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The views expressed in the following program are those of
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the participants and do not necessarily reflect the views of
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Saga nine sixty AM or its management.
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He Leana hello ed well, Leana. The world continues to
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spin and tilt on its axis. I'm starting to think
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that if they sent a probe up to take a
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picture of the Earth, it would look not like a sphere,
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but look in fact square like Bizarro World from the
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Superman comics.
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Because we're there, the world has gone nuts, and.
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Recently today, as we're recording this, an Alberta Conservative MP
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crossed the floor and is now going to sit as
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a Liberal MP, bringing the Liberals three seats short of
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a majority.
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Now there's a by election that's coming up soon, isn't
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there for Christia Freeland's seat, right.
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Yeah, but that's not really seen as being in danger.
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Right, But that's gonna up the total one more, because
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I thought they were three seats away before this, You.
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Know, I don't know.
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I think that even though she resigned, still considered a Liberal.
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Seat three vacancies awaiting by election calls.
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Here we are.
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Ridings formerly held by Freeland and Bill blair.
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N's two of them.
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Okay, Yeah, and they annulled the results of a Montreal
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area riding. So it's possible the Liberals can win all
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of these by elections and get a majority.
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Wait, so if there's a by election, it doesn't register
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as anybody holding that seat, any party.
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I guess not.
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Yeah, oh yeah, because yeah, the it's it one one,
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six nine the seat count.
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Okay, well they're they're damn close. It's it's very nearly
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a majority. And how do you you know, of course,
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pay his screaming that it's a betrayal.
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I mean, you can't really listen. That guy's just stopping
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his feet.
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He well, it's all he knows how to do. That's
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the problem.
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Well, I mean it's it's an indictment of his leadership
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that people keep leaving, and that after the first couple left,
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he didn't alter himself.
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In any way to stop it further from happening.
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Like a leader is supposed to keep people who were
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elected as MPs for their party as MPs for their party.
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That's a major role.
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But he's listen, he only got confirmed as leader through
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a very crooked pay as you go well process For.
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People who don't know what was that, Because I found
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this out from you.
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Oh that in order to vote for in the Conservative
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Leadership or sorry, Conservative Leadership Review.
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Of Paulia, people had to pay a thousand dollars.
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The review or to vote like at the convention.
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I don't know about the convention.
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I know that in order to vote for Pierre paul
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as leader or not, they had to pay a thousand
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dollars the Yeah, compared to other ticket, well, compared to
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other parties where they don't have to pay anything.
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Yeah, the ticket for the convention was nine hundred and
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ninety nine dollars.
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Yeah, that is effectively cutting out the so many who
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are considered themselves conservatives who just can't afford to spend
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a thousand bucks on a political weekend.
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Yeah that well, I mean what that does is it's
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only the diehards or you know, people with money instead
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of just the regular. Well, the it's not nothing. Oh,
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this is the Ontario Liberal Convention. The last one. It
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was one for you, two fifty for regular attendees.
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A little less than nine hundred ninety nine dollars.
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Well, yeah, discounts for donors.
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You see it.
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It was clearly put in there to to curate who
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was going to be voting. Oh yeah, it meant fewer
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people voted, and the people who voted were motivated. So
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either you were motivated because you wanted to vote for
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certain ridiculous maga planks in their policies, or you were
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motivated to either support or get rid of Poliev. But
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ultimately people who didn't have the scratch right didn't get to.
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Have their say.
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So it's not really reflective of any broad support in
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the Conservative Party for him as leader.
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But I you know, and it's not new.
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Every time somebody crosses the floor from one party to another,
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there's there's calls of this is not democracy, and in
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fact it's part of the Westminster Parliamentary system, so it
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is part of the democratic process.
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Now. I don't know how you feel.
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My feeling is that when you, as an individual who
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are an MP, find yourself no longer comfortable with the
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direction or leadership of the party you're in, you ought
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to resign because I think the people who voted for
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this individual. For any individual who crosses the floor, people
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rarely vote for the individual so much as they vote
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for what party they're voting for. And if the people
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in that constituency voted for a particular party or a
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person as a representative of a political certain party that
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ought that ought to stand and if you find you
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can no longer support that party, you ought to resign
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and let the people of that constituency make their decision
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as to.
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Who ought to go for it.
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If you want to run again as a member of
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an party, do that. But I just don't like this process.
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It is legal, it is part of the democratic process,
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but this seems to me if you've got a personal
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ethical problem with where your party is, okay, leave and
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then stand for election for the other party.
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That's my thought on it.
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Yeah, I'm a bit more. I don't know how you
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define my position. I tend to vote for the candidate
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first party second. Now tend to because I couldn't do
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it in the last provincial election.
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I really like my local member provincial parliament, but just
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couldn't with Doug Ford.
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And it's because he's such an outsized cartoon of a
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leader that it just like, let's face it and then
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you know anyway.
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But I do think.
