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This is doctor Andrew Hahn, and this is episode forty
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one of the podcast Guided Self Healing, Fearless Living, and
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today's date for me is March thirty first, twenty two.
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So again I want to invite you just to if
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you're listening to this podcast and you're not driving in
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a car, just take a few deep breasts. Even if
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you are driving in a car, take a few deep breaths.
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If you're not driving in a car, you may just
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want to really pause and shift in the center and
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just bring your attention really here for the time we're together,
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and this podcast I could be a little bit shorter,
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and we're going to continue on our journey of the
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One Hour Miracle, which for me on March thirty first.
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It's very exciting because the publication date is actually on
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April fifth, so it's less than a week away, and
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it's very exciting for us. And if you haven't bought
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the book, it's called The One Hour Miracle, And just
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remember that miracles really are not just about the literal
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meaning in the Bible of something that's seemingly beyond anything rational,
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but it's really about gaining freedom from your suffering. And
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every time you do anything to gain freedom from your suffering.
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It's a little miracle. And sometimes the miracles actually look
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like miracles because very dramatic things happen, and sometimes they
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don't look quite so dramatically miraculous, but their miracles nonetheless.
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So we're up to chapter five of the book, and
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chapter five is about trauma and protection and why is
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it important to know that sometimes your problems are the
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reliving of a trauma, and sometimes your problems are the
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reliving of the way you protect yourself from making sure
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the trauma never happens again, even if it limits you
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a lot, because symptoms can be either end or both.
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So let's look at some examples and we'll know why
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it's different. But the real reason, the big picture difference
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is if you're reliving a trauma, essentially, what you need
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to do is find the being who's traumatized in that
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moment which will be a discomfort, and let them share
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their story. And then they may say that they need
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something more than just sharing their story, at which point
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you provide for them whatever it is that they need.
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But let's suppose you're non reliving the trauma, but the
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way you're protecting yourself from ever experiencing it again because
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you're afraid to ever experience it again. Then you're really
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what you're going to find when you find the sensation
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is not the traumatized one, but the choice that the
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traumatized one made to protect themselves. It will feel like
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a kind of protection or an armor or a dense
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energy to make sure that they never experience it again.
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And in that case, the key is not just finding
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the trauma and choosing to relive it while you bear
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witness and hold that person. It's to help that person
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realize that they made a choice and that they can
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now make a different choice because they don't have to
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worry anymore about reliving the trauma because we may have
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already taken care of the trauma, or because it's no
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longer relevant. So when life calls for us to handle
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the protection and the protector and the one who's choosing
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the protection, you do a very different process. So what's
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the difference again in the first case, Let's be really
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clear about this. If you have a trauma and you're
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living the trauma, when you focus on the suffering that
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will be associated with the symptoms that are an outgrowth
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of the trauma, you'll feel a discomfort in your body,
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and when you feel the discomfort, you'll say discomfort. You
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teach us what did you come to share? Where are
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you're beginning, and what's happening, and it will share its story. If, however,
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you're in a situation where you're reliving the protection from
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the trauma, you'll feel that in the body, and really
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you can ask the same questions, what have you come
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to share, where's this beginning, what's happening? But what you'll
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find out is that you'll get a story where the
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person is going to say, I am making sure I
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never experience what happened to me again, and I'm choosing
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to limit myself so that I never went into that
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situation again. And of course, at that point, like I said,
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the key is to say, you don't have to still
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make that choice. That's something that happened in your past
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or in another lifetime even and it's no longer relevant,
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so you can make a different choice. Let's give you
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a couple of examples of what I'm talking about, which
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I'm going to make up off the top of my head.
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Let's suppose someone can't leave their house like and you know,
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whenever they get scared, they run into a dark closet. Well,
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let's suppose you're reliving a trauma. And let's suppose in
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another lifetime you were thrown into a well and you've
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died in the bottom of the well. Well, there'd be
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a lot of a fear associated with that, and there
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would be a reliving in the trauma by when you
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when you're scared, you go into the closet, and you're
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actually reliving being thrown into the well. You're not living
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a protection. I know it's a funny example, but can
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I tell you sometimes funny things coming off the top
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of the head. But I think you get the idea.
