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All right, welcome back to plugged Talk. I'm here with
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the lovely Lene of the plug everyone, and today we
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are speaking to someone who we, uh, just a few
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months ago dick down together. Like I said, I was
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the dick mostly I was Dick right, But this is
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the one and only Cherry de Ville. Did I pronounce
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it correctly?
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Yes, you actually did, which is amazing. No one ever does.
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People say in stead Cherry, devile Cherry.
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All kinds of crazy stuff.
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Yeah, wow, well I need to read a book.
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Well I don't. I don't correct them that harshly, but yeah.
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I just couldn't think of it going any other way.
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But I agree definitely.
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You know Cherry's cooking line, Cherry's the fruit. She is
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the name.
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But call you the mill. You can the mill, the mill,
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the mill.
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We were just talking about that, Like, there are certain
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things like you you've been put into this mill category
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the whole time in the industry because you actually entered
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the industry a bit later. So it's kind of an
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interesting plot that you have going here. That's a different
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than a lot of people. Huh.
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Yeah, I think most I would imagine most people start
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when they're pretty young. That's the age when we're the
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most attractive and you make the most money in porn.
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But then there was this change. I don't know if
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it was like Lisa Ann when she did that Nail
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and Palin thing, but in the early two thousands, the
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whole genre of milf became huge and there weren't many
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people to fill that role. Some people like Juliet Anne
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started when she was young and then did teen and
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then Babe and then up to milf. But there's a
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few of us that started now that it's a thing
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as like full ass adults.
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Right, So what were you doing for all those years?
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Because you hopped into the porn world at what thirty four.
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Thirty three to thirty four somehere in there?
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Okay, what were you doing with your life prior to that?
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I'm still a physical therapist.
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Oh okay, that's amazing.
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I think it's so cool. When you told me that,
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I was like, that's amazing.
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Wow. So was that that's what you went to school
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for and that's what you did for your whole adulthood?
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Yeah, it turns out my vagina makes like way more
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money than my brain.
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I would actually have assumed that, you know, the friends,
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it seems like, it's kind of easy's you.
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Know, she's she's a moneymaker, and I'm glad and I
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can just sort of let the brain part, you know,
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take a little baking.
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When you were just a civilian, where you engaged with
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your sexuality too? Or were you running around in these streets,
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were you in a relationship? What was that?
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I don't do this anymore, just out of respect for
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my coworkers, But I was a huge swinger. I would
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go to swingers clubs every weekend. Fuck whoever. I the exhibition.
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I liked fucking old people were watching. I liked being
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invited into people's relationships.
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Like, yeah, okay, so how did you get into that?
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And this is very interesting, very interested in the swinger world.
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We went to one party, which you might end up
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telling you about a bit later. I've talked about on
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the podcast like a million times. But I'm interested. How
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did you find out about that world? And how did
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you over the first couple of times.
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It was a little bit of hard work because my
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first couple of times were terrible. It's actually hard to
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find a club, and I would recommend private clubs. And
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this is going to sound awful, but for me, I
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like the clubs where you have to submit your resume,
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you have to show your picture, and then you're either
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let in or not. So that to me, I enjoy
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certain types of people. I enjoy attractive people. So you know,
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if you go to one of those clubs that's a
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little more exclusive.
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You're not kinded that you have to fill out like
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this crazy long resume when you go. No.
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And it also, at least when I was in Nashville, Tennessee,
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I think it was part of the legality of having
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it because it was never at people's houses. It was
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at a pre standing club that's only purpose was to
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be a swingers club, three stories of like stages and
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like couches and all kinds of different like interesting equipment
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and stuff like that. So in order to have alcohol
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and people and sex, it had to be a private club, right,
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So that was the way.
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To the application process. Makes total sense to me because
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I mean, picture being in an average club. What percentage
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of the people in this club do you want to
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have sex? But like probably not a huge percentage. Right.
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Do you ever play that game at the airport? Whose
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genitals would you put in your mouth?
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Yeah?
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Because I do that in my head all the time,
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I'll be like, babe, whose genitals would you put in
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your mouth?
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Right? That was me bored in high school looking around
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the science class thinking if I had to have sex
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with someone in here, who would it be, and like
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really trying to rank them in my head because it
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was that bored. I haven't done that in probably twenty
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science class at least. Sometimes. Yeah, I never thought about.
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Game in science class.
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Talking life, I mean sometimes you just think, like if
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I had to reproduce with someone, who would it be? Yeah,
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So okay, the swingers clubs, once you start going like
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what was your first time? Like do you just go
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crazy on your first time? And you did your tone times?
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We're not in this private club, so I was like,
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I don't know if I'm gonna like it. I'd find
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like the one or two cute people at the club
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and like bang them, and it was fine, but it
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wasn't like the experience that I had, Like the fantasy
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in my head.
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What was the fantasy of just yet.
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Is probably like anyone you imagine going into a room
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with like scantily clad gorgeous women on the stripper poles,
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and they might not be all out to bang you,
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but they're all ready to bang tonight, do you know
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what I mean? So, yeah, that's my so just beautiful
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people scantily clad, ready to.
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Beg And you're still into the swinging thing, Like if
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you weren't working, if.
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I weren't working, I would definitely do it. Yeah, I
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feel like working satisfies what's the exact same thing. Working
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and swinging are kind of the same in that you
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get to have awesome sex without the emotional strings. So
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work totally fills that void for me.
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It's a little bit less spontaneous, though, Do you miss
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like the spontaneity of not knowing who you're gonna land?
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Yes? And the part I miss the most is the chase.
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It turns out I like the chase as much as
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I like the sex I like, especially with women, I
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feel like it's a challenge, and when you get to
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bang them after like flirting and whatever you do, it's
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like feels really emotionally successfully.
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I can see that makes.
