Transcription complète de 133. How to Switch Off Your 9-5 (So You Can Switch On Your 5-9)

00:03:55.439 But even contacting new clients, old clients, like the list never ends for me. 00:03:55.520 --> 00:04:01.360 And here's the thing: that list never ends whether you run a business or you work in a job. 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:03.599 We are all the same in that respect. 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:06.879 Like, no one is better for having a bigger work-to-do list. 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:09.199 We all have mammoth ones. 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:10.719 Let's not compare, shall we? 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:12.879 I was about to say keep it in your pants. 00:04:13.120 --> 00:04:14.240 So inappropriate. 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:20.720 But I want us to retire the idea that working yourself into the ground is something to be impressed by. 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:23.839 You know, like long hours, seven days a week. 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:25.680 That's not a flex to me. 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:26.879 It's boring. 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:40.560 Like the actual wow moment for me, like the real skill, the real impressive trait that I see in high performers is being exceptional in your nine to five and showing up fully in your five to nine. 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:46.800 Because if you're amazing at your job and you're pooped, the second you clock off, you're doing it wrong. 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:49.439 Like you're actually doing life wrong. 00:04:49.600 --> 00:05:00.160 And if you're crushing it at work, but your evenings and weekends are spent half watching a show that you're not even into while your brain is still at your desk, something needs to change. 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:07.199 So today, five ways to actually switch off your nine to five so that you can switch on your five to nine. 00:05:07.439 --> 00:05:18.800 And I want you to think about what would happen for you if you could actually switch off your nine to five, meaning leaving all the thinking and planning and doing of your job to take place when you're at work. 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:19.759 Can you imagine? 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:25.279 So when you're not at work, you're at home or you're having fun, whatever that looks like for you. 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:30.000 But if you weren't thinking about work from five to nine and then 5 p.m. 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:30.720 you go to bed. 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:32.000 Like that's the idea here, right? 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:34.480 Like in bed, asleep, like Candace Harvey is. 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:37.839 What does your five to nine look like if you're not thinking about work? 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:39.680 What do you think about instead? 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:42.959 What do you do if you're not feeling like you have to keep working? 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:45.920 And sometimes this is actually the hardest part. 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:51.519 Because if people don't have anything else to do except work, then they're gonna work. 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:55.360 And I think that this is something that is very misunderstood. 00:05:55.519 --> 00:06:04.079 This is something that is definitely not thought about enough because people will tell themselves, I love what I do, I love my job, I love working at all hours. 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:06.000 I, yep, okay, cool to a point. 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:10.800 But also, have you actually thought about what you want to do if you weren't working all the time? 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:12.720 And the answer is typically no. 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:21.680 And sometimes this can really dig up some pretty uncomfortable things, like maybe I should be working on my relationship with my wife or my husband. 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:26.079 Maybe I should be actually getting out there and meeting new people because I actually feel quite lonely. 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:32.879 Maybe I should be exploring a different way that I can use my hands or have my creative outlet because I used to do all this and now all I do is work. 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:35.360 But it requires a lot more thinking. 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:39.360 And it can, what's said is said on the tin, it can shake things up. 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:43.680 Like I actually talk about this in my book, The Shake Up, available on Amazon and Audible. 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:51.120 It's like I can't say that last bit without like it just feels weird to say the shakeup book, because this could be the first episode you've ever heard. 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:54.160 This could be the first time you heard that I have a book, right? 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:54.639 I do. 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:56.399 Candace Harvey wrote a book this year. 00:06:56.480 --> 00:06:58.319 It is available on Amazon and Audible. 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:02.800 If you just write in The Shake Up by Candace Harvey, it's it's all yours. 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:04.240 You are so welcome. 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:10.480 But in this book, I actually share a story about how I ran a workshop to a bunch of travel agents. 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:13.120 I love telling this story because it brings it all back for me. 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:15.759 And it was such a huge moment. 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:20.240 It really, I mean, I guess it did shake me up, but it really brought so much to light for me. 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:25.120 But I was running this workshop for a bunch of travel agents and I asked everyone there, what do you guys do for fun? 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:26.720 And they were on a retreat, right? 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:28.160 So they were all having a really great time. 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:30.480 They'd have a they'd had a really big night the night before. 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:33.279 Some of them were a bit dusty, but they were excited for the session. 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:37.920 I remember actually saying to the manager who got me in, I'm like, so they all had a big night last night. 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:38.720 Oh, cool. 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:40.639 And now they get me for a couple of hours. 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:41.279 Brilliant. 00:07:41.439 -->

