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Speaker 1: What up, y'all? This your main man Memphis Bleak right here.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeartRadio and the Black Effect Network.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, y'all, you already know what it is.
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Speaker 2: Yours truly, Miff Bleak, back with another exclusive episode of Rock Solid Podcast. And I got something special going on right here all the way straight from Detroit. You know what it is, man. I've been a fan of these guys. Watched them come up. We was on the road together a few stops, popping up, doing our thing. He one of the illest spitters, man. Let's welcome my brother Bazaar to the building from D12. You know what it is. What's up, my guy?
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Speaker 1: What's cracking with you?
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Speaker 2: How you been, man? Yo, I just seen you on the net. Your pin game is still elite.
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Speaker 1: My guy. Man, man, thanks, thanks.
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Speaker 2: Yo, yo, so what's been the motivation to still even be like, yo, I'm going to get back into this?
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Speaker 3: I met this producer that was like an underground producer. He didn't even like to leave his basement.
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Speaker 1: Them the best ones. Them the best ones.
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Speaker 3: So I started going over to his basement and recording. And he had a lot of, like, young, hungry MCs over there. So it just started reminding me when we was growing up. You know what I'm saying? Like, just the grittiness of it. So I couldn't let the little young niggas beat me on the verses. So it started getting competitive in that basement.
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Speaker 1: No way. Still to this day, you're like, I'm going to spec these little niggas.
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Speaker 3: Right, yeah.
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Speaker 1: That's right. But that's what make your pen sharp.
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Speaker 2: And that's the thing I used to miss when Rockefeller was over, that it wasn't nobody.
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Speaker 1: To sit there and like spar with. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: Because sitting in the room with everybody rapping, it made you feel like, what you say?
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Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm going to murder him. And then now, that's dope, man. So you said spar, you mean like? Like, almost like boxing, like, but you just sparring, but with the lyrics. So, was y'all, like, letting each other hear each other's verses before y'all spit them, or?
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay. Like, we'll be sitting there in the room together, nigga be like, yo, look, I got this eight, look, ah, ah, ah, ah.
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Speaker 1: See, now, we don't do that.
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Speaker 3: We don't let nobody hear verses, but you'll look at the nigga in the corner, and you see how he looking like. I'm like, damn, he got some shit. Let me go back. That nigga look like he. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: What the fuck is he writing over there? You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: That's crazy that now we used to be in there and spit to each other. A person like Freeway would do that. Freeway would be over there like this. You'd be like, the fuck?
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Speaker 1: What are you doing?
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Speaker 2: And then you knew his flow was different. So I agree with that. But before we go to now, me, like I said, bro, I'm a fan. I've been here from the beginning. I love what y'all do. I love what y'all did. Take us back to the beginning, man, the Detroit days. What was life like back then?
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Speaker 3: Man, Detroit. Detroit was wild, man. It was crazy. It was wild and crazy. And it was like, a little small community, which is the hip-hop scene, the J Dillas and all the, we was basically trying to survive in that motherfucker.
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Speaker 1: That's right. That's right. So I think my biggest fight was to stay hip-hop. You know what I'm saying? Because I come from a gangster city. So it's like. Pimps and players. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: That's my first time in the D, man. It was pimps and players, minks and gators out there on the strip.
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Speaker 1: The hoes running loose, baby. Man, yeah.
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Speaker 2: So that's what's up, man. So Detroit always had a serious underground battle rap scene. You know, before the rest of the world even paid attention to what was going on out there, y'all was definitely putting it down on the battle rap underground.
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Speaker 1: How did that shape you as an MC?
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Speaker 3: Man, it sharpened my skills, man, because we used to battle every week, and it was just something serious, man.
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Speaker 1: It was like, It was like, damn, what he gonna say? What he gonna come with?
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Speaker 3: And then we had random battles to where they put everybody's name in a hat and they shake it up. And whoever, two names come out, y'all gotta battle with each other. So I gotta have.
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Speaker 1: A couple lines in my head just in case I run into you in a battle. Damn.
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Speaker 2: Damn, so y'all was just shitting on random niggas. Imagine you never battled them. You like, I just got a random verse crucifying you, fam.
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Speaker 1: You got to stay sharp, man. You got to stay on your toes. Nah, that's what's up, man. But you, right, let's get to this.
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Speaker 2: Your style was completely different from everybody else, man. Like, and not me, I'm intrigued. Like, how did you develop that? And what made you even feel like, yo, I'm going to go this way? Man, I think I've always been a bizarre kid, man. That was my rap name when I first started off. My teacher, I used to be in the class, like, rapping to myself. She thought I was talking to myself. So they used to start calling me the bizarre kid.
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Speaker 3: So I just think, man, just my personality and how I look at shit, because I'm really like a comedian, too. So, yeah, I think I've just always been different.
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Speaker 1: I'd say.
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Speaker 2: That's what's up, man. Your style was always different, and you stood out, like, a lot. But I got to give my guy, like,
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how did the relationship start? Rest in peace, my guy Proof, because he was an elite spitter. Like, you know certain people from certain regions, you hear them, and you're like, Man, that nigga sound like he from the block with us.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, great.