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But let's take a different example. Let's suppose it's a
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beautiful sunny day and you're three years old in a car.
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You know, you have a ball and it goes out
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into the street and you run out into the street
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and you nearly get run over by a truck and
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you get totally scared, and you run into your house,
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wanting to get as far away from sunshine and balls
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and freedom and everything. And you run into the house
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and you hide in the closet. Right. Well, then you
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might come in and you might say, you know, it's
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really funny. But I notice that, and the people around
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me notice that I'm really you know, my agrophobia. When
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I start to tell you about hiding in the closet,
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I noticed that literally I hide in the closet, or figuratively,
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I hide in the closet when I want to be
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who I truly am. So I don't want to come
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out of the closet because if I am who I
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truly am, I might get annihilate. And of course that's
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why people stay in the closet if they're afraid. I mean,
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if you think literally when you say coming out of
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the closet, you know, if they say who I am
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is unacceptable. The best way to protect myself is to
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go into a closet where no one can get to me.
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So very different circumstances, obviously, or if we take the
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examples in the book, we had two examples of depression,
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and then one of them when the person found the
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depression which was to be weighed down, helpless, hopeless and
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they couldn't move. When they really found that story, they
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were in a story where the depression was that they
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were literally weighed down, helpless, hopeless, and they couldn't move
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because they were in the French Revolution and they were
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about to be guillotined, and in the story, they couldn't
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move anything except for their next So their depression was
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the reliving of the trauma. But in the second case,
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it wasn't the reliving or the trauma. It was reliving
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with protection. And in that story, of course what happened
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ro is very small boy wanted to give his father
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a very special present, and the father not only didn't
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receive the present, I pushed the boy away and left.
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And the boy hadn't even realized this, but he said,
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I can't. I have to not care about this. That
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was his internal experience. I have to deaden myself because
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it's too painful. So in that case, of course, the
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depression was the living over protection from the pain of
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having to deal with the fact that it was annihilating.
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It was overwhelming to have his father walk out on
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him when he had given him this gift. The feelings
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were too powerful, so we had to deaden them. And
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of course, if you deaden the feelings, that's what depression is.
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It's a kind of death. But really it was just
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too painful to experience the living experience of how much
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hurt there was. Or let's suppose you're constipated, right, Well,
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constipation could be only living in a story of being poisoned,
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at which point it would be the reliving of the story.
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And so you eat something a little bit off, and
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suddenly you have a horrific constipation because it's helping you
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remember a traumatic death and of a lifetime from being poisoned.
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But alternatively, let's suppose that you're a little child again,
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and you are in the car and with your father,
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and you need to go to the bathroom, and your
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father says hold it, and you can't hold it, so
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you soil yourself, and then your father yells at you
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for soiling yourself and not being able to hold it.
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And from then on, literally and figuratively, you say, I
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can never let myself go. I can never literally let
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myself go because it's associated with being humiliated in shame.
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So I'm going to have to hold everything back. I'm
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going to have to stay constipated, both physically and emotionally.
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But the constipation, of course, isn't the problem. It's the
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protection from the sense of if I really let go,
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I will be humiliated, and that's unacceptable. So I'm to
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try to give you certain examples of what we're talking about. Now.
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The reason this is important is we can always be
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grateful for any of our symptoms because they're trying to
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help us heal and grow. So even when we we're
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living a trauma, we could say, well, you've shown up
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in my life to try to help me master something.
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In that sense, we could be grateful that it's here
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to help us heal and grow. But it's not that
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we're being grateful because it's protecting us. We're just being
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grateful in the universal sense because everything can help us
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heal and grow. But let's take the second example and
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then the second example. Of course, we really are grateful
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for our symptoms because as they are protecting us at
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some cost to them. You know, it's like calling in
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a protector and it says, all right, I'll become dense
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and i'll protect you. I will cover over who you
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really are, because you can't be who you really are,
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it's too dangerous. So I'll become a dense energy and
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I will make sure that you get to hide and
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stay hidden behind that dense energy. So in that case,
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what we do is it's a very different experience when
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it tells you that that's what it is. And of
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course we can do what we can determine it if
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we know how to do that. But even if you don't,
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if you ask them it sounds like that, and say
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thank you so much, because constipation you protected me, or
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depression you protected me, and I don't need you anymore,
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So I'm going to Since I asked you to come in,
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I can choose to have you leave because I can
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witness you. Now I don't believe I am you anymore perspective,
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and I can choose to bring you outside of me
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and witness you from the outside, because from the point
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of view the witness you're already outside of me. I
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can notice you. That young man said as having wet,
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dense feeling of oatmeal in jest. Well, when we choose
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to bring our attention there, it's not who we are.