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That geographic representation is important. I think it helps keep
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things honest and stops it from being this very partisan
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party first attitude that you're voting for the person to
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represent your part of Canada.
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And I know I'm in the minority here.
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I know a lot of people who sort of lean
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progressive want something different than the system we have. I
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think rank ballots would be the fix. But the Conservatives
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will never go for that.
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Well, okay, you'll have to explain that in a second,
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because yeah, that's true, but it proved to be factual
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when Trudeau wanted to change the system that the Conservatives.
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Wouldn't go far.
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But yeah, but I don't think there's anything terribly wrong
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with first past the post. That each system has flaws
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in it. There is this idea of reaching for this
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nirvana of perfect politicalsis. The voting system is absurd. They
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all bring with them deficiency, right right.
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There's pros and cons I mean rank balance. It's still
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a form of first past the post. There isn't a
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pool of proportional reps that are only loyal to the party.
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They don't have a local constituency. I am philosophically opposed
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to proportional voting because of that.
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I listen, I agree, I think proportional representation is absurd.
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And if you look at Israel's connesset and how small
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parties have hijacked.
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The entire country.
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You can see proportional representation is anti democratic.
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But that is why, even though I do see your
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point and emotionally I connect with it, I think floor
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crossings are okay because it's a way to kind of
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have continuity of government and not put the taxpayers out,
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because running by elections is more expensive than having elections
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across the board, right, like if you're having multiple elections
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in the same area. We have publicly funded election, so
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every time someone quits, its costs a taxpayer more money.
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So okay, I see that, But is the money more
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important than the will of the people in that discres.
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Well, and this is how this is the thing. Are
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Is it the will of the people that that.
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Person go into government or is it the will of
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the people that that party go into government? And I
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do think that the potential four floor crossing stops or
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at least puts a check on the incredibly polarizing partisan
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situation in places like the United States.
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Well, the thing is, people who have crossed the floor
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rarely do well in exactly when they run for the party.
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Yeah, yeah, And some people have bought that trend, and
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so because of that, I think the system works like
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some of these people who have crossed that the guy
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in Edmonton know though Edmonton is breaking away from the
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rest of Alberta in that, but like some of the
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floor crossers previously, they were pretty close, like they flipped
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back and forth between conservative and liberal. And then of
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course here the people who run in various ridings often
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do have ties to the local community culturally, but also
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you know, ideally they're involved there and so if you
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run the right candidates, people vote for them as well
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as the I have become completely disillusioned with voting for
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party platforms.
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Now.
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I don't know if you want to take a break
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and talk about that, because it's a different topic, but
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I don't know, I think it right right now, I
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think we need to put judicious spending over a philosophical
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Well you dance with the one who came yet who
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brought you?
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Yeah, well, judicious spending and you know what, let's talk
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about what that actually means, because it means yeties.
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So if if this excites you, stick around. Also, we're
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going to talk later about the you tell the Olympic fellow.
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Oh Iliam Allanin.
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Yeah, the self proclaimed quad god who might be who
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is regretting that choice right now because you know, the.
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Stress got to him and he didn't He won a
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gold medal in the team event. He clinched.
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He is a gold medalist at the Olympics, but it
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is solo performance as happens at the Olympics. He didn't
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have a good night, and he's talking a lot about it.
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All right, we will talk about that and other things
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which may or may not be related to politics. Stick around,
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we'll be back after.
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This stream us Live at SAGA nine six am dot CA.
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Okay.
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Judicious spending right, Judicious spending a term you used now.
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Governments of different stripes view judicious spending in different ways.
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You know, Conservatives view judicious spending as cutting anything that
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helps those who are in need.
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But lately oh SAP grants.
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Like oh SAP grants that Ford is doing.
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They they conservatives consider judicious spending cutting programming which benefits
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people in need.
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Guberals.
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Sometime there's there's an element of that in liberal policy.
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Well, I mean, Paul Martin notoriously made those cuts in
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the nineties.
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But yeah, that's problem.
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People were not thrilled about it at the time, but
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that was actually good financial policy in that they were
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smaller cuts than to put us in a very good
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position when COVID hit.
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Well, not just that, it was the cuts with Paul
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Martin under the Kredian government that allowed us to have
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a surplus in government's right so that when when recession.
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Hit, we had money down.
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Yeah, we had we.
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Had latitude to be able to continue going forward to
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not kill the economy.
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Yeah.
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And it was Harper who claimed that his government it's
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judicious spending, was the one that that saved us from
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the worst of the recession, when in fact he was
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spending the surplus cash that the government had a mask.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, tax cuts are not necessarily judicious spending. You need
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to have a tax base to have money to spend.
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And I mean, if if Ford is doing something as
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unpopular and unpopularist as educational grants and trying to say
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don't take basket weeding courses, and it's it's the way
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he's done it as well, that is just well, I'm
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gonna come right out and say it, dumb, there's gotta
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be bad news on the horizon.
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I think he's wiley. I think he's dumb as rocks,
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and like he knows certain like Trump, he knows certain
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levers will work for his benefit. So he hits those leavers.