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Away some of the challenge, right because you're sort of
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going in there and is it almost like everybody there
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is just gonna be down to fuck you. Have you
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put in the requests or an incredibly high percentage hyde
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each other.
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Say it's hard to say, and yeah, you'll find like
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you'll find maybe a couple you like. And it's almost
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like everyone's like vetting each other for a job interview
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that's happening at three am, right like you're there at eleven,
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and you know, for the
next few hours, everyone's like,
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you know, is.
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Everybody fucking right in fun? Is everybody hooking up like
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right there in front of you? Or is it kind
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of like later on things just start to go down.
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Everyone's different, you know, there's always like the people that
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are like making out on the dance floor in this
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and that, and then at least in the clubs I've
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been to, there are areas for exhibition right where anyone
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is allowed to walk by. You're completely in the open,
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and then areas that you can close, Like you find
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a few people that you like, you go off into
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a private room.
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How many people are there? Sorry, I'm just like very curious,
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how what this looks like? All these people fucking at
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the same place. Is it like one hundred that maybe?
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And soeah, give me some hot experiences that took place
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in this kind of environment, like, because I'm sure that
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you have nights that are not so great.
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Yeah, there are plenty of nights where I just just
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never felt like the vibe with people. I'd say, like
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best for me, best case scenario is finding a couple
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looking for a third because I just I don't know.
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That's like like stuff like this is like my jam
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for whatever reason. Worst case scenario, and this happens a lot.
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Like say, there's like a time when I'm in a
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relationship or something and that guy doesn't like to do
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full swap, and then you're trying to find the the
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unicorn is what they're called in the swingers world. The
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single women that want to be with just you two
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is tough.
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Full swaps easy, So it's hard to find the third,
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even though if you just.
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Want a third, yeah that's hard. Really I like to
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be the third, but it's hard to find the third.
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Usually it's cowap.
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If we went, you're.
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Hard to find a unicorn.
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If you're a super hot chick, you got all kinds
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of options for getting dicked. If you're a couple looking
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to a girl, a little bit harder, you know, if
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you're just a dude just trying to get.
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Some still want to try to go to one of
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these on because she's convincing me that it's really.
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Fun, so fucking fun. Even if you just go and
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I've done this a million times and you just funck
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who you came with in public and you notice the
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crowds starts to build, I don't know it really does
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it for me?
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Wow?
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Yeah, it'd be weird if you feel like a good
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jump Hi, fine, look at us.
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We always do it for money, so it'd be weird
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to be.
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Doing it in front of a room of people for
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you're like now, but its you.
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Want, So it's like almost celebrity. I ain't going to
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the ship. We're gonna be filming me and ship.
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It was like, I bet there's a crazy no phones rule.
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Absolutely.
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I feel like I would mob you and take your
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phone from me if you'll put a my head here.
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I guess the concern would be celebrity it's la but
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in Nashville, the concern is high level professionals, right, and
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it gets kinky. I mean there's dudes getting sucked in
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the ass. There's sexual acts that you might not want
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to get out.
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See that might if I'm in the sex club and
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I start smelling dookie sex from a couple of brothers
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in the corner. I'm gonna be like, maybe this ain't
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the clip of me. I don't know much.
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Respect, but Tavi and we got really excited and I
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went to the sex party that they had to like
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shuttle us off to. It was all low key, and
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we thought like, oh, we're gonna get so much sex
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and so hot, and then all we did was out
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of watch this first guy get fucked in the ass
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by a lady with a strap on, and he
was just.
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Like, this is not interesting.
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I never felt more Vanilla in my life. Tweeting about it,
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and sure enough people from like the BDSM community and
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ship were quotes tweeting me l o llen at my
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ass being like, oh my god when the Vanilla people
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show up at the sex party, and I'm like, yo,
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like I'm not allowed to be shocked by this guy
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getting railed out in the ass by some chig, Like
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if that makes Vanilla okay fine.
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I kept checking his dick. I was like, does he
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like it? Maybe he like it?
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No movement.
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Like you're like on your phone trying to pick pick
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strap ons. You're like no, no, never mind.
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Phone like looking at Twitter, like just like I don't
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want to look at those shit other shit. Okay, but
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so you're doing the sex party thing for a while
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and whatever. Then how did you actually make the move
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towards porn? Did you ever a strip or escort or
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anything like that.
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It was actually super random. So physical therapists make a
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nice salary. But I've always been interested in the sex world,
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so I thought it would be fun to do nude modeling.
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That's it, just nude modeling on the weekend from you
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know the site model mayhem. Yes, amateur models, amateur photographers. Basically,
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they're paying to see you naked is the thing at
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the end of the day. So I did that for
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a while, also my sexy jobs. It's kind of the
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same thing. And then a headhunter for my current agency
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found me and was like, would you like to do porn?
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And I'm like, wait, what have you ever thought about it?
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Maybe in a vague fantasy way, but I didn't think.
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I wouldn't know how to get that. How do I?
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Who do? I call a lot of people I've never
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been propositions. A lot of times when girls get in
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the industry, their story is like, well, I was nineteen
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working at a bar and
some guy came in and
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asked me if I wanted to do a porn and
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then they sort of okay, yeah, sure, yeah, A lot
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of people never get that you get the offer.
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Yeah, but where were you were? You were in l
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Were you no.
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Nashville at the time. Yeah, I would have never known
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one of.
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These parties and someone asked you to do porn? Do
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you feel like it doesn't seem that scary because you've
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already like had sex and other things.
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I wasn't scared at all. In fact, I was like
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the only the only two things I did before I
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took my first job was call my family and make
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sure I couldn't lose my physical therapy license. The first
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well wait, it's not line. I mean I didn't want to.
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But but you're a grown ass woman at that point too.
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What are you gonna do, like two years in, get
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a phone call and be like uncle Joey Saw do
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you want?
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That?
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Is what? Everybody?
