Transcription complète de Table Reflections: Season 10 Finale

comments you'll be seeing, or the reviews they'll be talking about how much they love. 03:43.755 --> 03:48.878 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they love us, our narration, but they also love the prayers in the end. 03:48.918 --> 03:52.300 [SPEAKER_00]: So we thought, well, why don't we just make a devotional about 03:53.180 --> 03:58.084 [SPEAKER_00]: And praying truthfully based off of, we build off of those prayers there. 03:58.524 --> 04:01.407 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we do need to pray just to make it today. 04:02.107 --> 04:03.849 [SPEAKER_00]: We do, and we need to tell God the truth. 04:04.049 --> 04:07.632 [SPEAKER_01]: So, right, I mean, well, don't bring your representative. 04:07.672 --> 04:08.392 [SPEAKER_01]: Bring yourself. 04:08.452 --> 04:10.274 [SPEAKER_01]: Bring your fools. 04:10.414 --> 04:12.376 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so we don't. 04:12.796 --> 04:14.217 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so we don't that. 04:14.257 --> 04:15.118 [SPEAKER_01]: What else have we done? 04:15.578 --> 04:17.860 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so a lot of things. 04:17.980 --> 04:19.942 [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I can't tell at all. 04:21.428 --> 04:27.290 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we've got a lot of y'all in addition to, you know, recording for true table season 10. 04:27.310 --> 04:34.913 [SPEAKER_00]: So when y'all see us, you know, we hear us, we'll say how you doing go and we like, I'll tell you the truth, I'll be like, decent. 04:35.373 --> 04:39.374 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that a lot, you know, a lot of different projects and other things that we got going on. 04:39.394 --> 04:42.095 [SPEAKER_00]: So, but we're grateful for that's faithfulness to bring us. 04:42.135 --> 04:42.576 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah. 04:42.636 --> 04:43.416 [SPEAKER_00]: And season 10. 04:44.076 --> 04:45.497 [SPEAKER_00]: the underground. 04:46.177 --> 05:05.105 [SPEAKER_01]: Hello, I mean, when you flashbacks at the beginning of this season, right, and when you think about what you hope to achieve, how do you how do you assess that on this on this at the end of this journey right this end of this season, how are you feeling about what you set out to achieve what we set out to accomplish this season and where we find ourselves today. 05:06.072 --> 05:16.178 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that the theme was right on time, you know, on a grand railroad to point out because it's madness, you know, out there, we need to, we are going somewhere. 05:16.198 --> 05:18.259 [SPEAKER_00]: We need the reminder that we are going somewhere. 05:19.179 --> 05:25.503 [SPEAKER_00]: Even if physically we're not picking up a moving outside of the country, some are some are not. 05:26.063 --> 05:30.906 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think that we, in that regard, we set out to do what we wanted to do. 05:31.266 --> 05:32.707 [SPEAKER_00]: I do wish that we had, 05:33.567 --> 05:50.157 [SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes it's just time constraint, sometimes it's just our travel schedules, y'all, sometimes it's about getting the right guest or, you know, sometimes

there's always a line, but I really would have liked for us to do something on diaspora wars, which is a huge issue, which surprisingly we haven't talked about on trees table. 05:50.477 --> 05:59.663 [SPEAKER_00]: I would have liked for us to do something like that, because I think that's definitely fits under the undergrad world to Blino, okay, because nobody 06:02.405 --> 06:05.767 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, well, some people know it and it's people outside our community. 06:05.948 --> 06:12.492 [SPEAKER_01]: That way, it's not all and I'm sure there's someone in the community that receives wages. 06:13.052 --> 06:13.573 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes. 06:14.073 --> 06:15.414 [SPEAKER_01]: Supplemental and don't. 06:16.795 --> 06:19.076 [SPEAKER_00]: So so I asked for more fires. 06:19.116 --> 06:25.981 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, every day, there's a lot of money and anti black propaganda and that nine fires and what are most of the other ones? 06:26.041 --> 06:27.842 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's all the gender wars, right? 06:27.922 --> 06:31.725 [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody sit down, get off the internet. 06:32.105 --> 06:51.073 [SPEAKER_00]: those three are just in constant rotation in our community so I guess you know actually just looking that up I wonder yeah I would have been probably good to do something on that gender wars um yeah you know the diaspora wars we did do d9 last season so um I feel like we we covered that 06:51.713 --> 06:52.174 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure. 06:52.694 --> 06:54.616 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't think we did it theologically. 06:54.996 --> 06:59.661 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think we did it in the sense that we highlighted, you know, we sort of, yeah, yeah, we didn't do it. 06:59.681 --> 07:04.625 [SPEAKER_00]: We just actually about sisterhood and having that conversation that was a piece that we talked about. 07:04.645 --> 07:04.906 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure. 07:04.986 --> 07:06.687 [SPEAKER_01]: But we didn't really, we didn't get into. 07:08.529 --> 07:11.532 [SPEAKER_01]: the theological allegations and implications. 07:11.973 --> 07:12.493 [SPEAKER_01]: Fat is true. 07:12.553 --> 07:12.854 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 07:13.474 --> 07:21.142 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think, um, die afterwards, we have talked about that, uh, but not a full treatment, like it could be a whole series. 