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Speaker 1: Come on, you're not getting worried with sir.
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Speaker 2: I help you up live from hein Maars Square. It's five double a breakfast, Deepen Ben berthe and wild goodies.
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Speaker 3: Minutes after six. Good morning till you welcome to Thursday and five double a breakfast. The twenty second of January fields like the calm before the storm of hot weather coming this weekend, not one but two days of forty degree maximums in our very near future. It's going to be a scorching hot Australia day long weekend. We'll be talking about that over the course of the morning. We'll get the very latest from the bureau. Who knows we might have another one by the time we get the quarter to seven this morning, we're off to Europe. We'll be chatting with Ben Downey for seven, who is an Davos, Switzerland for the World Economic Forum. Donald Trump has just spoken. We'll play some of what he had to say about Greenland, his ambitions for that Danish state, and more very very shortly also coming up on the program. Late yesterday we got a call from someone who said the trains had been stopped because of a very ugly incident that had taken place out on the line. We learnt subsequent that it was a kid on a scooter that got hit, and the questions have been raised again about the safety of e scooters riding them to school, what the legalities are, and so forth. We're getting too that after seven o'clock today, Matt Abraham is going to be cannot miss radio today. He's always can't miss radio, but today, with the coalition crumbling all around, we'll get some news on that at about eight o'clock this morning, by the way, and indeed a state election campaign that's well and truly up and running at the moment, he is going to be absolutely unmissable. David Penworthy, good morning to you.
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Speaker 4: Good morning Will, Good morning listeners. I hope you're all doing better than Susan Lee is this morning. The coalition is now dead in the water. Every single National Party MP, including the Nationals leader, has said I'm out of here. So it is no more.
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Speaker 3: It's over.
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Speaker 4: It's the end. Great headline on the front of the Ties of this morning, NAT's all, folks, and the trigger for all this is twofold the gun buyback stuff which the NATS blewed about, but more importantly it was the hate speech legislation, where you know, a cynic might say that Labor did an absolutely superb job of wedging the coalition on these issues of freedom of speech, whether the laws went far enough, whether they went.
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Speaker 3: Too far people well, aided by Susan Lee who demanded they come back early for parliament. Yeah, without getting a ducks in a row internally completely.
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Speaker 4: I mean if Conservatives are trying to say, oh, you know this was a trick laid by albow well, crikey, yell fell for it. Didn't you the most obvious sucker punch in the world, But I think it was a trap of their own making too, I think completely. But it's hard to Yeah, you don't have to think too long about why one nation's vote's going up.
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Speaker 3: Well. The other thing is, I think when you talk about the things that led to this the one nation vote, I think is it looms large behind the National's decision making and saw Anthony Green yes thatd I make the observation that if it does bear out at a federal election that one Nation polls twenty percent of the primary vote in large parts of Queensland and in lots of National seats that'll be about forty percent by nation totally. So a big motivating factor I think is that news poll.
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Speaker 4: They'll just rebrand themselves as one nation.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think there might be there may be some defections they certainly well, yeah, exactly. I think there's a lot of that that's currently going on within the Nationals Party. So it's just more tumult for the coalition. Speaking of polls, I saw one of the most extraordinary pole numbers I've ever seen yesterday. Fresh Water put out a pole about Donald Trump in Australia his favorability. This is really interesting. So twenty one percent of people have a favorable view of Donald Trump in Australia. That's down four points from the last time they conduct a poll in mid October. Unfavorable up four to sixty five percent, neutral, unsure thirteen percent. One percent of Australians have never heard of Donald Trump. Never never heard of Donald Trump. And they've got me thinking because I would suggest, surely they had count the rock. Who are these people? Who is the most famous person on planet Earth? Because if you asked me at first, blush, I would say Donald Trump. I bet you could walk into any village in Argentina to Somalia and Russia, and they all know who Donald Trump is. One percent of Australians don't. If it's not him, who is it? Eight double two to three double o doublo? Who is the most famous? Who would be the most famous person on earth? Who could you get one hundred percent name recognition on? I reckon.
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Speaker 4: Ronaldo and MESSI would be out there.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: MESSI was the first that came to mind for me because.
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Speaker 4: They sort of transcend, Yes, nationalities, kids go berserk for.
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Speaker 3: Them, popular in any country in the world.
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Speaker 4: Soweto to Honduras, like everyone, Soccer being the great unifying force.
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Speaker 3: I thought of one that I had to ask you about because you're the expert. Here does Taylor Swift end of the conversation, I think, So, where would you have a black span?
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Speaker 4: Think Africa is her strong suit. Possibly, She's never played a show there, as far as I can gather. She's played shows in Buenos Aires, Mexico City. She's huge in Latin America.
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Speaker 3: I think she had a good recognition in Asia.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Asia, Yeah, big time, Okay, big time.
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Speaker 3: Let's take some suggestions. Who would be the most famous person on Earth? It might be Donald Trump. If you think it is him, who's the second most eight double two to three double o double or Texas on zero before eight zero thirty ninety five. He is making headlines again overnight. Of course, the world economic for him in Dubos in Switzerland, where eventually, in a long speech about NATO, about economic policy and so forth, he got to talking about.
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Speaker 1: Greenland psychologically, who the hell wants to defend a license agreement? All we want from Denmark for national and international security and to keep our very energetic and dangerous potential enemies at bay is this land on which we're going to build the greatest golden dome ever built.
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Speaker 3: He also the one heartening component of the speech, despite not stepping back from the ambition to acquire Greenland. For one of a bit of phrase an X. You might have said, what's upon a time X? He said he won't use force.
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Speaker 1: We probably won't get anything unless I decide to use excessive.
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Speaker 3: Strength and force.
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Speaker 1: But I won't do that because people thought I would use force. I don't have to use force. I don't want to use force. I won't use force.
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Speaker 3: He was doing the full wave. By the way, there was a couple of old moments that people have raised eyebrows at including this one.
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Speaker 1: And then after the war which we won, we want it big without us. Right now, you'd all be speaking German and little Japanese perhaps.
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Speaker 3: Now presumably speaking to the leaders there, because of course Davos in Switzerland native German speakers. Yeah, in Switzerland that the German side speaks German and the French side seeks French, so they're all currently native German speakers. And then he's seemed to have some trouble with Iceland and Greenland at various points Europe.
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Speaker 1: I'm helping NATO, and i've until the last few days when I told him about Iceland. They loved me. They called me daddy right the last time, very smart man said he's our daddy. He's running it.
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Speaker 3: It was like running it.
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Speaker 1: They went from running it to being a terrible human being.
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Speaker 3: So it was it was the full weave. He was on up there for a long long time. It was unscripted.
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Speaker 4: It is this some breakfast show in Ragevic at the moment, trying to work out if it's an accident. All the wants to take Iceland. Now, well, it's certainly a lot less belligerent than some of the scenarios that you've seen written up these sort of fanciful, sort of speculative pieces about, you know, when the US troops land and.
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Speaker 3: What have you.
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Speaker 4: I don't think anyone really thought they were going to.
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Speaker 3: Actually really, but even to use the number of the morning, the one percent chance seems seemed totally extraordinary. But yeah, you're right. There's a heartening element towards this, and that is that maybe this is just a negotiator, This will remain a negotiation.
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Speaker 4: But it is still breathtaking, isn't it. You know, one thing we haven't discussed yet, what does all this mean for Orcus. I mean, you've got the UK out there openly deriding Trump, unabashedly siding with all of the other European NATO countries. You got the consensus from Canada to Anchorer that what Trump's doing is there has absolutely no basis in law. It's arrogant, it's impertinent. It's a terrible way to treat your so called friends. Are we still in this chummy chumming relationship with them?
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Speaker 3: Apparently we are. Presumably we're having conference calls between the UK and US as we speak.
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Speaker 4: Has Penny Wong said anything about it? Has Albo said anything about it. Do we stand with Greenland or do we just go We'll just sit this.
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Speaker 3: Wow we made the Australian made some milk toast statement that was noncommittal either way.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're just trying to sit down here in our little part of the hemisphere and pretend it's not.
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Speaker 3: Really We've gone full antivities on this one. Yeah, that's northern. That's a northern hemisphere from the one percent, I've never heard of Donald Trump on this one. Exactly right. We'll get to some of your suggestions very shortly on the most famous person on planet Earth. That's coming up.
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Speaker 2: David Penberthy and World Goodings five double a breakfast, lots of.
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Speaker 3: Texts coming through on zero four eight, zero eight thirteen ninety five quick roll call of nominations for the most famous person on Earth who could get one hundred percent name recognition if Donald Trump can't In austruct you.
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Speaker 4: I already liked this idea from Rob. This is what you call a poser, an intellectual poser. Rob says, call in now and tell us which famous person.
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Speaker 3: You've never heard of. I like that idea.
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Speaker 4: I like here, Elvis King, Charles, David Attenborough, the Pope when she was alive. Queen Elizabeth, I like that one. Queen Elizabeth.
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Speaker 3: Elizabeth is good.
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Speaker 4: She's the best of all of them. I reckon Michael Jordan. Yeah, quite a few people picking Michael Jordan and one here I thinks the joke, says Barnaby Joyce. He was recognized by every uber driver in Canberra because when they arrive to pick him up, they just look down at the footpath. He's down there somewhere.
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Speaker 3: He is certainly a name that's been brought up a lot in the last twenty four hours with a coalition falling over, and he's defection to one nation and they're surgeon the polls clearly being something of a driving force behind all this. Michael Packi is the national political editor for nine Radio and joins us on what looms as a massive day in federal politics. Pack good morning to you.
