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Speaker 1: Let's talk with Heather. Dr bro starts now oh and back again to finish sharp conversation. It's Liz stry.
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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm so happy to be here. Oh well, can I tell you something about how kids never like grow up and leave? He texted me the other night from his tent at twelve thirty.
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Speaker 1: They're intense, They're intense.
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Speaker 2: This is a kid who doesn't go outside. I'm so proud of him. And so where do they go to the bathroom? Well, to your point, to your question, he said, he texted me I can't sleep, and I was like, Hi, what's happening? And he goes, there's a thunderstorm outside and it's and I have to pee? What am I supposed to do? I'm frantic my son has to pee.
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Speaker 1: You're a dude.
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Speaker 2: I'm like holding out the door, as I said, like, just open the tent right it's raining, I'm going to get wet. Well it sounds like you're going to get wet anyway, so just outside. But it turned then it turns out they had to go into the van for like twenty minutes because the rain got so bad. Like what am I paying for?
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Speaker 1: How much?
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Speaker 2: Was put him in a halfway house. How much was it was like it was like over it was a few thousand dollars.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy how much how much it was. And it's like now in Costa Rica, now no one else.
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Speaker 2: Can go anywhere. This is why I haven't been to Europe but Costa Rica. Really.
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Speaker 1: So she's going, you know, like she's one of.
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Speaker 2: Those sea trips like no turtles.
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Speaker 1: No. She she's like she went to brown one summer, and then last summer she went to Northwestern from a film program which was long. It was like five weeks, that kind of thing. It was great, it's great. And then this summer she goes, you know, I want to just do something a little bit different. So she and a friend decided to go on a service trip. But it feels more like a teen tour sledh right, service trips.
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Speaker 2: It like a uh oh my god for humanity that helped habitats.
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Speaker 1: Habitats. No, I don't know. They're like they're doing all different things. They're working at animal rescue one day and then on another day they were making painting and constructing bike racks and they were putting misissas on the door. Are they choosing Coasta Rica? Well, right now there is. But they had to do that for a school that's in town. And they also got to go like white Water rafting, okay for having ziplining for humanity. So like it was like it felt like a teen race. And she's the oldest one there right the other kids are a little younger, and so.
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Speaker 2: She having fun.
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Speaker 1: She having fun. That's just coming home tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: Why don't they go to I tell you the story. Why don't they go to Sleepway Camp like every other I wish my kids went to Sleepway Camp on the East Coast. For they did? They did?
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Speaker 1: They did the eight No, they never did the eight weeks because that's not what they do in California.
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Speaker 2: Two weeks at a time.
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Speaker 1: And it's not even in two weeks, it's twelve days because they leave one day and they come back.
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Speaker 2: Oh they leave on a Sunday and they come back on Saturday morning.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not twelve it's and a half.
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Speaker 2: My daughter is doing. She's a CIT at her elementary school camp, which is daycare happy place. Yeah, so her elementary school has a day camp and she's a CIT and she's back with her buddies and they're all there and it is the best.
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Speaker 1: That is the cutest thing.
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Speaker 2: It's the cutest, and it's very A lot of the kids like all go back and their counselor's there for the kid Like I love, very cute, but I feel really old when I pick her up, because all the moms now are like young, and.
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Speaker 1: I always felt like that. I always felt like the old mom. How old were you when you had the kids?
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Speaker 2: I had them when I was thirty five and thirty seven.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I did thirty four the twins thirty seven cat right, obviously the same age and forty two.
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Speaker 2: I wish I did that. I wish I had a third one just to like get it, or to still have another one that's still young.
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Speaker 1: That. Yeah, I could be an empty nester right now. I mean, I love my kids, but I could. Terry definitely could.
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Speaker 2: But that's great because you guys like really enjoy each other's company. I don't know what we would talk about.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the problem. The one problem though, I mean, obviously I'm joking ish, but the one problem is because our age spread is so much. Yeah, like when they're all really little, it's okay, right because the youngest one just goes along with it, yes, and then the oldest ones were like seven and whatever. Right, and then you get in these awkward times, right that. We've gone through a couple of times, and we're in one right now because the twins are about to be twenty one.
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Speaker 2: Remember when you're going to college and you're buying things on dormify.
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Speaker 1: Yes, wow, when they were going to college. Yeah, I was like, we didn't have dormify.
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Speaker 2: You didn't know?
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Speaker 1: Yes, No, yeah, I know. Isn't that crazy? There are going to be twenty one, Cat's going to be everyone's about to turn the next age in the fall. So twins are going to be twenty one. Cat's going to be eighteen, an Ace in December will be fourteen. Okay, so it's like too little I know. But the top three drive, they're independent. Cat's playing college, she's got one more year and then she's gone, and then he's home for another four years after that. Yes, it's a long time. And then also I have to start carpooling again. Oh yes, because Cat's gonna leave and then he's only fourteen and a half.
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Speaker 2: Right, I can't. My son does not drive yet. I'm not pushing it. He's like learning to drive and stuff like that. But his friends drive now, and it's so weird. It's crazy a little bit, is it. Yes, I feel like him out on. He won't go in a car with me, he won't drive. I feel like I will be more prolific if when my kids are gone, when they go to college, because that's my excuse for not getting things done, is that they're around.
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Speaker 1: Then what do you do when you don't have the excuse.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'll I have another, I'll adopt. I don't know. I don't know what i'll do. I don't know what i'll do. I mean, not that there's much in my business right now, but you know, well, back to the kids.
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Speaker 1: For me, it's like I, like I was saying, we're sort of at this awkward stage. It's really hard to do things. Yes together, Oh so I'm weirdly and I don't like to fast forward. And I'm not saying that, but I do look forward to the time where they're all over twenty one, right, because then they're all the same age.
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Speaker 2: Yes, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Over twenty one, you're all the same, We're all the same age. It just doesn't matter yes, and I enjoy all the ages and like, I'm so excited for Kat and can't wait to see where she ends up going to school.
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Speaker 2: Where does she want to go?
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Speaker 1: She wants to go to.
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Speaker 2: USC Film Oh wow, Oh that's great.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got like a two percent acceptance.
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Speaker 2: Right, Well, you see she'll get in. Will you see her? You know what? Jesse would never do this, but they say that, like if you go to like community like Santa Monica College, which she's not going to want to do, oh.
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Speaker 1: A trojan transfer. Yeah, she will get into USC.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: She's exemplary student, honestly, and we don't have things. Yeah, she's like one of those kids, right, But it's the film school.
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Speaker 2: Can she transfer in? No, you can't transfer in freshman year after freshman year. I do that at Syracuse.
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Speaker 1: Their film program is very specific. Oh actually, I don't know if they do transfers. I don't think Are you sure? I don't think so. But she wants to get in, and I think if she doesn't get in there, you know she's gots you know, NYU Columbia, she gets like some other film schools on our list.
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Speaker 2: So will you see her very often? If she's at USC or you don't think so?
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Speaker 1: Oh totally. I mean Nikki's at LMU. We have dinner with them.
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Speaker 2: All the time. Oh that's nice.
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Speaker 1: Oh it's great.
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Speaker 2: But are you in your house up in Beverly Hills or so?
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Speaker 1: We are moving out right now?
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Speaker 2: Why?
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Speaker 1: Because we're ready to start construction. Oh now, how many years is construction? It should take eighteen months, so it'll be two and a half years.
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Speaker 2: I was going to say, I was going to say nine, where are you moving? Okay?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but didn't you have a place in that?
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Speaker 2: Awesome?
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Speaker 1: We were still city yep.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean that's the best. That's amazing. That's a hotel. Yeah, they should have that in Kansas.
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Speaker 1: Actually, I can tell you it doesn't really matter. We're moving in there. Oh I got another place in the building, like on a different floor, so I rented that.
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Speaker 2: That's so good, it's so good. I'm so excited an apartment.
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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to live in an apartment. I'm curious to see Terry and the kids handle apartment living.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, never lived in a massive house. Yeah, I would love to live in an apartment with First of all, I'm a total crosshouse yeller across the house.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.
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Speaker 2: Nobody can hear me. Nobody can hear me. Nobody hear what Terry says.
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Speaker 1: I do all the time. This is one of my worst qualities. I will ask him something literally the moment he walks out of the.
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Speaker 2: Room, and then I get mad that Todd can't hear me.
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Speaker 1: Right, it's soda boche, it's yeah.
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Speaker 2: And then like, I mean, it's too late for me not to be a yeller because every day I'm every year, I'm like, I'm not going to curse anymore, and I'm not going to yell across the house two minutes I curse yellow. I'm a cross house yeller. I just am and he hates it. I'm not going to walk all the way, even if it's not a big house. I'm not going to walk all the way into the room to talk to you. I have to go upstairs.
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Speaker 1: Or but like you have a phone in your head.
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Speaker 2: Why we text a lot? Yeah, there's a lot of texting.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, except I text to Except I read a thing the other day saying that when you call your kids, like the dopamine hit for them is better if you call them versus text. Now I feel guilty about it.
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Speaker 2: That's so interesting. I but it's an Instagram thing.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just an Instagram thing that's trying to make me feel defisient as a.