07:21.822 --> 07:22.964 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we haven't done a whole. 07:23.104 --> 07:23.464 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 07:23.644 --> 07:26.067 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, um, so much that can be said. 07:26.536 --> 07:42.579 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we would like to have done that probably, and maybe it's something we need to do for a future season, or something, you know, because it has to be developed out because the consciousness of like a first wave, African immigrant, or Caribbean, is completely different, because they're like a third wave, you know, so sure. 07:43.059 --> 07:46.320 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, well, nobody does race quite like the US. 07:46.420 --> 07:51.621 [SPEAKER_01]: And so in order to understand racialization, it is both caught in taught. 07:52.181 --> 07:54.002 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, absolutely. 07:54.082 --> 07:54.742 [SPEAKER_00]: So there's that. 07:58.310 --> 08:21.480 [SPEAKER_01]: there's that yeah no and and and and conversely to understand colonization it's both caught in thought yes so there's reasons why there's the ignorance abound so he's the first step to learning so yes what did you think how do you feel like you know for what to do and where we are now what do you think first of all I just pray is God that we were able to record 08:26.630 --> 08:33.236 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, y'all don't get it, y'all don't hear it as for this it of me never would have made it. 08:33.616 --> 08:39.241 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, I'm just I think that I think that the topics are both timely and evergreen. 08:40.202 --> 08:43.345 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I am pleased. 08:43.465 --> 08:47.549 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pleased with where we found ourselves at the conclusion of 2026. 08:47.729 --> 08:50.471 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm not being hyperbolic when I say, 08:51.272 --> 09:13.467 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a volatile year and I think where we are socially and politically and where we are in the state of the church in America is wild as matter of fact as a matter of fact that's a real that's a whole episode that is not like because I just want to say clearly that polygamy is a sin. 09:16.098 --> 09:17.019 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, what's happening? 09:17.039 --> 09:17.519 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what? 09:17.539 --> 09:24.684 [SPEAKER_01]: There are consequences when you freestyle theology, and eventually it walks down the street that you're like, how did we get here? 09:24.985 --> 09:28.027 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we got here because you walked down here and you've been playing for a while. 09:28.227 --> 09:28.868 [SPEAKER_01]: A little 11. 09:29.788 --> 09:30.369 [SPEAKER_00]: That's 11. 09:30.609 --> 09:31.349 [SPEAKER_00]: That's right. 09:31.409 --> 09:31.830 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 09:31.890 --> 09:36.733 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh my gosh, yeah, that was really shocking to be on a, well, agree, and grievous. 09:36.833 --> 09:37.534 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was sad. 09:37.714 --> 09:38.094 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 09:38.194 --> 09:39.495 [SPEAKER_01]: I think we do a lot more tears. 09:39.515 --> 09:41.457 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know, you hear me say this all the time. 09:41.497 --> 09:42.738 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we're crying enough. 09:43.145 --> 09:43.405 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 09:43.905 --> 09:45.286 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're shocked. 09:45.606 --> 09:49.767 [SPEAKER_01]: We got our jokes in order to cope and we got, you know, our criticism and our judgment. 09:50.227 --> 09:59.370 [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't, if we don't have enough tears, there really needs, you know, what is it, Reverend Brie put out of a post the other day talking to the morning church a morning church. 10:00.290 --> 10:03.131 [SPEAKER_01]: I know, and I was like, I need a

whole sweatsuit that says that on it. 10:03.691 --> 10:06.392 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, no, it's true. 10:06.452 --> 10:11.974 [SPEAKER_01]: There's reason for us to emotionally and physically go down to the 10:13.413 --> 10:15.575 [SPEAKER_00]: get a bring that back. 10:16.055 --> 10:18.116 [SPEAKER_01]: No, they don't have that no more bring that bad. 10:18.176 --> 10:19.437 [SPEAKER_00]: That's that's all it. 10:19.657 --> 10:20.378 [SPEAKER_00]: Every day is happy. 10:20.398 --> 10:22.019 [SPEAKER_01]: Clap me. 10:22.159 --> 10:31.726 [SPEAKER_00]: Listen, if you are a church where the pastor is preaching the world, I mean, the Bible and it's not a political eye. 10:35.789 --> 10:36.849 [SPEAKER_01]: What is happening? 10:36.989 --> 10:38.430 [SPEAKER_01]: He needs to stay there. 10:38.810 --> 10:39.270 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay? 10:39.790 --> 10:40.670 [SPEAKER_00]: For real. 10:40.750 --> 10:43.310 [SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise, I don't know what else to say, y'all. 10:43.490 --> 10:45.011 [SPEAKER_00]: I like my church real regular. 10:45.411 --> 10:46.071 [SPEAKER_00]: I like it. 10:46.091 --> 10:48.991 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a real, real black, real black. 10:49.232 --> 10:52.072 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't need the bells and whistles and I don't need all of that. 10:52.112 --> 10:53.052 [SPEAKER_01]: That's interesting. 