The Last Ronin

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Hey folks and welcome back to another episode of Get Ripped, the only podcast anywhere in
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the world where two buds take turns recommending and reviewing some of their favorite pop culture
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hits, hidden gems, and oddities.
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I'm of course your host and resident silly boy, joined today as always by my friend and
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co-host, he's a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle, Teenage Mutant
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Ninja Turtle, hero in a half shell, Turtle Power!
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It's Micah.
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Hey, that's a perfect song.
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Yeah, it's the only song that are go ninja, go ninja, go!
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Good old Vanilla Ice man.
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We're talking turtles today.
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That's right, turtle time.
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We're talking turts today.
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We're going to settle once and for all who the best Ninja Turtle is on this show today.
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I don't know, it makes an argument against what I normally say.
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I have a feeling that this episode could easily turn into us arguing about who the best Ninja
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Turtle is and just not ignoring the book altogether.
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Yeah, ignoring the book.
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Yeah, 100%.
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That is 30, 40%.
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Could be the case.
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Yeah.
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Do you have anything that you want to jump into before that, Thor?
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You have any fun news articles that you've read?
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Any witty banter that you partook in?
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Any witty banter?
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How about a bit of witty banter?
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A little raconteur, verbal jousting sessions that you may have had?
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Oh gosh, no.
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I feel like there's something, and I'm afraid, oh, I have a new recommendation for you.
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Oh boy.
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And this one, it's genuinely pretty cool.
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Okay.
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So there's this show on Netflix.
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Once again, I'd like to recommend.
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How much nudity is involved in this recommendation?
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Zero.
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Oh, okay, cool.
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Very little.
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Continue then.
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It is a reality competition show though.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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So it is called The Trust.
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Okay.
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Here's the concept of it.
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It's fucking brilliant.
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So they take it's like 10 people and they put them in a house together and they tell
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them all, so as of right now, you have all won.
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There is a $250,000 pot.
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You all get an equal share of that pot.
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Okay.
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Now here's the twist of it is every couple of days they do a trust ceremony where everybody
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secretly votes and you can either choose to not vote and continue to share the trust
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or you can vote to vote somebody out.
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And here's the thing is if nobody gets any votes, the show continues on everybody's sharing.
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If you get a single vote, you are out.
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Unless if two people get votes and they're tied, nobody goes home.
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So essentially it's whoever gets the most votes goes home.
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Sure.
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But like literally if nobody votes except for one person who that person voted for goes
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home.
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So how does this competition end then?
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Well it just goes on.
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So like each every couple days there's like, they obviously they throw these like not challenges
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in but they'll throw these, I guess you would call them just kind of these like events or
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exercises in that intentionally shake stuff up.
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They have people reveal secrets about themselves.
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Gotcha.
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Or they'll have like for example the one is there's 10 people in the house and they're
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like we want you all to line up and you guys decide who you think is the best leader.
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Okay.
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And then they all line up and then the person who put themselves at the front they're like
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okay now you have to decide who do you think is the most trustworthy and put them in a
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line from least trustworthy to most trustworthy.
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So essentially intentionally like sowing seeds of mistrust within the group.
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And then they have this thing called the vault where so periodically people will be sent
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to the vault where they'll be given an offer in secret where they can either take money
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from the trust for themselves or they can do something for the good of the group.
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Oh, okay.
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So it's I love Survivor but my least favorite part of Survivor is the physical challenges
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like the actual games and shit.
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Yeah.
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It's just not that interesting to me.
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I love the I love the social aspect of trying to lie to people but not lie so much that
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you get caught and playing a great game but not playing a not playing a good enough game
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where people suspect you.
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It's kind of like that but just that piece without like all the physical challenges.
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It's literally just a game of bluffing and trying to get people to trust you and wondering
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it's like a game of leveled thinking where everybody's like I trust this person but do
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they trust me and do I trust that they trust me and can I really trust them?
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Are they lying to me or do they know that I'm lying to them?
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Do they think that I think that they're lying?
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It's just a bunch of shit like that.
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Sure.
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So once people get voted out you ask how does it end?
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There's a certain number of episodes a certain number of days they spend in the house.
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Oh, okay.
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So after the certain amount of days the thing is over regardless of how many people there's
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X amount of trust ceremonies.
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Okay.
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So it could potentially end with if nobody gets voted out throughout the whole season
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then 10 people are splitting the pot.
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If all but like three people are voted out those three people are splitting the pot.
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And it's $200,000?
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250.
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Oh 250.
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Is what it starts out as and then it can either go up or go down and they never know like
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they don't know how much money is in the pot as the show goes on.
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So these people are being offered these like secret these things in secret and they're
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taking money and nobody else even knows and it's like up to them if they choose to tell
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people or not.
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It's a really really interesting show.
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So the question is then if it's $250,000 from the get-go and there's 10 of them then there's
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$25,000 per person.
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Correct yeah.
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That's interesting because to me I could see myself making the argument like we get 25
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grand but if somebody annoys you man.
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Well here's where the fear the fear kicks in.
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It's not even about somebody annoying you.
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It's about do I trust that person to not write my name down.
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That's more of what it is.
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It is like this intent like this kind of ever-present danger of like one it takes one person to
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write my name down and now I'm going home.
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It's a pretty it's pretty interesting show.
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It sounds fascinating.
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Yeah I think that I would enjoy this.
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Yeah it's called The Trust.
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It's on Netflix.
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I really enjoyed it.
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Me and Kendra and I like the way they did it.
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They did like four episodes three episodes at a time and then so they did like three
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episodes and then a week later another three came out and then a week later like the final
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episode came out.
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Responsible binging then.
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Yeah yeah which I actually I actually really like.
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Okay yeah that sounds interesting.
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I just finished Hell's Kitchen season 22 so I'm looking for something to get into.
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Okay yeah there you go.
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Yeah I fucking love Hell's Kitchen.
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I love Gordon Ramsay.
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I'm not I've never been a fan of cooking shows.
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It just doesn't interest me.
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I don't really have much of a desire to cook or learn how to cook.
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You just like hearing Gordon Ramsay yell at people.
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Basically I get that.
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Yeah yeah there's just a fun thing about Gordon Ramsay yelling at people.
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If it was something that wasn't cooking I'd be fully into it probably.
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Sure yeah I just I don't know.
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It's a guilty pleasure thing.
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You know I've we've talked about Ink Master and how Ink Master would be ten times better
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if it didn't have the drama that is in between the sessions.
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For Gordon Ramsay stuff I go into it for the drama.
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Like that's that's why I'm going in there.
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I just I want to I want to realize that other people probably have it worse off than I do
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and yeah any day Gordon Ramsay isn't screaming at you is a good day.
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Exactly yeah.
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Alright let's let's let's jump into some turtle action.
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Yeah let's do some turt talk.
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Turt talk.
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Let's talk turt.
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Now back to the show.
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Alright folks so today we are going to get into the last Ronin which is a little mini
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series about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
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Five issues to be specific and it was published by IDW.
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I really really like them as a company as a publisher.
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So this was originally released in 2020 and like the first issue came out in 2020.
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The last publication date of the last issue came out in 2022.
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So five issues five comics came out over a span of almost two years which is a lot right
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they as far as a lot of time between those between those two things.
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So this story tells the tale it's a futuristic setting it's something that if you are unfamiliar
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or I'm sorry if you are familiar with the general Ninja Turtle landscape it's totally
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new.
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It's in the future the foot have taken over New York and only one Ninja Turtle is alive.
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It is revealed to you in the comic that that Ninja Turtle is Michelangelo and all of the
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other Ninja Turtles have died.
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It kind of leads you to believe or it kind of lets you try and guess which Ninja Turtle
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it was because we as humans are species and we can't tell the turtles apart unless they're
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wearing their colored bandanas.
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So you find out at the end of the first issue that it's Michelangelo and all of the other
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Ninja Turtles are dead and it's a revenge story essentially.
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It's Michelangelo trying to get his honor for his family back and it just kind of goes
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from there.
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Yeah he's trying to kill shredders grandson.
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Yep.
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Who is responsible for the death of his brothers.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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So so with that being said that's kind of the general plot synopsis.
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Or how do you feel how do you feel about this because this this is making headways in the
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comic book landscape as far as you know with people who are into comics people are saying
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this one is one that you got to find like you got to you got to be involved in this
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dude.
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I fucking love Michelangelo.
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He's 100 percent the best goddamn Ninja Turtle.
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So of course dark.
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Oh my gosh.
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OK.
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I love Michelangelo.
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So I'm obviously on board right now.
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We are you and I are I guess we're millennials technically but we're like you know we grew
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up in the 90s.
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Yep.
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Where late 80s early 90s that's kind of the Ninja Turtle fucking heyday.
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Right.