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Speaker 2: How did that relationship with, you know, him and the whole D12, how did y'all link up?
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Speaker 1: Man, Proof, I met him at the hip hop shop.
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Speaker 3: He was like one of the most known rappers in the underground. And I went to the hip hop shop and I rapped. And he was looking up top. He was like on this like tower or something. Did he? He came down like, y'all want me to come down there? And then he jumped in the cypher and he heard me. And he was like, yo, man. That's exactly what he said to me. He said, yo, man, what's your rap name, man? I said, it's Bizarre Kid. He said, Bizarre Kid? Nigga, take that kid off your name. Nigga, you ain't from New York.
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Speaker 2: All right, my name Bizarre. That's just something. You ain't from up top. You just Bizarre, dog. That's a real one, yo. That's a real one. Yo, that's dope, man, because when everything took off, you know, Em did his thing like heaps. Mega, mega, mega did his thing. Like, come on, put everybody on the map. D12 had the major opportunity for Yarmark to break out.
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Speaker 1: What was that like?
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Speaker 2: What was happening behind the scenes then when he was taking off and y'all knew, hold on, we up next to bat?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Man, it was surreal, man, because it was like, it just went like a domino effect. You know, first he got the call. He told me he was signing to Dre. Then he went from that to like blowing up. Then I was on the road with him, just out there, not rapping, not doing nothing, just grinding. I seen his shit, so Actually, I was the first rapper that they was going to sign to Shady.
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Speaker 1: Damn. He just came to me while on the road like, yo, I want to sign you. I'm like, damn. This shit is moving. Word up. Word up.
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Speaker 3: And then before I know it, man, the group was popping and Purple Pills and shit.
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Speaker 1: We was on the road.
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Speaker 2: That's what I was just about to say, man. Devil's Night is out. Devil's Night go crazy. You got Purple Pills. Fight music.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: What brought my band, like, what'd you remember about making those records?
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Speaker 1: My band, man.
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Speaker 3: My band, I think it was, I just remember, I think we went Christmas shopping and we came back to the studio and Em had it already laid out.
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Speaker 1: We thought it was funny. It was hilarious, man.
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Speaker 3: But I think my part on the, what's my part? God damn it, I'm sick of this group. Time for me to go solo and do some, He told me to do sit-ups and get back.
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Speaker 1: Yo, G.
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Speaker 3: Oh, you're giving me a flashback.
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Speaker 1: I'm coming back to that guy. That's right. Bring my shower cap back. Yo, that's right. Use the shower cap, God.
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Speaker 3: Word up. You put it on the map, though. Now the girls rocking bonnets, man.
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Speaker 1: They jump. Okay, now, yeah. Tell them. Tell them. I was wearing the shower caps first. You know, that's a fact.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: They granny, they aunties wasn't outside like that. Oh, man. They had their shit wrapped up with the bobby pins and the doobie wraps, you know?
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Speaker 3: Man, I used to come on stage with that shower cap on and my shirt off, and I'd just be sitting there looking. I'd just be looking at that bitch, and I'd be looking like, you're fucking disgusting. But I love it.
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Speaker 1: Word. That's fire. That's fire. Like, Devil's Night, if I'm not mistaken, what, y'all sold like three, four million? Four million. Four million. Come on, man. What was that like? Like me, I'm going to keep it all the way. A hundred. I ain't go plat. My shit stopped at 900. Like, damn. Ooh, just that close. Like, what happened? What happened? A honey mold? Fuck with me? Damn. Photo? Y'all put that. Y'all put a square on the board. Yeah. Man, that was dope. Yeah, man. Put a lot of work in, too. Hell, yeah.
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Speaker 2: What was the celebration party like that back in Detroit? Because y'all you know, y'all got them things out there.
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Speaker 1: They're natural. No BBLs.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Man. Man. I don't know what I was doing. Man. Man.
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Speaker 3: That was back in my addicted to jacuzzis days, man. I was addicted to jacuzzis, man.
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Speaker 1: I was just at the hotel. Damn, I'm late. I was living in the hotel. Damn, I'm late. I'm just getting on the jacuzzi shit.
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Speaker 3: Word.
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Speaker 2: I just told the pool. I'm getting the pool installed. Told the nigga, hey, I need the hot tub.
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Speaker 1: Man. Word to James Brown, I need the hot tub. Yo. Thank God.
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Speaker 2: What was it like when, because man, like Shady, y'all had a major movement.
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Speaker 1: M killing shit. D12 moving. And then y'all picked up 50. Obie Trice, yeah, yeah. Obie Trice.
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Speaker 2: Yo, Obie one of the niggas had to see you in the club and bar you down, then be like, yo, let's get a drink together. Like, my nigga, you just killed me with a verse right here, like a battle, and then now we going to take a shot?
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Speaker 1: Like, what am I supposed to? I'm in your hood. Fuck it, let's do it. Man, that's crazy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Obie came out putting it down, man. What was it like, all of y'all? Because then 50 came along, and y'all had the whole movement, man. Y'all took over the whole rap game.