00:07:44.319 And I remember her literally saying to me, She's like, Oh, Candace, this is what they do. 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:45.199 They're travel agents. 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:46.720 Like they party hard, work hard. 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:47.600 And she wasn't wrong. 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:48.720 She absolutely wasn't wrong. 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:53.120 They loved the session, and the ripple effect of work for me was so cool. 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:57.839 Like I ended up doing quite a bit of work with all of these people individually for their for their teams. 00:07:58.000 --> 00:07:59.040 Anyway, I digress. 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:01.199 The point is they were switched on. 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:02.879 They were loving this workshop. 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:06.079 But when I said to everyone, like, what do you guys do for fun? 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:08.720 The response that I got blew me away. 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:10.959 I got tears, ladies and gents. 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:13.759 Like water from their eyes. 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:15.439 Not one person, not two people. 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:20.800 There was like three or four people who were emotional in this group, like actual people crying. 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:22.079 I was confused. 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:25.759 Like I was also worried that I'd never be asked back ever again. 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:28.560 I was worried I'd be getting the worst Google reviews in history. 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:36.960 However, when I asked, like, what was coming up for the people that were getting emotional, they said, Candace, as travel agents, we work so much we actually don't have time for fun. 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:40.080 And they were super emotional about it, like it hit them in the face. 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:43.840 And I said to them, but if you did have time for fun, what would that look like? 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:45.279 And no one could answer it. 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:48.960 So, okay, they're not having fun, but if you did have time, what would you do? 00:08:49.039 --> 00:08:49.919 And they didn't know. 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:54.080 You can't have fun if you don't know what fun looks like to you. 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:55.279 That's step number one. 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:59.360 So, yes, I'm gonna help you switch off today in your nine to five. 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:01.279 Not today, in this podcast episode today. 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:01.759 You get it? 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:03.279 Yeah, you totally get what I'm putting down. 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:05.919 I'm gonna help you do that from nine to five. 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:11.279 I want you to switch off from it so that you can actually enjoy your five to nine in this episode today. 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:18.639 However, your job after this and after you crush these five steps is to work out what I am gonna do outside of work hours now. 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:20.080 This is actually part of the five steps. 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:22.080 I'm getting ahead of myself, but that's okay. 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:23.840 I get really excited, haven't even started. 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:26.639 So uh let's get into it. 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:36.240 Actually, now that I've I've just digressed myself, I don't know if that's a real sentence, I got a message from a friend of mine this week who listens to every single episode of the Shake Up Podcast. 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:47.039 I think I remember like eight, I don't know, 18 months ago, she even said to me, because we were talking about the podcast, and I'm pretty sure, Jodie, I'm talking to you, uh, about you, not to you, that'd be weird. 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:49.679 Um, but I actually said to her, you should listen to the podcast. 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:53.279 And I'm pretty sure, Jodie, you said you don't listen to podcasts. 00:09:53.440 --> 00:10:01.039 And now all of a sudden, come Monday, she gets it into her ear holes and she likes to message me about it afterwards, which is really, really cool. 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:19.759 But she messaged me this week, Jodie, I've already given her name away, um, and she said that she feels like she gets a real Candace Harvey dose weekly, which is lovely, and she also realizes it's not reciprocated because I don't really hear what's going on from her, uh, but she kind of hears from me every single week, which is really, really lovely. 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:28.480 But she said that she loves it when I go rogue in my episodes because she said it feels like we are literally catching up for coffee and I've just gone off on a tangent, which I sometimes do. 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:29.919 So you're welcome. 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:40.879 I'm glad that you enjoy that because as we know, if this was something that was edited, like I used to get with the Shake Up podcast, Georgia would probably have taken that out and be like, oh, you kind of went off track there a little bit. 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:42.960 But because it's not edited, you're welcome. 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:43.759 You get all of it. 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:49.679 Anyway, five ways to actually switch off your nine to five so you can switch on your five to nine. 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:50.799 Did that actually make sense? 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:51.600 I think it did. 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:56.559 Five ways to actually switch off your nine to five so you can switch on your five to nine. 00:10:56.639 --> 00:10:57.600 Yeah, I want you to switch on. 00:10:57.679 --> 00:10:58.799 Yeah, that totally makes sense. 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:04.559 Okay, number one, the first step, if you are interested in doing this, is reflect and reset. 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:13.600 Now, what I mean by that is switching off from your nine to five actually happens in your nine to five, not when you get home. 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:27.759 It starts at work and it starts by reflecting and resetting, meaning I want you to take time on a Friday if you're wanting to

switch off for the weekend, or take time each afternoon if you're wanting to switch off every five to nine, which is the point as well. 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:36.399 But I want you to do a big one on the weekend because I know that the amount of people that I actually speak to, it is actually the weekends that they struggle to switch off from. 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:39.600 And I've only been speaking to one of my clients about this just recently. 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:50.960 That is what she struggles with the most because she almost gives herself like this permission slip that from Monday to Thursday, specifically, specifically, especially, wrong word there, uh, like it's kind of normal. 00:11:51.039 --> 00:11:52.320 It's like you're allowed to think about work. 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:54.639 Like we're in the work week, like that's totally okay. 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:56.080 I still don't want you to, to be honest. 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:59.840 That's why this is called switching off so that you can enjoy your five to nine. 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:07.919 However, especially on weekends, when you get to the end and then you can go into Saturday and Sunday, I want you to be enjoying your weekend, right? 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:11.679 So this is something, this step especially, that do every day. 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:17.919 Please do this every day, but especially do it on a Friday so that you go into your weekend switching off. 