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Speaker 3: Today live from Heinmarsh Square. It's five double A Breakfast. David Penburbe and Will Goodings not.
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Speaker 2: After Seex Good morning, tell you and welcome to Wednesday on five Double A Breakfast, Day three of the Undy Drive. Who knows what's in store this morning? I can tell you a couple of the news items that are things that we will be talking about. Sean fused to put it best this morning, it's possibly and in fact likely the case that a serial killer has never been let out on parole. Well, congratulations South Australia. We may have a first James Philosakas a parole application was upheld, was accepted yesterday and there is sixty days for the government to appeal. We'll be chatting with the Attorney General trying to get a sense of whether that is on the agenda or not after seven o'clock today. So that's a big story. Seawan Fusta will join us too. We'll go around the courts with Sean David Kosh on the show Travis Boke, where does he fit in the old time on the totem pole of Port Adelaide. Greatness, he's pretty close to the top. Announced his retirement yesterday. We'll talk to Koshi about about Boky sailing off into the sunset, and then a little bit later in the morning, I can tell you some feverish work, David Penberthy has been done behind the scenes to put together your band with the Essay Police Band, which of course you're the frontman. Graham Corns is the lead guitarist. You've got a police band behind you with the bulk there. But and we want you to continue with your suggestions, folks, eight double two three double double O Texas on zero zero eight thirty ninety five. We continue to get listeners' ideas that come in and each seems better than the last. And I know a lot of work has been done to try and make some of that possible. So keep your suggestions coming through because you just never know who might get in the band. David, good morning to you, Good.
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Speaker 4: Morning Will, Good morning listeners. There's no front man in this band. This band is an ensemble. It's saying who's the lead singer of the Beatles. You know, there's no there's no there was no lead singer. There's gonna be a whole bunch of George. It wasn't him, well it was, it wasn't George. George could sing George. Yeah, they even gave Ringo the odd opportunity such hits as Octopus's Garden. But yeah, no, some really really exciting news about the band today. Someone who well, my, I've heard rumors, unlet's you.
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Speaker 2: I'll leave it at that.
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Speaker 4: I've heard rumors that someone who, unlike me, is possessed of genuine musical talent might be getting involved. Now the more the merrier, Yes, I say, yeah. And I don't know if I've had confirmation yet about Grant Stevens being involved.
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Speaker 2: What is he got cold feet? Well, cold said?
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Speaker 4: He said he's played the Triangle before. Uh, hopefully, hopefully that is an indication.
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Speaker 2: I think that's it. That's like when you know you mate to looking for someone to fill in on a social sports team and they say, and you go, ah, I played a bit in the past. That's yeah, you want to play.
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Speaker 4: At that point, find out they played two eighty games. Yeah, that's a sign that you wanted you want in. He's a training yellow veteran he is, that's for sure a triangulist. You've suffered a fair bit already.
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Speaker 2: Well more on the way, if we get more. I'm not sure how much we need or where we're at, but we're a few thousand away from I don't know what am I doing, So starting in the basement, dressing up like a fireman, scaling to the roof of the building here, and then then I'm going up one of those cherry pick of things they've got. How do you go with heights? We're about to find out, aren't we.
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Speaker 4: It's gonna be fun, world's first on air anxiety attack.
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Speaker 2: I might have had may have had a heart attack by the time we get to the top of the building. It might be a full fledged rescue by the time we get to that point.
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Speaker 4: Remember that day, what was it, last year of the year before, when the powers out here weren't working, that's right, And we came in and I came in, you know, as usual, just in the nick of time, only to find that I had had literally run up.
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Speaker 2: Five flights of stairs. It's not dumb.
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Speaker 4: Its kicking the morning off of a live read at six oh five a m. Having done more Cardio and the previous seven minutes than I'd done in the previous seven months.
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Speaker 2: But this was Sarka's business.
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Speaker 4: My god, I just the more I think about it, and to your point, where we are a state of first you know within Australia, female suffrage, yes, a homosexual law reform, native title ol Fresco dining and letting out people who've taken part in gang murders and left them for dead in barrels full of acid. When you actually think about it, it is actually think it's intellectually preposterous to be having a conversation about whether this is the right or the wrong thing to do.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's about you praise it like that because when we spoke to Jeremy Pudney, yes the day, one of the initial reporters he's written a book about, I said to him, I know, intellectually you knew this day might come, but it feels surreal trying to play on the fact that as a court reporter he knows enough about the process to know this was a possibility, but as a human being does it just feel fundamentally wrong? And I think what the feels completely wrong?
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Speaker 4: The law needs a phrase in Latin which translates as your e F and kidden. Aren't you where the moment someone says and look, we're just going through a list of people who might be coming up for parole.
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Speaker 2: James vosakas one of the Snowtown killers.
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Speaker 4: At that point, everyone in the law goes nully, QUI vongolais w TF, however you say that in Latin? What idiots proposing this? That maybe that should be the Latin phrase idiota proponum estum, that would be something is que idiota proponam es? What idiots proposing this? That's the Latin phrase were after? Because I just think it's absurd. And you know the other thing, I received an email years ago and I lost it and excuse me, I got a bit of a cold, and to this day I wish i'd replied to the person and the email address that I had no longer works. But it was from a young woman who's now probably an older woman like me, older man. It is, haven't transitioned overnight, folks uster should. But anyway, she told me this story. She worked with one of the Satowan victims that Harris scarves in the basement, and she just said, I just because I've written a.
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Speaker 2: Piece about the Snowtown Man.
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Speaker 4: I've interviewed the director, Jason Kurtzel, and she said, I'm not really getting in contact with you for any other reason than to say he just struck me as a really nice person. And we worked together in like the it was the camping area downstairs with rucksacks and bags, and she worked with him part time, and she said he was pretty quiet, but he was kind of funny when and get to know him in a nice way. He had a good sense of humor. He was applying himself really hard at his job, and then he just sort of vanished, and I thought, I wonder whatever happened to him? And then I was reading the paper and I went, Wow, he's one of the people that the Snowtown killers got. And I just thought, these people have become ciphers or faceless. Nothing's the victims. They're just they're in the battle.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're totally irrelevant, aren't they them.
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Speaker 4: Have dismissed his total weirdos as cross dresser. There's someone who's the step brother of the step mum of the.
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Speaker 2: Whoever.
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Speaker 4: People being killed by their own half brothers or whatever. It's almost like this world is so distant that it's been dehumanized. And that email about this boy in Harris scarves with his job, I thought, well, that's actually that the first time I've actually thought of one of these people as a human being. And that's what this whole parole process is an insult to you completely. You know all about Jamie.
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Speaker 2: It also and we'll take a break in a moment, get this some news headlines. I'm going to think about it every single time. We try to valiantly and our listeners valiantly push back against a system that sees the vast majority of petty crime happen committed by people who have previously committed the crime, sometimes as recently as a week ago. And I'm going to forever think why argue against that in the jurisdiction that allows serial killers out?
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Speaker 4: Like, how are you thinking about the woman who drank the entire cask of wine last week? You drave into the cops and didn't do any jail time. Yep, Yeah, like I saved that stud.
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Speaker 2: I kind of feel like, now, why argue about that? Because we are in the place where serial killers get a second chance? Yeah, Like, what chance do we have of making mounting an argument that this is which we have done for I feel like it's official defeat. This is the goal that has Rex Hunt and the Fat Lady singing the argument that we should we should be so kind on these people committing Betty crime. We're letting out a serial killer. Yeah, that's how we do That's how we do crime here in South Australia. It's amazing, It's ridiculous. Seventeen after seven news headlines David.
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Speaker 5: Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Twenty one minutes after six looking for members of David's police band. He's in it. We think the police commissions in it. Graham Korn's is the lead guitarist in it. David Alberton, He's on the line, Dave. Who else should be in the band?
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Speaker 6: Well, good morning guys. You familiar with the Saturday Night Lives group, the team in the US there familiar? Probably familiar with the Will Ferrell skip where Christopher Walken has a desire for more cow bell that skip. Well, we've got one problem solver here in the state who manages to identify a problem and fix a problem. Premier malanowskas we need more cow bell.
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Speaker 2: Get the premier on the care. I like that.
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Speaker 4: Oh yes, the Bruce Dickinson Blue Oysters, don't the Reaper.
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Speaker 7: Reaper.
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Speaker 2: That is a great. That is a brilliant idea. Dave kept coming into zero eight thirteen ninety five. He continue to get texts from people with with suggestions as well. Some of them some of them I think won't be able to happen. Some would be. FITZI got a nomination from from a listener. Finzi could get Stephen Rowe.
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Speaker 4: Nomination of the Musical Talent given the part time radio broadcast, a full time football legend, but also part time impresario as the operator of Nice Day to Go to the Club. Yes, get all sorts of musics lined up.
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Speaker 2: The premier we just heard from Dave. I love this one that that's just come through. The sixophonist who plays at Crow's games. Oh that is a great. How goods that has an idea outside the box idea. Don't know what his availability is. No game on Friday morning. You know the Crows haven't lost since undefeat as he played.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good oman A long game, big well because it was a gather round game and the AFL controlled it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you to Danny L. Scott, who's donated two one hundred three hundred dollars in fact cracking stut the morning five double any Drive dot com dot au is the place to go. We're doing it all of course for Catherine House and Haut Street Sander and we went and paid them a visit just last week and got to meet some of the wonderful people that make these organizations tick, like Terrese who is a caseworker at Catherine House. The UNDI Drive is all about raising as much money as we possibly can for a wonderful charity like Catherine House, but one of the things we like to do over the course of the week is meet the people that provide the service, and one of those who's with us right now is to raise There's good morning to you, good morning, How are you going well? What drew you to Catherine House? And when? How how long have you been involved?
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Speaker 8: I've been here not quite telve months. So I previously worked at different homelessness services within the alliances and be moved around and just love working in the industry, love helping people out and love providing service.
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Speaker 2: How is Catherine House different from those other places you've worked before.
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Speaker 8: I suppose it's probably the first time I've worked in a residential typesetting. I work in the crisis, the emergency accommodation service. Here, we see a lot of women come in that you know, have nowhere.
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Speaker 2: Else to go.
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Speaker 8: This is their home, this is we try and provide them, you know, a dignified service, Try and show respect to these women, you know where they're all going through a really difficult time.
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Speaker 2: What do you reckon the biggest misconception is that people externally would have about the kind of women that present to a charity like Catherine House.
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Speaker 8: Obviously, you know, everyone has that idea that you know, the homeless people, what the homeless people look like, and you know, we all have to be honest that we're all only a couple of pays away from being homeless at the moment. With the housing crisis that's been going on, things have changed. The homelessness sector has changed completely, and you know, anyone could be homeless at any time.
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Speaker 2: It's a good point. It must be remarkable rewarding to take someone from that point of being a total desperation and then housing them for a period and then potentially seeing them move on.
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Speaker 9: It is, but I don't think.
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Speaker 8: I think it's more rewarding to see them and the joy for them that they've made it through to that point. I mean, obviously we're just you know, providing the service. It's up to the people. It's up to the person the women that we work with to actually get themselves there. I think we're just providing those steps, and the women that are here they want that. I mean, we all want to live a dignified, loyal life, and I think that we should be trying to provide that to them.
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Speaker 2: You do, and you do a wonderful job. Grace. Thanks for joining us on five double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 8: Thanks so much.
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Speaker 2: I love those visits. You're gonna hear more from them. I mean, we're in the kitchen at hut Street Center. We're meeting people that work out the front at Catherine House, people that work behind the scenes there. We met clients people that can't don't want to be identified because of the sensitivity of their personal situation, but they wanted to still somehow find a way to talk about what these organizations meant for them life. Yeah, so you're gonna hear more about that over the course of the next three days of the UNDI drivers. We build up the Friday because we want your donations. Thank you to Lee who's just chipped in one hundred bucks five double any drive dot com dot Are you what we do need, David, he's some big corporates to come on board. Yeah, we're still we're still waiting for san Jeeva to call. We've promised that the slate is clean.
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Speaker 4: I mean, it seems like the least you can do, san Jeeve, if you're listening, given that the state and federal government's combined have contributed two point three billion.
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Speaker 2: Dollars kicking five grandy under drive.
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Speaker 4: I mean we're not saying you need to match that, Ahount. No, imagine if you did, that would really that would change the game for Catherine House in Hudson, that would probably fix the homelessness crisis. Was the sad thing is you probably can't. You can't fix it with money. I don't think no, because so many of the drivers of it, as we know from particularly the case of Catherine House, just shocking behavior. I'm a part of portrayers clearly the film referring to their yes male for portrayers are violence. But yes, and just even if you gave us ten percent of that amount.
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Speaker 2: We all would be forgotten, all forgiven Team Sanjeev. We'd become.
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Speaker 4: What I used to do well were branded GfG clothing on air.
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Speaker 2: Will be five double GfG ten degrees outside of the city at the moment top of fifteen today, one to six mills of rain on the way, so it might be a little bit wet out there Tomorrow fifteen and dry cool, but dry so too for Friday, exactly the same forecast really Saturday, sixteen, Sunday nineteen, warming up for what should be a pleasant weekend, twenty on Monday and sixteen on Tuesday. Oh my goodness, what's that big here? Tom reds to the studio and he's he's got a wig on.
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Speaker 10: Well, I've always wanted a bit of hair, to be honestly, to not have to take the hair pills.
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Speaker 2: But go, good hair, haven't you talk?
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Speaker 10: It's okay, it's thinning, really.
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Speaker 2: Get you you with the Dolly partner and gives you a sort of eighties rocker vibe. Is a bit early John Farnam about that.
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Speaker 9: Yes, well, speaking of which I think I'm going to be playing in the band.
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Speaker 11: Yes, I think, yeah, that is awesome, But.
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Speaker 2: Can you see.
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Speaker 10: Well, we've done karaoke before, I think, haven't we?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys have, I swear I've seen that. Yeah, we did. Maybe it was the time we went and Will was there, but then the power out that was early I reagon Will unplugged it.
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Speaker 11: I think I think we.
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Speaker 10: Did that song, What's the Hill? It's the one running up the hill, Kate Bush, cap Bush, the other one that cap Bush, Wondering Heights, Wathering Windy Moore.
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Speaker 2: We did do that. You had a temper like jealous ready Now nothing happened to the only drip for free. We're clear about this. If you aren't ready to be in the band, and you do have musical talent, Tom wren Well, I can play the trumpet potentially, and you can sing eight double two to three double oh for more suggestions. But anyone you suggest you need to donate to get it to happen. So let's get some donations coming in before six thirty to confirm that t Ran will be in the Police Band come Friday morning, wearing that wig.
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Speaker 10: You did such a great job yesterday, Will that we're going to keep it going. We're going to ride that momentum through so we're going to do it and keep it going for Friday with the band. But let's talk a little bit of football for a moment. Travis Boke, what a career, three hundred and eighty four games. Hopefully he'll get another three. He spoke about what he's going to miss the most once he hangs up the boots officially, let's have a bit of a listen to what he had to say with regards to all of that.
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Speaker 12: I think the memories that you create through the hard times the good times, coming in the rooms after the wins and losses and sharing those moments with your teammates, they create the bonds and the friendships that you'll treasure forever.
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Speaker 10: Seventh on the all time list, three hundred and eighty seven games.
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Speaker 11: Great career.
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Speaker 10: I mean he missed out clearly on the premiership at a time when the club was on its knees.
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Speaker 11: I remember vividly. You know, he was courted by Geelong, you know, to go back. I stuck with them.
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Speaker 2: This is going to sound overly romantic and perhaps stupid of a lot of footy fans. He didn't get the premiership, but I think his contribution to the club is actually greater than what Ariship in isolation would have been him at that moment. Choosing to stay that felt like an existential crisis.
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Speaker 11: It was huge, wasn't it.
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Speaker 4: So he was captain straight up to CASSISI yeah, I think that's right.
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Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah.
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Speaker 11: And that was when they had the tarts and you know it was writing.
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Speaker 2: There were columns in the paper about they're gonna have to move.
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Speaker 4: It was when they got done by g w S second win.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, it was almost the beginning of the end.
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Speaker 2: He'd been the guy going I'm the one. I might be the one commodity that anyone wants to this club, and I've got strong pool to go in, but I'm going to stay. Him committing that's that's a that's a that's a contribution to that footy club that I reckon is greater than a premiership.
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Speaker 4: He should be remembered too for all the amazing charity work that he did for cancer kids with can.
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Speaker 2: He said he lost his own father really young.
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Speaker 11: He did just before he was drafted. He'd lost him.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, so he can And so that was one of the other reasons, you know that he was being sort of pulled to come home, but he stayed so port fans will have two opportunities to seehimt Adelaide Oval and play a final game if you like this week and then against Gold Coast in the final week.
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Speaker 11: Big Week of or Big Day of Football.
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Speaker 10: Simon Goodwin our early contenders, Nathan Buckley and perhaps John long Wire are the early contenders to be the Melbourne coach for next season.
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Speaker 2: Glad Doors heading Strength, Style and Safety. Do a home gliderol dot com today. Yes, it feels like three am at the s years ago. I might get another Bacardi Breezer. Big Fleets.
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Speaker 5: David Penberthy and Will Goodis five double A breaks twenty.
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Speaker 4: Well, yesterday morning we caught up with the Energy Minister Tom Keotstanis about the predicament near Star.
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Speaker 2: The smelter in Port Piri.
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Speaker 4: It sounds for months that it's been living on borrow time, largely on account of the nefarious practices by China in global economic markets when it comes to these sorts of commodities. Tim Ayres, who's the Federal Minister for Industry and Innovation, he was in Port Piriri yesterday with the Premier and the Energy Minister to unveil a joint package between South Australia and the Commonwealth and also Tasmania which is affected by this as well. And we have the Minister on the line now, Good morning, mister Ayres, thanks for joining us. Can you walk us through what the what the intent of this package is, what's going to change because it's a lot of money, isn't it.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, it is, Kay Fellow's good to be on the show. It's a one hundred and thirty five million dollar package, so it's a substantial contribution to the beginning of what is a two year feasibility phase for Port Pieri and for the Hobart Newstar smelter, and that's designed to do two things. One is to make a bunch of improvements to the facility to make it more efficient, more capable. But secondly and most importantly for the future of that site and for Australia's national interest to build their capability to turn critical minerals that are a byproduct of the lead smelter process into critical metals, moving up the value chain for Australia and contributing to vital international supply chains, particularly in the defense sector, but also in computer chips, battery storage, new technologies. These critical minerals, Australia has them in large volumes. Our objective is part of Future Made in Australia, is to make sure we're manufacturing those minerals here and turning them into high value products.
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Speaker 2: So, I mean, it's just looking at some of the language being used in this feasibility study. Is a pilot plant that's been talked about. There's obviously some a huge amount of risk with regard to spending this much money when we don't even know whether they can they can produce this at scale and commercially. Isn't that.
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Speaker 13: I just make say two things about that. Firstly, I was there yesterday when they were making antimony on site. Their plan is to get to make five thousand tons a year of antimony. It's a byproduct of the lead manufacturing process or lead smelting process. It's vital for the defense industry. Their plan is then to step that up to fifteen thousand tons per year. That would be forty percent of the United States's total consumption of antimity. So it's a you know, it's consumed in very small quantities. Just to give you a sense of the scale of this, that is, just moving to that level of production would make a very substantial contribution. So that's good for the economics of that facility, good for South Australia, but good for our economic resilience and strategic interest. Second thing I'd say about the risk question is, you know, you could take the no risk approach and the facility may well close. But we're fighting for the future here jointly in lockstep with the Malinowskis government, working with the firm who are stepping up to the plate as well. They will continue to sustain some losses over this period. If the markets stay in the same shape that they are, they will make investments as well. So the business, the two levels of government, the Albaneze government, the Malanowskis government, the workers and the unions and the local community or committed to this all pitching in the alternative is we just let these things run through our fingers, and I'm not prepared to do that. Anthony Alberdez is not prepared to do that, and Peeder mal Aanaskis isn't prepared to do it either.
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Speaker 4: Isn't there rislo that it becomes a car industry situation where we end up just throwing when I was certainly not trying to sound ungrateful here, but there are precedents where industries that can't stand on their own two feet in the private sector, we just end up throwing public money at them. Do you think that there could be more money required down the track.
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Speaker 13: Well, I'm old fashioned enough to believe that it was a terrible thing that the Abbot government allowed the car industry to go offshore. We lost an incredible amount of industrial capability, economic resilience, skills, management capability that were absolutely vital for the rest of Australian manufacturing. I suppose that's spilt milk now, but I really do Bristol people say, oh, well that was that was that was inevitable. It wasn't inevitable in terms of this sector. Well, they are not selling into a into a normal market. It is not a level playing field.
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Speaker 2: Okay, well on that part and with China.
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Speaker 13: It's got it's got strategic value for Australia.
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Speaker 2: What are we doing? What are we doing? And what are we doing?
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Speaker 4: And with the mckill report made of playing that China is the chief cause of the problem here do you you sit with a guy on cabinet?
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Speaker 2: Did Albou raise this with Ji Jinping three weeks ago?
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Speaker 4: Or is the taxpayer the solution to Chinese belligerents on the world economic stage?
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Speaker 13: Well, every every lever at our disposal that that is of course these issues are raised directly, not just bilaterally with with the government of China. But you know, I've participated in global steel supply chain efforts to make sure that there is you know that the pressure is on for more transparency, for normal trade rules to apply. Uh And the truth is in and the truth is that there is there are very significant subsidies and non market practices in China, but they are also that they are not the only economy around the world that is engaging in that behavior. So diplomacy and effort abroad, but here in Australia we have to attend to building the competitiveness of our sectors, and in my view and the Government's view, where there is a strategic interest engaged to you, we need to step up the plate to work with the private sector, work with workers and their unions to deliver a better outcome that the long term, absent those non market practices, Port Pierri and Hobart would be profitable today. That's that's the truth of it. Now. Now there is a good medium term future for that business. We've committed to working with them to make sure that we can back that investment in critical minerals processing capability, but also improving the productivity of their broader operation. I think it's a good thing for the Port Pirie community, it's good for South Australia, but it's really important for Australia's economic resilience in our national industrial capability.
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Speaker 4: Jim Ayer is the Federal Minister for Industry and Innovation. Could you also pass a message onto Murray Watt for us the Environment Minister, that our algill boym is still going. It's still going really badly and it is still in our view a natural disaster and should be declared as such.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for your time, Minister.
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Speaker 13: Thanks Fellers.
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Speaker 4: Not thought worth mentioning. Yeah, Rosanna Manngerelli's written a great column Stavery Lines in the ties of This Morning, and here I was thinking, you know, she's a great singer, Well this is it, but as a column writer, tell you what, she's much better than Dolly Parton ever.
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Speaker 2: Was a big special we've got on seven tonight, actually after the news, we're doing a thirty minute special on the alko bloom crisis that's going to be made here in South Australia, which is going to be powered by listeners. It's going to have viewers. It's going to be a bit like what we do here on radio. There's going to be people on site at surf clubs. There's going to be people who set in social media questions as well. And I've had a look at some of the stuff that's going to be on tonight and it's great because I think it's it goes to some of the non political elements of this. There's a we have to live with this element of this that I think we've kind of explored, but not in the way that we're going to tonight. So this isn't about the recriminations of who did what, and when this is about what if you live near the beach and your child has asthma? What about when your pets get sick? What does it mean for catching fish as a recfisher as opposed to being a commercial Like there's some of these just we have to live with this now, stuff that's not political that we're going get into in the special tonight. So I think it's immediately after set the Channel seven News at six o'clock, six at seven o'clock it'll be on a half hour special where I like to think a lot of those questions about well, unfortunately this is our reality are going to be answered. The Premier is going to be on the panel. We going environmental scientists. We've got doctor Nicholas Buria as well. So it's going to be I think, really really interesting, sounds terrific. All right, thirteen to seven that's tonight, a little bit later this morning, as so long as the donations continue to come in they have thus far, I'm disappearing not up the chimney, but up the what the the firoroscopey, you know, I'm disappearing up the staircase here at five double A, dressed entirely as a fireman with the mfs, all the gear on oxygen canisters, you name it, ways about twenty kilos. Sounds great.
00:30:52
Speaker 4: I've had a look at that gear, and yeah, I think I think sportsman should keep oh good goodness, a good hour or are you tomorrow?
00:31:00
Speaker 2: For you? They should donate thousands, and I was the only drugs. They'll get it back.
00:31:03
Speaker 4: Well, we need we need more donations because we have not yet reached our mark for will to become a fireman. So any businesses, any corporates, if you call in and donate, you get the biggest shout in history.
00:31:15
Speaker 2: I just looked at the rundown though, and it says will steps out at eight fifteen. So at eight fifteen this morning, I disappear to do this, which I don't know what the situation that leaves you in. You've never paneled before, have you?
00:31:26
Speaker 4: No, I don't know how any of the buttons work.
00:31:29
Speaker 2: Well, you can't sit here and talk to yourself, can I just assumably there's been some meeting about this, not one that I've been involved with. Well, let's have it now, John A, you're the mastermind of the UNDI drive. Come in, please, let's find out when the next happening. What's going on? Because I don't know how to I do not know how to panel, as they say, no herb to panel in radio means to control the big mixing desks. So there looking like you know Brian Wilson in the Love and Mercy video. John, Oh, good morning, only more confused.