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Speaker 1: Left no room for us. Kicked us out, man. Nah, man. Y'all had a strong run, too, though. Yeah, nah.
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Speaker 2: We had a nice run, but fuck our run right now. We talking about your run.
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Speaker 1: Man, it was crazy, man. It was a lot of just.
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Speaker 3: I just got, like, sections, and it's probably, like, the same little sections that you remember as, like, catering.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Catering.
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Speaker 3: Yo, you need to do catering tickets and come through with a whole pocket full.
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Speaker 2: I got y'all. What y'all need? Cater plug. What y'all need?
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Speaker 1: I know the catering. Word up.
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Speaker 3: Just stuff like that, like, catering, flights, like, tour buses, like, Like what we did, if anything was over four.
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Speaker 1: Or five hours, I'm flying. I'm by myself. I'm like, man. They be like, damn, man, this is a 10-hour rap. Man, I'm flying. Damn, you wasn't road life. I wasn't rocking with them. It was over four or five hours. On the bus.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So I was a road warrior. Oh, you was in the bunk for 24? Yeah. Yo, bro, listen. You didn't even get up when they got to the hotel? You just slept?
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.
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Speaker 1: I get to the hotel, we up. But I love the road.
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Speaker 2: So I remember being on the tour bus, bro, leaving summertime in shorts. and we get stuck on the highway you know how you feel a car not moving you wake up and you're like yo what the fuck going on and get like yo it's a blizzard they shut the highway down now mind you i'm in shorts t-shirt and everything yeah it's fucking black coal on this bus all the bags on the bottom oh god it's like yo we had to make some i ain't gonna say no names but somebody had to go get those bags and it wasn't me like you feel me but yeah like Outside of D12, you released solo projects.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: You worked with underground artists, everything, top-notch artists. How was it establishing yourself as an individual artist outside the group?
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Speaker 1: Oh, man, it was hard.
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Speaker 3: It was hard because, you know, all they know me from is from the Eminem days. You know what I'm saying? Or just being a part of the whole movement. So it was hard to establish it, man. But I just took on, like, I just left the bazaar from D12 where it was at. So when I started establishing myself in the underground, I did a lot of shit that I probably shouldn't have. No, not did, but I treated it like I was a new artist, basically. So I knew I had to do more underground shows. I knew I had to, you know, this ain't about to be the arena. It ain't going to be catering.
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Speaker 1: That's right, yo. That's right.
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Speaker 3: We're going to get some McDonald's, some Wendy's to eat in the car, then we're going to go in here and do our thing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, nah. I know what it's like to hit the reset button like Nintendo. Right. Because it happened to me too, dog. Right, right. Wired up. And because remember, we tour babies, you know what I'm saying? So that's all we know is catering. You asked me, what was my first tour? What was your first tour? Upper Smoke tour.
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Speaker 3: And he gonna give me problems behind the scenes because I said hard knock.
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Speaker 1: It's the same. We had the same tour.
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Speaker 2: But y'all had more weed than us. My tour was bad with the weed. I had like three pounds of straight trash. I grew up hard knock. I met one stop that tour when we got to L.A. Shout out to One Stop. That's the tour I met One Stop. Shout out my dog, One Stop. Used to come through with the dog with the shaved butt. Used to be like, yo, fam, you got a half-necked dog.
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Speaker 1: Shout out to One Stop. Shout out my G, One Stop. That's my bro.
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Speaker 3: But he definitely had the half-necked dog with the gas.
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Speaker 2: And I remember when Sour first came out, because he was calling it baby shit.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Red Man and Method Man. Yep. I got to give them their props.
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Speaker 2: They the ones who introduced me to him and asked me. Rad was like, Bleak, what you smoking on? I showed him, ran through my zipper way and caught one in the room. Like, yo, give little bro some shit. And from that day, I've been smoking gas.
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Speaker 1: Ooh, you got some fire, too.
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Speaker 2: Shout out my dog out there, L.A., you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: I got a lot of L.A. people, man.
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Speaker 2: My man Cher Pelly, you know what I mean? The Jet Fuel plug. Backpack boys, high tolerance. You know what I mean? My man Louie the 13. That's what we smoking on today.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: Louie.
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Speaker 1: Okay. You know what I mean? Shout out to Louie.
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Speaker 2: Yo, what's one of the wildest places torn in the world that you would say you found some good bud at? That you would be like, yo, I wouldn't think they had it over here. I would say, shit, recently I just came from Canada. You got some gas in Canada?
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Speaker 1: In what part? I was in, damn, where was we at? Halifax. Halifax, yeah.
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Speaker 3: South of Halifax, yeah. Okay, okay, that's what's up. I ain't no Canada goddamn.
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Speaker 1: What about you?
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Speaker 2: Me, I ain't no friend. The wildest place I ever felt some gas at was in Africa.
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Speaker 1: Straight up. I was in Ghana.
