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Welcome to the new sound of online radio. Welcome to
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That is so appropriate. All right, everybody, Hey, welcome. You
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never probe that live.
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I mean that music is for me, isn't it?
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Of course?
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Okay, because this weekend I ran, I walked the La
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City Marathon and look what I got. I finished. I
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am so proud of my thank you.
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Hering with that is amazing.
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I'm impressed with myself. I have to tell you, let
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me tell you who's in the studio joining me this week,
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and then I'm gonna talk a little bit about my
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marathon experience. We've got Nikki Haskell, thank you so much
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for being here. Social like investor, real estate entrepreneur. You've
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done just about everything, you know just about anyone in Hollywood,
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and you've got a lot of stories that you're gonna
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cover for us, right including a little bit about our
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President of the United States. With our question and we
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have my dear friend Jeanine Charrelle. Oh my god, how
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can I mess up your name? I've known Janine. We
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go back to our CNN das. Janine is gorgeous. I
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love her. She's brilliant. She's a blogger, she's a writer. Wow.
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And she's a producer for E Entertainment on Fashion Police.
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So that is amazing. So you're just we're gonna talk
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a little bit about trends and about fashion. You always
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look fashionably perfect, Janine. I mean you just walk out
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like this girl. No, she does, she always did, she still.
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Does as you do.
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Look at you. I mean, and I have on my
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necklace today too, my medal from the La City marathon.
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Oh yeah, the marathon.
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Well the marathon uh well, depending upon if you were
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the guy who won from Kenya, it was I think
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two hours plus for that guy and for me, I'm
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a walker and I did it in seven and a
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half hours. Really, I have a little hard Well, I'm
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going to tell you know what, I'm going to read
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a little blog. Can I do that? Because it's sort
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of people kept saying to me, and I mean everyone
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I know is like, why are you doing this? Deborah?
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Why did you even want to do a marathon? So
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I have a little teeny post, and I think that
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it would make some sense. So you guys, ready, yes, okay,
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all right, here we go. I've never done this, I've
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never read like my blog on the air. But for
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those of you who didn't read it, here you go. Okay.
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A few months ago, I was walking in my neighborhood
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and I asked some random people at a street corner
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if I could have a cup of water. They were
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handing them out to the runners passing by. What's this for?
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I said to them, Oh, they're training for the LA Marathon.
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Why don't you join us? I'm thinking to myself, or
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you kid, I can't even run to the street sign
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with my asthma. You can walk it, the man said,
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as though he was reading my mind. Twenty six point
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two miles. Hmm, okay, I'm in. Where do I sign up?
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And just like that, I became one of those people,
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a marathoner. I started training for with the LA road
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Runners walkers three once a week, and I never turned back.
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These are some of the most supportive, kind and inspiring
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people I've ever met. Some of them are older, some
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of them are younger. I was the slowest, but it
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didn't matter. I was in this thing now, and there
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was no turning back. I'm not sure what motivated me
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to do this. I remember walking that morning trying to
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escape that gut wrenching loneliness that I felt having lost
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my parents in recent years. They're always there and sometimes
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I just want to call them, but I can't, so
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I walk, and perhaps on that morning they heard me,
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and they reached out to hand me a cup of water,
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as if to say, they're right there walking with me.
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So I'm doing this marathon for them and for my boys,
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and to inspire anyone else out there that if you
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just keep going and you get out of your comfort
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zone that and never ever give up, something will happen.
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I'm not sure if I'll make it to the end
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or how far I'll get, but already I feel like
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I've crossed the finish lines with the lessons I've learned.
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And I really felt that way. And we all know, now,
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oh there's oh my god, God, you know you're gonna
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make me cry. Well, it's true. It was a really
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tough morning and I was walking in the street and
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these random people just handed me some water. And it's true,
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if you just keep going, don't you know, We've all
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been through really tough times in life. Some of us
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may look like we've never been through tough times, but
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we all have a right and we keep it in,
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we keep it out. And here I am a couple
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months later, and I earned this guy, and I'm really
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proud of my shop. And that's why I'm wearing it
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around my neck. You know, I had a couple of blisters.
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My girlfriend Mary's in studio. My girlfriend Mary, and and
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Karen and a few other friends. They all showed up
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to walk me to the end because I was practically
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falling apart.
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Start.
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You start a Dodger Stadium and from stadium, Oh yeah, girl.
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You start a Dodger stadium and you do the hills,
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and you know, I have to tell you, my group
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started really fast. I at fourteen and a half fourteen
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and a half minute mile, which is fast. So I
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swear to god, I barely got out of Dodger Stadium
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and I thought, oh my god, I have shin splints.
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I'm never gonna make it. But I just kept going
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and I kept going, and with each mile, I just
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kept going. And then it's all really beautiful because you're
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going through downtown. The sun's coming up to you. Any
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pictures you can show them if you want. The sun
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is coming up, and you know, you're passing Disney Hall
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and you're going up the hills and it's really beautiful
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Echo Lake, and you're passing Chinatown and a little Tokyo
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and you just keep going. And around mile eighteen, I
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was in Century City and I thought, ugh, I have
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to keep keep it up because I was on Santa
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Monica Boulevard, you know, and it's really wide and straight
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and sunny, and I thought, oh boy. But I just
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kept going. And then as I turned the curve to
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get on Sanda Sante. For all you people who don't
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know the local landscape, I'm describing it in Brentwood, and
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there were my friends and my family, my husband and
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my youngest son was there, and they they just started
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to walk me down to the end. So thank god,
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because like my girlfriend's like, do you want some gatorade?
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I'm like yes, I'm taking the cups, throwing them on
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the side. I'm not speaking. I'm like please, I can't talk,
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which for me, anyone who knows me, is rare, you know.
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I love to just talk and talk and talk. And
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I said, I can't say a word, just give me
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my drinks. So I'm actually really proud of myself, right,
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how often do we say that about ourselves?
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Were like, but it's empowering. Oh my god, it's and
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it's huge that you did it. And I think, especially
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for some people, as you get older, you get a
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little bit less adventurous and I, oh my god, did it?
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You know when you're younger, like yeah, oh god, for
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this team, I'll go up for that club, I'll be
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you know, I'll volunteer for this and that. But you know,
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I think you start to get a little bit uh sedentary.
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I mean, yeah, oh my god, I've gone the opposite.
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I'm exactly the opposite to hear that it's great.
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did that night. I was laying there and I needed
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a masseuse to come to the house because you're a
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little bit of pain.
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And I woke up on Monday and I said, you know,
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I think I want to do the New York Marathon now.
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And John, my husband, was like what. So we went
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online and we looked for it. It's November fifth, and
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I think I'm gonna do that one too. And today
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the information came out for LA and so I'm going
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to be one of those people some guy who was
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handing me water, Rudy, that's you. Now, I'm going to
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be somebody who does marathon.
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So I was in the high heel division of the marathon.
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Ye, you probably would be Wait, wait, can I just
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tell you one more thing before we go on about
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you guys? Do you know the history of the marathon?
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I found it kind of interesting, really okay, because around
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mile twenty five I said, why why do you have
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to keep going to twenty six point two? There's a reason.
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Do you know, ladies, anyone Mary my boored guy? Nope,
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I'll tell you no. Idea way back in the day,
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let me read this thing. Around four hundred and ninety BC,
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there was a messenger and he left the city of
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Athens in Greece, and he had to deliver a message
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to the people in Athens about the fact that they
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were winning against the Persians. So he, I guess ran
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or walked. I wasn't there. I don't know. But by
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the time he went twenty five miles, he reached Athens,
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he gave the message, he delivered it, and he dropped dead,
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and people thought, oh my gosh, this is so difficult,
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Let's make a race out of it. So then they
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decided to have a marathon in ancient Greece, as we
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all know, and it was twenty five miles. And then
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for many, many centuries, I guess, the marathon just went away.
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Came back in the eighteen hundreds and in nineteen oh
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eight the British royal family, I believe it was Queen Alexandra.
