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Greetings, it's Dr.
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Burnett, Publishing Pusher, the all-in-body place of encouragement, cultural empowerment. Weekly,
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she'll engage conversations with entrepreneurs and creators. And these insightful
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interviews are designed to help us build our businesses, prospective brands, ourselves,
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and to hopefully propel us to that next level of greatness,
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Big Boss. So with no time to waste time, it's
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officially go time.
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Hi, everyone. Greetings. It's another inspiring episode of the Publishing
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Pusher Podcast with Dr. Annette West, your host, and I
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am delighted that you have joined us today. You know,
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one of the things I have come to understand about
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life is that we can be called to something greater
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while still working through the experiences of our past. Sometimes
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we know God has placed something inside of us. We
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recognize that there is more for us to accomplish, more
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for us to become, and more than we have been
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assigned to do. But there is sometimes something holding us back.
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Sometimes it might be fear, disappointment, a painful experience that
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has caused us to question our worth, our ability, or
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even our calling. And sometimes we have been standing at
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the doorway of a new season, looking backward at what
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happened instead of moving forward to what God has prepared. Today,
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I want to encourage everyone listening that your past experiences
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do not have to become the permanent address of your future.
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You can rise, you can pursue healing, and you can
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lead with purpose. This is the heart of today's conversation.
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I am excited to welcome Another minister, a woman of God,
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a friend I consider, my special guest, Dr. Carolyn Coleman,
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affectionately known as the Lady of Wisdom. How are you?
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I am great, Dr. West. Thank you for the invite.
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I appreciate you.
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Good to have you here. Let me tell you just
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a little bit about Dr. Coleman because she got a
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lot to tell you, okay? But I know her as, well, actually,
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I think the first time we connected on Clubhouse, And
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then I had a conversation with her when she was
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running a show on the network, on the television network.
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And she is an author, a publisher, visionary educator people,
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an ordained bishop, transformational speaker, and a kingdom leader whose
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work focuses on equipping individuals to move forward with wisdom, faith,
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and purpose. Today, we are featuring her book, Rise, Heal,
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and Lead, a 21-day devotional for women called to rise
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in faith, heal the heart, and lead with God-given purpose.
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Her devotional invites women to take an intentional, I love
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my favorite word, y'all, an intentional journey through scripture, reflection, prayer, journaling,
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and affirming declarations. And we're going to explore what it
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means to rise when life has tried to keep you down.
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How to heal when you've carried burdens for just too long.
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And how to lead when God is calling you into
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something greater. Dr. Coleman, again, welcome. Before we begin discussing
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your book, I want our listeners to get to know
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a little bit more about you and your message.
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Okay. Wow.
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Wow.
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My message is simple. Trust God, obey, and rise beyond
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your circumstance. I don't know what's going on.
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So Dr. Carolyn Coleman, what does that name, the Lady
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of Wisdom, represent to you? And how have your personal experiences,
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your journey, helped shape the wisdom you share with others today?
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You know, years ago, when I was asked to be
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a a teacher for the seminary school, my students, my
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first group of seminary students, named me the Lady of Wisdom.
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And so at the end of the semester, they presented
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me with a plaque that said the Lady of Wisdom.
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And throughout the presentation, they would say, not only are
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you teaching us about biblical teaching, but you're teaching us
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life lessons on how we can deal with life and ministry.
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So as
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a result of that, it stuck. And I
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became Dr. Cece, the lady of wisdom to them. And
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it has been with me throughout all these years. What
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it means to me is just that what God has
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invested in me through trial and error, disappointments and ups
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and downs, That I have to trust him, his wisdom,
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to give me the courage and the strength to endure
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whatever life presents. So, you know, the Bible says that
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the one thing we must ask for is wisdom.
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So.
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I said, you know what? They call me the lady
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of wisdom. God, I need to operate in that in full.
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So please open the windows and doors of understanding to
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me that when people ask for instruction and when I'm
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preaching that I have a right now relevant word from
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the Lord. So that's how the lady of wisdom was
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established and we carry it with great pride now. Amen.