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Speaker 2: Parent or what right do you shot? I bought this ice pod bucket thing on Instagram? What's tell my husband for? It's like an ice plunge thing. It's like a rubber thing that you get into. Okay, but in tiny writing it says, if you want the thing that makes the water cold, it's two thousand dollars. But the ice bucket itself, because you could buy it at like Target, it's a mop like bucket that you could fit in, is one hundred and twenty nine dollars. So I got it. I got the system, but I didn't get the thing that was two thousand dollars. And Todd's like, you got me a bowl, like you got me a rubber You got me some like a mop, like you get me a mop. I'm going to go and return it.
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Speaker 1: No, I'm going to go to seven eleven. I'm going to get you a bag ice.
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Speaker 2: That's the problem though, is that it doesn't keep the ice cold. Oh so it's just a rubber bucket.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a return.
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Speaker 2: So I shopped on Instagram. I do that all the time.
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Speaker 1: I shop on Instagram all the time.
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Speaker 2: You ever get anything good?
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Speaker 1: I do?
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Speaker 2: You do?
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Speaker 1: I actually do. I bought bikinis from a company called Vecchi. Vecchi not sponsored, it's like Vetchy. They were fantastic. Really, I buy everything from Instagram you want to. If you want to anyone out there wants to bump up their sales, just make sure I get the ad. You should.
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Speaker 2: And also, I think that my algorithm sends me really like not great things.
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Speaker 1: Will you got to start looking at different things?
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Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, okay.
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Speaker 1: In your Explore page, like you gotta look at different okay, And that way they send you better things.
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Speaker 2: To shop for. Because I got a de stressing dog pillow that I ordered last night, two of them for you the dog, one for each dog. But you know what, that's not a bad idea because dogs.
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Speaker 1: Are stressing you out. Maybe you need the pillow. I might need the well, listen to this. I bought the cube pillow and I was obsessed. Started it's like.
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Speaker 2: Good for your next I need that on Instagram.
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Speaker 1: I got on Instagram. But it's called the my cube pillow Okay, but here's.
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Speaker 2: The thing, because my pillow situation has been compromised. Someone took one of my pillows, and now I can't watch TV.
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Speaker 1: Because you have pillow watching TV's and a pillow watch TV watching pillows and sleeping pillows.
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Speaker 2: No, my sleeping pillar don't allow me to watch TV on them. I don't have other pillows. I can't find the perfect pillow, even the ones that you stuck.
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Speaker 1: You made need a decorative pillow to prop yourself up to watch DV. You could do that and then remove it. I'll have to get what I'm thinking that's active pillow. Okay, but here's the thing. So I started sleeping on this thing and I love it and I've told so many people to be And then I always sleep on silk. So I get the silk pillow.
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Speaker 2: Case with your hair.
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Speaker 1: No for my face? Why because I don't like cheat scars?
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Speaker 2: Oh okay, but like because I feel like my side I sleep on is definitely more.
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Speaker 1: Apparently that's true with all of us. But I don't want those lines on my face. So I always sleep on the silk. But then I was at Pilates. I'm now a Pilates price. You you are Oh, I'm gonna tell you.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: So I'm at the pilates and this woman and usually it's only twenty six year old supermodels and me, but this one particular day there was someone more my age. She was saying something about her neck. I go, oh, you got to get this. Pillows so great. So she gets the pillow and then I see her like a couple weeks later, and she tells me that she had to throw it out because she was having nightmares about what.
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Speaker 2: I don't She said she had terrible oh stop it from the sleeping on the pillow.
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Speaker 1: And now I'm scared to say I'm my pillow again.
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Speaker 2: And then she got rid of the pillow and I don't know, you know, it all goes back to but now lizard people.
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Speaker 1: Could really but I was so obsessed with this pillow. When it comes, and this is why I was thinking about Jesse. I was like, when it comes, it's it's shrink wrapped. So I started buying them and taking them on vacation.
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Speaker 2: It's shrink wrapped like things from gold Belly, like food.
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Speaker 1: Exactly, so it's small.
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Speaker 2: And then you zip it, unzip it, and then you pull it out and it poofs up.
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Speaker 1: It poofs up.
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Speaker 2: And it fits the side size of your head.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you can get a small one, but there's I like the normal size one.
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Speaker 2: It's good and the and it conforms to your.
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Speaker 1: No, what it does is and you're it's only for side sleepers. Yeah, because when you're laying on your side and your your head is below sort of your spine being straight, that's when you get pain. So it keeps your spine straight.
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Speaker 2: I'm a side TV watcher, which is hard because my glasses, So my glasses go like this. That's the one, and then I can't. You need to get bunny what her bunny eyes?
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Speaker 1: Bunny eyes?
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Speaker 2: Is that Instagram?
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Speaker 1: No, that's my friend your bunny don't know Jenny Koppleman, Jenny Hutt.
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Speaker 2: I mean.
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Speaker 1: Just Jenny. She has showed just Jenny.
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Speaker 2: Is she the one that's friends with Jen Peloton? Yes, she calls her all the time. That's is she from her school?
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Speaker 1: Honey? You know she's Stacy Koppleman's sister.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I was gonna say, you didn't tell me two cars in call it she had a BMW Stacy did, and.
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Speaker 1: I was gonna see she had a range Drover. I remember that because I'd never seen a range Rover. Another girl at our in our s that had a SOB convertible. Oh, I remember, because I had a regular SOB I love. I don't even think I have windows. I think I had rolled up windows probably. Yeah, I don't think my dad sprung for the electric windows.
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Speaker 2: So our Okay, so Stacy complements. She's fine, right, don't have to worry about her.
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Speaker 1: She's fabulous. No, Stacy's great, But so Jenny, her younger sister. Yeah, the two of them, they have a company called Bunny Eyes, named after their mom, Bunny. Do you remember Bunny?
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Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, that's so sweet.
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Speaker 1: It's so sweet. But there there are glasses again, not sponsored, but there they have glasses that are they go so they flip up, they flip down, and you can actually move one arm or both arms down like opera glasses. So you could get your hair colored. Oh, or if you want to lay on your side, you can do.
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Speaker 2: Also.
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Speaker 1: Just go message Jenny, she'll send them to Okay, I will or Stacey.
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Speaker 2: I So when I lie down on my pillow, it's this side. I pull my cheek back and then place my head down. But I mean so much so that I don't get that wrinkle, but I get it anyway because I move in the middle of the night. It's not like I'm going to stay. But okay, So here's what happened with this person. We went to college.
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Speaker 1: With my must know.
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Speaker 2: Best friend in Sleepway Camp. Was she was, and then you're best friend in college and then obviously friends in college and a mutual So this friend of mine here text me was the name.
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Speaker 1: Of Sleepwoy Camp Crane Lake.
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Speaker 2: I don't remember that, okay, so they okay, So he texts me one morning a picture of her and her husband. Who's he my friend, our mutual friend who I didn't know was a mutual friend. This guy text me a picture of him and his wife and her and her husband. Oh my god, this person I didn't know you knew that. I didn't know you knew them. And he goes, yeah, he goes had dinner with them last night or something, and I said, I want.
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Speaker 1: To see her.
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Speaker 2: We were best friends in Sleepway Camp and friends in college and then like the distinction, and then he sends us a text on a chain because she was here for the weekend, and he says, here, you go and it was connecting us and I said hi exclamation point, and she said, Hi, Hope you and your family are well, David. That's the mutual friend. Great seeing you and your wife last night. When can I see you before we leave Monday? So like then, I'm like, what did I do to her? She didn't want to see me. Hope you and your family air. She was here for the weekend. Okay, so she was here. He sent me a picture of the You left out that detail. Oh okay, let me start over. She lives on the East Coast. She lives in Westchester. She's your visiting. He sends me a picture.
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Speaker 1: Of where were they at dinner?
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Speaker 2: No idea, So it's him and his wife. So he sends me a picture. My friend David sends me to Israel. So my friend David sends me a picture of these two couples and they're here in La. They're here in La for the weekend for a wedding.
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Speaker 1: And You're like, hey, that's my friend. He connects you, and then she turns around and goes, oh, Liz, hope you guys are well. Hey, David, see each other again.
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Speaker 2: And I said to him, oh my god, I would love to see them, and I'd love to see her. I haven't seen her in many, many years, And so he connected us and then now you guys are connected.
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Speaker 1: Whatever, even like a bullshit, let's get a coffee?
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Speaker 2: Oh? Nothing, nothing, nothing, not even an open ended question like how are you? It was I hope you're well, which I don't think she does.
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Speaker 1: What did I do to her?
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Speaker 2: I don't know?
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Speaker 1: What did you do? What did I what did you do?
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Speaker 2: Like my biggest fear always I'm just not I don't rate, like I'm not good enough.
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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what happened. But there was no I didn't write back, Wow, I know, I know here. Yeah, so I just also another friend of mine is in town who has a house here, is in town, and I saw on Instagram that she was in town. So I wrote you're here, and then immediately I regretted it because then she would probably feel like obligated to see me. The next morning, I got a text inviting us for dinner. Obviously because I said, you're here, so we're going to dinner. But I thought, for a second, should I ask her if she only invited us? Oh?
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Speaker 1: My gosh, I'm not.
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Speaker 2: I'm not.
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Speaker 1: We're just no, I get it. No, No, I'm right, I'm I am in.