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It's just something that we can bear witness to it hold,
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and we can actually thank it and have it use
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our consciousness or our hands or whatever and bring it out,
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which is bringing out not only the protection but the
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person who, without awareness, was choosing to bring the protection in.
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And then of course what we can do is we
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can heal it by channeling light into it, and that heals.
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That transforms the protection into love and a kind of
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loving protection, and it heals the one who made the choice.
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And then of course what you'll find is you feel
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spacious inside because you just took out this dense energy
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and you could say, hidden waiting to be found was
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the truer self that was in hiding because it was
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unsafe to come out. And then we can invite it out.
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We find it in the body, We feel it in
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the body, We put our hands lovingly where it's been hell,
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and we say I want to come forward and touch
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my hand, and go forward and back and left and
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right until I become that truer self and it gets
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to keep all of its wonder and its authenticity, but
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it also gets to have all of the experiences you've
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ever had since then, so it's also gained discernment and wisdom.
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And then when the situation comes up again, you can say,
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I've already had that experience. I don't have to shut
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myself down. So distinctions between the reliving of trauma and
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reliving of the protection of trauma, and of course we'll
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talk about this in much more detail later, but just
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to get the general notion is really important. Having said that,
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I invite you, you know, to find any anything that
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you can find and to ask, you know, the sensation
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when you're doing your own healing work. Are you the
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traumatized one? Or are you the one who's protecting the
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traumatized one? And believe me, the sensation will tell you.
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And depending on what it tells you some note you
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will say it's both, at which point you get the
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traumatized one and the protector. And then if it's but
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if there's protection there, thank it. Bring it outside channel
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energy and you will take care of the protector and
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they'll take care of the one needed and you'll find
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you truly are to the great bet. I'll do it
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by the practice, but not if you're in the car,
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wait till you get home. Anyway, Having said that, Ah,
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you can always reach me. I hope you buy the book.
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It's called The One Hour Miracle. If you want to
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to me at Ah A H a h n at
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I wish you a good day, I wish you great healing,
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and I wish you freedom from suffer. Until I see
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This is doctor Andrew Hahn, and this is episode forty
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one of the podcast Guided Self Healing, Fearless Living, and
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today's date for me is March thirty first, twenty two.
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So again I want to invite you just to if
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you're listening to this podcast and you're not driving in
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a car, just take a few deep breasts. Even if
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you are driving in a car, take a few deep breaths.
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If you're not driving in a car, you may just
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want to really pause and shift in the center and
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just bring your attention really here for the time we're together,
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and this podcast I could be a little bit shorter,
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and we're going to continue on our journey of the
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One Hour Miracle, which for me on March thirty first.
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It's very exciting because the publication date is actually on
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April fifth, so it's less than a week away, and
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it's very exciting for us. And if you haven't bought
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the book, it's called The One Hour Miracle, And just
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remember that miracles really are not just about the literal
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meaning in the Bible of something that's seemingly beyond anything rational,
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but it's really about gaining freedom from your suffering. And
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every time you do anything to gain freedom from your suffering.
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It's a little miracle. And sometimes the miracles actually look
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like miracles because very dramatic things happen, and sometimes they
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don't look quite so dramatically miraculous, but their miracles nonetheless.
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So we're up to chapter five of the book, and
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chapter five is about trauma and protection and why is
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it important to know that sometimes your problems are the
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reliving of a trauma, and sometimes your problems are the
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reliving of the way you protect yourself from making sure
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the trauma never happens again, even if it limits you
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a lot, because symptoms can be either end or both.
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it's different. But the real reason, the big picture difference
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is if you're reliving a trauma, essentially, what you need
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to do is find the being who's traumatized in that
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moment which will be a discomfort, and let them share
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their story. And then they may say that they need
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something more than just sharing their story, at which point
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you provide for them whatever it is that they need.