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I love that. So one thing I appreciate about wisdom
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is that it goes beyond what we know. Wisdom is
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also reflected in how we live, how we respond to challenges,
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and how we apply what we've learned. And I believe
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that's a wonderful place to begin discussing your book because
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its title gives us three powerful words, rise, heal, and lead.
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So let's begin with that first word, rise.
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Dr.
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Coleman, when I think about the word rise, I think
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about I've got to do something. I've got to move.
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I've got to make a decision. And a decision means
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I can't continue to think and do, think the way
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I've been thinking and do the things that I've been doing.
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What do you say is the inspiration behind that word
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rise for us?
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To rise is to simply move from a place of
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not knowing to a place of knowing with understanding. And
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rising can be in small steps or rising can be
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in a massive overload of new beginning, new processing, a
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mindset that shifts. Rising can simply mean, you know what?
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I'm no longer going to limit myself based on what
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others say about me. I'm going to graduate from that.
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And I'm going to rise in my understanding of my
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own self-worth.
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You know, as you were saying that word, rise, I
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heard Isaiah 43, 19. Rise, rise, rise. Is that reflected?
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Because I can't remember. Is that reflected in your book?
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I know you have scriptures in there.
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Oh, yeah. I have lots of scriptures in my book.
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As a matter of fact, I'm glad you said that.
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Because if those that may be watching that actually might
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have the book, you'll realize in our table of contents,
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I did something different with the devotional. I listed all
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of the scriptures. I listed the 21-day prayers. I listed
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the 21-day affirmations. in a separate section. And I listed
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the companion to the quick reference guide. So when you
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talk about rising, and I'll give you a little backstory
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behind that, and we'll move to it. You can find
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that on page 123, the rising prayers on 127, the
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rising affirmations on 132, and the institutional structure on 134.
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And I'll give you the background to that. Anytime I'm
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working on a document or creating something, I always use
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the words, the information. Sometime it may be someone has
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created something for me and sent to me a video
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or a testimonial. And one young person, She blessed my soul.
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She said, in your book, Uncovered, in the healing series,
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we write the letters that heal. She said, I was
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up speaking and I wanted to share one of the
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affirmations in the book. And she said, I couldn't find it.
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And I didn't have time to go through the entire book.
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So because of her statement to me, In the new book,
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in this book, in my devotional, I decided to put
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them in a separate area that if someone is using
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it for reference, whether it's the prayer, the affirmation, or
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whatever the case might be, they could
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So if you go to, you talked about the scriptures
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that I use. We use scriptures from Isaiah that, I
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don't know if that's the one you're talking about. We
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use Isaiah 61. Arise, shine, for your light has come
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and the glory of the Lord rises upon you. And
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that's one of the ones that I use. And that's
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in day three.
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You know, let me backtrack just just a little bit.
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We need to be. This is good. But go back
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a little bit and tell us what was the inspiration
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for this book? And was there something particular happening? in life,
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in your life or ministry that made you recognize the
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need for such a devotion as this?
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I think God has been writing this devotional all of
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my life, if I tell the truth. If you want
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to put a pin in specific times, I could think
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of Of course, the most recent is the passing of
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my mom. Mama passed in 2024, and she passed at
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the young ripe age of 95. And she had inspired me.
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And one of the things that happened, approximately, I think
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about eight to 10 days before my mother's transition, she
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called me in the room and she said to me,
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sit down, I need to talk to you. And I
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didn't want the conversation because I already had an idea
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of what she was going to say. But one of
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the things mama said to me that in that discussion,
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and it has stayed with me after saying, she said,
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I thank you for taking care of me. And I said, well,
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you don't have to do that. And she said, yes,
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I do because you need to know that. But then
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she footnoted it with these words. She said, you know
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how to take care of everybody else. but I need
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you now to promise me you will take care of yourself.
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And she said, it's time for you to rise and shine.
