Transcription complète de 136. She Made Her Wedding Dress… Out of Bedsheets! w/ Gracie Songer

actually should know each other in Utah. 01:58.943 --> 02:02.864 [SPEAKER_01]: And then I actually knew I was gonna marry him from when I first met him. 02:02.944 --> 02:04.824 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not even a woo-woo person like that. 02:04.844 --> 02:08.205 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I just had that feeling of familiarity. 02:09.745 --> 02:25.857 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's how we met and I was just like in love with him ever since and that was like Late 2020 so okay my gosh, so then you guys were dating for a while That's crazy that you met in this like super small town You didn't even let like neither of you lived there and you 02:26.517 --> 02:26.897 [SPEAKER_00]: I know. 02:26.957 --> 02:27.838 [SPEAKER_00]: Pretty close to each other. 02:27.878 --> 02:38.463 [SPEAKER_01]: And we always see, like, would there have ever been any crossover, like, would we have ever been able to meet, like, did your sister, like, know someone that I not, like, would there have ever been another time that we would have met in life? 02:38.543 --> 02:39.203 [SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't know. 02:39.223 --> 02:39.864 [SPEAKER_01]: Got a creepy. 02:39.884 --> 02:41.104 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't. 02:41.344 --> 02:42.285 [SPEAKER_01]: So crazy. 02:42.305 --> 02:43.025 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh. 02:43.065 --> 02:44.546 [SPEAKER_00]: So that was back in 2020. 02:44.666 --> 02:45.166 [SPEAKER_00]: And then, yeah. 02:45.286 --> 02:51.389 [SPEAKER_00]: Guys, start dating pretty seriously, and then let's move on to the proposal. 02:51.469 --> 02:54.611 [SPEAKER_00]: So how did he end up asking to marry you? 02:56.312 --> 03:02.776 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I'm a pretty creative person and he came up with something that I don't even think I could have ever come up with. 03:02.816 --> 03:09.140 [SPEAKER_01]: So this is just how I know he truly loves me because it's just the most creative, perfect, meaningful proposal. 03:09.220 --> 03:11.081 [SPEAKER_01]: So my dad is a fine artist. 03:11.121 --> 03:13.002 [SPEAKER_01]: Actually a lot of people like family or a fine artist. 03:13.042 --> 03:21.347 [SPEAKER_01]: But he has this gallery that he's in in Park City that I've spent like my whole life growing up, like going to art shows at this gallery, you know, I just like know everyone there. 03:22.668 --> 03:39.318 [SPEAKER_01]: My dad reaches out and he's a kid having another art show like this Friday if you guys can come and like I was in such a busy place in life I was like oh my gosh, I'm so sorry dad like I don't think we can go and he's like okay I'd just like see if you guys want to come my dad was playing it totally cool But basically my my husband then fiance had 03:40.279 --> 03:51.730 [SPEAKER_01]: gotten with my parents, got in with my dad, got in with my sister, and I want to propose at a fake art show at that gallery, and so he had my mom, my dad, and my sister all collaborate on this painting. 03:52.171 --> 04:00.739 [SPEAKER_01]: I actually have it, but it's not hung up, but it's a big huge orange painting that says Mary Me and like a great, like Gothic font, it's a giving very fairy tale, like vintage Disney vibes. 04:01.480 --> 04:05.042 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I was, we were so busy and I didn't want to go to this art show. 04:05.102 --> 04:08.263 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm by my friends like, oh well, you know, like we should go support your dad. 04:08.303 --> 04:09.243 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh, you're right. 04:09.263 --> 04:10.724 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it's a terrible lot or like, let's go. 04:10.964 --> 04:13.445 [SPEAKER_01]: And it was crazy because no one was like, oh, you should really go. 04:13.465 --> 04:16.847 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was just like, you know, I was me feeling like the daughter get like, all right, let's go. 04:17.667 --> 04:22.528 [SPEAKER_01]: And so we walk into the art show and it's just like very normal, but I'm like not seeing any of my dad's art And I'm like, oh, this is weird. 04:22.548 --> 04:45.272 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh, his art is like in the basement this time and I was like, oh, that's interesting But I genuinely didn't suspect anything and I do have to shout out my friend because she was trying so hard for me to get my nails done And I was doing everything in my power to not get my nails done for some because I just got all the stuff to do my own nails I was like, no, I don't want to get like acrylics on because I just got all the stuff and she was like, fuck, like I just get your nails done Like how about a clear coat like anything and I had the worst nails anyway 04:46.388 --> 04:48.209 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't suspect anything, which is crazy. 04:48.229 --> 04:53.611 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you think if your friends like trying to get you to get your nails done, you're like, some flags in your mind, but no, seriously nothing. 04:53.931 --> 04:58.993 [SPEAKER_01]: And I am the nozius person, like they had to use cold words for everything in text, because they know. 04:59.073 --> 05:01.494 [SPEAKER_01]: They know I'm nozius, they know I search through everything. 05:01.874 --> 05:06.856 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I want downstairs and there's all these paintings lined up and one has a sheet over it. 05:06.876 --> 05:09.176 [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, oh, we're going to do a painting and vailing, painting and vailing. 05:09.537 --> 05:12.738 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, this is interesting, like, but you know, like some eccentric, 05:13.798 --> 05:36.452 [SPEAKER_01]: Receptionist art receptionist people like that made cut like kind of sense for who they were so go Okay, yeah, maybe that was time and my sister pulls up her phone and I'm like oh, yeah Like why not like let's record and my dad goes up and unveils this painting that says marry me on it And I'm like wait what and I turn and my fiance's like pulling me forward and Proposes and it was great because my whole family was there and that's pretty typical for the art show So I didn't suspect anything. 05:36.512 -->

05:37.333 [SPEAKER_01]: It was the perfect 05:38.093 --> 06:04.623 [SPEAKER_01]: Perfectly opposed like the art element and the family was there and I'd grown up going to that gallery and now we get to keep that painting forever And yeah, it was literally the best proposal that could have ever happened I don't think anything will ever top it at least for like my personal life that was the best proposal that could have ever happened Oh my gosh that is so cool like he truly thought about like all the meaningful moments like and what you love and what your family loves and like what's important You guys as a couple like 06:05.185 --> 06:22.552 [SPEAKER_00]: And incorporated it all in like what a great idea and like how cool that like even with the unveiling it like kind of brought it up to this like climax moment of like what's going to happen next and then it's just like seriously all the slides on you that and you're just like what 06:22.992 --> 06:24.394 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's so awesome. 06:24.554 --> 06:24.974 [SPEAKER_01]: I love it. 06:24.994 --> 06:26.116 [SPEAKER_01]: It was insane. 06:26.136 --> 06:32.002 [SPEAKER_01]: I did not suspect a thing which is crazy for how many like signs there should have been They pulled it off perfect. 06:32.062 --> 06:40.631 [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone pulled it off perfect and so many people were involved in it Which is just like my dream to be surprised because I'm so hard to surprise Yes, totally. 06:40.751 --> 06:43.534 [SPEAKER_00]: I know that's so perfect love it so much 06:44.237 --> 06:55.201 [SPEAKER_00]: So, okay, the you got engaged and then, I mean, you start planning your wedding, I assume, when you start looking at wedding dresses. 06:55.621 --> 06:55.921 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 06:56.341 --> 07:10.346 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you go into this thinking, I'm going to make my own wedding dress or were you kind of thinking of doing it the traditional route and purchasing from a boutique or vintage shop or something like that? 07:10.786 --> 07:11.166 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 07:11.346 --> 07:13.568 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, because there's so many options out there. 07:13.628 --> 07:20.171 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I always knew I wanted to do some different and you know, culture and Utah is just like, everyone's getting married. 07:20.231 --> 07:23.813 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, everyone is getting married at like 12 years old, 20 years old. 07:23.853 --> 07:24.533 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what I mean? 07:24.553 --> 07:27.534 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, you've seen so many dresses your whole life. 07:27.815 --> 07:33.898 [SPEAKER_01]: And I always really wanted to have like the dress try on experience because I think that's like just very what you imagine. 07:33.938 --> 07:36.139 [SPEAKER_01]: You think about your wedding dress like trying on dresses. 07:36.779 --> 07:45.344 [SPEAKER_01]: But I knew from the start that it was going to have to be custom or different or I just knew I had to be different in some way. 07:45.364 --> 07:47.145 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it wasn't going to be an off the rack dress. 07:47.185 --> 07:49.286 [SPEAKER_01]: Like however that meant I was getting there. 07:49.326 --> 07:51.767 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I just knew it was not going to be okay. 07:51.807 --> 07:52.368 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a dress. 07:52.388 --> 07:52.648 [SPEAKER_01]: Perfect. 07:52.668 --> 07:53.268 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me take it. 07:53.448 --> 07:54.209 [SPEAKER_01]: If that makes sense. 07:54.889 --> 07:58.011 [SPEAKER_01]: And my mom actually she growing up. 07:58.071 --> 08:00.092 [SPEAKER_01]: She sewed all of her Halloween costumes. 08:00.172 --> 08:01.413 [SPEAKER_01]: And like it was nothing too crazy. 08:01.433 --> 08:02.954 [SPEAKER_01]: But like she knew how to sew, you know? 08:03.554 --> 08:04.875 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I just figured. 08:05.675 --> 08:20.994 [SPEAKER_01]: Can you make a simple dress and I was trying to also make the design in my mind and let me know if I'm getting too far ahead, but the design in my mind is something that's super like eccentric patchworky like imperfectly perfect because I knew like it's not going to be. 08:22.182 --> 08:32.292 [SPEAKER_01]: some couture crazy dress like if my mom's just gonna make it, but I feel like let's lean into that and let's make it that like perfectly imperfect vibes spoiler, it didn't end up being extremely couture. 08:32.312 --> 08:39.158 [SPEAKER_01]: She like somehow did her big deal with this one, but that's basically that little story right there Oh my gosh, yeah, okay, so that's cool. 08:39.178 --> 08:41.180 [SPEAKER_00]: So you went into it knowing that like, 08:41.775 --> 08:49.638 [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't want something somebody else already had like if you did buy it off the rack like you would have customized it in a different way. 08:49.718 --> 09:09.624 [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe it didn't exactly look like the dress that you would initially purchase like you wanted your dress to be like totally uniquely you so custom was your option here yes no matter what for sure if it was starting from scratch or if you kind of had a base to work off of okay. 09:10.695 --> 09:11.316 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh. 09:11.697 --> 09:16.424 [SPEAKER_00]: So you and your mom created this out of bed sheets. 09:16.504 --> 09:25.096 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, tell me how that even went from like, yes, let's make a dress to like, here's some bed sheets, let's make it out of that. 09:25.897 --> 09:26.678 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so great. 09:26.778 --> 09:35.382 [SPEAKER_01]: It's actually like, and for some, like, I swear I'm not woo-woo, but for some reason, like, important things in my life do just have, like, crazy coincidences. 09:35.582 --> 09:42.085 [SPEAKER_01]: And so when we went into this process, like, I just had this vision of the dress, like, I knew what I wanted it to look like and feel like. 09:42.905 --> 09:47.808 [SPEAKER_01]: And I kept describing her and I just feel like I want it because she's like, well, do you want

