TableBuzz 35 (feat. Sheldon Keefe)

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Do you any questions before we start? Or your trained pro I can imagine

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you're ready to go. UH,
he's pretty ready to go. A little

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rusty, it's when, you know, a few months off here. Yeah,

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getting into the swing of things now, you guys. Yeah, get

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me back into it with your heart
getting questions here. Yeah, yeah,

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we'll be an easy warm up for
you. Yeah, big journey. What's

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going on? You guys? LIVING
IN TORONTO NOW? We're are we moved

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up here for the summer and then
heading back to P I for the winter,

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but we had a wicked time down. Yeah, all right, we

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got it a bit backwards, but
we'll figure it out. All right,

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boys, we're back with table.
Boy was here. Pretty big guests,

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I mean obviously you're looking at him. We Got Sheldon Keef on the pod

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this week, head coach of your
Toronto Maple leafs. Sheldon, it's a

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pleasure to have you on. How
you doing today? Doing very well.

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It's great to be here with you, guys. We appreciate you taking the

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time at your busy schedule. You
know the season is about to get going

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here, so thanks again. Yeah, yeah, you're one of those UH

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NHL Coaches we've got a couple of
them that have connections to Prince Edward Island.

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We're obviously P I. Guys were
big P I advocates. So you

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just want to explain your connection to
p I sure, sure thing. Yeah,

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all my family from the Uh both
my parents born and raised and from

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the island. Most of our family
is there and uncle's, cousins, grandparents.

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It's where I spent virtually every summer
of my life growing up. Been

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Back, not nearly as much as
as we, as I'd like and as

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we like as my family has grown
and it's kind of taking us the other

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way as I married a girl from
Scott Still Arizona. My wife, Jackie's

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from there and that's where we've spent
most of our summers. A lot harder

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to get to the island, but
uh yeah, it's a special place that

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you know, not only from my
family perspective, but growing up there and

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spending so much time they're growing up
and learned to appreciate everything about it.

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Um. So yeah, the roots
there are certainly well entrenched. That's that's

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awesome. Do you have any favorite
places on Pi that you like to go

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to in the summer? You know
what it's interesting. Um, you know,

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obviously my parents being from there,
they didn't have a whole lot of

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interest in doing anything to tourists when
we got out there. So it really

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we headed out. Mombs from technish
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uh time out in that area and
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a ton of the island, uh, but that area of course, with

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having I mean everywhere you turned there's
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reason and everything everything about the landscape
around there, it's a it's a great

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place, special place. So when
you guys reached out because P I is

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is is special to our family,
uh, there's a no brainer. And

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Got, you know, UH,
Western capital here as well. So the

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junior a level itself is special place
for me where I got my starting coaching

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and and I had some sets of
battles with the caps along the way in

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the red page cups and all that. So lots of connections here. So

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it's a pleasure to spend time with
you guys wake. Thank you. We

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we appreciate it. I heard there
were some stories about the caps and some

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some home ice advantage stuff going on
back in the junior a days, but

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we we won't get into that too
much. P I is one of the

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one of those places where we don't
really have a team that everyone cheers for.

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It's pretty diverse, but the heavy
hand has got to go to the

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maple leafs. We're in a group
chat with our buddies and I think over

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half of them have got to be
leaf fans. So there's definitely a lot

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of people that were keen to get
this episode in and I'm sure quite quite

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a few of them will be surprised
to hear that you actually have a strong

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P I connection. But yeah,
we got a lot of leaf fans listening

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in case you're wondering. Well,
that's that is. That is great to

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hear. I've got a number,
let's say my family is is. You're

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pretty split. I've got some got
let's leaf fans and my dad is has

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grown up a thie, hard to
haves fans, so he said he's had

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to wear both hats your last think
he's converted pretty good, but but he

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certainly follows those haps quite closely.
That must have been an interesting first round

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a couple of years ago. We
won't get into it, though. We'll

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start off we'll start off with your
your playing career, because I mean you're

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you're pretty nasty. In the early
days you had the OH l rookie of

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the year over, you know,
guys like Jason Spezza. You had a

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pretty pretty fantastic time there junior ohl, leading score as well. What was

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it like in your junior hockey days? Well, certainly in terms of how

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my playing career goes, it would
have been in the highlight of in terms

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of my evens. You know,
it was a tough road from there getting

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into pro hockey, but yeah,
it was. It was an interesting time

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for me at the time, making
a tough decision between N C double a

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and going to play major junior in
the OHL, and took a little bit,

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a little bit of time actually,
you know. That's why I chuck

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a little bit at my Oh l
rookie of the year trophy, your reward.

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You know, I was I was
an eighteen year old rookie at the

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time, as I had played next
year junior rights. I put sixteen and

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Seventeen Uh and I think uh spaz
he referred to there, who I beat

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out for the more. I think
he was fifteen. Wasn't under it.

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So that's quite a bit of an
advantage. He's a pretty special player and

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obviously special person and uh, unbelievable
how long he was able to play for

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and being an impactful player. And
now he's converted onto the management side here

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and his early retirement days and has
been their own believable asset to our our

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management team on that side of it. But it's interesting how that comes full

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circle, for sure. But yeah, I had a bit of an edge.

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There is an eighteen year old rookie. But that extra time that I

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spent at the junior a level and
sort of waying that N C double a

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decision actually served me very well.
I developed a lot in that time.

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I got a little bigger, a
little stronger. had a really good seventeen

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year old year playing for the Calvin
Canadiens and uh from there the side of

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the play and made a junior and
had a big year, great start with

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the sat mike's Majors. Ended up
getting trading from there to the buried colts,

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which also served me very well.
Very COTINEA. We got traded to

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drafted from there and then went back
for one final year at Nineteen, which

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we ended up winning nhil championship.
So, uh yeah, from team accomplishments

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in terms of winning that championship and
then also my personal achievements. Uh,

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you know, Legal League in scoring
and things like that was somewhat unexpected between

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my eighteen and nineteen year old year
thing. That's a lot of things really

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clicked for me, offensively especially,
and and you know, things happened pretty

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quickly. It's a very small window
that you have to get noticed and capitalize

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on your time in junior hockey and, and you know from in my case,

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get drafted the NHL or NHL contract. Players have a very small window

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to capitalize on those years and I
was fortunate to do so and give me

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an opportunity to play professionally. Are
you sure made the most of it?