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So obviously I love the turtles.
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I love this take on it where it's dark and gritty and whereas the Ninja Turtles are always
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kind of like happy and fun.
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Sure.
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It's dealing with like severe trauma.
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Yes.
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And like just some really dark emotions which I think is a fun take on it because it's you
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know you know I'm not a super huge comic guy.
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Right.
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But it's my understanding that the original very first Ninja Turtles comics were they
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were kind of dark and gritty like the very first issue.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The first issue was pretty gritty.
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So it feels like kind of like a return to that whereas the Ninja Turtles certainly got
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they got put into the kids space of the 80s and 90s which was always very happy and positive
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and they get their fucking radical and they ride skateboards through the sewers and shit
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which is fun.
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That's why they were awesome.
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Yeah.
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So I like this turn of like a dark post apocalyptic story almost.
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Sure.
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Well I mean take the take the vibes of this and compare it to like the second Ninja Turtle
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movie for example where they had weapons but they never even used their weapons in the
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movie at all because they wanted it to be kid friendly.
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Yeah.
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You know it's definitely a shift back to something much closer to what the original intent was
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for.
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Yeah.
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And me and our buddy McCrary who is like kind of like the comic guy.
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Right.
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We had discussed this a little bit I guess on his other podcast two fat dudes when this
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thing was originally announced they were kind of discussing because I guess when this
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first came out and I'm just making this assumption based on my conversation with Zach and the
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back of the book was there was a lot of mystery as to which Ninja Turtle is it going to be.
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Yeah.
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And they had a whole conversation trying to guess like which turtle are they going to
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go with.
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And I think Michelangelo is the perfect one because I would agree it's the most interesting
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story because he was always the fun party dude.
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He's the Hufflepuff.
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He's you know what I mean.
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Yeah.
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It's because he's the worst Ninja Turtle.
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He's fucking he's Mary Frodo Sam.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I got you.
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I wasn't sure which Mary you were talking about.
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Slytherin Ravenclaw Hufflepuff Gryffindor.
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It's all it's all just the same for for personality type paradigm.
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Right.
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So he's the fun guy and he's the party dude of the turtles who were all kind of party
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dudes.
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He was really like the party.
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He was he was the party.
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He was the jokester of the clown.
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Yeah.
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I think it's perfect that I think it was the best story they could have told.
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I think you could have made a good case for Leonardo.
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Sure.
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Because obviously it'd be like oh I failed the team.
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I'm supposed to be the leader.
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Yeah.
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I think Donatello would probably be the least interesting out of all four of them as far
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as the character arc from that.
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Yeah.
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Because he was kind of already a loner of the turtles.
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He kind of feels the most loner.
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Yeah.
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Well and with Raph you feel like he could say like I was too brash.
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I was you know I jumped the gun too much and like maybe that's the cause of the death of
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the turtles.
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Are you going to make him more angry?
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Are you going to make him more of an asshole like no.
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So for Michelangelo it's such a it's such a great character arc.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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I would agree with that.
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I like the selection of Michelangelo.
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I love the vibe of this.
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It's so fucking dark.
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Yeah because because New York is totally under like martial law control.
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Can we talk about how hilarious this is?
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Sure.
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So that is the one probably my only it's not even really a criticism.
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It's just the thing I found kind of funny is like this evil ninja warlord took over
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New York City.
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Yep.
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Like a Bond villain where it's like like the rest of the United States doesn't exist.
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It's like New York like just this one evil warlord guy took over a whole city.
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Took over a whole city.
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Yeah.
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Not even a state.
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Just the city.
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Just the city.
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Like not even you know the rest of New York State would just be okay with it.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Yeah that is kind of goofy.
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I mean it's it's a comic book.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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It's not a criticism.
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I just found it very funny.
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Yeah it's a little goofy admittedly.
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Well and I feel like But they're giant turtles running around so you can't like I'm not poking
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I'm not poking holes because that would be the first hole I would poke is their giant
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turtle.
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They're giant turtles.
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And also why do they wear masks?
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Why do the turtles wear masks to conceal their identity?
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No it's so that we can tell which turtles which one.
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That's the only reason.
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That's it.
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That's it.
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Probably it's for Splinter's behalf to be honest.
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Yeah.
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Splinter's like I don't know which one of you is which.
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They did here here's an orange bandana a purple one blue one red one.
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Don't take it off.
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Won't be able to tell you apart.
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Yeah I as a whole I've always really enjoyed the Ninja Turtles but I have kind of gotten
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away from them as I've gotten older because of how child oriented their stories have kind
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of become.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if it's if it started with Nickelodeon taking because they own the IP now.
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But definitely since then they've really pushed into being a kid friendly show which I get
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right and it has its place but that makes it less interesting to me as an adult.
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Well I think it's honestly I think for the most part it should be reserved for kids because
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once they're giant talking turtles that ride skateboards and eat pizza.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And maybe that was not when what's the guy who created this?
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Kevin Eastman.
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Kevin Eastman yeah and Peter Laird were the two people who made it.
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And they created maybe that wasn't their initial idea but between the cartoon and the movies
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that's what they are and that's what we really remember.
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Yeah.
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I think for most of us.
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So for from what I understand they kind of created it together as a joke and made a comic
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just to sell a single single issue comic and for some reason it just exploded.
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Yeah.
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And they're like oh okay.
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This is a really like heartfelt and sweet kind of like a letter from Kevin Eastman at
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the end of this collection that you gave me where he kind of talks about it.
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It's really I don't know if you've read it but it's really where he's kind of talking
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about like I remember they had to like get it out to the presses.
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He's like I remember looking at the board the storyboard for the first comic and we
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got it out to the presses and we didn't even know if it was going to get back in time for
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this comic convention we wanted to go to.
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Oh sure.
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And it came back like the day before they actually got the physical copies of it printed.
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Wow.
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And then they took it to this convention and then they were like it just took on a life
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of its own.
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That's so cool.
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Yeah it's a really neat and it's basically him just like kind of thanking thanking everyone
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sure and just kind of like basically saying like hey thank you to all the fans this has
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been a dream I couldn't even imagine for the last 30 years because of this stupid comic.
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Right.
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Well and the cool thing about this too is we mentioned that this kind of goes back to
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something closer to the first couple of issues of the Ninja Turtles.
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It was written by the two creators.
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So Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird were two main writers of this.
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So it wasn't like it probably did have corporate oversight I would imagine.
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Sure.
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But you've got the original creators coming back to this.
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I'm assuming they probably have been pretty hands off in the last.
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I would think.
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Yeah I mean why.
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All the different iterations of Ninja Turtles I mean I can't imagine they've been you know
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whole like fully involved in all of that.
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Well yeah I mean if Nickelodeon owns the IP that means that they purchased it from somebody
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right.
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But they don't have the rights anymore I don't think.
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OK.
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As far as publishing rights.
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So this I would imagine is you know I don't know if it was the writers coming in and saying
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hey we've got this idea or if they went to the writers and said hey would you like to
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do a comic and this is what they came up with.
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I'm not sure.
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But it definitely you can see you can see how this touches base on something that is
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closer to what the original style was.
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Even the artwork they so they they were the writers but they did some of the artwork to
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like the all of the like the back story scenes where the artwork style changes.
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Yeah.
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Those are the that's the writers doing those pages.
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Which I really like those.
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I like those pages.
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Yeah I find it very interesting because it almost feels like they're addressing the fact
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that you are looking at an animated medium.
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And so it's like this animated world if they animated something what would it look like.
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Sure.
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I don't know if that's the intention but that's kind of how it felt where it's where it's
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this like really stripped down type of animation or I guess illustration illustration rather
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rather.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But so that's that's a bit about like the backstory of just the turtles in general kind
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of where we stand.
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So is Michelangelo your favorite turtle.
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He's the best turtle.
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Yeah.
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OK.
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I'm going to disagree.
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Donatello is my favorite.
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So that's that's where we're starting.
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That's the starting point.
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Fucking stupid dork.
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Shut the hell up.
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That's where I stand.
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All right.
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So let's let's jump into the plot a little bit of this because again the first issue
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you don't even know which Ninja Turtle it is because he's not wearing any colors except
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for black.
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He's like got like a black bandana and he has all of the turtle weapons.
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So he's got a sword from Leo.
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He's got the bow staff.
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He's got a sigh and he's got nunchucks.
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So going into this did you not know which Ninja Turtle it was or did you go into it.
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No I knew which one it was.
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OK.
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Yeah.
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I'm wondering how effective the the mystery actually was in this.
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Yeah.
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After this I knew that it was Michelangelo as well.
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So I wonder if it's one of those things where like with us when we watched Star Wars for
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the first time we knew that Vader was Luke's dad at least for me.
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I like I knew that going in.