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way you're protecting yourself from ever experiencing it again because
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you're afraid to ever experience it again. Then you're really
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what you're going to find when you find the sensation
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is not the traumatized one, but the choice that the
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traumatized one made to protect themselves. It will feel like
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a kind of protection or an armor or a dense
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energy to make sure that they never experience it again.
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the trauma and choosing to relive it while you bear
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witness and hold that person. It's to help that person
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realize that they made a choice and that they can
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now make a different choice because they don't have to
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worry anymore about reliving the trauma because we may have
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already taken care of the trauma, or because it's no
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longer relevant. So when life calls for us to handle
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the protection and the protector and the one who's choosing
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the protection, you do a very different process. So what's
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the difference again in the first case, Let's be really
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clear about this. If you have a trauma and you're
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living the trauma, when you focus on the suffering that
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will be associated with the symptoms that are an outgrowth
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of the trauma, you'll feel a discomfort in your body,
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and when you feel the discomfort, you'll say discomfort. You
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teach us what did you come to share? Where are
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you're beginning, and what's happening, and it will share its story. If, however,
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you're in a situation where you're reliving the protection from
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the trauma, you'll feel that in the body, and really
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you can ask the same questions, what have you come
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to share, where's this beginning, what's happening? But what you'll
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find out is that you'll get a story where the
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person is going to say, I am making sure I
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never experience what happened to me again, and I'm choosing
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to limit myself so that I never went into that
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situation again. And of course, at that point, like I said,
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the key is to say, you don't have to still
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make that choice. That's something that happened in your past
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or in another lifetime even and it's no longer relevant,
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so you can make a different choice. Let's give you
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a couple of examples of what I'm talking about, which
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whenever they get scared, they run into a dark closet. Well,
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let's suppose you're reliving a trauma. And let's suppose in
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another lifetime you were thrown into a well and you've
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died in the bottom of the well. Well, there'd be
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a lot of a fear associated with that, and there
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would be a reliving in the trauma by when you
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when you're scared, you go into the closet, and you're
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actually reliving being thrown into the well. You're not living
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a protection. I know it's a funny example, but can
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I tell you sometimes funny things coming off the top
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of the head. But I think you get the idea.
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beautiful sunny day and you're three years old in a car.
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into the street and you run out into the street
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and you nearly get run over by a truck and
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you get totally scared, and you run into your house,
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wanting to get as far away from sunshine and balls
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and freedom and everything. And you run into the house
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and you hide in the closet. Right. Well, then you
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might come in and you might say, you know, it's
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really funny. But I notice that, and the people around
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me notice that I'm really you know, my agrophobia. When
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I start to tell you about hiding in the closet,
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I noticed that literally I hide in the closet, or figuratively,
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I hide in the closet when I want to be
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who I truly am. So I don't want to come
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out of the closet because if I am who I
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truly am, I might get annihilate. And of course that's
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why people stay in the closet if they're afraid. I mean,
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if you think literally when you say coming out of
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the closet, you know, if they say who I am
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is unacceptable. The best way to protect myself is to
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go into a closet where no one can get to me.
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examples in the book, we had two examples of depression,
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and then one of them when the person found the
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depression which was to be weighed down, helpless, hopeless and
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they couldn't move. When they really found that story, they
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were in a story where the depression was that they
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were literally weighed down, helpless, hopeless, and they couldn't move
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because they were in the French Revolution and they were
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about to be guillotined, and in the story, they couldn't
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move anything except for their next So their depression was
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the reliving of the trauma. But in the second case,
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it wasn't the reliving or the trauma. It was reliving
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with protection. And in that story, of course what happened
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ro is very small boy wanted to give his father
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a very special present, and the father not only didn't
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receive the present, I pushed the boy away and left.
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was his internal experience. I have to deaden myself because
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it's too painful. So in that case, of course, the
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depression was the living over protection from the pain of
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having to deal with the fact that it was annihilating.
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him when he had given him this gift. The feelings
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were too powerful, so we had to deaden them. And
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of course, if you deaden the feelings, that's what depression is.
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too painful to experience the living experience of how much
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hurt there was. Or let's suppose you're constipated, right, Well,
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constipation could be only living in a story of being poisoned,
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at which point it would be the reliving of the story.