10:53.212 --> 10:55.953 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if listen, is it true? 10:57.213 --> 10:59.333 [SPEAKER_01]: Are the people trying to do right? 10:59.373 --> 11:00.794 [SPEAKER_01]: Do they acknowledge wrong? 11:00.934 --> 11:02.394 [SPEAKER_01]: Then that's where you ought to be. 11:04.282 --> 11:31.594 [SPEAKER_01]: There's just, you know, there's a lot of conversation about, you know, and again, there's very good reason to be frustrated with local churches if the leadership is corrupt and, like, yes, a man, but if it's just a little like boring, that ain't gonna cut it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, 11:31.874 --> 11:35.877 [SPEAKER_01]: And I have a, I put a high value on like, you know, you are who you said you are. 11:37.198 --> 11:38.338 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I put a high value. 11:38.639 --> 11:38.859 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 11:38.879 --> 11:39.579 [SPEAKER_01]: So definitely. 11:39.659 --> 11:40.660 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's how we know. 11:40.720 --> 11:44.963 [SPEAKER_01]: That's how we know you are to put a high value on people being who they said they are. 11:45.503 --> 11:46.544 [SPEAKER_01]: We've been through some things. 11:46.884 --> 11:47.785 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 11:47.825 --> 11:49.125 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 11:49.766 --> 11:50.486 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say that. 11:50.666 --> 11:51.167 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 11:51.307 --> 11:51.687 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 11:51.827 --> 11:52.748 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, yeah. 11:52.788 --> 11:52.968 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 11:52.988 --> 11:53.208 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 11:53.228 --> 11:53.628 [SPEAKER_00]: The chart. 11:53.648 --> 11:53.869 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 11:53.889 --> 11:56.070 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a whole, that that's a whole series with them. 11:56.390 --> 11:58.532 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, some of this, some of this stuff I didn't quite see. 11:58.572 --> 12:00.253 [SPEAKER_00]: That, the polygamy one I didn't see. 12:02.925 --> 12:07.026 [SPEAKER_00]: The ops, oh, ops, oh yeah, I mean, it's an election season. 12:07.046 --> 12:10.828 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm always ready for ops to pop out, you know. 12:11.668 --> 12:18.390 [SPEAKER_01]: But even this seems to be, so there's different ways that this works right like the propaganda. 12:18.410 --> 12:20.211 [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it's a very real plant. 12:20.971 --> 12:30.094 [SPEAKER_01]: But sometimes it is an amplification of an outlier voice or the incentivizing of a particular perspective. 12:32.795 --> 12:34.917 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I did not run from this ever way. 12:34.937 --> 12:36.079 [SPEAKER_00]: That's probably a money. 12:36.239 --> 12:37.920 [SPEAKER_01]: You got to find me where I turn it. 12:37.980 --> 12:40.082 [SPEAKER_01]: Who is hope is boost in this post. 12:40.103 --> 12:40.703 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 12:41.063 --> 12:46.789 [SPEAKER_01]: And there are particular views, views, and videos, and moments that get boosted, you know? 12:46.849 --> 12:51.534 [SPEAKER_01]: And so we're not boosting necessarily the good things, or the normal mundane things of the church. 12:52.397 --> 12:57.679 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, like the chart, the local, yeah, the local charts is just, you know, just this feeding the folks in their neighborhood. 12:57.759 --> 12:59.320 [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to close drive. 12:59.340 --> 13:01.121 [SPEAKER_01]: They never that that didn't go viral. 13:01.481 --> 13:01.741 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 13:01.941 --> 13:05.103 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yes, this very disturbing. 13:05.987 --> 13:08.908 [SPEAKER_01]: polygamy thing, okay, I couldn't run from that the other day. 13:08.928 --> 13:14.649 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, my goodness, you know, I think part of the amplification is also the context that we're in. 13:14.729 --> 13:33.152 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's a conflict economy and so yes, people are so they're incentivized, you know, to create content, to react, to react to whatever is out there and or to give their own type, you know, whatever's happening or their own impression, 13:34.772 --> 13:45.245 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, or yeah, in personation, sorry, you know, maybe a person or people and that obviously fees the algorithm gives the virology, puts money in a pockets. 13:45.586 --> 13:46.988 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, that's the other thing too. 13:47.248

--> 13:50.892 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like how people have to measure their own complicity. 13:51.393 --> 13:51.673 [SPEAKER_00]: with this. 13:51.893 --> 13:56.755 [SPEAKER_00]: Because personally, I don't, I don't people have always asked me my opinion on particular ops. 13:56.775 --> 13:59.075 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I don't amplify ops. 13:59.315 --> 14:04.897 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't speak on ops because like naming them, because first of all, it's very obvious to me that they're ops. 14:06.477 --> 14:08.738 [SPEAKER_00]: And also, I just don't want to give more airplay. 14:08.958 --> 14:10.819 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and more time to it. 14:11.299 --> 14:13.079 [SPEAKER_01]: It's some people, I'm, I'm the very friends. 