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OK.
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I did not.
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OK.
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So so like for us for me anyway that's a big plot twist that I didn't get.
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Right.
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OK.
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Yeah.
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But the rest of the world did get.
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I wasn't sure if it was something like that or if they're just like trying to make it
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seem like it's a mystery.
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But really everybody knows.
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Yeah.
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Now I mean I don't know.
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I don't feel like knowing ahead of time really took anything away from it.
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Right.
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I think it would have been fun reading for the first time.
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But I don't know.
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I feel like in the world we live in today something like that it's like you can't really
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keep shit like that secret too long.
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It'd be really tough.
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And it doesn't really change any because it's not really a plot twist.
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Yeah.
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It it almost just kind of gives you more insight into what the character is going through.
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Sure.
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Because literally change switch out Michelangelo for any other turtle.
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Nothing changes about the story except for how you perceive what that character is going
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through.
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Yeah.
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That's probably true.
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So do you feel like that is a that is a strength or a weakness of this comic?
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Because for me just to preface it I think that it is absolutely cool that Michelangelo
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is the one that's doing this.
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I think it allows for the most potential of growth in a character or change in a character.
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Yeah.
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With that being said I don't feel like there was anything in here that said this is Michelangelo.
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Like he didn't act at all like Michelangelo which I don't expect him to because of all
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crap that's been going on.
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But at the same time there was nothing like zero things in here to say oh there's a remnant
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of who Michelangelo used to be.
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Yeah.
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Like there was nothing in there.
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And they didn't even really necessarily address like the chain like in how it changed him.
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Maybe and maybe they did it this way because they are characters that are so well known
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and that most people are so familiar with that it was just kind of implied that like
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okay this is a much different Michelangelo than you've seen before.
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Yeah I guess what I'm wondering is they had that mystery there.
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Right.
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But they really couldn't give any character into Michelangelo because if they gave any
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character into Michelangelo you'd know it was Michelangelo.
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Yeah.
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In that first issue.
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Correct.
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Like a blank slate of a character.
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00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,720
But yeah but they could have done something with it in the following.
502
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:50,720
In the following ones.
503
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:51,720
Yeah and they definitely didn't.
504
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,360
Like he's just Michelangelo.
505
00:25:53,360 --> 00:26:00,560
Yeah like I said I think it's just because you know who Michelangelo is that's where
506
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:05,120
you're like in information of how the character has changed is coming from.
507
00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:06,120
Yeah.
508
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:07,120
Yeah.
509
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:09,360
Because they almost just like present him as like this is the character and they don't
510
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:13,760
even necessarily gosh I can't think of exactly the way I'm trying to say it.
511
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,320
Like they show you his journey they show you where he went.
512
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:21,160
They do kind of deal with the turmoil he's felt but they don't actually address the fact
513
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,680
that he as a character has changed.
514
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,680
Sure.
515
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,960
You just know who the character was and who he is now and that's how you are experiencing
516
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:29,960
that changed character.
517
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,800
Yeah you don't get to see any of the transition.
518
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,800
Exactly.
519
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:34,800
Yeah.
520
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,800
Yeah I agree with that 100%.
521
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,560
And they even do a lot of flashbacks.
522
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,560
Yeah.
523
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,520
But even in the flashbacks he's not being fucking Michelangelo hang loose dude.
524
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,520
Yeah.
525
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,800
None of that like all the flashbacks are then in the midst of war pretty much.
526
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,680
Yeah.
527
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,640
How did you feel about the death of all of the turtles because in those flashbacks you
528
00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:03,880
get to see like how Raphael how Leo even Casey Jones and Splinter and like you get to see
529
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,320
how all the rest of the team dies.
530
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,560
What did you think about all of that?
531
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,160
So I did I liked the way Raph went out.
532
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,640
I liked the way.
533
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,720
Getting angry because Splinter got attacked.
534
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:16,720
Uh huh.
535
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,720
And then just jumping into the dead.
536
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,760
And I think it's hilarious that a couple episodes or like the next issue you end up finding
537
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,600
out Splinter wasn't even dead.
538
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:24,600
Yeah.
539
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,760
Like he thought that Splinter had gotten killed so he went and got himself killed.
540
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,560
But Splinter hadn't even died.
541
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,560
Yeah right.
542
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,160
It's just kind of like I don't know if that was meant to be funny but I was like I was
543
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,160
kind of.
544
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,160
I don't think it was meant to be funny.
545
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,280
But it is kind of funny.
546
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:46,200
It's like dude he's such a hothead that he went and got himself killed for literally
547
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,200
no reason.
548
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,200
Yeah.
549
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,640
I mean and let's be honest if Raph is going to go that's probably how it happens.
550
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,640
Yeah.
551
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,240
I liked the way Donatello and Splinter went.
552
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,600
I didn't love that just Leonardo just got blown up in an explosion.
553
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,000
I guess that was the one that just did the least for me.
554
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,000
Sure.
555
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,920
I did feel like the way they kept switching back and forth between future and present
556
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,200
and current and how current kind of switched to future too.
557
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,200
Like I felt like it was a little bit confusing.
558
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,200
Sure.
559
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,200
Certain parts.
560
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,200
Yeah.
561
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,760
Because there were they did this thing where like at the beginning of the film or of a
562
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,640
film when an action scene is happening or think about reservoir dogs right how that
563
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,920
story is not told in order.
564
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:30,920
Yeah.
565
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,280
They do that with this story.
566
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,200
But then there are also flashbacks.
567
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,720
So when you jump back to the present quote unquote.
568
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,040
Yeah sometimes yeah sometimes when you're in the present it's in the past from like
569
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,520
a future one.
570
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:45,520
Yeah.
571
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,520
Yeah.
572
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,800
So is I thought it was interesting.
573
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:54,040
I don't know if it was super effective but also I was reading them back to back.
574
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,680
I wasn't reading them months apart.
575
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:04,120
Maybe it would have made maybe it wouldn't have been as confusing if I was reading these
576
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:09,120
as they came out like on these like every couple months or whenever they came out.
577
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,120
Sure.
578
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,120
Yeah.
579
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,400
Dude how bad ass was splinter in.
580
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,880
Dude that is.
581
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,960
I love watching splinter just slice and fools up with a fucking katana.
582
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,080
I loved the violence in this.
583
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,040
Even with Donatello when like you see him and he's struggling but then you just see
584
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,520
like a whole like pile of bodies of foot ninja.
585
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,520
Yeah.
586
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,520
And just like blood everywhere.
587
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:38,640
Dude or when Michelangelo is like when he's making his final run towards God what's his
588
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,640
name.
589
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,640
Katori.
590
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,640
Hiroto.
591
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,640
Hiroto or something.
592
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,640
The main bad guy.
593
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:44,640
Oroku Hiroto.
594
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,640
Yeah.
595
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,960
Shredder's grants on the main villain in this.
596
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,800
There's like a couple panels where you don't even see Michelangelo you just see text from
597
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:01,740
him like that he's thinking and you don't like all the panels you don't see Michelangelo.
598
00:30:01,740 --> 00:30:06,960
You just see all these dead bodies like you just see the trail of his destruction.
599
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,040
They're showing you his path that he's running but they're just showing you all the dead
600
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,040
bodies in the path of his destruction.
601
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,040
Yeah.
602
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,040
Yeah that was pretty cool.
603
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,040
Yeah.
604
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,360
No the bloodshed and brutality of this is awesome.
605
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,260
I was not expecting that.
606
00:30:21,260 --> 00:30:22,360
Like I knew it was dark.
607
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,360
I knew it was gritty.
608
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:30,800
But I didn't expect to actually see like fucking arrows and swords and blood like swords and
609
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:35,440
arrows stuck into people and just blood all over the place.
610
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,200
And it's not gratuitous.
611
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,200
Right.
612
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,560
But for a Ninja Turtle comics certainly more than I expected.
613
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,560
Yes.
614
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,600
I feel I felt like it was a really good balance.
615
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,600
Yeah.
616
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:47,600
Yeah I agree.
617
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,820
Yeah it didn't seem like it was trying to be gory for shock value or anything like that.
618
00:30:51,820 --> 00:30:53,480
It felt like it had its place.
619
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,840
It was there for a reason.
620
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,520
But it also it also didn't feel like Star Wars where there's no blood ever.
621
00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,520
Right.
622
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,520
Yeah.
623
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,840
And I think you got the impression like oh they're actually killing these people.
624
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:10,960
Well I think these are actual ninjas and samurais killing each other.
625
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,280
How about April O'Neil?
626
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,440
What did you think about this rendition of April?
627
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,920
She is dinged up.
628
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,920
Yeah.
629
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,960
April is dinged up man.
630
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,960
She's like missing an arm and is she also missing a leg?