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Lord have mercy. And so as a result of that,
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I think unconsciously, all of the notes from all of
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the devotionals that stay on our computers and all of
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the Things that God will give us that we wake
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up in the middle of the night. In my case,
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I record them as I receive the downloads from heaven.
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And then I send them to paper later. I said,
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you know what? There was a season when my mama
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died that I said, you know, I'm just going to
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let all this go. I need to rest. I need
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to reset. But she came in. It's funny. I'm here
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in Atlanta right now. And I've been thinking ever since
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I've been here, that time when her spirit came and
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she said to me, don't look back, keep moving forward.
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That means you have to rise. She didn't say rise then,
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but she said, don't look back, keep moving forward. And
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the only way that we can keep forward is to
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keep getting up. And you can't get up without first rising.
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And so that kind of explains why Rise, Heal and
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Lead exists today.
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I love that. I love that. So now let's get
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back to the rise word because your book talks about
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rising above fear and that's a central message in your devotional.
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In your experience with different women, what are some of
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the fears that prevent women from stepping into their God-given assignments?
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And how can they begin moving forward even when they
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don't have everything figured out?
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We will never have everything figured out. What helps us
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to overcome fear is to recognize, I think, what Paul
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said to Timothy in 2 Timothy, I believe. God has
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not given you a spirit of fear, but a power
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of love and of a sound mind. Well, a sound
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mind says that I make decisions without emotion. Operating without
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fear does not mean I do not have fear. It
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means that I'm not allowing the fear to overcome my
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ability to continue to press forward. So as a result
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of that, we recognize something. We've now began to understand
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that
if I am going to rise, I have to
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walk in fear. I do not deny that fear exists.
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I deny that fear has the main focus in my life.
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So I say to women when I counsel, when I teach, listen,
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do it with fear. Step out on faith. And when
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fear shows up, tell fear it has no dominion over you.
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And that's how we move past fear. Not denying that
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it exists, but denying its power to control our ability
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to reach for the goals that God has set before us.
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That's good. I love that you're able to hear. these women,
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hear the heart of these women and what's going on
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with them and to help them to distinguish between that
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waiting for God's timing and allowing fear to keep them
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from taking action. And that's a very important distinction. I
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personally have learned that preparation and procrastination procrastination can sometimes
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look very similar on the surface. I've heard you talk
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about this to some people before, you know, we're saying
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I'm waiting on God. Are we really waiting on God?
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Or are we just, what are we doing while we
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waiting on God? Are we procrastinating and doing nothing? Or
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are we actually heeding him and doing and putting some
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things in progress? So we may say we're waiting for
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the right time, the right opportunity, or the right resources.
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But sometimes we must be willing to take the next
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responsible step with what we already have.
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That is so very true. Because when you talk about,
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that's so interesting that you said that waiting on the Lord,
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because if we dig deep into what waiting means, waiting
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in the Hebrew means expecting God to move. So if
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I'm expecting God to move, I have to move with him, right?
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If I'm expecting God to move, then I have to
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take a step. I have to do something beyond my
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own expectation. And then we have to kill the old.
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The old idea, the old mindset, the old triggers in
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our lives that oftentimes somebody placed a word when you
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were a child or they placed a word when you
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were getting a divorce. Somebody might have said, you know,
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no man will ever love you. Somebody might have said,
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you know, you're not smart or you're not the right size.
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You don't have the right category. Well, guess what? That's
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what somebody said. But the question becomes, what do you say?
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What are you saying about yourself? What are you saying
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about your capabilities? Do you trust yourself enough to believe
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in you?
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That's good. Do you trust yourself enough to believe? Well,
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that's a deep question. That's good.
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That requires rising.
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So let's talk about recognizing a new season. How can...
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women recognize when they are entering a new season of purpose.
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And are there any practical steps that could be used
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to encourage her to think about and take what she
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knows and put it forward for her to rise?
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Well, I believe that we shift with the seasons That
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God presents to us, but sometimes I believe we forget
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that the seasons in the earth realm are also the
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seasons that we operate with from the heaven realm, right?
