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WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.299 --> 00:00:06.900 This is The Other Side of Midnight. 2 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:08.660 They're running a strange program, y'all. 3 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:10.179 With Walter Sterling. 4 00:00:14.789 --> 00:00:17.629 There's this new trend now on X and probably some 5 00:00:17.649 --> 00:00:21.329 of the other social media platforms where we're getting these 6 00:00:21.589 --> 00:00:28.359 AI-generated stories. And they're not necessarily real. And there was 7 00:00:28.500 --> 00:00:30.500 one that I really, really liked. I was aware it 8 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:32.969 probably wasn't a true story. But it was just a 9 00:00:32.990 --> 00:00:37.210 beautiful depiction of a kindness that a particular woman who 10 00:00:37.250 --> 00:00:42.409 was a barber hairdresser had done for a man coming 11 00:00:42.450 --> 00:00:45.229 into her shop. And I just said it was beautiful 12 00:00:45.289 --> 00:00:48.630 because it is beautiful, even if it is an AI-generated story. 13 00:00:48.869 --> 00:00:52.909 And here and there, there's people who just had to 14 00:00:52.950 --> 00:00:54.810 be really nasty about it. It's like if you're the 15 00:00:54.829 --> 00:00:58.490 kind of person who needs to be nasty, who needs 16 00:00:58.570 --> 00:01:02.979 to be contrary... You know, in the face of beauty, 17 00:01:03.060 --> 00:01:05.219 even if it's computer generated, what does it matter? It 18 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:08.040 was a beautiful story of kindness. It doesn't matter if 19 00:01:08.060 --> 00:01:08.819 it's real or not. 20 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:11.030 It doesn't. 21 00:01:11.049 --> 00:01:13.409 It would matter if I reported it as a real story. 22 00:01:13.450 --> 00:01:15.349 I said, you know, that's different. But I'm just talking 23 00:01:15.370 --> 00:01:18.590 about it was a beautiful thing. And, you know, four 24 00:01:18.609 --> 00:01:21.790 or five people just couldn't help but say, this isn't real. 25 00:01:21.810 --> 00:01:23.569 You're an idiot. It's like, wow. You know, it's like 26 00:01:24.430 --> 00:01:28.950 the rejection of a kindness, rejection of beauty, rejection of 27 00:01:29.750 --> 00:01:33.409 something that touches people is, man, I just hope I 28 00:01:33.450 --> 00:01:35.959 never get that reflex. I hope I'm never that guy. 29 00:01:35.980 --> 00:01:42.260 That's all I can say. We're talking war movies now, 30 00:01:42.299 --> 00:01:44.700 which is interesting. We've morphed from bagels to war movies, 31 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:48.079 which is really appropriate. This is Veterans Day. And there 32 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:50.670 are so many great war movies. Sometimes, you know, there 33 00:01:50.689 --> 00:01:54.129 was a time when Hollywood really helped America get a 34 00:01:54.390 --> 00:01:58.090 good perspective about itself, really respected our true heroes. I 35 00:01:58.109 --> 00:02:01.489 think now, Hollywood acts as so much of an enemy 36 00:02:01.510 --> 00:02:02.689 of the people. And a lot of it has to 37 00:02:02.730 --> 00:02:05.129 do with, let's face it, a lot of it has 38 00:02:05.150 --> 00:02:07.290 to do with the Chinese investment and the Chinese money 39 00:02:07.329 --> 00:02:11.939 in Hollywood, Hollywood's desire to please the Chinese market. You know, 40 00:02:11.960 --> 00:02:15.439 the reason why they keep making these superhero movies is 41 00:02:15.460 --> 00:02:17.740 because you really don't need to understand the language to 42 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:21.659 sort of follow them. You don't really have to have subtitles. 43 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:25.560 And you can dub in dialogue when the when you're 44 00:02:25.580 --> 00:02:27.650 not seeing the actual characters they're flying and i can 45 00:02:27.659 --> 00:02:29.509 see their mouth moves so it doesn't look odd like 46 00:02:29.550 --> 00:02:32.629 the old the old kung fu movies in the 70s 47 00:02:32.650 --> 00:02:34.050 that used to get dubbed and it was just so 48 00:02:34.110 --> 00:02:36.590 obviously you know not not matching the movement of the 49 00:02:36.629 --> 00:02:40.509 lips it was hilarious um right now i just see 50 00:02:40.550 --> 00:02:45.330 hollywood as being a real enemy of the american the 51 00:02:45.349 --> 00:02:49.020 american society just really do i'm sorry I can go 52 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:51.310 into a lot of reasons why I think that, but again, 53 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:53.370 there have been some exceptions to the rule. Oppenheimer was 54 00:02:53.430 --> 00:02:56.469 a fantastic film. We're hearing that this Jimmy Stewart movie 55 00:02:56.509 --> 00:02:58.729 was great. Thank God. I hope it is. I've been 56 00:02:58.770 --> 00:03:01.789 very worried about it because it's a topic near and 57 00:03:01.830 --> 00:03:05.009 dear to my heart, so I'm hoping that. Mary in Chicago, 58 00:03:05.060 --> 00:03:06.639 you want to talk about Band of Brothers, which is 59 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:10.740 also something that came out of a Stephen Ambrose book. 60 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:11.080 Go ahead. 61 00:03:12.310 --> 00:03:12.689 You know what? 62 00:03:12.949 --> 00:03:13.460 I do want to. 63 00:03:13.689 --> 00:03:16.409 That other caller reminded me of another. 64 00:03:16.110 --> 00:03:17.050 Movie that is. 65 00:03:17.490 --> 00:03:20.939 Anybody who's looking for a new, fresh movie about World 66 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:22.759 War II would like this. I did not think it 67 00:03:22.819 --> 00:03:25.400 was going to be anything. It was called Pressure, and 68 00:03:25.419 --> 00:03:28.099 it was starring Brandon Fraser, who I'm thinking, come on, 69 00:03:28.180 --> 00:03:32.159 it's George of the Jungle. But it turned out to be... 70 00:03:32.300 --> 00:03:35.479 It was the sidekick who really stole the show. I 71 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:38.509 would recommend it. It was like old school... and really 72 00:03:38.550 --> 00:03:41.030 well done. And it did not disappoint. 73 00:03:41.169 --> 00:03:43.580 Well, Brendan Fraser was also in
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school ties though, which 74 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:46.080 is a great movie. Still holds up with, with Matt 75 00:03:46.099 --> 00:03:49.099 Damon and, and unknown Matt Damon at the time, unknown 76 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:51.280 Ben Affleck. Uh, that's a great man. 77 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:52.020 Uh, yeah, yeah. 78 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:56.469 I mean, he's been in some goofy films. That's for sure. 79 00:03:56.539 --> 00:03:58.770 No, it was okay, but it was the other guy 80 00:03:58.789 --> 00:03:59.569 who really paid off. 81 00:03:59.710 --> 00:04:02.250 Anybody would like this movie, but getting back to band 82 00:04:02.310 --> 00:04:05.099 of brothers, I would say I, um, I got the 83 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:07.099 part where they had the real guys. 84 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:07.939 They interspersed. 85 00:04:08.379 --> 00:04:09.919 Oh, yeah. 86 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:12.250 And they almost all, a lot of them said. 87 00:04:12.110 --> 00:04:14.310 The same thing. Like, we looked at. 88 00:04:14.270 --> 00:04:18.610 Those 18-year-old soldiers that died. They were our fellow Americans. 89 00:04:18.670 --> 00:04:21.120 And we almost all said they were the lucky ones 90 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:22.379 because here they. 91 00:04:22.300 --> 00:04:24.600 Were, like, frostbitten, freezing. 92 00:04:25.420 --> 00:04:28.079 Starving and they just had to keep going on. 93 00:04:28.300 --> 00:04:30.920 So they were never relieved. I mean, they, you know, 94 00:04:30.939 --> 00:04:33.180 there was never like this moment where they realized that 95 00:04:33.220 --> 00:04:35.699 the Pentagon, Oh, these guys have been in contiguous duty, 96 00:04:35.930 --> 00:04:38.889 continuous duty for all these months and years. Like it's 97 00:04:38.930 --> 00:04:41.569 time to rotate them out. And they never did. They 98 00:04:41.610 --> 00:04:41.970 never did. 99 00:04:42.029 --> 00:04:44.329 Well, there's nothing stronger than an 18 year old man, 100 00:04:44.389 --> 00:04:45.120 but come on. 101 00:04:45.389 --> 00:04:47.379 I just, it's really, it's a beautiful thing. 102 00:04:48.589 --> 00:04:54.189 Yeah, it's important. Again, all the Stephen Ambrose books, I 103 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:59.120 had a chance to interview him. Stephen Ambrose, his amount 104 00:04:59.139 --> 00:05:03.040 of his work was unbelievable. He did three books on 105 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:06.259 Richard Nixon. He did many books on Eisenhower. He did 106 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:10.149 many books on both the Pacific and the European theaters 107 00:05:10.189 --> 00:05:13.110 in the war. Just an amazing, amazing person who was 108 00:05:13.129 --> 00:05:15.170 very astute. And I had a chance to interview him 109 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:20.240 her radio story once back in 1994, after the Republicans 110 00:05:20.300 --> 00:05:22.620 shockingly took control of Congress that year. And we talked 111 00:05:22.660 --> 00:05:27.009 about how Eisenhower felt in 54 when the Republicans lost 112 00:05:27.050 --> 00:05:30.029 Congress and how he was secretly happy because now he 113 00:05:30.089 --> 00:05:33.939 felt like he could get stuff done. But anyway, thank you, Mary. 114 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:37.160 Jimmy in Panama City, you also want to talk about 115 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:37.720 war movies. 