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Yeah, that's what but like they're gonna find out, Like
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to me, I have two choice, okay, three choices. Don't
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do porn. But if you're gonna do porn, which I
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really wanted to, you have two choices. Uh, create a
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rift by letting them find out on their own or
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tell them.
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But what if you did one scene and it sucked,
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you hated, he never wanted to do it again, And
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then you told your family you're gonna do porn?
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Would that be happy.
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I didn't tell him I was gonna do porn. I
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told him what I thought I was gonna do, which
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was go to LA for one week, shoot the porns
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that my agent got me, and then be like, look are.
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The crazy shit?
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And I did when I'm ninety.
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That was my whole goal, and I just really loved
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it out.
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No, I was gonna let them put it out just
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as like almost like as a sign that I really
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lived life, you know, almost like a I don't know
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if it's a bragging thing or like like I ran
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a marathon, I went skydiving, I did a porn. I like,
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just like it just made me feel like I was
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really like living, making experiences and living.
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Do you feel like that's kind of like an antiquated
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mind state now when girls just get OnlyFans, like the
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first they get fired from the diner and they're like, well,
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it's only fans time, you know, unemployment.
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It wasn't. I came in at the tail end of
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the video era. So I feel like even then you
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either were a porn star or nothing, do you know
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what I mean? Like either you were either getting hired
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by the big companies or I don't know, you were
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just there's some weird amateur.
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I don't know, twenty or thirty years ago. I feel
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like you could have done porn and maybe your parents
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never find out because you have.
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To VHS stone only physically get it, but admit to
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your child or niece or whoever.
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That you did it video and you shitty quality. It's
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like VHS. So that's not me.
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Anybody HD makeup in the nineties.
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That's you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm just so shock that you, like you did it
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in such a grown up.
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Way, kind of an adult.
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Sure, I can't lose my license.
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How you were you do five porns and now you've
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ruined your whole career? What if I hated it? Yeah,
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and wanted to like go back to work.
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But so, did you absolutely love it at the first
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scene or absolute?
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Really?
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What was your first scene?
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Like, well, my first I did Girl Girl for years
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because I wasn't sure about those boys and their penises.
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I wasn't sure.
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Guys for years.
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Years, Yeah, just because I thought maybe I
thought the
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dicks might be too big. And most importantly, I was
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concerned that, like I had this like image of male
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talent being like jerks or something.
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Really, you know, I don't know if it's.
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That I I like to watch really hardcore porn and
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I just wasn't sure, like if you could, are they
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actually mean? Are they? You know? So it wasn't until
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I like met male talent, became friends with male talent,
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was like, huh no.
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This is fine.
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The nice softies like sweethearts of you ever meet.
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I feel like the guys who go really far in
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the porn world are guys that women just really really like. Like, Yeah,
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I had been at the bar and seeing Johnny Stins
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walk up and just seeing multiple different girls like jumping
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on this dude and hugging them. They're obsessed with him,
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And I'm like, oh, like that that's a top porn
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start right there, Like the kind of guy that these
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girls love working with him.
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You know your vagina remembers of Johnny's been there, I'll
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tell you that he leaves a memory. Wow.
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Yeah, I feel like I just hear girls say such
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nice things about him and other big performers all the time.
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They're so nice. But so you met some dudes you're.
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Like, all right, I felt like you're okay, and then
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told my age and I was ready.
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Right.
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So were you just.
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Doing a bunch of lesbian milk porn?
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Then?
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Yeah, that's a big category.
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You know.
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I only moved here to LA to work full time
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five or six years ago. Okay, so I was mostly
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just being a physical therapist and like going to LA
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every other month and shooting porn and then coming home.
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And did you and just living my life?
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Did my what did your clients ever find out?
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No one's ever said anything to this day.
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That's amazing. I know she used to help me with
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my ten to night is.
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People are pretty pretty polite. Don't even think like they
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might just not say.
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Even now, but even I don't know. I mean I
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try and kind of look really plain at work, but
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I think I don't know if they're like this looks
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like a porn star. I don't want to ruin this
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professional relationship with someone who's helping me by saying something
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weird and sexual. I'm also like super fucking professional.
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Because you still practice.
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Now, Yeah, a little bit, but yeah, enough to keep
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my license. I wouldn't say like I'm practicing.
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I just work enough to keep so interesting.
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So compare the feeling at the end of a scene
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after shooting with a girl to the feeling after shooting
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with one or more dudes who have massive, oversized eggplant cocks.
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Talk to me about is it different? What's the day
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of work? How different does it feel?
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Well, physically, it's obviously harder to work with guys. And
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it's not the dick actually, so that yeah, some guys
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dicks are on my no list just because it's too much,
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you know, I mean.
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You as for that?
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Wow, Well, I mean always for anything, right, if it
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doesn't fit, it doesn't fit, nobody's going to want to
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see it.
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It doesn't fit, you must quit.
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You if it doesn't fit, you must quit. Yes, so
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that's it. Yeah, But I think the real hard part
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about boy girl porn is the athleticism involved in the
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positions that need to be done on camera. So girl girl,
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not always, but eighty percent of the time is a
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little more. It can be very passionate, but it's more romantic.
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Lots of the positions include one or more of you
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just laying on your back, you know, and you just
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maybe you're moving one leg instead of being in six
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inch stilettos doing
fifteen minutes of squats seven inches off
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the ground to ride it facing the camera with no
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eye contact with the dude.
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It's not quite you know what I mean?
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Yeah, so it's just like way more athletic. Right, So
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you're I'm tired, Like I went to the gym I could.
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Yeah, you got a workout partner who's just pushing you
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to the absolute limit.
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Yeah, but you're there.
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You have so many like endorphins and it feels so good.
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I feel like you push further than you would if
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it didn't feel good. But are you right after the
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scenes done, you're and then you're like or like if
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you have to go back and do softcore, You're like,
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I don't know, I don't know, man, I might be
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tapped out.
