Luka Doncic’s Numbers Force The MVP Talk

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A twenty-four-year-old rookie calls Luca trash in his first NBA game.
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Friday, Luca answers with 21 in the first quarter.
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Sunday, that rookie drops 37.
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And then a draft class with five names and no number one.
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A 7'3 center from Italia.
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A temper that is reported not proven.
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And a 17-year-old, nobody that can tell me who he guards.
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And then two guys who won championships together.
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It'll all make sense once we get through it.
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Let's go.
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We've been in the film room.
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We've been, you know, watching games, getting it through.
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We're going to have grown conversations about these players, some of the coaches, the front offices that are actually making moves.
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Real G's were moving silence.
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You know that.
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And we're going to talk about some of the locker room chatter.
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And some of the PR spin.
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And it was heavy this week.
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The actual and the verify receipts.
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We are bringing jokes to the dome piece today.
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We also have the advanced math and the exact barbershop ammo that you need to take back straight to your group chat and completely nuke the argument.
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If you're an NBA sicko like me, who be watching them Sacramento Kings games to see Darius A cuff shoot the ball 26 times and then have Demonis Sabonis only shooting the ball five.
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You know where you need to be.
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So let's go.
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We're gonna get into it.
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Yaxo Lundenberg looks like a real rookie of the year threat.
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So he goes out here.
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He is um he's trash talking Luca, which was interesting in his first game, but it doesn't stop there.
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Yaxel Lundenberg has 156 coins through his first seven games.
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He trails only Will Chamberlain and Rick Berry for the most points by any Warriors rookie through seven games.
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It's two questions really.
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First, is Jaxel Lundenberg a real threat for rookie of the year?
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And the scarier question, is Yaxel a fundament a fund foundational piece for the Warriors?
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Now, as a Lakers fan or as a Lakers supporter, however you want to put it, I try to take a lot of my fan hat off and put the analyst hat on when I'm doing the podcast.
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But you know I believe purple and gold fool.
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You know I do.
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So I would love to tell you that Friday night was a real was real Yaxel.
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Luca had 21 in the first quarter, made him look silly.
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The rookie only had six points.
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He looked shook.
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He had five turnovers to go out, go go along with that, and he also fouled out.
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That was fun for me.
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That was sport.
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Luca was playing with his food.
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But then Sunday happened, and the Yaxo scored 37 points on 13 of 19 of shooting against the Clippers.
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Now listen, the Clippers aren't great.
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You know what I'm saying?
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But anytime when rookies show that type of efficiency, you know, this podcast is definitely gonna really uh is gonna really geek out for stuff like that for sure.
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Here's what supports guests on both shots that he holds up.
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The efficiency was high.
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He's leading all rookies in scoring after uh four games, and he bounced back from the worst game of his life, as he so says it.
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And here's because he is like 24 and also moved around.
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Now we're not gonna because now all the dudes are doing it.
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If you stay in school for like three, four years now, you've probably been to two or three schools.
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It's not even a question anymore, it's just how life is that name, image, and likeness situation has completely changed the foundation of college basketball.
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It's more like junior NBA, basically, but they have a cooler tournament at the end.
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It's pretty much what it is.
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So let's get into some of some of the claims that we can make for on his rookie of the year kind uh claim.
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Let's give you a little background on our guy on the board.
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He's 24, he's 24.
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Uh, five years ago, he was in junior college at Yuma, Arizona.
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He went from Arizona to UAB, and then he went to Michigan.
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In that time, he piled up 3,000 points, 1,700 rebounds across the three stops.
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He pulled his name out in the 2025 draft.
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He transferred to Michigan and won a national title.
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So he won an Addy.
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And he was one of the driving forces of that team.
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Let's not make any mistake about it.
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Now we talked about his absolutely abysmal performance against the Lakers the other night.
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But again, in true Yaxel Laundryborg fashion, two days later, he put the ass whooping, belt of ass to the Clippers, and everybody was hurt.
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Everybody was taking the day off.
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You know, we had Curry out there resting, Draymond out resting.
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And it's it's the most points by a Warriors rookie since Steph Curry's 42 in April of 2010.
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So that 37 is touching greatness wherever he goes.
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Kerr says the game is still fast for him, and that the defense he has a lot to work on, and we hope there are better moments ahead for him.
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Notice what Kerr did just did there in six games, and he's already telling you the kid, has seen everything.
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He also is telling him that his defense needs work.
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True Steve Kerr fashion.
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Before the season, Draymond Green called him the next face of the franchise.
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That's big praise.
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Kerr says he's a strong, he's strong as an ox and he's skilled as well.
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And Golden State has already extended Brandon Parzinski and may be considering a similar deal for London Borg if he keeps can keeps improving.
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves, you know.
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I know the Lakers are real big on the rookies and stuff like that.
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They love Wiseman, they love Kaminga and Moses Moody.
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But we saw how that worked out in the past.
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Now, I don't think that Lundigberg is is those guys.
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I think he's a completely different dude.
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Personally, I think he's a very skilled for somebody 6'9, 240 pounds.
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But I want to see more.
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Obviously, we have a small sample size here.
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Now on draft night, the Warriors took him with the number 11 overall pick, a few spots ahead of his consensus, anywhere between 12 to 14.
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No problem there.
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And here's the thing: if you get your player wherever you get him at, and he turns out to be this productive, it doesn't matter.
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We got number 17 picks over here that are absolutely trash.
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They don't even play for us anymore.
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So I would love to have a pick that works out.
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Uh, we're still looking at you, Cameron Carr.
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I'll say this as as somebody who supports the Lakers, calling Luca trash in your first NBA game takes a certain confidence.
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Don't make that a habit.
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Curry said backing him down, backing him up after the Lakers game was part of why the Warriors came back from 25.
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That was a terrible game for the Lakers.
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Here's what I will say about my guy.
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These are the things that actually matter.
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Through seven games, 22 points, 22.3 points to be exact, 7.3 rebounds, 3.7 assists in 32 minutes.
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He also is averaging just a tick under one steal a game and uh 0.4 blocks.
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Now he's shooting 52% from the field with 14 shots a game.
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He's also 60 or 60% on twos, and his effective field goal percentage is 0.608.
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That's awesome.
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His true shooting percentage is 64.5, and he also has a usage rate of 27.1.
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So he's handling the ball a lot, he's shooting the ball pretty efficiently.
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His true shooting percentage shows you that.
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Because this another thing that we're gonna talk about momentarily.
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His PR is 21 and a half, and for a rookie, what all that means is that yo, he's productive as hell.
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Now, the big question from three, not bad, right?
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40.9% on 6.3 attempts.
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You know what I'm saying?
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That he shot 42% at Michigan, so this ain't nothing new.
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The only thing that's different is that the three-point shot is a little bit deeper in the NBA than it is in college basketball.
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But my man is knocking him down with regularity no matter where he's at.
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If he's at college with amazing gold, or he's in the Bay Area, the Yay area, reping the Warriors, reping Dub Nation.
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He doing his thing.
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His free throw 74.4%.
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Now it's not that mark that we're looking for, that 80% that we're looking for, but you know what I'm saying?
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He's a rookie.
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There's gotta be some things that are a little, you know, jinky.
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His defense lags, which is crazy, because he was a defensive dude when he was at Michigan.
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I think it'll slow down for him, and once he starts to be able to use his size and his quickness and his mass, I think that it will be better uh down the road.
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I think the Warriors got something here.
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Honestly.
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I mean, I love the swag.
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I love the situation where he is talking trash to Luca, even though you know Luca's our guy.
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But if you're sitting there and you're having this much confidence in your rookie season and you're not afraid, these are all positive signs for me.
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And um, if you want to look at it this way, here's the thing that you want to really kind of take to the bank.
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This dude is not gonna stop starting once Jimmy Butler and Moses Moody gets back.
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He's gonna be part of, I believe.
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There's no way you can take that type of production out of lineup when he's doing it.
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Now, obviously, if he starts to skid and slide or whatever, maybe there's a different story, but if this continues the way it is, and I don't see any reason why it wouldn't, the Warriors need him right now.
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His production is not a added bonus, it is absolutely needed.
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So Lonning Ward being who he is, and the best part about him is it was a negative when he was in the draft process, but it's a positive now.
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He's 24.
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So it's not like you're getting this kid who's 19, who, you know, he gets on his first road trip, has no idea what the hell is going on, trying to get into the nightlife and whatever the case may be.
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This is a grown-ass man.
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So he's trying to handle himself accordingly.
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He's been soaking up the knowledge under Steph Curry and also Draymond Green.
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So I love that.
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I love the way he gets down, I love that he's coachable.
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Curry expects him to learn patterns, doubles, and pick and roll.
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Lundergorts says he watches film on himself.
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Yeah, I love that.
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The read his usage and his efficiency once Butler returns, who knows?
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Is he gonna be more of a spot up shooter?
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Maybe.
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But maybe by the time he gets back, the flow is so crispy that maybe it is a little change to the situation.