116 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:39.360 Yes. 117 00:05:40.420 --> 00:05:43.720 Uh, first thing I would like to say is, uh, 118 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:47.540 I'm wearing a dog tag around my neck and I 119 00:05:47.620 --> 00:05:53.139 never knew my grandfather on my father's side of the 120 00:05:53.180 --> 00:05:59.120 family was in world war one. And, uh, I didn't 121 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:03.040 even know my cousin found them. His name was Robert 122 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:10.300 Lee par and, uh, it's round. Nobody knows what it is, 123 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:14.980 but I wear that. And I also knew another incredible man. 124 00:06:15.579 --> 00:06:21.120 His name was Dick Hostetler. I knew him from Mesquite, Nevada. 125 00:06:21.939 --> 00:06:30.060 And we called him German Dick. His parents, his mother 126 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:37.009 lived in Germany when Hitler started taking over. And him 127 00:06:37.050 --> 00:06:41.689 and his brother wound up being Hitler Youth. And his 128 00:06:41.829 --> 00:06:46.709 brother took quite to it. And Dick didn't. His mother 129 00:06:46.790 --> 00:06:49.250 didn't like it at all. And she got him out 130 00:06:49.290 --> 00:06:52.509 of there. He came over here. And he served 20 131 00:06:52.509 --> 00:06:57.860 years in Coast Guard. But the movie I was calling 132 00:06:57.939 --> 00:07:02.439 about was, I remember the movie. It was black and white. 133 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:09.230 The B-17 to me. It's the prettiest airplane ever made. 134 00:07:09.250 --> 00:07:14.750 I got to take a tour of the Spiritus. No, 135 00:07:14.769 --> 00:07:22.930 that was Charles. Sentimental Journey. Okay. All polished aluminum and 136 00:07:22.949 --> 00:07:29.680 a beautiful B-17. And this movie, that was the plane 137 00:07:29.699 --> 00:07:32.259 they flew, and it was 12 o'clock high. 138 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:33.339 Right. 139 00:07:34.089 --> 00:07:34.269 Yeah. 140 00:07:34.290 --> 00:07:37.170 That's a great film. That's a great film too. So 141 00:07:37.189 --> 00:07:37.990 many great ones. 142 00:07:38.350 --> 00:07:38.589 Yeah. 143 00:07:38.750 --> 00:07:39.550 So many great ones. 144 00:07:40.649 --> 00:07:44.709 I don't remember who starred in it or anything. I 145 00:07:44.810 --> 00:07:49.040 just remember the movie and that I enjoyed it and 146 00:07:49.829 --> 00:07:54.620 being in a sentimental journey and they took all the 147 00:07:54.779 --> 00:07:58.639 armament out of it so they can carry more ammunition 148 00:07:58.740 --> 00:07:59.300 in the airplane. 149 00:07:59.399 --> 00:07:59.699 That's right. 150 00:07:59.860 --> 00:08:02.079 That's right. But they put the, they put the crew 151
00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:04.000 at risk in that way and they, So many of 152 00:08:04.019 --> 00:08:06.170 them died in those planes. 153 00:08:07.750 --> 00:08:12.389 It was a beer can, really. I mean, the bullets 154 00:08:12.449 --> 00:08:14.930 had to come through there and rip. And when you're 155 00:08:14.990 --> 00:08:20.750 standing there and they had, I guess they were actual guns, 156 00:08:20.850 --> 00:08:24.189 like a door gunner would use and stuff. But of course, 157 00:08:24.230 --> 00:08:28.939 they didn't work. But I can't imagine being 18, 19 158 00:08:28.930 --> 00:08:37.830 years 44, 35, 65, and be standing there and just 159 00:08:37.870 --> 00:08:42.350 having to pick it out. And then the belly gutter, 160 00:08:42.870 --> 00:08:46.200 that little door they had to go through to get 161 00:08:46.259 --> 00:08:49.480 into there, and if it took a wrong shot, it 162 00:08:49.539 --> 00:08:52.240 was over. They were stuck in that airplane. 163 00:08:52.860 --> 00:08:54.440 But we had a lot of them and we had 164 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:57.500 so many of them that, you know, we could overcome 165 00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:02.039 the structural defects or the many. And the same thing 166 00:09:02.059 --> 00:09:03.899 was true of the Sherman tank, which, by the way, 167 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:07.220 Stephen Ambrose talks about the Sherman tank in this regard 168 00:09:07.259 --> 00:09:09.960 in that, you know, they broke down. But at that time, 169 00:09:10.059 --> 00:09:12.750 most American boys knew how to tinker with an engine, 170 00:09:13.730 --> 00:09:17.889 whereas the Panzer was so sophisticated and hard to figure out. 171 00:09:18.460 --> 00:09:20.460 that the German boys couldn't figure out how to get 172 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:23.200 under the hood there. And that was a major part 173 00:09:23.220 --> 00:09:26.159 of it. Thank you, Jimmy, in Florida. Robert in Manhattan. 174 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:28.360 You want to talk World War II stuff. Go ahead, Robert. 175 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:32.019 Good morning, Jake. You know, the best tank in the world, 176 00:09:32.139 --> 00:09:35.019 and most military will tell you what it was, it 177 00:09:35.090 --> 00:09:37.500 wasn't the Panzer and it wasn't the Sherman. It was 178 00:09:37.950 --> 00:09:41.190 the T-34. 179 00:09:41.250 --> 00:09:41.809 The Russian one. 180 00:09:42.169 --> 00:09:45.889 And if you don't believe that, just watch anything on 181 00:09:45.950 --> 00:09:50.700 the Battle of Kursk. July 1943, a tank battle, which 182 00:09:50.779 --> 00:09:53.730 is the greatest tank battle in history, 6,000 tanks on 183 00:09:53.769 --> 00:09:57.350 both sides. Anyway, you mentioned the Civil War. The one 184 00:09:57.389 --> 00:09:59.940 movie that I recommend to people, but it is not. 185 00:10:00.090 --> 00:10:03.330 not an easy movie to watch, Andersonville. 186 00:10:03.350 --> 00:10:05.029 Yeah, I knew you were going to say that. Yeah, 187 00:10:05.070 --> 00:10:06.970 great movie about the prisoner of war camp. 188 00:10:07.250 --> 00:10:10.500 Yes. Now, I'll give you quickly, before I tell you 189 00:10:10.509 --> 00:10:13.500 why I called you, my favorite movies were World War II. 190 00:10:14.129 --> 00:10:17.960 Not in this order, but just midway. Midway is one. 191 00:10:17.980 --> 00:10:18.470 That's a good one. 192 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:25.799 Guadalcanal Diary, based on Richard Trigaskis' book, Guns of Navarone, 193 00:10:26.980 --> 00:10:30.240 and its sequel, Force 10. And one of the reasons 194 00:10:30.500 --> 00:10:34.019 is I taught World War II to high school students. 195 00:10:34.100 --> 00:10:37.360 I'm a World War II aficionado, and I remember all 196 00:10:37.419 --> 00:10:40.950 the great World War II television programs from the 50s. 197 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:46.200 The greatest was Victory at Sea, with the great musical 198 00:10:46.259 --> 00:10:52.330 score by Robert Russell and Richard Rogers, Leonard Gray, based 199 00:10:52.590 --> 00:10:56.980 on Samuel Elliott Mars and his incredible naval history. And 200 00:10:57.000 --> 00:11:01.059 the musical score is wonderful. The 26 episodes, if you 201 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:04.279 can ever find them, Jake, are wonderful. Let me ask 202 00:11:04.299 --> 00:11:07.600 you a question. How familiar are you with the war 203 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:11.070 on the Eastern Front? And I have two reasons for 204 00:11:12.169 --> 00:11:19.289 asking you that question. You know, Eisenhower... wanted to coordinate D-Day, 205 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:24.960 and he actually did. June 6, 1944, when we landed 206 00:11:25.379 --> 00:11:29.840 on Omaha in Utah, the Russians opened up a campaign 207 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:35.519 called Operation Bagration to clear the Germans from Belarus and 208 00:11:35.539 --> 00:11:38.460 the Ukraine at the very time that we were invading. 209 00:11:39.139 --> 00:11:42.830 You know that the Russians were the first ones to discover, 210 00:11:43.129 --> 00:11:46.330 you know, the murder camps were not in Germany. There 211 00:11:46.370 --> 00:11:49.090 were terrible camps in Germany, but the six murder camps 212 00:11:49.129 --> 00:11:52.669 were in Poland. And one of them was Majdanek. And 213 00:11:52.710 --> 00:11:56.509 the Russians discovered Majdanek in the summer of 1944. And 214 00:11:58.289 --> 00:12:02.370 when they let the news out to the West, sadly enough, Jake, 215 00:12:02.649 --> 00:12:05.970 very few believed it. They thought it was Russian propaganda. 216 00:12:06.169 --> 00:12:09.929 Yeah, you know, anyone who was in the death camps 217 00:12:09.970 --> 00:12:13.149 will tell you that the death camps that were liberated 218 00:12:13.190 --> 00:12:16.559 by the Russians, there was no messing around. The Russians 219 00:12:16.620 --> 00:12:19.899 took all the officers, and there weren't a lot of Germans. 220 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:22.960 There were a lot of Ukrainians who were Nazis. They 221 00:12:23.000