a tasslet? 09:47.948 --> 09:51.190 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you want a silk, satin, what kind of fabric do you see being? 09:51.210 --> 09:53.971 [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know, I don't want a super formal fabric. 09:54.512 --> 09:56.573 [SPEAKER_01]: I want it to be super light and pillowy. 09:56.593 --> 10:00.175 [SPEAKER_01]: And I kept just saying, like, bedsheets, like bedsheets to describe it. 10:00.195 --> 10:02.496 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I swear it's just like caught in bedsheet. 10:02.516 --> 10:03.797 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know too much about fabric. 10:03.817 --> 10:07.819 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I swear when I move a sheet, that's what I want my dress to be doing. 10:07.859 --> 10:11.221 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what can get like pillowy and crunchy and it makes those cool little, like, 10:11.681 --> 10:28.855 [SPEAKER_01]: folds and and she's like I just don't know like what you're described because she just in her head was like there's no way she actually means that so she's like we got to like figure out this like perfect cotton like fabric and you know fabric stores don't really exist anymore so it's all like the second hand like people I have to shout out salvage and so on 10:29.656 --> 10:52.953 [SPEAKER_01]: Inboundable, it's this woman who just like works out of her garage and she collects all of this like fabric and you can go in and it's like the only fabric store basically there's like three locally on fabric stores and all of you taught so that like is already making it hard and we're like talking with her getting her advice and she's like yeah you could go to like the fabric like markets in LA or something and we're like oh my gosh, this is like 10:53.753 --> 10:57.318 [SPEAKER_01]: kind of becoming this huge thing and it felt a little like desperate for a minute. 10:57.398 --> 11:10.295 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and her store was great because we got all these like cool reclaimed fabrics like lace patchwork pieces and doilies and I knew it first shirt and I wanted like patchwork is a big part of the dress but like for the body of the dress that was the fabric we had trouble finding. 11:11.316 --> 11:14.197 [SPEAKER_01]: And so we're home one day, just like fitting stuff. 11:14.217 --> 11:22.060 [SPEAKER_01]: My mom had made a few like trial course it's that I was trying on and I got those that were playing fabrics and I'm just kind of holding it up, like seeing what kind of dress we could get going. 11:22.080 --> 11:26.721 [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's really like, I had a design in mind, but it's like, wow, you could really do anything, you know? 11:26.761 --> 11:29.662 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it really was like evolving process. 11:30.363 --> 11:31.723 [SPEAKER_01]: But I just kept describing to her again. 11:31.803 --> 11:33.044 [SPEAKER_01]: She said, what are we going to do with a fabric? 11:33.064 --> 11:36.325 [SPEAKER_01]: Like are we going to go to like this LA thing or read a like order this online? 11:36.345 --> 11:36.425 [SPEAKER_01]: And 11:37.365 --> 11:39.547 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I swear it cannot be that difficult. 11:39.567 --> 11:42.569 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm like, seriously, Mom, do we have a sheet here that I can just like see? 11:43.050 --> 11:49.114 [SPEAKER_01]: And we had discovered earlier at the reclaimed fabric store that I loved Batonburg lace. 11:49.294 --> 11:49.895 [SPEAKER_01]: If you know what that is? 11:49.915 --> 11:53.758 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know that that's what it was called, but it's not that designing almost art deco-y lace. 11:53.778 --> 11:57.060 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like made of the cloth, not like actual lace. 11:57.561 --> 11:58.762 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, like this, I love. 11:58.842 --> 12:00.683 [SPEAKER_01]: And she was like, actually, I might have a perfect thing. 12:00.723 --> 12:02.305 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I used to have like a Batonburg 12:02.965 --> 12:03.607 [SPEAKER_01]: Do they? 12:03.707 --> 12:04.670 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, let me just go see. 12:04.690 --> 12:07.858 [SPEAKER_01]: I probably got rid of it because it's like forever old, but like, let me just go look. 12:08.962 --> 12:33.757 [SPEAKER_01]: and she comes back up with the most gorgeous bedding bed spread that I've ever seen like battenberg exactly what I've been looking for which I didn't even piece together like the body of the dress having battenberg it was mostly just like and it was like cotton like that perfect exactly how I'm describing and we had tried on dresses before this like at a legit bridal studio and like it was really great but like none of us really got emotional but the second 12:37.199 --> 12:42.443 [SPEAKER_01]: all of us were just like, oh my god, tears like rolling down like, and it was just like, well, I'm like, what have you been doing? 12:42.463 --> 12:44.245 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, she's just been sitting in our base at the whole time. 12:44.265 --> 12:45.406 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is the perfect thing. 12:45.426 --> 12:47.928 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, who knew the perfect thing that we've been searching for? 12:47.948 --> 12:50.309 [SPEAKER_01]: How just been in the basement this whole time? 12:50.830 --> 12:51.711 [SPEAKER_01]: And not only that. 12:52.311 --> 12:56.214 [SPEAKER_01]: She was like, yeah, I bought this when I was 16 for my hope chest. 12:56.494 --> 12:58.036 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, that was a thing you would do when you were young. 12:58.056 --> 13:04.901 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, I'm going to get like salt shakers for like maybe I'll be married one day or like, oh, I'm going to get like a pass of fire for like, I hope I have a baby one day. 13:04.941 --> 13:06.042 [SPEAKER_01]: And so she had bought this bed spread. 13:06.062 --> 13:11.306 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, when I get married, like, this will be like my, like, master bedroom bed spread, you know, like for me, my husband. 13:11.506 --> 13:17.111 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's actually pictures of me in my sister as babies laying on the bed, like you can see