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Speaker 6: Good morning guys. Look, I do think that it could potentially be a massive day today if the coalition, the Liberals and the Nationals do yet again decide to split go their separate ways. It looks as though that that's where things are heading. When late last night the Nationals held a virtual meeting and all Nationals front benches decided to quit their roles, and a lot of it all comes down to the Labour's hate laws, the Albanezi government's hate crime laws, which have passed through the parliament. The Liberals backed them in fairly broadly back them in. There was a couple of Liberals that abstained from that boat, but they broadly back to the government's position in but the Nationals did not. The Nationals believe that these hate laws have been rushed, there hasn't been enough consultation, and that the legislation contains loopholes, and for that reason, the Nationals say they can't vote for them. And what's essentially happened is it's caused this fracture in the coalition. Last night the front benches resigned, and I do think that it's going to be hard for Nationals and Liberals really to work together for the rest of this term of parliament.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this looks like, you know, the absolute definition of reconcilable differences, doesn't it back.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, look absolutely so. You think that they went through this process in May last year after the federal election, and then they split for eight days and that became a bit of a joke in itself that they know they decided to go their separate ways eight days and then they came back together. But I don't think anything ever improved since then. There's been tensions since then, and I think it just all has come to a head yet again. And what happened here is that Susan Lee is saying that shadow cabinet did decide that these laws that Labor proposed would be passed. Okay, so she's saying they needed to be shadow cabinet solidarity. And you had an in shadow cabinet, you've got both Liberals and Nationals, and three Nationals being Bridget Mackenzie, Ross Cadell and Susan McDonald. When it came to the final vote, they decided to physically cross the floors rather and vote with the Greens against the laws, rather than just simply abstain in the Parliament, as in not coming to the chamber and vote to them. And it's that showered defiance of shadow cabinet of them, of these three members physically crossing the floor and voting with the Greens against Labour's laws, which has caused the ructions. They've tended their resignations as they had to do so because they breached or broke the cabinet's solidarity. And Susan Lee accepted those resignations, but David Little Proud write a letter telling her that if you accept these resignations, the rest of us will go. And that's what happened.
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Speaker 4: So, Pat, do you think it's fair to say that that was great analysis? By the way, like trying to keep on top of all of the miniche in the inner sort of outs and ins and up the cats wa zoo, remarkably complex stuff. Isn't the danger with this though, that the average punt were not actually the average punter. Because I'm struggling to understand it myself, and someone who ostensibly pays attention to politics, people just glance at this and go, jeez, that Susan Lee is hopeless.
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Speaker 6: It's one thousand percent yeah, one hundred percent correct, one hundred percent correct. There is so my new shah and detail and nuance in all of that they've done. That you're right for a lot of people saying what the hell is going on? The coalition does just not have its act together. It just gives alban easy and Labor another free part, even though they really don't deserve it.
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Speaker 4: Well, they have a shocking response to Bondi, the dithering over the Royal Commission, and here we are the some total result of all that is how about coasting along with the smoldering ruins of the coalition mind.
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Speaker 6: Him completely, one hundred percent. It's just it's unbelieving. And this is why you're talking about one nation. This is actually why one Nation has been seen this surge because at least as a party, they're clarified as to what it is they do and don't stand for.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent, great analysis, mate, Michael Packy, the national political editor for nine Radio and Cambra.
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Speaker 3: To that end, things like immigration, the lightning rod issue of the moment. You can go to the One Nation website and they put a number on it. They will tell you we will allow in one hundred and thirty three thousand people a year. It'll be down four hundred and fifty odd thousand from where it is right now. It's all so clear. There's no well, you know, not always for good.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes for real.
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Speaker 3: No, that's gee, we'll print more money. Well that's right. Yeah, But the Donald Trump lesson has been Donald Trump is very clear in what he says and stands for and wants to do. At least it's an ethos, dude, exactly right. Thirteen point eight degrees outside in the city at the moment. How many people seventy people with to me yesterday, said Cricky. It's cold at the moment. It's weird. It was mid twenties. It's heading for the top of a chili top of twenty seven today. Then things will change Tomorrow five, Saturday forty two, Sunday thirty four, Monday forty, Tuesday thirty nine. What if that one could get to forty two and then Wednesday it'll cool down to thirty degrees.
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Speaker 4: Well, Saturday has gone from thirty five to forty to forty one to forty two in the forecast.
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Speaker 3: Is going to be warm. Tom Ren's in the five double a breakfast, studio order and you glider or garage door before the end of feb and the operator's free teas and seas a play Morning Year Renny.
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Speaker 7: Morning Boys.
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Speaker 8: Eventually, now Dan Curtin, as we perhaps suspected, or a lot of fans may have suspected, he is going to have surgery, so he'll be out for at least the first six rounds of the season. They're saying back between round seven and nine. Disappointing, not great, not what you want to hear at the start of the year. Look, it was looking a bit scary yesterday Isaac Rankin went down at training, but false Salami came back and played the rest of MATSim But as we know, you don't want too much of your top end talent going down, particularly this time of year.
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Speaker 7: So he will be back. I think it's the right call. You've got to put him in.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a long term prospect. But the problem is I was saying that someone he's probably the guy that I think most Crows fans would have at least wanted to lose to injury in Yes, Jordan Dawson's a better football or Riley Philthorp's obviously in the conversation he's got more upside. But if you look at the side and go how are they going to get over the hump and becoming side that wins finals, it's probably Dan Curtin's like at the top of the list. Yeah, he's the midfielder. He's the guy that's right, He's the one so much hope is on his shoulders are now on his kneecap.
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Speaker 7: Now, yeah, and now other players. I mean tough, really tough in Melbourne.
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Speaker 4: It doesn't get much easier.
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Speaker 8: It's going to have to be those players like Sligo who spoke about you know, all of those guys are going to have to.
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Speaker 7: Step up and have big starts to the year.
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Speaker 4: Every day the club normally does not win.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, so tough.
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Speaker 9: Now.
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Speaker 8: The other thing I wanted to touch on is Manchester City. Have the players sent a dangerous precedent. They've lost a Champions League match yesterday to a Norwegian side who hadn't won a Champions League match this campaign. They called Bodo Glint, a tiny side in Norway, and because Manchester City lost three to one, they've said to all their traveling fans, We're going to refund your money. We're going to pay for everything that you've.
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Speaker 3: Really talked out of your pocket. So this occasionally in English football.
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Speaker 7: Would you would you like to see a FL sides do something similar?
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Speaker 3: And whereould you get a reefer? We are in no danger of that happening anytime soon. I would have thought, ready how.
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Speaker 4: Many how many of our listeners saw both the Crows finals last year?
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Speaker 3: I would like it.
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Speaker 4: That would have been good, particularly that Brisbane game. There's one of the worst games of football. Second one.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Ji, and you can rip them speaking of their midfield, he ripped them in that first.
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Speaker 3: Quarter exactly right. I like it though. It'd be good if you got it. If your team was so bad.
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Speaker 7: You're got a free trips.
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Speaker 4: Poor fans should get a refund for the entire season last year, the season that never was with the whole.
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Speaker 3: The problem with this plan is if you're a North Melbourne fan, you've been actually made being a fan of full time job the last three years. I think, yeah, you're probably earning a wage at this point. If if you've had to buy a house in North Melbourne cod On, you're ready. Thanks boys, David.
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Speaker 2: Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a breakfast twenty one minutes to seven.
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Speaker 3: Looking forty here into from the bureau this morning, because there is a third day now that's dangerously close to hitting the forty mark in the early part next week. We've got the forty two on Saturday obviously, then we've got the forty on Monday and of thirty nine on Tuesday, so we'll check it with the bureau and get it. I mean, we are in serious hot weather, dangerous hot weather pattern here, so we will find it from the Weather Bureau. Chance there is of a third forty in our very near future that's coming up shortly. Matt Abraham in an hour's time on everything that's going on politics, state and federal. Cannot wait for Matt to come in the studio.
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Speaker 4: Is it going to be a message if you're not at this point yet, will you will be soon? You will be very soon. With a little Rosie growing up.
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Speaker 3: They grow up so fast, as they say.
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Speaker 4: But Tuesday's school lunch box is presenting quite the conundrum. Forty one degree days for back to school fruit.
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna have a long shelf life, is it?
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Speaker 10: It?
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Speaker 4: Don't putting any sushi in there, any anything with butter or mayonnaise is going to be pretty unpleasant. You can't use any.
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Speaker 3: Lot of dry cruskets in the box, am or anything.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe maybe some cruskets and vegemite could withstand it.
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Speaker 3: But even that would the butter and it'd be liquefied.
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Speaker 4: But you know how hot the banana would be by the time.
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Speaker 3: It's a good question, what do you do? What's the hot weather lunch box item.
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Speaker 4: Well, the problem too is the school touch chops off and aren't open on the first day back to school, and particularly after a long weekend where the shops are shut on Monday. So I guess the kids would just have to go hungry, you.
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Speaker 3: Know what, with the thing we haven't sold.
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Speaker 4: If they can forage for nuts and berries.
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Speaker 3: I've missed this and I confess this is my ear. They could have to forage the Tuesday night overnight low. The overnight low on Tuesday is going to be twenty eight degrees. Gidding, twenty eight.
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Speaker 4: It's got sort of five years ago forty six degree vibes about it. This weekend, really Saturday like, it wouldn't be surprising if it went up to forty three or forty four. I don't think I'm not just jumping around.
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Speaker 3: I don't think the forecast maximum is quite so high in Davos, Switzerland. That's what we're heading now. If with Ben Downey, who's the seven News Europe correspondent who was a witness to Donald Trump's extraordinary speech just hours ago. Ben, good morning to.
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Speaker 10: You, ding Jens. Now you have seven degrees here, so I'd probably trade my temperature for yours.
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Speaker 4: Oh mate, you're bearing up.
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Speaker 10: They've got to wear a suit and tie of these kind of engaged just as much as I'd like to wear a big ufer and jacket and snow gear. I'm struggling, but I'm not swing. You need to feel Symothy, for this is a billionaires playground, so I've got people have a worse than idea right now.
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Speaker 4: So trump'sn't really at Davos. He's sort of off to the side with the sort of fold out table from Bunning's doing his own presentation, isn't he? Is that the way it's sort of working.