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What was it like playing with Barry
and the Memorial Cup? They're like the

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men cups, a huge tournament in
Canada for those I don't know. I'm

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sure everyone knows, but what was
that? Ye, playing in that,

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I mean it was it was great. We got to hit up to the

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Barrin Times there we were in Halifax. Oh really, okay, yeah,

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yeah, it was. It was
a great it was a great event at

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the time. Uh, you know, we uh, we had a good

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tournament but unfortunately couldn't uh VPI data. Brad Richards there through Wosky. Uh,

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there a pretty dominant team and he
was a dominant player. Of course,

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ended up playing with him in Tampa
Bay after that. But yeah,

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that was a great tournament to be
able to play against those teams, you

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know, from different leagues. Uh. You know, you don't get that

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opportunity obviously very often in junior hockey. Uh So to compete at that level

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was was, was great. It
was a great event and I had some

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family come over from P I to
join us in Halifax Watch and you know,

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all those kind of things made it
extra special. Yeah, big time.

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See Men cups just a huge tournament. Ganada, I thought I had

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to ask that. Yeah, well
then we may as well get into the

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NHL. But the last little glimpse
of the playing career there. You had

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a couple of goals in the NHL. Do you remember your first goal?

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I do, I do. I'll
never forget that one's thing. I don't

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know how any goals I scored in
the Hl, uh, you know,

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in the two years I was there. Um, you know, but scored

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quite a few goals in the NHL
and I don't think I ever scored one

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on a slap shot. It's not
much of a shooter, but I ended

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up coming over the Blue Line and
taking a slop shot down the wing overall

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off coals like who was coming off
of Vesna trophy season and floated one over

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his shoulder. That I don't think
he was too happy about. Yeah,

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he actually broke his stick and half
over the crossbar. That's how he felt

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about my whistling shot going by him. But it was actually a pretty big

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goal at the time in the game
and it was at the time Tampa Bay

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didn't didn't have much for crowds or
energy or things like that. Of course

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that's that's changed dramatically now where that
the franchises at where they've come since then,

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but at the time it was a
pretty good crowd on that night.

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It was good energy in the building. Was I think we had just scored

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to take the lead as a tie
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lead and it's like the next shift
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and still kind of isn't from the
goal previous. Uh, so it was.

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It was an important goal and it
was just strange how how it goes

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in and just scored so many goals. You picture going how your first goal

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might be and it ends up,
you know, uh, sort of an

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unorthodox type slap shot down the way
to find its way in on on a

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world classically like that. So I
certainly haven't forgotten that one. I made

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it to junior before I ever scored
a goal with the slap shot and it

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was a stationary ice burner bottom right
corner, and I was just like what?

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Obviously it wasn't an old off Clzi, but they come in an at

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the odd time. Yeah, yeah, they do, for sure, for

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sure, especially, I mean now
the way you guys shooting now, with

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the sticks being what they are and
you know, as good as players are

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nowadays. I mean even I got
two kids playing hockey now with their ten

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and twelve, and seeing them and
some of their friends and how they can

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shoot a buck these days, it's
uh, it's crazy. So I mean

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can we close the book on the
playing career? There can move with.

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I want to add. Well,
it wasn't much one. So it was

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like you said, you played with
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was obviously really good. Like Vinny
Lecavia, him and Brad been together since

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their teenagers, I think. Like, what was that group like? Behind

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the scenes kind of thing? They're
probably pretty tight. Yeah, they were

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tight and it was it was interesting
for me, I mean vinny, obviously

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at the time had already played in
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in at the same time. Uh
It were, and Brad, vinny and

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myself for all the same age on
my team, eighty births. So it

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was a pretty it was a mix
of young players and veteran players on the

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team. We had some of the
young guys, but certainly, you know,

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Brad and anywhere or as tight as
they come, but being the same

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age. Uh, you know,
we spent quite a bit of time with

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those guys and it was great to
have guys like that to lean on.

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I, of course, was more
battling out to try to find my way

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in the NHL and I spent as
much time or more time in the minors

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and I did in the NHL,
as it were, and obviously Brad and

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many were going the opposite way and
excelling and the world class players. But

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uh, you know, it was
it was good to have guys like that

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in that situation at that time and
seeing them grow. U See how that

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team grew, you know, whether
it's Brad and Vinney, or look at

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Martin St Louis, who you know, he came in. He also came

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to Tampa the same year that I
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talking to Marty at the draft here
not long ago in Montreal, and we

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were joking about the fact that he
used to be a healthy scratch and I

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would play and in that first year. And that's how you know how far

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Marty came and how he remained resilient
and found his way and once he got

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his opportunity, never looked back.
It was incredible for me how good a

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player he was, yet it just
didn't seem like he was getting much opportunity

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and then once he did, he
never looked back, Um, and it's

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a credit to him and what an
example for any young player that's out there

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that feels like they're being overlooked or
feel like it feels like they're not going

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to get their chance, their opportunities, to keep pushing and keep pushing and

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when the door opens, capitalize on
it. There's no greater example than Marty

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Saint Luisa to see that kind of
play out. And then as my career

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sort of you know, went back
to the miners and then had some injury

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issues and began coaching, as I'm
sure we're going to get into, you

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know, my time with plumber things. Uh. You know, as I

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started to transition into that, I
reflected a lot on my time in Tampa

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because that team that I was sort
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it in the NHL, that team
was growing through John Totrelian leadership and the

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development of players like Brad and Bennie
and Marty St Louis and the leadership of

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Davanridgechup and Tim Taylor and these guys, and he's you know, kind of

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seeing that organization grow and Bill to
transform itself to what became a Stanley Cup

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champion. Um. That really set
the framework for me as a coach.