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Know bro hits those vers.
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But this is not going to play well with that
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nine oh five, a bluish voter that keeps Ford in office.
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Well, okay, true, but what alternative do they have. They're
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gonna need to see an alternative that says they will
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restore the spending and will is that ever gonna happen?
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to twenty five percent grants in one fell swoop, that's
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just that's messing up people in their like.
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Second year of universities.
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So those people, those doctors of tomorrow that we need
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who apply in third year, are now having to scramble
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to get money.
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Which is a good thing to do at a time
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when the province has a extreme shortage of doctors.
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This is clever.
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But also if you want people to not take basket
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weaving courses, if you want to incentivize particular courses, keep
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the gris grants on those.
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Brother Well, yeah, it's not this this wide swath with
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us with a Scythe is it's typical.
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But it looks like panic to me, because this is
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what I mean. We need workers.
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We've slowed immigration, right, so we need skilled workers. Making
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it too expensive to go to school is not going
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to get us there, and having people with crushing debt loads.
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Coming out of undergrad that's not good long term.
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We know what that does.
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We're replacing too expensive rents with too expensive education. What
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are they doing the next budget? Because of you know,
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real estate is having a correction. There aren't as many
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foreign students. And I called this ed. I said, you're
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going to see a hole. Do you remember that? I
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said you're going to see a hole in the provincial
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government when the two things that were covering up that
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whole are now receding. Do you remember I said that?
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Yes?
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I remember you said that, Yes, very clearly, and you
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know what I mean. It was it was clear to
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anybody who looked at the situation that was gonna happen.
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What what? What? What? I wonder?
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What's what I'm really trying to figure out? And I'm
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thinking hard about this is what new policy liberalizing alcohol
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consumption will roll out now to cover up the pain
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that he's going to cause families who have students, because
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that's what that's what he does. It's always it's always something.
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It's always something like at this point, what is he
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is he going to subsidize buying beer? Like, what is
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the next policy he's going to roll out to distract
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people so that they think about alcohol and how that
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affect Because you know, like I said before, why does
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he do these things with the booze? Because people, people
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who who drink alcohol often do it habitually, be for
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the weekend, whatever. So every time they go to a
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convenience store now and they find that there's beer there,
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it's being reinforced in their head that this is.
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A positive thing.
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And in the back of their head Doug Ford did
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this for me, Okay, So it's a repetition of a
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subconsciousness of this is something that was done to me.
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Whereas certain like if you don't having if you're not
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a student and don't have a child who is a student,
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the effect of the damage that is being done by this,
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this slash of support for OSIP isn't going to affect
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you in a way.
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You know every day, okay, but more people are students
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than Ben.
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You think I got a friend she's in her fifties.
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She's on an o SAP skills upgrade program. So you know,
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it's not just young people.
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I think everybody's everybody knows someone who interfaces with OSAP.
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I mean that that was a huge thing for me.
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My parents, on paper, didn't make enough, made too much
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money for me to qualify. But you know, I found
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out very last minute, Oh they weren't going.
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To give me squat.
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So I it was the amount of stress that the
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having to pay for school as well as going to
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school and not just getting good grades.
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I had to get grades.
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That were so ridiculous to continue to, you know, continue
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to have enough to go because I was commuting as well,
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so chop ninety minutes at the beginning and end of
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my day, so three hours out of my day just
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going back and forth to school and then paying for
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school and then.
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Doing the school where I cracked up. I couldn't take it.
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I don't know anybody who really can, to be honest
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with you, that's a fair burden to put on anybody
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of any age. And the thing is what he's doing
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here is there are people who will not know that
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their lives are being affected by these cuts. To educational
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support because it translates it cascades to use the term,
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and it has an infrastructure effect. There's a damage to
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the infrastructure going forward when we have fewer doctors because
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people couldn't afford to go to medical school, right and
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we've already got a crisis of doctors. People will be
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feeling the pain of not having a family doctor, but
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they won't necessarily realize the seeds of this were sown
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by a dug Ford cut.
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This is the thing they do, These things that.
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Don't that have an effect, far reaching effect on the economy,
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far reaching effect on people, and yet people don't necessarily
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connect it.
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But the role of the media is supposed to be
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to make those connections for people.
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Another connection. The in demand fields are more expensive. Hence
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why if you want people to go into those fields,
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then pay for it, give them the incentives to do it.
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That is why Mexico is just surging right now because
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they know trades are gonna come, trades are gonna go,
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the requirements of their economy are gonna constantly shift, so
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they're going to pay for people's retraining so they always
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have qualified employees for whatever the local economy demands. This
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is judicious spending.
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Yes, that is that is clever. It is addressing needs
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as opposed to people's fields, whichever party happens to be
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in power. And it's listen, we've we've got so many
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problems right now in this province that have their roots
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years ago.