--> 00:12:25.350 lined them up and shot them. They didn't waste any time. 222 00:12:25.830 --> 00:12:29.610 The Americans got to the death camps, Bergen-Belsen most notably, 223 00:12:30.070 --> 00:12:32.350 and were like, what's going on here? And then to 224 00:12:32.389 --> 00:12:36.029 his credit, when Eisenhower got there, he marched the local 225 00:12:36.090 --> 00:12:38.269 citizens through the place so they could never say they 226 00:12:38.289 --> 00:12:39.330 didn't know what was going on. 227 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:42.590 And you know the funny thing about that? They showed 228 00:12:42.850 --> 00:12:46.629 the troops. Now, a lot of those people, you know, 229 00:12:46.809 --> 00:12:49.980 went home and they did themselves in. They couldn't understand. Oh, 230 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:52.460 we didn't know what was going on, but they made 231 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:53.720 them dig graves. 232 00:12:54.019 --> 00:12:55.620 Yeah. 233 00:12:55.820 --> 00:12:58.759 It was amazing. Jake, this is a great, great show. 234 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:01.919 As a World War II aficionado, you and I could 235 00:13:01.970 --> 00:13:04.769 discuss a lot of World War II movies and a 236 00:13:04.830 --> 00:13:07.889 lot of things in World War II, like the diaper 237 00:13:07.950 --> 00:13:13.370 rebellion in Belgrade, which may have changed what happened in Russia, 238 00:13:14.049 --> 00:13:21.169 which may have saved Moscow. So I'm very glad that 239 00:13:23.570 --> 00:13:28.100 we did what we did in World War II. It 240 00:13:28.129 --> 00:13:34.100 was the war, the right war, and it's emotional. And 241 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:37.840 I did not, and you know, I will say one thing. 242 00:13:37.980 --> 00:13:40.039 One of the things that I love about World War 243 00:13:40.100 --> 00:13:46.139 II is Do you even know that even cartoons, animated shorts, 244 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:50.559 you want to see something very interesting. You want to 245 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:54.240 see the cartoon where Popeye tries to convince his nephews 246 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:56.919 to start a victory garden. It is hilarious. 247 00:13:56.940 --> 00:13:59.330 I think I've seen some of that. Yeah, it's good stuff. Anyway, 248 00:13:59.370 --> 00:14:02.750 thank you so much, Robert, and thank you for all 249 00:14:02.769 --> 00:14:05.370 your work and your teaching of young people about World 250 00:14:05.389 --> 00:14:08.769 War II. So very important, and you know it's not 251 00:14:08.789 --> 00:14:11.940 in the curriculum anymore. In too many schools, that's for sure. 252 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:14.740 Jim in Chicago, you want to talk some war stories? 253 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:15.259 Go ahead, Jim. 254 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:21.120 Yeah, good show. A couple things real fast. My favorite 255 00:14:21.139 --> 00:14:25.799 movie wasn't really a movie. It was a documentary that 256 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:32.230 we got from the Japanese that filmed the bombing of 257 00:14:32.289 --> 00:14:37.269 Pearl Harbor. They filmed the whole thing. And on this documentary, 258 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:41.419 And there were things that we weren't aware of, like 259 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:45.240 there was a mini-sub that was in the harbor. How 260 00:14:45.259 --> 00:14:47.539 did that get in? We didn't even weren't aware of 261 00:14:47.639 --> 00:14:52.379 it until we watched, you know, they watched the documentary 262 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:56.220 that they filmed the whole thing, and it's phenomenal. But 263 00:14:56.399 --> 00:15:01.740 my story is my neighbor across the street from me says, Hey, 264 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:04.639 DJ's on, so are you going to watch that stuff? 265 00:15:05.179 --> 00:15:08.580 He looks at me, he goes... I don't watch any 266 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:11.899 of that crap. I don't have to. I was there. 267 00:15:12.500 --> 00:15:15.250 You got a minute? And I says, yeah, why? I says, 268 00:15:15.289 --> 00:15:17.909 come into my house. I come up in his house. 269 00:15:18.289 --> 00:15:22.490 He comes down with a briefcase, opens it up. He's 270 00:15:22.529 --> 00:15:28.389 got four bronze stars. Wow. A letter of valor, a 271 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:33.840 letter from the president. He also had the gun that 272 00:15:33.940 --> 00:15:36.990 misfired that would have killed him. He's got that as 273 00:15:37.090 --> 00:15:42.289 a keepsake. He's held on to that. And for him 274 00:15:42.330 --> 00:15:46.320 to tell the story, you know, they had landed on 275 00:15:46.379 --> 00:15:52.460 D-Day and that. And it's like, wow, no way. Unbelievable. 276 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:57.330 You know, so many of the World War II veterans 277 00:15:57.379 --> 00:15:59.850 are dying out. We're really getting to that last stage 278 00:15:59.889 --> 00:16:03.049 now where anyone who was really an active, soldier or 279 00:16:03.129 --> 00:16:05.230 sailor in world war ii you know we're really i 280 00:16:05.590 --> 00:16:07.970 think every day some ridiculously high number of them pass 281 00:16:08.029 --> 00:16:11.279 away and that's a dangerous moment for us as a 282 00:16:11.299 --> 00:16:15.279 country where we have no more firsthand people to talk 283 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:17.120 about it anyway jim thank you so much for your 284 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:20.240 for your stories and uh we'll have more this on 285 00:16:20.259 --> 00:16:23.110 this veterans day edition of the other side of midnight 286 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:25.490 i'm jake novak in for walter sterling we'll be. 287 00:16:25.490 --> 00:16:30.049 Right back the other side of midnight with walter sterling 288 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:45.720 It's The Other Side of Midnight with Walter Sterling. 289 00:16:48.710 --> 00:16:51.450 We have gotten around during these few hours of this program, 290 00:16:51.490 --> 00:16:53.909 haven't we? On this edition of The Other Side of Midnight, 291 00:16:53.950 --> 00:16:56.490 we were talking about bagels,
we've got war movies, we've 292 00:16:56.529 --> 00:16:59.490 got all kinds of stuff. I'm Jake Novak. In for 293 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:02.490 my friend Walter Sterling this evening. By the way, in 294 00:17:02.529 --> 00:17:05.250 my book, the two best Beach Boys songs are I 295 00:17:05.549 --> 00:17:10.150 Get Around and Good Vibrations. And talking about movies, I 296 00:17:10.210 --> 00:17:14.349 highly recommend the movie Love and Mercy with John Cusack. 297 00:17:14.630 --> 00:17:16.500 And I forgot the name of the actor who played 298 00:17:16.519 --> 00:17:20.160 the younger Brian Wilson. It is an incredible movie because 299 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:23.579 it delves into the mental anguish of Brian Wilson, but 300 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:26.440 also a lot of the music. And there's a very 301 00:17:26.500 --> 00:17:28.500 good segment of the movie where they look at the 302 00:17:29.490 --> 00:17:34.210 recording and production of good vibrations. Uh, and it's just a, although, 303 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:35.700 you know, I know we're playing get around right now, 304 00:17:35.740 --> 00:17:39.819 but great movie and a good example of how that 305 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:44.640 in some cases, the line between genius and mental illness 306 00:17:44.660 --> 00:17:48.200 is very thin. And sometimes people cross over back and forth, 307 00:17:48.700 --> 00:17:52.430 really good film, uh, highly recommended. Uh, you know, I, 308 00:17:52.420 --> 00:17:58.069 I think about how best to honor veterans and parades 309 00:17:58.130 --> 00:18:03.859 are great. And talking about their stories are great. You know, 310 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:05.940 even if they weren't in a war and certainly even 311 00:18:05.980 --> 00:18:07.759 if they weren't wounded or anything else like that, what 312 00:18:07.779 --> 00:18:10.140 did it mean, you know, to work in a military, 313 00:18:10.940 --> 00:18:13.490 in the military, in one way or the other, whether 314 00:18:13.529 --> 00:18:16.150 you were a desk jockey or out in the middle 315 00:18:16.190 --> 00:18:19.170 of a battlefield, there's something to be learned from it. 316 00:18:19.269 --> 00:18:21.950 And so many of our great Americans were veterans and 317 00:18:22.170 --> 00:18:25.869 use that experience in their careers. You know, I can 318 00:18:25.890 --> 00:18:28.029 think of so many people, especially in the entertainment industry, 319 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:33.549 People like Rod Serling, who really got his inspiration for 320 00:18:33.609 --> 00:18:36.910 so many of the Twilight Zone stories from his time 321 00:18:37.130 --> 00:18:45.599 in the service. Again, it was such a molder of creativity, 322 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:49.720 a forger of creativity. And you wish that it didn't 323 00:18:49.740 --> 00:18:51.720 have to come along with the millions of lives who 324 00:18:51.740 --> 00:18:55.269 died in that conflict. But yeah. at least we get 325 00:18:55.869 --> 00:18:58.829 some things out of it that we may not otherwise know. 326 00:18:58.950 --> 00:19:01.890 And that includes some of the technological discoveries as well. 327 00:19:02.089 --> 00:19:05.269 I mean, for all the horror that nuclear weapons are, 328 00:19:05.430 --> 00:19:07.630 and thank God we've only had two instances of them 329 00:19:07.730 --> 00:19:11.950 ever being used, nuclear power and some of the other 330 00:19:11.970 --> 00:19:16.529 technological breakthroughs from the discoveries that were the result of 331 00:19:17.049 --> 00:19:20.049 a race to a weapon that have led to good things. 