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Speaker 10: Well, it's called Camp USA. They've actually had to overtake a church in town so big as the US delegation here so they can host all their meetings. But no, he's very much in the thick of it right today. Quite a shell of force, really a giant military helicopter convoy landing in the middle of the Swiss alpine town before he went and really made a speech that the whole world was waiting with baited breath to hear, because there's always these fears that he was about to either invade green Land or hit many of these allies, these European nations with these harsh tariffs, they wouldn't allow him to have this Arctic territory. And then he went on to basically saying we need to have it for Arctic security. It's a master we're going to install missile systems across all of it as well, and basically telling them we need to have urgent negotiations and if you don't, well you don't know what's going to happen if you don't come to the negotiating table. But after issuing these threats in the last few moments, they've got some breaking news for you. He's just jumped on truth Social, one of the late night screeds he's really famous for writing, and he appears to have done a complete u turn. Now he says he's just had a very productive meeting with the NATO Secretary General. He's begun the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland. And then importantly he says, I will not be imposing all these tariffs that were scheduled to go into effect on Europe. So this is really one of those classic Taco moments that acronym that meets Trump always chickens out. He's done really a u turn. There was a lot of fear and anticipation over what he was going to say. But now it appears this strategy of flattery by Mark Rutter, the NATO Secretary General member, this is the guy that's called Trump Daddy the last time he was over in Europe, seems to for now at least have won him over.
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Speaker 4: Has he chicken ow or has it been successful brinsmanship? Though, like if the head of NAT is now saying we're prepared to look at some framework, could they get their way throughout force economic or certainly military.
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Speaker 10: Well, I think consider importantly at this stage. I mean, if you think if you asked NATA, they'd certainly say it's shrewd negotiating. But if importantly, in this statement we've just had from Trump, it doesn't mention anything about whether he would own the territory or whether it would remain under the control of Denmark and green Land, and it says nothing about Denmark or Greenland's wishes. But Mark Rutter, this NATO Secretary General, he's in there representing Denmark being one of the close NATO nations as well, he's in there fighting four NATA. So we don't have the complete details of this yet it looks like it's only the beginnings of a deal this stage anyway. But at this stage it appears after Trump saying only a few hours ago that they have to not just have control of it with military bases, but literally own it because in his words, none wants to defend a license agreement over Greenland. Now it appears, at least in some stage that it's going to remain a territory of Denmark for now. But of course with Trump, he so predictable. We've just seen in the last twenty four hours he's gone from on the brink of invasion to now becoming best friends with NATO again. He knows what's going to happen in the next twenty four hours.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, big breaking news, Ben, Thank you for that, Ben Downey for seven years in Switzerland. You'll get the latest on those developments on seven News tonight. That is an extraordinary change. And I'm just looking at the markets. The taco trade is that it was share traders that coined the coin that turn a frase. The trader's paid off again. If you buy the moment Trump talks tariffs as a threat and when markets tank, you're buying a dip that predictably will rebound very quickly.
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Speaker 4: He's probably doing it himself as the ultimate form of insider trading.
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Speaker 3: This don't laugh people, if not Trump himself, people around him. Oh yeah, his cotery codery. That's extraordinary. I tell you what else is extraordinary. Some of the folk people have been taking pictures of their weather rap but fixed to their location around South Australia. I think the winner is Trish in the Riverland in Barry. Have listened to the berry forecast from Saturday through to Wednesday forty four Saturday forty three, Sunday forty six, Monday forty seven, Tuesday forty seven forty Wednesday, then you think, oh, well it must cool off. Well this is how it cools off thirty eight Thursday, thirty nine Friday thirty eight Saturday. Trish is going to be slow cooked, unbelievab let's sad to the weather bureau. Ellie Matthews joins us, Ellie, we're trying to get our heads around all the numbers at the moment. Could we have three forty degree days in Metroalala. Do you think over the course of the next week.
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Speaker 11: Oh, look, in terms of how the forecast is shaping up. There's certainly a few days that are very much nearing, if not over that forty degrees in the next week or so. There's certainly across the state there is broader areas that are sitting well up into the mid forties for much of the coming week or so. Whilst today is not looking anywhere near as warm as the later forecast is, today is sort of that mihuld to warm day before the heat does arrive, only looking at a top of twenty seven degrees for Adelaide today. And when I say only that is when we're saying forty two degrees is on the forecast for Saturday, and still continuing at a thirty four degrees on Sunday, before another forty degrees potentially for Monday and Tuesday. So certainly a lot of heat is building across the states. Broadly across the pastoral areas. We're looking at forty five degrees if not warmer, for much of from Friday onwards, so certainly plenty of heat around and that does bring with it at times we will be seeing some gustier winds, particularly on Saturday, so it does mean for some elevated fire dangers in the coming week, particularly that Saturday, as we do see some fresh and gusty north northwesterly winds building ahead of a trough that does pass through. That trough may bring a slight reprieve to some heat for some of the coastal areas, including Adelaide. But in saying that the warmth does return for the new week, David and.
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Speaker 4: Will brace yourself. Ellie, it is going to be hot. Thank you for that, Elie. Matthews there from the weather View are our good friend. Jane Riley texted yesterday saying that yesterday Tuesday, Sorry, yesterday's Wednesday two days ago. Tuesday marked exactly a month since Adelaide recorded any rainfall. The last time it's rained in Adelaide was December twenty when we got one point two mill and the average rainfall for january's twenty mil.
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Speaker 3: We didn't get a drop last year, did we in January? Because we wouldn't get a drop until incredibly late in the year. Yeah, yeah, one if we're on the same path to that, just looking at our residence. That's man Ben Jordan who's texted in. You mentioned the forty six point six degrees in twenty nineteen that has sort of feel about it. He says that was part of a three hot day period. But in December of that year we also had four days in a row averaging forty four degrees and one night the overnight low was thirty three. So we've been through worse. I guess it's the boy.
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Speaker 4: It's true.
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Speaker 3: Soon you. Constable Daniel Isaacson from Sapoul joins us as we reflect on the overnight incident. So there was a car fire at Glenn Daniel, Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 12: Just after eleven to fifteen pm yesterday, Police and MFS crews were called to Provident Avenue after reports of a Black Master on fire. MFS crews extinguished the blaze, which had caused pretty extensive damage to the vehicle. We believe that this fire was deliberately lit. So we're just asking if anybody is witnessed the incident, call Crime Stubbs on one eight hundred Triple three Triples Area or report online.
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Speaker 4: Daniel. Also, there's been a house break in at Holden Hill.
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Speaker 13: Yeah.
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Speaker 12: This one happened at about three twenty am today. That's when police were called to an address on Narita Street at Holden Hill after reports of three people entering the property. The homeowner was confronted and a gray toad a camera was stolen, and luckily nobody was injured. The offenders left and the car was found a short time later after it had crashed his parked cars on Gaelic Avenue at holden Hill. So but didn't get too far. The car was towed from the scene and it's going to be forensically analyzed and investigations to locate the people responsible are continuing. And again if anybody has any information or witness this, we'll just ask them to contact crime Stuff as that number again one eight hundred, triple three, triple zero.
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Speaker 4: So when you come to with Daniel Isaacson from Sapole story for that holden Hill family, absolutely.
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Speaker 3: Tim sent us through what's the most comical forecast over the course of the next few days, Tarcola in the state's mid north. Now, I'll just read it to you. If so, the rest of today thirty five and so I call it Friday forty three, Saturday gets up to forty eight degrees tar call now, but have a listen to this some relief, late cool, change and windy. It drops back the next day to forty five. How about that cool change? Then forty seven on Monday the barbecue add forty four on Tuesday. Well, they'll be holding out for that relief of three degrees from forty eight to forty five in Tarcola. I bet, let's check traffic. We'll be back with more. Five double breakfast in just a moment.
00:31:24
Speaker 4: I like this one from Peter, he says. If it don't make it at Heaven, at least I know what hell feels like with this.
00:31:29
Speaker 2: Seek Yeah, David Penberthy and World Goodings five double A Breakfast Now.
00:31:34
Speaker 3: Former colleague here at five double A. Chris McDermott is announced to be running for the seat of Dunstan at the state election for Sarah games Fair Go Party. We are going to be counting down before seven o'clock the top seven sports personalities turned politicians, So get your mind thinking about that and see if we've if we've missed anyone, but will reveal the top seven shortly.
00:31:58
Speaker 4: I doubt he's in our list because he's two.
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Speaker 3: Thank you that.
00:32:00
Speaker 4: There was a guy who played for Carlton in the nineteen fifties. Percy, Percy, Percy, I can't remember his last name was Percy Jackson. Percy Jackson, he ran for the Liberals. And you know who slogan was point Percy at the Parliament was that was his slogan, Percy Percy person.
00:32:21
Speaker 3: That's quite something.
00:32:22
Speaker 4: First Texter through who's got his name, will give you some wills tickets.
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Speaker 3: Now this is extraordinary. You go to an airport, the vending machine is very important. You're waiting around, You've usually got a selection of chips, crisps, soft drink water. Not in Port Lincoln where you can get oysters oysters from the airport vending machine. Joanne Quigley is the Lower air Council Mayor and joins us on five to the Blue Breakfast. Now, Mayor, good.
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Speaker 4: Morning to you.
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Speaker 14: Good morning.
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Speaker 4: This is a great idea, Mayor. They do it in France, don't they.
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Speaker 3: Is that?
00:32:59
Speaker 4: What the do you come from?
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Speaker 14: We actually got the idea from a vendi that we have in Coffin Bay that has a venging machine outside of their oyster business.
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Speaker 4: Okay, is it the restaurant there on the Oyster boardwalk Oyster HQ? Yes, yeah, Oyster HQ. Cory Bernardi owns that, doesn't.
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Speaker 14: He he does?
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Speaker 13: Now?
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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, So it's coming to coming to Paul Lincoln. What a great innovation.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, look, we're really excited. It's taken a little while for it to work, but we're working with Craig and Sandy from the Fresh Fish Place and they've now the machine arrived last week and on Saturday we had it filled and we were quite fortunate that we'd had the Tunerama in Port Lincoln, so we had quite a few ministers and we had Opposition Leader Susan Lee and Federal Minister Don Farrell along with state ministers Joe Sockutch and Lucy Hood at the airport on Saturday morning when it was stopped, so they were some of the first to be able to purchase the goods. So great, great promotion for the seafood industry on the Lower Peninsula. So really excited that it's all up and going, and if you want to pop in, you can get fresh coffin Bay oysters, we've got local seafood, bluef in, tuna and spencer golf kingfish and jars, pickled local octopus, Portland and squid, and there's quite a good selection of different smoke house products. So the fridge is ready to go and it looks amazing in the spot where it is, it's very convenient for people to be able to grab something. And the other amazing thing is that you can actually purchase a bag, a cold pat bag to put your produce in, to get it on the plane and to get it home.