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Speaker 2: Bed with you because I'm imagining the side text of like you guys. I'm sorry, I have to, Liz, I have to. I understand if you don't want to come, but I had to because I didn't think she'd take me up. I thought she would know that. I just invited her because she said hi on Instagram.
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Speaker 1: So again, but I love her because Instagram is not only my shopping, it's my therapy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I had seen something could have been on TikTok that was like, it has to do with our anxiety, that makes us feel that way, Yeah, that makes us sections everything. Why can't it just be like because what it could have been was you're here, and then she was like, you know what.
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Speaker 2: We are here, let's have a let's have a dinner party.
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Speaker 1: Yes, it could have been that hard dinner party could have jumped off just from your message. You could have said, hey, let's have listen to her husband over and then and then her husband said, oh yeah, great, Well why don't we have a few couples over and like make it fun because we have been seen and you.
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Speaker 2: Know sometimes and like I don't want to be alone with her.
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Speaker 1: No, See, this is where our brains go back.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like because I know, I feel this way, like if I I don't have that many this is why I was doing that lunch bunch thing. Yes, because I can't do twelve lunches and fourteen dinners and three coffees and whatever it is. You know, I'm busy, So sometimes it's nice to get a bunch of people together, right, and that way you get to see everyone.
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Speaker 2: Right, that's true. I'm gonna go got to be.
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Speaker 1: More conscident, to be more What are you going to bring to her house?
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Speaker 2: Oh? She said to bring dessert. Where's good dessert? That's not like Susie cakes, big chill frozen yogurt that I eat in the car on the way there.
00:21:12
Speaker 1: I think you should just bring gift certificates. She lives in the selisides. Just bring sides.
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Speaker 2: I'll just bring a bunch of Look how big these sides are, well they were big.
00:21:24
Speaker 1: Desserts are difficult these days. I feel like all the real popular things have all died out, Like do people still eat those eight thousand calorie Krumble cookies. Do you know each one is like three thousand calories?
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Speaker 2: Three thousand calories.
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Speaker 1: I could be exaggerate.
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Speaker 2: No, I think you're right. I think I'll bring them. Isn't that like you know people who bring stuff like that? But those are people who want to watch other people eat.
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Speaker 1: You eat them tonight.
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Speaker 2: Late and then I'm soxious that I eat the icing. I eat the frosting off of all of them at the table, Like, just help myself, that's so something. Just stick my fingers on the top of a cookie and just pinch all the frosting and eat it.
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Speaker 1: I'll wind up.
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Speaker 2: I'll wind up eating all of the frosting off of the cookies with my front teeth like a rabbit.
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Speaker 1: Like just listen. I've been known to take oreos and make like twelve stuffs just in between two of the actual cookies.
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Speaker 2: You start just like like lifting the stuff at it. What what or do I do that? Do? I say? You know what? Nobody brings supermarket desert me more. I am bringing you on Instagram that you can take a supermarket cake and judge it up to make it look fancy.
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Speaker 1: No, yeah, but all.
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Speaker 2: If I buy a supermarket cake like a Ralphs cake. I will immediately drive to the nearest dumpster and sit next to it and say, after this, it's going in the dumpster. After this, it's going to.
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Speaker 1: The You have to do it in a public dumpster, or else you might go back in.
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Speaker 2: I might go back in. You get it. But I always feel like if I'm eating a sheet cake has to be next to a dumpter. I don't dumpster. I don't know what that says about me.
00:23:04
Speaker 1: No, it goes back to these eating things that we all have. I remember one time the twins were like one and a half and I was pregnant with Cat. Right, does that make it two? There were two? So I don't know if something like that there were two. I was party with Cat and we were in our house on Port Streets and me and my friend Marla were We got cupcakes.
00:23:28
Speaker 2: The kids, right, but there was a lot of cups. They the crumbs ones.
00:23:31
Speaker 1: No, they didn't have crumbs back then. This is like they're going to be twenty nineteen years ago. They weren't even Susie cakes. Okay, I don't you know who knows soul butter, yes, full butter good. Yeah, So I remember me and Marla standing over the sink, just shoveling the cupcakes fast as we could, because it was like a tyme thing like you're dumpster. Ours was like for the sink all the time fast. Yes, if there was like as if there's a time limit, like if you eat it in seven set whatever, you can eat in seven seconds the same amount of calories. Yes, that's actually probably true. Oh it's so sad. But I also feel like you don't enjoy it, and then you feel like choke it.
00:24:13
Speaker 2: You know what the problem is with the dumpster. It's too high to go back in and get it.
00:24:18
Speaker 1: That's what's right.
00:24:19
Speaker 2: That's what's right. That's why I knew there was a reason. Oh my god. Right, I wrote this pilot once where I it was about a weight group that gets together in an apartment building in New York, like all these people who decide to like be a support Yes, yeah, I love that. So it didn't get made. But anyway, so the main character throws a cake in the garbage and then sprays cleaning fluid on it so she doesn't need it, and then I was like toying with the idea of her going back in. Yeah, but the executive at the network said, ill, I've never seen anyone do that before, And I said, not only is that not true, you've done that before. It didn't get med. I think you've eaten cake out of the garbage.
00:25:07
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. Yeah. I don't think Terry has.
00:25:09
Speaker 2: I'm sure not. I'm not a man.
00:25:10
Speaker 1: I don't think men do.
00:25:11
Speaker 2: God, I've done it in front of people. You have, well, yeah, I feel like you get to a point in your marriage where you can eat cake out of them.
00:25:18
Speaker 1: No you can't. Oh see, that can't problem. No, you can't eat, you can't poop, and by the never, and you can't eat cake out of the garbage. That's it, you know.
00:25:27
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that I have, but I will say once I was at work on the show and I shared I gave my friend a cookie that I got from the Big Chill, one of those like very forty thousand dollars one hundred and one hundred and forty calories. But it also in tiny writing it says that there's ten servings. So they gave her one of these cookies, which I coveted, and they don't make them anymore. So I started to leave my office and I heard the thunk of the cookie go into the garbage, the empty garbage, and I was so mad because first of all, it's an expensive cookie, and second of all, you totally should have just given it back to me, and she threw it out on it.
00:26:05
Speaker 1: So all I did.
00:26:06
Speaker 2: The entire time we were working when I came back in was wait for her to leave so I could get the cookie out of the empty garbage. I'm not saying whether I did or whether I did. It was empty, it was a new bag, and it was still in the wrapper, but it wasn't but I think I did. But then if she came back in and went to throw something in the garbage and then saw the cookie was gone, what would I say. I don't know. I'd have to press a fire alarm. I don't know what.
00:26:40
Speaker 1: I would do. I don't know.
00:26:41
Speaker 2: I'd kick her out. I'd find some other dirt on her and threaten her with it.
00:26:45
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't know. So crazy. Now, what's going on with work?
00:26:50
Speaker 2: I just finished a pilot, writing a pilot that just went into the network, and then I'm like developing other stuff. But it's really hard out there. It's very hard. I'm developing some other stuff, but like it's I thought you and your brother were doing My brother and I are doing something together. We're going to be pitching in August. That's exciting, I hope so. But it's like free until unless we sell it's and then you don't get paid for a long time. It's very The TV business is sadly like are the old days that we knew and loved are gone?
00:27:20
Speaker 1: Gone?
00:27:21
Speaker 2: I hope not forever, because there's no more. There's no more TV. There's no more fall TV, no more like ABC is doing one half of a night of comedy. I think in the fall. It's crazy like from eight to nine. Maybe because it's all about I might be wrong, but the companies that bought the companies that bought the studios and networks and stuff, they don't care about quality. They just want They just want to make money, so they want things like game shows that they can air on like my show Pivoting. Everyone says that's but it honestly did get canceled because of money, and it's so heartbreaking. I knows if they had kept it, I would be a lot happier and many more people would be working. But it's just so crazy. That money is you would never you never would have thought that back in the day.
00:28:09
Speaker 1: Well, I think your point is very very valid. It's that now that these huge parent companies are companies like Amazon, yes, you know, when the bulk of their business isn't.
00:28:22
Speaker 2: Now TV shows, they don't care, but people need to care again, it's like a lemonade stand to them. They don't care. And even Amazon wasn't even hearing pitches the latest I heard. Or Hulu. Yeah, and I had a meeting with this guy I love at Hulu and he was like, we're not even.
00:28:37
Speaker 1: For scripted or just for scrypted.
00:28:40
Speaker 2: And also they said, yeah, one network that I was working with, so we don't even have a plan for pilots. There's no So there's no frenzy anymore. There's not like you get notes now and then you hand them in by tonight and then they're making decisions this day and then there's like this round of notes and how many notes did you get and how long were you on It's very like it back to us whatever. But then you don't get paid, so you know, and the pay is not what it used to be. It's just nothing. As those days are kind of over, like if I could be a novelist now I don't know if maybe that, but I do want to be back in a room with funny people. That doesn't really happen anything.
00:29:16
Speaker 1: Either, I know, even pitching. I mean, yeah, this is the whole zoom zoom pitching. It's so hard because and as an actor, like I know people, oh you everyone gets to get put on tape and it's not that I'm so in it right now, but even still, there's something about the energy of being in a room, yes, with lives people and doing a performance and they get some kind of riz from you exact that even if like you're even if the performance wasn't exactly right, or it was like there's something about that guy or that girl that I just am attracted to on some level that's gone.