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She wanted to start it on her lawn at Windsor Castle,
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and she wanted to end it over at the Olympic Stadium,
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and in order to do that, it added one point
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two miles just so her kids could see it out
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of their nursery, so they of course, but of cools.
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So after that it stayed at ninety ninety So, oh
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my gosh, imagine it stayed at twenty six point two
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miles because of the Queen of England, so that her
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kids could see it out of the window. So they
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can't change it back to twenty five because that's when
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they started clocking it. You know, people's times, so they
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have to keep it. So a little bit of I
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really feel empowered. I said to my husband this morning,
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I said, so is this what it's like when people
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went in Oscar, because I really feel like I've done
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something very special. I'm just kind of walking around like this.
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So you should.
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Yeah's great?
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Yeah, so good.
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So you know what that's like. So I had to
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get that out of my system. It's a whole new thing.
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I sort of was limping in here today because I'm
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still in pain. Have you ever done anything like that?
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You guys?
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You know I went dancing in studio fifty four and
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three four hours at a time.
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For me, I can't wait to hear it.
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When I was in the high heel division, I ran
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from the lobby of the Beverly Hills Hotel to the pool,
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and you kept your heels on. I kept my heels on.
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Yeah, I don't know how people do that. I can
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only walk in sneakers. I'm a little flat footed, so
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how people even walk in heels?
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I don't even have sneakers.
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You don't, Yeah, well do you? Are you a heel person?
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I am such a heel person. Yes, I tell my everybody.
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I go to check the mail in my heels. I
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always wear heels.
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I love them.
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I feel much more comfortable too. And I see why
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I read a quote that you said.
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If I can't do it in high heels, I won't.
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I'm not interested, okay, And I laughed because I was
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reading quite a bit about you the past couple of days,
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and you would be hanging at Studio fifty four with
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all sorts of people, including a mild Marcos. So talk
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about high heels.
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She wasn't. She wasn't at I was in the Philippines
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with her.
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Oh so you're cat it's straight. Sorry, Oh you're in
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the Philippines or the office. Yes, didn't realize that one.
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Yeah, but you like to dance because you dance all night. Well,
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you know, the truth of the matter is that she
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had a big shoe collection, and I don't have any.
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I don't have respect for anybody that doesn't have at
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least three hundred pairs of shoes. But the shoe collection
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that she had was because of the fact that she
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started the shoe industry in the Philippines. So everyone gave
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her all these shoes. So there were rooms filled with shoes.
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Did she them away or she kept them?
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She kept She gave most of them away, but she
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kept them because they used to the people that manufacture
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the shoes came over and wanted to actually see that
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she had the shoes.
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Three hundred pairs, do you three hundred pairs?
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Oh, those were just her shoes. But those were just
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her shoes. Then there were rooms filled with shoes, but
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those were from the people that they started the manufacturing
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in the Philippines of shoes. Oh, you know, she did
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a lot of things, but the shoe was really not
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the least of her.
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My husband works on the radio, and we first moved
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out here. I don't know. He was doing some kind
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of stunt and he counted all the shoes in my
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closet and he went to over four hundred. I don't
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know how, because when I tell you I wear the
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same three or four pair of sneakers day and night
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ball gown, it doesn't matter.
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I just wear who were sneakers in a ball gown?
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Practically, I'm surprised I didn't get married in them. I mean,
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I just are not really very balanced, even in a
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low heel. I struggle. So he gave away like two
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hundred of them on the radio a long time ago.
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Could you imagine, And a friend of mine called shoe
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at just eight maybe a seven and a half or eight,
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no five, And are A friend of mine called and
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she said, do you know John's giving away your shoes
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on the radio? I said what, So half of my
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shoe collection went out the window. So it's true story.
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So anyway, Nikki Haskell, thank you so much for joining
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It is because well, okay, a little background with Janine. Okay,
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we did work together over at CNN. She was always
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much smarter and prettier and still ended up my friend.
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I love her. She's just amazing. But she was going
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to be coming on to talk about the Oscars and
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the Grammys because she works for Fashion Police and has
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all that cool inside stuff. But you were so busy
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you really couldn't. And then I think your kid was
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sick at one point. Yeah, I'll know how that goes.
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And you were kind enough to still, you know, designate
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some time and come on today. So we're going to
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talk a little bit about fashion trends and all about
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that and about how you got into this, and you
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were kind enough to introduce me to Nikki.
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She's so dorrible because she said I'm going she was.
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I said let's have lunch and she said, no, I'm
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going to do the show. So she said, I'll see
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if I can get you on the show too. So
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this is definitely this.
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Is actually perfect. You know, it's really it's like it's
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like a little girl. This is like a girl's lunch.
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No, it is minus the
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Is a girl's had a little bit of lunch.
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But this is how you started diet. It's a girl's
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lunch without food.
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Yum, that's actually per We've got our water, so this
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is all we need.
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I was in the diet, I used to think, wouldn't
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it be great if he just had a picture of
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lunch and you just put the picture down and you
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went out for lunch, and then you just had the
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picture of the food not eating.
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You know, in this town, we're grumpy after in this town.
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I love to lunch and I love to eat. I know,
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I go to lunch with people all the time, and
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no one's eating. They're picking out a little piece of salad,
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they grab a walnut off the salad, and.
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Then they're I'm gonna split lunch. I split everything.
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With your friends. Right, that's a smart idea because you
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still get what you want. You don't have to clean
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your plate, you have to share it. I eat very little.
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Are you like a big ear?
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No?
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I'm a big I'm a big splitter. But I do
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like to have my meals. I like to have something
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in the morning. I like to go to lunch like you.
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I love it.
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I'm a picker's and dinner also, I love to cook
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and I love to go out just as much.
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Last night when we were talking, you were getting ready,
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I was making dinner.
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I'm like, okay, dinner, I'll.
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Call you back. I'll be over. But yeah, so a
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little bit about you. I found fascinating that lots of
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things fascinating about you. But I love that you were
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married to the same guy twice jack right, And that
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when you moved to New York, you went to school
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and studied investing and became a stockbroker.
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I loved that in New York Institute of Finance, I
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was among the first five female stockbrokers in the world.
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Yeah, so you're just a real trailblazer. I love
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And you, I guess got interested in investing because after
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divorcing him the first time, you got an eighteen thousand
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dollars settlement, which I guess was okay for back then,
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and then you invested in and made a little small
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fortune with.
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Yeah, and that's that's so when he said to me,
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why didn't you get a job?
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A job?
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Why would I want to get a job. And then
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I thought, well, maybe I'll be a stockbroker. I made
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so much money in the market, never ended my mind.
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There weren't new women on Wall Street. A friend of
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mine owned a brokerage firm, and they gave me a job,
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and that was it.
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Where was that again in New York? Yeah?
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But what was the name of the Drexel Burnham?
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Yeah, Drexel Burnham. But you know, you've lived a charmed life.
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You've known so many people, even when your parents, when
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you lived in Chicago as a young kid, your parents
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knew all sorts of people.
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They took me in the nightclubs from the time I
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was six years old.
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Yeah, I mean what you have, Milton Burle, Jimmy Durante,
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I mean all the old guys, but the legendary guys, right.
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I was friendly with Milton until the day died. I
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loved Milton. It was so much fun.
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And you were just a little kid. We're talking about well, I.
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Was six, Yeah, when I started a common Miranda was
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the first nightclub act I ever saw. I took one
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look at her. I thought I'll take one of those. See.
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You know what I think. When I was reading about you,
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I thought that left an impression on her.
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Sure did.
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Back in Chicago, of course you were destined for a
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life like this. It really really had an impression. And
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then it makes sense. And then you moved here. You
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were around twelve or thirteen. Yeah, to Beverly Hills.
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Bever Hills.
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Dad hass towagh, mom got a job. You know what
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I liked about you because this would have happened to me.
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You were voted biggest flirt as a senior in Beverly
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Hills High.
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School, Right, biggest flirt and best line and best what
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best line?
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But WHOA, what's your line?
