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Constitutional Amendment No. 7 authorizes the use of public funds
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to identify, inventory, remove, or replace certain water lines. When
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you hit Read More on the GoVote app, it says,
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Do you support an amendment to allow for the use
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of public funds by a political subdivision for the purpose
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of identifying, inventorying, removing, or replacing drinking water utility service lines?
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made of or affected by materials as specified or prescribed
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by the Lead and Copper Rule Improvements of the United
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States Environmental Protection Agency, promulgated on October 30th of 2024
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or subsequent promulgation, on property owned by utility customers. What
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does that mean? Well, we've got Anna Wynn on with
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us from the Water Collaborative. How are you, Anna?
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Good. Thank you for having me on, J.
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Brian. Glad to have you on. Glad to be talking
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about this because this is one where, like, you're on
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in Baton Rouge right now. And this is something where
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the entire state is going to vote for something that
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really only affects New Orleans. So walk us through how
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we got to having this amendment on our ballot to
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begin with and spell out what it actually does.
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Yeah, you know, this actually affects the entire state of Louisiana.
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We've done... water quality testing both in New Orleans, but
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we've also done it up and down the industrial corridors.
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So we've tested water also in St. John, St. James, Ascension.
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And we found that there is lead in the water
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when we test water. A lot of the materials that
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were used across Louisiana up until 1986 included hazardous materials.
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Such as lead.
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And it was legal to use that up until 1986.
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And so.
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You know, what we found is that both lead and
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other heavy metals can really negatively impact your health and
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your water quality. And so we have worked with Senator
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Royce DuPlessis to pass this bill to put this on
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the ballot. And this ballot will essentially allow for public
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funds that the federal government has available for municipalities like
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Baton Rouge, like New Orleans, to replace every service line.
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And so, you know, a lot of interpretation of the
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law right now is that you cannot use public funds
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on private property. But we have a lot of private
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property that was built up through 1986 and contains lead lines.
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And so in order to fully replace lead lines for
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people drinking water, we have to replace the lead lines
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on both public property and private property. So this constitutional
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amendment allows us to use public funds to do just that.
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Okay, so there's a couple different things I want to
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break down from there, but is there not a pool
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of money set to be spent in New Orleans already
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that just needs to go ahead from this amendment in
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order to be spent?
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There is, but this also opens it up so that
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the entire state can use money to both identify hazardous
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drinking lines, create inventories. Okay. While it does affect New
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Orleans and there is a pool of money for New Orleans,
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there is also money available that other parts of the
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state can also pursue to do this work as well.
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And that's why I framed it the way I did
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because New Orleans has the most to lose if this
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fails because there's money sitting right there just ready for
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the taking.
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Yeah, that's accurate.
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Yeah. Let's talk a little bit about the difference between
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a private line and a public line right here, because
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a lot of the folks who would philosophically disagree with
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the idea that, you know, using public funds, replacing this,
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shouldn't your own municipalities be building out safer or the
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ability to, you know, redo your own water systems along
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the way. This isn't about the water system leading up
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to the property. This is about the people once it
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gets to their property line.
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Yeah, that's accurate. You know, I mean, The infrastructure that
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we have in place was put in place by government.
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And so a lot of homeowners can't afford to replace
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the private service lines, which can really cost thousands of dollars.
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And so voting yes allows for communities to pursue funding
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that can help reduce or eliminate those costs when replacement
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programs become available.
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What has been your experience thus far with getting the
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messaging out on this statewide?
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We've heard some very positive messaging. What we're emphasizing is
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that this doesn't force homeowners to replace their pipes. It
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also doesn't create a new tax. It really just allows
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for municipalities like New Orleans, like Baton Rouge, to tap
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into funding that, if and when becomes available, is used
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to helpfully replace those lead service lines so that everyone
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has access to clean drinking water. Our health is really non-negotiable,
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and safe water is essential.
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We're talking with Anna Nguyen from the Water Collaborative about
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Amendment 7 on your ballot. Talking about this, and I'm
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going to stick to a New Orleans perspective because it's
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kind of the genesis of it. I mean, this was
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Royce DuPlessis' bill to begin with, so it started within
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the city right there. How widespread is it in New
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Orleans that this is needed? I mean, is it a
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matter of testing each individual line along the way? Yeah.