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I'm not saying that Jimmy Butler is going to be surpassed by somebody who's a rookie, but what I'm saying is that the production is needed.
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And Jimmy is not a guy who takes volume shots, especially when we're talking about the three ball.
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Well, Yaxel would.
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And they're gonna need that, they're gonna need two guys who can spot up and hit the trade ball, and you got Steph Curry, so a Yaxel Lundberg out there doing his thing, and uh willing passers like Jimmy Butler and also Draymond Green help that situation out.
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So, my question is this is he a rookie of the year candidate?
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You got dog right he is.
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And it's not what he did to the Lakers, it's not all that.
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It's what he's doing for his team.
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And what he's doing for his team is being productive.
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Anytime you over 20 points a game as a rookie, you're doing work.
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Is he gonna be a foundational piece?
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All depends on what you're looking for.
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Now I think he can be.
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I think he can be.
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I don't think he can be the number one guy, but I do believe he can be like the number three guy if you're talking about what we're looking for in a in a player.
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Is he uh he is a perfect compliment to a Steph Curry or whatever the case may be.
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He's a perfect compliment to I'm trying to think.
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Oh, could you imagine him liking Charlotte or something?
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Now listen, Duff man, I'm not trying to take your boy away from you.
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What I'm saying is is that him or Yaxel in Charlotte as another like spot up shooter and somebody who can get to the rim and what have you, willing passer, also a good rebounder, useful.
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And when you have Brandon Miller and you have Khan Knippel, Yaxo Lundberg fits into that situation.
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So I think Golden State obviously doesn't have its one and two for the future, but Yaxo fitting into that mix 100%.
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I do believe that he can be a foundational piece for a team that is competitive.
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Now, the dude that he dissed, we need to talk about it.
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Because here's the thing Luca Donce is out here is he on a mission.
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Apparently, the mission is to take as many basketball souls with him uh as he can all season.
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My man has 87 points in 71 minutes over the last uh couple games.
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Okay?
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That's what he's doing.
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So Sunday and Monday, they play back to back 87 points in 71 minutes.
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That's straight.
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Lucas' performance are sheer artistry, and the numbers he's putting up are crazy.
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But I still don't believe in the Lakers defense, and I know they need another wing.
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They can use a Yakso Lunderberg.
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Somebody who can rebound and uh rebound the basketball, play some defense, and knock down a three-point shot.
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So, questions that we have right now is how long the art can carry the team that ranks 20th 20th in defensive rating, and you know I'm a Lakers supporter for show, so I tell you where that helps and where it doesn't.
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So let's get to the Luca artistry, shall we?
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Sunday against the Raptors and Monday against the Heat.
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My boy, I told you he put up 87 points, but check this out.
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26 of 47 shooting with 14 threes in a 24 hour span.
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He has 226 points through his first six games.
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He is third, he's the third player since 1960 to do that.
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You wanna you wanna hear the names that he's next to?
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Michael Jordan and Will Chamberlain.
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Michael Jordan in 86 and Will Chamberlain did it twice.
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Lakers back up, big Sanjo, Mamu, Killis Vili said you need three guys to guard him.
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Three guys.
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I want to see three guys.
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I like to see them, I like to meet them and s have them for tribute.
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May the odds forever be in your favor.
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Sunday he became the second player, Luca, that is, became the second player since the steals were tracked in 1973 to score 45 points.
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Oh, by the way, he grabbed 15 rebounds, he handed out five dimes, and also also pilfered five pockets.
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You know what I'm saying?
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He had five steals in one game.
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The other is Anthony Davis.
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Can you imagine?
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Imagine Anthony Davis now.
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I bet you he wish he was here chilling with the Lakers, just chilling.
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Monday against the Miami.
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He he had his 29th career 40-point game uh with 10 assists, which is third most behind Oscar Robertson and James Harden.
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And it came on a back-to-back.
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Now, you want to talk about greatness, recognizing greatness.
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Giannis Anton Tecumpo called him the best scorer to play the game, if not the best, and then he was asked if he meant right now.
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He said, No, not right now, of all time.
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I feel like some people are scared to say that, but he's got he's got to be up there.
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So, game recognizes game.
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Giannis out here showing love to Luca Donchus.
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We love that, especially after you got belt to ass, okay, and you got handed a 21-point whoop ass.
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JJ Reddick says he feels like a supernova, but it also feels normal.
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We live on a spaceship and we're going at the speed of light all at all times when he's on the court.
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After loss to Portland last week, Walker Kessler said we've been relying on our offense a lot, and we have a very, very good offense and a lot of great scores, but that's not going to be the only thing that gets us to the win to win a championship around here.
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Now, we're talking about Walker Kessler in one second.
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Now you put those two side by side, the coach.
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To what he's saying about the spaceship and center talking about offense is not going to win it alone.
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He is 100% right in his subnation.
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And that's what this whole situation is about.
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I want to celebrate Luca because he's absolutely filthy.
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And we're going to talk about something at the end of this.
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And you know how I'm going to back the Lakers all the way.
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But let's get to what Dan Devine of Yahoo Sports had to say.
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He says that after a stretch between Luca's arrival at in 2025 at the trade deadline and LeBron's farewell this summer, the Lakers built a Luca Donce team.
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And they showed the show hell did.
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Now, here's the thing.
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Now Zaire Williams has been off and on with foot issues.
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Now he's back.
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He uh played a little bit last last night, which was great.
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And then also we got Matisse Stybel knocking down three balls on a historic level.
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This dude is knocking them down for him for him.
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I remember back in the day when that was not the case for Matisse Style.
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Now, you want to hear some numbers that that are scintillating to the to the touch?
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Luca Doncic is at 38.3 points a game.
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He also at eight rebounds on the dot and 8.1 assists with 1.9 steals and he's playing 35.7 minutes a game.
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More stats for you?
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Sure.
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Because it's all brilliant all the time when it comes to Luka Dodges.
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He is shooting 49.7% from the field.
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He's shooting 42.7% from the land of three.
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And that's on 13.7 attempts a game.
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Playboy, he's getting it done.
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And he's also hitting those free throws, which is great.
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Because last year he was a little inconsistent with that.
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Right now, he is shooting 80 88.7% at the free throw line with 10 attempts.
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Now, what else is he doing?
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The true shooting percentage is off the freaking charts.
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He's shooting 68.3%.
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His usage is an alarming 39.4%, and his assist percentage is 41.4%.
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We talked about Yaxo's Wonderbird's PR, and I told you I don't like that stat, but his was 21.
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Luca Donche's is 34 PR.
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But here's the best number that he has.
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I am a big proponent of box plus minus.
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And when I saw this, I was like it's gonna be hard, and we're gonna get into it in a second.
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His box plus minus right now, as it stands, is 11.3.
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Now, you know what that means.
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You know what that means.
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And I'm gonna say it right now.
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MVP season loading for Luca Donces is here.
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This is the season we've been waiting for.
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My man is doing enough on defense because he's a positive 0.8 on defense, which listen, you can s you can laugh at that all you want, but for Luca, that's very good.
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He's out here giving up his body, taking charges, and what have you.
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I think he has five over the last like four games or whatever.
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But the offense is off the charts.
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Okay, 10.8 or actually 10.5, which puts him at 11.3 total box plus or minus.
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And anytime that you're above 10, you're an MVP candidate.
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And I'm gonna tell you right now, he's writing, he's writing the stories.
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He's writing it, he's writing the book, and it looks good.
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Now the Lakers are scoring at a crazy rate, they're scoring uh 132.5 points per 100 possessions with Luca on the floor.
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The league leader in Rockets in uh lead league in uh offense averages is the Rockets at 122.4.
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The team that is 62, fourth in the West, is at 122.1, which is second in the league.
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But here's the problem: the defense.
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The defense is giving up 114.9 points, 20th.
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Now the net rate the net rating is still awesome, it's 7.2 because the offense is filthy.
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They rank 8th overall with that, but the defense is terrible.
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Now Walker Kessler is holding it down.
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Now I'm gonna give you his coins and stuff like that, but he's averaging 14.4 points a game, 10.5 remounds, he's shooting in 71.4%.
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But here's the big thing: 2.5 blocks a game, and when he's the closest defender at the rim, opponents are shooting 43.1%.
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That's the best mark among players who has faced at least 30 of those shots.
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So I'll say that again.
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When he's the closest defender at the rim, opponents are shooting 43.1%.
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Usually when you're at the rim, it's a layup or a dunk.
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My man is denying all of that.
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Luka Reeves and Kessler are plus 104 in 146 minutes together.
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That's the best three-man unit in the league so far.
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My guy Austin Reeves is earning that cheddar that he got.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Love it.
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He's at 23.6 points a game, 5.1 assists, and he's also shooting 54% from the field, 44% from beyond the three-point line, and 87% from the free throw line.
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I'm actually disappointed in the 87.
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Crazy, right?
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But I'm actually disappointed in that.