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It was like snappy patter. You know, I always had
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something to say about everything.
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Oh super quick? So since what's going on?
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It's like you sort of started young.
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Yes, you have to start young. It takes so long
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to accomplish anything if you don't start when you're born.
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You know what it's it's got to be part of
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your personality. It's either in there or it's not. Sounds
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like you were born with this.
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Yeah, you have to have both of us. We both
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have an a personality. The three of us A with
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a bullet.
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Okay, you want to hear something funny. When I was
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a little kid and I was on my school bus,
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I don't know. I guess I was in kindergarten going
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to school bus to the little Catholic school. I went
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to everybody's you know, talking in the back of the
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girls like what do you want to do? And the
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girl's like, oh, I want to be a police officer,
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I want to be a fireman, teacher. And I swear
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I remember this. I stood up on the see and
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I said, I'm going to be a movie star.
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That's what I said.
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It didn't happen, but I'm just saying, you know, when
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you feel something like that on the inside, it never
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really goes away.
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Never.
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I was a shy kid, though, so I don't know
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how that would have happened. But you know, I guess
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what did you want to be when you were a
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little kid?
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You know? I wanted to be a newscaster, real really did.
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And I hosted something when I was eleven years old.
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I was a host on a show called Kid's World,
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and it was a syndicated entertainment news or news show.
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For children, and I knew I wanted to do it,
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and I would come home from school and my brothers
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would be fighting me for the TV. You know, we're
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watching cartoons and I would say, no, we are not.
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We are watching Connie Chung, We're watching the news right now, Loudes,
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and I loved it.
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You won that argument too, didn't you. I know, but
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your dad was in the music business, so again you
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were exposed to this kind of stuff too. Jerry is
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your dad's name, right, Jerry Charell. Jerry Chiel still still music. Yeah,
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so I'm you two grew up sort of exposed to
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all kinds of interesting people, like what kind of folks
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would come walking through your door, you know, the music industry.
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I mean when I was younger, my father worked at
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Electro Asylum Records during a time when the whole California
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rock movement was just coming into place. So, oh my gosh,
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we had the Eagles and Queen and the cars, Linda Ronstat,
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Jackson Brown. It was just a really fun job for
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your dad to have.
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When you're do you know the calf Do you know
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the A's offs, the ones who represent oh my gosh, well,
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my middle kid and they're friends of ours, and my
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middle kid would always go with their son to the
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Eagles concerts and all that, and they be scootering backstage
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and causing all kinds of problems. You know, they would
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have those little chocolate fountains and they'd be thrown right,
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And I'm thinking, what a life you lead, kid? If
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you only knew, you know that you're just backstage scootering around.
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Then it's just like normal life to these people. Always,
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you're the greatest people. The Eagles are so amazing.
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And them shove them And I just heard that Don
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Henley's going to start to work again, and it's, you know,
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so heartbreaking about Glenn Fry because it'll
never be the same. Thankfully,
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I was able to see them one last time when
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they opened the Forum a couple of years.
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Ago, and.
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It was again, just such an amazing concert. I went
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with my dad, and I went with my dad to
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the last time they played at the Forum when I
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was thirteen, and so it was just a very special
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night to be there and to watch it and listen
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and they're singing all the songs that are just the
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soundtrack of my childhood.
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I have to say, though, to watch them perform acoustics,
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you know, even if you just tune it all out
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and just watch him perform is amazing. They're such incredible musicians, right.
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The talent is I get like goosebumps because when I
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think about their talent, it's massive. So how cool that
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you got to do that? See, so it lived in
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you too. I mean you know, now, me, I did
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not have that kind of upbringing. I grew up a
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middle class kid in New Jersey and it was usually
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the Italians arguing over some sort of food that was
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being prepared and I mean daily, weekly, nightly, and that
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was the extent of our exciting childhood. So but it
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was fun and it was always a little nutty and yeah,
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so that was my child.
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I had that too. I had that too.
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My family mom mom was Italian, right, yeah, I know
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you and I lost our moms very recently, so it's
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always a little tough. But but you've got that from her, right,
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the Italian absolutely.
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Yeah, which you're like being Jewish too, it's very similar.
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It's very all the same strength.
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Same strength. That's well yeah, strength, same strength. It comes
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from in here. There's sort of you know, women that.
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Just have a lot to say don't you dare mess
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with family.
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Don't f if my family, you understand. And so, yeah,
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so you're Jewish, you're what, You're Italian and right you're
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Italian Catholic. You went to Catholic schools.
485
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I Catholic schools my whole life.
486
00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:53.519
Yeah, I went to high school. It was as Jewish
487
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as you could get.
488
00:20:54.960 --> 00:20:57.160
Right. Well, you were, you know, big flirt. So you
489
00:20:57.160 --> 00:20:59.680
know you certainly made an impact. Okay, Nikki, back to you.
490
00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:03.440
So after high school, what did you do then?
491
00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:06.799
You know, I got out of high school. I was
492
00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:09.279
from the age everybody got married right away. So of
493
00:21:09.319 --> 00:21:11.519
course I was about twenty three years old and I
494
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got married to Jack. Okay, the first time.
495
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Jack, the first time.
496
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I love that.
497
00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:16.599
I love when people married the same guy twice.
498
00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:17.480
You know, don't do that.
499
00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:17.920
I don't.
500
00:21:17.960 --> 00:21:18.880
I don't recommend it.
501
00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:21.680
I've been married for so long with my husband. If
502
00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:23.720
I dumped him, I wouldn't marry him again. So there
503
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you go.
504
00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:28.160
No, I did joke. I didn't even want to marry
505
00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:30.200
mine the first time. I started, got talked into it.
506
00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:32.319
But then I was married for a year and a
507
00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:34.319
half and I got divorced and I was divorced for
508
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two years, and I remarried him for just under a year.
509
00:21:37.640 --> 00:21:39.680
But the only thing y because it got you to
510
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New York. I mean, but it did actually get me
511
00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:43.599
to New York. But I mean, it just was one
512
00:21:43.640 --> 00:21:46.400
of those sort of strange things that I remarried him again.
513
00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:48.440
But the truth of the matter is I would never
514
00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:50.319
have gotten to New York because I would have stayed
515
00:21:50.319 --> 00:21:52.960
in Beverly Hills and I would have done whatever. So
516
00:21:53.000 --> 00:21:56.519
it really fit. It ended up being the right move
517
00:21:56.559 --> 00:21:59.519
because I would never become a stockbroker, right.
518
00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:03.240
And also another thing, you were very friendly with the Trumps.
519
00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:06.160
I was very friendly with the Trumps, very friendly with Donald.
520
00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:09.319
I met Donald in the seventies when I was a stockbroker.
521
00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:12.559
I've just done nine documentaries on Donald. I have all
522
00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:16.160
the original footage from my
television show, The Nikki Hasko Show,
523
00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:19.200
which is on Amazon Prime. I was the first person
524
00:22:19.240 --> 00:22:22.000
that ever interviewed Donald, and.
525
00:22:22.039 --> 00:22:23.640
I love this. How old was he and he was
526
00:22:23.680 --> 00:22:25.799
good looking. I was an interview him in Atlantic City
527
00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:28.000
when he was going bankrupt. I actually got a sign
528
00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:31.079
to follow him around. He's quite an interesting character.
529
00:22:31.319 --> 00:22:33.680
I was right, you know, it's funny because when I
530
00:22:34.039 --> 00:22:36.079
when I first met Donald, I did. I was a
531
00:22:36.119 --> 00:22:40.000
stockbroker and I attempted to do a couple of business
532
00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:42.640
deals with him through a man that I was dating,
533
00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:45.440
and then he met Evanna, and I became best friends
534
00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:47.519
with Evanna, so it just sort of evolved.
535
00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:49.079
She was brilliant. She is brilliant.