14:13.099 --> 14:14.540 [SPEAKER_01]: That people don't know that's what they are. 14:15.654 --> 14:21.816 [SPEAKER_01]: Because you can be an amplified voice, and you can really be under the delusion of like, I'm the voice for the moment. 14:22.476 --> 14:25.317 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that actually is a more powerful voice to use. 14:25.397 --> 14:25.937 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the one. 14:26.458 --> 14:28.598 [SPEAKER_01]: The one who is sincerely wrong. 14:29.058 --> 14:31.379 [SPEAKER_01]: The sincere part is the dangerous part. 14:31.419 --> 14:33.160 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I'm with you. 14:34.153 --> 14:41.458 [SPEAKER_00]: And I just was like, oh, I go, and the op's are coming out and I was, you guys have another one's been exposed by essence of the day. 14:41.518 --> 14:51.906 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I'm at, I'm looking for fashion and look, I was like, I'm looking for fashion and look, I was like, I got to do investigative reporting. 14:51.966 --> 14:54.948 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's not really the nicest, you're a crisis, guys. 14:54.968 --> 14:57.690 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, okay, I'm resting at your home. 14:57.790 --> 14:58.531 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so funny. 14:59.371 --> 15:01.753 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm here right in front of you. 15:02.233 --> 15:06.016 [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't expecting it, but it's what was needed. 15:06.196 --> 15:10.098 [SPEAKER_00]: That's all right. 15:10.479 --> 15:11.639 [SPEAKER_00]: That's all she had to ask. 15:11.700 --> 15:13.201 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, that's me actually. 15:13.221 --> 15:14.902 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, the essence is like, we gotta do everything. 15:15.202 --> 15:16.183 [SPEAKER_01]: We gotta do everything now. 15:16.363 --> 15:18.024 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like every black one. 15:18.384 --> 15:20.886 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, literally they're like now we've got to do this too. 15:20.906 --> 15:23.247 [SPEAKER_01]: We went from fashion now to investigate a journal with him. 15:23.267 --> 15:23.668 [SPEAKER_01]: Here you go. 15:23.708 --> 15:28.311 [SPEAKER_00]: Baby, I was like, I thought I was like, I'm saying, what is this BTS news rule? 15:28.331 --> 15:33.855 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, is this sovereign news like my channel's happy democracy now? 15:33.915 --> 15:34.375 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go. 15:34.495 --> 15:35.916 [SPEAKER_01]: No, let's have it. 15:35.936 --> 15:37.998 [SPEAKER_01]: Like we all need to be democracy now. 15:38.218 --> 15:42.121 [SPEAKER_00]: Listen, that man can't, can't nobody tell me nothing about no democracy now, man. 15:44.643 --> 15:46.644 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure they have their strengths. 15:46.684 --> 15:48.806 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe good, but that's my girl down. 15:49.387 --> 15:52.689 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, but... Maybe sister, maybe. 15:52.810 --> 15:53.490 [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry. 15:54.771 --> 15:55.872 [SPEAKER_00]: It's anyway, y'all. 15:55.892 --> 15:58.334 [SPEAKER_00]: That's how we've been making it through this underground room, honey. 15:58.414 --> 16:00.376 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just, we are here still. 16:03.782 --> 16:22.702 [SPEAKER_00]: Christina and I know that real life requires real prayers, and that's why in our book truthful prayers for resisting the chaos we've written 30 prayers to help you navigate times of uncertainty, scripturally rooted just to center and culturally aware this devotional gathers prayers originally shared on this podcast. 16:23.002 --> 16:26.865 [SPEAKER_00]: thoughtfully curated to invite you into honest dialogue with God. 16:27.225 --> 16:40.755 [SPEAKER_00]: If you long for spiritual reflection, grounded in real experience, a deeper connection between scripture, reading and prayer, and a way to express your faith honestly and authentically, truthful prayers for resistance in the chaos is the companion you need. 16:42.336 --> 16:43.817 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what's wild when we start it? 16:44.097 --> 16:45.078 [SPEAKER_00]: The Underground World Road 2.0. 16:46.272 --> 16:52.139 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, yes, there was chaos of bounding quite a bit of instability happening. 16:52.719 --> 16:53.340 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Mrs. 16:53.540 --> 16:58.907 [SPEAKER_00]: Still, but now that we're ending this, it's like the word is on fire. 16:58.947 --> 16:59.747 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like everywhere. 16:59.767 --> 17:00.488 [SPEAKER_00]: It is. 17:01.069 --> 17:04.393 [SPEAKER_00]: Girl Paris, Belgium, India, 17:06.086 --> 17:19.933 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh so many other places where there's uprises I'm losing I'm blanking on the other places But it's our so many there are so many places I'm just like wow I mean oh yeah, I just be my lover of illusion, you know 17:22.124 --> 17:50.313 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, we need Viva a lot of revivals Yes, yeah both both that both for them Yeah, that should be next But yeah, I was like, yeah better go here I was like, do what you need to do It's just a safe but I was like I like it's so hard It's okay Oh, Portugal too, Portugal too 17:52.301 --> 18:03.669 [SPEAKER_00]: Like places that people I know that like I followed that went they picked up from America to move to honey Yeah, I know Excuse me They like it followed me. 18:03.729 --> 18:04.210 [SPEAKER_01]: What's going on? 18:04.270 --> 18:05.671 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I think I say.