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This is create hitting them though, right, because people have
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student debt, they don't buy homes, real estate donors who
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back dug Ford, you know, they don't buy cars because
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they're a huge portion of their income if they can
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even get a job. We have a youth unemployment problem.
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A huge portion of their income goes to servicing that debt.
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Ye, not smart.
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Our governments are all stripes. Historically kick the can down
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the road. They there and anytime a government approaches a
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particular shee says, we can't kick the can down the
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road anymore. Right, we're gonna we're gonna take us debt.
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We're gonna try to correct this now because it's getting
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bigger and bigger and more and more out of control.
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They get punished at the ballot box because there's always
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some idiot like Ford coming along saying some folksy phrase
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and having a barbecue and saying that the others, the
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other party is spending too much money, you know, and
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in case the case.
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Of Ford gets elected and spends more.
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But there's always somebody able to trick enough of the
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electorate who are dis you know, disenfranchised to that they're
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gonna fix everything.
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Well, let's be clear, I do strongly believe that the
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post secondary system in this province and possibly in this
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country is I'm gonna use the cliche, it's broken.
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It's busted.
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It's not really working for anybody, not even the schools anymore,
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because they turn the foreign student tap off. However, you
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can't just do this sudden jolt to the system. You
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have to I I was planning for years how I
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was going to afford school. You can't just yank the
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rug out from students with only a few months.
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It just shows that this government is really out of
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touch with the way people are living right now.
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Oh what an indication of that. Doug Ford citing people
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lying on the couch watching the flintstones or basket weaving courses.
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This is the kind of thing a boomer's boomer says.
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Somebody votes for him, Well, yeah, he's somebody, somebody who
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is completely out of touch thinks that the world is
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not fundamentally or in any way significantly changed since they
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were a student. They refuse to believe that students today,
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the world today is a very different place. They think
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that it all comes down to the basics read and
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write and rithmetic and merit and hard work, and they
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don't recognize, they refuse to recognize that the problem in
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the economy is not people lying on the couch watching
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the flintstones. First of all, the flintstones. Who that's not something,
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well exactly, it's as dated as the attitude basket weaving courses.
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Basket weaving courses were things that happened in California in
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the sixties.
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I don't even know that was really a thing.
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I thought, yeah, there was a course for basket weaving
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or something. Now that's where it came from. Okay, and
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you know what there are. I'm sure that there are
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some courses which are lighter than others, but I don't
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believe there's any basket weaving course now. Of course, a
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conservative will think that any sociology course is basket weaving.
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Anything that would allow people to have an education or
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gain information or perspective. Actually, how the society is where
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it is they don't like those.
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I actually think they're referring to the trendy interdisciplinary studies
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courses that are a specific topic, like you know, African
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studies or women's studies or Latin American studies.
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Or stuff like that.
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I think when they say basket weaving courses, they.
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Mean not So they don't mean basket weaving courses. What
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they mean is courses that that are typically seen as
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being left of center.
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I think there's an argument to be made.
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Having taken like electives in courses that were offered in
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some of these things, they do kind of lack academic
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rigor and.
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They are very big on the opinion of the professor.
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So, like I said, the system does need reform. It
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is gonna be rough, it is going to be painful.
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But education is not serving the student anymore.
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Which means it's no longer serving society. Well, that's right,
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A well educated population is.
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It is insurance.
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It is a guard rail against what's going on in
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the United States. I mean, we are as a population
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better educated here.
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But this is not the way to do it. This
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is not the way to reform education.
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It is not reforming education. This is an assault on education.
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Yeah, and I say, this is somebody who taught at
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the post secondary level, right, Like, I just see the
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churn of students and I did my best as a
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guest lecturer to sort of give them something that actually
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use and apply, not just in that course, but sort
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of broader thinking. But that's the thing we really have
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to realize. Education is not just about getting a job.
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Companies should be training more. Companies push too much of
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the responsibility of that onto the schools, and schools push
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the responsibility for that onto the students. That's not good
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for an economy. But school is about transferable skills. It's
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about how to solve problems, how to think, how to
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work with other people.
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That is the point I was going to make right
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that you made it, you know, let's go to a
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break because I want to discuss that, because if school
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had been sold to me in a different way, my
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attitude towards school would have been very different and it
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would have had an impact on me long term. So
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let's talk about that when we come back.
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Hello, Oh, when you say that, it's not a question,
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so just.
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Yes, okay, I'm just not used to you accepting like that.
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But anyway, every week, I know, but hope springs eternal.
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I just the problem is when it's dead silent. I'm
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afraid that we got like the signal got cut off
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and you didn't hear what I.
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Said, Why are you killing time?
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Ed? Because we have to fill it? Okay, back after this.
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Stream us live at Saga nine six am dot CA.
