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you Thanks for joining the Screaming Podcast
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Network. And we have a special guest today. And
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on last day, hello. This is Ryan Cavalini from
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Legend Hunter Films. I appreciate you having
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me on the podcast today. Definitely. I'm glad
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to have you on. Any particular films? Darbel
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Film, a micro -budget film making. I can go on
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for hours about our films. That's no problem.
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So That's definitely man Yeah, absolutely, absolutely,
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so I mean We can hit the old stuff to the new
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stuff and filmmaking in general whatever you'd
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like to talk about This year alone release two
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films One called haunted America, which is a
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documentary film, which I was working on for
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like Almost 10 years and we finally finished
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that and then we also released the myths and
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mutants part two, which is a Grindhouse double
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feature kind of in style Quentin Tarantino Tino
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Grindhouse film like a double feature and That
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we just released It's kind of streaming and it's
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not fully out streaming, but a lot of our stuff
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you can see on 2b or blood screened tv that's
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a free app which is really cool of course uh
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you know the hard copies are available off our
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website so those are the two films we just released
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this year and currently we're working on 13 steps
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to hell which is a horror anthology film kind
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of in style creepshow which is something i always
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wanted to do and uh years ago i i that's how
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i started filmmaking was anthology films and
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i had all these short films i'm like you know
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we should just reshoot these and make them new
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and fresh again so um we dove into that in february
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and we're still shooting shorts i don't know
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what the problem is that we were originally only
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going to do five shorts and ended up up to 13
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and we still have like five more we want to shoot
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so it might just end up being two films at this
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point so but uh It's it's been a fun this year.
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I love I love anthologies Like one of my favorite
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show show. Oh god. Yeah creep show one or two
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of the other ones they tried but But they're
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so nice to film because like you can set them
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up like in a day or two and have most of it shot
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so It's so much easier than a complete feature,
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which you're you try to shoot, you know Eight
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days or five or how many days you need in a row
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with the short films you could do like a weekend
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and have one done which is nice. So I'm what
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got you started? Oh The love of film since she
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since I was a kid, you know, it's tour movies
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and action films and adventure films and I didn't
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really start filmmaking until I was like in high
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school and My parents were cool enough and bought
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me a VHS camera That's how old I am and other
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VHS cameras around and we start making these
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backyard horror films and back then a lot of
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the universities didn't have much for like filmmaking
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but I went to Edinburgh University, which is
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up near Penn or Erie, Pennsylvania and they had
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a film program and I went through most of that
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and I Didn't graduate with a Film degree only
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because at the time that was when like you had
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the Kevin Smiths and the Robert Rodriguez's were
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Independent filmmakers saying you don't need
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film school. You can do it yourself. So I just
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kept kind of making movies on the side and We
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just kept making them and I never really thought
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of myself as a filmmaker until we got distribution
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and then we thought yeah, now we're big time
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We have a movie and distribution, you know skies
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of the lemon now and that wasn't the case but
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you know We just we were happy to have a movie
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and distribution at that point. That's pretty
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cool Yeah, it's been around May make a decision
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to do like the first film you ever made at the
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time I really bugged a lot of distribution companies
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and I was always asking them questions like you
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know what's selling right now what would work
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well and every one of them back this was like
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probably 2000 1999 they all said the same thing
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was you know lots of blood and lots of nudity
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and you'll be fine so we went off and made this
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shitty little film called serial killer which
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was as cheap as possible as basic as possible
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but we just amped up the blood and nudity and
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it basically got us our first distribution deal
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and after that I made a promise to myself and
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everyone involved is that any money we make off
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these films they would just get recycled into
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the next film and we made a little bit of money
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off serial killer enough to go make the next
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film which was Demon Slaughter which was an evil
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dead rip off and we just kept at it and I've
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been blessed enough and lucky enough that 26
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years later we're still making films off of or
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making money off of films we made years ago and
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it's just been recycled money and I've never
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really put a lot of my own money into it it's
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just been building over the years that you know
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we're micro budget we don't have thousands and
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thousands of dollars but we have enough to be
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like hey we can go make another film so it's
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been it's been a really blessed ride You know
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to say at least I mean we're not making many
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other movies, but enough that you know, we got
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a little following and people kind of digger
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or micro -budget stuff. So That's how we started.