631
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:23,960
She's missing an arm.
632
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:29,880
She's missing a leg and she is not the sexy April we remember.
633
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:30,880
No.
634
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,440
Well I mean she's like six.
635
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,600
She's like in her sixties.
636
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,840
Yeah something like that.
637
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,360
And then she's got a daughter who's named Casey.
638
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,240
I forget what she's got a different middle name but it's Casey.
639
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,240
Casey Marie.
640
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,240
Casey Marie.
641
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,240
That's what it was.
642
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,240
Yeah.
643
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,720
And so I thought that Casey was a very interesting character.
644
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,960
I liked Casey a lot.
645
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,280
I thought that was a and I loved her.
646
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,860
Honestly if I could have gotten more of something I wish they would have introduced the character
647
00:31:59,860 --> 00:32:04,040
as maybe not introduce them sooner because I'm pretty sure like the second episode you
648
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,040
need them.
649
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,040
I think.
650
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:14,320
But the play between this grizzled jaded Michelangelo and the young idealist Casey.
651
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,320
Sure.
652
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,480
I loved their play.
653
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:23,040
Their play together and I loved that she he becomes her sensei.
654
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,400
Yeah that was pretty heartwarming to that scene.
655
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,920
And he takes on this role of like once again Michelangelo was the fun party dude but now
656
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,280
he's like I'm your sensei.
657
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,280
No backtalk.
658
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,680
No silly.
659
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:43,480
How hilarious is it that Michelangelo is now the guy saying hey no nonsense no goofing
660
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,760
around kid.
661
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:45,920
No questions.
662
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,120
I'm your sensei you do as I say.
663
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:53,160
Yeah because that's what I did as my role in the Ninja Turtle family.
664
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,960
I definitely didn't skateboard and eat pizzas through the sewer or something like.
665
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,600
Yeah I definitely wasn't the prankster.
666
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,480
I really I think that's the like one of the highlights of this run.
667
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,880
It's not something brand new you know what I mean.
668
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:14,060
It's this this young untrained apprentice and the wise old man it's Anakin and fucking
669
00:33:14,060 --> 00:33:15,060
Obi-Wan.
670
00:33:15,060 --> 00:33:16,860
It's and it's just it's just done.
671
00:33:16,860 --> 00:33:22,240
It always plays really well and I think I really like the play between the two of them.
672
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,080
Yeah I I did too.
673
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,520
So the story basically is just a revenge tale right.
674
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:34,880
It's it's him trying to to get rid of the foot to get rid of this Oroku Hiroto get rid
675
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,280
of their hold on New York.
676
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:43,960
It ends up in a big battle between the two of them and then there are some interesting
677
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:52,120
reveals where you find out that she Casey Marie actually has some mutant things happening
678
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,120
with her.
679
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,400
Yeah and once again this is kind of like a silly thing that made me laugh is like the
680
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:04,840
reason she has like mutant power is because April and her father Casey hung around a bunch
681
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:05,840
of mutated turtles.
682
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,640
They were like they were rubbed off on us because we were buddies with these turtles.
683
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,880
Like what I think they just needed a way.
684
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,680
Yeah you know what like they knew they wanted to do that.
685
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,240
They needed a way to make that happen.
686
00:34:17,240 --> 00:34:20,400
So it's a little bit of a flimsy like concept but.
687
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,520
Yeah I kind of again they're giant turtles running around like whatever I'll I'll suspend
688
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,520
disbelief.
689
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,520
Sure.
690
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,360
Yeah to me the way that I saw that was me.
691
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,000
One are they just like is radiation.
692
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,240
Are they just like sending out micro waves of radiation.
693
00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:38,240
It seems so.
694
00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:39,240
Yeah.
695
00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:40,240
OK.
696
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:45,840
So so it was enough that their offspring Casey and April's offspring would have it but not
697
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,080
enough that it would affect April and Casey themselves.
698
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,080
Yeah.
699
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:58,360
So to me the way that I was looking at it was oh it's it's a genetic thing where on
700
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:03,760
her own April's genes weren't mutated enough to have any real physical change.
701
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,760
Yeah.
702
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:10,560
Same thing is true with Casey but because both of those slightly mutated genes got together
703
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:17,120
and formed a kid it was a combination of the two that now it's enough in the gene pool
704
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,320
that it's starting to make a physical.
705
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,920
Yeah she's like powerful and has a healing factor.
706
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:21,920
Yeah.
707
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:22,920
Yeah.
708
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,840
That's kind of how it seemed to me or at least that's how my brain justified it.
709
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:32,760
And then at the end unfortunately Michelangelo goes in his last battle but.
710
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,920
No he had to go down unfortunately like that was.
711
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:36,920
Yeah.
712
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:37,920
That was his goal from the get go.
713
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,920
It was his goal.
714
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:39,920
I mean.
715
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,560
Well I say unfortunately because I don't want the Ninja Turtles to die.
716
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,560
Yeah.
717
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,560
Right.
718
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,960
I mean I don't want that but truthfully Michelangelo was probably dead for a long time already.
719
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,360
Yeah he had died on the inside a long time ago.
720
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,960
Oh a while ago.
721
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:59,200
But then it ends up with Casey and April and they have four little turtles.
722
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,600
And they got four little baby turtles.
723
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,040
Four little baby turtles that they're going to turn into some new Teenage Mutant Ninja
724
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,040
Turtles.
725
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,880
Yeah I like I liked the ending it was sweet.
726
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,400
I actually I fucking loved the ending of this.
727
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,400
Oh.
728
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,800
I mean you get Michelangelo's like dream sequence where he's with his brothers and he's with
729
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,800
Splinter again.
730
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,800
Yeah.
731
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,640
And Casey and they're all just hanging out and it's just like a fun good day and they're
732
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,680
young again and they're on the rooftops in New York.
733
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:25,680
Yeah.
734
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,720
I was I really liked the way they wrapped it up it was really sweet.
735
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:29,720
Yeah.
736
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:33,280
Yeah you could tell that like I mean it wasn't they didn't try to sugarcoat this at all but
737
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:38,240
like that's that's what Michelangelo's goal was is to finish the mission and then he's
738
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:39,240
done.
739
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:40,240
Yeah.
740
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:41,240
You know that was the only reason that he was.
741
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:44,800
Did you feel about him he had the ghosts of the other turtles with him.
742
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,200
Oh I'm constantly talking to them.
743
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,640
I freaking loved it.
744
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:53,920
Yeah because because it's one of those things where you can tell that they're not there
745
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,400
obviously and it's just all in his head.
746
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,400
Yeah.
747
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,320
And I feel like that did a really really good job of kind of visualizing the trauma that
748
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,520
he's been going through.
749
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,520
Yeah.
750
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,960
And just how much internally he's he's struggling with it.
751
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,400
Yeah and that he's still carrying his brothers with him.
752
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,400
Yeah.
753
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:14,600
I felt like that was really really good because really something that I noticed reading this
754
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,520
is when all the turtles died they were alone.
755
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,760
Like Donatello was with Splinter I guess.
756
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,740
But yeah but and Leo was with Casey.
757
00:37:23,740 --> 00:37:29,080
But as far as the four brothers together I don't think any I don't think they would have
758
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,960
died if they would have stayed together.
759
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:38,200
But they pardoned the phrase they splintered apart.
760
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,240
And that's when they were killed.
761
00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:42,240
Yeah.
762
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:49,240
So so to me I felt like I don't know if it was that was on purpose where like he's keeping
763
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:51,400
them together one he's carrying the weight.
764
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,600
I think that's narrative.
765
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,320
I think it was narratively done.
766
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,320
Yeah.
767
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,280
So that they could stretch it across different books.
768
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,280
Well probably.
769
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,640
Oh as far as the death of the turtles.
770
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:01,640
Yeah.
771
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,000
Like each turtle needed his own unique death so he needed to be alone.
772
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,280
Yeah but I feel like that did a really good job of even reinforcing the family aspect
773
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,280
of what has been synonymous with the Ninja Turtles.
774
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,280
Yeah.
775
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,280
Right.
776
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,280
So the fact that they were on their own separated from the rest of the group when they died
777
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,640
for each instance.
778
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:20,640
Yeah.
779
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,000
Because that was always kind of their thing is like they were a team and their their weaknesses
780
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,760
were shirred up by the strengths of the other three.
781
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:29,760
Exactly.
782
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,800
That is kind of their their whole deal.
783
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:32,800
Yeah.
784
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:39,080
And I like that I liked the flashback sequence of Michelangelo like once his brothers died
785
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,920
he was like he just went and trained.
786
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,960
He was like I learned all their skills.
787
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,440
So not only is he like carrying the ghost of his brothers with him but he's learning
788
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,240
to fight the way they did.
