Transcription complète de #644 - Bryan Johnson

00:03:32.280 It's it's gotten better over time, but it's been a 76 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:34.479 tough That's been probably one of my tougher things. 77 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:36.199 I would imagine it might be for most for a 78 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:36.800 lot of folks. 79 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:39.560 Yeah, Like the disconnect between like what you want to 80 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:41.879 do and then what you actually do, which is like 81 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:45.439 the human condition. It's like what our existence is defined by. 82 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:48.360 Like how how big is that divide? Probably determines if 83 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:49.400 you're happier or not in life. 84 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:52.080 Yeah, I think you're right. 85 00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:53.520 I mean that's one of the things that I think 86 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:56.280 about the most is how far away am I from 87 00:03:56.319 --> 00:03:58.680 what I would like to be doing, what my behaviors 88 00:03:58.719 --> 00:03:59.400 would like to be. 89 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:02.479 Out now in life? Like, I mean, you've got through 90 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:05.520 various stages. How would you assess now? 91 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:09.000 I think like with work, work and things like that 92 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:11.280 have been good. You know that stuff has been good. 93 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:14.800 I think you know on the set on the wellness 94 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:19.639 side of like uh, probably emotional wellness, you know, I've 95 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:22.000 suffered with, like or I've dealt with like a lot 96 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:29.639 of like uh, connectivity disorders, like relationship stuff, commitment, you know, 97 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:34.000 like uh, probably wishing I was making making better choices 98 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:38.199 with my like dating and social life at times. And 99 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:41.720 you know, sometimes if someone will show interest, I'll kind 100 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:46.720 of I'll have to see what's there. Whereas sometimes if 101 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:48.480 I know it's not even a good fit, you know. 102 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:51.959 So that's probably been one of the tougher things. It's 103 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:54.920 probably been my emotional addictive behavior. 104 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:59.639 Yeah, yeah, I'm I guess I'm newly in a partnership, 105 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:04.120 the best relationship of my life. Really, We've been together 106 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:06.839 for a couple of years now, and man, it is, 107 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:09.959 like I mean, it is the single thing in life 108 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:13.279 that makes me more happy than anything, you know, Like 109 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:17.079 it's relationships are so tough, and especially when they tip 110 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:17.839 to acrimony. 111 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:19.519 What does acrimony mean? 112 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:23.279 Just like when it's a negative state, you know, when 113 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:28.199 there's like bickering and like finding fault and trying to 114 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:32.120 correct and the inability to resolve conflict, when there's a 115 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:34.519 negative vibe and they just kind of persist in this 116 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:38.839 low level where it's always unsettled. There's just nothing worse. 117 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:41.680 And I mean that's true in business relationships, is true 118 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:45.079 in personal relationships, friendships all kinds, and like what I 119 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:47.040 have now is just so good. 120 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:47.720 Let's go. 121 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:51.040 Yeah, yeah, so I feel you and without it it 122 00:05:52.519 --> 00:05:54.279 I mean, it's tough to be alone, you know, it's 123 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:58.560 tough to be like trying to date build relationships and 124 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:00.199 I'll work out and go to the next one. It's 125 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:02.199 tiring to like repeat that again and again. 126 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:03.519 Yeah. 127 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:06.120 Yeah, I think that is that's that's definitely true. And 128 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:08.680 then it's like you start to compartmentalize things. Okay, well 129 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:10.199 I'll just go on a date here, or I'll just 130 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:15.279 you know, have this part of my relationship or intimacy here, 131 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:19.040 and it's like, you know, and that's not uh, that's 132 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:23.079 not the healthiest way to operate either. But congratulations. Yeah, 133 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:25.959 they just show your lady right there. Yeah it's Kate Tolo. 134 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:29.959 Oh beautiful lady. Man. Congratulations. You guys are smiling in 135 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:30.439 that picture. 136 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:33.879 Man, we we have so much fun together. I mean 137 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:37.319 we it's like I get teary just even talking about it. 138 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:40.279 We laugh and play is just so good. 139 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:41.639 Yes, she really does something for you. 140 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:44.759 She does man, like you know, like I was I 141 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:46.839 wrote this up online. I was thinking, I'm a big 142 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:51.199 fan of Ernest Shackleton and he was just a explorer, yeah, exactly. 143 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:54.279 So he did the the trance uh Antarctic expedition. He 144 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:57.040 was trying to go pull you know, short to shore 145 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:00.240 for the first time, so from top to bottom, just 146 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:02.800 down to the south pole, from like one side to 147 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:03.839 the other other side. 148 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:05.160 Okay, just at the south pole. 149

00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:07.519 Yeah, so they got they got the ship all prepared, 150 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:10.160 they got all their materials, you know, like enough food 151 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:13.160 and materials for the entire duration. They get stuck in 152 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:16.399 the ice before they even get there early winter, and 153 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:21.800 then the entire book is about this insane survival story 154 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:24.800 like what they went through and not a single man 155 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:27.519 and his crew died, but when you read what he 156 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:30.040 went through, it's just unimaginable that they were able to 157 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:32.839 endure these kinds of things. And I know this is 158 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:35.199 like it's a too dramatic of a comparison, but there 159 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:37.720 was some similarities. I was thinking before, like what does 160 00:07:37.800 --> 00:07:41.720 it feel like to not have deep companionship in my life? 161 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:44.560 Where I've had relationships and they weren't good, right, they 162 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:47.600 ended up being bad, and then having something that is good. 163 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:49.560 It felt like I'm sure what Shackleton and his crew 164 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:53.759 felt like putting their feet on land after being adrift 165 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:55.839 in the ocean for you know, I don't know what 166 00:07:55.839 --> 00:07:58.480 the total duration of times, maybe a year, but just 167 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:03.560 like stable, sturdy, solid, you know, instead of like what's 168 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:05.519 happening today? What do I have to deal with? Is 169 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:09.000 my life at risk? Just all the emotional whiplash you 170 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:11.600 get and like challenges, and when you're by yourself, it's 171 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:14.560 also harder to self regulated. It's harder to calm yourself down. 172 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:16.759 It's nice when someone else's there like kind of be 173 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:20.199 like a oh, get a hug, yeah, one hundred percent. 174 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:22.240 Oh drug. 175 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:25.720 The other day I was I saw my friend in 176 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:27.040 in l A And I got a hug in it 177 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:28.319 and she just kind of gave me like a she 178 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:29.199 gave me a nice hug. 179 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:31.399 And then I was like, I'm gonna stay in this hug. 180 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:36.120 Just yeah, like in my phone yeah yeah, oh yeah yeah. 181 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:37.960 So like was she like a ten out of ten hugger? 182 00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:41.480 She you know what, she surprised me because but yeah 183 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:43.759 she got she got a good hug on her, that's 184 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:44.279 for sure. 185 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:47.600 You know, some people are just like gifted huggers, right, 186 00:08:47.639 --> 00:08:49.120 they just know how to like bring it in and 187 00:08:49.159 --> 00:08:51.120 like somehow the arm from the chest and like the 188 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:53.039 whole thing just fits like a puzzle piece. 189 00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:54.600 Yeah, like even like a lot of times. 190 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:57.120 Yeah, we talked about before, like a grandmother will hug 191 00:08:57.200 --> 00:08:57.759 you so well. 192 00:08:57.919 --> 00:08:58.440 Yeah. 193 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:01.159 Sometimes yeah, I'll like I've always kind of I guess 194 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:03.320 been that I'll do the one arm hug. I hug 195 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:05.399 a lot, though, I hug a lot. I think sometimes 196 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:08.000 it catches people off car people like what's going on? 197 00:09:08.039 --> 00:09:08.200 Man? 198 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:13.879 Yeah, I don't this person, but open up a hug bank, 199 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:16.000 you know what they should do. Yeah, those places where 200 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:19.080 they had payphones before, they should have somebody standing there 201 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:20.679 put a quarter in their pocket and they. 202 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:21.240 Got a huggy. 203 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:24.080 You know. It's like one of the most underappreciated things. Yes, 204 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:27.080 relaunch the hug. I think they got where. I think 205 00:09:27.080 --> 00:09:31.000 we're ready for it. Brian Johnson, thanks for coming in. Man, 206 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:32.960 nice to meet you, brood to see you. 207 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:33.799 It's a pleasure. 208 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:34.039 Dude. 209 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:36.320 I think you're different than maybe what I seem like you. 210 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:38.799 I thought you would seem a little bit more like 211 00:09:38.840 --> 00:09:39.519 a robot. 212 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:43.559 You know, I get that so much. I mean I've 213 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:46.799 had several people think, you know, approach me like, are 214 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:49.879 you AI really like really believing? And that's the case. 215 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:53.080 So I think I am robotic. I think I'm somewhere 216 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:56.759 neurodivergent in some areas. So I think people are just 217 00:09:56.840 --> 00:09:59.320 confused by me generally. So I had I understand that, like. 218 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:00.320 Yeah, that was my thought. 219 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:03.120 But you seem way more normal than that, Like just 220 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:07.960 like a regular dude who's been like, you know, doing 221 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:10.600 wild ship with his blood. You know, like you seem 222 00:10:10.639 --> 00:10:13.759 it's more like a like a chill ass kind of Dracula. 223 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:16.639 Type of what did you expect? 224 00:10:16.840 -->

00:10:19.679 I think I expected somebody that seemed to be honest 225 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:22.879 to have like more of a sense of and this 226 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:25.039 is just a wild generalization and this is probably not 227 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:27.679 the best word, but more of like an autism to them. Yeah, 228 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:29.559 and I don't. Yeah, I didn't get that at all. 229 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:32.960 It just got like a warm guy who seems like 230 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:35.679 a lot more engaging than other people I've met who 231 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:36.919 I've thought similar things about. 232 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:39.679 Yeah, yeah, it's just it's just hiding. It will manifest 233 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:42.480 in a few minutes. Yeah, that's what I was saying. 234 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:45.559 When it starts to bubble up, when you're keeper. 235 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:49.600 Whoever's operating you on on the app that turns up, 236 00:10:49.639 --> 00:10:52.039 the mask slowly starts slipping and it's like. 237 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:56.240 Oh yeah, like your database is showing dude or something exactly. 238 00:10:57.279 --> 00:10:59.279 So just so our viewers knowing so many people know 239 00:10:59.279 --> 00:11:01.000 about you now, men, there's so many clips you out there. 240 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:04.759 You've kind of you're kind of this astronaut that hasn't 241 00:11:04.840 --> 00:11:07.399 left the planet in a way kind of because it's like, 242 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:09.879 you know, you're kind of ex using yourself as an experiment. 243 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:12.279 That's what it seems. You know, you're life maxing. That's 244 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:15.159 what people say. Can you just explain to us kind 245 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:19.720 of what your general sort of goal is or what 246 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:20.879 your motive has been. 247 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:25.639 Yeah, so I'd say here's an example for you. And 248 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:29.200 in eighteen seventy, the big talk of the town was 249 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:32.279 there was this divide over this guy who had ideas 250 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:35.039 that the reason why idea is yeah around, the reason 251 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:37.120 why people were getting sick and dying is because of 252 00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:41.360 these microscopic objects called bacteria. And half the town was like, 253 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:43.639 that's stupid as fuck, what are you talking about. The 254 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:46.120 other half was like, honestly, that could be legit. Now, 255 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:48.759 like they didn't have the ability to see these microscopic 256 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:53.559 objects turned out it's true. These microscopic objects are called bacteria, right, 257 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:55.559 They can cause infections. So if you don't wash your 258 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:59.759 hands in between surgery or when you're maintaining hygiene practices, 259 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:02.960 get infection and risk increase your risk of dying. And 260 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:06.360 so that's the kind of example where a new idea 261 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:11.600 showed up, it was seen as crazy, and eventually it 262 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:13.320 turned out to be true. And now today we're like, oh, 263 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:16.440 of course, like that happens every year, every year exactly. 264 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:19.600 And so the idea I'm basically suggesting to the world 265 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:23.399 is that we've reached a point of humans on the 266 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:28.000 planet where we may not die. Now that sounds that 267 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:32.159 shit crazy, whereas and we can live forever, not even forever, right, 268 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:34.200 because it's a kind of concept we understand. It's just 269 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:37.799 that we might be able to extend our lifespans to 270 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:40.840 horizons where we can't really imagine, for example, like one 271 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:43.879 hundred five hundred one thousand, like some number we don't 272 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:47.000 even know that breaks our brains. So it's just not 273 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:50.360 like a seventy year expectancy, right, It's something much longer. 274 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:53.159 And it could be the case that as our lifespans 275 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:56.399 are extended, they get longer and longer and longer and longer. 276 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:59.240 We can't quite see the end horizon. So that's what 277 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:03.200 I'm suggesting is we are at that point with technology, 278 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:08.000 we may be the first generations of humans who don't die. Now, 279 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:12.000 if that's the case, everything changes. And so that's what 280 00:13:12.039 --> 00:13:13.399 I've been trying to do is to say that if 281 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:17.399 that is the case, how does a human behave? What 282 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:19.440 do they do? And so that's the whole That's why 283 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:22.320 it's so controversial, is because you take status quo and 284 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:24.879 it's like, if we're all gonna die anyways, well bro, 285 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:27.960 you might as well, right, like do all this stuff 286 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:28.879 people do today. 287 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:33.759 Right, drink PBR whatever for it, you know, exactly, Yeah, 288 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:36.320 knock up some woman or man. Now I think you 289 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:38.879 can even knock up. You're like, what's happening? Yeah, but 290 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:40.679 I see what you're saying. So like if you if 291 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:42.159 you say, if you got to the finish line and 292 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:43.840 they're like, oh, you can't cross the finish line anymore, 293 00:13:44.080

--> 00:13:45.480 You're like, oh, if i'd have known that, I would 294 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:48.320 have ran the race exactly right, so differently exactly or 295 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:50.919 back in n you're already taking my time along the race. 296 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:53.240 Instead now I'm just standing there at the finish line 297 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:57.559 decrepit or like with you know, just like aftermarket pieces 298 00:13:57.600 --> 00:14:00.399 and stuff, and I would have done it differently. 299 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:03.000 That's right. So like right now, like you basically, if 300 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:06.799 everybody dies, then you're playing a game of yolo. And 301 00:14:06.879 --> 00:14:09.039 so then your game is yolo, is like, okay, what 302 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:11.840 am I willing to well, I'm willing to trade life 303 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:14.039 for what? And so, for example, the world I came 304 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:17.879 from entrepreneurship. The playbook is you don't sleep, you don't 305 00:14:17.879 --> 00:14:20.279 take care of your health, you run yourself ragged. You 306 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:21.840 try very hard to make a whole bunch of money, 307 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:25.240 but in doing that, you burn yourself to a crisp, right, 308 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:28.200 and then you end up and you're like fat, you're 309 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:29.840 like forty years older than when you started. 310 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:32.120 Your family's falling apart. You're a crisp, or you don't 311 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:33.879 have one exactly, but you're just burnt to a crisp. 312 00:14:34.039 --> 00:14:35.919 That's what happened to me. And so you basically say, 313 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:39.879 I'm willing to trade life for this money, because there's 314 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:41.799 this idea of if you have money, then you get blank. 315 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:44.759 And so you're making this explicit trade off. I'm willing 316 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:48.919 to trade my conscious existence for money, and I'm saying 317 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:52.080 that trade no longer makes sense. It no longer makes 318 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:56.240 sense to die for something like that. Now we all 319 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:58.080 have like practical things, we need to pay our bills 320 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:00.000 and stuff like that. But I'm trying to basic say 321 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:02.799 we're a society that has built a society of die 322 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:06.600 and I'm working on don't die as the new way 323 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:08.039 of being humans. So that's like the gist of it. 324 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:10.519 But do you think it's easier to say that once 325 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:12.519 you have some money and once you have like a 326 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:14.600 you know, you have a place where you're like, okay, 327 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:18.080 you know, I know that I'm gonna be okay. It's like, 328 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:19.559 do you think you would have been able to switch 329 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:22.080 that mindset before having because then you got a company 330 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:24.039 and you got sold it for you know a great 331 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:27.679 deal of money and congratulations and yeah, and that's that's 332 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:29.679 the American dream, you know. But do you think you 333 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:32.679 would have been able to have that same mindset before? 334 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:35.919 Because that mindset before is like, yeah, grind get this money, 335 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:37.519 everything will be good, and it kind of is nice 336 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:40.759 in some ways because there's a goal there. Yeah, do 337 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:42.399 you think you could have had it before or is 338 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:43.360 it easier to have now. 339 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:45.840 Yeah, I mean there's there's two parts. This one is 340 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:52.840 I'm saying that like fast food companies like McDonald's and Wendy's, 341 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:58.679 they're evil. They they use science to make food that 342 00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:01.879 addicts you to their food. Right, they're building addiction, for sure, 343 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:09.039 social media algorithms they're building addiction. Right, They porn alcohol, smoking, 344 00:16:09.120 --> 00:16:12.879 Like basically, as a society, we have a predator pray 345 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:17.120 relationship where companies prey upon individuals with the best science 346 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:20.559 of technology possible and extract from them life for profit. 347 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:24.919 And so first of observation I'm saying is, hey, companies, 348 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:29.080 stop being evil, Like, don't use your powers to make 349 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:31.519 people addicted, to make them, you know, to take their 350 00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:35.200 life from them. And then two is I don't want 351 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:38.240 to blame people because I know it's easy for me 352 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:40.519 to say this once I've been on the other side. 353 00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:42.039 So one, I'm just trying to say like, hey, this 354 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:45.559 this is fucked up. Number two is I try to 355 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:47.919 be a really positive role in people's lives to say, like, 356 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:50.000 if you're ambitious and you do want to make a 357 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:53.080 whole bunch of money for example, here's a playbook, right, 358 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:57.080 Like the idea that you're better off working eighteen hours 359 00:16:57.080 --> 00:17:00.519 a day and sleeping for is just scientifically wrong. Ah, 360 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:02.480 I got it right. So like, if you're gonna work 361 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:05.039 really hard, make sure you get eight hours

of sleep, 362 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:07.359 make sure you do a little bit of exercise, eat well. 363 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:10.400 But you're not gonna be doing yourself a favor if 364 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:13.359 you're eating trash right, not sleeping well, and not working out, 365 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:16.279 like it makesure systems. Like for an engineer, it means 366 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:19.799 like nobody wants to write shitty code. If you don't 367 00:17:19.839 --> 00:17:22.519 take care of yourself, you are shitty code. It's like, 368 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:25.200 don't be shitty code and try to build life. And 369 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:26.920 so those are two things. But I want to be 370 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:29.400 very clear, like I'm not blaming people. We just live 371 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:30.640 in a fuck It sounds like that we live in 372 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:32.319 a fucked up society, yeah, And I'm trying to call 373 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:35.160 attention to the fact that like, like the system you're 374 00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:37.000 playing in is not a good. 375 00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:40.240 One and it's heavily stacked against people, and especially if 376 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:43.119 there's a lot of things where it is addiction basis, like, oh, well, 377 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:45.440 they know there's so much information now of how to 378 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:48.039 get you addicted down to the molecule, down to like 379 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:50.640 the moment of what you're looking at on your phone, 380 00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:54.759 that it really is a war. It's a battle for 381 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:57.880 your preservation. It's like it used to be that you know, 382 00:17:58.200 --> 00:17:59.759 the man had to wake up and he was he 383 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:01.839 had and know where the predator was, where the apex 384 00:18:01.880 --> 00:18:05.559 predators are. And now the apex predators are, they're you know, 385 00:18:05.839 --> 00:18:09.000 they're in our homes, they're in our hands, and it 386 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:12.960 really is it's it's still a uh, it's a battle, 387 00:18:13.119 --> 00:18:14.640 and that is a battle. It's like if you want 388 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:16.799 to take it on. And then some days and moments 389 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:18.880 and some people's lives are like, you know, I don't 390 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:20.960 really want to take that battle on, And that's kind 391 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:23.319 of okay too. But I think knowing that the battle 392 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:25.720 is there is pretty Yeah, at least makes it that 393 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:27.039 all the cards are on the table. 394 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:28.079 Yeah. 395 00:18:28.279 --> 00:18:30.440 I saw that you recently you did a social media 396 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:33.279 fast right, Yeah, I did. Yeah, take me through some 397 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:33.559 of that. 398 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:34.359 What was that like? 399 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:39.359 Yeah? So at first, I I love social media. I 400 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:40.720 think it's so much fun, Like. 401 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:42.079 We have great stuff on ex It's like you can't 402 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:44.519 even scroll directs without finding something that's great. For Brian Johnson, 403 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:47.559 and a lot of it's really great information too. Oh 404 00:18:47.599 --> 00:18:49.160 here's the post riding. I did a forty hour and 405 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:51.319 then a seventy hour social media fast. I've come to 406 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:53.200 believe that social media is pollution. 407 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:56.960 Yeah. So first of all, you know, in watching your 408 00:18:57.039 --> 00:19:00.960 Netflix specials, Like what I what I love about watching 409 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:04.799 that is you can say anything, right, Like the shit 410 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:09.000 you talk about is so is so unhinged, like literally 411 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:11.440 there's like no value maybe if that material where you're like, 412 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:14.240 probably shouldn't include that one, but like I couldn't detect it. 413 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:17.079 Oh yeah, I like just saying shit and so like 414 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:18.839 that's what you're supposed to be able to do exactly. 415 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:22.039 So, like what I love about that is the elbow 416 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:24.720 room you have, right, there's like when you look at existence, 417 00:19:24.759 --> 00:19:27.559 you say, like my goal is to entertain you, and 418 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:30.519 I have all this open space. But then when people 419 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:32.759 don't have that, when you when you don't have comedy, 420 00:19:32.759 --> 00:19:36.359 it's the outlet and you're playing in society, people sit 421 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:38.799 in a very narrow box. They feel like they can 422 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:41.039 only say certain things. If they step outside that, they 423 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:43.960 get punished by the tribe, right like for whatever reason, 424 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:46.400 And so what I love about social media is it 425 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:49.559 just has enabled me to create elbow room, Like I 426 00:19:49.640 --> 00:19:52.680 posted nudes of myself, you know, like we did the 427 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:56.039 blood trans the plasma transfers, like we we basically have 428 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:58.559 done enough thing I did. I did magic mushrooms on 429 00:19:58.599 --> 00:19:59.200 a live stream. 430 00:19:59.319 --> 00:20:01.079 Yeah, that's what it really made me think, Oh, I 431 00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:02.839 really want to talk to this guy now because he's 432 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:06.119 going into other realms. And before we get into some 433 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:08.079 of that, what were some of the findings from the 434

00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:09.640 social media fast or do you think it was long 435 00:20:09.720 --> 00:20:11.000 enough to notice anything? 436 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:14.400 It was, Honestly, it was kind of life changing. It 437 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:16.519 was I did one fast that was forty hours long, 438 00:20:16.559 --> 00:20:18.599 and then I did second fast that was seventy hours long. 439 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:23.000 And the science behind this is when you're engaged in 440 00:20:23.319 --> 00:20:28.559 social media, you basically have dopamine dysregulation, right like you're 441 00:20:28.599 --> 00:20:31.319 in this addiction state and you don't realize it, but 442 00:20:31.319 --> 00:20:33.839 it's actually creating all kinds of harm. And then you 443 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:36.519 engage with social media to feel normal again. Now, once 444 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:38.880 you pull out of it and you have that break, 445 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:41.160 you kind of get you're out of the spell, you're 446 00:20:41.160 --> 00:20:43.519 not hypnotize anymore, and then you get to feel it 447 00:20:43.559 --> 00:20:46.200 for what it is. So now when I pull up 448 00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:49.839 the feed, it feels toxic, Like it feels like I've 449 00:20:49.839 --> 00:20:52.319 had a fast food meal, or like I've had I'm 450 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:54.640 in a second hand room of secondhand smoke, or like 451 00:20:54.920 --> 00:20:58.480 it just feels so bad. And I guess that I 452 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:02.759 pay attention to these feelings because over the past five years, 453 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:06.039 I've been doing like hundreds of experiments to my body, 454 00:21:06.119 --> 00:21:09.359 like what things make my body rejuvenate and what things 455 00:21:09.359 --> 00:21:12.359 make my body die. So I have this intuition I've built, 456 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:14.279 and now when I go on social media, it like, 457 00:21:14.359 --> 00:21:17.279 literally it feels like death. And so it's complicated though, 458 00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:20.599 because I love social media. I love to post, I 459 00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:23.240 love to play, I love to interact. But also when 460 00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:25.000 I get on it's like I'm like, nah, this is 461 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:28.440 not good. So honestly it's complicated. I don't know what 462 00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:28.759 to do. 463 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:32.960 Yeah, there's a thing I notice if I've taken mushrooms before, 464 00:21:33.480 --> 00:21:35.880 and you'll look at your phone, it's like, oh, get 465 00:21:35.880 --> 00:21:38.279 that away from me. Yeah, you feel it right, Yes, 466 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:40.759 it's like, oh, that's not real. That's that's the most 467 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:43.960 unnatural thing, Like what is that it? Yes, it feels 468 00:21:44.039 --> 00:21:47.480 like a kryptonite or if I've done ayahuascar, been on ayahuasca, 469 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:49.359 you're coming

in and I see my phone, or I'll 470 00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:50.880 get home and turn on the TV, I'm like, oh, 471 00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:53.720 get that thing away from me. That is something that's 472 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:56.039 just resonating, like something dark. 473 00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:59.200 Yeah, no, interesting, like in those moments when you feel sober. 474 00:21:59.319 --> 00:22:02.759 It's like you do, you can viscerally feel it. But 475 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:04.160 then once you get in there and you kind of 476 00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:05.880 play around for a while, you don't, you lose that 477 00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:09.680 sensitivity and you feel normal again. But yeah, it's I think, 478 00:22:09.759 --> 00:22:12.000 And so what's been resonating it? I've been so I 479 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:13.920 posted this on social I said, because a lot of 480 00:22:13.960 --> 00:22:17.519 people think that social media is like a vice or 481 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:20.880 like a you know, a bad habit. But I reframed 482 00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:23.480 it and said, actually, I think it's pollution. It's like 483 00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:27.200 microplastics or lead in the pipes or spastils in the wall, 484 00:22:27.400 --> 00:22:30.440 or like you know, lead in the gasoline. I think 485 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:33.480 it really is like a societal pollution. It accumulates in 486 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:36.960 the body. It creates low great inflammation. And I've been 487 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:39.440 sharing this so many people are like, I feel this, 488 00:22:39.599 --> 00:22:43.640 but they the problem is you can't like telling someone 489 00:22:43.640 --> 00:22:45.920 to turn it off. Is like telling someone to not 490 00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:49.799 breathe coal smoke in London in the nineteenth century, like 491 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:52.759 you can't do it, or like you know, if there's 492 00:22:52.839 --> 00:22:55.200 if there's if there's water pollution, Like the solution for 493 00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:57.240 water pollution in London in nineteenth century was not to 494 00:22:57.240 --> 00:22:59.599 say don't drink water. It was like to filter the water. 495 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:02.160 So I think the solution here is, like I proposed 496 00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:06.880 this that if people could build AI to basically create 497 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:10.039 a layer of protection between me and the Internet, like 498 00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:12.400 me and and the social feed like extract out all 499 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:16.000 the performative metrics, extract out all the garbage, all the slop, 500 00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:18.119 and they give me the goodness. But I want someone 501 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:19.759 to like it would be cool if someone could build 502 00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:23.880 social media into a longevity therapy versus like he actually 503 00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:24.759 having a cigarette. 504 00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:25.680 Oh as you were. 505 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:28.119 Saying, like make it a long, slow fire that has 506 00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:31.359 like all a mix of things. 507 00:23:31.640 --> 00:23:34.119 It helped me when I engage with it. I want 508 00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:35.960 to feel good. I want to feel like I've drank 509 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:39.200 like you know, lemon water and ginger right, as opposed 510 00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:40.960 to like having a couple of cokes. Yeah, oh yeah, 511 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:43.279 you a slamming oint of energy drinks and oh. 512 00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:45.960 Yeah, dude, my friend keeps a five hour energy drinking 513 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:46.400 his sock. 514 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:49.839 Yeah, you know, like this is the thing. There's like right, 515 00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:52.400 people pound like two to three to four a day, 516 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:55.319 like between you know, four hundred and eight hundred milligrams 517 00:23:55.359 --> 00:23:58.759 of caffeine and they like on top of medafinil or something. 518 00:23:58.799 --> 00:24:00.440 You know. So it's like and. 519 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:02.400 Kids are doing it. Kids will get an energy drink 520 00:24:02.440 --> 00:24:05.200 before school. I'm like, what are you, dude? Your grades 521 00:24:05.240 --> 00:24:08.920 are bad. Yeah, it's not even performative. Yeah even doing 522 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:11.359 over there, dude. Yeah, you just because you're reading the 523 00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:13.960 fucking Crucible or whatever. I got to get you another 524 00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:14.920 Celsius or something. 525 00:24:17.119 --> 00:24:17.680 Uh ah. 526 00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:20.400 It says, hey, hey, social media users visibly decline one 527 00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:22.839 to two points in attractiveness. I seven, Oh yeah, I 528 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:25.119 saw you said something that social media even can. 529 00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:26.559 Make us uglier. Yeah it does. 530 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:27.799 This is the post really. 531 00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:32.119 Yeah, yeah, this is good science because like when you 532 00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:36.240 engage heavily in social media, you're basically your lower You 533 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:39.720 have higher depression, higher anxiety, you've got more inflammation, you 534 00:24:39.799 --> 00:24:42.480 sleep more portly. So these are all things that when 535 00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:45.000 the body is in that condition, you just look worse. 536 00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:48.759 So yeah, so heavy social media users lose at least 537 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:50.960 a point or two on the attracting the scale, like 538 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:53.160 you may go from a seven to a five. So yeah, 539 00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:55.160 it does legitimately affect parents. 540 00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:57.839 Yeah, and I think everybody kind of starts at an eight. 541 00:24:57.880 --> 00:24:59.599 That's what I think. If you brush