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Speaker 2: Dude came to me with the pack like my nigga. My nigga, we got this. My nigga, huh. So I'm like, what's this? Open the bag like, my nigga. You my nigga. Like, word. That was the wildest place. But then, you know, you go to certain places, they be like, ah. But back to, I got some questions, right? D12 said this about our run. Let's get back to y'all, bro.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like this.
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Speaker
2: D12, y'all came up in the arrow in groups, right? You know, major forces in the game from Rockefeller, G-Unit, Rough Riders, Dipset. You had Smith & Wesson, M.O.P., Outkast. You know what I mean? Big Gip and them, my bad for Goody Mob.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You had all of that.
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Speaker 2: What you think would make a group successful in today's climate? Because there's not a lot of groups today.
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Speaker 1: Right. I say what would make a group as successful is probably... I'm trying to think of the right word. Compromise.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Compromise. That's a real word. That's a word a lot of people don't want to run from.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: So, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Compromise and learn how to pick your battles.
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Speaker 1: What battle to pick. You know what I'm saying? That's right. Can't fight every war.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Some wars you got to light it up a little bit. Yeah. Some wars you the victor, some wars you the spoiler. Right, right. I would say that. No, I agree. I agree. That's some good advice. Definitely. Learn to compromise. It's going to have to. Right. It's going to have to bend some corners. Damn.
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Speaker 3: Like you said, what group is out? I don't think there's no groups out there. That's what I'm telling you.
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Speaker 1: I think the last group is A $ AP, Bob. They even broke up. Yeah. Damn, I'm thinking about it. What group out there? I don't know. Niggas click up, but they didn't start out as a group. No, Razzcat Sons and They a group. They Razzcats? Razzcats a solo artist. No, his two sons. Oh, his sons. What's their name? I don't know. Coach Condra. Coast Conjure?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I got to check them out.
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Speaker 3: I ain't even know. They're like some leaders in the new school. They're the new leaders in the new school.
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Speaker 1: Oh, okay. I got you putting me on. See, I ain't even know. I got to check the little homies out. Razz Kaz is my dog, too. Word. Shout out Razz Kaz. LA out there.
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Speaker 2: Another spitter that'll bar you to death and they'll be like, yo, let's smoke one.
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Speaker 1: Fam, I want to write a fucking rap now. Shout out to Razz Kaz. I got some Razz Kaz stories, too, later. Yo, so Detroit.
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Speaker 2: Still growing city, got a lot of new poppin' artists, you know what I'm saying? Like, how do you feel about the evolution of Detroit's music scene today?
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Speaker 3: Well, a lot of people don't know about Detroit, man. We so diverse, you know what I'm saying? So, we got the ghetto tech scene, you know what I'm saying? We got the, you know what I'm saying, gangsta scene, you know, my Detroit players. We got the hip-hop scene with the Dilla. So, it's like, it's real diverse. It's real diverse. That's what's up, man. Y'all still pushing the line, man. Got a lot of artists out there. A lot of artists popping. Shout out Detroit. Keep pushing. Keep pushing the line, man. You continue releasing music independently, working with different artists like the next chapter look like creatively? You got anything new dropping? Yeah. Actually, I'm about to drop this album. It's called Don't Cross the Street. Don't Cross the Street. Don't Cross the Street.
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Speaker 1: It's just back to taking it to bars, man. Like, I don't really give a fuck at this album.
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Speaker 3: I just think, you know, we didn't did everything we was going to do, man. The BET Awards, catering, all this shit.
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Speaker 1: You keep saying catering. That's right. That was a big deal.
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Speaker 3: Trust me, I feel you, because I understand what Lil' Kim make.
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Speaker 1: Niggas ain't eating.
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Speaker 2: Without per diem until I went on tour.
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Speaker 1: It was like, where that per diem at? Oh, man.
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Speaker 3: Per diem days. Man, you just gave me a flashback. I got a homie, dog. Listen, let me tell you how Illy is. I don't want me to get off topic, but this is how Illy was on tour. The nigga used to take his weekly money that he made. He was one of my security guards, right? He used to take his weekly money that he made, and he would take his per diems. He wouldn't spend no money. He wouldn't spend none of his per diems, and he would put it together and send it home to his girl, right? The nigga would take all the food in the dressing room, put it in the garbage bag, the sandwiches and all that shit.
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Speaker 1: Niggas ain't eating the sodas. He would eat off of that. He a savage. I said, you a full-blown savage, dog. He a rebel. He was acting like he came from Ghana with my nigga.
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Speaker 3: He needed to be sending that bag back home. Spending your per diem money is crazy, man. I mean, to save your per diem money is crazy.
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Speaker 2: I was buying weed with mine. We was looking for that little 400 a week.
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Speaker 1: We was getting a nice little 400. We'd go to the mall. That's how you know we was fucked up.
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Speaker 2: We was discriminating against our own niggas because we would be like, yo, we in Minnesota.
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Speaker 1: Yo, let's go to the mall and look for a nigga who look like us. Right. If we try that today, you getting shot.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You walk up on the nigga today and be like, yo, fam, I'm trying to get that bud.