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He said to everything, there is a season, a time,
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and a place. I believe the body triggers us to
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know that something is shifting in us. It may be
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that you become so uncomfortable with what you're dealing with
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that you say something has to happen here. I know
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there's more for me. There's a shifting that comes, whether
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it is verbal, nonverbal, whether it is. I tell many women,
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have you gone through this process where all of a
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sudden you've got to change your room? And then they
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would say to me, why do you ask me that?
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I just did that last week. I said, because the
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the the movementation of heaven and earth says what there
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has to be a shifting. Something has to move. And
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sometimes people can't say, well, you
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to change something. So what do they do? They change
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something in the physical. They might go and buy an
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automobile to satisfy the change that really is supposed to
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take place in their inner man. But they're doing something
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that they know is shifting their movementation. And so I
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have declared with clear understanding that any time you wake
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up in the morning and you said there's something more,
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That's when you know the change is coming.
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That's good.
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There's something more. I need to be doing something more.
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And then you need to get about the business of
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writing down what you're feeling at that moment, what it
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is that you need to do. I finished a counseling
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session on Monday and I rarely do those because I
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don't have a lot of time, but this person insisted
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and the spirit agreed that you need to figure out
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first and foremost, what in life do you do best?
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What can you not live without that you are doing today?
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Why do you feel it necessary to explain yourself? And
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that seems off kilter. Why do you have to explain
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yourself to others? And then the third thing that has
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to be, maybe it is the fourth, that you have
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to be willing to do is do a self-evaluation. Is this,
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at this moment, Am I happy? Because an unhappy person
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cannot function at full potential. So get rid of the
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limited beliefs. And how are you going to do that?
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You're going to have to first define them. Who said
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what to you that makes you still believe the lie
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that you're not good enough? Who has spoken into your
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spirit in a manner that causes you to believe that
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where you are is the place that you will always be?
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So there are so many things that we can do
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and discuss in reference to that. But the main thing,
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the main issue is simple. Have you reached a place
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in your life that you know who you are? Because
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if you do not know who you are, how do
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you expect anybody else to understand you? And why should?
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That's good. Okay, so that's good. That's good, y'all. We've
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been talking about the rise. Now I want to jump
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over here to this word called heal, heal, heal. So
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healing is one of those subjects that we need to discuss,
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I think, more intentionally, especially within our communities of faith.
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Because sometimes we've been taught and we've learned how to
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praise through the pain, pray through disappointment, and continue serving
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while struggling emotionally. That's fine. And while prayer and faith
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can provide tremendous comfort and strength, we also need to
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recognize the importance of being honest with ourselves, acknowledging what
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we are experiencing. What say you?
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You have to identify. I say all the time, you
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can never conquer what you will not face. You have
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to be willing to examine yourself. Where you're hurting, admit
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that you're hurting and say, you know what? What needs
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to happen so that I can move out of this
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place of pain? I think if those who are with
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us on page 37, you will find something very interesting
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in day eight. Day eight, so important. The alignment. I
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heal anger in his love. Come on, how you gonna heal?
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You cannot heal on your own. Believe me. you can't
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do it. So Proverbs 3 and 6 in the New
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King James Version says, in all your ways, acknowledge him
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and he shall direct your path. It's very interesting. In
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the last three and a half months, he's spoken to
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me about path, path, path. If you will teach the
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body of Christ to understand the power of path, to
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understand the need to know their path, to understand that
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I am the one that will direct their path. So
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it says here, and I want to share this, this
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is the devotional reading, Dr. West. It says, alignment is
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the holy meeting between your will and God's way.
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is where the spirit fine tunes your steps and straightens
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what life has been. Alignment does not mean perfection. It
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means positioning. It is choosing to walk in rhythm with heaven,
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even when Ah, the path is unfamiliar. When your heart
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aligns with God, confusion loses power, clarity returns, and purpose
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flows with ease. Today is a day of divine alignment.