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That makes sense. Let me ask you this, Uh, do
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you orgasm on set as it happened?
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Like how every time?
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But yeah, how much enjoyment are you actually getting out
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of it? And what's like the scene where you can
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remember getting the most actual pleasure on your end? Really
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want to go every Emily Willis is just in here, Yes,
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exact same.
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Yeah, it's kind of insane. It's like pressing every pleasure
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button at the same it's kind of almost like using
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hatachi for this first time. It can be a little
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like sensory overwhelming, but for me it's fun for two reasons.
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The sensation it touches everything you want it to. And
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this might be because I'm a milf, so MILFs are almost
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always in complete control of the scene, and I'm naturally submissive,
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so that's fine, but it's not.
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It doesn't it doesn't clippy.
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All my switches. And if you're in complete control of
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the scene, the dialogue, the positions, and what everyone else
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is doing, you're a little bit in your head. So
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that takes away a little bit for me if I'm
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thinking too much. But if there's two dudes, they're just
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throwing you around like a fucking rag doll. I don't
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have to think. I don't have to choose a position.
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My only job is to get fucked and enjoy it.
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Wow, that's it.
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That Probably the average person who I just porn, if
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they see the DP, they're thinking that there's no way
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the girl likes it, and they're thinking and it is
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just for the movie, just for the dudes. They're just
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gonna assume that the girl's not enjoying it. That's interesting.
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I think the girl enjoys it ten times more than
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the dudes because and I pick my dudes based on
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their relationship, not my desire to fuck them, because it's
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so much more important that the dudes have chemistry. And
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I don't mean sexually. Wow, but it's like a dance
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and if the dudes don't know each other, it actually
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doesn't feel good. They're not vibing. They're like everyone's stroking
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at weird times. They're like fighting for the pussy no
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one wants to anchor. There's like weird masculine energy.
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And the things I've never yet.
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Yeah, and then I'm like, don't fight over me. Boys, know,
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it's kind of annoying.
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I don't know if I would, Yeah, doing a DP
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with somebody that you are not like close homies with
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would you're kind of weird. But then doing it with
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your best homie would be also weird.
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But also most like yours is very long.
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My best homies, Yeah, Like they're not like probably going
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to do DP with me anyway, So it's like you
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need like.
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A medium homie, like someone who's like about to be
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your best friend, but they're not there yet, so it's awkward.
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But you're like, man, you're cool, dude.
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Yeah, yeah, yours a little bit. It's all good.
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Yeah, two years from now you'll be best friends. You
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got to find a new one, but you.
495
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Know, yeah, so the vagina is fought over in the
496
00:21:16.599 --> 00:21:19.680
DP scenario, the anal is a
little bit less desirable.
497
00:21:20.279 --> 00:21:23.079
It probably depends on the girl. But for me, I
498
00:21:23.160 --> 00:21:25.680
like to be like really relaxed, and my butthole does
499
00:21:25.759 --> 00:21:28.799
open up pretty good. So depending on their cock size,
500
00:21:28.839 --> 00:21:31.599
I think my vagina would give more sensation than like
501
00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:33.960
after thirty minutes in my ass.
502
00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:35.880
Right, yeah, so much respect.
503
00:21:35.880 --> 00:21:37.759
But anal's probably a lot more work because you're still
504
00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:39.839
have to be in control and anal and then you're
505
00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:42.960
doing the same exact reverse cowgirl, but you're doing it
506
00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:43.720
in anal.
507
00:21:43.519 --> 00:21:45.359
Right, and a DP you don't have to be like
508
00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:46.079
anything anything.
509
00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:48.000
I feel like you're like in the air, not even
510
00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:50.920
touching the ground half the time. You're just getting fucked.
511
00:21:51.279 --> 00:21:52.079
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie.
512
00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:56.279
She's making it's really good.
513
00:21:58.160 --> 00:22:01.559
So besides the DPS, anything in particular that really stands
514
00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:03.759
out to you that you've getten a lot of pleasure
515
00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:05.599
from you. Ever do big gang bangs and shure I
516
00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:06.319
got I do?
517
00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:10.000
I like gang bangs. It's similar in that the only
518
00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:12.960
problem is with gang bangs, at least the ones that
519
00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:15.960
I've done. And you'll see this even in a lot
520
00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:18.880
of top performer gang bangs, is you'll have like one
521
00:22:19.039 --> 00:22:24.160
to three good male talent and then everybody else is
522
00:22:24.319 --> 00:22:26.759
honestly spending ninety percent of the time drinking off in
523
00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:28.960
the corner. And then you don't know is the viewer
524
00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:31.440
because when they roll in, they roll in strong, but
525
00:22:31.480 --> 00:22:34.720
then they're just jerking. It's like kind of distracting, right,
526
00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:37.519
And like in my head, I'm like, one, is he
527
00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:41.039
gonna get hard too? Like am I attractive like you?
528
00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:43.759
Or like, I don't know. It's it's a lot of
529
00:22:43.960 --> 00:22:46.839
penises to keep hard. It's a lot of plates to
530
00:22:46.920 --> 00:22:47.519
keep in the air.
531
00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:51.319
If I was going to produce a gang bang, it's like, yes,
532
00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:53.480
you do. You probably want to pay the full rate
533
00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:56.039
for a couple of top notch pros, and then you
534
00:22:56.119 --> 00:22:59.279
might want to get like a top notch prosing outside
535
00:22:59.279 --> 00:23:01.000
the home deep all or whatever, like yo, you need
536
00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:03.240
today's work. Let's go. We're gonna get tested, souped up
537
00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:04.759
by your nic little outfit. Let's go.
538
00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:09.799
It's almost like that, it's almost like that, wow, yeah,
539
00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:12.720
that's great. We're like, I've never met you after ten years.