00:29:54
Speaker 2: Yeah. My brother and I had a zoom with Paul Fieg, this directors company, and it was on zoom, but it was an inform It was just like a meeting just to like a just to kind of float this idea by them. But they were on the zoom. Their heads are in the like just full screen waiting, so they were waiting to hear a pitch from us. And it was like we were floundering, and we were. There's no zoom should not exist anymore. For meetings, you should have to go in person. I agree, it's just it's I saw my therapist for my psychiatrist for the first time in person in years. How is that? It was kind of great? I mean it was great, you know. I mean she looked great, so that was good. I mean, she hadn't aged a ton. She didn't say the same thing back to me, though, so she was just like she saw me. Boy, let's get you on something different. She takes out a phone book size of lists of everything I've been on, and it's like, I tried this, tried this because I've been going to her for twenty years, so literally it's a giant.
00:30:59
Speaker 1: Do you feel like with therapists, like, are you supposed to be with the same person forever? Well?
00:31:03
Speaker 2: I was for a psychiatrist. I think yes, because that's like meds and stuff. She's a very heavy pen. I like her, but and I played after field of time doctor feel good.
00:31:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.
00:31:15
Speaker 2: But therapists, no, because I was with the same therapist for twenty years and since I was four, and we kind of ended badly because I felt like at the end we were bickering a lot, and she was kind of telling me things, not telling me what I wanted to hear, what she should have learned in twenty years. But also I had like resentment, and I just I felt like she was annoyed. It just was too long, Yeah, too long. So but then the problem with I waited five years to find someone new because I didn't want to download someone else.
00:31:49
Speaker 1: Well, that's all thing, I swear. I think that's why I only went to therapy one time. Ever, Oh really, yeah, I may have told you the story, but I was trying to my show had been canceled.
00:31:59
Speaker 2: I was and I VF.
00:32:01
Speaker 1: I was like, oh God, like going through what am I doing with my life? I A and and so this it was actually Jenny's boyfriend at the time. Manager sent me to this guy. He told Terry, you know, Heather should go see this guy. Did and I did three sessions with him, and then Terry got the bilt was five hundred dollars a session, and Terry's like, you're cured, You're fine, You're fine, You're cured, and so, but to be honest with you, I was so uncomfortable because I had never done therapy before. I felt like I was performing, like I live an hour of had there and let me do some of this and let me do things and hour and I funny and bye bye, see you next week. And I assume that it takes a long time. And then also, like you're saying, like it's a it's like being in a new relationship. I really want to have to go backwards and tell you everything there. I also feel like that some things should stay slam shut.
00:32:55
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, and I do. I'm better about that. But I my therapist, I wore in the same area, so I wore like a hat and sunglasses. I didn't want her to see me, but I wanted to see someone else. I wanted to go to a man to see what that was like. So no, never again. So I go to this man.
00:33:12
Speaker 1: I went to a male gynecologist. Once.
00:33:13
Speaker 2: I go to one doctor Greene. He's been around forever in love fam interesting. So I go. It's like the one time I have no humility, not the one time, but anyway, So he so this therapist, I talk and he just puts his head in his hands and he goes. So under medic you're so into medically, you're so undermedicated. And I'm like, I'm very highly medicated. And he's like, oh, oh my god. He just starts laughing at me.
00:33:47
Speaker 1: It's terrible. And he was so just get up and walk out.
00:33:50
Speaker 2: I didn't, but that was part of my thing. So I just was he wanted me to go to this different doctor and get on more meds. And he goes, you are operating here, and you could be operating, your productivity could be here, and I was so mad. And then the next time and then I texted him and I said, I'm really angry. And I told him that I was really angry, and we texted and then I was like, this is the therapy to get me to start being angry. But it wasn't because then I went back again and he just let every time I talked to put his head in his hands and said, so undermedicated.
00:34:24
Speaker 1: That is so inappropriate. Did you tell your other doctor? No?
00:34:29
Speaker 2: But she knew I had gone to someone else. I went back to her and she was just sitting in her chair like, so, how have you been? Where have you been? But I never told her and she I think she's probably like eighty.
00:34:41
Speaker 1: Now. I kind of want to text her.
00:34:43
Speaker 2: Sometimes. I did text her during the pandemic and said how are you? And she said alive. It was another thing like our friend from college help your family as well.
00:34:51
Speaker 1: I think you knew. Sometimes I found someone in the circle.
00:34:54
Speaker 2: I found someone knew who. I'm worried is going to be too nice. That's an I'm worried this therapist is going to be too nice to me.
00:35:05
Speaker 1: Right because they have to tell you.
00:35:07
Speaker 2: I want her to give me advice, Yeah, that I could not take right.
00:35:11
Speaker 1: Could you tell me what I'm not going to do?
00:35:14
Speaker 2: Please, what I'm not going to do? Tell me what would be the right thing to do. But she's very nice and she tilts her head a lot, So I don't know.
00:35:21
Speaker 1: Every time I think about going into therapy, I think I just don't and I'm totally for it, and yeah, so my kids have done it. I'm I'm like one hundred percent for it. But I just for me, I feel like there are certain the only things that I could really like go through are things from the past, and I don't really want it. What do you have to is that a thing? Do you have to solve everything and go over it and figure it all out? Is it enough to be like, all right, I was there then I'm here now, yes, and I feel good that.
00:35:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can do that. I don't think it's important to dredge up the past unless you have patterns.
00:36:02
Speaker 1: That are affecting your president future.
00:36:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I tend to go back to the same thing of like I'm not good enough and I can't do this, and I'm a fraud and I'm.
00:36:10
Speaker 1: Don't isn't that a performer thing? Yeah, artistic thing, but I'm you know.
00:36:14
Speaker 2: But there's also childhood things of like I'm never going to be anything. I'm never going to be I'm lazy, I'm this and not. I need her to say no, you're not, and then I can leave and be like I'm so ey. But I've only gone to her twice because then she went to Ireland for a month. All right, Well, I hope that goes well, we'll see I love you, I love you.
00:36:32
Speaker 1: When's Jesse coming home?
00:36:34
Speaker 2: He's coming home July fifth. I'm loving it.
00:36:37
Speaker 1: What are you doing for July fourth?
00:36:38
Speaker 2: I don't even know yet.
00:36:39
Speaker 1: It's not terrible, No, it's not. You do We're going to be in Idaho.
00:36:42
Speaker 2: You're going to be an Idaho so it's the trip. It's like a trip.
00:36:45
Speaker 1: This is the trip. So so we're moving. We're going to Idaho, Okay, and then we're gonna get settled into apartment living. M hmm and that. And you know, it's funny. One of the kids said to me recently, like, oh, I'm excited for that because it's like when we were as soon when we moved out of the Crystal Cove house we were in the first rental house. Room was small, right, and they liked it because everyone was.
00:37:08
Speaker 2: They say, families are happier that live in smaller places.
00:37:11
Speaker 1: By the way, we were really happy in twenty two thousand. Right now, there was a lot of joy. I didn't say who they are.
00:37:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of joking around.
00:37:21
Speaker 1: There was like joy, I said, I was like joy. But yeah, so I think they're excited about this. That should be good. And then I also I rented a house in Malibu for like five days in August, so I thought for the family, and I thought, you know, because Nikki's going abroad this semester, Max is going abroad second semester.
00:37:42
Speaker 2: I was going to ask if you're ever all together, but you're probably all together a lot.
00:37:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we are.
00:37:46
Speaker 2: I love that, you know, dinner and stuff we do.
00:37:49
Speaker 1: So this summer's been a good in and out. Everyone's you know, kind of doing their thing. But we've had some together time. But obviously Idaho, you know, was like focused time all together, small quarters. And then I think this Malibu thing, I think that'll be fun. So that's the summer, and then Great Housewives starting July eleventh, yay, just a few short weeks away.
00:38:11
Speaker 2: Yay.
00:38:12
Speaker 1: Bickle up up. Tell everyone how to find your book.
00:38:16
Speaker 2: My book is Stay at Work, Mom, Marriage, Kids and other Disasters. It's a memoir and you can get it out of Amazon. You can get it at Barnes and Noble or yeah, anywhere online again and have it find you on social Liz Astrof on Instagram. I'm not on Facebook anymore. I was hacked by a hockey player in Calgary. No, a hockey fan in Calgary. Sorry, yeah, whole thing, but yeah, Liz Astrof on Instagram. All right, I love doing this. It's so fun.
00:38:48
Speaker 1: See you guys next day.
Speaker 1: Let's talk with Heather. Dr bro starts now oh and back again to finish sharp conversation. It's Liz stry.
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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm so happy to be here. Oh well, can I tell you something about how kids never like grow up and leave? He texted me the other night from his tent at twelve thirty.
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Speaker 1: They're intense, They're intense.
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Speaker 2: This is a kid who doesn't go outside. I'm so proud of him. And so where do they go to the bathroom? Well, to your point, to your question, he said, he texted me I can't sleep, and I was like, Hi, what's happening? And he goes, there's a thunderstorm outside and it's and I have to pee? What am I supposed to do? I'm frantic my son has to pee.
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Speaker 1: You're a dude.