your teeth, you're 542 00:24:59.599 --> 00:24:59.799 an a. 543 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:02.400 You're right, right, and you're nice, You're like eight point 544 00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:04.640 five yea. How you give a good hug, you're like nine. 545 00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:06.599 Oh, you're already halfway there. Yeah, and then the rest 546 00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:09.200 is just the lord. And if your parents, if they 547 00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:13.559 were tens, wow, that's kind of fa Yeah, because I 548 00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:16.640 this is interesting because I do notice, Like, first of all, 549 00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:19.079 I'll say to people, I noticed this. Now I'll say 550 00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:20.519 to people, Hey, I'm gonna go into my phone for 551 00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:22.880 a second, right, So it's almost like I'm tay, I'm 552 00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:24.880 letting you. 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performance of any Acorns portfolio and 614 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:39.359 investing results will very investing in vols risk a Cord 615 00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:41.359 Advisors LC and I see you Reaches Investmentvisor. You important 616 00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:43.720 to the dot com slash theo oh yeah, I saw 617 00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:45.440 this this one tweet that's just getting a lot of 618 00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:48.799 attention that I saw. Mobile phone short video uses negatively 619 00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:51.359 impacts attention functions. 620 00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:54.119 Yeah. An EEG study says. 621 00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:55.640 One thing I do feel like is that there should 622 00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:58.960 be accountability for whoever is making the algorithms, like cause 623 00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:01.799 there's been kids get affected and then they watch stuff 624 00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:05.519 and then they might consider self harm, right, or people 625 00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:07.839 who you're curious about one video but then it serves 626 00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:10.000 you seven others and now you have a strong take 627 00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:12.920 about a group or about a person or anything. So 628 00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:16.519 it's like, shouldn't the creator of the algorithm, Like if 629 00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:19.119 I make something and I give it to you and 630 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:22.680 I know it's bad and poisonous, you know there should 631 00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:25.599 be you should be somewhat accountable. It feels like I 632 00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:29.440 know there's just now a court case. Or wasn't Zuckerberg 633 00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:30.039 just in court? 634 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:30.440 Yeah? 635 00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:32.960 Yeah, here we go. 636 00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:36.480 Mark Zuckerberg grilled about underage Instagram users social media addiction 637 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:40.319 during Landmark trial. In his first time testifying about child 638 00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:43.839 safety in front of a jury, Zuckerberg said the company 639 00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:46.680 does not seek to make Instagram addictive to younger users, 640 00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:49.480 pushing back against claims that the social media app is 641 00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:53.000 designed to be harmful to children. I'm focused on getting 642 00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:56.039 a community that is sustainable. If you do something that's 643 00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:59.079 not good for people, maybe they'll spend more time short term, 644 00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:01.000 but if they're not happy with it, they're not going 645 00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:03.480 to use it over time. I'm not trying to maximize 646 00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:05.559 the amount of time people spend every month. 647 00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:08.160 Yeah, this is why I was saying. I wanted to 648 00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:11.480 reframe because when people talk about social media. Typically the 649 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:14.839 blame is on the person. The person spends too much 650 00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:17.480 time on social media, right, They need to be more disciplined, 651 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:19.720 they need to set limits. And when you reframe this 652 00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:22.839 and you say, actually, social media is a pollutant, it's 653 00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:27.920 like some company manufacturing cigarettes or asbestos or lead or like. 654 00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:30.079 When you reframe it that way, it's what you said, 655 00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:34.079 is this is a pollutant driving society. That it is 656 00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:38.720 making society depressed, anxious, lose focus, right, having all sorts 657 00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:42.440 of negative psychological and physiological implications. When you reframe it 658 00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:45.440 that way, it changes the blame from the individual to like, 659 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.960 you can't reasonably expect people to want to be part 660 00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:51.640 of the tribe, to want to be part of a 661 00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:53.759 friend group, and then put them in a system like 662 00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:57.599 the It's like lead and pipes. Water is in the pipes, 663 00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:00.279 but also lead is too, so it's like you can't 664 00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:02.240 The solution is not till people get off the phone. 665 00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:05.319 You have to do some kind of filtering or something 666 00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:06.799 because it's poisonous. 667 00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:08.359 Right now, Yeah, I think it's a great way to 668 00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:08.599 say it. 669 00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:10.640 Yeah, that it's a pollutant, right, and people say, we'll 670 00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:12.920 just get off your phone, But our society has gotten 671 00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:13.880 to the place where it is. 672 00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:14.519 On our phone. 673 00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:18.160 Is we live in an electronica society in a digital age. 674 00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:21.119 So it's yeah, if you have a neighbor next door 675 00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:24.799 who is a company that's just like blowing like you 676 00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:27.480 know those smoke stacks that they never did, that they 677 00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:30.240 never had any governors on and they were just pouring 678 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.519 horrible smoke into the air. Yeah, those were held liable, 679 00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:36.599 So it makes sense that these would be two. The 680 00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:40.119 case filed in Los Angeles Superior Court involves over sixteen 681 00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:43.960 hundred planinefs, including families and school districts. Suing Meta YouTube, 682 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:50.200 which is TikTok and snap KGM, claims features like infinite 683 00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:55.160 scrolling notifications and beauty filters create addiction,

exacerbating body image, 684 00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:59.559 depression and suicidal thoughts. Yeah, some of the key moment 685 00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:03.160 zucker work denied Meta aims to addict youth, stating his 686 00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:07.640 focus is on a sustainable community where unhappy users won't 687 00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:12.920 stay long term. Grilled on underage users and ar beauty 688 00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:16.839 filters despite internal concerns, he emphasized balancing free expression and 689 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:19.720 well being, saying you don't really build social media apps 690 00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:22.559 unless you care about people. Being able to express themselves. 691 00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:24.559 I don't know if that's true anymore. 692 00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:29.119 You know, the you know what feels like is in physics, 693 00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:32.680 there's this idea like a phase transition. So when water 694 00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:36.240 is at ninety nine degrees celsius, it's a solid, When 695 00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:40.920 it's one hundred and one it's a vapor. So just 696 00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:43.920 a very small change, it's not gradual, just snaps. That's 697 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.839 a phase transition. It feels to me like social media 698 00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:50.359 is heading towards a phase transition where there's like all 699 00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:54.039 this built up, all these built up problems that are 700 00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:56.240 over like about to go from ninety nine to CE 701 00:32:56.359 --> 00:32:58.319 to one hundred and one c and it just snaps, 702 00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:01.920 and society is like we can't, right, we can't do anymore, 703 00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:04.759 Like it's too much, Like we're all fucking broken from 704 00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.599 this thing, right, it's got to stop. And like I 705 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:10.559 don't think these things are cool because they don't happen gradually. 706 00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:13.400 It's just suddenly overnight. Yeah, So I would love that 707 00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:15.839 if like somehow there was a snap and we could 708 00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:18.079 all get back our sanity. 709 00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:19.720 Right, like with ug boots, like when people were like, 710 00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:21.519 oh these are great, and Tom Brady was wearing them 711 00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:22.519 then one day, people. 712 00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.039 Were like done, yeah, yeah, the ship's we heard. 713 00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:25.319 Yeah. 714 00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:28.400 People will be so relieved to not feel like because 715 00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:28.799 right now. 716 00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:31.319 Dude, they come out with a rule right now and 717 00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:34.960 said on your phones won't even work on Saturday and Sunday. 718 00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:38.279 I think the entire world would exhale. 719 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:41.039 A hundred percent. And that's also true like on like 720 00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:45.200 grind culture, where the expectations you have to work twenty 721 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:49.759 hours a day grunt. Also it's like in this expectation. 722 00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:51.880 Your eyes open, I know, keep looking at invoice. 723 00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:55.480 It's like we're like driving ourselves insane as a species. 724 00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:58.160 Is like we're losing our shit, and like it's it's 725 00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:00.519 right there in front of us, and it's all these expectations. 726 00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:02.079 And if it would be a it would be amazing. 727 00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:02.359 I love that. 728 00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:05.079 Like the phone don't work, it's like, goddamn, let's let's 729 00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.039 just celebrate. I think, and I think people would it 730 00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:10.880 don't even work, good fuck them. I think one day 731 00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:13.719 if people take over a business or like people like 732 00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:17.960 storm the capitol, dude, storm t mobile, storm these towers 733 00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:21.159 and bring them down, free us from what this the 734 00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:24.880 it's digital chains. Yeah, where we're locked. You know, you 735 00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:29.480 know when it's people. When people are not with the tribe, 736 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:33.800 they experience it as physical death because we're we are 737 00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:36.679 evolved to live in a group of one hundred and 738 00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:39.199 fifty people or less to be seen by the tribe. 739 00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:41.719 And when you're on social media, if you're not posting 740 00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:44.760 on social media, you're not seen by the tribe. So 741 00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:47.800 it feels literally like death. That's why you can't just say, like, 742 00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:50.599 don't be on your phone, because you're like your body's like, 743 00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:52.039 am I dead to the tribe? Right? 744 00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:54.199 Do I even exist? Yeah? You feel like that? Yeah, 745 00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:55.840 I take a couple of months off, will people know? 746 00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:57.559 Do I exist? What's going on? 747 00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:00.599 So therefore you're forced into this perform of existence of 748 00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:02.840 like hey guys, I exist, remember me, Like go me 749 00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:05.280 over here, Like remember I'm part of the tribe. So 750 00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:08.360 it's just it's such a violent and abusive relationship of 751 00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:10.679 this game that no one wants to plan me Like 752 00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:13.719 it is fun, Like there's value to it, there's good information, 753 00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:15.480 like there's I don't want to say there's not virtues 754 00:35:15.519 -->

00:35:17.840 to it, but the way it's structured now is just 755 00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:20.280 like a loss for society overall. 756 00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.760 Yeah, dude, Well, there's just things that you would miss 757 00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:26.880 bro sitting there at home wondering if a chick thought 758 00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:31.360 about you or not. Yeah, Bro, and yeah, here's the thing. 759 00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:33.880 Now you can just find out immediately she's liking some 760 00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:35.920 of the dude, do you see that she's already married 761 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.239 or whatever. But back in the day, you couldn't do that, 762 00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:40.239 so you just had and you thought that she did, 763 00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:42.599 so you were like hopeful and excited, and you would 764 00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:44.599 just you would take care of yourself till the next 765 00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:46.920 time you saw. But now you would just go see 766 00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:49.719 somebody like, oh, she's out with Rick or whatever. So 767 00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:52.039 I'm now I'm depressed. Now I'm at home. Now I'm 768 00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:53.920 not even gonna get out of bed, you know. I 769 00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:58.519 think just those things, and then the also like the 770 00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:02.159 negative effects of just like if you communicate with all 771 00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:04.800 types of people all day, then when you finally see 772 00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:06.599 like your spouse or your partner at the end of 773 00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:09.360 the day, you're kind of burnt out. Sometimes you know 774 00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.199 you're burnt out because you've had all this odd connection 775 00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:17.039 that's not real connection, but it's it's a some artificial connection. 776 00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:19.920 It's like if you've been eating Freedo's all day and 777 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.440 then you get to dinner, You're like, oh, yeah, yeah, 778 00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.400 this looks so good. But I'm just I can't even 779 00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:28.960 have any right now. I'm already full of shit. 780 00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:32.119 So we with this project, we have been so basically 781 00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:34.119 project my project don't die. 782 00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:35.280 Oh your project don't die. 783 00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:35.519 Yeah. 784 00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:38.079 So like basically, like the idea is that if we 785 00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:41.079 are the first generation won't die, then the goal is 786 00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:44.320 like identify things that make you die and then don't 787 00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:45.719 do those things. So I try to eliminate them. So 788 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:47.840 what you're talking about at the end of the day, 789 00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:50.400 when you're like, I don't know what it is, but 790 00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:52.760 I just

feel like shit, right, then it's so it's 791 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:55.519 basically it's the stacking of all these things that make 792 00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:58.079 you die. For example, did you know this that when 793 00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:02.559 you walk into a fast through place like McDonald's, you 794 00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:05.239 have to smell that you you right when you walk in. 795 00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:10.639 That is like secondhand smoke. It's the aerosol, aerosolized oils. 796 00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:16.400 So like that's Ronald McDonald's cologne man colony. That creepy. 797 00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:19.440 You know what that's creepy is fuck wow, because you've 798 00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:21.880 got that play place in the bad God that is 799 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.039 that is dys dopeic holly shit, I didn't think about that. 800 00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:28.320 It is like that is one example. So we track 801 00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.880 two hundred and fifty things in our society that make 802 00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:34.840 me die. And so when you go about your day 803 00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:35.159 with this. 804 00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:37.559 Project, yeah exactly, so you guys track two hundred and 805 00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:39.000 fifty things that make you die. 806 00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:41.480 Yeah. So basically, when I started doing this, we said, okay, like, 807 00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:43.639 are we the first generation who won't die? Okay, let's 808 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:45.639 take that as a premise. So that I hired a 809 00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:48.440 team of doctors and we got to work, and so 810 00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:51.400 we we went through all the scientific evidence. We said, 811 00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:55.119 like what does a scientific evidence say about longevity and 812 00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:58.039 things that make you die? And then I measured every 813 00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:00.199 organ in my body that I could, Like we go 814 00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:02.280 through and say what is the age? So I was 815 00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:04.719 forty two years old when we started, So I said, like, 816 00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:07.639 what is the biological age of my heart? Because your 817 00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.239 biological age can be different than your chronological age. Okay, 818 00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:12.920 So for example, like my ear, my left ear is 819 00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:15.320 aged sixty four because I shot a lot of guns 820 00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:18.599 as a kid, listened to loud music, so it's impaired. 821 00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:21.079 So we measured all my organs and said, like, here's 822 00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:24.079 my baseline and then we got to work like doing 823 00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:27.599 therapies and measurement, and so I became those measured persons 824 00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:29.480 in human history. There's more data on my body than 825 00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:31.760 any humans ever lived. Wow. And so in doing that, 826 00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:34.840 we just found out like what kills the body? You know, 827 00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:38.760 like do microplastics harm the body? If so, how you know, 828 00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:43.639 just going into fast food like aerosolized does that? Like 829 00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:47.760 social media? And so when you it really resonates when 830 00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:51.400 you say, you go home, like you don't know why 831 00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:53.920 you feel like shit, But after doing this for years, 832 00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:57.000 I know why. It's like the stacking of all these 833 00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:01.440 things that society has done to make a profit and 834 00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:04.239 then it's just like you're the collateral damage. But it's 835 00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:06.960 like we've built a society of die and that's what 836 00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.360 sucks about it. So I'm I never want to approach 837 00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:11.320 it to say like hey, you individual, like you get 838 00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:12.880 off your phone or you stop doing these things. It's 839 00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:15.559 like the system's broken, right, And that's what's cool about 840 00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:18.000 this moment is if we do see this moment is 841 00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:22.559 like this is like eighteen seventy bacteria is present. Do 842 00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:25.159 we believe this crazy idea or not? Like this could 843 00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:26.960 be like it would change everything, so so like we'd 844 00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:28.559 transform ourselves as a society. 845 00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:31.639 I love that idea because, yeah, when you put it 846 00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:33.360 like that, it gives you more of a hope, It 847 00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:37.400 gives it more of like a this universal type of 848 00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:38.239 thing that's going on. 849 00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:39.159 And I feel that. 850 00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:41.400 I feel like there's a lot of people questioning everything 851 00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:43.480 right now, like is this good for me? Why did 852 00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:45.639 I believe all these companies, Why did I believe that 853 00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:48.519 the government and the FDA and the EPA that they 854 00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:50.840 were looking out for me. They It's obvious now from 855 00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:56.280 so many trials and corporate interests that they weren't. You know, 856 00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:58.960 there's all these there's there's all these things that none 857 00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:01.039 of that was happening, and so now it's back on 858 00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:03.960 us and what do we really want right because we'd 859 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:05.519 put the faith I think a lot of people would 860 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:07.599 put the faith in the hands of their government, and 861 00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:12.199 not entirely,

but you would just assume that, yeah, the 862 00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.599 food they're letting come into us, into our lives where 863 00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:17.840 we pay taxes to make sure there's an agency that 864 00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:20.280 overlooks this that it's going to be okay for us. 865 00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:22.000 And then I think it's at the point now where 866 00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:24.559 people that that idea is totally spoiled. 867 00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:26.360 So where do we go from here? 868 00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:29.199 Are those powers going to try to like imprison us 869 00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:31.880 into the space which also feels like it's gonna they're 870 00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:36.119 trying to because you have like companies like Baron Monsanto, 871 00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.800 they're lobbying, you know, like trying to keep all these 872 00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:42.079 things in our food and make sure that people can't 873 00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:44.159 sue if they do get sick or is it going 874 00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:46.639 to be that there's some sort of of a revolution. 875 00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:49.559 So I saw you just you just t having to 876 00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:53.199 pour your coffee into and that was out of a 877 00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:59.599 paper cup into a Yeah, yeah, Okay, what is the 878 00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:01.480 cause of that? Because that's the one thing a lot 879 00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:02.199 of people are thinking of. 880 00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:04.239 What So there's a lot of there's been a lot 881 00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:07.679 of discussion around microplastics. Yeah, you know, like they're everywhere. 882 00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:09.519 There are our clothes, there are are food. Like So 883 00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:13.119 we did this project where we said, okay, can we 884 00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:15.800 measure microplastics in my body? And so we did a 885 00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:20.159 few things. One is, we measured microplastics in my blood 886 00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:23.840 and we measured microplastics in my semen. Okay, and so 887 00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:28.320 two distinct biological systems. And we wanted to look at 888 00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:30.960 semen because fertility is really important, and we want to 889 00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:33.039 like because there was a few studies that showed that 890 00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:38.960 uh one percent of tested meles of tested men men 891 00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:44.760 have microplastics in their balls and their semen, and so 892 00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:48.039 we wanted to basically pose this question, could we do 893 00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:51.000 anything in life that would lower my microplastic burden in 894 00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:52.960 my body, in my blood and on my semen. And 895 00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:56.400 so we did a few things, Like one is the 896 00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:01.320 cups they use for you know, hot coffee leech microplastics. 897

00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:03.960 The heat costs of leaching to microplastics, so when you're 898 00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.719 drinking that coffee, you're consuming microplastics. And so we did 899 00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:09.480 that plus a whole bunch of other things to reduce it, 900 00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:13.280 and we dropped my microplastic burden by eighty seven percent 901 00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:16.599 in both blood and salmon. And so that was a 902 00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:18.280 big win for us because no one in the world 903 00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:20.920 had ever demonstrated that that. You can look at both 904 00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:22.719 those things and look at the remdiations. And the second 905 00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:25.320 thing we saw is we think that part of the 906 00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:29.079 reduction was from the things we did, like removing plastic cups, 907 00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:31.800 you know, plastic cutting boards, like trying to remove plastic 908 00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:35.440 from the house. Then also dry sauna. We think dry 909 00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:38.639 sauna was potentially, we're not sure potentially the cause of 910 00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:41.599 reducing microplastics in the body overall. So it's kind of 911 00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:45.360 the example of where if you hear a headline of 912 00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:49.199 like toxin, like microplastic is scary, we try to lay 913 00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:51.480 out a clear path of like you can do these 914 00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:54.639 things to reduce your exposure and to bring your levels down. 915 00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:56.880 So if we do that systematically over like a whole 916 00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:59.599 bunch of things. But yeah, that's why I basically try 917 00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:03.039 to avoid any material that would be warmed and leach 918 00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:06.039 microplastics where I stained the still you don't have that leaching. 919 00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:06.639 Problem, got it? 920 00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:10.039 And what about using just our microwaves and stuff like that, 921 00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:12.960 Are there microplastics in there? I hear recently that there's 922 00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.679 microplastics in our air fryers and stuff like that. Is 923 00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:18.400 that stuff true or is that just a sales pitch 924 00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:20.679 for them to get you to get a new air fryer. Yeah, 925 00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:22.320 I mean if your air fry I was looking at 926 00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:23.880 the air fryer recently. I think a lot of them 927 00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:28.000 are made with plastic, and so you're heating these materials 928 00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:30.920 to certain degrees where you're inevitably going to have off 929 00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:33.760 gas seen of microplastics. So I know this is the 930 00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:36.719 thing is like once you start, once you realize the 931 00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:40.760 plastic is a target, you realize you come to learn 932 00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:45.199 it's in everything, no, everywhere you look. So even now, 933 00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:47.559 like after I've tried to purge my life from plastic, 934 00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:49.559 I will still like for create. Here's an example. 935 00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:53.159 I was doing sauna to try to rid my body 936 00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:57.599 of toxins, including microplastics. I mistakenly used a towel that 937 00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:01.599 was ten percent polyester and ninety percent cotton. So there 938 00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:06.119 I am trying to rid myself toxins and I'm using 939 00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:10.320 it on my body all right, like wiping my body 940 00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:12.400 with toxins. So like you know, like that was an 941 00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:16.440 idiotic mistake, but like an example, like we're always we're 942 00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:18.119 just finding this forever. So I got rid of all 943 00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:20.320 the I thought that was a cotton towler wasn't. 944 00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:21.079 But we have rid of that. 945 00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:23.920 But it's just forever. It's it's amazing how omnipresent they are. 946 00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:26.440 Yeah, I've actually been working with this company, American Giant 947 00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:30.599 that they make. They've tried to use just American cotton 948 00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:33.199 and make their products just in America like that, I 949 00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:38.199 mean just a top to bottom America only company that 950 00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:42.119 makes textiles or clothing, because they don't really even have 951 00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:45.599 those anymore. I remember their journey was, how do we 952 00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:47.519 even get a shirt made here? And it was seemingly 953 00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:49.880 impossible just because we don't have the looms. There's so 954 00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:53.119 many things we don't have. But we've been working on 955 00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:56.000 a cotton like a cotton only underwear that would be 956 00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:58.960 just so it's only cotton, right, so you're not dealing 957 00:44:59.000 --> 00:44:59.800 with anything else. 958 00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:00.400 Awesome. 959 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:02.719 What fabrics have you found that are okay to kind 960 00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:05.599 of keep on your body that do not have microplastics 961 00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:07.079 in them? And which ones are the ones that people 962 00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:08.000 need to be weary of? 963 00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:09.960 Yeah, there's a list, so, I mean one is on 964 00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:13.280 the cotton stuff. Is we were we've everything I'll put 965 00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:16.360 into my body. We test like all the food I eat. Uh, So, 966 00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:21.400 we were testing clothing and actually we tested a diaper,