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Heaven is straightening your path. And the meditation prompt is,
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where is God aligning my steps today? And then we
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ask a couple of questions. And then there's a rising
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declaration that I think is so important as we prepare
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for healing. We have to prepare for him. God can
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instantly heal us. It can take time. He can heal
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us on this side or he can heal us on
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the other side. But we have to first go in
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agreement with healing. I rise declaration. I align my heart, mind,
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and steps with God. Rising is my assignment. Wisdom is
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my gift. And resting in God is my inheritance. I
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rise practice. Identify one area needing alignment. Write the adjustment
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and commit to one aligned action today. And then your
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affirmation is simple. I ride the line guided and moving
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in God's direction because healing is my portion.
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That's good.
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Healing is my portion.
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And healing comes when we are willing to move forward.
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Move forward.
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Sometimes we got to reach back to address what's there,
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but the intent is to move forward.
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Yes. The scripture says, forgetting those things that are behind me,
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we press toward the mark of the higher calling, which
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is in Jesus Christ. I do not digress to stay there.
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I digress to learn from that experience, to gain the wisdom,
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to figure out what I need to do so I
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can walk in my healing.
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That's good. Now, let's talk about forgiveness real quick, because
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so many people are walking in unforgiveness. And sometimes people
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don't even know it. That's the culprit behind what's going
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on with them. And we hear the importance of forgiveness,
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particularly within Christian communities. How can we help women understand
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the relationship between forgiveness, emotional healing, and healthy boundaries, especially
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when the people involved have not acknowledged the hurt they caused?
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Well, one, you have to accept the fact that some
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people are never going to tell you they're sorry. And
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you're going to extend enough grace to yourself to say,
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you know what? God has forgiven me because I haven't
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been perfect either. And so I pass grace forward. I'm
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going to forgive them. I always say the key to
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healing is forgiving. Because if I'm holding on to unforgiveness,
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it's somewhere inside of me taking up space where love
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is supposed to be abiding. And if I allow someone
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else to control me by the pain that they have
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sent in my direction, then I've given them my power.
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And my power cannot go to a stranger. My power
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comes from God, so I send it back in that direction.
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Y'all saw my head, my head was moving like, oh, this,
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I was like... This word is coming, y'all. You know,
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when you hear the word and it's getting good to you,
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and you forget, I'm about to forget where I was.
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But anyway, y'all, this is such an important message. Listen,
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we need to understand that it is good to love others.
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It is good to exercise wisdom. And sometimes we need
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healthy boundaries so that we can maintain compassion and without
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continuing patterns that are harmful. And I love Dr. Coleman
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talking about rising healing. It's important to acknowledge that people
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may need different kinds of support. And to be able
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to understand that when you are talking to someone is
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so critical.
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Dr.
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Coleman, as you are speaking, and I don't want y'all
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to think that Dr. Coleman only speaks to women, but
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a lot of the ministry currently is towards women. Let's
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speak to the woman who has forgotten herself. Like she spent,
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oh my gosh, she spent her whole life pouring into
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everybody else, supporting everybody else, serving for everybody else, helping
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everybody else, helping everybody achieve their dreams. What would you
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say to that woman about reclaiming her peace, her identity,
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and her sense of purpose?
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Fresh one. Fresh wind, refreshing a mindset, taking back ownership
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of her hope and recognizing that it is time to
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applaud herself. We spend lifetimes, our lifetimes supporting people and
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pushing and prompting them to go to another level. But
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at some point, you have to realize that you need
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to accept the vision for your life Jeremiah 29, beloved,
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I know the plans that I have for you there
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to bless you, why I owe you, and not to
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curse you, and to give you a hope and an
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expected end. No matter how much we love people, we still,
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and I say this to married women, when you get married,
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don't lose yourself, because that's what you're talking about many times.
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When you become a mother, I can say this. Don't
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lose yourself because I spent a lot of years putting
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me on the back burner because I had to make
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sure that I was taking care of my daughter. And
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I can remember just as clearly as it was yesterday.