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Speaker 3: Nigga.
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Speaker 1: You the police, homie, you getting shot. So thank God it was back then.
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Speaker 2: That niggas in these cities and these towns was definitely showing love. We'd walk up on them in the footlocker, champs. They were saying, we out here, you know what I mean, on the tour trying to find the eye. They'd be like, yo, take my number. I'll pull up to the hotel.
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Speaker 1: And they'd come through. We was wilding because they could have
came through and stuck us. Everything.
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Speaker 3: Yep, because remember we had to find weed in every city unless you want to take that chance.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Nah.
00:22:25
Speaker 3: They didn't used to fuck with us, but I think when Wiz Khalifa came out, that's when I started hearing about tour buses getting stopped.
00:22:33
Speaker 1: Damn, Wiz fucked it up?
00:22:35
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? That's when then 2 Chainz, you know what I'm saying? Back in the day, that was like- Nah, I'm not going to.
00:22:41
Speaker 1: Put on the homies.
00:22:42
Speaker 2: Gloria Velaz bus got stopped.
00:22:44
Speaker 1: Oh, shit. Remember that bus? Yeah, it was a lot of tour buses getting stopped. Oh, shit. Like, see, yo, we- You got me going back in days now. I'm reminiscing now.
00:22:55
Speaker 2: Like, we got banned from a tour bus company to where Rockefeller couldn't order tour buses from this company no more. We went on tour. You know, we the young dumb. We got slammers on the bus or whatever. So I'm telling you, one of the homies was supposed to get the slammer, and he left it on the bus.
00:23:15
Speaker 3: Right.
00:23:16
Speaker 2: And the company called Rockefeller and like, yo, listen, we terminating y'all contract. Y'all can never rent buses through us no more. I remember getting that call like, yo, what's wrong with y'all little niggas?
00:23:25
Speaker 1: You could have got charged.
00:23:26
Speaker 2: Somebody could have went to jail.
00:23:28
Speaker 1: Like, word. Tour bus is wild, man.
00:23:31
Speaker 2: Tour bus days. Yo, and you spoke publicly, you know, about health, lifestyle changes. How have those experiences changed your priorities in life today?
00:23:41
Speaker 1: Man, well, I just dropped like 100 pounds. God bless, bro. I think, man, just priorities, man.
00:23:50
Speaker 3: Health is wealth, man. When you get older, man, you got to. You got to really take care of yourself. You know what I'm saying?
00:23:55
Speaker 1: One of my homeboys told me, he said, man, it ain't a lot of healthy fat.
00:23:59
Speaker 3: I mean, what did he say? It ain't a lot of fat old people. I'm like, damn, okay. I got to get my shit together. I feel you, buddy.
00:24:11
Speaker 2: Me and my bro, right, we always say that a lot of people say that health is wealth shit. And they just, I think people use it as a hashtag. Where they really need to take heed and go get the checkups.
00:24:22
Speaker 1: Go to the doctor. You know what I mean? You have to. You have to go get that yearly checkup. You got it. First of all, you think you better start going to the dentist. Yeah. Because a lot of these health problems come from the teeth, dog.
00:24:32
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:24:33
Speaker 1: Go to the dentist, fam.
00:24:35
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:24:35
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? It starts there.
00:24:38
Speaker 2: So I'm glad that we have more artists speaking up about health and taking care of yourself.
00:24:43
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:24:44
Speaker 2: I always tell Mike, I tell my kid, your first 40, you.
00:24:49
Speaker 1: Can eat whatever. Do whatever you want.
00:24:51
Speaker 2: You want to enjoy that next 40, you better eat everything you didn't like during.
00:24:55
Speaker 1: The first 40. I only eat once a day. Damn. You do intermediate fasting. 12 noon. Yeah, damn you.
00:25:04
Speaker 3: Unless I got to go to the studio and I got to smoke some weed. That's what I'm about to say. You fucking me up today.
00:25:09
Speaker 1: That's my fault? Damn!
00:25:11
Speaker 3: You fucked up my whole night. You fucked up my whole night.
00:25:17
Speaker 1: You fucked me up. My diet is over, y'all.
00:25:25
Speaker 3: Yo, Francie, don't look at this episode because you're going to be like, yeah, bitch ass nigga bleak.
00:25:31
Speaker 1: He on the diet. Man, man.
00:25:35
Speaker 2: Yo, with talks of new D12 music, what does the future of the group look like from your perspective? Do you see it coming back and making that move like y'all did?
00:25:48
Speaker 3: I think that was just a chapter. Sometimes you just got to leave. stuff where it's at, you know what I'm saying? Like, as artists, when you try to recreate something or redo something, it's just like, you know, it don't.
00:26:03
Speaker 1: Be the same.
00:26:05
Speaker 2: And the words of, they say from my crew, you can't recreate history.
00:26:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
00:26:10
Speaker 2: That's some real shit. Word, they always say that. I hear that all the time. Like, stop trying to rewrite or recreate history. You gonna do it, make new history.
00:26:18
Speaker 1: And you know what?