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:26.720 But what I want you to do from a reflect and reset perspective, I want you to look back on what you've done that day or that week, like what you have achieved, what you have ticked off. 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:29.360 And I want you to get really, really clear, right? 00:12:29.440 --> 00:12:30.240 So that's the first thing. 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:32.000 It's looking at what you've achieved. 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:36.159 Like, even right now, as I'm recording this episode, it is Thursday afternoon. 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:38.080 And to think about what I had for breakfast. 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:44.159 Oh no, I do know I had a piece of toast, which was delicious, but it can be really hard to think about what you have done. 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:47.039 Like come Monday, I would have to look at my calendar right now. 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:47.759 Like it's Thursday. 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:48.399 Think about Monday. 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:50.159 I'm like, oh, what do I do on Monday? 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:52.720 A lot of great stuff, but I'd have to think about it, right? 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:55.200 If we don't do that, we will never remember. 00:12:55.440 --> 00:13:00.159 So to be able to have a bit of a reset and go, what have I actually done today? 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:01.840 What have I achieved this week? 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:03.360 What are the things that I'm proud of? 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:08.720 Like really allowing yourself to soak in the stuff that you have smashed out is super, super important. 00:13:08.879 --> 00:13:09.919 So that's the first part. 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:20.000 But then I want you to get really clear on what your top three most important actions are that you want to tackle tomorrow, if you're doing it in the afternoon for the following day. 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:24.480 Or if we're doing it on Friday, it's the three things that you are gonna tackle next week. 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:30.320 So it is allowing yourself to actually go, these are the things that I've done, super proud, well done, you're a bloody legend. 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:33.919 And also these are things that I haven't done yet, but I'm going to. 00:13:34.080 --> 00:13:37.279 As opposed to allowing yourself to spell, oh my God, there's so many things I need to do. 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:38.320 I didn't get on top of everything. 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:42.080 Of course, you didn't get on top of everything, you absolute nutcase. 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:44.799 But you want to get clear on what is the top three things. 00:13:44.960 --> 00:13:50.480 Please note that I did not say write down everything in your head and write a mammoth to-do list. 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:51.519 I didn't say that. 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:53.039 I said three things. 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:57.759 And the reason that I do this, it's getting you really clear on what actually matters. 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:00.399 Everyone can write a lengthy to-do list. 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:03.840 You don't get a medal for the longest one that you can write. 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:05.039 It's not the point. 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:10.480 But you do get a medal for being the type of person who goes, tomorrow, these are the top three things that I need to tackle. 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:13.200 Next week, these are the top three things that I need to tackle. 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:14.399 And I want you to write it down. 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:20.639 It will take you this whole process, the reflecting and the resetting will take you 15 minutes tops. 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:22.720 It is such a quick exercise. 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:26.080 I do it weekly on paper and mentally each day. 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:29.679 So every Friday I write it down because it helps me with my weekend so much. 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:31.360 I've been doing this for years. 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:35.600 But at the end of each day, I used to do it uh on paper as well. 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:38.000 I had a journal, a diary I used to do it for. 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:40.799 Now, the last probably 18 months, I do it mentally. 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:44.320 However, I have clients who do it on paper each day. 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:47.840 Um, and it's just finding what works best for you, right? 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:50.879 But if you're finding doing it mentally doesn't work, write it down. 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:52.480 It will absolutely work. 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:56.559 And if you've never done this before, you're

not allowed to start with the mentally doing it. 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:57.840 I'm sorry, it's just not how it works. 00:14:57.919 --> 00:15:03.440 It's like, you know, when you get a pencil and you have to like practice with your pencil before you get your pen license, it's exactly like this. 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:05.440 You're not allowed to jump straight to the pen license. 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:07.440 No, you're not, you've got to start with the pencil. 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:10.559 So what that means is start by writing it out. 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:13.120 This process is super powerful. 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:17.279 It closes that mental loop that stops work from following you home. 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:24.720 Like you walk out of the office or you close your laptop, being really clear on what you have done, which is a massive sense of accomplishment. 00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:34.080 And you also walk away not feeling overwhelmed by all the things you haven't done yet, but being clear on what is most important for you to tackle at your next nine to five. 00:15:34.159 --> 00:15:35.679 It's written down, it's clear. 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:38.639 So now you can go into your five to nine with a plan. 00:15:38.799 --> 00:15:40.399 There's nothing better than a plan. 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:41.759 Can I just have a sip of my drink, please? 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:42.879 Hold on a second. 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:45.759 Oh, that's better. 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:46.399 Thank you so much. 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:57.679 Okay, the second way to actually switch off your nine to five so you can switch on your five to nine is number two, engage in a task where you can't multitask. 00:15:58.320 --> 00:15:59.039 Oh my god. 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:01.840 Engage in a task where you can't multitask. 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:11.039 So many people go from work to sitting on the couch with their phone in their hand, watching TV, chatting to the kids, phone or laptop in hand. 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:13.360 Zero switching off is taking place. 