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Now that we're speaking, I was praying one night and
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father said to me, you forgot how to hope. Oh,
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my God, you forgot how to hope for you. All
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of your expectations, all of your goals is wrapped around
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the success of your daughter. But guess what? You have
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to be made whole. Talk about the woman with the
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issue of blood. She needed to be made whole, not
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just from a blood disease, but from all of the
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stuff that came with the blood disease. So we have
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to be healed from, I need to support my children.
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I need to support my
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the cheerleader. I need to be the advocate. I need...
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to be me i need to be whole and complete
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so guess what i can stand on my own or
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with someone and still recognize one thing i have value
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And the reason that we lose our value, Dr. West,
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is that we forget our hope. But the word says
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something very important. He says three things will remain. Faith, hope,
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and love. Let me repeat those. Faith, hope, and love. Well,
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how do we rise? We rise with faith. We rise
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with hope that what we're believing for will come to pass.
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So there's faith, there's hope, and then there's the ultimate, love.
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I must love me. And because I do not know
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what true love is, I have to fall in love
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with Jesus. And then he reshapes me, he defines me,
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and he shows me through his character what love looks like.
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So now forgiving becomes easier. Now standing becomes easier because
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I'm not standing on my own. I don't have to
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continuously say, oh, I'm depleted. I don't have any energy.
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Now I say the joy of the Lord is my strength.
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Now I walk in the truth that you know what?
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I may not be much on my own, but I
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can do all things through Jesus Christ. It strengthens me.
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Those words have power and authority. And so what we
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speak over ourselves is validates our understanding of who we
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are as an individual. So yes, ma'am, it's all right
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to support others. It's all right to support your spouse.
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It's all right to validate your job, but never forget
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to validate your worth, your love of self and your
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love of your creator.
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That's good. All right. Y'all heard that, right? I heard that. Listen,
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I want to move into this third word here, which
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is lead. And when I think about leadership, I don't
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limit it to a title, a position, or an organization.
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I think for me, leadership is about how we govern ourselves.
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And it's
about our decision-making, our character, our stewardship, our relationships,
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and our willingness to take responsibility for the direction of
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our lives. And for women who are called to leadership,
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I believe there's a necessary connection between spiritual maturity, personal awareness,
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and their ability to influence others responsibly. Because leadership is
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not just about getting people to follow us. It's about
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understanding the responsibility that comes with influencing their lives. So
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can you speak to the connection between how your book
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moves from rising and healing into leading and why your
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progression is important?
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I'll start with the latter and then move forward. The
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progression is important because if I miss a step, I'm
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going to fall. If I miss a step in the process,
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then I will not be effective in the end. First,
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I must rise. My rising tells me there are places
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in me that needs healing. So now I work on
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the healing part. And once I rise, I'm in the
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position that I've healed from triggers. I've healed from what
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people have said about me. And most importantly, what I've
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said about myself in those moments of trials and circumstances.
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Now I recognize, hmm, Now, I do have the capacity
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to lead because what? Out of my experiences, out of
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the life lessons, I now have something that I can
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share with others that will help them along the way,
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that they do not have to walk in my path,
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but they can go further and in that the ultimate goal.
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So now I'm in a position of leading. And if
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you notice on page 76, As we get ready, we
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were at the end now because it's 21 day journey.
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But day 20 says something important. It speaks of the vision.
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I lead aligned with purpose. Write the vision and make
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it plain. And then though it tarries, come on somebody,
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though it may not show up right the way I
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want it, though it may not work out the way
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I thought it would work out, though it tarry, wait
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for it. Because it will surely come to pass. See,
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now that I'm a leader, I've learned how to process
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and wait in faith. That's Habakkuk 2, 2 through 3.