the bat and bird behind us. 13:17.151 --> 13:18.031 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's just like, no. 13:19.192 --> 13:34.228 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just a crazy thing, it was like, yeah, I'm using this, like, obviously, oh, and not only that, the sign, the cherry on top that I was like, okay, I'm using this, there was a small, small blue ink stain on the fun, the bed's red and I'm like, we might something blue. 13:35.229 --> 13:42.876 [SPEAKER_00]: My something blue like that would be like Yeah, I was like cool is that I don't know leave the stain leave the stain. 13:42.916 --> 13:43.917 [SPEAKER_00]: That's my something blue. 13:44.097 --> 14:00.352 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh That is so wild like I mean With your wedding dress like traditionally you would think like okay Everybody gets emotional as soon as I like come out of the dressing room and like they see the dress on me, but like 14:01.153 --> 14:06.379 [SPEAKER_00]: with what you were describing and what you were wanting and you telling your family. 14:06.619 --> 14:15.429 [SPEAKER_00]: And then with just the fabric, just the sheets of the dress, being revealed to all of you and everyone gets emotional. 14:15.449 --> 14:18.953 [SPEAKER_01]: The actual dress and sight literally just being held up, we're like, 14:19.233 --> 14:19.974 [SPEAKER_01]: Holy unwell. 14:20.034 --> 14:21.475 [SPEAKER_00]: That is wild. 14:21.495 --> 14:22.615 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh. 14:22.775 --> 14:27.038 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so then you kind of start designing like holding it up. 14:27.098 --> 14:28.019 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd imagine. 14:28.039 --> 14:34.123 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, like what was that design process like with you and your mom collaborating on this 14:35.003 --> 14:36.824 [SPEAKER_01]: It was something to behold. 14:37.524 --> 14:42.067 [SPEAKER_01]: It was the most stressful, but fun thing that we've ever been through. 14:42.087 --> 14:51.532 [SPEAKER_01]: And like, we just bonded so much over this whole experience because there's like the problem solving aspects, like I swear we're tumble bonded over this because I just am also such a like, 14:53.078 --> 14:55.940 [SPEAKER_01]: Dreamer, you know, and so I was like, I don't want it to be like stuff white. 14:55.960 --> 14:59.583 [SPEAKER_01]: Like could we just like die it so it's just like an off white and like that's scary. 14:59.603 --> 15:11.452 [SPEAKER_01]: Like we have the one bed spread, you know, and so oh my gosh, like the experience of us dying the fabric together and like the thousands of test strips we did of like other fabric to like see how much dye we need to use. 15:11.652 --> 15:17.616 [SPEAKER_01]: And my mom seriously made five corsets, I think, over the span of making this dress just to get it right. 15:17.656 --> 15:26.862 [SPEAKER_01]: Cause she'd never made something to this degree of like, you want it to cinch, but then you want it to like, not look wrinkled if you move your waist, you know, like it needs to hold. 15:26.922 --> 15:27.903 [SPEAKER_01]: So she was just like, 15:28.583 --> 15:33.445 [SPEAKER_01]: structurally and architecturally like very researching and skilled in that area. 15:33.665 --> 15:37.226 [SPEAKER_01]: And me and the other hand, I was just like, okay, like, can we like make it do this? 15:37.286 --> 15:39.226 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, can we just make like the hits to fight gravity? 15:39.246 --> 15:41.547 [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, okay, yeah, like, let me work on that. 15:41.567 --> 15:42.847 [SPEAKER_01]: And then I come back a week later. 15:42.867 --> 15:44.788 [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, okay, I figured this out for the hips. 15:44.808 --> 15:47.409 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, we're gonna put all this, like, organs in there. 15:47.449 --> 15:48.429 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's gonna like lift it up. 15:48.469 --> 15:51.010 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, touch the PT said to do this for like, I think I'm gonna do this. 15:51.110 --> 15:53.831 [SPEAKER_01]: And Shadow AI AI was actually a huge help. 15:53.851 --> 15:54.631 [SPEAKER_01]: I hate to say that. 15:54.691 --> 15:56.151 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's go on the water. 15:56.191 --> 15:57.832 [SPEAKER_00]: But like, AI was a huge help in this. 15:58.600 --> 16:18.733 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but no, seriously, my mom, I wish she was here part of this interview because she, like, the questions are for her of like how she did that because I'm still looking like, because we're like, oh, she's just like some seamstress and I'm like, no, no, like she made like a little red writing hood costume for us or like a little like, you know, like, still impressive, but nothing on the scale of this like right before and now. 16:19.867 --> 16:24.852 [SPEAKER_01]: When I look back at those dresses that I tried on the actual bridal studio, I'm like, oh, those look like crap. 16:24.872 --> 16:27.034 [SPEAKER_01]: Like genuinely look like crap in comparison. 16:27.194 --> 16:28.935 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, seriously. 16:29.076 --> 16:30.076 [SPEAKER_01]: She tailored it perfect. 16:30.137 --> 16:34.701 [SPEAKER_01]: And she was, because you know, that's really stressful to be asked about to make a wedding dress. 16:34.721 --> 16:36.042 [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's a lot as on the line. 16:36.082 --> 16:38.945 [SPEAKER_01]: And so she was like, I don't want it to look like your mom made it. 16:39.045 --> 16:40.987 [SPEAKER_01]: But I was like, I love that it looks like my mom made it. 16:41.007 --> 16:42.328 [SPEAKER_01]: But then it ended up just looking like, 16:43.785 --> 16:51.042 [SPEAKER_01]: insanely couture which obviously no one is mad at but i was ready to lean into the like you know few loose stitches are like what not but no she 16:52.574 --> 16:55.156 [SPEAKER_01]: She made it more better than I could have even imagined. 16:55.396 --> 16:57.058 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's amazing. 16:57.198 --> 17:10.929 [SPEAKER_00]: And for her to just like continue to do all this research, wanting to make it as perfect as possible for you and like

knowing that like you're gonna be wearing this for X amount of hours during your day, you don't want things to be falling apart. 17:10.949 --> 17:16.133 [SPEAKER_01]: No, she's like, I think pockets are just like, wanting one phone and like, oh yeah, she did like the perfect. 17:16.273 --> 17:17.614 [SPEAKER_01]: That is so interesting. 17:17.674 --> 17:18.755 [SPEAKER_00]: She literally not everything. 17:19.075 --> 17:22.198 [SPEAKER_00]: all the little details like how cool is that. 17:22.678 --> 17:26.781 [SPEAKER_00]: So, did you have like, you such you made five corsets for you? 17:26.861 --> 17:28.722 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, out of the horse of this. 17:28.822 --> 17:34.247 [SPEAKER_00]: So, like, how often were you trying this on at like, doing fittings with your mom? 17:34.267 --> 17:34.787 [SPEAKER_00]: All the time. 17:34.807 --> 17:39.090 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I was there basically every weekend to just do like fittings, fittings. 17:39.110 --> 17:42.613 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, anytime she would come up to my apartment, we lived like about an hour from each other. 17:42.653 --> 17:45.935 [SPEAKER_01]: She'd like, bringing stuff and like, measuring me constantly. 17:45.955 --> 17:47.917 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I had to, oh my god, this is actually funny. 17:48.397 --> 17:55.141 [SPEAKER_01]: We had to make our own, like, what would you call this, like fabric measure, measuring tape, but like fabric, you know what I mean? 17:55.161 --> 17:55.461 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 17:55.521 --> 17:58.163 [SPEAKER_00]: I was just like, this is like the measuring tape. 17:58.323 --> 18:03.626 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, why don't you like, I want to get this and I forgot to bring what and I'm like, okay, and I actually use this a lot now. 18:05.227 --> 18:05.988 [SPEAKER_01]: That's amazing. 18:06.028 --> 18:08.489 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just extremely DIY. 18:08.629 --> 18:09.630 [SPEAKER_01]: Extremely DIY. 18:10.505 --> 18:11.166 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow. 18:11.366 --> 18:12.447 [SPEAKER_00]: That's wild. 18:12.727 --> 18:18.371 [SPEAKER_00]: So did your fiance have any idea that this was happening that your mom was making your dress? 18:18.491 --> 18:18.732 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 18:18.752 --> 18:19.632 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he knew. 18:19.692 --> 18:20.093 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 18:20.513 --> 18:22.475 [SPEAKER_00]: Was he nervous about that too? 18:22.515 --> 18:31.362 [SPEAKER_01]: He knows that like I have a very distinct division and that like I wouldn't walk out looking crazy, but from from the bits and pieces that he was picking up on. 18:32.628 --> 18:40.772 [SPEAKER_01]: He definitely told me that I thought this dress was going to be like in a negative way like so much crazier because he's seeing like he saw He saw a few things. 18:40.812 --> 18:52.738 [SPEAKER_01]: It's really hard to hide because like we go over to my parents house and like the upstairs of our house was just an entire like fabric studio at that point And so he saw like a few of the patchwork things and