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Oh, wow. Oh, that's pretty cool. Um, um, what
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what what app did you guys first start getting
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your movies? The first few films were actually
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went through brain damage films, which is I think
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still in business. I don't know that was years
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ago. That was the Yeah, that was that was the
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first guys that ever picked us up Darren had
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brain damage and You know we made enough money
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off of it to go make another movie and then we
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did a few movies with SRS cinema and then We
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did quite a few films with wild eye releasing
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and then recently over the last few years I've
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kind of just kind of went rogue and kind of did
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our own distribution since I mean you can do
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it yourself and it's just another It's like almost
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running another business is you know getting
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your movies into distribution and doing it yourself
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but It's easier to kind of do it that way because
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you're cutting out that middleman and kind of
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doing it yourself But it's still a full -time
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job and it's still very difficult I really haven't
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had a problem with it. It's it's the waiting
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I mean you're playing by their rules and their
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wait times and They might license a movie, but
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they might sit on it for eight months before
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they put it on the channel and then you got to
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wait for X amount of months to see any money
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off of it, so it's Really important to have as
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many films going as possible And I think that's
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where we kind of lucked out is that we have a
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decent catalog of films out there that You know
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These ones are making us some money in there
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We're just waiting on these next ones to come
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out to kind of add to the pile Not that you're
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gonna make a huge amount of money But I mean
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like I said it was enough to keep us keep the
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wheels on the bus going here for over the years
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What inspires you? What inspires you the most?
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You know back Back when I was a kid and watching
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horror movies. I mean Are those horror movies
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back then like the The the the characters the
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Jason's phrase and pinheads a lot of faces of
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those people were like my superheroes You know,
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I do cares about Marvel comics these people these
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these horror comics or characters were always
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my inspiration and I just You know fell in love
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with the macabre and that was always the inspiration
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to kind of fall in the footsteps of Filmmakers
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that were making stuff like that, but during
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the time when I was at college I've followed
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a lot of indie filmmakers and their stories like
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Eric Stanzi and the Todd sheets I mean those
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guys were icons to me because they were out there
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making indie films on Very low budgets and getting
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their films out there. So I idolized like a lot
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of indie filmmakers from back in the day So,
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you know, they were big inspiration to me back
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then it's still to this day. I mean it's it's
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I mean filmmaking is kind of growing so much
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and everyone with the camera is making a movie
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but the old school guys it really came from nothing
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making these movies and getting them out there
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that was just a huge inspiration right there.
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Oh yeah those are my favorite movies. Absolutely
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they don't they don't make them like that anymore
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do they? No not at all. No not at all. No no
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even Yeah, I mean we shot a lot of horror movies
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over the years, but like round I want to say
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like 2009 2010 I kind of took a break from horror
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movies and got into documentary filmmaking And
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but it was still horror related with me when
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we did a few bigfoot films and we did one on
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exorcisms and and we even continued to make some
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documentaries like about ghosts investigating
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what have you so My always my two cents the filmmakers
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is to try to have as many projects going as once
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at once because you might find that you like
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doing one more than the other you know and uh
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one might pay out better than the other so you
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know always have an open mind of you know doing
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different projects don't put yourself in that
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box yeah so tell me more about the um the big
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club and uh and the haunting movies and the haunting
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movies you uh it was about she's 2000 2010 around
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there. Like I said, I was getting burnt out doing
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horror movies and I'm like, it just seemed like
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everything had been done under the sun and I'm
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like, let's try something else. So I was really
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interested in documentary stuff. So I was doing
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research on the internet one night about Bigfoot.
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And I always thought Bigfoot was this West Coast
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phenomena or a thing that happened. But here
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in Pennsylvania, there was Bigfoot sightings.
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So I got really into it and I contacted all these
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bigfoot groups in the area and met with a few
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and got to know everyone and to this day I'm
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good friends with a lot of them and I spent almost
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two years with them kind of going out in the
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woods and squatching and doing all these bigfoot
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investigations and I'm like this is a great story
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right here about these people doing it and then
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there was a couple of stories I came along that
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were very intriguing so um I ended up making
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Mountain Devil which took about three years to
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make that and It did really well. I mean they
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did extremely well in streaming for us So I ended
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up making two more Mountain Devil movies which
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were based on different stories and other Bigfoot
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investigators and That's a really great avenue
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for other if you're a filmmaker I mean if you
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don't have a lot of money I mean documentary
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filmmaking is pretty cheap all you need is a
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camera and someone to interview you can fill
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in the other spots later, but I really like enjoyed
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doing it was just a different type of filmmaking
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So after we finished kind of some of the Mountain
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Devil stuff A few of us were just really into
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ghost hunting so I'm like well we should shoot
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it and dock and enter it and That one took a
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lot longer for some reason I would work on it
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when we had time or had a really cool Investigation
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because a lot of times you go on ghost hunts
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and nothing happens So it was just like do we
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have enough material to make a dock and entery
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so that took almost Almost 10 years really make
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because it was like on and off and Finally last
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year. I was just kind of fed up I'm like we got
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to finish this movie and put it out because I'm
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tired of dealing with it and We finally got it
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done and the funny part is you know as soon as
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we were done with it everyone's like are we gonna
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make a part two? So we've actually been shooting
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part two here pretty quickly this past year But
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like I said, like I think you know the macabre
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and weird stuff or great material one of our
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other films myths and mutants is kind of like
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a documentary slash mockumentary it's about folklore
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in Pennsylvania but then you know we tell what
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the folklore is and then we twist it into this
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little fictional story which is kind of fun and
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that's what even myths and means too was it's
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just these mythical stories out of Pennsylvania
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and New York and we just you know tell the story
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of what they are and then just twist them into
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this fun horror movie for a little bit. Wow that
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sounds cool. Wow that sounds cool. We stay busy.
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Oh, yeah, it sounds like it Yeah, I started following
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Yeah, we really that's something I've learned
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over is the marketing part of things especially
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with micro budget stuff It's almost like another
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full -time job. You got to constantly put in
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material out so people are following or interested
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and just I mean, we really don't have much of
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a budget once the film is done is like how do
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we let people know what's out there and social
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media is the only way to go and you really have
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to pound the pavement with it and constantly
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be updating and putting stuff out there just
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to hopefully someone sees it or watches it or
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remembers that movie when they're surfing through
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tube or something. Oh, yeah. Do you think um,
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do you think um, Christmas 4th floor or Holland
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football is more terrifying? Christmas is dark,
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man. If you look into some of the folklore of
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Christmas, there's some really crazy stories
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out there. I mean, I fell in love with the Hans
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Trap story. That's just creepy as hell with the
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whole scarecrow and eating kids. But there's
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other folklore from Christmas. It's deeper than
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Krampus. There's some really worse stuff than
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Krampus out there, but everyone knows what Krampus
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is. But yeah, you could you could do all kinds
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of films on Christmas folklore. It's it's a never
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-ending rabbit hole really. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely
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definitely. Yeah. Yeah. What is your model? Be
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grateful You know, I made these movies on on
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very little budgets to love people's time energy
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Vision listen to me all day and I have a great
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crew that works really well together and with
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me and so Anytime you're doing something where
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you're barely paying people anything or they're
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just volunteering their time and be extremely
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humble and grateful always because These people
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are here for you for the day. So just just be
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grateful to the film gods that they that they
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give you this opportunity I believe in the film
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gods it's a very it's a real thing I believe
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I think they look down upon us and watch how
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you're making a movie and they'll guide you through
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it and the crazy thing is you know people in
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our group here will make fun of me because I
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always say about film gods but literally a week
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ago we were shooting in Pittsburgh and an actor
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I had that was coming fell through like that
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day so we still went to the location which was
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this uh creepy house with a lot of oddities and
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weird stuff and the people that ran the place
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or run the place were very care they were very
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characters themselves and we ended up using them
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as like a host part for this other for the part
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of this document or part of this movie we're
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shooting so in that moment i sit to myself the
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film gods have answered us so one door closes
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another opens and the film gods will tell you
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how this is going to play out. So be grateful
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with the film gods. Yeah, very interesting. Yeah,
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I mean, things fall through all the time, but
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there's a reason, you know, especially the micro
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budget. I mean, it's just, you don't know how
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the day is going to go. Just because you know,
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a lot of people aren't getting paid. They're
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just there because they want to be there. But
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life happens, you know, things happen all the
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time. So, so be grateful. Just be humble and
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grateful as much as you can be. Is there anything
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else you want to talk about like in particular?
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You know, I've been filmmaking for a long time
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and it's changed so much over the years. I mean,
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I started off on VHS tape and film and the scenery
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of the independent film world has just evolved
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so much over the years. And I wish I could go
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back to be a younger Ryan at this point in life
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with the Everything that these filmmakers have
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their access they have such an access to you
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can make a movie on your phone I mean that's
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just crazy to me, but I think There's a lot of
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hate out there for like AI and there's I just
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don't think filmmakers understand how good they
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have it I Mean even using AI now I'm not a big
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huge fan of a whole AI movie, but I think AI
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has its place to manipulate and make your make
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your vision. I mean, I've used AI just for certain
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shots, but I just think filmmakers should be,
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they just don't understand. I wish like a new
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filmmaker, like you give them an eight millimeter
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camera and be like, go make a short. They would
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be so grateful after that, you know, and I talked
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to a lot of young filmmakers that are doing stuff.
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And you know, they'll ask me, you know, what,
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what do you think? My biggest motto to them is
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tell me your story, you know, come up with something
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new, something I had never heard of or something
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Just different it just seems like a lot of Filmmakers
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will want to reshoot stuff or Make a fan base
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film, which I don't understand that stuff one
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bit and Like I always tell them just tell me
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your story You know horrors the most macabre
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thing you can go anywhere with it You know what
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what do you have to say? You know show me something
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or tell me something now granted I'm a victim
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of that too like I a lot of my stuff is You could
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probably you know Look back and say you were
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influenced by Evil Dead or Texas Chainsaw. Well,
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yeah, they're the films I grew up on but you
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know, this is me telling my version of it or
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a story and maybe no one's heard and I think
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with the Legend Hunter films the whole idea is
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to tell myths and legends and folklore that are
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in in our state or local states and things people
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never really heard of and I think that's fresh
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and new and that's what I really pinpoint to
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a lot of younger filmmakers is you know tell
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me your story find something fresh new something
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no one's ever heard of and uh you know do your
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best you know you don't need a million dollars
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to go make a movie that'd be nice but you know
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take what you can and do your best and you know
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it's gonna suck so you're gonna make the next
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one do a little better learn from it I mean every
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every film we make I learn something new I'm
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far from perfect and it's you know lack of budget
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lack of you know we're a crew but you know do
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your best and be grateful to the film gods right
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I've been around a block for a while and you
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know it's the things are They're easier for filmmakers,
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but it's also very difficult I mean you can make
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a horror film and they could get lost in the
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sea of horror movies that are out there You know,
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how do you make your movie stand out? You just
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got to get creative and tell me something I've
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never heard You know, maybe other people are
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afraid to do. Sure. You just gotta believe in
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the podcast gods and they'll direct you in the
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right way. Yes, I can. But yeah, that's my two
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cents on filmmaking. You wanna stay your socials
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and stuff like that? That way people can go check
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out your paid. Sure, I mean, you know, of course
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to the old Facebook, you know, it's all Ryan
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Cavalini or legendary films We have a website,
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which is legendary films .com. We're on Instagram
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Jesus, where else are we all most are most all
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the movies are streaming somewhere to be Amazon
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them are the two hotspots, of course. Oh boy
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blood screen TV Paraplex Uh, you know, just if
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there's a film we have that you want to see just,
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you know, Google it on him and you should find
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it on streaming somewhere. Um, we're out there.
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It's just, you know, put our name and buzzer
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in our films and you should find us. Also be
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listing all your socials and people on the podcast.
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Sweet, sweet. I appreciate it. All right, so
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unless you have anything else to say, it might
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work. I'm good if you're good unless you're something
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you want to talk about specific and I don't know
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how long you usually run your shows here. I don't
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know usually roughly 20 minutes. Yeah, yeah,
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we hit 23. That's pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty
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good. It's pretty good. It's my first one since
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a year or so. Oh, okay. It's been a while. Yeah,
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because I was sick like a year ago. So I took
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a little bit of a vacation. You know, absolutely.
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it can uh stuff can wear you down absolutely
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but uh all right all i hope you have a great
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day or night or night absolutely i appreciate
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a thousand thank yous for having me on and uh
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just you know send me the goodies when they're
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when you have it ready and i'll post on my end
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and definitely won't absolutely a thousand thank
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yous you're welcome you're welcome
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you Thanks for joining the Screaming Podcast
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Network. And we have a special guest today. And
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on last day, hello. This is Ryan Cavalini from
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Legend Hunter Films. I appreciate you having
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me on the podcast today. Definitely. I'm glad
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to have you on. Any particular films? Darbel
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Film, a micro -budget film making. I can go on
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for hours about our films. That's no problem.
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So That's definitely man Yeah, absolutely, absolutely,
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so I mean We can hit the old stuff to the new
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stuff and filmmaking in general whatever you'd
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like to talk about This year alone release two
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films One called haunted America, which is a
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documentary film, which I was working on for
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like Almost 10 years and we finally finished
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that and then we also released the myths and
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mutants part two, which is a Grindhouse double
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feature kind of in style Quentin Tarantino Tino
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Grindhouse film like a double feature and That
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we just released It's kind of streaming and it's
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not fully out streaming, but a lot of our stuff
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you can see on 2b or blood screened tv that's
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a free app which is really cool of course uh
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you know the hard copies are available off our
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website so those are the two films we just released
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this year and currently we're working on 13 steps
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to hell which is a horror anthology film kind
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of in style creepshow which is something i always
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wanted to do and uh years ago i i that's how
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i started filmmaking was anthology films and
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i had all these short films i'm like you know
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we should just reshoot these and make them new
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and fresh again so um we dove into that in february
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and we're still shooting shorts i don't know
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what the problem is that we were originally only
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going to do five shorts and ended up up to 13
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and we still have like five more we want to shoot
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so it might just end up being two films at this
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point so but uh It's it's been a fun this year.
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I love I love anthologies Like one of my favorite
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show show. Oh god. Yeah creep show one or two
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of the other ones they tried but But they're
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so nice to film because like you can set them
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up like in a day or two and have most of it shot
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so It's so much easier than a complete feature,
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which you're you try to shoot, you know Eight
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days or five or how many days you need in a row
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with the short films you could do like a weekend
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and have one done which is nice. So I'm what
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got you started? Oh The love of film since she
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since I was a kid, you know, it's tour movies
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and action films and adventure films and I didn't
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really start filmmaking until I was like in high
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school and My parents were cool enough and bought
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me a VHS camera That's how old I am and other
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VHS cameras around and we start making these
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backyard horror films and back then a lot of
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the universities didn't have much for like filmmaking
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but I went to Edinburgh University, which is
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up near Penn or Erie, Pennsylvania and they had
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a film program and I went through most of that
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and I Didn't graduate with a Film degree only
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because at the time that was when like you had
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the Kevin Smiths and the Robert Rodriguez's were
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Independent filmmakers saying you don't need
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film school. You can do it yourself. So I just
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kept kind of making movies on the side and We
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just kept making them and I never really thought
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of myself as a filmmaker until we got distribution
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and then we thought yeah, now we're big time
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We have a movie and distribution, you know skies
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of the lemon now and that wasn't the case but
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you know We just we were happy to have a movie
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and distribution at that point. That's pretty
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cool Yeah, it's been around May make a decision
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to do like the first film you ever made at the
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time I really bugged a lot of distribution companies
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and I was always asking them questions like you
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know what's selling right now what would work
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well and every one of them back this was like
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probably 2000 1999 they all said the same thing
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was you know lots of blood and lots of nudity
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and you'll be fine so we went off and made this
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shitty little film called serial killer which
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was as cheap as possible as basic as possible
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but we just amped up the blood and nudity and
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it basically got us our first distribution deal
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and after that I made a promise to myself and
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everyone involved is that any money we make off
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these films they would just get recycled into
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the next film and we made a little bit of money
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off serial killer enough to go make the next
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film which was Demon Slaughter which was an evil
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dead rip off and we just kept at it and I've
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been blessed enough and lucky enough that 26
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years later we're still making films off of or
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making money off of films we made years ago and
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it's just been recycled money and I've never
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really put a lot of my own money into it it's
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just been building over the years that you know
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we're micro budget we don't have thousands and
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thousands of dollars but we have enough to be
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like hey we can go make another film so it's
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been it's been a really blessed ride You know
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to say at least I mean we're not making many
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other movies, but enough that you know, we got
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a little following and people kind of digger
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or micro -budget stuff. So That's how we started.
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Oh, wow. Oh, that's pretty cool. Um, um, what
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what what app did you guys first start getting
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your movies? The first few films were actually
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went through brain damage films, which is I think
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still in business. I don't know that was years
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ago. That was the Yeah, that was that was the
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first guys that ever picked us up Darren had
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brain damage and You know we made enough money
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off of it to go make another movie and then we
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did a few movies with SRS cinema and then We
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did quite a few films with wild eye releasing
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and then recently over the last few years I've
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kind of just kind of went rogue and kind of did
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our own distribution since I mean you can do
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it yourself and it's just another It's like almost
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running another business is you know getting
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your movies into distribution and doing it yourself
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but It's easier to kind of do it that way because
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you're cutting out that middleman and kind of
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doing it yourself But it's still a full -time
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job and it's still very difficult I really haven't
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had a problem with it. It's it's the waiting
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I mean you're playing by their rules and their
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wait times and They might license a movie, but
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they might sit on it for eight months before
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they put it on the channel and then you got to
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wait for X amount of months to see any money
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off of it, so it's Really important to have as
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many films going as possible And I think that's
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where we kind of lucked out is that we have a
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decent catalog of films out there that You know
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These ones are making us some money in there
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We're just waiting on these next ones to come
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out to kind of add to the pile Not that you're
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gonna make a huge amount of money But I mean
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like I said it was enough to keep us keep the
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wheels on the bus going here for over the years
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What inspires you? What inspires you the most?
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You know back Back when I was a kid and watching
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horror movies. I mean Are those horror movies
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back then like the The the the characters the
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Jason's phrase and pinheads a lot of faces of
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those people were like my superheroes You know,
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I do cares about Marvel comics these people these
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these horror comics or characters were always
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my inspiration and I just You know fell in love
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with the macabre and that was always the inspiration
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to kind of fall in the footsteps of Filmmakers
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that were making stuff like that, but during
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the time when I was at college I've followed
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a lot of indie filmmakers and their stories like
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Eric Stanzi and the Todd sheets I mean those
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guys were icons to me because they were out there
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making indie films on Very low budgets and getting
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their films out there. So I idolized like a lot
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of indie filmmakers from back in the day So,
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you know, they were big inspiration to me back
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then it's still to this day. I mean it's it's
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I mean filmmaking is kind of growing so much
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and everyone with the camera is making a movie
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but the old school guys it really came from nothing
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making these movies and getting them out there
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that was just a huge inspiration right there.
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Oh yeah those are my favorite movies. Absolutely
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they don't they don't make them like that anymore
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do they? No not at all. No not at all. No no
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even Yeah, I mean we shot a lot of horror movies
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over the years, but like round I want to say
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like 2009 2010 I kind of took a break from horror
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movies and got into documentary filmmaking And
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but it was still horror related with me when
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we did a few bigfoot films and we did one on
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exorcisms and and we even continued to make some
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documentaries like about ghosts investigating
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what have you so My always my two cents the filmmakers
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is to try to have as many projects going as once
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at once because you might find that you like
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doing one more than the other you know and uh
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one might pay out better than the other so you
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know always have an open mind of you know doing
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different projects don't put yourself in that
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box yeah so tell me more about the um the big
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club and uh and the haunting movies and the haunting
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movies you uh it was about she's 2000 2010 around
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there. Like I said, I was getting burnt out doing
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horror movies and I'm like, it just seemed like
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everything had been done under the sun and I'm
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like, let's try something else. So I was really
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interested in documentary stuff. So I was doing
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research on the internet one night about Bigfoot.
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And I always thought Bigfoot was this West Coast
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phenomena or a thing that happened. But here
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in Pennsylvania, there was Bigfoot sightings.
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So I got really into it and I contacted all these
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bigfoot groups in the area and met with a few
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and got to know everyone and to this day I'm
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good friends with a lot of them and I spent almost
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two years with them kind of going out in the
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woods and squatching and doing all these bigfoot
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investigations and I'm like this is a great story
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right here about these people doing it and then
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there was a couple of stories I came along that
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were very intriguing so um I ended up making
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Mountain Devil which took about three years to
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make that and It did really well. I mean they
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did extremely well in streaming for us So I ended
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up making two more Mountain Devil movies which
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were based on different stories and other Bigfoot
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investigators and That's a really great avenue
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for other if you're a filmmaker I mean if you
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don't have a lot of money I mean documentary
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filmmaking is pretty cheap all you need is a
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camera and someone to interview you can fill
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in the other spots later, but I really like enjoyed
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doing it was just a different type of filmmaking
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So after we finished kind of some of the Mountain
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Devil stuff A few of us were just really into
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ghost hunting so I'm like well we should shoot
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it and dock and enter it and That one took a
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lot longer for some reason I would work on it
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when we had time or had a really cool Investigation
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because a lot of times you go on ghost hunts
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and nothing happens So it was just like do we
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have enough material to make a dock and entery
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so that took almost Almost 10 years really make
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because it was like on and off and Finally last
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year. I was just kind of fed up I'm like we got
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to finish this movie and put it out because I'm
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tired of dealing with it and We finally got it
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done and the funny part is you know as soon as
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we were done with it everyone's like are we gonna
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make a part two? So we've actually been shooting
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part two here pretty quickly this past year But
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like I said, like I think you know the macabre
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and weird stuff or great material one of our
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other films myths and mutants is kind of like
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a documentary slash mockumentary it's about folklore
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in Pennsylvania but then you know we tell what
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the folklore is and then we twist it into this
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little fictional story which is kind of fun and
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that's what even myths and means too was it's
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just these mythical stories out of Pennsylvania
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and New York and we just you know tell the story
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of what they are and then just twist them into
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this fun horror movie for a little bit. Wow that
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sounds cool. Wow that sounds cool. We stay busy.
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Oh, yeah, it sounds like it Yeah, I started following
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Yeah, we really that's something I've learned
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over is the marketing part of things especially
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with micro budget stuff It's almost like another
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full -time job. You got to constantly put in
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material out so people are following or interested
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and just I mean, we really don't have much of
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a budget once the film is done is like how do
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we let people know what's out there and social
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media is the only way to go and you really have
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to pound the pavement with it and constantly
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be updating and putting stuff out there just
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to hopefully someone sees it or watches it or
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remembers that movie when they're surfing through
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tube or something. Oh, yeah. Do you think um,
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do you think um, Christmas 4th floor or Holland
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football is more terrifying? Christmas is dark,
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man. If you look into some of the folklore of
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Christmas, there's some really crazy stories
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out there. I mean, I fell in love with the Hans
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Trap story. That's just creepy as hell with the
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whole scarecrow and eating kids. But there's
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other folklore from Christmas. It's deeper than
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Krampus. There's some really worse stuff than
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Krampus out there, but everyone knows what Krampus
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is. But yeah, you could you could do all kinds
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of films on Christmas folklore. It's it's a never
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-ending rabbit hole really. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely
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definitely. Yeah. Yeah. What is your model? Be
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grateful You know, I made these movies on on
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very little budgets to love people's time energy
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Vision listen to me all day and I have a great
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crew that works really well together and with
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me and so Anytime you're doing something where
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you're barely paying people anything or they're
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just volunteering their time and be extremely
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humble and grateful always because These people
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are here for you for the day. So just just be
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grateful to the film gods that they that they
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give you this opportunity I believe in the film
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gods it's a very it's a real thing I believe
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I think they look down upon us and watch how
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you're making a movie and they'll guide you through
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it and the crazy thing is you know people in
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our group here will make fun of me because I
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always say about film gods but literally a week
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ago we were shooting in Pittsburgh and an actor
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I had that was coming fell through like that
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day so we still went to the location which was
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this uh creepy house with a lot of oddities and
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weird stuff and the people that ran the place
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or run the place were very care they were very
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characters themselves and we ended up using them
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as like a host part for this other for the part
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of this document or part of this movie we're
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shooting so in that moment i sit to myself the
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film gods have answered us so one door closes
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another opens and the film gods will tell you
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how this is going to play out. So be grateful
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with the film gods. Yeah, very interesting. Yeah,
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I mean, things fall through all the time, but
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there's a reason, you know, especially the micro
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budget. I mean, it's just, you don't know how
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the day is going to go. Just because you know,
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a lot of people aren't getting paid. They're
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just there because they want to be there. But
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life happens, you know, things happen all the
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time. So, so be grateful. Just be humble and
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grateful as much as you can be. Is there anything
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else you want to talk about like in particular?