00:31:55
Speaker 11: Good morning.
00:31:56
Speaker 14: Congratulations on everything you've done so far. We need donations, that's about you're doing it. Look, this is a problem. Pat and I have conferred. We've spoken to the big boss and we're going to do what every media organization does when they have a crisis and call the Goodings family. Now, two of them already work here, so that's a bit.
00:32:20
Speaker 2: Doesn't really work. Yeah, we got forty percent of them in the building. What's your mum up to this morning? Well she's not an early risers, so good luck with that. Oh I love this lady Eve Goodings. Well, Well, you know did host a show on five double a meny many many many years ago.
00:32:38
Speaker 4: And doesn't she still do community radio up in the hills or something.
00:32:42
Speaker 2: She did for a long time. Yeah, so she hasn't done it recently, might be a bit rusty.
00:32:46
Speaker 14: All right, Well, we're going to put the phone call in now, try to make it happen before we go.
00:32:49
Speaker 11: To the break.
00:32:50
Speaker 14: But put on your most sympathetic We're going to need donations to make it happen. She won't get out of bed for nothing.
00:32:55
Speaker 4: Let's get Will's mum to host the show with me for the final hour of the program today.
00:33:00
Speaker 2: Every development these things get worse for me.
00:33:03
Speaker 4: Is the way I say, I love the idea of having wolves Mum on the show so that I can get the get the full story about wives adolescence thousand was the most trouble he ever got into.
00:33:13
Speaker 2: Cause your find how lame I really am?
00:33:15
Speaker 4: What was the drunkest he ever was?
00:33:19
Speaker 14: If you donate now, you could win a Smeg appliance as well.
00:33:22
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right, every every, every single donation twenty dollars and we'll puts you in the running. Win a Smeg cattle that we in fact a toaster sorry thanks to Smeg, that we're giving away at seven o'clock today. Oh boy, I don't envy johnn I for making that call this hour of the morning. Let's check traffic. Enjoy your outdoor area all year around with an enclosing roof design. Matter of factur have been stalled locally by Loubause, David.
00:33:43
Speaker 5: Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast.
00:33:46
Speaker 2: Things are happening behind the scenes. We're getting calls from all sorts of sectors in South Australia that want to contribute to the five to blaw Undy Drive. Get it early, because when when when all the donations come late and we're trying to spread the love around, there's just smaller pieces of the pie. That's the nature of it. Actually get donating today. If you're a business and you get a whole lot of love for your donation, the earlier you get in, the more plugs you get.
00:34:10
Speaker 4: And if you donate, you know, one thousand dollars at six oh five am, we might talk about you for half an hour exactly right, And if that was a live read, it cost you a million dollars.
00:34:21
Speaker 2: Dot com dot you have about that inflation. Let's talk about the weather. Daniel Sherwin Simpson on Juty at the Weather Bureau. Daniel, good morning to you. Another mile day on the way, Yeah.
00:34:30
Speaker 15: Another mile day. There's a couple of showers about that you can see coming up from the Spencer Gulf on the radar so it's going to be a little bit wet through the morning that things are going to settle out. Once these shells clear, probably in the late morning, we should see it clear out and should be mostly dry from the afternoon onwards on. From a maximum of fifteen today and then it's a bit of a repeat over the next couple of days. We've got a fifteen, fifteen and sixteen for Thursday, Friday and Saturday, warming up for the weekend. On Sunday we've got nineteen and then twenty possibly on Monday. Well settle conditions and then near warming up ahead of a week cold front coming through early next week.
00:35:07
Speaker 2: It's gonna be lovely weather on Sunday. Sounds terrific. Go on you, Daniel, thank you all right, let's say to say I'll seeing Constable Kimberly broads on the line. Kimberly. A man's been arrested after a pursuit that ended up Port Adelaide just after midnight.
00:35:18
Speaker 16: Yeah, that's right. Police attempted to stop a Holden station wagon. It was on Nelson Avenue at Flinders Park, but the driver refused to pull over, so we followed the vehicle through backstreets into findon out onto Port Road. These vehicles tires were eventually spiked on Grand Junction Road as it was heading towards the Port Adelaide and it came to a stop on Commercial Road where the driver was arrested. So a forty three year old man from Smithfield Planes. He's been charged with engaging in a police pursuit and unrelated death matters. His vehicle's been impounded and he'll be appearing in the Port Adelaid Magistrates Court in September.
00:35:56
Speaker 4: Kimberly also police investigating a crash at Vale Park to midnight.
00:36:01
Speaker 15: Yeah.
00:36:01
Speaker 16: This occurred on Ascott Avenue. Police arrived quickly, locating a Mercedes Sedan along with its driver and passenger who were out of the car and thankfully were uninjured. They did take out a light pole which fell across the road, causing some traffic disruptions as well. But the driver was a thirty three year old man from Valley View. He allegedly returned a positive result had when he had an initial roadside alcohol test, but he was conveyed hospital where that further mandatory blood sample will be taken for drug and alcohol testing. So investigations into the crash are ongoing. We're just asking if anybody witnessed it or they have any further information, if they can give us a call on the crimes top is number one eight hundred trip or three triples zero.
00:36:50
Speaker 4: Thanks for that, Kimberly Sen. You comes to Kimblely Broad from Stapole.
00:36:53
Speaker 2: Well, a miracle of all miracles. My mother's awake, as it turns out, Mum, good morning to you.
00:37:00
Speaker 17: I'm only just awake, Thank you very much.
00:37:02
Speaker 18: Real good in.
00:37:03
Speaker 2: I told him there'd be no chance of you up at this hour of the morning unless you haven't gone to bed yet.
00:37:08
Speaker 17: Well, those days I have gone a few years ago. Will you know that mother doesn't do those things anymore? So why are you ringing me?
00:37:17
Speaker 9: Honey?
00:37:19
Speaker 2: Well, we need you to be in about two hours time because I'm potentially going to die in a stunt for the under Drive and we need someone to host the show.
00:37:30
Speaker 17: Okay, so let's just go back to you're going to die. So is this a stupid idea of you being at a fireman?
00:37:38
Speaker 11: Yes?
00:37:39
Speaker 4: Yes, stupid is well put you can have a front row seat for a day.
00:37:43
Speaker 17: Well, I'd like to talk to the gentleman who came up with.
00:37:47
Speaker 2: This idea, Jonathan Edwards, you can spend a bit of time chatting with you.
00:37:50
Speaker 17: Well, John is going to have a conversation with your mother. So your back is not good and I didn't like it. And that's photo of you in that that didn't look too bad.
00:37:59
Speaker 2: Actually I thought that was I thought that looked pretty good as well on the old social.
00:38:06
Speaker 17: Media you want, honey, what what am I doing?
00:38:09
Speaker 2: You're gonna sit here and chat with David after eight o'clock because I need to go and get my fireman outfit on. You're going to host the show Eve, Oh pen.
00:38:17
Speaker 17: I've been dying to do that with you.
00:38:22
Speaker 4: Believe I've been looking forward to doing it with you because you've got a bit of radio background to you.
00:38:28
Speaker 17: Oh wow, this is good alright.
00:38:32
Speaker 4: I have a few questions for you too about Wil's adolescence. I want to hear a bit about it.
00:38:38
Speaker 17: He was a good kid, now if there hadn't been the other one.
00:38:43
Speaker 4: I sat next to Sam, the other one at the foot of the other night.
00:38:46
Speaker 9: Is he not?
00:38:47
Speaker 18: That kid? Is just so cool?
00:38:49
Speaker 17: He's a lovely boy.
00:38:50
Speaker 2: Has to stick from who the cool one? Thanks Mum? Not old Nordling here.
00:39:00
Speaker 17: I know Sammy has always been a.
00:39:04
Speaker 13: Right.
00:39:05
Speaker 4: We're out of time through the whole family for this, this edition of Sassination. It's gonna be great fun, all right.
00:39:10
Speaker 2: Come in, it will be fun.
00:39:11
Speaker 17: But you surely need another bloody Oh oh I swore then, Oh, I'm so sorry another Goodings on air. Oh my goodness, that's what happens when you wake up an old woman.
00:39:21
Speaker 2: All right, we'll see here after. It is good. This is exciting. How did these things keep getting worse for me? I'm not sure. Anyway, that's coming up after eight o'clock today, we're going to take a break five double A news is covering up. We're going a very excited development. Sometimes some things happen in the under drive that are beyond our control because people get on board that we didn't see coming. We're going to talk about one such instance right after this David.
00:39:46
Speaker 5: Penberthy and Will Goodings five double A breakfast.
00:39:50
Speaker 2: But it's after see theven Honey drive is kicking into gear this morning. We had a raffle on the first hour. Everyone a donate twenty dollars or more was in the running to win a Smeg toaster. We're giving that to Robert who donated fifty dollars just a short time ago, but big thanks to Robert and Christopher and Danny l and Hugh and Chris and so many more that I can't get to that have donated money above that twenty dollars threshold. What we're doing to keep that momentum going. And we like to democratize the undie drive. It's not just about the big businesses that kick in thousands of dollars, like the Guardsmen and the Sky City and like McGahan and others. We love these raffles. And so we've got another one this hour tickets for you and three friends to get along and see port Frio in the five double a locker room. Oh wow, now these tickets are worse. That's this Saturday night. That's right, Saturday and Saturday night at the locker.
00:40:38
Speaker 4: It's going to be awesome weather. That'd be so much fun.
00:40:40
Speaker 2: Gets your reserve sitting in the Riverbank stand level one, pregame dinner and we'll bake you be playing halftime about yeah, halftime, Baufer's Footy Fair and mini desserts and a five hour drinks package if you don't mind. All you need to do is make a donation above ten bucks this hour and you go in the running. That's locker room tickets are hundreds and hundreds of dollars. Yeah, this is a huge prize. That is a massive prize. There's no better way to see the footy.
00:41:04
Speaker 4: The other thing that we will throw in two folks as part of this prize package, and we all know that Will in about an hour's time is going to be making his debut as a MFS firefighter. Well, I've taken the liberty of preparing a Will Woodings themed firefighters calendar.
00:41:28
Speaker 2: I'll hold it up for the better for the live stream. You spared no expense making that, that's right.
00:41:33
Speaker 4: So what we've done, we've got a picture one of those wonderful beefcake calendars.
00:41:38
Speaker 2: I don't know how he convinced me to take my shirt off.
00:41:41
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what if you thought Tom Ren looked good without his shirt off on the Today Show, that's what it's like.
00:41:46
Speaker 2: I haven't looked through here. Yeah, here we go. There's one. We'll go look at his hosework.
00:41:52
Speaker 4: Look at his hosework, and gentlemen, let's not be exclusionary here.
00:41:56
Speaker 2: And there's another one there.
00:41:58
Speaker 4: Will holding a giant chainsaw. So that's well, don't just get to go to the port game, you get the official Will Gooding's Finementallan, I'd be.
00:42:06
Speaker 2: Careful you take that. I think if you went to the airport with that, you'd be arrested and rightly so I think that's exactly right. That was somewhat terrifying actually seeing that. Well, thank you come up.
00:42:18
Speaker 4: Well, it's amazing what you can do with a color printer and a u HU gluestick.
00:42:21
Speaker 2: Five double Andi drive dot com dot au is the way to donate. Remember too, you can call John O and Patty if you're a business and you want to talk through how you make the donation and the particulars and make sure you get you your love on air. We can make it happen. That's what it's all about here at the Undie Drive.
00:42:41
Speaker 4: We started the program expressing our complete disbelief at the fact that we're even having this conversation here in South Australia, but front page of the Advertiser faceless and free Bodies in the Barrels killer James los Arcus has been granted parole and maybe the only serial killer in the world to be free to discuss this and what happens from here or what can happen from here? Were joined now by the Attorney General, Kaim Mah Attorney. Great to have you on the show, and you know, we understand that none of this is your doing. It's a case that happened way back in the turn of the century. The story broke in nineteen ninety nine and then obviously the trial continued for a long time after the investigation. But is there anything that the government could or would do about it?
00:43:34
Speaker 19: Yeah, good morning guys, And yeah, just before that, I might say that there's very little that's happened that's had such an effect on South Australia in this case, not just on who were as a state, but how we're seen outside South Australia. But at the end of the day, I guess the most important thing is there are still well to the victims living in our community here in Adelaide and South Australia, and I guess that's what in our consideration be taken into account. But in terms of what can happen here, yeah, there are things that can happen under the Correctional Services Act. Myself as Attorney General, the Police Commissioner or the Commission for Victims' Rights have an ability to lodge a review of the prole decision. Now that review can only change a decision prole Board for good reasons. It can't just be that this was a high profile case and we would prefer that the person not get out, as I think many South Australians would be expressing. But there has to be a good reason to overturn it. So I know that Francis Nelson, the heads of prole Board, who will be well known to no South Australians and I don't think anyone would accuse her of being a soft touch, gave a press conference yesterday. We will look at those reasons when they're formally provided to us, I think sometime later today.
00:44:45
Speaker 2: And consider that I understand a legislation you're allowed to talk about whether you will or won't appeal in any case. But just before we get to that, that's the future. I'm just trying to why is it that we here in South Australia are going to do what no one else has done around the world to this point in Parola a serial killer? What leads to South Australia being the place where this can happen.
00:45:11
Speaker 19: Yeah, Look, I don't say we haven't done research about what's happened in other places right around the world in terms of people who've committed many murders have been released, but are going back, As you said, these events were the last century. I think the sense thing was way back in two thousand and one. One thing that I think is important to remember mister Phosarcas pleaded guilty and gave evidence against others in that case. So for very good reason, we want people to give evidence against those who committed such horrific crimes. And it would have been a terrible thing if the Bunting and Wagner in particular weren't convicted of these crimes. So the Farcus did give against his coed ques way back when the trial happens.
00:45:56
Speaker 4: So does that mean, though, that you'd be happy to have him as your next door neighbor.
00:46:00
Speaker 19: No, not not at all. As I said, I think the overrited consideration, I think needs to be those relatives who are around living in our community. And Francis Nelson talked about yesterday in her press conference, some of the conditions being not contacting any of the victim's relatives but also really importantly exclusion zone places suburbs around Adelaide where he can't go or can't be.
00:46:25
Speaker 2: It doesn't sound as though, based on your previous answer regarding the desire to have people come forward and give evidence and contribute to prosecution cases, that you see that there's any need to change the law that prevent serial killers being allowed out in future. Is that a fair assessment.
00:46:42
Speaker 19: No, No, I wouldn't say that we've changed a law regularly. In fact, when Mark Hayden, who wasn't convicted in any of the murders but was convicted of assisting the offenders in this case, he had his sentence finished. There, when you're on parole for a life sentence like the sarcas, you will be so conditions for the rest of your life if you get out.
00:47:02
Speaker 2: Sure, but it doesn't sound like this particular occurrence has motivated you guys to change anything.
00:47:07
Speaker 19: Well, we changed the law when Hayden was released to make it clear we could have an extended sucvision order to place conditions on him. So when there's been a.
00:47:14
Speaker 20: Need to, we have absolutely not hesitated to change the law.
00:47:19
Speaker 4: Thanks for that, Attorney Attorney General Kaim Mar we've got Sarah Quick, the Commissioner for Victim's Rights, on the line as well. Commissioner, we were saying at the start of the show, how sad it is that the victims of the Snowtown killings, they've almost become incidental, we feel in this whole horrible affair.
00:47:39
Speaker 21: Absolutely, I think it is really important to remember, you know, the people who did lose their lives so brutally, and really keep them at the heart of this story, along with their families who continue to suffer daily.
00:47:54
Speaker 4: Hmmm, because you know, there's so much the point has been made to the point of being labored about the dysfunction that existed within this community or sub community, and I think as a result of that, they've had their dignity taken away.
00:48:12
Speaker 21: Yeah, I'd agree with that to some extent. And you know, it doesn't matter where a victim comes from, what firsteoeconomic background, what level of education, that they're all lives important lives that have lost their loved ones and there are people grieving for them.
00:48:33
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:48:33
Speaker 4: I don't know, I just we really. I think our listeners struggled to come to terms with the fact. I mean, the Attorney General made a good point, a good legal point that will without people like Vosakas, who actually did turn on his co conspirators and dubbed them into the police, and that was the thing that enabled the coppers to stop this, and presumably more people would have died. That's all well and good, but he still did kill four.
00:49:00
Speaker 21: People, absolutely, and for some of the victims it does feel like an injustice that he's released. But certainly I have had a conversation with at least one victim who acknowledges Lasarcas's role in the conviction of Bunting and Wagner, and by his contribution, the victims ultimately did get some form of justice, albeit it not necessarily the outcome that they would desire. That you know, all offenders were in prison for the rest of their lives.
00:49:35
Speaker 4: Sarah Quick, the Commissioner for Victim's Rights, Thanks for joining us. It is just wird to think this bloke. Could you be plumped anywhere in the community, well, with the caveat that presumably not next to a school or something like that. But the school part of it isn't really the issue. It's no next to any other human I think is the how where it becomes challenging.
00:49:55
Speaker 2: It is not an unrealistic scenario to think he's going to bump into someone who is related to a victim of snow Town.
00:50:00
Speaker 4: Care is probably going to People tend to gravitate back to where they're from, So I probably going to go back to the suburbs that he that he lived in, the places that he that he grew up. And yeah, you know, it's uh, it's just just.
00:50:16
Speaker 2: Bizarre that we're even talking about it. I think, well, the Attorney General said he hadn't done the research on what serial killers may or may not have been released overseas. Sean Fuster has. He's going to join us after seven thirty. I was talking to him about it. He cannot find an instance where this has happened anywhere else in in the western world, so we will talk to him about that after seven thirty. Today, let's check traffic. I just should mention too. So many police homecare texts about this story see South Australians are outraged. The police home Care text line is in meltdown about it on zero zero eight thirty ninety five traffic. We'll get back into more of that shortly. Enjoy your outdoor area all year round with an opening and closing roof design manufacturing installed locally by loub House, David.
00:50:54
Speaker 5: Penberthy and Wild Goodings. Five double A Breakfast twenty.
00:50:58
Speaker 2: Three minutes after seven, just rounding out the conversation mad before the break the head of the Parole Board, Francis Nelson Case, will be on with Graham Goodings at nine point fifteen this morning. So you've got some outstanding questions, perhaps they'll be answered there at very least they'll be asked, So make sure you stay listening after nine o'clock today for what was a world first yesterday here in South Australia, the Parole of James Osakas, we have tickets to sort of give away to the five double A locker room. It requires a ten dollars or more donation of five double A undidrive, dot com, dot a U, katherineous and hut streets any you do that and at eight o'clock we're going to pull a random name out that donated in the last hour and send you to the five double A locker room, which is as good as tickets get at Adelaide. Oval includes food before the game. You at the five hours Drink package and you get to send off one of the greats of the Port Adelaide Football Club in Travis Boke. I reckon cos you'll have some thoughts on that.
00:51:55
Speaker 4: Now, nevers.
00:52:00
Speaker 5: David cash on five Double a Breakfast.
00:52:06
Speaker 2: Compare the market economic director and Port Adelaide Football Club boss Koshi. Good morning to you, money Color. We're just trying to We're talking about it with Tom Ren earlier measuring Travis Boke's contribution to the Port Adelaide Football Club. He would have loved to say, well, I gave a premiership to the club, but I reckon, there's an argument to say he gave more given the commitment he made to the club. When well, when you came in, Koshi, when it was looking like there might not be an AFL Port Adelaide Football.
00:52:38
Speaker 18: Club, when Jared Weighty quaintly described us as the carcass on the AFL landscape, it was pretty grim. And this young bloke from Victoria had a chance, was being wooed aggressively by Victorian clubs and particularly Geelong, and he decided to stick with it. And not only that, so I want to take a leadership role in this club, and he is. He is up there with one of the greatest port Adelaide legends. I think as a contribution to the club. And you know, we've got legends that have won in strings of Sampled Premierships and the like. We have legends that have won AFL Premierships. But I reckon his contribution to the club and as a human being is unparallel. His loyalty, his professionalism. You couldn't ask for anything better in a player of any club. And look at the impact his vain Sam pal Pepper, when he was sort of learning his trade as a kid, went and lived with Bogy, learned how to be a profession and all football at Bogus mum. Chicky became his mum as well. And let's not forget the support Chicky bog has given Traver as well. It's a wonderful relationship the two have and is so important in Bok's life.
00:54:17
Speaker 4: How important was that decision to issue the advances of the Geelong Football Club, Dave, because for you and and to Ken at the time you were all sort of starting out on your journey. You know, you had a club that horrible heally quote encapsulated. You know, it had been a rough couple of years and you were financially on.
00:54:36
Speaker 2: The map as well.
00:54:38
Speaker 4: But can a moment like that can become a symbol that sort of resonates through an organization, can't it?
00:54:44
Speaker 13: Oh?
00:54:44
Speaker 18: Absolutely, and two other players in the group, players who were coming to the organization. Ollie Wines was drafted in that year and Jane Wines often says when Olie was drafted to Port Adelaide, she cried. She said, they thought he was going to football hell. And it was the Travis folks of the world at the time Don Cassizi as well, who settled those new players in coming in, helped define a culture that some would argue made us a destination club that players loved to come to and be part of. And yes, a lot of it has got to do with the coaching staff and Kenny, but equally as much as the leadership group led by Trav that set that culture up for the next ten to fifteen years. And that's how important his role has been for the club. And you know, we want to send him a way well and fittingly he deserves it.
00:56:03
Speaker 4: I was going to ask about that just to wrap up. Not sure, and obviously you don't pick the team, but he's been playing and whether it's against Freo or the final round of the year against Gold Coast, will it be Is there something special that the club does have in mind and be great to see as many fans there as possible.
00:56:21
Speaker 22: Obviously, yep, absolutely, you know it's all going to be about trad and and and also paying tribute and respect to Kenn as well. And I remember he was that first press conference and he said someone said, well, you know, were you the last man's standing in terms of a choice to come to Port Adelaide? And it took the Jedi square in the eye and said, I'm the right man standing.
00:56:51
Speaker 18: And that's that's that's set the tone and trap those important moments, and for me, they're they're really significant parts of the rebuild of Port Adelaide, just key foundations that that is a club we'll never forget.
00:57:08
Speaker 2: It's nice you're going to get a couple of weeks to celebrate an absolute legend of the club. Goshi, thanks for joining us this morning.
00:57:13
Speaker 18: Thanks, I've got it, and good luck being a fineman. Will you'll probably stay longer.
00:57:20
Speaker 2: Than everyone's making. I haven't done it. Let's find out.
00:57:30
Speaker 5: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast. It's time to go around the courts with Sean Fusta on five double a Breakfast.
00:57:41
Speaker 2: Well, I've blagiarized him enough this morning when I will introduce him to the studio and get him involved in the conversation. Sean fust is reporting on the parole decision regarding James Pasarkus as peerless this morning, and unlike the Attorney General, he has done a lot of background research around the historical and global significance of this. Sean, and you were the one who's pointed out, well, you can't find this ever happening before. We've got a few text people saying well, hang on, a decision was taken when someone was arrested and they have agreed to give evidence. Why are we turning this into something? Well, we're turning to something because it's never happened before.
00:58:14
Speaker 11: That's very right. Good morning, Will, Good morning Penmboa.
00:58:16
Speaker 10: It's nice to be back in the studio. Thank you for all your patients with that the last couple of months when my threat we've been recovering from illness, you've been crooked.
00:58:22
Speaker 2: So it's good to have you in. It's great day to have you in.
00:58:24
Speaker 10: Look It's an important day to be in here because this is a historic moment. You guys will remember and listeners might remember. Years ago I wrote a book called City of Evil, which was designed to dispel the myth that the bodies in the Barrels case had created that South Australia was the murder capital of the world. We dispelled that myth. You know, it even ended up on the Decks to TV show, it was that prolific. But this is something we can't walk away from the fact that we are, as far as I can find out, the only place in the world that has ever parolled a convicted serial killer. There are places where a mass killer multiple crimes committed on the same day that person has been paroled. There's even an instance in Austria where a man who was a murderer got parole and went on to become a serial killer. But as far as the research can fined, and as far as every expert I've spoken to and look, I hope to be wrong about this, but as far as I can find, no other place in the world has ever paroled a convicted serial killer.
00:59:17
Speaker 2: The thing that I struggle with that I take the point as we're just alluded to.
00:59:21
Speaker 4: We've had a couple of texts from people saying, well, if he's done his time and he's behaved himself, what's the issue. I think the issue is it's the number of people he killed and the manner in which they were killed.
00:59:31
Speaker 10: Well, I'll put it to you this way. The Hilio triple murderer is doing thirty five years. That was a woman and two kids, that was all on the same day. You look at the kapunditriple murderer, Jason Downey, whole family, same night, thirty five years. This is four people torture, as you say, separate occasions, separated greatly in time, and that's twenty six years. And in the case of both the Heilio triple murderer and the Punditrible murder. Before anybody says well false equivalents, both of those killers pleaded guilty as well. Now, they didn't have anybody to turn evidence on, and they certainly didn't have the luxury of blaming someone else in a group for their criminal ways, which is what Blasarkas has got going for him. But he served far less time than mass killers who committed their crimes in one hit and when you think about the heiliar case that had to go to appeal to be upped to thirty five years because the original sentence was so short. Even the killer himself said, my sentence is too low. And yet we've got blasarkas getting parole after twenty six years when it is a full on serial killing.