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Okay, So what we were talking about before, I believe
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like when I was in school, they emphasized knowing the
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things we were being taught, that Pythagorean theorem, knowing that
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was essential, and that knowing the mid Witch Cuckoo's Book
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was essential. I shouldn't pick on books because the books
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that I forced me to read were actually valuable things
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like Orwell, wouldn't have read them on my own. Been
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extremely useful in understanding the world, but a lot of
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mathematical principles I didn't really need to memorize Shakespeare. And
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as a cynical sock puppet, I'm sure you're surprised that
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was my attitude. My attitude was, why are you wasting
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my time here with things I don't think I'm ever
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gonna frigging need now. Of course, that's the arrogance of
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being youth, thinking you know what you're gonna need in
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the future.
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00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:51.519
Yeah, I would have said to you, if you think
498
00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:54.400
you can get through life never having to make do
499
00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:58.319
with something that bores you, wake up now.
500
00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:03.920
That is the cogent point that was never made to me,
501
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:08.119
because they emphasized that the information I was supposed to
502
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:12.200
regurgitate was important as opposed to what was important was
503
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:16.200
learning how to deal with the quick information, how to research,
504
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:19.319
how to present it, how to deal with things that bored.
505
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:20.920
Me, how to prioritize.
506
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:25.279
All of those things are important skills, transferable skills. As
507
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:28.880
you said, that that help you going forward. If it
508
00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:31.839
had been presented to me that, Okay, what you're learning
509
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:35.680
here is not the important part. What's really important is
510
00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:39.160
learning how to learn, and learning how to research, and
511
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:42.519
learning how to approach tasks. If that had been sold
512
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:43.839
to me, I would have been like, you know what,
513
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:46.680
that is practical and that makes sense to me.
514
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:50.200
Well, and learning how to keep an open mind of
515
00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:54.519
you know, you may not think this is interesting or
516
00:30:54.680 --> 00:31:00.000
useful now, but maybe it will be given a chance.
517
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:03.359
Well, I'll say this, I have never in my life
518
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:05.759
needed to use Pythagorean theorem.
519
00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:08.359
I have oh, how.
520
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:14.200
Well, like making like costumes and sets and things like that.
521
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.839
You know, you do need to be able to do
522
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:21.279
things with right angle trial triangles and whatnot.
523
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:23.279
But you need pythagoron theorem. Can't you just look and
524
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:24.440
see this is what this needs?
525
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:28.200
Well, not necessarily you have to if you're extrapolating a measurement,
526
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:32.200
then you know you will need it.
527
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:33.079
Well.
528
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:37.640
When I asked my math teacher, why what use will
529
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:42.200
I have for Pythagorean theorem, her answer was you'll be
530
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:45.519
able to plot distance on maps.
531
00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:49.480
And my thought was, okay, yeah, I'm out of here mad.
532
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:52.920
But you know, any cosplayer is going to use the
533
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:55.960
concept of Pythagoras every.
534
00:31:55.720 --> 00:32:00.319
Time you make like an anime belt The concepts.
535
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:01.599
Okay, the concepts there.
536
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:03.519
I think it's something that people can probably pick up
537
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:06.920
on the necessity of without applying a mathematical formula.
538
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:08.759
The heck of a lot faster if you understand the
539
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:09.559
principles at play.
540
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:09.839
Though.
541
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:13.200
Okay, I'm not a cause players. I've never had to
542
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:15.640
do that, so I can't speak to that. But I
543
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:21.240
myself have never found myself saying, you know, WWPD, what
544
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:22.480
would pythagorists do?
545
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:22.920
Well?
546
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.480
I mean, whenever you make one of those big belts
547
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:28.519
or a big sword or something like that, and like, okay,
548
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:33.319
I need the longest side to be this long to say,
549
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:37.359
go around my waist. So how long you know to
550
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:39.599
make the correct angle with the rest of it?
551
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:40.880
How long does that have to be?
552
00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:43.839
And if you're just doing trial and error, you're wasting
553
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:44.680
a ton of fabric.
554
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:48.079
Well, wouldn't you just take a tape measure and go
555
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.000
around the area where the belt is gonna go and
556
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:50.559
that's how long it?
557
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:54.400
That's well, yeah, along your waist, but then you have
558
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:59.079
to make it go down at a certain angle. And like, yes,
559
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:02.440
you map it on paper or cheap fabric first, but
560
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:06.400
it's a lot quicker if you understand the geometry at play.
561
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:12.000
I think it's safe to say that your intelligence is
562
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:14.519
a few steps above the average joke.
563
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:17.319
Okay, but cosplay is relevant for people.
564
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:22.160
And the point is it's using your brain, it's doing
565
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:28.240
a difficult concept, it's enjoying puzzles, it's not getting the
566
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:33.240
overwhelming anxiety that so many people do when they face
567
00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:34.519
a novel problem.
568
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:35.680
Well, I think you.
569
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:37.640
Hit the nail on the head there about something, which
570
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:41.759
is how you frame a task is gonna is gonna
571
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:45.519
shape how you approach it. And if you approach something
572
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:48.440
as like it's something that you consider boring, all right,
573
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:52.440
you approach it as well, this is how can I
574
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:56.440
get through this and make it less boring? What stakes
575
00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:59.839
can I attach to this? What reward will I give
576
00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:02.200
myself afterwards.