was like, oh, like, what is this going to be, you know? 18:53.798 --> 19:01.319 [SPEAKER_01]: And he had no idea that it was going to be what the end result was, but he definitely knew that it was like something was brewing, something crazy was brewing. 19:01.379 --> 19:03.000 [SPEAKER_01]: But he was excited for ultimately. 19:03.040 --> 19:06.240 [SPEAKER_01]: And like it was so hard sitting on the information. 19:06.280 --> 19:11.581 [SPEAKER_01]: Like the the kids went with the duvet cover and like see what I mean, I'm like, I can't even tell them about that. 19:11.861 --> 19:17.042 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I literally have to wait months and months and months to even tell him about like, we're all freaking out. 19:17.082 --> 19:19.943 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you don't know, but like the craziest thing happened. 19:19.963 --> 19:21.143 [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's all I can say. 19:21.903 --> 19:29.808 [SPEAKER_01]: It was the hardest secret I never want to and I'm not a secret keeper like I'm such a like let's open your presence right now You know, he's like I want to be surprised like he loves his surprise. 19:29.828 --> 19:32.270 [SPEAKER_01]: So it was just like Dying the whole time. 19:32.870 --> 19:37.673 [SPEAKER_00]: So how long did it actually take your mom to create the dress? 19:38.854 --> 19:44.898 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean she obviously wasn't working on it like 24 hours a day every single day, but it was over a span of like three months. 19:44.938 --> 19:45.579 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to say 19:46.987 --> 20:01.154 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, no short amount of time but did it ever did ever feel like it was coming down to the wire like towards the end of your wedding or like was she pretty good about like having things finished in time. 20:01.682 --> 20:03.543 [SPEAKER_01]: She did the last stitch on my dress. 20:03.623 --> 20:06.185 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like five days before I walked on the aisle. 20:06.205 --> 20:12.750 [SPEAKER_01]: So it was a little down to the, the most, the wider thing was like, the final look, like, how was I gonna do my hair? 20:12.790 --> 20:19.294 [SPEAKER_01]: Was I gonna have a veil, like, what shoe where, you know, like, what make up, what do we add to it? 20:19.314 --> 20:23.937 [SPEAKER_01]: That was really hard to figure out because the dress was just its own main character. 20:23.977 --> 20:24.738 [SPEAKER_01]: And I just was like, 20:25.158 --> 20:26.478 [SPEAKER_01]: Do we add a veil? 20:26.518 --> 20:28.239 [SPEAKER_01]: Do I do something crazy with the hair? 20:28.259 --> 20:29.559 [SPEAKER_01]: Do we just let the dress speak for it? 20:29.639 --> 20:32.080 [SPEAKER_01]: So, which was we ultimately ended up doing. 20:32.120 --> 20:50.684 [SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted that cool girl look which is like free loose crazy hair and then just the dress being the most formal part because I wanted to have that like somewhat not formal wedding but more just like casual but then the dress is obviously like very formal but

then it's like I'm barefoot or I'm in flip flops, you know like that juxtaposition look like I have like 20:54.725 --> 21:05.470 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, it turned out so amazing like it's it's seriously unreal like what you guys were able to pull off like it's so cool like I can see so many girls 21:06.175 --> 21:11.418 [SPEAKER_00]: like wanting the stress now or like a design very similar to it. 21:11.518 --> 21:14.860 [SPEAKER_00]: Your mom better get to know, you know, better get some of those bad sheets. 21:14.920 --> 21:18.723 [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, I don't think I have our own like, would you stress, would you? 21:18.743 --> 21:21.044 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you write your dress to me and like, are you on your mind? 21:21.144 --> 21:22.825 [SPEAKER_01]: You think I would sell that dress to you? 21:22.885 --> 21:28.249 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, no, no, not just a state, it's way too sacred. 21:28.769 --> 21:55.642 [SPEAKER_01]: which I love the sentiment they'll be like oh yeah and there are comments of people like oh this is just like the best dress ever and like I love seeing those comments because I'm like that's exactly what I think like when I try them like this is just literally the best dress ever like I couldn't dream something better because I literally dreamed my best thing yeah it's so cool so what was did you do a first you did a first look right with your husband at your wedding or was it it was more like the first time when you walked 21:58.919 --> 22:08.995 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay my gosh, so what was his reaction like what were what was the reaction of like other people at the wedding to like did 22:09.638 --> 22:13.321 [SPEAKER_00]: Did the word kind of get out that, like, your mom had created this? 22:13.341 --> 22:13.781 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. 22:13.821 --> 22:25.149 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, my sweet husband, which this was like my dream is he was such an emotional wreck at the ceremony, which was just, oh, can you always think like, is he going to cry? 22:25.189 --> 22:30.193 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know, like maybe he's like not the type, you know, you just don't know like what is actually going to happen. 22:30.213 --> 22:35.037 [SPEAKER_01]: Like the pressure, like even if he is a type to cry, like, maybe there's too much pressure to like actually getting your emotions, but like, 22:35.477 --> 22:52.037 [SPEAKER_01]: The second I got to the top of the aisle he was just like because he knew like I was just like I just can't wait for you to see the dress like he knew the dress was such a big thing, which is not like I don't want it to feel superficial, but like it was such a like bonding on with me and my mom and like the meeting behind it, but the dress was just a huge 22:52.417 --> 23:07.466 [SPEAKER_01]: part of my wedding and so I think he just knew like this was the culmination and like him seeing it and when we were like standing at the top of the aisle together and like the ceremony was kind of going on like I could just

see in his eyes that he was like taking in the dress and then when we walked back up the aisle after being married. 23:08.006 --> 23:09.886 [SPEAKER_01]: We like sort of walks away together. 23:09.946 --> 23:11.187 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, what do you think of the dress? 23:11.247 --> 23:12.847 [SPEAKER_01]: And he was just like, all right. 23:12.867 --> 23:13.887 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I can't believe it. 23:13.927 --> 23:15.888 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's so much better than I ever thought. 23:15.908 --> 23:17.748 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, he was just loving it. 23:17.788 --> 23:19.529 [SPEAKER_01]: I was just like, okay, worth it. 23:19.569 --> 23:20.609 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is the only moment. 23:20.649 --> 23:26.551 [SPEAKER_01]: Even if everyone else hates in the world to hates my dress, like, this is what I've been waiting for is like his reaction to the dress. 23:26.951 --> 23:27.511 [SPEAKER_01]: And he loved it. 23:27.771 --> 23:28.231 [SPEAKER_01]: He loved it. 23:28.311 --> 23:33.012 [SPEAKER_01]: He thought he thought the whole thing was going to be like, a little bit more crazy with the Patrick that he had kind of seen. 23:33.512 --> 23:36.213 [SPEAKER_01]: But then he was like, oh, and I got to explain him in that moment. 23:37.013 --> 23:38.135 [SPEAKER_01]: This is the bed sheet. 23:38.475 --> 23:44.585 [SPEAKER_01]: This is the bed sheet that, like, this is the craziest part and I'm like, I know we just got into the whole story right now. 23:46.065 --> 23:46.505 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 23:47.246 --> 23:48.426 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's so cool. 23:48.526 --> 23:48.966 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure. 23:49.026 --> 23:52.028 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you were like chopping at the bit to like tell him the story. 23:52.088 --> 23:53.388 [SPEAKER_00]: Like the day has finally come. 23:53.428 --> 23:54.068 [SPEAKER_00]: It's our wedding day. 23:54.108 --> 23:57.290 [SPEAKER_00]: But I need to tell you all of this that happened and what went into this dress. 23:57.310 --> 23:58.210 [SPEAKER_00]: That's so great. 23:58.250 --> 24:00.411 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's like barely even recovering. 24:00.431 --> 24:01.512 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like okay, but really quick. 24:01.712 --> 24:03.853 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're definitely did get out about it. 24:03.893 --> 24:08.875 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm on making the dress because like we're kind of in our greeting line and everyone was like, Oh my goodness. 24:08.955 --> 24:09.235 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, 24:09.795 --> 24:10.856 [SPEAKER_00]: your mom made this. 24:10.936 --> 24:19.161 [SPEAKER_01]: And especially people who were close relatives of my mom were like, okay, no, she was crafty, but like, she actually sewed this whole thing and like, you know, she sewed this whole thing. 24:19.762 --> 24:20.742 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, she created this. 24:20.942 --> 24:23.884 [SPEAKER_01]: And everyone, and so it was like, they would greet me in the greeting line. 24:24.345 --> 24:29.408 [SPEAKER_01]: And then immediately go over to my mom and then everyone was like, talking to my mom's ear off, which is kind of her nightmare. 24:29.428 --> 24:33.631 [SPEAKER_01]: She's a little bit more like, doesn't love this so much as she's like, that was a big day for me. 24:33.831 --> 24:35.012 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a good job mom. 24:36.327 --> 24:42.818 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean she deserved her flowers like I mean for I'm what you yes 24:43.468 --> 24:44.469 [SPEAKER_01]: Totally, yeah. 24:44.709 --> 24:46.690 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, I love it so much. 24:46.850 --> 24:59.956 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, if you're listening to this, like we will put photos of this on our blog for you to go and check out just so you can see the amazing work that went into Gracie's dress. 25:00.117 --> 25:01.477 [SPEAKER_00]: It is so cool. 25:01.617 --> 25:02.558 [SPEAKER_00]: Super good to work. 25:02.918 --> 25:03.518 [SPEAKER_00]: How would you? 25:03.798 --> 25:05.399 [SPEAKER_00]: Can you do a little rundown? 25:05.499 --> 25:10.742 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe for people who aren't able to check this out right now or might be listening like in their car or something like 25:11.112 --> 25:12.814 [SPEAKER_00]: of how it actually looked. 25:13.234 --> 25:18.659 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's a very structured straight square net corset. 25:18.779 --> 25:25.405 [SPEAKER_01]: And it has almost like a little bust section that defines the bust area. 25:25.605 --> 25:28.467 [SPEAKER_01]: And the top of it has that like bat and bird edge. 25:28.527 --> 25:30.589 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of like a unique edge at the top. 25:31.290 --> 25:33.291 [SPEAKER_01]: And then it's like a dropway. 25:33.371 --> 25:34.873 [SPEAKER_01]: So it goes down like past, 25:35.253 --> 26:00.302 [SPEAKER_01]: my hip to my hip I guess oh I don't know where you consider drop waste to be and then super voluminous at the hip huge pillowy the fabric going back and then it kind of sweeps around on the hip like fold it up like I don't know I'm scared and there's like a patchwork that you can see it like opens up to a patchwork section that shoots out from the side of my hip 26:01.162 --> 26:03.984 [SPEAKER_01]: and a bunch of folds right there and a big, like, gathered area. 26:04.024 --> 26:06.945 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, there are asymmetrical was what my vibe is. 26:07.526 --> 26:18.252 [SPEAKER_01]: And then she actually had the perfect pillowcases from the bedding that made, I had these like detached sleeves that went down, that also had like the Baton Bird pattern on them. 26:18.472 --> 26:20.553 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's, and it's super long train. 26:20.613 --> 26:21.654 [SPEAKER_01]: Could you do a length train? 26:22.780 --> 26:28.604 [SPEAKER_01]: And she bustle it all cute and asymmetrical as well, which I love that my gosh, that's so cool. 26:28.704 --> 26:30.205 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was so gorgeous. 26:30.325 --> 26:46.155 [SPEAKER_00]: It almost gave like slightly ran a song vibes maybe, but like, yeah, I just loved like how you mix so