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Speaker 2: I'm like holding out the door, as I said, like, just open the tent right it's raining, I'm going to get wet. Well it sounds like you're going to get wet anyway, so just outside. But it turned then it turns out they had to go into the van for like twenty minutes because the rain got so bad. Like what am I paying for?
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Speaker 1: How much?
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Speaker 2: Was put him in a halfway house. How much was it was like it was like over it was a few thousand dollars.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy how much how much it was. And it's like now in Costa Rica, now no one else.
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Speaker 2: Can go anywhere. This is why I haven't been to Europe but Costa Rica. Really.
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Speaker 1: So she's going, you know, like she's one of.
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Speaker 2: Those sea trips like no turtles.
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Speaker 1: No. She she's like she went to brown one summer, and then last summer she went to Northwestern from a film program which was long. It was like five weeks, that kind of thing. It was great, it's great. And then this summer she goes, you know, I want to just do something a little bit different. So she and a friend decided to go on a service trip. But it feels more like a teen tour sledh right, service trips.
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Speaker 2: It like a uh oh my god for humanity that helped habitats.
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Speaker 1: Habitats. No, I don't know. They're like they're doing all different things. They're working at animal rescue one day and then on another day they were making painting and constructing bike racks and they were putting misissas on the door. Are they choosing Coasta Rica? Well, right now there is. But they had to do that for a school that's in town. And they also got to go like white Water rafting, okay for having ziplining for humanity. So like it was like it felt like a teen race. And she's the oldest one there right the other kids are a little younger, and so.
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Speaker 2: She having fun.
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Speaker 1: She having fun. That's just coming home tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: Why don't they go to I tell you the story. Why don't they go to Sleepway Camp like every other I wish my kids went to Sleepway Camp on the East Coast. For they did? They did?
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Speaker 1: They did the eight No, they never did the eight weeks because that's not what they do in California.
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Speaker 2: Two weeks at a time.
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Speaker 1: And it's not even in two weeks, it's twelve days because they leave one day and they come back.
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Speaker 2: Oh they leave on a Sunday and they come back on Saturday morning.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not twelve it's and a half.
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Speaker 2: My daughter is doing. She's a CIT at her elementary school camp, which is daycare happy place. Yeah, so her elementary school has a day camp and she's a CIT and she's back with her buddies and they're all there and it is the best.
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Speaker 1: That is the cutest thing.
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Speaker 2: It's the cutest, and it's very A lot of the kids like all go back and their counselor's there for the kid Like I love, very cute, but I feel really old when I pick her up, because all the moms now are like young, and.
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Speaker 1: I always felt like that. I always felt like the old mom. How old were you when you had the kids?
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Speaker 2: I had them when I was thirty five and thirty seven.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I did thirty four the twins thirty seven cat right, obviously the same age and forty two.
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Speaker 2: I wish I did that. I wish I had a third one just to like get it, or to still have another one that's still young.
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Speaker 1: That. Yeah, I could be an empty nester right now. I mean, I love my kids, but I could. Terry definitely could.
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Speaker 2: But that's great because you guys like really enjoy each other's company. I don't know what we would talk about.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the problem. The one problem though, I mean, obviously I'm joking ish, but the one problem is because our age spread is so much. Yeah, like when they're all really little, it's okay, right because the youngest one just goes along with it, yes, and then the oldest ones were like seven and whatever. Right, and then you get in these awkward times, right that. We've gone through a couple of times, and we're in one right now because the twins are about to be twenty one.
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Speaker 2: Remember when you're going to college and you're buying things on dormify.
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Speaker 1: Yes, wow, when they were going to college. Yeah, I was like, we didn't have dormify.
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Speaker 2: You didn't know?
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Speaker 1: Yes, No, yeah, I know. Isn't that crazy? There are going to be twenty one, Cat's going to be everyone's about to turn the next age in the fall. So twins are going to be twenty one. Cat's going to be eighteen, an Ace in December will be fourteen. Okay, so it's like too little I know. But the top three drive, they're independent. Cat's playing college, she's got one more year and then she's gone, and then he's home for another four years after that. Yes, it's a long time. And then also I have to start carpooling again. Oh yes, because Cat's gonna leave and then he's only fourteen and a half.
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Speaker 2: Right, I can't. My son does not drive yet. I'm not pushing it. He's like learning to drive and stuff like that. But his friends drive now, and it's so weird. It's crazy a little bit, is it. Yes, I feel like him out on. He won't go in a car with me, he won't drive. I feel like I will be more prolific if when my kids are gone, when they go to college, because that's my excuse for not getting things done, is that they're around.
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Speaker 1: Then what do you do when you don't have the excuse.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'll I have another, I'll adopt. I don't know. I don't know what i'll do. I don't know what i'll do. I mean, not that there's much in my business right now, but you know, well, back to the kids.
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Speaker 1: For me, it's like I, like I was saying, we're sort of at this awkward stage. It's really hard to do things. Yes together, Oh so I'm weirdly and I don't like to fast forward. And I'm not saying that, but I do look forward to the time where they're all over twenty one, right, because then they're all the same age.
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Speaker 2: Yes, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Over twenty one, you're all the same, We're all the same age. It just doesn't matter yes, and I enjoy all the ages and like, I'm so excited for Kat and can't wait to see where she ends up going to school.
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Speaker 2: Where does she want to go?
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Speaker 1: She wants to go to.
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Speaker 2: USC Film Oh wow, Oh that's great.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got like a two percent acceptance.
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Speaker 2: Right, Well, you see she'll get in. Will you see her? You know what? Jesse would never do this, but they say that, like if you go to like community like Santa Monica College, which she's not going to want to do, oh.
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Speaker 1: A trojan transfer. Yeah, she will get into USC.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: She's exemplary student, honestly, and we don't have things. Yeah, she's like one of those kids, right, But it's the film school.
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Speaker 2: Can she transfer in? No, you can't transfer in freshman year after freshman year. I do that at Syracuse.
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Speaker 1: Their film program is very specific. Oh actually, I don't know if they do transfers. I don't think Are you sure? I don't think so. But she wants to get in, and I think if she doesn't get in there, you know she's gots you know, NYU Columbia, she gets like some other film schools on our list.
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Speaker 2: So will you see her very often? If she's at USC or you don't think so?
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Speaker 1: Oh totally. I mean Nikki's at LMU. We have dinner with them.
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Speaker 2: All the time. Oh that's nice.
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Speaker 1: Oh it's great.
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Speaker 2: But are you in your house up in Beverly Hills or so?
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Speaker 1: We are moving out right now?
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Speaker 2: Why?
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Speaker 1: Because we're ready to start construction. Oh now, how many years is construction? It should take eighteen months, so it'll be two and a half years.
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Speaker 2: I was going to say, I was going to say nine, where are you moving? Okay?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but didn't you have a place in that?
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Speaker 2: Awesome?
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Speaker 1: We were still city yep.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean that's the best. That's amazing. That's a hotel. Yeah, they should have that in Kansas.
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Speaker 1: Actually, I can tell you it doesn't really matter. We're moving in there. Oh I got another place in the building, like on a different floor, so I rented that.
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Speaker 2: That's so good, it's so good. I'm so excited an apartment.
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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to live in an apartment. I'm curious to see Terry and the kids handle apartment living.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, never lived in a massive house. Yeah, I would love to live in an apartment with First of all, I'm a total crosshouse yeller across the house.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.
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Speaker 2: Nobody can hear me. Nobody can hear me. Nobody hear what Terry says.
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Speaker 1: I do all the time. This is one of my worst qualities. I will ask him something literally the moment he walks out of the.
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Speaker 2: Room, and then I get mad that Todd can't hear me.
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Speaker 1: Right, it's soda boche, it's yeah.
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Speaker 2: And then like, I mean, it's too late for me not to be a yeller because every day I'm every year, I'm like, I'm not going to curse anymore, and I'm not going to yell across the house two minutes I curse yellow. I'm a cross house yeller. I just am and he hates it. I'm not going to walk all the way, even if it's not a big house. I'm not going to walk all the way into the room to talk to you. I have to go upstairs.
00:09:24
Speaker 1: Or but like you have a phone in your head.
00:09:26
Speaker 2: Why we text a lot? Yeah, there's a lot of texting.
00:09:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, except I text to Except I read a thing the other day saying that when you call your kids, like the dopamine hit for them is better if you call them versus text. Now I feel guilty about it.
00:09:40
Speaker 2: That's so interesting. I but it's an Instagram thing.
00:09:44
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just an Instagram thing that's trying to make me feel defisient as a.
00:09:48
Speaker 2: Parent or what right do you shot? I bought this ice pod bucket thing on Instagram? What's tell my husband for? It's like an ice plunge thing. It's like a rubber thing that you get into. Okay, but in tiny writing it says, if you want the thing that makes the water cold, it's two thousand dollars. But the ice bucket itself, because you could buy it at like Target, it's a mop like bucket that you could fit in, is one hundred and twenty nine dollars. So I got it. I got the system, but I didn't get the thing that was two thousand dollars. And Todd's like, you got me a bowl, like you got me a rubber You got me some like a mop, like you get me a mop. I'm going to go and return it.
00:10:28
Speaker 1: No, I'm going to go to seven eleven. I'm going to get you a bag ice.
00:10:31
Speaker 2: That's the problem though, is that it doesn't keep the ice cold. Oh so it's just a rubber bucket.