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It's the points that are given up, it's the turnovers that are also given up.
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Luca is averaging like five turnovers a game.
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That has to go down.
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That has to go down.
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Their one clear strength on defense on defense is Kessler at the rim.
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So he is actually earning the money that he was signed up for.
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So that's good.
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It's gonna have to come down to the wings getting it done.
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You know, can we put pressure on the ball?
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Do we have somebody who really does that?
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Bible's really not that guy.
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:40.799
Grimes doesn't seem to be that guy.
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Colin Sexton's a little too small to be that guy.
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Okay, I am that guy.
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And I don't know who they can go out and get.
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But right now, the Lakers defense is the only thing that's holding me back from being completely excited about this season.
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I'm so excited that the Luca the Luca Austin Reeves situation is working out.
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:50.720
I think they're one of the best tandems that we have in NBA basketball.
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But the defense has to get better, and we gotta be able to put more pressure on the ball.
00:30:57.680 --> 00:30:59.920
So is Luca an MVP?
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No doubt.
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He drives the ball 17.3 points a game.
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Um, you know, he's out here making threes, he's out here scoring 40 points almost every single night.
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:17.519
It looks like some Kobe shit, honestly, to tell you the truth.
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:22.319
R R P R guy, we love Kobe, but it does look like some Kobe stuff right there.
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I love it.
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:26.799
I think Luca can be an MVP candidate for sure.
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:36.000
And I know we get a lot of hate, but when your numbers are stacking up with Jordan and Will, there's nothing these people can say.
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:47.839
So the national media can go suck it if for some reason they don't want to give Luca his flowers for being as pivotal as he is for the Lakers.
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:50.960
I know y'all don't want us to have an MVP.
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:58.640
It's a shame that that Kobe Bryant walking around, well, not, you know, he only had one.
00:31:58.799 --> 00:31:59.599
You know what I'm saying?
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Like, that's crazy.
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And I'm telling you right now, Luca is going to be at least top three in this MVP situation.
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:39.200
When we might be able to beat him out, because if if the record is just crazy in San Antonio, if for some reason SGA can put up high 50, low 60 wins in Oklahoma City, and he has another SGA season, I can see the writers giving it to him for all this, what's going down in OKC with the injuries or whatever.
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:43.440
But my man Luca Doncic deserves to be put in this category.
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:55.759
He deserves to have to be talked about as an MVP candidate, and I think that is 100% crazy if he is not talked about that.
00:32:56.400 --> 00:33:00.720
Speaking of Luca, we need to get to next year's draft class.
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We are going to talk about some of the dudes that are coming out this year, man.
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And it's not the 2026 draft class, let's be honest.
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But are there some intriguing players?
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Yes, there are.
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And are we going to cover those players?
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Yes, we are.
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Are we going to get you ready for the 2027 draft?
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No.
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We're not going to have you wait.
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We're going to get you in.
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We're going to get you uh together, and we're going to have you up to date on what you need for this situation.
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Quick question: Name the best draft prospect in the 2027 class.
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If you hesitate, you're not alone.
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Because ESPN's Jeremy Woo says that this class looks like the 2024 class, which had no true consensus number one.
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So today, five names that we're going to talk about are Tyron Stokes out of Kansas, Dus Stefan, uh Jokomovich out of Bascalonia, Jordan Smith Jr.
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out of Arkansas, Bruce Granch the third out of BYU, and Luigi C uh Su Yoji Suigo.
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Could be Sweigo.
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We're gonna call Swiggs out of Villanova.
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So these are the guys we're gonna talk about.
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And I am always a glass half-full type of guy when it comes to these draft picks.
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Now, is it the 2026 draft class where you had star-studded situations like AJ Devonta, uh, you had Darren Peterson, you had our guy Cam Boozer, you had Caleb Williams, no, and all the rest of them.
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That that draft class was deep, it was crazy.
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:07.519
But here's the thing that we need to talk about when we when we go into this.
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Just because a draft class, just because a draft class is not that star-studded, oh, we got nothing but viral comments coming out of this draft class, like this dude is compared to this dude and whatever.
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That doesn't make it a bad draft class.
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What it makes it is that these are guys that are going to fill roles on your team.
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Okay, these are guys who are going to probably play productively for 10 years in the league.
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Are they gonna start?
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Some of them will.
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Could happen.
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Are they gonna be perennial MVPs?
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Probably not.
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But you know what?
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If you are the Utah Jazz of the world, you're the Portland Trailblazers of the world, you're the Memphis Grizzlies of the world, you're the Charlotte Hornets of the world, and I mean I'm gonna say this with all due respect.
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If you're the New Orleans Pelicans of the world, you need these guys.
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You need these guys to do what they do and give you the 14 to 16 points every single night to make your team go.
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:45.519
So let's get into it real quick.
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Tyron Stokes out of Kansas.
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We're gonna start at the top because he's pretty much the guy that you know comes in usually at number one when you look at the consensus boards and what have you.
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Let's talk about him a little bit.
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Tools, he already has an NBA frame because he's standing 6'7, he's 230 pounds, and this kid is 19 years old.
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Clearly, he drank his milk.
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Okay?
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:16.320
Clearly, they was feeding him right.
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:22.559
Now he is a strong, twitchy, and he's a load in transition.
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He's a ball handler for his size.
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I love that part.
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:35.519
Now, Sports Illustrated says that he thrives defensively on frame, on stocks, against lesser competition.
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:41.760
Well, I can see that because he's probably being bigger than everybody else that he's played against.
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Standing at 6'7, 230 pounds.
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Now, he is in the Big 12.
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He's gonna go up against some big boys.
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So we'll see how that all plays out.
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We'll see if he has a couple tricks up his sleeve that are not just based on his athletic prowess or his just I'm bigger than you, so I'm gonna just muscle you down and get to whatever spot I want.
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:16.880
Now, if this was a tools contest, we'd be done in 30 seconds.
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But it isn't.
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So Jeremy Wu says this, and Bleacher record Jonathan Wasserman says this about him.
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Uh, NBA executives have concerns about his maturity level and his demeanor, and that scouts have noted his uncourt temper that sources are unnamed.
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So, we got a little maturity issue that has raised his head.
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We will monitor this situation closely as the college season has just started, so we will see if my man, if he gets into a little adversity, what happens.
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Now, I'm the type of person that we gotta see it.
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:10.000
We gotta see it, and then we gotta see how destructive it is to the team before we make our own decisions on that.
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:14.320
Just because you're a fiery competitor doesn't make you a bad dude.
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But I want to see how it affects him, how he then affects his teammates.
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Is he turning on his teammates?
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Is this a situation where he's now side-eyeing the coach or whatever the case may be?
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Then we can talk.
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:38.800
But if he's just like mad, mad at himself because he's not, you know, executing the play right, I'm not gonna trip off something like that.
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I won't do that.
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:53.840
Now, if you're doing it to the point where you're not getting back on defense, and then now you're hurting the team because they're on a they're on a uh five-on-four situation, then there's something to talk about as well.
00:39:54.400 --> 00:40:04.960
Now, the negative door language is from a credible source is one of those things that um usually outweighs the praise on his skills.
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:12.400
But again, we want to see a bigger sample size before we say anything.
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:15.039
Now, here's some of the things you need to know.
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The shot from three is streaky.
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:24.079
Um we wish the release was a little bit quicker.
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:34.400
He's inconsistent from the free throw line, and he should live at the line because of his size and his strength.
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:48.400
Now, AJ DuBonson, when he was at BYU and when he was in on the uh under 19 uh world team for the United States of America, that dude lived at the free throw line, and guess what?
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:51.199
He's doing that at the pro level as well.
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:55.039
So we hope that we get to see that from Tyrone Stokes.
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We'll see.
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Now, he's a switchable athlete, he does not space the floor right now, so he's using basically just the athleticism to get dunks and get to the basket, and he thrives in transition at this point.
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:18.480
Now, if it if the shot comes along, he can be a two-way star.
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:23.119
You know, that's what he could be.
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:28.239
That body, that that strength can really help him.
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:41.599
He also has a seven-foot wingspan, so that's also one of those things that is very tempting when you're looking at somebody who maybe not be your first option, but what could he be?
00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:45.360
What's what's the tools he's got that could help us?
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Is he is he dialed in on defense, those type of things.
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:58.800
We will see what Tyron Stokes puts together this year, but that's the first guy that we need to talk about.
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:03.199
The second guy is a complete export.
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No import.
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So sorry, other way around.
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He's playing in the Euro League, and that's Stefan uh Joseph Mosmovich.
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Now he's a six foot seven lefty, he's 17, he's turning 18 on November 16th, so happy early birthday to my boy from Slovenia.
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:35.280
Now, when his his under 18 year old basket got the gold medal, and he was the tournament MVP.
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:51.280
ESPN Wu wrote this that no 2027 prospect gathered more momentum this summer than that many around the NBA see him as a real number one contender.
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:54.800
Now, Bleacher Report has him fourth.