540
00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:13.480
That's not good.
541
00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:15.839
I can't stand.
542
00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:17.559
Watching porn where I could see the guy in the
543
00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:19.079
gang bang in the corner jerking off.
544
00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:21.359
So I can't imagine the film. Not Sometimes sometimes I
545
00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:22.480
see it and I'm like, get him.
546
00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:25.400
Usually they're they're like the director will be like, so
547
00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:26.680
I can't.
548
00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:29.480
I remember I came upon a bukkaki porn when I
549
00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:33.480
was very young, and that was a real eye opener
550
00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:35.839
for me, because you know, I'm like fifteen watching a
551
00:23:35.880 --> 00:23:38.880
bukkagi porn and you start to realize, like, oh, I
552
00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:41.720
just watched fifty dudes jerk off on this chick. They
553
00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:45.079
all have different dick sizes, they all have different jerk
554
00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:48.480
off sides. Some of these dudes are having to go to town.
555
00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:51.920
It's like, really weird, and that's what time. It's how
556
00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:53.920
awkward this must actually be at times.
557
00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:58.279
Yeah, imagine this, imagine knowing that pretty much people aren't
558
00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:01.440
going to get paid until you come and like, okay.
559
00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:03.519
The first guy comes, You're like, no, I'm good. I'm good.
560
00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:07.119
The second guy comes, the third, fourth, Now twenty people
561
00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:08.759
are waiting for you to come, like how can you
562
00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:09.440
come like that?
563
00:24:09.640 --> 00:24:12.559
But I say, I don't doubt myself though. I feel
564
00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:14.640
like if if I'm there to be part of the
565
00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:16.519
I'm gonna just walk up and do it, like I
566
00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:17.519
don't really think, well, then.
567
00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:18.799
You'd be one of the first guys to come. You
568
00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:21.039
wouldn't be that guy in the corner going shit, I'm
569
00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:22.599
not kidding to get so.
570
00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:24.519
Nervous that I wouldn't be able to know. At least
571
00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:26.359
I've never been that. I can only think of a
572
00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:27.799
couple of times in
my life where I haven't been
573
00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:29.880
able to get hard. One it was the middle of
574
00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:33.599
the winter this girl's house. I swear the walls on
575
00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:35.680
the house were so thin that I could like feel
576
00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:38.480
the wound through the house. But that didn't work. And
577
00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:39.720
then there's been a couple of times where I was
578
00:24:39.759 --> 00:24:42.279
like depressed and I couldn't get hard. Absolutely, for the
579
00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:44.200
most part, I feel like, you know it, it's time
580
00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:46.359
to do it. It's like it's like banging and nail
581
00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:48.440
into the wall might not be in the mood, but
582
00:24:48.519 --> 00:24:49.039
I could do it.
583
00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:51.279
Yeah, You're like you're like, you're like you like her,
584
00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:52.279
you were good.
585
00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:54.400
Yeah, and it's just sharing off.
586
00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:59.160
It's like yeah, yeah, I think yeah. And then the
587
00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:02.480
worst is if they want you the girl to make
588
00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:04.880
all like however many of them come you know what
589
00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:06.960
I mean. If they're jerking off, you're right, you have control,
590
00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:10.319
but sometimes they want to see it happened with you,
591
00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:13.599
And that's really hard to time with men that you've
592
00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:16.160
never jerked off before, right, Like, I don't know you
593
00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:16.599
would you.
594
00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:16.920
Do you like?
595
00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:18.319
You want me to touch your balls, you want me
596
00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:19.880
to bite you, you want me to be soft, you want
597
00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:21.680
me to go fat. I don't know you, Like.
598
00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:24.039
I don't have time to ask so many people in
599
00:25:24.079 --> 00:25:25.519
the room, kings, But there's so many people, so I
600
00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:27.359
remember what everyone wants.
601
00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:29.680
And when you're watching like a buk scene, like there'll
602
00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:32.279
be like two dudes like actually jerking off, and then
603
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:38.240
you will watch one guy you why he can't miss
604
00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:41.119
this and it is so obvious and you're like, that's
605
00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:43.599
an amateur. You need to go back to do your homework.
606
00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:50.480
It's funny. Wow, it's a weird dynamic just like fall off. Yeah,
607
00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:52.559
and then like then you wonder because like, these people
608
00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:54.480
are also your friends. You're like, did I pay like
609
00:25:54.519 --> 00:25:56.279
way more attention to one of them than the other?
610
00:25:56.640 --> 00:25:59.039
Are they going to have her feelings? Maybe the guys
611
00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:00.880
don't care, but like I.
612
00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:03.680
I feel like you're letting us in on your personality.
613
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:06.200
You actually care about how these feel.
614
00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:08.920
Yeah, well, like if you're working with them for I mean,
615
00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:11.880
some people I've been working with for the past ten years. Wow,
616
00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:15.440
So you know you don't want to roll on and
617
00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:18.279
be like, oh, I work with shriek again today, I
618
00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:20.359
remember a few years ago, which may like who knows.
619
00:26:20.759 --> 00:26:22.400
I feel like I hear this from a lot of girls.
620
00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:24.839
They really do care about their on set relationships a
621
00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:28.079
lot because they want all the scenes going forward to
622
00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:29.759
work really well. You can't assume that you're not going
623
00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:31.440
to work with this person again unless you put them
624
00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:32.440
on your note of course.
625
00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:36.519
Yeah, but otherwise, if you both end up in the
626
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:39.200
like a list the group of working people, you're gonna
627
00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:43.680
work with them, especially men constantly. There aren't that many
628
00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:45.880
a list dudes. I feel like I work with the
629
00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:48.200
same twenty people just all.
630
00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:50.880
The time that like, oh, people think I'm banging a
631
00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:53.119
different dude every day. In reality, I'm just banging the
632
00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:55.519
same thirty guys over and over and over.