967 00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:25.400 a diaper where the portion of the diaper that absorbs 968 00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:28.320 the urine for the baby. We tested that and it 969 00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:31.719 was like eight times as high in glifol sate, so 970 00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:35.559 so so cotton unexpectedly. 971 00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:37.000 That's what's in the pesticide exactly. 972 00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:41.440 So cotton is better than like a polyester, but cotton 973 00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:44.360 is also not like it's not just pure, right, so 974 00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:48.639 there could be residual pesticides in your cotton. Like how 975 00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:50.599 fast it come out, we don't know. But this is like, 976 00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:53.679 I this is like dangerous. I think a lot of 977 00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:55.960 people listening to car like, oh my god, I give up. 978 00:45:56.159 --> 00:45:57.800 But like what do I do? Right? 979 00:45:57.960 --> 00:45:59.880 But like I want to give you hope. Like you 980 00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:04.800 you just slowly peel back one layer after another after another, 981 00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:07.440 like chip away, It's okay, we'll get after, we'll get 982 00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:09.400 on top of this. But just like you just know 983 00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:12.639 that there's always these layers. So yeah, so we tested that, 984 00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:14.599 and so that's in the diaper. Now, there's no evidence 985 00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:17.760 that glifl state can go from a diaper into the skin. 986 00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:20.119 No one's tested it. So maybe it is. But if 987 00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:23.920 it is, that's terrible. We're bathing our children, You're brave, 988 00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:28.280 bathing their private parts in pesticides and these diapers and 989 00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:30.199 so like this is the kind of thing where I'm saying, like, 990 00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:33.239 once you start chasing these these paths, you just find 991 00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:38.119 out society has built itself for profit. They've not built 992 00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:42.239 itself for life. And that's what you see everywhere. And 993 00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:44.800 so back to this conversation the point you made before 994 00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:48.800 of like this idea of care, like think of Okay, 995 00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:53.719 here's a question for you. Who in your life unquestionably 996 00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:57.440 acts in your best interest, like, without debt, without a doubt, 997 00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:02.360 they acting your best interest, brother, Like you can probably 998 00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:05.519 count on one hand, right, Yeah, everyone else, like whether 999 00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:08.760 it's like a social group or whether it's companies or 1000 00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:11.800 the government or whatever, everybody else shows up with a 1001 00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:18.159 complicated set

of objectives. Part of it maybe like's good, 1002 00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:20.000 but the whole bunch of other the rapper behind it, 1003 00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:23.559 maybe like they want something from you. And so there's 1004 00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:25.400 this idea of care that I'm trying to pioneer with 1005 00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:28.960 the company I'm building around this is can we legitimately, 1006 00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:33.639 unquestionably always act in our customers best interest, even if 1007 00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:36.719 it means we lose money. We always show up for you, 1008 00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:39.239 because that's what I've been trying to do in this 1009 00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:42.239 whole process. But it just shows that as a society 1010 00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:47.599 we don't have care as a principle. Is our society, 1011 00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:50.320 Like you're not expected actually acting someone's best interest. You're 1012 00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:52.480 expected to have a better exchange to make profitable. 1013 00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:54.559 Well, sometimes I will romanticize, Well it probably used to 1014 00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:56.440 be that way, and I don't know if that's true 1015 00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:59.760 or not. But the fact that we're at that place now, 1016 00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:03.519 I think is important. We do this thing this this 1017 00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:05.440 year around the holidays where we've tried to find ten 1018 00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:10.440 American companies that were like American made products and and 1019 00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:12.320 then show those off like highlight those. 1020 00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:13.519 It was me and Mike Row. 1021 00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:16.840 And it was just so if you want to buy 1022 00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:18.960 something that's America, you can get it. You know, this 1023 00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:21.559 is something that when you buy it, you're supporting a 1024 00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:25.280 fellow American. So it's like, screw these big companies, Like 1025 00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:27.079 if I buy from you and you buy from me, 1026 00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:31.079 then we keep each other alive. Were it only you know. 1027 00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:34.920 So we're trying to start to create this this space 1028 00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:37.440 where you can do that, where it's like, if I 1029 00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:39.159 want to buy something, I'd rather instead of going to 1030 00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:42.239 look at like these things that are in the same 1031 00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:44.639 shelves in every single place, why do I go find 1032 00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:47.199 this unique thing that's only made by one of my 1033 00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:48.320 fellow human beings. 1034 00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:49.599 You know, that's a cool idea. 1035 00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:51.320 It's one of the things that's kind of made me 1036 00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:55.280 most excited recently, Like in the world and we're trying 1037 00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:57.360 to work with like Shopify or something, you know, some 1038 00:48:57.559 --> 00:48:59.800 company to come along and be like, well, these are 1039 00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:01.840 the sites. You know, people are gonna need these sites 1040 00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:04.039 to build their products. Because then it's like if like 1041 00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.519 we even had a woman who sells like these really 1042 00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:11.440 like great little characters and and kind of ornaments and stuff. 1043 00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:13.480 So we had some artists and creatives in there, but 1044 00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:15.840 it was great and and a lot of them had 1045 00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:16.480 great profits. 1046 00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:18.280 It was like, Oh, people want this right. 1047 00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:21.199 People want to go down the road where there is 1048 00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:24.719 like some accountability for themselves and they want to be 1049 00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:27.760 in a way where they can uh where they're the 1050 00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:31.639 purchase that where they're putting their money. It feels like 1051 00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:34.920 I'm giving this to someone else who I know probably 1052 00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:36.679 needs it just as much as I do. You know, 1053 00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:39.280 they're just a regular person. They're not a big entity, 1054 00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:41.000 you know, so I think anyway I'm saying, I think 1055 00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:44.840 there's somewhat of a people do care or we to 1056 00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:48.840 get people to care where they're spending. You know, that's 1057 00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:51.480 kind of stuff is very important. What are your thoughts 1058 00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:54.119 on RFK Juniors his eat Real Food Initiative. 1059 00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:54.559 Have you seen that? 1060 00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:56.559 Yeah? Have Yeah, Tyson being the spokesperson. 1061 00:49:57.239 --> 00:49:57.519 What's that. 1062 00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:00.360 Yeah, Mike Tyson was was the spokesperson. He he was 1063 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:01.159 in the Super Bowl AD. 1064 00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:03.880 Oh I didn't even see that. Yeah yeah, but because 1065 00:50:03.880 --> 00:50:05.239 he came on here and he talked about it. He 1066 00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:07.920 just said, eat real food, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1067 00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:09.679 I think it's great. I mean I think so rfk's 1068 00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:12.679 a friend. Yeah, yeah, he like he's getting after it, 1069 00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:16.559 you know, like people, like in any situation, people are 1070 00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:19.760 gonna have various opinions. Fine, but he's really trying his best. 1071 00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:22.360 So I respect that he's pulling up and you know, 1072 00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:24.519 he's made some great h he has some

great wins 1073 00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:28.360 getting rid of food dies and so yeah, I mean 1074 00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.480 I'm I'm grateful him doing it, and it was cool, 1075 00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:33.840 you know. Like Mike Tyson is probably the person that 1076 00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:36.400 has been in my consciousness more than any public figure 1077 00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:39.840 when I was when I was seven years old, he 1078 00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:41.679 had pet I think he was twenty one. He just 1079 00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:45.320 won the belt and he was on the cover of 1080 00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:48.760 Sports Illustrated like every week. Again, it's right, I would 1081 00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:50.719 cut those out and I had it on my wall. 1082 00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:55.079 But Mike Tyson was my idol and the I actually, 1083 00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:57.920 this is like a terrible story. I loved him so much, 1084 00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:01.239 and I saved up all I worked all summer long 1085 00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:03.400 mowing lawns and like doing all this whole bits of shit. 1086 00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:06.079 I save up money and I bought the pay per view. 1087 00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:08.760 It was like forty four dollars and ninety five cents. 1088 00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:11.119 I called my friends over. I'm going to treat them 1089 00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:15.320 to this amazing experience. And he was fighting Buster Douglas, 1090 00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:19.519 his first big loss, and oh my god, that was 1091 00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:23.639 That was like soul wrenching because I wanted to see 1092 00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:25.159 Tyson like, you know, knock out of the park. I'd 1093 00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:26.960 never seen him fight live, and you couldn't just like 1094 00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:28.239 pull him up on clips on YouTube. 1095 00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:30.840 YouTube. It's like it's harder to see you. But anyway, 1096 00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:34.480 somebody like tangent there. But it's cool to see Tyson 1097 00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.960 go from that to now he's like in my world 1098 00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:40.639 talking about real food and how it's important. So I 1099 00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:42.480 think he's he's had a cool life ARC. 1100 00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:44.440 He has had a great life ARC. I mean, he's 1101 00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:44.960 pretty fascint. 1102 00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:46.599 We're supposed to do a podcast with him coming up 1103 00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:50.119 soon actually in La Actually, so if I do do that, man, 1104 00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:51.320 I'll have to make sure that you get to. 1105 00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:51.880 Come over there. 1106 00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:53.960 Would love to. I would love to meet him. 1107 00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:56.920 That'd be super dude. Yeah, oh yeah, he was like, 1108 00:51:57.679 --> 00:52:01.880 you know, boxers were such like I don't know if 1109 00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:05.679 like they were such gods. 1110 00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:09.280 They held that status right in the eighties. They were 1111 00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:13.360 it like you have like basketball, you have the Bulls, 1112 00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:17.440 You've got the Bears, Uh, you know, bo Jackson like 1113 00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:18.199 they were it. 1114 00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:22.119 Yeah, one hundred percent. What do you think the government's 1115 00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:24.480 role should be in our health and diet? 1116 00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:29.639 So I guess like two things. One is there there 1117 00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:32.960 are a lot of things I want to do that 1118 00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:35.719 I can't do because the government prevents me from doing it. 1119 00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:38.559 So I can go out and smoke, I can eat 1120 00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:41.599 fast food, I can eat all the junk food out there, 1121 00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:46.639 but I can't try a new longevity drug. Companies are 1122 00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:49.480 forbidden from allowing me through that. So like in many ways, 1123 00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:54.039 I dislike, Uh, they give me the freedom to kill myself, 1124 00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:56.320 but I can't have the I don't have the right 1125 00:52:56.360 --> 00:52:58.599 to experiment on myself. And I wish I had more 1126 00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:01.320 experiment experimental power that I could do. 1127 00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:03.559 That have there been certain drugs is that that you 1128 00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:05.960 wanted to go try or a lot of them really? Yeah, Yeah, 1129 00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:08.679 what's one that really kind of you know, tickles your 1130 00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:09.559 Benjamin button. 1131 00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:12.559 Yeah, I think that's good. I mean there's a whole 1132 00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:17.639 bunch of Uh, there's like probably a dozen. And like, 1133 00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:21.480 the thing I want to do is I want to 1134 00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:24.519 accept the responsibility of determining if it's safe or not. 1135 00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:27.159 Now if I mess up, it's on me. Yeah, Like 1136 00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:29.519 I'll take that responsibility, but I do. I don't want 1137 00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:31.719 them to say like only after, because then it it 1138 00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:35.280 creates this gigantic not it makes sense. Companies go through 1139 00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:39.079 like a structured process and they say it's gone through 1140 00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:41.199 this process, we give it a stamp of approval. It's 1141 00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:43.480 like it's a good idea, like on large scale vaccines, 1142 00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:46.079 like you don't want to ship a shitty vaccine to society, 1143 00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:50.400 totally get it. Also right on like an equals one 1144 00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:54.199 like me scale, I want to do things without their 1145 00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:56.320

limiting my ability to do it. So it's a really 1146 00:53:56.360 --> 00:54:00.320 tricky balance because there there needs to be some ructure 1147 00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:04.000 in place where as a member of the society, I 1148 00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:07.000 can say I trust some entity to ensure what I'm 1149 00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:11.039 doing is safe. Because we're saying, the company itself can't 1150 00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:13.159 be trusted, right, Like there needs to be some right, 1151 00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:15.840 some middleman. Yeah, but like that's the idea, but now 1152 00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:17.760 the middleman, it feels like I can't be trusted exactly, 1153 00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:20.119 Like what if we just like take this little wholesale 1154 00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:22.880 What we're going back to is care, right, Like, do 1155 00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:28.000 I trust that whoever is doing something is legitimately looking 1156 00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:29.800 after my best interests or not? And this is why 1157 00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:31.519 I'm saying, when you go back to like who legitimately 1158 00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:33.639 is looking after your best interest, it's not like one hand, 1159 00:54:33.679 --> 00:54:36.719 it's your brother. Yeah, And so what if we established 1160 00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:40.480 as a society the principle of care? And now that's 1161 00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:42.360 hard because you have to do things that are not 1162 00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:44.719 in your best financial interest. You've got to do things 1163 00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:47.199 like don't look good. So like it really puts a 1164 00:54:47.320 --> 00:54:50.079 different mentality. But also, man would be kick assed live 1165 00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:52.239 in that society. Yeah, where you know, if you're gonna 1166 00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:54.159 tell me take a drug like you're not hide and shit, 1167 00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:56.280 like you're not like you know, so that'd be cool. 1168 00:54:56.599 --> 00:54:59.800 So oh yeah, it would be so nice because imagine 1169 00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:02.119 all so the stress that it adds to all of us. Yeah, 1170 00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:03.159 you know, it's so stressful. 1171 00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:03.280 Now. 1172 00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:05.559 It's like you go eat a hotcake or whatever, and 1173 00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:08.440 you're like, is this thing that to kill me? Not today, yeah, 1174 00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:11.079 but is there something in here that they're strategizing to 1175 00:55:11.199 --> 00:55:13.480 kill me thirty years from now? Yeah, you know, to 1176 00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:16.239 create some new disease in me that then I'll need 1177 00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:17.440 some new type of medicine. 1178 00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:17.559 You know. 1179 00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:20.440 It's just kind of yeah, it's a lot of turmoil. 1180 00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:25.199 What is your kind of daily dietary strategy? Where do 1181 00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:27.880 you stand with your diet? Yeah, and then we'll talk 1182 00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:29.199 about like supplements that you like. 1183 00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:29.519 Cool. 1184 00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:32.280 Yeah. The principle here is that I am a collection 1185 00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:36.199 of around seventy trillion cells, like Brian Johnson is seventy 1186 00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:39.320 trillion cells. Half like over half of those cells are 1187 00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:41.719 alien cells or not even me. There's bacteria. So I'm 1188 00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:43.440 like around thirty thirty five trillion cells. 1189 00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:44.320 Is that true? 1190 00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:47.039 Yeah? Yeah, you you are a collection of like seventy 1191 00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:47.800 trillion cells. 1192 00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:50.760 That makes deal vonn okay, And half of those cells 1193 00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:53.920 are not they're not you, they're not natural born citizens. 1194 00:55:53.960 --> 00:55:56.320 Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, they're immigrants. Yeah, So like they're 1195 00:55:56.480 --> 00:56:00.159 bacteria anothers that are hanging out in your equals system. 1196 00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:02.840 And so the question is, like, you know, when it 1197 00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:06.280 comes to food, food is just a collection of molecules. 1198 00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:09.400 So you're taking one set of molecules and you put 1199 00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:11.679 them in your molecules and you see, like what happens. 1200 00:56:12.440 --> 00:56:15.280 And so we know, for example, when you take fast 1201 00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:18.320 food those molecules put in your body, it does bad stuff. 1202 00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:21.199 And so with diet, we basically just say, if you 1203 00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:24.639 have to create a list of the very best molecules 1204 00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:28.280 in existence that help the body thrive, what are those molecules. 1205 00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:30.400 So every calorie has a fire for it's life. And 1206 00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:32.960 so that's the first principle. And then two is I 1207 00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:38.239 don't subscribe to any camp like I'm not carnivore, I'm 1208 00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:41.199 not vegan, I'm a vegetarian. I'm not paleo, I'm not keto. 1209 00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:43.559 I don't care. I just want to look at the 1210 00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:45.360 evidence and say, you take a given thing, you put 1211 00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:48.880 in the body, what happens. And so my diet primarily 1212 00:56:48.920 --> 00:56:53.320 consists of a whole bunch of vegetables. I do berries, nuts, seeds, extraverts, 1213 00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:56.199 olive oil. That's primarily what I And so I'm just 1214 00:56:56.400 --> 00:56:59.400 I'm extremely meticulous because I'm trying to become the most 1215 00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:01.960 don't die per from the world. So but you know, 1216

00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:04.440 if people enjoy eating meat, eat meat, you know, like 1217 00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:07.400 do your thing. If you enjoy eggs, do eggs. Just 1218 00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:09.880 measure your body, Like, measure your body and see if 1219 00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:12.360 you're happy or not if the body is So there's 1220 00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:15.119 what your mind can say, like oh I love blank, 1221 00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:17.760 But measuring your body is a different thing. Your body 1222 00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:19.280 is going to tell is going to speak the truth, 1223 00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:22.000 not your mind. So basically, like you want to measure 1224 00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:25.559 out your body, report out how's inflammation, how's cholesterol, like, 1225 00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:26.800 how's all the different markers. 1226 00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:29.719 So, and when it comes to meat and things like that, 1227 00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:31.800 are they're just you don't like them or you feel 1228 00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:33.760 like they don't work for your body. Was there something 1229 00:57:33.800 --> 00:57:35.480 that you found that you're like, this isn't the best 1230 00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:39.119 for me. So it's actually I mean one is I 1231 00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:42.239 think there's two points. One is, I think you can 1232 00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:46.239 make an evidence based argument that a diet that primarily 1233 00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:51.679 consists of vegetables, berries, nuts, seas, extraverts, olive oil, legomes 1234 00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:57.880 is one of the best paths to longevity, not the only, 1235 00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:00.920 but like a good one. And then on the like 1236 00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:04.679 red meat, there's not a ton of evidence that a 1237 00:58:04.760 --> 00:58:07.400 lot of a ton of longevity evidence that says this 1238 00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:12.320 thing is a longevity producer. Now, but I pull myself 1239 00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:14.480 out of the argument because I don't care about red meat. 1240 00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:16.400 I don't care about the argument. I don't care about 1241 00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:19.199 the disagreement. If somebody wants to eat red meat, I 1242 00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:21.519 support you and eating red meat. Like I'm not gonna 1243 00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:24.000 go after red meat. Like I'm not that person. So 1244 00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:25.880 just like, do you pat you on the back while 1245 00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:28.400 you have a little you know, you have some burning, Yeah, 1246 00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:31.280 Like do your thing and just measure your body. So 1247 00:58:31.400 --> 00:58:32.599 I try to do that, and I try to then 1248 00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:35.159 share my body biomarkers and say, here's what my body 1249 00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:37.719 looks like, here's the evidence. If you want to try 1250 00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:40.639 it out, here you go. But like a lot of 1251 00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:44.800 so like a couple of things. One is, I love 1252 00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:47.440 extra version olive oil. I think it's one of the 1253 00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:49.199 best foods you can put in your body. 1254 00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:50.199 Is that a seed oil or not? 1255 00:58:50.639 --> 00:58:50.679 No? 1256 00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:54.599 Okay, yeah, there's like this whole seed oils are bad 1257 00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:54.880 for you. 1258 00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:55.400 I don't. 1259 00:58:55.639 --> 00:58:56.199 I don't buy it. 1260 00:58:56.320 --> 00:58:56.639 You don't. 1261 00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:01.519 No, I think it's fried. It's it's high temp seed oils. 1262 00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:04.719 M But you know, like cold press seed oils, you know, 1263 00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:06.559 like they're fine. So like that whole thing I think 1264 00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:07.000 got away. 1265 00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:09.239 But so you think the seat oil thing is kind 1266 00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:09.719 of out there. 1267 00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:12.440 Yeah yeah, it's you don't want to heat them. That's 1268 00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:15.639 when they become dangerous. But cold press sed oils, the 1269 00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:18.800 evidence says, are fine. But again, like if somebody wants 1270 00:59:18.800 --> 00:59:21.960 to do it, great, like you know, stay in or 1271 00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:24.519 take it. Just measure yourself and try to find the markers. 1272 00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:27.320 Right, checking with yourself, have some sort of like Okay, 1273 00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:29.320 how do I really feel after having this? 1274 00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:29.719 Yeah? 1275 00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:32.440 How does your body report out? Not your mind, not 1276 00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:35.280 your opinion, not what social media says. Ask your body 1277 00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:37.840 to report out with buyomarkers, get a blood draw, look 1278 00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:40.159 at your markers to say it's the body happier. 1279 00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:43.679 Sad, right, not each time you but you're saying overtime. 1280 00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:47.760 Overtime, yeah, because those like your body reflects your diets 1281 00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:51.360 over a period of time. Yeah yeah, but like the 1282 00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:53.320 easy ones like just avoid there we go. 1283 00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:56.639 Yeah, this was just saying cooking oils. Not all cooking 1284 00:59:56.679 --> 00:59:59.840 oils are created equal. This chart breaks down the linoleic 1285 01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:03.320 acid content and different oils, helping you make informed choices 1286 01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:08.360 for heart health and inflammation control. High linoleic oils like soybeans, sunflour, 1287 01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:12.079 and corn oil can contribute to inflammation. Healthier options like 1288 01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:15.239 coconut olive and grass fed butter off for

beneficial fats. 1289 01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:18.400 But you don't buy into this. I mean, so this 1290 01:00:18.559 --> 01:00:21.159 is cooking, this is what does this is actually using 1291 01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:23.440 it for cooking. Yeah, what does well at higher heats. 1292 01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:26.440 So this is kind of what you're saying actually that 1293 01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:30.159 some of these, uh may provide less health benefit for you. 1294 01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:33.679 But on this though, like this graph, I want to 1295 01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:38.559 see the toxic compounds that are formed. Otherwise, like I 1296 01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:39.360 don't know how to read this. 1297 01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:42.760 Graph right right, and they'll show stuff like this, I 1298 01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:44.559 mean even in trap me it just you know they 1299 01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:46.400 use their red, yellow, green, Yes, exactly. 1300 01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:48.599 There's a lot of small strategies that can kind of 1301 01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:50.880 like I want to use. I will see what temperature, 1302 01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:54.960 what are the toxic compounds? I'm evaluating what do they form, 1303 01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:57.239 like you know, et cetera. Self that that is like 1304 01:00:57.320 --> 01:00:59.440 a that'd be a much more quantified approach. But I'd 1305 01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:00.840 say all right, and now I feel like I have 1306 01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:03.840 a good basis for decision making versus like this is 1307 01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:07.119 easy to read online. You see red, green, yellow, it's like, okay, 1308 01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:09.559 good bad, because anything more than good bad it kind 1309 01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:11.039 of gets overwhelming for people. 1310 01:01:11.239 --> 01:01:14.920 Yeah, for sure. Yeah, you say extra version olive oil, 1311 01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:15.400 that's sort of. 1312 01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:15.880 Your go to. 1313 01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:18.920 Yeah, based upon the evidence I, my team and I 1314 01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:20.840 have reviewed, this is what I would suggest if people 1315 01:01:20.920 --> 01:01:26.119 want quick takeaways. One is I consume more extra Versi 1316 01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:28.760 olive oil than any food in my diet. It's fifteen 1317 01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:32.000 percent of my daily color can take. But it's we 1318 01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:35.079 source it ourselves, We test it in the lab ourselves. 1319 01:01:35.519 --> 01:01:39.960 It's high polyphenol, has the right acids, right constitution. So 1320 01:01:40.039 --> 01:01:42.639 it's a specific kind of olive oil. It's not just 1321 01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:45.000 because most olive oil is bullshit, like most of it 1322 01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:46.840 does nothing and most of a lot of Yeah, so 1323 01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:49.920 you need to very so whatever you buy, make sure 1324 01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:51.599 it has a third party

lab test result. 1325 01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:54.800 Now that's that's a lot like what is there a 1326 01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:56.760 brand that you tell us? I mean, I know, or 1327 01:01:56.840 --> 01:01:58.519 do you have this yourself that we can buy it? 1328 01:01:58.559 --> 01:01:59.159 Do you have your own? 1329 01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:01.280 I do it myself. It's like going back to that 1330 01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:04.800 discussion of care and trust. After playing this game for 1331 01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:08.400 five years, I don't trust anybody yeah, no one, Like 1332 01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:10.519 I don't care what they say in marketing, I don't care. 1333 01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:11.639 I just don't trust anyone. 1334 01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:12.320 That's how I am. 1335 01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:14.159 So like, yeah, I want to source it from the 1336 01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:15.840 farm myself. I want to test it in the third 1337 01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:17.880 party lap. So I just basically I did this my 1338 01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:20.239 whole self. And then my friends are like I want 1339 01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:21.800 this too, and I'm like sure, yeah. 1340 01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:22.800 I was about to ask you for something and this 1341 01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:24.199 is but this is one you guys have. It's called 1342 01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:24.679 snake oil. 1343 01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:27.599 Yeah, we like it's kind of a troll, yeah, but yeah, 1344 01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:31.679 it's basically we source from both hemispheres, Southern hemisphere Northern hemisphere. 1345 01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:33.639 We always have a fresh batch. We did third party testing. 1346 01:02:33.679 --> 01:02:36.760 It's high polyphenols, so all of and also like I 1347 01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:40.320 do a tablespoon with every mill because when you eat food, 1348 01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:43.719 it causes damage to your body. Like a lot of 1349 01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:45.400 people don't know that. They think like food is like 1350 01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:47.559 a good thing, which it is, but also there's a 1351 01:02:47.840 --> 01:02:51.880 there's damage associated. So olive oil lessens that damage, like 1352 01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:54.519 lessen some of the oxidative damage. So that's all oils. 1353 01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:54.719 One. 1354 01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:58.239 Two is I ate a lot of lagomes like lentils 1355 01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:02.159 at amamaise beans, a lot of vegetables, but I steam them. 1356 01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:06.679 So when you when you char something, whether it be 1357 01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:10.800 charring vegetables or meat or something, it builds something called 1358 01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:15.519 ages as advanced. I hit it in products, which is 1359 01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:18.000 basically just thinking about like junk that builds up in 1360 01:03:18.079 --> 01:03:20.719 your in your in your body. You don't want it. 1361 01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:24.920 So I

steam vegetables to lower the ages. And then 1362 01:03:25.039 --> 01:03:30.960 I eat a lot of nuts, macadamia nuts, almonds, walnuts. 1363 01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:34.920 I like walnuts, Yeah right, those are like the those 1364 01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:37.559 are good ones like I don't eat cashews or peanuts. 1365 01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:39.519 Those are like the less valuable. 1366 01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:44.559 We're drunkards nuts. Yeah. 1367 01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:47.599 Then I do a lot of cash. 1368 01:03:48.119 --> 01:03:50.960 Looks like it's fucking looks like it doesn't even know 1369 01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:51.599 what it's doing. 1370 01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:56.639 You look at as it looks kind of bisexual, which 1371 01:03:56.760 --> 01:03:59.360 is fine. But I'm just saying it looks like it'll 1372 01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:02.400 sleep over anybody's house to. 1373 01:04:02.519 --> 01:04:05.599 Me, Yeah, I think it's a good interpretation. 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With over thirty thousand therapists, Betterhelp is the 1422 01:06:46.440 --> 01:06:51.440 world's largest online therapy platform, having served over six million 1423 01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:54.679 people globally and maybe even people on other planets. We 1424 01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:58.760 don't know your emotional wellbeing matters. Find support and feel 1425 01:06:58.840 --> 01:07:01.519 lighter in therapy. Sign up and get ten percent off 1426 01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:05.559 at betterhelp dot com slash THEO that's better h e 1427 01:07:06.039 --> 01:07:08.360 LP dot com slash THEO. 1428 01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:11.559 Yeah, I had I had a couple of thoughts, you know, 1429 01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:14.000 like your THEO. I wish I could say. I wish 1430 01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:15.760 I could talk about shit like

you do. Like I 1431 01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:18.039 have several thoughts I just had. I'd like to express them, 1432 01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:20.559 but I don't, you know, like I still play within 1433 01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:23.280 a certain box of like what I can and cannot say. 1434 01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:24.880 But it is if do you think it's some of 1435 01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:26.840 that's for like business purposes or you just think it's 1436 01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:28.519 just like a social way that you learned. 1437 01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:33.000 I mean, it's like they're as as weird as I 1438 01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:35.280 am and as much elbow room as I've created in 1439 01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:39.119 doing crazy shit. There's still some things that I would 1440 01:07:39.119 --> 01:07:42.960 say that would alienate certain people, and so I do 1441 01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:46.239 have some some parameters and so but I you know, 1442 01:07:46.360 --> 01:07:48.559 if if I wasn't doing this honestly, I do stand 1443 01:07:48.599 --> 01:07:51.320 up comedy really oh yeah, oh yeah. If you're like, 1444 01:07:52.039 --> 01:07:54.079 well that's cool, oh man, it would it would be 1445 01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:58.039 It would be so much fun because you basically you're 1446 01:07:58.119 --> 01:08:01.599 trying to put your finger on the thing. Yeah, that's 1447 01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:02.960 what I try to do my life. But like, and 1448 01:08:03.079 --> 01:08:05.880 so when people the response of course is like how 1449 01:08:06.039 --> 01:08:07.880 good you are putting your finger on the thing that 1450 01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:10.440 they already know, right, but you're willing to say it 1451 01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:11.800 and you can shring it together. 1452 01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:14.079 So yeah, but you're kind of doing that. You're kind 1453 01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:16.319 of like a I mean, it's just not stand up comedy, 1454 01:08:16.359 --> 01:08:18.439 but you're just doing it for our health, you know. Yeah, 1455 01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:21.439 And I would way rather you're this guy out there 1456 01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:25.520 who's like just who's basically riding around being his own 1457 01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:28.640 voodoo doll and shit, and have you out there like 1458 01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:31.760 trying jokes which you may have been very successful at 1459 01:08:31.760 --> 01:08:34.439 as well. But I'm glad you're doing what you are. 1460 01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:36.960 Maybe you know, maybe it'd be a side thing or 1461 01:08:37.079 --> 01:08:39.880 next life. But also some people might not even take 1462 01:08:39.920 --> 01:08:41.840 you as seriously. You know, one night I watched John 1463 01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:43.840 Mayer he got up into a stand up comedy. Yeah, 1464 01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:46.079 and he's like, man, I love stand up comedy. I 1465 01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:47.520 would have loved to have been a stand up comedian. 1466 01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:50.199 He goes, but now I'm so known for being what 1467 01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:55.239 I am that I can't even be this because it 1468 01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:57.760 just people wouldn't accept it or wouldn't give you the 1469 01:08:57.960 --> 01:09:02.119 same walkway into their lives as as they would knowing 1470 01:09:02.159 --> 01:09:03.119 I'm already John May. 1471 01:09:03.119 --> 01:09:05.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you like I would love to take 1472 01:09:06.039 --> 01:09:08.479 on that challenge. And man, I would like you could 1473 01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:10.439 have so many great jokes. I want to make fun 1474 01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:15.000 of myself, like I'm so weird, right of course you. 1475 01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:17.640 Are, dude, you probably you probably mightn't even have any 1476 01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:19.920 blood in your body. Dude, you could go to a 1477 01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:22.520 blood draw and they just keep drawing and drawing the 1478 01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:26.680 deceit there, nurses are coming out like we don't know 1479 01:09:26.960 --> 01:09:29.800 you know? I mean, oh, dude, I bet if you 1480 01:09:30.039 --> 01:09:31.520 have you ever been on Kill Tony? Have you been 1481 01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:32.000 on that show? 1482 01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:32.520 Oh? 1483 01:09:32.640 --> 01:09:32.760 Bro? 1484 01:09:33.399 --> 01:09:36.119 If you I wonder if we maybe next time I 1485 01:09:36.159 --> 01:09:37.640 go in there, you and me could go he's this? 1486 01:09:37.800 --> 01:09:38.479 Have you ever seen it? 1487 01:09:38.800 --> 01:09:38.840 No? 1488 01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:41.439 It's this It's like the Tonight Show now, but they 1489 01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:45.520 do it down in Austin and it's uh And dude, 1490 01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:47.760 I bet people would write some jokes. Bro, it would 1491 01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:49.840 be so it'd be solid fun. 1492 01:09:49.880 --> 01:09:51.920 I would love to this is it? 1493 01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:54.880 It's so much fun. Bro, every week they have it. 1494 01:09:55.359 --> 01:09:57.279 You would be the best on there. Dude. 1495 01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:03.199 I went to a couple roast meat shows and it's 1496 01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:03.640 pretty good. 1497 01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:04.039 Yeah. 1498 01:10:04.199 --> 01:10:06.560 Yeah, Oh, I really enjoy people making fun of me. 1499 01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:07.319 It's fun. 1500 01:10:07.359 --> 01:10:09.000 My buddy Adam Hunter does. I used to do a 1501 01:10:09.039 --> 01:10:10.680 lot of those. I know he's one of the best 1502 01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:13.640 at it. But Tony Hinchcliff is really great at itude 1503 01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:17.319 and that's his show, killed Tony. Okay, were there other 1504 01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:19.640 things you were gonna tell us about? So some other 1505 01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:22.520 hell stuff? You said that your own and you also 1506 01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:24.880 have a and I'm not pushing your