577
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:02.400
For doing this?
578
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:06.279
Even a skill is simple as knowing what to do
579
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:10.039
when you don't know what to do can be invaluable.
580
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:14.599
Knowing what to do when you don't know what is that?
581
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:21.159
Well, when you encounter a novel situation, yes, right, I
582
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:25.000
work with people every week who struggle with this. So
583
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:28.679
there's an event and they don't know anybody, and they
584
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:32.000
don't know the venue, and so they just get riddled
585
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:33.480
with anxiety because they don't know what to do.
586
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:36.400
Instead of knowing what to do when you don't know
587
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:36.719
what to.
588
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.519
Do and they don't know where to look to find
589
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:41.840
a solution as to what would ease it for.
590
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:45.000
Them, Well, something as simple as showing up and just
591
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:48.079
asking people where do I go to sign up? That
592
00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:52.960
is so anxiety inducing that they just don't go.
593
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:59.800
You know, I recognize that there's generations that has s
594
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.679
exceeded us come after us that that is a common thing.
595
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:08.880
And yeah, I feel awful that the gen X and
596
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:15.199
millennials have birth generations raised generations that are so scared
597
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:16.360
of their own shadow.
598
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:18.639
And it's not innate, it's not genetic.
599
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:20.880
It's not everything though.
600
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:25.760
It's not everything though, right, because I mean my social
601
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:29.920
media manager Megan is like, I think she's like twenty four.
602
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.760
Now, oh, it's not everyone, no, So.
603
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:37.320
She introduces me to new things all the time.
604
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:41.679
Like, there's certain new things that that generation is great with.
605
00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:46.039
There are certain things they have been so traumatized by
606
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:50.119
certain processes that they think they should know stuff they
607
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:51.960
can't possibly know.
608
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:56.239
Why they think that. What's an example of that, I'm curious.
609
00:35:56.360 --> 00:36:00.599
Well, apparently there was a thing when they were in
610
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:04.960
school where they wouldn't know something and the teacher would
611
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:07.480
get frustrated and say you should know this by now.
612
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:11.719
That's helpful because because if they don't currently know it,
613
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:14.280
telling them they should know it this is really a
614
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:15.599
way to build a self esteem.
615
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:20.960
Well, but they also recognize that if they gave an
616
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:25.039
answer and it was wrong, there'd be like embarrassment or
617
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:30.280
some sort of negative consequence. But if they just said nothing,
618
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:33.480
eventually someone gets so frustrated that they.
619
00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:33.920
Do it for them.
620
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:38.880
Oh that's like a triple T one of my callers
621
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:43.280
the All Night Show. Okay, he knew that.
622
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:47.599
For Valentine's Day, he was he told his wife Mea,
623
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:50.400
that we're gonna go to this special I guess expensive
624
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:53.280
seafood store and you can get lobster tales, you can
625
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:56.239
get shrimped, you can get muscles, and I'm gonna make dinner.
626
00:36:56.679 --> 00:36:58.599
And he knew. I said, now you a good cook.
627
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:00.719
He says, I can cook. It's not saying you're a
628
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:01.239
good cook.
629
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:04.440
He knew that once he got into the kitchen and
630
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:06.719
started trying to cook and making a mess of it,
631
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:08.599
his wife was gonna come in and say, get out
632
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:10.400
of here. I'm gonna take care you're making a mess.
633
00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:14.480
So that's the same kind of thing. He didn't say nothing,
634
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:18.000
but he created a situation or knew he was going
635
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:20.400
in to a situation where somebody else would do it
636
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:22.039
for him because he didn't do it right.
637
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:28.760
Yeah, it's called learned helplessness and it and manipulation. But yeah, yes,
638
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:34.719
but it gets reinforced until finally you run into a
639
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:39.159
wall where you can't just helpless yourself out of it,
640
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:42.280
and then that gets intense.
641
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:46.079
Ye's not that song from Stranger Things keep running to
642
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:46.719
that wall.
643
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:51.599
No, no, do not Kate Bush me please alrite that song.
644
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:56.719
But yeah, it's it's really unfortunate because you know it's Oh,
645
00:37:56.880 --> 00:37:59.599
just go down to the store and drop off an application.
646
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:00.599
Yeah, thank you.
647
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:03.519
That world's gone right.
648
00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:07.760
Nobody drops in paper applications. He's not not not widespread.
649
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:11.280
Well, they're also saying this to people who have sent
650
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:17.000
out two hundred applications, gotten zero response to most of
651
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:19.280
them and about sixteen rejections.
652
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:23.360
I like nothing better than a child of privilege who
653
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:26.960
was raised in wealth telling other people how easy it
654
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:27.880
is to get a job.
655
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:33.519
Yeah, nothing's easy anymore. But that's what people need to understand.
656
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:37.559
And it's interesting because like, look, my social media manitors.