332 00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:24.279 You know, it's just, again, you have to, You have 333 00:19:24.299 --> 00:19:26.460 to try your best to balance the good with the bad, 334 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:30.420 and it's important. David in the Bronx wants to disagree 335 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:32.240 with me about something. I'm used to that. I had 336 00:19:32.279 --> 00:19:34.180 teenage daughters once. Go ahead, David. 337 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:37.180 Oh, hey. Thank you, Jake. 338 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:42.410 You had mentioned about the film industry being controlled by 339 00:19:42.470 --> 00:19:47.289 the Chinese. I don't disagree that the film industry is 340 00:19:47.509 --> 00:19:50.740 marketing in a very Chinese-friendly way, but I don't think 341 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:51.599 it's political. 342 00:19:51.819 --> 00:19:52.059 Okay. 343 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:55.140 I think what you're doing is that you're assuming that 344 00:19:55.220 --> 00:19:58.000 you've got people in Hollywood who are making these decisions 345 00:19:58.099 --> 00:19:59.119 based on political. 346 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:01.079 No, no, no, no. That's by the way, you're right. 347 00:20:01.559 --> 00:20:02.920 I meant to say, I think they're doing it for 348 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:04.700 financial reasons. I don't think they're doing it for political. 349 00:20:04.740 --> 00:20:05.180 Exactly. 350 00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:06.160 Yeah. No, no, no, no. 351 00:20:06.259 --> 00:20:08.519 I meant, I meant financial change. You're right. All right. 352 00:20:08.539 --> 00:20:11.140 Because something that's changed a lot over the years is 353 00:20:11.180 --> 00:20:13.670 that– because I used to watch classic movies. I lost 354 00:20:13.710 --> 00:20:16.869 my vision 14 years ago. But before that, I used 355 00:20:16.910 --> 00:20:18.970 to watch a lot of black and white movies. And 356 00:20:19.009 --> 00:20:22.529 you notice that movies were made specifically for the American audience, 357 00:20:22.609 --> 00:20:25.529 and that's where they were making their money. Now the 358 00:20:25.789 --> 00:20:28.670 audience is all over the world, so movies can't be 359 00:20:28.769 --> 00:20:30.910 made the way that people like you and I might 360 00:20:30.950 --> 00:20:33.390 have been used to. And I think it looks– like 361 00:20:33.430 --> 00:20:37.079 it's anti-American or whatever, but it's actually just
pro-money. I 362 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:40.039 don't think someone in Hollywood is saying, we want to 363 00:20:40.059 --> 00:20:40.460 make this. 364 00:20:40.420 --> 00:20:46.319 Movie to be anti-American. 100%. By that, and the film, 365 00:20:46.339 --> 00:20:48.440 for example, they did that movie First Man, which of 366 00:20:48.500 --> 00:20:51.819 all the really good movies about the early space program, 367 00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:54.180 it was the worst. It's not a good movie. But 368 00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:56.599 there was a huge controversy, remember, because as they land 369 00:20:56.799 --> 00:20:59.910 on the surface of the moon, they took out the scene... 370 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:02.200 Where they planted the American flag because they didn't want 371 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:04.579 it to be, you know, to offend the Chinese audience 372 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:07.440 and wanted to make just incredible stupidity like that. You know, 373 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:10.299 to me, the greatest film by far, and it's not 374 00:21:10.339 --> 00:21:14.309 even close, about the space program is The Right Stuff. 375 00:21:14.349 --> 00:21:16.609 It's one of the most incredible films of all time. 376 00:21:16.930 --> 00:21:19.789 And I say that even though. And I don't say 377 00:21:19.809 --> 00:21:21.829 that just because the director was a classmate of my 378 00:21:21.869 --> 00:21:24.089 dad's at the University of Chicago, Philip Kaufman. It's an 379 00:21:24.130 --> 00:21:26.809 incredible movie. It must be seen by so many people. 380 00:21:27.170 --> 00:21:29.609 No way that movie gets made today. Not even close. 381 00:21:29.809 --> 00:21:32.930 And it wasn't a rah-rah, everything is perfect kind of movie. 382 00:21:32.950 --> 00:21:35.529 There were a lot of problems with the space program, 383 00:21:35.549 --> 00:21:38.309 a lot of corruption and other issues going on there. 384 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:40.559 So it wasn't, it's not that it's just would never 385 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:45.460 be made today. Too American, too long, uh, too many, 386 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:48.519 too many difficult concepts to, to put in a film, 387 00:21:49.259 --> 00:21:51.799 but it, I can't recommend it enough. And I remember 388 00:21:51.859 --> 00:21:55.119 one of the real happy moments of, uh, of me, 389 00:21:55.220 --> 00:21:57.940 of my life as a dad was when I showed 390 00:21:58.180 --> 00:22:00.769 the right stuff. We watched my, my, at my then 391 00:22:00.769 --> 00:22:02.369 13 year old older daughter and I watched it and 392 00:22:02.390 --> 00:22:05.109 she just absolutely loved it. And she wasn't that kind 393 00:22:05.150 --> 00:22:06.529 of a kid who liked those kinds of movies, but 394 00:22:07.309 --> 00:22:09.789 I thought to myself, that's a good sign. But yeah, 395 00:22:09.809 --> 00:22:10.920 you make a lot of good friends. 396 00:22:10.940 --> 00:22:12.660 Can I just mention one more thing before I go? 397 00:22:12.759 --> 00:22:13.329 Go ahead. 398 00:22:13.940 --> 00:22:15.619 I think this is a good example of this. And 399 00:22:15.740 --> 00:22:17.579 this was actually the last movie I saw before I 400 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:20.220 lost my vision. Do you remember a movie. 401 00:22:20.019 --> 00:22:21.259 Called World War Z? 402 00:22:21.619 --> 00:22:21.900 Yes. 403 00:22:22.140 --> 00:22:23.059 It was a zombie movie. 404 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:24.000 All right. 405 00:22:24.279 --> 00:22:27.680 The book that that movie was based on, the virus 406 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:30.579 that caused the whole thing, was started in China. They 407 00:22:30.619 --> 00:22:34.180 removed all of that from the film, hoping they were 408 00:22:34.220 --> 00:22:36.319 going to get it approved. And in China, they don't 409 00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:39.339 allow movies about zombies or ghosts or anything else. So 410 00:22:39.359 --> 00:22:42.730 they catered to the Chinese. And they still didn't get 411 00:22:42.769 --> 00:22:45.529 the movie market there. So this catering to China doesn't 412 00:22:45.569 --> 00:22:47.289 even really pay off a lot of times. 413 00:22:47.549 --> 00:22:49.349 But it's a big reason why we keep having all 414 00:22:49.390 --> 00:22:51.109 these superhero movies. And I used to be a big 415 00:22:51.170 --> 00:22:53.859 fan of those movies a long time ago. But now 416 00:22:53.900 --> 00:22:56.009 it's just ridiculous. And China is a huge reason why, 417 00:22:56.019 --> 00:22:58.900 because they're very easy to dub. They're very easy to 418 00:22:58.940 --> 00:23:02.119 make without subtitles. And that's a huge reason why they're 419 00:23:02.140 --> 00:23:06.829 making these movies over and over and over again. You know, 420 00:23:06.990 --> 00:23:09.690 it's it's it's yet. No, it's about money. I do 421 00:23:09.730 --> 00:23:12.630 believe that there are some anti-American sentiments in Hollywood, but 422 00:23:12.710 --> 00:23:14.910 not not in the movies that they're marketing to China. 423 00:23:14.950 --> 00:23:17.019 It's not because of that. You're you're you're exactly right. 424 00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:19.140 And I'm sorry I didn't make that clear because I 425 00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:21.779 agree with that. Mike in South Carolina, you want to 426 00:23:21.819 --> 00:23:23.180 talk about Veterans Day, please do. 427 00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:28.950 Hey, Jake, man, I'll tell you what. I tuned into 428 00:23:28.990 --> 00:23:32.539 your show an hour ago. Fantastic. I'm listening 30 some 429 00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:34.640 odd years to WABC radio. 430 00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:35.599 Okay. 431 00:23:35.980 --> 00:23:38.000 I'm 72 years old. I have a son and daughter. 432 00:23:38.220 --> 00:23:42.650 Doing well up north. My father's best friend growing up, 433 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:46.170 Uncle Paul, he died two years ago. He was 98. 434 00:23:46.170 --> 00:23:51.069 And 82nd Airborne Battle of the Balls he was in. 435 00:23:51.250 --> 00:23:51.490 Yeah.