18:05.711 --> 18:06.031 [SPEAKER_00]: I said. 18:06.251 --> 18:08.713 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, because you remember all I want to I which is fine. 18:08.753 --> 18:13.117 [SPEAKER_00]: I was I know the devil here. 18:13.717 --> 18:20.022 [SPEAKER_00]: I know the tricks You know, I know the way you know the way he moves around here. 18:20.062 --> 18:20.823 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean? 18:21.083 --> 18:27.004 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how, how to double move over there, you know, and I talked to much, I need my free speech, okay? 18:27.364 --> 18:46.387 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm gonna be, so I could just be, or what we think is, or what we think is, I can't just be going out, I'm like, I don't know what they got going over there, let me just stay, stay with the devil, I know, I'm just like, oh man, I was like, cause I was literally thinking about the expats, and the people that moved like to newspapers like, oh, I'm not sure. 18:46.927 --> 18:48.908 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, hmm, and that can't 18:50.788 --> 18:51.048 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 18:51.669 --> 18:52.889 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the chaos of bounds. 18:52.929 --> 19:00.554 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think the reason why we don't have that form of chaos, where we are is actually for bad reasons. 19:02.235 --> 19:03.496 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a fresh end, right? 19:03.556 --> 19:05.557 [SPEAKER_01]: So totally. 19:05.717 --> 19:05.977 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 19:06.017 --> 19:09.239 [SPEAKER_01]: So that is, you know, I want there to be actual. 19:09.419 --> 19:10.740 [SPEAKER_01]: And people are not tired enough. 19:11.060 --> 19:11.321 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 19:11.941 --> 19:12.221 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 19:12.922 --> 19:13.182 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 19:13.222 --> 19:13.462 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no. 19:13.482 --> 19:18.005 [SPEAKER_01]: The people are, you know, privilege is a heck of a drug. 19:19.726 --> 19:19.986 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 19:20.861 --> 19:23.002 [SPEAKER_00]: It really, really is, it really, really is. 19:23.022 --> 19:26.644 [SPEAKER_00]: And because we have not put on, we still kind of have some of those trappings. 19:27.044 --> 19:30.726 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, we haven't put on our identification with those who are suffering the most. 19:30.786 --> 19:31.686 [SPEAKER_01]: We're still quite. 19:31.766 --> 19:33.007 [SPEAKER_01]: We can disconnect ourselves. 19:34.167 --> 19:36.448 [SPEAKER_01]: Many people can, not everybody, but many people can. 19:38.577 --> 19:44.960 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's, you know, the people and some of us have just kind of a little numb to, I mean, about some of us, I mean, me like, I'm a little bit, I'm numb. 19:45.341 --> 19:52.925 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I can not, I cannot physically go on the emotional roller coaster, like I'm well aware, like it's bad. 19:52.965 --> 19:55.126 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not in denial, like it's a problem. 19:55.146 --> 19:56.607 [SPEAKER_01]: But I have to get off the train. 19:56.627 --> 19:59.028 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, back to my rom-com. 20:01.335 --> 20:09.320 [SPEAKER_01]: You're just back to my, you know, the escapeism is, you know, and then obviously just leading into the faith. 20:09.400 --> 20:11.602 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know what people doing like. 20:11.642 --> 20:14.323 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I understand and I've written about it. 20:15.004 --> 20:19.867 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm consistent on understanding why people have issues with the church and all things. 20:20.247 --> 20:27.632 [SPEAKER_01]: But you've heard me say it a thousand times, Donald J. Trump is not going to snatch my faith in Jesus. 20:29.083 --> 20:34.144 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so outrageous to me that on the other side of D.J.C. 20:34.164 --> 20:36.765 [SPEAKER_01]: People are like, I am done with God all together. 20:36.785 --> 20:38.766 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, you know, that was why people. 20:38.806 --> 20:42.266 [SPEAKER_00]: Your God really was exactly exactly, absolutely. 20:42.707 --> 20:43.587 [SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy. 20:43.807 --> 20:45.907 [SPEAKER_01]: That is so, so, so sad. 20:46.307 --> 20:54.790 [SPEAKER_01]: My hope in that though is that the Lord will allow for people to see an idol, which they need to cast away a misnamed idol. 20:56.353 --> 20:59.475 [SPEAKER_01]: And so that they can be introduced to the real savior. 20:59.495 --> 21:02.798 [SPEAKER_01]: That's my hope in prayer, because that's absolute confusion to me. 21:02.818 --> 21:05.780 [SPEAKER_01]: To for people when even when people say things like, well, the Christians did blah, blah, blah, blah. 21:05.800 --> 21:09.422 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, are you talking about Sister Jankas at the missionary Baptist Church? 