657
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:41.239
She suggests things for me to look into to make
658
00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:45.400
social media content, and I've discovered a lot of cool things.
659
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:49.079
But it's like, how do you pronounce this guy's name?
660
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.559
A thing? Oh? I found a perfect guy.
661
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:55.679
If you're if you're concerned, go to the YouTube channel
662
00:38:55.719 --> 00:39:00.599
of Julian michel am I. Okay, he does video about
663
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:02.039
how do you pronounce this word?
664
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:04.920
That you want to, Oh, okay, but these are like
665
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:06.760
like people's online handles.
666
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:08.920
They're weird, like they're hard to pronounce.
667
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:11.960
Well, they're they're not. It's phanetic.
668
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:14.800
But is there a lot of x'es in it?
669
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:15.440
Sometimes?
670
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:16.480
Yeah, yeah, ex'es are.
671
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:21.360
But the latest one what Make It says you should
672
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:25.320
do something on boy Throb and I said, I'm not
673
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:26.000
afraid to go.
674
00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:28.920
Yeah, that sounds like some guys go through and adolescence.
675
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:31.000
I said, I'm afraid to google that.
676
00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:32.360
What is it?
677
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:35.360
And it's as very endearing.
678
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:39.440
They're a boy band, but they're more like like a
679
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:42.679
late eighties nineties boy band in that they're a little
680
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:43.880
rough and a little awkward.
681
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:46.679
They're not as polished as the K pop wave.
682
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:50.519
And I just I didn't get anything bad in my
683
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:55.199
Google searches. But they're they're trying to get one of
684
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:58.920
their members on oh one visa so they can get
685
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:00.920
into the US because he's still in India.
686
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:06.159
Well, what I love is boy bands who are marketed
687
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:08.360
as being more rough and awkward.
688
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:11.519
Well, I just I fell in love with this guy.
689
00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:13.639
These guys my first time is Oh my god, it's
690
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:15.199
Elton John meets the Wiggles.
691
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:17.920
I need to look more. But then I told my
692
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:19.199
friend Eileen.
693
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.960
About there's this thing I just found out about boy Throb,
694
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:26.639
and I didn't go, you might not want to google
695
00:40:26.679 --> 00:40:29.800
that without putting boy Throb boy band in.
696
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:33.280
She just was like boy Throb. She goes, do not
697
00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:34.000
google that.
698
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:37.000
Yeah, make sure your safe search is on. All Right,
699
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:38.840
we have to go to a break.
700
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:41.800
We're gonna come back talk about that Olympic guy, the
701
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:45.559
God of the Quad or whatever, the Quad God. What
702
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:49.760
happens when people are calling you the quad fraud. Let's
703
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:52.360
we'll talk about that when we come back. Okay, see
704
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:53.840
this time, I want you to say something.
705
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:56.320
Okay, thank you.
706
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:05.599
Stream us live at SAGA nine am dot C.
707
00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:14.199
All right, Leanna, I'm not really following the Olympics. I've
708
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:17.960
never cared about the Olympics much. But there's a story
709
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:20.320
about the Quad God.
710
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:21.480
What is this story?
711
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:26.639
Oh Ilium Malanin and his sort of rise and fall
712
00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:30.079
and then it seems like, you know, moral victory.
713
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:31.920
He's like figure skating Rocky.
714
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:34.119
All right, what's the story here?
715
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:35.519
Okay, So this.
716
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:39.840
Guy self proclaimed quad God, he's twenty one years old.
717
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:43.039
He called himself the Quad God.
718
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:47.239
Yeah, I think it was sort of somewhat joking, but
719
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:53.039
of course the media just picked up on it because
720
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:59.440
he's really good at four rotations in the air, so
721
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:03.840
quadru jumps, especially the quadruple axle, which I believe is
722
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:05.400
one where you actually have to do four and a
723
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:11.679
half rotations because it takes off forward instead of backwards. Okay, yeah,
724
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:16.519
but he had a bad night in the free skate
725
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:22.599
on the men's final and ended up eight instead of first, so.
726
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:23.880
Not really godlike.
727
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:27.199
Well that that was the thing, Like, he had a
728
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:33.199
slight mistake in they won team gold, and he clinched
729
00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:35.559
the team gold for them, but he made a slight
730
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:37.960
mistake and everybody was like, oh, he's mortal.
731
00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:40.440
It's a twenty one year old guy, right.
732
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:41.719
What country is he from?
733
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:44.519
Is a Team America?
734
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:46.639
Okay, in USA.
735
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:53.360
And it was very cute yesterday because two days ago,
736
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:56.519
Simone Biles crashed an interview that he was doing at
737
00:42:56.519 --> 00:42:58.800
the Access Hollywood, And of course Simone Biles had her
738
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:03.880
own struggles with the twisties back at the Summer Olympics,
739
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:07.280
and so that was a nice moment, but it started
740
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:14.079
this whole discussion about pressure and mental health, and you know,
741
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:17.119
because one of the things he said is that if
742
00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:20.840
he'd been able to go to the Tokyo Games and
743
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:25.079
get another one under his belt, he probably wouldn't have
744
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:30.320
been so, you know, thrown this time. And apparently some
745
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:33.440
social media commentary really got to him.