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Speaker 3: Good is that.
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Speaker 4: I'll presume the oyster is around open though, are they not?
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Speaker 12: I think they're opened really well.
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Speaker 14: But now now that you've said that, I was. I was looking at the machine as I blew out of Portlancoln last night. But I I think we're but maybe they might not be. I'm sorry that I not all over that life.
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Speaker 3: People can go and discover for themselves, don't they.
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Speaker 14: That's right, absolutely, But I think the fact that you don't have to be prepared with packaging or anything like that, it's all there, yeah, a one stop shop for you to be able to take some produce home and to be able to share the experiences of our seafood. It is well renowned and we're really proud of it. So it's great that people.
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Speaker 12: Can do that.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely couldn't have said it better myself. Mayor good on your joan quickly the Lower Air Council.
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Speaker 3: Mayor thanks everyoneho's texted and calling as well. Percy Jones was the person you were thinking of the.
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Speaker 7: Top seven before seven?
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Speaker 3: Which person Jones could well have featured in our Top seven before seven? Sports personalities turned politicians inspired by number seven. Chris McDermott inaugurll Crow's captain now running for the steak of Dunstan and the state election. Number six. This is global, by the way, These are big global names. Manny Pacquiao, the boxer, one of the greats of all time, became a senator in the Philippines between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty two. Dawn Fraser, of course, remember for Balmont. That's right, one of the greatest who ever done it? Nov Paris, speaking of Olympians turned parliamentarians, became the first Indigenous woman selected to parliament in twenty thirteen. Imran Khan, the great Pakistan All round of twenty eighteen to twenty twenty two, doesn't ever turn out well for former Prime Ministers of Pakistan wants their term ins and he's currently in jail. Arnold Schwarzenegger, the governor to mister Olympia. This counts as a sportsperson, doesn't it. He was a professional bodybuild in mister universety, what sort of thing? California governor for eight years twos and three to twenty eleven and a number one spot there could only be one. Longtime listeners to this program will know this was going to be easy.
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Speaker 15: No morning, good morning, Good morning, Chris. Why are you standing a number of reasons. I guess throughout my sporting career, I've had the urge to do community work and I think I've really worked hard on that aspect my sixteen years in Canberra. And the thing about that is that I was, I guess, a public figure and I was put on as a on the pardium where I was just a person out there making sure that.
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Speaker 3: I was I'm bugged.
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Speaker 15: I'm sorry.
00:37:15
Speaker 3: That's a right resign.
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Speaker 10: So, ma'am.
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Speaker 15: I think he is leaving the studio and he says that he.
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Speaker 3: Can't do it. I love that for legendary moments in Australian political history.
00:37:27
Speaker 4: Well, Bone won't come on with us this morning.
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Speaker 3: We love it. We're trying to get colder Bone.
00:37:31
Speaker 4: He went on with Lay last night, but he won't come on with us, So maybe he's broke. He's going to do a mon Aninga on the Breaking.
00:37:37
Speaker 3: Show, There's Still Time. There's Still Time by.
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Speaker 2: David Penberthie and Will Goodings five Double A Breakfast.
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Speaker 3: Seven after save but good morning to you and welcome for Thursday if you're joining us for the first time on five Double A Breakfast today some breaking user expecting in the next hour on the program, the Nationals will be holding an all in press conference in Cambrick in about fifty minutes time, so out of eight o'clock we imagine we'll get some clarity around the future of the coalition. Would appear there is no future for the coalition. Let's start a book.
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Speaker 4: I'll chance my arm and say that by five pm tomorrow season Lee will have resigned as leader of the Liberal Party.
00:38:13
Speaker 3: Do you think that's how this plays out? I think she's cooked, isn't she. I think she should be cooked, But that's a different question to whether she actually will.
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Speaker 4: But I think she's going to have a Vincent Tazi style epiphany where she just goes And he did his on a Friday as well. He thought about it Thursday night. Today is Thursday. It was exactly six weeks ago. That No, seven weeks ago. Sorry that Vincent Tarzi did that cracky how time flies. But it just feels like she's got this, She's she's got the.
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Speaker 3: Well, how much worse can it get? What does it need to get a doomed woman? Well, Alicia's recap the last few days? Shall we the worst news poll result for any major party in the history of news poll? And the coalition is no more like the.
00:38:56
Speaker 4: Preferred Conservative Party in Australia now is headed by Pauline Hands That's correct, but the Party of John Howard is behind the Party of Pauline Hansen.
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Speaker 3: That would seem to be a compelling argument for a leadership change, wouldn't it. Yeah?
00:39:08
Speaker 4: And I think she.
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Speaker 3: I mean.
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Speaker 4: The question then becomes who gets it? And I think, sadly, the Liberal who is shaming Tailor the most leadership in Australia over the last eight weeks on the one issue that should be uniting us all, sadly is not in the Parliament. His name's Josh Friedenberg. Yes, without a doubt he shamed Anthony Alberanezi with that speech that he gave in Bondai and the leadership that he showed. Primarily, I would argue on behalf of all Australians and also importantly his own his own people, the Jewish people of Australia. But his anger was justified. And we've now got this absurd situation where the government, the alb and Easy government has been on the skids over its response to BONDEI and it's ambivalence to the calls in the two years proceed BONDI that anti Semitism was running unchecked in Australia, the bombing of synagogues, the sort of hate speech that's been running unchecked and unchallenged through mosques in western Sydney and in outer of Melbourne in particular, the furor over the repatriation of Isis Bride's, the question mark over the checking of Palestinian asylum seekers, some of whom may or may not support harmus and will never know because the vetting processes are so sloppy. I mean, there's any number of things you can criticize the Albansy government over and what's happened.
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Speaker 3: The coalition has collapsed.
00:40:41
Speaker 4: It's just a extra disaster.
00:40:43
Speaker 3: We'll find more about that after eight o'clock the day. We'll gett Abraham's take in the next twenty or thirty minutes as well. Of course here in the outstrata, in the midst of a an election campaign that's just a couple of months away, and we have a new contender for the seat of Dunstan.
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Speaker 16: Somebody that's coming in from outside. I think the political landscape is ready for some change. Can't say I'm going in expecting to win. I'm going in hoping I can make a difference and people can see that.
00:41:11
Speaker 3: That's an augrill Crow's coach, former five Double A host Chris McDermott, who will be running for the Sarah Game a fair go for All South Australian's Party in the seat of Dunstan.
00:41:21
Speaker 4: He's the world's nicest bloke, but Bone has got an absolute snowballs chance in hell of making any difference whatsoever in that seat. Why didn't he run down Glenn Elgway. He should have.
00:41:31
Speaker 3: It's just about where he lives, isn't it. There's more he don't live in there electorate.
00:41:38
Speaker 4: He should have run in Gibson, which is Cory Winguard's old seat. You know, every person down there is a mad Bay supporter and the margin for Labour is only like one percent down there, isn't it if you run down there, he might have actually caused a few more ripples. But in Lardi Dar Eastern suburbs Dunstan. This is how well it's a glenelg Blake doing living on that side of town. Anyway, get to the barbecue in from the Nord Parade.
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Speaker 3: You've asked the interesting question there. At the by election in To twenty twenty four April twenty twenty four, Ana Finincio got forty three point five percent of the first preference vote. Cressita Handler, who won the seat thirty two point one percent. Katie McCusker, remember was the Greens are very strong in that part of Adelaide nineteen point two percent. It would seem to be a herculean effort to try and get into the second position, which is what he'd have to do to get get in on preferences. That's a huge ask, but if he did manage to do it, he will join Frank Pangalo among the class of former five Double A hosts have tried their hand in state politics. One of our listers can think of any others any others that have There have been plenty of others that have been in politics and come and hosted radio here, but have gone from the radio side to actually politics.
00:42:56
Speaker 4: You've done one off programs when I was on paternity leave. You did show a couple of times with Nick Xenophone.
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Speaker 3: Yes, but he was already in politics, I suppose.
00:43:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.
00:43:04
Speaker 3: Jane Stinson was a regular when I was doing Afternoon. She was always our political correspondent and then went on to be we'll claim that one. She went on to become a labor MP for the seat of bad Co.
00:43:13
Speaker 4: Obviously, Natasha Stock the spoyer did radio. Yes, she also did radio with a former partner in Smith at the ABC for quite some time, there's been there's been a lot. Kevin Foley did radio here. He did the breakfast, he did the morning show for all he was good too.
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Speaker 3: Fully, I'm not afraid of knock about manners saying what he thinks on time. This weekend around the country, coinciding with Australia Day at midday in all the major capital cities, there will be March for Australia events taking place, and one of the anthems of the March for Australia is now the subject of some controversy. Colin Haig, the lead singer of Men at Work, of course, has issued a statement in the last three hours that reads, let me say that I most strenuously disapprove of any unauthorized, unlicensed use of down Under for any March for Australia events. Down Under, a song I co wrote, does not belong to those who attempt to sew xenophobia with the fabric of our great land, our great people. Down Under is ultimately a song of celebration. It's for pluralism and inclusion, unity, not division. Go write your own song, leave mine alone. Colin Hay signs off Colin Hay and In Brackett's Immigrant is.
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Speaker 4: From Scotland originally. Yeah, Colin Hay, Well, that's fair enough, it's his song. There's been incidents of this in the nited in the United States, in American politics? Was it Springsteen?
00:44:57
Speaker 3: Fired up?
00:44:57
Speaker 4: When Ronald Reagan tried to use Born in the USA in the ninety eight.
00:45:01
Speaker 3: Trump had one two a song that he was using that was objected to.
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Speaker 4: Every performer.
00:45:09
Speaker 3: Apart from that, there's a few country music types kid rock, kid rock, sweet Ome Alabama, Nicki Minaj now yeah, she's pull Margaret Yeah, Taita had a.