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In the devotional reading here, I share something that I
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think is pivotal to how we lead. Leading does not
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mean you have to have a title. So many leading
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women in the Bible are nameless. So don't get upset
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because somebody failed to call your name. Don't get offended
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because you were not called to the altar or to
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the pulpit. Don't get offended because you actually created the document,
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but they left your name off. See, I don't make
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those things up. I believe them. And through these experiences
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of life, I now have learned how to navigate the
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waters that has brought me to the position of leadership.
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Because I lead from the front, not for others, but
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for myself and God. And writing in this devotional on
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page 76, it reads like this. Vision is the language
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of destiny. It is how God whispers your future into
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your present. Vision is more than imagination. It is revelation.
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It is heaven showing you what is possible through God's power,
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not your limitations. Vision clarifies purpose. Vision fuels perseverance. Vision
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pulls you forward when circumstances try to hold you back.
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Every God-given vision has an appointed day. Delay does not
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mean denial. Waiting does not mean wasting. Today, God is
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shaping your vision, your spiritual sight, your purpose sight, your
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prophetic sight, write what you see, declare what you hear,
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hold steady because the vision will come. And the meditation
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prompt for that, which is the defining moment as we
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get ready to close out with leadership, you write the
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vision that God is reviving and expanding or birthing in
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you now. at this very moment, because there must be
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a now and a next in your life. The journal reflection,
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what has God shown me about my purpose or future?
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What vision have I delayed writing, pursuing or believing? And
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what clarity is God giving me right now? But I
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want to deal with this, ladies, men, because I have
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men who read my book just like women. The I
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Rise Declaration now, I received God's vision for my life.
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Rising is my assignment. Wisdom is my gift. And resting
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in God is my inheritance. And the prayer, I believe,
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God breathed this into the lives of every person who
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will read it. Lord, breathe on my vision. Sharpen my sight.
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Strengthen my faith. Give me boldness to write, pursue, and
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protect what you have revealed. Let your appointed time manifest
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in my life. Amen. And the rise affirmation, I rise visionary.
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Focus and align with God's appointed time.
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That's good, y'all. If you don't have this book, make
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sure you get a copy of it. Don't get just one.
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Get one for somebody else too so that y'all can
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be reading it at the same time and talking about it.
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Thank you so much, Dr.
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Coleman.
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I want to acknowledge your anthology also, We Write the
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Letters that Heal Vibrations of Healing. What I appreciate about
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this project, Rise, Heal, and Lead, along with We Write
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the Letters that Heal Vibrations of Healing, is that both
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books encourage women to confront their experiences, to acknowledge their voices,
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and to move forward with purpose. Rise, Heal, and Lead
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focuses on intentional individual reflection and personal spiritual growth, while
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Vibrations of Healing brings together multiple voices and experiences. How
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do you see these two books complementing one another in
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the overall message you're sharing through your own publishing company?
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Well, it's really simple and yet not so simple. Everything
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is about H-E-A-L-I-N-G. We write the letters that heal. That's
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my healing series. Rise, Heal, and Lead is simply about
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how we move from the experiences that we talk about
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in the anthology. people recovering from diagnoses of cancer and
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God dramatically healing their body, dealing with Dr. Robeson she
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deals with. And I saw her this week and I
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was amazed because she had to make a transformational change
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and saying, you know what? I want to change how
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my body looks. I don't want the weight. I want
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to get healthy. And now she's training people in a
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gym on how to get healthy, using the weights and
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all of that. So it is about, and these women
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say to me all the time, writing in your book,
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I began to heal with every word that God has
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allowed me to pour in, because guess what? We are
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overcome as the word says, because of our testimonies. So
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if someone is going through something that these women are sharing,
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then it allows them to recognize and kill a lie
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of the enemy that you're going through it alone. No
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one is experiencing what you're feeling but you, a lie
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from the pit of hell. So when they pick up
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a vibration of healing, the last book is Vibration of Healing.
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The third book talked about In Spite Of, which was
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my book. emphasis on learning how to move on when
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I've had a mother with me for all of my
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life and died at 95. having to make that transitional shift.
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I called that book Inspider because that was the season
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when I really wanted to just say, I've had enough.