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Yeah, that's a pretty good crash
course right there for sure. And I

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mean you started off your coaching career
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mean, did it just seem too
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feel that easy. It's a lot
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class, made some some good trades
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good players and really capitalize on that
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and and that sort of you know, as junior a goes, you

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know success, whether it's on the
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receive scholarships or move on to play
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that that kind of feels the whole
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a little bit easier as time we're
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of success and word of health.
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level, you know uh as Josh, you would know. It's like a

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lot of his word of mouth.
It's like you know you have a buddy

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or he has a friend or you
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talking and all of a sudden the
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lot easier and players want to come
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great place pembroke is a special place. You know, junior in Ontario's a

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little head of mess in terms of
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you know, uh, it's footprint
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in terms of fans and supporting all
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special in that sense. I don't
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lot of maritime uh you know if
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some things that we could really capitalize
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I learned a ton through that,
through that opportunity to coach, and I

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was the owner of the team at
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able to make mistakes and not have
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place and so many great people.
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as you guys would know, is
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in the community and people, you
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you know. It's why pembroke is
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fortunate to have, you know,
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like that, but I don't even
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the lumber kings in the eemper community. Yeah, big time. When you

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were looking at buying a junior team, like were you at? Have you

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been to pembroke before you did you
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this team and you're like yeah,
yeah, well, that was what was

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interesting is I had never been Depemberg
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gentleman by the name of Kevin Abrams
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the commissioner of the League. Um, he had well, while I was

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playing, as I had I had
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but he'd been around junior a long
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sort of casually mentioned to me,
you know, my early days of playing

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pro hockey. Hey, would you
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that'd be great something to do when
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It's hockey's really all I know.
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NEAT. Um came back to me
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you know, if you were serious
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Miss Opportunity in Pembroke, Ontario at
the lumber kings and sent me a lot

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of information on it and I did
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uh, you know, it made
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but also the community itself. It
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me off guard fact because, as
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is his head or miss and you
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of buying a team and what you
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there's a great following, great support
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arena, like so many things that
were really cool about it. So I

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took that opportunity to invest in it
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playing career, but didn't less nearly
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But it was an easy transition,
in the natural transition for me into coaching

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from there. As a result,
so Kevin he when I bought the team,

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Kevin was running the team as coach
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the framework of success for the team. Also, when I came in,

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he, Kevin, actually ended up
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little bit and then, uh,
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the commission in the League. Think
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has grown to be something far different
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and really making it for the model
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in Canada, certainly in Ontario.
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set up well through Kevin's leadership.
And when I when I made a decision

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to stop playing, uh, you
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managing role and trying to figure it
out on the fly. You figured it

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out. The rest is history.
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said it was great. It was, uh, I mean not just hockey

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wise, but you know, my
wife and I got married during our time

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in Pembrooke Um and then both of
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it's it's an interesting Tis with my
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the national ampionship in Pembroke Um,
in two thousand eleven, the one which

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was called the RBC Cup. I
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maybe back to the Centennial Cup like
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my son was born on the first
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two thousand and ten, August twenty
two thousand and ten. It was the

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opening day of training camp he was
born. We won the national championship that

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year. And then our second son
was born in, Uh Eight, two

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thousand twelve, which we won the
National Championship and eight. That was two

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thousand eleven. So my kids to
birthdates are the two bookends to what was

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the national championship seasonal. So it
was the starting finish of that those season

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of that season is, for lots
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So is there another kid on the
way or any? That's uh,

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that's interesting. Um, I never
thought of it that way, but don't

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my wife any ideas? So safe
to say, pembroke cold's a pretty special

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place in your heart. Yeah,
without a doubt. You know, when

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you're operating a team like the lumber
kings, it's it's as I was sort

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of alluding to, it's it's more
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we on the concessions in the building, we ran all of that and,

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you know, it was a big
operation. We relied on a lot

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of volunteers, you know, to
help us with that and carry the load,

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and without them we just had no, no chance whatsoever of surviving.

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Um, and because of those efforts
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figure out how to coach. You
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would be any good at it at
the time and we were able to have

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success and build on that. You
know, it was it was not easy

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in the sense of the work that
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because of we had so many great
people that are, you know, become

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great friends of ours and Um,
people we would, you know, go

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out of our way at any time
to help and Um, you know,

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stay in contact with and all of
that, just because it really really wouldn't

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have gotten off the ground for me
and my career, which is interesting because

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I didn't go into it thinking I
was going to develop a career. I

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mean, big reason with my decision
to to step step away from playing and

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begin coaching was was at a time
in my life where my wife, my

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wife Jackie, and I were getting
engaged and, uh, you know,

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I was starting to think about trying
to get some roots and settle things a

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little bit. You know, my
in my four years of playing professional hockey,

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I was I had lived in seven
cities, moving around. Yeah,

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yeah, there's you know, there's
our course, there's some players that are

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very fortunate to stay in one place
and all of that, but reality is

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a majority of players to move around
the time and that's that's the allunge and

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takes a toll. And we did
take a toll on me and, you

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know, the chance to settle down
still be involved in hockey was really appealing

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to me. Uh So went into
that and we were fully comfortable spending our

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lives in Pembruck and uh settling there. But, as it turned out,

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as time we're on and it seemed
like, you know, maybe I was

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developing something that could open up other
doors. I started to explore those opportunities

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and, you know, started to
get involved with hockey Canada and the world

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junior eight challenge. That really expanded
my horizons and and really, first of

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all made me understand how much I
had to learn, how much more is

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out there, how much the game
had changed even from Um, you know,

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myself playing just, you know,
five years, five, ten years

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prior to that. Um. So
I got started to really expand my own

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knowledge and started to really work at
getting better. And then, you know,

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that led ultimately to some couple of
interviews along the way with different teams,

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but ultimately Kyle duas calling in Susain
Marie, Um, you know,

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and one was looking to make a
coaching change and the discussion with him that

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led to me going to join the
greyhounds and and then, of course that's

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taking me along the way to the
Toronto Marley's and now now the leaves.