00:45:20
Speaker 4: Bit of a stink with Trump too, that's right, the swifties for Trump, the Instagram website that took off.
00:45:28
Speaker 3: That's right, zero eight thirty ninety five. Lots to lots to talk about this morning, the sort of stuff that's happening as we speak, and lots of feedback coming through on those issues and more as well.
00:45:41
Speaker 4: A lot of feedback about the coalition. Fair to say that those listeners among our number who skew conservative are just shaking their heads the way this is playing out. A few people are making some quite shrewd predictions. I think Paul in Norwd might be onto something morning, lads. I can see the National possibly entering into a coalition with the One Nation Party, especially with the potential for Barnaby Joyce opening negotiations. And one here from Andrew saying I agree with you, Dave. Susan Lee is cooked after she accepted the first three resignations, when David little Prowd told her if she did, the rest would walk. What a mess we've got, calls out to some of South Australia's few remaining coalition federal MPs. There's only two of them left in South Australia at the Lower House level more senators. But we've been getting texts from people saying that there are all sorts of theories doing the rounds and no one has any idea what is going to happen. Sorry, I've been distracted.
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Speaker 3: I mentioned there's the old musician that's been upset about Donald Trump using their music. Do you want to hear the definitive list?
00:46:53
Speaker 4: How long is it?
00:46:54
Speaker 3: But TI? This is in alphabetical order. These are people that have officially publicly rebuked Donald Trump for using their music in campaign events or public speaking tour or whatever. Abba Abbat Adele, Aerosmith, Aha, Andrew Lloyd Webber, The Animals, The Beatles, Beyonce, Bruce Springsteen, Celine, Dion, Credence, Clear Order, Revival, Earth Wind and Fire, Eddie Grant, Elton, John Everlast, Foo Fighters, Free Guns N' Roses, Isaac Kay's, Jess Glynn, Joey Valence and Bray, Johnny mar Kenny Logan's Letterard Cohen, The Musical Lay, Miss Lincoln Park, Luciano Pavarotti, MGMT, Neil Young, Nickelback, Nico Veaga, Nick Kershaw, The Ojs, Olivia Rodrigo, Ozzy Osborne, Panic at the Disco, Farrell, Williamsfield Collins, Prince Queen arim Rihanna, The Rolling Stones, Rupus, Wayne Wright, Sabrina Carpenter, Seismonic Shnado, Konna, Spinal tap As Scissor, Spikal tap Tom Petty, Twisted, Sister Village People, the White Stripes.
00:47:46
Speaker 4: That's quite a cop. That's pretty much every Grammy winner for the last twenty five years.
00:47:52
Speaker 3: Richard and Glenside has called in on sports people turned politicians born If you're.
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Speaker 9: Richard, yeah, hi, guys, you might be a bit young to remember. But Ian McLaughlin was a Liberal politician for many years and a test cricketer.
00:48:05
Speaker 5: So I don't know if you've.
00:48:07
Speaker 9: Got him or not, if you missed him or not. I'm not sure.
00:48:10
Speaker 3: He's a great but it's a great entry.
00:48:11
Speaker 4: Rich was the Defense Minister in Canberra in the first term of the Howard government and in a show of a character which sadly is lacking I think in a lot of people in public life, he sacked himself. He quit the front bench when he accidentally received secret information about the High Marsh Island Bridge. That was that's intended for another person whose surname was McLaughlin. It was sent to his office in error, and he opened it and read it.
00:48:44
Speaker 3: Politics used to have integrity, didn't they at least more integrity?
00:48:47
Speaker 4: And on account of reading it, he went and handed himself into.
00:48:52
Speaker 3: Thinking about Barrio. Farrell in New South Wales are resigned because he received a bottle of wine that he didn't declare bottle of Grange. Bottle of Grange. Thank you for that, Richie. That was a good one. Alan and Henley Beach, good morning, thir Good morning David.
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Speaker 13: Will Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Chris Natt exployer, a footballer, was a legislative member of an assembly in Northern Territory.
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Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's good. That's a good fee, Alan John Alexander's one that came to mind. Member four men alone, that's right, a short time ago. Matt Cowdrey, my local member in Carlton Course outgoing unfortunately, is a good member. He's a good representative. Matt in Victoria. That's right. Tennis player yep.
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Speaker 2: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 3: Twenty three minutes after seven. Late in the program yesterday, we received a call from someone who was standing on the platform at a train station or a series incident had unfolded. They won't aware what it was, but just knew that the Gaula line had been stopped and police and emergency services were in attendant. Subsequently, we learnt over the course of the day that a sixteen year old boy crashed into a train riding an e scooter. It comes just days after an escoter rider clydeal to the car at Stirling and six odd months it was July last year when es scooter riding in South Australia became legal. Six months in a couple of incidents. Let's chat with an expert in Russell White, chair of the Australian Road Safety Foundation. Russell, good morning to you. What evidence do we have Obviously it's early in the game here in South Australia about but the safety of riding east scooter is, say, compared to school kids riding bikes.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, morning, guys. I think the jury is a little bit out still on the exact extent of this, but what we're going to be seeing, I think in what we have seen pretty much right around the country is that there's increasing rates in terms of serious trauma from things like e scooters and e bikes, probably for a number of reasons. But obviously the speed that these things can do is quite different, say to your standard push bike. They can do their speed consistently. So I think we've also got a real mix now of people hitting the roads, and they're fairly inexperienced with a little experience, i should say, on things that can go quite quickly and can be at times quite unstable from a dynamic standpoint. So we are certainly when I talk to to trauma surgeons around the country, it's probably the number one thing that they're talking about in terms of increases in injury and when we're seeing road trauma figures right across the country, you know, for the last four or five years heading in the wrong direction. This is this is part of the puzzle that we've got to try and solve.
00:51:27
Speaker 4: One of the things that seems confusing Russell is they're sort of neither fish nor foul these bikes. They sort of, you know, they feel like they're too fast to go on those shared bike in pedestrian lanes, and then they're not quite fast enough to go on the roads.
00:51:42
Speaker 17: Yeah, that's and again you're right, when things like this come into the road safety space, they often come in I guess with unintended consequences, you know. But I think obviously you know, from other genders, if you like, you know, e Bikes scooters might appeared to have been a solution, and in some cases they might be. But I think there's also with anything new, and let's face it, we saw the same thing really with mobile phones. Mobile phones came into our lives so quickly, very quickly found themselves into cars, very quickly found themselves into our road network, and as a result, in now our distraction is a major thing of what we're trying to deal with in terms of reducing road fatalities and road injuries. And you're right when these things sort of don't quite fit, you know, in either space. You know, I think, as you said in your intro, you know, I think when we're looking at the complexity of this issue, it's not just collisions with these devices and vehicles, clearly, there's also a significant issue with them cliding with pedestrians as well. And they're very quick, they're very they're very they can be unstable in terms of I said that they're dynamics, and they're also fairly silent, so as the pedestrian he cons them coming as well.
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Speaker 4: Russell White, the chair of the Australia Road Safety Foundation, Thanks for that, Associate Professor been living from the Adelaide UNI School of Law is on the line now, Professor. What are the legalant and thank you for joining us. What are the what are some of the sort of new legal challenges that these scooters throw up?
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Speaker 18: Good morning. I think the main challenge, and I agree with all of what Russell's just says, strikes me. They're quite complicated rules that exist around them, and they are routine these flouted. So I think probably the main problem they present is difficulties with enforcement. I mean just yesterday anticipating this call this morning. Just yesterday walking home, I was passed by numerous people who had passengers, which is which is not supposed to be happening. Numerous people without helmets, which again you should be wearing helmets, and you quite frequently see privately and this is not so much the higher ones, but privately owned ones that are are way beyond the power capacity that you should be having on this that should be allowed, which probably gets around this idea of them being too slow to keep up with traffic when they're on the roads. They do seem a little bit vulnerable. But but it's it's clearly not something that that that that's being regulated or police as people might I like it to be.
00:54:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely great Staff Associate Professor Ben Livings from the we now call Adelaide University. Yeah, Adlide University, the University of Adelaide's Adelaide University.
00:54:12
Speaker 3: Twenty eight minutes after seven, five Double News is coming up. Then immediately after it, Matt Abraham will join us for the first time in twenty twenty six. We've got the coalition in disarray, of big press conference that the Nationals are holding in about thirty three minutes time, and a state election campaign that is well and truly underway. We'll get all of Matt's thoughts next.
00:54:30
Speaker 2: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five Double A Breakfast.
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Speaker 3: I was.
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Speaker 13: Fish, here's the monk received manifest.
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Speaker 7: You're eating the dogs.
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Speaker 8: I'll tell you what any buses sex anyone not turning up the day as a thump matts.
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Speaker 3: Yes. For the first time in twenty twenty six in a target rich environment. Matt Abraham joins us in the five Double A Breakfast studio. Matt, good morning, Good morning, Will, good morning.
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Speaker 18: David.
00:55:01
Speaker 4: Great to see you, Matt, Happy New Year.
00:55:03
Speaker 19: Happy New Year to you guys.
00:55:04
Speaker 4: We have spoken, we've been testing each other. Yes, there's been lots to talk about it.
00:55:07
Speaker 19: It's been a bit of Writers Week texts going, We've been a lot of writing about Writers Week, having encapsulated little texts. I've been thinking about Writer's Week a fair bit. Why haven't I been invited?
00:55:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're an excellent writer, right, Well.
00:55:22
Speaker 19: You know, maybe I haven't written anything interesting in the last fifty two years, but I don't think there was an odd deliver.
00:55:30
Speaker 4: No, maybe you haven't written anything that all of the people who normally go to it agree with exactly exactly.