00:42:56.159 --> 00:43:02.960
Now, nobody was hotter than him, his name's like kind of flew off the boards, but here's the thing that we know about him.
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:07.360
He's out here, he's got a lot of tools.
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:08.000
Okay.
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:17.519
He his maturity with the ball in his hand, the comfort against physical defenders, no problem whatsoever.
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:19.360
Cause here's the thing.
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Just like with my guy who uh Costa Rica, who just uh debuted at UCLA, those guys have been playing with grown men since they were 15 years old.
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:37.760
So he's not worried about contact, he's not worried about physicality.
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:39.920
I'm 17 years old.
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:42.480
This is now light work for me.
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:53.039
He reads simple and has passes over the top of the defense that feels stuff is what you want to see from a seventeen year old.
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:59.760
He's gonna he's gonna slice and dice double teams and blitzes because he's reading it.
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Before you even get there, where the ball needs to go.
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:08.960
And here's the thing: he's making the right pass pretty much all the time.
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:10.960
And you gotta love that.
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:13.360
Here's the thing that I can't shake.
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:16.719
Um, nobody tells me who he guards.
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:24.960
Silence on the defensive defense is a signal that I'm not gonna pretend it isn't.
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:31.519
He plays a supporting role on his team and uh in the Euroleague.
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:36.320
Um former NCAA stars and draft picks.
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:47.440
So the senior sample is small, but I'm gonna tell you right now, as far as his his offensive acumen is off the charts.
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:55.360
If I had to kind of categorize him, I will say that he's a long development project.
00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:59.039
Realistically, he's a connectively wing.
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:02.960
His ceiling is a number one level initiator.
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:10.639
Bus risks are moderate to high because of the evidence of defense is so thin.
00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:23.920
Now, what I will say about something like this is because it sometimes, even even in our day now, where we have the internet and we have all these things, they don't have it over there.
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:32.079
So we're not getting a good film on these guys if they don't come over and play like college basketball.
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Like my guy Kusta Rica last night, who was dominant against Arizona.
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Anytime somebody came in the paint, and that dude is super real thin, he was blocking shots.
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And the only reason I'm talking about Custerica is because his the uh Jazumovich, his field level for the game has been compared to my guy Kusarica.
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:02.000
So that's the only reason I'm saying that.
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Now, there's also a weight conflict.
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One one uh scout has him at 187 pounds, Sports Illustrator has him at 205.
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:18.000
I don't know which one is true, so we'll we'll slice it down the middle.
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We'll say he's about 196.
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And at 6'7, that's a little small, that's a little slight.
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So as far as his defense is concerned, that might be the reason.
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He might be getting physical through and people are playing through his chest because he's slight.
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But you know what happens when you're 17 years old, you get bigger.
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Right?
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You get bigger, and the one thing I always want to bank on is that if you have the offensive acumen to see the reads before they happen, that means that usually you also have good um interpretation on the defensive side, so you can read the passing lanes and jump them.
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And if he's gonna do that, I think the defense will come along.
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Now, as he grows into his body, we will see how that works out and see that if he has the taste and the acumen for the defensive side of the ball.
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But as just a connector piece and a guy who can probably who will probably knock down a shot at a decent rate, this might be somebody to kind of get now and just allow him to come along.
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This is probably the perfect Oklahoma City uh pickup.
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This is probably the perfect like Memphis Grizzlies pickup because those two organizations they see they see beyond the weeds, so to speak.
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Now, another guy who also has been really hot this summer, and people have been long awaited his debut is Jordan Smith Jr.
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Now he's the easiest one to like, and I'm gonna tell you exactly why.
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He plays at Arkansas, so you know who he plays for.
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He plays for John Calipari.
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And what is John Caliperi known for?
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Getting sweet ass guards to the league.
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Right?
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John Wall, Derrick Rose, Tyrese Maxie.
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The list goes on and on and on, right?
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Caliperry gets guards that are awesome, and then he makes them more awesome, and then they go to league and become stupid.
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What do I like about Jordan Smith Jr.?
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He's a tank.
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He's 6'2, he's 200 pounds already, he's 19 years old, and Kegel have had him at as high as one.
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Sometimes you see him two.
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You know what you don't see him as?
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Five.
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He's in that top three, usually all the time.
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The traits that translate is that he has a relentless motor, his defense covers multiple spots, he puts real pressure on the rim, he's a demon in transition, and one uh outlet called him a transition machine.
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So, what that means is that if he is out in the open court, good luck.
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Good luck.
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And if you've seen the highlights, if you've seen the YouTube highlights, they are breathtaking because he got more bounce than else.
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Okay, he is out there dunking on fools that are six, seven inches taller than him, and he peep he putting people's faces in the rim.
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Now, the uh the defense, the motor, rim pressure, he has all that concerns.
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:08.800
Right.
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Obviously, three-point shooting is inconsistent.
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He is six foot two.
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Great.
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I'm not worried about that.
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What we don't have is a wingspan on him as of yet.
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And when you're six foot two, sometimes when you are getting put in that pick and roll situation, you become the hunted.
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Okay, and that is hard.
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Look at our guy Ree Shepard.
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Now, Ree Shepherd is not the athlete that Jordan Smith Jr.
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is, but what I'm saying is that usually when you're six foot two, you are the guy that everybody is looking for to put you in pick and roll, and they want to pick on you.
00:50:55.199 --> 00:51:06.000
Now, as a league guard or a second guard, he has uh he is a lead guard if the ceiling goes way up.
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He is looking for his shot.
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Okay, he's looking for Jordan Smith Jr.
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shot more than he's looking for his teammate's shot.
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So hopefully what we see with the development, and see this is where Callick Perry is brilliant.
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This is where Callick Perry really makes his bones, is that he takes guards who are usually score first guards.
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He allows them to open up the their third eye, and that vision comes along pretty well.
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So we'll see how this goes throughout this year, and we'll see where Jordan Smith Jr.
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ends up at the end of this year with the passing and how he's feeding the teammates.
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Is he sharing the sugar?
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Like I like to say, all the time.
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Now, can he score?
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100%.
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Can he defend at the point of attack?
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100%.
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Could he be a combo guard that starts in the league?
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For sure he can.
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Now, his ceiling is a high usage two-way guard.
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That means that the passing has come along.
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Now, if you want to say Darius Aka and Thomas both went to the NBA after one season at Arkansas, and then we're talking about Malik Thomas, the kid that is now playing at Cleveland and busting people's asses, or whatever, pause on that.
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:47.039
Um I mean, again, Caleb Perry's track record is that he takes guards like this all the time.
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:48.800
He gives them to the league.
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And they're usually very successful once they get there.
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So I'm not putting it past him to kind of file down the rough edges on our guy, Jordan Smith Jr., and get him to be what he needs to be.
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:14.000
Now I do have a report that his wingspan is six foot nine.
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But nobody has measured that.
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:19.840
That's that's just a claim that is out there.
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And let me tell you something.
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He he has a six foot nine wingspan.
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There's no doubt that this dude is gonna be able to do some things on the defensive side of the ball.
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No doubt whatsoever.
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:35.360
Now, is he still gonna get picked on and pick and roll?
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For sure.
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:44.000
Because he's dominion in size, he can still be seen over even though he has a six foot nine wingspan.
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Alright?
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But in the passing lane, he's gonna be devastating if that's true.
00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:53.840
We'll see how it all goes.
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:58.400
Now the guy who I like a lot is Bruce Branch III.
00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:03.920
He's gonna be a BYU, and he is the purest shooter on the board.
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Yes, he is.
00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:09.360
Okay, my guy can absolutely stroke it.
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:10.400
For sure.
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:15.760
6'7, 190 pounds, he's 18 years old.
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:26.320
He resec he reclassified up from the 2027, so then he can be draft eligible this year.
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:29.280
He is the best shooter on the board.
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:36.960
He's fluid, he has a quick release, and he has elite catch and shoot profile.
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:42.400
My man can get the ball and he is off the ground, and that stroke is pretty.
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:51.679
Now, in the summer of 2025, on the Adidas circus uh circuit, he shot 39% from three, and he averaged 16 points.
00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:55.760
Okay, so he was getting it in against elite talent.
00:54:56.159 --> 00:55:09.119
Um, when you're putting those type of points up at the like Adidas camp, and you know who goes to those camps, the elite of the elite, it's something to think about.
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:11.119
It is something to think about.
00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:18.800
Now, the questions show up about his weight and his assertiveness uh and 119 pounds.
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He's uh 21 pounds under the benchmark that we're kind of looking for usually.
00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:29.679
But here's the thing if you can shoot it, you definitely have a spot in the league.
00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:38.079
Now, when it comes to his assertiveness, I think some of that has to do with what you have asked him to do.
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Have you asked him to get in his bag and dribble and whatever and then you know uh drive and kick to the corners?
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If you haven't asked him to do that, then you asked him to be the shooter that he is, then that's probably where we're lacking.
