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This is The Full Weave I'm Mindy Santo and I'm
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Andrea McCaskey Join us on this podcast journey
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as we blend together the pieces of our lives
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that create our Tapestry and as it blends with
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other people's lives and how we connect with
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their tapestries We'll talk about physical and
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mental health, things we wish people would have
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told us at this age, midlife and the in -between,
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grief, advocacy, and connection. So give yourself
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a moment to sit back, relax, and listen in on
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our next episode. When was the last time you
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had an encounter with someone that left you curious
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for more information, but you just weren't comfortable
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enough to ask? One thing is certain, Mindy. Communication
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is key. and think about that in terms of relationships,
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having conversations, thinking about conflict.
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I can remember a time when it felt like the word
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conflict automatically meant we were going to
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be at swords crossed and yelling and screaming.
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Dukes up. Yes, absolutely. And what I learned
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is that Conflict actually is really good. And
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it doesn't the word doesn't have to connote anything
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negative. It really is asking for clarification.
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And I think 90 percent, if not 99 percent of
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the time, you walk away with greater understanding
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of the person that you thought you were in conflict
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with. And you might end up agreeing on whatever
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the thing is. I think about that, especially
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when I worked in human resources. Oh, wow. Yes.
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There were often employees who saw something
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differently or received the message from the
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manager in a way differently than the manager
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actually meant. And because they're an authority
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figure, they didn't feel like they could ask
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clarifying questions. Wow. Communication, conversation.
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I know somebody who when they were asked to have
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a conversation -- they were in a relationship --
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It automatically sent this bolt of anxiety through
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their bodies because they felt like they were
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being questioned about. their way of believing.
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It feels like an attack. That's exactly it. That's
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exactly it. You're about to be attacked. And
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I feel like there's a better way to, kind of that
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word that Andrea and I have talked about, the
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deconditioning of these normal what we have have
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I guess has come into society as a normal response.
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And that's not normal. Right. The results from
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a conversation or conflict and then clarification.
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That is a fair way to engage in healthy discourse.
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Absolutely. Absolutely. And I think about this
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all the time. When I was a kid growing up, my
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grandmother would also always say or often say
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children should be seen and not heard. And I
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can remember as an adult asking my dad, well,
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if that is true, then when are we as adults supposed
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to learn how to have conversation, how to have
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a disagreement, how to have discourse. If you
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don't learn that at home, because at home you
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were told Don't talk unless I ask you for something
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So that is that is how many people I'm not the
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only one I'm sure but that's how a lot of people
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grew up. That is so interesting to me because
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that is not my experience, maybe it's a southern
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thing. and so I Find that when I was younger it
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was you know, why what is this? Why why why and
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so it could be that? parents and a generational
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sort of understanding. That's probably a family. thing
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Yes, we definitely did not abide by those rules.
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Thankfully, that is great. I'm glad that you
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did not. I was actually considered a motormouth
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in school. I would get that often on my report
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cards. But the question everything. That is
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the message we want to convey because we are
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looking at circumstances in our lives that we
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feel it's necessary because we have an intuition
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about something and know this doesn't feel quite
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right. And that's why it's so important. to pay
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attention to what your body is feeling, what
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it's saying to you. We often know when something
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just doesn't feel right or that just didn't sound
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right or that struck me wrong. And we get to
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investigate that within ourselves to say, now,
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what is it about that that gives me pause? And
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I think that's it. pause, not necessarily the
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feeling that, you know, my friend's partner had
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where it was an escalation of response to her
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question. We need to have a conversation. We
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want to help de -escalate those feelings of resistance
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and uncertainty, because uncertainty feels weird
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no matter how you slice it. And we can also look
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at as uncertainty is what's on the other side.
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And there could be that conflict resolution and
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answers to what's happening. Absolutely. Absolutely.
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And you get to know more about someone if you're
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curious and you ask respectfully, certainly,
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Of course, and genuinely with the desire to
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listen and hear what they have to say. For me
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that was in my appointments with doctors and
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hormone specialist because I knew that I was
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not getting the right answers because I wasn't
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feeling right. And, I have to be mindful that it
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is about me and not about the doctor's feelings.