436 00:23:52.210 --> 00:23:54.529 And Pierce, you know. 437 00:23:54.930 --> 00:23:58.940 It was a tough one. And totally unnecessary, too. You know, 438 00:23:58.980 --> 00:24:00.660 I mean, I don't want to take your time. I mean, 439 00:24:00.859 --> 00:24:01.430 you'll get time to. 440 00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:02.759 No, go ahead. 441 00:24:02.819 --> 00:24:04.680 The Battle of the Bulge was something that we had 442 00:24:04.819 --> 00:24:08.500 already taken and cracked the Enigma machine well before the 443 00:24:08.539 --> 00:24:13.420 Battle of the Bulge. The Pentagon had many communiques that 444 00:24:13.839 --> 00:24:17.119 we had decoded because the Enigma machine and at Bletchley Park, 445 00:24:17.140 --> 00:24:19.440 the British were helping us with this. And we knew 446 00:24:19.509 --> 00:24:22.529 that this was coming. And the Pentagon kept saying, I 447 00:24:22.589 --> 00:24:26.009 don't care what these messages say. Our assessment from here 448 00:24:26.049 --> 00:24:29.210 in Washington is that the Germans don't have enough manpower 449 00:24:29.509 --> 00:24:32.470 to launch this counterattack at Bastogne. But I mean, it 450 00:24:32.490 --> 00:24:35.700 was totally avoidable. And it just goes to show that 451 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:38.319 you can have all the intel in the world, all 452 00:24:38.339 --> 00:24:41.259 the technology in the world. If you have buffoons and 453 00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:45.660 arrogant people running an operation, whether it's a business or 454 00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:49.839 a war, Lots of luck, because you've got to have 455 00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:52.819 a certain amount of humility to fight a war, and 456 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:56.299 the Battle of the Bulge is an inexcusable error on 457 00:24:56.339 --> 00:24:59.660 behalf of the United States and the Allies. We should 458 00:24:59.779 --> 00:25:02.440 never have been caught in that situation. Go ahead. Sorry, 459 00:25:02.460 --> 00:25:04.380 I had to pontificate for a second about that. Go ahead. 460 00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:07.369 No, that's okay, man. I can listen. That's okay. You know, 461 00:25:07.390 --> 00:25:11.470 my mother passed away four years ago. She was 90. Okay, 462 00:25:11.490 --> 00:25:14.230 about 20 years ago, she gave Uncle Paul the only 463 00:25:14.309 --> 00:25:17.420 book on the 82nd Airborne. And my uncle Paul had 464 00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:23.240 to leave the table. He was crying. But I worked 465 00:25:23.259 --> 00:25:27.059 with a lot of guys when I worked Metro North 466 00:25:27.619 --> 00:25:31.049 Vietnam vets. I just miss Vietnam. I'm 72. And they 467 00:25:31.089 --> 00:25:35.910 never spoke about it. Every time I see somebody wear 468 00:25:35.930 --> 00:25:39.170 a shirt down here or a hat, a veteran, I'll 469 00:25:39.230 --> 00:25:40.750 always acknowledge him. Always. Always. 470 00:25:41.750 --> 00:25:42.430 You know, yeah. 471 00:25:42.549 --> 00:25:44.990 You know, we just need to acknowledge them. You
know, 472 00:25:45.009 --> 00:25:46.970 we need to understand that this is I mean, there 473 00:25:46.990 --> 00:25:49.579 are just too many generations now of Americans since the 474 00:25:49.660 --> 00:25:52.259 end of the draft who don't know anyone who ever 475 00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:54.980 served anywhere, war or not war. And that's not good. 476 00:25:55.500 --> 00:25:58.099 I'm sorry. We have to be they need to be 477 00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:01.279 front facing in our society. And they're not. And that, 478 00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:03.160 you know, there's a lot of people to blame for that. 479 00:26:03.779 --> 00:26:05.440 But all I can say is that if you do 480 00:26:05.480 --> 00:26:09.349 know a veteran, talk to them. find out their stories, 481 00:26:09.630 --> 00:26:12.390 and just acknowledge them. Acknowledge them. That's what this day 482 00:26:12.430 --> 00:26:15.099 is about. It's not about mourning. This is not Memorial Day. 483 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:17.920 This is about acknowledgement, and I think there's a big difference. 484 00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:19.420 So I thank you. 485 00:26:19.460 --> 00:26:20.480 Well said. 486 00:26:20.500 --> 00:26:20.960 Thank you, Mike. 487 00:26:20.980 --> 00:26:21.220 Sorry. 488 00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:26.410 Well, that's okay. Well said. And, you know, I sing 489 00:26:26.430 --> 00:26:28.569 with a guy, some of my senior buddies in the 490 00:26:28.589 --> 00:26:31.930 morning at Mickey D's for senior coffee. And Bill is 491 00:26:32.069 --> 00:26:33.890 two years older than me. He looks like Santa Claus. 492 00:26:34.690 --> 00:26:40.359 And he never, never, never speaks about his time in Vietnam. Never. And, 493 00:26:41.099 --> 00:26:44.480 you know, so anytime, like I said, today, I'm going 494 00:26:44.500 --> 00:26:47.299 to go to a ceremony. I believe it's 12 o'clock. 495 00:26:47.900 --> 00:26:49.740 in North Myrtle Beach. I'm going to go to that 496 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:53.599 ceremony just to acknowledge, you know, just to acknowledge. Yeah. 497 00:26:53.700 --> 00:26:53.900 Yeah. 498 00:26:53.980 --> 00:26:56.599 Good for you. That's really necessary. All right. Gary in 499 00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:58.140 New Jersey, you want to talk Veterans Day? 500 00:26:58.160 --> 00:26:58.779 Go ahead, Gary. 501 00:26:59.869 --> 00:27:00.220 Yes. 502 00:27:00.420 --> 00:27:03.809 Good morning, Jake. I just wanted to quickly call and 503 00:27:03.890 --> 00:27:11.809 acknowledge my father, William Freeman from Jersey, originally Scranton, married 504 00:27:11.849 --> 00:27:16.630 my mom this week in November of 49. And a 505 00:27:16.670 --> 00:27:20.130 few months later, went to Korea to the front lines. 506 00:27:21.410 --> 00:27:24.309 And I want to acknowledge my mom, Marilyn, because she 507 00:27:24.369 --> 00:27:27.109 lived on pins and needles the whole time he was there. 508 00:27:27.930 --> 00:27:30.349 And they gave me my life. I mean, my dad 509 00:27:30.410 --> 00:27:36.319 came back
from the war and they adopted me in 59. 510 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:39.519 And so I've been blessed to have them as parents 511 00:27:39.980 --> 00:27:45.359 and my father served proudly. Like the recent gentleman has said, 512 00:27:45.910 --> 00:27:49.329 They never talk about it. I mean, you know, what 513 00:27:49.390 --> 00:27:52.839 they did and what they did, especially World War II, 514 00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.799 you were speaking recently with amazing callers that have been 515 00:27:56.819 --> 00:28:00.869 calling in tonight. They didn't talk about it because they 516 00:28:00.900 --> 00:28:02.940 didn't have to. They lived through it. 517 00:28:03.089 --> 00:28:03.250 Yes. 518 00:28:03.690 --> 00:28:06.619 And I just wanted to acknowledge my dad on Veterans 519 00:28:06.670 --> 00:28:10.240 Day and all the people who have, you know, been 520 00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:14.799 veterans in our country. And especially in World War I 521 00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:19.160 and II, we saved the world. And we need to 522 00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:21.970 do that more and more in today's time. 523 00:28:22.269 --> 00:28:27.210 Yeah. And, you know, the good news is, as again, 524 00:28:27.450 --> 00:28:30.329 and the expert on this was Stephen Ambrose, the late 525 00:28:30.410 --> 00:28:34.579 great writer, the good news is As bad as things 526 00:28:34.700 --> 00:28:38.640 are now, as poorly educated as our children are about 527 00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:42.640 the history of this country and patriotism and respect for 528 00:28:42.660 --> 00:28:46.849 the armed forces, we've had periods like that in our history. Again, 529 00:28:46.890 --> 00:28:49.130 that period between World War I and World War II, 530 00:28:49.589 --> 00:28:53.130 the military was very, very much denigrated in our society 531 00:28:53.930 --> 00:28:56.849 to an extent that people really can't even fathom today. 532 00:28:57.549 --> 00:28:59.970 And yet those young men who grew up in that 533 00:29:00.250 --> 00:29:04.059 culture saved the world. And And it's important to understand 534 00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:06.809 it was them. Well, you know, the generals were older. 535 00:29:06.829 --> 00:29:13.009 It was the captains, lieutenants, and sergeants in World War 536 00:29:13.130 --> 00:29:15.789 II who made the difference. They usually make the difference. 537 00:29:15.809 --> 00:29:19.190 The junior officers and the older, and the more senior 538 00:29:19.250 --> 00:29:21.950 non-commissioned officers. In most wars, that's the case. But in 539 00:29:21.990 --> 00:29:27.289 World War II, it was really the case. Captains, lieutenants, sergeants, 540 00:29:27.670 --> 00:29:31.150 they were young. They were young and they saved the world. 541 00:29:31.210 --> 00:29:34.329 And Just to throw in another very personal thing I'll 542 00:29:34.369 --> 00:29:36.759 say about this. You know, I'm a sixth generation American. 543 00:29:38.420 --> 00:29:42.819 But I'm also very much a traditional Jewish American. I 544 00:29:42.859 --> 00:29:47.779 was very religiously educated and also educated in American history. 545 00:29:48.619 --> 00:29:50.660 And I often say this when I'm speaking in front 546 00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:53.670 of a large audience, especially a non-Jewish audience, is that 547 00:29:54.430 --> 00:29:56.750 no matter what the history of this country is or not, 548 00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:01.680 I wake up every morning in a country where Christian 549 00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:05.220 boys saved the Jewish people. It's not why they went 550 00:30:05.259 --> 00:30:07.839 to war, but the truth is that's the case. And, 551 00:30:07.859 --> 00:30:10.900 you know, you go to Normandy, and obviously there are 552 00:30:10.940 --> 00:30:12.920 some Jewish stars there in the cemetery there. 