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:21.759 And the world we live in now, people are making dinner with their iPads, they're folding washing with a podcast on, and all of this is great. 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:27.440 However, when it comes to really switching off, we need to find a task where you can only do one thing. 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:28.399 I love this. 00:16:28.559 --> 00:16:29.679 This is so powerful. 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:34.879 I honestly think, and I was saying this to my friend Mon, I honestly think it's why I love pickleball so much. 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:38.080 Like when I'm playing pickleball, it's all I'm doing. 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:43.279 Or even when I'm at CrossFit with a bunch of other people and my husband as well, it's all I'm doing. 00:16:43.440 --> 00:16:47.200 When your body's occupied, your brain has to actually focus. 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:51.200 Like there's less room left for work thoughts to sneak in. 00:16:51.360 --> 00:17:01.120 So I want you to actually play this game where you're making it harder for yourself to reach for the phone or the laptop and find a task for you where you can't do multiple things at once. 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:02.559 You know, maybe it's swimming. 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:08.319 Even when I go dancing, like you're not doing anything except standing up there and trying to figure out the moves. 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:09.519 Like one thing, dance. 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:13.920 Even if you go for a bike ride, like no one's scrolling social media when they're bike riding. 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:18.160 But find something for you, engage in a task where you can't multitask. 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:23.759 And I honestly think, like back to pickleball, I truly think that it's one of the reasons why it's become so popular lately. 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:27.519 Like I know that you could pick any sport and it would be the same thing. 00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:30.799 But it truly is something that people have a lot of fun with. 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:32.400 You can belt the crap out of it. 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:34.079 It's such a fun ball to belt. 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:35.680 I think that's what I enjoy about it. 00:17:35.839 --> 00:17:38.960 I am not good at pickleball and I am I thoroughly enjoy it. 00:17:39.119 --> 00:17:45.920 Like if anyone wants to, instead of having a coffee with me, say, let's go pick like get pickleball, I will find a space in my calendar. 00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:49.119 Like I am that, I'm that into it. 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:50.720 It is so much fun. 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:55.519 Um, but it is all about the fact that you just can't multitask when you're doing it. 00:17:55.680 --> 00:18:03.359 So if you are really wanting to switch off, it is up to you to think of something where what is a task that I can do where you can't do anything else? 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:05.119 You can only do that. 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:10.880 And you will find that once you've done that, the the feeling that you get, that real, oh my God, I enjoyed it. 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:13.599 That was such a good time, it's because you switched off. 00:18:13.759 --> 00:18:15.599 That is the feeling that we are going for. 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:17.519 I want you to be switched on when you're at work. 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:20.400 I want you to be doing phenomenal things when you are at work. 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:22.400 I am a huge advocate for that. 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:25.359 I work my booty off in work hours and I love it. 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:27.039 I give it everything that I've got. 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:37.440 However, when I start to feel that feeling of it like it's seeping in onto my Saturday, onto my Sunday, which it so very often can do, it's hang on a minute, change the station. 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:41.119 I need to do something where I am focused on that purely. 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:43.279 And it often is having a

lot of fun. 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:50.880 Speaking of fun, the third way to actually switch off your nine to five so that you can switch on your five to nine is have fun. 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:55.359 And I spoke about this in the intro, but I can't stress this enough. 00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:58.319 You have to work out what fun means for you. 00:18:58.559 --> 00:19:04.799 Because what you used to do or what you used to find fun a few years ago, you might not find fun anymore. 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:06.960 Like we change, like you've changed. 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:09.279 So what does fun look like for you now? 00:19:09.440 --> 00:19:11.119 Like, is it baking muffins? 00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:12.240 Is it gardening? 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:14.079 God, this is a new hobby for me, guys. 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:20.400 Like it actually, for those of you who have been around a while, you might know that before I turn 40, I wrote a list. 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:23.519 It's also in my book called The Shake Up available on Amazon and Audible. 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:26.640 But I wrote a list of 40 things I don't want to do before I'm 40. 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:27.759 I talk about in the book. 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:31.759 I've there's probably an episode on it somewhere on the podcast where I have talked about this as well. 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:33.359 It was such a fun exercise. 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:42.079 But I literally wrote down all the things that I would typically go, hell no, I don't want to do that and screw up my face and you know make a big joke about how boring, right? 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:47.519 Like uh golf was on there, keyno was like playing keynote with my brother was on there. 00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:49.359 Um, still probably the most boring. 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:52.160 Like, even though I did it, it was fun because I did it with my brother and I got to tick it off. 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:53.359 But like, I I don't get it. 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:55.279 I'm not really into gambling and all that sort of stuff. 00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:57.920 I'd rather spend my money on other things, you know what I mean? 00:19:58.160 --> 00:19:59.440 Uh, what else was on it? 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:03.839 Uh cook a meal, like a three-course meal for my mum and dad. 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:05.839 Things that I would just be like, no, thank you. 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:09.599 Anyway, long story short, everything on that bloody list I really enjoyed. 00:20:09.839 --> 00:20:18.400 I didn't tick everything off though, because I don't know if this will shock you, but it's kind of boring to do things you don't want to do, even though you have fun doing it. 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:20.960 It's like the lead up is just not fun, you know? 00:20:21.039 --> 00:20:21.839 So there were a few things. 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:22.799 I'm still working through it. 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:24.799 I still have the list, still working through it. 00:20:24.960 --> 00:20:27.519 One of the