536
00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:52.440
She's brilliant, unbelievable. You have no idea she built the
537
00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:54.960
Trump Tower. Of course, we went to Italy and she
538
00:22:55.079 --> 00:22:57.359
had a map that she rolled out. We went, She
539
00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:01.920
took bought this entire this entire mountain of pink marble,
540
00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:07.279
and every slat that she picked was marked on a diagram,
541
00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:09.480
So it wasn't like you just picked a lot of pieces.
542
00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:12.559
Every piece went with every piece on this diagram, with
543
00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:15.400
the lobby of the Trump Tower, which is six stories high.
544
00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:18.720
She worked very hard and she redid the Plaza Hotel
545
00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:21.759
in a week. She painted it, a carpeted and draped it,
546
00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:24.440
I believe it. And everything that didn't move, walk or
547
00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:25.680
talk she painted gold.
548
00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:29.039
And if I can say, moving forward a little bit,
549
00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:30.160
you were a Trump supporter.
550
00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:32.079
Yes, I went to the inauguration.
551
00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:34.200
I was there too. I was at the Liberty Ball
552
00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:36.240
and we were there as journalists. It was very interesting
553
00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:38.599
and we were invited by some people. I did not
554
00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:41.160
vote for him. My husband did vote for him, but
555
00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:43.119
we're both in the news business, so we were invited,
556
00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:46.039
you know, to join and participate. It was wonderful.
557
00:23:46.920 --> 00:23:48.559
I didn't go to the Liberty ball. I went to
558
00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:52.240
the Candlelight dinner, to the Pence dinner, and to the
559
00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:53.160
Liberty luncheon.
560
00:23:53.759 --> 00:23:56.240
Right while you were a supporter and a mate.
561
00:23:56.240 --> 00:23:58.319
Well, I actually went with my girlfriend who raised four
562
00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:00.480
and a half million dollars for Donald. And though I'm
563
00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:02.839
friendly with the family, I was there when all the
564
00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:04.960
children were born. I was there when all the children
565
00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:07.759
were married, so I'm, you know, like a part of
566
00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:08.319
the family.
567
00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:12.079
I've never heard much written about them that where people
568
00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:13.720
don't like them. I do know that the sons you
569
00:24:13.759 --> 00:24:16.599
get a lot of heat for, you know, with them, you.
570
00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:19.400
Know, yeah, But you want to know something really weird,
571
00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:22.559
because so when Donald and Ivana got divorced, we went
572
00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:24.480
on the boat every year, so I was always with
573
00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:27.559
the kids. So I actually grew up, grew up with
574
00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:31.519
the kids, and they always Donnie Senior used to read
575
00:24:31.559 --> 00:24:33.440
a book. It was this big where we were on
576
00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:37.000
the boat about fishing and camping and hunting. He was
577
00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:39.799
into it when he was a kid. So as a kid, yeah,
578
00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:41.640
so he go to reserves where you I mean, I
579
00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:44.440
don't condone it, but they actually go to a reserves
580
00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:47.359
which and where they have animals that are bred to shoot.
581
00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:49.240
Not that it makes it any better, do you know
582
00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:51.039
what I'm saying. I mean, I don't agree with it,
583
00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:53.240
but you know, hunting is a big sport.
584
00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:56.759
But what's interesting is you've been a lifelong democrat most
585
00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:58.920
of your life. I am a man that you know
586
00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:01.119
that you trusted, and you decided to support him and
587
00:25:01.119 --> 00:25:04.440
back him and your friends essentially in Hollywood sort of
588
00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:04.920
turned on you.
589
00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:06.799
Yes, did you see the article in the New York Times?
590
00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:07.079
I did.
591
00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:09.400
I How did that make you feel? I mean, especially
592
00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:11.599
what did somebody say about you on Facebook? You said
593
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:13.759
you woke up and you said, oh, what did you say?
594
00:25:13.799 --> 00:25:16.440
I'm trying to find my notes? But that he oh, look,
595
00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:18.519
you know he won, And then you you were what
596
00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:20.079
did
they say, I can't find my notes? Like, oh,
597
00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:21.359
I say, my own struggle.
598
00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:23.359
You know, listen, I've been taking heat all my life.
599
00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:26.400
I'm always controversy. I'm always in the middle of everything. Listen,
600
00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:27.880
I took a lot of heat for being friends with
601
00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:31.240
Madame Marcos. I mean big time during that when she went,
602
00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:32.880
you know, I mean, I've always.
603
00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:34.599
And I have I can imagine, but this is like
604
00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:36.839
right here for you know what.
605
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:40.720
I'm a person that you it's I'm not going to
606
00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:43.039
take any flak from anyone. I do what I want
607
00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:45.839
to do. Hopefully I do the best. I want this
608
00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:48.480
to be an amazing country. But if I vote for
609
00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:50.640
Donald Trump and you vote for Hillary Clinton, I'm not
610
00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:51.519
going to be mad at you.
611
00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:52.759
I think that's wrong.
612
00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:52.880
I do.
613
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:54.519
Do you mind if I ask who you voted for?
614
00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:56.279
Jeanine, I voted for Hillary Clinton.
615
00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:58.200
Ye, she's a good Clinton fan, right, And I voted
616
00:25:58.240 --> 00:25:58.599
for Hillary.
617
00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:00.799
I didn't really particularly care for Hurt that much, I
618
00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:02.839
will tell you, but I think she was hard working,
619
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:04.359
and to be honest, I wanted a woman in there,
620
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:07.400
so that vote for her. But I have to tell you,
621
00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:09.200
people who were at the march and people who voted
622
00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:12.039
for her are so angry at friends of mine and
623
00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:14.160
colleagues of mine who voted for Trump. And I said, now,
624
00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:16.400
that's not right. This is a democracy. You have the
625
00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:19.720
right to vote for who you want. Yeah, so that's wrong.
626
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:22.079
You know one of my best friends for forty years,
627
00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:23.079
Beverly Johnson.
628
00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:26.240
I know Beverly, Yeah, the model, And.
629
00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:28.119
She actually called me on the phone and called me
630
00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:30.319
a racist and said that she wasn't going to speak
631
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:32.279
to me anymore for voting for Donald Trump. I didn't
632
00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:34.720
even know that she even cared. I mean, it was like,
633
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:35.799
where did this come from?
634
00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:38.440
Well, I'm I'm I actually try and turn people around
635
00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:40.319
about that, and I say, you know, just try and
636
00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:42.160
look at the man and who he is. They say,
637
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:43.960
he's not really very respectful of women.
638
00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:45.079
Again, that's not true.
639
00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:47.279
I agree, because again I didn't vote for him, but
640
00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:50.039
the times that I covered him, he was extremely respectful.
641
00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:51.480
And the women that I knew who worked for him
642
00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:52.559
were so happy.
643
00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:54.519
And there were so many you know, when Donald started,
644
00:26:54.599 --> 00:26:57.640
I mean, what man gives his wife the responsibility of
645
00:26:57.680 --> 00:26:59.119
building out three hotels?
646
00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:00.480
You know, maybe he was trying to at River so
647
00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:01.039
he could be with.
648
00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:04.400
Me before Marlow. This was before that Marlow.
649
00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:06.720
I remember seeing Marla going down the escalator, I swear
650
00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:09.880
to God, in Atlantic City. It's funny how I just
651
00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:12.359
noticed her. She was in white shorts and little white shirt,
652
00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:14.960
and she was coming down the escalator because we were
653
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:17.400
covering him every day. You know, he had walked into
654
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:20.079
the usually the taj Mahal because that was his favorite one.
655
00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:23.119
And I remember they were divorced by that time. When
656
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:25.480
the taj Mahal opened, I was with Evanna.
657
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:25.920
And I don't remember.
658
00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:29.960
I remember vividly the taj Mahal opened and they were
659
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:33.400
already separated, and we were in Florida at the at
660
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:36.599
mar A Lago. Ivanna had a girlfriend's weekend that weekend
661
00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:37.359
that they opened.
662
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:40.480
Look it happens. I mean, he's you know, it's a
663
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:41.240
huge life.