01:00:38
Speaker 4: The attorney General, the police commissioner, and the victim's Rights commissioner. None of the three is allowed to say publicly whether they will be appealing or not.
01:00:48
Speaker 2: That's right, but you can speculate. Do you think they will?
01:00:51
Speaker 11: I think you have to.
01:00:52
Speaker 10: I think even if you fail, you have to You have to be seen. You have to fly the flag. You have to be seen to be doing this. Now, I'm not talking so much about Sarah Quick. There Sarah Quick flies the flag every day. There is no one in this state that does more for victims than her. If it was up to her, she would have been I think in the parole board hearing waving the flag. At that moment when it comes to the Attorney General and the police commissioner, I think you've got to be seen to be doing the right thing because this is a global moment, this is.
01:01:22
Speaker 4: Something different isn't the counter argument that the Snowtown killings might have continued if not for James Vosarkus's decision to call the police.
01:01:33
Speaker 10: You could argue that the Snowtown killings might have stopped earlier had South Australia police intervened earlier. That's one of the other conspiracy theories that goes around how deep.
01:01:40
Speaker 4: Down the licking there might be for fewer dead people if James Vasakas didn't kill them.
01:01:44
Speaker 11: That's exactly right.
01:01:44
Speaker 10: How far down do you want to boil into this and into the suppositions and the what have views, and the maybes and the what ifs.
01:01:51
Speaker 2: The fact is this is the situation we got too.
01:01:53
Speaker 4: Like the thing I really struggle with is how on earth can you be part of the most grulish criminal enterprise ever perpetrated in the history of this country and we're told you're all better now and you're free to go and live in I don't know, Wayville, Shidow Park, Elizabeth North, and no one's allowed.
01:02:09
Speaker 10: To know that you're there for my money. It's because of the specter that Bunting casts. Everything from the moment those men were arrested was designed and pushed towards this narrative that Bunting is responsible. Bunting is the puppet master. Bunting is the master criminal who is responsible for everything. Everyone was so afraid of him, nobody could do anything without him. He was the Bengali that was ruling over this whole thing. It's a really convenient scapegoat to get past one's own moral culpability, because one's own moral culpability is automatically reduced. Well, I was only nineteen, and he was in a position of authority and control over me. So when you're accepting responsibility for guilt, you're only doing it to a particular level.
01:02:48
Speaker 2: The Attorney General with US used to turn a phrase. I think it was compelling reasons. It might well have been to a challenge a parole board decision. What's the history of what constitutes compelling reasons that? When does that work in terms of government appeals of these sorts of decisions.
01:03:04
Speaker 10: Well, because we don't hear about them very often, it's hard to answer that question. One would imagine, and I have to speculate here, as much as I hate doing it, that you're compelling reasons would be community safety, You're compelling reasons would be behavior in prison. You're compelling reasons would be the seriousness of the crime. Now, if Lasakas has been as well behaved in prison as every single person, both on and off the record, swears to, then it's going to be very hard to argue that he should still.
01:03:29
Speaker 15: Be in there.
01:03:30
Speaker 10: The man, by all intents and purposes, by the metrics that we set, is rehabilitated. Appears to be how are you going to argue that there's compelling reasons to keep him away from the people of the community, absent the fact of the nature of.
01:03:46
Speaker 4: How do you take how on earth do you rehabilitate someone who's done these things to people?
01:03:51
Speaker 10: And that's the question, that's the live question. Our metrics say that he's rehabilitated, But does that.
01:03:56
Speaker 4: Mean it's not like someone who shot someone in a brawl over a some relationship. You know, you shoot some guy because you find out he's sleeping with your wife.
01:04:05
Speaker 11: Crime of passion, Yeah, where you belt.
01:04:07
Speaker 4: Someone in a Barbara or I'm not making any of those things. It's just like creatively screwed up weirdness.
01:04:16
Speaker 2: How well to that to that end? Then how likely is it is? It is an argument to be made about the historical significance, the uniqueness of it, and saying, well, the metrics that we have in place to determine rehab don't fit the set of circumstances and the behaviors that we're trying to correct.
01:04:34
Speaker 10: And I think that's exactly why it needs to be flown up the flagpole. You hear all the time in court, Well, these laws have never been tested, This argument's never been tested. Well, the concept of rehabilitation after serial killing has never been tested as far as we can find in the entire world. So it's time for South Australia to pony up.
01:04:50
Speaker 2: And do it.
01:04:51
Speaker 4: Amazing, amazing that we're even talking about it, Jean, indeed, great having your back mate, Yeah.
01:04:57
Speaker 2: Great to have you back in the studio. Remarkable reporting. If you haven't read shall piece this morning, do so. And of all course what was always check out Just Lovell the podcast. You can listen to it here on five double or you're everywhere you get podcasts, don't you Absolutely all right? Good stuff? Sean, great, have you win. We're going to take a quick break, We'll check traffic and come back with more undrdrive related silliness In just a moment. Enjoy your outdial area all year round with an opening and closing roof design manufacturing and installed locally by Louba House, David.
01:05:22
Speaker 5: Penberthie and Wild Goodings five double a Breakfast.
01:05:26
Speaker 2: Ten minutes to wait. I'm officially nervous. We've got the Chief Officer of the MFS, Jeff Swan and the five double a beck for a studio whethers if you want to watch on the Facebook or YouTube live stream. Chief, good morning to you, good morning, Thank you very much. You've got a some very heavy looking kit for me as well. Here you guys were at.
01:05:43
Speaker 7: I've got one of our fire fighting jackets here for you. It's actually the kit that we wear to a structure fire, so it's what keeps our firefighters safe and protected in a fire.
01:05:55
Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question about firefighting? Have any of your officers ever cried on the job or killed over from putting the gear on?
01:06:05
Speaker 7: We do get some of our firefighters after working in extreme conditions. Yeah, no, That's why it's really important that our fitness and everything is maintained so that we don't do that so that wild happen. Maybe some of our staff that have secondary employment could suffer with that.
01:06:24
Speaker 23: But.
01:06:26
Speaker 7: Normal fire fighters are extremely fit and well prepared.
01:06:30
Speaker 2: In all seriousness, say, it's a remarkable you guys coming to the party and helping us out for the UNDI Drive. We can't thank you enough because we know you've given up time and you've come in here, you've brought the stuff, You've got trucks and so forth, and it's these are the sorts of contributions that make the under drive possible and make it bigger than just two blokes sitting in a studio talking about Catherine How's an art street center. So, in all sincerity, thank you so much for giving up your time and being part of our drive.
01:06:55
Speaker 7: That's an absolute pleasure. And look, it really is a team effort from the MF. We've got some really great people that get involved in a whole range of events and charity events for the community, and that is probably one of the most special things of the MFS. Everyone is community minded and they're doing it for the right reasons.
01:07:13
Speaker 4: Chief, it's pretty hard to get a job with the MFS. What sort of physical shape do you need to be in? Is the physical a big part of the entry exam?
01:07:21
Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, the physical aptitude test is certainly a really big part of it. So there's there's two tests. One is the beep test, which is the shuttle run. So that's to a nine point six standard. So if you compare that to I think the police use about a two standard. No, that's not actually true. They are about a six or seven.
01:07:46
Speaker 4: Can you look at someone and just from having a quick squeeze at the mic for example, and gourse.
01:07:51
Speaker 7: This guy up to it a little bit of training and we would be absolutely up to it a little And then the aptitude test is really about, you know, just your physical ability to climb a ladder and carry it out. Problem to dragged dummy.
01:08:05
Speaker 2: We're about to fight out, I guess are. We can ask you about the actual job and the people that do do this every day and the risks they take in the work that your officers do. I imagine it's changed over the years as well. You know, you've got you called on to do probably more things than ever before we talk about you know, you guys are there for the when we talk about the road sol every morning, you guys are probably the first ones that have been there. How is how has fire fighting changed?
01:08:30
Speaker 7: Look, it has been a real evolution certainly over my career where it's you know, fires are about fifty percent of our calls. Now we go to a lot of road crash rescue, well, a lot of assist other agencies. So the you know, the emergency services as a collective really work really collaboratively, so with the police and the Ambulance Service and the SEES and the CFS will work really closely together to provide a great response for the community. So it really is a big team effort to respond to a range of different emergencies, whether that's a rescue, lots of industrial rescues, so accidents on work sites. Do you the has matt stuff like spills and that, Yeah, we do all of the HASMA and chemical spills, things like the.
01:09:14
Speaker 2: Big strew of the other day.
01:09:15
Speaker 4: And I was on a Virgin flight and noted the announcement that they made that if anybody had lithium batteries on board in their overhead compartment they had to keep an eye on their bags, bring the bags out of the cabin and put them at their feet. Has that become Has that changed firefighting in the last few years.
01:09:32
Speaker 7: Look, that has been a massive change in firefighting litium ion batteries, and we've done a few media campaigns around it in the last couple of years, but just to educate people around the challenges and make sure we don't charge anything in the home, make sure it's in a nice area away from combustibles, not to leave things charged. The biggest issue though, is people buying incompatible charges for their device, so they either put different batteries in or modify a piece of equipment and using incompatible charges, which overheats the batteries and then can lead to a fire.
01:10:04
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking as you talk about the breadth of responsibilities beyond the literal fighting of fires component. There was a story recently. It was only a footnote in the story that we covered. I think it was largely about ambulance response times, but someone had come to grief in the city and it was the fieries who were providing CPR there because you guys were there first. Yep.
01:10:21
Speaker 7: So yeah, all of our ambulances do carry defibrillators and are all trained in first aid, so we'll provide first aid response to assist the ambulance service when required.
01:10:31
Speaker 2: Now, I don't know if the police commissioner hurd you barb about the fitness standards there at the police. But he's called in.
01:10:36
Speaker 7: I did see his name on the screen there, so I that was an intentional barb.
01:10:40
Speaker 2: The scimmished the grant.
01:10:41
Speaker 24: Steven's good boarding, Yeah, good morning, and we'll I've got to tell you how disappointed I am that you decided to join the firees and not the cops. But I know you guys don't work very hard, so it's probably a better fit given your bad back. I reckon, Jeff, have done something different with you. You should have put your night shift so you could have a good eight hour sleep in the comfortable bed.
01:11:04
Speaker 2: Rather, you're not going to cut that a you, Jenny.
01:11:09
Speaker 7: Look, there is some element of preparedness that we do go through so keeping our fire is ready to go. But we'd be really happy if you did join the police, because there'd be no doubt you'd come across the fire service after a couple of years anyway, because we have a lot of recruits from the police, and just just for the commission how many how many fire fighters do you have ex fire fighters as police officers?
01:11:31
Speaker 24: Commissioner Well, that the concept of actually working for a living really doesn't sit well with fiery, so we don't do any And I will point out one of the pre entry tests to join the fire's got to be able to cook a good roast for your mates on afternoon shift, and.
01:11:48
Speaker 2: We don't.
01:11:48
Speaker 7: We only have selected people that do that. We don't need everyone to cook the roast. It's specialist skill sets are really important in the fire service.
01:11:57
Speaker 2: You know a friend show YouTube folks all over.
01:12:01
Speaker 24: Can I just say, with a degree of seriousness, you know the fieries do an excellent job on those rare occasions they're called to do their job.
01:12:13
Speaker 2: Commissioners, thank you for the real reason I didn't do this with the police commissioners is you terrify me as a boss of so you give that stair sometimes during interviews and anything all Cricky'm in danger here, so I couldn't. I couldn't turn up to work and do with that. Now it's time for the jack. Good on your commissioner and we'll see you.
01:12:29
Speaker 4: I hope you've been practicing your triangle, Commissioner, because this Friday.
01:12:35
Speaker 7: Just make sure you got that gun Holsted. Commissioner, what a skin. That was remarkable, very seriousness. The commissioner is a fantastic gentleman and a great commissioner, and we have a great relationship with the police and we have a huge amount of respect for him.
01:13:02
Speaker 4: So Will is now slipping into the gear. You will get warm in that one of those two devices.
01:13:09
Speaker 2: You've got there.
01:13:10
Speaker 4: One looks like a sort of coal miner's lantern.
01:13:13
Speaker 2: Break a breaker, Break your break.
01:13:16
Speaker 7: He's got one of our gr N radios and a one of the.
01:13:20
Speaker 2: Tortures that can we get five double A on the GRN radio.
01:13:24
Speaker 7: I don't think we can normally, but I'm sure it could be modified. We can get one of our radio texts to the.
01:13:29
Speaker 4: Light that's presumably for going through smoke or you know, doing stuff where you can't see.
01:13:34
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's correct. So there's a couple of different angles on it so it can point down or so you can point out how.
01:13:40
Speaker 2: Much does all this stuff way cheap?
01:13:42
Speaker 7: Look all up and I would have to just double check. Come with the newer gear, but it's around about thirty two kilos when you've got the set and everything all kitted up, booted and spurred.
01:13:55
Speaker 4: I's been practicing by getting a croissant and a flat wire pass to him every denon and the makeup channel.
01:14:02
Speaker 2: But then jaggling a bit of stuff.
01:14:05
Speaker 7: In addition to that, the fi is depending on the job, could carry a significant amount of kit.
01:14:10
Speaker 2: You know.
01:14:10
Speaker 7: If there's a job into a high rise building, there's a high rise pack, so you've got a hose and some other equipment once you get up there, So they could be carrying an extra ten or fifteen KOs as well. It's a small person, yeah, so you know, and that's why fitness and making sure we get the right people for the fire service is really important.
01:14:28
Speaker 2: Well, Chief, thank you for coming in. I wouldn't know if I'll be thinking you in an hour's time, but we will. We'll see how that all goes. The MFS Chief Jeff Swan our guest on five double A Breakfast for the five double A AI Drive were to take break of course, to make it all happen, we need your donations, folks, so get donating now five to bl Andi drive dot com, dot au, Catherine House and Hut Street Center. We want some businesses to get involved as well. Get on board, get a shout out, give our wonderful charities a little bit of love this morning and that will certainly make it worth your while. Well out the winer of the tickets to every single day nation of ten dollars or more has gone and running doing five double A locker room tickets, So that will be announced very shortly.
01:15:05
Speaker 5: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double A breakfast.
01:15:09
Speaker 2: Five double A here in High Marsh Square at the moment is seriously seriously entertaining. That's not a fire, but there may well be an emergency. Then they are if you look on the Facebook and YouTube live stream, because they are here in preparedness, because we are going to recreate climbing from the basement to the roof of the building in all the gear and look for.
01:15:27
Speaker 4: The benefit of those of you who are in your car or listening without access to the live stream. Will has got the MFS T shirt on, he's got the he's got the guns out, looking good looking, buff, looking a bit like Patrick Swayze and Backdraft. Oh yeah, do you get the big axe you're going to get?
01:15:45
Speaker 2: I don't know if I get the big acts.
01:15:46
Speaker 4: Is the show going to reach a heady climax with you smashing your way into the studio one minute to nine? They wouldn't that be something I might have something that I could use to ignite some papers with maybe just put the boys to the test. They're all here, why not why not get donating those folks.
01:16:03
Speaker 2: Five to Blandy drive dot com dot au is the place to go, and the climb will begin very very surely. If I think I'm gonna go down and get a full briefing down in the truck, shortly, we're going to be showing it all on the Facebook and YouTube live stream, so make sure you tune in and and look. Frankly, I have no idea what's going to happen. I'm not even sure I'll be able to complete this challenge. I hope we don't have a live read at five to nine. You might be out of breath. Mate.
01:16:28
Speaker 4: Yeah we seven fights and stairs were thirty two kilograms worth a gear.
01:16:32
Speaker 2: When I'm not here, don't mean I just don't need to miss opportunities. For example, if if there's something, if the worst were to happen, don't just immediately call emergency service. Say if we get five hundred dollars worth of donations with the UNDI drive, the firegs will perform CPR on wheel. Don't worry, we'll work it for all. It's word, okay, I hate to think we wasted a tragedy.
01:16:51
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01:16:57
Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be something? Use that to raise money?
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01:17:39
Speaker 4: The state government's announced this morning that it's going to introduce a ban on the use of personal mobile phones and other mobile devices in all childcare centers early year services. And it's all about strengthening the safety of kids in light of the horror that emerged from Victoria. The one good thing, if you can even use the word good in this context to emerge from that absolute outrage is that it seems to have actually woken up the authorities as to the need to do a hell of a lot more to keep our kids safe. Blair Boyer is the Education Ministry and he's joining us now for breaking at eight. Minister, good morning this This is not only a good move, it looks like a pretty quick move. It's coming in September.
01:18:17
Speaker 20: Yeah, much as we can here, I wanted us to be first out of the blocks, and we will be along with Victoria to have the personal device ban in place. It'll mean from the first of September, all those centers that are going to be covered in South Australia and it will be about nine hundred must have a policy and then from about the twenty sixth of that month enforcement starts, including spot checks by the regulator and some pretty speed fines up to fifty thousand dollars if they don't comply.
01:18:44
Speaker 4: So how will the ban actually work, Minister? Because I'm sure that you know these people working in these centers.
01:18:49
Speaker 2: They're all adults.
01:18:50
Speaker 4: They might have I don't know, like an elderly relative who's unwell. They might have they might have to be in touch with their own kids who might be at school and you know, your kid gets gastro or something, you get a call from the sick room. Will they still be able to have a designated period where they can actually check their phones during the working day.
01:19:12
Speaker 20: Yes, if as long as they're not essentially on shift and responsible for children. And that's only if they are not if they are on duty, so to speak, and they're responsible for the care of kids in long day care or preschool, the phone must be away in a locker or in their bag. If there are those kind of circumstances you mentioned around, you know, having a sick loved one or something like that, they can get an exemption from the director of their service to be reachable on that day, but it has to be approved by that director. It's not carte blanche, and they can't just do it whenever they want so.
01:19:43
Speaker 4: In a way, this is almost like the adult version of what you've done in schools, isn't it It is?
01:19:48
Speaker 20: That's often the way I describe it too. It is the adult version of the mobile phone band from high schools. It essentially works exactly the same way, and it will also include personal advices which smart watches which might include a camera, because I understand there are some of those on the market now that actually have a camera, so you could use that to covertly record things. So this personal device band will cover that as well.
01:20:11
Speaker 4: Are there are any other measures that are on the horizon that have arisen out of the Victorian case that the state government's looking at too.
01:20:18
Speaker 20: Yes, there are, there's a few. One is a National Register of Workers, so a database essentially of those working in these settings, so that you can as an employer and as a regulator, you can check to see a bit of their history about where they've been working. We know from this person who did this teen of stuff in Victoria that he worked at a lot of different centers, and that seems to be the pattern. Sometimes they try to jump across state borders and get access that way. So I register so we can keep better track more. CCTV is certainly being looked at as well, and I think they'll probably be a pretty decent conversation that's already kicked off around ratios of staff as well. It's important, I think, to remember none of this stuff, unfortunately, is a silver bullet of it by itself will necessarily stop someone who's prepared to do the things that happened in Melbourne. But I think all together it will really reduce risk and I think will give parents more confidence when they're dropping their kids off in the morning.
01:21:13
Speaker 4: Can I just say one thing, there's a bit of a reflective comment on how society can get screwed up on account of the miscreants that the minority of miscreants that inhabit it. One thing I like as a parent is we have an app called Seesaw through our school, and you'd be familiar with that, I'm sure, as a parent and as a minister to layer. But often during the day I'll get an email from Seesaw saying this is what Sam's been doing today, and they will send a video of him giving a speech or one of Charlie's done some art, and you get pictures of him proudly holding up the art. That's a digitally driven educational moment. At the moment that is a parent that makes you feel proud. Things like that kind of imperiled by the world that we now inhabit.
01:22:02
Speaker 20: That's a really great example. I was thinking of that this morning because I remember, like it was yesterday when my now eleven year old was dropped off for the first time at childcare and she was upset. I was upset. I remember driving away thinking what have I done here? And then later in the day I got a photo through I think it was seesaw from the community childcare center showing what a great time she was having, and that was brilliant. And I don't want to deprive parents of that, So that kind of thing can still happen, but there has to be a center approved device that is looked after by the director, no personal devices. But yes, you're absolutely right. I think this kind of staff brings into peril, as you said, the upside of digital technology as well, and that's actually a great example of where it can be really good and great the parents through, which is disappointing.
01:22:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's almost like these days at school sport. You know, if you whippy camera out to take a picture your kid, you want to make sure that you're nice and tight on the angle and that you don't look like you're taking a group photograph. It's a sad state of affairs.
01:23:05
Speaker 20: I reckon it is a sad state of affairs. I totally agree. And the horrible thing is is that like this person in Melbourne, I mean, they are experts at finding the gaps in systems. It's what they do, you know, whether it's moving centers, routinely being out of shot of CCTV, ingratiating themselves with parents, they're masters of that. Often you hear about we thought he was such a good person, he was lovely to us. That's all part of the grooming process these people do, so they're not under suspicion. It is shocking, shocking stuff, but unfortunately that's what we're trying to protect ourselves against.
01:23:42
Speaker 2: Education.
01:23:43
Speaker 4: Minister Blair, boy, thanks for joining us this morning.
01:23:48
Speaker 2: I'm glad you asked that question about the potential positive use of technology in those environments. I'm glad they thought about it and they've got an answer for it. Yeah, I was sure. That feels like a really good solution. Yeah, it does. You have one that it's hard to misuse something that belongs to the center. Yeah, that everyone's got access.
01:24:05
Speaker 4: If it's done in an open environment where there's there's other workers there, then I've got no issue with that.
01:24:11
Speaker 2: As a parent. A lot of parents do though, I mean, because well, things.
01:24:15
Speaker 4: Like you know, well you'd know with TV when when the media gets footage of a school, like you know, they might even do it today. They might want footage. I'm sure you will want footage of a childcare center. You often see those letters home do you consent to your children being in this? And a lot of people say no.
01:24:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, We're going to check traffic and then we're going to have a very quick break and then I'm going to disappear in fact speed. Let's look at field Watch first, because we've got some fuel Watch information to just come through. It's better to be a member with RAA road service. The Mobile Shadow Park Commercial Road dollar fifty seven point five is as cheap as you'll find. The Rangers is pretty big today. The shell OTRs and Mary's is at a dollar seventy nine point nine for example. And then you've got, in fact, the best enough. I was just spotted a better one. The United Flinders Park Gray Drug is a dollar fifty six point nine, so that's as good as you're going to find it. Diesel is relatively speaking, pretty good. The Liberty put Adelaide Saint Vincent Street East is the best at the dollar sixty seven point five. The cow TeX's Clamsy gog row Dollar sixty nine point nine is pretty good as well. Now I'm going to go in a moment and prove why it's so hard to be a fineman. Okay, I think I'm going to do them a great deal of good Where's your mum? She must be round here, she's in the building. I think, Oh, excellent, she's taking over after the break fantastic Eve Goodings on debut. I'm as scared for you as I am for me.
01:25:34
Speaker 4: We now have three fifths of the Gooding family Goodings family working at five double A. What did John I say he's going to get Sam and your sister when there's no.
01:25:42
Speaker 2: Budget bringing a Goodings that he said, Let's check traffic and I'll leave you to it. Enjoy your out to an area all year round with an opening and closing roof design manufactured and installed locally by Livehouse.
01:25:53
Speaker 5: David Penberthie and World Goodings five double A Breakfast.
01:25:58
Speaker 1: It's game one and with authors on you and demonstrator models you that you're participating, Young day.
01:26:04
Speaker 3: Dealer today, five double A Breakfast David penberthy and Will's mum, what about that?
01:26:13
Speaker 4: If you've even got your own promo. David Penmoody and will'smum. It is David Penmothy and Will's Mum at eight twenty three here in Himo square five, double a. Eve Goodings, welcome to the program.
01:26:23
Speaker 9: Thank you. I don't like this w camera stuff on me.
01:26:27
Speaker 2: Oh this is the live stream. It's gone. It's gone all high tech now.
01:26:30
Speaker 9: Oh good, that's nice. The microphones in my face, I love it.
01:26:33
Speaker 4: We're going to cross to your son shortly, Eve, but can I just ask you, as a mother, how do you feel about the fact that your son is wearing thirty two kilograms worth of firefighting equipment.
01:26:43
Speaker 9: I'm not happy with John at all?
01:26:45
Speaker 2: Do you know?
01:26:45
Speaker 9: Paul Will has got such a such a bad back.
01:26:49
Speaker 2: That is it?
01:26:50
Speaker 9: The other thing I was thinking when I was driving here, why isn't John O doing something?
01:26:54
Speaker 4: Well, he's a fire fighter in his spare time.
01:26:57
Speaker 9: But why haven't we challenged him with something that is a.
01:27:00
Speaker 2: Really good point that he is an excellent point two days to go.
01:27:04
Speaker 9: Yeah, let's come up with something for John.
01:27:07
Speaker 2: You know.