00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:03.599
But I think with BYU, he'll get opportunities to show that he can pass the ball.
00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:10.880
They did this with AJ DeWonsta last year, and I think that they'll do the same thing for Bruce Branch the third this year.
00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:20.960
So BB3 will get his chances at holding the rock, and if he can just drive and make the simple passes to the corner and what have you, I think he'll be okay.
00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:30.159
Now, if you're asking about what his role is in the league, realistically, right now, he's a starting three in D wing.
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:40.159
His ceiling is a connector with secondary creation, and his star outcome is low to moderate.
00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:44.320
That's because we haven't seen the creation yet.
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If the creation comes along, fantastic.
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:51.599
Now, there's a record out there that his wingspan is 7'1.
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That's excellent.
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:54.239
You know how much I love it.
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Uh, it's the hardest tool to fake, but nobody has measured him yet.
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:05.440
So we'll obviously get those reports when he goes to Chicago to the draft combine or whatever the case may be.
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:10.320
But, you know, maybe we'll get a better read on this as the gear goes along.
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But you know, here at Frontrunner Podcast Collective, we're gonna stay on top of this for sure for you.
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Now, I'm not here's my final say on it on it is that he shoots it at such an elite level, and the range is really good, and he has a a repeatable motion that is you're not gonna have to fix his jump shot.
00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:40.719
That's what I'm trying to say.
00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:50.880
This is a clean jump shot, this is something that can be repeated over time and time again, and he can get it off at whatever level he needs to get it off at.
00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:58.320
So, Bruce Grant the third, to me, is a guy that is definitely gonna come in and get you buckets.
00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:19.760
If the wingspan is what they say it is, he's also gonna be able to help you on defense because here's the one thing of the tape that I've seen is that he is a willing defender, he's willing to put his nose in there and defend dudes that are bigger than him, uh, dudes that are smaller than him.
00:58:20.079 --> 00:58:24.400
He is a guy who wants to put pressure on the ball.
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:36.639
So that just the competitiveness, and then if we can just get him to like learn principles, and at BYU, he's gonna learn some principles.
00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:47.599
I think we're gonna get a really good uh robust panoramic view of what Bruce Branch the third really is.
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:52.639
So I'm looking forward to seeing him as this season gets started.
00:58:53.519 --> 00:59:00.800
The last guy that we need to talk about is he's in the Big East, is Luigi Suigo.
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:11.519
He's a seven foot three center from Italy, 19 years old, he measured out at 7'3 without shoes.
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:21.840
He's already 289 pounds at the combine with a recorded 7'6 wingspan.
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:28.480
He hits all the marks as far as what you want out of a center.
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:35.039
Uh, he withdrew his name from the draft this last June to play at Villanova.
00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:38.639
Most mocks have him as a late first rounder.
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Now he is eyeing the top ten, and the reason why we had him on the list is this unfortunately or fortunately, however you want to look at it, there's a guy in San Antonio by the name of Victor Wimbayama.
00:59:54.559 --> 01:00:05.119
Okay, that dude is a freaking unicorn, they say he's seven foot four, he's more likely seven foot six or seven foot seven.
01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:17.519
I don't want to, you know, I don't want to call it because my man keeps swearing to guy that he's seven foot four, but you look hella bigger than everybody else.
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:24.960
But why are guys like uh Luigi Suego coming into the league?
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:35.679
They're coming into the league because the big man is back, and you gotta have a big man to deal with Victor Winbanyama.
01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:43.360
Now, you can tell me, oh, it's the other bigs too, and blah blah blah, and all this other and that I got you.
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:47.119
You're doing this because it's Victor Winbanyama.
01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:50.800
Let's be real about what we're talking about right now, okay?
01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:54.239
So, Victor is here now.
01:00:54.480 --> 01:01:01.840
Some some idiot called this dude the Italian Wimby, and I'm gonna tell you right now, his game is nothing like that.
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:07.519
Okay, so whoever's calling him this, stop doing it.
01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:14.800
Because he don't have all of the skill set that Victor does.
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:16.800
He ain't bringing the ball up the court.
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:18.480
Can he shoot it?
01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:23.039
I seen clips that he can shoot it from the three.
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:28.000
Is he as flexible and as agile as Wimby?
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:29.679
No, he is not.
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:32.000
He's a drop center.
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:33.599
That is what he is.
01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:36.880
His movement skills aren't as great as that.
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:44.239
If he turns out to be, um, I'm trying to think, like Kessler light.
01:01:44.559 --> 01:01:46.480
Actually, Kessler can move his feet.
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:49.280
I'm trying to think of like uh Nurkic.
01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:50.800
Nurkic.
01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:57.280
If he turns out to be Nurkic, we're cooking with gas.
01:01:57.760 --> 01:02:02.639
But to say that he is the Italian Victor Wambayama is disrespectful.
01:02:03.679 --> 01:02:04.880
It's disrespectful.
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:06.320
Don't say those things.
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:09.920
Now, does he have an offensive game?
01:02:10.079 --> 01:02:11.039
Yes, he does.
01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:14.079
Can he re can he protect the rim?
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:18.000
He can protect the rim if he's underneath the rim.
01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:26.079
If he is being pulled out into space and then you're asking him to get back, that is not gonna happen.
01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:32.559
There are gonna be some slashing wings that are gonna take it to the hole and dare him to block it.
01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:42.960
So I I expect some early foul trouble for our guy until he gets uh up to speed on the speed of the college game.
01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:51.920
And then when he gets to the pros, he's gonna need another little more time to get caught up to the speed of that of that game as well.
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:55.440
Because there's a huge jump between college and pro basketball.
01:02:55.679 --> 01:02:56.880
We all know this.
01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:05.679
Um yeah, if he turns out to be uh Zach Edy from Memphis, you that's what you're looking at, right?
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:07.199
With an outside shot.
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:08.400
That's not bad.
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:15.199
So what have we learned about the top five or the top not top five, but the five guys that we looked at today?
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:43.760
They all have lost, they all are not coming in as complete or polished prospects, they all have something to offer the game for sure when it comes to that, but is this the draft class where you know you're looking at like you're salivating over the top five and you're looking at and then you take a second glance and you're going like dude, there's some guys at like the nine position or the 11 position that I want.
01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:46.480
No, no, it's not.
01:03:46.800 --> 01:04:09.360
But if you look at the draft cleanly, if you look at the draft with pure spirit and heart, you can say, hey, this is a guy that can work on my team, this is a guy that can help us, this is a guy who can be in our top eight rotation, and he will be able to give us productive minutes wherever we think wherever we can uh develop him to, and what have you.
01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:13.920
So I think there's a lot of guys in here, and we'll get to most of them this year.
01:04:14.079 --> 01:04:18.800
Uh, we'll have our big board up sometime by the first of the year, no doubt.
01:04:19.119 --> 01:04:32.800
And I think you'll be pleasantly surprised about some of the guys, and here's the thing there's always a couple of dudes that come out of the woodworks that we weren't expecting.
01:04:33.599 --> 01:04:39.199
Remember the rise of Yaxel Lundigberg this year, this last year.
01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:41.760
Did anybody see that coming?
01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:42.400
No.
01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:45.760
So we'll see how it all goes.
01:04:46.400 --> 01:04:59.840
Now, we need to get to a topic that I waited to talk about, and you don't have to give me some space on this one because this one is going to be messy.
01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:16.239
So we need to break break down this Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum War of Words that have gone on that now has turned into some kind of telenovela that you usually see on uh Univision.
01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:16.880
Okay.
01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:23.119
What do you call it when two guys win a title together?
01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:31.920
They stop talking, trade shots through emojis, and then the team broadcaster starts doing PR live on TV.
01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:45.920
That's not a feud, that's a season of reality TV, and I've got the challenge, the love of hip hop below deck, and 90 day fiance and big brother all in one in this segment.
01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:59.760
It's about to get real crazy, so buckle up, go get you a nice drink, get you a little snack because we need to talk about this Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown energy that is going on.
01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:02.320
Through social media.
01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:08.639
The story went from frigid to farce in five stages.
01:06:09.119 --> 01:06:15.360
And the sixth is booked in November 10th in Philadelphia.
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:15.920
Okay.
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:20.960
The laughs only work if we understand the structure first.
01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:24.719
So we're gonna go and do both of those.
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We'll start with the temperature from December till now.
01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:37.920
Uh organizations actually handle this because the real answer is that it isn't one on Twitter.
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Now, disclosure, because I owe you that.
01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:44.639
I spent 15 years in Boston.
01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:45.360
Okay.
01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:52.719
Jalen Brown has always looked at himself as a number one.
01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:58.880
Now the Celtics have told you that Jason Tatum.
01:06:59.519 --> 01:07:02.639
And they did it again when they traded Jalen Brown.
01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:06.800
That Jason Tatum is their number one.
01:07:08.800 --> 01:07:11.760
That never sat right with Jalen Brown.