553 00:30:13.299 --> 00:30:13.619 A few. 554 00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:16.180 Because, by the way, most of the Jewish soldiers were 555 00:30:16.220 --> 00:30:19.180 sent to the Pacific Theater because the U.S. government had 556 00:30:19.220 --> 00:30:21.240 an inkling of what was going on in Germany, and 557 00:30:21.259 --> 00:30:24.160 they figured, you know, so most Jewish war veterans from 558 00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:26.599 World War II actually served in the Pacific Theater. But yes, 559 00:30:26.630 --> 00:30:28.740 there were a couple of Jewish, there were some Jewish 560 00:30:28.779 --> 00:30:31.880 soldiers who died at Normandy Beach. But honestly, you know, 561 00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:35.660 it was a sea of Christian boys. And if they 562 00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:38.880 don't win on D-Day, there's no Jewish people anymore. Okay, 563 00:30:38.900 --> 00:30:41.740 it's as simple as that. And that needs to be 564 00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:46.099 acknowledged more often from that standpoint. Again, I'm not saying 565 00:30:46.140 --> 00:30:49.900 that's why they went. And who knows, but that was 566 00:30:49.940 --> 00:30:53.220 the result. And that's the important thing. And I say 567 00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:56.630 this a lot of times to Individual, very religious groups 568 00:30:56.730 --> 00:30:59.680 also who think that they're just like an enclave community 569 00:30:59.779 --> 00:31:02.680 in some country that doesn't have anything to do with them. 570 00:31:02.779 --> 00:31:05.839 But it just couldn't be further from the truth. But anyway, 571 00:31:05.859 --> 00:31:07.259 I thank you. Yeah, go ahead. 572 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:11.180 And Jake, you know, my family is very close with 573 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.670 a lot of Holocaust surviving families who were in the 574 00:31:15.730 --> 00:31:22.849 camps and, you Somehow, and they're very famous people now, 575 00:31:23.609 --> 00:31:27.750 they ended up becoming some of the biggest developers in America. 576 00:31:27.809 --> 00:31:31.430 They came here and they were in the camp together 577 00:31:31.490 --> 00:31:35.799 and how these two seven-year-old boys lost their families there 578
00:31:35.859 --> 00:31:38.660 and survived it and came to New York and then 579 00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:44.519 New Jersey and lived here and then reconnected and became 580 00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:49.160 businessmen starting with nothing. and have gone on to become 581 00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:56.170 some of the biggest developers in the world. And it's amazing. 582 00:31:56.569 --> 00:32:01.569 And these were all people who fought for freedom, fought 583 00:32:01.609 --> 00:32:06.940 against this hate. And I won't keep you from any 584 00:32:07.019 --> 00:32:09.700 other calls at this point, but I just wanted to 585 00:32:09.740 --> 00:32:12.500 call to honor my dad and my mom and and 586 00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:15.750 all the people who were veterans for our country. And 587 00:32:15.789 --> 00:32:18.250 I thank you for letting me have the time. 588 00:32:18.809 --> 00:32:21.829 It was our pleasure. Tommy, in Staten Island, you want 589 00:32:21.849 --> 00:32:22.750 to talk Veterans Day. 590 00:32:23.769 --> 00:32:24.930 How are you, Jake? I want to tell you a 591 00:32:25.019 --> 00:32:27.380 story about my uncle, but I want to tell you 592 00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:31.940 something else. First off, during the war, now I had 593 00:32:32.339 --> 00:32:34.940 four uncles in the service, one in the Navy, three 594 00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:40.420 in Europe. And the three in Europe were involved, you know, 595 00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:43.440 with fighting the Germans, of course. But during the battle, 596 00:32:43.569 --> 00:32:46.930 after the Battle of the Bulge, when they executed our soldiers, 597 00:32:47.289 --> 00:32:54.069 the SSS executed unarmed soldiers, after that, a lot of 598 00:32:54.089 --> 00:32:59.369 SS soldiers were, let's say, just, they disappeared. And that's 599 00:32:59.470 --> 00:33:02.710 a true story. You could ask any real veterans that 600 00:33:02.730 --> 00:33:05.660 were there. After that incident, there was a lot of 601 00:33:05.740 --> 00:33:08.700 things that American soldiers did, which they should have, I think. 602 00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:12.119 But anyway, I'll tell you the story about this one uncle. 603 00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.680 He was an MP. He was in the Hurricane Forest. 604 00:33:16.220 --> 00:33:19.839 And he told me, he says, we would always look 605 00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:24.920 for booze, anything to drink. So anyway, they got a 606 00:33:24.980 --> 00:33:28.480 bunch of German liquor, and they had a party. And 607 00:33:28.500 --> 00:33:32.380 he got really sick and all, and he had to 608 00:33:32.420 --> 00:33:35.059 relieve himself. And they were in the foxhole, and he 609 00:33:35.099 --> 00:33:37.980 told his buddy, he goes, listen, I have to go. 610 00:33:38.009 --> 00:33:39.930 He says, I'll be right over there. I have to, 611 00:33:40.029 --> 00:33:42.589 you know, go to the bathroom. So he went. He's 612 00:33:42.630 --> 00:33:47.269 doing his business, you know. He's just squatting there. And 613
00:33:47.289 --> 00:33:50.089 he says all of a sudden he looks up, and 614 00:33:50.109 --> 00:33:54.650 there's a German lieutenant, like, just standing there. And old 615 00:33:54.690 --> 00:33:57.390 Denny's looking around. He said there was like 40 other 616 00:33:57.430 --> 00:34:00.710 Germans around just standing with rifles all around them. And 617 00:34:00.730 --> 00:34:02.390 he's like, oh, man, I'm going to die. I'm going 618 00:34:02.410 --> 00:34:06.650 to get shot with my pants down. But they wanted 619 00:34:06.690 --> 00:34:11.900 to surrender. And they were trying. And the German officers 620 00:34:11.980 --> 00:34:15.429 go in to get a saluger out. And my uncle goes, oh, 621 00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.619 I'm going to be dead. My mom's going to find 622 00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:19.840 out how I died. He goes, oh, I can't believe 623 00:34:19.860 --> 00:34:22.420 this is going to happen. And he hands him his pistol. 624 00:34:23.550 --> 00:34:25.829 And now he tells them, oh, you have to wait now. 625 00:34:25.849 --> 00:34:29.449 I have to finish what I'm doing because, you know. 626 00:34:29.929 --> 00:34:34.699 But he actually brought them all in. It actually was 627 00:34:34.739 --> 00:34:39.079 a whole company. It was over 200 men that surrendered 628 00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:44.900 to him. He wound up getting a medal. He wound up, 629 00:34:45.099 --> 00:34:50.139 it was the whole company. And the dog, there was 630 00:34:50.260 --> 00:34:54.039 one German shepherd named Fritz. It's a true story. The 631 00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:57.860 story is in the Staten Island Advance in the archives. 632 00:34:57.900 --> 00:35:02.920 You can read it. But anyway, he took the officers. 633 00:35:03.059 --> 00:35:05.219 He says, you know, he told the lieutenant, he says, 634 00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:07.630 you know, I want your uniform. He's like, why do 635 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:09.719 you want to go take it off? I want your uniform. 636 00:35:10.449 --> 00:35:13.769 He sent his whole uniform home with all his medals, everything, 637 00:35:13.829 --> 00:35:18.110 with the hat, everything. And my cousin has it till 638 00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:22.340 to this day. But he had that in his living 639 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:25.340 room till he passed away. And he would tell us 640 00:35:25.420 --> 00:35:27.380 all the stories. And it was just, we'd have a 641 00:35:27.420 --> 00:35:31.000 lot of laughs. But he has the complete uniform of the, 642 00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:34.760 he was a Wehrmacht soldier. And it was just interesting. 643 00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:38.400 But he actually went in when he was 16 years old. 644 00:35:38.900 --> 00:35:41.619 And he was telling me, now this is the mentality 645 00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:45.400 of the people that served in World War II. He 646 00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.650 was telling me that you had to serve. You had to. 647 00:35:49.289 --> 00:35:52.710 Some of three of his friends actually killed themselves that 648 00:35:52.809 --> 00:35:55.250 couldn't serve because they had medical issues. 649 00:35:55.269 --> 00:35:57.489 Yeah, the shame was heavy. 650 00:35:58.250 --> 00:36:01.030 Oh, it was terrible. It was a mindset. And what 651 00:36:01.050 --> 00:36:03.489 you were talking about before, I'm sorry I'm going all over, 652 00:36:03.530 --> 00:36:05.030 but you have such a great show. 653 00:36:05.050 --> 00:36:05.659 Thank you. 654 00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:09.980 It's about the Christian boys fighting the Jewish people. It's 655 00:36:10.219 --> 00:36:13.699 absolutely true. They knew what was going on. My uncle, too, 656 00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:17.579 he said after the death camps, things were different, let's say. 657 00:36:17.659 --> 00:36:19.820 I can't, you know, you know what I'm saying. 