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So, I mean, New Orleans is a really old city,
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just like a lot of cities in Louisiana. When we tested...
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residential drinking water in 2024, we found water, I'm sorry,
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we found lead in nearly 90% of homes tested in
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Orleans Parish, which is really underscoring the need that we
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need to address our aging drinking water infrastructure.
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When, okay, walk down the path with me of this being,
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you know, like, let's say it gets approved next Tuesday.
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Let's assume that Amendment No. 7 passes. What does that
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look like mapping out for how long people can get
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to addressing their individual problems?
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Yeah, that really depends on each municipality's ability to tap
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into the federal funding that's available to do this work.
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You know, New Orleans has $ 150 million that's ready to
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go as soon as we can get a yes vote
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on this constitutional amendment. But it costs somewhere upwards of
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billions of dollars to replace the entire infrastructure needed in
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New Orleans. And so while this is a good start,
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we want to make sure that we have every tool
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in the toolbox for local governments and water systems to
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modernize aging infrastructure.
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I'm going to re-ask the question because you kind of
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answered it, but kind of like it wasn't phrased right.
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How far can $ 150 million go to take out the
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problem in New Orleans?
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I think we'll get far enough in identifying the lead
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lines and testing a lot of the different homes. But
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we need to get creative in terms of replacing them
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or removing them. Absolutely.
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When it comes to other municipalities that could be involved
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in this, what processes should they be going through right
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now to make sure that the next round of money
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would be available?
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Yeah, I would say that if your local water utility
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offers lead testing kits, that's a great way to just
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test your water and get the results and just first
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off know what's in your water and to be informed.
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And then from there, if you do detect lead in
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the water, A lot of municipalities are taking short-term actions
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like offering filters for people to use so that they
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can still drink water from their faucet.
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She is Anna Nguyen with The Water Collaborative. Appreciate a
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couple minutes this morning. Thank you so much.
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Yeah, thank you again for having me.
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Constitutional Amendment No. 7 authorizes the use of public funds
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to identify, inventory, remove, or replace certain water lines. When
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you hit Read More on the GoVote app, it says,
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Do you support an amendment to allow for the use
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of public funds by a political subdivision for the purpose
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of identifying, inventorying, removing, or replacing drinking water utility service lines?
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made of or affected by materials as specified or prescribed
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by the Lead and Copper Rule Improvements of the United
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States Environmental Protection Agency, promulgated on October 30th of 2024
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or subsequent promulgation, on property owned by utility customers. What
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does that mean? Well, we've got Anna Wynn on with
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us from the Water Collaborative. How are you, Anna?
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Good. Thank you for having me on, J.
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Brian. Glad to have you on. Glad to be talking
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about this because this is one where, like, you're on
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in Baton Rouge right now. And this is something where
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the entire state is going to vote for something that
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really only affects New Orleans. So walk us through how
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we got to having this amendment on our ballot to
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begin with and spell out what it actually does.
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Yeah, you know, this actually affects the entire state of Louisiana.
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We've done... water quality testing both in New Orleans, but
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we've also done it up and down the industrial corridors.
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So we've tested water also in St. John, St. James, Ascension.
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And we found that there is lead in the water
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when we test water. A lot of the materials that
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were used across Louisiana up until 1986 included hazardous materials.
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Such as lead.
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And it was legal to use that up until 1986.
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And so.
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You know, what we found is that both lead and
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other heavy metals can really negatively impact your health and
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your water quality. And so we have worked with Senator
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Royce DuPlessis to pass this bill to put this on
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the ballot. And this ballot will essentially allow for public
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funds that the federal government has available for municipalities like
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Baton Rouge, like New Orleans, to replace every service line.
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And so, you know, a lot of interpretation of the
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law right now is that you cannot use public funds
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on private property. But we have a lot of private
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property that was built up through 1986 and contains lead lines.
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And so in order to fully replace lead lines for
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people drinking water, we have to replace the lead lines
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on both public property and private property. So this constitutional
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amendment allows us to use public funds to do just that.