01:27:07
Speaker 4: The thing is that there are some ideas that are vetoed in all seriousness in the planning of this year's under Drive There was a serious discussion about whether Sapole would agree to us having Tom Wren put on all the protective gear and then be attacked by a police dog.
01:27:26
Speaker 2: Seriously, but.
01:27:30
Speaker 9: HR stepped in and the most boring people.
01:27:36
Speaker 2: Stick in the MUDs.
01:27:36
Speaker 9: They are really a pack. That would have been really funny. Sorry Tommy, but I think that would have been very.
01:27:41
Speaker 2: Fun Tom would have been up for it.
01:27:42
Speaker 4: Well, look, we're going to cross out now to catch up with Will because he's he's donning the gear.
01:27:47
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he's fully dressed ready to go.
01:27:52
Speaker 9: Oh my god, Hey, will you look pretty good in that?
01:27:56
Speaker 2: I feel pretty good in it. I've got to say I was nervous before, but now I'm just I just want to rescue someone just waiting for sudden go wrong. You've always been I'm ready, I've got my I don't know what any of this stuff does, but I'm ready to use it.
01:28:08
Speaker 9: Let's see you go up the stairs and how long you last before?
01:28:11
Speaker 25: No, can't.
01:28:12
Speaker 2: I can't rescue anyone beyond a five meter radius, but you can't actually move. Have a look at this thing on my back. I think I've dropped out.
01:28:24
Speaker 9: No, you've gone really weird.
01:28:26
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, he's back here. I can hear I'm back. I'm back. I think I might have enthusiasm knocked things out and again the oxygen tank, We've got the gas mask. I've got the chief here to guide me through the whole thing, talking to me. If he gets hurt, my mother's threatening your chief.
01:28:45
Speaker 7: I'll take that seriously.
01:28:47
Speaker 2: I would be a little bit concerned. So what am I wearing here? What do we got on? What's the what's the critical gear?
01:28:52
Speaker 7: You're you're wearing the normal fire fighting gear, which is a protective equipment that keeps you safe in a fire. But you're all so wearing breathing apparatus on your back. That's the cylinder on your back. Then the mask that will go on your face, so that if we go into a toxic atmosphere, we're going to put that on and keep us safe. We won't wear that going up the stairwell initially because we've normally done that in clean air just before. Because depending on how hard we're working, I'm suspecting you're going to be working pretty hard. We'll only have about twenty minutes of air.
01:29:23
Speaker 2: This is a radio station, so it is quite by a definition of toxic atmosphere. So that's a pretty good thing, and I've got that in place.
01:29:30
Speaker 7: We've also got an axe and a hooligan tool in case we have to break into a door when we get there, because we'll have something to rescue. So we've got some breaking gear to actually make entry.
01:29:40
Speaker 2: A hooligan tool.
01:29:41
Speaker 7: Hooligan tool, that's correct.
01:29:42
Speaker 2: Can I ask where it got its name from?
01:29:44
Speaker 7: Well, that's a very good question, and I'm sure it was from the designers, but I don't know. But there've been a standard piece of our kit now for many years, and they're a great tool for breaking into a doorway or making entry.
01:29:57
Speaker 2: I'm glad you explained that because I thought it was for use during sort of European football qualifies or something or other. But all right, well, I think i'll throw out to you guys in the studio. Sounds like you're having fun in there. I've got some stairs to climb. Good on you will, goode will?
01:30:11
Speaker 9: I reckon? It comes from the West is of Sydney.
01:30:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're a west he Ain't you from Canley Vale, aren't you you?
01:30:19
Speaker 21: Mom?
01:30:19
Speaker 9: Yes, don't say it like that.
01:30:21
Speaker 2: It's Canley Vale, Canley Vale.
01:30:23
Speaker 9: Between Fairfield and Camera Mada.
01:30:26
Speaker 2: That is a pretty gritty part of it.
01:30:28
Speaker 9: I have a T shirt I survived the West. Oh really have Sydney?
01:30:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, big Polish community there, because that's where your people are originally from.
01:30:36
Speaker 9: Yes, definitely, Mum and dad both Poles.
01:30:39
Speaker 4: Excellent now I know that because well every World Cup comes in we're in his Polish soccer kit Polska.
01:30:45
Speaker 2: And how good is this?
01:30:46
Speaker 4: We love the fact that so many people organically get behind the UNDI driving. Yesterday we noticed the sign up on a jack Kiway outside the Wonderful Highway Hotel there on the corner of Marion Road and Nan jack Kiway, where the the pub's own sign has been changed to read let's get behind five double a's under drive. They need our help? Well, indeed we do for the Hut Street Center and Catherine House. Christine mccaulif from the Highways on the line. Now, hey Christine, we can't thank you enough for doing that. We're really touched when we realize what you've done.
01:31:19
Speaker 23: That's okay, guys, We're happy to help out.
01:31:21
Speaker 4: So look, just in terms of you know, the sign, we are actually wondering whether you would be you would be happy. Hang on, I've got Will in my ear.
01:31:34
Speaker 2: Will is in my ear.
01:31:35
Speaker 4: Sorry, I've just you might want to unplug him in case he says anything untoward.
01:31:39
Speaker 2: Sorry, Christina, you're there.
01:31:41
Speaker 23: That's okay, Yes, I'm here.
01:31:42
Speaker 4: How would you feel about us auctioning off your.
01:31:45
Speaker 2: Sign for a day?
01:31:47
Speaker 17: You would love it.
01:31:47
Speaker 23: Actually, we can do it for more than a day. We're happy for Friday, Saturday, Sunday, so they can have it.
01:31:52
Speaker 21: For the whole weekend.
01:31:53
Speaker 4: So anyone who wants to write a dedication of love or possibly they can do.
01:31:59
Speaker 23: A marriage proposal, they can do a birth day. They could advertise their business within reason. Of course, don't need all the other hotels advertising on our side.
01:32:11
Speaker 2: You're not going to put up a plug for Peter Early's marrying Hotel or anything like that.
01:32:15
Speaker 23: No, it's all for a good cause, so maybe we might even consider it.
01:32:22
Speaker 6: Like it.
01:32:23
Speaker 4: What was just saying, Christine've got a long association with the Highway because we had our nineteen eighty five marrying high school social there.
01:32:31
Speaker 23: Oh well, there you go in the old in the old function room.
01:32:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there was a wonderful sixty to forty man playing.
01:32:36
Speaker 9: It was a cracking night, Christine, it's starting. They'll start singing those songs.
01:32:43
Speaker 4: So look, Christine, thanks to the generosity of the Highway, we're going to throw it over to our listeners and to businesses. The highest bidder by nine o'clock today. The highest bidder will, through your generosity, be able.
01:32:58
Speaker 2: To put up.
01:33:00
Speaker 4: Pretty much anything they want no expletives on the highway sign for three days.
01:33:06
Speaker 23: Exactly this Friday, Saturday and Sunday. They can have whatever they like on our fun and we're happy to advertise first for a great cause.
01:33:12
Speaker 4: Hey look, that's so kind of you, Christine, Thank you so much.
01:33:15
Speaker 2: So hot to Adelaide.
01:33:16
Speaker 4: Get donating and head into the Highway for a great meal and a pint. We'll be back Eve after the thirty newsbreak we will.
01:33:23
Speaker 1: It's game on at heyun day with authors on you and demonstrator models. Visit you're participating them day.
01:33:29
Speaker 3: Dealer today five double A Breakfast, David Penberthy and Eve Goodings.
01:33:37
Speaker 4: Welcome back. It's eight thirty nine. I am here with a wonderful Eve Goodings. We now have sixty percent of the Goodings family represented at five double A. We just need to get your other son and your daughter in here.
01:33:47
Speaker 9: As right, and then we just we'll buy the place.
01:33:50
Speaker 2: It's full takeover.
01:33:52
Speaker 9: It would be good. You've don't had the money.
01:33:54
Speaker 2: You've done a bit of radio yourself, haven't you loved it?
01:33:56
Speaker 9: I used to travel up to Matt Barker and do a program called Evi and Lee and a Great Maid of Mine, and we just loved it. And we used to do eight full stories in two hours. Seriously, Yeah, we really did.
01:34:12
Speaker 2: Was it music as well?
01:34:14
Speaker 9: We loved music. And what we used to do is compare it as a It would like be a blackano to the story that we did, Okay, so it would have to be marrying up to that story of what the music was. And I actually ended up hearing so many songs I'd never heard before because Lee's taste was totally different to mine.
01:34:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, how much? It was great.
01:34:33
Speaker 9: It was really really good, and we used to podcast it. We can still find it. We were because it was some time ago before it was a trend. And I even edited up my own shows, which, yeah, should.
01:34:44
Speaker 2: Be checking on your son's welfare.
01:34:46
Speaker 9: Oh my godness, has he done anything yet?
01:34:49
Speaker 2: We're about to find out? Will can you hear us? Where are you? Yeah? I can hear you. I almost died of exhaustion while listening to Muma Sprink or old radio program. I kid you not fired income if you cross down. Two minutes earlier, I nearly stabbed myself with the hooligan tool. I dropped it while we were standing here waiting. So I've been that's been taken off me. So we're going to get to that in just a moment. I feel absolutely ridiculous. Every time I look at the chief here, I think he looks like he's cast in a Hollywood movie to save people from buildings. I've never seen such a picture of confidence and calm. Have you ever had to rescue a fellow fireman, chief, because you might have to do it today.
01:35:30
Speaker 7: No, I've never had to rescue a fellow fireman. We've trained for it a lot, but I've never actually had to do it. Say I hope not to do it today.
01:35:37
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how eventful first day goes. We've got to zero one and two zero five either side of us here, and you can see if we pan up with the camera, that device that's going up into the other cherry picker style device is going to contain me very shortly. I've been told unfortunate. Well that too. Unfortunately. The weather's improved enough that we going up, so we might we might start the climb, because this isn't getting any lighter, this stuff. So I'm going to pass this over and let's get into it, shall we?
01:36:11
Speaker 9: Oh? My goodness, gracious, are you serious?
01:36:14
Speaker 4: All the colors you just strained out of his face? Folks, because if you were under the impression where you're not, as was I that because of the rain, that will wasn't going up.
01:36:21
Speaker 9: In the Yeah, that was exactly I'm going to get it.
01:36:28
Speaker 2: You can't stop it.
01:36:29
Speaker 4: Now they're going into the building, into the lifts and start about to head down the stairs.
01:36:34
Speaker 2: We go, oh, he's still got snow stairs yet, and I'm already puffing. Is that a bad sign?
01:36:38
Speaker 3: Is that?
01:36:39
Speaker 9: Is that an axe in your hand?
01:36:42
Speaker 2: Might be the hooligans? He was saving myself with the stair climb component of this five double A security. We can't God speed through the doors. All right, there we go, God speeds theme time.
01:36:54
Speaker 4: Well, it's so hard because we're going to lose contact with his son while he's a stairwell.
01:36:59
Speaker 9: I think it'll be done about one more stairs.
01:37:02
Speaker 2: Chief something's come off. So he's come off.
01:37:05
Speaker 9: He's dropped something, all right, out of breath already?
01:37:11
Speaker 2: How much at the top.
01:37:14
Speaker 4: Picks halfway up the first wider stairs?
01:37:16
Speaker 2: Five?
01:37:17
Speaker 9: The color of his faith, it's already read.
01:37:20
Speaker 2: He's pretty fit. Tho he is fit? Is about carrying all this all the difference. It's like carrying another pieces. It's about thirty like you would have too many hog horizons and Adelaide and you know.
01:37:32
Speaker 9: What climbing stairs is her then just tread milling and all that. Yeah, he's out of breath already.
01:37:40
Speaker 2: We want in a chair a picker to take me down. He just did? Did that come through what he just said? Yeah?
01:37:47
Speaker 4: He might actually need the cherry picker to take him down. Well, we'll continues with the walk. We are going to talk now to our next guest, Matt, who any of you will know, particularly given that he has become the crows lucky charm. Every time that Summer has played the saxophone this year at Adelaide Crow's home games, the Crows have won. He missed the Geelong game. Maybe he was the difference that night with the Cats coming back in the second quarter. But Matt, it's great to have you on the show again.
01:38:20
Speaker 2: Mate? How good was last Friday? First? How good?
01:38:23
Speaker 25: I was so stressed that first quarter, I was, I was sitting in the stands and I yeah, I was very I was looking, you know, trying to cancel my Grand Final accommodation. And then yeah, quickly got back on in the last last half. But it's great. It's great to see them, and that's a that's a real, you know, sort of a win that you want to see going into finals for sure.
01:38:48
Speaker 9: Yeah, little faith giving up after one, I know.
01:38:51
Speaker 25: Matt Steve, I'm sorry, but yeah I.
01:38:55
Speaker 2: Will. And don't worry.
01:38:57
Speaker 25: I'm happy. I'm happy to always admit when I was wrong and I was definitely right.
01:39:01
Speaker 9: Okay, So listen, how much is going to cost us or the footy to get you over for the finals.
01:39:09
Speaker 2: Look, I.
01:39:11
Speaker 25: I would almost, if you know, it, would almost just give up playing if they meant that they could win the premiership. You know that's all that really matters. But yeah, hopefully, hopefully, you know, we you know, we can get over there for the finals. And if we get two home finals that I reckon, that's that's you know a better chance than me hopefully getting you know, to be able to play. But yeah, we're just going on one more week to go, so we'll get through that first.
01:39:34
Speaker 4: Hey, that isn't the problem though, that because the AFL, not the clubs runs the finals that you probably wouldn't be able to do it because it's a croze thing not an AFL.
01:39:44
Speaker 2: We can.
01:39:46
Speaker 25: Correct. Andrew Dylon, I think was at the showdown, so I'm hoping that that's yeah for the especially for the home finals that they let you know, crews have their usual pre game with myself and the the drummers that played beforehand. But yeah, it is an AFL thing, so yes, correctly technically we that still needs to be sort of signed off, but I'm pretty confident that was shapefully well figure.
01:40:11
Speaker 4: That sounds great. A bit of breaking news, hey, Matt. Now, obviously the Anti Drive is on this week and the reason we've got you on and we're so excited about this. Would you like to be part Would you be prepared to be part of the police band ensemble that we're putting together this Friday playing an easy undisclosed tune to raise money for the Anti Drive.
01:40:36
Speaker 25: I would love to be a part of it, and it's so nice to actually get an opportunity to be part of such a good band. And you know, I was saying to John not the producer, about the Police band are seriously talented musicians. So I'm pretty nervous about this.
01:40:52
Speaker 9: I wouldn't be nervous if I was, especially John. I mean, Matt, you've been playing in front of about fifty thousand people before that. What was your biggest crowd.
01:41:04
Speaker 25: I've been pretty lucky. I've done a fair bit of work in Dying with one of my groups that I had, and we've got to play in front of six thousand people one of the vessels up there. That was pretty nerve racking. But yeah, look, generally most places, if you get you know, one hundred or a few hundred people at a pub or a bar, you know, that's that's sort of the standard for a few music. So yeah, it's pretty lucky to be part of the Crows pre game and have so many people, you know, cheering along and loving the music for the first bounce.
01:41:33
Speaker 9: We're loving having you. So thank you, Matt.
01:41:36
Speaker 4: Oh we ever, Matt, And it's gonna be great to meet your face to face on Friday. Mate, Thank you so much for agreeing We'll see you here Friday morning, Matt Summer, the Crows, lucky, charm and sex ofteners. The good news, Eve is your son is safe and sound and has made it to the top of the Nover building.
01:41:53
Speaker 2: Here in high I screen. You can tell from the panting you I've got a bring new fan appreciation for what these guys do. I got to the top and I said to the Chief, I can't imagine actually having to do anything at this point like that's ever to put out a firearm stuff that said, no need for the hose. I'd shake my head and just sweat all over them. I think they'd probably put it out. The other thing is Chief didn't even didn't even raise a sweat.
01:42:20
Speaker 8: Now years it was unbelievable.
01:42:26
Speaker 2: It's it is. There's a lot of gear, it's heavy, it's yeah, it's it's remarkable what you do, and that's it. It would all be worth it for saving something worthwhile. But look what they put up here. It's a picture of the bloody pandas I would have gone out to breakfast in stead. Unbelievable, that's just ridiculous. We're gonna make our way back down again, I think, And then I'm going up even higher in just a moment. So I trust you guys having fun and we're gonna go back down again. I'm not looking forward to this, mate. Well done. What about that?
01:42:58
Speaker 9: He's grabbed that and frame it. I'm going to frame it, take it and I'm going to put.
01:43:04
Speaker 16: It on the wall.
01:43:07
Speaker 4: So now now he's on the roof, he's going to come back down and he's going to be in in the bucket on the actual truck.
01:43:13
Speaker 2: Is he good with heights we did before? I don't know what was he like as a boy.
01:43:17
Speaker 4: Did he do adventure sports?
01:43:19
Speaker 2: He was a coward.
01:43:22
Speaker 4: Did he ever do rock climbing? School adventure program?
01:43:26
Speaker 9: We went to Disneyland. He was the only one that wouldn't go on some of the rides.
01:43:30
Speaker 2: He did have that terrible misshap on the zip at that time, didn't he do you know about that now?
01:43:36
Speaker 9: And it flipped or open something.
01:43:38
Speaker 4: Amazing that had kids after that? He did himself a terrible mischief.
01:43:43
Speaker 9: Well, yeah, but Disneyland safe as anything, and we're going on all these rides. Not will down there.
01:43:50
Speaker 4: He's probably sitting in the car park reading the Economist or something like that.
01:43:54
Speaker 9: Well, he was Prime Minister in year six at primary school. It was already there.
01:44:01
Speaker 2: Eight fifty Eve.
01:44:02
Speaker 4: We're going to be back after a short break and we will watch Will in the appliance soaring to dizzy heights, all in the name.
01:44:08
Speaker 2: Of the Andi Drive.
01:44:09
Speaker 1: It's game on at hey Yun Day with authors on you and demonstrator models. Visit you're participating Yun Day Dealer.
01:44:16
Speaker 3: Today five Double A Breakfast David Pemberthy and Eve Goodings.
01:44:23
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
01:44:23
Speaker 4: It's eight fifty three am on the five Double A Breakfast Show. I'm here with my excellent new co host Will Will Gooding's Muma Eve. There's been a coup. Will is out and Eve is in and she's often flying start.
01:44:34
Speaker 9: I'm here for agism, flying the flag, flying the flag for all women of Ay.
01:44:40
Speaker 4: That's right, great to have you here. We're going to cross back to Will now to see how your lad is going there.
01:44:46
Speaker 2: Will, How are you, mate? You are you? Are you in the appliance? Are you in the bucket? No, I'm just getting in the harness, which is it's it's a heavy enough harness that makes me realize we're in real peril. It's not one of those sort of muck around we're doing it just for show harnesses. We're going to get on board. Now Here we go. He's the father of a child, you know, the chiefs here, the chief one of these hasn't fallen over for ages, has it. That's good? That's promising. How much?
01:45:21
Speaker 9: How much are you raising for this? This is my child's life here?
01:45:27
Speaker 2: All right?
01:45:28
Speaker 18: Now?
01:45:28
Speaker 2: How do I click on? All right? Here we go? Where's the camera? There we go? You know, it's a nice bit of rain out here at the mat too. It's actually calling me off. It's excellent. Should I hold the camera? All right? I got camera mode happening here?
01:45:45
Speaker 4: Good luck made all right?
01:45:46
Speaker 2: Thank you?
01:45:47
Speaker 9: We go, little prayer for your honey.
01:45:51
Speaker 2: All right? Oh, hang on, we're on the move, all right. Here we go.
01:45:55
Speaker 7: Very experienced operating here with misstation officer care newly promoted station officer. It's only the second time he's used this piece of kids, the first experienced operator, but he is a new station officer and one of our amazing staff.
01:46:13
Speaker 2: We're coming up to about almost level three, which is no over to see them out the window?
01:46:20
Speaker 9: Maybe.
01:46:21
Speaker 2: How cool is this? You can almost hear the secrets out. Oh, there's mornings. It's Graham Goodings hilarious. Up in the window. I'm going to do a bit of a panoramic for you.
01:46:32
Speaker 11: Are that?
01:46:33
Speaker 2: Oh hell, we're getting really high now, it's just starting to get serious. Hang on, can they can they see in the studio? I can't quite. I can't quite see you through the window. They can't see because we've got the frosted glass for they would be in that window right there. Yeah, we're waving to get you.
01:46:56
Speaker 9: I'm going to put a light on.
01:46:58
Speaker 2: There's if he has prepared well for his show. This is why he's taking photos out of the balconem demo our.
01:47:04
Speaker 9: Tech any good? Can you see the light?
01:47:08
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we can see the light. The light. It's like the world's lamest concert. Oh my god, chief, how high does this thing go?
01:47:16
Speaker 7: This is actually one of our newer ones. And there are a couple of meters taller than the previous one. So, mister care the's a thirty seven or a thirty nine, forty five forty five.
01:47:31
Speaker 2: So that is the building at the very roof of Nova. Okay, over, here's the Mantra Hotel. Heineman Square now is way down there.
01:47:43
Speaker 11: Play times over?
01:47:47
Speaker 4: Oh boy, what's tricky? You're getting it up or getting it down well. As the actress said that, we was laboring the point we can.
01:48:03
Speaker 2: See the iPhone it might have blown away. So we look at the tallest buildings Nadelaide now and they don't look that far off. That is, I had no idea you could get this high. Hang on, what's going to lose the camera drop?
01:48:24
Speaker 7: It's pretty where with this we can't quite see the hills face from here because we've got a great, great view across the cityscope.
01:48:31
Speaker 2: How does that make it for people with verdigo dizzy? Oh boy, very dizzy.
01:48:36
Speaker 9: Don't need verdigo. I wouldn't do it well.
01:48:40
Speaker 4: Well and big thanks to the MFS. Jeff to you chief, big round in the sim Yeah, absolutely brilliant.
01:48:52
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 4: Now we've got Paul Barton from sky City who is the head of food and Bredbridge, just to wrap things up today for the show. Because if we announced yesterday that the excellent Guardsman coffee down at the railway station they are giving away coffees before eleven am today, all proceeds from coffee sold there will go straight to the Undy Drive.
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Speaker 2: Paul.
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Speaker 4: We can't thank you enough mate. It's a terrific it's a terrific act on your part.
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Speaker 26: Yeah, no, absolutely, you know it's something we've been sort of behind for a few years now. It's a really important initiative you guys are put together, so you know, we're more than happy to support it. So hopefully we get some more people down between seven and eleven today and we can get it get as much as we can into you guys to help out.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 9: The weather's certainly making an enticing to come down to see you, to grab that hot cup.
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Speaker 2: Of coffee and helping a pretty ordary.
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Speaker 4: Good on your Paul, Thank you so much, Paul Barton from Sky City, head of Food and Beverage. Now, Eve, you said goodbye to your son, you now get to say hello to your husband because he's in there.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's in the production booth.
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Speaker 9: Thanks for letting me come in too. Here great today with your idea of taking half an hour, and it took me forty five minutes and a pultating heart, but we got here.
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Speaker 2: Do you give you a doud driving interaction?
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Speaker 25: You know what?
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Speaker 9: Seriously, the man I said, what's the name of the street. I don't know. You just turned before Poulteney, and then I said, what about is it Curry Street? And he goes, no, you go around home that square whatever, that hurdle thing is down there, and then you turn down way that street? Is that waymouth? I don't know just how much time should I allow? Half an hour?
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Speaker 2: Say home?
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Speaker 9: You should have told me in the right time. You're silly, old baby.
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Speaker 2: You don't go through right through red lights.
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Speaker 9: I didn't a red light.
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Speaker 4: It made you first for the five double Breakfast show Alive Ondio domestic.
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Speaker 2: I don't allow for putting on makeup when I come into work.
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Speaker 9: You know what, you get rung first thing in the morning, and you know I'm not a young woman, and and what I do. I can't come in not made up? Mind you? Look how I look?
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Speaker 23: Here?
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Speaker 9: Looks it's not good.
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Speaker 2: Some speechless.
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Speaker 9: Okay, that's good because you're going to talk for the next three hours.
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Speaker 2: I am so sad that.
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Speaker 4: We're out of time because this could have gone on all morning.
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Speaker 2: Eve. Lovely to see you again. Catch up?
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Speaker 9: Yeah I did too. Yeah you final will be our next one.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, hopefully we should do this again sometime.
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Speaker 2: We should actually yeah, just move well out.
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Speaker 4: Well, I think he's got a bit of a few days off, unscheduled days off coming up.
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Speaker 2: Do you want to do it? Yeah, I do it, but we should do it. I'll do it. I'm clearly not very good at anngry.
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Speaker 9: Craig doesn't hear any of this.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's take this offline. It's running away otherwise the news because Graham.
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Speaker 4: Will be late and then there will be another domestic David
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Speaker 5: Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast
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Speaker 3: Today live from Heinmarsh Square. It's five double A Breakfast. David Penburbe and Will Goodings not.