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They are the professional. I'm looking to them
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for answers and if they can't help me, then it
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is my responsibility to find someone who can.
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It absolutely is. We talk about agency a lot
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and we have agency authority over our own bodies.
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and a responsibility to advocate for ourselves.
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I think what I have found in my doctor's appointments,
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because I've had quite a number of them, is that
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I have to be able to share with each doctor what
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the other doctor said so that they're making
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a decision based on all the information that
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they have, which requires me to ask a number
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of questions. Dr. A prescribed these medications
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for this reason, for this length of time. How
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will that interact with what you are prescribing
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for me, with what you are asking of me? Dr. C
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has also prescribed whatever for however long
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a period of time. Here are all the surgeries
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that I've had. Here are all the diagnoses that
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I have had. One thing that I have learned, with
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the breast cancer diagnosis I received is had
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I had lymph nodes removed, then my cardiologist
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needed to know that in order to do a heart catheter
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scan. Random things that I... Had no idea about
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They need to know which side to do to check It
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is that is why we have to ask all the questions
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and write down the answers or record them or
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take someone with us. So we get all the answers.
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That is a lot of responsibility. It is indeed
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it is and and if we don't do that the results
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can be can be not always certainly but they can
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be dire. Absolutely, and kind of tied in with the
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questioning doctors and being an advocate for
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your own care, is they are portrayed as an authority
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figure. Yes, they are. And I feel like that ties
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back into the children. be seen and not heard.
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Do not question your parents or your grandparents.
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You know what they say. It rules. It is the end
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all be all. And I think the same with doctors.
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That is the feeling that I get. I would agree.
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And they are, yes, perhaps the authority in what
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they know. We are the authority in who we are
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and what we feel and we get to say that, um,
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that doesn't feel right for me. Help me understand.
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That's their role is to help us understand. And
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I think the thing that I wanted to get comfortable
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with was I get to call the shots. I get to say,
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I don't. I'm done with treatment or I want different
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treatment. You know, we get to ask. We get to
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ask the question. We should ask the question.
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I want a second opinion. Absolutely. That's the
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hardest thing to say because we all feel so loyal
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or I do. I've for a long time, I felt loyal to
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my hairstylist. Yes. to my doctors, my dentist,
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no more. And a part of that, though, what I have
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decided for me is I don't ask for a second opinion
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because it took me so doggone long to get the
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first opinion, which just says don't let things
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linger. When you find an issue with your health
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that's a problem, it's time at that point to
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start looking for resolution or answers. Absolutely.
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Absolutely. I also think about we talked about
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authority figures. I think about church. I grew
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up in in the south and a traditional church and
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we just were taught that the pastor was the authority
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and he spoke for God. I don't think that anymore,
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but that's what I was taught as a child, or at
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least that's what I believe. That's what I took
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from what I heard. Gosh, where do I even start?
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You know, I think from a spiritual or religious
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standpoint, the God I choose to serve is big
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enough for me to ask questions. Excuse me. I
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have questions about that. Now I may never get
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an answer and I need to be okay with that part.
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And I still get to ask. I still get to ask. Um,
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we, not we, as I have grown in my spiritual journey,
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I have asked mostly myself as well as those Um,
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that I have sought answers from about, you know,
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is this the life that I want? And in getting
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to yes, as an answer to that question, I've asked
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for lots of people's opinions or lots of people's
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thoughts. And what I've recognized is I get to
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choose what I want to believe. I don't have to
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believe. just because I sought someone's opinion
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or their advice or their expertise in a topic.
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I get to decide what works for me and what doesn't.
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I love that. Well, what popped into my head was
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about education and career and life path in general.
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It to me, the norm and I'm doing air quotations
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is going to school, graduating, going to college,
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choosing a career. And now I feel like more people
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are questioning that norm. They are taking a
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sabbatical. They are going to school overseas
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or maybe. leaving high school and going right
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into their job training on the job. I feel like
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there are so many opportunities for that and
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that's something I wish that when I was younger
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I would have felt more confident to do and I
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feel like it was so important. I was the first
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one in my family to graduate from college, there's
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only three generations later, there are two that
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one has just graduated. So that was a big weight.