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So all of that really has begun
in Penbrooke and for those reasons, certainly

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in a place will never forget.
Yeah, you segued US right into the

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next question. Pretty good there.
I was just about to ask. Is

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that when you made the transition to
the HL and is that where your relationship

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with Kyle Dubas began? Yeah,
yeah, indeed. Um, I hadn't

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known kyle to that point other than
a couple of really sort of casual discussions

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that we had had at the time. He was an agent actually before he

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became the general manager and Smurney,
or it was a player advisor, I

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guess you would call it, and
I was trying to recruit a couple of

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his players that he was repped presenting, but other than that I had no

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relationship with him at all. But
you know, he was, I guess,

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doing his due diligence and I know, I'm sure it was called around

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speaking to, you know, countless
other coaches. But you know, I

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just got he had called out of
the blue, and mid season, of

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course, which again with our big
operation like hours and the fact that I

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was president, General Manager, head
coach. You know, you're running,

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we're running the concessions there, you're
helding your handling equipment and everything from laundry

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to French fries and coffee. I
mean you're doing it. Um. It

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was a big, big ask to
to leave mid season. Um, but

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first I didn't know if it was
going to really materialize into anything other than

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some discussions that certainly were worthwhile for
me to have, and I let him

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offer me the position and once that
became real, start to think about how

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could we maybe make this possible and
could happen and and again. Ah,

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the people of pembrook stepping up and
Um, you know whether it was Scott

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Malmes or whether vissistant coach at the
time, and you know, becoming the

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head coach of the team and running
the team and you know some of our

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our volunteer base really stepping up to
take on more load. And and then,

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you know, Kyle do this is
understanding that I was going to still

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have some duties and things that I
would have to do from afar to manage

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the team and help with player transactions
and different things. And on some days

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off we had arrange where I would
I would take some trips back to pembroke

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periodically to try to help and get
some things organized. So there's a lot

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of compromise all the way through that
helps support the decision to take that opportunity

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and again just forever grateful for all
the people that helped make that happen.

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Yeah, so I got a question
here. We we had to pull in

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a favor from a friend. I
fear it may have already been answered,

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and a friend is a loose term, but we got the chance to meet.

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You probably recognize me if you heard
of the spitting chickless podcast. We

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ran into businessty at an event sheldon
here. What was your favorite part about

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coaching junior off? So that's just
we wanted to get something in from him

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while we had the chance. That's
a that's a softball question from from business.

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Wasn't back nine. He wasn't able
to think up one on the spot.

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I had to. I had to
throw him a bone, just something

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bag that he could, you know, get out. Yeah, well,

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that's uh, that's great. Well, I I've touched on a bunch of

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I mean it's it's really interesting in
Co coaching in the OHL and in my

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first game, both first home game, first road game, you know,

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and bigger arenas and all those kind
of things and bigger and bigger crowds and

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coaching. I mean the talent,
talent that's in the lhl is is significant

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and impressive. So those really stand
out. But there's no, nothing better

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than winning the National Championship with the
lumber kings to the you know, on

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that made two thousand eleven that we
were talking about there. Um, that

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was we're cameras Alberta and we played
the the Vernon Vipers in the final game

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and they were I mean they had
dominated the tournament and now we was just

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one of those nights which seemed to
be, you know, our night and

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we're destined to win. Our goaltender, Francis, that we had had a

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performance of the ages and kept the
score close. Zero, zero, and

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norm milly is blocked a shot.
Excuse me, I said normally, but

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Um, you know mill as a
guy used to play against but it was

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Jonathan that was this, that that
we and he blocked a shot with it

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on a breakaway and scored late,
about five minutes left, and put us

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up one nothing. Matthew Becke,
who ended up when Stanley being a draft

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00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:11.720
pick of the Tampa Bay lightnings,
you know, sealed the deal with an

411
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:15.200
empty net, which is me a
face off win with the empty net.

412
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.960
And Uh, you know, we
sealed the deal from there again. Um,

413
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:22.039
I think milly actually went on into
the empty net as well. So

414
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:29.440
that was an incredible feeling, an
accomplishment, not just for me personally but

415
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:33.119
all the people involved, all the
way back to the lumber kings who,

416
00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:36.960
Um, in the community in Pembroke, who I mean? That game was

417
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:41.799
broadcast on tsn live, so that
in itself, you know, on the

418
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:47.200
national stage you getting the Community of
Pembroke and lumber kings crown in the jerseys

419
00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:51.839
and you know everything that that's represented
with the crown. To be on the

420
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:56.440
national stage where people to of pembroke
to be able to see their community being

421
00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:00.039
represented on the national stage was a
special thing and to win it was a

422
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.359
national title of the Lumber Kings had
ever won and there had been a number

423
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:07.319
of people uh in the community as
long as I had been there had had

424
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.799
reminded me a lot that the Lubber
kings have had a number of great teams

425
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:17.319
along over the years so along the
way but had never won the national championship

426
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:21.119
and that was the ultimate prize,
the ultimate goals of bills that deliver that

427
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:25.200
to that community and come back to
a parade and all those things. It

428
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:30.960
was an incredible time and that certainly
you know that. In Our calder tough

429
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:36.000
championship with the Marley's Toronto certainly stand
out, but as junior hockey goals doesn't

430
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:40.519
get any better than that big time. Haven't been to the nationalist year.

431
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:44.240
It would have been pretty crazy to
come back and the whole town going crazy

432
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:47.599
just leaving there. We had people
line up just to wave at the bus

433
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:51.240
leaving. It's a it's a big
deal for those communities. Yeah, yeah,

434
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:55.720
absolutely. So. Shall we move
over to the leaves? Or there's

435
00:30:55.720 --> 00:31:00.400
a question here matching up against Connor
mcdavid as an HL coach. Whenever you're

436
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:03.559
new to the coaching game, we'll
not super new, but you know you're

437
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:10.000
making your way up. So what's
the what's the game plan in junior matching

438
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:11.160
up against that guy, let alone, you know, the Big League?

439
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:19.839
Yeah, it was not fun.
You know, there there's there's a few

440
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:23.640
players out there, but certainly none
of his class though that you know,

441
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:29.119
that seems like you could plan as
much as you want and you can do

442
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:33.880
everything almost perfect or or or,
you know, Damn, damn o perfect,

443
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:38.720
but you can't. You still can't
stop certain players. Um, he

444
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:42.160
is certainly one of those. You
do everything you can to manage it,

445
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:48.839
but it's a lot of sleepless nights, frankly, uh, trying to trying

446
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:53.359
to plan and trying to figure it
out, you know, but yeah,

447
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:56.759
he you know, as a turnout, we we ended up playing here two

448
00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:02.079
years, two years in a row
in the playoffs, but it was the

449
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:06.720
second year we had a really strong
team and played them in the conference finals

450
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:12.039
and nothing pretty certain that was the
year he ended up going first overall after

451
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:16.559
uh, was draft year. Um, so this is his, you know,

452
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:21.799
his prime in junior and it was
really difficult. We actually, as

453
00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:23.880
it turned out, we did.
We did do a pretty good job in

454
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:29.880
that series at five on five and
Darnell lurse, as it turns out,

455
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:35.319
his his his teammate now and you
know they're they're best buddies and all that.