00:10:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a return.
00:10:36
Speaker 2: So I shopped on Instagram. I do that all the time.
00:10:39
Speaker 1: I shop on Instagram all the time.
00:10:40
Speaker 2: You ever get anything good?
00:10:42
Speaker 1: I do?
00:10:43
Speaker 2: You do?
00:10:43
Speaker 1: I actually do. I bought bikinis from a company called Vecchi. Vecchi not sponsored, it's like Vetchy. They were fantastic. Really, I buy everything from Instagram you want to. If you want to anyone out there wants to bump up their sales, just make sure I get the ad. You should.
00:11:05
Speaker 2: And also, I think that my algorithm sends me really like not great things.
00:11:11
Speaker 1: Will you got to start looking at different things?
00:11:13
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, okay.
00:11:16
Speaker 1: In your Explore page, like you gotta look at different okay, And that way they send you better things.
00:11:22
Speaker 2: To shop for. Because I got a de stressing dog pillow that I ordered last night, two of them for you the dog, one for each dog. But you know what, that's not a bad idea because dogs.
00:11:32
Speaker 1: Are stressing you out. Maybe you need the pillow. I might need the well, listen to this. I bought the cube pillow and I was obsessed. Started it's like.
00:11:39
Speaker 2: Good for your next I need that on Instagram.
00:11:42
Speaker 1: I got on Instagram. But it's called the my cube pillow Okay, but here's.
00:11:46
Speaker 2: The thing, because my pillow situation has been compromised. Someone took one of my pillows, and now I can't watch TV.
00:11:52
Speaker 1: Because you have pillow watching TV's and a pillow watch TV watching pillows and sleeping pillows.
00:11:58
Speaker 2: No, my sleeping pillar don't allow me to watch TV on them. I don't have other pillows. I can't find the perfect pillow, even the ones that you stuck.
00:12:08
Speaker 1: You made need a decorative pillow to prop yourself up to watch DV. You could do that and then remove it. I'll have to get what I'm thinking that's active pillow. Okay, but here's the thing. So I started sleeping on this thing and I love it and I've told so many people to be And then I always sleep on silk. So I get the silk pillow.
00:12:24
Speaker 2: Case with your hair.
00:12:25
Speaker 1: No for my face? Why because I don't like cheat scars?
00:12:28
Speaker 2: Oh okay, but like because I feel like my side I sleep on is definitely more.
00:12:34
Speaker 1: Apparently that's true with all of us. But I don't want those lines on my face. So I always sleep on the silk. But then I was at Pilates. I'm now a Pilates price. You you are Oh, I'm gonna tell you.
00:12:47
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:12:47
Speaker 1: So I'm at the pilates and this woman and usually it's only twenty six year old supermodels and me, but this one particular day there was someone more my age. She was saying something about her neck. I go, oh, you got to get this. Pillows so great. So she gets the pillow and then I see her like a couple weeks later, and she tells me that she had to throw it out because she was having nightmares about what.
00:13:09
Speaker 2: I don't She said she had terrible oh stop it from the sleeping on the pillow.
00:13:13
Speaker 1: And now I'm scared to say I'm my pillow again.
00:13:17
Speaker 2: And then she got rid of the pillow and I don't know, you know, it all goes back to but now lizard people.
00:13:24
Speaker 1: Could really but I was so obsessed with this pillow. When it comes, and this is why I was thinking about Jesse. I was like, when it comes, it's it's shrink wrapped. So I started buying them and taking them on vacation.
00:13:38
Speaker 2: It's shrink wrapped like things from gold Belly, like food.
00:13:41
Speaker 1: Exactly, so it's small.
00:13:43
Speaker 2: And then you zip it, unzip it, and then you pull it out and it poofs up.
00:13:47
Speaker 1: It poofs up.
00:13:48
Speaker 2: And it fits the side size of your head.
00:13:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you can get a small one, but there's I like the normal size one.
00:13:55
Speaker 2: It's good and the and it conforms to your.
00:13:58
Speaker 1: No, what it does is and you're it's only for side sleepers. Yeah, because when you're laying on your side and your your head is below sort of your spine being straight, that's when you get pain. So it keeps your spine straight.
00:14:13
Speaker 2: I'm a side TV watcher, which is hard because my glasses, So my glasses go like this. That's the one, and then I can't. You need to get bunny what her bunny eyes?
00:14:24
Speaker 1: Bunny eyes?
00:14:25
Speaker 2: Is that Instagram?
00:14:26
Speaker 1: No, that's my friend your bunny don't know Jenny Koppleman, Jenny Hutt.
00:14:32
Speaker 2: I mean.
00:14:34
Speaker 1: Just Jenny. She has showed just Jenny.
00:14:36
Speaker 2: Is she the one that's friends with Jen Peloton? Yes, she calls her all the time. That's is she from her school?
00:14:43
Speaker 1: Honey? You know she's Stacy Koppleman's sister.
00:14:47
Speaker 2: Oh, I was gonna say, you didn't tell me two cars in call it she had a BMW Stacy did, and.
00:14:54
Speaker 1: I was gonna see she had a range Drover. I remember that because I'd never seen a range Rover. Another girl at our in our s that had a SOB convertible. Oh, I remember, because I had a regular SOB I love. I don't even think I have windows. I think I had rolled up windows probably. Yeah, I don't think my dad sprung for the electric windows.
00:15:13
Speaker 2: So our Okay, so Stacy complements. She's fine, right, don't have to worry about her.
00:15:16
Speaker 1: She's fabulous. No, Stacy's great, But so Jenny, her younger sister. Yeah, the two of them, they have a company called Bunny Eyes, named after their mom, Bunny. Do you remember Bunny?
00:15:27
Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, that's so sweet.
00:15:29
Speaker 1: It's so sweet. But there there are glasses again, not sponsored, but there they have glasses that are they go so they flip up, they flip down, and you can actually move one arm or both arms down like opera glasses. So you could get your hair colored. Oh, or if you want to lay on your side, you can do.
00:15:49
Speaker 2: Also.
00:15:50
Speaker 1: Just go message Jenny, she'll send them to Okay, I will or Stacey.
00:15:54
Speaker 2: I So when I lie down on my pillow, it's this side. I pull my cheek back and then place my head down. But I mean so much so that I don't get that wrinkle, but I get it anyway because I move in the middle of the night. It's not like I'm going to stay. But okay, So here's what happened with this person. We went to college.
00:16:10
Speaker 1: With my must know.
00:16:12
Speaker 2: Best friend in Sleepway Camp. Was she was, and then you're best friend in college and then obviously friends in college and a mutual So this friend of mine here text me was the name.
00:16:24
Speaker 1: Of Sleepwoy Camp Crane Lake.
00:16:26
Speaker 2: I don't remember that, okay, so they okay, So he texts me one morning a picture of her and her husband. Who's he my friend, our mutual friend who I didn't know was a mutual friend. This guy text me a picture of him and his wife and her and her husband. Oh my god, this person I didn't know you knew that. I didn't know you knew them. And he goes, yeah, he goes had dinner with them last night or something, and I said, I want.
00:16:49
Speaker 1: To see her.
00:16:49
Speaker 2: We were best friends in Sleepway Camp and friends in college and then like the distinction, and then he sends us a text on a chain because she was here for the weekend, and he says, here, you go and it was connecting us and I said hi exclamation point, and she said, Hi, Hope you and your family are well, David. That's the mutual friend. Great seeing you and your wife last night. When can I see you before we leave Monday? So like then, I'm like, what did I do to her? She didn't want to see me. Hope you and your family air. She was here for the weekend. Okay, so she was here. He sent me a picture of the You left out that detail. Oh okay, let me start over. She lives on the East Coast. She lives in Westchester. She's your visiting. He sends me a picture.
00:17:37
Speaker 1: Of where were they at dinner?
00:17:40
Speaker 2: No idea, So it's him and his wife. So he sends me a picture. My friend David sends me to Israel. So my friend David sends me a picture of these two couples and they're here in La. They're here in La for the weekend for a wedding.
00:17:54
Speaker 1: And You're like, hey, that's my friend. He connects you, and then she turns around and goes, oh, Liz, hope you guys are well. Hey, David, see each other again.
00:18:06
Speaker 2: And I said to him, oh my god, I would love to see them, and I'd love to see her. I haven't seen her in many, many years, And so he connected us and then now you guys are connected.
00:18:17
Speaker 1: Whatever, even like a bullshit, let's get a coffee?
00:18:20
Speaker 2: Oh? Nothing, nothing, nothing, not even an open ended question like how are you? It was I hope you're well, which I don't think she does.
00:18:28
Speaker 1: What did I do to her?
00:18:29
Speaker 2: I don't know?
00:18:30
Speaker 1: What did you do? What did I what did you do?
00:18:33
Speaker 2: Like my biggest fear always I'm just not I don't rate, like I'm not good enough.
00:18:37
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
00:18:38
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what happened. But there was no I didn't write back, Wow, I know, I know here. Yeah, so I just also another friend of mine is in town who has a house here, is in town, and I saw on Instagram that she was in town. So I wrote you're here, and then immediately I regretted it because then she would probably feel like obligated to see me. The next morning, I got a text inviting us for dinner. Obviously because I said, you're here, so we're going to dinner. But I thought, for a second, should I ask her if she only invited us? Oh?