much like modern with vintage and yeah, it totally goes with 26:46.870 --> 27:14.950 [SPEAKER_00]: like the vibe I feel like of even like just looking at your Instagram and like your art and like your father's art and like you know kind of that like old gothic type of like writing that was on you know the William Mary Me Arts like it all just like translated like so well like your dress could have been like from that time but still so modern and yeah it was super cool 27:15.855 --> 27:17.957 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, love it so much. 27:18.258 --> 27:25.466 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's talk a little bit about like moving along from the dress like just planning your wedding in general. 27:25.686 --> 27:31.292 [SPEAKER_00]: Like what was that like choosing your venue, choosing your vendors and the whole bit? 27:32.180 --> 27:48.966 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean it was it was actually really hard because I'm someone who has a hard time not having control like if I could have been the photographer and videographer and obviously I couldn't make the dress but like if I could have I would have just because like I want to get in there I want to be the one doing like the fun creative jobs. 27:49.606 --> 27:57.468 [SPEAKER_01]: So finding someone that could be the videographer and photographer was a challenge especially because like I said before you taught 27:59.209 --> 28:16.877 [SPEAKER_01]: There's just such a specific formula for a Utah wedding that I'm just not the biggest fan of, like, it's very, I don't want to put other girls down, but like, you know, there's just like everyone has their own personal taste and I feel like in Utah it's a lot of like, everyone's wedding is a lot more casual here, like it's not as formal as like, 28:17.537 --> 28:36.071 [SPEAKER_01]: more east coast weddings where it's like a chicken or fish and it's a sit down dinner, you know, it's just not that here and people don't ever expect that like if you want to have a dress put it you're wedding like people are going to be in jeans people are going to be underdressed and you talk like that's just kind of how it is and a big factor that was photography it's just all kind of seems to be the same as far as like 28:37.012 --> 28:46.081 [SPEAKER_01]: I obviously wanted a very unique wedding so like I want someone who can see my vision and that I'm having this like very tell moment and is going to like lean into that and also love that. 28:46.121 --> 28:47.523 [SPEAKER_01]: And so a lot of people that I would hit up. 28:48.378 --> 28:53.260 [SPEAKER_01]: that I could tell that for talking for a really good, but it was just pretty basic. 28:53.280 --> 28:56.642 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I wanted to do more interesting posing or really colorful edits. 28:56.662 --> 29:03.986 [SPEAKER_01]: Like a lot of the edits I see here are super blown out why and just like standing in a field and just very like the typical, you know? 29:04.246 --> 29:08.528 [SPEAKER_01]: Which is still great, but I just knew I wanted it to like be that extra like creativeness. 29:08.568 --> 29:14.771 [SPEAKER_01]: And I knew there was someone out there who was gonna be like, oh, you're my dream client because I'm shooting all these weddings that look the same, like let me try and do something different. 29:14.791 --> 29:16.492 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I did actually go through a lot of interviews 29:17.392 --> 29:21.293 [SPEAKER_01]: photographers to see like, hey, is this something that excites you or does this make you nervous? 29:21.353 --> 29:34.158 [SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of photographers would be like, oh, you know, like, my edits have to stay the same, but like, we can switch up a few things, but like, I basically take these pictures and I'm like, okay, if you are a real creative, you'd be like, this is my dream, you know, like, let me take this challenge on. 29:34.578 --> 29:36.258 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I'd be like, okay, maybe not my person. 29:36.278 --> 29:38.419 [SPEAKER_01]: And I can't cross my photographer or Clara Lene. 29:38.779 --> 29:42.361 [SPEAKER_01]: And she had done this crazy photo shoot, and I was like, this is how I know you're my girl. 29:42.781 --> 29:45.102 [SPEAKER_01]: They went out to the pink plate. 29:45.122 --> 29:46.842 [SPEAKER_01]: There's like a pink plate here in Salt Lake. 29:47.143 --> 29:56.406 [SPEAKER_01]: And she had this model with this fish, and they were doing all this interesting stuff, and the film that she was using was super colorful, and it was just like the craziest photo shoot I've ever seen. 29:56.427 --> 29:57.067 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, okay. 29:57.687 --> 30:14.880 [SPEAKER_01]: you obviously are trying to do something different here and I love that and I think she had shot a couple weddings but she does like a little bit of everything and when I had called her about it she was like oh yeah this is like amazing like I can't wait for this I would love to be a part of this is such an honor and she's someone who I can tell like really, really took 30:15.858 --> 30:21.781 [SPEAKER_01]: like pride in being part of this project and she understood all the work that was going in so she's like, oh, this is a huge honor. 30:22.001 --> 30:26.364 [SPEAKER_01]: And her photos came out amazing, like just absolutely gorgeous. 30:26.384 --> 30:29.966 [SPEAKER_01]: My dream photos, like every single photo, I'm like, yes, this is exactly what I had in mind. 30:30.386 --> 30:34.268 [SPEAKER_01]: This is my dream picture and even pictures that I didn't even like think of in my head. 30:34.408 --> 30:38.731 [SPEAKER_01]: She was put the most, she made me feel so at the area like a princess in a fairy tale. 30:39.859 --> 30:42.581 [SPEAKER_01]: And with my videographer, he was so great. 30:42.681 --> 30:53.109 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I am just, I feel like I picked the best vendors in all of Utah, honestly, because he also such a professional, such a creative, like, just very, very knowledgeable about everything. 30:53.149 -->