things that I didn't do was gardening. 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:29.839 Oh God, now I love it. 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:30.880 I love it. 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:33.519 And I never thought this would come out of my mouth. 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:38.079 And then I feel old because I love it, but I also don't care because it is one of those things. 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:42.160 If we refer to point number two, engage in a task where you can't multitask. 00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:50.640 I feel like when I'm out there and I'm pulling out the dead stuff and I'm cutting back the things that shouldn't be there and I'm planting new things and I'm watering things so they don't die. 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:52.720 By the way, watering is hectic. 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:55.279 Like I literally have to water every single day. 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:58.880 And I watered yesterday and I went out today and I feel like they're dying. 00:20:58.960 --> 00:21:00.880 I'm like, I watered you yesterday. 00:21:01.039 --> 00:21:04.319 It is a relentless hobby, I tell ya. 00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:11.359 Anyway, gardening is something that maybe you don't want to do, but maybe if you did it, you would find that it would go on your fun list. 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:12.240 So give it a crack. 00:21:12.319 --> 00:21:14.079 Don't knock it until you try it, says me. 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:16.480 And if you told me this a few years ago, I'd tell you to jump. 00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:18.880 Anyway, um, what else could it be? 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:21.599 It could be hiking, it could be just going to the beach. 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:24.480 It might be fun for you, is going to lunch with a friend. 00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:27.279 It could be reading, uh, it could be handstands. 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:27.920 That's one of mine. 00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:29.279 Bloody love doing handstands. 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:30.240 Any opportunity I can. 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:34.000 If I've got pants on, I am doing a handstand. 00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:38.000 Like all it requires is an even surface and pants. 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:42.640 If I can tick those two things off, I don't care where I am, handstand is coming your way. 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:43.200 The best. 00:21:43.279 --> 00:21:45.359 Actually, now I think about I have pants on today. 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:50.160 I could absolutely go into the garden beside my plants and do a handstand. 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:52.480 Oh, is there anything more fun? 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:53.599 Stop it. 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:55.920 Uh, it could even be doing puzzles, right? 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:57.920 That I I actually hate doing puzzles. 00:21:58.000 --> 00:21:59.119 That's not my thing at all. 00:21:59.279 --> 00:21:59.759 I don't know. 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:04.240 The attention span, especially if it's a puzzle that's got like a gabillion blue pieces, for example. 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:05.440 Like, shut up. 00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:07.200 That's not fun, you know? 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:11.279 Uh, but you have to decide what fun is for you first and foremost. 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:18.240 Because if you don't have something fun lined up, your default goes straight back to work because it's just an easy option. 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:19.440 It's a familiar option. 00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:21.440 Work is the easy default. 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:23.599 I've caught myself doing that in the past. 00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:26.559 Like all of a sudden I didn't have anything to do on a Saturday afternoon. 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:30.559 So I was like, oh, I might as well just go into the office and catch up on some emails. 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:37.599 You know, next minute I've been there for five hours and then Sunday comes around and I can't stop thinking about the work that I accidentally did on Saturday. 00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:38.720 No shit. 00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:41.200 Work cannot be your default. 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:43.200 And I don't care. 00:22:43.359 --> 00:22:44.799 I actually don't like saying I don't care. 00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:45.759 Sounds really terrible. 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:51.680 I was talking to one of my friends about it this week where she sent me her keynote intro and part of it was like, I don't care. 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:52.720 And I was like, you do care. 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:53.759 Don't say you don't care. 00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:54.960 I actually do care. 00:22:55.200 --> 00:23:01.759 But I I really do not believe that even if, God, that was really hard to reword it. 00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:06.400 Even if you say that you love your job so much, which I get, I love my job too. 00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:07.200 I love it. 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:10.960 It's still not allowed to be the default just because you've got nothing to do. 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:12.640 Like get creative. 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:19.599 You know, spend time thinking about what you would love to do in your five to nine and on weekends when you're not working. 00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:22.799 Allow yourself, like get out a blank piece of paper if that floats your boat. 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:29.119 Like get out your a blank um notes thing on your phone, whatever it is, and just allow yourself to write. 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:34.480 Like if I wasn't doing work, if I wasn't allowed to work, what is fun for me? 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:35.920 And you might be really surprised. 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:40.160 You know, you might sort of start saying, especially now that we're going into summer in Australia, thank God. 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:46.240 It might be things like paddleboarding, it might be things like camping, it might be things like um doing pottery. 00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:52.319 Um I only said pottery because I was reminiscing on all the things that I've done in the past. 00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:56.960 And I went and did pottery a couple of years ago with uh acrylic nails on. 00:23:57.200 --> 00:23:58.880 You idiot,