633
00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:59.680
Kind of. Yeah, new people come in and stuff, but yeah,
634
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:02.200
but the top like, if you're working for top companies,
635
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:06.640
they're not gambling on guys they don't know. So make same,
636
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:07.200
all same all.
637
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:10.000
So let me ask you this, uh, in terms of
638
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:14.480
your personal sexual life, how has porn sort of changed you?
639
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:16.400
Do you feel like you're getting a lot of the
640
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:19.880
sort of deviant, like crazy sexual energy that you were
641
00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:22.359
looking for in the swinger clubs. You get a lot
642
00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:24.680
of that from porn and that makes your normal day
643
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:27.319
to day sex life a little bit more normal or
644
00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:29.200
your relationship type at this point.
645
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:32.519
I actually I mix it up, of course, Like I
646
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:34.440
want to have the kinky sex, I want to have
647
00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:39.279
this in that, but now I really almost fetishize connected sex,
648
00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:43.799
really like quiet like sometimes to each other some like
649
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:46.920
And that was something that I didn't do that much before.
650
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:48.960
I wanted to be like, you know, just fucked and
651
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:51.279
tossed around in this person in that and now I
652
00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:54.440
feel like there's like a place for me for that
653
00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:57.640
type of sex too. Yeah, definitely, because I like it
654
00:27:57.720 --> 00:27:58.119
more rare.
655
00:27:58.200 --> 00:27:58.920
Now it's like.
656
00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:02.720
It's actually super special. Yeah, yeah and rare. So that
657
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:06.240
almost feels like the birthday, you know, or whatever it
658
00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:07.279
is for the vanilla.
659
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:10.079
But if you stop doing pork porn tomorrow then.
660
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:11.240
Then it would have to change.
661
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:13.720
Yeah, birthday anal is a thing. Like there's normal dudes
662
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:15.599
who like they only get anal on their birthday.
663
00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:18.000
Don't you think is that just in sitcoms or is that?
664
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:19.200
Like I feel like it's probably right.
665
00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:21.079
I haven't heard that before, but that I might have just.
666
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:22.759
Been hearing like, like you know sitcoms.
667
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:24.920
I was a regular guy who had a girlfriend that
668
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:27.599
didn't like anal then, and I like, because, yeah, I
669
00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:30.240
feel like that's kind of what was like demystified anal
670
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:32.759
to me. When I was young, I was so obsessed
671
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:34.559
with anal. But now I'm like, as a girling man,
672
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:36.119
I've done anal first.
673
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:38.000
Started hanging out. That's like that's you were like, you're
674
00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:38.640
down with anal.
675
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:40.440
I remember you were like really like excited.
676
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:42.680
Yeah, because that was before I was even doing like
677
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:45.559
a lot of snapchatter OnlyFans stuff, and you were you
678
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:47.400
were really interested in the fact that I was down
679
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:48.079
to do that I remember.
680
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:49.799
Oh yeah, but now now I've been a girlfriend for
681
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:51.640
four years who was down to do anal, it's kind
682
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:53.599
of having done it on camera so many times and
683
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:56.119
stuff it does. It doesn't have that thing that it
684
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:57.839
used to have in my head where it's like a.
685
00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:02.240
Print on camera. Though, Well for me, it's different on
686
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:06.400
camera because of the outrageous amounts of prep. So when
687
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:09.400
I haven't eaten, I have less energy. So I feel
688
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:12.279
like my at home annal is more fun yea, just
689
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:16.960
because I'm like, like I got glucose, I'm focused, I'm there, Yeah, a.
690
00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:17.720
Lot less pressure.
691
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:20.160
One thing I realized from posting this clip of you
692
00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:22.559
on my Twitter earlier is that you have a shitload
693
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:26.480
of fans. Like how do you think about that? Yeah,
694
00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:28.559
how do you think about that? Like do you take
695
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:31.480
a lot of consideration of what your fans want from
696
00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:34.279
you in terms of your content? And do you engage
697
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:35.839
with them a lot? Does it like make you feel
698
00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:37.599
really good when you post a new piece of content
699
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:40.079
and you get this crazy reaction from them?
700
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:41.319
Well two things.
701
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:41.680
So, Like.
702
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:46.960
I think it's because I'm forty two, right, So I
703
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:50.319
did not grow up with any kind of digital friends,
704
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:54.359
any kind of social media, MySpace, Facebook, any of that.
705
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:59.960
So I don't really feel like digital relationships are as real.
706
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.400
So I don't think I feel my fans as much
707
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:05.599
as some people feel their fans. They feel a little
708
00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:08.839
abstract to me, but I definitely consider what they want,
709
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:12.200
especially now that I'm marketing myself and selling my own stuff.
710
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:18.720
But the real people that made my brand wasn't me. Like,
711
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:21.720
you made your brand, right, you decided all your choices,
712
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:24.960
you made your brand. I came in before making your
713
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:28.200
own brand was relevant. So they made me a milf
714
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:31.400
and a stepmom and a cougar and all of those
715
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:35.559
sort of like older woman fantasies and built in a
716
00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:38.880
beautiful and amazing fan base for me. So when I
717
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:41.559
started building my own content, I'm like, all right, guys,
718
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:44.200
we're gonna do this, like they're already there kind of yeah.
719
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:48.039
And then so I just am still feeding into what
720
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:51.000
was built for me. Could I get a different fan
721
00:30:51.039 -->
00:30:54.720
base and start doing only footporn, probably, but like this
722
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:56.799
is the one that was kind of like prepackaged and
723
00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:58.400
like handed to me by the end.
724
00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:02.680
Strapped out of the stepmom milk roll and has anyone
725
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:03.079
I have.