21:09.482 --> 21:10.183 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you serious? 21:10.243 --> 21:15.126 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I need us to be much more precise in self-control with our language. 21:15.146 --> 21:16.007 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 21:16.107 --> 21:16.507 [SPEAKER_01]: I get it. 21:16.547 --> 21:21.711 [SPEAKER_01]: I get when people are bitter and angry and upset and traumatized, they just start speaking in black and white, dichotomous ways. 21:22.131 --> 21:24.393 [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm like, pull back, because you're slandering people. 21:25.233 --> 21:42.768 [SPEAKER_00]: And not everybody, not everybody is who very much is a follower of Jesus, a blood-blood-blood-blood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood-bood- 21:43.516 --> 21:50.022 [SPEAKER_00]: I just, come on, come on, like I just know it's almost like it's quite traditional bondage. 21:51.103 --> 21:57.450 [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, that's like these white supremacists, these flashes do not represent the faith. 21:57.470 --> 21:59.011 [SPEAKER_00]: Come on, y'all know

that. 21:59.111 --> 22:03.555 [SPEAKER_00]: So just, you know, and you know that, it's like, stop playing in our first level. 22:03.595 --> 22:04.917 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying, make sure you go above. 22:06.878 --> 22:08.999 [SPEAKER_00]: because mid-terms, all right? 22:09.199 --> 22:10.660 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and vote. 22:10.900 --> 22:11.981 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, yeah. 22:12.361 --> 22:13.642 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's not a zero-sum game. 22:13.682 --> 22:15.603 [SPEAKER_00]: You can vote and organize. 22:15.903 --> 22:17.844 [SPEAKER_00]: You can vote and protest. 22:18.104 --> 22:20.065 [SPEAKER_00]: Voting is the bare minimum. 22:20.265 --> 22:20.585 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 22:20.605 --> 22:25.608 [SPEAKER_01]: Do not take all the things, do all good things, do all good works. 22:26.028 --> 22:26.348 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 22:26.368 --> 22:27.169 [SPEAKER_01]: As unto the Lord. 22:27.189 --> 22:29.370 [SPEAKER_00]: Do the song what happened in this happening in Brazil? 22:29.390 --> 22:30.610 [SPEAKER_00]: Hello, hello. 22:31.891 --> 22:35.772 [SPEAKER_01]: Go, oh, and then go, we're gonna go do those things. 22:35.872 --> 22:40.412 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so I just No, no one did no one saw what was happening in Brazil because they just saw what happened. 22:40.452 --> 22:43.533 [SPEAKER_01]: They just saw like, what's in the algorithm right now? 22:43.553 --> 22:44.413 [SPEAKER_01]: They just drew. 22:44.933 --> 22:46.413 [SPEAKER_01]: They just, yeah, they just saw. 22:46.434 --> 22:46.834 [SPEAKER_01]: That's true. 22:47.294 --> 22:49.234 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess it depends on your, yeah, you're right. 22:49.254 --> 22:50.894 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the penalty algorithm. 22:50.974 --> 22:51.354 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. 22:51.374 --> 22:51.994 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 22:52.194 --> 22:58.936 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think, you know, so if I, if we were, as we conclude the season, as I think about what I would encourage people to do, 23:01.590 --> 23:02.751 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what do we need to do? 23:02.811 --> 23:07.333 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, you've already given good sound advice of like, engage vote. 23:07.693 --> 23:12.055 [SPEAKER_01]: If you are able to vote, you should vote, and you should love your neighbor well. 23:12.095 --> 23:15.897 [SPEAKER_01]: You should stuard your humanity in service of others. 23:15.998 --> 23:17.418 [SPEAKER_01]: Like do all the things you can do. 23:17.939 --> 23:21.480 [SPEAKER_01]: But I would also encourage people to connect with other human beings. 23:21.721 --> 23:26.483 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that we are way too isolated. 23:26.783 --> 23:27.443 [SPEAKER_01]: And I get it. 23:27.564 --> 23:29.324 [SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing riskier than another human. 23:30.405 --> 23:31.947 [SPEAKER_01]: when we're hurt, it's often by people. 23:32.107 --> 23:32.507 [SPEAKER_01]: I get it. 23:32.608 --> 23:33.008 [SPEAKER_01]: I get it. 23:33.869 --> 23:39.435 [SPEAKER_01]: Yet, we have got to break forth and break out and move into real community with other folks. 23:39.636 --> 23:40.056 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes. 23:40.216 --> 23:45.382 [SPEAKER_01]: AP, AP, AP, even when you watch the news, watch the news with people. 23:45.442 --> 23:50.268 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, like, start to like, communally discern what's happening in the world. 23:50.688 --> 23:53.910 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is, I mean, that's, that's also the key to organizing. 