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:41.360
Now, when he won the Eastern Conference MVP, and then the NBA Finals MVP, he thought that was going to put some respect on his name, and that that maybe that the organization, the Boston Celtics, would look at him as at least some sort of like 1A, 1B type situation, whatever the case may be.
01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:44.320
Now, we're gonna fast forward a little bit.
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:48.960
Jason Tatum blows out his Achilles.
01:07:49.679 --> 01:07:51.599
They think he's done for the year.
01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:52.559
All of that.
01:07:52.719 --> 01:07:56.480
Now, Stevens, we're gonna talk about the trade in one second.
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When it happened, Stevens starts tearing down, Brad Stevens, there front off exec, starts tearing down the team.
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You know, we start trading pieces off, whatever the case may be.
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Corzingas is the first one to go.
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There's a couple others to go because this is going to be the season that maybe the Celtics don't really contend.
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You know who wasn't on that situation, he wasn't on that energy whatsoever.
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Jalen Brown.
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Jalen Brown averaged damn near 29 points a game, had his best statistical season of his career, and kept the Boston Celtics afloat, and they were an absolute contender in the East last year.
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Now, Jason Tato comes back with 16 games to go.
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He helps out.
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He's not obviously he's not fully back from the Achilles injury.
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He's more of a facilitator, a connector, whatever the case may be, and we get them, and we'll talk about their record, and then we'll talk about how what happened in the uh playoffs momentarily.
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Let's get to Stevens.
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On the record, Stevens says of the trade that traded Jalen Brown again.
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We are just coming off 28.9 points a game.
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Okay.
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Stevens says the trade was about cap and usage.
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Off the record, league sources say that Brown was frustrated of being shopped.
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Both are in evidence and will be deal with this conflict.
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Here's how we're having fun with this.
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Every stage gets a show.
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Big brother for the blind side below deck for the captain's call 90 day fiance for who told who what love and hip hop for the shade and the challenge for the fade and the finale.
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Alright.
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So let's start.
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Stage one starts in December.
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Jalen Brown with Tatum out after his Achilles says that this is his favorite season.
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He says again in February the same thing.
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That this is his favorite season.
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Not the championship season where he was the finals MVP.
01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:39.439
Not the season where they hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy.
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He and Jason Tatum.
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He says the season where he's alone is his favorite season.
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A lot of people kind of did a side eye.
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You saw eyebrow raised.
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You saw a little, you saw the emoji where you put your hand on your chin and you go, hmm, why would he say something like that?
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Because it's the truth to him, fool.
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That's why.
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He was like, yo, I am tired of that light-skinned Negro, okay, getting all the praise, and I'm over here doing the heavy lifting.
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Jalen Brown has been a dog since he came into this league.
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Now, I'm not throwing any shade on Jason Tato.
01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:30.479
He's spectacular.
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:32.640
He is a great player.
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Uh he has a lot of skills, shoots the ball very well.
01:11:38.239 --> 01:11:45.600
Couple things that he doesn't do that Jalen does a little bit more of is that he turns he doesn't turn the ball over as much.
01:11:45.760 --> 01:12:02.720
And he seems to be able to kind of think through the game where Jalen Brown will use his superior athleticism, his strength, and his just dogged determination to get to the hole or get to his spot and be able to do things.
01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:07.279
Now, the organization had a problem with that, and I'll tell you why.
01:12:07.600 --> 01:12:12.319
Because Jalen Brown likes to work in that mid-range situation.
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And you say, well, well, if he's successful, why does anybody care?
01:12:17.439 --> 01:12:20.159
Kevin Durant has made a career out of it.
01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:25.279
The difference between Kevin Durant and Jalen Brown, two things.
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First of all, branding.
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Okay?
01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:40.560
KD, even though he has his quirks, has his little situations, his little stumbles on social media, people unilaterally love KD.
01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:45.359
Because it's like, even when KD messes up, it's like, well, that's KD being KD.
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Alright?
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That's a first and foremost thing.
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The other thing is Jalen Brown has always been salty towards the media.
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Okay?
01:12:54.640 --> 01:12:57.359
He thinks they have an agenda against him.
01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:05.119
He thinks he they have an agenda against how he does and what he does his thing.
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Not just on the court, but off the court.
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Okay?
01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:10.239
So you have that.
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Now, we get back.
01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:16.239
He says it's his favorite season.
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Do you know when Jay when Jason Tatum came back?
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16 games left in the season.
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:25.119
13 and 3.
01:13:25.279 --> 01:13:29.840
That was the record with Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum on the court last year.
01:13:30.720 --> 01:13:41.920
It all comes to an abrupt end in the first round when they lose to the 76ers who come back from a 3-1 deficit.
01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:42.800
Okay?
01:13:43.359 --> 01:13:44.720
To win that series.
01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:46.239
Critics like Stephen A.
01:13:46.399 --> 01:14:04.159
Smith, among them, pointed out at the timing, Missoula says there is no tension that comes from these comments that Jalen Brown said about that this is his favorite year when I'm solo dolo by myself getting these buckets.
01:14:04.239 --> 01:14:08.960
And why did this light-skinned person have to come back and ruin it for me?
01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:15.199
I could have had all the shine, done what I needed to do, and led Boston to the promised land.
01:14:16.079 --> 01:14:17.119
We still don't know.
01:14:17.279 --> 01:14:18.800
We we don't know about that.
01:14:19.039 --> 01:14:24.479
We don't know if that's true or not true, but they went down 3-1 to the 76.
01:14:24.720 --> 01:14:28.239
They they lost after being up 3-1 to the 76ers.
01:14:28.880 --> 01:14:44.000
So before the trade, league sources told Boston Globe Adam uh Himmelsbach, who does great work for the Globe, said that Brown had grown frustrated with the organization approach after his career year.
01:14:44.479 --> 01:14:51.119
Scores illustrated Chris Maddox said that the Twitch streams caused headaches in the front office.
01:14:51.359 --> 01:14:59.199
Boston reportedly shopped him, including in the Giannis Anti-Tacumpo package.
01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:07.439
Now, if this was Big Brother, this is the diary room and everybody's smiling in the house.
01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:19.920
While the others the other one is out of the house and the rest of the cast is going, okay, who is that for?
01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:32.159
Laugh handled from the sports hub calling caller named Rob from Rhode Island put leadership void to Missoula live on the air.
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Rob had notes.
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Then July came and the production got serious.
01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:42.720
Stage two the Cold War begins.
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On July 1st, the trade is reported.
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On July 6th, it is official.
01:15:49.680 --> 01:15:54.239
Jalen Brown goes to the 76ers for Paul George.
01:15:55.600 --> 01:16:06.159
Two first, two seconds, Stevens Stevens, Brad Stevens, who is the front office exec, and the owner, and I want you to remember this.
01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:19.520
Bill Chisholm, the owner, the new owner, by the way, because when Wick Grossbeck was in the building, there was never a thought of trading Jalen Brown.
01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:27.520
Now, you can say he traded, he um he sold the team just before the kitchen got hot.
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You can do whatever you want, but I'm gonna tell you right now, anytime there was a report, and this is before they won their championship, because remember, there was a lot of years there where Boston was very close and did not make it.
01:16:41.680 --> 01:16:55.119
Okay, so now we get back to Bill Chisholm, and they say, This is about optionality, and this is about cost of two max level players, high usage players.
01:16:55.439 --> 01:17:06.880
Tatum was not consulted, Steven says, Neither side was disgruntled, so Stephen says now here's the thing.
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First of all, you got bucked back Paul George.
01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:14.560
How much money does Paul George make?
01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:22.800
Oh, he makes basically the same amount of money as Jalen Brown.
01:17:23.439 --> 01:17:28.800
Oh, you didn't want to give Oh, you didn't want to give Jalen Brown the extension.
01:17:29.279 --> 01:17:29.920
Gotcha.
01:17:30.399 --> 01:17:31.359
Understand.
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Okay.
01:17:33.359 --> 01:17:35.520
Bill Chisholm, ton of money.
01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:38.479
Didn't want to give Jalen Brown the extension.
01:17:38.720 --> 01:17:42.159
Cause then too much money would have been caught up in two players.
01:17:42.399 --> 01:17:42.720
Okay.
01:17:43.119 --> 01:17:43.680
Gotcha.
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Just wanted to make sure we were all on the same page.
01:17:47.439 --> 01:17:58.720
Then Sham Sharania says that their personal relationship was close to non-existent as you could ever have over in the last year.
01:17:58.960 --> 01:18:01.279
It was a tale of two different people.
01:18:01.520 --> 01:18:04.960
Paul Pierce asked whether Shaq and Kobe hung out.
01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:06.159
Hmm.
01:18:06.479 --> 01:18:07.279
Mm-mm.
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Yeah, they did for a little while.
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And then Kobe got sick of Shaq because he was like he's never in shape.
01:18:15.840 --> 01:18:17.279
That wasn't the case here.
01:18:17.520 --> 01:18:25.199
That wasn't the case that Jalen Brown had all these like things that kept him from doing his job.