664
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:44.000
You know, people were calling them and saying, this is
665
00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:46.799
long before that. You know, Donald's cheating on Havana. I
666
00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:49.000
was like, and I called, I said to it. I
667
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:50.400
called Donald and I told him.
668
00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:51.240
And what did he say?
669
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:52.839
Thank you? I appreciate you calling.
670
00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:55.039
That sounds like something he would say.
671
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:55.599
Good.
672
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:59.240
Oh my gosh. So have your friends calmed down? Oh
673
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:01.680
so there's still stop? Okay, then they're not friends. If
674
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:03.839
anyone's going to judge you
based on your politics, that's
675
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:04.319
just wrong.
676
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:06.640
So stupid, Janine.
677
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:07.759
Have you ever met him?
678
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:08.799
Donald Trump?
679
00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:09.440
Donald Trump?
680
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:10.799
I met him one time.
681
00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:14.759
And okay, but allow me, you've met another president and
682
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:18.240
you know and now may I say your boyfriend that
683
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:21.240
you've dated for quite some time is Steve Tyrrell, who's
684
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:25.839
the greatest. I think, so amazing. Okay, what I will
685
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:28.839
say is what a life you lead? I mean, where
686
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:30.880
were you? Do we have a picture of Janine meeting
687
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:34.359
the president Bill Clinton and his wife Hillary? Do we
688
00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:35.440
have that? So?
689
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:37.759
You know I went to the when to Bill Clinton's inauguration.
690
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:39.119
I was a big Clinton fan.
691
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:39.960
See.
692
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:43.200
But to me that, I have to tell you, that's America.
693
00:28:43.519 --> 00:28:46.680
You went to his inauguration, you supported Trump. It's your right,
694
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:48.640
and that's why it's amazing to be able to live
695
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:50.920
here and have the right to do that and just
696
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:54.400
not judging. Anyone is judging. Then I don't want to
697
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:56.359
be friendly with them because they're going to judge anything
698
00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:58.279
I do if I do something wrong. Right, Well, tell
699
00:28:58.319 --> 00:28:59.119
me about meeting the Clinton.
700
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:01.319
I have to say, this was this was pretty fantastic,
701
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:03.240
you know, Mike, Oh, look at my friend Steve.
702
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:04.119
Oh, there we are.
703
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:07.559
He performs at the Cafe Carlisle every year. He's been
704
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:09.400
doing it since two thousand and five. He's there from
705
00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:12.039
Thanksgiving to this to New Year's Eve. So we get
706
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:14.279
a call saying that, oh, it's fantastic.
707
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:14.559
God.
708
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:16.519
So we get a call saying that Chelsea's coming in.
709
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:19.680
I thought, great, Chelsea. I'd love to meet Chelsea.
710
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:20.720
Just wait for the friend.
711
00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:24.000
Then twenty minutes before showtime, there comes a text. Bill
712
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:27.480
and Hillary walked in with her, and it was just okay, wait,
713
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.000
so nobody had heard from Hillary in such a long time.
714
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:30.839
What do you do?
715
00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:31.079
Like?
716
00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:32.799
Do you are you? The one who gets up? Is
717
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:34.799
Steve on stage? Like what do you do? Like?
718
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:36.680
Well, we were a little bit scattered. I had my
719
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:38.799
college roommate in town and I'm at dinner with her
720
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:41.039
and her husband, and I got the text, and all
721
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:43.920
of a sudden, it was check, please I got her, get.
722
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:46.480
Up back to the girlfriend, pay for this for this
723
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:46.920
thing I got.
724
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:49.279
It was a little frendzied, But I have to say
725
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:51.880
Steve cool as a cucumber anyway, course, get you the show.
726
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:54.240
Everything is so fantastic, and he has a little bit
727
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:56.640
of history with them as well, which was so lovely.
728
00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:59.880
But what was wonderful is to see her with Bi
729
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:02.359
Bill in a relaxed setting. This was one of the
730
00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:05.440
first outings that they had since the election, and you know,
731
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:07.559
she hadn't been heard from in about a month. And
732
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:10.720
she was there and she was relaxed, and she's in
733
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:13.920
her bright red suit and they were together and they
734
00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:15.960
were normal and that you know, they were sitting side
735
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:18.160
by side and having dinner and you could see him saying,
736
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:19.640
you know, do you want to taste the chicken. Sure,
737
00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:22.519
I'll taste the chicken, you know. And then did Chelsea
738
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:25.519
come to with her husband Mark, who was lovely.
739
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:26.359
Yeah, they're great.
740
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.000
Oh, what a great couple. So, you know, the beginning,
741
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:31.759
I was looking at them and I just couldn't help
742
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.880
but sit there and watch her, and tears were streaming
743
00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:36.880
because I just thought of all she's been through, not
744
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:40.599
during this just during this election, but her life, her
745
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:44.119
life just serving other people and and.
746
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.039
Of your politics. She was fabulous.
747
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:50.839
This is what's interesting when you talk about people in
748
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:53.440
their politics, and you know, you put it aside and
749
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:55.519
look at the person. At the end of the night,
750
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:58.640
Steve closes with That's Life, which is a very famous
751
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:01.000
Sinatra song. That's nice.
752
00:31:02.240 -->
00:31:05.200
Oh please, I can run a marathon, but I cannot
753
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:06.559
sing Okay, keep going.
754
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:08.599
So he's done this song every night. It wasn't anything
755
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:11.119
that he picked just because she was there, and he said,
756
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:13.319
I'm going to dedicate this to you, Hillary, but not
757
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:15.519
even thinking of the lyrics. And it comes to a
758
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:17.680
point where they say, you know, when I find myself
759
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:20.440
flat on my face and he's pointing at her, I
760
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:25.319
picked myself up. Then get back in the race. And everybody,
761
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:26.279
I don't care who you voted.
762
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:28.960
He was looking at Oh, he's.
763
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:33.960
Up on stage pointing Hillary. Everyone in that room stood up, applauded.
764
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:37.000
It was like time stopped. It was the most powerful moment.
765
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:40.599
Bill took her arm, raised it in the air, and
766
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:42.480
I mean it was just one of those moments. There
767
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:46.559
were chills all over and and it was great because
768
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:49.480
people got it. You know, they might not have voted
769
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:52.799
for her, but they got it, and they knew that
770
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:55.920
they were in the presence of somebody who really fought
771
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:59.039
a tough campaign and wanted to start our country.
772
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:01.880
What about after when he was finished with the performance,
773
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:04.160
did you sit down and eat with them? Did you
774
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:12.160
invite them back stages? Wells and we got.
775
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:12.319
But I got a moment to talk to both of them.
776
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:15.480
And when I was speaking with her. She held my hand,
777
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:17.839
looked at me. I'm telling you, it was like I
778
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:19.799
was the only person in the room. There there were
779
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:23.599
two people in the room, and you know, I just
780
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:26.240
it was wonderful to have an opportunity to tell her,
781
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:30.359
you know, as a woman, woman, as a democrat, as
782
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:34.039
an American, how much it meant to me, you know,
783
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:36.640
and to my daughter and to my son, you know,
784
00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:39.640
and to to all of us what she what she did,
785
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:42.039
what she stood for, what she fought for. So it
786
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:43.759
was it was very special. And then they were just
787
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:46.880
the most gracious people. They were so fantastic.
788
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:50.279
I wonder if it's brought them close together, because they've
789
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:54.720
obviously had their time in life, and I mean they're
790
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:57.759
they're in a relationship. Their relationship might not be like
791
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:00.400
some others, but who's to say, you know, right, And
792
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:03.400
does it seem like they were really they were absolutely.
793
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:05.720
Know that they always have I think so too.
794
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:07.839
I always think they have an arrangement. I mean, they
795
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:08.559
just I don't.
796
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:10.559
Think they have an arrangement. I think they have a
797
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:13.799
real marriage. I think, well, you know, I don't. I
798
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:15.880
hate when people say, well, you know, she does here
799
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:18.200
a thing. I think they have a real marriage. They
800
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:20.559
couldn't have stayed together all this time if they didn't.