products here, but 1507 01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:26.840 I was given a gift of one of your products 1508 01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:29.159 and I haven't taken it before. And it's a blueprint 1509 01:10:29.439 --> 01:10:30.359 protein powder. 1510 01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:30.960 Yeah. 1511 01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:33.520 Is it a protein powder? Is it a daily powder? 1512 01:10:34.319 --> 01:10:35.000 What is it? Yeah? 1513 01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:35.399 Protein? 1514 01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:38.159 Okay, it's a protein powder. And a lot of times 1515 01:10:38.239 --> 01:10:39.800 you hear that supplements and stuff like that. A lot 1516 01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:41.600 of that stuff just comes out in your urine, Like 1517 01:10:42.199 --> 01:10:45.199 what makes this thing any different? Or is it any different? 1518 01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:45.720 Yeah? 1519 01:10:46.399 --> 01:10:48.560 So the the problem I was trying to solve is 1520 01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:51.720 I need to eat every day somehow, Yeah, and I 1521 01:10:51.800 --> 01:10:53.520 need a certain amount of protein, certain met a fat, 1522 01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:55.680 And so when I go out in the world, I'm like, 1523 01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:56.479 where am I gonna buy it? 1524 01:10:57.000 --> 01:10:58.439 Who do I trust? No one? 1525 01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:00.600 Yeah, okay, so I got to manufacture this. So basically, 1526 01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:03.920 like we put together. I eat everything my company makes 1527 01:11:04.199 --> 01:11:05.640 because I trust it. I I like, you know, I 1528 01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:08.199 worked as a in high school. I worked at a restaurant. 1529 01:11:08.359 --> 01:11:12.119 I was and I saw the back kitchen operations and 1530 01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:15.319 I was like, damn, I'm never eating at the restaurant 1531 01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:19.479 ever again. Right, Like, once you see it, it's it's horrifying. 1532 01:11:20.279 --> 01:11:20.479 Yeah. 1533 01:11:20.520 --> 01:11:22.520 Well, it's crazy when you think you at a restaurant 1534 01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:25.119 that you think that the people in the back are 1535 01:11:25.319 --> 01:11:29.439 doing their best. Ye A lot of times you're like, 1536 01:11:29.880 --> 01:11:31.960 you'll go eat and then I'll go work at a restaurant. 1537 01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:33.840 So it's like then I'm just the person in the back. 1538 01:11:33.960 --> 01:11:37.359 Yeah. And like the whole idea of like something it's 1539 01:11:37.399 --> 01:11:40.199 like competent things going on behind the scenes that like 1540 01:11:40.319 --> 01:11:42.479 you can trust like no, no breaks it. So yes, 1541 01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:45.359 like blueprint, I see exactly what happens. That's what I 1542 01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:47.640 want to eat. So yeah, protein I basically need like 1543 01:11:47.680 --> 01:11:49.319 one hundred and thirty grams a day, and so I 1544 01:11:49.399 --> 01:11:51.640 have to get it from somewhere. So yeah, we same thing, use, 1545

01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:54.640 we source it, We third party test it. You know, 1546 01:11:54.680 --> 01:11:57.119 we look at all the the nutrients and the chemicals 1547 01:11:57.119 --> 01:12:00.359 and the toxins. So yeah, so the protein is one 1548 01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:02.399 of the things we built and so and. 1549 01:12:02.399 --> 01:12:04.199 What kind of protein powder do you recommend? I take 1550 01:12:04.239 --> 01:12:06.560 a plant protein right now? That's kind of what I 1551 01:12:06.640 --> 01:12:10.560 feel like works best with my system. But what is 1552 01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:12.600 there a type of because you hear different ones and 1553 01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:14.640 new ones pop out and then there's like the one 1554 01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:15.920 you're supposed to take at night. 1555 01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:19.039 Like you, what has your experience been like with protein powder. 1556 01:12:19.079 --> 01:12:23.840 We've been using pea and hemp. We started using pumpkin and. 1557 01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:27.800 Oh pumpkin got somethings pump Yeah, yeah, so there's there's 1558 01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:31.079 it should be obvious pumpkin as muscles, dude, exactly. 1559 01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:33.840 You look at fucking flexing in in the field, right, 1560 01:12:35.359 --> 01:12:39.279 Who's who's it defined? Yeah? We yes, we did that, 1561 01:12:39.359 --> 01:12:42.199 but you know like p doesn't mix very well though, Yeah, 1562 01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:43.960 that's why. So that's why we do the hemp combo. 1563 01:12:44.159 --> 01:12:45.279 Okay, yeah, and it helps it. 1564 01:12:45.359 --> 01:12:47.439 It makes it fluffy and nice. 1565 01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:49.039 Because pea someoness. I'll get it in a smoothi or 1566 01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:50.960 something and you can't even drink it because it's not 1567 01:12:51.159 --> 01:12:52.000 the solution. 1568 01:12:52.199 --> 01:12:53.800 Is it liquid enough? 1569 01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:55.640 Yeah, So we do that. But people there's like this 1570 01:12:55.840 --> 01:12:59.279 online thing where people say that plant based proteins are 1571 01:12:59.359 --> 01:13:02.520 higher in heavy metals, right because there's you can test it. 1572 01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:04.960 The issue with that is that the whole heavy metal 1573 01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:07.880 discussion is so fucked up because we test all my foods. 1574 01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:10.119 You can go to the store and get a carrot 1575 01:13:10.960 --> 01:13:13.239 and test that for heavy metals. It's high and heavy metals. 1576 01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:17.319 And so the only reason why it's been sensational around 1577 01:13:17.359 --> 01:13:20.199 plant based proteins with toxins is because it's packaged food 1578 01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:23.199 you can easily measure, but it's harder to measure fresh food. 1579 01:13:23.199 --> 01:13:26.279 People don't do the work. So, like we've learned, toxins 1580 01:13:26.399 --> 01:13:29.960 are everywhere in all foods. And so for example, I'll 1581 01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:32.920 give you one where I was eating these lentils and 1582 01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:35.760 the test came back high, and so like why are 1583 01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:38.039 lentils high and heavy metals? Like, what's going on there? 1584 01:13:38.359 --> 01:13:40.159 So we got a hold of the company and we're like, 1585 01:13:40.279 --> 01:13:42.880 what's what's your manufacturing process? They said, actually, we use 1586 01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:48.319 human sludge as our fertilization. So they're taking like duty 1587 01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:50.880 or whatever. Yeah, they're taking they're taking human shit because 1588 01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:54.760 it's like a selling it. So if they're using human 1589 01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:57.159 shit to fertilize, and human shit has heavy metals in it, 1590 01:13:57.399 --> 01:14:00.359 so then recycles back into the to the food. And 1591 01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:02.680 so we've been this is this is why I make 1592 01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:05.319 this ship because I shouldn't say stuff. So we we 1593 01:14:05.399 --> 01:14:07.520 want to we want to source our own food, we 1594 01:14:07.600 --> 01:14:09.199 want to test it. I want to know what to 1595 01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:11.640 put in my body. And so, uh, we just I've 1596 01:14:11.720 --> 01:14:13.960 learned way too much. I'm like, I'm so jaded now. 1597 01:14:14.319 --> 01:14:16.560 So the lentils, they were using human shit on their 1598 01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:18.520 crops and it was getting into the lentils. 1599 01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:21.000 Well that's why, because otherwise, if you think about it, 1600 01:14:21.079 --> 01:14:25.239 you're like, what foods naturally have high levels of blank right, 1601 01:14:25.399 --> 01:14:28.079 or like cocoa has high levels of heavy metals, Like 1602 01:14:28.199 --> 01:14:30.279 it has a lot of high levels of cabium naturally, 1603 01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:33.279 But then people test that that I cured the brand rankings, 1604 01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:36.800 but then glyphile state can also be present. And so 1605 01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:40.159 we found that the brand had the lowest levels of cabium, 1606 01:14:40.399 --> 01:14:42.520 had the highest levels of gliphl sate by like ten x, 1607 01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:45.600 they had an oat filler, so it was in the oats. 1608 01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:47.800 And so this is the thing is like you once 1609 01:14:47.840 --> 01:14:51.520 you actually take a topic and you actually slice it 1610 01:14:51.640 --> 01:14:55.319 up to capture the nuance, it's just the conversation online 1611 01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:59.359 is almost never right. Like when the things that drand 1612 01:14:59.479 --> 01:15:02.840 that gain trendy popularity, it's almost always wrong. 1613 01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:04.680 And when you said that, some of it almost as 1614 01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:08.279 negligible then because at a certain

point, just overall, we 1615 01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:11.439 are in a very tough spot with with what is 1616 01:15:11.479 --> 01:15:12.600 in our foods, no matter one. 1617 01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:15.319 Like that's what I'm saying, Like it is, I don't 1618 01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:18.159 people are gonna feel stressed about those conversations. I want 1619 01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:19.800 to like make sure we close. I want to agree, 1620 01:15:19.920 --> 01:15:21.239 I want to I want to give like a few 1621 01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:24.279 tips where people can regain control of their life. Okay, 1622 01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:26.239 because I don't want to terrify. I know it's terrifying. 1623 01:15:26.479 --> 01:15:28.000 Well, one of the things that I even I think 1624 01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:30.640 you've already done is that's why you're saying, like, Okay, 1625 01:15:31.159 --> 01:15:33.319 you may have this diet. If you have an olive 1626 01:15:33.439 --> 01:15:35.960 olive oil that you take when you're eating that it 1627 01:15:36.039 --> 01:15:38.880 will lessen the effects of your diet on your system 1628 01:15:38.920 --> 01:15:41.000 at the time. So and those are the types of 1629 01:15:41.079 --> 01:15:43.359 things that are are kind of important. It's like, okay, well, 1630 01:15:43.399 --> 01:15:45.359 I know that even if some stuff I know is 1631 01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:48.000 going to be not great for me, how do I 1632 01:15:48.359 --> 01:15:50.920 at least just mitigate what's going on right while our 1633 01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:56.560 science hopefully gets you know, uncompromised, while our food system 1634 01:15:56.560 --> 01:15:58.640 hopefully gets uncompromised and we're able to get back into 1635 01:15:58.680 --> 01:16:01.439 a better place. But you were saying, there are some 1636 01:16:01.560 --> 01:16:02.159 things you want them. 1637 01:16:02.119 --> 01:16:02.520 To take away. 1638 01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:07.840 Yeah, okay, cool. So here's like, in short, this list 1639 01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:11.920 of things will hopefully help people feel empowered and not anxious. 1640 01:16:12.600 --> 01:16:14.960 So yes, there's like all kinds of shit to be 1641 01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:17.399 aware of, but if you focus on these things. So 1642 01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:19.800 one is I've learned out of all the things I've 1643 01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:23.319 measured out, I literally have like billions of data points 1644 01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:25.560 on my body over the past five years. If you 1645 01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:28.279 distill that and say how many are useful signal probably 1646 01:16:28.279 --> 01:16:30.560 a few hundred million. But the largest data set in 1647 01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:34.520 human history. The thing I care about the most is 1648 01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:38.359 what is my heart rate before bed? It is like 1649 01:16:38.439 --> 01:16:41.439 the most useful biomarker, and it's so easy because its free. 1650 01:16:41.880 --> 01:16:43.199 So if you have a wearable, you can just pull 1651 01:16:43.239 --> 01:16:45.079 up your phone see if you're with your market. So 1652 01:16:45.159 --> 01:16:48.439 you lay it on your bed, take a few deep breaths, 1653 01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:50.840 and you calm yourself down and then you see a number. 1654 01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:53.520 Let's say it's like fifty five beats a minute or sixty. 1655 01:16:54.319 --> 01:16:56.600 Your goal in life now is to lower your heart rate. 1656 01:16:56.920 --> 01:16:58.520 So you say you start off at sixty, in a 1657 01:16:58.560 --> 01:17:00.640 month from now, be at fifty five. And so the 1658 01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:03.439 way you do that one is you have your final 1659 01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:06.960 meal of the day four hours before bed. Yeah I know, 1660 01:17:07.079 --> 01:17:07.680 I know, I hear you. 1661 01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:08.840 And no snacks. 1662 01:17:09.960 --> 01:17:12.000 No, it's not, no food. So if your bedtime to ten, 1663 01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:15.640 at six pm, you're done. It's a great chart. So 1664 01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:19.000 these are the things. So when you increase your heart 1665 01:17:19.039 --> 01:17:22.520 rate before bed, it wrecks your sleep. Yes, when you 1666 01:17:22.600 --> 01:17:26.960 don't sleep well, your willpower falls off a cliff. So 1667 01:17:27.319 --> 01:17:30.520 the next morning, when you're trying to decide to eat 1668 01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:32.960 the croissant or the donut for breakfast or not, if 1669 01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:35.760 you haven't slept well, you're like ninety percent more likely 1670 01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:38.640 to eat the donut or the carssant. If you slept well, 1671 01:17:39.199 --> 01:17:40.760 you have a little juice in the system. You're like, 1672 01:17:40.840 --> 01:17:42.479 you know what, No, it's not good for me, and 1673 01:17:42.560 --> 01:17:45.880 I'll be an exercise, which then also increases your willpower. 1674 01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:49.239 So you get this really positive loop. So it all 1675 01:17:49.439 --> 01:17:53.399 starts to sleep, and sleep is determined by your heart rate. 1676 01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:56.960 So for example, like so four hours for bed, that 1677 01:17:57.119 --> 01:17:59.159 is going to lower. So when you have that distance, 1678 01:17:59.720 --> 01:18:03.159 it'll allows your body to digest the food. It allows 1679 01:18:03.199 --> 01:18:04.840 your body to say, I'm going to get ready for bed, 1680 01:18:04.960 --> 01:18:09.079 so it lowers your body temperature, lowers cortisol, increases melatonin, 1681 01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:11.079 so your body is in a much better state to 1682 01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:13.439 go to sleep and stay in deep sleep. The second 1683 01:18:13.520 --> 01:18:17.119 thing is your phone needs to be off an hour 1684 01:18:17.199 --> 01:18:21.279 before bed. You can't be in bed scrolling, working, texting. 1685 01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:24.399 You need this

separation because your body the phone in 1686 01:18:24.479 --> 01:18:28.640 hand is going to increase your cortisol, increase your sympathetic activation, 1687 01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:31.000 You'll be more anxious, and so you need an hour 1688 01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:33.720 of separation instead of the phone. Go for a walk, 1689 01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:37.039 talk to a friend, hang out like breathwork, meditation, read 1690 01:18:37.079 --> 01:18:39.399 a book like anything, but be on your phone that 1691 01:18:39.479 --> 01:18:42.239 will lower your heart rate. And there's other small things 1692 01:18:42.399 --> 01:18:46.760 like I do this nighttime discussion where I go to 1693 01:18:46.760 --> 01:18:49.520 a bed at eight thirty at seven thirty pm evening, 1694 01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:52.520 or sleep Brian comes out on duty and sleep Brian 1695 01:18:52.600 --> 01:18:55.319 is a version of me that defends my sleep. And 1696 01:18:55.439 --> 01:18:59.239 so all the Brian's line up, so Ambitious Brian lines up. 1697 01:18:59.279 --> 01:19:02.000 He's always the first one, and he's like, I got 1698 01:19:02.119 --> 01:19:04.720 a fucking banger idea, right, a brand new thing we're 1699 01:19:04.760 --> 01:19:08.680 gonna do and sleep Brian says, we see you, Ambitious Brian, like, 1700 01:19:08.760 --> 01:19:12.039 we're doing a good job in life, keep out of man. Also, 1701 01:19:12.560 --> 01:19:14.359 we're getting ready for bed, so we're gonna write down 1702 01:19:14.359 --> 01:19:16.640 your idea and then tomorrow we'll come back to it. 1703 01:19:16.920 --> 01:19:19.319 And Ambitious Brian's like, are you sure? And sleep Brian's 1704 01:19:19.319 --> 01:19:21.279 like yeah, yeah, we got you. So then he walk 1705 01:19:21.319 --> 01:19:23.600 goes away. Then Anxious Brian shows up and he's like, yo, 1706 01:19:23.760 --> 01:19:26.600 today when you're a theo, you said that thing and 1707 01:19:26.680 --> 01:19:28.920 you were a jackass to him, right, It's like, oh, 1708 01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:32.319 thank you, Anxious Brian, great self awareness, appreciate you. We're 1709 01:19:32.319 --> 01:19:33.960 gonna write that down we're gonna hit THEO up tomorrow. 1710 01:19:34.039 --> 01:19:36.039 Make sure we're all good. And they like all the 1711 01:19:36.079 --> 01:19:39.560 Brian's ligned up, and so you know this sleeping Brian 1712 01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:45.000 ever show up. He's like, hey, stay up all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude, 1713 01:19:45.119 --> 01:19:47.479 this Brian is freaking leave me alone, Brian. 1714 01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:47.800 Yeah. 1715 01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:49.640 And so you'll see this like whether you do this 1716 01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:53.439 or something else. The way this manifests is if you 1717 01:19:53.600 --> 01:19:56.119 don't do this, you put your head on the pillow 1718 01:19:56.760 --> 01:19:59.319 and then you loop right like you have these thoughts 1719 01:19:59.359 --> 01:20:02.000 and just like go, go and go into the same 1720 01:20:02.079 --> 01:20:05.079 thoughts and then you finally fall asleep. You wake up 1721 01:20:05.119 --> 01:20:08.119 three hours later that they are again looping, and so 1722 01:20:08.359 --> 01:20:10.840 they cause your heart rate to go up, which causes 1723 01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:13.800 your sleep go down, which crashes your willpower, which crashes 1724 01:20:13.840 --> 01:20:18.159 everything else. So by doing this like internal harvesting, like 1725 01:20:18.159 --> 01:20:21.199 you're trying to clean up, you're lowering your heart rate, 1726 01:20:21.359 --> 01:20:24.159 you're settling yourself down, you're getting to some point of reconciliation. 1727 01:20:24.680 --> 01:20:27.399 So now you've not eaten for four hours, you've got 1728 01:20:27.439 --> 01:20:30.760 off your phone, and you've got some kind of internal balance. 1729 01:20:31.880 --> 01:20:34.239 Now you're ready to think, I can put my head 1730 01:20:34.239 --> 01:20:36.880 on the pillow and have a decent shot at a 1731 01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:39.960 banger night sleep, and so basically built my entire life 1732 01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:42.600 around sleep. Now, if you focus on that, it's just 1733 01:20:42.720 --> 01:20:47.079 like so much of life is just not doing bad shit. 1734 01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:51.359 It's like what we talked about before of like whether 1735 01:20:51.399 --> 01:20:54.840 you're happy or not in life is how much you're 1736 01:20:54.920 --> 01:20:59.199 doing which you actually don't want to do. Yeah, and 1737 01:20:59.279 --> 01:21:01.199 then like all the other like all these little things 1738 01:21:01.199 --> 01:21:02.800 about this and that, like don't worry about it yet. 1739 01:21:03.119 --> 01:21:06.000 Just get sleep in place. Get these basic habits in place. 1740 01:21:06.079 --> 01:21:08.199 You're sleeping gonna make you feel great. And once you 1741 01:21:08.279 --> 01:21:10.920 get that in a steady place, you can start layering 1742 01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:14.159 on good habits. But if you take on too many things, 1743 01:21:14.279 --> 01:21:17.039 you'll feel overwhelmed. Yeah, So I get that in place. 1744 01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:21.279 That's like the winner, dude. It's like there's nothing better 1745 01:21:23.399 --> 01:21:26.800 than when you like, I'm going to sleep, man. 1746 01:21:26.840 --> 01:21:28.920 Ill and what do you say? 1747 01:21:28.960 --> 01:21:29.560 How's your sleep? 1748 01:21:29.800 --> 01:21:31.560 My sleep's okay, it's not that great. 1749 01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:33.560 A lot of times that stay up editing, but it's 1750 01:21:34.039 --> 01:21:36.680 But I also have gotten trapped into a late pattern. 1751 01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:38.600 So it's like I could get up earlier. It's just 1752 01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:41.000 like I have to line it up earlier. I could 1753 01:21:41.039 --> 01:21:44.560 get up earlier, get get rid of like the working out, 1754 01:21:44.600 --> 01:21:48.960 the

meditation. You know, I'll do like some zoom like recovery, 1755 01:21:49.039 --> 01:21:52.840 meeting stuff and u and then all that's out of 1756 01:21:52.920 --> 01:21:56.319 my head and now the rest of my day feels more. 1757 01:21:56.520 --> 01:21:59.319 It feels easier no matter what I'm doing, as opposed 1758 01:21:59.359 --> 01:22:01.439 to these things being later in the day and that 1759 01:22:01.520 --> 01:22:03.680 I still have to do them. That's one of the 1760 01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:07.279 biggest traps I set myself up up for is procrastinating 1761 01:22:07.359 --> 01:22:09.520 like the toughest things right out of the gate, and 1762 01:22:09.600 --> 01:22:11.279 they even get easier over time. 1763 01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:12.560 Yeah, that's right. 1764 01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:14.439 But like today, I got off by sauna. 1765 01:22:14.479 --> 01:22:15.880 I do sauna a lot. That is one thing that 1766 01:22:15.920 --> 01:22:21.119 I like doing. It just makes me feel activated. And 1767 01:22:21.279 --> 01:22:23.079 not everybody can have a sauna at home, you know. 1768 01:22:23.119 --> 01:22:24.800 I don't have like a very fancy when there's a 1769 01:22:24.840 --> 01:22:28.520 lot of different affordable ones actually, but that's something that 1770 01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:31.039 I notice has helped me a lot. 1771 01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:34.479 Are you icing your boys in the sauna? Am I 1772 01:22:34.600 --> 01:22:37.880 sing my body, your boys, my nuts? Yeah, it's a 1773 01:22:37.920 --> 01:22:38.359 good idea. 1774 01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:40.600 You ice them in the sauna? Yeah? Whoa, whoa, what 1775 01:22:40.680 --> 01:22:41.039 do you mean? 1776 01:22:41.159 --> 01:22:45.760 Yeah? Yeah, So we did an experiment so when the 1777 01:22:46.039 --> 01:22:50.479 testicles get warm, it has all these negative consequences like, 1778 01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:55.520 oh it it destroys your fertility markers and so yep, 1779 01:22:55.600 --> 01:22:57.359 so what you want. What you can do is on Amazon, 1780 01:22:57.479 --> 01:23:01.359 you can buy like eight dollars ice packs. They're BPA free, 1781 01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:05.119 non toxic. Put them in the freezer, and then just 1782 01:23:05.159 --> 01:23:07.680 slide them underneath your cotton you still wear cotton underwear 1783 01:23:07.880 --> 01:23:10.720 and caught shorts. Put them in between the underwear and 1784 01:23:10.760 --> 01:23:12.880 the shorts and just have them there for the entire 1785 01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:15.640 session of the sauna session. But we did this. I 1786 01:23:16.159 --> 01:23:21.199 did the most measured sauna experiment in history. We measured 1787 01:23:21.239 --> 01:23:23.520 like two hundred and fifty Buyo markers, and we did 1788 01:23:23.880 --> 01:23:26.800 ice on my chestles and we took it off and 1789 01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:29.279 an annihilated of my fertility markers. Now a lot of 1790 01:23:29.319 --> 01:23:31.119 people will say, like, I don't care about that because 1791 01:23:31.119 --> 01:23:32.800 I'm not trying to get pregnant or whatever. But it 1792 01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:35.079 has a whole bunch of negative feedback loop, Like it's 1793 01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:37.319 a negativeeel. You don't want to annihilate them. You want 1794 01:23:37.479 --> 01:23:39.319 good fertilion markers even if you're trying to. 1795 01:23:39.279 --> 01:23:41.079 Have a baby. Hey, you want your brain to feel 1796 01:23:41.159 --> 01:23:43.640 like you're pot Like just a lot read a roll. 1797 01:23:43.760 --> 01:23:45.560 Yeah, if your brain starts feeling like, oh, these nuts 1798 01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:47.319 are useless or whatever, your brains like them, what am 1799 01:23:47.319 --> 01:23:47.960 I sticking around for? 1800 01:23:48.079 --> 01:23:49.720 Yeah? Yeah, what's my Yeah, my job exactly. 1801 01:23:49.920 --> 01:23:51.800 Dang dude, Now what if you just pour a little 1802 01:23:51.800 --> 01:23:53.560 bit of cold water on your nuts every now and then? 1803 01:23:53.720 --> 01:23:54.920 Is that you think that'd be? Okay? 1804 01:23:55.199 --> 01:23:56.760 I mean you could, but you got to keep the 1805 01:23:56.840 --> 01:23:59.199 water cold. It's got to be make sure you keep 1806 01:23:59.239 --> 01:24:02.319 the temperature. Would you get temptare low? Like whatever, whatever 1807 01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:04.560 you do, and then after you do it, you know, 1808 01:24:04.920 --> 01:24:08.239 just clean it with like hydrot peroxide or something, you know, 1809 01:24:08.399 --> 01:24:10.279 so you and then put it back in the freezer. 1810 01:24:10.319 --> 01:24:13.520 But yeah, I know it's like it's uncomfortable to do 1811 01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:15.399 it socially, Like you go out to like a public 1812 01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:17.960 place and it's like, who's the weird person putting, you know, 1813 01:24:18.039 --> 01:24:20.159 the ice pack on their balls? You know, but like 1814 01:24:20.279 --> 01:24:24.119 it legit is. It's good science and it's a good practice. 1815 01:24:24.279 --> 01:24:25.039 So keeping them cool. 1816 01:24:25.079 --> 01:24:26.479 Even if you had to go to the water to 1817 01:24:26.600 --> 01:24:29.079 go to the ice machine, get your little sack ice 1818 01:24:29.119 --> 01:24:29.920 and just set them on there. 1819 01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:31.600 While you're in there, work anything you can do to 1820 01:24:31.720 --> 01:24:33.560 keep your your ice. Yah, Tescottle cold. 1821 01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:35.359 Wow, is this sauna? 1822 01:24:35.439 --> 01:24:37.399 Is there a certain type of sauna that you really 1823 01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:40.920 recommend or something that works differently? There's ones now, like 1824 01:24:41.079 --> 01:24:43.560 actually was thinking about getting like an infrared panel put 1825 01:24:43.640 --> 01:24:45.680 into my sauna. Do you find that there's any help 1826 01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:47.319 with that sort of thing? I know that's kind of 1827