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Speaker 2: After Seex Good morning, tell you and welcome to Wednesday on five Double A Breakfast, Day three of the Undy Drive. Who knows what's in store this morning? I can tell you a couple of the news items that are things that we will be talking about. Sean fused to put it best this morning, it's possibly and in fact likely the case that a serial killer has never been let out on parole. Well, congratulations South Australia. We may have a first James Philosakas a parole application was upheld, was accepted yesterday and there is sixty days for the government to appeal. We'll be chatting with the Attorney General trying to get a sense of whether that is on the agenda or not after seven o'clock today. So that's a big story. Seawan Fusta will join us too. We'll go around the courts with Sean David Kosh on the show Travis Boke, where does he fit in the old time on the totem pole of Port Adelaide. Greatness, he's pretty close to the top. Announced his retirement yesterday. We'll talk to Koshi about about Boky sailing off into the sunset, and then a little bit later in the morning, I can tell you some feverish work, David Penberthy has been done behind the scenes to put together your band with the Essay Police Band, which of course you're the frontman. Graham Corns is the lead guitarist. You've got a police band behind you with the bulk there. But and we want you to continue with your suggestions, folks, eight double two three double double O Texas on zero zero eight thirty ninety five. We continue to get listeners' ideas that come in and each seems better than the last. And I know a lot of work has been done to try and make some of that possible. So keep your suggestions coming through because you just never know who might get in the band. David, good morning to you, Good.
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Speaker 4: Morning Will, Good morning listeners. There's no front man in this band. This band is an ensemble. It's saying who's the lead singer of the Beatles. You know, there's no there's no there was no lead singer. There's gonna be a whole bunch of George. It wasn't him, well it was, it wasn't George. George could sing George. Yeah, they even gave Ringo the odd opportunity such hits as Octopus's Garden. But yeah, no, some really really exciting news about the band today. Someone who well, my, I've heard rumors, unlet's you.
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Speaker 2: I'll leave it at that.
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Speaker 4: I've heard rumors that someone who, unlike me, is possessed of genuine musical talent might be getting involved. Now the more the merrier, Yes, I say, yeah. And I don't know if I've had confirmation yet about Grant Stevens being involved.
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Speaker 2: What is he got cold feet? Well, cold said?
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Speaker 4: He said he's played the Triangle before. Uh, hopefully, hopefully that is an indication.
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Speaker 2: I think that's it. That's like when you know you mate to looking for someone to fill in on a social sports team and they say, and you go, ah, I played a bit in the past. That's yeah, you want to play.
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Speaker 4: At that point, find out they played two eighty games. Yeah, that's a sign that you wanted you want in. He's a training yellow veteran he is, that's for sure a triangulist. You've suffered a fair bit already.
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Speaker 2: Well more on the way, if we get more. I'm not sure how much we need or where we're at, but we're a few thousand away from I don't know what am I doing, So starting in the basement, dressing up like a fireman, scaling to the roof of the building here, and then then I'm going up one of those cherry pick of things they've got. How do you go with heights? We're about to find out, aren't we.
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Speaker 4: It's gonna be fun, world's first on air anxiety attack.
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Speaker 2: I might have had may have had a heart attack by the time we get to the top of the building. It might be a full fledged rescue by the time we get to that point.
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Speaker 4: Remember that day, what was it, last year of the year before, when the powers out here weren't working, that's right, And we came in and I came in, you know, as usual, just in the nick of time, only to find that I had had literally run up.
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Speaker 2: Five flights of stairs. It's not dumb.
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Speaker 4: Its kicking the morning off of a live read at six oh five a m. Having done more Cardio and the previous seven minutes than I'd done in the previous seven months.
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Speaker 2: But this was Sarka's business.
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Speaker 4: My god, I just the more I think about it, and to your point, where we are a state of first you know within Australia, female suffrage, yes, a homosexual law reform, native title ol Fresco dining and letting out people who've taken part in gang murders and left them for dead in barrels full of acid. When you actually think about it, it is actually think it's intellectually preposterous to be having a conversation about whether this is the right or the wrong thing to do.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's about you praise it like that because when we spoke to Jeremy Pudney, yes the day, one of the initial reporters he's written a book about, I said to him, I know, intellectually you knew this day might come, but it feels surreal trying to play on the fact that as a court reporter he knows enough about the process to know this was a possibility, but as a human being does it just feel fundamentally wrong? And I think what the feels completely wrong?
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Speaker 4: The law needs a phrase in Latin which translates as your e F and kidden. Aren't you where the moment someone says and look, we're just going through a list of people who might be coming up for parole.
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Speaker 2: James vosakas one of the Snowtown killers.
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Speaker 4: At that point, everyone in the law goes nully, QUI vongolais w TF, however you say that in Latin? What idiots proposing this? That maybe that should be the Latin phrase idiota proponum estum, that would be something is que idiota proponam es? What idiots proposing this? That's the Latin phrase were after? Because I just think it's absurd. And you know the other thing, I received an email years ago and I lost it and excuse me, I got a bit of a cold, and to this day I wish i'd replied to the person and the email address that I had no longer works. But it was from a young woman who's now probably an older woman like me, older man. It is, haven't transitioned overnight, folks uster should. But anyway, she told me this story. She worked with one of the Satowan victims that Harris scarves in the basement, and she just said, I just because I've written a.
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Speaker 2: Piece about the Snowtown Man.
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Speaker 4: I've interviewed the director, Jason Kurtzel, and she said, I'm not really getting in contact with you for any other reason than to say he just struck me as a really nice person. And we worked together in like the it was the camping area downstairs with rucksacks and bags, and she worked with him part time, and she said he was pretty quiet, but he was kind of funny when and get to know him in a nice way. He had a good sense of humor. He was applying himself really hard at his job, and then he just sort of vanished, and I thought, I wonder whatever happened to him? And then I was reading the paper and I went, Wow, he's one of the people that the Snowtown killers got. And I just thought, these people have become ciphers or faceless. Nothing's the victims. They're just they're in the battle.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're totally irrelevant, aren't they them.
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Speaker 4: Have dismissed his total weirdos as cross dresser. There's someone who's the step brother of the step mum of the.
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Speaker 2: Whoever.
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Speaker 4: People being killed by their own half brothers or whatever. It's almost like this world is so distant that it's been dehumanized. And that email about this boy in Harris scarves with his job, I thought, well, that's actually that the first time I've actually thought of one of these people as a human being. And that's what this whole parole process is an insult to you completely. You know all about Jamie.
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Speaker 2: It also and we'll take a break in a moment, get this some news headlines. I'm going to think about it every single time. We try to valiantly and our listeners valiantly push back against a system that sees the vast majority of petty crime happen committed by people who have previously committed the crime, sometimes as recently as a week ago. And I'm going to forever think why argue against that in the jurisdiction that allows serial killers out?
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Speaker 4: Like, how are you thinking about the woman who drank the entire cask of wine last week? You drave into the cops and didn't do any jail time. Yep, Yeah, like I saved that stud.
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Speaker 2: I kind of feel like, now, why argue about that? Because we are in the place where serial killers get a second chance? Yeah, Like, what chance do we have of making mounting an argument that this is which we have done for I feel like it's official defeat. This is the goal that has Rex Hunt and the Fat Lady singing the argument that we should we should be so kind on these people committing Betty crime. We're letting out a serial killer. Yeah, that's how we do That's how we do crime here in South Australia. It's amazing, It's ridiculous. Seventeen after seven news headlines David.
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Speaker 5: Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Twenty one minutes after six looking for members of David's police band. He's in it. We think the police commissions in it. Graham Korn's is the lead guitarist in it. David Alberton, He's on the line, Dave. Who else should be in the band?
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Speaker 6: Well, good morning guys. You familiar with the Saturday Night Lives group, the team in the US there familiar? Probably familiar with the Will Ferrell skip where Christopher Walken has a desire for more cow bell that skip. Well, we've got one problem solver here in the state who manages to identify a problem and fix a problem. Premier malanowskas we need more cow bell.
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Speaker 2: Get the premier on the care. I like that.
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Speaker 4: Oh yes, the Bruce Dickinson Blue Oysters, don't the Reaper.
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Speaker 7: Reaper.
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Speaker 2: That is a great. That is a brilliant idea. Dave kept coming into zero eight thirteen ninety five. He continue to get texts from people with with suggestions as well. Some of them some of them I think won't be able to happen. Some would be. FITZI got a nomination from from a listener. Finzi could get Stephen Rowe.
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Speaker 4: Nomination of the Musical Talent given the part time radio broadcast, a full time football legend, but also part time impresario as the operator of Nice Day to Go to the Club. Yes, get all sorts of musics lined up.
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Speaker 2: The premier we just heard from Dave. I love this one that that's just come through. The sixophonist who plays at Crow's games. Oh that is a great. How goods that has an idea outside the box idea. Don't know what his availability is. No game on Friday morning. You know the Crows haven't lost since undefeat as he played.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good oman A long game, big well because it was a gather round game and the AFL controlled it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you to Danny L. Scott, who's donated two one hundred three hundred dollars in fact cracking stut the morning five double any Drive dot com dot au is the place to go. We're doing it all of course for Catherine House and Haut Street Sander and we went and paid them a visit just last week and got to meet some of the wonderful people that make these organizations tick, like Terrese who is a caseworker at Catherine House. The UNDI Drive is all about raising as much money as we possibly can for a wonderful charity like Catherine House, but one of the things we like to do over the course of the week is meet the people that provide the service, and one of those who's with us right now is to raise There's good morning to you, good morning, How are you going well? What drew you to Catherine House? And when? How how long have you been involved?
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Speaker 8: I've been here not quite telve months. So I previously worked at different homelessness services within the alliances and be moved around and just love working in the industry, love helping people out and love providing service.
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Speaker 2: How is Catherine House different from those other places you've worked before.
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Speaker 8: I suppose it's probably the first time I've worked in a residential typesetting. I work in the crisis, the emergency accommodation service. Here, we see a lot of women come in that you know, have nowhere.
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Speaker 2: Else to go.
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Speaker 8: This is their home, this is we try and provide them, you know, a dignified service, Try and show respect to these women, you know where they're all going through a really difficult time.
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Speaker 2: What do you reckon the biggest misconception is that people externally would have about the kind of women that present to a charity like Catherine House.
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Speaker 8: Obviously, you know, everyone has that idea that you know, the homeless people, what the homeless people look like, and you know, we all have to be honest that we're all only a couple of pays away from being homeless at the moment. With the housing crisis that's been going on, things have changed. The homelessness sector has changed completely, and you know, anyone could be homeless at any time.
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Speaker 2: It's a good point. It must be remarkable rewarding to take someone from that point of being a total desperation and then housing them for a period and then potentially seeing them move on.
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Speaker 9: It is, but I don't think.
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Speaker 8: I think it's more rewarding to see them and the joy for them that they've made it through to that point. I mean, obviously we're just you know, providing the service. It's up to the people. It's up to the person the women that we work with to actually get themselves there. I think we're just providing those steps, and the women that are here they want that. I mean, we all want to live a dignified, loyal life, and I think that we should be trying to provide that to them.
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Speaker 2: You do, and you do a wonderful job. Grace. Thanks for joining us on five double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 8: Thanks so much.
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Speaker 2: I love those visits. You're gonna hear more from them. I mean, we're in the kitchen at hut Street Center. We're meeting people that work out the front at Catherine House, people that work behind the scenes there. We met clients people that can't don't want to be identified because of the sensitivity of their personal situation, but they wanted to still somehow find a way to talk about what these organizations meant for them life. Yeah, so you're gonna hear more about that over the course of the next three days of the UNDI drivers. We build up the Friday because we want your donations. Thank you to Lee who's just chipped in one hundred bucks five double any drive dot com dot Are you what we do need, David, he's some big corporates to come on board. Yeah, we're still we're still waiting for san Jeeva to call. We've promised that the slate is clean.
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Speaker 4: I mean, it seems like the least you can do, san Jeeve, if you're listening, given that the state and federal government's combined have contributed two point three billion.
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Speaker 2: Dollars kicking five grandy under drive.
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Speaker 4: I mean we're not saying you need to match that, Ahount. No, imagine if you did, that would really that would change the game for Catherine House in Hudson, that would probably fix the homelessness crisis. Was the sad thing is you probably can't. You can't fix it with money. I don't think no, because so many of the drivers of it, as we know from particularly the case of Catherine House, just shocking behavior. I'm a part of portrayers clearly the film referring to their yes male for portrayers are violence. But yes, and just even if you gave us ten percent of that amount.
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Speaker 2: We all would be forgotten, all forgiven Team Sanjeev. We'd become.
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Speaker 4: What I used to do well were branded GfG clothing on air.
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Speaker 2: Will be five double GfG ten degrees outside of the city at the moment top of fifteen today, one to six mills of rain on the way, so it might be a little bit wet out there Tomorrow fifteen and dry cool, but dry so too for Friday, exactly the same forecast really Saturday, sixteen, Sunday nineteen, warming up for what should be a pleasant weekend, twenty on Monday and sixteen on Tuesday. Oh my goodness, what's that big here? Tom reds to the studio and he's he's got a wig on.
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Speaker 10: Well, I've always wanted a bit of hair, to be honestly, to not have to take the hair pills.
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Speaker 2: But go, good hair, haven't you talk?
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Speaker 10: It's okay, it's thinning, really.
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Speaker 2: Get you you with the Dolly partner and gives you a sort of eighties rocker vibe. Is a bit early John Farnam about that.
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Speaker 9: Yes, well, speaking of which I think I'm going to be playing in the band.
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Speaker 11: Yes, I think, yeah, that is awesome, But.
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Speaker 2: Can you see.
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Speaker 10: Well, we've done karaoke before, I think, haven't we?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys have, I swear I've seen that. Yeah, we did. Maybe it was the time we went and Will was there, but then the power out that was early I reagon Will unplugged it.
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Speaker 11: I think I think we.
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Speaker 10: Did that song, What's the Hill? It's the one running up the hill, Kate Bush, cap Bush, the other one that cap Bush, Wondering Heights, Wathering Windy Moore.
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Speaker 2: We did do that. You had a temper like jealous ready Now nothing happened to the only drip for free. We're clear about this. If you aren't ready to be in the band, and you do have musical talent, Tom wren Well, I can play the trumpet potentially, and you can sing eight double two to three double oh for more suggestions. But anyone you suggest you need to donate to get it to happen. So let's get some donations coming in before six thirty to confirm that t Ran will be in the Police Band come Friday morning, wearing that wig.
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Speaker 10: You did such a great job yesterday, Will that we're going to keep it going. We're going to ride that momentum through so we're going to do it and keep it going for Friday with the band. But let's talk a little bit of football for a moment. Travis Boke, what a career, three hundred and eighty four games. Hopefully he'll get another three. He spoke about what he's going to miss the most once he hangs up the boots officially, let's have a bit of a listen to what he had to say with regards to all of that.
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Speaker 12: I think the memories that you create through the hard times the good times, coming in the rooms after the wins and losses and sharing those moments with your teammates, they create the bonds and the friendships that you'll treasure forever.
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Speaker 10: Seventh on the all time list, three hundred and eighty seven games.
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Speaker 11: Great career.
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Speaker 10: I mean he missed out clearly on the premiership at a time when the club was on its knees.
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Speaker 11: I remember vividly. You know, he was courted by Geelong, you know, to go back. I stuck with them.
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Speaker 2: This is going to sound overly romantic and perhaps stupid of a lot of footy fans. He didn't get the premiership, but I think his contribution to the club is actually greater than what Ariship in isolation would have been him at that moment. Choosing to stay that felt like an existential crisis.
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Speaker 11: It was huge, wasn't it.
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Speaker 4: So he was captain straight up to CASSISI yeah, I think that's right.
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Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah.
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Speaker 11: And that was when they had the tarts and you know it was writing.
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Speaker 2: There were columns in the paper about they're gonna have to move.
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Speaker 4: It was when they got done by g w S second win.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, it was almost the beginning of the end.
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Speaker 2: He'd been the guy going I'm the one. I might be the one commodity that anyone wants to this club, and I've got strong pool to go in, but I'm going to stay. Him committing that's that's a that's a that's a contribution to that footy club that I reckon is greater than a premiership.
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Speaker 4: He should be remembered too for all the amazing charity work that he did for cancer kids with can.
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Speaker 2: He said he lost his own father really young.
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Speaker 11: He did just before he was drafted. He'd lost him.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, so he can And so that was one of the other reasons, you know that he was being sort of pulled to come home, but he stayed so port fans will have two opportunities to seehimt Adelaide Oval and play a final game if you like this week and then against Gold Coast in the final week.
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Speaker 11: Big Week of or Big Day of Football.
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Speaker 10: Simon Goodwin our early contenders, Nathan Buckley and perhaps John long Wire are the early contenders to be the Melbourne coach for next season.
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Speaker 2: Glad Doors heading Strength, Style and Safety. Do a home gliderol dot com today. Yes, it feels like three am at the s years ago. I might get another Bacardi Breezer. Big Fleets.
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Speaker 5: David Penberthy and Will Goodis five double A breaks twenty.
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Speaker 4: Well, yesterday morning we caught up with the Energy Minister Tom Keotstanis about the predicament near Star.
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Speaker 2: The smelter in Port Piri.
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Speaker 4: It sounds for months that it's been living on borrow time, largely on account of the nefarious practices by China in global economic markets when it comes to these sorts of commodities. Tim Ayres, who's the Federal Minister for Industry and Innovation, he was in Port Piriri yesterday with the Premier and the Energy Minister to unveil a joint package between South Australia and the Commonwealth and also Tasmania which is affected by this as well. And we have the Minister on the line now, Good morning, mister Ayres, thanks for joining us. Can you walk us through what the what the intent of this package is, what's going to change because it's a lot of money, isn't it.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, it is, Kay Fellow's good to be on the show. It's a one hundred and thirty five million dollar package, so it's a substantial contribution to the beginning of what is a two year feasibility phase for Port Pieri and for the Hobart Newstar smelter, and that's designed to do two things. One is to make a bunch of improvements to the facility to make it more efficient, more capable. But secondly and most importantly for the future of that site and for Australia's national interest to build their capability to turn critical minerals that are a byproduct of the lead smelter process into critical metals, moving up the value chain for Australia and contributing to vital international supply chains, particularly in the defense sector, but also in computer chips, battery storage, new technologies. These critical minerals, Australia has them in large volumes. Our objective is part of Future Made in Australia, is to make sure we're manufacturing those minerals here and turning them into high value products.
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Speaker 2: So, I mean, it's just looking at some of the language being used in this feasibility study. Is a pilot plant that's been talked about. There's obviously some a huge amount of risk with regard to spending this much money when we don't even know whether they can they can produce this at scale and commercially. Isn't that.
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Speaker 13: I just make say two things about that. Firstly, I was there yesterday when they were making antimony on site. Their plan is to get to make five thousand tons a year of antimony. It's a byproduct of the lead manufacturing process or lead smelting process. It's vital for the defense industry. Their plan is then to step that up to fifteen thousand tons per year. That would be forty percent of the United States's total consumption of antimity. So it's a you know, it's consumed in very small quantities. Just to give you a sense of the scale of this, that is, just moving to that level of production would make a very substantial contribution. So that's good for the economics of that facility, good for South Australia, but good for our economic resilience and strategic interest. Second thing I'd say about the risk question is, you know, you could take the no risk approach and the facility may well close. But we're fighting for the future here jointly in lockstep with the Malinowskis government, working with the firm who are stepping up to the plate as well. They will continue to sustain some losses over this period. If the markets stay in the same shape that they are, they will make investments as well. So the business, the two levels of government, the Albaneze government, the Malanowskis government, the workers and the unions and the local community or committed to this all pitching in the alternative is we just let these things run through our fingers, and I'm not prepared to do that. Anthony Alberdez is not prepared to do that, and Peeder mal Aanaskis isn't prepared to do it either.
00:25:15
Speaker 4: Isn't there rislo that it becomes a car industry situation where we end up just throwing when I was certainly not trying to sound ungrateful here, but there are precedents where industries that can't stand on their own two feet in the private sector, we just end up throwing public money at them. Do you think that there could be more money required down the track.
00:25:34
Speaker 13: Well, I'm old fashioned enough to believe that it was a terrible thing that the Abbot government allowed the car industry to go offshore. We lost an incredible amount of industrial capability, economic resilience, skills, management capability that were absolutely vital for the rest of Australian manufacturing. I suppose that's spilt milk now, but I really do Bristol people say, oh, well that was that was that was inevitable. It wasn't inevitable in terms of this sector. Well, they are not selling into a into a normal market. It is not a level playing field.
00:26:16
Speaker 2: Okay, well on that part and with China.
00:26:19
Speaker 13: It's got it's got strategic value for Australia.
00:26:22
Speaker 2: What are we doing? What are we doing? And what are we doing?
00:26:24
Speaker 4: And with the mckill report made of playing that China is the chief cause of the problem here do you you sit with a guy on cabinet?
00:26:31
Speaker 2: Did Albou raise this with Ji Jinping three weeks ago?
00:26:35
Speaker 4: Or is the taxpayer the solution to Chinese belligerents on the world economic stage?
00:26:39
Speaker 13: Well, every every lever at our disposal that that is of course these issues are raised directly, not just bilaterally with with the government of China. But you know, I've participated in global steel supply chain efforts to make sure that there is you know that the pressure is on for more transparency, for normal trade rules to apply. Uh And the truth is in and the truth is that there is there are very significant subsidies and non market practices in China, but they are also that they are not the only economy around the world that is engaging in that behavior. So diplomacy and effort abroad, but here in Australia we have to attend to building the competitiveness of our sectors, and in my view and the Government's view, where there is a strategic interest engaged to you, we need to step up the plate to work with the private sector, work with workers and their unions to deliver a better outcome that the long term, absent those non market practices, Port Pierri and Hobart would be profitable today. That's that's the truth of it. Now. Now there is a good medium term future for that business. We've committed to working with them to make sure that we can back that investment in critical minerals processing capability, but also improving the productivity of their broader operation. I think it's a good thing for the Port Pirie community, it's good for South Australia, but it's really important for Australia's economic resilience in our national industrial capability.
00:28:25
Speaker 4: Jim Ayer is the Federal Minister for Industry and Innovation. Could you also pass a message onto Murray Watt for us the Environment Minister, that our algill boym is still going. It's still going really badly and it is still in our view a natural disaster and should be declared as such.
00:28:41
Speaker 2: Thank you for your time, Minister.
00:28:43
Speaker 13: Thanks Fellers.
00:28:46
Speaker 4: Not thought worth mentioning. Yeah, Rosanna Manngerelli's written a great column Stavery Lines in the ties of This Morning, and here I was thinking, you know, she's a great singer, Well this is it, but as a column writer, tell you what, she's much better than Dolly Parton ever.
00:29:04
Speaker 2: Was a big special we've got on seven tonight, actually after the news, we're doing a thirty minute special on the alko bloom crisis that's going to be made here in South Australia, which is going to be powered by listeners. It's going to have viewers. It's going to be a bit like what we do here on radio. There's going to be people on site at surf clubs. There's going to be people who set in social media questions as well. And I've had a look at some of the stuff that's going to be on tonight and it's great because I think it's it goes to some of the non political elements of this. There's a we have to live with this element of this that I think we've kind of explored, but not in the way that we're going to tonight. So this isn't about the recriminations of who did what, and when this is about what if you live near the beach and your child has asthma? What about when your pets get sick? What does it mean for catching fish as a recfisher as opposed to being a commercial Like there's some of these just we have to live with this now, stuff that's not political that we're going get into in the special tonight. So I think it's immediately after set the Channel seven News at six o'clock, six at seven o'clock it'll be on a half hour special where I like to think a lot of those questions about well, unfortunately this is our reality are going to be answered. The Premier is going to be on the panel. We going environmental scientists. We've got doctor Nicholas Buria as well. So it's going to be I think, really really interesting, sounds terrific. All right, thirteen to seven that's tonight, a little bit later this morning, as so long as the donations continue to come in they have thus far, I'm disappearing not up the chimney, but up the what the the firoroscopey, you know, I'm disappearing up the staircase here at five double A, dressed entirely as a fireman with the mfs, all the gear on oxygen canisters, you name it, ways about twenty kilos. Sounds great.
00:30:52
Speaker 4: I've had a look at that gear, and yeah, I think I think sportsman should keep oh good goodness, a good hour or are you tomorrow?
00:31:00
Speaker 2: For you? They should donate thousands, and I was the only drugs. They'll get it back.
00:31:03
Speaker 4: Well, we need we need more donations because we have not yet reached our mark for will to become a fireman. So any businesses, any corporates, if you call in and donate, you get the biggest shout in history.
00:31:15
Speaker 2: I just looked at the rundown though, and it says will steps out at eight fifteen. So at eight fifteen this morning, I disappear to do this, which I don't know what the situation that leaves you in. You've never paneled before, have you?
00:31:26
Speaker 4: No, I don't know how any of the buttons work.
00:31:29
Speaker 2: Well, you can't sit here and talk to yourself, can I just assumably there's been some meeting about this, not one that I've been involved with. Well, let's have it now, John A, you're the mastermind of the UNDI drive. Come in, please, let's find out when the next happening. What's going on? Because I don't know how to I do not know how to panel, as they say, no herb to panel in radio means to control the big mixing desks. So there looking like you know Brian Wilson in the Love and Mercy video. John, Oh, good morning, only more confused.
00:31:55
Speaker 11: Good morning.