00:26:18
Speaker 3: I think that's my motivation, you know what I'm saying? Because, like, when I'm around my young dogs, they... They'd be like, damn, man, you outworking us, man.
00:26:26
Speaker 1: You half our age. Man, damn, you did this today.
00:26:29
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, I didn't did so much shit that it's like, you know, you got to be unconscious with this shit. You got to just keep going. There's no time to celebrate. Ain't no time to think about that shit.
00:26:40
Speaker 1: Nope. You did that back then. What are you doing now? That's what he's saying.
00:26:45
Speaker 2: That's right. It ain't about what you did 10 years ago. It's what you did 10 minutes ago. And niggas is stuck. A lot of these kids are stuck. That's why they got one flow, one zone, one this. They don't try to expand. When people get something that work today, they stick to it and drill it in your head.
00:27:00
Speaker 1: So you don't want it no more. Right. You know what I mean?
00:27:02
Speaker 2: I feel like in our day, we always try to discover that new.
00:27:06
Speaker 1: What's next? What's the next? What's the next? You know what I mean?
00:27:09
Speaker 2: So what collaborations or business ventures you focused on right.
00:27:13
Speaker 1: Now, man?
00:27:14
Speaker 2: Man, I just got a fishing show. A fishing
show? You see, I just had my guy Mikey the fish in the building.
00:27:22
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? What? I thought he was going to look at me crazy. We all fucking with the fish. Let's get it. Yeah, man. That's what's up. People don't know I'm a big fisherman. Oh, what?
00:27:32
Speaker 2: Damn.
00:27:32
Speaker 1: I used to take my poles on the road. Yeah. Every off day, I'm trying to find a lake.
00:27:39
Speaker 2: Yo, you just missed my man, Marina Mikey Fish.
00:27:43
Speaker 1: That was just here. Who was here wanted the pictures and all that. Oh, shit. That's why it's named Mikey the Fish. Wow. Yeah, that's what he do every day out there catching big sea bass, big shit. What? He live on the marina. That's Marina Mikey. What?
00:27:58
Speaker 3: I fished in New York one time. They took out the, I think it was this big magazine. They took me out on a charter in New York.
00:28:06
Speaker 1: Oh, what?
00:28:08
Speaker 3: How I learned how to fish in New York is, you gotta follow the birds. So wherever the birds land in the water, that's where the fish bite at. You got patience. You got a lot of patience. He could be a sniper.
00:28:21
Speaker 2: He the type that could sit on the roof for two hours and wait for you to come out the grocery store and pick you off. Because the fish, you have to have patience. That line could be sitting there all day. You know, sometimes you be on the boat, chilling, smoking one, drinking. Then you like, oh, we got some.
00:28:34
Speaker 3: But see, the way I became a fisherman is my grandfather always told me he was going to take me fishing. And I was sitting on the porch with my little bucket and hat, waiting on him.
00:28:44
Speaker 1: And then my mom be like, he's not coming. Come inside, boy. I'm like, yes he is.
00:28:50
Speaker 3: So I started fishing because my grandfather never picked me up.
00:28:54
Speaker 1: Damn, damn.
00:28:56
Speaker 2: That's what's up, man. When I got grown, I was like, damn. Yeah, I'm going to do it. And it's the dope hobby. I did a little crabbing. I know how to do that. That's a little easier for me. You probably need to go on like a charter where you know you're going to catch some fish.
00:29:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, catch some real shit. I did it in the, where was I at? I was in... Where was I at?
00:29:14
Speaker 2: Because they had me fishing without a fishing line.
00:29:15
Speaker 1: It was just the line. You just threw the line in the water and pull it up. You must have been overseas somewhere. Yeah, I was in some wild country. I forgot where I was at.
00:29:22
Speaker 2: Peruvia or something. I think we were, where the fuck we was at? I forgot where I was at. But yeah, I was fishing with no fishing rope. It's just a line. That's it. No fishing rod. None of that.
00:29:32
Speaker 1: Word. It's crazy. You catch something? Yeah, a little. I caught a little Nemo. I gave him back. Caught a little Nemo. I sent him back. You know what I mean?
00:29:44
Speaker 2: So, you know, when you think about the early days, you know, the Detroit days, rest in peace with my guy Proof M, what memories mean the most to you?
00:29:56
Speaker 1: Detroit.
00:29:58
Speaker 3: I think the memories I remember is like a lot of backyard parties, barbecue, you could smell that barbecue in the backyard, and everybody just sitting on their porch in fire hydrants. Like, Detroit is a city where you don't gotta go nowhere to have fun.
00:30:20
Speaker 1: Niggas just be on the porch, kicking and playing, cars. Throwing horseshoes. I don't know. You know about horseshoes? No, we was pitching coins. It's almost similar.
00:30:30
Speaker 3: It's a little bit.
00:30:31
Speaker 1: You know, you go to the fair, they got it, but I'm pretty sure they ain't like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:30:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I remember about Detroit. It's just players and, you know, money. Everybody got a bag.