01:24:47.359 --> 01:24:48.239 two different questions. 1828 01:24:48.359 --> 01:24:48.560 Yeah. 1829 01:24:48.800 --> 01:24:53.119 The the best evidence is with a dry sauna, and 1830 01:24:53.319 --> 01:24:57.359 so there's wet dry and infrared and wet. The problem 1831 01:24:57.520 --> 01:25:00.600 is it heats up your skin faster than you're core temperature. 1832 01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:03.239 You try to get your core temperature up so dry 1833 01:25:03.359 --> 01:25:05.920 so on it in an infrared rarely hits the temperature 1834 01:25:05.960 --> 01:25:08.960 levels you want. So the best evidence is you want 1835 01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:11.479 to be between one hundred and seventy four fahrenheit two 1836 01:25:11.560 --> 01:25:15.279 hundred and twelve fahrenheit. Oh my god, that's that's your window, 1837 01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:17.840 and then you want to so what So what we're 1838 01:25:17.880 --> 01:25:21.039 doing now is one of the primary benefits of the 1839 01:25:21.119 --> 01:25:24.000 sauna is when you go in there your core body temperature, 1840 01:25:24.039 --> 01:25:26.079 when it gets to about one hundred and two degrees fahrenheit, 1841 01:25:26.600 --> 01:25:29.840 it triggers the release of heat shock proteins. So these 1842 01:25:29.880 --> 01:25:34.000 are like little machines, protein machines that get spun up 1843 01:25:34.199 --> 01:25:36.880 and they go around and fix it. They fix broken proteins, 1844 01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:40.359 miss philaprodions. Yeah, like they're like flooding your body, doing 1845 01:25:40.439 --> 01:25:43.439 good stuff, but it only gets triggered when your core 1846 01:25:43.479 --> 01:25:45.880 body temperature hits a certain level and so if you're 1847 01:25:46.079 --> 01:25:49.079 not hot enough to sauna sore. But they're very hard 1848 01:25:49.119 --> 01:25:51.640 to measure. So we're currently setting up a lab, a 1849 01:25:51.680 --> 01:25:53.880 wet lab in my house. We can measure this. We're 1850 01:25:53.880 --> 01:25:56.199 going to try to measure my heat shock protein release 1851 01:25:56.880 --> 01:26:00.479 on various temperatures, various durations. So what we've been looking 1852 01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:03.600 because I've been doing core temperature out of my ear lately, 1853 01:26:03.760 --> 01:26:07.760 but you can't. The gold standard measurement is rectal. But 1854 01:26:07.880 --> 01:26:09.560 you've got to do that. You've got to like be 1855 01:26:09.880 --> 01:26:13.439 inside the ass for two to three minutes with a 1856 01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:14.159 long probe. 1857 01:26:16.399 --> 01:26:17.199 That's farm work. 1858 01:26:18.600 --> 01:26:20.680 Yeah, so I'm struggling with that one. Like I do, 1859 01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:22.720 I do, I do a lot of stuff, But like man, 1860 01:26:22.800 --> 01:26:24.720 I was like, guys, can we find an alternative way 1861 01:26:24.760 --> 01:26:27.000 of doing this? So we're gonna do blood. We're going 1862 01:26:27.039 --> 01:26:29.520

to measure heat shock protein released because that's like the good, 1863 01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:32.600 goodie stuff. But yeah, yeah, basically try sauna somewhere between 1864 01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:34.000 one hundred and twenty four and to twelve fair and 1865 01:26:34.079 --> 01:26:37.840 hype for twenty minutes is like a good starting point. 1866 01:26:38.279 --> 01:26:40.920 And then ice on the boys. 1867 01:26:41.319 --> 01:26:43.560 I send them boys while you're in there, and you 1868 01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:45.239 want to stay in that sauna for you said for 1869 01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:48.079 fifteen to twenty minutes at above one hundred and seventy degrees. 1870 01:26:48.319 --> 01:26:50.800 Yeah, that's like a good approximation. That's where the evidence 1871 01:26:50.920 --> 01:26:53.560 is of like if you're in that range, you're getting 1872 01:26:53.600 --> 01:26:56.880 some benefit. I'm trying to go for like max max benefit, 1873 01:26:57.000 --> 01:26:58.800 but like if you're in that temperature range for that 1874 01:26:58.880 --> 01:27:00.880 duration of time, good benefit. Wow. 1875 01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:02.920 That's fascinating, dude. 1876 01:27:04.479 --> 01:27:07.079 Yeah, because and my my stepsister just got me a 1877 01:27:07.159 --> 01:27:09.600 sauna hat to wearing the sauna too, So. 1878 01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:11.560 Let's go yet to the heat will dry out your scalp. 1879 01:27:11.720 --> 01:27:13.800 Yeah, yeah, it just seems kind of nice too, if 1880 01:27:14.119 --> 01:27:15.239 you know, it's nice to have a little bit of 1881 01:27:15.279 --> 01:27:16.920 like a fashion accouterment into there. 1882 01:27:16.800 --> 01:27:19.359 Kind of it's made of hemp hemp material. 1883 01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:20.920 Yeah, probably something like that. Yeah. 1884 01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:22.680 One thing, we're trying to make an underwear that's just 1885 01:27:22.760 --> 01:27:24.960 all cotton, right, and it's American cotton. One of the 1886 01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:28.239 things I noticed too on underwear, the night band, sometimes 1887 01:27:28.279 --> 01:27:30.439 the waistband. It's too taugh and it makes you a 1888 01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:31.039 peel all night. 1889 01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:31.319 Yeah. 1890 01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:33.479 Yeah, so it's like you gotta wake up an extra 1891 01:27:33.640 --> 01:27:35.640 time or sometimes two, Like if I wear some of 1892 01:27:35.720 --> 01:27:38.520 these ones that are really constricting, I'm like, yeah, so 1893 01:27:38.840 --> 01:27:40.239 I don't know. I've just been trying to think about 1894 01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:43.880 making a decent pair of ball of breeches. Bruh, something 1895 01:27:43.920 --> 01:27:44.720 to hide your cock. 1896 01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:47.399 Why you're sleeping? 1897 01:27:47.800 --> 01:27:48.159 I hear you. 1898 01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:53.840 Yeah, dude, it's crazy. I saw that you and viral 1899 01:27:53.960 --> 01:27:58.159 not logo for posting. It

was like a nighttime erection data. 1900 01:27:58.840 --> 01:28:01.199 Take me down at h take me down at Wiener 1901 01:28:01.319 --> 01:28:03.680 Road for a secon. Yeah, Brian, what do you what 1902 01:28:03.960 --> 01:28:06.279 do you see your nighttime erection data from my nineteen 1903 01:28:06.319 --> 01:28:07.000 year old son? 1904 01:28:07.880 --> 01:28:08.079 Yeah? 1905 01:28:08.119 --> 01:28:09.760 And this is definitely I mean, that's one way to 1906 01:28:09.880 --> 01:28:16.079 build up as bonding as bonding, dude. Nighttime erection data 1907 01:28:16.079 --> 01:28:18.920 for my nine year old son, uh town was Johnson 1908 01:28:19.079 --> 01:28:22.560 and me. His duration is two minutes longer than mine. 1909 01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:23.560 Wow. Yeah. 1910 01:28:24.039 --> 01:28:27.720 Uh raise children to stand tall, be firm, and be upright. 1911 01:28:27.840 --> 01:28:30.199 That's hilarious. Yeah, I notice you and your son, do you? 1912 01:28:30.399 --> 01:28:32.119 He gets involved in a lot of this, right. 1913 01:28:32.079 --> 01:28:35.600 Yeah, he's so cool. He's such a cool cat. He Uh, 1914 01:28:35.640 --> 01:28:39.039 he's my second child, and he and I are just 1915 01:28:39.119 --> 01:28:43.760 best friends. We roll and man like where like we're 1916 01:28:43.840 --> 01:28:47.680 just twins. Like we just like you know with Kate Man. 1917 01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:50.960 I love this kid so much. We have so much 1918 01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:51.479 fun together. 1919 01:28:51.800 --> 01:28:53.840 Yeap, what makes him so specialty? I mean, it's your son, 1920 01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:58.039 so that's one thing. He there, he is, I mean 1921 01:28:58.239 --> 01:28:58.760 that's cool. 1922 01:28:59.640 --> 01:29:00.640 He's in shape. Huh. 1923 01:29:01.479 --> 01:29:03.680 Who who would do this with their dad? 1924 01:29:04.680 --> 01:29:05.720 It's a good dude. 1925 01:29:05.760 --> 01:29:12.199 That's actually the perfect answer. Maybe Voldemort's son or whatever. Yeah, 1926 01:29:12.359 --> 01:29:15.239 I'm just I'm just jing tow is no, but no, 1927 01:29:15.399 --> 01:29:17.720 you're right, who would be like, yeah, who would do 1928 01:29:17.800 --> 01:29:18.600 anything with their dad? 1929 01:29:19.039 --> 01:29:21.920 Look at like the lower left, he's I have my 1930 01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:24.119 shirt off. Yeah, he's hugging me like we're doing a 1931 01:29:24.199 --> 01:29:28.520 shirtless skin to skin photo shoot? Like what father son does? 1932 01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:30.000 That seems pretty tribal. 1933 01:29:30.760 --> 01:29:33.039 Yeah, I mean he's he's he's like and so like 1934 01:29:33.159 --> 01:29:35.640 we're there. We did the blood travel so he gave 1935 01:29:35.720 --> 01:29:38.119 me his plasma. I gave my dad my plasma. We 1936 01:29:38.199 --> 01:29:40.840 did like a tryenericial thing and is that was there 1937 01:29:40.880 --> 01:29:43.640 any helpful stuff? In that. Yeah, so my this the 1938 01:29:43.800 --> 01:29:45.640 organ behind that is. My dad called me in a 1939 01:29:45.760 --> 01:29:49.119 panic and he said, like, I he's I just wrote 1940 01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:52.399 this thing for work. I stepped away from my desk, 1941 01:29:52.560 --> 01:29:55.760 came back to it. It was gibberish. He's like, I'm 1942 01:29:56.319 --> 01:29:59.479 I'm freaking out. And so that day my team and 1943 01:29:59.520 --> 01:30:02.159 I had a ca all about plasma exchanges, like the 1944 01:30:02.239 --> 01:30:04.319 idea of you like there was a study where a 1945 01:30:04.640 --> 01:30:06.800 old mouse and a young mouse were sewed together and 1946 01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:10.119 they shared a circulatory system. The old mouse got young 1947 01:30:10.159 --> 01:30:13.279 thee yeah, like they shared a system. That's kind of 1948 01:30:13.319 --> 01:30:15.239 a shit experience, a shitty mouse, right, like to be 1949 01:30:15.319 --> 01:30:17.880 that mouse in that experiment, but the old mouse got younger. 1950 01:30:18.840 --> 01:30:21.439 And so there was this idea like what's happening, right, 1951 01:30:21.600 --> 01:30:25.760 could you replicate the results there by taking plasma that 1952 01:30:25.920 --> 01:30:28.880 is youthful and given to someone that is older. And 1953 01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:31.479 so my eyes like, dad, if you want to do this, 1954 01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:34.720 I'm happy to give you my plasma, like you know, 1955 01:30:34.960 --> 01:30:36.279 because there were some studies being shaped. 1956 01:30:36.319 --> 01:30:37.880 Yeah, and the siphoned Talmage and. 1957 01:30:40.199 --> 01:30:42.960 So he heard he heard me Talmadge heard is talking 1958 01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:45.840 about it. He's like, hey, like, if you want me 1959 01:30:45.920 --> 01:30:47.720 in like I'm I'm happy to be in I'm like you, guys, 1960 01:30:48.039 --> 01:30:50.359 this is perfect. That try generational plasma exchange. 1961 01:30:50.640 --> 01:30:52.079 That shit's dope, dude. 1962 01:30:52.199 --> 01:30:54.840 Yeah, so we did it, and he's interesting. My dad 1963 01:30:55.560 --> 01:30:57.800 his speed of aging, it's like there's a clock inside 1964 01:30:57.840 --> 01:30:59.479 your body of how fast and how slow you're aging. 1965 01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:02.439 His speed of aging dropped by the equivalent of twenty 1966 01:31:02.560 --> 01:31:06.560 five years, so his body had a traumatic reduction of 1967 01:31:06.680 --> 01:31:08.720 how fast it was aging from getting my plasma. 1968 01:31:09.520 --> 01:31:10.760 How are you able to quantify that? 1969 01:31:11.239 --> 01:31:14.239 U looking at something called DNA methylation, so by your 1970 01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:17.800 body basically has these chemical signatures of like what does 1971 01:31:17.840 --> 01:31:19.560 your body look like a thirteen year old, a twenty 1972 01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:21.119 year old, a forty five year old. It's like an 1973 01:31:21.119 --> 01:31:23.880 emergent science. So what

it's like metadata almost, yeah, exactly, 1974 01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:26.159 and so like it's a new area of science. It's 1975 01:31:26.199 --> 01:31:28.439 still emerging. It's not yet gold standard, so like you know, 1976 01:31:28.680 --> 01:31:32.359 it's not like the like bloodwork as a gold standard marker. 1977 01:31:32.399 --> 01:31:36.359 But this is cool, and so yeah, my dad's metadata 1978 01:31:36.920 --> 01:31:40.640 changed dramatically. My biomarkers didn't. So when when my son 1979 01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:43.520 Talmage gave me his plasma, my bio markers did not change, 1980 01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:47.359 which makes sense because my biomarkers are already like his, 1981 01:31:47.680 --> 01:31:50.199 we're already of comparable health. But my dads are not 1982 01:31:50.279 --> 01:31:53.279 as good as mine. So yeah, that was the behind that. 1983 01:31:53.399 --> 01:31:55.640 So like my son, yeah, like he that's cool. Yeah, 1984 01:31:55.680 --> 01:31:58.079 but like he's he's he's a yes and guy. 1985 01:31:58.840 --> 01:31:59.399 Oh nice. 1986 01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:02.159 So like anything I say, anything I do is always 1987 01:32:02.159 --> 01:32:04.239 like dad, Yeah, And you know, like when I did 1988 01:32:04.319 --> 01:32:07.119 the livestream mushrooms, He's like, I'm in and I want 1989 01:32:07.159 --> 01:32:08.640 to hang out with you, and so he's just like 1990 01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:09.960 he's such a cool dude. 1991 01:32:10.840 --> 01:32:13.399 I want to talk about the mushroom stuff. But take 1992 01:32:13.479 --> 01:32:14.600 me back to the erections. 1993 01:32:14.840 --> 01:32:18.039 Uh what? And that's the only time I'll ever say that. 1994 01:32:18.119 --> 01:32:24.760 Probably it's like the time you were gay. Everyone's a 1995 01:32:24.760 --> 01:32:25.359 little gay for. 1996 01:32:25.439 --> 01:32:27.960 One, Oh dude, people's all a little bit gay. Bro, 1997 01:32:28.079 --> 01:32:31.359 you fucking tickle anybody. If you tickle somebody hard enough 1998 01:32:31.399 --> 01:32:35.439 to admit it. What did you notice about erections? 1999 01:32:35.520 --> 01:32:35.680 Yeah? 2000 01:32:35.680 --> 01:32:37.159 What did you guys find out here? Because you and 2001 01:32:37.239 --> 01:32:39.960 your son both took this, is it a test? What 2002 01:32:40.039 --> 01:32:41.159 do you guys do to study it? 2003 01:32:41.439 --> 01:32:45.279 Yeah? So the idea behind this is how do you 2004 01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:48.520 tell if somebody is in good health? You can like 2005 01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:50.239 look you can look at them. It's like, what is 2006 01:32:50.319 --> 01:32:52.520 the skin quality? Like, what are their muscles? Are they 2007 01:32:52.560 --> 01:32:57.000 aerobically fit. It turns out that nighttime erections for men 2008 01:32:57.640 --> 01:33:01.279 is a major marker for health, and that if a 2009 01:33:01.399 --> 01:33:03.760 man is not having erections at night when he's asleep, 2010 01:33:04.560 --> 01:33:08.159 it's representative of much larger problems in the body. But 2011 01:33:08.640 --> 01:33:11.279 before we did this, nobody talked about this idea. But 2012 01:33:11.439 --> 01:33:14.520 every night you go to bed, uh, your body goes 2013 01:33:14.560 --> 01:33:17.640 to a natural process of erection cycles. So men have 2014 01:33:17.800 --> 01:33:21.520 between three and five erections every single night. It's not sexual. 2015 01:33:21.880 --> 01:33:25.079 Your body is just like pulsing the system. Females have 2016 01:33:25.119 --> 01:33:28.319 the same thing, So females also have these arousal cycles. 2017 01:33:28.359 --> 01:33:30.319 There are clitarter us and gorges of they, you know, 2018 01:33:30.439 --> 01:33:33.840 so you can we can measure a man's erections. So 2019 01:33:33.920 --> 01:33:35.680 do we have this little device you put on the 2020 01:33:35.720 --> 01:33:37.800 base of the penis and you go to sleep. You 2021 01:33:37.880 --> 01:33:39.479 think it's annoying, but it's actually fine. You don't even 2022 01:33:39.520 --> 01:33:41.199 feel it, and you wake up in the morning and 2023 01:33:41.279 --> 01:33:43.319 it gives you a readout how many erections you had, 2024 01:33:43.840 --> 01:33:46.399 how long they were, and then the strength the erections 2025 01:33:46.840 --> 01:33:49.680 and what it's basically doing. Is it's telling you the 2026 01:33:49.880 --> 01:33:53.720 health of your cardiovascular system, your psychological health, and your 2027 01:33:53.760 --> 01:33:57.319 physiological health. So if you if your dick is broken, 2028 01:33:58.199 --> 01:34:00.520 something else is broken about you. And you can also 2029 01:34:00.600 --> 01:34:03.319 use it as age marker because as you age, like 2030 01:34:03.479 --> 01:34:05.720 a healthy eighteen year old will have something like two 2031 01:34:05.760 --> 01:34:09.239 and a half hours of nighttime erections, and by the 2032 01:34:09.319 --> 01:34:11.319 time you get to seventy years old, it's down to 2033 01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:14.319 like fifty one minutes, So it declines with age. POPA 2034 01:34:14.319 --> 01:34:18.119 still rock in there, Yeah, so mine are my best 2035 01:34:18.319 --> 01:34:21.960 is like three hours and fifty two minutes. Yeah, so 2036 01:34:22.159 --> 01:34:26.079 I'm at the ninety nine point nine percentile for night 2037 01:34:26.079 --> 01:34:28.119 time directions. And this is a cool marker because like 2038 01:34:28.239 --> 01:34:30.920 people can look at me and say, like, bro, you 2039 01:34:31.119 --> 01:34:33.479 still look forty eight. I don't think any of your 2040 01:34:33.479 --> 01:34:37.640 shit's working. And the way to counteract that is when 2041 01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:40.640 you go to bed, your body just doesn't Like I 2042 01:34:40.800 --> 01:34:42.399 can't change if I have erections that I don't know, 2043 01:34:42.439 --> 01:34:44.960 I can't think about having sex like your body just 2044 01:34:45.000 -->

01:34:47.279 does it. So it basically is a question of, like, 2045 01:34:47.439 --> 01:34:51.920 my body is behaving like an eighteen year old better 2046 01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:53.760 than an average eighteen year old. Yeah, And so that's 2047 01:34:53.840 --> 01:34:56.640 like a good marker of like is my stuff working 2048 01:34:56.760 --> 01:34:59.600 or not? Yeah, like so that's all this whole I 2049 01:34:59.600 --> 01:35:01.279 do is. Actually I was teaching my son, like I 2050 01:35:01.399 --> 01:35:03.520 was like, hey, man, how are you doing, because as 2051 01:35:03.560 --> 01:35:05.159 a good father, woul want his son to be healthy, 2052 01:35:05.279 --> 01:35:08.039 and he's like, I want to measure it. So so 2053 01:35:08.119 --> 01:35:09.880 he's a very healthy eighteen year old, and I was 2054 01:35:09.880 --> 01:35:11.840 trying to demonstrate that. You know, I'm forty eight years old, 2055 01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:17.840 he's he's twenty. Our bodies basically are behaving the same. 2056 01:35:18.720 --> 01:35:21.720 So yeah, people like you definitely had a lot to 2057 01:35:21.760 --> 01:35:22.640 say about this post. 2058 01:35:22.800 --> 01:35:25.720 Yeah, well it's somebody. He's pretty fascinating. You know when 2059 01:35:25.760 --> 01:35:27.800 you think about that you had thirty four million views on. 2060 01:35:27.840 --> 01:35:31.319 This, it'd be like that's not even like it would 2061 01:35:31.439 --> 01:35:33.520 so much more violent that that's insane, bro. 2062 01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:35.560 Yeah yeah, but dang. 2063 01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:39.039 Also, it's a great business card for your son in 2064 01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:42.760 the dating world, yeah, like you know what yeah yeah, 2065 01:35:42.960 --> 01:35:45.159 or the longevity world. I mean it's just like, yeah, 2066 01:35:45.199 --> 01:35:47.359 if that's something that's just like it's your nature that 2067 01:35:47.439 --> 01:35:49.279 it's going to show up at night, because yeah, I 2068 01:35:49.399 --> 01:35:51.079 noticed that. I definitely if I wake up with an erection, 2069 01:35:51.199 --> 01:35:54.119 I do feel more like, yeah, Okay I'm virile or 2070 01:35:54.560 --> 01:35:57.239 virile yeah, yeah, and I'm rocking, you know, and I 2071 01:35:57.359 --> 01:35:59.039 still got it, you know what I'm saying. 2072 01:35:59.159 --> 01:35:59.960 And bring on the day. 2073 01:36:00.279 --> 01:36:03.840 Yeah, you remember feel like when you were like early teens. 2074 01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:06.960 Oh yeah, you're always erect, Like in the middle of 2075 01:36:06.960 --> 01:36:09.479 the day, you have you just become erect. 2076 01:36:09.600 --> 01:36:09.800 Yeah. 2077 01:36:09.800 --> 01:36:11.319 I remember walking down the hall and ev and like 2078 01:36:11.439 --> 01:36:14.039 lean my body inward like to because or like walk 2079 01:36:14.079 --> 01:36:17.119 with your book over, yes, holding your book back and 2080 01:36:17.119 --> 01:36:19.520 wearing your

book back on the front. Yeah, or just 2081 01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:22.359 or i'd walk in like just at school, I would 2082 01:36:22.399 --> 01:36:25.159 just point my body towards the wall and just walk 2083 01:36:25.239 --> 01:36:26.920 sideways and shit, just weird shit. 2084 01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:32.199 Yeah exactly. That's like a robust function. But then as 2085 01:36:32.239 --> 01:36:34.960 you as you age, right, they just disappear. And so 2086 01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:36.439 that's why it's so important. So I talk about it 2087 01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:39.520 because people who don't have men who do not have 2088 01:36:39.640 --> 01:36:42.680 robust night time directions are seventy percent more likely to 2089 01:36:42.760 --> 01:36:45.600 have a cardiac event. So like you, like you really 2090 01:36:45.680 --> 01:36:48.680 want to know if it's not working, like all the 2091 01:36:48.760 --> 01:36:51.560 stuff was going on and so wow, a lot of. 2092 01:36:51.600 --> 01:36:53.560 My yeah, there was a long time I didn't because 2093 01:36:53.560 --> 01:36:55.920 a lot of it was psychological too. I think I 2094 01:36:56.079 --> 01:36:57.600 was just there was something going on in my head 2095 01:36:57.680 --> 01:36:58.479 that wasn't healthy. 2096 01:37:01.039 --> 01:37:04.039 You had mentioned you had an experience. I have to 2097 01:37:04.079 --> 01:37:04.680 pee really quick. 2098 01:37:04.720 --> 01:37:08.520 Now we just took a year in break. Dude, I 2099 01:37:08.640 --> 01:37:10.279 pee long when I pee? Do you because I drink 2100 01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:11.600 a lot of fluids during the day? 2101 01:37:11.760 --> 01:37:13.119 Yeah? Is that good or bad? 2102 01:37:13.279 --> 01:37:13.479 Good? 2103 01:37:13.479 --> 01:37:14.800 Does it matter? Yeah? Yeah? 2104 01:37:14.840 --> 01:37:17.000 Do you cut off fluids at a certain time at 2105 01:37:17.039 --> 01:37:18.760 the end of the day so you don't wake up 2106 01:37:18.800 --> 01:37:19.359 to pee at night? 2107 01:37:19.520 --> 01:37:21.880 Yeah? So I measure. What I did is I measured 2108 01:37:22.439 --> 01:37:25.720 my fluid. So when I exercise and when I'm in thesauna, 2109 01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:28.119 I'm able to exercise how much. I measure how much 2110 01:37:28.119 --> 01:37:30.600 I sweat. So Gatorade has a patch. Just put it 2111 01:37:30.640 --> 01:37:32.760 on the inside of your forearm, and then it gives 2112 01:37:32.800 --> 01:37:35.960 you how much you sweat and also the content of 2113 01:37:36.000 --> 01:37:38.000 your sodium, So you like a kind of a baseline, 2114 01:37:38.720 --> 01:37:40.039 and then you have an idea of like you can 2115 01:37:40.079 --> 01:37:43.800 back into how much should you consume and should you 2116 01:37:43.840 --> 01:37:46.119 have supplement with the sodium or do you already have that? So, yeah, 2117 01:37:46.119 --> 01:37:48.920 I consume about about one hundred and twenty one hundred 2118 01:37:48.920 --> 01:37:50.439 and thirty ounces of water per day, So a lot, 2119 01:37:50.560 --> 01:37:54.039 like you, I frontloaded in the morning and I stop 2120 01:37:54.119 --> 01:37:58.039 around four to five. So yeah, so that then helps 2121 01:37:58.119 --> 01:38:00.800 me less than the number time than it up. So sometimes, 2122 01:38:00.800 --> 01:38:03.680 if I'm lucky, I'll sleep with the entire night, and 2123 01:38:03.760 --> 01:38:06.159 then other times, like probably half the nights, you know, 2124 01:38:06.199 --> 01:38:09.640 I'll get up once. But yeah, I try stop fluid 2125 01:38:10.039 --> 01:38:12.039 towards the end of the day to stop gid up 2126 01:38:12.079 --> 01:38:12.279 a night. 2127 01:38:12.319 --> 01:38:14.000 So you'll stop a kind of right after you eat dinner. 2128 01:38:14.520 --> 01:38:16.159 Yeah, so I well, actually I eat dinner at like 2129 01:38:16.239 --> 01:38:19.760 eleven am noon. I have my final meal the day 2130 01:38:20.079 --> 01:38:20.600 around noon. 2131 01:38:21.079 --> 01:38:21.520 Oh you do. 2132 01:38:21.800 --> 01:38:24.720 Yeah, And when you have your first meal, man, when 2133 01:38:24.720 --> 01:38:26.319 I wake up at six, okay, I wake up. I 2134 01:38:26.359 --> 01:38:28.239 got four or five, like four or five, and then 2135 01:38:28.279 --> 01:38:31.359 I'll have breakfast before I eat. So you eat breakfast, yeah, 2136 01:38:31.520 --> 01:38:33.680 like so many things that are like, don't eat breakfast. 2137 01:38:33.840 --> 01:38:35.640 I feel better when I don't eatreakfast and I eat 2138 01:38:35.720 --> 01:38:37.079 later in the day and I keep it into a 2139 01:38:37.119 --> 01:38:38.119 smaller eating window. 2140 01:38:38.520 --> 01:38:39.079 But you don't. 2141 01:38:39.199 --> 01:38:41.399 That's not your practice. Yeah, Like do your thing right, 2142 01:38:41.479 --> 01:38:43.119 Like you're saying, do your thing, Yeah, exactly, I do 2143 01:38:43.199 --> 01:38:45.880 your thing. But I like what I I built my 2144 01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:50.640 life around sleep, Like unquestionably. So. The reason I do 2145 01:38:50.720 --> 01:38:53.159 that is because if I have my last meal around noon, 2146 01:38:54.560 --> 01:38:56.960 my heart before part before I go to bed will 2147 01:38:57.000 --> 01:38:59.800 be around forty one forty two, forty three beats per minute, 2148 01:39:00.399 --> 01:39:03.119 which if I have that, I will have a perfect 2149 01:39:03.319 --> 01:39:05.479 night sleep. I'll get like four to four and a 2150 01:39:05.479 --> 01:39:08.359 half hours for sort of sleep. I'll fall asleep within 2151 01:39:08.680 --> 01:39:12.600 one minute. I'll you know, half the nights I will 2152 01:39:12.800 --> 01:39:15.159 knock it up. Other nights I'll wake up. I'll be 2153 01:39:15.159 --> 01:39:18.359 back to sleep within like a minute or two and so. Yeah. 2154 01:39:18.439 --> 01:39:20.439 And then once I have that kind of sleep profile, 2155 01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:23.520 like I feel like I can take on life. When 2156