23:54.230 --> 23:58.151 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, anyway, it's knowing your neighbor building, neighborly love, y'all. 23:59.052 --> 24:04.214 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and not, I mean, I, I mean, I truthfully, I, I mean, I had to be the doomsday profit. 24:05.255 --> 24:06.215 [SPEAKER_00]: Even though that's what I am. 24:06.687 --> 24:11.150 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so, not you, that's okay, but you're stepping into a new season. 24:11.190 --> 24:12.151 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll amen. 24:12.311 --> 24:13.512 [SPEAKER_01]: Expecting the good. 24:13.852 --> 24:14.853 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. 24:14.873 --> 24:16.414 [SPEAKER_00]: The look, the look is still doing good. 24:16.835 --> 24:17.715 [SPEAKER_00]: It's promising. 24:17.915 --> 24:18.776 [SPEAKER_01]: Exnowaging the mess. 24:18.796 --> 24:20.197 [SPEAKER_01]: The end of the mess, both, both. 24:20.217 --> 24:25.361 [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, it is going to get a bit darker before we get. 24:25.601 --> 24:34.448 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, there's some, there's some shenanigans of foot, you know, um, well, and we know the shenanigans, but we don't know exactly how they go shenanigans. 24:36.232 --> 24:37.072 [SPEAKER_00]: We just have to be ready. 24:37.132 --> 24:57.716 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think to your point about knowing our neighbors community building not being isolated is going to be really key, especially, yeah, as we're heading toward the end of 2026 the year is not over yet, there is still more, yeah, to time to be lived and so I think we just have to be prepared for any any scenario. 24:57.776 --> 25:01.417 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so in the voting booth is again, it's just the start. 25:07.038 --> 25:08.019 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't look good. 25:08.679 --> 25:15.902 [SPEAKER_01]: Theologically, it doesn't look good because there is no... Well, ecclesiastically, you know? 25:16.122 --> 25:19.144 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm saying, you actually have to repair. 25:19.164 --> 25:19.844 [SPEAKER_01]: You have to repent. 25:20.424 --> 25:27.247 [SPEAKER_01]: And so part of our issue is that, and I mean this from the progressive and the conservative side, part of our issue is that we want to move forward without repentance. 25:28.179 --> 25:29.840 [SPEAKER_01]: you actually have to. 25:29.920 --> 25:32.422 [SPEAKER_01]: We got to be like, yeah, that was over. 25:32.442 --> 25:33.703 [SPEAKER_01]: That was a bit much. 25:33.763 --> 25:35.083 [SPEAKER_01]: We have to. 25:35.123 --> 25:36.404 [SPEAKER_00]: Like church discipline. 25:36.424 --> 25:36.825 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 25:36.845 --> 25:44.209 [SPEAKER_01]:

Yeah, like we, I think we, yeah, like, like, they will, without repentance, there's no confidence that it won't repeat yourself over and over again. 25:44.249 --> 25:45.330 [SPEAKER_01]: You didn't learn your lesson. 25:45.370 --> 25:47.431 [SPEAKER_01]: You didn't demonstrate that we learned our lesson. 25:47.451 --> 25:48.432 [SPEAKER_01]: We haven't turned away. 25:48.452 --> 25:49.633 [SPEAKER_01]: And so you mean like the US? 25:51.157 --> 25:52.738 [SPEAKER_01]: Everything's great. 25:52.818 --> 25:53.638 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you're talking about. 25:53.658 --> 25:54.258 [SPEAKER_01]: Everything's great. 25:54.278 --> 25:58.060 [SPEAKER_01]: Remember when we gave slaveholders money, we gave them money, give them money. 25:58.160 --> 25:59.421 [SPEAKER_01]: She's them money. 25:59.821 --> 26:02.022 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, anyway, it's just it's sad. 26:02.062 --> 26:02.782 [SPEAKER_01]: It's really sad. 26:02.822 --> 26:04.523 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think I am holding out. 26:05.083 --> 26:09.985 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so I'm well aware sociologically just how busted it is. 26:10.085 --> 26:11.846 [SPEAKER_01]: I am leaving margin in hope. 26:12.386 --> 26:16.628 [SPEAKER_01]: This is where faith comes in for the supernatural. 26:17.408 --> 26:26.377 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what it would take and that's what it would take the super natural and I'm like If you want to do that, Lord, you do that. 26:26.477 --> 26:31.462 [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to do that, like go for it, like Yes, absolutely do that thing Lord. 26:31.622 --> 26:37.228 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the Lord could also be like you will reap what you saw That could happen too 26:38.372 --> 26:44.214 [SPEAKER_00]: and is bugged I could turn it, but yeah, it is, it is, you know, side. 26:44.894 --> 27:00.639 [SPEAKER_00]: I know, I know, I'm also curious about what the, um, our, uh, since it's at the table, the brothers in the stand room section have to say, but, you know, this season, it was, there were just, and there were so many, about proud of us for making it because there were so many things changing all the time daily, there was no way you could cover everything. 27:01.099 --> 27:03.320 [SPEAKER_00]: And so much would have under this thing. 