658 00:36:20.059 --> 00:36:20.219 Yeah. 659 00:36:20.260 --> 00:36:23.659 You know, I wanted to say something. So that scenario 660 00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:27.949 you talked about with that soldier who encountered all these 661 00:36:27.989 --> 00:36:30.269 German soldiers who wanted to surrender, you know, we've been 662 00:36:30.289 --> 00:36:34.050 talking about war movies. There was a very late contender 663 00:36:34.250 --> 00:36:37.489 into this whole thing that I enjoyed. I remember it 664 00:36:37.510 --> 00:36:39.349 came out my senior year of college. It was called 665 00:36:39.369 --> 00:36:43.789 The Midnight Clear. Listen to this cast. Ethan Hawke. Gary Sinise, 666 00:36:43.869 --> 00:36:47.699 Kevin Dillon, Aryeh Gross, John C. McGill. Great movie about 667 00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:50.320 just what you were talking about. That period towards the 668 00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:53.059 end of the war in the Hürtgen Forest, in the 669 00:36:53.139 --> 00:36:57.079 cold weather there, where a number of the German soldiers 670 00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:02.260 tried to individually surrender ahead of what Central Command wanted 671 00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:04.510 them to do. And it's a good movie. It's a 672 00:37:04.530 --> 00:37:08.449 good movie and an interesting cast. So you might like that, 673 00:37:08.530 --> 00:37:09.670 A Midnight Clear movie. 674 00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:12.860 And then i clear that yet get good will you 675 00:37:12.900 --> 00:37:15.440 look at the alternative now what why would you want 676 00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:17.599 to surrender to russians after what they did. 677 00:37:17.530 --> 00:37:20.789 That's right that's a big week crazy yet they they. 678 00:37:20.690 --> 00:37:23.070 They had to listen the russians lost twenty million people 679 00:37:23.110 --> 00:37:25.349 in war two and they knew exactly what was going 680 00:37:25.510 --> 00:37:28.610 on and i really like what they were not naive 681 00:37:29.230 --> 00:37:32.130 and they they took care of business especially in auschwitz 682 00:37:32.710 --> 00:37:33.090 and what. 683 00:37:32.989 --> 00:37:35.150 You said about the jewish people want to get back 684 00:37:35.210 -->
00:37:38.590 to it uh... I hate to say it, but this 685 00:37:38.849 --> 00:37:41.289 is starting all up again today, and we have to 686 00:37:41.349 --> 00:37:45.610 stand for the Jewish country, for Israel, for all Jewish people. 687 00:37:46.090 --> 00:37:50.190 I mean, what they did when they were just breaking 688 00:37:50.289 --> 00:37:54.750 all the windows of the Jewish people. I forgot what 689 00:37:54.809 --> 00:37:56.300 state that was. It was the other day. 690 00:37:56.320 --> 00:37:57.510 Philadelphia, yeah. 691 00:37:58.219 --> 00:38:02.369 This is horrifying. Now this is our turn to stand up. 692 00:38:03.409 --> 00:38:07.550 I'm a Christian man, and I am a million percent Zionist. 693 00:38:08.269 --> 00:38:11.900 I vote for what's good for Israel my whole life. 694 00:38:11.980 --> 00:38:14.880 Well, I appreciate that. And just for everyone else who 695 00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:18.199 might be a little bit queasy about that, it's not 696 00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:20.860 necessarily to stand up for the Jewish people. Stand up 697 00:38:20.900 --> 00:38:23.610 for law and order. Here's a newsflash. You can't break 698 00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:26.409 a business's windows. You can't graffiti a window. You can't 699 00:38:26.469 --> 00:38:28.530 punch someone in the face because you don't like their 700 00:38:28.570 --> 00:38:31.670 politics or you don't like Israel. If you have a 701 00:38:31.809 --> 00:38:35.949 city or a state where violence and vandalism is punished, 702 00:38:35.969 --> 00:38:39.110 no matter who the victim is or who the perpetrator is, 703 00:38:39.550 --> 00:38:43.110 you won't have anti-Semitism. It's as simple as that. We 704 00:38:43.139 --> 00:38:47.559 don't need hate crime laws. We don't need sensitivity training. 705 00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:51.920 We just need a police force and politicians who say, 706 00:38:51.940 --> 00:38:54.840 I don't care what your personal grievance is. You can't 707 00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:58.409 drive a car loaded with explosives into a preschool. How 708 00:38:58.429 --> 00:39:00.539 about that? Doesn't matter. And we're not ever going to, 709 00:39:01.010 --> 00:39:03.960 and everyone's going to get the same really heavy punishment. 710 00:39:04.219 --> 00:39:08.280 That's how you defeat anti-Semitism. Thank you. Thank you, Tommy. Jim, 711 00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:12.699 in New York, where are you in New York? Let's see. 712 00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:15.699 I'm in upstate New York. 713 00:39:15.739 --> 00:39:17.400 Go ahead, Jim. You don't want to talk about Veterans Day. 714 00:39:17.420 --> 00:39:17.860 Go ahead. 715 00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:19.119 I'm originally from Jersey. 716 00:39:19.139 --> 00:39:24.090 Yeah, Veterans Day. My grandfather was a double Purple Heart recipient, 717 00:39:24.130 --> 00:39:29.599 World War II He was wounded at Iwo Jima. My 718 00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:35.340 great-grandfather was in World War I. I'm 62, the last 719 00:39:35.420 --> 00:39:37.920 of the baby boomers. My parents are 45. They're the 720 00:39:38.260 --> 00:39:41.550 first baby boomers, war babies. It's just a country. They 721 00:39:41.570 --> 00:39:45.170 have this visceral hate for baby boomers. We ruined it 722 00:39:45.210 --> 00:39:48.599 for them. It's like, This is the country that I 723 00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:50.780 grew up in versus what it is now. You know, 724 00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:53.400 growing up watching, you know, Bob Hope and the Andrews 725 00:39:53.460 --> 00:39:58.039 sisters and Abbott and Costello, everyone rallied around the country 726 00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:01.860 in a time of war. You know, Vietnam War was controversial. 727 00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:05.139 My Uncle Danny was, my aunt met him, he was 728 00:40:05.179 --> 00:40:08.659 a full-blown hippie and, you know, long hair, VW bus, 729 00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:13.570 but he was a decorated combat sniper in Vietnam. Didn't 730 00:40:13.590 --> 00:40:14.280 know it, you know. 731 00:40:14.730 --> 00:40:17.929 You know, what you said is interesting, and this is 732 00:40:17.949 --> 00:40:19.849 going to sound like a tangent, but it really isn't. 733 00:40:20.630 --> 00:40:26.889 You know, there is this disdain for everything that's old 734 00:40:28.030 --> 00:40:31.239 these days in our culture to the point where it's 735 00:40:31.300 --> 00:40:33.199 gotten to become the theater of the absurds. Some of 736 00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:36.880 my favorite commercials, because they are very funny, are those 737 00:40:36.940 --> 00:40:40.119 progressive ads, don't become like your parents with Dr. Rick 738 00:40:40.780 --> 00:40:43.599 and these people doing stuff because they'll become a homeowner, 739 00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:46.750 they'll turn into their parents. Have you noticed that every 740 00:40:46.829 --> 00:40:49.650 one of the so-called bad habits that these people have 741 00:40:50.309 --> 00:40:54.690 are wonderful habits? Talking to strangers, being encouraging, trying to 742 00:40:54.750 --> 00:40:59.059 help out, being friendly. That's something to be ashamed of? 743 00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:02.139 I mean, they're funny commercials, but. 744 00:41:02.260 --> 00:41:03.360 It's part of the problem. 745 00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:07.679 Today, kids, you talk to somebody in a store, they 746 00:41:07.940 --> 00:41:11.010 act like you've got three heads. Just to be friendly. 747 00:41:11.050 --> 00:41:15.170 They want to be on their phone, texting, everything's the internet. 748 00:41:15.550 --> 00:41:19.610 And today, with the political climate, a lot of these kids, again, 749 00:41:19.630 --> 00:41:22.389 a lot of them don't have the work ethic that 750 00:41:22.429 --> 00:41:25.570 I grew up with. Everything's the internet. And a lot 751 00:41:25.909 --> 00:41:29.500 of them realize AI is going to take take these 752 00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:31.480 jobs they're going to college for, a lot of them. 753 00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:34.230 Well, I think that people with
the real personal touch 754 00:41:34.469 --> 00:41:37.510 will be able to defeat AI as a job killer. 755 00:41:37.590 --> 00:41:41.809 I mean, AI has a lot of positive connotations. 756 00:41:41.969 --> 00:41:44.300 If you're intelligent, you'll find a way to survive. 757 00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:47.239 Yeah, but I mean, honestly, the latest one of these 758 00:41:47.260 --> 00:41:52.039 progressive ads has the guy in the back talking... kindly 759 00:41:52.179 --> 00:41:54.880 and encouragingly to the uber driver like that's a bad 760 00:41:54.940 --> 00:41:57.630 habit he's like listen you're doing a great job like 761 00:41:58.090 --> 00:42:00.590 i mean listen again i i get it it's listen 762 00:42:00.710 --> 00:42:02.429 i laugh i love those commercials and when they have 763 00:42:02.489 --> 00:42:04.250 new ones out i'm like i get excited because i 764 00:42:04.289 --> 00:42:07.230 really like them but have you noticed that every one 765 00:42:07.250 --> 00:42:09.300 of the so-called bad habits you're not supposed to get 766 00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:13.739 is an endearing kindness i i should be that should 767 00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:15.079 be the worst thing that everyone has said about me 768 00:42:15.099 --> 00:42:17.230 like oh yeah You know, dad talked to people in 769 00:42:17.250 --> 00:42:19.170 the waiting room and tried to calm them down or 770 00:42:19.449 --> 00:42:21.969 tried to help them find their Starbucks cup when no one, 771 00:42:22.250 --> 00:42:23.489 you know, what's wrong with that? 772 00:42:24.650 --> 00:42:25.070 Jeez. 773 00:42:25.369 --> 00:42:29.610 Anyway, thank you so much for your call. Let's take 774 00:42:29.650 --> 00:42:32.530 a break. We're almost done with our other side of midnight. 