789
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:56,400
He's learning all the things that he didn't know and he kind of became like all four turtles
790
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,400
in one turtle.
791
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:04,320
And I think that also kind of explains why he doesn't have a I feel like his character
792
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,040
I don't know if that's intentional but it feels like it is where his character doesn't
793
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:15,280
in this whole book doesn't necessarily have doesn't feel like he has a distinct personality
794
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,240
aside from I'm driven by this one thing.
795
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:19,240
Yeah that's it.
796
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:21,040
He's very one dimensional I think as a character.
797
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,040
Yeah.
798
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,440
Because he's kind of like taken on all these aspects.
799
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,560
He's not this unique character anymore.
800
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,640
Now he is just a he's the Ronin.
801
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,440
You know he's just driven by this one purpose.
802
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,000
And so he he has nobody left to rely on.
803
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:42,240
So he's learned all the things that they knew in order to continue surviving.
804
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:46,760
Yeah and I think to be honest that's my probably my biggest gripe with this comic.
805
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:47,760
Okay.
806
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:55,760
As much as I loved all of that and that Michelangelo had to change I didn't love that he doesn't
807
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,920
have any of my like none of Michelangelo left.
808
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:00,920
Yeah.
809
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:06,240
They don't even give you like a flash and a wink at that fun silly guy.
810
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:07,240
Yeah.
811
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:09,680
Like not even not even a little bit not even once.
812
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,080
Yeah not even when he sees April.
813
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,160
Right and because he thought that April was dead.
814
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,160
Yeah.
815
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:20,960
So even when he sees April like there's nothing that brings out the old Michelangelo at all.
816
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,000
I think that could have added a lot to the story.
817
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,000
I agree.
818
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,000
Yeah.
819
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,600
I don't know how much that takes away from it for me.
820
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,600
Honestly not a ton.
821
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,200
It doesn't take a ton away from it.
822
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:38,120
But but I do think it would have been a little bit more effective in trying to show that
823
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,040
this is Michelangelo and then he's dealing with some shit.
824
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,040
Yeah.
825
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,760
Like he's dealing with some things.
826
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,600
He's dealing with some stuff.
827
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:46,600
Yeah.
828
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:47,600
Gosh there was something.
829
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,600
What was I thinking about.
830
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,760
It was there and then it was just like it was gone.
831
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,760
Okay.
832
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,000
So while you're while you're trying to read the book let me look let me look through it.
833
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,000
So see the pictures.
834
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:04,080
So while you're while you're trying to recollect your thoughts here do you know did you know
835
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,880
that the Ninja Turtles were basically I don't want to use the word a parody but they were
836
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,320
really pulled from Daredevil.
837
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,320
Were you aware of this.
838
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,320
Knowing what.
839
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,320
Yeah.
840
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,320
Okay.
841
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,320
More way.
842
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,320
Okay.
843
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:18,320
Dude this is amazing.
844
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:19,320
I'm so happy that you don't know this so that I can tell it to you.
845
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,320
Okay.
846
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,320
Daredevil.
847
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,120
Do you know how he got his powers.
848
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,120
Yeah.
849
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,880
He hit like there was like a truck that overturned with like some radioactive material.
850
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:29,880
Exactly.
851
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,880
Right.
852
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,520
Daredevil is in New York City Hell's Kitchen specifically.
853
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,600
Do you know how the Ninja Turtles got their powers.
854
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,240
Yeah they got ooze on them.
855
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:41,320
They were like in the sewers and they got ooze on them.
856
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,320
Exactly.
857
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,320
Regular turtles.
858
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,320
So the turtles.
859
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:45,320
All right.
860
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:51,840
When when when the two writers Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird were creating the turtles
861
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:57,360
they were thinking it might be kind of fun if when Daredevil got his powers and that
862
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:02,480
truck of ooze that splattered into his eyes some of it went into the sewer.
863
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:03,480
Oh okay.
864
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:09,780
And landed on these turtles and that's what made them turn into mutants and eventually
865
00:42:09,780 --> 00:42:11,000
turn into ninjas.
866
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,000
That's neat.
867
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:18,880
So the cool thing too is in Daredevil one of the main groups of antagonists.
868
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:19,880
The hook clan right.
869
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,880
It's called the hand.
870
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,880
Oh the hand.
871
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:22,880
That's right.
872
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,680
And so so then with the turtles the main enemy antagonist is the foot.
873
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,960
So they just ripped off Daredevil.
874
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,400
That's exactly what they did.
875
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,000
That's very fun.
876
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:39,000
Daredevil when he was training like before he became Daredevil once he became blind he
877
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,180
was training with a guy.
878
00:42:40,180 --> 00:42:42,580
His sensei was this guy named Stick.
879
00:42:42,580 --> 00:42:48,880
That's the name that he went by was Stick and the Ninja Turtles leader's name is Splinter.
880
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:49,880
Okay.
881
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:50,880
All right.
882
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:58,840
So the whole thing was basically just a wordplay situation from from Daredevil.
883
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,360
And kind of pulling from the Ninja Turtles are just built on puns basically.
884
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,840
Yeah.
885
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,680
But obviously they they grew and turned into something wholly original.
886
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:09,680
Yeah.
887
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:15,280
But when they made it that was kind of I think it was like a hey this would be kind of fun
888
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,720
type of type of situation.
889
00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:17,720
Yeah.
890
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:18,720
Okay.
891
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:19,720
So here's the thing.
892
00:43:19,720 --> 00:43:22,640
I'm not sure how knowledgeable you are about like turtle lore.
893
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,640
About the Ninja Turtle lore.
894
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:24,640
Yeah.
895
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,280
I don't I don't know.
896
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,760
Here's the thing that confused me and it's probably just because I haven't really read
897
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:30,760
the comics.
898
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:31,760
Okay.
899
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:38,080
So the whole a lot of the flashbacks have to deal with the fact that there is this feud
900
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:45,360
between the turtles family and like whatever ninja family they are from and then shredders
901
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,760
family the oroku or whatever.
902
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,760
Yeah.
903
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,760
So it's like two warring clans.
904
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:54,160
It's these like two warring clans have been warring for hundreds of years.
905
00:43:54,160 --> 00:44:00,280
But if they're just four turtles and a rat from the sewers in New York City who got mutated
906
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:08,000
and became ninjas how are they like related to these families from from Japan from Japan.
907
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,000
Yeah.
908
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,000
Because they even at one point that's how Splinter and Donatello dies.
909
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:17,360
They go to Japan to meet with like the elders of the family or like the rest of their clan.
910
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,360
Not with their clan.
911
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,560
They were going to the enemy clan.
912
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,920
Yeah they were they were going to meet with their clan but they went to their clan.
913
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:25,920
Oh yeah.
914
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,440
So it's like are they like reembodied spirits of them or something.
915
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,320
I just genuinely I don't I don't know.
916
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,880
So I know that just from the first Ninja Turtle movie.
917
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:37,880
Okay.
918
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,080
That Splinter was I believe he is from.
919
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,360
Oh man.
920
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:47,240
If you're into the Ninja Turtle lore and you know it like it's like the Yamato clan.
921
00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:53,920
Yeah if that was like Splinter and the turtles are part of the Yamato.
922
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,000
If my memory serves correct Splinter himself is from Japan.
923
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,000
Okay.
924
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:07,160
Like the rat came over on a boat and the rat according to the movie essentially just like
925
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:14,120
was in the the dojo and watched and practiced martial arts.
926
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,320
Oh so the rat is just like I'm part of Yamato clan.
927
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:19,320
Yeah.
928
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,320
And they just accepted it.
929
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,320
I guess maybe.
930
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:26,240
I don't know my full I don't know if it's any different from the movie and so you don't
931
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:28,360
necessarily have an answer.
932
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,040
I can't give you a direct.
933
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,560
This is this is what's happening.
934
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,960
If there's anybody out there listening to this that knows the answer to like how are
935
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:41,840
they related to this clan in Japan like this few that's been going on for hundreds of years
936
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,520
when they're just little turd they were little baby turtles in a sewer.
937
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:51,320
How have they been feuding with with the Hiroto clan for the last 300 years.
938
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,080
I don't I don't understand it.
939
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,840
It's just a huge thing and it didn't feel like a plot hole or anything.
940
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:02,640
It just felt like a hole in my knowledge of the whole lore.
941
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,800
Yeah that's true because it's because it's presented in a way where it's almost like
942
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:06,920
they expect you to know.
943
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:07,920
Yeah.
944
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:13,960
And then as the there's a couple characters like the the dumb robot guy honey Honeywell
945
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,200
like you're supposed to just know who that is.
946
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:23,560
And then the guy from the comics the guy who brought down Honeywell he was like Hiroto's
947
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:24,560
ally essentially.
948
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:25,560
Stockman.