01:39:23.560 --> 01:39:26.479 I don't sleep well, it just it's a craw man. 2157 01:39:26.560 --> 01:39:28.520 It sucks. I hate how I feel. 2158 01:39:29.079 --> 01:39:32.039 Everything goes downhill, everything does. The way I treat other people, 2159 01:39:32.199 --> 01:39:34.840 the way I treat myself. Like you're saying last night's 2160 01:39:34.840 --> 01:39:36.359 sleep was bad, might as well wreck the rest of 2161 01:39:36.439 --> 01:39:38.760 the day. You know, there's this ye, yeah, there's this 2162 01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:41.760 like reginitator thing that sort of continues to happen. 2163 01:39:43.199 --> 01:39:45.800 Do you take any supplements for sleeping? 2164 01:39:47.399 --> 01:39:52.000 I take three hundred mcgs of meltonin, So that's not 2165 01:39:52.119 --> 01:39:54.800 to be confused with a milligram. It is like a 2166 01:39:54.880 --> 01:39:57.079 third of a milligram. Okay, so very very light dose. 2167 01:39:57.479 --> 01:39:59.359 That's all I take in a powder or chewable or 2168 01:39:59.399 --> 01:40:02.800 what just a I take a plant based melatonin, yeah, 2169 01:40:03.319 --> 01:40:05.760 instead of synthetic. But otherwise, you know, people have their 2170 01:40:05.760 --> 01:40:08.640 sleep stacks that have like the magnesiums and like cool, 2171 01:40:09.199 --> 01:40:10.079 but I just don't need it. 2172 01:40:11.119 --> 01:40:11.279 Yeah. 2173 01:40:11.319 --> 01:40:13.760 What I've learned is that the body is a clock. 2174 01:40:15.720 --> 01:40:20.199 It loves consistency, and so we've measured this where your 2175 01:40:20.239 --> 01:40:24.199 body wants to run. It runs certain biochemical processes on 2176 01:40:24.239 --> 01:40:26.840 a certain time frames. So for example, if your bedtime 2177 01:40:26.920 --> 01:40:30.680 is ten PM and you miss it, you say, like, 2178 01:40:30.800 --> 01:40:33.359 I'm gonna go to bed at two am today, but 2179 01:40:33.439 --> 01:40:35.399 I'll make up for it. I'll sleep in until ten 2180 01:40:35.439 --> 01:40:37.640 I get my full eight hours. It doesn't work like that. 2181 01:40:38.279 --> 01:40:41.760 So at ten PM, your body has a trash collector 2182 01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:44.439 that rolls to the body and it picks up the trash. 2183 01:40:45.119 --> 01:40:47.600 If you're not in bed at ten pm in a sleep, 2184 01:40:47.960 --> 01:40:50.840 the trash collector doesn't come and the trash accumulates in 2185 01:40:50.880 --> 01:40:54.359 the body. So it's more important to be on time 2186 01:40:54.560 --> 01:40:57.920 and consistent. Otherwise, like the body's processes can't do its thing. 2187 01:40:58.159 --> 01:41:00.319 So that's what I've learned, is like you have to 2188 01:41:00.439 --> 01:41:02.199 treat the body like a system. You can't just be 2189 01:41:02.359 --> 01:41:04.720 like fuck it, I'm gonna like power over it or 2190 01:41:04.840 --> 01:41:07.359 like run like you can't, Like the body runs on 2191 01:41:07.439 --> 01:41:09.720 certain principles of biology, you can't over rule it. 2192 01:41:10.760 --> 01:41:15.000 Wow, And it kind of makes sense because even your brain, 2193 01:41:15.079 --> 01:41:17.279 like your brain's main job is just to keep things organized. 2194 01:41:17.319 --> 01:41:19.560 Your body just wants to it. Yeah, a system just 2195 01:41:19.640 --> 01:41:21.960 wants to run, Yeah, in an organized fashion. 2196 01:41:22.039 --> 01:41:22.560 Yeah exactly. 2197 01:41:22.800 --> 01:41:23.000 Yeah. 2198 01:41:23.319 --> 01:41:25.199 Like you're saying, like when we first started talking, is 2199 01:41:25.239 --> 01:41:27.800 like you have a plan, you have a routine, Like 2200 01:41:27.920 --> 01:41:30.479 it feels good, you like it. Mentally, it feels good, 2201 01:41:30.520 --> 01:41:32.560 the body feels good. It's just better have that. 2202 01:41:32.920 --> 01:41:35.840 I've read somewhere that you spend like a couple million 2203 01:41:35.920 --> 01:41:38.039 dollars a year to take care of yourself and to 2204 01:41:38.279 --> 01:41:39.000 learn data. 2205 01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:40.359 What is it? 2206 01:41:40.439 --> 01:41:42.479 What does that financially look like for you? Really? 2207 01:41:42.600 --> 01:41:45.479 Is that the truth that was true? I think initially? Okay, 2208 01:41:45.600 --> 01:41:47.640 it's I think it's a bit less now because we 2209 01:41:47.720 --> 01:41:50.079 have all these systems built out. But the cost primarily 2210 01:41:50.159 --> 01:41:53.800 came from hiring the doctors, hiring the scientists. So we 2211 01:41:53.880 --> 01:41:56.680 had to like comb through all the scientific evidence, like 2212 01:41:56.720 --> 01:42:00.359 for example, if you do sauna, how do you sauna? 2213 01:42:00.800 --> 01:42:02.680 What temperature? What kind of sauna? 2214 01:42:03.640 --> 01:42:03.800 You know? 2215 01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:06.800 How long do I see your taskles or not? How 2216 01:42:06.840 --> 01:42:08.760 do you measure your heat shock proteins? Like the little 2217 01:42:08.800 --> 01:42:10.960 minions going out doing the good shit, Like you have 2218 01:42:11.079 --> 01:42:14.279 to go to this degree which is extensive. And then 2219 01:42:14.600 --> 01:42:16.920 I bought a bunch of equipment, like I have a couple, 2220 01:42:17.239 --> 01:42:18.640 like I don't know, a million or two of equipment 2221 01:42:18.680 --> 01:42:21.279 at the house, all the various things, and then just 2222 01:42:21.319 --> 01:42:23.880 all the money for the experimentation of the measurement. But 2223 01:42:24.000 --> 01:42:26.920 the actual things we've learned are low cost, Like I 2224 01:42:26.960 --> 01:42:29.600 can take everything I've learned and give it to somebody 2225 01:42:29.720 --> 01:42:31.560 and they can put it into their life, like at 2226 01:42:31.560 --> 01:42:34.039 a very very low cost. So it's been really just 2227 01:42:34.079 --> 01:42:38.079 about there's actually very few therapies that costs a lot 2228 01:42:38.119 -->

01:42:42.279 of money that are worth Like most things don't work, 2229 01:42:43.640 --> 01:42:45.920 most things are bullshit. And so that's been the process 2230 01:42:45.920 --> 01:42:47.640 of like spending the money to figure out what does 2231 01:42:47.720 --> 01:42:49.199 work and then how those things work. 2232 01:42:49.359 --> 01:42:51.520 What about red light therapy? Do you think that's helpful? 2233 01:42:51.960 --> 01:42:55.560 It's see this is the thing is yes, but you 2234 01:42:55.720 --> 01:42:58.399 have to make sure that you're getting the right amount 2235 01:42:58.439 --> 01:43:00.760 of light therapy for the right now duration of time. 2236 01:43:01.439 --> 01:43:03.720 And so if it's like a face mask, of whether 2237 01:43:03.800 --> 01:43:06.199 it's a panel, and so we do things like we'll 2238 01:43:06.239 --> 01:43:08.800 take a panel, we'll measure the irradiance, like how much 2239 01:43:08.880 --> 01:43:11.760 exposure you're getting at what distance, what duration if you're 2240 01:43:11.800 --> 01:43:15.000 looking for like deep pilling or longevity. So again, I 2241 01:43:15.039 --> 01:43:17.399 don't want to make it overly complicated, but it matters, 2242 01:43:17.439 --> 01:43:18.920 and so we try to be very precise. Like if 2243 01:43:18.920 --> 01:43:22.039 you're doing red light therapy, get this dose, and now 2244 01:43:22.079 --> 01:43:23.600 you can just go to an AIM model and be like, 2245 01:43:24.119 --> 01:43:27.039 I have this device, it has these specs. If I 2246 01:43:27.079 --> 01:43:29.119 want a loungevity protocol, how long should I have this? 2247 01:43:29.399 --> 01:43:31.239 That gives you the data. But you want to be 2248 01:43:31.319 --> 01:43:33.560 precise because a lot of people think, like red light's good, 2249 01:43:33.680 --> 01:43:35.960 I'll just do it and it's great, Like it's more nuanced. 2250 01:43:36.079 --> 01:43:39.359 Because I was talking about natural path ophthalmologists. Yeah, and 2251 01:43:39.479 --> 01:43:42.159 she was saying that some exposure of red light therapy 2252 01:43:42.279 --> 01:43:43.119 can be helpful. 2253 01:43:43.359 --> 01:43:43.520 Yeah. 2254 01:43:43.560 --> 01:43:44.880 I do it every day. I do red light. I 2255 01:43:44.960 --> 01:43:49.399 have three panels that surround me. It's red and near light. 2256 01:43:49.760 --> 01:43:51.520 I do it for six minutes a day. Okay, so 2257 01:43:51.600 --> 01:43:53.359 I do every day. It's a good therapy, got it. 2258 01:43:54.439 --> 01:43:57.920 What about like barometric those you know those like barometric chambers. 2259 01:43:58.000 --> 01:43:59.880 You see a lot of those at wellness centers. You know. 2260 01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:01.479 I'll go to a place where I get n A 2261 01:44:01.640 --> 01:44:04.119 D every week and I'll do NA D injections every day. 2262 01:44:05.279 --> 01:44:10.880 Are you do? Is the barometric thing something you recommend? 2263 01:44:10.960 --> 01:44:13.520 Yeah? So I have

a hyperbaric oxiden therapy change that's 2264 01:44:13.520 --> 01:44:13.800 what I mean. 2265 01:44:13.880 --> 01:44:14.439 Hyperbaric. 2266 01:44:14.520 --> 01:44:20.000 Yeah, so it's it's potentially it's right there at the 2267 01:44:20.239 --> 01:44:25.159 very very top. So i'd say sauna hyperbaric oxiden therapy 2268 01:44:25.520 --> 01:44:30.159 and like interestingly mushrooms magic mushrooms is up there. But yeah, 2269 01:44:30.199 --> 01:44:33.479 hyperbaric is one of the best therapies. Like we all 2270 01:44:33.520 --> 01:44:35.680 do with our experiments, I did a two hundred and 2271 01:44:35.680 --> 01:44:41.119 fifty bio marker measurement and what we saw after sixty sessions, Yeah, 2272 01:44:41.199 --> 01:44:47.079 three we go there's the system. We we saw changes 2273 01:44:47.319 --> 01:44:52.760 in my brain, in my microbiome, my skin, my blood inflammation, 2274 01:44:53.000 --> 01:44:58.239 like telomeres. It just had more whole body effects. If 2275 01:44:58.279 --> 01:45:01.359 you pull up do find the one I I did 2276 01:45:01.439 --> 01:45:07.600 on x Brian Johnson HBO summary. It's the best skin 2277 01:45:08.479 --> 01:45:12.000 rejuvenation protocol in the world that rebuilds collagen elassin fibers. 2278 01:45:12.159 --> 01:45:14.560 It gets rid of senesca cells, which is zombie cells. 2279 01:45:14.840 --> 01:45:16.000 How long do you need to be in there for 2280 01:45:16.399 --> 01:45:20.960 that's the thing that's the problem. Ninety minutes day percession 2281 01:45:21.159 --> 01:45:23.119 and you need to do sixty. Yeah, there we go. 2282 01:45:24.000 --> 01:45:27.039 That's a good summary. So it does sixty sessions each 2283 01:45:27.239 --> 01:45:31.880 ninety minutes in ninety days. So it's a gigantic amount 2284 01:45:31.920 --> 01:45:34.600 of time. Yeah, and you can't have electronics in there, 2285 01:45:34.680 --> 01:45:37.359 it's too dangerous. So yeah, this is the thing is 2286 01:45:37.439 --> 01:45:41.279 it's it's really inaccessible, which is sad because it's so good. 2287 01:45:42.159 --> 01:45:44.760 Three hundred percent increase in formation and new blood vessels, 2288 01:45:44.840 --> 01:45:47.039 telemerite activity of a twelve year old associated with the 2289 01:45:47.039 --> 01:45:53.079 biological agete, ninety percent increase in short chain fatty acids. 2290 01:45:53.359 --> 01:45:54.880 But you'd have to do this and then keep it 2291 01:45:54.960 --> 01:45:56.239 up for every year, right. 2292 01:45:56.359 --> 01:45:59.560 Yeah, Actually, so people don't really know we're experimenting. But 2293 01:45:59.720 --> 01:46:03.159 right now now I'm doing sixty sessions per year in 2294 01:46:03.279 --> 01:46:05.640 like a big burst, and then I'll do like a 2295 01:46:05.760 --> 01:46:09.319 twenty session burst once per quarter, and so I'll do 2296 01:46:09.439 --> 01:46:12.760 this around for example, like a certain treatments. Like Thursday, 2297 01:46:12.760 --> 01:46:14.399 I had a bunch of stuff under my face. So 2298 01:46:14.520 --> 01:46:18.079 I'm beat up. I've got like stuff all over the place. Yes, 2299 01:46:18.199 --> 01:46:19.960 like under I have like bruised. 2300 01:46:21.960 --> 01:46:25.640 Yeah, your damn lab rat, Yeah, your damn white mouse. 2301 01:46:26.159 --> 01:46:30.560 Yes, like we as you age you, you lose collagen 2302 01:46:31.079 --> 01:46:34.279 and so your skin like gets saggy and let's plump. 2303 01:46:34.760 --> 01:46:37.239 And so I did a bunch of injectables to rebuild 2304 01:46:37.279 --> 01:46:39.800 my collagen. Okay, and so that's why I'm bruised and 2305 01:46:39.840 --> 01:46:42.920 stuff like that. But then you pair that with hyperbaric 2306 01:46:42.960 --> 01:46:44.880 auxidive therapy and like boost the therapy. 2307 01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:47.079 Got it? So yeah, so that's the thing. 2308 01:46:47.119 --> 01:46:48.880 So say, if I'm gonna go get an ANAD injection 2309 01:46:49.000 --> 01:46:50.720 or an ivy every week and it's gonna take two 2310 01:46:50.760 --> 01:46:52.720 hours anyway, while I'll sit in there, I might as 2311 01:46:52.760 --> 01:46:55.159 well sit in the hyperbaric while I do it, if 2312 01:46:55.199 --> 01:46:56.920 there's one there. Or do you think if I only 2313 01:46:56.960 --> 01:46:58.960 go fifty times in a year, is even worth it? 2314 01:46:59.159 --> 01:47:02.640 I mean, you like there are you can do, like 2315 01:47:03.359 --> 01:47:05.119 one session is good for you, got it? And you 2316 01:47:05.199 --> 01:47:07.760 can do five also good for you. There's like protocols 2317 01:47:08.359 --> 01:47:11.680 that on healing, like diabetics will do like ten to 2318 01:47:11.760 --> 01:47:14.560 twenty sessions to close open wounds because it's really great 2319 01:47:14.560 --> 01:47:17.560 for healing. This is just like the longevity protocols, So 2320 01:47:17.600 --> 01:47:19.680 you can do fewer sessions and still do it, but 2321 01:47:19.720 --> 01:47:22.920 you want to have it. It's a compounded therapy, so 2322 01:47:23.039 --> 01:47:25.760 do them in a close proximity, but no more than 2323 01:47:25.840 --> 01:47:27.960 five per week. Your body needs to have a break, 2324 01:47:28.119 --> 01:47:28.399 got it. 2325 01:47:28.640 --> 01:47:28.840 Yeah? 2326 01:47:29.640 --> 01:47:31.359 Yeah, I saw you did the mushroom therapy and that's 2327 01:47:31.359 --> 01:47:32.920 one of the things that kind of brought me like 2328 01:47:33.439 --> 01:47:35.359 made me think like, Okay, this guy it's not like 2329 01:47:35.560 --> 01:47:37.960 you know, this guy's really he's still out there experimenting 2330 01:47:38.039 --> 01:47:41.960 and wanting to learn more. Right, what was that therapy 2331 01:47:42.199 --> 01:47:44.600 like for you? And were you surprised by it? And 2332 01:47:44.800 --> 01:47:47.000 was it psilocybin? I guess the and the effects? 2333 01:47:47.159 --> 01:47:50.640 Yeah, that this is one of the coolest discoveries we've made. 2334

01:47:50.960 --> 01:47:55.920 Is psilocybin like sits in the world of psychedelics, but 2335 01:47:56.039 --> 01:48:00.600 it's never been bridged over to longevity. Different way of 2336 01:48:00.720 --> 01:48:04.159 thinking about psilocybin and talking about it. And so we said, 2337 01:48:04.600 --> 01:48:07.479 can we do an experiment to see is our magic 2338 01:48:07.560 --> 01:48:10.920 mushrooms a loungevity therapy? So same thing we measurreed two 2339 01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:16.399 hundred and fifty bio markers and the data was insane surprisingly, so, 2340 01:48:16.600 --> 01:48:21.399 like we found this new thing where there were studies 2341 01:48:21.479 --> 01:48:26.279 in mice that showed that the blood glucose improved in me. 2342 01:48:27.079 --> 01:48:31.880 My blood glucose went from ninety eight point two percentile 2343 01:48:31.960 --> 01:48:35.600 in the population a good to ninety nine point eight percentile. 2344 01:48:35.640 --> 01:48:37.720 I think something like that. Like it almost hit like 2345 01:48:37.760 --> 01:48:42.680 a metabolic reset in the brain, resetting your blood glucose regulation, 2346 01:48:42.720 --> 01:48:47.319 which is gigantic. It took my inflammation levels down to undetectable. 2347 01:48:47.960 --> 01:48:52.680 It had changes in my microbiome. It I list them 2348 01:48:52.680 --> 01:48:56.319 all out here. Yeah, like it legit is a longevity therapy. 2349 01:48:56.720 --> 01:49:00.520 It reduced inflammation and blood detectable called my body and mind, 2350 01:49:00.600 --> 01:49:04.319 lower cortisol, inhibited HPA access in the days following the. 2351 01:49:04.359 --> 01:49:06.840 Dose, made neuroplasticity in the brain, like takes your brain 2352 01:49:06.880 --> 01:49:08.000 to a more youthful state. 2353 01:49:08.199 --> 01:49:08.399 Wow. 2354 01:49:08.439 --> 01:49:10.399 So you guys did a lot of like treatment while 2355 01:49:10.439 --> 01:49:13.600 you were under this, And did you then put this 2356 01:49:13.920 --> 01:49:15.359 into your protocol after that? 2357 01:49:15.760 --> 01:49:20.039 Yeah, yep. So it's really early days. Nobody knows the 2358 01:49:20.079 --> 01:49:24.000 ideal protocol, but right now it's like once every thirty 2359 01:49:24.119 --> 01:49:25.199 days seems to. 2360 01:49:25.199 --> 01:49:28.079 Be about right, and how much mushrooms you taken. 2361 01:49:28.159 --> 01:49:32.319 Twenty five milligrams of psilocybin, Okay, So then it depends 2362 01:49:32.399 --> 01:49:35.760 upon the strain. So I did the B positive mushroom strain. 2363 01:49:36.319 --> 01:49:39.319 So it's like four and a half grams of dried 2364 01:49:39.359 --> 01:49:43.199 mushroom powder, which then was the twenty five milligrams of psilocybin. 2365 01:49:43.399 --> 01:49:44.600 So that's a real trip kind. 2366 01:49:44.479 --> 01:49:49.279 Of yeah's clinical grade. It's like it's just below a ecodisolution. 2367 01:49:50.119 --> 01:49:50.359 Wow. 2368 01:49:50.439 --> 01:49:52.039 So you have to be like in a say, you 2369 01:49:52.079 --> 01:49:53.039 got to chill out somewhere. 2370 01:49:54.319 --> 01:49:55.760 You don't want to beat the club, right. 2371 01:49:58.600 --> 01:50:01.680 And what about but you but that was so helpful 2372 01:50:01.720 --> 01:50:03.199 to you. Now it's part of the protocol. 2373 01:50:03.399 --> 01:50:04.640 Yeah wow yeah. 2374 01:50:04.840 --> 01:50:05.000 Yeah. 2375 01:50:05.079 --> 01:50:09.479 We're doing our next psychedelic live stream in three weeks. 2376 01:50:10.199 --> 01:50:11.920 We're doing a new psychedelic Oh yeah, this is cool. 2377 01:50:12.239 --> 01:50:13.479 So yeah, Kate did it with me. 2378 01:50:13.840 --> 01:50:15.960 Oh, your girl did it, and you did the first one. 2379 01:50:16.920 --> 01:50:19.079 Just showed up at the end of when I was 2380 01:50:19.159 --> 01:50:21.520 coming down. He showed up with my dad. 2381 01:50:21.680 --> 01:50:22.479 Oh it's crazy. 2382 01:50:22.800 --> 01:50:25.039 We had such a good family bonding moment, you know, 2383 01:50:25.079 --> 01:50:27.039 because like you're in that state and I was just 2384 01:50:27.159 --> 01:50:29.720 giddy and euphoric and I was able to express things 2385 01:50:29.800 --> 01:50:32.760 to my dad. Yeah yeah, oh man, that's huge. And 2386 01:50:32.840 --> 01:50:35.239 so then yeah, so we did this. We see the 2387 01:50:35.520 --> 01:50:41.079 temperature when you take psilocybin, your body changes in this 2388 01:50:41.359 --> 01:50:45.199 thermal regulation, so the extremities get a lot colder. You 2389 01:50:45.279 --> 01:50:47.359 have a lot of heat going inside. So we did 2390 01:50:47.399 --> 01:50:51.560 that as a measurement. But yeah, so we're looking at 2391 01:50:51.600 --> 01:50:54.039 our next psychedelic because there's like a few things like 2392 01:50:55.279 --> 01:51:01.239 we did ssil cybin, but other contenders are ayahuasca, five 2393 01:51:01.359 --> 01:51:07.119 m e O. What else did we look at? Yeah, 2394 01:51:07.159 --> 01:51:10.319 so we're doing one live streaming in three weeks. 2395 01:51:10.399 --> 01:51:11.159 Wow, that's amazing. 2396 01:51:11.560 --> 01:51:14.960 Yeah, ayahuasca has been one that you should I've done 2397 01:51:14.960 --> 01:51:15.920 it before. It's been amazing. 2398 01:51:16.159 --> 01:51:18.039 You should come on. So last last time we did this, 2399 01:51:18.640 --> 01:51:20.760 we had people who came on to work because I 2400 01:51:20.960 --> 01:51:23.439 was tripping, and we had a bunch of people who 2401 01:51:23.479 --> 01:51:27.560 were commentators who are like like almost like fight show stuff, 2402 01:51:27.560 --> 01:51:30.399 like you, Yeah, you should come on and be a commentator. 2403 01:51:31.079 --> 01:51:33.880 Dang, bro, that would be so wild to commentate somebody 2404 01:51:33.880 --> 01:51:35.880 who's going through an ayahuasca experience. 2405 01:51:37.079 --> 01:51:38.960 I'm not opposed to that. Where are you based out of? 2406