00:19:16
Speaker 1: My gosh, I'm not.
00:19:16
Speaker 2: I'm not.
00:19:17
Speaker 1: We're just no, I get it. No, No, I'm right, I'm I am in.
00:19:21
Speaker 2: Bed with you because I'm imagining the side text of like you guys. I'm sorry, I have to, Liz, I have to. I understand if you don't want to come, but I had to because I didn't think she'd take me up. I thought she would know that. I just invited her because she said hi on Instagram.
00:19:42
Speaker 1: So again, but I love her because Instagram is not only my shopping, it's my therapy.
00:19:48
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:19:49
Speaker 1: I had seen something could have been on TikTok that was like, it has to do with our anxiety, that makes us feel that way, Yeah, that makes us sections everything. Why can't it just be like because what it could have been was you're here, and then she was like, you know what.
00:20:07
Speaker 2: We are here, let's have a let's have a dinner party.
00:20:09
Speaker 1: Yes, it could have been that hard dinner party could have jumped off just from your message. You could have said, hey, let's have listen to her husband over and then and then her husband said, oh yeah, great, Well why don't we have a few couples over and like make it fun because we have been seen and you.
00:20:27
Speaker 2: Know sometimes and like I don't want to be alone with her.
00:20:30
Speaker 1: No, See, this is where our brains go back.
00:20:33
Speaker 2: You know.
00:20:33
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like because I know, I feel this way, like if I I don't have that many this is why I was doing that lunch bunch thing. Yes, because I can't do twelve lunches and fourteen dinners and three coffees and whatever it is. You know, I'm busy, So sometimes it's nice to get a bunch of people together, right, and that way you get to see everyone.
00:20:56
Speaker 2: Right, that's true. I'm gonna go got to be.
00:20:58
Speaker 1: More conscident, to be more What are you going to bring to her house?
00:21:02
Speaker 2: Oh? She said to bring dessert. Where's good dessert? That's not like Susie cakes, big chill frozen yogurt that I eat in the car on the way there.
00:21:12
Speaker 1: I think you should just bring gift certificates. She lives in the selisides. Just bring sides.
00:21:17
Speaker 2: I'll just bring a bunch of Look how big these sides are, well they were big.
00:21:24
Speaker 1: Desserts are difficult these days. I feel like all the real popular things have all died out, Like do people still eat those eight thousand calorie Krumble cookies. Do you know each one is like three thousand calories?
00:21:36
Speaker 2: Three thousand calories.
00:21:38
Speaker 1: I could be exaggerate.
00:21:39
Speaker 2: No, I think you're right. I think I'll bring them. Isn't that like you know people who bring stuff like that? But those are people who want to watch other people eat.
00:21:45
Speaker 1: You eat them tonight.
00:21:46
Speaker 2: Late and then I'm soxious that I eat the icing. I eat the frosting off of all of them at the table, Like, just help myself, that's so something. Just stick my fingers on the top of a cookie and just pinch all the frosting and eat it.
00:22:01
Speaker 1: I'll wind up.
00:22:02
Speaker 2: I'll wind up eating all of the frosting off of the cookies with my front teeth like a rabbit.
00:22:08
Speaker 1: Like just listen. I've been known to take oreos and make like twelve stuffs just in between two of the actual cookies.
00:22:16
Speaker 2: You start just like like lifting the stuff at it. What what or do I do that? Do? I say? You know what? Nobody brings supermarket desert me more. I am bringing you on Instagram that you can take a supermarket cake and judge it up to make it look fancy.
00:22:38
Speaker 1: No, yeah, but all.
00:22:41
Speaker 2: If I buy a supermarket cake like a Ralphs cake. I will immediately drive to the nearest dumpster and sit next to it and say, after this, it's going in the dumpster. After this, it's going to.
00:22:52
Speaker 1: The You have to do it in a public dumpster, or else you might go back in.
00:22:56
Speaker 2: I might go back in. You get it. But I always feel like if I'm eating a sheet cake has to be next to a dumpter. I don't dumpster. I don't know what that says about me.
00:23:04
Speaker 1: No, it goes back to these eating things that we all have. I remember one time the twins were like one and a half and I was pregnant with Cat. Right, does that make it two? There were two? So I don't know if something like that there were two. I was party with Cat and we were in our house on Port Streets and me and my friend Marla were We got cupcakes.
00:23:28
Speaker 2: The kids, right, but there was a lot of cups. They the crumbs ones.
00:23:31
Speaker 1: No, they didn't have crumbs back then. This is like they're going to be twenty nineteen years ago. They weren't even Susie cakes. Okay, I don't you know who knows soul butter, yes, full butter good. Yeah, So I remember me and Marla standing over the sink, just shoveling the cupcakes fast as we could, because it was like a tyme thing like you're dumpster. Ours was like for the sink all the time fast. Yes, if there was like as if there's a time limit, like if you eat it in seven set whatever, you can eat in seven seconds the same amount of calories. Yes, that's actually probably true. Oh it's so sad. But I also feel like you don't enjoy it, and then you feel like choke it.
00:24:13
Speaker 2: You know what the problem is with the dumpster. It's too high to go back in and get it.
00:24:18
Speaker 1: That's what's right.
00:24:19
Speaker 2: That's what's right. That's why I knew there was a reason. Oh my god. Right, I wrote this pilot once where I it was about a weight group that gets together in an apartment building in New York, like all these people who decide to like be a support Yes, yeah, I love that. So it didn't get made. But anyway, so the main character throws a cake in the garbage and then sprays cleaning fluid on it so she doesn't need it, and then I was like toying with the idea of her going back in. Yeah, but the executive at the network said, ill, I've never seen anyone do that before, And I said, not only is that not true, you've done that before. It didn't get med. I think you've eaten cake out of the garbage.
00:25:07
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. Yeah. I don't think Terry has.
00:25:09
Speaker 2: I'm sure not. I'm not a man.
00:25:10
Speaker 1: I don't think men do.
00:25:11
Speaker 2: God, I've done it in front of people. You have, well, yeah, I feel like you get to a point in your marriage where you can eat cake out of them.
00:25:18
Speaker 1: No you can't. Oh see, that can't problem. No, you can't eat, you can't poop, and by the never, and you can't eat cake out of the garbage. That's it, you know.
00:25:27
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that I have, but I will say once I was at work on the show and I shared I gave my friend a cookie that I got from the Big Chill, one of those like very forty thousand dollars one hundred and one hundred and forty calories. But it also in tiny writing it says that there's ten servings. So they gave her one of these cookies, which I coveted, and they don't make them anymore. So I started to leave my office and I heard the thunk of the cookie go into the garbage, the empty garbage, and I was so mad because first of all, it's an expensive cookie, and second of all, you totally should have just given it back to me, and she threw it out on it.
00:26:05
Speaker 1: So all I did.
00:26:06
Speaker 2: The entire time we were working when I came back in was wait for her to leave so I could get the cookie out of the empty garbage. I'm not saying whether I did or whether I did. It was empty, it was a new bag, and it was still in the wrapper, but it wasn't but I think I did. But then if she came back in and went to throw something in the garbage and then saw the cookie was gone, what would I say. I don't know. I'd have to press a fire alarm. I don't know what.
00:26:40
Speaker 1: I would do. I don't know.
00:26:41
Speaker 2: I'd kick her out. I'd find some other dirt on her and threaten her with it.
00:26:45
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't know. So crazy. Now, what's going on with work?
00:26:50
Speaker 2: I just finished a pilot, writing a pilot that just went into the network, and then I'm like developing other stuff. But it's really hard out there. It's very hard. I'm developing some other stuff, but like it's I thought you and your brother were doing My brother and I are doing something together. We're going to be pitching in August. That's exciting, I hope so. But it's like free until unless we sell it's and then you don't get paid for a long time. It's very The TV business is sadly like are the old days that we knew and loved are gone?
00:27:20
Speaker 1: Gone?
00:27:21
Speaker 2: I hope not forever, because there's no more. There's no more TV. There's no more fall TV, no more like ABC is doing one half of a night of comedy. I think in the fall. It's crazy like from eight to nine. Maybe because it's all about I might be wrong, but the companies that bought the companies that bought the studios and networks and stuff, they don't care about quality. They just want They just want to make money, so they want things like game shows that they can air on like my show Pivoting. Everyone says that's but it honestly did get canceled because of money, and it's so heartbreaking. I knows if they had kept it, I would be a lot happier and many more people would be working. But it's just so crazy. That money is you would never you never would have thought that back in the day.
00:28:09
Speaker 1: Well, I think your point is very very valid. It's that now that these huge parent companies are companies like Amazon, yes, you know, when the bulk of their business isn't.
00:28:22
Speaker 2: Now TV shows, they don't care, but people need to care again, it's like a lemonade stand to them. They don't care. And even Amazon wasn't even hearing pitches the latest I heard. Or Hulu. Yeah, and I had a meeting with this guy I love at Hulu and he was like, we're not even.
00:28:37
Speaker 1: For scripted or just for scrypted.