00:31:56
Speaker 14: Congratulations on everything you've done so far. We need donations, that's about you're doing it. Look, this is a problem. Pat and I have conferred. We've spoken to the big boss and we're going to do what every media organization does when they have a crisis and call the Goodings family. Now, two of them already work here, so that's a bit.
00:32:20
Speaker 2: Doesn't really work. Yeah, we got forty percent of them in the building. What's your mum up to this morning? Well she's not an early risers, so good luck with that. Oh I love this lady Eve Goodings. Well, Well, you know did host a show on five double a meny many many many years ago.
00:32:38
Speaker 4: And doesn't she still do community radio up in the hills or something.
00:32:42
Speaker 2: She did for a long time. Yeah, so she hasn't done it recently, might be a bit rusty.
00:32:46
Speaker 14: All right, Well, we're going to put the phone call in now, try to make it happen before we go.
00:32:49
Speaker 11: To the break.
00:32:50
Speaker 14: But put on your most sympathetic We're going to need donations to make it happen. She won't get out of bed for nothing.
00:32:55
Speaker 4: Let's get Will's mum to host the show with me for the final hour of the program today.
00:33:00
Speaker 2: Every development these things get worse for me.
00:33:03
Speaker 4: Is the way I say, I love the idea of having wolves Mum on the show so that I can get the get the full story about wives adolescence thousand was the most trouble he ever got into.
00:33:13
Speaker 2: Cause your find how lame I really am?
00:33:15
Speaker 4: What was the drunkest he ever was?
00:33:19
Speaker 14: If you donate now, you could win a Smeg appliance as well.
00:33:22
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right, every every, every single donation twenty dollars and we'll puts you in the running. Win a Smeg cattle that we in fact a toaster sorry thanks to Smeg, that we're giving away at seven o'clock today. Oh boy, I don't envy johnn I for making that call this hour of the morning. Let's check traffic. Enjoy your outdoor area all year around with an enclosing roof design. Matter of factur have been stalled locally by Loubause, David.
00:33:43
Speaker 5: Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast.
00:33:46
Speaker 2: Things are happening behind the scenes. We're getting calls from all sorts of sectors in South Australia that want to contribute to the five to blaw Undy Drive. Get it early, because when when when all the donations come late and we're trying to spread the love around, there's just smaller pieces of the pie. That's the nature of it. Actually get donating today. If you're a business and you get a whole lot of love for your donation, the earlier you get in, the more plugs you get.
00:34:10
Speaker 4: And if you donate, you know, one thousand dollars at six oh five am, we might talk about you for half an hour exactly right, And if that was a live read, it cost you a million dollars.
00:34:21
Speaker 2: Dot com dot you have about that inflation. Let's talk about the weather. Daniel Sherwin Simpson on Juty at the Weather Bureau. Daniel, good morning to you. Another mile day on the way, Yeah.
00:34:30
Speaker 15: Another mile day. There's a couple of showers about that you can see coming up from the Spencer Gulf on the radar so it's going to be a little bit wet through the morning that things are going to settle out. Once these shells clear, probably in the late morning, we should see it clear out and should be mostly dry from the afternoon onwards on. From a maximum of fifteen today and then it's a bit of a repeat over the next couple of days. We've got a fifteen, fifteen and sixteen for Thursday, Friday and Saturday, warming up for the weekend. On Sunday we've got nineteen and then twenty possibly on Monday. Well settle conditions and then near warming up ahead of a week cold front coming through early next week.
00:35:07
Speaker 2: It's gonna be lovely weather on Sunday. Sounds terrific. Go on you, Daniel, thank you all right, let's say to say I'll seeing Constable Kimberly broads on the line. Kimberly. A man's been arrested after a pursuit that ended up Port Adelaide just after midnight.
00:35:18
Speaker 16: Yeah, that's right. Police attempted to stop a Holden station wagon. It was on Nelson Avenue at Flinders Park, but the driver refused to pull over, so we followed the vehicle through backstreets into findon out onto Port Road. These vehicles tires were eventually spiked on Grand Junction Road as it was heading towards the Port Adelaide and it came to a stop on Commercial Road where the driver was arrested. So a forty three year old man from Smithfield Planes. He's been charged with engaging in a police pursuit and unrelated death matters. His vehicle's been impounded and he'll be appearing in the Port Adelaid Magistrates Court in September.
00:35:56
Speaker 4: Kimberly also police investigating a crash at Vale Park to midnight.
00:36:01
Speaker 15: Yeah.
00:36:01
Speaker 16: This occurred on Ascott Avenue. Police arrived quickly, locating a Mercedes Sedan along with its driver and passenger who were out of the car and thankfully were uninjured. They did take out a light pole which fell across the road, causing some traffic disruptions as well. But the driver was a thirty three year old man from Valley View. He allegedly returned a positive result had when he had an initial roadside alcohol test, but he was conveyed hospital where that further mandatory blood sample will be taken for drug and alcohol testing. So investigations into the crash are ongoing. We're just asking if anybody witnessed it or they have any further information, if they can give us a call on the crimes top is number one eight hundred trip or three triples zero.
00:36:50
Speaker 4: Thanks for that, Kimberly Sen. You comes to Kimblely Broad from Stapole.
00:36:53
Speaker 2: Well, a miracle of all miracles. My mother's awake, as it turns out, Mum, good morning to you.
00:37:00
Speaker 17: I'm only just awake, Thank you very much.
00:37:02
Speaker 18: Real good in.
00:37:03
Speaker 2: I told him there'd be no chance of you up at this hour of the morning unless you haven't gone to bed yet.
00:37:08
Speaker 17: Well, those days I have gone a few years ago. Will you know that mother doesn't do those things anymore? So why are you ringing me?
00:37:17
Speaker 9: Honey?
00:37:19
Speaker 2: Well, we need you to be in about two hours time because I'm potentially going to die in a stunt for the under Drive and we need someone to host the show.
00:37:30
Speaker 17: Okay, so let's just go back to you're going to die. So is this a stupid idea of you being at a fireman?
00:37:38
Speaker 11: Yes?
00:37:39
Speaker 4: Yes, stupid is well put you can have a front row seat for a day.
00:37:43
Speaker 17: Well, I'd like to talk to the gentleman who came up with.
00:37:47
Speaker 2: This idea, Jonathan Edwards, you can spend a bit of time chatting with you.
00:37:50
Speaker 17: Well, John is going to have a conversation with your mother. So your back is not good and I didn't like it. And that's photo of you in that that didn't look too bad.
00:37:59
Speaker 2: Actually I thought that was I thought that looked pretty good as well on the old social.
00:38:06
Speaker 17: Media you want, honey, what what am I doing?
00:38:09
Speaker 2: You're gonna sit here and chat with David after eight o'clock because I need to go and get my fireman outfit on. You're going to host the show Eve, Oh pen.
00:38:17
Speaker 17: I've been dying to do that with you.
00:38:22
Speaker 4: Believe I've been looking forward to doing it with you because you've got a bit of radio background to you.
00:38:28
Speaker 17: Oh wow, this is good alright.
00:38:32
Speaker 4: I have a few questions for you too about Wil's adolescence. I want to hear a bit about it.
00:38:38
Speaker 17: He was a good kid, now if there hadn't been the other one.
00:38:43
Speaker 4: I sat next to Sam, the other one at the foot of the other night.
00:38:46
Speaker 9: Is he not?
00:38:47
Speaker 18: That kid? Is just so cool?
00:38:49
Speaker 17: He's a lovely boy.
00:38:50
Speaker 2: Has to stick from who the cool one? Thanks Mum? Not old Nordling here.
00:39:00
Speaker 17: I know Sammy has always been a.
00:39:04
Speaker 13: Right.
00:39:05
Speaker 4: We're out of time through the whole family for this, this edition of Sassination. It's gonna be great fun, all right.
00:39:10
Speaker 2: Come in, it will be fun.
00:39:11
Speaker 17: But you surely need another bloody Oh oh I swore then, Oh, I'm so sorry another Goodings on air. Oh my goodness, that's what happens when you wake up an old woman.
00:39:21
Speaker 2: All right, we'll see here after. It is good. This is exciting. How did these things keep getting worse for me? I'm not sure. Anyway, that's coming up after eight o'clock today, we're going to take a break five double A news is covering up. We're going a very excited development. Sometimes some things happen in the under drive that are beyond our control because people get on board that we didn't see coming. We're going to talk about one such instance right after this David.
00:39:46
Speaker 5: Penberthy and Will Goodings five double A breakfast.
00:39:50
Speaker 2: But it's after see theven Honey drive is kicking into gear this morning. We had a raffle on the first hour. Everyone a donate twenty dollars or more was in the running to win a Smeg toaster. We're giving that to Robert who donated fifty dollars just a short time ago, but big thanks to Robert and Christopher and Danny l and Hugh and Chris and so many more that I can't get to that have donated money above that twenty dollars threshold. What we're doing to keep that momentum going. And we like to democratize the undie drive. It's not just about the big businesses that kick in thousands of dollars, like the Guardsmen and the Sky City and like McGahan and others. We love these raffles. And so we've got another one this hour tickets for you and three friends to get along and see port Frio in the five double a locker room. Oh wow, now these tickets are worse. That's this Saturday night. That's right, Saturday and Saturday night at the locker.
00:40:38
Speaker 4: It's going to be awesome weather. That'd be so much fun.
00:40:40
Speaker 2: Gets your reserve sitting in the Riverbank stand level one, pregame dinner and we'll bake you be playing halftime about yeah, halftime, Baufer's Footy Fair and mini desserts and a five hour drinks package if you don't mind. All you need to do is make a donation above ten bucks this hour and you go in the running. That's locker room tickets are hundreds and hundreds of dollars. Yeah, this is a huge prize. That is a massive prize. There's no better way to see the footy.
00:41:04
Speaker 4: The other thing that we will throw in two folks as part of this prize package, and we all know that Will in about an hour's time is going to be making his debut as a MFS firefighter. Well, I've taken the liberty of preparing a Will Woodings themed firefighters calendar.
00:41:28
Speaker 2: I'll hold it up for the better for the live stream. You spared no expense making that, that's right.
00:41:33
Speaker 4: So what we've done, we've got a picture one of those wonderful beefcake calendars.
00:41:38
Speaker 2: I don't know how he convinced me to take my shirt off.
00:41:41
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what if you thought Tom Ren looked good without his shirt off on the Today Show, that's what it's like.
00:41:46
Speaker 2: I haven't looked through here. Yeah, here we go. There's one. We'll go look at his hosework.
00:41:52
Speaker 4: Look at his hosework, and gentlemen, let's not be exclusionary here.
00:41:56
Speaker 2: And there's another one there.
00:41:58
Speaker 4: Will holding a giant chainsaw. So that's well, don't just get to go to the port game, you get the official Will Gooding's Finementallan, I'd be.
00:42:06
Speaker 2: Careful you take that. I think if you went to the airport with that, you'd be arrested and rightly so I think that's exactly right. That was somewhat terrifying actually seeing that. Well, thank you come up.
00:42:18
Speaker 4: Well, it's amazing what you can do with a color printer and a u HU gluestick.
00:42:21
Speaker 2: Five double Andi drive dot com dot au is the way to donate. Remember too, you can call John O and Patty if you're a business and you want to talk through how you make the donation and the particulars and make sure you get you your love on air. We can make it happen. That's what it's all about here at the Undie Drive.
00:42:41
Speaker 4: We started the program expressing our complete disbelief at the fact that we're even having this conversation here in South Australia, but front page of the Advertiser faceless and free Bodies in the Barrels killer James los Arcus has been granted parole and maybe the only serial killer in the world to be free to discuss this and what happens from here or what can happen from here? Were joined now by the Attorney General, Kaim Mah Attorney. Great to have you on the show, and you know, we understand that none of this is your doing. It's a case that happened way back in the turn of the century. The story broke in nineteen ninety nine and then obviously the trial continued for a long time after the investigation. But is there anything that the government could or would do about it?
00:43:34
Speaker 19: Yeah, good morning guys, And yeah, just before that, I might say that there's very little that's happened that's had such an effect on South Australia in this case, not just on who were as a state, but how we're seen outside South Australia. But at the end of the day, I guess the most important thing is there are still well to the victims living in our community here in Adelaide and South Australia, and I guess that's what in our consideration be taken into account. But in terms of what can happen here, yeah, there are things that can happen under the Correctional Services Act. Myself as Attorney General, the Police Commissioner or the Commission for Victims' Rights have an ability to lodge a review of the prole decision. Now that review can only change a decision prole Board for good reasons. It can't just be that this was a high profile case and we would prefer that the person not get out, as I think many South Australians would be expressing. But there has to be a good reason to overturn it. So I know that Francis Nelson, the heads of prole Board, who will be well known to no South Australians and I don't think anyone would accuse her of being a soft touch, gave a press conference yesterday. We will look at those reasons when they're formally provided to us, I think sometime later today.
00:44:45
Speaker 2: And consider that I understand a legislation you're allowed to talk about whether you will or won't appeal in any case. But just before we get to that, that's the future. I'm just trying to why is it that we here in South Australia are going to do what no one else has done around the world to this point in Parola a serial killer? What leads to South Australia being the place where this can happen.
00:45:11
Speaker 19: Yeah, Look, I don't say we haven't done research about what's happened in other places right around the world in terms of people who've committed many murders have been released, but are going back, As you said, these events were the last century. I think the sense thing was way back in two thousand and one. One thing that I think is important to remember mister Phosarcas pleaded guilty and gave evidence against others in that case. So for very good reason, we want people to give evidence against those who committed such horrific crimes. And it would have been a terrible thing if the Bunting and Wagner in particular weren't convicted of these crimes. So the Farcus did give against his coed ques way back when the trial happens.
00:45:56
Speaker 4: So does that mean, though, that you'd be happy to have him as your next door neighbor.
00:46:00
Speaker 19: No, not not at all. As I said, I think the overrited consideration, I think needs to be those relatives who are around living in our community. And Francis Nelson talked about yesterday in her press conference, some of the conditions being not contacting any of the victim's relatives but also really importantly exclusion zone places suburbs around Adelaide where he can't go or can't be.
00:46:25
Speaker 2: It doesn't sound as though, based on your previous answer regarding the desire to have people come forward and give evidence and contribute to prosecution cases, that you see that there's any need to change the law that prevent serial killers being allowed out in future. Is that a fair assessment.
00:46:42
Speaker 19: No, No, I wouldn't say that we've changed a law regularly. In fact, when Mark Hayden, who wasn't convicted in any of the murders but was convicted of assisting the offenders in this case, he had his sentence finished. There, when you're on parole for a life sentence like the sarcas, you will be so conditions for the rest of your life if you get out.
00:47:02
Speaker 2: Sure, but it doesn't sound like this particular occurrence has motivated you guys to change anything.
00:47:07
Speaker 19: Well, we changed the law when Hayden was released to make it clear we could have an extended sucvision order to place conditions on him. So when there's been a.
00:47:14
Speaker 20: Need to, we have absolutely not hesitated to change the law.
00:47:19
Speaker 4: Thanks for that, Attorney Attorney General Kaim Mar we've got Sarah Quick, the Commissioner for Victim's Rights, on the line as well. Commissioner, we were saying at the start of the show, how sad it is that the victims of the Snowtown killings, they've almost become incidental, we feel in this whole horrible affair.
00:47:39
Speaker 21: Absolutely, I think it is really important to remember, you know, the people who did lose their lives so brutally, and really keep them at the heart of this story, along with their families who continue to suffer daily.
00:47:54
Speaker 4: Hmmm, because you know, there's so much the point has been made to the point of being labored about the dysfunction that existed within this community or sub community, and I think as a result of that, they've had their dignity taken away.
00:48:12
Speaker 21: Yeah, I'd agree with that to some extent. And you know, it doesn't matter where a victim comes from, what firsteoeconomic background, what level of education, that they're all lives important lives that have lost their loved ones and there are people grieving for them.
00:48:33
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:48:33
Speaker 4: I don't know, I just we really. I think our listeners struggled to come to terms with the fact. I mean, the Attorney General made a good point, a good legal point that will without people like Vosakas, who actually did turn on his co conspirators and dubbed them into the police, and that was the thing that enabled the coppers to stop this, and presumably more people would have died. That's all well and good, but he still did kill four.
00:49:00
Speaker 21: People, absolutely, and for some of the victims it does feel like an injustice that he's released. But certainly I have had a conversation with at least one victim who acknowledges Lasarcas's role in the conviction of Bunting and Wagner, and by his contribution, the victims ultimately did get some form of justice, albeit it not necessarily the outcome that they would desire. That you know, all offenders were in prison for the rest of their lives.
00:49:35
Speaker 4: Sarah Quick, the Commissioner for Victim's Rights, Thanks for joining us. It is just wird to think this bloke. Could you be plumped anywhere in the community, well, with the caveat that presumably not next to a school or something like that. But the school part of it isn't really the issue. It's no next to any other human I think is the how where it becomes challenging.
00:49:55
Speaker 2: It is not an unrealistic scenario to think he's going to bump into someone who is related to a victim of snow Town.
00:50:00
Speaker 4: Care is probably going to People tend to gravitate back to where they're from, So I probably going to go back to the suburbs that he that he lived in, the places that he that he grew up. And yeah, you know, it's uh, it's just just.
00:50:16
Speaker 2: Bizarre that we're even talking about it. I think, well, the Attorney General said he hadn't done the research on what serial killers may or may not have been released overseas. Sean Fuster has. He's going to join us after seven thirty. I was talking to him about it. He cannot find an instance where this has happened anywhere else in in the western world, so we will talk to him about that after seven thirty. Today, let's check traffic. I just should mention too. So many police homecare texts about this story see South Australians are outraged. The police home Care text line is in meltdown about it on zero zero eight thirty ninety five traffic. We'll get back into more of that shortly. Enjoy your outdoor area all year round with an opening and closing roof design manufacturing installed locally by loub House, David.
00:50:54
Speaker 5: Penberthy and Wild Goodings. Five double A Breakfast twenty.
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Speaker 2: Three minutes after seven, just rounding out the conversation mad before the break the head of the Parole Board, Francis Nelson Case, will be on with Graham Goodings at nine point fifteen this morning. So you've got some outstanding questions, perhaps they'll be answered there at very least they'll be asked, So make sure you stay listening after nine o'clock today for what was a world first yesterday here in South Australia, the Parole of James Osakas, we have tickets to sort of give away to the five double A locker room. It requires a ten dollars or more donation of five double A undidrive, dot com, dot a U, katherineous and hut streets any you do that and at eight o'clock we're going to pull a random name out that donated in the last hour and send you to the five double A locker room, which is as good as tickets get at Adelaide. Oval includes food before the game. You at the five hours Drink package and you get to send off one of the greats of the Port Adelaide Football Club in Travis Boke. I reckon cos you'll have some thoughts on that.
00:51:55
Speaker 4: Now, nevers.
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Speaker 5: David cash on five Double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Compare the market economic director and Port Adelaide Football Club boss Koshi. Good morning to you, money Color. We're just trying to We're talking about it with Tom Ren earlier measuring Travis Boke's contribution to the Port Adelaide Football Club. He would have loved to say, well, I gave a premiership to the club, but I reckon, there's an argument to say he gave more given the commitment he made to the club. When well, when you came in, Koshi, when it was looking like there might not be an AFL Port Adelaide Football.
00:52:38
Speaker 18: Club, when Jared Weighty quaintly described us as the carcass on the AFL landscape, it was pretty grim. And this young bloke from Victoria had a chance, was being wooed aggressively by Victorian clubs and particularly Geelong, and he decided to stick with it. And not only that, so I want to take a leadership role in this club, and he is. He is up there with one of the greatest port Adelaide legends. I think as a contribution to the club. And you know, we've got legends that have won in strings of Sampled Premierships and the like. We have legends that have won AFL Premierships. But I reckon his contribution to the club and as a human being is unparallel. His loyalty, his professionalism. You couldn't ask for anything better in a player of any club. And look at the impact his vain Sam pal Pepper, when he was sort of learning his trade as a kid, went and lived with Bogy, learned how to be a profession and all football at Bogus mum. Chicky became his mum as well. And let's not forget the support Chicky bog has given Traver as well. It's a wonderful relationship the two have and is so important in Bok's life.
00:54:17
Speaker 4: How important was that decision to issue the advances of the Geelong Football Club, Dave, because for you and and to Ken at the time you were all sort of starting out on your journey. You know, you had a club that horrible heally quote encapsulated. You know, it had been a rough couple of years and you were financially on.
00:54:36
Speaker 2: The map as well.
00:54:38
Speaker 4: But can a moment like that can become a symbol that sort of resonates through an organization, can't it?
00:54:44
Speaker 13: Oh?
00:54:44
Speaker 18: Absolutely, and two other players in the group, players who were coming to the organization. Ollie Wines was drafted in that year and Jane Wines often says when Olie was drafted to Port Adelaide, she cried. She said, they thought he was going to football hell. And it was the Travis folks of the world at the time Don Cassizi as well, who settled those new players in coming in, helped define a culture that some would argue made us a destination club that players loved to come to and be part of. And yes, a lot of it has got to do with the coaching staff and Kenny, but equally as much as the leadership group led by Trav that set that culture up for the next ten to fifteen years. And that's how important his role has been for the club. And you know, we want to send him a way well and fittingly he deserves it.
00:56:03
Speaker 4: I was going to ask about that just to wrap up. Not sure, and obviously you don't pick the team, but he's been playing and whether it's against Freo or the final round of the year against Gold Coast, will it be Is there something special that the club does have in mind and be great to see as many fans there as possible.
00:56:21
Speaker 22: Obviously, yep, absolutely, you know it's all going to be about trad and and and also paying tribute and respect to Kenn as well. And I remember he was that first press conference and he said someone said, well, you know, were you the last man's standing in terms of a choice to come to Port Adelaide? And it took the Jedi square in the eye and said, I'm the right man standing.
00:56:51
Speaker 18: And that's that's that's set the tone and trap those important moments, and for me, they're they're really significant parts of the rebuild of Port Adelaide, just key foundations that that is a club we'll never forget.
00:57:08
Speaker 2: It's nice you're going to get a couple of weeks to celebrate an absolute legend of the club. Goshi, thanks for joining us this morning.
00:57:13
Speaker 18: Thanks, I've got it, and good luck being a fineman. Will you'll probably stay longer.
00:57:20
Speaker 2: Than everyone's making. I haven't done it. Let's find out.
00:57:30
Speaker 5: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast. It's time to go around the courts with Sean Fusta on five double a Breakfast.
00:57:41
Speaker 2: Well, I've blagiarized him enough this morning when I will introduce him to the studio and get him involved in the conversation. Sean fust is reporting on the parole decision regarding James Pasarkus as peerless this morning, and unlike the Attorney General, he has done a lot of background research around the historical and global significance of this. Sean, and you were the one who's pointed out, well, you can't find this ever happening before. We've got a few text people saying well, hang on, a decision was taken when someone was arrested and they have agreed to give evidence. Why are we turning this into something? Well, we're turning to something because it's never happened before.
00:58:14
Speaker 11: That's very right. Good morning, Will, Good morning Penmboa.
00:58:16
Speaker 10: It's nice to be back in the studio. Thank you for all your patients with that the last couple of months when my threat we've been recovering from illness, you've been crooked.
00:58:22
Speaker 2: So it's good to have you in. It's great day to have you in.
00:58:24
Speaker 10: Look It's an important day to be in here because this is a historic moment. You guys will remember and listeners might remember. Years ago I wrote a book called City of Evil, which was designed to dispel the myth that the bodies in the Barrels case had created that South Australia was the murder capital of the world. We dispelled that myth. You know, it even ended up on the Decks to TV show, it was that prolific. But this is something we can't walk away from the fact that we are, as far as I can find out, the only place in the world that has ever parolled a convicted serial killer. There are places where a mass killer multiple crimes committed on the same day that person has been paroled. There's even an instance in Austria where a man who was a murderer got parole and went on to become a serial killer. But as far as the research can fined, and as far as every expert I've spoken to and look, I hope to be wrong about this, but as far as I can find, no other place in the world has ever paroled a convicted serial killer.
00:59:17
Speaker 2: The thing that I struggle with that I take the point as we're just alluded to.
00:59:21
Speaker 4: We've had a couple of texts from people saying, well, if he's done his time and he's behaved himself, what's the issue. I think the issue is it's the number of people he killed and the manner in which they were killed.
00:59:31
Speaker 10: Well, I'll put it to you this way. The Hilio triple murderer is doing thirty five years. That was a woman and two kids, that was all on the same day. You look at the kapunditriple murderer, Jason Downey, whole family, same night, thirty five years. This is four people torture, as you say, separate occasions, separated greatly in time, and that's twenty six years. And in the case of both the Heilio triple murderer and the Punditrible murder. Before anybody says well false equivalents, both of those killers pleaded guilty as well. Now, they didn't have anybody to turn evidence on, and they certainly didn't have the luxury of blaming someone else in a group for their criminal ways, which is what Blasarkas has got going for him. But he served far less time than mass killers who committed their crimes in one hit and when you think about the heiliar case that had to go to appeal to be upped to thirty five years because the original sentence was so short. Even the killer himself said, my sentence is too low. And yet we've got blasarkas getting parole after twenty six years when it is a full on serial killing.