01:51:39.680 --> 01:51:43.279 Well, we'll do it internationally, so oh you have to, 2407 01:51:43.359 --> 01:51:45.520 I guess, yes, just be online just like we just 2408 01:51:45.600 --> 01:51:49.119 bring you in. So it's like, you know, it's like, actually, 2409 01:51:49.159 --> 01:51:52.760 it'd be fun to get a few comedians kind of in, like, 2410 01:51:52.880 --> 01:51:55.720 you know, give give their two cents on like what's 2411 01:51:55.800 --> 01:51:56.039 going on? 2412 01:51:56.279 --> 01:52:00.000 And are there any psychedelics that you would say are definitively. 2413 01:51:59.560 --> 01:51:59.920 Bad for you? 2414 01:52:00.600 --> 01:52:06.119 Hmmm, I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. 2415 01:52:06.399 --> 01:52:08.279 Is there any like therapy that you went and tried 2416 01:52:08.319 --> 01:52:10.439 and you were like, oh, this is definitely not it, 2417 01:52:10.880 --> 01:52:13.119 or like, was there every place where you got scared, 2418 01:52:13.199 --> 01:52:17.000 like you went to like you know, romani or someplace 2419 01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:18.760 you know, this hype of hypothesizing. 2420 01:52:18.840 --> 01:52:20.439 But yeah, I like, if you pull up that image 2421 01:52:20.439 --> 01:52:22.119 of my face that blow up, you had it out 2422 01:52:22.119 --> 01:52:26.920 there before. I yeah, so that's you, that's me. 2423 01:52:27.119 --> 01:52:27.319 Yeah. 2424 01:52:27.840 --> 01:52:31.640 So I got really skinny in the early days of 2425 01:52:31.720 --> 01:52:34.279 this project, really was skinny, and I lost a bunch 2426 01:52:34.319 --> 01:52:36.960 of volume in my face. And so when you lose 2427 01:52:37.039 --> 01:52:39.720 volume in your face, it's very hard to get back volume. 2428 01:52:39.760 --> 01:52:42.039 So most people just do filler, but I didn't want 2429 01:52:42.039 --> 01:52:44.800 to do filler, and so we did this reneuva, which 2430 01:52:44.880 --> 01:52:48.279 is this fat. So someone else was fat. So I 2431 01:52:48.359 --> 01:52:50.560 injected it into my face and I had a severe reaction. 2432 01:52:51.359 --> 01:52:53.119 So that was so that didn't work. 2433 01:52:53.960 --> 01:52:57.640 But that's crazy, dude. I saw this earlier and I 2434 01:52:57.760 --> 01:53:00.000 was thinking, like, who is this lady that they're bringing up? 2435 01:53:00.039 --> 01:53:04.039 Uh? I thought this was like a Native American woman. 2436 01:53:05.159 --> 01:53:07.600 I totally thought this was a native Yeah, like on 2437 01:53:07.680 --> 01:53:09.560 the on the far right there. That was me like 2438 01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:13.359 like forty five minutes after the injection, I was like, 2439 01:53:13.479 --> 01:53:16.319 oh shit, this is not a good situation. It took 2440 01:53:16.399 --> 01:53:17.520 me like six days. 2441 01:53:18.720 --> 01:53:19.199 It was bad. 2442 01:53:19.359 --> 01:53:24.359 That's pretty scary, dude, spending all this time working on yourself, right, 2443 01:53:24.840 --> 01:53:26.880 how do you stay out of like ego with it? 2444 01:53:27.239 --> 01:53:29.680 Because it's such a self you know, in the end, 2445 01:53:29.720 --> 01:53:32.199 there's a there's some ecause because it's you. You're the 2446 01:53:32.279 --> 01:53:36.760 yourr own experiment, you know. And then what are some 2447 01:53:36.880 --> 01:53:38.439 of the side like what does it cost you? Like 2448 01:53:38.479 --> 01:53:40.199 what have been some of the things, Like have there 2449 01:53:40.279 --> 01:53:42.640 been relationships you haven't been able to have, Like has 2450 01:53:42.720 --> 01:53:45.560 it been tough to like spend time with family? Like 2451 01:53:45.600 --> 01:53:47.279 what are some things what are the side effects of 2452 01:53:47.840 --> 01:53:50.840 being like, you know, one of the biggest experiments in 2453 01:53:51.439 --> 01:53:52.880 in uh in history yeah. 2454 01:53:53.640 --> 01:53:56.039 I mean that's that's like one of the primary criticisms, 2455 01:53:56.079 --> 01:53:59.520 Like it is people say, uh, you know, broso busy 2456 01:53:59.600 --> 01:54:03.159 trying to I forgot how to live. And I understand 2457 01:54:03.159 --> 01:54:06.079 what they're saying. I definitely understand the perspective. And I 2458 01:54:06.520 --> 01:54:10.479 view myself as a modern day explorer, you know, like 2459 01:54:10.800 --> 01:54:13.239 somebody who is out there on the frontier trying to 2460 01:54:13.319 --> 01:54:17.439 discover something new, and like, man, I fucking love this 2461 01:54:17.960 --> 01:54:22.760 so much. I love this game so much. I'm into it, 2462 01:54:22.920 --> 01:54:24.439 like it when I wake up in the morning, It's 2463 01:54:24.479 --> 01:54:26.520 the first thing I think about all day long, Like 2464 01:54:26.640 --> 01:54:28.479 what is the experiment, what is the data, what is 2465 01:54:28.520 --> 01:54:31.439 the science? I love it, And so I think people 2466 01:54:31.720 --> 01:54:34.520 just don't understand that it's a game I'm in love with. 2467 01:54:35.319 --> 01:54:37.479 And so you know, if is there a cost, yes, 2468 01:54:37.720 --> 01:54:41.359 like my friends going out and doing things sometimes that 2469 01:54:41.399 --> 01:54:43.760 I'm doing. Yes, Like do I feel a loss, No, 2470 01:54:43.960 --> 01:54:46.439 Like I'm very happy with the situation and so like 2471 01:54:46.560 --> 01:54:49.399 in some ways, like I'm a new kind of athlete. 2472 01:54:49.520 --> 01:54:53.279 I'm a professional rejuvenation athlete. Like Lebron goes to bed 2473 01:54:53.319 --> 01:54:55.479 on time, eats well, and we're like, oh, man, like 2474 01:54:55.560 --> 01:54:57.960 you play well in the court. People just don't understand 2475 01:54:58.319 --> 01:55:01.039 I'm a new archetype. They haven't seen it before. So 2476 01:55:01.159 --> 01:55:03.199 there's like just like a disconnect between that. It's cool, 2477 01:55:03.520 --> 01:55:05.800 like I love the hate. It's like great energy, right,

2478 01:55:05.880 --> 01:55:07.000 Like it's just a lot of discussion. 2479 01:55:07.359 --> 01:55:09.039 Yeah, and there's just a lot of confusion around it, 2480 01:55:09.119 --> 01:55:11.159 you know. Yeah, Yeah, I think you just don't know, 2481 01:55:11.560 --> 01:55:13.640 especially at a time when there's like these tech lords 2482 01:55:13.920 --> 01:55:17.520 who it seems like they want to like siphon everybody's yeah, Android, 2483 01:55:17.600 --> 01:55:20.520 chronome or whatever. Have you had anybody hit you up 2484 01:55:20.520 --> 01:55:22.159 about getting some adrenochrome or whatever? 2485 01:55:22.359 --> 01:55:29.000 Yeah, everybody has reached out to me, like everybody, top 2486 01:55:29.000 --> 01:55:31.000 to bottom, you name it, And like it's just like 2487 01:55:32.880 --> 01:55:38.279 what you know, what gives you a feeling of power? 2488 01:55:38.399 --> 01:55:44.920 You're like money, status or immortality, like immortality right the 2489 01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:47.560 other thing? They just don't care. It's like they just 2490 01:55:47.600 --> 01:55:48.960 don't pell Like this is what I'm saying, Like this 2491 01:55:49.079 --> 01:55:53.560 transition is happening. What good is money if you're dead? 2492 01:55:54.159 --> 01:55:56.680 What good is status if you're dead? Any world leaders 2493 01:55:56.720 --> 01:56:01.079 reached out? Yes, yeah, so what world do you think 2494 01:56:01.119 --> 01:56:04.560 they're from? I mean, they they they all want it, 2495 01:56:05.039 --> 01:56:06.880 They all want to be healthy, they all want world 2496 01:56:06.960 --> 01:56:10.399 leader to heat you up straight up, call you right up? Yeah, wow, 2497 01:56:10.600 --> 01:56:13.319 yeah yeah. I mean I mean it's like from everybody 2498 01:56:13.960 --> 01:56:16.640 say or no, you keep it. I can't yeah yeah, 2499 01:56:16.760 --> 01:56:17.520 but I ask. 2500 01:56:17.720 --> 01:56:17.920 Yeah. 2501 01:56:17.960 --> 01:56:21.079 I mean there was like this moment where Shipping and 2502 01:56:21.319 --> 01:56:23.840 Putin they had this hot mic issue a couple like 2503 01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:26.359 months ago, where they're both like, yeah, like you know, 2504 01:56:26.359 --> 01:56:28.159 it looks like we should be able to live like 2505 01:56:28.199 --> 01:56:29.119 one hundred and fifty years old. 2506 01:56:29.159 --> 01:56:29.600 I remember that. 2507 01:56:29.800 --> 01:56:32.840 Yeah, So it's like it's on their minds, Like it's 2508 01:56:32.920 --> 01:56:35.000 clearly in the zeitgeist, and if you're in that circle, 2509 01:56:35.439 --> 01:56:38.199 as I've watched this, like it's funny. In the world 2510 01:56:38.279 --> 01:56:43.520 of status and power, the new status marker is health, 2511 01:56:44.279 --> 01:56:47.159 Like that's what gives people power. And like now like 2512 01:56:47.239 --> 01:56:49.159 having a big bank account, sure it's cool whatever, but 2513 01:56:49.279 --> 01:56:51.960 like it doesn't matter, it

has much. So it really 2514 01:56:52.119 --> 01:56:55.439 is like this big zeitgeist change on what it means 2515 01:56:55.520 --> 01:56:57.159 to be powerful in society and have status. 2516 01:56:57.479 --> 01:56:59.560 So I love seeing it. Like the more that happens, 2517 01:56:59.600 --> 01:57:02.840 the better off. Do you have competitors out there? Are 2518 01:57:02.880 --> 01:57:04.920 there other yous out there that you start to run 2519 01:57:05.000 --> 01:57:07.399 across from different realms or different countries or whatever. 2520 01:57:07.520 --> 01:57:09.000 I mean, like anyone who's trying. 2521 01:57:09.119 --> 01:57:09.479 I love it. 2522 01:57:09.760 --> 01:57:11.760 Like I'm a very much a yes and kind of guy, 2523 01:57:12.199 --> 01:57:15.560 Like anyone's out there experimenting great, you know, like do 2524 01:57:15.720 --> 01:57:19.039 your thing be beautiful. So yeah, I really try to 2525 01:57:19.119 --> 01:57:21.159 encourage everybody. People will call me and they'll be like, 2526 01:57:21.479 --> 01:57:23.640 I'm gonna beat you at your markers. I'm gonna great. 2527 01:57:23.680 --> 01:57:26.239 I will help you right, like I will make you better, 2528 01:57:26.399 --> 01:57:28.520 like I will. You'll have to make the same mistakes 2529 01:57:28.600 --> 01:57:31.960 I have. So we're just when you think about it, 2530 01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:36.279 we are. The whole situation is so fucked up. We're 2531 01:57:36.319 --> 01:57:40.199 on planet Earth in the middle of space. What is 2532 01:57:40.279 --> 01:57:40.800 even going on? 2533 01:57:41.439 --> 01:57:41.560 Right? 2534 01:57:41.640 --> 01:57:44.319 And it's like this is so crazy, and like the 2535 01:57:44.439 --> 01:57:47.039 fact that we're conscious is so cool. The fact that 2536 01:57:47.079 --> 01:57:49.760 we're live is so amazing, Like why wouldn't we do 2537 01:57:50.079 --> 01:57:53.199 absolutely everything in our power to keep this game going, 2538 01:57:53.439 --> 01:57:55.479 Like I don't want it to stop, and so like, 2539 01:57:55.600 --> 01:57:57.039 to me, it's the coolest game. And so yeah, it's 2540 01:57:57.039 --> 01:58:01.199 like celebrate everybody who's trying to embrace life and like, honestly, 2541 01:58:02.159 --> 01:58:04.000 get fucking rid of everybody who tried to kill us, 2542 01:58:04.199 --> 01:58:08.000 Like stop it, stop the fucking killing. It's so crazy 2543 01:58:08.039 --> 01:58:08.479 and stupid. 2544 01:58:09.000 --> 01:58:11.520 Had via to separate some relationships because your journey winning 2545 01:58:11.520 --> 01:58:12.760 this direction kind of Yep. 2546 01:58:12.640 --> 01:58:17.920 My friends are more like me than I ever would 2547 01:58:17.960 --> 01:58:20.439 have guessed now, Like they go to bed on time, right, 2548 01:58:20.560 --> 01:58:24.600 they see it, So I'd say, my friend group, we 2549 01:58:24.760 --> 01:58:27.640 now do things together, and so no, I don't miss 2550 01:58:27.680 --> 01:58:29.680 out

much. Like there's there's some things like for example, 2551 01:58:31.399 --> 01:58:35.800 Grimes did a she did a DJ set and she 2552 01:58:35.920 --> 01:58:38.840 started at one, so I went to bed at seven pm. 2553 01:58:39.520 --> 01:58:42.600 I woke up like at nine thirty pm, and then 2554 01:58:42.640 --> 01:58:44.880 I went out did her set with her, then went 2555 01:58:45.119 --> 01:58:47.399 back to bed. I did with Aoki as well. So 2556 01:58:47.520 --> 01:58:49.760 like I've been trying to like be balanced of like 2557 01:58:50.199 --> 01:58:53.319 be rigid. Also, the rest of the world parties at 2558 01:58:53.319 --> 01:58:55.600 one o'clock in the morning, so and I still had 2559 01:58:55.680 --> 01:58:57.520 like a great sleep score. I still got my reswortive sleep. 2560 01:58:57.600 --> 01:59:00.680 So like I have tried my best to go after 2561 01:59:00.760 --> 01:59:02.800 this goal of don't die, but also like try to 2562 01:59:03.560 --> 01:59:06.319 find some compromise in doing things that are currently normal 2563 01:59:06.399 --> 01:59:07.159 in today's society. 2564 01:59:07.359 --> 01:59:10.479 Do you feel addicted to wanting to to not die? 2565 01:59:11.800 --> 01:59:14.000 I mean probably right, like in the same way like 2566 01:59:15.079 --> 01:59:19.279 are people addicted to making money? Yeah, you know, people 2567 01:59:19.319 --> 01:59:21.840 addicted to social media. Yeah, like like the human conditions 2568 01:59:21.920 --> 01:59:25.680 kind of addiction, and so like am I Yeah, I'm 2569 01:59:25.800 --> 01:59:28.359 lost in this. I don't think I've ever felt as 2570 01:59:28.760 --> 01:59:31.640 satisfied and fulfilled as I do now. Wow, I've got 2571 01:59:31.760 --> 01:59:35.279 a fantastic family, I have a fantastic partner. I love 2572 01:59:35.399 --> 01:59:38.760 the game I'm playing. I just you know, like I 2573 01:59:38.920 --> 01:59:42.239 went through like ten years of chronic depression, like legit 2574 01:59:42.359 --> 01:59:44.279 wanted to kill myself and I would have done it, 2575 01:59:44.359 --> 01:59:46.239 had to notive for my kids. It's like, I know 2576 01:59:46.359 --> 01:59:48.439 what shitty feels like, like when you're just like you're 2577 01:59:48.439 --> 01:59:51.079 so buried deep and it's like I don't know how 2578 01:59:51.079 --> 01:59:53.199 many day out of this, Like it's just bad. 2579 01:59:53.520 --> 01:59:54.560 What started the cause of that? 2580 01:59:54.640 --> 01:59:57.199 Do you think I'd well? A couple of things. One, 2581 01:59:57.279 --> 01:59:59.680 I just had my first baby and he was colicky, 2582 02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:02.000 and so we weren't sleeping. It was like six months 2583 02:00:02.039 --> 02:00:05.119 of total sleep deprivation. I was building a startup, so 2584 02:00:05.560 --> 02:00:07.920 I had no money. I was stressed out of my mind. 2585 02:00:08.079 --> 02:00:10.520 My partner wasn't working, so I was a sole provider, 2586 02:00:11.439 --> 02:00:14.479 and so it's just like no sleep and startup and 2587 02:00:14.800 --> 02:00:16.560 no money, and like I think it just got me. 2588 02:00:17.079 --> 02:00:20.119 And then once it got me. It's very hard to 2589 02:00:20.159 --> 02:00:23.000 wrestle your way out of it. When my circumstances didn't change, 2590 02:00:23.000 --> 02:00:24.279 Like I still had no money, I still had to 2591 02:00:24.319 --> 02:00:27.479 make my startup work. And so then I just got 2592 02:00:27.560 --> 02:00:29.880 deeper and deeper and then like it just kind of 2593 02:00:29.960 --> 02:00:33.000 cascaded into like a really bad shit. So I'm so 2594 02:00:33.079 --> 02:00:34.399 grateful I didn't commit suicide. 2595 02:00:34.520 --> 02:00:38.680 You know, So how much does the you take care 2596 02:00:38.680 --> 02:00:40.880 of yourself so much physically, you have so much information 2597 02:00:41.000 --> 02:00:43.880 about that, how much how much are you able to 2598 02:00:45.319 --> 02:00:47.359 attach your mental to that as well? Or what do 2599 02:00:47.399 --> 02:00:49.600 you notice about the physical mental relationship? 2600 02:00:49.760 --> 02:00:54.840 Yeah? That if when people so right now, if somebody 2601 02:00:55.039 --> 02:00:58.840 is suffering from anxiety, depression or something else, the first 2602 02:00:58.960 --> 02:01:02.159 move mostly is to take a pill, right, get on 2603 02:01:02.279 --> 02:01:06.600 some kind of yeah, and so the first move is 2604 02:01:06.680 --> 02:01:10.279 really to fix your sleep. And the way to fix 2605 02:01:10.279 --> 02:01:12.239 your sleep is to lower your heart rate. Lower the 2606 02:01:12.319 --> 02:01:14.159 heart rate, you have your last meal the day, like 2607 02:01:14.279 --> 02:01:16.840 like do all these different steps. Now, that's not going 2608 02:01:16.920 --> 02:01:20.800 to fix everybody's issues, but having good sleep in place 2609 02:01:21.159 --> 02:01:23.760 is the most powerful thing anybody can do in their 2610 02:01:23.800 --> 02:01:26.199 life on any condition. And then once you have that 2611 02:01:26.279 --> 02:01:29.079 in place, like if you need to look at other options. Cool, 2612 02:01:29.560 --> 02:01:32.079 but most of the time people don't look at the 2613 02:01:32.359 --> 02:01:34.520 very basic things like are you in a bed on time? 2614 02:01:34.800 --> 02:01:36.560 Like when are you eating that last meal? What's your 2615 02:01:36.560 --> 02:01:40.399 heart rate? So I have found that when my body 2616 02:01:40.840 --> 02:01:44.640 is operating well, my mind operates well. It's a very 2617 02:01:44.720 --> 02:01:49.439 symbiotic relationship that you literally are what you consume, you know, 2618 02:01:49.640 --> 02:01:52.680 social media, food, all the above. And so I don't 2619 02:01:52.720 --> 02:01:55.760 talk about mental health as directly. I talk about get 2620 02:01:55.880 --> 02:01:58.720 the basics right and you see the boost and your 2621 02:01:58.760 --> 02:02:01.960 mental

health. Like if I talk entrepreneurs, I'll say in 2622 02:02:02.000 --> 02:02:05.960 the room, like over half of you are in a 2623 02:02:06.199 --> 02:02:11.720 current mental health crisis. And the room always goes dead quiet. 2624 02:02:12.199 --> 02:02:14.520 They know I'm right. I see it in their eyes, right, 2625 02:02:14.680 --> 02:02:17.159 like they had a happy face on, They're like smiling 2626 02:02:17.359 --> 02:02:20.880 like yeah, I got this going on, but inside they're dying. 2627 02:02:21.079 --> 02:02:22.439 Yeah, and you know it. 2628 02:02:22.479 --> 02:02:23.640 You can feel it. And so when I say that, 2629 02:02:23.760 --> 02:02:26.399 and I puncture it, and it's like that's true. Like 2630 02:02:26.520 --> 02:02:31.800 you guys, like it's not good to build a company 2631 02:02:31.920 --> 02:02:34.960 when you're suicidal, right, right, Like no one's winning here, 2632 02:02:35.199 --> 02:02:37.840 So like get your shit together. You can build a 2633 02:02:37.880 --> 02:02:39.680 great company. You can be ambitious, you can be epic 2634 02:02:40.239 --> 02:02:43.319 like sleep and like, so that's really I mean, I 2635 02:02:43.319 --> 02:02:44.800 wish somebody would have been in my life to tell 2636 02:02:44.800 --> 02:02:46.479 me that, Like, hey, man, I see your ambitious, like 2637 02:02:46.560 --> 02:02:47.920 you have big plans for life, but like, let me 2638 02:02:48.039 --> 02:02:49.840 just kind of help you get some basics, right. 2639 02:02:50.000 --> 02:02:52.920 Yeah, having somebody mitigate, having somebody help you set some parameters. 2640 02:02:52.960 --> 02:02:54.800 It's just so hard and it's hard to believe. It's like, 2641 02:02:55.199 --> 02:02:57.000 you know, I remember grinding so hard for a few 2642 02:02:57.039 --> 02:02:59.079 years and I had like a mental breakdown kind of 2643 02:02:59.279 --> 02:03:01.239 like this is about five years ago. I almost literally 2644 02:03:01.319 --> 02:03:04.199 felt something snap in me too. You remember the day 2645 02:03:04.199 --> 02:03:09.079 in that moment, Uh, yeah, I remember, Yeah, I do remember. 2646 02:03:09.119 --> 02:03:11.840 I had some shows that were in they were up 2647 02:03:11.920 --> 02:03:14.720 in California, they were yeah, and I literally had to 2648 02:03:14.760 --> 02:03:15.720 cancel him the day up. 2649 02:03:15.800 --> 02:03:17.239 Yeah, never I do that in my life. 2650 02:03:17.279 --> 02:03:20.479 I said, if I have to walk out there, I 2651 02:03:21.600 --> 02:03:23.399 physically cannot do it anymore. 2652 02:03:23.479 --> 02:03:25.760 Yeah. And the whole time before that, I thought that 2653 02:03:25.840 --> 02:03:27.359 I just wasn't trying hard enough. 2654 02:03:27.439 --> 02:03:30.960 Yeah, one hundred percent. I would mirror your experience. I 2655 02:03:30.960 --> 02:03:31.520 had the same thing. 2656 02:03:31.640 --> 02:03:33.920 Yeah, would you do you have to go to therapy 2657 02:03:34.000 --> 02:03:34.319 or something? 2658

02:03:34.640 --> 02:03:34.680 No. 2659 02:03:34.960 --> 02:03:37.800 I was in the parking lot in orm Utah with 2660 02:03:37.960 --> 02:03:41.239 my brother in a red Saturn, and I said, he 2661 02:03:41.359 --> 02:03:43.399 was my business part of the time, and I said, Jason, 2662 02:03:45.720 --> 02:03:47.640 I was talking to you about like I'm feeling depressed. 2663 02:03:47.680 --> 02:03:50.880 I just like can't quite do things. And in that 2664 02:03:51.079 --> 02:03:55.600 conversation something like snapped, like I almost like physically heard 2665 02:03:55.640 --> 02:03:59.079 a snap. But I'm like me too, something just broke 2666 02:03:59.560 --> 02:04:03.119 in my and my brother was like, just try harder right, 2667 02:04:03.199 --> 02:04:06.600 like he wasn't. I don't think he understood that. If 2668 02:04:06.640 --> 02:04:08.479 you haven't been depressed, you don't know. But like I 2669 02:04:08.600 --> 02:04:11.079 will never ever forget that moment. It was like five 2670 02:04:11.279 --> 02:04:14.520 thirty in the evening, it was just sunsetting, and that 2671 02:04:15.319 --> 02:04:18.079 put me on a ten year long hole. And so, 2672 02:04:18.319 --> 02:04:22.920 like you know, I'm so empathetic to people like it. 2673 02:04:23.119 --> 02:04:25.960 It is so much more common than we talk then, 2674 02:04:26.119 --> 02:04:27.279 like people talk about. 2675 02:04:27.760 --> 02:04:29.680 I do think that, like you said earlier, that when 2676 02:04:29.720 --> 02:04:31.640 you said a lot like you were in that meeting 2677 02:04:31.680 --> 02:04:33.479 and you said a lot of people here are uh 2678 02:04:34.279 --> 02:04:36.880 are struggling or barely holding on. I do think that 2679 02:04:37.039 --> 02:04:39.039 that that kind of thing is the truth that like 2680 02:04:39.840 --> 02:04:43.520 we're all just in this space, we're pretty close to 2681 02:04:43.760 --> 02:04:47.159 exactly we're just holding on. Yeah, that's a much better 2682 02:04:47.159 --> 02:04:48.720 way of saying it. But like, but they we're so 2683 02:04:49.000 --> 02:04:51.560 used to surviving at that space too, you start to 2684 02:04:51.600 --> 02:04:52.760 think that that's supposed. 2685 02:04:52.399 --> 02:04:54.399 To be the norm and it's not exactly right. Yeah, 2686 02:04:54.920 --> 02:04:57.680 it's very real, and like it hurts and it sucks, 2687 02:04:57.720 --> 02:05:00.279 and no safe place to go, Like, who do you 2688 02:05:00.359 --> 02:05:01.760 tell us about? Is it safe? 2689 02:05:01.880 --> 02:05:02.079 Is it not? 2690 02:05:02.199 --> 02:05:04.680 We be penalized? Yeah, so it's a tough and then 2691 02:05:04.760 --> 02:05:06.520 that the world is so brutal on you. You can't 2692 02:05:06.520 --> 02:05:08.760 trust anyone, Everyone's after you. Tough space. 2693 02:05:09.359 --> 02:05:12.199 Yeah, and the truth is probably just say what is 2694 02:05:12.399 --> 02:05:17.039 going on? Yeah, you know, but it's so hard. Well, 2695 02:05:17.159 -->

02:05:19.960 last question with AI. You know AI and things are 2696 02:05:20.359 --> 02:05:22.720 happening so fast and differently. Now, do you think that 2697 02:05:23.039 --> 02:05:29.199 that will have a large effect on on on don't die, 2698 02:05:29.359 --> 02:05:32.199 on how we can live, on the possibility to live 2699 02:05:32.319 --> 02:05:36.880 forever or to have a longer life expectancy, And do 2700 02:05:37.039 --> 02:05:40.159 you use AI with your own data to help create 2701 02:05:40.279 --> 02:05:42.239 any sort of real information? 2702 02:05:42.439 --> 02:05:42.680 Yeah? 2703 02:05:43.279 --> 02:05:45.600 This, Well what a lot of people don't know is 2704 02:05:46.279 --> 02:05:51.359 this entire project I'm doing is about AI. It's not 2705 02:05:51.399 --> 02:05:54.880 about health, and so like what do you mean? Yeah, 2706 02:05:54.960 --> 02:05:58.560 so I did this when I was twenty one years old, 2707 02:05:58.920 --> 02:06:02.800 I had ambition that I wanted to do something that 2708 02:06:02.800 --> 02:06:04.199 would be useful to the human race. 2709 02:06:04.279 --> 02:06:04.680 Like that was. 2710 02:06:05.119 --> 02:06:06.520 I don't know why, but I just like I really 2711 02:06:06.600 --> 02:06:09.159 cared about being useful to humanity. I didn't know what 2712 02:06:09.279 --> 02:06:11.239 to do. I wasn't good at anything. I was kind 2713 02:06:11.279 --> 02:06:13.880 of shitty at most everything. And so I said, Okay, 2714 02:06:13.880 --> 02:06:15.319 I'm going to become an entrepreneur. I'm gonna make a 2715 02:06:15.319 --> 02:06:17.319 whole bunch of money to my age thirty. With money, 2716 02:06:17.359 --> 02:06:19.600 I'm gonna do something epic in the world. And so 2717 02:06:19.920 --> 02:06:22.279 I did that. By thirty four years old, I saw 2718 02:06:22.319 --> 02:06:25.159 my company for three hundred million dollars. But at thirty 2719 02:06:25.199 --> 02:06:28.800 four I was burnt to a crisp. I just smoked, 2720 02:06:29.960 --> 02:06:33.199 and so I needed to recover. And so but then 2721 02:06:33.239 --> 02:06:35.479 I had basically this quite open question like, now I 2722 02:06:35.520 --> 02:06:37.960 have money, what do you do? And so when you 2723 02:06:38.119 --> 02:06:40.760 have basically unlimited optionality in the world. So I spent 2724 02:06:40.920 --> 02:06:43.479 ten years trying to figure that out. And I did 2725 02:06:43.800 --> 02:06:48.600 one thought experiment which really helped bring clarity. Is I 2726 02:06:48.760 --> 02:06:52.880 imagined trans I imagine traveling in time to the year 2727 02:06:52.920 --> 02:06:55.159 twenty five hundred, so a few hundred years into the future, 2728 02:06:55.960 --> 02:06:59.079 and there you are sitting among those that exist, like 2729 02:06:59.159 --> 02:07:01.279 are the human the AI who don't know? But they 2730 02:07:01.760 --> 02:07:05.239 are talking and they're reflecting on the early twenty first century, 2731 02:07:05.279 --> 02:07:09.920 our time, and they're saying, we appreciate Homo sapiens that 2732 02:07:10.159 --> 02:07:12.199 lived in the early twenty fourth century because they did 2733 02:07:12.479 --> 02:07:15.960 blank that allowed intelligence to still exist in the universe. 2734 02:07:16.000 --> 02:07:19.079 What they do like they didn't dessoy themselves. And I 2735 02:07:19.119 --> 02:07:22.199 thought about that question for years. I think they say 2736 02:07:22.239 --> 02:07:26.159 two things. One is they say that's when Homo sapiens 2737 02:07:26.239 --> 02:07:30.520 gave birth to superintelligence. The second thing they say is 2738 02:07:30.640 --> 02:07:33.840 they say the second thing that they'd figured out is 2739 02:07:34.359 --> 02:07:39.880 that they wouldn't die. That they transformed society from a 2740 02:07:39.960 --> 02:07:44.479 culture of die, of like I will pillage you for 2741 02:07:44.600 --> 02:07:47.000 my profit, or I will yold my way to death, 2742 02:07:47.039 --> 02:07:52.079 to exchange for this to existence itself is the highest value. 2743 02:07:52.319 --> 02:07:55.239 There's nothing more valuable than existence. And we will do 2744 02:07:55.479 --> 02:08:00.000 anything to fight for our existence. And so the principle 2745 02:08:00.000 --> 02:08:02.279 as we talked about today of like care, like our 2746 02:08:02.359 --> 02:08:06.560 society would be better off if we really cared for 2747 02:08:06.720 --> 02:08:09.079 each other, if you really could trust each other, like 2748 02:08:09.359 --> 02:08:12.479 genuinely trust. And so what I'm trying to do technically 2749 02:08:12.760 --> 02:08:19.760 is when you it's like pretty technical. Entropy is the 2750 02:08:20.039 --> 02:08:23.039 final boss of the universe. So entropy is the disorder 2751 02:08:23.079 --> 02:08:26.039 of things, the second Lela of thermodynamics. So eventually, like 2752 02:08:26.199 --> 02:08:30.920 a warm cup of coffee goes cold, suns burnout, bodies 2753 02:08:31.000 --> 02:08:35.119 die like things just naturally decay, and so the number 2754 02:08:35.159 --> 02:08:39.479 one enemy of the universe is decay and disorder. And 2755 02:08:39.840 --> 02:08:43.079 life is a rebellion against disorder, like we somehow survive. 2756 02:08:43.680 --> 02:08:45.760 And so what I'm trying to build, like my whole 2757 02:08:45.840 --> 02:08:50.760 goal is to say, as a species, our number one 2758 02:08:50.840 --> 02:08:54.720 goal is to build a new antiin tropic system, like 2759 02:08:54.840 --> 02:08:58.600 a new life system that makes fighting for life then 2760 02:08:58.680 --> 02:09:01.720 number one goal for all things. And you can measure 2761 02:09:02.399 --> 02:09:04.760 entropy or death in all things. You can measure it 2762 02:09:04.840 --> 02:09:06.560 in a physical system, you can measure it in a 2763 02:09:06.560 --> 02:09:10.600 biological system. But you can basically build it computationally. So 2764 02:09:11.079 --> 02:09:13.000 that's