801
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:23.160
You know, I was very close to the Clintons when
802
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:26.359
they went in Bill's last even when they first started,
803
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:29.039
I became friendly with Hillary and I always thought she
804
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:31.480
was one of the most amazing women. And Bill could
805
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:32.559
knock your socks off.
806
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:33.960
I mean, I've met him so.
807
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:36.319
Handsome and so compelling.
808
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:38.160
But you look at him in his eyes and you think,
809
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:40.519
what are you trying to say to me, because.
810
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:41.480
I mean he's so divine.
811
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:46.039
Oh yeah, I am right here to tell me, because
812
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:47.319
that's true. He really can.
813
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:51.000
He looks right at you and there's no like, you know,
814
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:54.759
like this he is. So he's fabulous. I think they
815
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:55.559
bought us.
816
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:57.519
But yes, to answer your question, yes, I do think
817
00:33:57.559 --> 00:33:59.759
they have a very close relationship. And it was she
818
00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:01.599
was It's great to see them because the lights were
819
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:04.279
down and you know, people were watching Steve, but I
820
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:06.200
was watching them, and they're side by side.
821
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:08.199
Steve, I've seen you a million times and looking at
822
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:10.199
the president just carry on.
823
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:14.000
But he's you know, he's touching your shoulder. They're holding
824
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.400
hands during some of the songs. He's got his arm
825
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:19.239
around her. So it was it was sweet to see
826
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:20.000
that
side.
827
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:22.719
Yeah, and it's and it had just been such a
828
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:26.360
difficult time. We all know, just the day in the election,
829
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:29.000
remember Trump stood up and he said, well, we'll see
830
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:30.239
what happens. I don't even think you knew it was
831
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:32.880
gonna win anyway. And then you know, she's apparently in
832
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:36.400
a celebratory mood, and then everything turned and she had
833
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:39.280
been through a lot emotionally. It was elgin. It was
834
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:41.360
a lot. I'm so glad you had that experience. But
835
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:43.719
if I may, you had another one that really blew
836
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:46.360
my socks off. I got to tell you, Prince Charles,
837
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:48.960
so do we have that picture? I mean, girl, if
838
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:50.079
you don't live the life.
839
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:51.719
Come on, that was pretty fantastic.
840
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:53.960
Get that. Okay, that's one of my favorite dresses. We
841
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:55.880
didn't even get to the fashion police stuff yet. Oh
842
00:34:55.880 --> 00:34:58.599
my god, I love that dress. When you posted that
843
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:01.599
on Facebook, I thought, now I'm pissed off because that
844
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:03.119
is just like too much fun.
845
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:06.280
It was unbelievable and it just it came out of
846
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:09.400
the blue. It turns out that Prince Charles is a
847
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.760
fan of Steve's music. He loves gravelly voices. I'm like,
848
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:16.840
that is perfect, you know, sure we'll go, and and
849
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.199
he invited, and Steve jokes around, he goes, you know,
850
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:21.360
I don't know. In the beginning, I kind of felt
851
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:25.559
like maybe he thought he was calling Stephen Tyler. Where
852
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:26.480
the hell Arrowsmith?
853
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:29.519
What happened? He's looking over to his son's going. But
854
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:31.000
I don't. I think we got the wrong Steve.
855
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:34.679
But no, it was it was him, and he was fantastic.
856
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.199
And of course, you know I researched on the plane
857
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:39.039
over there. I said, you know, we have to come
858
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:42.280
up with a good song list because you know, you
859
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:44.920
don't want to sing the song he danced with to Diana.
860
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:48.280
Could you imagine? It's like, right, right, an idiot? Don't
861
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:49.880
you do your research? Okay, so that was smart. So
862
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:51.639
who did you meet with Prince Charles?
863
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:54.320
We were trying to come up with songs for him
864
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:56.199
to do, and and you know, I told him, under
865
00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:59.719
no circumstances should you do be witch bothered and bewildered,
866
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:01.960
because there's a line in there that says, you know,
867
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:07.199
horizontally speaking, she's at her very best and thank god
868
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:09.039
it could be over sext again. I'm like, you don't
869
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:11.440
do that. These people are prim and proper. This is
870
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:12.480
not the audience for that.
871
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.400
But does he not have the right girlfriends? Oh, Steve
872
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:18.840
is a lucky guy. I love that you did this, Janine.
873
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:23.199
So well, that's that's our background, our journalistic background. So
874
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:25.840
but it was very funny because when we met the Prince,
875
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:29.800
we were nervous and and like you said, I'd been
876
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:34.480
in this industry for a very long time. Entertainment, news, right, everybody, whatever,
877
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.239
but it's not the same when it's royalty. It's really
878
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:39.199
not the same. And we were both nervous. Steve's met
879
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:40.760
everybody in the world, he's worked with them, but he
880
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:45.119
was nervous too, so you know, he came and talked
881
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:47.599
to us. He was speaking with Steve where he performed.
882
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:49.639
Where was the portrait gallery?
883
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:56.320
Oh yeah, excuse me, where was the vital side? It
884
00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:59.599
was in the Bookingham Palace. Let's crack it up a
885
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:01.239
little bit, please for those of us who have not
886
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:03.400
been insil the Bookingham Palace. And I've only been on
887
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:06.639
the outside with the changing of the guards. Thank you. Yeah,
888
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:08.599
you know, my husband can't get me on the inside,
889
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:09.119
so I'm.
890
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:11.599
Like, you know, there's still time, there's still time. So
891
00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:12.719
your center.
892
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.639
Threw into Wokingham Palace and we go in and we.
893
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:18.239
Go upstairs to the balcony for the cocktail party, which
894
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.440
is where everybody waves. You know, you've seen it on
895
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:24.119
a hundred times. And we were introduced to the Prince
896
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:26.280
for the first time there and so he spoke with
897
00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:28.199
Steve and then he came over to me and I said,
898
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:29.639
it's such a pleasure to meet you, and.
899
00:37:29.880
--> 00:37:33.000
Allowed to shake his hand. Yes, yes, and it was
900
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:33.679
Camilla there.
901
00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:37.039
Camilla was there, okay, And he asked what I did,
902
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.719
and I said, well, I am a TV producer in
903
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:41.639
the United States and I work on a show called
904
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:43.079
The Fashion Police with Joan Rivers.
905
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:44.920
I'm sure he knows it, right is probably his wife
906
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:45.920
probably watches it at night.
907
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:47.840
Well he knew the show, yes, but he didn't know
908
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:50.480
that's what I did. So he looks at me and
909
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:56.039
he said, Joan Rivers, why she's so bloody naughty? And
910
00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:59.480
oh I love those It was probably three seconds, but
911
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:04.920
it seemed like twenty minutes. Yeah, and he goes, we
912
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:08.239
love Joan riversh She comes to the castle all the
913
00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:11.559
time and ts out that she was invited to their wedding.
914
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:12.599
She would always go to.
915
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:19.000
Which wedding Camilla Camilla, So Joan was invited to the wedding.
916
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:21.400
Went to the wedding. They were very good friends. They
917
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:24.559
would go on cruises together, they would paint together, and
918
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:26.760
so it just turned out to be this very lovely thing.
919
00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:29.119
So every picture you see were laughing our asses off.
920
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:33.440
He was talking about how naughty she was. There's my Jony.
921
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:37.800
I miss her me too, I do too. She was
922
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:41.480
really what an experience to be able to work with
923
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:43.559
a veteran A legend.
924
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:46.960
I can't imagine. And I still get choked up thinking
925
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:51.119
about how she passed away, Because when it's a surprise, yep,
926
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:54.639
and when it's a surprise, it's worse. It's harder. It is,
927
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:57.280
it's harder my mom passed away. It was it was
928
00:38:57.320 --> 00:38:59.119
a shock. It was a surprise. She wasn't sick. We
929
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:01.920
didn't expect it. But Joan Rivers same thing. She went
930
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:05.239
in for something routine, passed away unexpectedly. The whole world
931
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:05.880
knew about it.