01:00:38
Speaker 4: The attorney General, the police commissioner, and the victim's Rights commissioner. None of the three is allowed to say publicly whether they will be appealing or not.
01:00:48
Speaker 2: That's right, but you can speculate. Do you think they will?
01:00:51
Speaker 11: I think you have to.
01:00:52
Speaker 10: I think even if you fail, you have to You have to be seen. You have to fly the flag. You have to be seen to be doing this. Now, I'm not talking so much about Sarah Quick. There Sarah Quick flies the flag every day. There is no one in this state that does more for victims than her. If it was up to her, she would have been I think in the parole board hearing waving the flag. At that moment when it comes to the Attorney General and the police commissioner, I think you've got to be seen to be doing the right thing because this is a global moment, this is.
01:01:22
Speaker 4: Something different isn't the counter argument that the Snowtown killings might have continued if not for James Vosarkus's decision to call the police.
01:01:33
Speaker 10: You could argue that the Snowtown killings might have stopped earlier had South Australia police intervened earlier. That's one of the other conspiracy theories that goes around how deep.
01:01:40
Speaker 4: Down the licking there might be for fewer dead people if James Vasakas didn't kill them.
01:01:44
Speaker 11: That's exactly right.
01:01:44
Speaker 10: How far down do you want to boil into this and into the suppositions and the what have views, and the maybes and the what ifs.
01:01:51
Speaker 2: The fact is this is the situation we got too.
01:01:53
Speaker 4: Like the thing I really struggle with is how on earth can you be part of the most grulish criminal enterprise ever perpetrated in the history of this country and we're told you're all better now and you're free to go and live in I don't know, Wayville, Shidow Park, Elizabeth North, and no one's allowed.
01:02:09
Speaker 10: To know that you're there for my money. It's because of the specter that Bunting casts. Everything from the moment those men were arrested was designed and pushed towards this narrative that Bunting is responsible. Bunting is the puppet master. Bunting is the master criminal who is responsible for everything. Everyone was so afraid of him, nobody could do anything without him. He was the Bengali that was ruling over this whole thing. It's a really convenient scapegoat to get past one's own moral culpability, because one's own moral culpability is automatically reduced. Well, I was only nineteen, and he was in a position of authority and control over me. So when you're accepting responsibility for guilt, you're only doing it to a particular level.
01:02:48
Speaker 2: The Attorney General with US used to turn a phrase. I think it was compelling reasons. It might well have been to a challenge a parole board decision. What's the history of what constitutes compelling reasons that? When does that work in terms of government appeals of these sorts of decisions.
01:03:04
Speaker 10: Well, because we don't hear about them very often, it's hard to answer that question. One would imagine, and I have to speculate here, as much as I hate doing it, that you're compelling reasons would be community safety, You're compelling reasons would be behavior in prison. You're compelling reasons would be the seriousness of the crime. Now, if Lasakas has been as well behaved in prison as every single person, both on and off the record, swears to, then it's going to be very hard to argue that he should still.
01:03:29
Speaker 15: Be in there.
01:03:30
Speaker 10: The man, by all intents and purposes, by the metrics that we set, is rehabilitated. Appears to be how are you going to argue that there's compelling reasons to keep him away from the people of the community, absent the fact of the nature of.
01:03:46
Speaker 4: How do you take how on earth do you rehabilitate someone who's done these things to people?
01:03:51
Speaker 10: And that's the question, that's the live question. Our metrics say that he's rehabilitated, But does that.
01:03:56
Speaker 4: Mean it's not like someone who shot someone in a brawl over a some relationship. You know, you shoot some guy because you find out he's sleeping with your wife.
01:04:05
Speaker 11: Crime of passion, Yeah, where you belt.
01:04:07
Speaker 4: Someone in a Barbara or I'm not making any of those things. It's just like creatively screwed up weirdness.
01:04:16
Speaker 2: How well to that to that end? Then how likely is it is? It is an argument to be made about the historical significance, the uniqueness of it, and saying, well, the metrics that we have in place to determine rehab don't fit the set of circumstances and the behaviors that we're trying to correct.
01:04:34
Speaker 10: And I think that's exactly why it needs to be flown up the flagpole. You hear all the time in court, Well, these laws have never been tested, This argument's never been tested. Well, the concept of rehabilitation after serial killing has never been tested as far as we can find in the entire world. So it's time for South Australia to pony up.
01:04:50
Speaker 2: And do it.
01:04:51
Speaker 4: Amazing, amazing that we're even talking about it, Jean, indeed, great having your back mate, Yeah.
01:04:57
Speaker 2: Great to have you back in the studio. Remarkable reporting. If you haven't read shall piece this morning, do so. And of all course what was always check out Just Lovell the podcast. You can listen to it here on five double or you're everywhere you get podcasts, don't you Absolutely all right? Good stuff? Sean, great, have you win. We're going to take a quick break, We'll check traffic and come back with more undrdrive related silliness In just a moment. Enjoy your outdial area all year round with an opening and closing roof design manufacturing and installed locally by Louba House, David.
01:05:22
Speaker 5: Penberthie and Wild Goodings five double a Breakfast.
01:05:26
Speaker 2: Ten minutes to wait. I'm officially nervous. We've got the Chief Officer of the MFS, Jeff Swan and the five double a beck for a studio whethers if you want to watch on the Facebook or YouTube live stream. Chief, good morning to you, good morning, Thank you very much. You've got a some very heavy looking kit for me as well. Here you guys were at.
01:05:43
Speaker 7: I've got one of our fire fighting jackets here for you. It's actually the kit that we wear to a structure fire, so it's what keeps our firefighters safe and protected in a fire.
01:05:55
Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question about firefighting? Have any of your officers ever cried on the job or killed over from putting the gear on?
01:06:05
Speaker 7: We do get some of our firefighters after working in extreme conditions. Yeah, no, That's why it's really important that our fitness and everything is maintained so that we don't do that so that wild happen. Maybe some of our staff that have secondary employment could suffer with that.
01:06:24
Speaker 23: But.
01:06:26
Speaker 7: Normal fire fighters are extremely fit and well prepared.
01:06:30
Speaker 2: In all seriousness, say, it's a remarkable you guys coming to the party and helping us out for the UNDI Drive. We can't thank you enough because we know you've given up time and you've come in here, you've brought the stuff, You've got trucks and so forth, and it's these are the sorts of contributions that make the under drive possible and make it bigger than just two blokes sitting in a studio talking about Catherine How's an art street center. So, in all sincerity, thank you so much for giving up your time and being part of our drive.
01:06:55
Speaker 7: That's an absolute pleasure. And look, it really is a team effort from the MF. We've got some really great people that get involved in a whole range of events and charity events for the community, and that is probably one of the most special things of the MFS. Everyone is community minded and they're doing it for the right reasons.
01:07:13
Speaker 4: Chief, it's pretty hard to get a job with the MFS. What sort of physical shape do you need to be in? Is the physical a big part of the entry exam?
01:07:21
Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, the physical aptitude test is certainly a really big part of it. So there's there's two tests. One is the beep test, which is the shuttle run. So that's to a nine point six standard. So if you compare that to I think the police use about a two standard. No, that's not actually true. They are about a six or seven.
01:07:46
Speaker 4: Can you look at someone and just from having a quick squeeze at the mic for example, and gourse.
01:07:51
Speaker 7: This guy up to it a little bit of training and we would be absolutely up to it a little And then the aptitude test is really about, you know, just your physical ability to climb a ladder and carry it out. Problem to dragged dummy.
01:08:05
Speaker 2: We're about to fight out, I guess are. We can ask you about the actual job and the people that do do this every day and the risks they take in the work that your officers do. I imagine it's changed over the years as well. You know, you've got you called on to do probably more things than ever before we talk about you know, you guys are there for the when we talk about the road sol every morning, you guys are probably the first ones that have been there. How is how has fire fighting changed?
01:08:30
Speaker 7: Look, it has been a real evolution certainly over my career where it's you know, fires are about fifty percent of our calls. Now we go to a lot of road crash rescue, well, a lot of assist other agencies. So the you know, the emergency services as a collective really work really collaboratively, so with the police and the Ambulance Service and the SEES and the CFS will work really closely together to provide a great response for the community. So it really is a big team effort to respond to a range of different emergencies, whether that's a rescue, lots of industrial rescues, so accidents on work sites. Do you the has matt stuff like spills and that, Yeah, we do all of the HASMA and chemical spills, things like the.
01:09:14
Speaker 2: Big strew of the other day.
01:09:15
Speaker 4: And I was on a Virgin flight and noted the announcement that they made that if anybody had lithium batteries on board in their overhead compartment they had to keep an eye on their bags, bring the bags out of the cabin and put them at their feet. Has that become Has that changed firefighting in the last few years.
01:09:32
Speaker 7: Look, that has been a massive change in firefighting litium ion batteries, and we've done a few media campaigns around it in the last couple of years, but just to educate people around the challenges and make sure we don't charge anything in the home, make sure it's in a nice area away from combustibles, not to leave things charged. The biggest issue though, is people buying incompatible charges for their device, so they either put different batteries in or modify a piece of equipment and using incompatible charges, which overheats the batteries and then can lead to a fire.
01:10:04
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking as you talk about the breadth of responsibilities beyond the literal fighting of fires component. There was a story recently. It was only a footnote in the story that we covered. I think it was largely about ambulance response times, but someone had come to grief in the city and it was the fieries who were providing CPR there because you guys were there first. Yep.
01:10:21
Speaker 7: So yeah, all of our ambulances do carry defibrillators and are all trained in first aid, so we'll provide first aid response to assist the ambulance service when required.
01:10:31
Speaker 2: Now, I don't know if the police commissioner hurd you barb about the fitness standards there at the police. But he's called in.
01:10:36
Speaker 7: I did see his name on the screen there, so I that was an intentional barb.
01:10:40
Speaker 2: The scimmished the grant.
01:10:41
Speaker 24: Steven's good boarding, Yeah, good morning, and we'll I've got to tell you how disappointed I am that you decided to join the firees and not the cops. But I know you guys don't work very hard, so it's probably a better fit given your bad back. I reckon, Jeff, have done something different with you. You should have put your night shift so you could have a good eight hour sleep in the comfortable bed.
01:11:04
Speaker 2: Rather, you're not going to cut that a you, Jenny.
01:11:09
Speaker 7: Look, there is some element of preparedness that we do go through so keeping our fire is ready to go. But we'd be really happy if you did join the police, because there'd be no doubt you'd come across the fire service after a couple of years anyway, because we have a lot of recruits from the police, and just just for the commission how many how many fire fighters do you have ex fire fighters as police officers?
01:11:31
Speaker 24: Commissioner Well, that the concept of actually working for a living really doesn't sit well with fiery, so we don't do any And I will point out one of the pre entry tests to join the fire's got to be able to cook a good roast for your mates on afternoon shift, and.
01:11:48
Speaker 2: We don't.
01:11:48
Speaker 7: We only have selected people that do that. We don't need everyone to cook the roast. It's specialist skill sets are really important in the fire service.
01:11:57
Speaker 2: You know a friend show YouTube folks all over.
01:12:01
Speaker 24: Can I just say, with a degree of seriousness, you know the fieries do an excellent job on those rare occasions they're called to do their job.
01:12:13
Speaker 2: Commissioners, thank you for the real reason I didn't do this with the police commissioners is you terrify me as a boss of so you give that stair sometimes during interviews and anything all Cricky'm in danger here, so I couldn't. I couldn't turn up to work and do with that. Now it's time for the jack. Good on your commissioner and we'll see you.
01:12:29
Speaker 4: I hope you've been practicing your triangle, Commissioner, because this Friday.
01:12:35
Speaker 7: Just make sure you got that gun Holsted. Commissioner, what a skin. That was remarkable, very seriousness. The commissioner is a fantastic gentleman and a great commissioner, and we have a great relationship with the police and we have a huge amount of respect for him.
01:13:02
Speaker 4: So Will is now slipping into the gear. You will get warm in that one of those two devices.
01:13:09
Speaker 2: You've got there.
01:13:10
Speaker 4: One looks like a sort of coal miner's lantern.
01:13:13
Speaker 2: Break a breaker, Break your break.
01:13:16
Speaker 7: He's got one of our gr N radios and a one of the.
01:13:20
Speaker 2: Tortures that can we get five double A on the GRN radio.
01:13:24
Speaker 7: I don't think we can normally, but I'm sure it could be modified. We can get one of our radio texts to the.
01:13:29
Speaker 4: Light that's presumably for going through smoke or you know, doing stuff where you can't see.
01:13:34
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's correct. So there's a couple of different angles on it so it can point down or so you can point out how.
01:13:40
Speaker 2: Much does all this stuff way cheap?
01:13:42
Speaker 7: Look all up and I would have to just double check. Come with the newer gear, but it's around about thirty two kilos when you've got the set and everything all kitted up, booted and spurred.
01:13:55
Speaker 4: I's been practicing by getting a croissant and a flat wire pass to him every denon and the makeup channel.
01:14:02
Speaker 2: But then jaggling a bit of stuff.
01:14:05
Speaker 7: In addition to that, the fi is depending on the job, could carry a significant amount of kit.
01:14:10
Speaker 2: You know.
01:14:10
Speaker 7: If there's a job into a high rise building, there's a high rise pack, so you've got a hose and some other equipment once you get up there, So they could be carrying an extra ten or fifteen KOs as well. It's a small person, yeah, so you know, and that's why fitness and making sure we get the right people for the fire service is really important.
01:14:28
Speaker 2: Well, Chief, thank you for coming in. I wouldn't know if I'll be thinking you in an hour's time, but we will. We'll see how that all goes. The MFS Chief Jeff Swan our guest on five double A Breakfast for the five double A AI Drive were to take break of course, to make it all happen, we need your donations, folks, so get donating now five to bl Andi drive dot com, dot au, Catherine House and Hut Street Center. We want some businesses to get involved as well. Get on board, get a shout out, give our wonderful charities a little bit of love this morning and that will certainly make it worth your while. Well out the winer of the tickets to every single day nation of ten dollars or more has gone and running doing five double A locker room tickets, So that will be announced very shortly.
01:15:05
Speaker 5: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double A breakfast.
01:15:09
Speaker 2: Five double A here in High Marsh Square at the moment is seriously seriously entertaining. That's not a fire, but there may well be an emergency. Then they are if you look on the Facebook and YouTube live stream, because they are here in preparedness, because we are going to recreate climbing from the basement to the roof of the building in all the gear and look for.
01:15:27
Speaker 4: The benefit of those of you who are in your car or listening without access to the live stream. Will has got the MFS T shirt on, he's got the he's got the guns out, looking good looking, buff, looking a bit like Patrick Swayze and Backdraft. Oh yeah, do you get the big axe you're going to get?
01:15:45
Speaker 2: I don't know if I get the big acts.
01:15:46
Speaker 4: Is the show going to reach a heady climax with you smashing your way into the studio one minute to nine? They wouldn't that be something I might have something that I could use to ignite some papers with maybe just put the boys to the test. They're all here, why not why not get donating those folks.
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Speaker 2: Five to Blandy drive dot com dot au is the place to go, and the climb will begin very very surely. If I think I'm gonna go down and get a full briefing down in the truck, shortly, we're going to be showing it all on the Facebook and YouTube live stream, so make sure you tune in and and look. Frankly, I have no idea what's going to happen. I'm not even sure I'll be able to complete this challenge. I hope we don't have a live read at five to nine. You might be out of breath. Mate.
01:16:28
Speaker 4: Yeah we seven fights and stairs were thirty two kilograms worth a gear.
01:16:32
Speaker 2: When I'm not here, don't mean I just don't need to miss opportunities. For example, if if there's something, if the worst were to happen, don't just immediately call emergency service. Say if we get five hundred dollars worth of donations with the UNDI drive, the firegs will perform CPR on wheel. Don't worry, we'll work it for all. It's word, okay, I hate to think we wasted a tragedy.
01:16:51
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01:16:57
Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be something? Use that to raise money?
01:17:00
Speaker 4: Five dollars for every minute spent in the car park at the Royal Adelaide Hospital, we sold a million dollars.
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01:17:39
Speaker 4: The state government's announced this morning that it's going to introduce a ban on the use of personal mobile phones and other mobile devices in all childcare centers early year services. And it's all about strengthening the safety of kids in light of the horror that emerged from Victoria. The one good thing, if you can even use the word good in this context to emerge from that absolute outrage is that it seems to have actually woken up the authorities as to the need to do a hell of a lot more to keep our kids safe. Blair Boyer is the Education Ministry and he's joining us now for breaking at eight. Minister, good morning this This is not only a good move, it looks like a pretty quick move. It's coming in September.
01:18:17
Speaker 20: Yeah, much as we can here, I wanted us to be first out of the blocks, and we will be along with Victoria to have the personal device ban in place. It'll mean from the first of September, all those centers that are going to be covered in South Australia and it will be about nine hundred must have a policy and then from about the twenty sixth of that month enforcement starts, including spot checks by the regulator and some pretty speed fines up to fifty thousand dollars if they don't comply.
01:18:44
Speaker 4: So how will the ban actually work, Minister? Because I'm sure that you know these people working in these centers.
01:18:49
Speaker 2: They're all adults.
01:18:50
Speaker 4: They might have I don't know, like an elderly relative who's unwell. They might have they might have to be in touch with their own kids who might be at school and you know, your kid gets gastro or something, you get a call from the sick room. Will they still be able to have a designated period where they can actually check their phones during the working day.
01:19:12
Speaker 20: Yes, if as long as they're not essentially on shift and responsible for children. And that's only if they are not if they are on duty, so to speak, and they're responsible for the care of kids in long day care or preschool, the phone must be away in a locker or in their bag. If there are those kind of circumstances you mentioned around, you know, having a sick loved one or something like that, they can get an exemption from the director of their service to be reachable on that day, but it has to be approved by that director. It's not carte blanche, and they can't just do it whenever they want so.
01:19:43
Speaker 4: In a way, this is almost like the adult version of what you've done in schools, isn't it It is?
01:19:48
Speaker 20: That's often the way I describe it too. It is the adult version of the mobile phone band from high schools. It essentially works exactly the same way, and it will also include personal advices which smart watches which might include a camera, because I understand there are some of those on the market now that actually have a camera, so you could use that to covertly record things. So this personal device band will cover that as well.
01:20:11
Speaker 4: Are there are any other measures that are on the horizon that have arisen out of the Victorian case that the state government's looking at too.
01:20:18
Speaker 20: Yes, there are, there's a few. One is a National Register of Workers, so a database essentially of those working in these settings, so that you can as an employer and as a regulator, you can check to see a bit of their history about where they've been working. We know from this person who did this teen of stuff in Victoria that he worked at a lot of different centers, and that seems to be the pattern. Sometimes they try to jump across state borders and get access that way. So I register so we can keep better track more. CCTV is certainly being looked at as well, and I think they'll probably be a pretty decent conversation that's already kicked off around ratios of staff as well. It's important, I think, to remember none of this stuff, unfortunately, is a silver bullet of it by itself will necessarily stop someone who's prepared to do the things that happened in Melbourne. But I think all together it will really reduce risk and I think will give parents more confidence when they're dropping their kids off in the morning.
01:21:13
Speaker 4: Can I just say one thing, there's a bit of a reflective comment on how society can get screwed up on account of the miscreants that the minority of miscreants that inhabit it. One thing I like as a parent is we have an app called Seesaw through our school, and you'd be familiar with that, I'm sure, as a parent and as a minister to layer. But often during the day I'll get an email from Seesaw saying this is what Sam's been doing today, and they will send a video of him giving a speech or one of Charlie's done some art, and you get pictures of him proudly holding up the art. That's a digitally driven educational moment. At the moment that is a parent that makes you feel proud. Things like that kind of imperiled by the world that we now inhabit.
01:22:02
Speaker 20: That's a really great example. I was thinking of that this morning because I remember, like it was yesterday when my now eleven year old was dropped off for the first time at childcare and she was upset. I was upset. I remember driving away thinking what have I done here? And then later in the day I got a photo through I think it was seesaw from the community childcare center showing what a great time she was having, and that was brilliant. And I don't want to deprive parents of that, So that kind of thing can still happen, but there has to be a center approved device that is looked after by the director, no personal devices. But yes, you're absolutely right. I think this kind of staff brings into peril, as you said, the upside of digital technology as well, and that's actually a great example of where it can be really good and great the parents through, which is disappointing.
01:22:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's almost like these days at school sport. You know, if you whippy camera out to take a picture your kid, you want to make sure that you're nice and tight on the angle and that you don't look like you're taking a group photograph. It's a sad state of affairs.
01:23:05
Speaker 20: I reckon it is a sad state of affairs. I totally agree. And the horrible thing is is that like this person in Melbourne, I mean, they are experts at finding the gaps in systems. It's what they do, you know, whether it's moving centers, routinely being out of shot of CCTV, ingratiating themselves with parents, they're masters of that. Often you hear about we thought he was such a good person, he was lovely to us. That's all part of the grooming process these people do, so they're not under suspicion. It is shocking, shocking stuff, but unfortunately that's what we're trying to protect ourselves against.
01:23:42
Speaker 2: Education.
01:23:43
Speaker 4: Minister Blair, boy, thanks for joining us this morning.
01:23:48
Speaker 2: I'm glad you asked that question about the potential positive use of technology in those environments. I'm glad they thought about it and they've got an answer for it. Yeah, I was sure. That feels like a really good solution. Yeah, it does. You have one that it's hard to misuse something that belongs to the center. Yeah, that everyone's got access.
01:24:05
Speaker 4: If it's done in an open environment where there's there's other workers there, then I've got no issue with that.
01:24:11
Speaker 2: As a parent. A lot of parents do though, I mean, because well, things.
01:24:15
Speaker 4: Like you know, well you'd know with TV when when the media gets footage of a school, like you know, they might even do it today. They might want footage. I'm sure you will want footage of a childcare center. You often see those letters home do you consent to your children being in this? And a lot of people say no.
01:24:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, We're going to check traffic and then we're going to have a very quick break and then I'm going to disappear in fact speed. Let's look at field Watch first, because we've got some fuel Watch information to just come through. It's better to be a member with RAA road service. The Mobile Shadow Park Commercial Road dollar fifty seven point five is as cheap as you'll find. The Rangers is pretty big today. The shell OTRs and Mary's is at a dollar seventy nine point nine for example. And then you've got, in fact, the best enough. I was just spotted a better one. The United Flinders Park Gray Drug is a dollar fifty six point nine, so that's as good as you're going to find it. Diesel is relatively speaking, pretty good. The Liberty put Adelaide Saint Vincent Street East is the best at the dollar sixty seven point five. The cow TeX's Clamsy gog row Dollar sixty nine point nine is pretty good as well. Now I'm going to go in a moment and prove why it's so hard to be a fineman. Okay, I think I'm going to do them a great deal of good Where's your mum? She must be round here, she's in the building. I think, Oh, excellent, she's taking over after the break fantastic Eve Goodings on debut. I'm as scared for you as I am for me.
01:25:34
Speaker 4: We now have three fifths of the Gooding family Goodings family working at five double A. What did John I say he's going to get Sam and your sister when there's no.
01:25:42
Speaker 2: Budget bringing a Goodings that he said, Let's check traffic and I'll leave you to it. Enjoy your out to an area all year round with an opening and closing roof design manufactured and installed locally by Livehouse.
01:25:53
Speaker 5: David Penberthie and World Goodings five double A Breakfast.
01:25:58
Speaker 1: It's game one and with authors on you and demonstrator models you that you're participating, Young day.
01:26:04
Speaker 3: Dealer today, five double A Breakfast David penberthy and Will's mum, what about that?
01:26:13
Speaker 4: If you've even got your own promo. David Penmoody and will'smum. It is David Penmothy and Will's Mum at eight twenty three here in Himo square five, double a. Eve Goodings, welcome to the program.
01:26:23
Speaker 9: Thank you. I don't like this w camera stuff on me.
01:26:27
Speaker 2: Oh this is the live stream. It's gone. It's gone all high tech now.
01:26:30
Speaker 9: Oh good, that's nice. The microphones in my face, I love it.
01:26:33
Speaker 4: We're going to cross to your son shortly, Eve, but can I just ask you, as a mother, how do you feel about the fact that your son is wearing thirty two kilograms worth of firefighting equipment.
01:26:43
Speaker 9: I'm not happy with John at all?
01:26:45
Speaker 2: Do you know?
01:26:45
Speaker 9: Paul Will has got such a such a bad back.
01:26:49
Speaker 2: That is it?
01:26:50
Speaker 9: The other thing I was thinking when I was driving here, why isn't John O doing something?
01:26:54
Speaker 4: Well, he's a fire fighter in his spare time.
01:26:57
Speaker 9: But why haven't we challenged him with something that is a.
01:27:00
Speaker 2: Really good point that he is an excellent point two days to go.
01:27:04
Speaker 9: Yeah, let's come up with something for John.
01:27:07
Speaker 2: You know.
01:27:07
Speaker 4: The thing is that there are some ideas that are vetoed in all seriousness in the planning of this year's under Drive There was a serious discussion about whether Sapole would agree to us having Tom Wren put on all the protective gear and then be attacked by a police dog.