949
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,560
Stockman.
950
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,120
So Stockman was from the comics but also from the cartoons.
951
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,640
He was the guy who made the mousers.
952
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:32,640
Oh yeah.
953
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:33,640
Yeah.
954
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:34,640
So that's that's where that was from.
955
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,280
I'm not really familiar with any of those characters.
956
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,360
I know Shredder Bebop Rocksteady.
957
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,360
OK.
958
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,360
Yeah.
959
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,000
Those are those are the characters I know.
960
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,640
And then the actual turtas themselves and obviously.
961
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,720
So it like it didn't feel like a plot hole.
962
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:52,880
It was just one of those things where I'm like I just lack the knowledge of this.
963
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:58,360
So it didn't affect the story for me anyway other than otherwise I was just like I don't
964
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,960
I don't necessarily know what's going on so I'm just going to roll with it.
965
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:02,960
Yeah.
966
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:03,960
OK.
967
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:04,960
Yeah I can understand that.
968
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:10,760
And it's been a long time since I've watched the cartoons but the mousers were those little
969
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,480
robot things with the jaws that would just like attack you.
970
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:15,480
Yeah.
971
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,800
So Stockman was the guy who created those worked for Shredder.
972
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:19,840
Yeah I picked up on that.
973
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:26,240
He was like a tech guy and the honey what's the honey honeywell honeywell.
974
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:27,240
Yeah.
975
00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:28,240
I wanted to say honeysuckle.
976
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:30,360
That works.
977
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,240
That is a creation I believe of stockwells.
978
00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:34,240
OK.
979
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:37,560
And he seems like a like actual factual AI.
980
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,560
Yeah something like that.
981
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,680
Yeah I think it were I think that we're at a pretty good stopping point.
982
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:44,680
Cool.
983
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:50,680
So we just did this reinforce the fact that it was Michelangelo was the best ninja turtle
984
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:51,680
for you.
985
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,320
Well it didn't reinforce that.
986
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,000
I mean I heard that is just the facts.
987
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,000
Yeah.
988
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,520
So but you're but it's not Thor it.
989
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,560
Why is Michelangelo the best ninja turtle.
990
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,560
So fun.
991
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,520
And the turtles are fun.
992
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,040
Those are not good ninja quality.
993
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:16,520
If I'm being honest the nunchucks are probably the stupidest of of like ninja and karate
994
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:17,520
arsenal.
995
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,040
Nunchucks are so dumb.
996
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,600
What are you going to do with fucking nunchucks.
997
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,720
You know what a better weapon is than nunchucks.
998
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:31,900
Any well fork anything a stick which is what Donatello uses.
999
00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:35,320
Yeah it's yeah.
1000
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,040
Nunchucks are so dumb and also.
1001
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,400
No I just like Michelangelo.
1002
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,400
He's just fun.
1003
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:40,400
Just personality.
1004
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,400
I always.
1005
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,400
Yeah.
1006
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,400
I always go towards fun.
1007
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:44,400
That's fair.
1008
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,480
Like Rafael is like he's cool or whatever but he's kind of a dick and it's just like yeah
1009
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:49,660
we we get it.
1010
00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:50,660
You're angry.
1011
00:48:50,660 --> 00:48:51,660
OK.
1012
00:48:51,660 --> 00:48:52,660
Yeah.
1013
00:48:52,660 --> 00:48:53,660
Oh he's angry again.
1014
00:48:53,660 --> 00:48:54,660
Surprise.
1015
00:48:54,660 --> 00:49:01,600
And then Leonardo is he's the classic archetype archetypal good guy.
1016
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,880
He's the leader.
1017
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,920
He's the true north and he's always.
1018
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,640
I mean he probably is the best ninja out of all of them.
1019
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:09,920
Yeah he's lawful good.
1020
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,200
He's the classic good guy.
1021
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,360
He does the right thing.
1022
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,360
It's boring.
1023
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:14,360
It's vanilla.
1024
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,360
Yeah.
1025
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,360
I don't you need it but like I don't need it.
1026
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:18,360
It's fucking boring.
1027
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:19,360
Yeah.
1028
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,360
Donatello.
1029
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,160
Donatello he does machines.
1030
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,160
Yeah.
1031
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,360
He's he's a dork and it's like honestly he's probably my second favorite.
1032
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,360
Yeah.
1033
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,360
I do.
1034
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,360
I do like Donatello.
1035
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:31,600
Michelangelo is fun.
1036
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,760
He's the guy I want to get a pizza and a beer with.
1037
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:34,760
Yeah.
1038
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:35,760
Mike is probably my least favorite.
1039
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:36,760
I want to I want to skateboard with him.
1040
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:37,960
I want to hang out with him.
1041
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:38,960
He would be fun.
1042
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,920
He is my least favorite out of all the turtles.
1043
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,480
I think my order would go.
1044
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,840
Well you started a podcast with him.
1045
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:52,320
My entire personality is based off of Michelangelo.
1046
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:53,840
I strive to be.
1047
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:54,840
Yeah.
1048
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,680
My order would be Donny Leo Raph Mike.
1049
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,040
That's that's the order that I would put them in.
1050
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,040
Oh my God.
1051
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,040
I can't believe.
1052
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,040
Yeah.
1053
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,040
Yep.
1054
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,040
That's that's where I'm at.
1055
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,480
I think there was a really fun line in the animated movie.
1056
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,640
I think I go Michelangelo Donatello Raphael Splinter than Leonardo.
1057
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,840
Leonardo is so fucking boring.
1058
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:22,000
He's not great as a but I like the I like the Cyclops of the group.
1059
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,040
The same way as like where's Raphael's like oh he's mad.
1060
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,040
Interesting.
1061
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,240
Like go figure.
1062
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:31,120
With Leonardo it's like oh he did the right thing.
1063
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,120
Cool.
1064
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,120
Sure.
1065
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,000
Yeah I can I can understand that.
1066
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,800
It's kind of a vanilla character.
1067
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,760
I feel like they're like OK here's our idea.
1068
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,080
It's going to be a ninja turtle a turtle that is also a ninja.
1069
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,080
Great.
1070
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,400
Now let's make variations of that.
1071
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:47,400
Right.
1072
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,360
The first idea that's Leonardo.
1073
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,360
That's your Gryffindor.
1074
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:51,360
Yeah.
1075
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,360
Got to have right like boom.
1076
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:57,440
That's that's the and then all the alterations are based off of Ninja Turtle.
1077
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:58,680
But let's make this one fun.
1078
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,300
But let's make this one angry.
1079
00:51:00,300 --> 00:51:01,800
Let's make this one smart.
1080
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:02,800
Yeah.
1081
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,240
You know.
1082
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:06,880
So anyway that's that's where I stand on it.
1083
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,600
I feel like this book just reinforces the fact that Michelangelo was the worst Ninja
1084
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:18,860
Turtle because he had to completely not be Michelangelo in this comic to actually get
1085
00:51:18,860 --> 00:51:21,680
anything done.
1086
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,440
That's probably fair.
1087
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,880
And what is best and worst mean?
1088
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,640
Like as far as like being a ninja.
1089
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:29,640
Yeah.
1090
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:30,640
He's definitely the worst.
1091
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:31,840
He's I will give you that.
1092
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:32,840
He was the worst ninja.
1093
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,840
I don't mean he's like the least entertaining.
1094
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,120
I don't think that Donatello is.
1095
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,000
He was my favorite as far as if you're talking about ninjas.
1096
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,000
Yeah.
1097
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,000
He's easily the worst ninja.
1098
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,840
I will 100 percent agree.
1099
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,400
But he's also just my least favorite.
1100
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,800
I don't know why.
1101
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:52,500
I just honestly he would be most at home being like an 80s standup comedian like with the
1102
00:51:52,500 --> 00:51:54,560
rolled up sleeves.
1103
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:55,560
OK.
1104
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,480
Well, you ever notice pigeons in New York are really tough.
1105
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,960
I think that's where he would fit in best.
1106
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:02,960
Yeah.
1107
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:03,960
Yeah.
1108
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:11,720
And I was trying to I was trying to to envision his voice when I was reading him talking.
1109
00:52:11,720 --> 00:52:17,000
And I was having a tough time with it because he's always so like radical, tubular.
1110
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,000
Yeah.
1111
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,220
So I was trying to get that that voice, you know, that I would imagine you'd have.
1112
00:52:22,220 --> 00:52:25,240
But then I have to like get rid of the surfer accent.
1113
00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:26,560
It's been beaten out of him.
1114
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:27,560
Yeah.
1115
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:28,560
Been beaten out of him.
1116
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:29,560
Life is just.
1117
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:30,560
Yeah.
1118
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,920
So I was thinking about what his voice would sound like while I was reading it.