726
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:06.319
A lot of variety in my content, but I definitely
727
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:10.160
keep the MILF tropes that I've been given as sort
728
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:13.480
of like like a week doesn't go by that on
729
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:16.559
like my OnlyFans or whatever platforms that I don't do
730
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:21.839
some kind of whether it's my you know, a neighborhood
731
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:24.960
you know kid, or you know, it's some sort of
732
00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:29.839
older woman fantasy is absolutely on a weekly basis on
733
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:30.640
my platforms.
734
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.480
Wow, Yeah, all your content is so scenario based.
735
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:35.200
I remember you when we first worked together, so like
736
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:36.160
like she was like.
737
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:38.279
So what does your audience think?
738
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:40.759
Adam is like do they know he's I.
739
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:43.000
Don't want to say the wrong thing, you know, and
740
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:46.759
let the cat out of the bag, you know.
741
00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:48.519
I just want to make sure what's his.
742
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:53.279
Name honestly to be like an anonymous horn star guy
743
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:55.160
who can just easily like fit into a lot of
744
00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:57.200
different roles, because for me, it's just so obvious.
745
00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:00.200
Yeah, you can never make uberver.
746
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:03.200
We bring a domino shirt, but it's like obviously not
747
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:04.920
a Domino's.
748
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:06.920
Guy, So it doesn't really work for me.
749
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:10.519
We should try making my step something that's really funny,
750
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:11.759
so fun.
751
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:16.119
Bigger than you, it seems like really like if you're
752
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:18.759
like the step daughter thing, which wow, sounds creepy when
753
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:21.079
you do it the other way, but that's like, I
754
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:23.720
don't know, that's just because you look like, if anything,
755
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:25.319
you are like much younger than me.
756
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:29.440
So I don't know, still milf so on POV. You
757
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:31.279
just see the dick though they don't know how well
758
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:31.799
that dick is.
759
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:34.680
But I got the tats, Yeah, they.
760
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:35.240
Know it was you.
761
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.160
It'd be a little bit of a suspension of disbelief.
762
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:40.119
Maybe I could brush my skin a different tone, not
763
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:46.319
going black big or black cube area, but like Jersey short,
764
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:49.839
make a little orange you know face, you got orange
765
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:51.599
face better, and it just looks like a jack lander.
766
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:56.480
I know a lot of the Japanese girls, they like
767
00:32:56.519 --> 00:32:58.799
them to look really pure, so they'll spend like hours
768
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:02.799
airbrushing their tattoos away before they film their scenes. A
769
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:06.759
lot of the top Japanese talent is heavily tattooed right
770
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:09.480
or like a Kusa adjacent, but they just make them
771
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:11.000
look clean slate.
772
00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:15.000
Wow, they want to feed into that like submissive I guess,
773
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:15.920
like pure things.
774
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:18.359
I guess they just legalized tattoos in Japan.
775
00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:19.279
Really, it's weird.
776
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:21.200
Yeah, so you can get them and I don't know.
777
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:22.400
To go to the spot out.
778
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:24.279
Yeah yeah, because we went to Japan and they wouldn't
779
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:24.960
let us in the spot.
780
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:27.519
Oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah, but.
781
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:29.839
Oh interesting, that's crazy.
782
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:31.960
Yeah, I bet they crossed the street when they see
783
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:33.119
all your tattoos, they're.
784
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:33.319
Like, damn.
785
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:37.480
The thing with Japan is everybody is so polite that yeah,
786
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:40.000
it's not even like like they definitely do think I'm
787
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:42.359
fucking weird as fuck, but they are so polite that
788
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:44.359
they won't even look at me and communicate the fact
789
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:44.880
that they're right.
790
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:47.200
If only they knew that all we did every day
791
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:49.359
there was play Pokemon going that we're not threatening at all.
792
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:51.799
He polite that they ain't even like you want to.
793
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.440
Get they're really good Pokemon in Japan, or they're different
794
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:55.319
Pokemon in Japan.
795
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:58.720
It's like the whole is a Pokemon theme part actually crazy.
796
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:00.920
But you know what I remember was like girls who
797
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:02.759
realized that we were lost and just came up to
798
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:04.680
us and asked if we need help. So you couldn't
799
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:08.559
have looked that threatening. Yeah,
we could tell we were lost,
800
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:10.360
and they just like were like, show us a map,
801
00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:12.559
and they just showed us to get a long ago.
802
00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:13.360
So I like that.
803
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:15.760
Yeah, Japan seems like probably one of the worst places
804
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:17.480
on earth if you were looking to like line up
805
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:18.519
a casual threesome.
806
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:20.039
You can't even talk to anybody.
807
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:22.039
We had one girl hitting us up the whole time
808
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:23.440
we were there, and one to hang out and then
809
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:24.519
like she was just weird.
810
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:26.480
I think you're probably thinking somewhere else only what happened
811
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:26.840
in Japan.
812
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:31.159
Maybe great threesome.
813
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:36.480
Yeah, fun random, it's been a long time. We'll get
814
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:36.800
there again.
815
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:38.519
We'll go to that swingers club. I really want to go.
816
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:42.480
Yeah. I think it's a good in between between the
817
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.280
tons of effort. Maybe I'm lazy, the tons of effort
818
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:47.239
it takes to pick someone up at a bar, especially
819
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:50.159
a woman, and then like you could hire someone. I
820
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.880
feel like it's a good in between. You know, it's
821
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:54.199
a little easier.
822
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:55.760
Than the bar spontan spontaneity.
823
00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:59.760
Yok, you've never hired him a hooker.
824
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:03.079
Wouldn't it be fun to just like actually the hooker
825
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:07.599
the sex worker economy. Yeah, like that'd be cool.
826
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:11.280
No hookers know how to hire one of my best friends.
827
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:13.159
I mean to tell you, I can't say who it
828
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:16.400
is because in case, in case, he finds out one
829
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:20.559
of my best friends boyfriends wanted a threesome so bad
830
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:24.880
and she's so shy. She lied and she hired a
831
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:27.360
hooker and had the meter her bar and did the
832
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:30.880
whole thing and he never found out why, and he
833
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:33.639
just thinks she's like a goddess now of like pick
834
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:34.239
up queen.