Candace Harvey. 00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:00.400 The lady looked at me like I had two heads. 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:01.519 I didn't even think it through. 00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:03.119 Like it was pottery on a wheel. 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:03.920 I went on my own. 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:06.480 There was a few other people, but I actually went on my own. 00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:10.640 And she looked at me like, I don't know if you can do that with nails. 00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:11.359 I couldn't. 00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:12.160 It was stupid. 00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:17.440 Anyway, but I want you to get really clear on what is fun to you and start writing it out. 00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:19.839 Get yourself a new book, start writing out a list. 00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:27.200 Because, like I said, if you don't know what you're gonna be doing for fun, your default is to work, which means that you ain't ever switching off, my friend. 00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:28.880 And I want you to because why? 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:30.640 Work is only one part of your life. 00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:39.039 The fourth way to actually switch off your nine to five so that you can switch on your five to nine is to show up for your five to nine. 00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:43.359 What I mean by that, make an effort with your five to nine. 00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:46.000 Don't let it be a sloth session. 00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:48.480 Don't let it be I've had a big day at work. 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:49.279 I get it. 00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:50.240 Like you might have. 00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:59.359 Last night I was uh doing a closing keynote conference in Brisbane, and the build-up to any session I do is always like it's big, right? 00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:00.400 It's a lot of nerves. 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:02.400 There's excitement, there's the come down. 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:12.640 And after the gig, I decided just swing by IKEA before it closed and probably got the, I don't know, the heaviest thing that you could possibly get in like the warehouse section. 00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:15.680 I said to my husband, I was like, I'll get it on the way home, no worries. 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:17.039 Like it was something that I wanted. 00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:21.039 I picked it up, and it was for this part in our house that is so dumb. 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:25.759 Like, I don't know if anyone has areas in their house where they're like, who built this? 00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:28.319 They called it on the plan the study nook. 00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:28.960 It's stupid. 00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:33.440 It's absolutely stupid, but you need to have a piece of furniture in there, otherwise it just looks like a hole in the wall. 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:34.000 It's dumb. 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:36.640 Anyway, I found something perfect, went to IKEA. 00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:38.319 God, Jody, I hope you're enjoying this. 00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:40.160 I am digressing a lot. 00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:42.079 Um, but I quick, I

was pooped, right? 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:47.359 Keynote, IKEA, driving home, peak hour traffic, absolutely exhausted. 00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:57.119 So I called my husband, and because I want to show up for my five to nine, regardless of what's gone on in my nine to five, I said to him, Hey, let's meet at our local tie in 10 minutes. 00:25:57.200 --> 00:25:59.039 Let's not cook, let's have a date night. 00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:01.119 And he was like, absolutely see you there. 00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:02.079 And it was the best. 00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:04.720 We were both pooped, because that can happen with both of us. 00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:12.559 We both have very big, big jobs, but we got to have dinner together across from each other, sharing our day in between yawns was totally fine. 00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:15.839 But it was way better than being at home just on the couch. 00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:26.240 You know, switching off from your nine to five is about actively engaging with the people that you're with, like not just occupy the same space as them, but really make an effort. 00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:30.640 You know, put the phone away, ask real questions, be present when they're talking to you. 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:39.279 Switching off from work is only half the job, but switching on for your people is the other half, and probably the most important part. 00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:41.200 And it does take a lot of effort. 00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:45.839 It is why, honestly, a lot of people just get out their phones and doom scroll. 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:50.079 You know, like you see memes about this, and oh my god, my husband and I have done this before as well. 00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:53.839 Like you're both on the couch and you're both scrolling, you're both in bed and you're both scrolling. 00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:58.160 And the moment I realize, because sometimes you don't realize it, and I get a bit like, oh God, what are we doing? 00:26:58.319 --> 00:26:58.720 Stop. 00:26:58.880 --> 00:26:59.599 Like, stop. 00:26:59.920 --> 00:27:08.000 And we have to like put our phones down, look at each other's cute faces and connect or have a conversation because we just don't want to get into that habit. 00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:13.839 But it is about being really present, switching off from work is only half of it. 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:16.960 Switching on for the other people is the most important. 00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:30.240 So, like, even if you've spent any time with me or oh wait, she's about to say it, read her book or listened to the podcast previously, you will know though, that my least favorite word on the absolute planet is busy. 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:31.759 Ugh, it's the worst word. 00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:32.640 It means nothing. 00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:34.079 It's a conversation stopper. 00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:36.240 It's just so bloody boring, the word busy. 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:41.519 So of course, I've given everyone around me a complex on the word, which I absolutely love. 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:46.880 But when you are wanting to switch off from work, don't speak about it as busy, please. 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:47.359 Right? 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:50.960 When people say how was your day, do not say busy. 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:56.480 Like jump back to number one and allow yourself, which was all about reflecting and resetting, right? 00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:57.279 Which was number one. 00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:01.519 But I want you to jump back to that and allow yourself to answer with some purpose in it. 00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:04.000 Reflect and reset. 00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:05.519 Like, what have you done that day? 00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:07.200 Like what's been going on this week? 