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suddenly you have a horrific constipation because it's helping you
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remember a traumatic death and of a lifetime from being poisoned.
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and you are in the car and with your father,
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and you need to go to the bathroom, and your
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father says hold it, and you can't hold it, so
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you soil yourself, and then your father yells at you
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for soiling yourself and not being able to hold it.
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can never let myself go. I can never literally let
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myself go because it's associated with being humiliated in shame.
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protection from the sense of if I really let go,
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I will be humiliated, and that's unacceptable. So I'm to
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try to give you certain examples of what we're talking about. Now.
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grateful for any of our symptoms because they're trying to
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help us heal and grow. So even when we we're
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living a trauma, we could say, well, you've shown up
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in my life to try to help me master something.
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to help us heal and grow. But it's not that
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we're being grateful because it's protecting us. We're just being
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grateful in the universal sense because everything can help us
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heal and grow. But let's take the second example and
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then the second example. Of course, we really are grateful
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for our symptoms because as they are protecting us at
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some cost to them. You know, it's like calling in
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a protector and it says, all right, I'll become dense
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and i'll protect you. I will cover over who you
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really are, because you can't be who you really are,
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it's too dangerous. So I'll become a dense energy and
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I will make sure that you get to hide and
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stay hidden behind that dense energy. So in that case,
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what we do is it's a very different experience when
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it tells you that that's what it is. And of
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course we can do what we can determine it if
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we know how to do that. But even if you don't,
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if you ask them it sounds like that, and say
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thank you so much, because constipation you protected me, or
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depression you protected me, and I don't need you anymore,
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I can choose to have you leave because I can
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witness you. Now I don't believe I am you anymore perspective,
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and I can choose to bring you outside of me
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and witness you from the outside, because from the point
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of view the witness you're already outside of me. I
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can notice you. That young man said as having wet,
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dense feeling of oatmeal in jest. Well, when we choose
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to bring our attention there, it's not who we are.
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our consciousness or our hands or whatever and bring it out,
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which is bringing out not only the protection but the
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person who, without awareness, was choosing to bring the protection in.
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can heal it by channeling light into it, and that heals.
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That transforms the protection into love and a kind of
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loving protection, and it heals the one who made the choice.
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spacious inside because you just took out this dense energy
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the truer self that was in hiding because it was
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unsafe to come out. And then we can invite it out.
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the body, We put our hands lovingly where it's been hell,
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my hand, and go forward and back and left and
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right until I become that truer self and it gets
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to keep all of its wonder and its authenticity, but
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it also gets to have all of the experiences you've
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ever had since then, so it's also gained discernment and wisdom.
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And then when the situation comes up again, you can say,
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I've already had that experience. I don't have to shut
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myself down. So distinctions between the reliving of trauma and
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reliving of the protection of trauma, and of course we'll
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talk about this in much more detail later, but just
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to get the general notion is really important. Having said that,
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I invite you, you know, to find any anything that
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you can find and to ask, you know, the sensation
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when you're doing your own healing work. Are you the
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traumatized one? Or are you the one who's protecting the
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traumatized one? And believe me, the sensation will tell you.
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And depending on what it tells you some note you
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will say it's both, at which point you get the
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traumatized one and the protector. And then if it's but
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if there's protection there, thank it. Bring it outside channel
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energy and you will take care of the protector and
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they'll take care of the one needed and you'll find
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you truly are to the great bet. I'll do it
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by the practice, but not if you're in the car,
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wait till you get home. Anyway, Having said that, Ah,
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you can always reach me. I hope you buy the book.
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It's called The One Hour Miracle. If you want to
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reach me, Ah, all you have to do is write
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to me at Ah A H a h n at
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Life Centered Therapy dot com. And if you want to
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do our training, we have just created a beautiful online
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training that anybody can do. And we're going to have
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online training for people who really want to learn this
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in depth, and we're going to have it for people
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who want to learn it more simply. And all of
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that's available to you, and it's all at our website,
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Life Centered Therapy dot com, so you can go there. Meanwhile,
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I wish you a good day, I wish you great healing,
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and I wish you freedom from suffer. Until I see
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you again, you will