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Jalen Brown was always in shape.
01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:30.560
Jalen Brown didn't have a ton of injuries or whatever.
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And I'm not saying that Tatum did.
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I'm just telling you that that's not where the wedge between these two came.
01:18:38.479 --> 01:18:43.760
The wedge between these two dudes started a long ago.
01:18:44.880 --> 01:18:50.000
When they were talking about this being Jason Tatum's team.
01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:54.720
And that dude, Jalen Brown, took that shit to heart.
01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:57.279
He never felt that.
01:18:57.600 --> 01:19:02.159
He never felt that it was Jason Tatum's team.
01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:07.119
He always said maybe it's collectively both of ours.
01:19:07.279 --> 01:19:15.359
Um but he's always thought like when the chips were down and when they needed a bucket, he was the one getting it.
01:19:16.079 --> 01:19:17.520
So keep that in mind.
01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:22.319
The athletic Shakyah Shaquila Taylor wrote this.
01:19:22.640 --> 01:19:32.319
As many of us have experienced at work, they were just co-workers that clock in, did their job together, and then went home.
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And this is where it turns into below deck.
01:19:37.520 --> 01:19:41.279
The owner and the captain make the call.
01:19:41.439 --> 01:19:46.159
The crew member gets let go in the middle of the charter.
01:19:46.640 --> 01:19:51.199
It's not personal, it's the budget, it's the schedule.
01:19:51.520 --> 01:20:04.560
No yelling, no confrontation, just polite galley and a relationship shams cause as close as non existent as you could have.
01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:10.239
Nothing funny yet, and that is why it works as a setup.
01:20:10.640 --> 01:20:14.319
Now here is where it turns from cold to confused.
01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:18.000
Stage three, the misunderstanding.
01:20:18.239 --> 01:20:24.720
From August of this year 2026 to October 21st of this year.
01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:30.560
In August, Jalen Brown asked whether he talked to Tatum since the trade.
01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:32.319
He said not really.
01:20:33.760 --> 01:20:42.159
In October, Tatum says in a video that he just got off, caught off guard as the rest of the world.
01:20:42.479 --> 01:20:45.359
Brown says he was kept in the dark.
01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:52.640
And Steven says that he had several discussions with Jalen Brown.
01:20:53.359 --> 01:20:56.079
Somebody's not telling the truth.
01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:03.199
Um in person.
01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:07.359
That is one snippet, so verify that.
01:21:08.319 --> 01:21:08.640
Okay.
01:21:10.079 --> 01:21:12.159
This is where it goes 90 day fiance.
01:21:13.199 --> 01:21:15.600
I told you about the move.
01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:18.560
Nobody told me about the move.
01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:20.720
We had several discussions.
01:21:20.960 --> 01:21:26.479
Everybody remembers the family meeting differently, and nobody's lying, apparently.
01:21:27.199 --> 01:21:30.800
And the big brother of it all is this the blind side.
01:21:31.039 --> 01:21:34.079
Both house guests say, I have no idea.
01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:38.000
The head of household says, We told everybody.
01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:41.920
And then somebody posts a hat emoji.
01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:48.640
And if you don't know what that means, somebody's calling cap.
01:21:49.119 --> 01:21:52.880
And if somebody's calling cap, somebody's saying somebody's lying.
01:21:53.199 --> 01:21:59.840
So Brown answers the video that Jason Tatum says, I was completely off guard by this trade.
01:22:00.960 --> 01:22:04.399
Brown responds in the most brown way possible.
01:22:04.560 --> 01:22:09.840
He puts up a blue cap emoji on the 23rd of October.
01:22:10.159 --> 01:22:15.359
Tatum scores 36 against the Knicks and says he has no beef.
01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:24.640
He says he called he called and texted Brown the day of the trade and says he would welcome a conversation.
01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:30.399
Who says the fans are telling each other to go get their park on ready?
01:22:30.800 --> 01:22:31.840
Let's go.
01:22:32.640 --> 01:22:39.199
Tatum says, own words that night, we're in in entertainment business.
01:22:39.520 --> 01:22:45.600
Me personally, I'm not an off-the-court entertainment guy.
01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:59.439
Taylor read that as a subtle dig into Brown's Twitch streams, and we are too old to be having our relationship discussed on X, Y, and Z on the internet.
01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:04.720
We are now in the love and hip hop phase of this situation.
01:23:05.840 --> 01:23:10.319
Somebody answer a whole video with one emoji.
01:23:10.640 --> 01:23:13.600
That's not a cloud back, that's a receipt.
01:23:13.920 --> 01:23:15.920
The shade is in the hat.
01:23:17.199 --> 01:23:17.520
Okay.
01:23:19.039 --> 01:23:27.520
Then the other guy goes on in front of a camera and says, you know, I'm not into the show.
01:23:27.680 --> 01:23:29.760
I'm not into the reunion couch.
01:23:29.920 --> 01:23:36.560
I'm not into, you know, getting on Twitch and saying all this stuff and whatever the case may be.
01:23:36.800 --> 01:23:48.159
You can sit there and call it what you want, but we have gotten into a war of words or a war of word by one guy and a war of emojis by another guy.
01:23:48.479 --> 01:23:48.800
Okay.
01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:52.800
So where do we end up?
01:23:53.279 --> 01:23:54.720
How does this go?
01:23:55.119 --> 01:23:57.840
This is where it gets real beefy now.
01:23:58.880 --> 01:23:59.680
Stage 5.
01:23:59.920 --> 01:24:00.479
Farce.
01:24:00.640 --> 01:24:02.960
October 26th to November 1st.
01:24:03.199 --> 01:24:05.600
Brown says there is no beef.
01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:14.079
Though a little lamb chop, and he says Tatum has a great PR team.
01:24:14.880 --> 01:24:22.960
That Monday, Brian Scalagrini on his radio show, says Brown asked for a trade.
01:24:23.199 --> 01:24:25.760
Then walks it back on TV.
01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:29.840
A list of demands, not a trade, demand.
01:24:30.479 --> 01:24:33.520
Tuesday on XM serious XM.
01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:37.279
He says Brown has been playing the victim.
01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:38.399
Wednesday.
01:24:38.720 --> 01:24:41.520
Brown says he never demanded a trade.
01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:43.439
And that's he loves Cal.
01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:57.279
Meanwhile, on the Celtics own broadcast, Scalagrini jokes that if he were doing PR for Tatum, he would point out who led the league in turnovers.
01:24:58.079 --> 01:25:04.640
A team employee on the teams broadcast said PR work out loud.
01:25:07.119 --> 01:25:11.760
So who's following who and what receipts are being read?
01:25:11.840 --> 01:25:13.439
I'm gonna tell you right now.
01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:15.119
This is getting spicy.
01:25:15.279 --> 01:25:16.800
Let's get more into it.
01:25:17.039 --> 01:25:18.239
Check this out.
01:25:18.640 --> 01:25:30.319
Thursday caller or in July, a social media personality in LeBron circle claimed that he ignored each other's at Cannes Nightclub.
01:25:30.479 --> 01:25:31.600
That is a rumor.
01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:35.199
A private life claim unverified.
01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:38.159
This is between Jalen Brown and LeBron James.
01:25:38.399 --> 01:25:49.439
Okay, if this was where a show goes off the rails, a man cannot say no beef and then say then a season table.
01:25:50.239 --> 01:25:53.520
I like to enter this as into record.
01:25:55.359 --> 01:26:12.000
And the friend who only said that everyone's thinking the classic cast member friend says it on radio, then walks it back on TV, says it again the next day, then Brown answers, says, I love Scal.
01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:14.239
That's the challenge.
01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:15.840
It's just the game.
01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:16.800
I love you.
01:26:17.039 --> 01:26:21.119
To the guy who put his name out there for elimination.
01:26:22.800 --> 01:26:28.479
The team employee doing PR on the team's own broadcast.
01:26:28.720 --> 01:26:29.920
That's not a rumor.
01:26:30.079 --> 01:26:31.119
That's a bit.
01:26:31.840 --> 01:26:36.079
So does an organization that actually deals with all this.
01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:37.920
Let's go into the history.
01:26:38.720 --> 01:26:40.319
This ain't the first time we've seen this.
01:26:40.399 --> 01:26:42.560
Shaq and Kobe has done this.
01:26:43.279 --> 01:26:44.399
It was ugly.
01:26:44.640 --> 01:26:48.239
Does anybody remember what if you weren't around for 2004?
01:26:48.560 --> 01:26:50.960
It was the greatest soap opera that had ever lived.
01:26:51.119 --> 01:26:55.600
This was awesome general hospital type shit going on every single day.
01:26:55.760 --> 01:27:05.199
We had people going to Kobe and Kobe saying, you know, just passive, not really passive aggressive things, just matter-of-fact things about Shaq.
01:27:05.279 --> 01:27:10.960
And then Shaq saying he loves his little brother and that he's still the leader of the team.