456
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.359
DARNEL LURS was matched up against him
head to head at five on five.

457
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:40.799
And then our team. I thought
that a pretty good job at five

458
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:45.440
and five. But the moment he
took players off the ice, whether we

459
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:47.720
our play and now he was shorthanded, or if they're on the power play

460
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.359
we're short, or four on four. The moment that happened and things changed

461
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:55.440
a little bit, Um and he
had a Lectra space, a lecture time

462
00:32:55.480 --> 00:33:00.319
and it was it was game over. So he killed us a suchial teams

463
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:05.599
there. But Um, you know, he's obviously an exceptional, exceptional player

464
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:09.960
and uh, you know, it's
just so great for the sport hockey to

465
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:14.039
have a player of that caliber.
Um, that brings in so many fans,

466
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:16.079
so many great moments. But on
the coaching side of it. It's

467
00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:21.000
it's not nearly as fun. Yeah, draft here, mcdavid. That'd be

468
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:23.960
a pretty pretty scary guy to be
going up against, especially when he's doing

469
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:28.599
stuff that you've never seen anyone do
before. At that time I'd say,

470
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:31.279
yeah, well, it's just the
pace, I mean the some of the

471
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:36.000
things that he and he does are, you know, you know, they're

472
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:44.119
they're not too too crazy or anything, not too flashy. It's done that

473
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:51.559
not many players can you can handle. Um, there's Goali systems, scultures,

474
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:54.440
coaches, no matter what it is. It's uh, it's tough to

475
00:33:54.440 --> 00:34:00.240
spot to stop, and that's why
he is who he is. We amend

476
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:05.519
your efforts. Yeah, not nearly
good enough, although although, Um,

477
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:08.880
you know, we I think.
And after that, I think they every

478
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:12.760
team after they beat US ended up, you know, facing the Oshwa generals

479
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.480
in the final, and Oshwa did
a great job against him. Ended up

480
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:19.679
beating them actually in the in the
final. There D J Smith was coaching

481
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:24.119
that team, Um, and they
had an incredible team in Oshawa as well,

482
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:30.880
big, strong, tough as and
played very hard and Um, very

483
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:34.239
well structured. And then they ended
up, but they end up beating them

484
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:38.360
in the finals. So that was
a great accomplishment by them and I talked

485
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:40.880
to t j a lot about that
as DJ the next year ended up coaching

486
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:45.000
in Toronto. Um, you know, uh, they have done a good

487
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:52.239
job against him there. And you
know, we kind of the three teams,

488
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:57.239
Oshawa, ourselves and arena at the
top of the League all and uh,

489
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.320
you know, they they found the
way to get it done. But

490
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:05.239
yeah, that was that was a
crazy time. It was a good series.

491
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:08.719
We ended up losing six games and
uh, to t your ead there

492
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:13.760
and it was a good series.
But I think we actually had some injuries

493
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.360
in there too. Anthony de Angelo
was it was averaging two points of games,

494
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:20.519
that defenseman for us, got injured
and getting one of that series and

495
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:24.280
tried to play through it, um, but didn't last for very long.

496
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:30.280
And and and he was a tremendous
loss for us. But UH, yeah,

497
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:32.360
lots of lots of memories through that, through that series, for sure,

498
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:35.679
and it starved me very well.
As the coaches. I moved from

499
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:42.679
there to to proocup with the Marley's. Yeah, and your your moved to

500
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:45.960
the leaves. You had a pretty
big mantle to take up there, taking

501
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:52.039
the job off of Mike Babcock.
What's it like taking over after such a

502
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:55.760
coach with such a long list of
accolades and accomplishments over his career as a

503
00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:02.960
rookie NHL coach as well? Yeah, well, I mean it's certainly well,

504
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:06.519
first of all, I was unexpected. You know, I was coaching

505
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:10.559
in under under bats with the Marley's
and and Mike had done an incredible job

506
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:15.440
of involving me and everything that they
were doing in the organization and you know,

507
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:19.960
he recognized early my role in developing
players, you know, for his

508
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.760
team. You know, I look
at the team that I started with him

509
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:24.480
my first year with the Marley's.
We had, you know, the players

510
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:29.159
we had on that team. You
know, William N Lander, Sparry Kaptain,

511
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:34.000
Zach him and Connor Brown, h
Josh Levi was on that team,

512
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:37.760
you know, and I'm sure I'm
missing some, but there was a number

513
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:42.679
of players that were destined to be
leas and because of, you know,

514
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:47.360
my role in developing those players,
Mike did a tremendous job of involving me,

515
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:52.400
having me around the NHL team through
the summer for the off season,

516
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:58.400
through training camp and in preseason and
really giving me free access, whenever time

517
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:00.559
allowed during the regular season, to
be down and be a part of their

518
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:06.960
operation help when asked. Tom Would
really just take it all in and see

519
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:10.599
how, you know, a world
class coach like Mike operated. Um and

520
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:16.000
through that, through my time with
the Marley's, never never expected that,

521
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:20.079
you know, my next opportunity would
come in Toronto. I always felt that

522
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:23.880
I was going to have to come
in another organization. And and then was

523
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:29.199
really enjoying my time, you know, being with the Marley's and UH talked

524
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:31.719
about my connection and P I.
But of course I grew up in Branton

525
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:37.360
as my my both my parents ended
up moving to to the Toronto area,

526
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:40.960
Um, you know, before I
was born, but I grew up in

527
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:45.320
this area. So a chance to
come home and raise my family here was

528
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:50.960
was it was a great opportunity and
a rare one for somebody in my business,

529
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:55.159
in hockey business. But uh,
I thought that I had to go

530
00:37:55.199 --> 00:38:00.639
elsewhere for my opportunity. But,
you know, I want didn't get another.

531
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:04.679
You get a call from Kyle and
he's thinking of making a change and

532
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:13.440
that includes you. You're excited about
that Opportunity, Um, and uh you

533
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:17.599
know, I I had felt prepared
for the opportunity and because of how babs

534
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:22.400
gave me the chance to be so
ingering what was happening and the fact that

535
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:27.480
I had coached so many players that
were making up the NHL team. Uh,

536
00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:32.000
as difficult as it is to take
over any team mid season, it

537
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:37.559
was a lot easier for me given
that I had I had relationships with a

538
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:40.760
lot of players, a lot of
the training and equipment and support staff.