00:30:44
Speaker 1: What is major money in Detroit in the name? All the money.
00:30:49
Speaker 3: Flew through Detroit. Yeah, Detroit got a low-key attitude. We got an attitude problem. I love my city, man. I remember one time I was in Coney a couple years ago, and I was in line, and it was these two little YNs behind me.
00:31:05
Speaker 1: And one dude was like, yo, I think that's Bizarre from D12. And dude was like, who? He's like, Bizarre from D12, Eminem group. He said, he looked at me, he said, so? He cool? He cool? Get off that nigga dick. Yo, chill. I was like, yes. Yo, chill. Like, Detroit, yeah, we're still winning.
00:31:25
Speaker 2: Fuck all that fake shit.
00:31:28
Speaker 1: It was funny to me because that's how our attitude is. Like, son of a nigga, fuck them niggas. No, it is. It's like that, man.
00:31:36
Speaker 2: Like, a lot of cities got that attitude, but Detroit definitely a roughneck city. It ain't one of those cities you're going to go out there and think it's just... Canada, across the water, casinos and pimps and players.
00:31:47
Speaker 1: They will hit you in your head.
00:31:49
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:31:50
Speaker 1: Straight up. Now, though, you could buy a lot. You've been out there a lot. You've been out there a lot. Yeah. I used to be in the D a lot, man.
00:31:57
Speaker 2: I ain't going front. Detroit, I wish I knew the strip club, bro. I got booked. It's only two cities that I ever went to a club, and it made me feel like, yo.
00:32:07
Speaker 1: Just get the money back. Like, we good.
00:32:09
Speaker 2: Like, fuck are we even doing here? Like, we went all the shit, but this is too much. And Detroit is one of them. It was a strip club out there, my nigga.
00:32:18
Speaker 1: We going in.
00:32:19
Speaker 2: I had my security guard with me. Shout out my man Tweet. And bro, they had girls stripping outside.
00:32:27
Speaker 1: Damn. The strip club.
00:32:29
Speaker 2: You know the big 45-inch rims, 50-inch, the dunks, the gold plated. I think it's outside. We're not even in the club. And I'm like, wait a minute. If
it's like this in the parking lot, what's inside? I'm looking like, I don't think we need to go in this motherfucker. But we went in, they showed love, man. Like, that's one thing Detroit always showed.
00:32:50
Speaker 1: The rock love.
00:32:51
Speaker 2: Word.
00:32:52
Speaker 3: Yep, they was showing off for y'all. Word up, my G. They turned up, man. I always fuck with Detroit, man.
00:32:57
Speaker 1: Word.
00:32:58
Speaker 2: Your group, y'all accomplish things no group ever have, man. Like, when you look back, what's something that you feel like they can never take that away from us?
00:33:14
Speaker 3: Probably like longevity. longevity and just, like I said, that word compromise, man. You know, a lot of groups break up and, you know what I'm saying, and fall out, but you just gotta have that compromise, man. Like we used to do with the songs, no matter what nobody wrote or did, still we all just split it equally.
00:33:36
Speaker 1: That's right.
00:33:36
Speaker 3: You know, if you do the chorus, you're supposed to get 15% right off the riff. So if I did a verse and I did a chorus, how much, that's 45. And then I produced the beat. Oh, you produced too?
00:33:48
Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying. Oh, I'm about to say. I'm about to say.
00:33:51
Speaker 2: You want to do a song with me? No, I'm about to say. Goddamn, what those pub checks from them D12 days look like?
00:33:58
Speaker 1: Word up. Like, hey, dog, you selling catalogs? You might try to make a deal. Let's make a deal. Wait a minute. Hold on.
00:34:08
Speaker 3: Yo, J.
00:34:08
Speaker 1: Cole came in and changed the game like that. producing his whole album, going double platinum. Like, the nerve of these young niggas. That's crazy.
00:34:16
Speaker 3: Who the fuck told them they could do that and get all this money? That producer check is a different check. What?
00:34:21
Speaker 1: That's that real check by G.
00:34:23
Speaker 2: I love that these young kids came in and changed the game up and took the helms and took what was started before all of us and the groundwork that was laid down for all of us and advanced it. Now these kids, like you said, man, they producing, rapping, writing hooks, sending them out. You see my guy in here, Dior, he cooking up. I told Hov, that ain't a fucking, the male unicorn. If it is one, straight up. What's the biggest lesson you would give some of these young guys out here, as we say, the YNs, about friendship, loyalty, and just business in this industry?
00:35:03
Speaker 1: Oh, man, I got a bunch of them. Y'all got all day. Y'all got all day. One thing I say, first thing is don't take shit personal.
00:35:13
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just ain't getting a call back because you're not hot right now.
00:35:18
Speaker 1: You're not him.
00:35:19
Speaker 3: Or maybe you just, you know, you ain't at that level. So sometimes some of your friends you might feel like is like, damn, you know, he ain't hitting me back. You know what I'm saying? Because
I hear niggas say, Like when they get a little hot, they be like, oh, nah, he wouldn't have called me back. No, you just had to come up to his level. You know what I'm saying?