01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:21.920
That was what was going on in the Lakers locker room as they were going for a three-peat that never happened because the Detroit Pistons knocked off a very dysfunctional Lakers team.
01:27:22.159 --> 01:27:25.119
Now we fast forward to 2018.
01:27:25.520 --> 01:27:31.119
Jimmy Butler goes full uh whatever you want to call it.
01:27:31.359 --> 01:27:33.119
This dude went crazy.
01:27:33.359 --> 01:27:59.680
He asked for a trade September 18th, October 10th, he goes to Thibodeau in the GM and says that Towns and Wiggins are trash, and then proceeds to take a bunch of the third string team and goes out during that practice and absolutely destroys Carl Anthony Towns and Wiggins and says, You want to pay them before me?
01:28:01.840 --> 01:28:05.279
You want to pay those two guys before me?
01:28:06.560 --> 01:28:14.239
Walks off the court, goes into a complete interview with Rachel Nichols and says, Hey, you know, it is what it is.
01:28:15.359 --> 01:28:16.399
Want more?
01:28:16.640 --> 01:28:17.439
We got more.
01:28:17.680 --> 01:28:18.960
2018 again.
01:28:19.119 --> 01:28:21.039
It was a good year for beef.
01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:33.359
Draymond Green and Kevin Durant get into it, and Draymond Green undresses KD on the bench on national TV.
01:28:35.439 --> 01:28:41.199
Calling him a B word, calling him like, oh, oh, you already gone.
01:28:41.439 --> 01:28:45.039
We already know you leaving, and stuff like that.
01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:48.800
So, we've seen a lot of beefs out here.
01:28:49.039 --> 01:28:51.359
But here's the bottom line.
01:28:51.680 --> 01:28:55.920
In 2026, the Celtics traded Jalen Brown.
01:28:56.239 --> 01:28:56.560
Okay.
01:28:57.680 --> 01:29:01.840
Did they trade him to the did they trade him to a different conference?
01:29:02.079 --> 01:29:02.319
No.
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They traded him not just to not even a different conference, they traded him within the division.
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They took back somebody who is seven years older.
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Paul George is 36 years old.
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They make basically around the same amount of money.
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Oh, by the way, Paul George has had extensive knee surgeries, leg issues, what have you.
01:29:31.279 --> 01:29:33.920
So it's not like you're getting apples for apples.
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Okay?
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That's that's to go there.
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Now, what's next?
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November 10th.
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Everybody be ready.
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Okay?
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We are going to have a Boston Celtics Philadelphia matchup.
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And if you think for one second, nobody's gonna be talking about this, you are absolutely crazy.
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Browns last season in Boston, 29 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists.
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In 71 games, they had 56 wins.
01:30:12.560 --> 01:30:17.359
Yes, they lost in the first round, early exit, what have you.
01:30:17.600 --> 01:30:21.680
Tatum is 28, and Brown just turned 30.
01:30:21.920 --> 01:30:26.399
They were 13 and 3 together when they were on the floor last year.
01:30:26.640 --> 01:30:34.479
So as far as getting as far as productivity on the floor, there was never issue.
01:30:34.800 --> 01:30:46.479
This is literally being about whose team it is and why isn't I'm not getting enough credit from Jalen Brown's point of view.
01:30:47.039 --> 01:30:53.600
Now, Jason Tatum has been the good soldier for the Boston Celtics the whole time.
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Is this a upper management situation?
01:30:57.439 --> 01:31:00.560
No, I do not blame Brad Stevens.
01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:11.439
I do think that the Enoch came from Bill Chisholm himself, the owner of the team, and said, Hey, we don't need to be in the second Apron.
01:31:12.319 --> 01:31:15.680
We need to make a decision on these two dudes.
01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:33.840
And since we got one dude who's kind of a little militant about the situation, and we got this other guy who is team boston all the way, great in the community, great on the commercials, and what have you, we want to put it around him.
01:31:34.720 --> 01:31:37.760
Let's jettison Jalen Brown off.
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Remember that book BS about oh uh analytically, Jalen Brown was the seventh best player on our team.
01:31:48.000 --> 01:31:54.239
Jalen Brown, who scored 27 points, seven rebounds, and five assists, is the seventh best player on your team.
01:31:55.279 --> 01:31:56.079
For sure?
01:31:56.319 --> 01:31:57.920
Are we are we there yet?
01:31:58.159 --> 01:31:59.840
Is that what we doing?
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Listen, I'm not here to make up your mind.
01:32:03.840 --> 01:32:09.520
As listeners, what I want you to do, reach out to me either on X or what have you.
01:32:09.760 --> 01:32:13.760
On X, my Twitter handle is at frontrunner PC.
01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:17.600
We have another Twitter hand Twitter handle or X handle.
01:32:17.760 --> 01:32:21.600
It is socially underscore FRPC.
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Both work.
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Let us know what you think about what we're talking about right here.
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Cause here's the thing.
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We need you in the comments, we need you crazy, because you know what?
01:32:31.840 --> 01:32:33.439
I don't think this is over.
01:32:33.840 --> 01:32:35.760
I do not think this is over.
01:32:36.159 --> 01:32:44.000
And what I think is gonna happen is that we're gonna have more war awards as we continue this season.
01:32:44.720 --> 01:33:09.680
At the end of the day, my best estimation is that the organization made a call and they said we need to be more physically responsible, and we do not want to be up against this luxury, this um, this uh this tax apron, this second tax apron, because it's too punitive for us to do anything with, and we need to retool on the fly.
01:33:10.079 --> 01:33:29.520
Now, when you start to sell us that you're saving money and flexibility with Paul George when they make basically the same amount of money, and Paul George is 36 years old, and Jalen Brown just turned 30 and doesn't have nearly the injury history that Paul George has.
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I call cap like Jalen Brown calls cap.
01:33:34.640 --> 01:33:38.079
So, that is our podcast for today.
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So, I want to thank everybody for listening.
01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:42.720
Thank you so much.
01:33:42.960 --> 01:33:44.319
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01:33:44.560 --> 01:33:48.720
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01:33:54.159 --> 01:34:00.560
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01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:07.600
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01:34:08.079 --> 01:34:12.159
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01:34:13.039 --> 01:34:13.600
Alright.
01:34:13.840 --> 01:34:16.159
Also, we are on the Tiki Talks.
01:34:16.399 --> 01:34:20.560
Yep, I called it Tiki Talks because I'm old and that's what I like to call it.
01:34:20.720 --> 01:34:24.319
And we are FRPC events on that.
01:34:24.560 --> 01:34:25.439
You know what I'm saying?
01:34:25.600 --> 01:34:26.319
Find us there.
01:34:26.399 --> 01:34:31.600
We got a lot of uh stuff up, uh, a lot of entertaining stuff up there for you as well.
01:34:31.840 --> 01:34:33.520
And we are also on YouTube.
01:34:33.840 --> 01:34:37.199
We got shorts there, we got the podcast there.
01:34:37.520 --> 01:34:38.399
Go get it.
01:34:38.560 --> 01:34:40.800
Um, it is there for consumption.
01:34:41.119 --> 01:34:43.840
We appreciate your listenership.
01:34:44.079 --> 01:34:48.079
We appreciate who you are and growing our product.
01:34:48.239 --> 01:34:49.520
We love you for that.
01:34:49.680 --> 01:34:50.800
Thank you so much.
01:34:51.119 --> 01:35:02.479
Now, before I get out of here, the best part of you is still you, not your win-loss record, not your timeline, or your algorithm, or your manicured IG account.
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Just you.
01:35:03.600 --> 01:35:13.520
Surround yourself with people who actually give you light, the ones who bring you insight, the joy, and the real accountability that you need to hear.
01:35:13.680 --> 01:35:15.359
That's your max deal.
01:35:15.600 --> 01:35:19.439
Appreciate those people out loud and do not hesitate.
01:35:19.680 --> 01:35:20.960
Do not wait till later.
01:35:21.039 --> 01:35:22.960
That is not promised to you.
01:35:23.520 --> 01:35:26.319
We're your hoop family here at FRPC.
01:35:26.399 --> 01:35:27.760
We're going to get loud.
01:35:27.920 --> 01:35:30.079
We're going to be wrong sometimes.
01:35:30.399 --> 01:35:32.640
And we're going to come back and own it.
01:35:32.880 --> 01:35:35.600
Because we always will respect your brain.
01:35:35.840 --> 01:35:38.720
Because no because anybody can yell a take.
01:35:38.960 --> 01:35:41.199
Very few can actually defend a thought.
01:35:41.439 --> 01:35:47.199
Until the next episode, keep your mind sharp, your heart open, and your circle tight.
01:35:47.520 --> 01:35:52.079
And protect your peace like cap space, like the Celtics have.
01:35:52.239 --> 01:35:56.079
And never waste it on bad basketball or bad energy.
01:35:56.319 --> 01:35:57.520
I'm Vince, your host.
01:35:57.760 --> 01:35:58.399
We are out.
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See ya.