31:03.796 [SPEAKER_01]: And you can sometimes, when you're talking to another creative, feel like, are they understanding, like, are they, can they see in their head what I'm describing, you know, some people that aren't creative are like, oh, I can't really picture it. 31:04.477 --> 31:08.139 [SPEAKER_01]: He totally understood the vibes, and I really wanted to hone in for my video on, 31:09.020 --> 31:10.261 [SPEAKER_01]: the DIYness of it all. 31:10.281 --> 31:20.050 [SPEAKER_01]: Like my mom said my dress, my dad like basically grew the grass where I got married and like hand built the arch so I got married under and like we hand placed every chair for my son. 31:20.110 --> 31:26.816 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like I got hives hand placing every chair for my ceremony because like I said I can't let anyone have control and I was like I don't know. 31:27.296 --> 31:31.941 [SPEAKER_01]: That turn needs to go here and there was very like eclectic chairs so it wasn't like you can't just have you know. 31:32.601 --> 31:34.102 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I'm kind of giving up on stuff. 31:34.222 --> 31:35.942 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, please hone in with that one. 31:35.962 --> 31:41.405 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a feel like you are seeing the making of the wedding, not just the wedding, and he was like, oh, I totally get it. 31:41.425 --> 31:45.686 [SPEAKER_01]: And it was just such a cool, like, Wes Andersone, a little bit by video. 31:45.946 --> 31:47.727 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's my favorite thing to watch. 31:48.507 --> 31:49.468 [SPEAKER_01]: It's my favorite thing to watch. 31:49.488 --> 31:52.889 [SPEAKER_01]: And both of them were super, super honored to be part of it. 31:52.929 --> 31:54.890 [SPEAKER_01]: They both have done little things to, like, 31:56.173 --> 31:59.597 [SPEAKER_01]: Like little extras here and there if that makes sense, just to show like, hey, I'm really in it. 31:59.617 --> 32:05.445 [SPEAKER_01]: Like by the dog for came an extra day gave us an extra day of filming for free, just to get all those cool shots that I wanted. 32:05.465 --> 32:08.769 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, Claire sent me a bunch of 32:10.146 --> 32:24.046 [SPEAKER_01]: bunch of gifts afterwards and free prints of our photos and it seems to be something that helped them a lot in their businesses like it grew their accounts a lot so that makes me really happy because then it's like okay like I hope this was good for them as well you know. 32:24.226 --> 32:25.788 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm yeah definitely. 32:26.429 --> 32:36.472 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm sure like with you being a creative, it is hard to relinquish that control to somebody else, like, and for them to like truly understand you. 32:36.552 --> 32:47.215 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm glad that like that was very important to you and you really did take the time to interview people and make sure that they were the right fit and make sure that they understood your vision. 32:47.296 --> 32:50.677 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, having like, you know, that you're creative 32:52.542 --> 33:04.811 [SPEAKER_00]: have more of maybe like an editorial like creative background rather than like we shoot weddings and that's all we do like that totally makes sense for you in your wedding. 33:04.931 --> 33:11.216 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm glad that like you were able to find them because yeah that is a hard ask especially like 33:12.398 --> 33:25.868 [SPEAKER_00]: Possibly in a market like you said that you're in where it is like basically like this is how wedding photos look in our market and it's kind of hard to find something else outside of the box and so I mean Bravo to you for like. 33:26.492 --> 33:32.516 [SPEAKER_00]: keeping on trying to really like make your vision truly what you wanted for your day. 33:32.696 --> 33:33.877 [SPEAKER_00]: So super cool. 33:34.097 --> 33:41.021 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, the photos, at least that I've seen are just like, and yeah, awesome and totally fit your vibe. 33:41.161 --> 33:42.482 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so cool. 33:43.282 --> 33:48.545 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, so let's talk about what were some of those special moments from your day. 33:48.645 --> 34:09.197 [SPEAKER_00]: I know you talked about like doing the receiving line and like everybody like talking about your dress and like having them like to truly like give your mom like all recognition too for the dress, but like were there any other moments maybe like on the dance floor or you know other special moments that actually happened during your day. 34:09.816 --> 34:22.451 [SPEAKER_01]: I do want to shout out my mom one more time because she did also make all the florals for me and my bread of party, but like She made it like French-beaded flowers, so they were like works of art within them. 34:23.012 --> 34:23.713 [SPEAKER_00]: I know what I'm like. 34:23.773 --> 34:24.674 [SPEAKER_00]: Mom, how did you? 34:26.554 --> 34:31.015 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh can you also make these flowers but she was like, no, I think I can't do that now. 34:31.035 --> 34:35.136 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd be really cool because I never wanted florals to I don't like the idea of a big bouquet. 34:35.156 --> 34:39.817 [SPEAKER_01]: I wanted like if anything like a singular flower and I always thought like a singular tool would be cool. 34:39.857 --> 34:43.758 [SPEAKER_01]: But she was like, let's do these like be did French beaded flowers. 34:43.798 --> 34:47.899 [SPEAKER_01]: So that was really cool to have all, and all my bridesmaids all had like a singular flower. 34:47.919 --> 34:50.080 [SPEAKER_01]: Like a big long ribbon hanging off. 34:50.100 --> 34:54.481 [SPEAKER_01]: That was really cool to just have everyone was like wanting to pass around the bouquet, see the bouquet. 34:55.121 --> 35:01.825 [SPEAKER_01]: Another thing that was really cool, my cousin actually did this for her wedding a few years ago, and I was like, I have to do that. 35:01.865 --> 35:14.973 [SPEAKER_01]: But mannequins lining, so there was like a tree

tunnel that led to my backyard where I had guests enter, and we had that tree tunnel lined with mannequins that had wedding dresses from past. 35:15.793 --> 35:32.079 [SPEAKER_01]: not pass but just like relatives like my mom is wedding dress my husband's wedding mom my husband's mother my mom's wedding dress my grandma's wedding dresses I had a snow school this had passed away and their wedding dresses were there with a little like date of like when they got married what year you know 35:32.680 --> 35:33.841 [SPEAKER_01]: and I picture of them in the dress. 35:33.861 --> 35:34.981 [SPEAKER_01]: So that was really cool, yes. 35:35.001 --> 35:36.622 [SPEAKER_01]: Really, really, really love that part. 35:36.743 --> 35:44.067 [SPEAKER_01]: And I just think any bride who has access to their mothers and grandmothers and aunts, wedding dresses, should just do that. 35:44.247 --> 35:46.189 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's a really cheap way to have decoration. 35:46.209 --> 35:48.970 [SPEAKER_01]: And the dresses are already there doing nothing for you. 35:49.010 --> 35:49.831 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's put them out. 35:49.851 --> 35:50.891 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's just say them, you know? 35:52.052 --> 35:53.153 [SPEAKER_01]: And so guests really love that. 35:53.173 --> 35:58.797 [SPEAKER_01]: Like everyone's coming up like, oh, because we have my aunt Sarah who passed away and she's just super close with a lot of my family members. 35:58.817 --> 36:01.318 [SPEAKER_01]: They were just like, and I just bald when I saw Sarah's dress. 36:01.339 --> 36:03.500 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, isn't that just so special. 36:03.780 --> 36:06.002 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that is so special. 36:06.222 --> 36:07.483 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like a mini museum. 36:07.723 --> 36:08.723 [SPEAKER_00]: Like of your family. 36:08.984 --> 36:09.244 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, 36:09.845 --> 36:13.749 [SPEAKER_00]: That's so cool that people got to walk through and just, like, so special. 36:13.769 --> 36:24.461 [SPEAKER_01]: Especially when my friends was such a, like, big feature, like, I just wanted that moment to also be, like, acknowledging the past wedding dresses, you know, and my mom had a really interesting one, and my mother-in-law had a really interesting one. 36:24.501 --> 36:30.628 [SPEAKER_01]: It was, like, the big shoulders and my mom had these, like, sleeves that drip down and so I was just like, yeah, let's show these off, guys. 36:30.868 --> 36:35.349 [SPEAKER_01]: But another interesting thing I would say is, I never want to do like the classic cake cutting. 36:35.510 --> 36:41.452 [SPEAKER_01]: I know it wasn't what wanted to do something kind of more different because there's just that like will they won't they like smash the cake in their faces? 36:41.472 --> 36:43.252 [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, I just don't know if I love that. 36:43.592 --> 36:44.052 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 36:44.473 --> 36:50.675 [SPEAKER_01]: So I had seen where you have like funny or just like members of your family that you know would like rock it. 36:50.975 --> 36:51.115 [SPEAKER_01]: And 36:52.115 --> 36:55.677 [SPEAKER_01]: We had, so it was my sister-in-law and I guess my cousin-in-law. 36:55.797 --> 37:16.051 [SPEAKER_01]: They both came out, we gave them, like, Italian mass ashes, Italian chef hats, like aprons, and we put on that, like, just, like, classic, I don't know, I guess Italian music, but we had a projection screen that had this vintage, like, pastry-making cartoon on it, and they came out and, like, put together my cake, so we had, like, these layers of, 37:16.811 --> 37:24.662 [SPEAKER_01]: It was almost like a crescent puff pastry, and then like a marscapone frosting, and then topped with fresh berries. 37:24.762 --> 37:27.566 [SPEAKER_01]: And so it was this whole like extravaganza show. 37:27.646 --> 37:28.808 [SPEAKER_01]: It was like the funnest thing. 37:28.828 --> 37:33.634 [SPEAKER_01]: I came out so much better than I had ever even imagined, because I just didn't all look healthy. 37:34.175 --> 37:40.682 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's kind of a, even if it's someone who you think could wrong in, like, all the families around, like, you might choke up a little bit. 37:40.742 --> 37:54.698 [SPEAKER_01]: No, they, like, when I did this whole crazy dip with each other, like dance moves, they're like tossing berries in the guest mouths, and like, we had a game of hope, or not, so like, you throw the berry and if they get it, oh, but they don't get it, no, but, 37:55.593 --> 37:58.575 [SPEAKER_01]: And then, yeah, like, that was so good. 37:58.615 --> 38:00.437 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's better than a cake cutting, right? 38:00.637 --> 38:04.380 [SPEAKER_01]: And then we also had a separate cake that was like beautifully for taking care of everyone to enjoy. 38:04.420 --> 38:05.801 [SPEAKER_01]: But both cakes got eaten. 38:06.181 --> 38:07.802 [SPEAKER_01]: I will have you know both cakes got eaten. 38:07.842 --> 38:08.603 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh. 38:09.620 --> 38:11.181 [SPEAKER_00]: That's so fun. 38:11.241 --> 38:11.721 [SPEAKER_00]: My gosh. 38:11.921 --> 38:12.642 [SPEAKER_00]: Are you with the alien? 38:12.722 --> 38:14.002 [SPEAKER_00]: Are you with the alien? 38:14.062 --> 38:15.523 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 38:15.543 --> 38:15.603 [SPEAKER_01]: No. 38:15.623 --> 38:17.624 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it seems like the right vibe. 38:17.644 --> 38:19.485 [SPEAKER_00]: You're like, this just sounds fun. 38:19.565 --> 38:20.606 [SPEAKER_00]: That's so good. 38:20.726 --> 38:22.607 [SPEAKER_00]: I love that so much. 38:22.887 --> 38:27.449 [SPEAKER_00]: Looking back at your wedding, what advice would you give somebody who's planning their wedding now? 38:27.589 --> 38:28.310 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say, 38:29.556 --> 38:31.838 [SPEAKER_01]: Even if you think you're having, okay, I have two pieces of advice. 38:32.759 --> 38:39.324 [SPEAKER_01]: Even if you think you're having a DIY like chill wedding, I think having a wedding coordinator