27:03.360 --> 27:11.423 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think we did, as well as we could consider, like, for instance, the Jim Crow maps, what he's so so so, we had to get her to talk about this. 27:11.463 --> 27:17.585 [SPEAKER_00]: This whole gerrymandering mess and gutting the voting rights acted diluting black political power. 27:17.665 --> 27:21.666 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, that was really important for us to get, he's so so so on. 27:21.706 --> 27:24.207 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so grateful that she came on again. 27:24.427 --> 27:27.489 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, because that to me was all hands on deck. 27:27.509 --> 27:28.289 [SPEAKER_00]: We had to have that. 27:28.909 --> 27:30.890 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that conversation for sure. 27:31.050 --> 27:42.816 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, as always, we featured some really great guests and books that we got to reflect on and, you know, in the midst of laughter and joy, all of those things took place this season. 27:42.836 --> 27:47.899 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm grateful to be able to be at the table with you, dear sister, and all of the folks. 27:48.559 --> 27:59.700 [SPEAKER_01]: This is at the table and the folks in the standing room section throughout all of these many many years and I promise you I long hello almost but I long for the day when 28:02.525 --> 28:04.406 [SPEAKER_01]: We can talk about different political realities. 28:04.946 --> 28:05.306 [SPEAKER_01]: Awesome. 28:05.326 --> 28:06.247 [SPEAKER_01]: In Jesus' name. 28:06.267 --> 28:06.727 [SPEAKER_01]: I know. 28:07.207 --> 28:08.027 [SPEAKER_01]: Amen. 28:08.047 --> 28:09.768 [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's, I don't, I'm, we will. 28:09.808 --> 28:10.468 [SPEAKER_01]: Tired of it. 28:10.688 --> 28:11.149 [SPEAKER_01]: We will. 28:12.589 --> 28:13.390 [SPEAKER_00]: We will one day. 28:13.430 --> 28:13.970 [SPEAKER_00]: We really will. 28:14.270 --> 28:14.630 [SPEAKER_00]: We will. 28:15.270 --> 28:15.711 [SPEAKER_00]: Bye, guys. 28:15.731 --> 28:16.071 [SPEAKER_00]: Grace. 28:16.491 --> 28:16.951 [SPEAKER_00]: Amen. 28:17.271 --> 28:18.432 [SPEAKER_00]: Amen. 28:18.912 --> 28:20.993 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, we got positive ideas of how to, 28:21.693 --> 28:22.974 [SPEAKER_00]: shore up democracy. 28:24.255 --> 28:24.815 [SPEAKER_01]: Hello. 28:25.556 --> 28:29.179 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, from the representative oligarchy that we currently have, for sure. 28:29.219 --> 28:35.924 [SPEAKER_00]: I would like a little something different, but just a little, you know, so, um, no, but I'm grateful to be at this table where you grow. 28:35.964 --> 28:36.884 [SPEAKER_00]: The Lord is good. 28:36.924 --> 28:39.246 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm just a 10 seasons independently. 28:39.746 --> 28:41.988 [SPEAKER_00]: That is no small feat. 28:42.368 --> 28:47.132 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, sometimes we're doing so much work and stuff that we don't always get to sit down and celebrate. 28:47.472 --> 28:55.117 [SPEAKER_00]: Pat ourselves on the back and, you know, give God Lord for just the way that God is kept and sustained the work because it has been through. 28:55.357 --> 29:03.322 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, many trials and challenges, but great joys and great highs as well. 29:03.522 --> 29:05.603 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's both, right? 29:05.703 --> 29:07.124 [SPEAKER_01]: It has to be a test of that. 29:07.144 --> 29:08.625 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a true for praise. 29:08.665 --> 29:09.726 [SPEAKER_01]: There's room for worship. 29:09.766 --> 29:11.046 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a must. 29:11.367 --> 29:13.508 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm looking forward to what the Lord will do. 29:13.928 --> 29:17.849 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and God is full of grand surprises. 29:17.909 --> 29:19.429 [SPEAKER_01]: So let's see what the Lord will do next. 29:19.449 --> 29:26.831 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's see y'all, so thank y'all so much for joining us for season 10, a truth table, the Underground Railroad 2.0. 29:27.251 --> 29:28.031 [SPEAKER_00]: Let us know your thoughts. 29:28.051 --> 29:30.051 [SPEAKER_00]: What did you like about this season? 29:30.371 --> 29:32.992 [SPEAKER_00]: What were kind of your favorite, you know, episodes? 29:33.232 --> 29:39.813 [SPEAKER_00]: What did we cover that you, or what, what did you maybe hope that we would have covered, or would have liked to have had us covered? 29:39.833 --> 29:42.234 [SPEAKER_00]: Cause when I was maybe some ideas for, you know, the next season. 29:43.154 --> 29:43.855 [SPEAKER_00]: Talk to us. 29:44.015 --> 29:48.016 [SPEAKER_00]: Let us know and we're so grateful for your support for being at the table. 29:48.356 --> 29:57.560 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and don't forget to pre-order our new book coming out Oh, no, I'm wearing Two tires for resisting the 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