539
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:47.800
That's a rare thing to go into
a new, new team, but Mike

540
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:52.920
Wes trevendous and how he handled me
and my development with the HL staff.

541
00:38:54.079 --> 00:39:00.000
So Uh, you know, to
get that chance to step into that role

542
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:05.000
was unexpected. Yet I felt prepared
for it and knew I had big shoes

543
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:09.599
to fill. Um, you know
what the players were and have been,

544
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:15.679
uh catting continue to be excellent in
terms of, you know, uh accepting

545
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:21.119
the change and getting to work and
staying focused on what they can control and

546
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:24.039
all those kind of things. So
it's been it's been a strange ride to

547
00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:28.079
this point and when we went through
with covid and all those kind of things,

548
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:31.480
and still have been to how to
feel the real, true NHL and

549
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:36.079
through NHL Seasons we had again in
the last season we saw shutdowns. You're

550
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:38.920
still wearing masks on the bench and
there's a lot of things happening. Of

551
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:43.280
course we've been through a crazy time
here in the world. But Um,

552
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:46.960
yeah, my time spent in the
NHL, no matter what the circumstances have

553
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:52.280
been, is, has been,
uh, exceptional. Um, you know,

554
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:55.960
not without its its battles and uh, it's adversity along the way as

555
00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:00.079
we continue to find a way to
climb this mountain. But uh, you

556
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:05.400
know, I can't say enough of
about how the map police organization operates now

557
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:10.480
I've been treated and how the players
haven't have embraced my coaching. Wow,

558
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:15.840
yeah, that was a sick answer. It um not your first time.

559
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:19.880
We don't want to take up your
whole day. So we really appreciate you

560
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:22.840
coming on. We'll be watching throughout
the season for sure. Best of luck.

561
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:28.199
Leaves to the top baby, you
love it. Alright, guess it's

562
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:30.679
been a pleasure chatting with you.
I wish you guys on them with the

563
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:35.639
best. Uh, you're pursuing things
here and u doing a great job.

564
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:38.800
It's great to be able to spend
some time with you, Um and uh,

565
00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:43.599
you know, enjoy your enjoy winters
back on the island. You know,

566
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:45.679
that's actually one thing I have yet. I haven't experienced as winter on

567
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:49.679
the island. So I don't know, I have to maybe. What do

568
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:52.199
you think? Should I take that
in at some point? Keep that off

569
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:54.000
your bucket list? Yeah, you
got a good thing going right now.

570
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:58.039
You don't need to mess it up. The summer sounds good, summer sound

571
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:06.519
yeah, all right, all right, right, all right. Well,

572
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:09.159
that was that was Sheldon Kief,
head coach of the Toronto Maple leaves.

573
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:13.039
We were pretty fired up to get
that guy on. That was huge.

574
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:15.920
We've been waiting all summer to get
with him. So yeah, we've been.

575
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:19.199
We've been texting him. There was
the draft came up and then he

576
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:22.320
had development camp and then there was
his leaves training camp. Really cool to

577
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:27.239
get his insight. No, his
junior hockey days and even playing with like

578
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:30.119
Brad Richards, viny thecavier and the
boys. I wanted to ask him like

579
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:36.599
what it's like looking over when you're
playing the halves and you see midget already,

580
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:39.239
but I didn't have the guts to
bring it up. Also wanted to

581
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:43.719
say, like if you ever needed
like an away team, leafs Heckler,

582
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:47.400
like fly me into TV stadium or
TD ARENA and I'll just blast the Bruins

583
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:51.239
for you. I was gonna bring
that up. Think that would probably fly.

584
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:53.280
But next time. Next time they're
gonna they're gonna listen to it.

585
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:58.000
They might reach out with the job
offer or something that we had. If

586
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:00.800
you're wondering why we had to steer
away from the lead questions, there was

587
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:05.400
a pretty strict lines that we had
to stick within. We had to send

588
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:08.360
off our question list to the media
team in Toronto. It was a bit

589
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:12.239
of a it was a bit of
an ordeal, but you do what you

590
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:15.320
gotta do to get Shelton keep on
them. We got that. Taking the

591
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:19.079
job from Babcock question at the end's
huge. I love his answer. So

592
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:22.159
sick, not even the least fan, but I'm getting me fired off for

593
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:28.519
the season. Least of the moon
baby rich didn't want to sacrifice the perfect

594
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:34.079
record of the table buzz boost on
the on the maple least. Probably won't

595
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:38.840
use you this time, but we
have supposedly we have two big guests joined

596
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:44.559
us next week. Supposedly. Now, if it actually works out. We

597
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:47.599
hope it does. Two huge guests, our biggest pod yet. We already

598
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:52.400
had one of the mom it was
our biggest pod yet, so things are

599
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:57.840
looking up here. That was a
pretty huge and we're going home. We're

600
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:00.599
also heading home in like a couple
of days. So you're witnessing like our

601
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:05.599
last like forty eight hours. Not
Not Forty Eight, but last like seventy

602
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:09.440
two hours in the six Um.
We had a great summer. What have

603
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:13.159
you been up to this week?
We went to Monday night raw. Yeah,

604
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:15.880
we went to W W E this
week. Any C any, the

605
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:21.000
big Canadian National Exhibition. Blows pies
exhibition out of the water, by the

606
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:22.960
way, in cash you're wondering,
freak out. Different names start. Answer

607
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:29.679
goes all the way around. But
yeah, good time. We went to

608
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:32.559
a comedy club. We went to
watch family feud live. We were a

609
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:38.360
live audience for family. We were
last we've just been and we went up

610
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:43.840
to see entire the other day.
That's not as crazy, but watching family

611
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:47.239
feud in person, Jerry d the
Man just working absolutely. Like I said

612
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:51.719
to I said to Josh after,
I was like, I'm pretty sure Jerry

613
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:54.320
D is like my top three guests
that I could ever get this podcast.