932
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:06.480
It's scary.
933
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:07.679
It's very scary.
934
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:09.360
It is scary. I mean we were supposed to have
935
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:11.480
a conference call at four point thirty that afternoon. Oh
936
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:14.639
so it wasn't she wasn't expecting for this
to be
937
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:16.800
a very complicated save to.
938
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:19.599
Tell you, I am sitting here with like royalty entertainment,
939
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:21.559
royalty between the two of you, the people you've met.
940
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:24.079
I have to say something though, as journalists, don't you
941
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:26.840
agree on a daily basis. People who aren't in the
942
00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:29.719
business almost find it very difficult to imagine the things
943
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.679
that you do on a daily basis. Right, one minute,
944
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:35.480
you're with Clinton getting his haircut on the tarmac, next minute,
945
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:38.559
you're covering something in downtown LA at a shooting. The
946
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:40.920
next you know, just at the next minute, you're sitting
947
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:43.079
with John travolt I remember doing that at CNN, you know,
948
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:46.360
sitting his home, and I remember I said, look, you're Italian.
949
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:48.119
Would you just say something in the camera to Tony
950
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:50.519
and Edith They'll be thrilled. So, you know, stuff like that,
951
00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:52.360
And at the end of your week, you look at
952
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:55.039
what you did and you said, wow, you know, it's
953
00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:58.000
just it's an honor really to be able to meet,
954
00:39:58.239 --> 00:39:58.719
even if.
955
00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:01.119
It's just fleeting all the people that it's fabulous.
956
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:01.760
It really is.
957
00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:04.679
It really is, and I'm very grateful, believe me, for
958
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:05.800
all the experience.
959
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:08.760
It's an amazing thing and every day when I because
960
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:11.440
I always get every morning, I get up, get dressed,
961
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:13.199
put on all my makeup because I never know who
962
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:14.440
I'm going to run into that day.
963
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:17.239
Oh I love that you live by Do you live
964
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:19.159
that way? I can buy walk.
965
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:21.119
Out in my sweats and look, I wouldn't even be
966
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:23.599
caught dead. I wouldn't go to the to throw my
967
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:26.840
garbage out because I run into somebody. It never But
968
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:27.599
you're gorgeous.
969
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:28.800
You don't need it, but I get it. That's part
970
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:30.239
of who you are. I tell you my sisters like that.
971
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:33.800
She's very proper and she always looks lovely. And I
972
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:35.920
was always the frumpy sister. You know, I would just
973
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:39.639
sort of show up, thank you you are, you're beautiful,
974
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:41.360
You're and I'm a marathon or let's not.
975
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:44.360
Around.
976
00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:46.679
But being the frumpy sister, I will tell you I
977
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:50.280
very rarely. I'm just kind of kidding. But she is
978
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:52.159
My sister's the same way, and I actually admire her
979
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:54.559
because that's just part of who she is. She wants
980
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:57.119
to sort of give, you know, her best face forward.
981
00:40:57.239 --> 00:40:58.400
You never know who you're going to see.
982
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:03.360
Are you like that too? Like you are always she does.
983
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:04.880
I'm telling you, well, thank you.
984
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:08.039
Every day, Like yesterday, I ran into so many famous
985
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:09.039
people it was just fair.
986
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:10.360
Where did you go to run into?
987
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:13.639
Last night? I went to a Neil Sedaka's house. He
988
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:16.119
had a performance, which was sort of fun. He's a
989
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:17.239
very close friend of mine.
990
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:18.280
I gotta hang with you more.
991
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:21.199
We're friends now, right, Yeah, we're new best friends.
992
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:24.079
Thank you. Okay, I'm gonna I've recorded this, okay.
993
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:27.760
And then uh, then I went to the Tower Bar
994
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:28.840
for dinner last night.
995
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:35.280
You must be a regular at Craig's, right, yes, Oh
996
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:37.400
that's right. You go to Craigs too all the time,
997
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:39.599
all the time. Oh wait a minute. When I did
998
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:41.400
a little pre interview with you, where were you at
999
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:42.199
the Soho House?
1000
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:42.599
Of course?
1001
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:46.519
Your lunch? So this is just how you live, right, Yeah,
1002
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:49.639
So let me ask you a couple of little things
1003
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:51.800
because we actually don't even have a ton of time,
1004
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:55.079
but briefly, but we're going to talk very quickly. Fashions, trends.
1005
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:58.280
You also you covered the Oscars, the Grammys, all that stuff.
1006
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:02.159
This year. You you go to what's it called Fashion
1007
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:04.079
Week in New York. This year you didn't go, but
1008
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:05.920
it was very interesting. We had a lot happening in
1009
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:10.119
La right. Oh, absolutely, yeah, so fashion trap real quick fashion.
1010
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:12.519
Well, there's a big movement going on in the fashion
1011
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:15.079
industry where people are showing in Los Angeles. I love
1012
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:18.239
they never used to before, but Tommy Hill figure came
1013
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:21.000
out here with a huge to do. He took over
1014
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:24.280
Venice Beach. He's He's it was really cool new line, yeah,
1015
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:26.920
and is trending much younger now. He's he's teamed up
1016
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:29.480
with Gigi Hadid, which is an act of brilliance.
1017
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:31.480
I'm telling you, that was a brilliant day.
1018
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:34.239
So smart, so smart. He's got all of her and
1019
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:38.320
her buddies modeling for him right now and designing and
1020
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:41.119
so that's fantastic. And there are other other designers who
1021
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:43.159
are doing that as well. Rebecca Minkoff was another one.
1022
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:47.360
She was at place and had the durable fashions that
1023
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:48.199
she was showing too.
1024
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:49.119
Were there for that?
1025
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:49.639
That was?
1026
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:51.559
That was a great evening. Yeah, great day.
1027
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:53.400
It was a great day, and we did cover it.
1028
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:56.000
I didn't personally go, but but we had a lot
1029
00:42:56.039 --> 00:42:57.760
of coverage and she was a guest on our Fashion
1030
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:01.639
Week show, on our Fashion Week episode for Fashion Police.
1031
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:04.400
So do you pick what's in and what's not and
1032
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:06.480
what looks good and what doesn't because you know, well,
1033
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:08.159
Joan was the best at that, let's face it, Oh
1034
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:10.320
my god. She would say, just tell it like it is.
1035
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:11.920
And boy do I miss her when I see some
1036
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:13.679
of the things that are out now, Like the sheer
1037
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:17.119
sheer is a huge trend right now that I cannot
1038
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:20.639
wrap my head around. It's just like with everything is shears,
1039
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:24.639
your share with strategically placed applicats and beating that everything
1040
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:27.960
else is you know, not even left up pace imagination.
1041
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:29.880
And I don't care how good your body is.
1042
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:33.639
It's never good enough, thank you, really never.
1043
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:35.719
Didn't you notice that the oscars it almost seemed like
1044
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:37.320
this year sleeves.
1045
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:39.960
And a lot of people did sleeves in high next high.
1046
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:45.960
But they were sheer, sheer, long sleeve, but they were sheer.
1047
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:46.360
Right?
1048
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:48.079
Do you think a lot of these trends are because
1049
00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:50.400
of the Kardashians. They show up with something sheer, you know,
1050
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:52.199
walking out of a hotel in Paris. I don't think
1051
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:54.159
next thing, you know, everybody else is showing up.
1052
00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:56.599
Yeah I don't. I don't know that the Kardashians are
1053
00:43:56.639 --> 00:43:59.920
setting the way for high fashion at all.
1054
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:04.800
I mean I think that street streetwear girl, perhaps downtown Tashi.
1055
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:09.199
Yeah, look at Gucci. Gucci looks like forever twenty one
1056
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:15.639
on acid. Explain that everything they've got appl cads and
1057
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:20.559
stars and things, and I mean the plaids and stripes
1058
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:22.480
and like unwearable clothes.
1059
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:24.679
All right, what do you do if you're not twenty one?