1119
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:39,000
But anyway, I imagined a very gruff, like grizzled.
1120
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,000
Yeah.
1121
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,960
Grizzled voice because he's also an old man at this point.
1122
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:43,960
Yeah.
1123
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:44,960
He's like an old ass turtle.
1124
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:45,960
Yeah.
1125
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,320
So who would be the perfect actor to voice him in this?
1126
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:53,360
So they make a a movie either animated or quote unquote live action.
1127
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:58,520
Oh, dude, live action with like old school prosthetic turtle stuff going on like the
1128
00:52:58,520 --> 00:52:59,520
Jim Henson.
1129
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:00,520
This would be pretty cool.
1130
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,200
Oh, that'd be so cool to see.
1131
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,480
You need you'd need like a.
1132
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:11,160
Like Christopher Nolan or something like somebody who who's good at doing like a dark action
1133
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,160
story.
1134
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,320
Dude, a Christopher Nolan Ninja Turtle movie.
1135
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,400
Fucking Christopher Nolan doing the last Ronin would be fucking awesome.
1136
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:20,400
So cool.
1137
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,400
OK.
1138
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,400
Who does the voice, though?
1139
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,120
It needs to be gravel.
1140
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,400
I think it needs to be gravely.
1141
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:31,160
I think Ron Perlman would be that might be too.
1142
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,640
Too much of a departure.
1143
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,120
Yeah, well, I'm see I'm kind of leaning towards.
1144
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,120
Oh, OK.
1145
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,200
I've got two options for me.
1146
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,200
Tell me what you think.
1147
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,960
One is Josh Brolin.
1148
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:42,960
Sure.
1149
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:43,960
The guy who voiced Thanos.
1150
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:44,960
All right.
1151
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,160
I feel like his voice would be pretty good.
1152
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,160
Yeah.
1153
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,160
Two, Jason Statham.
1154
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,600
Jason Statham is the bald.
1155
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:59,440
I know who Jason Statham is, but he's got the rough Australian accent.
1156
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,240
Yeah, no, but it has to be somebody doing a New York accent.
1157
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:08,840
Yeah, but I think that it should be him trying to do a New York accent.
1158
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:09,840
You know what?
1159
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,280
Actually, OK, somebody who we talked about recently.
1160
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,280
OK.
1161
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,200
Oh, gosh, I can't think of his name.
1162
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,200
Christopher Walken.
1163
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,720
The guy who played Jax in Sons of Anarchy.
1164
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:22,200
Oh, geez.
1165
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,200
What is that guy's name?
1166
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:29,120
I want to say Jensen Echols, but I know that that's not that's that's that's supernatural
1167
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,120
boy.
1168
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,120
Yeah.
1169
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,360
Oh, he.
1170
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:34,720
He actually might be good, too.
1171
00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:37,200
Yeah, he might be good.
1172
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,480
Sons of Anarchy.
1173
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:40,480
Charlie Hunnam.
1174
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:41,480
Charlie Hunnam.
1175
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,960
OK, he would because you know he can do a good American accent.
1176
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,000
That's the only accent that he can do good.
1177
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,840
Yeah, he can't actually do Irish accents for shit.
1178
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:52,840
That's right.
1179
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:53,840
It was Rebel Moon.
1180
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:54,840
We were talking about.
1181
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:55,840
Yeah, yeah.
1182
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,760
Yeah, I would be I'd be up for Charlie.
1183
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,960
Charlie Hunnam doing the voice of Michelangelo.
1184
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,000
Yeah, I've like grizzled Michelangelo.
1185
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,000
Yeah.
1186
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,840
Yeah, I could see that.
1187
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:06,840
That might be fun.
1188
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:07,840
Who plays April then?
1189
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:12,440
We got to think like, oh, uh.
1190
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,000
Fucking true true romance.
1191
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,360
Oh, what's her nuts from true romance?
1192
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,360
Yes.
1193
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:19,720
Is it named Pearl?
1194
00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:22,160
Courtney Courtney, Courtney Arquette.
1195
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,160
Yeah.
1196
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,160
OK.
1197
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,160
Is it Courtney?
1198
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,160
Patricia, Patricia Arquette.
1199
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,160
Yeah, Patricia Arquette.
1200
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,360
She's like kind of the perfect age now.
1201
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,160
We talked about her in Severance.
1202
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,520
Yeah, yeah.
1203
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,760
And she's kind of the perfect age now where like I could see that.
1204
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:36,760
Yeah, she's old.
1205
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,080
She plays grizzled well.
1206
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,480
Yeah, I was thinking like Marissa Tomei, maybe.
1207
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:42,480
I don't know.
1208
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:43,480
OK.
1209
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,280
But Marissa Tomei is still too pretty to be like.
1210
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,760
I mean, they could do they could make her look because she's they can make her look
1211
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:51,760
dinged up.
1212
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,560
She is still looks great.
1213
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,080
Like it's it's it's crazy.
1214
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,080
Right.
1215
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:58,080
Right.
1216
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,080
Right.
1217
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,080
OK.
1218
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,080
All right.
1219
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,080
Moving on.
1220
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,080
Amber Heard.
1221
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,080
How about that one?
1222
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,960
Let's let's have April O'Neill be Amber Heard.
1223
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:11,520
Or they can make it Megan Fox again and just age her up like crazy.
1224
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,560
Did you watch that that version of the Ninja Turtles?
1225
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,760
Uh, I that movie I watched like probably 10 years ago.
1226
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,560
I watched a little bit of it and I didn't like it.
1227
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:21,560
It's not very good.
1228
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:22,560
I saw that in theaters.
1229
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:23,560
Kendra.
1230
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,880
Well, they did a sequel to.
1231
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:26,880
I didn't see the sequel.
1232
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:27,880
Yeah.
1233
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:28,880
Yeah, they did a sequel.
1234
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:29,880
I think what's his nuts?
1235
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,880
The guy who played Green Arrow plays, please.
1236
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,640
Casey Jones, Stephen Amell.
1237
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,720
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that he.
1238
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:39,720
Ninja Turtles.
1239
00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:43,520
Let's take a look.
1240
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:49,080
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Out of the Shadows came out in 2016.
1241
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,360
Megan Fox plays April O'Neill.
1242
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,000
Laurel Lenny's in that.
1243
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,000
Oh, yeah.
1244
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,000
Yep.
1245
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,000
Stephen Amell plays Casey Jones.
1246
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,000
All right.
1247
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:03,400
Well, at this point, I think that we are ready for ratings, my friend.
1248
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,040
So let's see.
1249
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:12,480
We've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven weapons between the four Ninja Turtles.
1250
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:19,720
I think we're going to go out of one to seven Ninja Turtle weapons.
1251
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,880
Six out of seven.
1252
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:23,880
Six out of seven.
1253
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:24,880
Pretty high up.
1254
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:25,880
Yeah.
1255
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:26,880
Yeah, no, I like this.
1256
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:27,880
I liked it a lot.
1257
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,880
I think maybe seven.
1258
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,000
There's nothing about this I didn't like, genuinely.
1259
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,360
Even any criticism I have is just like really minor and just stuff that I think maybe could
1260
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,880
have made it better, but didn't necessarily take away from it.
1261
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:41,880
Sure.
1262
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:42,880
I really like the story.
1263
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,360
I liked how dark and gritty it was.
1264
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:45,360
Yeah.
1265
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:46,360
Well, good.
1266
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,240
I'm glad I kind of figured that you would like this one.
1267
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,880
I think the art we didn't really even talk about the artwork.
1268
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:51,880
The artwork's incredible.
1269
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:52,880
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
1270
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:53,880
The way it threw out.
1271
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:54,880
Yeah.
1272
00:57:54,880 --> 00:58:00,680
Yeah, I had some comments, but I just as far as not bad comments about the artwork, just
1273
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,000
some things, but it really doesn't matter.
1274
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,440
It doesn't take away or add to the conversation that we had.
1275
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,400
So, yeah, I enjoyed the artwork.
1276
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:19,040
I actually really liked the flashback scenes, like all of the so well, yeah, the scenes
1277
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:24,320
where the turtles die, essentially, like those those scenes I thought were really, really,
1278
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:25,320
really looking up.
1279
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,060
Let's see if I can find it real quick.
1280
00:58:29,060 --> 00:58:34,120
They are essentially like done in a sepia tone that are intentionally meant to kind
1281
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,280
of harken back to the classic Ninja Turtles comics.
1282
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,120
Yeah, they were cool.
1283
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:43,920
Yeah, I really liked all the flashbacks, even though I didn't necessarily love the way Leonardo
1284
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,120
went out.
1285
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,600
That one felt the least just the least interesting to me.