614
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:59.760
He is such a legend. You'll
be like they're just playing like club music

615
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:05.199
for much while he's announcing his show
or like in between, and like you

616
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:07.639
can tell when the guy just he's
not bopping with the song. He's just

617
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:12.320
like this, like when do I
go home? And then like there's some

618
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:15.719
tunes where he comes on. He's
like just it's hilarious. He's just like

619
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:20.599
this, literally looking. He's just
like going like that. Just wait and

620
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:24.920
say like welcome to family feud Canada, like Oh man. And when they

621
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:29.480
do the lightning round, it's him
just like standing next to him random contestants

622
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:34.039
and the contestants like jamming out to
something like nineties rap, and Jerry's just

623
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:37.800
like just waiting for these like can
we get the fucking show on the road

624
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:42.360
here? They say before they're like
they give you a little tour or training

625
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:45.320
session of like when to clap and
stuff, and they're like when there's a

626
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:49.280
bad answer, like Jerry loves bad
answers, like he's just gonna Chirp them

627
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:51.320
and stuff. So I was like, Damn, this is gonna be sick.

628
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:53.360
He didn't get to Chirp too much
because, like none of the answers

629
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:57.599
weren't like, but he did have
some solid one liners in there, like

630
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:04.159
a big time yeah, and even
like he'll just be talking and then he

631
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:07.199
knows whenever what he's saying isn't going
to be included in the show. Like

632
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:12.119
they went off on some tangent about
like drugs, because they said they like

633
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:15.719
music festivals or something, and then
they were talking about ecstasy, and then

634
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:17.280
he just looks at the live audience
and he's like, we're gonna cut all

635
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:21.679
of this, but don't worry,
like this is a lot, and then

636
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:23.880
he goes to the next person.
And then they made like a joke about

637
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:27.000
what he was saying about the ecstasy, and he was like come on,

638
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:30.679
man, like now we can't use
this, like they don't know that we

639
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:35.960
were saying that he's random kids.
And if you were like, if you

640
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:37.719
see this, if you like Sheldon
Keith and you just wanted to watch an

641
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:42.519
interview and that you stuck around for
the boys, come on the Pod,

642
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:45.760
my dude, you're like a top
three guy. If not, we're going

643
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:51.960
to reveal who one episode whatever that
comes out and November, two and third

644
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:59.119
in the sands. They Josh tape
over his spenny watcher. There was like

645
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:01.119
one segment where he was like this
is your guys chance to get on TV.

646
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:05.920
And then this guy's like scanning the
whole crowd and literally like there's probably

647
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:07.760
like fifty people in this live audience. He walks up to me and rich

648
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:12.079
tells rich to turn his table his
hat backwards, and then he's like do

649
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:14.639
you have like a jacket or anything
to cover up your shirt? And I

650
00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:17.039
looked down and I'm like it doesn't
say l a king's like, if that's

651
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:20.719
what you're wondering, like trademark or
whatever. I was like this is or

652
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:22.199
I didn't say it, but like
this is our I should have just pulled

653
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.079
out, like I own the rights
of this. HAPP DUDE, like if

654
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:30.119
I'll sue you myself if you use
it. Yeah, like and then he

655
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:32.960
runs and grabs a tape and he
walked this roll on the tape and he

656
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:36.840
gives it to me and he was
like don't worry, it's removable tape and

657
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:38.519
I was like, oh good,
like tape that comes out, I've never

658
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:49.000
heard of. But the pernament,
purnament, Perma PERMA, permanent pernament.

659
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:55.159
What else was like you could tell
it was fake ship. But the slams

660
00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:59.719
are cool because it's like they're actually
just like slamming against that and, like

661
00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:01.079
I've see, they're trained to do
it in a way that it doesn't hurt,

662
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:04.679
but like all the punching and stuff
looks really, really bad. Well,

663
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.320
I wouldn't say that they're trained in
a way that it doesn't hurt,

664
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:09.559
like trained in a way that they're
not going to get seriously injured. Yeah,

665
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:13.119
pretty much. That's a better way
to wear, though I would say

666
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:15.639
they get pretty banged up. A
funny part of the W W was just

667
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:22.440
the people that go to you can
see like the beards down to here.

668
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:29.719
They're all like greasy hair, not
a like forget what they're like. Yeah,

669
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:31.480
we're sitting there and then all of
a sudden the whole crowd, I'll

670
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:37.639
just like all say the same thing
at once and we're like if you happens

671
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:42.880
that W W, they're all like
this is like they just like it's not

672
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:45.400
even like five people say it and
then like everyone joins in. It's all

673
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:50.400
like ten thousand people are just like
this is awesome. After this one like

674
00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:57.320
random move and they're all like dude, the spear man, like Holy Shit,

675
00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:02.599
Holy Shit, like the well,
at one point of the highlight matched

676
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:07.599
Canadian edge was fighting I don't know, priest, Damian priest. Priest goes

677
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:12.679
and gets chairs and I was like
Oh, like she's ready to get real,

678
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:16.480
and then they just don't really end
up getting used. People use them.

679
00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:19.719
He went to use it on him
at the end but then he got

680
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:24.199
punched in the balls by the chick. He didn't know. He went to

681
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:30.079
do to a guy that he beat
and then she was like no, but

682
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:34.280
edge got the dubbed Canadian W W
E legend who made his or came out

683
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:37.159
of retirement for that fight. In
case you don't know who edges. Like

684
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:40.960
case you don't know who edges,
I didn't know who edge. I didn't

685
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:46.239
know. And everyone's just like there
was almost a fight in the crowd,

686
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:51.760
like we're just watched and they all
like stand up and her yelling at someone.

687
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:53.639
We couldn't see him, and then
he said some ship back. I

688
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:55.800
thought I heard it go back to
where it came from. I don't know.

689
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:00.920
That's hear saying. And then this
guy with a cad M hat like

690
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:04.280
red t shirt, looks super red
and it just gets the Yank. It

691
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:08.199
would have been a one against eight
royal rumble smacks round. Yeah, rough

692
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:14.440
for that guy. Yeah, what
like the CNE last night, that job,

693
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:17.000
that ride that we went on that
goes all the way around. So

694
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:21.840
it goes like boom, just like
the freak out you would see, but

695
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:24.559
it goes three, six year ou
like. So he build it up and

696
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:30.239
then you're that was wild because like, if you just turn your head like

697
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:35.480
that, you're looking at the skyline
of Toronto while you're like upside down.