is very important. 38:39.364 --> 38:43.807 [SPEAKER_01]: Because yeah, who is gonna like press play on whatever and like tell everyone that the cake cutting is happening? 38:43.827 --> 38:46.929 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it shouldn't be your mom, it shouldn't be a relative, like let them enjoy their day. 38:47.550 --> 38:52.834 [SPEAKER_01]: And I just thought like, oh, we're having like a more chill, like DIY wedding, like we don't need a wedding coordinator, you know? 38:52.974 --> 38:55.456 [SPEAKER_01]: But no, we needed a wedding coordinator bad. 38:55.476 --> 38:56.096 [SPEAKER_01]: We had to hire 38:56.837 --> 38:57.197 [SPEAKER_01]: higher. 38:57.397 --> 38:58.018 [SPEAKER_01]: She didn't for free. 38:58.038 --> 38:58.598 [SPEAKER_01]: She's so nice. 38:58.658 --> 38:59.539 [SPEAKER_01]: Just one of my neighbors. 38:59.559 --> 39:01.781 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, can you just come like, make sure everything you know? 39:01.841 --> 39:06.625 [SPEAKER_01]: And she was like, she did a lot of work that day that I did not prepare her for. 39:06.765 --> 39:18.333 [SPEAKER_01]: So she was an angel for that, but I'm like, okay, yeah, if I could redo things, I would get someone who could just like get stuff done on that day and like get everyone in order and press play on the music and you know, make sure the timing is right for everything. 39:18.354 --> 39:19.695 [SPEAKER_01]: But that's definitely important. 39:20.075 --> 39:23.177 [SPEAKER_01]: But also say, especially if you're having a DIY wedding, 39:24.869 --> 39:31.731 [SPEAKER_01]: just persevere because I was kind of in the mindset before my wedding of like all this work. 39:31.751 --> 39:35.232 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no way that all this work is gonna pay off to like just an amazing day. 39:35.292 --> 39:42.795 [SPEAKER_01]: Like just because I felt like I was too invested, you know, like, oh, it's probably gonna be a really good day, but like people always like, oh, you're wedding day, the best day of your life, the best day of your life, you know? 39:42.815 --> 39:46.776 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't think like just with how much stress I knew and how much work there was going into it. 39:46.796 --> 39:49.657 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I just, I think it would be a really good day, but like gosh, I hope I'm not like, 39:50.397 --> 39:54.838 [SPEAKER_01]: over doing it and like not going to have the best day you know but it was the best day of my life. 39:55.178 --> 39:56.079 [SPEAKER_01]: It was the best day of my life. 39:56.159 --> 40:07.742 [SPEAKER_01]: Even though it was so invested in everything and you know when you're that deep like you are more aware of things that aren't working out and like expectations you know whereas if you were less involved with your wedding it's just like things that other people are handling or whatever. 40:08.702 --> 40:10.102 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it was just persevere. 40:10.162 --> 40:27.547 [SPEAKER_01]: Just get through it because like even my husband, he's like, yeah,

I did not like know how that was going to go for a minute there, but then like on that wedding day like we both are just so nostalgic for a wedding day like everyone being there like just even decorations up like my parents have left those decorations up in my backyard to this day like they have not taken anything down. 40:27.928 --> 40:29.088 [SPEAKER_00]: I love that. 40:29.428 --> 40:30.650 [SPEAKER_00]: that it's so bad. 40:30.670 --> 40:33.853 [SPEAKER_01]: So by the way, I'm going to get married soon. 40:33.954 --> 40:37.578 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you can like relive it anytime you go in their backyard. 40:37.638 --> 40:38.839 [SPEAKER_00]: That's so cool. 40:39.120 --> 40:40.421 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I love that so much. 40:40.461 --> 40:41.743 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, great advice. 40:41.903 --> 40:45.287 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's something that we preach a lot on this podcast too. 40:45.367 --> 40:45.787 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, 40:46.388 --> 40:47.148 [SPEAKER_00]: at least of course. 40:47.248 --> 40:53.210 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, it's a love you know, you don't want to be the one that's like calling the cake baker like where's my cake. 40:53.250 --> 40:54.250 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, totally. 40:54.390 --> 40:58.151 [SPEAKER_00]: So you can find a thing that was so great that your neighbor was able to help you. 40:58.211 --> 41:02.053 [SPEAKER_00]: They can just make sure like everything goes as to plan. 41:02.193 --> 41:03.633 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, totally. 41:03.653 --> 41:07.354 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because you don't want to worry about all that on your day and yeah. 41:08.134 --> 41:09.215 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh. 41:09.235 --> 41:12.976 [SPEAKER_00]: So I would also love to know like since this happens like. 41:13.736 --> 41:34.055 [SPEAKER_00]: were you expecting to get like your dress to go viral or like the features and people magazine like what has all this attention been like for you since it's been crazy I mean I knew the dress would get some attention especially just like from my own followers because I've been kind of hyping it up like building up like 41:34.972 --> 41:56.511 [SPEAKER_01]: building up the hype for it, because I had been posting faceless pictures and like, oh, just wait till you guys see my wedding dress, just wait till you see this and like, I have tattoo clients and they're all like, tell me about it and like the way I'm describing it, they're like, oh, yeah, like this is going to be something and I'm like, you just have to see it, I think, because I'm like, oh, yeah, there's like a cardboard cut out of a horse and like my dress is like patchwork, but like it's cool, like it promised and like, oh, like, 41:57.152 --> 42:08.364 [SPEAKER_01]: That's something, you know, and so it's been like a lot of love known about it and especially people just like in my small town or like this big wedding, you know, it's been a big event for everyone to like look forward to. 42:08.404 --> 42:13.229 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was always kind of