1286
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:53,000
Yeah, I mean, some of them I fit like Donatello and Splinter fighting all the foot soldiers
1287
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,720
on that in that snow covered graveyard.
1288
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,520
It's fucking incredible.
1289
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:06,440
Leonardo or Raphael fighting, fighting the lady shredder.
1290
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:07,440
Yeah.
1291
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,880
And yeah, he's fighting like the whole foot clan.
1292
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,520
Then they end up diving into the water.
1293
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:13,520
Awesome.
1294
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:18,280
Yeah, I think a lot of the flashback scenes are just really beautiful looking.
1295
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:23,560
Yeah, I think that with Leonardo, if he would have here's how his death scene should have
1296
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:28,520
gone because he's kind of known as the tactician of the group of the family.
1297
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,280
So he should have done everything perfect.
1298
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:37,120
Like it should have been a setting where he has made all these plans.
1299
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,320
Tactician wise, everything is perfect.
1300
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:40,720
Everything is going to plan.
1301
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:46,760
But even though they're being sieged essentially when he dies and even though he's put all
1302
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:53,200
of these things in plan and it's done perfectly, they're just so overwhelmed by the sheer amount
1303
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:57,400
of foot ninjas or foot soldiers that that's what took him out.
1304
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:58,400
Yeah.
1305
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:04,160
They they kind of lead you to believe that because of him and Casey making their stand,
1306
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,280
Michelangelo and April were able to get away.
1307
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:08,280
Yeah.
1308
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:13,640
But I feel like if they would have really solidified like, oh, this is going exactly
1309
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,960
how Leonardo wanted it to go.
1310
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,960
It just they could not account for the sheer number of enemies that showed up at their
1311
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:20,960
doorstep.
1312
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:26,120
So I think that that would have been kind of kind of cool to kind of lay in because
1313
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:32,320
with all of the other ones, I felt like they were playing into the tropes of those characters,
1314
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,720
like wrath going off and storming.
1315
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:35,960
That's very Raphael.
1316
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:36,960
Right.
1317
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:43,800
And and having Donatello go with Splinter to like discuss and debate and talk on behalf
1318
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:44,800
of their clan.
1319
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:45,800
Yeah.
1320
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:46,800
Makes sense for Donatello to be the one to go.
1321
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,360
Yeah, he's like the most level headed and kind of like intelligent.
1322
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,880
So so yeah, I see what you're saying as far as it just kind of feels like, oh, he just
1323
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:55,880
died in an explosion.
1324
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,520
Yeah, that kind of sucks.
1325
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:03,120
So anyway, with that being said, I would probably have to agree with Thor.
1326
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:04,960
I think seven out of seven is the way to go.
1327
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,280
I think this is a really, really cool comic.
1328
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,280
It's one of the best that I've read in a while.
1329
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:13,200
The more and more I read comics, the less and less I want to read Marvel in D.C. I just
1330
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:19,240
want to read Image or IDW or any of the other indie comic companies.
1331
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,040
So folks, what do you think?
1332
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,620
Have you read the last Ronin?
1333
01:01:23,620 --> 01:01:25,560
There's talks about a video game of this coming out.
1334
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,880
Oh, I'd be fucking sick.
1335
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:28,880
Yeah.
1336
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,680
Have you read it?
1337
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:31,680
Let us know.
1338
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:32,680
Let us know what your thoughts are.
1339
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,000
Let us know who your favorite Ninja Turtle is.
1340
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,000
Are we all wrong?
1341
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:41,520
Because Raph is pretty popular and he yeah, Raph's OK.
1342
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:42,520
He did die first.
1343
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:43,520
Let's be real.
1344
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:44,520
Everybody likes Raphael.
1345
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:45,520
Yeah, shut up.
1346
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:46,520
Shut up.
1347
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,400
You like Wolverine too.
1348
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:49,400
Of course, they like Wolverine too.
1349
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:50,400
Original, you fucking ass.
1350
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,400
Yeah, of course they like Wolverine too.
1351
01:01:53,400 --> 01:02:00,440
I'm getting mad at like hypothetical messages we haven't even received.
1352
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,640
So you can find us on a number of avenues.
1353
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,000
You can send us an email.
1354
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:09,400
You can find us on Spotify, Instagram, Facebook, all the social medias, except for the ones
1355
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,360
I didn't list.
1356
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,320
And you can find us on email.
1357
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,960
You can send us an email at getrecpod at gmail.com.
1358
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,360
Thor, I'm going to let you spell that this time.
1359
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:25,760
It's getrecdpod at gmail.com and Micah for next week.
1360
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,360
Oh yeah, what are we getting into?
1361
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,200
OK, so Michelle reached out to me.
1362
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,560
Our most faithful listener has been with us since the very beginning.
1363
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,080
Love Michelle.
1364
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:41,880
She gave us, she was like, I have two movies and both of these are movies that we've seen.
1365
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:46,480
But I feel like they're movies neither one of us has seen recently.
1366
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,080
And I think they'd be fun conversations.
1367
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:54,520
So would you rather watch Trainspotting with you and McGregor about him being a heroin
1368
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:55,520
addict in Scotland?
1369
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:56,520
Yeah, real fun.
1370
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:00,800
Or the 1995 movie Hackers?
1371
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,320
Oh my gosh.
1372
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,240
I would be up for either of those.
1373
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:11,320
See me, I was thinking, honestly, I think I would rather watch Hackers.
1374
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:12,320
You want to do Hackers?
1375
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:13,320
Yeah, sure.
1376
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:14,320
Let's watch Hackers.
1377
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:15,320
That one I remember less.
1378
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,720
Like I've watched Trainspotting more recently.
1379
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,680
It's been a long time since I've seen Hackers.
1380
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,240
I think probably in the 90s, like not long after it came out.
1381
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,360
I don't remember anything about Hackers at all.
1382
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,480
I remember like there are flashes of it.
1383
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:34,080
Like I can remember like a screenshot in my brain basically of like a scene.
1384
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,480
But as far as the actual plot, God, who knows?
1385
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,800
I imagine that they're Hackers.
1386
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:40,800
But other than that.
1387
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:47,280
You have Angelina Jolie, Matthew Lillard, Johnny Lee Miller.
1388
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,680
OK, yeah.
1389
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,640
Oh, man, I just pulled this up on IMDb.
1390
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,240
It's so 90s.
1391
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:54,240
Oh, yeah.
1392
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:55,240
Yeah.
1393
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:59,560
From what I recall, it's like the most 90s movie to ever be made in the 90s.
1394
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,560
Penjolet is in this?
1395
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:02,560
What?
1396
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:03,560
Yeah.
1397
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,360
Yeah, Penjolet's in it.
1398
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,360
Mark Anthony's in it.
1399
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,520
OK, yep, this will be fun.
1400
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:10,520
This will be fun.
1401
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:11,520
I don't.
1402
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:12,520
Oh, that's right.
1403
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,360
And Shaggy is in this too from the Scooby Doo movies.
1404
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:15,360
I forgot.
1405
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:16,360
His stupid braids.
1406
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:17,360
And this.
1407
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:18,360
All right.
1408
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:19,360
Yeah.
1409
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:20,360
Oh, yeah, he has braids in this.
1410
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:21,360
Oh, my God.
1411
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:22,360
Yeah.
1412
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,960
So let's watch watch Hackers next week.
1413
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,680
I'm totally down for that.
1414
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:28,680
Totally down for that.
1415
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:29,680
OK.
1416
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,320
Hey, folks, it's Thor from the future here.
1417
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,440
So we are not doing Hackers next week.
1418
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:41,080
We're actually doing a crossover episode with Zach McCrary from the comics that we love.
1419
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:45,320
We're both doing a spidey centric week.
1420
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,200
So on his show, we're covering a Spider-Man comic.
1421
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:57,080
And on our show, we are covering a fan made 1992 film called The Green Goblin's Last Stand.
1422
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,940
It's available for free on YouTube.
1423
01:05:00,940 --> 01:05:02,720
So disregard the thing about Hackers.
1424
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,240
That'll be on the following week.
1425
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:06,640
And I'm here too.
1426
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,120
Me too.
1427
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:09,600
We're all here.
1428
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:10,640
Yep.
1429
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,000
So as always, folks.
1430
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:14,000
Nope.
1431
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:19,320
So until next time, folks, as always, I'll get it someday.
1432
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:20,720
You get wrecked out there.
1433
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:21,720
Stay wrecked.
1434
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:22,720
Yeah.
1435
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,920
What's the favorite?
1436
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,360
What's the what's the line that Ninja Turtles use all the time?
1437
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:29,680
What's their catchphrase?
1438
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:30,680
I want pizza.
1439
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:31,680
Oh, I thought it was Cowabunga.
1440
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:32,680
Oh, it is Cowabunga.
1441
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:44,320
That's right.