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I don't know if it was a burden in that I felt
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responsible, but it felt liberating to be that
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person and to. get out there and do my thing.
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And if I had to do it over again, of course,
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I would not be here with Andrea. I would tell
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people to look beyond these borders or boundaries
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of education, the expectation that we
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have now. And again, if I think about it, I might
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have chosen the route that I've taken. But I
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wish that I had thought more about all the options
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that were available. Yes, given them more weight,
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given them more credence, talked to people who
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didn't go right to college and went right into
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a trade or right into the military and how that
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worked out for them and whether or not that would
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have been a good path for me. We'll never know.
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We are here now It worked out well, that's right
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and something else that popped into our Information
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that we feel is relevant at this time is The
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and I'm picking up my phone the brain we carry
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around in our pockets that every algorithm on
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Every social media platform, even news feeds,
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knows exactly, exactly what you want to read
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and hear and learn about. So be mindful of what
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you see, hear and read. If it feels like there's
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something a little off, dive a little deeper
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if it matters to you. Don't go down the rabbit
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hole if you're getting ready to go to work because
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there is always a rabbit hole. They are long
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and dark. So always take that into consideration
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and think about that with the people around you
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who are also just absorbed in that device and
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how they're being affected and the things that
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they may share with you, because that is absolutely
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something that will happen in this current political
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climate. So always be mindful of the information
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that you are receiving. Question the source.
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That's right. So as we wrap up, we talked about
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several topics authorities in healthcare, authorities
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in your spiritual life. We talked a bit about
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relationships and some about education. These
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are all topics that we will dive into deeper
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in subsequent episodes, so stay tuned for those.
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And so we hope what you gained today was an understanding
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that oftentimes as women, We are told not to
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question authority and we want to buck that trend.
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In all areas of our lives we want to be curious.
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We hope that you will join us again, Andrea and
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Mindy on The Full Weave. Thanks for joining us
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on The Full Weave. We hope you found threads
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to make your tapestry stronger and more beautiful.
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If this episode wasn't for you right now, bookmark
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it for later. or send it to a friend. Join us
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again in two weeks as we continue to connect,
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advocate and support one another.
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This is The Full Weave I'm Mindy Santo and I'm
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Andrea McCaskey Join us on this podcast journey
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as we blend together the pieces of our lives
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that create our Tapestry and as it blends with
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other people's lives and how we connect with
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their tapestries We'll talk about physical and
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mental health, things we wish people would have
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told us at this age, midlife and the in -between,
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grief, advocacy, and connection. So give yourself
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a moment to sit back, relax, and listen in on
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our next episode. When was the last time you
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had an encounter with someone that left you curious
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for more information, but you just weren't comfortable
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enough to ask? One thing is certain, Mindy. Communication
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is key. and think about that in terms of relationships,
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having conversations, thinking about conflict.
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I can remember a time when it felt like the word
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conflict automatically meant we were going to
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be at swords crossed and yelling and screaming.
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Dukes up. Yes, absolutely. And what I learned
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is that Conflict actually is really good. And
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it doesn't the word doesn't have to connote anything
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negative. It really is asking for clarification.
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And I think 90 percent, if not 99 percent of
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the time, you walk away with greater understanding
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of the person that you thought you were in conflict
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with. And you might end up agreeing on whatever
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the thing is. I think about that, especially
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when I worked in human resources. Oh, wow. Yes.
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There were often employees who saw something
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differently or received the message from the
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manager in a way differently than the manager
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actually meant. And because they're an authority
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figure, they didn't feel like they could ask
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clarifying questions. Wow. Communication, conversation.
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I know somebody who when they were asked to have
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a conversation -- they were in a relationship --
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It automatically sent this bolt of anxiety through
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their bodies because they felt like they were
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being questioned about. their way of believing.
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It feels like an attack. That's exactly it. That's
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exactly it. You're about to be attacked. And
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I feel like there's a better way to, kind of that
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word that Andrea and I have talked about, the
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deconditioning of these normal what we have have
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I guess has come into society as a normal response.
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And that's not normal. Right. The results from
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a conversation or conflict and then clarification.
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That is a fair way to engage in healthy discourse.