00:55:36
Speaker 19: Have been thinking about Writer's Week and the fact that it's not going It's obviously not going ahead this year, Yes, not going ahead this year, but next year and you know, it could quite easily disappear up its own clacker and ninety nine point five percent of the Adelaide and South Australian population wouldn't miss it at all. I was talking to a government well a government minister about this and this is this is give you a little bit of a reflection in the government because this thing has you know, worried them come to that in the moment, but they said more people have vastly more people applied for a ballot for the opening day of the Aquatic Center than attended Writers Week, and they have to pay Writers Week's free, so what I would call and maybe a lot of people go to Writers Week, maybe there's a overlap they're also going to the aquatic Center. This person was also amazed when I pressed them on the fact that why are they charging people who won a ballot for the first day to go to the aquatic center. Why isn't it free to watch this space? But so that's sort of the thinking in terms of putting it in perspective. You know, I know it's been I don't think it's been a storm and a teak up. I think there's some very big issues that come out of the sacking of the Palestinian pro Palestinian writer Louis Adler's resignation. But the government knew this was coming one way or another. The government knew this was coming before BONDI, So Peter mal Nauskus knew that this was something the government was going to have to have a position on because the board had decided to.
00:57:24
Speaker 12: Not have.
00:57:26
Speaker 19: They didn't want Dr Rater on the program. Louise Adler defied them and.
00:57:33
Speaker 4: This was in my last year. Yeah, so this now we're going to the board. We're going to try to sack it. Yeah, they got Crown more advice and we told them they couldn't.
00:57:40
Speaker 7: So the board.
00:57:41
Speaker 19: You know, one of the questions I've put to government. People have been talking about this is, look, why don't you do a root and branch review of the board. Why don't you just go through them, you know, not just this board and the previous board, but the governance of the Adelaide Festival and Writers Week. And they said, well, they did it, but they did their own comprehensive one and that was one of the findings from it. So they knew this particular train was sort of careering down the tracks. And then Bondi happened, and you know, Bondai changed a lot of things for the government because it had to have a position or what's our position going to be on this? Are we're just going to ignore it or are we going to confront it? And I think I'm fairly safe in saying that the Premier is thinking was well, I either one way or another we've got to take a stand on this, okay. So I either take a stand that doesn't align with my principles and then I'll have to defend it, or I take a stand that does align with my principles or my current thinking, and I have to defend it. And it's a lot easier to defend something that you genuinely feel and you know you've thought through then something that you're defending when it's like an alb and easy defense, where it ends up being a total mess for you because it's indefensible.
00:59:00
Speaker 4: I don't think Maley did this for political reasons, but there are political repercussions from it, and I'd love to hear your thoughts, Matt, because I struggle to see what the political downside is for him out of this. If you think about it, the type of people who go to Writers Week, they are all overwhelmingly skew green left.
00:59:21
Speaker 19: They do, now, don't they?
00:59:23
Speaker 3: Yeah?
00:59:23
Speaker 19: I mean you're not going now to see the colin Colleen McCulloch's John Updyke. Yeah, Thomas Knneely's Alan Ginsbury.
00:59:33
Speaker 4: It needs to be much more diverse line.
00:59:35
Speaker 19: It's more the duller Rati, now, isn't it?
00:59:40
Speaker 4: But don't you think if these people are angry at Malanowskers, they're not going to suddenly start voting.
00:59:45
Speaker 19: Liberal and got nowhere to go.
00:59:46
Speaker 4: They might leave labor. They might they might be labor left type people who go bagger out. I'm never voting labor and I'm going to vote for the Greens. Well, those votes come back via preferences.
00:59:58
Speaker 19: But I can't see look downside, apart from the fact that there's probably a distraction from a run up to election campaign, but I can't see, you know, politically, I don't think he's burnt capital here.
01:00:10
Speaker 4: We have had dozens and dozens of texts though from people saying I'm traditionally a liberal supporter, and I am really impressed that Malanowskis has stood up as a matter of principle. I'm sick of seeing the tax dollars being wasted on these festivals where people get together to agree with each other about all of their pet causes. I think the biggest distraction from all of this has been poor old Ashton Hern trying to get some oxygen again the sixth week of her leadership and between BONDI and this's what's been your most memorable Ashton hern moment of January.
01:00:46
Speaker 19: Well, the fact that somebody inside, apparently inside the Liberal teams leaking against is the main story coming out of the Liberal pre election campaign at the moment. But one of the things I've read Luise Adler's piece in The Guardian after she quit in high dudgeon, the one paragraph really stood out to me, which sort of encapsulates to me that the angs here, I suppose she says, increasingly extreme and repressive efforts of pro Israel lobbyists to stifle even the mildest criticism has had a chilling effect on free speech and democratic institutions. The new mantra Bondai changed everything, and she's got that in inverted comets has offered this lobby, its stenographers in the media and a spineless political class yet another coercive weapon. Hence, in twenty twenty six the board and an atmosphere of intense political pressure has issued needed that an author is to be canceled. The thing that really stood out to me is that phrase Bondai changed everything, because this is something that particularly the pro Palestinian left is having trouble coming to terms with, because it can't be business as usual after BONDI if you get people massacred at a peaceful event on a beach in Australia, in Sydney, it can't be business as usual again. You can't say, oh, well, this is the mantra of these stenographers in the media and a spineless political class. Well, I think that our political class has shown a lot of spine here in South Australia, and the Premier is shown a lot of spine. He didn't have to take a stand on this, and I think his stance and I'm not saying Louis Adler isn't a genuine and intelligent and passionate advocate of free speech. I'm not saying that at all. And the Premier supports Writers Week, you know, because the government could defund Writers Week, Like if they have a successful guerrilla Writers Week this year, the government will quite easily say oh okay, well you can have one next year too. You can pay for right a week.
01:03:01
Speaker 4: Well they do want public money for the gorilla one, do they?
01:03:04
Speaker 3: That's right? Well, you know, I did love all these good luck with that outspoken left is suddenly sending like Elon Musk on free speech. By the way too, I thought that was one of the most comical moments in the entire thing. Hey, let's take a quick break.
01:03:16
Speaker 2: David Penberthy and Wild Goodings five double a Breakfast joining.
01:03:20
Speaker 3: The studio by Matt Abraham watching on Facebook or the YouTube live stream the first time in twenty twenty six. Matt, we are a couple of months out from the state election. What's your assessment of how it's played out to this point in time and what's the next sort of big moment that's coming up.
01:03:38
Speaker 19: Well, I think I don't think we'll hear anything more from the government about Writers we know until after the election, which I think the government will win handsomely. It may win the Upper House as well. It's something really worth looking at. It's if it's a two party preferred or a primary vote, it stays as high as it is, we might see for the first time in a long time, controlling both houses after the election, though I do think just quickly, I don't think the government will have finished with Writers Week or the Adelaide Festival. We will have the Bell Royal Commission into Anti Semitism, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if the government refers, because governments can do this, but officially refers the Royal Commission to look into the impact of the cultural sector festivals on Australian attitudes towards the Jews, towards Zionus, towards Israel, towards anti Semitism, and that would be so we may be operating by the time the next Writer's Festival come around in a very different environment, you know, in terms of hate speech laws and a whole lot of other things. So put that aside. That's off the agenda for the government as they try and focus on this. I was actually having a look at the pendulum last night and also Anthony Green's breakdown, and you forget how messy the scene is, particularly for the Liberals, but it's going to be a messy state election. Actually on my pendulum, I've had to put a couple of little notes. There's not a lot of space there, so I just put J for jail for one former independents, the seat of mac Gambia's vacant. Another. I was just going to put AB for Ankle Bracelet who's hasn't resigned. That's Nick McBride and McKillop.
01:05:29
Speaker 3: You've got.
01:05:31
Speaker 19: Dan Cregan's who's retiring so that seats up for grabs. You've got bone running in Nord of listening driving in. I don't know why he didn't pick a seat that would possibly be winnable as an independent with.
01:05:48
Speaker 4: God bless him.
01:05:52
Speaker 19: I don't know why he's doing or why wouldn't stand for the Upper House actually probably have a chance of getting a quote a bit. I don't think that'll anywhere in Dunstan formerly Norwood. So certainly for the Liberals it's messy and there have been.
01:06:10
Speaker 3: Leaks.
01:06:11
Speaker 19: We don't know where these are coming from, but the Moniker it's a proton email so you can't trace it a source, but it's Ashton's circus. It comes through as Ashton Circus, which is a play obviously on Ashton's surname, and it has been leaking Shadow Cabinet documents. So I've been about four emails so far, three or four emails, and they've flagged an event that's coming up today, that sort of stuff. I don't know who's doing it. I don't know if it's just some rogue person in Parliament House who's not connected to a party but just hate the Liberals, or it's a disaffected Liberal, or it's part of the labor dirt unit. I sort of doubt that that's very high risk for the labor part, very high.
01:06:58
Speaker 4: It seems to be too much genuine Liberal Party material in it for it to be a labor person.
01:07:04
Speaker 19: Yeah, I agree, unless somebody's the world's worst photocopy clark like you've got to doesn't.
01:07:11
Speaker 4: Politics just attract total miscreants? Sitting in his mum's attic sending these emails?
01:07:19
Speaker 3: I just asked, who in the Liberal Party right now is a staffer working for a politician who feels as though the member they work for is so confident that they're going to remain in politics after the next election that they would seek to undermine Ashton Hearn. That must be one of what two people you are undermining to put yourself on the unemployment line. It is the most stupid undermining I've heard in my life.
01:07:45
Speaker 4: With polling showing they might hold three seats lucky.
01:07:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, who's so confident? You could probably whittle it down pretty quickly. I would have thought, do you reckon?
01:07:52
Speaker 4: The Other part of this is every single time Actionon Hearn releases a policy, it feels like the Malanowskis government has got about twenty seven highly paid ex journo media advisors on standby to kick it to death about it, like they just go so hard, like the limbs have basically got like who they got Ben Avery get there?
01:08:18
Speaker 3: Ye left, They've got like two people.
01:08:24
Speaker 4: So every time they put something out labor And this is the benefit of incumbency. In opposition, you rant about, oh the government spin unit. The moment you get in a government, you don't just keep the spin unit, you expand it. But it's it's like this sort of full court press where they deployed dozens, literally dozens of people to gang up on the staff of two sitting on a fold out table from Bunnings and the bowels of North Terrace.
01:08:50
Speaker 3: Exactly what happens.