like a whole bunch of stuff. But the goal 2765 02:09:13.159 --> 02:09:17.479 is you can measure death, you can build protections against death. 2766 02:09:18.079 --> 02:09:19.960 You can do it in the body, you can do 2767 02:09:20.039 --> 02:09:23.119 it in physical systems. You can align yourself with a eye. 2768 02:09:23.439 --> 02:09:27.680 It's like it's a new ideology, right that I want 2769 02:09:27.760 --> 02:09:31.039 it to become the fastest growing ideology in human history. 2770 02:09:31.880 --> 02:09:35.960 That it helps you understand existence, and it's competitive with 2771 02:09:36.000 --> 02:09:39.399 any major ideology. So there's like I need like honestly 2772 02:09:39.640 --> 02:09:41.520 sixty minutes to explain it, because I know it's like 2773 02:09:41.960 --> 02:09:44.640 I just jammed it up. But it's basically a new 2774 02:09:44.680 --> 02:09:47.640 way to exist that like reframes our reality. 2775 02:09:48.199 --> 02:09:50.079 Well, I do understand what you're saying in the sense 2776 02:09:50.159 --> 02:09:52.800 that a lot of history people have lived as if 2777 02:09:54.279 --> 02:09:56.720 we die, yeah right, yeah, Okay, one day we die, 2778 02:09:56.880 --> 02:09:59.600 there's an afterlife, you can live forever somewhere else, you 2779 02:09:59.640 --> 02:10:02.359 can live extensively somewhere else. But then to have this 2780 02:10:02.840 --> 02:10:08.199 concept and to really live as if don't die, yes, 2781 02:10:08.760 --> 02:10:09.800 then now how do you live? 2782 02:10:10.039 --> 02:10:10.199 Yes? 2783 02:10:10.520 --> 02:10:10.640 Right? 2784 02:10:10.880 --> 02:10:13.800 And that's a whole reframing of things exactly right, right, 2785 02:10:14.039 --> 02:10:17.239 But I do understand that that once you reframe it, 2786 02:10:17.319 --> 02:10:21.520 it's like, oh wow, well a lot more of Yeah, 2787 02:10:21.720 --> 02:10:26.239 if the afterlife or a lot of it can be here, yes, exactly, 2788 02:10:26.560 --> 02:10:30.880 then what rules change for me? What rules change in 2789 02:10:30.960 --> 02:10:34.520 the world, and how does it affect how I play 2790 02:10:34.560 --> 02:10:37.119 the game? Really exactly right? And like the thingacles don't 2791 02:10:37.159 --> 02:10:40.479 die is that you can be Christian and don't die. 2792 02:10:40.800 --> 02:10:42.640 You can be Muslim and don't die. You can be 2793 02:10:42.720 --> 02:10:44.920 capitalist and don't die. You can be anything and don't die. 2794 02:10:44.920 --> 02:10:49.399 Because don't die just says nobody wants to die right now. 2795 02:10:49.920 --> 02:10:51.800 It says nothing about five years from now or twenty 2796 02:10:51.880 --> 02:10:55.960 years from now. The single thing that every human agrees 2797 02:10:55.960 --> 02:10:59.479 to in this moment one thing. Nobody wants to die 2798 02:10:59.560 --> 02:10:59.840 right now. 2799 02:11:00.079 --> 02:11:00.319 That's it. 2800 02:11:00.880 --> 02:11:03.479 After that, there's no agreement on anything. And so if 2801 02:11:03.520 --> 02:11:06.560 you build artificial superintelligence, you're like, what do you do 2802 02:11:06.640 --> 02:11:09.039 with it? It's like, help me make more money, help 2803 02:11:09.119 --> 02:11:11.399 me become better at war, Like help me acquire more power. 2804 02:11:11.840 --> 02:11:14.760 Like what I'm saying is the obvious answer. We say 2805 02:11:14.760 --> 02:11:19.239 to AI. We want to exist, right that's our goal. 2806 02:11:19.800 --> 02:11:21.960 We don't want to destroy ourselves. We don't want to 2807 02:11:22.000 --> 02:11:24.560 die individually. This is not saying we want immortality. It's 2808 02:11:24.560 --> 02:11:26.920 saying we don't want to die right now. So you're 2809 02:11:26.920 --> 02:11:30.039 trying to basically just get a peace accord with all 2810 02:11:30.119 --> 02:11:33.319 humans and all AI and say, can we just strike 2811 02:11:33.479 --> 02:11:37.920 a deal where we have the right to exist. It's 2812 02:11:37.960 --> 02:11:41.119 like the United States said, like, you know, life living 2813 02:11:41.159 --> 02:11:45.079 in the pursuit of happiness. The New Constitution for our 2814 02:11:45.159 --> 02:11:48.960 new species is the right to exist. And that's what 2815 02:11:49.000 --> 02:11:51.399 this whole thing's about. It's just like the very basic 2816 02:11:51.800 --> 02:11:55.279 primal desire. I want to take one more. 2817 02:11:55.199 --> 02:11:59.800 Breath because we've almost grandfathered ourselves into this that we don't. 2818 02:11:59.760 --> 02:12:00.479 That we can't. 2819 02:12:00.920 --> 02:12:04.560 Yeah, that's right exactly. It's like if you don't state 2820 02:12:04.600 --> 02:12:07.479 that as the objective, right, then you pointed a profit. 2821 02:12:07.560 --> 02:12:10.359 And if you pointed a profit, you inevitably like have 2822 02:12:10.560 --> 02:12:13.239 the temptation of saying, I'm going to take your life 2823 02:12:13.960 --> 02:12:16.359 for my profit. I'm gonna give you food that poisons 2824 02:12:16.359 --> 02:12:17.159 you but makes me money. 2825 02:12:17.199 --> 02:12:18.199 It feels like where we're at now. 2826 02:12:18.279 --> 02:12:20.199 Yeah, it feels like we're definitely part of a Uh 2827 02:12:20.640 --> 02:12:22.319 you go all right, I'll give you this, then you hear, 2828 02:12:22.399 --> 02:12:24.319 then you spend there, and then you go to but. 2829 02:12:26.279 --> 02:12:29.239 Brian Johnson, thanks so much man, love it great, bro. 2830 02:12:29.439 --> 02:12:30.199 It was so much fun. 2831 02:12:30.359 --> 02:12:32.239 Yeah, this is it super interesting man. 2832 02:12:32.720 --> 02:12:35.199 Can you can you imagine now a stand up act 2833 02:12:35.239 --> 02:12:36.039 that would just rip me? 2834 02:12:37.520 --> 02:12:37.720 Yeah? 2835 02:12:37.800 --> 02:12:39.760 Well I think, I mean I think I could think 2836 02:12:39.800 --> 02:12:41.279 of a couple of things. I could think one, you 2837 02:12:41.399

--> 02:12:43.199 being on a great roast over there, and that's one 2838 02:12:43.239 --> 02:12:45.800 thing they do at kill Tony they roast everybody, roast everybody, 2839 02:12:45.840 --> 02:12:47.960 so it's like this thing you're just part of the universe, 2840 02:12:48.079 --> 02:12:52.720 you know. And then I could think of a yeah, 2841 02:12:52.840 --> 02:12:54.800 of a great if, like if there was like a 2842 02:12:54.920 --> 02:12:56.479 dope roast and you were one of the people on that, 2843 02:12:56.520 --> 02:12:58.920 people would have the best joke. Yeah, I bet it 2844 02:12:59.039 --> 02:13:00.560 just adds a lot of fun. So I appreciate you 2845 02:13:00.560 --> 02:13:02.760 having a sense of humor about it. What are the 2846 02:13:03.159 --> 02:13:04.680 what is a cheat day? Like, do you ever just 2847 02:13:04.840 --> 02:13:06.800 want to unwind? I did see you had a photo 2848 02:13:06.880 --> 02:13:09.000 of like the fourth like a fourth meal or something 2849 02:13:09.199 --> 02:13:12.520 you had that was on social media the other day. 2850 02:13:13.079 --> 02:13:14.960 There you are just geeked out right there. 2851 02:13:15.720 --> 02:13:18.600 Yeah, I'm trolling there, Okay, got it. 2852 02:13:18.680 --> 02:13:19.680 Yes, there's some tac about this. 2853 02:13:20.680 --> 02:13:23.039 Like I said, decided to live a little because, like 2854 02:13:23.960 --> 02:13:25.720 you know, like it's funny because people are always like, 2855 02:13:25.760 --> 02:13:28.760 bro live a little, but what they're saying is I 2856 02:13:28.920 --> 02:13:31.319 want you to die right to show me you're live, 2857 02:13:32.079 --> 02:13:33.760 and so like right, it's just like it's fun. 2858 02:13:34.239 --> 02:13:35.680 It's kind of true. Live a little. 2859 02:13:36.359 --> 02:13:39.880 In some ways we look at it, especially diet dietitian 2860 02:13:40.079 --> 02:13:44.319 dietetically or whatever we're saying, yeah, man, die, you know. 2861 02:13:44.720 --> 02:13:47.560 Yeah, take the take the you know, die some Yeah, 2862 02:13:47.600 --> 02:13:49.399 they want me to die. So I just I like 2863 02:13:49.479 --> 02:13:51.520 all things. I really enjoy playing. People have a lot 2864 02:13:51.520 --> 02:13:53.520 of fun with me as well. Yeah, but yeah, like 2865 02:13:53.720 --> 02:13:56.800 you know, the funny thing is the cheat day thing, Man, 2866 02:13:57.039 --> 02:13:57.840 I don't want to do it. 2867 02:13:58.199 --> 02:13:59.600 Wow, if you got in the pot where you don't 2868 02:13:59.600 --> 02:14:01.399 want to do it, is it always like. 2869 02:14:01.439 --> 02:14:03.239 That or no, just got there. Like the past couple 2870 02:14:03.239 --> 02:14:04.880 of years, it took me like one hundred reps. 2871 02:14:05.000 --> 02:14:05.439 Like you do it. 2872 02:14:05.479 --> 02:14:08.399 You're like, I'm I'm gonna do it and be fun, 2873 02:14:08.520 --> 02:14:11.479 and then it happens. You're like, goddamn, it's so worse. 2874 02:14:11.640 --> 02:14:14.159 It's never worth it. It's so I learned a lesson. 2875 02:14:14.560 --> 02:14:17.399 It's never ever, ever, ever, ever ever ever ever worth it. 2876 02:14:17.920 --> 02:14:19.479 It just doesn't Like I don't know of a situation 2877 02:14:19.560 --> 02:14:21.920 where I did something. I'm like, yeah, you know what now, 2878 02:14:22.000 --> 02:14:23.840 like when I did when I stayed, when I went 2879 02:14:23.880 --> 02:14:26.479 to bed early, went to the rave in the mid 2880 02:14:26.600 --> 02:14:28.760 of the night, I got to dance worth it? 2881 02:14:29.079 --> 02:14:29.199 Right? 2882 02:14:29.760 --> 02:14:32.760 But like you know, fast food meal. Like, so my 2883 02:14:32.800 --> 02:14:35.800 team right now is were they're they're trying to convince 2884 02:14:35.880 --> 02:14:38.520 me to get drunk on a live stream as an experiment, 2885 02:14:39.239 --> 02:14:41.800 So like what does alcohol do to the body, So 2886 02:14:41.920 --> 02:14:43.920 we do the same thing. We'd measure all the markers, 2887 02:14:44.000 --> 02:14:46.600 we look at my impairment. So like if I were 2888 02:14:46.840 --> 02:14:48.680 I would an experiment like that. But otherwise, like just 2889 02:14:48.800 --> 02:14:51.039 have fun. Like no, man, it's it's miserable. 2890 02:14:51.760 --> 02:14:52.159 I hate it. 2891 02:14:52.800 --> 02:14:54.680 Has this challenged your faith? Has any of the uh 2892 02:14:54.920 --> 02:14:57.960 has it challenged? Which you where your faith lies? I 2893 02:14:58.079 --> 02:15:00.560 know because you grew up in a Mormon communities, right, yeah? 2894 02:15:00.800 --> 02:15:04.000 And has it challenged, which I think is a great 2895 02:15:04.000 --> 02:15:08.439 community by the way, Yeah, has any of your practices challenged, 2896 02:15:08.479 --> 02:15:11.439 any of your beliefs or your relationship with that community? 2897 02:15:11.520 --> 02:15:14.159 Yeah, I I I joke with my my Mormon friends, 2898 02:15:14.199 --> 02:15:16.720 I'm a better Mormon than they are. I'm I'm like 2899 02:15:16.800 --> 02:15:20.119 the best Mormon, you know, like, uh, you know, because 2900 02:15:21.840 --> 02:15:23.800 sugar is the currency in the Mormons. Like you can't 2901 02:15:23.960 --> 02:15:26.159 do there's not pre mertal sex, you can't do porn, 2902 02:15:26.319 --> 02:15:28.760 like there's all a bunch of doo. You can't drink coffee. Yeah, right, 2903 02:15:28.840 --> 02:15:31.479 so when you have like a whole bunch of nose, like, 2904 02:15:31.680 --> 02:15:35.159 it's gotta go somewhere. So sugar is like the escape route. 2905 02:15:35.760 --> 02:15:39.039 And so yeah, exactly, so I didn't mess around with them. 2906 02:15:39.079 --> 02:15:42.319 But like, the thing is, like the for me, the 2907 02:15:42.520 --> 02:15:46.880 whole in the world is that we're in this wacky 2908 02:15:46.960 --> 02:15:51.319 situation where we're conscious in the universe, Like what the 2909 02:15:51.439 --> 02:15:52.159 fuck is going

on? 2910 02:15:52.920 --> 02:15:54.640 It's talk about it every day. 2911 02:15:54.720 --> 02:15:57.479 It's so bizarre, and so then like given the bizarreness, 2912 02:15:58.479 --> 02:16:01.560 there's all these ways of being like let me explain 2913 02:16:01.640 --> 02:16:04.680 the situation, right, like but like I don't know. I'm 2914 02:16:05.000 --> 02:16:07.720 more of the opinion of like how do we know? Right? 2915 02:16:07.880 --> 02:16:10.199 What are we talking about? And so like, But then 2916 02:16:10.800 --> 02:16:13.359 if you say, like who says they don't know, it's 2917 02:16:13.439 --> 02:16:15.399 a very very very small number of people whos in 2918 02:16:15.600 --> 02:16:17.479 like atheists and they don't know. But that's kind of 2919 02:16:17.560 --> 02:16:19.680 like a defeatist mentality. It's like we don't know, but 2920 02:16:19.800 --> 02:16:23.079 like whatever, It's like what's missing in the world is 2921 02:16:23.119 --> 02:16:26.920 an ideology that's like we don't really know and we 2922 02:16:27.039 --> 02:16:30.239 have gusto. Like what because when you're in a religion, 2923 02:16:31.319 --> 02:16:33.719 like you've got gusto to serve God and to like 2924 02:16:33.879 --> 02:16:35.959 do you know by the commandments? And like, but like 2925 02:16:36.079 --> 02:16:37.879 where does an ideology that couples up I don't know 2926 02:16:38.000 --> 02:16:40.440 and has gusto and that's what's missing the world. That's 2927 02:16:40.479 --> 02:16:42.680 what I found is like you you can intellectually be 2928 02:16:42.799 --> 02:16:45.840 like legit pretty hard to know what's going on. Also, 2929 02:16:46.440 --> 02:16:49.559 like we can stand up, we can like we have 2930 02:16:50.120 --> 02:16:53.639 power right now, like it wasn't before AI. You're doomed, 2931 02:16:53.760 --> 02:16:55.719 Like no matter what you said, you're off to death. 2932 02:16:56.680 --> 02:17:00.319 With AI. This is the first time ever a human 2933 02:17:00.360 --> 02:17:02.000 could be like you know what, I got a strut 2934 02:17:02.639 --> 02:17:04.159 like I'm gonna pull my chest out and like I 2935 02:17:04.280 --> 02:17:06.760 feel I feel confident I can do something, and so 2936 02:17:06.920 --> 02:17:08.719 like we're at this brand new thing. And that's what 2937 02:17:08.719 --> 02:17:11.360 I'm saying, Like this moment is why you think about that? 2938 02:17:11.479 --> 02:17:14.639 Just because the the ability that the average person can have. Now, yeah, 2939 02:17:14.719 --> 02:17:16.360 like I mean you look at AI. 2940 02:17:17.520 --> 02:17:17.879 I mean like. 2941 02:17:20.520 --> 02:17:25.959 You basically are giving birth to God, right like like 2942 02:17:26.040 --> 02:17:27.760 we when we talk about God, if we say, like 2943 02:17:27.840 --> 02:17:31.879 God is omnipotent, right, omnipotent God is blank by blank, 2944 02:17:31.879 --> 02:17:35.319 Like we basically assign these powers of like anything, and 2945 02:17:35.520

--> 02:17:39.239 on some kind of timescale. AI is kind of that, 2946 02:17:39.920 --> 02:17:42.840 like when it's that and how it's that like TBD, 2947 02:17:43.360 --> 02:17:46.479 but it's like generally that and so when you actually 2948 02:17:47.079 --> 02:17:51.120 have like the potential of building like billions of gods 2949 02:17:51.479 --> 02:17:55.040 or god like powers of like we've imagined, Like, why 2950 02:17:55.079 --> 02:17:58.040 wouldn't you immediately level up your your ambition by like 2951 02:17:58.159 --> 02:17:59.639 a thousand x right. 2952 02:17:59.600 --> 02:18:04.559 Because you're you're taking some of the more practical possibilities 2953 02:18:04.600 --> 02:18:08.280 of God and making them more usable to the everyday person. Exactly, 2954 02:18:08.399 --> 02:18:11.319 You're still not able to replicate like a relationship that 2955 02:18:11.639 --> 02:18:13.840 is like spiritual in nature. 2956 02:18:13.879 --> 02:18:15.079 Though, do you think why not? 2957 02:18:15.479 --> 02:18:18.000 I mean, it's just a biochemical reaction, right, I. 2958 02:18:18.000 --> 02:18:20.040 Don't know if you think somebody just messaging with like 2959 02:18:20.120 --> 02:18:21.959 a fictional thing is going to make them feel the 2960 02:18:22.000 --> 02:18:23.760 same way as if they feel like there's some connection 2961 02:18:23.879 --> 02:18:28.479 to us to an actual, like molecular existing. 2962 02:18:28.840 --> 02:18:29.639 Force in the world. 2963 02:18:29.799 --> 02:18:32.319 I do I think that basically you think it's the 2964 02:18:32.360 --> 02:18:36.479 same Basically when so you are seventy trillion sales when 2965 02:18:36.520 --> 02:18:43.000 theovon experiences love or God or like, take what everything 2966 02:18:43.680 --> 02:18:46.040 that is a biochemical pattern? 2967 02:18:46.280 --> 02:18:46.559 Got it? 2968 02:18:47.479 --> 02:18:52.479 And you can produce it with prayer, with psychedelics, with meditation, 2969 02:18:53.120 --> 02:18:55.920 with sex, right, Like, there's so many ways to replicate 2970 02:18:56.000 --> 02:18:59.520 these experiences. So like if AI is able to develop 2971 02:18:59.639 --> 02:19:02.360 drugs and or experiences, and or if we have implants 2972 02:19:02.440 --> 02:19:04.959 and or like you can you can basically just map 2973 02:19:05.040 --> 02:19:09.920 it back. It's very hard to identify an emergent experience 2974 02:19:09.959 --> 02:19:12.079 we have right now and not be able to pull 2975 02:19:12.120 --> 02:19:16.000 back the curtain and say, here's what happened biochemically. Now, 2976 02:19:16.079 --> 02:19:19.920 like I'm open to other ways to explain the world 2977 02:19:20.040 --> 02:19:22.760 that you can't find a biochemical scinction for totally open 2978 02:19:22.799 --> 02:19:25.719 to that. But like in my experience everything I am, 2979 02:19:26.200 --> 02:19:28.280 I can see the data like it is a very 2980 02:19:28.399 --> 02:19:31.799 clear reveal. And so yeah,

will humans be able to 2981 02:19:31.920 --> 02:19:38.280 experience transcendence and you know, unconditional love and extreme fulfillment 2982 02:19:38.360 --> 02:19:42.239 of purpose and like locked in engagement, yes, like all 2983 02:19:42.280 --> 02:19:46.079 those things, and so I actually I'm very friendly towards 2984 02:19:46.159 --> 02:19:48.799 religions like no matter who you are, no matter what 2985 02:19:48.879 --> 02:19:52.559 you believe in great right like don't die is something 2986 02:19:52.600 --> 02:19:54.760 we can all agree to, and so like if someone 2987 02:19:54.840 --> 02:19:57.719 says they believe in afterlife, super like you can still 2988 02:19:57.760 --> 02:20:00.440 have your afterlife. This is not taken away your after life. 2989 02:20:00.719 --> 02:20:02.239 This is just saying like, right now we want to 2990 02:20:02.239 --> 02:20:04.879 cooperate because we love the game of life. If that 2991 02:20:04.959 --> 02:20:07.399 means you want to procrastinate your afterlife for another one 2992 02:20:07.440 --> 02:20:09.399 hundred years, it's still gonna be there for you, like 2993 02:20:09.440 --> 02:20:12.680 it's not going away. So it's really about trying to strike. 2994 02:20:12.760 --> 02:20:14.920 So it's the same thing about food. Like I'm not 2995 02:20:15.440 --> 02:20:18.879 carnivore or vegan or palea or whatever. I'm not anti religion, 2996 02:20:18.920 --> 02:20:22.000 I'm not for I'm just like we're all good, like everyone, 2997 02:20:22.200 --> 02:20:25.239 We're all good. We can be together, we can like 2998 02:20:25.600 --> 02:20:27.639 play the game together. We don't need to fight each other. 2999 02:20:28.040 --> 02:20:29.319 No one needs to be right or wrong. We just 3000 02:20:29.360 --> 02:20:32.040 want to agree that existence is awesome. So that's like 3001 02:20:32.319 --> 02:20:34.600 just trying to call peace of all intelligence. Let's not fight, 3002 02:20:34.879 --> 02:20:37.559 no more killing. It should be cool, amen, man. 3003 02:20:37.680 --> 02:20:40.239 Because I wonder sometimes if like when when kids interact 3004 02:20:40.280 --> 02:20:41.879 with a I and stuff like that, dude, they feel 3005 02:20:41.959 --> 02:20:44.440 like it's like the same as if I feel if 3006 02:20:44.440 --> 02:20:47.000 I'm interacting with a real person, you know, because yeah, 3007 02:20:47.000 --> 02:20:48.520 I just don't know if you could ever get that huh, 3008 02:20:48.600 --> 02:20:52.159 you know, that kind of hug feeling of like of 3009 02:20:52.280 --> 02:20:54.319 your god, whoever your god is, or something. I wonder 3010 02:20:54.319 --> 02:20:56.799 if you could ever get that hug feeling if like 3011 02:20:56.959 --> 02:21:01.840 something that was yeah, like man made or synthetic kind 3012 02:21:01.879 --> 02:21:04.680 of hypothetically synthetic with would ever be the same. But 3013 02:21:05.200 --> 02:21:09.360 I mean, I think it's all interesting conversation. And and look, man, 3014 02:21:09.399 --> 02:21:11.440 you're out there on the front lines. You're like the 3015 02:21:11.600 --> 02:21:14.479 only one in your in this war, like you're like 3016 02:21:14.559 --> 02:21:18.959 your own Vietnam dude out you know. So it's really 3017 02:21:19.040 --> 02:21:23.680 cool and I really appreciate your time. Man, Tell tow Lee, 3018 02:21:23.760 --> 02:21:28.440 tell tal Muche. We said what's up? And yeah, and 3019 02:21:28.520 --> 02:21:31.120 Brian Johnson, thanks so much, dude. I'm gonna grab some 3020 02:21:31.200 --> 02:21:32.479 of that olive will. I do want to get some 3021 02:21:32.639 --> 02:21:33.680 of it, and uh. 3022 02:21:33.920 --> 02:21:34.920 I'll say i'll send you something. 3023 02:21:35.319 --> 02:21:37.760 Well I'll support man, But thank you. But thank you 3024 02:21:37.840 --> 02:21:39.360 even for coming, dude and just sharing a lot of 3025 02:21:39.639 --> 02:21:41.760 this with us. I think it's not just uh it's 3026 02:21:41.840 --> 02:21:46.040 not just about milligrams in this and but it's kind 3027 02:21:46.079 --> 02:21:48.399 of like a life idea and it's a change of perspective. 3028 02:21:48.760 --> 02:21:51.159 Yeah, you know, so I understand it. 3029 02:21:51.239 --> 02:21:52.719 Yeah. I love hanging it out man. It was really 3030 02:21:52.760 --> 02:21:53.600 fun me too. Bro. 3031 02:21:53.719 --> 02:21:55.360 I know you said we saw each other at the UFC. 3032 02:21:55.760 --> 02:21:58.200 I remember now seeing your face for a second. Yeah, 3033 02:21:58.559 --> 02:22:00.760 and uh, but I'm glad to again. We'll have to 3034 02:22:00.799 --> 02:22:01.319 get to one soon. 3035 02:22:01.479 --> 02:22:02.799 Yeah. Cool, all right, thank you, brother. 3036 02:22:03.520 --> 02:22:06.799 I'm just falling on the breeze, and I feel I'm 3037 02:22:06.959 --> 02:22:15.200 falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone, but when 3038 02:22:15.280 --> 02:22:18.639 I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind 3039 02:22:18.760 --> 02:22:24.120 by foul. I can see it in my falls, so 3040 02:22:24.319 --> 02:22:25.399 it's gonna tage