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Absolutely. Absolutely. And I think about this
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all the time. When I was a kid growing up, my
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grandmother would also always say or often say
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children should be seen and not heard. And I
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can remember as an adult asking my dad, well,
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if that is true, then when are we as adults supposed
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to learn how to have conversation, how to have
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a disagreement, how to have discourse. If you
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don't learn that at home, because at home you
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were told Don't talk unless I ask you for something
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So that is that is how many people I'm not the
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only one I'm sure but that's how a lot of people
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grew up. That is so interesting to me because
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that is not my experience, maybe it's a southern
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thing. and so I Find that when I was younger it
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was you know, why what is this? Why why why and
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so it could be that? parents and a generational
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sort of understanding. That's probably a family. thing
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Yes, we definitely did not abide by those rules.
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Thankfully, that is great. I'm glad that you
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did not. I was actually considered a motormouth
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in school. I would get that often on my report
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cards. But the question everything. That is
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the message we want to convey because we are
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looking at circumstances in our lives that we
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feel it's necessary because we have an intuition
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about something and know this doesn't feel quite
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right. And that's why it's so important. to pay
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attention to what your body is feeling, what
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it's saying to you. We often know when something
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just doesn't feel right or that just didn't sound
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right or that struck me wrong. And we get to
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investigate that within ourselves to say, now,
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what is it about that that gives me pause? And
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I think that's it. pause, not necessarily the
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feeling that, you know, my friend's partner had
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where it was an escalation of response to her
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question. We need to have a conversation. We
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want to help de -escalate those feelings of resistance
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and uncertainty, because uncertainty feels weird
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no matter how you slice it. And we can also look
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at as uncertainty is what's on the other side.
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And there could be that conflict resolution and
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answers to what's happening. Absolutely. Absolutely.
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And you get to know more about someone if you're
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curious and you ask respectfully, certainly,
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Of course, and genuinely with the desire to
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listen and hear what they have to say. For me
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that was in my appointments with doctors and
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hormone specialist because I knew that I was
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not getting the right answers because I wasn't
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feeling right. And, I have to be mindful that it
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is about me and not about the doctor's feelings.
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They are the professional. I'm looking to them
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for answers and if they can't help me, then it
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is my responsibility to find someone who can.
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It absolutely is. We talk about agency a lot
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and we have agency authority over our own bodies.
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and a responsibility to advocate for ourselves.
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I think what I have found in my doctor's appointments,
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because I've had quite a number of them, is that
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I have to be able to share with each doctor what
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the other doctor said so that they're making
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a decision based on all the information that
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they have, which requires me to ask a number
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of questions. Dr. A prescribed these medications
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for this reason, for this length of time. How
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will that interact with what you are prescribing
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for me, with what you are asking of me? Dr. C
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has also prescribed whatever for however long
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a period of time. Here are all the surgeries
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that I've had. Here are all the diagnoses that
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I have had. One thing that I have learned, with
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the breast cancer diagnosis I received is had
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I had lymph nodes removed, then my cardiologist
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needed to know that in order to do a heart catheter
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scan. Random things that I... Had no idea about
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They need to know which side to do to check It
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is that is why we have to ask all the questions
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and write down the answers or record them or
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take someone with us. So we get all the answers.
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That is a lot of responsibility. It is indeed
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it is and and if we don't do that the results
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can be can be not always certainly but they can
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be dire. Absolutely, and kind of tied in with the
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questioning doctors and being an advocate for
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your own care, is they are portrayed as an authority
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figure. Yes, they are. And I feel like that ties
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back into the children. be seen and not heard.
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Do not question your parents or your grandparents.
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You know what they say. It rules. It is the end
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all be all. And I think the same with doctors.
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That is the feeling that I get. I would agree.
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And they are, yes, perhaps the authority in what
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they know. We are the authority in who we are
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and what we feel and we get to say that, um,
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that doesn't feel right for me. Help me understand.
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That's their role is to help us understand. And
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I think the thing that I wanted to get comfortable
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with was I get to call the shots. I get to say,
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I don't. I'm done with treatment or I want different
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treatment. You know, we get to ask. We get to
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ask the question. We should ask the question.