01:08:52
Speaker 19: And actually, if you add up in government and you know throughout government there are hundreds of spin doctors. There are hundreds in every you know, the Department of Health.
01:09:02
Speaker 4: Have you still got your contact book map from the Bannon era?
01:09:06
Speaker 3: Yes?
01:09:06
Speaker 10: Yes?
01:09:07
Speaker 4: How many press sex did Bannon have?
01:09:09
Speaker 3: Uh?
01:09:11
Speaker 19: He had Mike Ran, he had Jill Botrull. This is in opposition or in government.
01:09:15
Speaker 4: When he became premier. When Bannon became premier, so that in the nine eighties.
01:09:20
Speaker 19: In his office. I think it was it was two people. Three yeah, yeah, two two, there were two and a strange guy who carried an old leather kit bag who organized a center I know that was with Bannon, organized a center left. I never knew what he did. That guy, you know, one of the old Sullivan's eras kit bags, the the other ones you know people used to have it on there. Well yeah, well, but apparently that's what he did with Ran. I think Rand had two press sex. But Rand didn't need more press sex because he was a manic spint on me.
01:09:51
Speaker 3: He got it when I was in my brief period of politics. The press Corps then was Channel Ten's political reporter was Adam Todd. Channel nine's was Tom Richardson. The chief political reporter at the Advertiser was Dan Wills. The chief political reporter at the ABC was Nick Harmson. Every single one of them works in Mally's office.
01:10:12
Speaker 10: Now.
01:10:12
Speaker 3: The only person who didn't was Mike Smithson.
01:10:14
Speaker 19: But smith smart.
01:10:22
Speaker 15: That's right.
01:10:25
Speaker 3: We're at about four minutes away from President National is making some kind of public statement about the coalition in this array. What's your expectation of what's going to happen.
01:10:32
Speaker 19: Well, I think Susan Lee will not be leader for much longer. Surely she can't be like, you know, what is it the first time the coalition that implodes is understandable the second time. So this is the second basically bust up of the coalition. So we'll cease to exist. The one nation vote sitting above the coalition vote for the first time.
01:10:59
Speaker 4: David Little Proudville, the Liz Taylor and Richard Burton.
01:11:02
Speaker 3: Of politics come back.
01:11:07
Speaker 19: One nation maybe interesting in South Australia, but I don't know where that's going. But and the coalition instability will not be helping the South Australian Liberals either. I do think there's a wash through on that.
01:11:19
Speaker 3: Sarah Games decision to leave the party because the branding was holding her backs aged like milk, isn't it.
01:11:25
Speaker 19: Yeah, that was a good move here.
01:11:28
Speaker 4: Bone get her out of trouble.
01:11:29
Speaker 3: That's not a problem there, Matt, Yes, spin, Yes, we need some spin, don't we.
01:11:37
Speaker 12: Yeah.
01:11:37
Speaker 3: I'm going to find my spin button. Haven't pushed it in a while anyway. Can you start talking.
01:11:45
Speaker 19: Let's let's start with Premier Peter Malinowskers and they got.
01:11:55
Speaker 3: Machine.
01:11:57
Speaker 19: Let's start with Premier Peter Malonawskus when he was whether he would say the sorry word.
01:12:04
Speaker 4: Well, the facts have now been proven and my principles haven't changed.
01:12:08
Speaker 14: Now, if other people are changing their position, that's for them to explain.
01:12:11
Speaker 4: But I won't do.
01:12:15
Speaker 3: Me what for.
01:12:18
Speaker 9: I'm not sure what for.
01:12:21
Speaker 4: I don't say that bulligiingly, I just don't know what for.
01:12:26
Speaker 19: Apology well me, I mean that's a zero spin. As we know Donald Trump's going to invade Greenland.
01:12:44
Speaker 4: It's just he's not.
01:12:46
Speaker 7: I don't tell me that it's changing.
01:12:50
Speaker 19: He's thank Evans. A share portfolio will be restored sometime later.
01:12:55
Speaker 3: Today graduations bounce back. But anyway, this is well.
01:12:59
Speaker 19: I thought it was the Norwegian prime minister speaking about Donald Trump, but it actually turns out to be somebody called Perno Harland.
01:13:08
Speaker 20: Okay, I just got a little text message from Trump Lambert, and he is not very happy. He's not interested in purely peace anymore, No, because he didn't get the Nobel Peace Price, so diplomacy now is just a participation trophy problem. He also writes he doesn't feel obligated to just think about peace. No, now he's just going to think about the United States of America. So he's basically saying he's a mad dog. Let off the leash. He then writes that he is seeking total control of Greenland. He should seek a brain scan. This guy thinks he's playing monopoly. I mean, I only have one thing to say, and that is.
01:13:53
Speaker 3: Well say that.
01:13:54
Speaker 19: Well, yes we can, because producer m Backbar tells me that's one of the favorite words, and it's careful.
01:14:02
Speaker 3: She's got a lot of favorite words. We can't say.
01:14:04
Speaker 21: I know well apparently, but it wouldn't melt in my mouth, but it just means oh dear, Okay, yeah, apparently Ignora.
01:14:17
Speaker 4: Thought so that's allegian.
01:14:18
Speaker 19: That's a comedian, by the way, doing a send up at an awegind promise Trump.
01:14:26
Speaker 7: I'll give him seven out of ten.
01:14:32
Speaker 3: Could have your back, matte.
01:14:33
Speaker 7: It should be the word of the year.
01:14:35
Speaker 2: Leave David Penberthy and Will Gooding's five double a breakfast.
01:14:39
Speaker 3: No, but it's after right, breaking ay coming up in just a moment, big hour ahead, breaking news as we speak. In fact, the Nationals leader David little Prowder is just front of a press conference in Canberra. He's a little bit of what he had to say.
01:14:53
Speaker 4: The National Party acted in good faith all the way along.
01:14:56
Speaker 5: We acted in good faith to get.
01:14:57
Speaker 4: To this position, but we could not be four interviting for a position.
01:15:02
Speaker 22: The National Party is our own sovereign party and Susan Lee cannot force us to vote one way or another.
01:15:08
Speaker 3: And when we have not.
01:15:09
Speaker 22: Breached any process, any procedure of the coalition, we've been respectful for then to get to a position where three of our senders, who in shadow kibnet spots, are being asked to resign.
01:15:23
Speaker 3: You heard a little bit of it there, but scathing Kevin Hogan, the Deputy Nationals leader, and David Little proud of Susan Lee, describing her role in this as mismanagement, real question marks around the viability of the coalition. It would appear to be being read its last rights as we speak, in fact, which leads us neatly into breaking it open.
01:15:46
Speaker 4: Well to discuss further what is very much a moving situation with the coalition and the future of the relationship between the Liberal and National parties, we're joined by one to South Australia's most senior and prominent Liberal Party voices, Conservative Senator Alex Antik is on the line now. Alex good morning, and thank you for your time. Asking you to give a real time praisy of where things are at might be putting you on the spot in a particularly cruel fashion. But can I ask you winding back, given the amount of criticism that Anthony Albanezi was facing post Bondi over his handling of everything from hate preachers to immigration, isis brides, what have you? How is it that the Coalition has ended up being the party the two parties that are now suffering the most politically from all of this.
01:16:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, good question, and a briefer one I think. I mean this was you know, people were rightly asking the question of the plot, what are you doing to the hand of the situation? And somehow that's swung around to this giant it's a kind of issue that's now facing us. So look, that should never have happened. In my view, the very simple way of avoiding that would have been to simply vote no to the original omnibus bill, the one that's covered over about four different sections of life and represented something like a twenty five year high point in terms of changes to our entire system. It's very simple. I mean, there was no time to consider it. And somehow there has been a decision made which gave us this sort of half way house, which turned a diabolical bill into a terrible one, and here we are talking about ourselves again. It's just incredibly frustrating. And look, I haven't caught up with what David has said. These are all matters for the Nationals. But the Nationals joined me and crossed the floor to vote against the hate group's bill is probably the better way of putting it, and so they should have. It was terrible war. It is terrible war and they shouldn't be punished for that.
01:18:00
Speaker 4: When you look at it in the broader context, with the surge and support for one Nation, do you think that the Liberals are suffering from a lack of clarity around their messaging on issues that people are genuinely energized by, such as immigration.
01:18:18
Speaker 5: Well, Pembo, I mean, you know, far beat from me to point out that I'm right once again. But I'm right once again and two years ago, and I think I copped them. I don't really listen to most of it, but I copped a bit of a spray from the media. Here an essay about a preselection speech where I said to the pre selectors of the Liberal Party that one nation we're breathing down our throat because of the manner in which we go about politics and the fact that we're not dealing with common sense Australia, and that got me heavily criticized for being alarmist. I think one Nation in essay or polling somewhere between eleven and sixteenth didn't quite flush out during the federal election, but still they're now polling, according to the news Pole at twenty because they're showing the blueprint for where the Liberal Party should be. I mean, too long this party has been controlled by the managerial class and not pugilistic politicians who take the fight up like Pauline does. Frankly. I mean, you know, she's not everyone's cup of tea, but she seems to be resonating. And by the way, we're not talking about someone with a political science decree. We're not talking about some plucky twenty five year old political staffer that came up through the ranks. We're talking about a lady that ran a fish and chip shop. So this nonsense that politics is science and science is politics has got to stop. The analysis paralysis is over I think that's what happened in Campbell. I think during the week, I think that the sensible position was just simply to reject this bill on a range of levels. Hadn't had enough time that was one option. Terrible war that was another option. But somehow we chose the middle door and went straight through the cabinet into Narnia.
01:19:50
Speaker 3: The case you make about the attractiveness of Pauline Hanson and One Nation Senator is the one that some nationals are contemplating when it comes to their future political allegiance, and theres reports that there are others that are either actively or maybe day dreaming about a switch to One Nation. You're saying that should be the blueprint for the Liberal Party into the future. Is it something you've contemplated. No, no, it's not.