expecting like at least attention from my followers or people that knew me. 42:13.309 --> 42:13.489 [SPEAKER_01]: But 42:14.270 --> 42:23.838 [SPEAKER_01]: the way that it has taken off has been totally unprecedented, especially like a people magazine feature about it and you know, you read to y'all about me being on this podcast right now. 42:24.178 --> 42:25.279 [SPEAKER_01]: It's been really great. 42:25.479 --> 42:40.492 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, my wedding truly has been like as a creative like my magnum opus, like I just feel like this is the peak of like having the budget to like do something and like the justification to do something like if I could really throw an event like this, now would be the time to do it. 42:40.552 --> 42:42.613 [SPEAKER_01]: So that attention has been so great for me. 42:42.633 --> 42:45.535 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah, okay, this is the best thing I think I ever done. 42:45.575 --> 42:47.837 [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, let's get some attention for it. 42:47.857 --> 42:49.258 [SPEAKER_01]: But no, it's been so great. 42:49.278 --> 42:53.281 [SPEAKER_01]: Especially people who come in saying, like, how I said, like, this is the best wedding ever. 42:53.341 --> 42:55.242 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is the most beautiful one just ever seen. 42:55.282 --> 43:03.208 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, it feels so, especially with all the hard work we put in, like, it just feels so validating to be like, okay, like, in the world loves it. 43:03.248 --> 43:06.150 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's a few hate comments, but I did famously say, 43:06.950 --> 43:10.792 [SPEAKER_01]: Before any of the wedding happen, I'm like, I want people to either love my wedding or hate my wedding. 43:10.852 --> 43:12.613 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want it to not do anything to you. 43:12.673 --> 43:15.874 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't want you to just be like, you know, like I'd rather you either hate it or love it. 43:15.894 --> 43:18.856 [SPEAKER_01]: Because then it's like, you really did something, you know? 43:19.196 --> 43:22.177 [SPEAKER_01]: So I actually love the hate comments because I'm like, okay, this is exactly what I want it. 43:22.197 --> 43:23.978 [SPEAKER_01]: At least you're not like, I don't care for it, you know? 43:24.732 --> 43:25.513 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 43:26.254 --> 43:27.154 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly. 43:27.274 --> 43:36.062 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like art and you're an artist and like putting together an event like this with all those details is a form of showing your art to the world. 43:36.182 --> 43:38.725 [SPEAKER_00]: And yes, people are going to love it or people are going to hate it. 43:39.186 --> 43:45.993 [SPEAKER_00]: And there's going to be opinions on that, but I feel like for the most part, like it's seriously incredible what you guys were able to hold on to. 43:46.013 --> 43:46.794 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much. 43:46.994 --> 43:48.455 [SPEAKER_01]: Bravo, super cool. 43:48.615 --> 43:55.943 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, all right, as we close out, like, I mean, I said at the top in your bio, like you were a tattoo artist, like, 43:56.323 --> 44:00.006 [SPEAKER_00]: You do live wedding painting, like, tell me more about your business. 44:00.046 --> 44:07.112 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just trying to be a creative and any possible way that I can, like, I'm obviously not a very tattooed person. 44:07.132 --> 44:15.418 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I've got a few here and there, but it's more about just creating for me and tattooing was just one of those methods of creating. 44:15.799 --> 44:17.440 [SPEAKER_01]: And I weirdly love it. 44:17.520 --> 44:20.923 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, my parents are my dad and my grandpa will find out just like I said. 44:20.983 --> 44:22.204 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just like, you know what? 44:22.544 --> 44:27.727 [SPEAKER_01]: Not like tattooing is like still that, but like a little bit more sex-drop-drop-drop-and-roll, you know, just a little bit more edge to it. 44:28.687 --> 44:36.832 [SPEAKER_01]: But I've been doing that for like five years, and I have loved it so much, and then, yeah, after having my wedding, I'm just like, you just can't keep me away from weddings. 44:36.852 --> 44:38.332 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, how can I get in there again? 44:38.352 --> 44:50.539 [SPEAKER_01]: No, not actually, but just, you know, to find our aspects, like I love doing our, I love painting, and the cousin that had all her wedding dresses, the past wedding dresses at her wedding. 44:52.500 --> 44:53.561 [SPEAKER_01]: Wedding I had ever painted. 44:53.581 --> 44:55.002 [SPEAKER_01]: She was like, hey, I see this online. 44:55.022 --> 44:56.163 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, do you think you could do this? 44:56.243 --> 44:59.046 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, that sounds really scary. 44:59.226 --> 45:00.487 [SPEAKER_01]: And I've never done that before. 45:00.507 --> 45:05.151 [SPEAKER_01]: But that's also the type of thing that I want to run towards when I like don't know how to do something. 45:05.952 --> 45:11.777 [SPEAKER_01]: So I went into this live painting for her and that was so long ago and then I had another friend reach out about it. 45:11.797 --> 45:14.199 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, you know what, I think I could like legit do this. 45:14.259 --> 45:17.181 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like looking up online, no one else in Utah really does it. 45:17.982 --> 45:25.588 [SPEAKER_01]: There's like maybe one or two other people who's like, okay, I'd have a pretty good like, monopoly a little bit on this and like I gotta start this. 45:25.628 --> 45:32.935 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I started that in, I actually launched it on Valentine's Day this year and I've done seven weddings total. 45:33.135 --> 45:38.159 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like, I haven't been doing it for so long, but I definitely love it. 45:38.299 --> 45:38.759 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so, 45:39.460 --> 45:40.481 [SPEAKER_01]: fun to be a part of weddings. 45:40.501 --> 45:48.144 [SPEAKER_01]: Now that I just like love weddings, it's

cool to see what everyone else does for their wedding and just being a part of a day like that, it's so intimate and there's so much love. 45:48.365 --> 45:52.167 [SPEAKER_01]: And I love having my merry me painting that I got proposed to with. 45:52.247 --> 45:58.410 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just so fun to have like such a special thing that I'm like, oh my kids are going to grow up looking at this being like, what's the story? 45:58.430 --> 46:02.352 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, one day they're going to really like know the story and that's just like I can't wait. 46:02.892 --> 46:12.377 [SPEAKER_01]: So to give that experience to other people of like a picture, a painting of their wedding day and just knowing like their kids are just going to grow up like dreaming of that painting, you know, that's just so fun for me. 46:13.903 --> 46:16.345 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's so cool. 46:16.686 --> 46:17.446 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh. 46:17.627 --> 46:18.087 [SPEAKER_00]: I love it. 46:18.187 --> 46:33.284 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so where can people find you on socials to, you know, book you for tattoos or wedding painting or even your account that you're sharing Everything on at Gracie Songer, so if you just want to see an amalgamation of everything, that's kind of where you can find that, but 46:33.744 --> 46:50.430 [SPEAKER_01]: My tattoo account is at ultra.ink.studios on Instagram and then for wedding paintings, it's at the Painted Vow, B-O-W, and TikTok is at Gracie Songer and following me on Pinterest if you want to see some ideas, but that's basically it for social media for me. 46:50.610 --> 46:50.990 [SPEAKER_01]: Nice. 46:51.210 --> 46:51.650 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 46:51.790 --> 46:52.991 [SPEAKER_00]: So cool. 46:53.151 --> 46:55.091 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, this has been so awesome. 46:55.151 --> 46:56.692 [SPEAKER_00]: I love that you share your 46:57.352 --> 47:14.507 [SPEAKER_00]: creative journey, just in process through your wedding planning and with every little detail like I mean a DIY wedding is hard to pull off for sure when you're doing it all yourself but you did such an amazing job at it and 47:15.347 --> 47:27.977 [SPEAKER_00]: So excited for you and your marriage and just all the creative endeavors that you have going on So I so appreciate you coming on the show today and just sharing all of that with us It was amazing. 47:28.037 --> 47:28.637 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much. 47:28.677 --> 47:29.137 [SPEAKER_01]: Happy me. 47:29.197 --> 47:36.403 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like I can talk about my wedding for 10,000 years So the fact that this week got this down to about now is really impressive for me. 47:36.763 --> 47:38.744 [SPEAKER_00]: I know So good. 47:39.025 --> 47:39.645 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh. 47:39.785 --> 47:40.906 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, thanks so much. 47:40.986 --> 47:41.887 [SPEAKER_00]: Have a good life. 47:41.907 --> 47:42.207 [SPEAKER_00]: Bye 47:42.988 --> 48:00.783 [SPEAKER_00]: there you have it another episode of the wedding reporter podcast to see those gorgeous wedding and engagement photos head over to NashvilleBrideGuide.com for more behind-the-scenes content and if you like this episode I would so appreciate it if you would rate and subscribe the show see you next time for another great episode