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I want a second opinion. Absolutely. That's the
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hardest thing to say because we all feel so loyal
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or I do. I've for a long time, I felt loyal to
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my hairstylist. Yes. to my doctors, my dentist,
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no more. And a part of that, though, what I have
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decided for me is I don't ask for a second opinion
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because it took me so doggone long to get the
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first opinion, which just says don't let things
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linger. When you find an issue with your health
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that's a problem, it's time at that point to
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start looking for resolution or answers. Absolutely.
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Absolutely. I also think about we talked about
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authority figures. I think about church. I grew
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up in in the south and a traditional church and
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we just were taught that the pastor was the authority
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and he spoke for God. I don't think that anymore,
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but that's what I was taught as a child, or at
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least that's what I believe. That's what I took
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from what I heard. Gosh, where do I even start?
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You know, I think from a spiritual or religious
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standpoint, the God I choose to serve is big
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enough for me to ask questions. Excuse me. I
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have questions about that. Now I may never get
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an answer and I need to be okay with that part.
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And I still get to ask. I still get to ask. Um,
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we, not we, as I have grown in my spiritual journey,
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I have asked mostly myself as well as those Um,
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that I have sought answers from about, you know,
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is this the life that I want? And in getting
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to yes, as an answer to that question, I've asked
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for lots of people's opinions or lots of people's
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thoughts. And what I've recognized is I get to
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choose what I want to believe. I don't have to
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believe. just because I sought someone's opinion
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or their advice or their expertise in a topic.
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I get to decide what works for me and what doesn't.
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I love that. Well, what popped into my head was
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about education and career and life path in general.
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It to me, the norm and I'm doing air quotations
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is going to school, graduating, going to college,
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choosing a career. And now I feel like more people
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are questioning that norm. They are taking a
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sabbatical. They are going to school overseas
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or maybe. leaving high school and going right
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into their job training on the job. I feel like
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there are so many opportunities for that and
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that's something I wish that when I was younger
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I would have felt more confident to do and I
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feel like it was so important. I was the first
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one in my family to graduate from college, there's
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only three generations later, there are two that
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one has just graduated. So that was a big weight.
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I don't know if it was a burden in that I felt
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responsible, but it felt liberating to be that
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person and to. get out there and do my thing.
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And if I had to do it over again, of course,
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I would not be here with Andrea. I would tell
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people to look beyond these borders or boundaries
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of education, the expectation that we
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have now. And again, if I think about it, I might
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have chosen the route that I've taken. But I
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wish that I had thought more about all the options
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that were available. Yes, given them more weight,
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given them more credence, talked to people who
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didn't go right to college and went right into
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a trade or right into the military and how that
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worked out for them and whether or not that would
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have been a good path for me. We'll never know.
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We are here now It worked out well, that's right
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and something else that popped into our Information
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that we feel is relevant at this time is The
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and I'm picking up my phone the brain we carry
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around in our pockets that every algorithm on
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Every social media platform, even news feeds,
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knows exactly, exactly what you want to read
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and hear and learn about. So be mindful of what
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you see, hear and read. If it feels like there's
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something a little off, dive a little deeper
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if it matters to you. Don't go down the rabbit
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hole if you're getting ready to go to work because
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there is always a rabbit hole. They are long
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and dark. So always take that into consideration
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and think about that with the people around you
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who are also just absorbed in that device and
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how they're being affected and the things that
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they may share with you, because that is absolutely
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something that will happen in this current political
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climate. So always be mindful of the information
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that you are receiving. Question the source.
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That's right. So as we wrap up, we talked about
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several topics authorities in healthcare, authorities
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in your spiritual life. We talked a bit about
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relationships and some about education. These
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are all topics that we will dive into deeper
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in subsequent episodes, so stay tuned for those.
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And so we hope what you gained today was an understanding
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that oftentimes as women, We are told not to
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question authority and we want to buck that trend.
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In all areas of our lives we want to be curious.
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We hope that you will join us again, Andrea and
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Mindy on The Full Weave. Thanks for joining us
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on The Full Weave. We hope you found threads
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to make your tapestry stronger and more beautiful.
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