00:28:40
Speaker 2: And also they said, yeah, one network that I was working with, so we don't even have a plan for pilots. There's no So there's no frenzy anymore. There's not like you get notes now and then you hand them in by tonight and then they're making decisions this day and then there's like this round of notes and how many notes did you get and how long were you on It's very like it back to us whatever. But then you don't get paid, so you know, and the pay is not what it used to be. It's just nothing. As those days are kind of over, like if I could be a novelist now I don't know if maybe that, but I do want to be back in a room with funny people. That doesn't really happen anything.
00:29:16
Speaker 1: Either, I know, even pitching. I mean, yeah, this is the whole zoom zoom pitching. It's so hard because and as an actor, like I know people, oh you everyone gets to get put on tape and it's not that I'm so in it right now, but even still, there's something about the energy of being in a room, yes, with lives people and doing a performance and they get some kind of riz from you exact that even if like you're even if the performance wasn't exactly right, or it was like there's something about that guy or that girl that I just am attracted to on some level that's gone.
00:29:54
Speaker 2: Yeah. My brother and I had a zoom with Paul Fieg, this directors company, and it was on zoom, but it was an inform It was just like a meeting just to like a just to kind of float this idea by them. But they were on the zoom. Their heads are in the like just full screen waiting, so they were waiting to hear a pitch from us. And it was like we were floundering, and we were. There's no zoom should not exist anymore. For meetings, you should have to go in person. I agree, it's just it's I saw my therapist for my psychiatrist for the first time in person in years. How is that? It was kind of great? I mean it was great, you know. I mean she looked great, so that was good. I mean, she hadn't aged a ton. She didn't say the same thing back to me, though, so she was just like she saw me. Boy, let's get you on something different. She takes out a phone book size of lists of everything I've been on, and it's like, I tried this, tried this because I've been going to her for twenty years, so literally it's a giant.
00:30:59
Speaker 1: Do you feel like with therapists, like, are you supposed to be with the same person forever? Well?
00:31:03
Speaker 2: I was for a psychiatrist. I think yes, because that's like meds and stuff. She's a very heavy pen. I like her, but and I played after field of time doctor feel good.
00:31:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.
00:31:15
Speaker 2: But therapists, no, because I was with the same therapist for twenty years and since I was four, and we kind of ended badly because I felt like at the end we were bickering a lot, and she was kind of telling me things, not telling me what I wanted to hear, what she should have learned in twenty years. But also I had like resentment, and I just I felt like she was annoyed. It just was too long, Yeah, too long. So but then the problem with I waited five years to find someone new because I didn't want to download someone else.
00:31:49
Speaker 1: Well, that's all thing, I swear. I think that's why I only went to therapy one time. Ever, Oh really, yeah, I may have told you the story, but I was trying to my show had been canceled.
00:31:59
Speaker 2: I was and I VF.
00:32:01
Speaker 1: I was like, oh God, like going through what am I doing with my life? I A and and so this it was actually Jenny's boyfriend at the time. Manager sent me to this guy. He told Terry, you know, Heather should go see this guy. Did and I did three sessions with him, and then Terry got the bilt was five hundred dollars a session, and Terry's like, you're cured, You're fine, You're fine, You're cured, and so, but to be honest with you, I was so uncomfortable because I had never done therapy before. I felt like I was performing, like I live an hour of had there and let me do some of this and let me do things and hour and I funny and bye bye, see you next week. And I assume that it takes a long time. And then also, like you're saying, like it's a it's like being in a new relationship. I really want to have to go backwards and tell you everything there. I also feel like that some things should stay slam shut.
00:32:55
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, and I do. I'm better about that. But I my therapist, I wore in the same area, so I wore like a hat and sunglasses. I didn't want her to see me, but I wanted to see someone else. I wanted to go to a man to see what that was like. So no, never again. So I go to this man.
00:33:12
Speaker 1: I went to a male gynecologist. Once.
00:33:13
Speaker 2: I go to one doctor Greene. He's been around forever in love fam interesting. So I go. It's like the one time I have no humility, not the one time, but anyway, So he so this therapist, I talk and he just puts his head in his hands and he goes. So under medic you're so into medically, you're so undermedicated. And I'm like, I'm very highly medicated. And he's like, oh, oh my god. He just starts laughing at me.
00:33:47
Speaker 1: It's terrible. And he was so just get up and walk out.
00:33:50
Speaker 2: I didn't, but that was part of my thing. So I just was he wanted me to go to this different doctor and get on more meds. And he goes, you are operating here, and you could be operating, your productivity could be here, and I was so mad. And then the next time and then I texted him and I said, I'm really angry. And I told him that I was really angry, and we texted and then I was like, this is the therapy to get me to start being angry. But it wasn't because then I went back again and he just let every time I talked to put his head in his hands and said, so undermedicated.
00:34:24
Speaker 1: That is so inappropriate. Did you tell your other doctor? No?
00:34:29
Speaker 2: But she knew I had gone to someone else. I went back to her and she was just sitting in her chair like, so, how have you been? Where have you been? But I never told her and she I think she's probably like eighty.
00:34:41
Speaker 1: Now. I kind of want to text her.
00:34:43
Speaker 2: Sometimes. I did text her during the pandemic and said how are you? And she said alive. It was another thing like our friend from college help your family as well.
00:34:51
Speaker 1: I think you knew. Sometimes I found someone in the circle.
00:34:54
Speaker 2: I found someone knew who. I'm worried is going to be too nice. That's an I'm worried this therapist is going to be too nice to me.
00:35:05
Speaker 1: Right because they have to tell you.
00:35:07
Speaker 2: I want her to give me advice, Yeah, that I could not take right.
00:35:11
Speaker 1: Could you tell me what I'm not going to do?
00:35:14
Speaker 2: Please, what I'm not going to do? Tell me what would be the right thing to do. But she's very nice and she tilts her head a lot, So I don't know.
00:35:21
Speaker 1: Every time I think about going into therapy, I think I just don't and I'm totally for it, and yeah, so my kids have done it. I'm I'm like one hundred percent for it. But I just for me, I feel like there are certain the only things that I could really like go through are things from the past, and I don't really want it. What do you have to is that a thing? Do you have to solve everything and go over it and figure it all out? Is it enough to be like, all right, I was there then I'm here now, yes, and I feel good that.
00:35:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can do that. I don't think it's important to dredge up the past unless you have patterns.
00:36:02
Speaker 1: That are affecting your president future.
00:36:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I tend to go back to the same thing of like I'm not good enough and I can't do this, and I'm a fraud and I'm.
00:36:10
Speaker 1: Don't isn't that a performer thing? Yeah, artistic thing, but I'm you know.
00:36:14
Speaker 2: But there's also childhood things of like I'm never going to be anything. I'm never going to be I'm lazy, I'm this and not. I need her to say no, you're not, and then I can leave and be like I'm so ey. But I've only gone to her twice because then she went to Ireland for a month. All right, Well, I hope that goes well, we'll see I love you, I love you.
00:36:32
Speaker 1: When's Jesse coming home?
00:36:34
Speaker 2: He's coming home July fifth. I'm loving it.
00:36:37
Speaker 1: What are you doing for July fourth?
00:36:38
Speaker 2: I don't even know yet.
00:36:39
Speaker 1: It's not terrible, No, it's not. You do We're going to be in Idaho.
00:36:42
Speaker 2: You're going to be an Idaho so it's the trip. It's like a trip.
00:36:45
Speaker 1: This is the trip. So so we're moving. We're going to Idaho, Okay, and then we're gonna get settled into apartment living. M hmm and that. And you know, it's funny. One of the kids said to me recently, like, oh, I'm excited for that because it's like when we were as soon when we moved out of the Crystal Cove house we were in the first rental house. Room was small, right, and they liked it because everyone was.
00:37:08
Speaker 2: They say, families are happier that live in smaller places.
00:37:11
Speaker 1: By the way, we were really happy in twenty two thousand. Right now, there was a lot of joy. I didn't say who they are.
00:37:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of joking around.
00:37:21
Speaker 1: There was like joy, I said, I was like joy. But yeah, so I think they're excited about this. That should be good. And then I also I rented a house in Malibu for like five days in August, so I thought for the family, and I thought, you know, because Nikki's going abroad this semester, Max is going abroad second semester.
00:37:42
Speaker 2: I was going to ask if you're ever all together, but you're probably all together a lot.
00:37:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we are.
00:37:46
Speaker 2: I love that, you know, dinner and stuff we do.
00:37:49
Speaker 1: So this summer's been a good in and out. Everyone's you know, kind of doing their thing. But we've had some together time. But obviously Idaho, you know, was like focused time all together, small quarters. And then I think this Malibu thing, I think that'll be fun. So that's the summer, and then Great Housewives starting July eleventh, yay, just a few short weeks away.
00:38:11
Speaker 2: Yay.
00:38:12
Speaker 1: Bickle up up. Tell everyone how to find your book.
00:38:16
Speaker 2: My book is Stay at Work, Mom, Marriage, Kids and other Disasters. It's a memoir and you can get it out of Amazon. You can get it at Barnes and Noble or yeah, anywhere online again and have it find you on social Liz Astrof on Instagram. I'm not on Facebook anymore. I was hacked by a hockey player in Calgary. No, a hockey fan in Calgary. Sorry, yeah, whole thing, but yeah, Liz Astrof on Instagram. All right, I love doing this. It's so fun.
00:38:48
Speaker 1: See you guys next day.