835
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:36.840
There times where I thought that you might have done
836
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:39.639
that where we like hooked up with a girl and
837
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:42.559
I kind of almost like felt like her energy was
838
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:46.079
like does she not necessarily like want to do this
839
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:48.280
and she's just doing it because she's sort of like
840
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:49.000
I paid to do.
841
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:54.440
Maybe I'm not story, it's not off by the way,
842
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:56.320
I'm not trust like.
843
00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:58.079
Maybe you had before me.
844
00:35:58.079 --> 00:35:59.480
Maybe you're thinking of somebody else.
845
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.719
Know I'm talking, But we don't do that. Then that's awesome.
846
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:04.519
No, I don't know.
847
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:08.840
But now now I think you should now a high
848
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:10.360
end in the industry.
849
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:11.960
So I feel like it would be weird, like I
850
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:14.079
forgot how to just go to the bar and pick
851
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:16.519
up girls like we used to do. Or girls would
852
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:18.159
get me be like hey, thank you and Adam are
853
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:19.880
cute and I'd be like, okay, hey let's hang out,
854
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:21.119
you know, right, But now.
855
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:23.519
It would be like like and then is it a
856
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:25.440
fan girl? Now there's a lot, but.
857
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:27.320
This is the thing. Any girl who hits us up
858
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:31.039
on that probably has the only fans, and if we're
859
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:33.079
going to fuck them, they need to get tested. Yeah.
860
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:36.400
So it's like, uh yo, like you're bad too, Like
861
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:38.800
you should get tested and do this fucking only fans
862
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:40.960
collab you you might as well monetize it as well.
863
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:44.199
A threesome with condoms is the hardest thing in the world.
864
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:45.800
No thanks, We've done it.
865
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:50.440
So hard, especially when the girl, like and I totally
866
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:52.880
get it, wants you to like change a condom every
867
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:54.519
time you go back and forth.
868
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:56.880
Oh my god, it's like you'd be like this too
869
00:36:56.920 --> 00:36:57.239
much work.
870
00:36:57.320 --> 00:36:59.679
You Like, you're like by the time you're done, you're
871
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:02.599
like swimming in a sea of condom. It's like the
872
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:07.800
whole bat condom would just pervasive right when you're changing
873
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:08.239
it like that.
874
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:11.719
Yeah, I feel like if the girls said anything like
875
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:14.199
be like listen, you go get tested. We'll meet up
876
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.199
again in a couple of days. Boom, you know, I'm
877
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:17.360
not sorry.
878
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:18.239
Yeah, keep fixing.
879
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:19.440
It's fine, you can just leave.
880
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:23.880
It falling off, No, I know, Yeah, that's I know,
881
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:25.880
I'm I'm pretty much like I'm so used to going
882
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:27.599
to get tested that I just want everyone to go
883
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:28.719
get it tested.
884
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:31.519
Now that I've done it. Though, I now that I've
885
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:33.719
done it, I need it. And now I look back
886
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:35.320
at how I was in my youth, and.
887
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:37.159
I was just the testing.
888
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:39.440
Right now I have to test.
889
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:44.079
Now, I'm like the most neurotic, but I was completely condoms.
890
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:47.360
Sure, but like Caroless, like careless never gonna happen.
891
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:49.519
You go to the club, less than one percent of
892
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:52.079
the women are a test, so it's like, you know,
893
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:53.280
what are the odds that they're going to be able
894
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:55.920
to show you a test? Like approximately zero couple you know.
895
00:37:56.079 --> 00:37:58.679
So that's that would be my advice to everybody. Everybody
896
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:02.000
should be getting tested like every seventy two hours. Even
897
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:02.719
if you don't do porn.
898
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:05.039
Well, it depends on how many people you're fucking, but yeah,
899
00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:05.880
you're doing.
900
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:07.679
Fucking random people every weekend.
901
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:10.159
Yeah, then you should be getting custom So speaking of
902
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:12.119
random people, you were saying that you like to be
903
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:12.599
the third.
904
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:14.760
I love to be the third. Can you see what
905
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:17.599
you saw? It kind of like bleshing, I guess last time?
906
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:20.159
So yeah, talk about last time how did we deliver
907
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:20.760
last time?
908
00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:24.639
So hot? And I was so nervous because like I
909
00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:26.960
had like kind of seen you on her social media,
910
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:29.360
but I had like a major crush on you. And
911
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:31.519
then I started seeing some of my friends working with you,
912
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:34.360
and I'm like, should probably never ask me, but it's fine.
913
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:37.199
I'll just I'll just keep watching her Instagram. And then
914
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:38.480
you asked me, and then I'm like.
915
00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:42.119
I wish my Instagram would tell me who's watching my story?
916
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:45.639
Like it's me, I can like me a lot. Yeah,
917
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:49.280
it's still met.
918
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:51.320
Blindfolded you and then I and then.
919
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:53.800
I surprised you with the with that big pig.
920
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:57.280
Wow, it's a shame we're just doing a podcast. It
921
00:38:57.400 --> 00:38:58.800
was so close we can hook up again.
922
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.360
Shame that we can't take these My look a nasty
923
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:02.639
Like I just got to say it.
924
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:06.079
So time is valuable and there's no chance on earth
925
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:07.360
that I'd be here if I didn't think there was
926
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:12.920
a chance that you guys would fuck me. I need
927
00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:15.000
There's no way to be in the room with this
928
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:18.880
one without fucking. Have I been a good girl? Have
929
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:20.760
I did? I do a good job on the podcast
930
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:22.159
and now I get dickn pussy.
931
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:23.159
The best job.
932
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:25.880
Okay i
933
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:28.679
M