698
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:40.639
If you're ever in Toronto this time
around, this time, I think it's

699
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:46.119
like end of mid to end of
end of the summer. Sucks. I've

700
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:51.760
meant to ask Sheldon what if he's
been to see any there's all these questions

701
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:54.519
are written down and we just forgot. Sheldon had some pretty long answers and

702
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:58.079
we only had a short time for
him to pack them all in. So

703
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:00.559
we tried our best. Yeah,
we probably could have captain for a little

704
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:05.199
bit longer. I made the simple
mistake of dismissing him, but I'm just

705
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:07.679
trying to be a good guy.
I want the least to get the cups.

706
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:13.039
So he's he gotta go tell Matthews
to shoot like a thousand pucks a

707
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:15.760
day. He's just gotta go have
another kid. Man. That's the only

708
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:21.079
thing that that's what we're learning too
for two UM. I love it.

709
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:25.039
I love it. The last time
the summerside Western capitals won the national champions

710
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:30.920
against the captain had a kid.
So everyone always says like someone's got to

711
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:32.639
have a kid if you want to
get to the national championship, and I

712
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:38.360
guess it's true, but I guess
an when they got the child instead of

713
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:43.480
a twenty years captain. I don't
remember who it was, but I remember

714
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:45.960
them. Every legend, like all
these losing teams saying someone's gonna have a

715
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:52.360
kid and no one having a kid
and then it doesn't happen. Sucks.

716
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:54.800
Yeah, if you're gonna birth a
championship, you're ready to birth a child.

717
00:50:54.840 --> 00:51:00.559
I Guess Sheldon was awesome. Yeah, that was like that was pretty

718
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:05.440
cool. That was pretty cool.
Hopefully we get to like hopefully we can

719
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:07.960
text him sometime down the road and
be like yeah, you want to come

720
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:12.239
back on again? Like actually talk
about like yeah, if he like retires

721
00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:17.000
or know, or if you get
speaking of guests, while we're airing this

722
00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:21.960
O. P K Su Band's Dad
wants to come back on the pod.

723
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:24.119
Yeah, if you guys want Carl
to come back on the Pod, let

724
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:28.639
us know. Yeah, we already
going to have him on the pot anyway

725
00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:30.239
because he's a legend, but like
just let us know that you're going to

726
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:34.440
be happy about it. Yeah,
because he's sending us his book, apparently.

727
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:38.360
Yeah, he's got his second I
don't even know what you call it,

728
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:44.079
like a sequel life's book, a
book of his life, what he's

729
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:49.079
done, second installment or something ship, I don't even know. Um,

730
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:52.920
guests. Other than that, the
biggest guests, biggest fish in the see

731
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:55.039
for me right now, jared Y, my man, I've been going for

732
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:58.719
you. If we get jerreddy in
this pot, I might retire from the

733
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:06.119
whole podcast. So that would be
the peak. Having Mr d uh Um,

734
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:08.679
Mr d there. We're working on
guests. We're always working on guests.

735
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:14.599
I'm just spit on. I want
Jordan Romano onto off season. Yeah,

736
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:17.960
we need to land a Jay's guy, a top four North American major

737
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:22.440
sports athlete. Yeah, I only
have to wait like a week. Yeah,

738
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:25.960
next week probably, but we got
a coach on this week. So,

739
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.880
yeah, current coach, you know, getting chirped, but getting old

740
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:35.239
guys on the pod like Yeah,
this Guy's coaching the leaves. Get over

741
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:42.320
it. The youngest NHL coach probably
too, only forty one. The fact

742
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:45.559
that he played with Jason Spetzo.
I was gonna say, I was gonna

743
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:47.639
ask like a follow up to but
he carried on a little bit longer.

744
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:51.400
I was gonna say, like to
spenser ever, like bring that up,

745
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:58.039
because like I didn't. I didn't
know that. Spenser. Yeah, I

746
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:00.000
knew that spends. It was an
under eight. He's one of those guys

747
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:05.760
that got the underage status. But
then I didn't like factor that in as

748
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:09.679
and keep eighteen years old taking he's
like who wasn't this year in the show

749
00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:16.519
bunting? Oh my God, there
we go, like he knows how to

750
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:23.280
get that R no wonder button.
Chose Toronto, but awesome PODCASTS. Remember,

751
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:28.079
get your Merch we got more pods
coming, but get your merch like

752
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:32.400
that's gonna get yes. Also,
we got a big, like fourteen hour

753
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:36.480
road trip coming up in a couple
of days. So if you want to,

754
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:38.400
I don't know, we'll probably make
like a video out of the whole.

755
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:43.480
We'll profitely be live on instagram a
couple of times here in the road

756
00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:46.519
and stuff, check in with the
boys as we make our journey across Canada.

757
00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:50.800
I just thought about going live on
instagram. Well, that'd be pretty

758
00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:52.679
cool. We go live for like
thirty minutes or so, get some q

759
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:57.760
and a's going. We're not gonna
have any like free time or nothing.

760
00:53:57.880 --> 00:54:02.320
So, like you know, we're
gonna be so jam pack. Can't know

761
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:06.159
what that drive through New Brunswick is
like. Okay, help us out here.

762
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:08.320
I told Josh. I told Josh
I said the first thing I do

763
00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:12.760
when once we get across the bridge, we pull the car over. I

764
00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:15.760
get out of the car and I'm
hugging py soil. Yeah, we need

765
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:22.480
some of that red dirt. I'm
hugging P I soil like it'll be happy

766
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:25.960
to see you. Thanks again for
listening to our boys. Sheldon Keith,

767
00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:31.800
great new friend of the show.
Um, sorry we didn't extend the boost

768
00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:37.480
to you, but you you have
our boost in our hearts, so you

769
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:40.159
have our support. We just can't
put the reputation of the boost on the

770
00:54:40.199 --> 00:54:44.000
line when you know, you say
this is going to be the year.

771
00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:46.800
That's what they say, but I
don't think sheldon saying that. I think

772
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:51.519
sheldon was a great guest. fucking
a one dude, drafted four to seventh

773
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:54.000
overall of the Tampa Bay lightning.
Played with my friend Brad Richards. Go

774
00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:59.760
Boy, Sheldon, we love it. Hopefully we can get you on again,

775
00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:04.760
maybe be next summer or something.
Yeah, cheers. Until next time,

776
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:07.239
the merch this has been the buzz. Buzzn't