01:27:26
Speaker 2: Seriously, but.
01:27:30
Speaker 9: HR stepped in and the most boring people.
01:27:36
Speaker 2: Stick in the MUDs.
01:27:36
Speaker 9: They are really a pack. That would have been really funny. Sorry Tommy, but I think that would have been very.
01:27:41
Speaker 2: Fun Tom would have been up for it.
01:27:42
Speaker 4: Well, look, we're going to cross out now to catch up with Will because he's he's donning the gear.
01:27:47
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he's fully dressed ready to go.
01:27:52
Speaker 9: Oh my god, Hey, will you look pretty good in that?
01:27:56
Speaker 2: I feel pretty good in it. I've got to say I was nervous before, but now I'm just I just want to rescue someone just waiting for sudden go wrong. You've always been I'm ready, I've got my I don't know what any of this stuff does, but I'm ready to use it.
01:28:08
Speaker 9: Let's see you go up the stairs and how long you last before?
01:28:11
Speaker 25: No, can't.
01:28:12
Speaker 2: I can't rescue anyone beyond a five meter radius, but you can't actually move. Have a look at this thing on my back. I think I've dropped out.
01:28:24
Speaker 9: No, you've gone really weird.
01:28:26
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, he's back here. I can hear I'm back. I'm back. I think I might have enthusiasm knocked things out and again the oxygen tank, We've got the gas mask. I've got the chief here to guide me through the whole thing, talking to me. If he gets hurt, my mother's threatening your chief.
01:28:45
Speaker 7: I'll take that seriously.
01:28:47
Speaker 2: I would be a little bit concerned. So what am I wearing here? What do we got on? What's the what's the critical gear?
01:28:52
Speaker 7: You're you're wearing the normal fire fighting gear, which is a protective equipment that keeps you safe in a fire. But you're all so wearing breathing apparatus on your back. That's the cylinder on your back. Then the mask that will go on your face, so that if we go into a toxic atmosphere, we're going to put that on and keep us safe. We won't wear that going up the stairwell initially because we've normally done that in clean air just before. Because depending on how hard we're working, I'm suspecting you're going to be working pretty hard. We'll only have about twenty minutes of air.
01:29:23
Speaker 2: This is a radio station, so it is quite by a definition of toxic atmosphere. So that's a pretty good thing, and I've got that in place.
01:29:30
Speaker 7: We've also got an axe and a hooligan tool in case we have to break into a door when we get there, because we'll have something to rescue. So we've got some breaking gear to actually make entry.
01:29:40
Speaker 2: A hooligan tool.
01:29:41
Speaker 7: Hooligan tool, that's correct.
01:29:42
Speaker 2: Can I ask where it got its name from?
01:29:44
Speaker 7: Well, that's a very good question, and I'm sure it was from the designers, but I don't know. But there've been a standard piece of our kit now for many years, and they're a great tool for breaking into a doorway or making entry.
01:29:57
Speaker 2: I'm glad you explained that because I thought it was for use during sort of European football qualifies or something or other. But all right, well, I think i'll throw out to you guys in the studio. Sounds like you're having fun in there. I've got some stairs to climb. Good on you will, goode will?
01:30:11
Speaker 9: I reckon? It comes from the West is of Sydney.
01:30:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're a west he Ain't you from Canley Vale, aren't you you?
01:30:19
Speaker 21: Mom?
01:30:19
Speaker 9: Yes, don't say it like that.
01:30:21
Speaker 2: It's Canley Vale, Canley Vale.
01:30:23
Speaker 9: Between Fairfield and Camera Mada.
01:30:26
Speaker 2: That is a pretty gritty part of it.
01:30:28
Speaker 9: I have a T shirt I survived the West. Oh really have Sydney?
01:30:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, big Polish community there, because that's where your people are originally from.
01:30:36
Speaker 9: Yes, definitely, Mum and dad both Poles.
01:30:39
Speaker 4: Excellent now I know that because well every World Cup comes in we're in his Polish soccer kit Polska.
01:30:45
Speaker 2: And how good is this?
01:30:46
Speaker 4: We love the fact that so many people organically get behind the UNDI driving. Yesterday we noticed the sign up on a jack Kiway outside the Wonderful Highway Hotel there on the corner of Marion Road and Nan jack Kiway, where the the pub's own sign has been changed to read let's get behind five double a's under drive. They need our help? Well, indeed we do for the Hut Street Center and Catherine House. Christine mccaulif from the Highways on the line. Now, hey Christine, we can't thank you enough for doing that. We're really touched when we realize what you've done.
01:31:19
Speaker 23: That's okay, guys, We're happy to help out.
01:31:21
Speaker 4: So look, just in terms of you know, the sign, we are actually wondering whether you would be you would be happy. Hang on, I've got Will in my ear.
01:31:34
Speaker 2: Will is in my ear.
01:31:35
Speaker 4: Sorry, I've just you might want to unplug him in case he says anything untoward.
01:31:39
Speaker 2: Sorry, Christina, you're there.
01:31:41
Speaker 23: That's okay, Yes, I'm here.
01:31:42
Speaker 4: How would you feel about us auctioning off your.
01:31:45
Speaker 2: Sign for a day?
01:31:47
Speaker 17: You would love it.
01:31:47
Speaker 23: Actually, we can do it for more than a day. We're happy for Friday, Saturday, Sunday, so they can have it.
01:31:52
Speaker 21: For the whole weekend.
01:31:53
Speaker 4: So anyone who wants to write a dedication of love or possibly they can do.
01:31:59
Speaker 23: A marriage proposal, they can do a birth day. They could advertise their business within reason. Of course, don't need all the other hotels advertising on our side.
01:32:11
Speaker 2: You're not going to put up a plug for Peter Early's marrying Hotel or anything like that.
01:32:15
Speaker 23: No, it's all for a good cause, so maybe we might even consider it.
01:32:22
Speaker 6: Like it.
01:32:23
Speaker 4: What was just saying, Christine've got a long association with the Highway because we had our nineteen eighty five marrying high school social there.
01:32:31
Speaker 23: Oh well, there you go in the old in the old function room.
01:32:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there was a wonderful sixty to forty man playing.
01:32:36
Speaker 9: It was a cracking night, Christine, it's starting. They'll start singing those songs.
01:32:43
Speaker 4: So look, Christine, thanks to the generosity of the Highway, we're going to throw it over to our listeners and to businesses. The highest bidder by nine o'clock today. The highest bidder will, through your generosity, be able.
01:32:58
Speaker 2: To put up.
01:33:00
Speaker 4: Pretty much anything they want no expletives on the highway sign for three days.
01:33:06
Speaker 23: Exactly this Friday, Saturday and Sunday. They can have whatever they like on our fun and we're happy to advertise first for a great cause.
01:33:12
Speaker 4: Hey look, that's so kind of you, Christine, Thank you so much.
01:33:15
Speaker 2: So hot to Adelaide.
01:33:16
Speaker 4: Get donating and head into the Highway for a great meal and a pint. We'll be back Eve after the thirty newsbreak we will.
01:33:23
Speaker 1: It's game on at heyun day with authors on you and demonstrator models. Visit you're participating them day.
01:33:29
Speaker 3: Dealer today five double A Breakfast, David Penberthy and Eve Goodings.
01:33:37
Speaker 4: Welcome back. It's eight thirty nine. I am here with a wonderful Eve Goodings. We now have sixty percent of the Goodings family represented at five double A. We just need to get your other son and your daughter in here.
01:33:47
Speaker 9: As right, and then we just we'll buy the place.
01:33:50
Speaker 2: It's full takeover.
01:33:52
Speaker 9: It would be good. You've don't had the money.
01:33:54
Speaker 2: You've done a bit of radio yourself, haven't you loved it?
01:33:56
Speaker 9: I used to travel up to Matt Barker and do a program called Evi and Lee and a Great Maid of Mine, and we just loved it. And we used to do eight full stories in two hours. Seriously, Yeah, we really did.
01:34:12
Speaker 2: Was it music as well?
01:34:14
Speaker 9: We loved music. And what we used to do is compare it as a It would like be a blackano to the story that we did, Okay, so it would have to be marrying up to that story of what the music was. And I actually ended up hearing so many songs I'd never heard before because Lee's taste was totally different to mine.
01:34:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, how much? It was great.
01:34:33
Speaker 9: It was really really good, and we used to podcast it. We can still find it. We were because it was some time ago before it was a trend. And I even edited up my own shows, which, yeah, should.
01:34:44
Speaker 2: Be checking on your son's welfare.
01:34:46
Speaker 9: Oh my godness, has he done anything yet?
01:34:49
Speaker 2: We're about to find out? Will can you hear us? Where are you? Yeah? I can hear you. I almost died of exhaustion while listening to Muma Sprink or old radio program. I kid you not fired income if you cross down. Two minutes earlier, I nearly stabbed myself with the hooligan tool. I dropped it while we were standing here waiting. So I've been that's been taken off me. So we're going to get to that in just a moment. I feel absolutely ridiculous. Every time I look at the chief here, I think he looks like he's cast in a Hollywood movie to save people from buildings. I've never seen such a picture of confidence and calm. Have you ever had to rescue a fellow fireman, chief, because you might have to do it today.
01:35:30
Speaker 7: No, I've never had to rescue a fellow fireman. We've trained for it a lot, but I've never actually had to do it. Say I hope not to do it today.
01:35:37
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how eventful first day goes. We've got to zero one and two zero five either side of us here, and you can see if we pan up with the camera, that device that's going up into the other cherry picker style device is going to contain me very shortly. I've been told unfortunate. Well that too. Unfortunately. The weather's improved enough that we going up, so we might we might start the climb, because this isn't getting any lighter, this stuff. So I'm going to pass this over and let's get into it, shall we?
01:36:11
Speaker 9: Oh? My goodness, gracious, are you serious?
01:36:14
Speaker 4: All the colors you just strained out of his face? Folks, because if you were under the impression where you're not, as was I that because of the rain, that will wasn't going up.
01:36:21
Speaker 9: In the Yeah, that was exactly I'm going to get it.
01:36:28
Speaker 2: You can't stop it.
01:36:29
Speaker 4: Now they're going into the building, into the lifts and start about to head down the stairs.
01:36:34
Speaker 2: We go, oh, he's still got snow stairs yet, and I'm already puffing. Is that a bad sign?
01:36:38
Speaker 3: Is that?
01:36:39
Speaker 9: Is that an axe in your hand?
01:36:42
Speaker 2: Might be the hooligans? He was saving myself with the stair climb component of this five double A security. We can't God speed through the doors. All right, there we go, God speeds theme time.
01:36:54
Speaker 4: Well, it's so hard because we're going to lose contact with his son while he's a stairwell.
01:36:59
Speaker 9: I think it'll be done about one more stairs.
01:37:02
Speaker 2: Chief something's come off. So he's come off.
01:37:05
Speaker 9: He's dropped something, all right, out of breath already?
01:37:11
Speaker 2: How much at the top.
01:37:14
Speaker 4: Picks halfway up the first wider stairs?
01:37:16
Speaker 2: Five?
01:37:17
Speaker 9: The color of his faith, it's already read.
01:37:20
Speaker 2: He's pretty fit. Tho he is fit? Is about carrying all this all the difference. It's like carrying another pieces. It's about thirty like you would have too many hog horizons and Adelaide and you know.
01:37:32
Speaker 9: What climbing stairs is her then just tread milling and all that. Yeah, he's out of breath already.
01:37:40
Speaker 2: We want in a chair a picker to take me down. He just did? Did that come through what he just said? Yeah?
01:37:47
Speaker 4: He might actually need the cherry picker to take him down. Well, we'll continues with the walk. We are going to talk now to our next guest, Matt, who any of you will know, particularly given that he has become the crows lucky charm. Every time that Summer has played the saxophone this year at Adelaide Crow's home games, the Crows have won. He missed the Geelong game. Maybe he was the difference that night with the Cats coming back in the second quarter. But Matt, it's great to have you on the show again.
01:38:20
Speaker 2: Mate? How good was last Friday? First? How good?
01:38:23
Speaker 25: I was so stressed that first quarter, I was, I was sitting in the stands and I yeah, I was very I was looking, you know, trying to cancel my Grand Final accommodation. And then yeah, quickly got back on in the last last half. But it's great. It's great to see them, and that's a that's a real, you know, sort of a win that you want to see going into finals for sure.
01:38:48
Speaker 9: Yeah, little faith giving up after one, I know.
01:38:51
Speaker 25: Matt Steve, I'm sorry, but yeah I.
01:38:55
Speaker 2: Will. And don't worry.
01:38:57
Speaker 25: I'm happy. I'm happy to always admit when I was wrong and I was definitely right.
01:39:01
Speaker 9: Okay, So listen, how much is going to cost us or the footy to get you over for the finals.
01:39:09
Speaker 2: Look, I.
01:39:11
Speaker 25: I would almost, if you know, it, would almost just give up playing if they meant that they could win the premiership. You know that's all that really matters. But yeah, hopefully, hopefully, you know, we you know, we can get over there for the finals. And if we get two home finals that I reckon, that's that's you know a better chance than me hopefully getting you know, to be able to play. But yeah, we're just going on one more week to go, so we'll get through that first.
01:39:34
Speaker 4: Hey, that isn't the problem though, that because the AFL, not the clubs runs the finals that you probably wouldn't be able to do it because it's a croze thing not an AFL.
01:39:44
Speaker 2: We can.
01:39:46
Speaker 25: Correct. Andrew Dylon, I think was at the showdown, so I'm hoping that that's yeah for the especially for the home finals that they let you know, crews have their usual pre game with myself and the the drummers that played beforehand. But yeah, it is an AFL thing, so yes, correctly technically we that still needs to be sort of signed off, but I'm pretty confident that was shapefully well figure.
01:40:11
Speaker 4: That sounds great. A bit of breaking news, hey, Matt. Now, obviously the Anti Drive is on this week and the reason we've got you on and we're so excited about this. Would you like to be part Would you be prepared to be part of the police band ensemble that we're putting together this Friday playing an easy undisclosed tune to raise money for the Anti Drive.
01:40:36
Speaker 25: I would love to be a part of it, and it's so nice to actually get an opportunity to be part of such a good band. And you know, I was saying to John not the producer, about the Police band are seriously talented musicians. So I'm pretty nervous about this.
01:40:52
Speaker 9: I wouldn't be nervous if I was, especially John. I mean, Matt, you've been playing in front of about fifty thousand people before that. What was your biggest crowd.
01:41:04
Speaker 25: I've been pretty lucky. I've done a fair bit of work in Dying with one of my groups that I had, and we've got to play in front of six thousand people one of the vessels up there. That was pretty nerve racking. But yeah, look, generally most places, if you get you know, one hundred or a few hundred people at a pub or a bar, you know, that's that's sort of the standard for a few music. So yeah, it's pretty lucky to be part of the Crows pre game and have so many people, you know, cheering along and loving the music for the first bounce.
01:41:33
Speaker 9: We're loving having you. So thank you, Matt.
01:41:36
Speaker 4: Oh we ever, Matt, And it's gonna be great to meet your face to face on Friday. Mate, Thank you so much for agreeing We'll see you here Friday morning, Matt Summer, the Crows, lucky, charm and sex ofteners. The good news, Eve is your son is safe and sound and has made it to the top of the Nover building.
01:41:53
Speaker 2: Here in high I screen. You can tell from the panting you I've got a bring new fan appreciation for what these guys do. I got to the top and I said to the Chief, I can't imagine actually having to do anything at this point like that's ever to put out a firearm stuff that said, no need for the hose. I'd shake my head and just sweat all over them. I think they'd probably put it out. The other thing is Chief didn't even didn't even raise a sweat.
01:42:20
Speaker 8: Now years it was unbelievable.
01:42:26
Speaker 2: It's it is. There's a lot of gear, it's heavy, it's yeah, it's it's remarkable what you do, and that's it. It would all be worth it for saving something worthwhile. But look what they put up here. It's a picture of the bloody pandas I would have gone out to breakfast in stead. Unbelievable, that's just ridiculous. We're gonna make our way back down again, I think, And then I'm going up even higher in just a moment. So I trust you guys having fun and we're gonna go back down again. I'm not looking forward to this, mate. Well done. What about that?
01:42:58
Speaker 9: He's grabbed that and frame it. I'm going to frame it, take it and I'm going to put.
01:43:04
Speaker 16: It on the wall.
01:43:07
Speaker 4: So now now he's on the roof, he's going to come back down and he's going to be in in the bucket on the actual truck.
01:43:13
Speaker 2: Is he good with heights we did before? I don't know what was he like as a boy.
01:43:17
Speaker 4: Did he do adventure sports?
01:43:19
Speaker 2: He was a coward.
01:43:22
Speaker 4: Did he ever do rock climbing? School adventure program?
01:43:26
Speaker 9: We went to Disneyland. He was the only one that wouldn't go on some of the rides.
01:43:30
Speaker 2: He did have that terrible misshap on the zip at that time, didn't he do you know about that now?
01:43:36
Speaker 9: And it flipped or open something.
01:43:38
Speaker 4: Amazing that had kids after that? He did himself a terrible mischief.
01:43:43
Speaker 9: Well, yeah, but Disneyland safe as anything, and we're going on all these rides. Not will down there.
01:43:50
Speaker 4: He's probably sitting in the car park reading the Economist or something like that.
01:43:54
Speaker 9: Well, he was Prime Minister in year six at primary school. It was already there.
01:44:01
Speaker 2: Eight fifty Eve.
01:44:02
Speaker 4: We're going to be back after a short break and we will watch Will in the appliance soaring to dizzy heights, all in the name.
01:44:08
Speaker 2: Of the Andi Drive.
01:44:09
Speaker 1: It's game on at hey Yun Day with authors on you and demonstrator models. Visit you're participating Yun Day Dealer.
01:44:16
Speaker 3: Today five Double A Breakfast David Pemberthy and Eve Goodings.
01:44:23
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
01:44:23
Speaker 4: It's eight fifty three am on the five Double A Breakfast Show. I'm here with my excellent new co host Will Will Gooding's Muma Eve. There's been a coup. Will is out and Eve is in and she's often flying start.
01:44:34
Speaker 9: I'm here for agism, flying the flag, flying the flag for all women of Ay.
01:44:40
Speaker 4: That's right, great to have you here. We're going to cross back to Will now to see how your lad is going there.
01:44:46
Speaker 2: Will, How are you, mate? You are you? Are you in the appliance? Are you in the bucket? No, I'm just getting in the harness, which is it's it's a heavy enough harness that makes me realize we're in real peril. It's not one of those sort of muck around we're doing it just for show harnesses. We're going to get on board. Now Here we go. He's the father of a child, you know, the chiefs here, the chief one of these hasn't fallen over for ages, has it. That's good? That's promising. How much?
01:45:21
Speaker 9: How much are you raising for this? This is my child's life here?
01:45:27
Speaker 2: All right?
01:45:28
Speaker 18: Now?
01:45:28
Speaker 2: How do I click on? All right? Here we go? Where's the camera? There we go? You know, it's a nice bit of rain out here at the mat too. It's actually calling me off. It's excellent. Should I hold the camera? All right? I got camera mode happening here?
01:45:45
Speaker 4: Good luck made all right?
01:45:46
Speaker 2: Thank you?
01:45:47
Speaker 9: We go, little prayer for your honey.
01:45:51
Speaker 2: All right? Oh, hang on, we're on the move, all right. Here we go.
01:45:55
Speaker 7: Very experienced operating here with misstation officer care newly promoted station officer. It's only the second time he's used this piece of kids, the first experienced operator, but he is a new station officer and one of our amazing staff.
01:46:13
Speaker 2: We're coming up to about almost level three, which is no over to see them out the window?
01:46:20
Speaker 9: Maybe.
01:46:21
Speaker 2: How cool is this? You can almost hear the secrets out. Oh, there's mornings. It's Graham Goodings hilarious. Up in the window. I'm going to do a bit of a panoramic for you.
01:46:32
Speaker 11: Are that?
01:46:33
Speaker 2: Oh hell, we're getting really high now, it's just starting to get serious. Hang on, can they can they see in the studio? I can't quite. I can't quite see you through the window. They can't see because we've got the frosted glass for they would be in that window right there. Yeah, we're waving to get you.
01:46:56
Speaker 9: I'm going to put a light on.
01:46:58
Speaker 2: There's if he has prepared well for his show. This is why he's taking photos out of the balconem demo our.
01:47:04
Speaker 9: Tech any good? Can you see the light?
01:47:08
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we can see the light. The light. It's like the world's lamest concert. Oh my god, chief, how high does this thing go?
01:47:16
Speaker 7: This is actually one of our newer ones. And there are a couple of meters taller than the previous one. So, mister care the's a thirty seven or a thirty nine, forty five forty five.
01:47:31
Speaker 2: So that is the building at the very roof of Nova. Okay, over, here's the Mantra Hotel. Heineman Square now is way down there.
01:47:43
Speaker 11: Play times over?
01:47:47
Speaker 4: Oh boy, what's tricky? You're getting it up or getting it down well. As the actress said that, we was laboring the point we can.
01:48:03
Speaker 2: See the iPhone it might have blown away. So we look at the tallest buildings Nadelaide now and they don't look that far off. That is, I had no idea you could get this high. Hang on, what's going to lose the camera drop?
01:48:24
Speaker 7: It's pretty where with this we can't quite see the hills face from here because we've got a great, great view across the cityscope.
01:48:31
Speaker 2: How does that make it for people with verdigo dizzy? Oh boy, very dizzy.
01:48:36
Speaker 9: Don't need verdigo. I wouldn't do it well.
01:48:40
Speaker 4: Well and big thanks to the MFS. Jeff to you chief, big round in the sim Yeah, absolutely brilliant.
01:48:52
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
01:48:53
Speaker 4: Now we've got Paul Barton from sky City who is the head of food and Bredbridge, just to wrap things up today for the show. Because if we announced yesterday that the excellent Guardsman coffee down at the railway station they are giving away coffees before eleven am today, all proceeds from coffee sold there will go straight to the Undy Drive.
01:49:16
Speaker 2: Paul.
01:49:16
Speaker 4: We can't thank you enough mate. It's a terrific it's a terrific act on your part.
01:49:21
Speaker 26: Yeah, no, absolutely, you know it's something we've been sort of behind for a few years now. It's a really important initiative you guys are put together, so you know, we're more than happy to support it. So hopefully we get some more people down between seven and eleven today and we can get it get as much as we can into you guys to help out.
01:49:37
Speaker 2: Well.
01:49:37
Speaker 9: The weather's certainly making an enticing to come down to see you, to grab that hot cup.
01:49:42
Speaker 2: Of coffee and helping a pretty ordary.
01:49:45
Speaker 4: Good on your Paul, Thank you so much, Paul Barton from Sky City, head of Food and Beverage. Now, Eve, you said goodbye to your son, you now get to say hello to your husband because he's in there.
01:49:55
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's in the production booth.
01:49:57
Speaker 9: Thanks for letting me come in too. Here great today with your idea of taking half an hour, and it took me forty five minutes and a pultating heart, but we got here.
01:50:09
Speaker 2: Do you give you a doud driving interaction?
01:50:11
Speaker 25: You know what?
01:50:11
Speaker 9: Seriously, the man I said, what's the name of the street. I don't know. You just turned before Poulteney, and then I said, what about is it Curry Street? And he goes, no, you go around home that square whatever, that hurdle thing is down there, and then you turn down way that street? Is that waymouth? I don't know just how much time should I allow? Half an hour?
01:50:43
Speaker 2: Say home?
01:50:45
Speaker 9: You should have told me in the right time. You're silly, old baby.
01:50:48
Speaker 2: You don't go through right through red lights.
01:50:50
Speaker 9: I didn't a red light.
01:50:53
Speaker 4: It made you first for the five double Breakfast show Alive Ondio domestic.
01:50:59
Speaker 2: I don't allow for putting on makeup when I come into work.
01:51:01
Speaker 9: You know what, you get rung first thing in the morning, and you know I'm not a young woman, and and what I do. I can't come in not made up? Mind you? Look how I look?
01:51:12
Speaker 23: Here?
01:51:12
Speaker 9: Looks it's not good.
01:51:15
Speaker 2: Some speechless.
01:51:16
Speaker 9: Okay, that's good because you're going to talk for the next three hours.
01:51:19
Speaker 2: I am so sad that.
01:51:20
Speaker 4: We're out of time because this could have gone on all morning.
01:51:23
Speaker 2: Eve. Lovely to see you again. Catch up?
01:51:26
Speaker 9: Yeah I did too. Yeah you final will be our next one.
01:51:29
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, hopefully we should do this again sometime.
01:51:32
Speaker 2: We should actually yeah, just move well out.
01:51:35
Speaker 4: Well, I think he's got a bit of a few days off, unscheduled days off coming up.
01:51:41
Speaker 2: Do you want to do it? Yeah, I do it, but we should do it. I'll do it. I'm clearly not very good at anngry.
01:51:46
Speaker 9: Craig doesn't hear any of this.
01:51:48
Speaker 2: Well, let's take this offline. It's running away otherwise the news because Graham.
01:51:53
Speaker 4: Will be late and then there will be another domestic David
01:51:56
Speaker 5: Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast