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Thank you all. Oh, I love our Thursday recorded audience.
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So wonderful to see. And Albert is here today, everyone.
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Albert, thank you.
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He's going to help try to keep the train on
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the tracks.
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Mark, are you here?
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Yeah.
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Yes, he's here.
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That's right. And Kim is here, too.
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Kim, how are you?
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Yeah, very, very cool.
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I heard you missed me.
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Yeah, it's very, very wonderful to have everyone here on
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the day. We have a special guest. In addition to
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the federal prosecutor who turned defense attorney. I'm talking about
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David Katz, who is a regular Thursday visitor. We have
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Greg Pallast here today. And if ever there was a
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guy who had a lot on his plate, it's Greg Palast.
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He is an election ninja, and he can talk about
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the different ways in which there is voter suppression going on.
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He's sort of made that the mother's milk of a
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lot of his investigative work until this point. But obviously
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there are now new creative ways to both suppress votes,
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eliminate votes, dry clean the voter rolls of those who
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have the right to vote. And then finally, as we've
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seen just last night, there are ways to buy votes.
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And Donald Trump touched on some of those, and we'll
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get to Greg Palast a little bit later. So I
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have much to get to. Your comments. We're a live show.
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All you have to do is click and join. And again,
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We consider all of you who listen, who watch, all
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of you to be among the elite in America. You
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hear a lot about the elite. This is a separate
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category of elite. Kelly Malloy, welcome back. $ 5 super sticker.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you. Kelly... losing his father, Tom,
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who was a longtime viewer of the show, Tom Malloy.
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And so we are all still mourning that, but really
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encouraged by seeing Kelly back in the mix. I've got
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a lot to get to, so I'm just going to
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try to get to it right away. There was that
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Trumpapalooza event where essentially it was like an RNC convention,
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but before the midterms, and you had Donald Trump buying
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or trying to buy votes, offering this $ 5, 000. I'm laughing
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because it's such a desperate Hail Mary play. It speaks
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to how Trump knows that he's in trouble. But I'll
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give you a full heaping portion of all of that
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in a little while. Also, the most bizarre Trump endorsement
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of Ken Paxton. I don't know if you've noticed the
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way he's been endorsing Ken Paxton, but he's been doing
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it in this odd way that I will share with
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you in a couple of minutes as well. Hey, Gordon,
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thank you for a $ 2 super sticker. Yeah, super stickers
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and super chats are happening too, so you can do
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that live. You can also do it in after hours commenting.
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We read all your comments. Please, most people watch this
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show after the live show is done, and please add
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your comments, and I take very much to heart much
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of what you say, sometimes too much to heart, and
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I very much appreciate the back and forth. And it
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also helps us in the world of YouTube. If you
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get any kind of comment, it just shows audience engagement,
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and that helps just support the show as well. So let's,
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without any further delay, Albert, if you are ready, we
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will get things underway. I wanted to mention that.
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It's not all Trump and buying votes. I will get
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to that. But Trump's day didn't start well yesterday. Here's
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a guy who's languishing in the 30s in terms of
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his approval rating. And there was a lot going on.
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We chronicle it in a segment that we like to
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call Chunk of Trump. Open wide. Ready?
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Here comes your chunk of Trump.
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It's my favorite food.
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With your first bite, here's Mark Thompson.
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I have a feeling it's going to be beautiful. Don't
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let the little production element fool you. We consider it
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all deadly serious. But by the same token, it's Trump-centric.
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And yesterday, before his Trumpapalooza appearance, a bizarre thing happened
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to his Qatari flying palace, you know, the thing that
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was gifted to him by the foreign government of Qatar,
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something that is specifically prohibited in the Constitution, which is
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why the workaround was, well, the Pentagon, it's a gift
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to the Pentagon, the Pentagon's going to use it. And then,
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of course, we, you and I, paid almost a billion
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dollars to secure it And apparently it's still not completely secure,
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but the problems with the flying palace may be even
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more basic. Here was how his day started for Trump.
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It was not all good.
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The day didn't start smoothly.
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The president's flight delayed after an emergency slide on the
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new Air Force One. That $ 400 million gift from Qatar
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inflated and deployed. ABC's Mary Bruce there watching it all.
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The president is still right there behind me on Marine One.
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He's been there for about 15 minutes. And just moments ago,
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this happened.
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You see that?
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It's a slide, one of those inflatable slides that was
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deployed from the opposite side of the plane.
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Mary then spotting the old Air Force One pulling up
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behind the cutter gifted jet a possible backup. The president
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with this explanation.
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They were doing a check on the slide, you know,
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on the emergency.
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But sources later telling ABC News, military personnel accidentally triggered
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the slide.
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Are you sure this.
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Plane is safe to fly?
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Yeah, I am.
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Or I wouldn't be honest.
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The president eventually boarding the Qatari-gifted jet and taking off
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for Dallas. Tonight, with President Trump's approval rating at a
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record low 33%, some Republicans in tough races skipping the convention.
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The president knows the war with Iran, now in its
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seventh month, is deeply unpopular. Now offering yet another timeline
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for when it will all end.
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I think the war will end immediately after the election.
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Because.
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because they can't hold out any longer.
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He insists the price of gas, now at $ 4. 26 a gallon,
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will plunge, but not before the midterms.
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Right after the election, oil prices are going to be
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tumbling downward.
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They're going to be tumbling down, and we'll get them down.
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I think for gasoline, we'll get them below $ 2 a gallon.
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But not until after the midterms.
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I think it's going to take a.
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Little bit longer than the midterms.
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And David Preston?
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Yes. The gas prices are tumbling so low, they'll be
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paying you to get gas, but it won't happen until
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after the midterms. The thin quality of Trump lies, now
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I would think everybody's hip to, but he continues to
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crank it. It's just an unstoppable reflex move that Trump makes.
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It's clearly absurd, right? We know that, A, the price
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of gas isn't going to drop to $ 2, B, It's
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very likely that the price of gas will continue to
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escalate as his intractable situation in the Middle East continues
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to be one that shows no signs of a resolution.
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I will say that Trump was consistent. Trump feels everything
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is going to get better after the midterms. If you'll
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just vote Republican in the midterms, everything's going to get better.
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And this was a consistent feature of his speech and
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a consistent feature of his messaging. It was all at Trumpapalooza,
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the event from last night at which he is the
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keynote speaker two nights in a row. I mean, it's just, again,
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this is lavishing praise on someone who can't possibly get
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enough praise. It's a huge ego play. And to be fair,
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in some cases, like the case of Paxton in Texas,
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maybe Trump is saying the thing that's needed to motivate
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the base to come out. He's trying to get that
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base to come out. So I'll get to the payoff
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in a moment, but his big message is, vote as
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though I'm on the ballot. It's cut three. He wants
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everybody to remember, even though he's not on the ballot, vote,
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pretend that I am on the ballot.
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A president, Democrat or Republican, almost never wins the midterms.
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We've got to change that because we have something going
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that's so good, we can't let that string be broken.
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So I'm asking you to pretend that I'm on the ballot.
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I'm on the ballot.
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I'm on the ballot.
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Just one more time. Because if we lose, you're going
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to lose your border. You're going to lose your tax cuts.
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You're going to lose your safety and security. You're going
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to lose your wealth. Our country is going through hell.
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You will be going through hell just like you did
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just two years ago. We went through hell. We were
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a laughing stock all over the world.
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We were laughing.
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They don't laugh at us anymore, do they?
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No, they actually completely pull away from America now. it
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is something that he speaks of, uh, full-throatedly. This is
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sort of playing the hits. He's done this for a while, right?
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If they get in, those socialists, those radical liberal Democrats,
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they're going to take your schools, your health care, your God. Well,
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the reality, of course, is that Donald Trump himself has
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realized something, which is that the GOP brand is damaged.
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And that's why he has to come through with this message,
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which is pretend I'm on the ballot. Now, it's an
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awkward message since his approval rating is so very low
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in the 30s. So pretending he's on the ballot may
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not be the cure for the illness he's trying to treat.
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And the illness is that life ain't good right now.
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So when he goes, you know, Think about how you
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were two years ago. Think about how awful it was
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under Joe Biden. Well, those look like golden days compared
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to what's happened over the last couple of years here.
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You've seen health care rollbacks that are really going to
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kick in after the midterms. You've seen the price of
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gas skyrocket. You've seen these ridiculous tariffs and trade wars
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begin out of nowhere, even with trade agreements that were
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already settled. I'm talking about the one with Canada. So
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this is a An administration that is chaotically pursuing any
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number of things that are radically making life worse for
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consumers and voters. So, again, his message is somewhat hollow
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when he talks about vote GOP and pretend I'm on
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the ballot. But maybe that wasn't enough because he really
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tried to stick the landings. with a wild way in
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which he's trying to get this crew and all voters
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out there to vote GOP. It's cut to.
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Because we've done so well and because our country is
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making so much money that only I can make this
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promise to you.
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And here is my promise.
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If the Republicans win the House of Representatives and the
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United States Senate, both of them, because of our economic,
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tremendous economic success, like in history, we've never had anything
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like what's happening.
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But because of our.
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Tremendous strength and success economically, I.
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Will issue a dividend to every adult citizen.
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In the United States of America for $ 5, 000.
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Besant clapping and smiling has to realize the ridiculousness of this.
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Very much like.
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A successful company will do a cash distribution to its shareholders.
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Or like last year when I gave our great members
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of the military, 1,776, remember?
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Yeah. So many things to say about this. I'll just
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start at the first, which may be something that sprang
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to mind when you watched it, which is, isn't that illegal,
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offering money for a vote? Well, there are a lot
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of ways to spend it. And you can spin it
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as– he wasn't really offering money for a vote. He
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was saying that you will participate in the prosperity that
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will follow if you vote Republican in the midterms. You
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can see how you can do the shimmy easily and
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kind of avoid that. But we'll ask David Katz, the
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former federal prosecutor, and– brilliant legal analyst about that. But
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the other thing, well, if you were to offer $ 5, 000
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and actually deliver checks, as he suggested to, uh, all, uh,
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adults in the United States of America, it would be
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a 1.3 trillion. I thought I was guessing 1.25 and
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it's 1.3. So I was very proud of myself today, but, uh,
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It is ridiculous. Yes, thank you. It's ludicrous. Thank you.
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I don't know where to begin with how ludicrous it is.
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First of all, you know it's a lie, right? It's
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an utter absurdity, one more crazy lie, and one more
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crazy promise that Trump won't deliver on. And I say
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this because look at his first lie. I mean, when
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he— hooked everybody up with Doge. He cooked up Doge
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out of nowhere. He gave Elon Musk's crew, a bunch
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of 18 to 26-year-olds, he gave them all access to
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all of these government agencies and allowed them to scrape
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government computers for all of this information, everything from social
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security to tax information, etc., and leave that aside. Do
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you remember, let's just get back to the money, the
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Checks that were going to come. Do you remember the
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Doge checks? He talked about it. All the money that
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Doge was going to save us was going to come
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to us in the form of Doge payouts. Well, as
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you know, Doge didn't save any money, cost tens of
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thousands of people their jobs, cost maybe hundreds of thousands
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of lives worldwide as USAID was closed. And what you
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saw in Trump there was this. which is a total lie.
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We're going to save you all this money, and then
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you're going to get this check from us. We're all
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getting 5K. It will be in the mail right after
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the $ 2, 000. There it is, Doge rebate and the $ 1, 500
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tariff rebate. Thank you, Western Florida. That's exactly right. That
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was the next thing I was going to get to.
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The tariff rebate. These tariffs are terrific. They're going to
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be levied on... foreign governments when, of course, the reality
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is there are attacks that are levied on the American people,
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and we're going to get checks. Well, where are those checks?
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This is absurd. It's so clearly a lie that I
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can't imagine anyone believes it. And lastly, I'd say this.
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If you want to give us a check for $ 5, 000,
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or for any amount, you can do it. You have
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control of the House and the Senate, and you will
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sign that legislation into law. You can appropriate that money
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right now. So this whole idea is if you vote
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us in and we have control of the Senate and
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the House, then I'll give you the $ 5, 000. I mean,
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that's the, as again, I always call it the clunkiest con,
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but the clunky con won him the presidency twice. So,
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I mean, maybe there are people gullible enough to believe
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this crap, but the reality is you, Trump, dude, you
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have the whole government under your control. If you really
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wanted to send checks for any amount, to voters for
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any reason. Voters, adults, families, however you want to, you
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can do it. You're the president and you have control
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of both houses now. It's one more absurd thing that
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he throws out there. And to me, it's a Hail
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Mary pass. It really speaks to how desperate he is.
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Now they're going to try everything on this coming election.
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I mean, there is an attempt to bribe voters. They're
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going to try to Manipulate outcomes, not honor outcomes. Talk
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about the fact that there is a cloud of controversy
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around mail-in balloting. There's going to be a cloud of
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controversy about whatever results. They're going to try everything to
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not honor the results. But this $ 5, 000 thing, it's a
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Hail Mary pass from a BS artist who was on
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10 last night. The BS was just pouring out, and
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he wasn't alone. J.D. Vance, of course, has called upon
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his vice president, a guy who once called Trump America's Hitler, J.D.
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Vance has called upon to kind of explain the $ 5, 000 offer.
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You know, explain how this would work. And the Fox
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people in the question, I'll play it for you right now,
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actually go to, boy, does this pencil out exactly, you know,
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your critics would say this is maybe adding a lot
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to the deficit. Maybe you can explain it. It's cut 12.
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If we do that, we're going to do just fine.
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So, Mr.
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Vice President, I heard the Trump dividend raised some eyebrows. $ 5, 000
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for every adult citizen if the House wins.
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Wait, it raised my eyebrows and both hands went up
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at the same time.
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You guys don't need it.
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This is for the American middle class.
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But if the Republicans win the House, $ 5, 000 for every
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adult citizen.
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So you do the quick math. That's about $ 1.
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3 trillion.
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I can hear the critics' heads exploding.
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They're saying out loud, I guarantee you, The president is
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bribing voters to vote for Republicans to take over the House.
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And then he's bankrupting the country because the deficit debt
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is huge and inflation would come back if this comes
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into play.
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So how do you answer those criticisms?
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Well, I say, first of all, what the president's talking
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about is fundamentally a dividend for American workers. We're taking
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in an extraordinary amount of revenue because the President of
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the United States is actually standing up to both foreign companies,
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but also foreign countries who've been taking advantage of America's
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workers for pretty much my entire life. All of these tariffs,
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what is a tariff, Brett? A tariff is when the
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President of the United States says, if you want to
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undercut the wages of American workers, if you want to
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ship American jobs overseas, you're going to pay a big
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fat penalty when you try to bring that stuff back
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into the United States of America. Those penalties have generated
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a lot of revenues. They've helped us pay down debt.
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What the president is just saying is if you keep
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it going to the American people, if you keep us
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in power and allow us to continue to do these things,
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then you're going to share in some of the benefit
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of this incredible wealth that we're creating in the United
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States of America. I don't think it's a controversial idea.
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It's actually the president of the United States saying we're
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all working together. We're all on the same team. And
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if we continue to create wealth, that wealth is going
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to go back to the American people.
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Yeah, and what you're basically seeing there is J.D. Vance's
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spin on it, right? He's trying to sell the idea
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that there's already been such prosperity, and if you want
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it to continue, that's the prosperity from which we will
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draw the $ 5, 000 per American. It's absurd, right? We know
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that there is no prosperity. In fact, if you want
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to talk about a spend, you're spending all of our
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money right now on an illegal war. on a war
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of choice in the Middle East. This is a crew
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that wants a trillion and a half dollars for a
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military that is hip deep in disorganized chaos, getting rid
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of people who are women, people of color. There is
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an absurdity to the idea somehow that there's such great
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prosperity in America and The way in which Donald Trump
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talks about the fact that, you know, we're respected now,
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respected now. I just told you the story earlier in
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the week about how Holland is pulling all their gold
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out of the United States. There was another story today,
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how treasury bonds are being unloaded and foreign governments are saying,
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we just feel like we're over leveraged with US treasury bonds.
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This is increasingly a country, the United States, and Trump
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has done it in a very short time, that's got
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10-foot pole marks all over it. I mean, people just
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don't want to get near it in foreign governments that
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are now finding new ways to build coalitions, defense, economic coalitions.
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I'm talking about a NATO, perhaps, realliance, the G20, maybe even, again,
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an organization within NATO. That is finding ways to engineer
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life without depending on an undependable partner. That's the United States.
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An impulsive, chaotic president who they can't count on. But man,
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it was a Trump fest last night. And that's the
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way I see it. But man, if you want some praise,
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it was not in short supply. Play me Scott Besant.
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I thought Scott Besant needs to kind of workshop this
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speech a little bit more. It was a little bit too, uh, wah, wah, wah.
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It's cut 13. We've gone from auto pen to overdrive. Oh,
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I get it.
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From a president who couldn't stay awake to a president
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who refuses to sleep.
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We've gone. Uh, that's Scott Besant. The, uh, crazy, I
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have one more Trump cut in a moment and it's,
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it speaks to what I was talking about, the bizarre
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way in which he endorses Ken Paxton. You'll get to
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it in a second. But the craziest, uh, stump speech
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of the night that I saw was from Tim Scott.
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As you know, Tim Scott just crawls so far up
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Donald Trump's rear and He is out there swinging his
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arms and speaking his truth, I guess. It's cut 15.
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And if you think this.
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Group is really bad, this midterm, we face the most dangerous, radical,
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and frankly, weird Democrat candidates in American history.
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I mean, if it were performance of any kind, I
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would say performance.
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I love what you're doing. Can you, let's try one.
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Let's just take it back 50%. Okay. Just take it
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back a full 50%. The other thing I would say
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from a substantive standpoint is it really bums me out
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where we are now. This hyper-partisan environment that is, they
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hate this. They talk about the Democrats in this way
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that suggests they're intruders. You know, they're somehow the Democrats
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are the big obstacle for having the world the way
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they want it. And I understand on some level you
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could say, well, that's true. From a policy standpoint and
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from a philosophy standpoint, okay. But the way that the
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Democrats are demonized with rhetoric like that, I mean, that rhetoric,
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if you throw German into it, it's basically a Hitlerian speech.
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I mean, go back and actually watch with... subtitles, a
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lot of the old Third Reich speeches. It's that kind
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of thing. And the passion, and you can talk about
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the passion. I mean, he is, he's spitting hate. So
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that's the thing that substantively bothers me. Now, I think
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it's a joke. I mean, but again, to me, like
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who can take this seriously? But I mean, apparently the
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crowd lapsed that up. And finally, I leave you with
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this in chunk of Trump. It is wild to watch
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the weird way in which Donald Trump endorses Ken Paxton.
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So he really wants Ken Paxton to win, and Tallarico
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is a brilliant candidate in Texas. And Paxton is horribly corrupt.
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He is a real problem candidate. I'll remind you that
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eight people in his office came forward in just one
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incident and resigned and blew the whistle on corruption. in
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his office. So that's just one thing. A lot of
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the stuff we know, just as an aside, came out
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in his divorce. And once the divorce started, his wife
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at the time, soon to be ex-wife then, she just
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spilled the tea. So that's how we know a lot
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of this corruption stuff. But as I say, eight people
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in his office came forward. It's not like we didn't
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know anything. Anyway, back to the endorsement that Trump makes.
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So Paxton I guess Trump doesn't like the way he looks,
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and he always prefaces— Image is hideous. He prefaces the
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endorsement of Paxton always. I can't find any time that
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he endorses Paxton without this preamble about, I know he
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doesn't look great, I know his suits are bad, but
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you have to look past that. He's got a weird face.
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I mean, it's crazy. Here is one example, Trump endorsing Paxton.
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And I have to say this about Ken.
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It's so insulting.
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You know, I hope he doesn't get insulted.
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They said, sure, you can't say that.
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I said, I have to.
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They didn't even put it on the teleprompter, but I
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don't use the teleprompter that much.
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They said, sure, you can't say it.
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You just please.
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It's not good. But I said it once before and
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he went through the roof.
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I got to say it again.
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So they just said how wonderful he is and how
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we have to, but I said it a little differently
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because the fact is that some may not.
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Like the way he dresses.
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I don't.
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Although tonight he looked very spiffy in his blue suit,
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I must tell you.
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But they may not like the way he talks.
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I can see that, you know, not everybody.
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A lot of people don't like the way I talk either,
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but we do get crowds.
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There's no question.
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And then they say, you can't say this, sir. That's
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so insulting. Please, sir. These are my analysts that get
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a lot of money for telling me a lot of nonsense. Sir,
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please don't say. So I talked about dress. I talked
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about talk.
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And I even said this.
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You know, some people don't like the way I look either.
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You may not like the way he looks.
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But here's the news.
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In the history of Texas, he is the single greatest
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attorney general you've ever had.
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That's utterly ridiculous. But I love the ramp up to...
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his endorsement, which is just filled with all of this
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stuff that clearly bothers Trump. You know, it doesn't dress well,
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doesn't look good. You know, it doesn't talk the right way.
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I mean, clearly Trump who really responds to those things
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that are most superficial. He hates Paxton to the core,
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it would seem, but he knows he needs Paxton, so
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he talks about he's the best attorney general, even though,
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as I've described, his attorney generalship has been fraught with
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all kinds of issues involving criminality and corruption. I have
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more from that Trumpapalooza event. involving Fetterman and a lot
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more than some reaction from Democrats. But for now, that
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is your chunk of Trump.
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That's it for this edition.
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Well, I really enjoyed it.
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But make sure to join us again next time.
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I think you might want to listen.
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There's nothing wrong with listening.
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For another chunk of Trump.
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The Mark Thompson Show.
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You know who showed up at that convention last night
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via video? Was, uh, was John Fetterman.
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What?
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Yeah, the Pennsylvania senator. He was in a video that
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ran and, uh, It was not, as you can imagine,
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particularly well received by Democrats who feel probably accurately that
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this guy, we helped get him elected. And then he
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had this stroke and he had mental health issues. Depression
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was something that hospitalized him for a time. And since
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all of that, he's come out and he's essentially been
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very GOP-ish. And so... to see him show up at
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this GOP convention before the midterms on this video was
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like a cold slap in the face. So Madeline Dean,
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who's a congressperson from Pennsylvania, right, that's the Fetterman state,
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she responded to his presence, even via video, last night
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at that mini convention. It's cut four.
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In terms of Senator Fetterman, I know, and I like
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John Fetterman, but he lost me last night with that stunt. He,
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like me, should be talking about how do we make
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life more affordable for Americans? How do we make sure
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that the gas prices go down as a result of
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ending this reckless, chaotic, incoherent war? How do we end
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the trade war with Canada and other allies? Everything that
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this administration touches has made life more expensive, less affordable,
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cost of living, whether it's gas, groceries, utilities, housing, you
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name it, is through the roof. So we're here to
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point out the farce, uh, the farcical. And obviously it's,
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you heard just some of the words of the president
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last night.
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Uh, they are weak.
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They recognize they are losing to the point where he's
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going to try to bribe people to vote, uh, for Republicans.
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It's not going to work.
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And I want to get to some of the comments.
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It likely, uh, won't work. Um, as I say, it
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was a Hail Mary pass the $ 5, 000 pitch, but, uh,
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I put it alongside all the other promises, the Doge checks,
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the tariff checks, everything we were going to get. But
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Trump keeps serving it up, and as long as some
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portion of the electorate elapses it up, maybe it's still
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a good play. I think there's no horsepower left in
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that engine, but he keeps trying to start it. I
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would say that the Fetterman thing is perplexing. It feels
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like he's been bought and paid for, and the fact
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that he was at that convention, there's a tokenism to it.
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So it was just a weird, there were a couple
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of other people and then I'll move on from this
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convention thing. But I thought, what do you have up
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in the gate, Albert? This guy's really good. But this
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is about, I think this is about, I want to
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say it's about Hegseth. Isn't that what this is? Yeah,
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I think it is. So before I get to that,
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I wanted to just mention that Adam Carolla was at
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the convention. I know, he's everybody's working man pal. You know,
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Adam is funny, and it's hard not to like funny,
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and he also sort of makes these common sense type
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judgments about things, like, you know, how come it takes
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so long to build this in California? He's very informed
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by the frustration one feels in California when you try
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to build something, particularly at the beach, Now you're trying
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to build back after Malibu and the fires. And it's very,
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very difficult, given all of the restrictions, environmental and others,
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to build back quickly. And so that's really informed a
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lot of what Corolla is about. But one of the things— well,
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I'll play this first from Adam. It's cut in nine,
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and he kind of speaks to this. Just too many
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rules on things. And again, it sounds common sense, but
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then he— He doubles back in the next cut. So
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we'll start with this one. Cut nine, please.
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And there's no rebuilding because of overburdensome regulations and red
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tape and building codes.
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Too many rules. Too many rules.
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And I think if you want to encapsulate it, you
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can just picture the sign that used to be the
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beach in Southern California. When you walked onto that sand
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50 years ago, it just said no bonfires. And now
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it says no fireworks and now no alcohol and no
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dogs and.
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No smoking and no Frisbee and no fun. And then
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they close it for COVID. The point is, is they
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never take anything off the sign. They just add a
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new rule onto the sign until you have no freedom
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at all.
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So that's the, and he waits for applause. Okay, so
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I get it. That's the, and again, that's very much
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informed by his desire to build in areas that are,
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to be fair, really encumbered by all this stuff and
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all these regulations. In California, it's very difficult to build
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by the coast, but Here's where Carolla, I just think, sadly,
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falls into this lazy kind of name-calling thing that is
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very much part of what the GOP and the right
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is doing right now. It's cut, what is it, eight, please.
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Tonight with a land acknowledgement.
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This is the greatest land in the history of mankind.
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And if that bothers.
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You, you, your communist.
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And hippie buddies should get the.
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Hell off it.
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And so that sounds really good. And there's a nationalism
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and a pride that starts with this is the best
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country ever, the best system ever, we're the best people ever, whatever.
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There's a, I get what's going on there. But again,
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you and your communist, hippie friends should just, I mean, communist,
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hippie friends? Is this 1968 all over again? The laziness
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of that, the name-calling, it's not even name-calling from today.
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It's name-calling from 1968. Again, they've dusted off this commie thing. And,
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you know, if you actually look at who is the communist,
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that is to say, who is taking over the means
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of production, the government, taking over means of production. In
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this case, technologies would be means of production. You look
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at the way that Donald Trump has bellied up to
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the bar, taken a big piece of intel. I mean,
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you can build, Google it, the list of companies that
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our government now has a piece of. I mean, that
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is communist. That is communism taking over private industry. That
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is what a communist regime is about. So I'm just saying,
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on the merits, it's a bad thing.
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Bust.
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But it's also just lazy. And hippie? Your communist hippie pal?
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And I almost wondered, because Adam is so funny. I'm thinking,
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is that a joke? Your commie hippie pals can go home? It's, again,
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it's from another world, and it seems to just marshal
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this kind of resentment, but in sort of a clunky way.
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I'm really surprised, because I think Adam is very funny.
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But man, I feel as though this commie hippie thing. Uh,
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you know, you can just go live somewhere else. You
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commie hippies. I feel as though that really just, um,
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misses the mark. Uh, and before I move on, Kim
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very much recommended a cut. I know we've got a
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lot of cuts of video cuts today, but I just
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wanted to get to as many as I could. Um,
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very much recommended something from Hillary Clinton. I haven't seen
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this yet, but Kim really likes it. So, um, You
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remember Hillary Clinton? Does everybody remember who Hillary Clinton is? Yeah,
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I just want to just.
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OK.
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All right. Doesn't need any setup is my point. OK,
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here's Hillary Clinton. And that's cut 14.
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Time that Article five, the NATO charter was enacted, was
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to help the United States after those terror attacks. And
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as secretary of state, you surely know the importance of alliances.
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And we're seeing them straining now. Trade war with Canada,
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the trade war in Europe, the. ventures on Greenland, you know,
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of leaving Europe to largely stand up with Ukraine alone.
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The list sort of goes on and on. President Biden
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was fond of telling a story that when he won
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that he said, you know, America's back. And French President
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Macron said, for how long? That has now been tested
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even more so because of Trump's return. Do you think
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whoever the next president is, can these alliances actually be saved?
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Can America be trusted again?
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Well, the first question is, can they be saved? That's
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going to take a heck of a lot of work.
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I think it's doable. Can we be trusted again? We
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have to prove, you know, prove it.
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Yeah.
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You know, and and we have to get to the trust,
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but verify and then get beyond it. I think, Jonathan,
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that it is doable. Look, right now, we're not a
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serious country. We're a dangerous country. We're causing all kinds
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of problems in the world. We're making ridiculous, you know, stands.
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We're picking things. with our best friends. We're threatening our
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best friends. We're giving passes to those who wish us ill.
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I mean, we are not a serious country and we
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don't have serious leadership. If we do again, I think
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we can actually make progress. I remember when, you know,
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then President-elect Obama was trying to persuade me to be
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Secretary of State. He said, look, I have a financial crisis,
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which is the worst since the Great Depression. And we
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have fractured a lot of our alliances because of Iraq
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and Afghanistan. and the axis of evil and all of that.
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And he said, I can't do both. So I need
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to focus on the economy. I want you to be
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secretary of state and get on a plane and go
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around and try to start reassuring. And that was primarily
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in Asia because, you know, ever.
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Well, I traveled everywhere. I did.
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And we needed to. And it wasn't enough to do
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a Zoom. We didn't have Zooms back then, but a
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video conference.
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Send a fax.
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Yeah.
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You know, we had to show up and we had
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to look people in the eye and say, you know,
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what can America do for you? How can America be
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your partner? How can we, you know, forge a better future?
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And we did it and we worked hard at it.
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And we also produced, you know, some positive results that
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were then torn up, whether it was, you know, the
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the Iran nuclear deal, which wasn't perfect.
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I said it at the time.
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But by God, it was a great experience. foundation for
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then going after ballistic missiles and, you know, bad behavior
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in the neighborhood and all the rest of it.
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We had the Paris Accord.
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You know, climate change hasn't gone away just because, you know,
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Donald Trump wishes it away. We actually did things. And
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part of the challenge now is to rebuild enough trust
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that we can start to work together. So if you
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look at Europe right now, Europe has to get its
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act together and it's very difficult for it to do so.
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And I think the Nordic countries, the Baltic countries, Poland
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and others are right to be worried about Russia. I
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think they have every reason to be. If your father
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were here, he'd be sounding the alarm as loudly.
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As he could.
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And so they can't do this by themselves, in part
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because we have capabilities they don't. But we also provide
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the glue that gets everybody in that room to figure
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out how we can work together.
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So.
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Look, it's hard work.
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It's, you know, the hard boring of hard boards, as
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Max Weber used to say about politics.
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It's going to be hard.
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But if we get the right president, but we shouldn't
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wait till then. If we win the midterms, what I
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have urged is that the House and the Senate begin
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to pass legislation and look for bipartisanship on a lot
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of legislation. You know, I can't imagine that the Republican
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governors and senators and House members in our states that
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border Canada, and there are a bunch of them, are
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happy about what's going to happen to their economies. So
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there is the, you know, they're the seeds of bipartisanship.
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And I think a lot of members of Congress who, frankly,
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know better, but have been intimidated and and gone along
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with Trump will be relieved. So the right leadership in
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the Congress, the right leadership in the White House, it'll
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take time, but I think we can rebuild.
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Well, well, there you go.
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And that was just a really coherent summary of where
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we are. I think she states it so beautifully, frankly,
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when she talks about the fact that we're not a
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serious country. And by the way, I saw a comment
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in there that she was saying that we're the— it was
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about dangerous. No, we're not the most dangerous country, says Red. Yeah, no,
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she didn't say we're the most dangerous. She said we're
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now— she was talking about America's power and speaking to the
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fact that, you know, America is still incredibly relevant and
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America is still dangerous, meaning our power can be flexed
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in all the ways that we've seen it flexed. And
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that does make us a dangerous— she didn't say the most
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dangerous country. I thought she made a good point from
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the standpoint of, you know, you can feel that power
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if you're Donald Trump. And I think that's what she
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was saying. He's kind of done. Thank you, Red. And
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I love you, Mark, from Ohio. But what I do
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think is that when you run into someone like Hillary Clinton,
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who has a considered– and complete view of things. And
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you couldn't view her in all of these different ways, uh,
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that I, that I can just hear, uh, this, uh,
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sort of, um, she, you know, uh, the bought and
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paid for institutional Democrat. I mean, right now I feel
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like she's much closer to magnetic north on America than
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this crew is. And this crew is really filled with
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incompetence who at best look good, like a Pete Hegseth,
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but have no idea what they're doing. And you've got
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a president who, you know, has us in real big trouble.
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But it was interesting to hear from a secretary of state.
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I mean, she really understands these alliances and relationships, what
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the future might be and what it needs to be
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and how it might be a big lift, but it
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can happen.
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All right.
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I'm going to get to David Katz in a moment.
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I am going to, um, because I live out loud
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with all of you, I will tell you this, um, Normally,
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Albert will back me up on this. Albert, thank you.
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I don't take any breaks at all through the show.
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There are no bathroom breaks or anything typical. But if
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you need to go to the bathroom, it's fine. We
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just don't normally take it. But today, I need to
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take a break, and I have a broken ankle. So
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it takes me longer to get to the restrooms. And
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so you'll spare me. We can play a sweeper or
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Kim can do a Coachella Valley spot, remind us of
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our partners and sponsor, Coachella Valley Coffee. And then I
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will be back in short order and we'll get to
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cracking with David Katz. Meantime, please smash the like button
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if you would.
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Smash it with your iron rod.
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We worked hard to bring you a lot of clips today,
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a lot of clips of GOP viewpoints, a lot of
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clips of Democratic viewpoints as well. And I appreciate the
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thumbs up and any comments you have, the back and
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forth I always love. And so as we all wait
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for our $ 5, 000 checks that will be coming after the midterms,
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and of course the way the price of gas will
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go down to $ 2 a gallon after the midterms, we
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can rejoice and smash.
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Smash it with your iron rod.
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Yeah, smash at the same time. So thank you. Mark
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Thompson Show. The Mark Thompson Show. Do I play a
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sweeper here or does Kim do her? Okay. You'll do that.
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And I'll play the sweeper.
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Okay. Good deal. I might be back in time. All right.
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Okay.
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Well, good, because we have David Katz waiting in the wings.
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But before we get to David Katz and ask him
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whether it is legal to pay off voters with a
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let us know what you think as well our email
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address is the mark thompson show at gmail.com and then
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of course it is coachella valley coffee.com is the website
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and the checkout code is mark.
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T The Mark Thompson Show.
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Who's Mark Thompson?
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Feels great, baby.
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Let me kick down the door and talk to my
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cheap sons and daughters.
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No context will suffice to explain the hurt and anguish
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caused by my words. I apologize to all who have been.
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Hurt, I stand corrected.
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I misspoke.
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My words upset so many people.
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And I wanted to apologize to the Asian community, the
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Asian American community.
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God bless America.
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The end.
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There's never been anything like this. Do I hit it long?
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Is Trump strong?
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Who is having that conversation? is fantastic.
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That's not fake.
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That's real.
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The science is ridiculous.
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Listen to me.
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I don't want to hear you.
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You cannot say you love your country.
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Where are my weed smokers at?
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This is a word from the Lord, and he's not happy.
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There is no defense for my conduct.
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It was wrong, it was stupid, and I'm trying to.
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Be a better person.
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Don't ever use that word.
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You get nothing!
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What's a guilty pleasure here, though?
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Seriously, what the f.
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I love it. Thank you for that little interlude. And now,
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without any further delay, I want to welcome into our
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midst someone who is one of the great legal analysts
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in the English-speaking world. He is here on Thursday. So
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thank you to our Patreon and PayPal supporters. You saw
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it there. You can click to either and be part
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of our community that supports independent media. And a couple
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of you have even... jutted us notes and wanted to
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send us checks, you can do that at themarkthompsonshowatgmail.com, themarkthompsonshowatgmail.com,
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and I'll send you back the address. You can send that. Anyway,
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as I was saying, he's one of the great legal
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analysts in the English-speaking world, and you can find him
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here on Thursdays, generous with his time, the former federal prosecutor,
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now defense attorney in California. He is David Katz, everyone. Hello, sir.
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Great to be with you, Mark. Mark. Mark, are you
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going to have me followed again by the comedian who
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points out to your audience that I am not only
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a much younger but better-looking version of Mel Brooks?
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I never had seen that in you before. And then
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after he pointed it out, I thought, oh, my God.
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Did you see the picture he posted? Albert found a picture,
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I think.
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I like the first one, not the second.
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One so much.
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I agree with you. I agree. I agree.
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I agree.
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But to be fair, this is a guy who is,
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in Mel Brooks, I think easily 35 years older than
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you are.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. All right. Yeah, there is. I don't think
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that even that, I don't think it's quite. There was
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another picture that looked really spot on.
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But for Halloween, Halloween, I'm going to wear a black
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shirt and a white jacket like that and a tie
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that looks somewhat. And I will come as Mel Brooks,
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who's not my dad. You know, I got this at
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a party one time, but the person who stumbled into
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me and started to say that was very drunk, which
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is not a defense your comedian has. I don't think
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he was actually very funny. And you pointed out that
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I'm a swimmer and I swim five miles a day. Uh,
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not every day, uh, but I do take a log
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swim and it keeps you in great health. Yeah.
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You really, you've got, uh, you've got a, an athlete.
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Everybody is younger than Mel Brooks.
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You've got an athlete's presence.
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There's a guy in Japan. There's a guy in Japan,
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probably not younger than Mel Brooks.
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Uh, I've got so much to get to today and
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I've got Greg Palast waiting. So here's what I want
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to do just to tell Tim, uh, Kim, I've already
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sent or asked that, uh, Palace be told that we're
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running a few minutes behind, so I just want to
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let you know that that is the case. We can
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get to some stuff with Counselor Katz. David Katz, as
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a great legal analyst, people were on me to ask you,
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and I think I've kind of already explained how they
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could get around it being this, how the $ 5, 000 check
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is that was offered by Trump if the Republicans win
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both the Senate and House at midterms, how that check
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that he promised would then be sent to all adults
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in America, how that isn't a bribe for a vote.
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Can you take this question?
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Well, now that the U.S. Supreme Court has given him
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that monstrous presidential immunity ruling, it's really hard to imagine
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what he can't do. And there's also the idea of
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a self-pardon for himself or some game where he steps
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aside for two hours while he's getting surgery and Vance
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then as the acting president pardons him. So the reality
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is that you can't expect that he's going to be
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held to some legal standard where he gets thrown in
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prison like somebody else would because the conduct constitutes all
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the elements of bribery. I suppose his defense, you know,
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I am a criminal defense attorney. And, you know, I
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always thought that Trump might be my client, not my president.
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But then what happened happened. But, you know, as a client,
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I guess Trump would be advised that you could probably
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get away with it. You know, Musk got very close
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to the line in giving a bribe in Wisconsin.
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Musk might have gotten closer, don't you think?
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Yeah, he got closer and they eventually declined prosecution of him,
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I understand. And I don't know if Trump had advice
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of counsel. I'm sure Musk, with all of his money,
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had advice of counsel, how he could just skirt the
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law up in Wisconsin. But anyway, Trump would say that
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what I mean is that the economy will be so
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much better that you'll all have $ 5, 000 more in your pocket,
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but only if the Republicans win. Of course, ignoring the
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history that in the last two years under Trump, all
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the people, Democrats and Republicans, have less money in their pocket,
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almost without exception, because His tariff policies have raised prices.
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His idiotic war going nowhere in Iran have, of course,
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boosted oil prices, the gas pump, everything. So we all
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have a lot less money in our pocket, thanks to him.
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And anyone who believes that they'll have more money in
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their pocket if Trump and the Republicans win the midterms,
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what's he saying? What would Mel Brooks say? I have
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a Bridget book that I'd like to sell you.
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Yeah, I... I think there are a lot of ways
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to spin it where it doesn't end up being a bribe,
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even though it clearly was in that general arena of
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a bribe. The Supreme Court, with an interesting decision, David Katz,
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there was a redistricting that was to give the GOP
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another congressional seat in Missouri, but the Supreme Court saying that...
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you can't use that Republican-friendly map. You have to go
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back to a map that isn't as Republican-friendly and may
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cost them that seat.
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Well, you know, I try to predict the U.S. Supreme Court,
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and I've done remarkably well at it, sometimes enraging your audience,
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because I predict what they're going to do, not what
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we would like them to do. I had a good
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feeling that they were going to do this. There is
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a sense that they don't want to be as this
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source of chaos. They would have been seen as an
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absolutely a source of chaos if they had ruled the
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other way. It's a little bit inside baseball, but it's
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very important what happened in Missouri. Basically, there was a
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primary that was done without getting consent from the voters
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on the redistricting. The attorney general, I guess, of the
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state said that that question does not have to be
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submitted to the voters of Missouri. It's not proper for
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a referendum. It turns out that the Missouri Supreme Court
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recently said, no, it was proper for a referendum. It
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had to be decided by a referendum. The state never
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00:56:46.130 --> 00:56:49.610
did a referendum, and therefore that redistricting is no good
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until there's a redistricting of vote by referendum. That obviously
989
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cannot happen before the early November elections. So that means
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that there was a primary that was done, thanks to
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the state of Missouri, on different rules than the election
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is going to be done in November. The U.S. Supreme
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Court said, we are not getting in the middle of that.
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We are not going to stop the order of the
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Missouri Supreme Court. That's what they said as to state law.
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I want all of your viewers to remember and argue
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with anyone who says otherwise. that voting, even federal voting,
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00:57:22.139 --> 00:57:25.800
even voting in federal presidential elections, is by state law.
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00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:29.429
Voting is a creature of state law, so designated and
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allocated by the Constitution. So they voted 9-0. That's how
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they should vote in questions like this. It was an emergency,
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you know, the shadow docket, but the shadow docket came
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out just right this time. And by having the nine
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00:57:43.969 --> 00:57:47.039
votes behind it, no dissenting opinions, it was like, don't
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00:57:47.059 --> 00:57:50.159
mess around, just do this. Now, The anomaly is going
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00:57:50.179 --> 00:57:52.219
to be how do you have a primary under one
1007
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:55.099
system and now you're going to have a general election
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vote under another? They can solve that. You know, smart lawyers,
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00:57:58.630 --> 00:58:01.170
smart people can go to court in Missouri and they
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can solve that. And if it's a matter of the
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00:58:03.570 --> 00:58:09.670
Missouri system, Secretary of State, sending out ballots. They can
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00:58:09.730 --> 00:58:12.429
revise the ballots. If some ballots have already gone out,
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00:58:12.570 --> 00:58:15.239
obviously you spend money from your state budget to comply
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with the law. You send out in a week or
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10 days a proper ballot. But the real issue is
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00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:23.079
whether they cut a Democrat from Kansas City out of
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00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:25.639
his seat in Congress or not. And that's what they
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00:58:25.699 --> 00:58:29.420
lost between the Missouri Supreme Court, even though it's a
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00:58:29.460 --> 00:58:34.050
Republican state, and the U.S. Supreme Court. That Democrat in
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00:58:34.110 --> 00:58:36.989
Kansas City will retain his seat. There's only six seats
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00:58:37.070 --> 00:58:39.769
that the Republicans can win in Missouri. They hoped that
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00:58:39.789 --> 00:58:42.309
they could win that seventh seat. That was the whole
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00:58:42.389 --> 00:58:45.530
purpose of the redistricting. And last thing, Missouri now is
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00:58:45.670 --> 00:58:47.929
one of those southern states, there's about seven or eight
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of them, that have actually redistricted. Remember, Trump lit that candle.
1026
00:58:52.429 --> 00:58:55.590
He lit that fuse. He started Texas going. We very
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00:58:55.650 --> 00:59:00.909
wisely in California did not unilaterally disarm. We redistricted to
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00:59:00.980 --> 00:59:06.280
counteract only for certain number of years, what Texas did.
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And then Trump kept playing that game. Indiana would go
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along with Trump, thank goodness for the good Republicans of Indiana.
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00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:17.579
But a lot of states caved in and they redistricted too.
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00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:19.929
So they think that when it all shakes out with
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00:59:19.989 --> 00:59:23.190
what California did with this ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court,
1034
00:59:23.829 --> 00:59:26.750
that it'll be about where it started when Trump started
1035
00:59:26.769 --> 00:59:30.340
this havoc And since he's so unpopular, uh, the house will,
1036
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:33.000
I think very clearly, I'll put it, go out on
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00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:35.260
a big limb. The house will go democratic.
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Okay. Well, uh, there's a lot of talk about the
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vote and, and it's for obvious reasons. Uh, even, you know, Trump, uh,
1040
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:47.539
had that whole Trumpapalooza event. I think there's another night
1041
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:50.159
of it tonight where he's speaking again and he's offering
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00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:52.380
money and he, you know, and telling you how horrible
1043
00:59:52.420 --> 00:59:55.420
the Democrats, the crazy commies, uh, the hippies are going
1044
00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:58.960
to be. Um, And it's for a good reason. Obviously,
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00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:01.519
this is a critical midterm election. But I guess I'm
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01:00:01.539 --> 01:00:04.920
trying to explain to the audience, we will focus a
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01:00:04.940 --> 01:00:07.210
lot on the election in the next few minutes because
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01:00:07.250 --> 01:00:09.349
I think that we have Greg Palast coming on. There
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01:00:09.369 --> 01:00:11.230
are a lot of different ways in which one can
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01:00:11.250 --> 01:00:15.150
manipulate the outcome to these elections. And I'd say there
1051
01:00:15.170 --> 01:00:16.880
are a lot of ways to suppress the vote. And
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01:00:16.900 --> 01:00:20.280
it's sort of in that latter category that I bring
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01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:24.300
this to you, Counselor Katz. the lawsuit that is seeking
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01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:28.099
to block deployment of ICE and federal agents to polling sites.
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01:00:28.139 --> 01:00:30.960
As you know, this Mark Wayne Mullen guy who now
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01:00:31.059 --> 01:00:38.369
runs DHS, he took over after Kristi Noem, he's saying, hey,
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01:00:38.690 --> 01:00:42.130
we're not going to send ICE to polling places unless
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01:00:42.570 --> 01:00:45.869
there's a reason to. We believe that maybe someone who
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01:00:45.909 --> 01:00:49.030
shouldn't be voting is. There may be someone with an
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01:00:49.050 --> 01:00:51.800
outstanding warrant there. In other words... He's going to send
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01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:55.260
ICE agents and have an ICE presence at many of
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01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:58.010
these polling sites. So now this coalition of advocacy groups
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01:00:58.070 --> 01:01:02.969
in a Democratic-led city filing a preemptive lawsuit trying to
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01:01:03.110 --> 01:01:09.239
block that plan to deploy armed immigration and customs enforcement
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01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:12.739
agents to polling sites ahead of the midterm election. So
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01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:17.110
the lawsuit is asking... that the federal district court in Washington, D.C.
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01:01:17.570 --> 01:01:21.320
declare unlawful any plans to have armed agents at polling
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01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:26.340
places and to prohibit federal officers from carrying weapons near
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01:01:26.420 --> 01:01:29.860
voting locations or any other sites where votes are collected.
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Speak to the possibility of this actually being a successful lawsuit.
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Without knowing who the judge is who's assigned to the case,
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01:01:38.369 --> 01:01:42.190
that does sometimes matter. Of course, I'm not naïve. But
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01:01:42.230 --> 01:01:44.530
without knowing that, I think this lawsuit has a good
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01:01:44.590 --> 01:01:47.090
chance of succeeding. I think that they will get an
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01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:50.519
injunction which will say that you can only send ICE
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01:01:50.659 --> 01:01:54.280
agents to polling places under certain conditions. I think that
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01:01:54.320 --> 01:01:58.989
will chill excesses by ICE. We talked about the fact
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01:01:59.010 --> 01:02:01.969
that U.S. attorneys are supposed to, assistant U.S. attorneys are
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01:02:01.989 --> 01:02:04.699
supposed to go out there. I can't imagine even with
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01:02:04.739 --> 01:02:09.489
this Trumpy assistant U.S. attorneys that they may be hiring
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01:02:09.550 --> 01:02:12.869
more of. I can't imagine that many assistant U.S. attorneys
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01:02:13.170 --> 01:02:15.309
are interested in being part of that. And they wouldn't
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01:02:15.349 --> 01:02:18.110
go out there armed anyway, you know, when federal prosecutors
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01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:21.860
don't carry guns, I guess, except in certain circumstances, maybe
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01:02:21.900 --> 01:02:24.519
with threats or if they're trained. But so I'm not
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01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:27.000
that worried about the ICE agents, Mark. I think that
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01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:31.170
we've survived that likely storm. And if they're out there,
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01:02:31.989 --> 01:02:33.949
one thing that's going to chill them, I think, besides
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01:02:33.969 --> 01:02:37.730
the judge's order setting very clear parameters, is I think
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01:02:37.769 --> 01:02:40.320
that a lot of the swing districts and swing states
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01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:44.639
are democratic or they're kind of institutional. And so they
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01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:46.659
won't go along with that. If they show up at
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01:02:46.699 --> 01:02:50.360
a polling place in California, I expect that there'll be
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01:02:50.420 --> 01:02:55.130
sheriffs or police or people from the state attorney general's
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01:02:55.210 --> 01:02:57.630
office who will go out there, maybe with armed people,
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01:02:57.929 --> 01:03:00.010
to counteract them and see what they're doing. And this
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01:03:00.090 --> 01:03:02.809
idea they're going to execute a warrant, that's sort of unbelievable.
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01:03:03.090 --> 01:03:06.360
We heard that, you know, Jose Jimenez is online waiting
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01:03:06.409 --> 01:03:10.019
to vote and there's a warrant for a traffic violation
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01:03:10.059 --> 01:03:11.940
of his, so we're going to go arrest him while
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01:03:11.980 --> 01:03:15.699
he's online to vote. That seems like a totally made
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01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:18.440
up thing, like the unless language that you just used.
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01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:21.480
So I just don't think that's going to be a
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01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:24.199
major problem. I think it's more to deter people and
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01:03:24.260 --> 01:03:26.210
no one should be deterred. If you don't have a
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01:03:26.250 --> 01:03:28.780
right to vote in a federal election, Don't vote, for
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01:03:28.820 --> 01:03:30.760
God's sake. If you do have a right to vote
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01:03:30.780 --> 01:03:33.559
in the federal election, turn out and vote. Let every
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01:03:33.719 --> 01:03:37.780
voice be counted. Let every vote be counted. Don't be intimidated.
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01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:39.539
I think this is more of a rhetorical thing. I
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01:03:39.559 --> 01:03:41.519
think it's good we're talking about it, but no one
1112
01:03:41.539 --> 01:03:44.039
should take from this rhetoric or rhetoric on Fox or
1113
01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:47.059
anything else like that, that they should be deterred from voting,
1114
01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:49.199
because I don't think there will be any kind of
1115
01:03:49.409 --> 01:03:53.869
armed presence stopping anybody from voting. Just about anywhere, maybe
1116
01:03:53.889 --> 01:03:56.789
in Alabama, but Alabama is so red anyway. Why send
1117
01:03:56.849 --> 01:03:58.110
all those people to Alabama?
1118
01:03:58.590 --> 01:04:01.599
Yeah, I don't know. We go round and around on this.
1119
01:04:01.780 --> 01:04:04.239
The thing that strikes me, David Katz, is that you
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01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:10.079
can create enough of a drama around polling places that
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01:04:10.139 --> 01:04:12.400
without knowing even, well, there's nobody there who's armed, so
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01:04:12.420 --> 01:04:15.139
don't worry about it. It's just all too much trouble.
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01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:16.690
I don't want to get, I don't want to get,
1124
01:04:16.730 --> 01:04:19.349
they swoop people up and they put them in vans
1125
01:04:19.369 --> 01:04:20.769
and you don't see them for two months and then
1126
01:04:20.789 --> 01:04:22.449
they release them because they don't really have any reason
1127
01:04:22.469 --> 01:04:24.300
to detain them in the first place. But meanwhile, their
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01:04:24.340 --> 01:04:26.199
life is ruined. I mean, sort of, you end up
1129
01:04:26.460 --> 01:04:28.139
in this place where you go and we've had it
1130
01:04:28.179 --> 01:04:29.929
in the comments. I've seen it. I'm not going to
1131
01:04:29.949 --> 01:04:31.309
go to the polling places. I don't want to have
1132
01:04:31.349 --> 01:04:34.030
anything to do with it. I'm just going to drop
1133
01:04:34.230 --> 01:04:36.170
my ballot off. I've also seen, and which will get
1134
01:04:36.190 --> 01:04:39.289
me to the next question, people say that about mail-in balloting.
1135
01:04:39.329 --> 01:04:40.489
They're saying, I don't want anything to do with the
1136
01:04:40.510 --> 01:04:43.090
mail-in balloting. And this is, again, that's the chaos and
1137
01:04:43.110 --> 01:04:47.269
the doubt that Trump and his cronies have sown around
1138
01:04:47.409 --> 01:04:51.619
mail-in balloting. And again, there's no inconsistencies. There are no
1139
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:55.360
problems with mail-in balloting, but they have made such a
1140
01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:57.900
big stink about it, even though Trump, of course, himself
1141
01:04:57.940 --> 01:05:01.280
has voted by mail the last four elections, that there
1142
01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:03.829
are questions now that even show up. My audience is
1143
01:05:03.869 --> 01:05:05.949
a smart crew, and they're going, eh, I'm not even
1144
01:05:05.969 --> 01:05:07.690
going to mess with it because who knows how the
1145
01:05:07.769 --> 01:05:09.530
post office is going to mess with my ballot.
1146
01:05:09.949 --> 01:05:12.739
Let's talk about the post office in one second, but
1147
01:05:12.820 --> 01:05:16.139
this thing about this would be people in line. waiting,
1148
01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:20.000
worried about waiting in line and then suddenly seeing a
1149
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:23.480
mass of armed people with ice jackets coming around. And
1150
01:05:24.099 --> 01:05:28.079
by definition, those people waiting in line are legally allowed
1151
01:05:28.139 --> 01:05:30.619
to vote. We got rid of this thing that we
1152
01:05:30.659 --> 01:05:33.599
had in California where in some local races at the
1153
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:36.039
election day, you could vote in a local race, even
1154
01:05:36.059 --> 01:05:38.199
though you weren't a citizen of the United States. That
1155
01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:40.599
was going to play right into the right wingers and
1156
01:05:40.619 --> 01:05:43.579
the Fox comment crowd on that So we don't have
1157
01:05:43.619 --> 01:05:45.920
that anymore. And I don't think very many places in
1158
01:05:45.940 --> 01:05:48.409
the country allow anybody who's not a citizen to vote
1159
01:05:48.489 --> 01:05:50.710
on November 3rd. So when you go on November 3rd
1160
01:05:50.750 --> 01:05:53.750
to vote, it's by definition because you're legal, you're allowed
1161
01:05:53.789 --> 01:05:57.349
to vote. Don't be intimidated. Take it from me, really
1162
01:05:57.389 --> 01:06:00.150
and truly, I don't think anything like that is going
1163
01:06:00.170 --> 01:06:02.050
to happen. And I think if it does, someone's going
1164
01:06:02.070 --> 01:06:04.710
to call 911 right away and the cops are going
1165
01:06:04.730 --> 01:06:06.489
to show up and say to these guys, if they
1166
01:06:06.550 --> 01:06:08.710
are there, What the hell are you doing? They'll make
1167
01:06:08.750 --> 01:06:10.389
a record of it. They'll go back to this judge
1168
01:06:10.429 --> 01:06:13.380
in Washington, D.C. and say, Mr. Agent X and Mr.
1169
01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:17.320
Agent Y and their supervisor are violating your order, federal judge.
1170
01:06:17.519 --> 01:06:19.340
I just don't think it's going to be that much
1171
01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:22.019
of a problem on the ground. I think it's more intimidation.
1172
01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:23.050
And don't be intimidated.
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01:06:23.449 --> 01:06:25.989
Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm just getting at the
1174
01:06:26.030 --> 01:06:27.989
fact that they're trying to build a drama around it
1175
01:06:28.090 --> 01:06:31.929
and make that an impediment to turnout. So now to
1176
01:06:31.949 --> 01:06:35.010
the mail-in balloting, because this is just happening. A U.S.
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01:06:35.050 --> 01:06:39.889
appeals court rejecting Trump's bid to impose sweeping restrictions on
1178
01:06:39.949 --> 01:06:45.030
mail-in voting, and the midterm elections won't be informed by
1179
01:06:45.070 --> 01:06:50.139
that restriction. This is a Boston-based First U.S. Circuit Court
1180
01:06:50.420 --> 01:06:54.730
of Appeals. And they declined to put on hold this injunction.
1181
01:06:54.750 --> 01:06:57.989
There's already an injunction by a lower court judge last
1182
01:06:58.070 --> 01:07:01.400
week preventing the U.S. Postal Service from tightening rules around
1183
01:07:01.780 --> 01:07:05.599
postal voting. So this is a win for those who
1184
01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:10.079
want mail-in balloting to remain untouched by this president and
1185
01:07:10.099 --> 01:07:10.920
this administration.
1186
01:07:11.940 --> 01:07:15.840
If somehow Trump remains in power along with his Republicans
1187
01:07:15.969 --> 01:07:19.130
in both houses, we're going to have a disaster of
1188
01:07:19.190 --> 01:07:22.739
this type two years from now. But I think right
1189
01:07:22.800 --> 01:07:25.489
now the time has really run out. It's just too
1190
01:07:25.610 --> 01:07:28.349
short a time. These ballots have to go out. Some
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01:07:28.489 --> 01:07:31.110
ballots have already gone out from some states, like to
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military voters, overseas voters. And I think the U.S. Supreme
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Court's rocket docket... The shadow docket ruling today, I think,
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shows that they have a sense that it's just too
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close to the election. You know, the Department of Justice
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has this rule, I don't know if Trump is respecting it,
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that they don't do political cases or cases with political
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implications less than 60 days before the election. Talk to
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Comey and Hillary Clinton about not taking actions 60 days
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before the election. But I think the Supreme Court understands
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the logic of that, too. And it's even more logical
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here because this would be a screw up for the ages.
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This would be the worst voting disaster in America if
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the post office tried to comply with these rules. First
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of all, they're under an injunction not to formulate these
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rules as things stand right now. Then there's a whistleblower
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who says that the post office and Trump's minions and
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cronies over there are going behind the back of the
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federal judge. And they're preparing this portal anyway. But whatever
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shape the portal is in, it's in terrible shape. And
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the idea that they can actually send out ballots and
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hold back certain ballots and not send out others. This
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is the post office. This is seven weeks before the election.
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And I just want to say this for the U.S.
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Supreme Court. that I didn't think they were in Trump's
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pocket on the ruling a few weeks ago because they
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could have not delayed it five weeks. But by the
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US Supreme Court waiting five weeks to rule on Trump's
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emergency petition, they ran out. It's just from the point
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of view of what happened practically. The clock was run
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out for five weeks that the U.S. Supreme Court could
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have not run out. They could have decided it four
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or five weeks earlier. That has also contributed. If they
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were not going to monkey around with the election this
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close to the election in Missouri, they're not going to
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monkey around with making the post office change over the
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whole way. And that's Trump's only hope now. His only
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hope now is to race to the Supreme Court from
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this appellate court ruling, have the U.S. Supreme Court rule
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by five to four or more that he can monkey
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around with this entire thing and change all the procedures
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at the post office and the post office isn't ready
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and the states will freak out. There'll be injunctions all over.
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The Supreme Court will be doing nothing else But hearing
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these cases between now and November 3rd, they're not going
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to do it, Mark. They're not going to do it.
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This one's going to be okay. Let's win the House
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and the Senate for the Democrats and ward off these plans.
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These are the plans in the work. And, you know,
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the idea is to federalize elections by the fact that
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the feds have controlled the post office and to have
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there be an approved list and to punish the states
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that won't go along with them and invade these voting
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records and create all this havoc. But that's for next.
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That's for two years if the Republicans keep power.
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Indeed. That was very well said. I wanted to just
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visit one thing quickly, and that is the likely, I
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say likely, I mean, this is something that's being talked
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about by Trump. Just yesterday, he said that he would
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consider pardoning Michael Cohen, the former fixer, who he once
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branded a rat. He called him a rat. And, uh,
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you know, cause he was singing like a canary. He
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wrote a book. I read his first book. I didn't
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read the second one, but, uh, Asked my reporter whether
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he would grant Cohen's appeal for presidential clemency, Trump said, quote,
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if everything is checking out, it's something I would consider. So, thought?
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What would be the old expression? To call him a
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rat is an insult to rats everywhere. Michael Cohen, from
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fixer to foe. Yes, some people say it's Shakespearean. One
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of the things with Michael Cohen was that he was
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a guy who, I guess, wanted to land on his
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feet with money after this was all over. And I
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guess he thought maybe he could make money because, remember,
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Trump was not in power then. when they had the
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trial with Stormy Daniels up in New York that he
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testified in, and they're screaming at each other. And Trump
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is saying, how come they can insult me and I
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can't insult them? And the judge is saying, no, you
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can't insult them. You're a party to the lawsuit. All
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that stuff up in New York City. And, you know,
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that was the weakest case. As people will remember, that
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was the weakest of the four cases. Unfortunately, it went first.
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The Mar-a-Lago case, which was probably the best and easiest
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case in federal court, got delayed by the judge down there.
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You know, sort of the concierge judge, the judge that
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Trump likes so much, the one that we called loose cannon.
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And of course, the January 6th one in Washington, D.C.
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got delayed and ultimately stymied by the Supreme Court. So
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this case went first. Michael Cohen was the star of
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that case. He did have incriminating evidence. They had given
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him money and made it look like it was a
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legal fee, and it wasn't. It was paying him back
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for the bribe that he had given to Stormy Daniels
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to keep her mouth shut right before the election. And
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it was, you know, they falsified the records. It was
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a righteous case in that sense that it was legally sufficient,
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but people had trouble understanding it. It seemed kind of technical.
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And so Michael Cohen went against Trump for a while.
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But guess what? Trump got reelected. So a lot of people,
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you know, got the Trump religion again when Trump got reelected.
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And Michael Cohen figured out he couldn't make really big
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money from his podcast or anything else. I still remember
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when he came out of prison and said he wanted
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to be a legal commentator. I told Pat Thurston, Kim,
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you may remember this. Do not replace me with Michael
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Cohen for legal commentary. Well, Pat and Kim didn't. You
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didn't ask Michael Code to be on your show regularly.
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You asked me, Mark. Bless you. And he's figured he
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just can't make a living doing that. He's a disbarred attorney.
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That's not going to change. But his only play, right,
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his only play. And of course, he's going to have
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to now issue all these statements. You know, he will.
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He was bamboozled by the prosecutors. They committed misconduct. They
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twisted his arm. One of Michael Cohen's problems in those days, remember,
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01:13:14.890 --> 01:13:17.510
he took the federal fall for what a lot of
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01:13:17.529 --> 01:13:20.949
people said was what Trump did at Trump's direction. People said,
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01:13:20.979 --> 01:13:22.640
why did he take the fall? Why didn't he stick
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with Trump more? And the reason was, Mark, that he
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apparently had state criminal problems. He'd done something with taxi, medallions,
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all kinds of tax fraud. and regular old fraud that
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was prosecutable in state court. So they said to him, look, okay,
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do you want to go to Sing Sing or do
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you want to go to the nice federal prison? And
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Michael said, I think I'll go to the nice federal prison.
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He signed up and pleaded guilty to the federal charges.
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I think they dropped or didn't pursue the state crimes
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against Michael Cohen, which allegedly were very strong against him.
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So now, yes, he is kissing the Trump butt.
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Well, he's got a show, I guess, on WABC in
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New York, and he had Trump on, and we played
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clips from it.
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Oh, it's priceless. Do you have it again?
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He's kind of, hey, boss, do you remember the time
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we were, it was like listening to two mobsters talk. Hey, boss,
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01:14:14.069 --> 01:14:16.430
just call him, hey, boss. Remember the time we had
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01:14:16.449 --> 01:14:18.829
that construction thing and you sent me over to talk
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01:14:18.869 --> 01:14:21.140
to those guys? I mean, it was just, it was
1328
01:14:21.279 --> 01:14:26.079
really like listening to an FBI wiretap, you know?
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He knew he was being taped. Trump knew he was
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being taped. So he was very guarded. This is not
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the time he didn't know he was being taped when
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he talked to the Georgia secretary of state and said,
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just find me 11,000 votes, meaning just concoct 11,000 votes.
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He knew the thing. It was on the radio or whatever.
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He knew that that was being taped. It was being recorded.
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It was being listened to. So apparently all Trump said
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was things that were self-serving to help Trump.
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Right.
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How they bamboozled you. They pushed you around. I know
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that you always thought I hadn't done it. You know,
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01:14:54.659 --> 01:14:57.369
stuff like that. And Michael keeps trying to, you know,
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01:14:57.609 --> 01:14:59.909
he's trying to get something juicy. And Trump's not giving
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01:14:59.949 --> 01:15:01.710
him anything juicy. Yeah.
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01:15:01.989 --> 01:15:05.529
Yeah, really something. I'm out of time with you. Love
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01:15:05.689 --> 01:15:08.970
our time together on Thursdays. David Katz, of course, you
1346
01:15:09.010 --> 01:15:13.600
can find him across the universe doing News Nation. even
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01:15:13.659 --> 01:15:15.500
Fox News Channel. He's a lot of the time a
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01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:18.100
legal analyst on Fox News Channel. If you see him
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01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:22.039
for a law case, he's a trial analyst. So he's
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01:15:22.079 --> 01:15:24.760
not there for political reasons. He's there to talk about
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01:15:24.800 --> 01:15:27.899
the murder case of the hour.
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01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:32.750
Mark is sparing his audience all of my thoughts on
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01:15:32.770 --> 01:15:37.250
the Lindsay Clancy case, the woman who killed her three kids.
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01:15:37.310 --> 01:15:40.729
But that is a really interesting one on KGO, the
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station that shall not be named.
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Oops.
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We used to say, if you're talking about it, we're
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talking about it. And it's amazing how many people, maybe
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not the audience of this show so much, but like
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the lady who sells me a donut in the morning.
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She saw me on TV and wanted to tell me
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all about La Llorona, the weeping woman of Mexican legend.
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And people are just fascinated. And of course, they want
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to know who was this holdout juror? Who was the
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lone juror? So maybe by next week.
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Maybe there's more. I have, I have zero interest in it,
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but I would be happy to, but I'm glad, I'm
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glad of America is so into it. But I would,
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I would be happy if people want it. I definitely would,
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you know, it seems somewhat interesting, but not worth like
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dedicating any time to.
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We've gone right over to Fox.
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A couple of weeks ago on Fox.
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I adore you. And I'll talk about whatever you want
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to talk about any old time. Thank you, David Katz, everybody.
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Thanks for being here, my friend. Right on. Right on.
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The Mark Thompson Show. Yeah, I know.
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I mean, I know that Clancy case is really big.
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I'm sorry. I just, you know, it's weird. I live
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with my darling wife, his way into all of this
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true crime and all of this other stuff and these
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trials and everything. It just doesn't move my meter at all.
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I think that we've got such big issues. And I
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don't know. I just find a lot of what's going
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on just far more interesting. But that's just my taste.
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I mean, I know a lot of you would like it.
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And we can maybe talk to David about that in
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a bigger way next time. Please smash the like button
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for David Katz and for his brilliance and his fair-minded
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legal analysis. And speaking of brilliance, so excited. I give
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this guy some time away because I don't want to
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constantly be knocking on his door. But then I knock
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on the door and hope he can make it. I mean,
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his background doing the heavy lift, uncovering all the ways
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in which elections can be manipulated, voters can vote. be
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denied their legal right to have their voice heard, voter
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suppression in all the different ways. He's chronicled it. Greg
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Palast actually has released a six-part series of short video
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reels on the latest in voter suppression tricks. That's called
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Jim Crow Reloaded. And he has just launched his site,
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I think relaunched it, the saveyourvote.org site. I'll have links
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to both those things under... This video. I love the movie.
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I've seen it, I think, three times. The Lino DiCaprio
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produced a film.
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Vigilantes, Inc.
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Vigilantes, Inc. Yeah, I loved it. Thank you, Albert. America's
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new voter suppression hit men with that lengthy but well-deserved introduction.
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How about it for the great Greg Pallast, everyone? Look
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at you, man. Nice to see you.
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Great.
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Thank you. This is the great Greg Pallast. He'll be
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here in a minute.
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You are, dude, you are the real thing. I don't
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01:18:38.579 --> 01:18:41.140
know how you do it. You're tireless. You've got the
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statistics background, so you're throwing all these numbers together, and
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01:18:44.109 --> 01:18:46.810
then you have to communicate them in some sort of
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palatable way, and you do. You do.
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I enjoy that.
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I enjoy that.
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Listen, listen, the important thing is for people. Look, I
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do a lot of work that involves a lot of numbers.
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And as you know, Americans are kind of math phobic,
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01:18:59.770 --> 01:19:02.819
number phobic. So my thing is, because I love math,
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01:19:03.380 --> 01:19:06.260
is that I take the mathematical investigations I do. I
1425
01:19:06.300 --> 01:19:09.619
got what is the equivalent Pulitzer Prize in data journalism.
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01:19:10.369 --> 01:19:12.130
And I try to make it so people understand it.
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01:19:12.140 --> 01:19:16.100
So what we're talking about now is your election, your democracy.
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01:19:16.239 --> 01:19:16.680
Hello?
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01:19:16.699 --> 01:19:19.699
Do you want to wave democracy goodbye? Because this may
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01:19:19.739 --> 01:19:21.539
be your last chance to get a kiss goodbye.
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01:19:22.079 --> 01:19:25.229
I mean, it really is, to call it under threat,
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01:19:25.289 --> 01:19:27.350
I think is to understate it in the extreme. I mean,
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01:19:27.369 --> 01:19:30.010
this is a real scary time. And I thought we
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01:19:30.050 --> 01:19:35.560
were at a scary time four years ago. I wonder
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01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:37.619
if you can bring me up to speed. I mean,
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01:19:37.720 --> 01:19:40.470
I often talk about your work because you chronicle it
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01:19:40.510 --> 01:19:42.810
so well in the ways in which, for example, the
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01:19:42.829 --> 01:19:45.409
state of Georgia has taken voter suppression to high art.
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01:19:45.710 --> 01:19:47.430
We've seen it in southern states.
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01:19:47.449 --> 01:19:49.109
I'm laughing, but, you know, what else are you going
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01:19:49.140 --> 01:19:49.239
to do?
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01:19:49.260 --> 01:19:50.729
You're going to cry? Yeah, no, and you chronicle it,
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01:19:50.760 --> 01:19:54.659
and it is laughable. It really is almost cartoonish how
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01:19:54.699 --> 01:19:59.920
they do it traditionally. And now we've seen the current
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01:19:59.979 --> 01:20:03.250
administration try to mess with the mail-in balloting. We've also
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01:20:03.310 --> 01:20:07.130
seen the threat of ICE agents, armed ICE agents, at
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01:20:07.189 --> 01:20:11.390
the polling places. You begin to see these overt ways
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01:20:11.600 --> 01:20:14.729
in which the vote might be suppressed beyond some of
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01:20:14.750 --> 01:20:16.350
these ways that you've chronicled in the past.
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01:20:17.329 --> 01:20:17.590
Yes.
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01:20:17.810 --> 01:20:21.649
OK, so we got a new wave of Jim Crowism
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01:20:21.949 --> 01:20:26.420
in America. You know, the nasty secret of American elections
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01:20:26.479 --> 01:20:29.720
is that we don't let everyone vote, every citizen vote,
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01:20:29.880 --> 01:20:32.539
and we don't count every ballot. Now, I'm not talking
1455
01:20:32.579 --> 01:20:37.100
about Elon Musk messing with the ballots from outer space.
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01:20:37.899 --> 01:20:42.130
Forget all that stuff. That does not happen. What happens
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01:20:42.210 --> 01:20:47.010
is something old-fashioned and horrible just improved in a horrible
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01:20:47.050 --> 01:20:52.319
way by AI. When we say suppressing the vote, what
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01:20:52.359 --> 01:20:55.939
we mean is is telling people, mainly people of color,
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01:20:55.960 --> 01:20:59.439
we're talking Black voters, Hispanic voters, Asian American voters. And
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01:20:59.460 --> 01:21:02.199
by the way, one of the big targets is American
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01:21:02.260 --> 01:21:09.149
Native voters who are basically wiped off the voter rolls
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01:21:09.270 --> 01:21:12.930
by the million and votes are cast and not counted
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01:21:12.970 --> 01:21:15.609
because they're disqualified. Now, that's under the laws that exist.
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01:21:15.649 --> 01:21:19.949
I'm not saying that this is illegal, though, on the
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01:21:19.989 --> 01:21:24.310
other hand, I'm working right now If you go to saveyourvote.org
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01:21:24.369 --> 01:21:28.729
and you get some of our videos and information. I'm
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01:21:28.770 --> 01:21:33.180
working with the NAACP of Atlanta. My old friend Jesse Jackson,
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01:21:34.460 --> 01:21:38.260
who just passed away, working with his organization Rainbow Push
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01:21:39.420 --> 01:21:45.180
and other voting rights groups. The idea here is that
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if you're an American, I just want you to have
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01:21:47.689 --> 01:21:50.989
the right to vote. That's not a big deal. Why
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01:21:51.029 --> 01:21:55.029
is that in question? So, for example, when Trump talks about,
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01:21:55.710 --> 01:21:58.560
he's going to say, you can't get a ballot unless
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01:21:58.569 --> 01:22:03.899
you're on a citizenship list. Well, guess what, Mark? We're
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01:22:03.939 --> 01:22:09.039
not Red China. We're not Saudi Arabia or Russia. We
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01:22:09.140 --> 01:22:12.989
do not have lists of citizens, of people that are
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01:22:13.170 --> 01:22:18.489
okay to vote. It doesn't exist. So he's saying only
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01:22:18.569 --> 01:22:22.329
citizens on our citizenship list can vote. Well, baby brother,
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01:22:23.130 --> 01:22:26.350
there ain't no citizenship list. So what the hell are
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01:22:26.369 --> 01:22:28.090
you talking about, nitwit?
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01:22:29.270 --> 01:22:31.149
He wants to build one, Greg. He wants to build one.
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01:22:31.180 --> 01:22:32.819
So he's going to build one. Here's how they're going
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01:22:32.840 --> 01:22:37.899
to build it. They're going to take the list of databases.
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01:22:37.340 --> 01:22:38.619
That we know have citizenship.
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01:22:38.659 --> 01:22:43.159
For example, passports. Now, by the way, Trump has issued
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01:22:43.180 --> 01:22:45.000
an executive order that you have to prove you're a
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01:22:45.020 --> 01:22:48.850
citizen to vote. Hey, if you're not a citizen, you know,
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01:22:49.430 --> 01:22:51.970
but here's the thing, Mark, it doesn't happen. I mean,
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01:22:52.010 --> 01:22:54.369
I've I've been to you know, I've been voting for
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01:22:54.770 --> 01:22:57.289
my whole life and I've never seen a spaceship come
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01:22:57.310 --> 01:23:00.710
down with alien voters with ballots in their hands. And
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01:23:00.750 --> 01:23:03.390
by the way, people do not swim the Rio Grande
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01:23:03.430 --> 01:23:05.810
so they can vote in your school board election, even
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01:23:05.829 --> 01:23:07.979
your presidential election. And by the way, if you're not
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01:23:08.020 --> 01:23:10.760
here legally in America, the last thing you're going to
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01:23:10.779 --> 01:23:13.939
do is register to vote where you get your name done. So,
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01:23:14.159 --> 01:23:16.819
you know, I was just looking at the numbers today. Yeah,
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01:23:16.840 --> 01:23:20.640
there have been a few idiots who've been convicted of
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01:23:20.760 --> 01:23:26.880
voting who aren't citizens. In Florida, using this same citizenship list,
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01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:33.210
which the state of Florida at the time, Rick Scott,
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01:23:33.369 --> 01:23:35.590
when he was governor, Republican governor, got a list from
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01:23:35.689 --> 01:23:38.050
Obama that people had been deported. So they removed all
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01:23:38.069 --> 01:23:41.109
the people who had been deported from the voter rolls. Well,
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01:23:41.130 --> 01:23:42.890
they weren't registered in the first place, but what they
1506
01:23:42.909 --> 01:23:50.350
got was a list of people named Jose Garcia. You know, Eduardo.
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01:23:51.350 --> 01:23:51.930
Martinez.
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01:23:51.970 --> 01:23:54.170
I'm not making up these names, by the way. And
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01:23:54.210 --> 01:23:56.729
so they removed a lot. Are you ready for this?
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01:23:57.529 --> 01:24:04.739
In the elections in Florida, they have removed 176,000 voters
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01:24:05.479 --> 01:24:08.600
because they are suspected non-citizens. Now, I don't know what
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01:24:08.619 --> 01:24:13.680
a suspected non-citizen is. There's citizens and there's non-citizens. To
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01:24:13.720 --> 01:24:18.100
be a suspected non-citizen is basically if your name's Garcia.
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01:24:19.579 --> 01:24:23.880
By the way, here's a fact for you. 832,000 Americans
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01:24:24.359 --> 01:24:28.899
have a last name Garcia. So if they deport Jose
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01:24:28.920 --> 01:24:32.859
Garcia and they take off and then they say, oh
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01:24:33.039 --> 01:24:35.319
my God, there's a Jose Garcia on our voter rolls.
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01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:37.800
They take them off. Are you taking off an American
1519
01:24:37.840 --> 01:24:39.579
citizen or are you taking off someone who has a
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01:24:39.619 --> 01:24:44.300
Hispanic name? So of the 176,000 people removed, They found
1521
01:24:44.359 --> 01:24:49.100
exactly one alien voter, by the way, who happened to
1522
01:24:49.140 --> 01:24:52.000
be an Austrian who voted Republican.
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01:24:52.279 --> 01:24:55.020
Right. By the way, it was not, I just.
1524
01:24:54.920 --> 01:24:58.239
Want to make it clear, it was neither Hitler nor
1525
01:24:58.340 --> 01:25:03.409
Arnold Schwarzenegger, but there was one single voter. But I'm laughing,
1526
01:25:04.189 --> 01:25:05.850
and a lot of people got their names back on
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01:25:05.869 --> 01:25:07.630
because they had to go to court to prove that
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01:25:07.649 --> 01:25:08.630
they're American citizens.
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01:25:08.689 --> 01:25:10.210
Well, this is where I wanted to get to, Greg.
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01:25:10.229 --> 01:25:12.949
I didn't mean to interrupt, but in your movie, I
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01:25:12.989 --> 01:25:17.489
remember quite clearly that people, some very high-profile people, as
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01:25:17.529 --> 01:25:21.069
I recall, a serviceman who was serving overseas and a
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01:25:21.109 --> 01:25:24.399
number of other people who were distinguished Americans, they weren't
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01:25:24.439 --> 01:25:28.800
even aware that their name had been taken off the
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01:25:28.840 --> 01:25:31.399
registered voter list. That is to say that they had
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01:25:31.500 --> 01:25:36.090
somehow they were being compelled in any way to sort
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01:25:36.109 --> 01:25:39.369
of clear their name or to re-register or whatever.
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01:25:39.390 --> 01:25:41.329
Oh my God, yeah. You know, you want to watch,
1539
01:25:41.489 --> 01:25:43.930
I'll tell you what, I have a film out, as
1540
01:25:43.970 --> 01:25:47.010
you said, that the DiCaprio family has been wonderful as
1541
01:25:47.050 --> 01:25:52.439
my producers and in my work. And so go to gregpalace.com
1542
01:25:52.520 --> 01:25:56.369
or just look on YouTube. You'll see a film, Vigilantes Inc.,
1543
01:25:56.500 --> 01:26:01.720
like Vigilantes Incorporated, Vigilantes Inc., America's New Vote Suppression Hitman. Just,
1544
01:26:02.229 --> 01:26:05.949
Put in Vigilante's Palace and you'll get on YouTube. And
1545
01:26:05.970 --> 01:26:09.550
I want to thank the DiCaprios and Jamie Foxx for
1546
01:26:09.989 --> 01:26:13.789
financially making this possible to release this for free. And
1547
01:26:13.810 --> 01:26:16.729
what you'll find, you'll see a woman at the beginning
1548
01:26:16.750 --> 01:26:19.989
of the film who chases me out of her house
1549
01:26:20.010 --> 01:26:26.289
at gunpoint. And because she is challenged, she's a Republican official.
1550
01:26:26.310 --> 01:26:29.029
I'm not picking on the Republican Party. She's a Republican official.
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01:26:30.020 --> 01:26:34.880
who challenged, are you ready? 32,000 voters in her county,
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01:26:34.899 --> 01:26:36.800
Cobb County, Georgia.
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01:26:36.800 --> 01:26:37.140
32,000 voters.
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01:26:37.180 --> 01:26:40.220
She's not a government official, but under these old Jim
1555
01:26:40.260 --> 01:26:44.500
Crow laws, an individual can challenge another. They use now computers.
1556
01:26:44.539 --> 01:26:47.340
She's handed in a spreadsheet. She said, stop these people. Now,
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01:26:47.800 --> 01:26:51.859
among the people who were stopped from voting is Gamaliel Turner.
1558
01:26:51.979 --> 01:26:55.899
And I should say major Gamaliel Turner, who is the
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01:26:56.020 --> 01:27:01.340
Pentagon's expert on warfare of the future. This man at
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01:27:01.359 --> 01:27:07.359
the time, 70 years old, was assigned to the Fort
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01:27:07.380 --> 01:27:12.979
Hueneme military base here in California. And he has a
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01:27:13.060 --> 01:27:17.149
home near Fort Bragg, excuse me, Fort Benning in Georgia.
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01:27:17.869 --> 01:27:20.409
And they refused to send, they didn't send him his ballot.
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01:27:20.430 --> 01:27:23.189
So he calls up and he says, well, where's my ballot?
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01:27:23.229 --> 01:27:26.050
And he said, Mr. Turner, they didn't call him major.
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01:27:26.550 --> 01:27:26.850
Mr.
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01:27:26.909 --> 01:27:29.890
Turner, you're, you've been challenged. He said, what does that mean?
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01:27:29.909 --> 01:27:31.409
He said, well, we can't send you a ballot until
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01:27:31.449 --> 01:27:33.170
you come into our office and just, you know, just
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01:27:33.229 --> 01:27:37.569
prove you're an American that you live in Georgia. He says,
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01:27:38.270 --> 01:27:39.869
it's two days before the election. You want me to
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01:27:39.909 --> 01:27:45.350
fly 2,700 miles to prove I'm an American again? And
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01:27:45.390 --> 01:27:50.189
what he meant by again, it's an African-American officer. This
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01:27:50.250 --> 01:27:56.189
is not by accident. They challenged 4,000 black soldiers out
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01:27:56.229 --> 01:28:00.710
of Fort Benning to stop them from voting. This is how,
1576
01:28:00.909 --> 01:28:08.710
by the way, Trump won Georgia in 2024 and 2016
1577
01:28:08.710 --> 01:28:13.850
by these challenges. And his father was the co-founder of
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01:28:13.890 --> 01:28:18.859
the Southern Christian Leadership Conference with Martin Luther King. They
1579
01:28:18.899 --> 01:28:21.119
picked on the wrong guy. So he actually did fly 5,000
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01:28:21.119 --> 01:28:21.760
miles round trip.
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01:28:21.880 --> 01:28:23.479
It's a wild story.
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01:28:23.520 --> 01:28:26.560
He flew 5,000 miles round trip to get his vote counted.
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01:28:26.600 --> 01:28:31.039
But unfortunately, the thousands of other soldiers who didn't fly
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01:28:31.619 --> 01:28:35.020
back for their vote, lost their vote. And this is
1585
01:28:35.060 --> 01:28:36.930
what this story is about. So what we want to
1586
01:28:36.949 --> 01:28:39.250
do is, this is not about attack on Black people.
1587
01:28:39.270 --> 01:28:39.829
It's about attack.
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01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:41.319
On America.
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01:28:43.100 --> 01:28:48.319
When you take away Major Turner's vote, you've taken away
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01:28:48.380 --> 01:28:51.520
my vote too. You've canceled out my vote. You know,
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01:28:51.539 --> 01:28:53.880
if we want to be a democracy, that means we
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01:28:54.140 --> 01:28:57.819
all get to vote if we're Americans. And these games
1593
01:28:57.880 --> 01:29:01.229
of saying, okay, So Major Turner was challenged by these
1594
01:29:01.300 --> 01:29:03.979
vigilantes who said, oh, he didn't live in Georgia. Yeah,
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01:29:04.159 --> 01:29:06.939
he lives in Georgia. But believe it or not, soldiers,
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01:29:07.039 --> 01:29:12.770
American soldiers on assignment are allowed to file and submit
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01:29:12.909 --> 01:29:14.699
an absentee mail-in ballot.
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01:29:16.119 --> 01:29:20.340
That's one of the areas in which there is a discussion.
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01:29:20.500 --> 01:29:23.699
And they're doing everything to stop it. So they're saying, okay,
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01:29:23.720 --> 01:29:25.359
we're not going to send you your ballot. We're going
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01:29:25.380 --> 01:29:28.130
to use the post office as a way to determine
1602
01:29:28.390 --> 01:29:30.130
who gets to vote and who doesn't. I'll tell you
1603
01:29:30.149 --> 01:29:32.250
who gets to vote. Americans get to vote.
1604
01:29:32.270 --> 01:29:33.289
Is that good enough for you?
1605
01:29:33.489 --> 01:29:35.829
It's good enough for me. I don't need the post office.
1606
01:29:36.229 --> 01:29:39.210
And they have a 95-page manual of who gets to
1607
01:29:39.250 --> 01:29:42.939
vote and who doesn't. Now, go outside, ask your mailman
1608
01:29:43.409 --> 01:29:46.100
when they come by, say, have you read the 95-page
1609
01:29:46.199 --> 01:29:50.220
manual about whose ballot you can deliver and whose ballot
1610
01:29:50.239 --> 01:29:52.439
you don't? And by the way, mail-in balloting is not
1611
01:29:52.600 --> 01:29:56.739
small stuff. It's about one-third of the American public votes
1612
01:29:56.779 --> 01:30:04.310
by mail, especially African-Americans. About 70% of African-Americans vote by
1613
01:30:04.479 --> 01:30:07.430
either mail mail or they use a drop box or
1614
01:30:07.449 --> 01:30:10.189
they drop off their ballot at early voting stations and
1615
01:30:10.250 --> 01:30:14.109
early voting. 70% of black people in swing states, North Carolina, Georgia,
1616
01:30:14.130 --> 01:30:18.380
and others vote using a mail in ballot. So they
1617
01:30:18.460 --> 01:30:20.899
want to stop them from just getting their ballot. Can
1618
01:30:20.939 --> 01:30:21.460
you imagine?
1619
01:30:21.819 --> 01:30:24.380
Of course, but that makes the statistics then bear it out.
1620
01:30:24.739 --> 01:30:25.960
I only have another minute or two, but I wanted
1621
01:30:25.979 --> 01:30:29.539
to ask you about this series of, uh, of reels
1622
01:30:29.560 --> 01:30:30.260
that you have out.
1623
01:30:30.500 --> 01:30:30.760
Yes.
1624
01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:31.039
Yeah.
1625
01:30:31.060 --> 01:30:31.979
Tell me about that.
1626
01:30:32.100 --> 01:30:34.199
It's called Jim Crow Reloaded.
1627
01:30:34.380 --> 01:30:35.960
And we go through, here's what I want to do
1628
01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:38.699
with you. And Jim, go to, yeah, you got the
1629
01:30:38.739 --> 01:30:40.859
good thing up on your site. There's Jim Crow Reloaded.
1630
01:30:41.439 --> 01:30:44.140
That's Ed Ward, a brilliant young man who explains to
1631
01:30:44.180 --> 01:30:48.100
you reel by reel, all the tricks that they can
1632
01:30:48.239 --> 01:30:50.079
use to take away your vote and what you can
1633
01:30:50.119 --> 01:30:51.800
do to save your vote. I don't want to just
1634
01:30:51.939 --> 01:30:56.479
bitch and complain. I want you to exercise your democratic rights.
1635
01:30:56.520 --> 01:30:58.510
And by the way, No one's going to do it
1636
01:30:58.550 --> 01:31:02.289
for you, but you. If you have to check your registration,
1637
01:31:02.329 --> 01:31:04.970
make sure you're still registered. You have to re-register if
1638
01:31:05.010 --> 01:31:07.430
they've purged you from the voter rolls. You've got to
1639
01:31:07.569 --> 01:31:11.029
get your mail-in ballot in time. And I want you
1640
01:31:11.050 --> 01:31:14.310
to go into an early voting station with that ballot.
1641
01:31:15.149 --> 01:31:16.949
Try not to mail in it if you can. But
1642
01:31:16.989 --> 01:31:19.569
we try to show you at Jim Crow Reloaded what
1643
01:31:19.590 --> 01:31:22.880
they do and what you can do about it, including,
1644
01:31:23.489 --> 01:31:25.880
and if you can't remember that Jim Crow Reloaded, just remember,
1645
01:31:26.159 --> 01:31:28.359
save your vote. Not save my vote. You got to
1646
01:31:28.380 --> 01:31:33.560
save your own vote. Saveyourvote.org. Saveyourvote.org. You can see the films.
1647
01:31:33.880 --> 01:31:36.520
You can see my last film, Vigilantes, Inc., for free.
1648
01:31:37.060 --> 01:31:42.619
You can check your registration. You can learn how to
1649
01:31:42.779 --> 01:31:44.199
save your vote.
1650
01:31:44.810 --> 01:31:45.109
Vote.
1651
01:31:45.289 --> 01:31:48.869
And if everyone gets to vote, I'm happy with the outcome.
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01:31:49.270 --> 01:31:51.890
I don't want elections determined by Jim Crow. I want
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01:31:51.909 --> 01:31:53.220
it to be determined by the voters.
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01:31:53.760 --> 01:31:57.680
We'll have a link to everything under this video, uh, palace,
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01:31:57.960 --> 01:32:01.699
love the work you do mad respect. And, uh, you've
1656
01:32:01.739 --> 01:32:05.840
never been more needed than now. So, uh, yeah, I,
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01:32:05.859 --> 01:32:06.199
you know what?
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01:32:06.220 --> 01:32:08.539
I have faith in you. As long as we have
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01:32:08.560 --> 01:32:11.180
Mark Thompson, we have democracy.
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01:32:12.100 --> 01:32:14.390
Uh, I so appreciate our time together. We'll do it
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01:32:14.430 --> 01:32:17.810
again before the midterms really get cracking. Okay. Greg Palast,
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01:32:17.829 --> 01:32:20.670
see you. Thanks. Greg Palast, everybody.
1663
01:32:22.140 --> 01:32:23.479
The Mark Thompson Show.
1664
01:32:24.079 --> 01:32:26.600
How great is he? You know, his energy. I mean,
1665
01:32:26.640 --> 01:32:29.260
and he's applied it to getting a lot of information out.
1666
01:32:29.779 --> 01:32:32.479
So we'll have click-throughs, as I say, under the video
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01:32:32.500 --> 01:32:35.069
so you can check out. His latest series of reels,
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01:32:35.130 --> 01:32:37.909
I haven't seen them yet. They look really intriguing. I
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01:32:37.949 --> 01:32:39.130
do want to... I know.
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01:32:39.470 --> 01:32:40.640
Your comments.
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01:32:40.720 --> 01:32:43.500
I did just add the link in the description, so
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01:32:43.520 --> 01:32:44.840
just scroll down.
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01:32:45.180 --> 01:32:48.340
Cool, cool. Albert, everybody. Albert, thank you. Yes, thank you.
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01:32:48.420 --> 01:32:51.819
That's an expectant father still working hard, which I appreciate.
1675
01:32:52.489 --> 01:32:55.270
Vilma Devlin is an OG of the show with a
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01:32:55.270 --> 01:33:00.939
$ 5 super chat. She says, Donald Trump still owes us $ 2, 000
1677
01:33:00.260 --> 01:33:03.460
for a tariff rebate. Remember, Trump doesn't pay his debts,
1678
01:33:03.560 --> 01:33:06.149
nor will he pay his voter bribe. Yes, exactly. Vilma
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01:33:06.159 --> 01:33:10.359
couldn't agree more. As detailed... I think it's the Hail
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01:33:10.399 --> 01:33:12.359
Mary pass. You know what I mean? And I'm going
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01:33:12.380 --> 01:33:14.380
to give you all $ 5, 000. You just have to win
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01:33:14.399 --> 01:33:17.020
this election. You know, I'll tell you what. You'll get
1683
01:33:17.060 --> 01:33:19.520
the checks at the gas pump where gas is only
1684
01:33:19.539 --> 01:33:22.439
going to be $ 2 a gallon after the midterm elections.
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01:33:22.479 --> 01:33:27.789
Just vote GOP. The super sticker comes from WZ583. It
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01:33:27.869 --> 01:33:31.630
rolls off my tongue. WZ583, a $ 20 super sticker. Big
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01:33:31.670 --> 01:33:31.989
shout out.
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01:33:33.210 --> 01:33:33.279
Wow.
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01:33:37.470 --> 01:33:37.829
What?
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01:33:37.930 --> 01:33:44.810
Yeah, I know. I'll always have WZ583 and this day
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01:33:45.409 --> 01:33:49.550
in my thoughts. Thank you, WZ. Appreciate that. Tom Graves
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01:33:49.590 --> 01:33:51.869
with a $ 5 super chat. Big shout out. Don't forget
1693
01:33:51.890 --> 01:33:56.390
that Ivanka Trump secured trademark protection on Trump brand voting
1694
01:33:56.430 --> 01:34:00.569
machines during Trump's first term in China. Yeah, interesting thing
1695
01:34:00.630 --> 01:34:03.909
happened with Ivanka. She, of course, the daughter of Donald,
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01:34:04.449 --> 01:34:09.449
she accompanied, as Tom Graves has noticed, noted she accompanied
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01:34:09.489 --> 01:34:13.760
her father on these economic summits in China. It was
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01:34:13.800 --> 01:34:16.779
a weird thing. While a trade deal was being crafted,
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01:34:16.800 --> 01:34:20.060
this is again in the first four years of Trump's presidency,
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01:34:20.920 --> 01:34:23.800
they were crafting a deal with China and Ivanka's along
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01:34:23.819 --> 01:34:26.020
for the ride. It was like, you bring your daughter
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01:34:26.039 --> 01:34:30.489
to this? She's someone who is actually seeking a trademark
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01:34:30.550 --> 01:34:35.510
and copyrights from China. And she got them. And so
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01:34:36.369 --> 01:34:38.810
It was viewed as a conflict of interest, of course,
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01:34:38.829 --> 01:34:41.810
for him to be even there having these conversations. But
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01:34:42.170 --> 01:34:46.239
now something like that looks like Mr. Rogers' neighborhood compared
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01:34:46.300 --> 01:34:50.079
to the conflict of interest we've seen with Witkoff, with Kushner,
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01:34:50.159 --> 01:34:52.939
with Lutnik, with all of them. They all have skin
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01:34:52.960 --> 01:34:55.840
in the game. Besson's friends with the money that was
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01:34:55.880 --> 01:34:59.560
doled out to Argentina. This is a crew that is
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01:34:59.800 --> 01:35:02.989
all about self-enrichment and, of course, the crypto gang that
1712
01:35:03.029 --> 01:35:06.729
has taken over along with the tech elite, the Peter
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01:35:06.810 --> 01:35:09.970
Thiel's of the world, and those who are involved in
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01:35:10.229 --> 01:35:15.329
moneying this presidency in ways that are unprecedented. I mean, again,
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01:35:15.609 --> 01:35:17.510
they make that Ivanka thing look like, you know, a
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01:35:17.529 --> 01:35:21.159
day at the beach. Sal, the shoemaker, Democratic sweep of
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01:35:21.220 --> 01:35:25.140
both House and Senate is up 28% on polymarket. Big
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01:35:25.180 --> 01:35:25.529
shout out.
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01:35:25.600 --> 01:35:25.859
Wow.
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01:35:26.720 --> 01:35:30.359
Republican Senate, Democratic House split is down to 18%. Wow.
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01:35:30.420 --> 01:35:37.210
So it's practically a dead heat. Thank you for that,
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01:35:37.270 --> 01:35:39.789
Sal the Shoemaker. Sal the Shoemaker doing some.
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01:35:40.529 --> 01:35:44.350
Joe Fish, Sal the Shoemaker, Joe Box, and Little Anthony.
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01:35:44.390 --> 01:35:50.590
Vilma Devlin with another super chat. Two super chats from
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01:35:51.289 --> 01:35:55.199
Vilma Devlin. Big shout out. Vilma says, while Trump was
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01:35:55.300 --> 01:35:58.560
offering his bribe, Telerico was out raising 20,000 pounds of
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01:35:58.659 --> 01:36:01.300
food for the needy. Quite a contrast. Yeah, I mean,
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01:36:01.420 --> 01:36:04.720
you know, this is a crew on the Trump side
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01:36:04.760 --> 01:36:08.310
that doesn't do anything for charity. So, I mean, Tallarico
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01:36:08.350 --> 01:36:10.850
is a real, I think, courage of his convictions. I
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01:36:10.869 --> 01:36:16.220
can play you something from Tallarico in a second. If
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01:36:16.260 --> 01:36:18.579
I've got time, that's why I'm pausing. I might be
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01:36:18.600 --> 01:36:21.619
able to do it. Randy, if Trump would have endorsed Cornyn,
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01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:25.979
Texas wouldn't be an issue for the Republicans. That's so true. Cornyn,
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01:36:26.020 --> 01:36:30.970
who voted with Trump 99% of the time. But now
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01:36:30.989 --> 01:36:34.470
you're exactly right. would not have been an issue at all.
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01:36:34.689 --> 01:36:38.329
So if time allows... And now, your comments. I'm reading
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01:36:38.369 --> 01:36:41.149
the comments. Jim Shields says, if time allows, at the end,
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01:36:41.710 --> 01:36:45.630
let's get a 48-second sports report from Prince Albert. Let's
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01:36:45.649 --> 01:36:48.439
get his take on the Niners' chances tonight. Yeah, Kamish,
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01:36:48.770 --> 01:36:51.420
the Niners play in Australia. Here it is, Richard Delamater
1742
01:36:51.699 --> 01:36:54.579
with a $ 2 Super Chat. Big shout-out. Kamish, what is
1743
01:36:54.600 --> 01:36:58.779
your assessment of the 49ers? Can you give us the lowdown?
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01:36:59.180 --> 01:37:02.779
This will be a– who do they play tonight, Kamish?
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01:37:03.199 --> 01:37:04.659
They play the Rams down under.
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01:37:04.939 --> 01:37:08.140
This is a classic then division rivalry, as you're saying.
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01:37:08.939 --> 01:37:10.819
Yeah, it's going to be– the colors will be popping.
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01:37:10.840 --> 01:37:14.899
We've got the blue team versus the red team in Melbourne,
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01:37:15.020 --> 01:37:19.600
which will be interesting because we'll see two different methods
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01:37:19.930 --> 01:37:22.729
of– the Rams just flying in a couple of days before,
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01:37:23.569 --> 01:37:25.470
and the Niners have been there for a week already,
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01:37:25.550 --> 01:37:28.050
so we'll see– which theory will go past.
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01:37:28.149 --> 01:37:29.229
I feel good about my Niners.
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01:37:29.710 --> 01:37:32.890
Yeah. One team, just on your point there, sort of
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01:37:32.909 --> 01:37:36.779
acclimatizing to everything, the hour, the day, everything, they're getting
1756
01:37:36.840 --> 01:37:38.779
used to it. The other team just going in, kind
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01:37:38.800 --> 01:37:42.159
of staying on West Coast time probably, and I don't
1758
01:37:42.199 --> 01:37:45.960
know how they do it. Also, you have to think
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01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:48.380
about the game after this. You know what I mean? Like, okay,
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01:37:48.579 --> 01:37:51.810
now you've acclimatized your team to Australia. That worked well
1761
01:37:51.850 --> 01:37:54.189
for the Rams game. Now you're coming back to the States,
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01:37:54.310 --> 01:37:55.750
and it's going to be a little bit of an adjustment.
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01:37:56.010 --> 01:37:58.310
I don't know. I'm sure they've done everything and talked
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01:37:58.329 --> 01:38:04.510
to doctors. These guys are operating at a wildly specific
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01:38:04.550 --> 01:38:07.079
level with the best consultants. But what do you think?
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01:38:07.460 --> 01:38:09.600
How do you see this game going down and beyond this?
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01:38:10.739 --> 01:38:12.640
It's going to be tough because the Niners had a
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01:38:12.840 --> 01:38:16.300
very tumultuous offseason, and the Rams had almost the opposite,
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01:38:16.340 --> 01:38:19.119
where they're just kind of collecting the infinity stones of
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01:38:19.649 --> 01:38:22.489
Miles Garrett, Aaron Donald is back, they're getting the boys
1771
01:38:22.550 --> 01:38:25.770
back together, so It'll be interesting to see the two
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01:38:25.850 --> 01:38:29.210
different matchups come in. I do like my Niners, obviously.
1773
01:38:29.270 --> 01:38:31.979
I think their offense is good. And no Aaron Donald
1774
01:38:32.020 --> 01:38:34.260
yet for the Rams. So I think that might be
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01:38:34.300 --> 01:38:35.720
a difference for us.
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01:38:35.859 --> 01:38:38.939
Oh, yeah. So what is the point spread? Do we know?
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01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:43.579
Not off the top. I can imagine the Rams being
1778
01:38:43.619 --> 01:38:44.079
the favorite.
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01:38:44.100 --> 01:38:46.340
It's not a big gambling crowd. It's really interesting to me.
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01:38:46.399 --> 01:38:49.239
Anybody in the chat know what the gambling number is?
1781
01:38:50.100 --> 01:38:51.380
Our favorite three and a half points.
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01:38:51.560 --> 01:38:52.819
Yeah, I would think it would be around that.
1783
01:38:52.850 --> 01:38:54.520
That seems reasonable.
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01:38:55.430 --> 01:38:58.289
Yeah, the Rams are nominally the home team, as noted here,
1785
01:38:59.489 --> 01:39:02.449
thanks to their owning Australia's NFL marketing rights. But San
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01:39:02.470 --> 01:39:06.510
Francisco arrived a week early, as the commission noted, and
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01:39:06.550 --> 01:39:09.329
they're trying to keep their body clock on Pacific time,
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01:39:09.369 --> 01:39:14.569
or the Rams, while the 49ers are making the adjustment.
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01:39:14.609 --> 01:39:18.449
Game air is at 535 tonight in California. Yeah, on Netflix.
1790
01:39:18.569 --> 01:39:19.770
On Netflix, wow.
1791
01:39:20.239 --> 01:39:22.489
The game yesterday was on NBC, the first game of
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01:39:22.510 --> 01:39:26.010
the season. Very boring game, but I was happy to
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01:39:26.029 --> 01:39:26.750
see football back.
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01:39:27.390 --> 01:39:34.260
Yeah. And Kimmel is the way I'll finish this show.
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01:39:34.539 --> 01:39:36.439
Sorry, Melbourne. Melbourne for our.
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01:39:36.520 --> 01:39:40.939
Melbourne? Aye, good aye. I like the Rams to kind
1797
01:39:41.460 --> 01:39:43.319
of be able to do the staff. It's really good.
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01:39:44.159 --> 01:39:47.729
I don't do it. We say Melbourne. You know what
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01:39:47.750 --> 01:39:47.989
I love.
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01:39:49.609 --> 01:39:52.890
This will mean nothing to anyone except for our Australian listeners,
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01:39:52.949 --> 01:39:57.850
of which there are, I think, two. I was there
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01:39:57.909 --> 01:40:00.680
the first, I think the first year that the Crown
1803
01:40:00.729 --> 01:40:03.399
Towers opened. I think it was at the Crown Tower
1804
01:40:03.460 --> 01:40:07.399
there in Melbourne. And they have a really cool thing.
1805
01:40:07.439 --> 01:40:10.079
It's right along the, it's a hotel with a casino
1806
01:40:10.140 --> 01:40:14.779
attached and everything. So there's a canal right outside and
1807
01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:18.340
they have these huge, they look like candlesticks. They're torches.
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01:40:18.850 --> 01:40:21.670
And they go off at regular intervals. And they're so
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01:40:21.810 --> 01:40:25.050
hot that when you're standing at the window in the hotel,
1810
01:40:25.149 --> 01:40:27.489
you feel the heat through the window. It's really kind
1811
01:40:27.529 --> 01:40:33.229
of cool. I don't think they still have it. But, oh,
1812
01:40:33.270 --> 01:40:37.149
here is Glenn. I was waiting for this. Glenn, Mark,
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01:40:37.840 --> 01:40:42.180
for F's sake, no Aussie accents. You are shit bat
1814
01:40:42.359 --> 01:40:46.210
at it. No offense, mate. Yeah, exactly. I don't really
1815
01:40:46.250 --> 01:40:47.550
do it. I tell you, I don't do it. And
1816
01:40:47.590 --> 01:40:49.470
yet I can't resist it. I can't resist a bad one.
1817
01:40:50.449 --> 01:40:52.270
You know, if you guys didn't talk with that cute
1818
01:40:52.350 --> 01:40:54.810
accent all the time, we wouldn't need to imitate it.
1819
01:40:55.729 --> 01:40:58.380
Knock it off. It's so cute. Everybody wants to speak
1820
01:40:58.409 --> 01:41:02.319
with it. All right. Albert, is there anything else I
1821
01:41:02.359 --> 01:41:05.239
wanted to? I love Jimmy. Oh, Jimmy Kimmel is being
1822
01:41:05.359 --> 01:41:08.399
railroaded out of his show and nighttime television just because
1823
01:41:08.439 --> 01:41:11.090
he criticizes Trump, says Vilma. Yeah, that's where I was.
1824
01:41:11.390 --> 01:41:15.170
What's the story on this? Kim, I'm bummed. I love
1825
01:41:15.210 --> 01:41:18.550
my Jimmy Kimmel. I don't understand what's happening here.
1826
01:41:19.090 --> 01:41:22.390
I was watching last night and he said, as Rosie
1827
01:41:22.430 --> 01:41:25.949
says here, that he has this Tallarico interview. And normally
1828
01:41:26.060 --> 01:41:29.319
he would have done it on the broadcast. But because
1829
01:41:29.399 --> 01:41:33.699
they have worries about their affiliates in Texas, they have
1830
01:41:33.739 --> 01:41:36.659
to pull it and put it on their YouTube channel.
1831
01:41:37.020 --> 01:41:39.840
and not broadcast it. He's got this interview with Tallarico
1832
01:41:39.899 --> 01:41:43.880
that is going straight to YouTube. So that's just different
1833
01:41:43.979 --> 01:41:47.770
the way, you know, the Trump administration just puts their
1834
01:41:47.869 --> 01:41:52.430
finger on everything and applies this pressure and people feel
1835
01:41:52.449 --> 01:41:54.189
like they have no other choice.
1836
01:41:54.649 --> 01:41:56.189
He said, and this is a quote, you know, for
1837
01:41:56.210 --> 01:41:58.550
a lot of years, for the whole 20 year plus
1838
01:41:59.829 --> 01:42:02.710
run of our show, in fact, I've been interviewing Americans
1839
01:42:02.750 --> 01:42:04.840
who are running for office with no problem at all.
1840
01:42:05.399 --> 01:42:10.289
just like Letterman did, Leno did, Arsenio, etc. He said,
1841
01:42:10.329 --> 01:42:12.550
I interviewed Donald Trump when he was running for president
1842
01:42:12.590 --> 01:42:15.130
in 2015, and at that time, when he was the
1843
01:42:15.449 --> 01:42:18.149
one sitting next to me, he seemed to have no
1844
01:42:18.210 --> 01:42:20.909
problem with the idea of talk show host interviewing candidates.
1845
01:42:20.949 --> 01:42:23.220
In fact, he was very eager to come back for
1846
01:42:23.270 --> 01:42:26.319
another interview, which he did just before he became the
1847
01:42:26.359 --> 01:42:27.300
nominee in 2016.
1848
01:42:27.300 --> 01:42:30.140
Yeah, so it's okay when it's Trump, but it's not
1849
01:42:30.220 --> 01:42:32.159
okay when it's against Trump, I guess.
1850
01:42:32.220 --> 01:42:35.819
Yeah, he said, but for some reason... And I can't
1851
01:42:35.859 --> 01:42:39.789
seem to figure out what the reason is. Something has changed.
1852
01:42:41.489 --> 01:42:42.930
And so, you know, this is the same thing that
1853
01:42:42.949 --> 01:42:46.970
happened with Colbert. Colbert had Telerico on. And the show
1854
01:42:47.050 --> 01:42:55.880
ran on the YouTube channel. That's what happened. So that's
1855
01:42:55.920 --> 01:43:01.579
the story. I love my Jimmy Kimmel. Don't take him away.
1856
01:43:02.239 --> 01:43:05.329
You know, I have so few things to. To live for.
1857
01:43:06.229 --> 01:43:10.590
Don't take my Jimmy Kimmel. Tomorrow, I'll play you some Tallarico.
1858
01:43:10.609 --> 01:43:12.770
I was going to play it today, but it's a
1859
01:43:12.850 --> 01:43:16.670
little late. I have an interview to record. I've got
1860
01:43:16.689 --> 01:43:20.560
some good interviews. I've got Gil Duran coming up, too.
1861
01:43:20.800 --> 01:43:26.939
And then, as I'll remind you right now, tomorrow, a very,
1862
01:43:26.979 --> 01:43:31.319
very special guy, Kenneth Feinberg, to talk about September 11th.
1863
01:43:31.359 --> 01:43:37.390
He was the volunteer who came forward to help victim
1864
01:43:37.670 --> 01:43:42.000
families with the government and a settlement with the government.
1865
01:43:42.300 --> 01:43:47.119
Something to address their loss, even knowing that nothing could
1866
01:43:47.140 --> 01:43:50.989
address their loss. It was so massive, that loss. And
1867
01:43:51.010 --> 01:43:54.130
it was not without controversy. And it wasn't the last
1868
01:43:54.189 --> 01:43:56.909
time he was involved in something like that. So that
1869
01:43:57.109 --> 01:44:01.470
is tomorrow. on the anniversary of 9-11. We will do that.
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01:44:01.770 --> 01:44:03.909
Thank you, Albert. Thank you, Kim. Thank you, everybody.
1871
01:44:03.930 --> 01:44:06.689
I'm Shadow Stevens for the Mark Johnson Show.
1872
01:44:07.510 --> 01:44:07.770
Bye-bye.
1873
01:44:08.109 --> 01:44:11.140
Appreciate all your support, everyone. We're out of time. Out
1874
01:44:11.159 --> 01:44:11.579
of time.
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01:44:11.680 --> 01:44:12.399
Bye-bye.
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01:44:13.300 --> 01:44:14.239
Bye-bye.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you all. Oh, I love our Thursday recorded audience.
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00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:07.639
So wonderful to see. And Albert is here today, everyone.
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Albert, thank you.
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He's going to help try to keep the train on
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Mark, are you here?
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Yes, he's here.
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That's right. And Kim is here, too.
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Kim, how are you?
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Yeah, very, very cool.
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I heard you missed me.
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Yeah, it's very, very wonderful to have everyone here on
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the day. We have a special guest. In addition to
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the federal prosecutor who turned defense attorney. I'm talking about
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David Katz, who is a regular Thursday visitor. We have
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Greg Pallast here today. And if ever there was a
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guy who had a lot on his plate, it's Greg Palast.
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He is an election ninja, and he can talk about
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the different ways in which there is voter suppression going on.
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He's sort of made that the mother's milk of a
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lot of his investigative work until this point. But obviously
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there are now new creative ways to both suppress votes,
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eliminate votes, dry clean the voter rolls of those who
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have the right to vote. And then finally, as we've
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seen just last night, there are ways to buy votes.
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get to Greg Palast a little bit later. So I
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have much to get to. Your comments. We're a live show.
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All you have to do is click and join. And again,
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We consider all of you who listen, who watch, all
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of you to be among the elite in America. You
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hear a lot about the elite. This is a separate
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category of elite. Kelly Malloy, welcome back. $ 5 super sticker.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you. Kelly... losing his father, Tom,
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who was a longtime viewer of the show, Tom Malloy.
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And so we are all still mourning that, but really
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encouraged by seeing Kelly back in the mix. I've got
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a lot to get to, so I'm just going to
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try to get to it right away. There was that
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Trumpapalooza event where essentially it was like an RNC convention,
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but before the midterms, and you had Donald Trump buying
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or trying to buy votes, offering this $ 5, 000. I'm laughing
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because it's such a desperate Hail Mary play. It speaks
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to how Trump knows that he's in trouble. But I'll
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give you a full heaping portion of all of that
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in a little while. Also, the most bizarre Trump endorsement
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of Ken Paxton. I don't know if you've noticed the
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way he's been endorsing Ken Paxton, but he's been doing
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it in this odd way that I will share with
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you in a couple of minutes as well. Hey, Gordon,
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thank you for a $ 2 super sticker. Yeah, super stickers
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and super chats are happening too, so you can do
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that live. You can also do it in after hours commenting.
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We read all your comments. Please, most people watch this
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show after the live show is done, and please add
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your comments, and I take very much to heart much
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of what you say, sometimes too much to heart, and
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also helps us in the world of YouTube. If you
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get any kind of comment, it just shows audience engagement,
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and that helps just support the show as well. So let's,
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without any further delay, Albert, if you are ready, we
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will get things underway. I wanted to mention that.
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It's not all Trump and buying votes. I will get
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to that. But Trump's day didn't start well yesterday. Here's
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a guy who's languishing in the 30s in terms of
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We chronicle it in a segment that we like to
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call Chunk of Trump. Open wide. Ready?
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Here comes your chunk of Trump.
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It's my favorite food.
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With your first bite, here's Mark Thompson.
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I have a feeling it's going to be beautiful. Don't
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let the little production element fool you. We consider it
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all deadly serious. But by the same token, it's Trump-centric.
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to his Qatari flying palace, you know, the thing that
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something that is specifically prohibited in the Constitution, which is
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why the workaround was, well, the Pentagon, it's a gift
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to the Pentagon, the Pentagon's going to use it. And then,
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of course, we, you and I, paid almost a billion
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dollars to secure it And apparently it's still not completely secure,
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new Air Force One. That $ 400 million gift from Qatar
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inflated and deployed. ABC's Mary Bruce there watching it all.
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deployed from the opposite side of the plane.
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Mary then spotting the old Air Force One pulling up
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behind the cutter gifted jet a possible backup. The president
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with this explanation.
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The president eventually boarding the Qatari-gifted jet and taking off
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for Dallas. Tonight, with President Trump's approval rating at a
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record low 33%, some Republicans in tough races skipping the convention.
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The president knows the war with Iran, now in its
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seventh month, is deeply unpopular. Now offering yet another timeline
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for when it will all end.
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I think the war will end immediately after the election.
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because they can't hold out any longer.
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He insists the price of gas, now at $ 4. 26 a gallon,
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They're going to be tumbling down, and we'll get them down.
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I think for gasoline, we'll get them below $ 2 a gallon.
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Yes. The gas prices are tumbling so low, they'll be
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paying you to get gas, but it won't happen until
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after the midterms. The thin quality of Trump lies, now
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I would think everybody's hip to, but he continues to
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crank it. It's just an unstoppable reflex move that Trump makes.
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It's clearly absurd, right? We know that, A, the price
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of gas isn't going to drop to $ 2, B, It's
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very likely that the price of gas will continue to
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escalate as his intractable situation in the Middle East continues
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to be one that shows no signs of a resolution.
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I will say that Trump was consistent. Trump feels everything
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is going to get better after the midterms. If you'll
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just vote Republican in the midterms, everything's going to get better.
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And this was a consistent feature of his speech and
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a consistent feature of his messaging. It was all at Trumpapalooza,
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the event from last night at which he is the
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keynote speaker two nights in a row. I mean, it's just, again,
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this is lavishing praise on someone who can't possibly get
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enough praise. It's a huge ego play. And to be fair,
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in some cases, like the case of Paxton in Texas,
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maybe Trump is saying the thing that's needed to motivate
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the base to come out. He's trying to get that
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base to come out. So I'll get to the payoff
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in a moment, but his big message is, vote as
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though I'm on the ballot. It's cut three. He wants
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everybody to remember, even though he's not on the ballot, vote,
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pretend that I am on the ballot.
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A president, Democrat or Republican, almost never wins the midterms.
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We've got to change that because we have something going
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that's so good, we can't let that string be broken.
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So I'm asking you to pretend that I'm on the ballot.
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I'm on the ballot.
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I'm on the ballot.
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Just one more time. Because if we lose, you're going
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to lose your border. You're going to lose your tax cuts.
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You're going to lose your safety and security. You're going
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to lose your wealth. Our country is going through hell.
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You will be going through hell just like you did
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just two years ago. We went through hell. We were
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a laughing stock all over the world.
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We were laughing.
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They don't laugh at us anymore, do they?
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No, they actually completely pull away from America now. it
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is something that he speaks of, uh, full-throatedly. This is
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sort of playing the hits. He's done this for a while, right?
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If they get in, those socialists, those radical liberal Democrats,
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they're going to take your schools, your health care, your God. Well,
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the reality, of course, is that Donald Trump himself has
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realized something, which is that the GOP brand is damaged.
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which is pretend I'm on the ballot. Now, it's an
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awkward message since his approval rating is so very low
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in the 30s. So pretending he's on the ballot may
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not be the cure for the illness he's trying to treat.
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And the illness is that life ain't good right now.
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under Joe Biden. Well, those look like golden days compared
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to what's happened over the last couple of years here.
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You've seen health care rollbacks that are really going to
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kick in after the midterms. You've seen the price of
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gas skyrocket. You've seen these ridiculous tariffs and trade wars
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begin out of nowhere, even with trade agreements that were
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already settled. I'm talking about the one with Canada. So
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this is a An administration that is chaotically pursuing any
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number of things that are radically making life worse for
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consumers and voters. So, again, his message is somewhat hollow
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when he talks about vote GOP and pretend I'm on
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the ballot. But maybe that wasn't enough because he really
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tried to stick the landings. with a wild way in
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which he's trying to get this crew and all voters
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out there to vote GOP. It's cut to.
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Because we've done so well and because our country is
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making so much money that only I can make this
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promise to you.
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And here is my promise.
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If the Republicans win the House of Representatives and the
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United States Senate, both of them, because of our economic,
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tremendous economic success, like in history, we've never had anything
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like what's happening.
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Tremendous strength and success economically, I.
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Will issue a dividend to every adult citizen.
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In the United States of America for $ 5, 000.
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Besant clapping and smiling has to realize the ridiculousness of this.
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Very much like.
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A successful company will do a cash distribution to its shareholders.
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Or like last year when I gave our great members
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of the military, 1,776, remember?
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Yeah. So many things to say about this. I'll just
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start at the first, which may be something that sprang
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to mind when you watched it, which is, isn't that illegal,
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offering money for a vote? Well, there are a lot
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of ways to spend it. And you can spin it
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as– he wasn't really offering money for a vote. He
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was saying that you will participate in the prosperity that
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will follow if you vote Republican in the midterms. You
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can see how you can do the shimmy easily and
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kind of avoid that. But we'll ask David Katz, the
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former federal prosecutor, and– brilliant legal analyst about that. But
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the other thing, well, if you were to offer $ 5, 000
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adults in the United States of America, it would be
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a 1.3 trillion. I thought I was guessing 1.25 and
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it's 1.3. So I was very proud of myself today, but, uh,
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It is ridiculous. Yes, thank you. It's ludicrous. Thank you.
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I don't know where to begin with how ludicrous it is.
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First of all, you know it's a lie, right? It's
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an utter absurdity, one more crazy lie, and one more
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crazy promise that Trump won't deliver on. And I say
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this because look at his first lie. I mean, when
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he— hooked everybody up with Doge. He cooked up Doge
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out of nowhere. He gave Elon Musk's crew, a bunch
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of 18 to 26-year-olds, he gave them all access to
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all of these government agencies and allowed them to scrape
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government computers for all of this information, everything from social
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security to tax information, etc., and leave that aside. Do
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you remember, let's just get back to the money, the
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Checks that were going to come. Do you remember the
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Doge checks? He talked about it. All the money that
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Doge was going to save us was going to come
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to us in the form of Doge payouts. Well, as
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you know, Doge didn't save any money, cost tens of
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thousands of people their jobs, cost maybe hundreds of thousands
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of lives worldwide as USAID was closed. And what you
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saw in Trump there was this. which is a total lie.
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We're going to save you all this money, and then
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you're going to get this check from us. We're all
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getting 5K. It will be in the mail right after
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the $ 2, 000. There it is, Doge rebate and the $ 1, 500
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tariff rebate. Thank you, Western Florida. That's exactly right. That
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was the next thing I was going to get to.
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The tariff rebate. These tariffs are terrific. They're going to
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be levied on... foreign governments when, of course, the reality
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is there are attacks that are levied on the American people,
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and we're going to get checks. Well, where are those checks?
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This is absurd. It's so clearly a lie that I
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can't imagine anyone believes it. And lastly, I'd say this.
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If you want to give us a check for $ 5, 000,
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or for any amount, you can do it. You have
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control of the House and the Senate, and you will
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sign that legislation into law. You can appropriate that money
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right now. So this whole idea is if you vote
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us in and we have control of the Senate and
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the House, then I'll give you the $ 5, 000. I mean,
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that's the, as again, I always call it the clunkiest con,
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but the clunky con won him the presidency twice. So,
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I mean, maybe there are people gullible enough to believe
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this crap, but the reality is you, Trump, dude, you
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have the whole government under your control. If you really
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wanted to send checks for any amount, to voters for
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any reason. Voters, adults, families, however you want to, you
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can do it. You're the president and you have control
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of both houses now. It's one more absurd thing that
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he throws out there. And to me, it's a Hail
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Mary pass. It really speaks to how desperate he is.
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Now they're going to try everything on this coming election.
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I mean, there is an attempt to bribe voters. They're
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going to try to Manipulate outcomes, not honor outcomes. Talk
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about the fact that there is a cloud of controversy
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around mail-in balloting. There's going to be a cloud of
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controversy about whatever results. They're going to try everything to
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not honor the results. But this $ 5, 000 thing, it's a
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Hail Mary pass from a BS artist who was on
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10 last night. The BS was just pouring out, and
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he wasn't alone. J.D. Vance, of course, has called upon
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his vice president, a guy who once called Trump America's Hitler, J.D.
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Vance has called upon to kind of explain the $ 5, 000 offer.
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You know, explain how this would work. And the Fox
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people in the question, I'll play it for you right now,
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actually go to, boy, does this pencil out exactly, you know,
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your critics would say this is maybe adding a lot
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to the deficit. Maybe you can explain it. It's cut 12.
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If we do that, we're going to do just fine.
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So, Mr.
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Vice President, I heard the Trump dividend raised some eyebrows. $ 5, 000
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for every adult citizen if the House wins.
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Wait, it raised my eyebrows and both hands went up
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at the same time.
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You guys don't need it.
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This is for the American middle class.
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But if the Republicans win the House, $ 5, 000 for every
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adult citizen.
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So you do the quick math. That's about $ 1.
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3 trillion.
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I can hear the critics' heads exploding.
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They're saying out loud, I guarantee you, The president is
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bribing voters to vote for Republicans to take over the House.
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And then he's bankrupting the country because the deficit debt
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is huge and inflation would come back if this comes
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into play.
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So how do you answer those criticisms?
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Well, I say, first of all, what the president's talking
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about is fundamentally a dividend for American workers. We're taking
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in an extraordinary amount of revenue because the President of
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the United States is actually standing up to both foreign companies,
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but also foreign countries who've been taking advantage of America's
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workers for pretty much my entire life. All of these tariffs,
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what is a tariff, Brett? A tariff is when the
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President of the United States says, if you want to
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undercut the wages of American workers, if you want to
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ship American jobs overseas, you're going to pay a big
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fat penalty when you try to bring that stuff back
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into the United States of America. Those penalties have generated
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a lot of revenues. They've helped us pay down debt.
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What the president is just saying is if you keep
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it going to the American people, if you keep us
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in power and allow us to continue to do these things,
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then you're going to share in some of the benefit
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of this incredible wealth that we're creating in the United
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States of America. I don't think it's a controversial idea.
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It's actually the president of the United States saying we're
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all working together. We're all on the same team. And
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if we continue to create wealth, that wealth is going
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to go back to the American people.
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Yeah, and what you're basically seeing there is J.D. Vance's
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spin on it, right? He's trying to sell the idea
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that there's already been such prosperity, and if you want
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it to continue, that's the prosperity from which we will
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draw the $ 5, 000 per American. It's absurd, right? We know
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that there is no prosperity. In fact, if you want
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to talk about a spend, you're spending all of our
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money right now on an illegal war. on a war
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of choice in the Middle East. This is a crew
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that wants a trillion and a half dollars for a
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military that is hip deep in disorganized chaos, getting rid
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of people who are women, people of color. There is
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an absurdity to the idea somehow that there's such great
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prosperity in America and The way in which Donald Trump
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talks about the fact that, you know, we're respected now,
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respected now. I just told you the story earlier in
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the week about how Holland is pulling all their gold
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out of the United States. There was another story today,
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how treasury bonds are being unloaded and foreign governments are saying,
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we just feel like we're over leveraged with US treasury bonds.
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This is increasingly a country, the United States, and Trump
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has done it in a very short time, that's got
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10-foot pole marks all over it. I mean, people just
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don't want to get near it in foreign governments that
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are now finding new ways to build coalitions, defense, economic coalitions.
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I'm talking about a NATO, perhaps, realliance, the G20, maybe even, again,
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an organization within NATO. That is finding ways to engineer
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life without depending on an undependable partner. That's the United States.
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An impulsive, chaotic president who they can't count on. But man,
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it was a Trump fest last night. And that's the
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way I see it. But man, if you want some praise,
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it was not in short supply. Play me Scott Besant.
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I thought Scott Besant needs to kind of workshop this
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speech a little bit more. It was a little bit too, uh, wah, wah, wah.
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It's cut 13. We've gone from auto pen to overdrive. Oh,
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I get it.
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From a president who couldn't stay awake to a president
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who refuses to sleep.
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We've gone. Uh, that's Scott Besant. The, uh, crazy, I
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have one more Trump cut in a moment and it's,
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it speaks to what I was talking about, the bizarre
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way in which he endorses Ken Paxton. You'll get to
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it in a second. But the craziest, uh, stump speech
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of the night that I saw was from Tim Scott.
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As you know, Tim Scott just crawls so far up
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Donald Trump's rear and He is out there swinging his
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arms and speaking his truth, I guess. It's cut 15.
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And if you think this.
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Group is really bad, this midterm, we face the most dangerous, radical,
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and frankly, weird Democrat candidates in American history.
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I mean, if it were performance of any kind, I
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would say performance.
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I love what you're doing. Can you, let's try one.
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Let's just take it back 50%. Okay. Just take it
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back a full 50%. The other thing I would say
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from a substantive standpoint is it really bums me out
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where we are now. This hyper-partisan environment that is, they
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hate this. They talk about the Democrats in this way
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that suggests they're intruders. You know, they're somehow the Democrats
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are the big obstacle for having the world the way
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they want it. And I understand on some level you
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could say, well, that's true. From a policy standpoint and
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from a philosophy standpoint, okay. But the way that the
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Democrats are demonized with rhetoric like that, I mean, that rhetoric,
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if you throw German into it, it's basically a Hitlerian speech.
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I mean, go back and actually watch with... subtitles, a
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lot of the old Third Reich speeches. It's that kind
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of thing. And the passion, and you can talk about
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the passion. I mean, he is, he's spitting hate. So
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that's the thing that substantively bothers me. Now, I think
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it's a joke. I mean, but again, to me, like
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who can take this seriously? But I mean, apparently the
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crowd lapsed that up. And finally, I leave you with
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this in chunk of Trump. It is wild to watch
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the weird way in which Donald Trump endorses Ken Paxton.
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So he really wants Ken Paxton to win, and Tallarico
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is a brilliant candidate in Texas. And Paxton is horribly corrupt.
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He is a real problem candidate. I'll remind you that
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eight people in his office came forward in just one
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incident and resigned and blew the whistle on corruption. in
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his office. So that's just one thing. A lot of
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the stuff we know, just as an aside, came out
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in his divorce. And once the divorce started, his wife
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at the time, soon to be ex-wife then, she just
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spilled the tea. So that's how we know a lot
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of this corruption stuff. But as I say, eight people
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in his office came forward. It's not like we didn't
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know anything. Anyway, back to the endorsement that Trump makes.
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So Paxton I guess Trump doesn't like the way he looks,
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and he always prefaces— Image is hideous. He prefaces the
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endorsement of Paxton always. I can't find any time that
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he endorses Paxton without this preamble about, I know he
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doesn't look great, I know his suits are bad, but
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you have to look past that. He's got a weird face.
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I mean, it's crazy. Here is one example, Trump endorsing Paxton.
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And I have to say this about Ken.
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It's so insulting.
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You know, I hope he doesn't get insulted.
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They said, sure, you can't say that.
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I said, I have to.
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They didn't even put it on the teleprompter, but I
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don't use the teleprompter that much.
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They said, sure, you can't say it.
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You just please.
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It's not good. But I said it once before and
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he went through the roof.
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I got to say it again.
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So they just said how wonderful he is and how
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we have to, but I said it a little differently
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because the fact is that some may not.
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Like the way he dresses.
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I don't.
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Although tonight he looked very spiffy in his blue suit,
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I must tell you.
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But they may not like the way he talks.
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I can see that, you know, not everybody.
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A lot of people don't like the way I talk either,
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but we do get crowds.
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There's no question.
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And then they say, you can't say this, sir. That's
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so insulting. Please, sir. These are my analysts that get
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a lot of money for telling me a lot of nonsense. Sir,
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please don't say. So I talked about dress. I talked
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about talk.
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And I even said this.
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You know, some people don't like the way I look either.
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You may not like the way he looks.
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But here's the news.
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In the history of Texas, he is the single greatest
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attorney general you've ever had.
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That's utterly ridiculous. But I love the ramp up to...
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his endorsement, which is just filled with all of this
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stuff that clearly bothers Trump. You know, it doesn't dress well,
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doesn't look good. You know, it doesn't talk the right way.
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I mean, clearly Trump who really responds to those things
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that are most superficial. He hates Paxton to the core,
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it would seem, but he knows he needs Paxton, so
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he talks about he's the best attorney general, even though,
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as I've described, his attorney generalship has been fraught with
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all kinds of issues involving criminality and corruption. I have
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more from that Trumpapalooza event. involving Fetterman and a lot
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more than some reaction from Democrats. But for now, that
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is your chunk of Trump.
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That's it for this edition.
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Well, I really enjoyed it.
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But make sure to join us again next time.
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I think you might want to listen.
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There's nothing wrong with listening.
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For another chunk of Trump.
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The Mark Thompson Show.
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You know who showed up at that convention last night
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via video? Was, uh, was John Fetterman.
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What?
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Yeah, the Pennsylvania senator. He was in a video that
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ran and, uh, It was not, as you can imagine,
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particularly well received by Democrats who feel probably accurately that
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this guy, we helped get him elected. And then he
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had this stroke and he had mental health issues. Depression
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was something that hospitalized him for a time. And since
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all of that, he's come out and he's essentially been
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very GOP-ish. And so... to see him show up at
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this GOP convention before the midterms on this video was
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like a cold slap in the face. So Madeline Dean,
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who's a congressperson from Pennsylvania, right, that's the Fetterman state,
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she responded to his presence, even via video, last night
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at that mini convention. It's cut four.
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In terms of Senator Fetterman, I know, and I like
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John Fetterman, but he lost me last night with that stunt. He,
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like me, should be talking about how do we make
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life more affordable for Americans? How do we make sure
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that the gas prices go down as a result of
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ending this reckless, chaotic, incoherent war? How do we end
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the trade war with Canada and other allies? Everything that
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this administration touches has made life more expensive, less affordable,
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cost of living, whether it's gas, groceries, utilities, housing, you
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name it, is through the roof. So we're here to
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point out the farce, uh, the farcical. And obviously it's,
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you heard just some of the words of the president
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last night.
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Uh, they are weak.
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They recognize they are losing to the point where he's
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going to try to bribe people to vote, uh, for Republicans.
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It's not going to work.
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And I want to get to some of the comments.
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It likely, uh, won't work. Um, as I say, it
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was a Hail Mary pass the $ 5, 000 pitch, but, uh,
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I put it alongside all the other promises, the Doge checks,
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the tariff checks, everything we were going to get. But
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Trump keeps serving it up, and as long as some
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portion of the electorate elapses it up, maybe it's still
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a good play. I think there's no horsepower left in
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that engine, but he keeps trying to start it. I
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would say that the Fetterman thing is perplexing. It feels
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like he's been bought and paid for, and the fact
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that he was at that convention, there's a tokenism to it.
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So it was just a weird, there were a couple
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of other people and then I'll move on from this
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convention thing. But I thought, what do you have up
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in the gate, Albert? This guy's really good. But this
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is about, I think this is about, I want to
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say it's about Hegseth. Isn't that what this is? Yeah,
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I think it is. So before I get to that,
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I wanted to just mention that Adam Carolla was at
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the convention. I know, he's everybody's working man pal. You know,
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Adam is funny, and it's hard not to like funny,
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and he also sort of makes these common sense type
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judgments about things, like, you know, how come it takes
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so long to build this in California? He's very informed
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by the frustration one feels in California when you try
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to build something, particularly at the beach, Now you're trying
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to build back after Malibu and the fires. And it's very,
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very difficult, given all of the restrictions, environmental and others,
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to build back quickly. And so that's really informed a
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lot of what Corolla is about. But one of the things— well,
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I'll play this first from Adam. It's cut in nine,
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and he kind of speaks to this. Just too many
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rules on things. And again, it sounds common sense, but
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then he— He doubles back in the next cut. So
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we'll start with this one. Cut nine, please.
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And there's no rebuilding because of overburdensome regulations and red
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tape and building codes.
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Too many rules. Too many rules.
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And I think if you want to encapsulate it, you
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can just picture the sign that used to be the
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beach in Southern California. When you walked onto that sand
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50 years ago, it just said no bonfires. And now
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it says no fireworks and now no alcohol and no
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dogs and.
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No smoking and no Frisbee and no fun. And then
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they close it for COVID. The point is, is they
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never take anything off the sign. They just add a
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new rule onto the sign until you have no freedom
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at all.
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So that's the, and he waits for applause. Okay, so
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I get it. That's the, and again, that's very much
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informed by his desire to build in areas that are,
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to be fair, really encumbered by all this stuff and
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all these regulations. In California, it's very difficult to build
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by the coast, but Here's where Carolla, I just think, sadly,
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falls into this lazy kind of name-calling thing that is
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very much part of what the GOP and the right
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is doing right now. It's cut, what is it, eight, please.
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Tonight with a land acknowledgement.
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This is the greatest land in the history of mankind.
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And if that bothers.
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You, you, your communist.
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And hippie buddies should get the.
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Hell off it.
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And so that sounds really good. And there's a nationalism
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and a pride that starts with this is the best
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country ever, the best system ever, we're the best people ever, whatever.
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There's a, I get what's going on there. But again,
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you and your communist, hippie friends should just, I mean, communist,
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hippie friends? Is this 1968 all over again? The laziness
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of that, the name-calling, it's not even name-calling from today.
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It's name-calling from 1968. Again, they've dusted off this commie thing. And,
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you know, if you actually look at who is the communist,
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that is to say, who is taking over the means
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of production, the government, taking over means of production. In
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this case, technologies would be means of production. You look
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at the way that Donald Trump has bellied up to
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the bar, taken a big piece of intel. I mean,
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you can build, Google it, the list of companies that
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our government now has a piece of. I mean, that
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is communist. That is communism taking over private industry. That
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is what a communist regime is about. So I'm just saying,
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on the merits, it's a bad thing.
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Bust.
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But it's also just lazy. And hippie? Your communist hippie pal?
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And I almost wondered, because Adam is so funny. I'm thinking,
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is that a joke? Your commie hippie pals can go home? It's, again,
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it's from another world, and it seems to just marshal
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this kind of resentment, but in sort of a clunky way.
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I'm really surprised, because I think Adam is very funny.
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But man, I feel as though this commie hippie thing. Uh,
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you know, you can just go live somewhere else. You
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commie hippies. I feel as though that really just, um,
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misses the mark. Uh, and before I move on, Kim
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very much recommended a cut. I know we've got a
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lot of cuts of video cuts today, but I just
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wanted to get to as many as I could. Um,
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very much recommended something from Hillary Clinton. I haven't seen
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this yet, but Kim really likes it. So, um, You
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remember Hillary Clinton? Does everybody remember who Hillary Clinton is? Yeah,
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I just want to just.
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OK.
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All right. Doesn't need any setup is my point. OK,
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here's Hillary Clinton. And that's cut 14.
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Time that Article five, the NATO charter was enacted, was
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to help the United States after those terror attacks. And
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as secretary of state, you surely know the importance of alliances.
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And we're seeing them straining now. Trade war with Canada,
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the trade war in Europe, the. ventures on Greenland, you know,
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of leaving Europe to largely stand up with Ukraine alone.
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The list sort of goes on and on. President Biden
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was fond of telling a story that when he won
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that he said, you know, America's back. And French President
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Macron said, for how long? That has now been tested
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even more so because of Trump's return. Do you think
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whoever the next president is, can these alliances actually be saved?
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Can America be trusted again?
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Well, the first question is, can they be saved? That's
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going to take a heck of a lot of work.
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I think it's doable. Can we be trusted again? We
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have to prove, you know, prove it.
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Yeah.
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You know, and and we have to get to the trust,
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but verify and then get beyond it. I think, Jonathan,
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that it is doable. Look, right now, we're not a
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serious country. We're a dangerous country. We're causing all kinds
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of problems in the world. We're making ridiculous, you know, stands.
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We're picking things. with our best friends. We're threatening our
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best friends. We're giving passes to those who wish us ill.
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I mean, we are not a serious country and we
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don't have serious leadership. If we do again, I think
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we can actually make progress. I remember when, you know,
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then President-elect Obama was trying to persuade me to be
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Secretary of State. He said, look, I have a financial crisis,
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which is the worst since the Great Depression. And we
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have fractured a lot of our alliances because of Iraq
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and Afghanistan. and the axis of evil and all of that.
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And he said, I can't do both. So I need
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to focus on the economy. I want you to be
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secretary of state and get on a plane and go
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around and try to start reassuring. And that was primarily
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in Asia because, you know, ever.
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Well, I traveled everywhere. I did.
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And we needed to. And it wasn't enough to do
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a Zoom. We didn't have Zooms back then, but a
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video conference.
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Send a fax.
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Yeah.
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You know, we had to show up and we had
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to look people in the eye and say, you know,
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what can America do for you? How can America be
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your partner? How can we, you know, forge a better future?
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And we did it and we worked hard at it.
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And we also produced, you know, some positive results that
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were then torn up, whether it was, you know, the
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the Iran nuclear deal, which wasn't perfect.
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I said it at the time.
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But by God, it was a great experience. foundation for
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then going after ballistic missiles and, you know, bad behavior
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in the neighborhood and all the rest of it.
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We had the Paris Accord.
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You know, climate change hasn't gone away just because, you know,
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Donald Trump wishes it away. We actually did things. And
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part of the challenge now is to rebuild enough trust
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that we can start to work together. So if you
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look at Europe right now, Europe has to get its
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act together and it's very difficult for it to do so.
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And I think the Nordic countries, the Baltic countries, Poland
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and others are right to be worried about Russia. I
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think they have every reason to be. If your father
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were here, he'd be sounding the alarm as loudly.
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As he could.
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And so they can't do this by themselves, in part
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because we have capabilities they don't. But we also provide
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the glue that gets everybody in that room to figure
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out how we can work together.
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So.
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Look, it's hard work.
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It's, you know, the hard boring of hard boards, as
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Max Weber used to say about politics.
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It's going to be hard.
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But if we get the right president, but we shouldn't
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wait till then. If we win the midterms, what I
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have urged is that the House and the Senate begin
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to pass legislation and look for bipartisanship on a lot
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of legislation. You know, I can't imagine that the Republican
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governors and senators and House members in our states that
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border Canada, and there are a bunch of them, are
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happy about what's going to happen to their economies. So
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there is the, you know, they're the seeds of bipartisanship.
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And I think a lot of members of Congress who, frankly,
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know better, but have been intimidated and and gone along
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with Trump will be relieved. So the right leadership in
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the Congress, the right leadership in the White House, it'll
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take time, but I think we can rebuild.
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Well, well, there you go.
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And that was just a really coherent summary of where
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we are. I think she states it so beautifully, frankly,
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when she talks about the fact that we're not a
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serious country. And by the way, I saw a comment
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in there that she was saying that we're the— it was
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about dangerous. No, we're not the most dangerous country, says Red. Yeah, no,
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she didn't say we're the most dangerous. She said we're
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now— she was talking about America's power and speaking to the
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fact that, you know, America is still incredibly relevant and
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America is still dangerous, meaning our power can be flexed
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in all the ways that we've seen it flexed. And
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that does make us a dangerous— she didn't say the most
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dangerous country. I thought she made a good point from
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the standpoint of, you know, you can feel that power
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if you're Donald Trump. And I think that's what she
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was saying. He's kind of done. Thank you, Red. And
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I love you, Mark, from Ohio. But what I do
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think is that when you run into someone like Hillary Clinton,
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who has a considered– and complete view of things. And
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you couldn't view her in all of these different ways, uh,
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that I, that I can just hear, uh, this, uh,
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sort of, um, she, you know, uh, the bought and
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paid for institutional Democrat. I mean, right now I feel
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like she's much closer to magnetic north on America than
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this crew is. And this crew is really filled with
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incompetence who at best look good, like a Pete Hegseth,
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but have no idea what they're doing. And you've got
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a president who, you know, has us in real big trouble.
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But it was interesting to hear from a secretary of state.
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I mean, she really understands these alliances and relationships, what
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the future might be and what it needs to be
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and how it might be a big lift, but it
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can happen.
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All right.
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I'm going to get to David Katz in a moment.
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I am going to, um, because I live out loud
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with all of you, I will tell you this, um, Normally,
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Albert will back me up on this. Albert, thank you.
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I don't take any breaks at all through the show.
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There are no bathroom breaks or anything typical. But if
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you need to go to the bathroom, it's fine. We
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just don't normally take it. But today, I need to
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take a break, and I have a broken ankle. So
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it takes me longer to get to the restrooms. And
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so you'll spare me. We can play a sweeper or
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Kim can do a Coachella Valley spot, remind us of
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our partners and sponsor, Coachella Valley Coffee. And then I
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will be back in short order and we'll get to
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cracking with David Katz. Meantime, please smash the like button
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if you would.
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Smash it with your iron rod.
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We worked hard to bring you a lot of clips today,
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a lot of clips of GOP viewpoints, a lot of
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clips of Democratic viewpoints as well. And I appreciate the
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thumbs up and any comments you have, the back and
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forth I always love. And so as we all wait
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for our $ 5, 000 checks that will be coming after the midterms,
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and of course the way the price of gas will
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go down to $ 2 a gallon after the midterms, we
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can rejoice and smash.
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Smash it with your iron rod.
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Yeah, smash at the same time. So thank you. Mark
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Thompson Show. The Mark Thompson Show. Do I play a
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sweeper here or does Kim do her? Okay. You'll do that.
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And I'll play the sweeper.
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Okay. Good deal. I might be back in time. All right.
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Okay.
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Well, good, because we have David Katz waiting in the wings.
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But before we get to David Katz and ask him
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let us know what you think as well our email
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address is the mark thompson show at gmail.com and then
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of course it is coachella valley coffee.com is the website
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and the checkout code is mark.
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T The Mark Thompson Show.
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Who's Mark Thompson?
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Feels great, baby.
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Let me kick down the door and talk to my
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cheap sons and daughters.
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No context will suffice to explain the hurt and anguish
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caused by my words. I apologize to all who have been.
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Hurt, I stand corrected.
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I misspoke.
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My words upset so many people.
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And I wanted to apologize to the Asian community, the
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Asian American community.
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God bless America.
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The end.
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There's never been anything like this. Do I hit it long?
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Is Trump strong?
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Who is having that conversation? is fantastic.
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That's not fake.
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That's real.
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The science is ridiculous.
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Listen to me.
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I don't want to hear you.
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You cannot say you love your country.
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Where are my weed smokers at?
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This is a word from the Lord, and he's not happy.
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There is no defense for my conduct.
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It was wrong, it was stupid, and I'm trying to.
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Be a better person.
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Don't ever use that word.
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You get nothing!
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What's a guilty pleasure here, though?
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Seriously, what the f.
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I love it. Thank you for that little interlude. And now,
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without any further delay, I want to welcome into our
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midst someone who is one of the great legal analysts
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in the English-speaking world. He is here on Thursday. So
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thank you to our Patreon and PayPal supporters. You saw
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it there. You can click to either and be part
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of our community that supports independent media. And a couple
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of you have even... jutted us notes and wanted to
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send us checks, you can do that at themarkthompsonshowatgmail.com, themarkthompsonshowatgmail.com,
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and I'll send you back the address. You can send that. Anyway,
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as I was saying, he's one of the great legal
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analysts in the English-speaking world, and you can find him
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here on Thursdays, generous with his time, the former federal prosecutor,
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now defense attorney in California. He is David Katz, everyone. Hello, sir.
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Great to be with you, Mark. Mark. Mark, are you
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going to have me followed again by the comedian who
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points out to your audience that I am not only
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a much younger but better-looking version of Mel Brooks?
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I never had seen that in you before. And then
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after he pointed it out, I thought, oh, my God.
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Did you see the picture he posted? Albert found a picture,
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I think.
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I like the first one, not the second.
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One so much.
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I agree with you. I agree. I agree.
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I agree.
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But to be fair, this is a guy who is,
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in Mel Brooks, I think easily 35 years older than
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you are.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. All right. Yeah, there is. I don't think
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that even that, I don't think it's quite. There was
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another picture that looked really spot on.
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But for Halloween, Halloween, I'm going to wear a black
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shirt and a white jacket like that and a tie
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that looks somewhat. And I will come as Mel Brooks,
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who's not my dad. You know, I got this at
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a party one time, but the person who stumbled into
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me and started to say that was very drunk, which
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is not a defense your comedian has. I don't think
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he was actually very funny. And you pointed out that
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I'm a swimmer and I swim five miles a day. Uh,
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not every day, uh, but I do take a log
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swim and it keeps you in great health. Yeah.
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You really, you've got, uh, you've got a, an athlete.
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Everybody is younger than Mel Brooks.
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You've got an athlete's presence.
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There's a guy in Japan. There's a guy in Japan,
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probably not younger than Mel Brooks.
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Uh, I've got so much to get to today and
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I've got Greg Palast waiting. So here's what I want
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to do just to tell Tim, uh, Kim, I've already
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sent or asked that, uh, Palace be told that we're
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running a few minutes behind, so I just want to
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let you know that that is the case. We can
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get to some stuff with Counselor Katz. David Katz, as
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a great legal analyst, people were on me to ask you,
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and I think I've kind of already explained how they
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could get around it being this, how the $ 5, 000 check
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is that was offered by Trump if the Republicans win
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both the Senate and House at midterms, how that check
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that he promised would then be sent to all adults
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in America, how that isn't a bribe for a vote.
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Can you take this question?
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Well, now that the U.S. Supreme Court has given him
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that monstrous presidential immunity ruling, it's really hard to imagine
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what he can't do. And there's also the idea of
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a self-pardon for himself or some game where he steps
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aside for two hours while he's getting surgery and Vance
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then as the acting president pardons him. So the reality
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is that you can't expect that he's going to be
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held to some legal standard where he gets thrown in
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prison like somebody else would because the conduct constitutes all
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the elements of bribery. I suppose his defense, you know,
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I am a criminal defense attorney. And, you know, I
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always thought that Trump might be my client, not my president.
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But then what happened happened. But, you know, as a client,
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I guess Trump would be advised that you could probably
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get away with it. You know, Musk got very close
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to the line in giving a bribe in Wisconsin.
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Musk might have gotten closer, don't you think?
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Yeah, he got closer and they eventually declined prosecution of him,
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I understand. And I don't know if Trump had advice
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of counsel. I'm sure Musk, with all of his money,
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had advice of counsel, how he could just skirt the
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law up in Wisconsin. But anyway, Trump would say that
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what I mean is that the economy will be so
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much better that you'll all have $ 5, 000 more in your pocket,
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but only if the Republicans win. Of course, ignoring the
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history that in the last two years under Trump, all
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the people, Democrats and Republicans, have less money in their pocket,
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almost without exception, because His tariff policies have raised prices.
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His idiotic war going nowhere in Iran have, of course,
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boosted oil prices, the gas pump, everything. So we all
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have a lot less money in our pocket, thanks to him.
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And anyone who believes that they'll have more money in
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their pocket if Trump and the Republicans win the midterms,
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what's he saying? What would Mel Brooks say? I have
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a Bridget book that I'd like to sell you.
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Yeah, I... I think there are a lot of ways
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to spin it where it doesn't end up being a bribe,
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even though it clearly was in that general arena of
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a bribe. The Supreme Court, with an interesting decision, David Katz,
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there was a redistricting that was to give the GOP
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another congressional seat in Missouri, but the Supreme Court saying that...
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you can't use that Republican-friendly map. You have to go
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back to a map that isn't as Republican-friendly and may
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cost them that seat.
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Well, you know, I try to predict the U.S. Supreme Court,
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and I've done remarkably well at it, sometimes enraging your audience,
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because I predict what they're going to do, not what
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we would like them to do. I had a good
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feeling that they were going to do this. There is
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a sense that they don't want to be as this
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source of chaos. They would have been seen as an
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absolutely a source of chaos if they had ruled the
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other way. It's a little bit inside baseball, but it's
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very important what happened in Missouri. Basically, there was a
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primary that was done without getting consent from the voters
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on the redistricting. The attorney general, I guess, of the
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state said that that question does not have to be
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submitted to the voters of Missouri. It's not proper for
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a referendum. It turns out that the Missouri Supreme Court
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00:56:39.500 --> 00:56:43.050
recently said, no, it was proper for a referendum. It
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had to be decided by a referendum. The state never
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00:56:46.130 --> 00:56:49.610
did a referendum, and therefore that redistricting is no good
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until there's a redistricting of vote by referendum. That obviously
989
00:56:53.659 --> 00:56:57.730
cannot happen before the early November elections. So that means
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that there was a primary that was done, thanks to
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the state of Missouri, on different rules than the election
992
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is going to be done in November. The U.S. Supreme
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00:57:07.380 --> 00:57:09.900
Court said, we are not getting in the middle of that.
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We are not going to stop the order of the
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00:57:12.260 --> 00:57:15.780
Missouri Supreme Court. That's what they said as to state law.
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I want all of your viewers to remember and argue
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with anyone who says otherwise. that voting, even federal voting,
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00:57:22.139 --> 00:57:25.800
even voting in federal presidential elections, is by state law.
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00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:29.429
Voting is a creature of state law, so designated and
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allocated by the Constitution. So they voted 9-0. That's how
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they should vote in questions like this. It was an emergency,
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00:57:38.170 --> 00:57:40.969
you know, the shadow docket, but the shadow docket came
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out just right this time. And by having the nine
1004
00:57:43.969 --> 00:57:47.039
votes behind it, no dissenting opinions, it was like, don't
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00:57:47.059 --> 00:57:50.159
mess around, just do this. Now, The anomaly is going
1006
00:57:50.179 --> 00:57:52.219
to be how do you have a primary under one
1007
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:55.099
system and now you're going to have a general election
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00:57:55.139 --> 00:57:58.349
vote under another? They can solve that. You know, smart lawyers,
1009
00:57:58.630 --> 00:58:01.170
smart people can go to court in Missouri and they
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00:58:01.190 --> 00:58:03.530
can solve that. And if it's a matter of the
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00:58:03.570 --> 00:58:09.670
Missouri system, Secretary of State, sending out ballots. They can
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00:58:09.730 --> 00:58:12.429
revise the ballots. If some ballots have already gone out,
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00:58:12.570 --> 00:58:15.239
obviously you spend money from your state budget to comply
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00:58:15.260 --> 00:58:17.099
with the law. You send out in a week or
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00:58:17.099 --> 00:58:19.960
10 days a proper ballot. But the real issue is
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00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:23.079
whether they cut a Democrat from Kansas City out of
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00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:25.639
his seat in Congress or not. And that's what they
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00:58:25.699 --> 00:58:29.420
lost between the Missouri Supreme Court, even though it's a
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00:58:29.460 --> 00:58:34.050
Republican state, and the U.S. Supreme Court. That Democrat in
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00:58:34.110 --> 00:58:36.989
Kansas City will retain his seat. There's only six seats
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00:58:37.070 --> 00:58:39.769
that the Republicans can win in Missouri. They hoped that
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00:58:39.789 --> 00:58:42.309
they could win that seventh seat. That was the whole
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00:58:42.389 --> 00:58:45.530
purpose of the redistricting. And last thing, Missouri now is
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00:58:45.670 --> 00:58:47.929
one of those southern states, there's about seven or eight
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00:58:47.949 --> 00:58:52.289
of them, that have actually redistricted. Remember, Trump lit that candle.
1026
00:58:52.429 --> 00:58:55.590
He lit that fuse. He started Texas going. We very
1027
00:58:55.650 --> 00:59:00.909
wisely in California did not unilaterally disarm. We redistricted to
1028
00:59:00.980 --> 00:59:06.280
counteract only for certain number of years, what Texas did.
1029
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:10.320
And then Trump kept playing that game. Indiana would go
1030
00:59:10.380 --> 00:59:13.699
along with Trump, thank goodness for the good Republicans of Indiana.
1031
00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:17.579
But a lot of states caved in and they redistricted too.
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00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:19.929
So they think that when it all shakes out with
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00:59:19.989 --> 00:59:23.190
what California did with this ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court,
1034
00:59:23.829 --> 00:59:26.750
that it'll be about where it started when Trump started
1035
00:59:26.769 --> 00:59:30.340
this havoc And since he's so unpopular, uh, the house will,
1036
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:33.000
I think very clearly, I'll put it, go out on
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00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:35.260
a big limb. The house will go democratic.
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00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:40.500
Okay. Well, uh, there's a lot of talk about the
1039
00:59:40.539 --> 00:59:44.260
vote and, and it's for obvious reasons. Uh, even, you know, Trump, uh,
1040
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:47.539
had that whole Trumpapalooza event. I think there's another night
1041
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:50.159
of it tonight where he's speaking again and he's offering
1042
00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:52.380
money and he, you know, and telling you how horrible
1043
00:59:52.420 --> 00:59:55.420
the Democrats, the crazy commies, uh, the hippies are going
1044
00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:58.960
to be. Um, And it's for a good reason. Obviously,
1045
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:01.519
this is a critical midterm election. But I guess I'm
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01:00:01.539 --> 01:00:04.920
trying to explain to the audience, we will focus a
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01:00:04.940 --> 01:00:07.210
lot on the election in the next few minutes because
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01:00:07.250 --> 01:00:09.349
I think that we have Greg Palast coming on. There
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01:00:09.369 --> 01:00:11.230
are a lot of different ways in which one can
1050
01:00:11.250 --> 01:00:15.150
manipulate the outcome to these elections. And I'd say there
1051
01:00:15.170 --> 01:00:16.880
are a lot of ways to suppress the vote. And
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01:00:16.900 --> 01:00:20.280
it's sort of in that latter category that I bring
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01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:24.300
this to you, Counselor Katz. the lawsuit that is seeking
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01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:28.099
to block deployment of ICE and federal agents to polling sites.
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01:00:28.139 --> 01:00:30.960
As you know, this Mark Wayne Mullen guy who now
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01:00:31.059 --> 01:00:38.369
runs DHS, he took over after Kristi Noem, he's saying, hey,
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01:00:38.690 --> 01:00:42.130
we're not going to send ICE to polling places unless
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01:00:42.570 --> 01:00:45.869
there's a reason to. We believe that maybe someone who
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01:00:45.909 --> 01:00:49.030
shouldn't be voting is. There may be someone with an
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01:00:49.050 --> 01:00:51.800
outstanding warrant there. In other words... He's going to send
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01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:55.260
ICE agents and have an ICE presence at many of
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01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:58.010
these polling sites. So now this coalition of advocacy groups
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01:00:58.070 --> 01:01:02.969
in a Democratic-led city filing a preemptive lawsuit trying to
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01:01:03.110 --> 01:01:09.239
block that plan to deploy armed immigration and customs enforcement
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01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:12.739
agents to polling sites ahead of the midterm election. So
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01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:17.110
the lawsuit is asking... that the federal district court in Washington, D.C.
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01:01:17.570 --> 01:01:21.320
declare unlawful any plans to have armed agents at polling
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01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:26.340
places and to prohibit federal officers from carrying weapons near
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01:01:26.420 --> 01:01:29.860
voting locations or any other sites where votes are collected.
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01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:34.079
Speak to the possibility of this actually being a successful lawsuit.
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01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:38.300
Without knowing who the judge is who's assigned to the case,
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01:01:38.369 --> 01:01:42.190
that does sometimes matter. Of course, I'm not naïve. But
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01:01:42.230 --> 01:01:44.530
without knowing that, I think this lawsuit has a good
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01:01:44.590 --> 01:01:47.090
chance of succeeding. I think that they will get an
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01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:50.519
injunction which will say that you can only send ICE
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01:01:50.659 --> 01:01:54.280
agents to polling places under certain conditions. I think that
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01:01:54.320 --> 01:01:58.989
will chill excesses by ICE. We talked about the fact
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01:01:59.010 --> 01:02:01.969
that U.S. attorneys are supposed to, assistant U.S. attorneys are
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01:02:01.989 --> 01:02:04.699
supposed to go out there. I can't imagine even with
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01:02:04.739 --> 01:02:09.489
this Trumpy assistant U.S. attorneys that they may be hiring
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01:02:09.550 --> 01:02:12.869
more of. I can't imagine that many assistant U.S. attorneys
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01:02:13.170 --> 01:02:15.309
are interested in being part of that. And they wouldn't
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01:02:15.349 --> 01:02:18.110
go out there armed anyway, you know, when federal prosecutors
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01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:21.860
don't carry guns, I guess, except in certain circumstances, maybe
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01:02:21.900 --> 01:02:24.519
with threats or if they're trained. But so I'm not
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01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:27.000
that worried about the ICE agents, Mark. I think that
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01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:31.170
we've survived that likely storm. And if they're out there,
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01:02:31.989 --> 01:02:33.949
one thing that's going to chill them, I think, besides
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01:02:33.969 --> 01:02:37.730
the judge's order setting very clear parameters, is I think
1090
01:02:37.769 --> 01:02:40.320
that a lot of the swing districts and swing states
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01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:44.639
are democratic or they're kind of institutional. And so they
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01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:46.659
won't go along with that. If they show up at
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01:02:46.699 --> 01:02:50.360
a polling place in California, I expect that there'll be
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01:02:50.420 --> 01:02:55.130
sheriffs or police or people from the state attorney general's
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01:02:55.210 --> 01:02:57.630
office who will go out there, maybe with armed people,
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01:02:57.929 --> 01:03:00.010
to counteract them and see what they're doing. And this
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01:03:00.090 --> 01:03:02.809
idea they're going to execute a warrant, that's sort of unbelievable.
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01:03:03.090 --> 01:03:06.360
We heard that, you know, Jose Jimenez is online waiting
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01:03:06.409 --> 01:03:10.019
to vote and there's a warrant for a traffic violation
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01:03:10.059 --> 01:03:11.940
of his, so we're going to go arrest him while
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01:03:11.980 --> 01:03:15.699
he's online to vote. That seems like a totally made
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01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:18.440
up thing, like the unless language that you just used.
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01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:21.480
So I just don't think that's going to be a
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01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:24.199
major problem. I think it's more to deter people and
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01:03:24.260 --> 01:03:26.210
no one should be deterred. If you don't have a
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01:03:26.250 --> 01:03:28.780
right to vote in a federal election, Don't vote, for
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01:03:28.820 --> 01:03:30.760
God's sake. If you do have a right to vote
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01:03:30.780 --> 01:03:33.559
in the federal election, turn out and vote. Let every
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01:03:33.719 --> 01:03:37.780
voice be counted. Let every vote be counted. Don't be intimidated.
1110
01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:39.539
I think this is more of a rhetorical thing. I
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01:03:39.559 --> 01:03:41.519
think it's good we're talking about it, but no one
1112
01:03:41.539 --> 01:03:44.039
should take from this rhetoric or rhetoric on Fox or
1113
01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:47.059
anything else like that, that they should be deterred from voting,
1114
01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:49.199
because I don't think there will be any kind of
1115
01:03:49.409 --> 01:03:53.869
armed presence stopping anybody from voting. Just about anywhere, maybe
1116
01:03:53.889 --> 01:03:56.789
in Alabama, but Alabama is so red anyway. Why send
1117
01:03:56.849 --> 01:03:58.110
all those people to Alabama?
1118
01:03:58.590 --> 01:04:01.599
Yeah, I don't know. We go round and around on this.
1119
01:04:01.780 --> 01:04:04.239
The thing that strikes me, David Katz, is that you
1120
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:10.079
can create enough of a drama around polling places that
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01:04:10.139 --> 01:04:12.400
without knowing even, well, there's nobody there who's armed, so
1122
01:04:12.420 --> 01:04:15.139
don't worry about it. It's just all too much trouble.
1123
01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:16.690
I don't want to get, I don't want to get,
1124
01:04:16.730 --> 01:04:19.349
they swoop people up and they put them in vans
1125
01:04:19.369 --> 01:04:20.769
and you don't see them for two months and then
1126
01:04:20.789 --> 01:04:22.449
they release them because they don't really have any reason
1127
01:04:22.469 --> 01:04:24.300
to detain them in the first place. But meanwhile, their
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01:04:24.340 --> 01:04:26.199
life is ruined. I mean, sort of, you end up
1129
01:04:26.460 --> 01:04:28.139
in this place where you go and we've had it
1130
01:04:28.179 --> 01:04:29.929
in the comments. I've seen it. I'm not going to
1131
01:04:29.949 --> 01:04:31.309
go to the polling places. I don't want to have
1132
01:04:31.349 --> 01:04:34.030
anything to do with it. I'm just going to drop
1133
01:04:34.230 --> 01:04:36.170
my ballot off. I've also seen, and which will get
1134
01:04:36.190 --> 01:04:39.289
me to the next question, people say that about mail-in balloting.
1135
01:04:39.329 --> 01:04:40.489
They're saying, I don't want anything to do with the
1136
01:04:40.510 --> 01:04:43.090
mail-in balloting. And this is, again, that's the chaos and
1137
01:04:43.110 --> 01:04:47.269
the doubt that Trump and his cronies have sown around
1138
01:04:47.409 --> 01:04:51.619
mail-in balloting. And again, there's no inconsistencies. There are no
1139
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:55.360
problems with mail-in balloting, but they have made such a
1140
01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:57.900
big stink about it, even though Trump, of course, himself
1141
01:04:57.940 --> 01:05:01.280
has voted by mail the last four elections, that there
1142
01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:03.829
are questions now that even show up. My audience is
1143
01:05:03.869 --> 01:05:05.949
a smart crew, and they're going, eh, I'm not even
1144
01:05:05.969 --> 01:05:07.690
going to mess with it because who knows how the
1145
01:05:07.769 --> 01:05:09.530
post office is going to mess with my ballot.
1146
01:05:09.949 --> 01:05:12.739
Let's talk about the post office in one second, but
1147
01:05:12.820 --> 01:05:16.139
this thing about this would be people in line. waiting,
1148
01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:20.000
worried about waiting in line and then suddenly seeing a
1149
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:23.480
mass of armed people with ice jackets coming around. And
1150
01:05:24.099 --> 01:05:28.079
by definition, those people waiting in line are legally allowed
1151
01:05:28.139 --> 01:05:30.619
to vote. We got rid of this thing that we
1152
01:05:30.659 --> 01:05:33.599
had in California where in some local races at the
1153
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:36.039
election day, you could vote in a local race, even
1154
01:05:36.059 --> 01:05:38.199
though you weren't a citizen of the United States. That
1155
01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:40.599
was going to play right into the right wingers and
1156
01:05:40.619 --> 01:05:43.579
the Fox comment crowd on that So we don't have
1157
01:05:43.619 --> 01:05:45.920
that anymore. And I don't think very many places in
1158
01:05:45.940 --> 01:05:48.409
the country allow anybody who's not a citizen to vote
1159
01:05:48.489 --> 01:05:50.710
on November 3rd. So when you go on November 3rd
1160
01:05:50.750 --> 01:05:53.750
to vote, it's by definition because you're legal, you're allowed
1161
01:05:53.789 --> 01:05:57.349
to vote. Don't be intimidated. Take it from me, really
1162
01:05:57.389 --> 01:06:00.150
and truly, I don't think anything like that is going
1163
01:06:00.170 --> 01:06:02.050
to happen. And I think if it does, someone's going
1164
01:06:02.070 --> 01:06:04.710
to call 911 right away and the cops are going
1165
01:06:04.730 --> 01:06:06.489
to show up and say to these guys, if they
1166
01:06:06.550 --> 01:06:08.710
are there, What the hell are you doing? They'll make
1167
01:06:08.750 --> 01:06:10.389
a record of it. They'll go back to this judge
1168
01:06:10.429 --> 01:06:13.380
in Washington, D.C. and say, Mr. Agent X and Mr.
1169
01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:17.320
Agent Y and their supervisor are violating your order, federal judge.
1170
01:06:17.519 --> 01:06:19.340
I just don't think it's going to be that much
1171
01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:22.019
of a problem on the ground. I think it's more intimidation.
1172
01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:23.050
And don't be intimidated.
1173
01:06:23.449 --> 01:06:25.989
Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm just getting at the
1174
01:06:26.030 --> 01:06:27.989
fact that they're trying to build a drama around it
1175
01:06:28.090 --> 01:06:31.929
and make that an impediment to turnout. So now to
1176
01:06:31.949 --> 01:06:35.010
the mail-in balloting, because this is just happening. A U.S.
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01:06:35.050 --> 01:06:39.889
appeals court rejecting Trump's bid to impose sweeping restrictions on
1178
01:06:39.949 --> 01:06:45.030
mail-in voting, and the midterm elections won't be informed by
1179
01:06:45.070 --> 01:06:50.139
that restriction. This is a Boston-based First U.S. Circuit Court
1180
01:06:50.420 --> 01:06:54.730
of Appeals. And they declined to put on hold this injunction.
1181
01:06:54.750 --> 01:06:57.989
There's already an injunction by a lower court judge last
1182
01:06:58.070 --> 01:07:01.400
week preventing the U.S. Postal Service from tightening rules around
1183
01:07:01.780 --> 01:07:05.599
postal voting. So this is a win for those who
1184
01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:10.079
want mail-in balloting to remain untouched by this president and
1185
01:07:10.099 --> 01:07:10.920
this administration.
1186
01:07:11.940 --> 01:07:15.840
If somehow Trump remains in power along with his Republicans
1187
01:07:15.969 --> 01:07:19.130
in both houses, we're going to have a disaster of
1188
01:07:19.190 --> 01:07:22.739
this type two years from now. But I think right
1189
01:07:22.800 --> 01:07:25.489
now the time has really run out. It's just too
1190
01:07:25.610 --> 01:07:28.349
short a time. These ballots have to go out. Some
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01:07:28.489 --> 01:07:31.110
ballots have already gone out from some states, like to
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01:07:31.610 --> 01:07:35.960
military voters, overseas voters. And I think the U.S. Supreme
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01:07:36.019 --> 01:07:43.909
Court's rocket docket... The shadow docket ruling today, I think,
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shows that they have a sense that it's just too
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close to the election. You know, the Department of Justice
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has this rule, I don't know if Trump is respecting it,
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that they don't do political cases or cases with political
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implications less than 60 days before the election. Talk to
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Comey and Hillary Clinton about not taking actions 60 days
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before the election. But I think the Supreme Court understands
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the logic of that, too. And it's even more logical
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here because this would be a screw up for the ages.
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This would be the worst voting disaster in America if
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the post office tried to comply with these rules. First
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of all, they're under an injunction not to formulate these
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rules as things stand right now. Then there's a whistleblower
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who says that the post office and Trump's minions and
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cronies over there are going behind the back of the
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federal judge. And they're preparing this portal anyway. But whatever
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shape the portal is in, it's in terrible shape. And
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the idea that they can actually send out ballots and
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hold back certain ballots and not send out others. This
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is the post office. This is seven weeks before the election.
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And I just want to say this for the U.S.
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Supreme Court. that I didn't think they were in Trump's
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pocket on the ruling a few weeks ago because they
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could have not delayed it five weeks. But by the
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US Supreme Court waiting five weeks to rule on Trump's
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emergency petition, they ran out. It's just from the point
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of view of what happened practically. The clock was run
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out for five weeks that the U.S. Supreme Court could
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have not run out. They could have decided it four
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or five weeks earlier. That has also contributed. If they
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were not going to monkey around with the election this
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close to the election in Missouri, they're not going to
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monkey around with making the post office change over the
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whole way. And that's Trump's only hope now. His only
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hope now is to race to the Supreme Court from
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this appellate court ruling, have the U.S. Supreme Court rule
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by five to four or more that he can monkey
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around with this entire thing and change all the procedures
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at the post office and the post office isn't ready
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and the states will freak out. There'll be injunctions all over.
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The Supreme Court will be doing nothing else But hearing
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these cases between now and November 3rd, they're not going
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to do it, Mark. They're not going to do it.
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This one's going to be okay. Let's win the House
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and the Senate for the Democrats and ward off these plans.
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These are the plans in the work. And, you know,
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the idea is to federalize elections by the fact that
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the feds have controlled the post office and to have
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there be an approved list and to punish the states
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that won't go along with them and invade these voting
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records and create all this havoc. But that's for next.
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That's for two years if the Republicans keep power.
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Indeed. That was very well said. I wanted to just
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visit one thing quickly, and that is the likely, I
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say likely, I mean, this is something that's being talked
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about by Trump. Just yesterday, he said that he would
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consider pardoning Michael Cohen, the former fixer, who he once
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branded a rat. He called him a rat. And, uh,
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you know, cause he was singing like a canary. He
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wrote a book. I read his first book. I didn't
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read the second one, but, uh, Asked my reporter whether
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he would grant Cohen's appeal for presidential clemency, Trump said, quote,
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if everything is checking out, it's something I would consider. So, thought?
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What would be the old expression? To call him a
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rat is an insult to rats everywhere. Michael Cohen, from
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fixer to foe. Yes, some people say it's Shakespearean. One
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of the things with Michael Cohen was that he was
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a guy who, I guess, wanted to land on his
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feet with money after this was all over. And I
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guess he thought maybe he could make money because, remember,
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Trump was not in power then. when they had the
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trial with Stormy Daniels up in New York that he
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testified in, and they're screaming at each other. And Trump
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01:11:20.220 --> 01:11:22.119
is saying, how come they can insult me and I
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can't insult them? And the judge is saying, no, you
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can't insult them. You're a party to the lawsuit. All
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that stuff up in New York City. And, you know,
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that was the weakest case. As people will remember, that
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was the weakest of the four cases. Unfortunately, it went first.
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The Mar-a-Lago case, which was probably the best and easiest
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01:11:38.060 --> 01:11:40.979
case in federal court, got delayed by the judge down there.
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You know, sort of the concierge judge, the judge that
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Trump likes so much, the one that we called loose cannon.
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And of course, the January 6th one in Washington, D.C.
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got delayed and ultimately stymied by the Supreme Court. So
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this case went first. Michael Cohen was the star of
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that case. He did have incriminating evidence. They had given
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him money and made it look like it was a
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legal fee, and it wasn't. It was paying him back
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for the bribe that he had given to Stormy Daniels
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to keep her mouth shut right before the election. And
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it was, you know, they falsified the records. It was
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a righteous case in that sense that it was legally sufficient,
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but people had trouble understanding it. It seemed kind of technical.
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And so Michael Cohen went against Trump for a while.
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But guess what? Trump got reelected. So a lot of people,
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you know, got the Trump religion again when Trump got reelected.
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And Michael Cohen figured out he couldn't make really big
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money from his podcast or anything else. I still remember
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when he came out of prison and said he wanted
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to be a legal commentator. I told Pat Thurston, Kim,
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you may remember this. Do not replace me with Michael
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Cohen for legal commentary. Well, Pat and Kim didn't. You
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01:12:51.369 --> 01:12:53.869
didn't ask Michael Code to be on your show regularly.
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You asked me, Mark. Bless you. And he's figured he
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just can't make a living doing that. He's a disbarred attorney.
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That's not going to change. But his only play, right,
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his only play. And of course, he's going to have
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to now issue all these statements. You know, he will.
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He was bamboozled by the prosecutors. They committed misconduct. They
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twisted his arm. One of Michael Cohen's problems in those days, remember,
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01:13:14.890 --> 01:13:17.510
he took the federal fall for what a lot of
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01:13:17.529 --> 01:13:20.949
people said was what Trump did at Trump's direction. People said,
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01:13:20.979 --> 01:13:22.640
why did he take the fall? Why didn't he stick
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01:13:22.680 --> 01:13:25.739
with Trump more? And the reason was, Mark, that he
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apparently had state criminal problems. He'd done something with taxi, medallions,
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all kinds of tax fraud. and regular old fraud that
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was prosecutable in state court. So they said to him, look, okay,
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do you want to go to Sing Sing or do
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you want to go to the nice federal prison? And
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Michael said, I think I'll go to the nice federal prison.
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He signed up and pleaded guilty to the federal charges.
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I think they dropped or didn't pursue the state crimes
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against Michael Cohen, which allegedly were very strong against him.
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So now, yes, he is kissing the Trump butt.
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Well, he's got a show, I guess, on WABC in
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New York, and he had Trump on, and we played
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clips from it.
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Oh, it's priceless. Do you have it again?
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He's kind of, hey, boss, do you remember the time
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we were, it was like listening to two mobsters talk. Hey, boss,
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01:14:14.069 --> 01:14:16.430
just call him, hey, boss. Remember the time we had
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01:14:16.449 --> 01:14:18.829
that construction thing and you sent me over to talk
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01:14:18.869 --> 01:14:21.140
to those guys? I mean, it was just, it was
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01:14:21.279 --> 01:14:26.079
really like listening to an FBI wiretap, you know?
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He knew he was being taped. Trump knew he was
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being taped. So he was very guarded. This is not
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the time he didn't know he was being taped when
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he talked to the Georgia secretary of state and said,
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just find me 11,000 votes, meaning just concoct 11,000 votes.
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He knew the thing. It was on the radio or whatever.
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He knew that that was being taped. It was being recorded.
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It was being listened to. So apparently all Trump said
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was things that were self-serving to help Trump.
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Right.
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How they bamboozled you. They pushed you around. I know
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that you always thought I hadn't done it. You know,
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01:14:54.659 --> 01:14:57.369
stuff like that. And Michael keeps trying to, you know,
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01:14:57.609 --> 01:14:59.909
he's trying to get something juicy. And Trump's not giving
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01:14:59.949 --> 01:15:01.710
him anything juicy. Yeah.
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Yeah, really something. I'm out of time with you. Love
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01:15:05.689 --> 01:15:08.970
our time together on Thursdays. David Katz, of course, you
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01:15:09.010 --> 01:15:13.600
can find him across the universe doing News Nation. even
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01:15:13.659 --> 01:15:15.500
Fox News Channel. He's a lot of the time a
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01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:18.100
legal analyst on Fox News Channel. If you see him
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01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:22.039
for a law case, he's a trial analyst. So he's
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01:15:22.079 --> 01:15:24.760
not there for political reasons. He's there to talk about
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the murder case of the hour.
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01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:32.750
Mark is sparing his audience all of my thoughts on
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01:15:32.770 --> 01:15:37.250
the Lindsay Clancy case, the woman who killed her three kids.
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01:15:37.310 --> 01:15:40.729
But that is a really interesting one on KGO, the
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station that shall not be named.
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Oops.
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We used to say, if you're talking about it, we're
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talking about it. And it's amazing how many people, maybe
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01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:50.770
not the audience of this show so much, but like
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the lady who sells me a donut in the morning.
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She saw me on TV and wanted to tell me
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all about La Llorona, the weeping woman of Mexican legend.
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And people are just fascinated. And of course, they want
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to know who was this holdout juror? Who was the
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lone juror? So maybe by next week.
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Maybe there's more. I have, I have zero interest in it,
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but I would be happy to, but I'm glad, I'm
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glad of America is so into it. But I would,
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I would be happy if people want it. I definitely would,
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you know, it seems somewhat interesting, but not worth like
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dedicating any time to.
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We've gone right over to Fox.
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A couple of weeks ago on Fox.
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I adore you. And I'll talk about whatever you want
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01:16:30.609 --> 01:16:33.279
to talk about any old time. Thank you, David Katz, everybody.
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Thanks for being here, my friend. Right on. Right on.
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The Mark Thompson Show. Yeah, I know.
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I mean, I know that Clancy case is really big.
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I'm sorry. I just, you know, it's weird. I live
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with my darling wife, his way into all of this
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true crime and all of this other stuff and these
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trials and everything. It just doesn't move my meter at all.
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I think that we've got such big issues. And I
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don't know. I just find a lot of what's going
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on just far more interesting. But that's just my taste.
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I mean, I know a lot of you would like it.
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And we can maybe talk to David about that in
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a bigger way next time. Please smash the like button
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for David Katz and for his brilliance and his fair-minded
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legal analysis. And speaking of brilliance, so excited. I give
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this guy some time away because I don't want to
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constantly be knocking on his door. But then I knock
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on the door and hope he can make it. I mean,
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his background doing the heavy lift, uncovering all the ways
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in which elections can be manipulated, voters can vote. be
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denied their legal right to have their voice heard, voter
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suppression in all the different ways. He's chronicled it. Greg
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Palast actually has released a six-part series of short video
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reels on the latest in voter suppression tricks. That's called
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Jim Crow Reloaded. And he has just launched his site,
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I think relaunched it, the saveyourvote.org site. I'll have links
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to both those things under... This video. I love the movie.
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I've seen it, I think, three times. The Lino DiCaprio
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produced a film.
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Vigilantes, Inc.
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Vigilantes, Inc. Yeah, I loved it. Thank you, Albert. America's
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new voter suppression hit men with that lengthy but well-deserved introduction.
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How about it for the great Greg Pallast, everyone? Look
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at you, man. Nice to see you.
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Great.
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Thank you. This is the great Greg Pallast. He'll be
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here in a minute.
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You are, dude, you are the real thing. I don't
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know how you do it. You're tireless. You've got the
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statistics background, so you're throwing all these numbers together, and
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then you have to communicate them in some sort of
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palatable way, and you do. You do.
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I enjoy that.
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I enjoy that.
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Listen, listen, the important thing is for people. Look, I
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do a lot of work that involves a lot of numbers.
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And as you know, Americans are kind of math phobic,
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number phobic. So my thing is, because I love math,
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01:19:03.380 --> 01:19:06.260
is that I take the mathematical investigations I do. I
1425
01:19:06.300 --> 01:19:09.619
got what is the equivalent Pulitzer Prize in data journalism.
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01:19:10.369 --> 01:19:12.130
And I try to make it so people understand it.
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01:19:12.140 --> 01:19:16.100
So what we're talking about now is your election, your democracy.
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01:19:16.239 --> 01:19:16.680
Hello?
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01:19:16.699 --> 01:19:19.699
Do you want to wave democracy goodbye? Because this may
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01:19:19.739 --> 01:19:21.539
be your last chance to get a kiss goodbye.
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01:19:22.079 --> 01:19:25.229
I mean, it really is, to call it under threat,
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01:19:25.289 --> 01:19:27.350
I think is to understate it in the extreme. I mean,
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01:19:27.369 --> 01:19:30.010
this is a real scary time. And I thought we
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01:19:30.050 --> 01:19:35.560
were at a scary time four years ago. I wonder
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01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:37.619
if you can bring me up to speed. I mean,
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01:19:37.720 --> 01:19:40.470
I often talk about your work because you chronicle it
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01:19:40.510 --> 01:19:42.810
so well in the ways in which, for example, the
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01:19:42.829 --> 01:19:45.409
state of Georgia has taken voter suppression to high art.
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01:19:45.710 --> 01:19:47.430
We've seen it in southern states.
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01:19:47.449 --> 01:19:49.109
I'm laughing, but, you know, what else are you going
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01:19:49.140 --> 01:19:49.239
to do?
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01:19:49.260 --> 01:19:50.729
You're going to cry? Yeah, no, and you chronicle it,
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01:19:50.760 --> 01:19:54.659
and it is laughable. It really is almost cartoonish how
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01:19:54.699 --> 01:19:59.920
they do it traditionally. And now we've seen the current
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01:19:59.979 --> 01:20:03.250
administration try to mess with the mail-in balloting. We've also
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01:20:03.310 --> 01:20:07.130
seen the threat of ICE agents, armed ICE agents, at
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01:20:07.189 --> 01:20:11.390
the polling places. You begin to see these overt ways
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01:20:11.600 --> 01:20:14.729
in which the vote might be suppressed beyond some of
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01:20:14.750 --> 01:20:16.350
these ways that you've chronicled in the past.
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01:20:17.329 --> 01:20:17.590
Yes.
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01:20:17.810 --> 01:20:21.649
OK, so we got a new wave of Jim Crowism
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01:20:21.949 --> 01:20:26.420
in America. You know, the nasty secret of American elections
1453
01:20:26.479 --> 01:20:29.720
is that we don't let everyone vote, every citizen vote,
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01:20:29.880 --> 01:20:32.539
and we don't count every ballot. Now, I'm not talking
1455
01:20:32.579 --> 01:20:37.100
about Elon Musk messing with the ballots from outer space.
1456
01:20:37.899 --> 01:20:42.130
Forget all that stuff. That does not happen. What happens
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01:20:42.210 --> 01:20:47.010
is something old-fashioned and horrible just improved in a horrible
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01:20:47.050 --> 01:20:52.319
way by AI. When we say suppressing the vote, what
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01:20:52.359 --> 01:20:55.939
we mean is is telling people, mainly people of color,
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01:20:55.960 --> 01:20:59.439
we're talking Black voters, Hispanic voters, Asian American voters. And
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01:20:59.460 --> 01:21:02.199
by the way, one of the big targets is American
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01:21:02.260 --> 01:21:09.149
Native voters who are basically wiped off the voter rolls
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01:21:09.270 --> 01:21:12.930
by the million and votes are cast and not counted
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01:21:12.970 --> 01:21:15.609
because they're disqualified. Now, that's under the laws that exist.
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01:21:15.649 --> 01:21:19.949
I'm not saying that this is illegal, though, on the
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01:21:19.989 --> 01:21:24.310
other hand, I'm working right now If you go to saveyourvote.org
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01:21:24.369 --> 01:21:28.729
and you get some of our videos and information. I'm
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01:21:28.770 --> 01:21:33.180
working with the NAACP of Atlanta. My old friend Jesse Jackson,
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01:21:34.460 --> 01:21:38.260
who just passed away, working with his organization Rainbow Push
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01:21:39.420 --> 01:21:45.180
and other voting rights groups. The idea here is that
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if you're an American, I just want you to have
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01:21:47.689 --> 01:21:50.989
the right to vote. That's not a big deal. Why
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01:21:51.029 --> 01:21:55.029
is that in question? So, for example, when Trump talks about,
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01:21:55.710 --> 01:21:58.560
he's going to say, you can't get a ballot unless
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01:21:58.569 --> 01:22:03.899
you're on a citizenship list. Well, guess what, Mark? We're
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01:22:03.939 --> 01:22:09.039
not Red China. We're not Saudi Arabia or Russia. We
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01:22:09.140 --> 01:22:12.989
do not have lists of citizens, of people that are
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01:22:13.170 --> 01:22:18.489
okay to vote. It doesn't exist. So he's saying only
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01:22:18.569 --> 01:22:22.329
citizens on our citizenship list can vote. Well, baby brother,
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01:22:23.130 --> 01:22:26.350
there ain't no citizenship list. So what the hell are
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01:22:26.369 --> 01:22:28.090
you talking about, nitwit?
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01:22:29.270 --> 01:22:31.149
He wants to build one, Greg. He wants to build one.
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01:22:31.180 --> 01:22:32.819
So he's going to build one. Here's how they're going
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01:22:32.840 --> 01:22:37.899
to build it. They're going to take the list of databases.
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01:22:37.340 --> 01:22:38.619
That we know have citizenship.
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01:22:38.659 --> 01:22:43.159
For example, passports. Now, by the way, Trump has issued
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01:22:43.180 --> 01:22:45.000
an executive order that you have to prove you're a
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01:22:45.020 --> 01:22:48.850
citizen to vote. Hey, if you're not a citizen, you know,
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01:22:49.430 --> 01:22:51.970
but here's the thing, Mark, it doesn't happen. I mean,
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01:22:52.010 --> 01:22:54.369
I've I've been to you know, I've been voting for
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01:22:54.770 --> 01:22:57.289
my whole life and I've never seen a spaceship come
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01:22:57.310 --> 01:23:00.710
down with alien voters with ballots in their hands. And
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01:23:00.750 --> 01:23:03.390
by the way, people do not swim the Rio Grande
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01:23:03.430 --> 01:23:05.810
so they can vote in your school board election, even
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01:23:05.829 --> 01:23:07.979
your presidential election. And by the way, if you're not
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01:23:08.020 --> 01:23:10.760
here legally in America, the last thing you're going to
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01:23:10.779 --> 01:23:13.939
do is register to vote where you get your name done. So,
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01:23:14.159 --> 01:23:16.819
you know, I was just looking at the numbers today. Yeah,
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01:23:16.840 --> 01:23:20.640
there have been a few idiots who've been convicted of
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01:23:20.760 --> 01:23:26.880
voting who aren't citizens. In Florida, using this same citizenship list,
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01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:33.210
which the state of Florida at the time, Rick Scott,
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01:23:33.369 --> 01:23:35.590
when he was governor, Republican governor, got a list from
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01:23:35.689 --> 01:23:38.050
Obama that people had been deported. So they removed all
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01:23:38.069 --> 01:23:41.109
the people who had been deported from the voter rolls. Well,
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01:23:41.130 --> 01:23:42.890
they weren't registered in the first place, but what they
1506
01:23:42.909 --> 01:23:50.350
got was a list of people named Jose Garcia. You know, Eduardo.
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01:23:51.350 --> 01:23:51.930
Martinez.
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01:23:51.970 --> 01:23:54.170
I'm not making up these names, by the way. And
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01:23:54.210 --> 01:23:56.729
so they removed a lot. Are you ready for this?
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01:23:57.529 --> 01:24:04.739
In the elections in Florida, they have removed 176,000 voters
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01:24:05.479 --> 01:24:08.600
because they are suspected non-citizens. Now, I don't know what
1512
01:24:08.619 --> 01:24:13.680
a suspected non-citizen is. There's citizens and there's non-citizens. To
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01:24:13.720 --> 01:24:18.100
be a suspected non-citizen is basically if your name's Garcia.
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01:24:19.579 --> 01:24:23.880
By the way, here's a fact for you. 832,000 Americans
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01:24:24.359 --> 01:24:28.899
have a last name Garcia. So if they deport Jose
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01:24:28.920 --> 01:24:32.859
Garcia and they take off and then they say, oh
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01:24:33.039 --> 01:24:35.319
my God, there's a Jose Garcia on our voter rolls.
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01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:37.800
They take them off. Are you taking off an American
1519
01:24:37.840 --> 01:24:39.579
citizen or are you taking off someone who has a
1520
01:24:39.619 --> 01:24:44.300
Hispanic name? So of the 176,000 people removed, They found
1521
01:24:44.359 --> 01:24:49.100
exactly one alien voter, by the way, who happened to
1522
01:24:49.140 --> 01:24:52.000
be an Austrian who voted Republican.
1523
01:24:52.279 --> 01:24:55.020
Right. By the way, it was not, I just.
1524
01:24:54.920 --> 01:24:58.239
Want to make it clear, it was neither Hitler nor
1525
01:24:58.340 --> 01:25:03.409
Arnold Schwarzenegger, but there was one single voter. But I'm laughing,
1526
01:25:04.189 --> 01:25:05.850
and a lot of people got their names back on
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01:25:05.869 --> 01:25:07.630
because they had to go to court to prove that
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01:25:07.649 --> 01:25:08.630
they're American citizens.
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01:25:08.689 --> 01:25:10.210
Well, this is where I wanted to get to, Greg.
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01:25:10.229 --> 01:25:12.949
I didn't mean to interrupt, but in your movie, I
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01:25:12.989 --> 01:25:17.489
remember quite clearly that people, some very high-profile people, as
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01:25:17.529 --> 01:25:21.069
I recall, a serviceman who was serving overseas and a
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01:25:21.109 --> 01:25:24.399
number of other people who were distinguished Americans, they weren't
1534
01:25:24.439 --> 01:25:28.800
even aware that their name had been taken off the
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01:25:28.840 --> 01:25:31.399
registered voter list. That is to say that they had
1536
01:25:31.500 --> 01:25:36.090
somehow they were being compelled in any way to sort
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01:25:36.109 --> 01:25:39.369
of clear their name or to re-register or whatever.
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01:25:39.390 --> 01:25:41.329
Oh my God, yeah. You know, you want to watch,
1539
01:25:41.489 --> 01:25:43.930
I'll tell you what, I have a film out, as
1540
01:25:43.970 --> 01:25:47.010
you said, that the DiCaprio family has been wonderful as
1541
01:25:47.050 --> 01:25:52.439
my producers and in my work. And so go to gregpalace.com
1542
01:25:52.520 --> 01:25:56.369
or just look on YouTube. You'll see a film, Vigilantes Inc.,
1543
01:25:56.500 --> 01:26:01.720
like Vigilantes Incorporated, Vigilantes Inc., America's New Vote Suppression Hitman. Just,
1544
01:26:02.229 --> 01:26:05.949
Put in Vigilante's Palace and you'll get on YouTube. And
1545
01:26:05.970 --> 01:26:09.550
I want to thank the DiCaprios and Jamie Foxx for
1546
01:26:09.989 --> 01:26:13.789
financially making this possible to release this for free. And
1547
01:26:13.810 --> 01:26:16.729
what you'll find, you'll see a woman at the beginning
1548
01:26:16.750 --> 01:26:19.989
of the film who chases me out of her house
1549
01:26:20.010 --> 01:26:26.289
at gunpoint. And because she is challenged, she's a Republican official.
1550
01:26:26.310 --> 01:26:29.029
I'm not picking on the Republican Party. She's a Republican official.
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01:26:30.020 --> 01:26:34.880
who challenged, are you ready? 32,000 voters in her county,
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01:26:34.899 --> 01:26:36.800
Cobb County, Georgia.
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01:26:36.800 --> 01:26:37.140
32,000 voters.
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01:26:37.180 --> 01:26:40.220
She's not a government official, but under these old Jim
1555
01:26:40.260 --> 01:26:44.500
Crow laws, an individual can challenge another. They use now computers.
1556
01:26:44.539 --> 01:26:47.340
She's handed in a spreadsheet. She said, stop these people. Now,
1557
01:26:47.800 --> 01:26:51.859
among the people who were stopped from voting is Gamaliel Turner.
1558
01:26:51.979 --> 01:26:55.899
And I should say major Gamaliel Turner, who is the
1559
01:26:56.020 --> 01:27:01.340
Pentagon's expert on warfare of the future. This man at
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01:27:01.359 --> 01:27:07.359
the time, 70 years old, was assigned to the Fort
1561
01:27:07.380 --> 01:27:12.979
Hueneme military base here in California. And he has a
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01:27:13.060 --> 01:27:17.149
home near Fort Bragg, excuse me, Fort Benning in Georgia.
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01:27:17.869 --> 01:27:20.409
And they refused to send, they didn't send him his ballot.
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01:27:20.430 --> 01:27:23.189
So he calls up and he says, well, where's my ballot?
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01:27:23.229 --> 01:27:26.050
And he said, Mr. Turner, they didn't call him major.
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01:27:26.550 --> 01:27:26.850
Mr.
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01:27:26.909 --> 01:27:29.890
Turner, you're, you've been challenged. He said, what does that mean?
1568
01:27:29.909 --> 01:27:31.409
He said, well, we can't send you a ballot until
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01:27:31.449 --> 01:27:33.170
you come into our office and just, you know, just
1570
01:27:33.229 --> 01:27:37.569
prove you're an American that you live in Georgia. He says,
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01:27:38.270 --> 01:27:39.869
it's two days before the election. You want me to
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01:27:39.909 --> 01:27:45.350
fly 2,700 miles to prove I'm an American again? And
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01:27:45.390 --> 01:27:50.189
what he meant by again, it's an African-American officer. This
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01:27:50.250 --> 01:27:56.189
is not by accident. They challenged 4,000 black soldiers out
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01:27:56.229 --> 01:28:00.710
of Fort Benning to stop them from voting. This is how,
1576
01:28:00.909 --> 01:28:08.710
by the way, Trump won Georgia in 2024 and 2016
1577
01:28:08.710 --> 01:28:13.850
by these challenges. And his father was the co-founder of
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01:28:13.890 --> 01:28:18.859
the Southern Christian Leadership Conference with Martin Luther King. They
1579
01:28:18.899 --> 01:28:21.119
picked on the wrong guy. So he actually did fly 5,000
1580
01:28:21.119 --> 01:28:21.760
miles round trip.
1581
01:28:21.880 --> 01:28:23.479
It's a wild story.
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01:28:23.520 --> 01:28:26.560
He flew 5,000 miles round trip to get his vote counted.
1583
01:28:26.600 --> 01:28:31.039
But unfortunately, the thousands of other soldiers who didn't fly
1584
01:28:31.619 --> 01:28:35.020
back for their vote, lost their vote. And this is
1585
01:28:35.060 --> 01:28:36.930
what this story is about. So what we want to
1586
01:28:36.949 --> 01:28:39.250
do is, this is not about attack on Black people.
1587
01:28:39.270 --> 01:28:39.829
It's about attack.
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01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:41.319
On America.
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01:28:43.100 --> 01:28:48.319
When you take away Major Turner's vote, you've taken away
1590
01:28:48.380 --> 01:28:51.520
my vote too. You've canceled out my vote. You know,
1591
01:28:51.539 --> 01:28:53.880
if we want to be a democracy, that means we
1592
01:28:54.140 --> 01:28:57.819
all get to vote if we're Americans. And these games
1593
01:28:57.880 --> 01:29:01.229
of saying, okay, So Major Turner was challenged by these
1594
01:29:01.300 --> 01:29:03.979
vigilantes who said, oh, he didn't live in Georgia. Yeah,
1595
01:29:04.159 --> 01:29:06.939
he lives in Georgia. But believe it or not, soldiers,
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01:29:07.039 --> 01:29:12.770
American soldiers on assignment are allowed to file and submit
1597
01:29:12.909 --> 01:29:14.699
an absentee mail-in ballot.
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01:29:16.119 --> 01:29:20.340
That's one of the areas in which there is a discussion.
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01:29:20.500 --> 01:29:23.699
And they're doing everything to stop it. So they're saying, okay,
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01:29:23.720 --> 01:29:25.359
we're not going to send you your ballot. We're going
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01:29:25.380 --> 01:29:28.130
to use the post office as a way to determine
1602
01:29:28.390 --> 01:29:30.130
who gets to vote and who doesn't. I'll tell you
1603
01:29:30.149 --> 01:29:32.250
who gets to vote. Americans get to vote.
1604
01:29:32.270 --> 01:29:33.289
Is that good enough for you?
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01:29:33.489 --> 01:29:35.829
It's good enough for me. I don't need the post office.
1606
01:29:36.229 --> 01:29:39.210
And they have a 95-page manual of who gets to
1607
01:29:39.250 --> 01:29:42.939
vote and who doesn't. Now, go outside, ask your mailman
1608
01:29:43.409 --> 01:29:46.100
when they come by, say, have you read the 95-page
1609
01:29:46.199 --> 01:29:50.220
manual about whose ballot you can deliver and whose ballot
1610
01:29:50.239 --> 01:29:52.439
you don't? And by the way, mail-in balloting is not
1611
01:29:52.600 --> 01:29:56.739
small stuff. It's about one-third of the American public votes
1612
01:29:56.779 --> 01:30:04.310
by mail, especially African-Americans. About 70% of African-Americans vote by
1613
01:30:04.479 --> 01:30:07.430
either mail mail or they use a drop box or
1614
01:30:07.449 --> 01:30:10.189
they drop off their ballot at early voting stations and
1615
01:30:10.250 --> 01:30:14.109
early voting. 70% of black people in swing states, North Carolina, Georgia,
1616
01:30:14.130 --> 01:30:18.380
and others vote using a mail in ballot. So they
1617
01:30:18.460 --> 01:30:20.899
want to stop them from just getting their ballot. Can
1618
01:30:20.939 --> 01:30:21.460
you imagine?
1619
01:30:21.819 --> 01:30:24.380
Of course, but that makes the statistics then bear it out.
1620
01:30:24.739 --> 01:30:25.960
I only have another minute or two, but I wanted
1621
01:30:25.979 --> 01:30:29.539
to ask you about this series of, uh, of reels
1622
01:30:29.560 --> 01:30:30.260
that you have out.
1623
01:30:30.500 --> 01:30:30.760
Yes.
1624
01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:31.039
Yeah.
1625
01:30:31.060 --> 01:30:31.979
Tell me about that.
1626
01:30:32.100 --> 01:30:34.199
It's called Jim Crow Reloaded.
1627
01:30:34.380 --> 01:30:35.960
And we go through, here's what I want to do
1628
01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:38.699
with you. And Jim, go to, yeah, you got the
1629
01:30:38.739 --> 01:30:40.859
good thing up on your site. There's Jim Crow Reloaded.
1630
01:30:41.439 --> 01:30:44.140
That's Ed Ward, a brilliant young man who explains to
1631
01:30:44.180 --> 01:30:48.100
you reel by reel, all the tricks that they can
1632
01:30:48.239 --> 01:30:50.079
use to take away your vote and what you can
1633
01:30:50.119 --> 01:30:51.800
do to save your vote. I don't want to just
1634
01:30:51.939 --> 01:30:56.479
bitch and complain. I want you to exercise your democratic rights.
1635
01:30:56.520 --> 01:30:58.510
And by the way, No one's going to do it
1636
01:30:58.550 --> 01:31:02.289
for you, but you. If you have to check your registration,
1637
01:31:02.329 --> 01:31:04.970
make sure you're still registered. You have to re-register if
1638
01:31:05.010 --> 01:31:07.430
they've purged you from the voter rolls. You've got to
1639
01:31:07.569 --> 01:31:11.029
get your mail-in ballot in time. And I want you
1640
01:31:11.050 --> 01:31:14.310
to go into an early voting station with that ballot.
1641
01:31:15.149 --> 01:31:16.949
Try not to mail in it if you can. But
1642
01:31:16.989 --> 01:31:19.569
we try to show you at Jim Crow Reloaded what
1643
01:31:19.590 --> 01:31:22.880
they do and what you can do about it, including,
1644
01:31:23.489 --> 01:31:25.880
and if you can't remember that Jim Crow Reloaded, just remember,
1645
01:31:26.159 --> 01:31:28.359
save your vote. Not save my vote. You got to
1646
01:31:28.380 --> 01:31:33.560
save your own vote. Saveyourvote.org. Saveyourvote.org. You can see the films.
1647
01:31:33.880 --> 01:31:36.520
You can see my last film, Vigilantes, Inc., for free.
1648
01:31:37.060 --> 01:31:42.619
You can check your registration. You can learn how to
1649
01:31:42.779 --> 01:31:44.199
save your vote.
1650
01:31:44.810 --> 01:31:45.109
Vote.
1651
01:31:45.289 --> 01:31:48.869
And if everyone gets to vote, I'm happy with the outcome.
1652
01:31:49.270 --> 01:31:51.890
I don't want elections determined by Jim Crow. I want
1653
01:31:51.909 --> 01:31:53.220
it to be determined by the voters.
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01:31:53.760 --> 01:31:57.680
We'll have a link to everything under this video, uh, palace,
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01:31:57.960 --> 01:32:01.699
love the work you do mad respect. And, uh, you've
1656
01:32:01.739 --> 01:32:05.840
never been more needed than now. So, uh, yeah, I,
1657
01:32:05.859 --> 01:32:06.199
you know what?
1658
01:32:06.220 --> 01:32:08.539
I have faith in you. As long as we have
1659
01:32:08.560 --> 01:32:11.180
Mark Thompson, we have democracy.
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01:32:12.100 --> 01:32:14.390
Uh, I so appreciate our time together. We'll do it
1661
01:32:14.430 --> 01:32:17.810
again before the midterms really get cracking. Okay. Greg Palast,
1662
01:32:17.829 --> 01:32:20.670
see you. Thanks. Greg Palast, everybody.
1663
01:32:22.140 --> 01:32:23.479
The Mark Thompson Show.
1664
01:32:24.079 --> 01:32:26.600
How great is he? You know, his energy. I mean,
1665
01:32:26.640 --> 01:32:29.260
and he's applied it to getting a lot of information out.
1666
01:32:29.779 --> 01:32:32.479
So we'll have click-throughs, as I say, under the video
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01:32:32.500 --> 01:32:35.069
so you can check out. His latest series of reels,
1668
01:32:35.130 --> 01:32:37.909
I haven't seen them yet. They look really intriguing. I
1669
01:32:37.949 --> 01:32:39.130
do want to... I know.
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01:32:39.470 --> 01:32:40.640
Your comments.
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01:32:40.720 --> 01:32:43.500
I did just add the link in the description, so
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01:32:43.520 --> 01:32:44.840
just scroll down.
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01:32:45.180 --> 01:32:48.340
Cool, cool. Albert, everybody. Albert, thank you. Yes, thank you.
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01:32:48.420 --> 01:32:51.819
That's an expectant father still working hard, which I appreciate.
1675
01:32:52.489 --> 01:32:55.270
Vilma Devlin is an OG of the show with a
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01:32:55.270 --> 01:33:00.939
$ 5 super chat. She says, Donald Trump still owes us $ 2, 000
1677
01:33:00.260 --> 01:33:03.460
for a tariff rebate. Remember, Trump doesn't pay his debts,
1678
01:33:03.560 --> 01:33:06.149
nor will he pay his voter bribe. Yes, exactly. Vilma
1679
01:33:06.159 --> 01:33:10.359
couldn't agree more. As detailed... I think it's the Hail
1680
01:33:10.399 --> 01:33:12.359
Mary pass. You know what I mean? And I'm going
1681
01:33:12.380 --> 01:33:14.380
to give you all $ 5, 000. You just have to win
1682
01:33:14.399 --> 01:33:17.020
this election. You know, I'll tell you what. You'll get
1683
01:33:17.060 --> 01:33:19.520
the checks at the gas pump where gas is only
1684
01:33:19.539 --> 01:33:22.439
going to be $ 2 a gallon after the midterm elections.
1685
01:33:22.479 --> 01:33:27.789
Just vote GOP. The super sticker comes from WZ583. It
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01:33:27.869 --> 01:33:31.630
rolls off my tongue. WZ583, a $ 20 super sticker. Big
1687
01:33:31.670 --> 01:33:31.989
shout out.
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01:33:33.210 --> 01:33:33.279
Wow.
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01:33:37.470 --> 01:33:37.829
What?
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01:33:37.930 --> 01:33:44.810
Yeah, I know. I'll always have WZ583 and this day
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01:33:45.409 --> 01:33:49.550
in my thoughts. Thank you, WZ. Appreciate that. Tom Graves
1692
01:33:49.590 --> 01:33:51.869
with a $ 5 super chat. Big shout out. Don't forget
1693
01:33:51.890 --> 01:33:56.390
that Ivanka Trump secured trademark protection on Trump brand voting
1694
01:33:56.430 --> 01:34:00.569
machines during Trump's first term in China. Yeah, interesting thing
1695
01:34:00.630 --> 01:34:03.909
happened with Ivanka. She, of course, the daughter of Donald,
1696
01:34:04.449 --> 01:34:09.449
she accompanied, as Tom Graves has noticed, noted she accompanied
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01:34:09.489 --> 01:34:13.760
her father on these economic summits in China. It was
1698
01:34:13.800 --> 01:34:16.779
a weird thing. While a trade deal was being crafted,
1699
01:34:16.800 --> 01:34:20.060
this is again in the first four years of Trump's presidency,
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01:34:20.920 --> 01:34:23.800
they were crafting a deal with China and Ivanka's along
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01:34:23.819 --> 01:34:26.020
for the ride. It was like, you bring your daughter
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01:34:26.039 --> 01:34:30.489
to this? She's someone who is actually seeking a trademark
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01:34:30.550 --> 01:34:35.510
and copyrights from China. And she got them. And so
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01:34:36.369 --> 01:34:38.810
It was viewed as a conflict of interest, of course,
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01:34:38.829 --> 01:34:41.810
for him to be even there having these conversations. But
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01:34:42.170 --> 01:34:46.239
now something like that looks like Mr. Rogers' neighborhood compared
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01:34:46.300 --> 01:34:50.079
to the conflict of interest we've seen with Witkoff, with Kushner,
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01:34:50.159 --> 01:34:52.939
with Lutnik, with all of them. They all have skin
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01:34:52.960 --> 01:34:55.840
in the game. Besson's friends with the money that was
1710
01:34:55.880 --> 01:34:59.560
doled out to Argentina. This is a crew that is
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01:34:59.800 --> 01:35:02.989
all about self-enrichment and, of course, the crypto gang that
1712
01:35:03.029 --> 01:35:06.729
has taken over along with the tech elite, the Peter
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01:35:06.810 --> 01:35:09.970
Thiel's of the world, and those who are involved in
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01:35:10.229 --> 01:35:15.329
moneying this presidency in ways that are unprecedented. I mean, again,
1715
01:35:15.609 --> 01:35:17.510
they make that Ivanka thing look like, you know, a
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01:35:17.529 --> 01:35:21.159
day at the beach. Sal, the shoemaker, Democratic sweep of
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01:35:21.220 --> 01:35:25.140
both House and Senate is up 28% on polymarket. Big
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01:35:25.180 --> 01:35:25.529
shout out.
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01:35:25.600 --> 01:35:25.859
Wow.
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01:35:26.720 --> 01:35:30.359
Republican Senate, Democratic House split is down to 18%. Wow.
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01:35:30.420 --> 01:35:37.210
So it's practically a dead heat. Thank you for that,
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01:35:37.270 --> 01:35:39.789
Sal the Shoemaker. Sal the Shoemaker doing some.
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01:35:40.529 --> 01:35:44.350
Joe Fish, Sal the Shoemaker, Joe Box, and Little Anthony.
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01:35:44.390 --> 01:35:50.590
Vilma Devlin with another super chat. Two super chats from
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01:35:51.289 --> 01:35:55.199
Vilma Devlin. Big shout out. Vilma says, while Trump was
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01:35:55.300 --> 01:35:58.560
offering his bribe, Telerico was out raising 20,000 pounds of
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01:35:58.659 --> 01:36:01.300
food for the needy. Quite a contrast. Yeah, I mean,
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01:36:01.420 --> 01:36:04.720
you know, this is a crew on the Trump side
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01:36:04.760 --> 01:36:08.310
that doesn't do anything for charity. So, I mean, Tallarico
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01:36:08.350 --> 01:36:10.850
is a real, I think, courage of his convictions. I
1731
01:36:10.869 --> 01:36:16.220
can play you something from Tallarico in a second. If
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01:36:16.260 --> 01:36:18.579
I've got time, that's why I'm pausing. I might be
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01:36:18.600 --> 01:36:21.619
able to do it. Randy, if Trump would have endorsed Cornyn,
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01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:25.979
Texas wouldn't be an issue for the Republicans. That's so true. Cornyn,
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01:36:26.020 --> 01:36:30.970
who voted with Trump 99% of the time. But now
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01:36:30.989 --> 01:36:34.470
you're exactly right. would not have been an issue at all.
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01:36:34.689 --> 01:36:38.329
So if time allows... And now, your comments. I'm reading
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01:36:38.369 --> 01:36:41.149
the comments. Jim Shields says, if time allows, at the end,
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01:36:41.710 --> 01:36:45.630
let's get a 48-second sports report from Prince Albert. Let's
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01:36:45.649 --> 01:36:48.439
get his take on the Niners' chances tonight. Yeah, Kamish,
1741
01:36:48.770 --> 01:36:51.420
the Niners play in Australia. Here it is, Richard Delamater
1742
01:36:51.699 --> 01:36:54.579
with a $ 2 Super Chat. Big shout-out. Kamish, what is
1743
01:36:54.600 --> 01:36:58.779
your assessment of the 49ers? Can you give us the lowdown?
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01:36:59.180 --> 01:37:02.779
This will be a– who do they play tonight, Kamish?
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01:37:03.199 --> 01:37:04.659
They play the Rams down under.
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01:37:04.939 --> 01:37:08.140
This is a classic then division rivalry, as you're saying.
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01:37:08.939 --> 01:37:10.819
Yeah, it's going to be– the colors will be popping.
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01:37:10.840 --> 01:37:14.899
We've got the blue team versus the red team in Melbourne,
1749
01:37:15.020 --> 01:37:19.600
which will be interesting because we'll see two different methods
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01:37:19.930 --> 01:37:22.729
of– the Rams just flying in a couple of days before,
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01:37:23.569 --> 01:37:25.470
and the Niners have been there for a week already,
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01:37:25.550 --> 01:37:28.050
so we'll see– which theory will go past.
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01:37:28.149 --> 01:37:29.229
I feel good about my Niners.
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01:37:29.710 --> 01:37:32.890
Yeah. One team, just on your point there, sort of
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01:37:32.909 --> 01:37:36.779
acclimatizing to everything, the hour, the day, everything, they're getting
1756
01:37:36.840 --> 01:37:38.779
used to it. The other team just going in, kind
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01:37:38.800 --> 01:37:42.159
of staying on West Coast time probably, and I don't
1758
01:37:42.199 --> 01:37:45.960
know how they do it. Also, you have to think
1759
01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:48.380
about the game after this. You know what I mean? Like, okay,
1760
01:37:48.579 --> 01:37:51.810
now you've acclimatized your team to Australia. That worked well
1761
01:37:51.850 --> 01:37:54.189
for the Rams game. Now you're coming back to the States,
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01:37:54.310 --> 01:37:55.750
and it's going to be a little bit of an adjustment.
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01:37:56.010 --> 01:37:58.310
I don't know. I'm sure they've done everything and talked
1764
01:37:58.329 --> 01:38:04.510
to doctors. These guys are operating at a wildly specific
1765
01:38:04.550 --> 01:38:07.079
level with the best consultants. But what do you think?
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01:38:07.460 --> 01:38:09.600
How do you see this game going down and beyond this?
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01:38:10.739 --> 01:38:12.640
It's going to be tough because the Niners had a
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01:38:12.840 --> 01:38:16.300
very tumultuous offseason, and the Rams had almost the opposite,
1769
01:38:16.340 --> 01:38:19.119
where they're just kind of collecting the infinity stones of
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01:38:19.649 --> 01:38:22.489
Miles Garrett, Aaron Donald is back, they're getting the boys
1771
01:38:22.550 --> 01:38:25.770
back together, so It'll be interesting to see the two
1772
01:38:25.850 --> 01:38:29.210
different matchups come in. I do like my Niners, obviously.
1773
01:38:29.270 --> 01:38:31.979
I think their offense is good. And no Aaron Donald
1774
01:38:32.020 --> 01:38:34.260
yet for the Rams. So I think that might be
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01:38:34.300 --> 01:38:35.720
a difference for us.
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01:38:35.859 --> 01:38:38.939
Oh, yeah. So what is the point spread? Do we know?
1777
01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:43.579
Not off the top. I can imagine the Rams being
1778
01:38:43.619 --> 01:38:44.079
the favorite.
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01:38:44.100 --> 01:38:46.340
It's not a big gambling crowd. It's really interesting to me.
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01:38:46.399 --> 01:38:49.239
Anybody in the chat know what the gambling number is?
1781
01:38:50.100 --> 01:38:51.380
Our favorite three and a half points.
1782
01:38:51.560 --> 01:38:52.819
Yeah, I would think it would be around that.
1783
01:38:52.850 --> 01:38:54.520
That seems reasonable.
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01:38:55.430 --> 01:38:58.289
Yeah, the Rams are nominally the home team, as noted here,
1785
01:38:59.489 --> 01:39:02.449
thanks to their owning Australia's NFL marketing rights. But San
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01:39:02.470 --> 01:39:06.510
Francisco arrived a week early, as the commission noted, and
1787
01:39:06.550 --> 01:39:09.329
they're trying to keep their body clock on Pacific time,
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01:39:09.369 --> 01:39:14.569
or the Rams, while the 49ers are making the adjustment.
1789
01:39:14.609 --> 01:39:18.449
Game air is at 535 tonight in California. Yeah, on Netflix.
1790
01:39:18.569 --> 01:39:19.770
On Netflix, wow.
1791
01:39:20.239 --> 01:39:22.489
The game yesterday was on NBC, the first game of
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01:39:22.510 --> 01:39:26.010
the season. Very boring game, but I was happy to
1793
01:39:26.029 --> 01:39:26.750
see football back.
1794
01:39:27.390 --> 01:39:34.260
Yeah. And Kimmel is the way I'll finish this show.
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01:39:34.539 --> 01:39:36.439
Sorry, Melbourne. Melbourne for our.
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01:39:36.520 --> 01:39:40.939
Melbourne? Aye, good aye. I like the Rams to kind
1797
01:39:41.460 --> 01:39:43.319
of be able to do the staff. It's really good.
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01:39:44.159 --> 01:39:47.729
I don't do it. We say Melbourne. You know what
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01:39:47.750 --> 01:39:47.989
I love.
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01:39:49.609 --> 01:39:52.890
This will mean nothing to anyone except for our Australian listeners,
1801
01:39:52.949 --> 01:39:57.850
of which there are, I think, two. I was there
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01:39:57.909 --> 01:40:00.680
the first, I think the first year that the Crown
1803
01:40:00.729 --> 01:40:03.399
Towers opened. I think it was at the Crown Tower
1804
01:40:03.460 --> 01:40:07.399
there in Melbourne. And they have a really cool thing.
1805
01:40:07.439 --> 01:40:10.079
It's right along the, it's a hotel with a casino
1806
01:40:10.140 --> 01:40:14.779
attached and everything. So there's a canal right outside and
1807
01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:18.340
they have these huge, they look like candlesticks. They're torches.
1808
01:40:18.850 --> 01:40:21.670
And they go off at regular intervals. And they're so
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01:40:21.810 --> 01:40:25.050
hot that when you're standing at the window in the hotel,
1810
01:40:25.149 --> 01:40:27.489
you feel the heat through the window. It's really kind
1811
01:40:27.529 --> 01:40:33.229
of cool. I don't think they still have it. But, oh,
1812
01:40:33.270 --> 01:40:37.149
here is Glenn. I was waiting for this. Glenn, Mark,
1813
01:40:37.840 --> 01:40:42.180
for F's sake, no Aussie accents. You are shit bat
1814
01:40:42.359 --> 01:40:46.210
at it. No offense, mate. Yeah, exactly. I don't really
1815
01:40:46.250 --> 01:40:47.550
do it. I tell you, I don't do it. And
1816
01:40:47.590 --> 01:40:49.470
yet I can't resist it. I can't resist a bad one.
1817
01:40:50.449 --> 01:40:52.270
You know, if you guys didn't talk with that cute
1818
01:40:52.350 --> 01:40:54.810
accent all the time, we wouldn't need to imitate it.
1819
01:40:55.729 --> 01:40:58.380
Knock it off. It's so cute. Everybody wants to speak
1820
01:40:58.409 --> 01:41:02.319
with it. All right. Albert, is there anything else I
1821
01:41:02.359 --> 01:41:05.239
wanted to? I love Jimmy. Oh, Jimmy Kimmel is being
1822
01:41:05.359 --> 01:41:08.399
railroaded out of his show and nighttime television just because
1823
01:41:08.439 --> 01:41:11.090
he criticizes Trump, says Vilma. Yeah, that's where I was.
1824
01:41:11.390 --> 01:41:15.170
What's the story on this? Kim, I'm bummed. I love
1825
01:41:15.210 --> 01:41:18.550
my Jimmy Kimmel. I don't understand what's happening here.
1826
01:41:19.090 --> 01:41:22.390
I was watching last night and he said, as Rosie
1827
01:41:22.430 --> 01:41:25.949
says here, that he has this Tallarico interview. And normally
1828
01:41:26.060 --> 01:41:29.319
he would have done it on the broadcast. But because
1829
01:41:29.399 --> 01:41:33.699
they have worries about their affiliates in Texas, they have
1830
01:41:33.739 --> 01:41:36.659
to pull it and put it on their YouTube channel.
1831
01:41:37.020 --> 01:41:39.840
and not broadcast it. He's got this interview with Tallarico
1832
01:41:39.899 --> 01:41:43.880
that is going straight to YouTube. So that's just different
1833
01:41:43.979 --> 01:41:47.770
the way, you know, the Trump administration just puts their
1834
01:41:47.869 --> 01:41:52.430
finger on everything and applies this pressure and people feel
1835
01:41:52.449 --> 01:41:54.189
like they have no other choice.
1836
01:41:54.649 --> 01:41:56.189
He said, and this is a quote, you know, for
1837
01:41:56.210 --> 01:41:58.550
a lot of years, for the whole 20 year plus
1838
01:41:59.829 --> 01:42:02.710
run of our show, in fact, I've been interviewing Americans
1839
01:42:02.750 --> 01:42:04.840
who are running for office with no problem at all.
1840
01:42:05.399 --> 01:42:10.289
just like Letterman did, Leno did, Arsenio, etc. He said,
1841
01:42:10.329 --> 01:42:12.550
I interviewed Donald Trump when he was running for president
1842
01:42:12.590 --> 01:42:15.130
in 2015, and at that time, when he was the
1843
01:42:15.449 --> 01:42:18.149
one sitting next to me, he seemed to have no
1844
01:42:18.210 --> 01:42:20.909
problem with the idea of talk show host interviewing candidates.
1845
01:42:20.949 --> 01:42:23.220
In fact, he was very eager to come back for
1846
01:42:23.270 --> 01:42:26.319
another interview, which he did just before he became the
1847
01:42:26.359 --> 01:42:27.300
nominee in 2016.
1848
01:42:27.300 --> 01:42:30.140
Yeah, so it's okay when it's Trump, but it's not
1849
01:42:30.220 --> 01:42:32.159
okay when it's against Trump, I guess.
1850
01:42:32.220 --> 01:42:35.819
Yeah, he said, but for some reason... And I can't
1851
01:42:35.859 --> 01:42:39.789
seem to figure out what the reason is. Something has changed.
1852
01:42:41.489 --> 01:42:42.930
And so, you know, this is the same thing that
1853
01:42:42.949 --> 01:42:46.970
happened with Colbert. Colbert had Telerico on. And the show
1854
01:42:47.050 --> 01:42:55.880
ran on the YouTube channel. That's what happened. So that's
1855
01:42:55.920 --> 01:43:01.579
the story. I love my Jimmy Kimmel. Don't take him away.
1856
01:43:02.239 --> 01:43:05.329
You know, I have so few things to. To live for.
1857
01:43:06.229 --> 01:43:10.590
Don't take my Jimmy Kimmel. Tomorrow, I'll play you some Tallarico.
1858
01:43:10.609 --> 01:43:12.770
I was going to play it today, but it's a
1859
01:43:12.850 --> 01:43:16.670
little late. I have an interview to record. I've got
1860
01:43:16.689 --> 01:43:20.560
some good interviews. I've got Gil Duran coming up, too.
1861
01:43:20.800 --> 01:43:26.939
And then, as I'll remind you right now, tomorrow, a very,
1862
01:43:26.979 --> 01:43:31.319
very special guy, Kenneth Feinberg, to talk about September 11th.
1863
01:43:31.359 --> 01:43:37.390
He was the volunteer who came forward to help victim
1864
01:43:37.670 --> 01:43:42.000
families with the government and a settlement with the government.
1865
01:43:42.300 --> 01:43:47.119
Something to address their loss, even knowing that nothing could
1866
01:43:47.140 --> 01:43:50.989
address their loss. It was so massive, that loss. And
1867
01:43:51.010 --> 01:43:54.130
it was not without controversy. And it wasn't the last
1868
01:43:54.189 --> 01:43:56.909
time he was involved in something like that. So that
1869
01:43:57.109 --> 01:44:01.470
is tomorrow. on the anniversary of 9-11. We will do that.
1870
01:44:01.770 --> 01:44:03.909
Thank you, Albert. Thank you, Kim. Thank you, everybody.
1871
01:44:03.930 --> 01:44:06.689
I'm Shadow Stevens for the Mark Johnson Show.
1872
01:44:07.510 --> 01:44:07.770
Bye-bye.
1873
01:44:08.109 --> 01:44:11.140
Appreciate all your support, everyone. We're out of time. Out
1874
01:44:11.159 --> 01:44:11.579
of time.
1875
01:44:11.680 --> 01:44:12.399
Bye-bye.
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01:44:13.300 --> 01:44:14.239
Bye-bye.
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01:44:27.750 --> 01:44:28.569
Thank you.
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01:44:49.029 --> 01:44:50.989
Thank you.