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:08.480 What's coming up for you? 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:12.160 Yes, it is easier and lazier to just answer with busy. 00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:14.079 Yep, it absolutely is. 00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:17.359 But the person you're speaking to deserves better. 00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:19.279 And so does your nine to five. 00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:22.640 So make the effort and really show up for your five to nine. 00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:24.400 I actually really enjoyed that. 00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:32.799 I hope that really landed for uh who whoever is listening, whoever is my mum, mum listening, I hope that really landed where it's about making an effort. 00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:35.839 Your default is easy, but make an effort. 00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:44.160 Now, the fifth and final way to actually switch off your nine to five so that you can switch on your five to nine is to hold the boundary. 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:51.039 If you are really serious about being someone who switches off after work, be the type of person who switches off. 00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:55.359 Yes, some of your habits will need changing, of course they will, but change them. 00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:57.359 Change the channel, as I like to say. 00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:00.000 We get to change the channel, it's all a choice. 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:06.400 So with holding the boundary, it is about intentionally turning off your notifications if that is what just kills you. 00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:07.759 Hide your laptop. 00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.920 And I guarantee that you will experience quite a bit of friction. 00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:13.200 Like just know that. 00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:16.000 When you are holding a boundary, you will experience friction. 00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:18.559 I don't know if you need to write that down, but write that down. 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:21.119 Holding a boundary does not just mean it's easy. 00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:24.160 You're turning off notifications or like I said, closing down your laptop. 00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:29.440 I actually said hiding your laptop, which I thought was really funny, and then I just didn't make note of it, but I've talked about it now. 00:29:29.519 -->

00:29:33.359 Uh, like I just picture someone hiding, like we're fully grown adults, right? 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:34.960 Like, I'm gonna put it in the cupboard. 00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:37.920 I'm gonna put it under my pillow, whatever it is. 00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:44.480 But I want you to know that you will feel friction, meaning you will feel discomfort because you don't want to do that. 00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:48.319 It is much easier to keep working, it is much easier to scroll on your phone. 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:50.640 You will experience discomfort. 00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:54.720 You might even feel a bit of guilt and shame and anxiety. 00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:57.359 I've actually spoken to a lot of clients about this as well. 00:29:57.440 --> 00:29:59.440 Like they feel like I should be doing this. 00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:00.960 I didn't get enough done that day. 00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:02.559 I didn't do enough last week. 00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:03.920 I need to catch up. 00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:06.880 Like you'll start to tell yourself all of these things. 00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:12.160 Also, your nine to five will be there tomorrow or the following week. 00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:15.359 But this is not about your nine to five, it's about your five to nine. 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:23.599 And it really is about realizing that if you do feel guilt, shame, anxiety, you won't die. 00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:27.519 But for a really long time, what's happened is you haven't been switching off. 00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.400 You've been allowing yourself to stay switched on. 00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:32.240 And habits are really tricky to change. 00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:41.519 But once you realize how much better life is when you're exceptional in your nine to five and you're loving your five to nine more than ever before, it'll be worth it. 00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:53.039 So holding the boundary is all about knowing that there's going to be discomfort there of doing this because, like I said, it's easier to default to work, but knowing that you want to be the type of person who switches off. 00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:55.359 Switch on when you've got to and switch off. 00:30:55.519 --> 00:31:00.640 I was even talking to a phenomenal bloody human today, this morning. 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:03.839 Uh, I was like, what has gone on today? 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:12.400 Um, incredible bloody human, absolutely loved her, and she has a massive team, she's got an incredible organization, like a huge business. 00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:20.079 And when she was talking about the way that she sets things up, because she said that she's on social media quite a lot, and people actually say to her, God, you're busy, you do so much. 00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:24.720 And she's like, Yeah, in in the hours that I want to, and then when I'm home, it's family first. 00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:28.240 And she has this real routine, it was a beautiful routine, actually. 00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:30.880 Every

single morning, she said it's her non-negotiable. 00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:36.559 She goes for a coffee with herself and she reads a few pages of the Bible and she goes through what she's got to do for the day. 00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:38.160 She's like, That's my non-negotiable. 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:41.920 And I was like, I love that that is your non-negotiable. 00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:43.839 Like, I just thought that was so great. 00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:52.319 And then she said it in the evenings, it's all about my family, and holidays are really important, and and weekends away, and time with her mum and her dad, and she's got two kids, a husband. 00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:54.079 I was like, oh, it's great. 00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:56.640 But it's actually not easy in the beginning, is my point. 00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:02.400 She said there was a time where she was just this complete people pleaser, and she ended up going and doing a lot of therapy about it. 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:10.160 It's like, you keep living this life where you are saying yes to everyone, doing all the things, leaving yourself to last, you will burn out and you will be useless. 00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:13.359 And she was apparently at a stage where it was like, I am at that point. 00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:15.599 Like I'm I'm exhausted saying yes to everything. 