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Commentary, I'm being nice.
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It was hate and so someone he read the comments,
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and I haven't been able to find out exactly he
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referenced it. He called it vile online hatred. I don't
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know exactly what was said about him, but I mean,
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anybody who's been on social media who attempts to do
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anything and remotely cool, I think we can figure it out.
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But you're I mean, the whole thing is, don't read
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your comments because people tend to put things there they
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don't even necessarily know that they mean them.
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They know that they'll hurt you.
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You know what, though, I again, he's twenty one. How
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do you tell a twenty one year old just don't
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read social media?
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Well, the thing is, he's twenty one, but he's also
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a disciplined athlete, so I could I think that you
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could tell him in general, twenty one year.
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Are no way as somebody who was a team competitor
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in dance, And then you know was working in television
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at that age. It your brain is not fully developed.
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So much damage is done by people going, oh, well
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you're this and you're still only twenty one years old,
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and you have no idea how young that is.
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When you're at that.
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Age, Well, it's the oldest you've ever been, right.
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But I think that people like us who are well
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on the far side of twenty one should recognize that
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that no elite athlete is not is not enough it.
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I mean I remember.
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Watching like the back of the Battle of the Brian
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days and that heated competition and I think, yeah, Brian
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Boitano and Brian Orser, so you are oh years ago, yeah, yeah, ye,
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I mean Brian Orser, who is experienced fell during that
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as well. I mean Canadian figure skaters tend to have
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it rough at the Olympics. But you know, this poor kid,
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I watched the lead up to it, and I'm not
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insulting him by saying he's a kid. Scientifically, his brain
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is not fully developed. This matters the the the attention
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this guy had on him. You know, just because a
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teenager calls himself the quad God doesn't mean the world
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has to pick that up.
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Well, there but you're come on that if you're gonna
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say that, there's no resisting social media. Looking at social media,
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there's no resisting when the media picks up on somebody
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who's so confident, lash over confident that they give themselves
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a name, a nickname that rhymes yeah.
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But but I mean, my brain is full of Warhammer
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forty k right now, Like everybody knows you don't call
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yourself a god.
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That's the great way to fill the heresy, you know.
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Okay, yeah, a good idea, not to call yourself a god.
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Okay, Guys like this in Warhammer forty K who were this,
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like I'd full about being perfect, end up, you know,
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falling to Slanashian turning into a giant snake man.
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Okay, now you're way over the line as far as
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getting into Lord.
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Nobody knows what you're talking about.
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Okay, but that's okay. But it's just like.
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I don't understand other than TV coverage.
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I mean, there was another guy was in Norwegian.
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I'm not sure, but I mean, Norway's having a heck
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of an Olympic Games. But one one guy he was
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upset and so he walked off. I think it was
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a ski hill and went into the woods, and cameras
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followed him into the woods, right, like, there's no privacy
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in these moments.
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Wow.
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No, with modern media, there's no respect for personal spake.
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We know that is.
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Why you cannot understand what that's like until you've been
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through it.
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Well, listen, I imagine that these people train, and that
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they dream their whole young lives of being in the
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Olympics and taking the gold. And they train and they're
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disciplined and they work hard. I imagine when you get
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there and it doesn't work out the way you are hoping,
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that's gotta hurt.
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Well.
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Sure, but and also there goes your endorsements, which are
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which are important because it's hard to it.
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It's expensive to train. See.
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I I don't necessarily think so, because I think that
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the same way Simon Biles called attention to mental health issues.
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I mean, this is just pressure. The guy doesn't have
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a mental health condition, that this is just sometimes it
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gets to you. I do also think that this is
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an indication that people who think you can just fire
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stuff on social media and growth figure skued you should care.
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I could take it. Why can't you?
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No, you are hurting people and at this point, you're
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doing it knowingly.
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There has been.
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Enough examples of this to reasonably say no, it is
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not a harmless activity.
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Stop it.
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Well, also, I can take it, why can't you? These
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people can never take it? Oh, these guys, these people,
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the people who dish it out are cowards. They can
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never take the slightest bit of criticism. The reason they're
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taking shots at people is because they feel so low
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about themselves.
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These guys crack the minute there is any critical focus
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on them.
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It happens all the time because I read people's comments
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on a YouTube channel and I address them, and these
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guys melt down. They cannot handle it. And even if
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they think, even if they're acting all big, I can
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tell it bothers them. They are not used to being
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the focus. They are not used to taking what they
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dish out. And there is no lower form of scum
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than people like that.
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Well, and on that happy note, we will thank everybody
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for listening. Leanna can be found with her podcast It's
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Not Therapy. Every episode I learned one or two things
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