00:35:40
Speaker 1: He can't hear you.
00:35:41
Speaker 3: This is what I tell my young boys. And this is the only game I can give them. I say, the music business is like one big ass TV. What you going to do to get on it? The station is moving every five seconds. Something happened. Okay, this motherfucker did this. This happened today. Somebody got shot. He put an album out. Bizarre did a freestyle. Tomorrow is something else. What is you going to do? Because we're all watching the screen. All of us connected to this. Now what you going to do to get on that motherfucking screen? Are you going to put that work in? Is you going to rap? Is you going to grind? Is you going to come to New York and sleep on the floor and eat dollar slices and go to record labels and sit outside and say 45?
00:36:20
Speaker 1: Talk about it. That's what's happening. Word up.
00:36:23
Speaker 2: That's what's going down. A lot of these guys really, really putting in that pain to get it.
00:36:28
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:36:29
Speaker 3: You got to put that pain in, man. You got to put that grind in.
00:36:32
Speaker 1: I would say.
00:36:34
Speaker 3: grind, you know, be professional. Don't take shit personal. Oh, here go another one. And the music, ain't nobody going to give you this game but me.
00:36:47
Speaker 1: That's right.
00:36:48
Speaker 3: In the music business, if you text a rapper, y'all having a general conversation, yo, what's up, dog? How you been? This is a smoking blunt or whatever. But if you get to the point and you were like, yeah, dog, I want to get you on my album. Or can I get you in the studio? And you don't get a response, that means no.
00:37:10
Speaker 1: That's right. And move on.
00:37:11
Speaker 3: Don't take it personal. Don't fuck the relationship up and getting your feelings and be like, oh, he didn't respond to me about this. Because you don't know what he's going through. He might be working on his album. I mean, it might not be the timing is right. Or it just might be y'all's styles just.
00:37:27
Speaker 1: Don't fucking mix. Well, he just don't want to tell you the record is whack and I don't want to get on it, dawg.
00:37:32
Speaker 3: Come with something new. Or maybe y'all can just be fishing buddies. You know what I'm saying?
00:37:39
Speaker 1: Throw the line now, man. Snag something else, man. Yo, man, you look better. You a better fisherman than a rapper. Let's get out of here on this water.
00:37:46
Speaker 3: I'm going to start telling these guys that, yo.
00:37:51
Speaker 1: You're like a better golfer than a rapper.
00:37:53
Speaker 3: Let's get out on the green. Let's chase a different green, dawg. Yeah.
00:37:58
Speaker 1: This is dope, man. You sound like you already knew that, though. I think you kind of follow that philosophy, probably. Of course, man. Definitely.
00:38:04
Speaker 2: I always tell these kids, like, what's not for you will not be granted to you. As simple as that. Like, you could wish, you could dream, you could work. If it's meant for you, it will come to you. The harder you chase something, the further it runs from you.
00:38:20
Speaker 1: That's some real shit. You know what I'm saying?
00:38:22
Speaker 2: You just got to be patient and know what's for you will come to you. Law of attraction is real. If it's meant for you, it will be in your possession.
00:38:31
Speaker 1: That's a fact.
00:38:32
Speaker 2: When it's all said and done, man, and the game is over, kicking your feet up on your boat.
00:38:38
Speaker 1: 10 lines in the water. It's coming, baby. You know what I'm saying? It's coming.
00:38:41
Speaker 2: 10 lines in the water, trying to catch the go for the blue sea bass that I just seen somebody caught.
00:38:47
Speaker 1: They said it was worth $ 10 million, and they ate it. It was like, what? Oh, shit. When you on that vibe, chasing that.
00:38:55
Speaker 1: That's crazy how you read that.
00:38:57
Speaker 2: What you want them to remember and say about Bizarre and.
00:39:01
Speaker 1: D12 I want them to say like.
00:39:05
Speaker 3: Bizarre was different a lot of people a lot of fans come up to me and say that I helped them through you know a struggle or or you know some shit they was going through so if I could heal people through my music or laughter whatever you know what I'm saying that's what I would you know take What's up?
00:39:26
Speaker 1: That's dope, man. I appreciate you.
00:39:28
Speaker 3: No, nigga, I want to be known as the hardest motherfucker in the world. on this motherfucking planet from Detroit, bitch.
00:39:32
Speaker 1: That's right. And you heard it here on Rock Solid.
00:39:35
Speaker 2: And you better tell your mama and your auntie and your cousins or not, we're going to take you fishing.
00:39:43
Speaker 1: Yo, I appreciate you putting up, my brother. Always love, man. You know what it is.
00:39:48
Speaker 2: Much respect to my guy, Bazaar. B12, like I said, rest in peace, Proof. Eminem, I need that verse. You never answered me back, so now I know it meant no. You know what it is, y'all. This rock solid.
00:40:03
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:40:07
Speaker 2: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows at. And you can follow me on any social media platform under the name Memphis Bleak.
00:40:19
Speaker 1: You see anybody fronting, flag them.