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Okay, so there's a couple different things I want to
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break down from there, but is there not a pool
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of money set to be spent in New Orleans already
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that just needs to go ahead from this amendment in
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order to be spent?
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There is, but this also opens it up so that
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the entire state can use money to both identify hazardous
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drinking lines, create inventories. Okay. While it does affect New
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Orleans and there is a pool of money for New Orleans,
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there is also money available that other parts of the
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state can also pursue to do this work as well.
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And that's why I framed it the way I did
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because New Orleans has the most to lose if this
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fails because there's money sitting right there just ready for
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the taking.
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Yeah, that's accurate.
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Yeah. Let's talk a little bit about the difference between
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a private line and a public line right here, because
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a lot of the folks who would philosophically disagree with
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the idea that, you know, using public funds, replacing this,
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shouldn't your own municipalities be building out safer or the
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ability to, you know, redo your own water systems along
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the way. This isn't about the water system leading up
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to the property. This is about the people once it
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gets to their property line.
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Yeah, that's accurate. You know, I mean, The infrastructure that
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we have in place was put in place by government.
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And so a lot of homeowners can't afford to replace
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the private service lines, which can really cost thousands of dollars.
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And so voting yes allows for communities to pursue funding
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that can help reduce or eliminate those costs when replacement
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programs become available.
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What has been your experience thus far with getting the
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messaging out on this statewide?
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We've heard some very positive messaging. What we're emphasizing is
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that this doesn't force homeowners to replace their pipes. It
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also doesn't create a new tax. It really just allows
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for municipalities like New Orleans, like Baton Rouge, to tap
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into funding that, if and when becomes available, is used
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to helpfully replace those lead service lines so that everyone
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has access to clean drinking water. Our health is really non-negotiable,
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and safe water is essential.
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We're talking with Anna Nguyen from the Water Collaborative about
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Amendment 7 on your ballot. Talking about this, and I'm
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going to stick to a New Orleans perspective because it's
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kind of the genesis of it. I mean, this was
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Royce DuPlessis' bill to begin with, so it started within
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the city right there. How widespread is it in New
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Orleans that this is needed? I mean, is it a
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matter of testing each individual line along the way? Yeah.
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So, I mean, New Orleans is a really old city,
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just like a lot of cities in Louisiana. When we tested...
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residential drinking water in 2024, we found water, I'm sorry,
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we found lead in nearly 90% of homes tested in
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Orleans Parish, which is really underscoring the need that we
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need to address our aging drinking water infrastructure.
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When, okay, walk down the path with me of this being,
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you know, like, let's say it gets approved next Tuesday.
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Let's assume that Amendment No. 7 passes. What does that
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look like mapping out for how long people can get
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to addressing their individual problems?
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Yeah, that really depends on each municipality's ability to tap
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into the federal funding that's available to do this work.
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You know, New Orleans has $ 150 million that's ready to
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go as soon as we can get a yes vote
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on this constitutional amendment. But it costs somewhere upwards of
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billions of dollars to replace the entire infrastructure needed in
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New Orleans. And so while this is a good start,
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we want to make sure that we have every tool
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in the toolbox for local governments and water systems to
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modernize aging infrastructure.
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I'm going to re-ask the question because you kind of
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answered it, but kind of like it wasn't phrased right.
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How far can $ 150 million go to take out the
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problem in New Orleans?
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I think we'll get far enough in identifying the lead
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lines and testing a lot of the different homes. But
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we need to get creative in terms of replacing them
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or removing them. Absolutely.
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When it comes to other municipalities that could be involved
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in this, what processes should they be going through right
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now to make sure that the next round of money
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would be available?
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Yeah, I would say that if your local water utility
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offers lead testing kits, that's a great way to just
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test your water and get the results and just first
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off know what's in your water and to be informed.
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And then from there, if you do detect lead in
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the water, A lot of municipalities are taking short-term actions
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like offering filters for people to use so that they
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can still drink water from their faucet.
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She is Anna Nguyen with The Water Collaborative. Appreciate a
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couple minutes this morning. Thank you so much.
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Yeah, thank you again for having me.