1060
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:28.159
And maybe you're thirty one and you still are forty one?
1061
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:33.639
About seventy five, okay, which I find hard to believe.
1062
00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:35.440
So I need to see your bird certificate. You're lying,
1063
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:36.880
you're making yourself older than you really are.
1064
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:38.239
No, no, never.
1065
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:43.480
But it's it's hard to find clothes because everything is made.
1066
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:46.880
It's either very low cut and slaveless. I am past
1067
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:48.400
the sleeveless stage of my life.
1068
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:50.360
Well, miss fashioned police, What do you do if that's
1069
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:52.159
the case, You know, when everything's sheer and you've got
1070
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:53.159
little things covering your nip.
1071
00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:55.599
I think you say forget it. I don't care if
1072
00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:57.559
that's the style. I'm gonna wear what looks good on me,
1073
00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:01.320
and you can't. You can't go buy what's in. I
1074
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:04.039
think you go by what is classic, what suits your body,
1075
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:05.760
what is the most flattering on you? And what you
1076
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:10.320
feel fantastic in because ultimately, the way you hold yourself,
1077
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:12.760
the way you smile, the way you carry yourself, that's
1078
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:17.599
what's gonna make your you know, just pop. It doesn't
1079
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:20.400
matter if you're wearing the latest from Valentino. Who cares.
1080
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:24.920
And the problem is is that these young stars don't
1081
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:27.840
own any clothes. Every They only have people to put
1082
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:29.599
clothes on them. So they stand there they look like
1083
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:33.559
they're completely uncomfortable in these
dresses. I own every dress
1084
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:36.000
that I ever shot my television show in. I own
1085
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:39.000
the dresses, and she has amazing I.
1086
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:41.360
Want to come look at you.
1087
00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:45.280
I'm saying, these girls don't own clothes. If you don't
1088
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:48.400
own clothes and you don't pick out clothes, you never
1089
00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:50.920
can wear them. You always look like you're walking around
1090
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:53.159
like this. And you see these girls walk in the
1091
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:55.360
red carpet and they say, this is this one's dress,
1092
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:57.480
and this is this one they don't. I would hate
1093
00:45:57.519 --> 00:45:59.639
to say that more than anything, not that I don't
1094
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:03.440
believe identifying with the designer, but not this is my dress.
1095
00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:05.079
It's Oscar de Laurente.
1096
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:07.639
You hung out at Studio fifty four and it was
1097
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:10.039
Andy Warhol and all those really cool people that I
1098
00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:12.440
used to read about after he was dead, really and
1099
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:13.760
I would think, God, I'm never gonna be able to
1100
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:14.199
meet this guy.
1101
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:17.480
I'm doing a documentary on Saturday for on Studio fifty four.
1102
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:19.039
Are you really telling me about that? Where is that
1103
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:19.679
going to appear?
1104
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.840
It's probably I'm sure they're going to do it for
1105
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:27.280
for release. It's done by Ian Schrager, who was one
1106
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:30.400
of the owners of studio. He's producing. You know, documentaries
1107
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:32.840
are so they used to just be on television, but
1108
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:34.400
now I think I'm sure that this is going to
1109
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:35.719
be a major release on it.
1110
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.000
With all the people you've met, all the things you've
1111
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:41.320
done in your life, fitness, of course, we know you
1112
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:44.239
from that as well, what's been the most memorable perhaps,
1113
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:47.360
or what's been the most Who's really impressed you the most?
1114
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:49.079
You can have one or two people if you really want,
1115
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:51.880
you know, I was actually really impressed with Andy Warhol.
1116
00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:54.039
But I was impressed with and you have to understand
1117
00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:56.480
that during the Andy Warhol time, not that many people
1118
00:46:56.559 --> 00:46:58.880
were impressed with him. I was an artist and I
1119
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:03.519
when I studied, I I really, you know, emulated Andy Warhol.
1120
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:05.719
Well, you're creative and when you're a native.
1121
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.440
You get so when I and I have a very
1122
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:09.719
close friend named Richard Wiseman, and he introduced me to
1123
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:13.239
Basky Eye and every one of the designers in Liechtenstein.
1124
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:16.000
And so that's how I met all this group of artists,
1125
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:18.119
and that's how I met Andy, you know.
1126
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:20.679
And don't you have one of his paintings of you?
1127
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:21.920
Not of me?
1128
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:24.159
Boy if you had one of you, but you've got
1129
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:24.639
a couple of his.
1130
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:26.679
I have a couple of his paintings, but not of me.
1131
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:29.679
But the man that did all of Andy Warhol's screens.
1132
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:32.519
When Andy died, they gave him the screens and he
1133
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:34.960
did a portrait. He did several portraits of me and
1134
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:39.480
Andy Warhol's alleged niece, she did a lot of portraits
1135
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:42.800
of me, and leroy Neeman did forty portraits of me.
1136
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:45.119
And so I mean, am I I am up to
1137
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:46.760
my eyeballs and portraits of me?
1138
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:49.039
Can I they at the house? I actually want to
1139
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:49.360
come by?
1140
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.280
And my house is in New York.
1141
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:54.760
One of your house in New York is filled with warholes.
1142
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:57.519
What's the girl to do? I had a bunch of shoes.
1143
00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:00.320
I's so funny because I know, we got a it up.
1144
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:01.800
Guys, like, hurry up, get out of here.
1145
00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:04.000
One of my best friends is Clive Davis, and this
1146
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:06.920
is insulting. Why do you have all these portraits of yourself?
1147
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.440
Why don't you put them in the closet. I've never
1148
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:11.039
seen so many portraits of one person.
1149
00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:14.880
Oh, he's just jealous. No, anyway, just now I'm messing around. Okay,
1150
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:17.039
how can we How can people go and listen to
1151
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:17.440
your show?
1152
00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:20.320
You're on Amazon Amazon Prime, The Nikki Haskell Show.
1153
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:21.880
Okay, check it out?
1154
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:22.559
What's next?
1155
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:24.840
Where are you going next? And more importantly, where are
1156
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:25.960
we going next? What's next?
1157
00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:27.760
Well, I'm doing I just did a pilot for a
1158
00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:30.679
new show called a Flashback to the Future with my partner,
1159
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:34.199
David Devona, which is, you know, me reinterviewing the same
1160
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:36.840
people that I interviewed then, and we're talking about going
1161
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:40.119
to can and shooting the can Film Festival.
1162
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:43.559
Hang on, I'm coming. Why not have a lot of fun.
1163
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:45.440
I will come. I'll do my little show from there.
1164
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:46.639
Oh I'll be great.
1165
00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:47.639
Wouldn't that be the best?
1166
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:47.840
Oh?
1167
00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:48.960
Let's do that.
1168
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:51.159
I'm serious. I had so much fun. I'm sorry that
1169
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:51.920
we have to wrap it up.
1170
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:52.320
So quickly.
1171
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:54.880
But will you both come back? Why not? You guys
1172
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:55.400
have a good time.
1173
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:56.079
I love you.
1174
00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:59.159
Yes, you always have a good time. Do an important blog.
1175
00:48:59.199 --> 00:48:59.920
I didn't even get to that.
1176
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:01.719
You've got to come back next time. Next time we
1177
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:03.639
can talk about my blog. I guess we're through.
1178
00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:06.880
I guess our calm and that was about your divorce
1179
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:08.599
that you went through, and you've teamed up with a
1180
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:10.920
couple of other girls who are doing I guess we're due.
1181
00:49:11.159 --> 00:49:14.000
I guess I do, which is about weddings. I guess
1182
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:15.440
I'm due, which is about babies.
1183
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:21.119
Brilliance, brilliance, brilliance in this room, everybody, Thank you for
1184
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:22.920
joining in, and thank you for listening to my story
1185
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:26.000
about the marathon. I appreciate you both being congratulations to you.
1186
00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:28.360
Thank you a little more rocky music at the end.
1187
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:31.159
See you next week, guys, thanks for being here for
1188
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:33.519
another edition of Debicot about Life.