775 00:42:32.550 --> 00:42:33.909 We'll get a chance to talk to one or two 776 00:42:33.929 --> 00:42:35.929 of you when we get back. I'm Jake Novak in 777 00:42:35.949 --> 00:42:37.170 for Walter Sterling. We'll be right back. 778 00:42:39.090 --> 00:42:56.619 The other side of midnight with Walter Sterling. The Other 779 00:42:56.760 --> 00:42:59.260 Side of Midnight with Walter Sterling. 780 00:43:03.159 --> 00:43:06.920 Russ in White Plains. You want to talk about Philadelphia? 781 00:43:06.940 --> 00:43:11.760 Yeah, Jake. The caller just referred to the breaking of 782 00:43:11.820 --> 00:43:15.880 glass in Philadelphia the other day. The anniversary of Crystal Knocker. 783 00:43:15.900 --> 00:43:20.030 There was a dozen bikers in masks. And they picked 784 00:43:20.130 --> 00:43:24.369 Kristallnacht anniversary to do this. Jake, tell me, doesn't this 785 00:43:24.429 --> 00:43:27.409 look a lot like Hasbro that some people decided to 786 00:43:27.489 --> 00:43:28.409 put masks on? 787 00:43:28.449 --> 00:43:31.050 Oh, you think it's like a false flag? Well, no, 788 00:43:31.090 --> 00:43:35.429 because they're doing it again. They're doing it again next week. 789 00:43:35.889 --> 00:43:40.090 You know what? It's, you know, I wish, you know, 790 00:43:40.110 --> 00:43:41.590 that's the thing. You know, a couple of years, I 791 00:43:41.610 --> 00:43:43.530 don't know, about a couple of years ago, maybe like 792 00:43:44.210 --> 00:43:47.429 a gazillion years ago, I would have sought the same thing. 793 00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:51.250 But sadly, you know, I've been on these campuses. You know, 794 00:43:51.530 --> 00:43:54.630 I obviously I'm a long time graduated already from these 795 00:43:54.650 --> 00:43:56.369 kinds of places. But I do go I do a 796 00:43:56.389 --> 00:43:59.210 lot of reporting on stuff going on in the Ivy League. 797 00:43:59.230 --> 00:44:02.809 Some of it is just sports. But sadly, these people 798 00:44:02.909 --> 00:44:05.590 are in abundance. It's real. No one needs to make 799 00:44:05.630 --> 00:44:08.789 them up. And I thought it was a great moment 800 00:44:09.389 --> 00:44:12.619 in the way that people showed up very much outnumbered. And, 801 00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:14.340 you know, you got to be louder than these people. 802 00:44:14.420 --> 00:44:15.920 I keep telling people. I know you want to go 803 00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:18.840 to these things and counter-protest with a baseball bat or 804 00:44:18.860 --> 00:44:22.360 your fists or a gun, but bring a bullhorn. Be 805 00:44:22.590 --> 00:44:25.030 louder than these people. You've got to be louder than 806 00:44:25.070 --> 00:44:28.610 them because they're not used to it. They think you're 807 00:44:28.630 --> 00:44:33.130 going to run and cower, and it's not going to happen. Listen, 808 00:44:33.829 --> 00:44:36.460 you talk about the small number of people. That's a 809 00:44:36.500 --> 00:44:41.420 trigger for me because in Hungary, for example— entire neighborhoods 810 00:44:41.739 --> 00:44:43.960 were rounded up by one guy with the rifle. I mean, 811 00:44:44.019 --> 00:44:46.989 Oh my God, the second amendment. If you want to 812 00:44:47.030 --> 00:44:49.170 talk about something that bothers me about the Jewish, my 813 00:44:49.210 --> 00:44:51.849 fellow Jews, when I'm here, when I meet fellow Jews 814 00:44:51.869 --> 00:44:54.190 who have, who are squeamish about guns, I want to 815 00:44:54.289 --> 00:44:56.889 slap them across the face. We live in a country 816 00:44:56.929 --> 00:45:00.880 where we can arm my dead ancestors. I owe them. 817 00:45:01.579 --> 00:45:04.300 I owe them one on this. I owe them one 818 00:45:04.699 --> 00:45:09.139 because honestly, uh, I can arm myself and they can't. 819 00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:11.119 Teddy and Yonkers, you want to talk Veterans Day? 820 00:45:11.980 --> 00:45:14.820 Jake, how you doing? Jake, you are the best host 821 00:45:15.219 --> 00:45:20.360 on WABC Radio. You're perceptive, you're objective, and you criticize 822 00:45:20.460 --> 00:45:23.510 both sides. And I want to praise you for that. 823 00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:25.389 That's the first thing I want to say. 824 00:45:26.449 --> 00:45:26.710 Jake. 825
00:45:27.530 --> 00:45:27.969 I hope. 826 00:45:28.409 --> 00:45:31.269 Trump said recently that there's going to be no more 827 00:45:31.389 --> 00:45:35.849 raids in Iran. No more military action. Well, how the 828 00:45:35.869 --> 00:45:39.239 hell is he going to determine that Iran will not 829 00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:40.980 have a nuclear weapon? 830 00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:43.780 We just got him tonight, though. There were tons of 831 00:45:43.820 --> 00:45:47.400 raids tonight, I'm happy to say. I mean, this has 832 00:45:47.659 --> 00:45:50.840 been funny in a lot of ways. I remember him 833 00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:55.619 very explicitly during the 2016 campaign making fun of the 834 00:45:55.800 --> 00:45:58.579 Obama administration telling everybody when they were going to attack 835 00:45:58.619 --> 00:46:01.420 and when they weren't going to attack. And, you know, 836 00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:05.030 he's already broke, you know, he's already given a lot 837 00:46:05.050 --> 00:46:07.969 of misdirection on this. So I get so I'm encouraged, 838 00:46:08.449 --> 00:46:10.949 you know, looks, actions speak louder than words, even when 839 00:46:10.969 --> 00:46:14.880 you're the president of the United States. And although words 840 00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:17.000 of a president are much more important than other people, 841 00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:20.539 but his actions since He's said a few things that 842 00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:22.440 seem like he's getting a little wishy-washy about the war. 843 00:46:22.699 --> 00:46:25.400 The actions don't back that up, I'm happy to say. 844 00:46:25.860 --> 00:46:29.159 We hit Kesham Island. We've hit a number of other targets, 845 00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:31.739 I think, in the last several hours. I mean, it's 846 00:46:31.780 --> 00:46:35.980 not full-out war, but it's certainly not the retreat. You 847 00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:39.449 make a very good point, though. We can't, look, you know, 848 00:46:41.449 --> 00:46:43.409 this is an impossible situation in a lot of ways. 849 00:46:43.449 --> 00:46:45.369 We have a regime that will be happy to kill 850 00:46:45.489 --> 00:46:47.730 every one of their own people and maybe even themselves 851 00:46:47.769 --> 00:46:51.179 before they surrender. That's something like we haven't seen since 852 00:46:51.739 --> 00:46:54.219 Nazi Germany. And by the way, there were generals in 853 00:46:54.260 --> 00:46:57.400 Nazi Germany who were ready to surrender. And Admiral Donitz, 854 00:46:57.420 --> 00:47:00.500 for example, was ready to do that, but Hitler wouldn't 855 00:47:00.539 --> 00:47:04.489 allow it. And, you know, there were a lot of 856 00:47:04.550 --> 00:47:08.929 extra deaths unnecessary. What a lot of Americans don't understand 857 00:47:08.989 --> 00:47:11.230 is that these people don't think the way we do. 858 00:47:11.369 --> 00:47:14.190 I'm not making a DNA or racist comment. This is 859 00:47:14.250 --> 00:47:17.110 a cultural thing. And this is a cultural thing. We're 860 00:47:17.150 --> 00:47:19.719 dealing with people who are very happy to burn down 861 00:47:19.739 --> 00:47:23.019 their own lives, their own families, and their own selves. 862 00:47:23.539 --> 00:47:25.699 And they can't be bought. Some of them can, but 863 00:47:25.739 --> 00:47:29.449 they can't be bought, and they can't be convinced. And 864 00:47:29.469 --> 00:47:31.150 I think President Trump knows that. But do you want 865 00:47:31.170 --> 00:47:33.250 to be the politician to tell the American people, hey, look, 866 00:47:33.269 --> 00:47:36.349 we're up against this suicidal regime that can't be ever 867 00:47:36.489 --> 00:47:38.610 negotiated with. We're going to have to go with them. 868 00:47:38.630 --> 00:47:40.409 I mean, you know, I can understand why I wouldn't 869 00:47:40.429 --> 00:47:44.530 want to give that message. I get it. Teddy, thank 870 00:47:44.550 --> 00:47:45.960 you so much for calling, and thank you for your 871 00:47:45.980 --> 00:47:49.500 kind words. This has been an amazing four hours here 872 00:47:49.539 --> 00:47:50.929 on the other side of midnight. Again, I want to 873 00:47:50.969 --> 00:47:54.130 thank my friend, Walter Sterling, who also just always has 874 00:47:54.150 --> 00:47:55.929 the kindest things to say about me. And he's been 875 00:47:55.969 --> 00:47:58.269 very kind. I'm glad I got a chance to fill 876 00:47:58.309 --> 00:48:00.329 in for him this evening. I know it was a 877 00:48:00.329 --> 00:48:02.210 little bit of a different subject matter tonight, but we 878 00:48:02.250 --> 00:48:06.050 had fun. We talked bagel. We talked war movies. We 879 00:48:06.090 --> 00:48:08.409 talked some horrific stuff and we talked some fun stuff. 880 00:48:09.130 --> 00:48:12.329 It's been a lot of fun. Enjoy this Veterans Day. 881 00:48:12.389 --> 00:48:20.949 Acknowledge a veteran. Thanks for listening to The Other Side 882 00:48:20.969 --> 00:48:21.570 of Midnight. 883 00:48:21.809 --> 00:48:24.349 If you like the podcast, share it with your friends 884 00:48:24.630 --> 00:48:30.179 and listen anytime at wabcradio.com and download the WABC Radio app. 885 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:34.130 Hit that subscribe button on all major podcast platforms. Plus, 886 00:48:34.289 --> 00:48:39.360 follow WABC on social, on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and X. 887 00:48:39.659 --> 00:48:42.099 See you next time for a new episode so you 888 00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:45.179 never have to wonder, what the heck is going on here?
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