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But my mother's spirit, I was going through her papers
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and I was just, tears were just rolling. And I
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could hear her voice as if she was sitting beside me.
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She said, don't go where God's not trying to take you.
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Depression is not attached to your name. Somebody needs to
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read that. So they will know you can't die right
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here because you're still alive. And so the other book
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was called Uncovered. Uncovered really shared a lot of things
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that I believe I heard someone say one time. Why
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would you share all of that? Because somebody is going
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through what I've been through and they have not yet
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conquered it that they can share it. Because when you
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can share it, you'll heal from it. If it's bound
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up in you, the enemy is still winning. But when
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you let it go, you share it with others, you
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allow it to become the testimony that the word says
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makes us overcome us, then we begin to do what?
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We bring light into the darkness. And that's what Rise, Heal,
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and Lead is all about. That's what the the four books.
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And now we're working on the fifth book in the
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healing series. We write the letters that heal in title.
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I give myself permission. And so there may be some
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women out there, Dr. West, that would like to be
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a part of the next anthology. And please find me
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at drcctheladyofwisdom.com or on any social media, theladyofwisdom.com and join
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the team because God is doing something very powerful and
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I give myself permission. And one lady said, well, how
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do I know what I'm giving myself permission for? I said,
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speak to your heart and talk to your God. You
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might want to give yourself permission just to be happy.
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Because you walked in misery. You stayed in a relationship.
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One of my books, I talked about with my mom.
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I said, my mom stayed in the relationship too long
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with my father. But she did it with that generation
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because what? They were trying to protect their children. And
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sometimes you're staying and you think you're protecting your children,
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but they're seeing the infidelity. They're seeing some things that's
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writing something in their memory that's going to affect them
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as young adults and older adults. So all of these
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experiences must be dealt with, must be addressed, because not
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only do you need to heal, you need to rise
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out of that situation, and then you need to help
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others lead them into a new path.
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That
was rich. So listen, she's talking about all of
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those books. I want y'all to know, I would be
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remiss if I did not mention this, that she is
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also part of my upcoming anthology, Women Who Carry the Word.
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She has two dynamic stories in there. And one thing
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I value about these collaborative publishing projects is that they
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preserve women's voices and testimonies for future generations. I'm excited
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about the November 19 release for the women who carry
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the word. And I appreciate you, Dr. Coleman, being willing
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to contribute to another meaningful literary project. As we end,
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I would like for you to share one of your
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wisdom thoughts with our audience. And also, you told them
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before how to reach you, but you can tell them
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again how they can get your books and reach out
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for you if they need coaching or any other insights.
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Okay, well, let's do the easy part. They can reach
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me on my website at www.drcctheladyofwisdom.com. In terms of a
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wisdom nugget, I think the greatest wisdom nugget that I
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can share today is begin to inquire of God about
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the path of your life. And remember one thing, your
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best is yet to come. Your vision is aligned with heaven,
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but you have to get in alignment with the word.
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Trust yourself as you learn how to trust your God.
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And you will do great things.
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That's rich. Thank you. I keep saying it's rich, y'all.
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That's like a part of the meal, you know.
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But Dr.
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Coleman, thank you so much for joining us today on
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Publishing Pusher podcast with Dr. Nat West. Thank you for
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your wisdom, your experience, and the message behind Rise, Heal,
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and Lead. To everyone listening, I want to leave you
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with this thought first. Your next chapter does not have
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to be written from the limitations of your last season.
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And then I want to remind everyone, you are blessed,
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then you are supposed to bless someone else. Serve King
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Jesus so that you may be the visible manifestation of
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his invisible presence. And I will catch you next time.
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Thank you again, Dr.
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Coleman. God bless. Thank you, Dr. West.
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Thank you, everyone, for listening to Dr. Rene's Chat Podcast,
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brought to you by Jotnay Publishing. Be sure to stay
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Shout out to Donnie Five for the production. Be blessed
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and be a blessing.
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Peace.