00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:16.319 And now she doesn't. 00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:17.359 And she said it's hard. 00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:18.160 It's really hard. 00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:22.240 Holding the boundary, which is number five, is really, really challenging. 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:23.440 It feels uncomfortable. 00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:25.599 It feels like you're, you know, doing the wrong thing. 00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:36.960 It feels like you're pushing back on people, but actually you're holding yourself to a higher regard and you're allowing yourself to be the type of person who can switch off from nine to five, which, like I said at the beginning, is an absolute flex. 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:38.960 It is an absolute flex. 00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:41.519 Anybody can work long hours. 00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:43.279 Anyone can default to work. 00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:45.599 Anyone can say that they just work 24-7. 00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:50.319 Whenever I hear people say that, I immediately I'm like, that's not cool. 00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:51.359 Like it's just not. 00:32:51.519 --> 00:33:01.200 But when I hear people saying my laptop's down at five, I want to, I focus, I play, I do this, I'm going out to pickleball or I can't have this meeting now because I'm going swimming or whatever, I'm like, I love that. 00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:03.200 Go do things where you can't multitask. 00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:04.400 Go switch off. 00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:05.920 So that is it. 00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:07.920 Reflect and reset number one. 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:10.079 Number two, do something you can't multitask through. 00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:13.759 Number three, work out what fun actually means for you, please. 00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.960 Number four, show up properly for your five to nine. 00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:21.200 And number five, hold the boundary even when it's absolutely uncomfortable. 00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:23.200 None of these are actually complicated. 00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:28.400 Like you don't need an app, a retreat, or a Sunday night ritual with candles. 00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:30.960 You just need to close the loop at work. 00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:33.599 Pick one thing that you can't half do. 00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:36.720 And then actually be where your feet are once you're home. 00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:37.519 Be present. 00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:38.160 That's it. 00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:39.839 That's the whole system. 00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:42.799 And look, you are not gonna nail all five this week. 00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:43.839 Start with one. 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:46.640 Maybe it's just answering what did you actually do today? 00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:52.400 And instead of saying busy, really allow yourself to tell them what you did. 00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:58.960 You know, even if you did have a day where you were back to Mac meetings, you're allowed to say, I had a day today where I was in back to back meetings. 00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:01.119 I had a meeting with one guy, I had the entire team. 00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:02.960 I had that like answer the question. 00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:05.839 Saying busy is awful. 00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:09.039 Like I said, the person who's asking the question deserves better. 00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:10.880 And also, so does your nine to five. 00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:14.960 To have an entire day dedicated to something and all you spit out is busy. 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:16.079 Come on. 00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:21.840 There were people that you met, there were things that you did, there were emails that you pushed out, there were like share it, right? 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:24.719 So maybe that is all you decide to do this week. 00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:25.840 Ban busy. 00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:28.159 If I've given you a complex, you're welcome. 00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:34.159 But even if your one thing that you want to do this week, maybe it's leaving the phone in another room at dinner, right? 00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.239 Like really not allowing it to be anywhere. 00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:39.199 And that could be something where you're listening to and go, I already do that, Candace. 00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:40.000 Well done, you. 00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:40.960 So proud of you. 00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:44.079 For other people, though, go put it in another room. 00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:44.559 Right? 00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:45.599 And it might feel weird. 00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:47.679 You might be like, I always have my phone beside me. 00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:48.239 Cool. 00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:49.519 Hold the friction. 00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:50.480 It's okay. 00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:57.360 But pick the one that almost annoyed you the most while you were listening to me today, the thing that I said that made you want to argue it with me. 00:34:57.599 --> 00:34:59.679 That's usually the one that you need. 00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:02.000 Because here's what I actually want for you. 00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:06.159 I don't want you to be impressive at work and pooped everywhere else. 00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:12.480 I want you to be exceptional in your nine to five and genuinely properly switched on for your five to nine. 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:13.440 That's the flex. 00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.079 That's the whole freaking point. 00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:19.840 So go switch off, have fun in your five to nine. 00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:22.880 And if oh I just pressed the wrong button. 00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:24.960 Wrong button again. 00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:26.239 There it is. 00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:27.119 Go switch off. 00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:28.639 Go have fun in your five to nine. 00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:32.880 And if you think this episode was worth it, maybe your friends need a listen as well. 00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:34.000 Please send it to them. 00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.159 And if you share it on socials, tag me in. 00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:37.199 I would love that. 00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:38.559 Thank you so much. 00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:41.519 Until next time, go have fun and shake things up.