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You know, I've been filmmaking for a long time
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and it's changed so much over the years. I mean,
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I started off on VHS tape and film and the scenery
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of the independent film world has just evolved
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so much over the years. And I wish I could go
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back to be a younger Ryan at this point in life
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with the Everything that these filmmakers have
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their access they have such an access to you
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can make a movie on your phone I mean that's
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just crazy to me, but I think There's a lot of
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hate out there for like AI and there's I just
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don't think filmmakers understand how good they
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have it I Mean even using AI now I'm not a big
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huge fan of a whole AI movie, but I think AI
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has its place to manipulate and make your make
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your vision. I mean, I've used AI just for certain
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shots, but I just think filmmakers should be,
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they just don't understand. I wish like a new
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filmmaker, like you give them an eight millimeter
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camera and be like, go make a short. They would
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be so grateful after that, you know, and I talked
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to a lot of young filmmakers that are doing stuff.
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And you know, they'll ask me, you know, what,
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what do you think? My biggest motto to them is
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tell me your story, you know, come up with something
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new, something I had never heard of or something
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Just different it just seems like a lot of Filmmakers
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will want to reshoot stuff or Make a fan base
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film, which I don't understand that stuff one
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bit and Like I always tell them just tell me
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your story You know horrors the most macabre
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thing you can go anywhere with it You know what
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what do you have to say? You know show me something
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or tell me something now granted I'm a victim
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of that too like I a lot of my stuff is You could
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probably you know Look back and say you were
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influenced by Evil Dead or Texas Chainsaw. Well,
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yeah, they're the films I grew up on but you
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know, this is me telling my version of it or
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a story and maybe no one's heard and I think
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with the Legend Hunter films the whole idea is
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to tell myths and legends and folklore that are
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in in our state or local states and things people
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never really heard of and I think that's fresh
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and new and that's what I really pinpoint to
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a lot of younger filmmakers is you know tell
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me your story find something fresh new something
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no one's ever heard of and uh you know do your
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best you know you don't need a million dollars
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to go make a movie that'd be nice but you know
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take what you can and do your best and you know
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it's gonna suck so you're gonna make the next
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one do a little better learn from it I mean every
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every film we make I learn something new I'm
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far from perfect and it's you know lack of budget
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lack of you know we're a crew but you know do
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your best and be grateful to the film gods right
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I've been around a block for a while and you
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know it's the things are They're easier for filmmakers,
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but it's also very difficult I mean you can make
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a horror film and they could get lost in the
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sea of horror movies that are out there You know,
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how do you make your movie stand out? You just
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got to get creative and tell me something I've
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never heard You know, maybe other people are
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afraid to do. Sure. You just gotta believe in
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the podcast gods and they'll direct you in the
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right way. Yes, I can. But yeah, that's my two
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cents on filmmaking. You wanna stay your socials
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and stuff like that? That way people can go check
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out your paid. Sure, I mean, you know, of course
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to the old Facebook, you know, it's all Ryan
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Cavalini or legendary films We have a website,
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which is legendary films .com. We're on Instagram
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Jesus, where else are we all most are most all
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the movies are streaming somewhere to be Amazon
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them are the two hotspots, of course. Oh boy
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blood screen TV Paraplex Uh, you know, just if
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there's a film we have that you want to see just,
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you know, Google it on him and you should find
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it on streaming somewhere. Um, we're out there.
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It's just, you know, put our name and buzzer
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in our films and you should find us. Also be
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listing all your socials and people on the podcast.
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Sweet, sweet. I appreciate it. All right, so
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unless you have anything else to say, it might
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work. I'm good if you're good unless you're something
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you want to talk about specific and I don't know
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how long you usually run your shows here. I don't
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know usually roughly 20 minutes. Yeah, yeah,
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we hit 23. That's pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty
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good. It's pretty good. It's my first one since
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a year or so. Oh, okay. It's been a while. Yeah,
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because I was sick like a year ago. So I took
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a little bit of a vacation. You know, absolutely.
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it can uh stuff can wear you down absolutely
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but uh all right all i hope you have a great
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day or night or night absolutely i appreciate
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a thousand thank yous for having me on and uh
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just you know send me the goodies when they're
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when you have it ready and i'll post on my end
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and definitely won't absolutely a thousand thank
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yous you're welcome you're welcome