01:20:14
Speaker 5: I mean, as you well know, and as we've all talked about, my vision for the political future of this date was to bring common sense people back into politics. We've been doing that for five years in the Liberal Party and we've got a membership that now I think reflects common sense Australia. And so that's what I think works, because ultimately you need to have a democratic organization that does its pre selection properly and pre select the right candidate. The problem has been that politics has been tending people to Canberra, and this is the point I was trying to illustrate there for too long, through the Labor Party, through the union movement, and almost everybody in both Parliament has just been a trade unionist or a political staff now and this is what you get, you know, if you're not like I mean, this was blatantly obviously. Aside from the fact that voting no to this bill as I did was the right thing to do, it was plainly obvious to me from the conversations that I've been having and what I was seeing online, by the way, on platforms like X that people didn't want this. And look at what's happened. We were inundated yesterday with people ringing in the office and saying thank you. Now, that's not the purpose of this, but there's just sort of this inability in some ranks of politics to put the ear to the ground and feel the vibrations, and you know, focused groups of polling don't do that. That needs to stay away from politics in the future if we're to have any other We've just.
01:21:28
Speaker 3: Been sent a little bit more of David Little proud to what he had to say. Let's have a listen.
01:21:32
Speaker 22: She will not, and from subsect conversations, will not reinstate those three senators to the shadow cabinet positions. Therefore the entire ministry resigned. But she has also forced the coalition into an untenable position that can no longer continue.
01:21:49
Speaker 3: The coalition is untenable and cannot continue. What's your reaction to that, Alex Well, it.
01:21:55
Speaker 5: Feels like groundhog Day, doesn't We dealt with this earlier in the year. And Look, I mean I understand the frustrat. I hope that's not right by the way. I hope there's a way through that, obviously. I mean, I don't think there's much chance for either side of governing if the coalition does evaporate, and so something's got to happen, Something's got to change. We need, you know, we need leadership to step up and arrest the slide. I mean, this is you know, this is getting critical.
01:22:19
Speaker 4: Just finally, Sendada Antick. Do you think Susan League can or indeed should survive as later?
01:22:26
Speaker 5: Look, I you know, as you know, I don't like to drift into political yabbering, but I mean that genuinely is a matter of the party room. I don't know, I don't know. I think this has been a very bad week for us all, and you know that always has to have a bearing on leadership aspirations for better or worse. So look, we'll see where it goes. I don't know really what the future holds now, but you know, it's a bad week. We've had four news polls in a row.
01:22:53
Speaker 2: Now.
01:22:53
Speaker 5: It used to be the case that leaders lived and died on the basis of one, so I'm not suggesting that's what's to happen here, but it's a pretty dark hour.
01:23:03
Speaker 4: Senator alexanderik South, Australian Liberal senator, thank you for joining us this morning. Tell you what that last chance is about? Is Luke warm as an artissement.
01:23:15
Speaker 3: Coupled with his second last answer about you know, these things require strong leadership. I think it's clear and I don't think he would be an orphan with those thoughts at the moment. I think most rank and file Liberal voters out there right now recognize there is a critical shortage of leadership and there needs to be a change. I think we've just reached that point.
01:23:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the level of frustration coming through from those listeners who are among the number who are traditional conservative supporters. I think that the word despair doesn't even come close to describing how they're all feeling at the moment. We pushed our other original breaking at eight back amazing developments within the notorious CFMU, the militant Construction Union and it's Victimorian leadership with a sudden resignation yesterday of Zack Smith, who is the Melbourne based was the Melbourne based secretary of the Construction Union. Why does that matter here in Adelaide, Well, it matters because of the South Australian CFMU, since its takeover by John Seca a few years ago, is still run out of Victoria. What does this mean for the local building industry and for people working in construction. We've got Will Frogley, the see of the Master Builders on the line. Now, well, this is total chaos and doesn't it show the need for us to have our own locally run CFMU rather than it being run by the much rattier branch over the border.
01:24:47
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:24:48
Speaker 10: Absolutely.
01:24:48
Speaker 23: David the administrator said quite a while ago that he wanted South Australia to be a standalone branch free from Victorian influence. But we're all waiting for that day to happen. Zack Smith's resignateation Yesterday's met more chaos and dysfunction from the Victorian CFMU. You know, this is a man who ignored the administrator's instructions not to meet with organized crime figures. We've also seen the head of the Victorian cfmu's redundancy fund inco Link, resigned recently. So look, I don't think they're ever going to be able to withstand the pressure of the new environment. The Victorian CFMU was able to do whatever the hell they wanted for a long time and it's a very difficult organization to reform the Victorian construction industry. As you said, he's absolutely notorious for its high insolvency rate. It's corruption and it's links to organized crime.
01:25:37
Speaker 5: And that's why a few.
01:25:38
Speaker 23: Years ago we're very public about our concerns about the Victorian CFMU taking over the South Australian construction industry. And I guess you know a few years later, as a proud South Australian, my heart really swells with pride. But we as a state have emphatically rejected the Victorian CFMU and what they stand for, you know, the criminal behavioritizing of Victorian businesses and workers over our own and sending money to Victoria. They were very arrogant when they came in, David. They thought they could just do whatever the hell they wanted here as well, and we would just be a pushover. One of the very first things that Victorian CFMU did when they took over the South Australian branch was try and quietly move all their insurance work out of Adelaide to an office the office of a broker in Melbourne. In Melbourne who pays tens of millions of dollars a year to the Victorian cfmu's redundancy fund, income Link and Incolink, as we've discussed before, gives millions and millions and millions of dollars to Victorian CFMU every year. At worst of all that the CFMU didn't advise South Australian workers or employers of these changes to their insurance setup. So for quite a few months, South Australian workers and employers had no idea that the workers were left uninsured. They had no income protection insurance Now that was a really low act and I think word got around the industry pretty quickly, and I'm sure that's why Incolink has failed to gain any traction here in CFMU memberships plummeted.
01:27:03
Speaker 4: Just finally, will is the cfmei u's structure, its internal structure going to how states are run a matter solely for the union or is there a role for the state government, particularly given labour's historic links to the labor movement, to intervene and say that as a matter of principle, South Australian construction workers should be represented by a locally managed and operated union.
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Speaker 23: I think the state government wouldn't have the power to do that, but I think the administrator certainly has. The fact is that the CFMU has very little support in South Australia, and that's why we've got a record number of construction workers in South Australia, a record number of construction businesses and a record value of work done.
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Speaker 24: So.
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Speaker 23: Having said that workers do need a reputable union, but.
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Speaker 4: They particularly need it, they say, don't they on the big jobs where you've got the multiplexes and so on, who for whatever reason feel pressured or obliged to cut deals with the CFMAU as per the big building going up at the Central Market and so forth.
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Speaker 23: Look at Masters, I say, we just won't deal with the CFMAU until they run by South strains who actually have some pride in the state and are reputable and not just pushing a pro Victorian agenda. Look, some people will say to me, David, I look, will you have to cut deals with them? You have to have relationships with them. But that's easy for people to stay from the sidelines. The fact is, if you're having a good relationship with the Victorians CFMU and you're cutting deals with them, there's a decent chance you're doing something illegal and that's just not a parth I'm going to go down.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:28:33
Speaker 4: Absolutely, history would suggest as much. Will Frangly to see I have the Master Builders Association.
01:28:38
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast.
01:28:43
Speaker 3: Twenty seven after eight in the lead up to what is going to be a scorching hot Australia Day Long weekend this weekend, we're celebrating incredible local SA seafood that we all know and love. This is going to be a lot of fun. On Friday morning, Ned McHenry will be bringing his freshest catch to the five double A kitchen and you're going to be looking up a secret dish with him. This is going to be a lot of fun. You can watch it along on the Facebook and YouTube live stream.
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Speaker 4: You know how, I've got a one man war against the term foodie.
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Speaker 3: I had that term.
01:29:09
Speaker 4: It's an elitist term. It makes it sound like food is something that is by definition pretentious, expensive, that it's all about showing off in a very anti food fashion. I am going to do a super simple, super cheap recipe that treats our excellent local seafood with the utmost respect. And it's a Rick Stein recipe and he gave me off the top of his head in this very studio about twelve years ago.
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Speaker 3: Well, you can watch it all on the live stream tomorrow, Facebook and YouTube and it's all thanks to brand Essay, support Local and by the best by SA Seafood. Just recapping the breaking news of the last thirty minutes. The coalition is no more. The Nationals leader David little Proud said the Nationals cannot be part of a shadow ministry under Susan Lee and that the party will sit by ourselves in the Parliament. He was asked a follow up question by a journalist. He said, is that a threat? And David little Proud said no, it's done. He said, I rang her about half an hour ago, told her that the party room's decision was final, that unless those three senators were reinstated immediately, that she had forced the coalition into an untenable position.
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Speaker 4: Unmitigated disaster. Is the vibe on the text line. A lot of messages too about the surge in One Nation people such as Andrew saying things like this, the One Nation Party is now the party for conservative voters due to what's been a weak opposition for a long time. I would expect the numbers to rise even further after this one here is saying what's wrong with the Libs? They clearly should have voted known to this. Jane on the other hand, can't believe it and says crikey, I'd never be desperate enough to vote One Nation, and Ian, quoting Oscar Wilde, says the second implosion of the Liberals is carelessness. Thank you for that, ye.
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Speaker 3: Susan Lee's believes a statement two in which she says, look, why are we doing this? Today it should be the national day of morning and on that front, the Prime Minister is currently conducting a press conference in Canberra. We will be talking more about that on the other side of five double A News and certainly taking more of your feedback on what is extraordinary day in Australian politics. Eight double two three double O double as the number you can text us on zero before eight zero Waight thirty ninety five David.
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Speaker 2: Penberthie and Will Goodings five double A Breakfast.
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Speaker 3: Twenty minutes to nine. It's the most anticipated bed smell in South Australia. Smelling e the corpse flower the Botanic Gardens still hasn't still hasn't flowered. We're going to find out why. We'll be speaking with an expert before nine o'clock. This might part of the issues. It's still growing. Apparently it's a stopped growing before it flowers. And they go in a measure it in the morning and I grew another centimeter. Does it grow that fast? It's like it's the equivalent of the groundhog. I think you know people wait, it's going to see a shadow?
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Speaker 4: Is that a job that you cover or you'd be repulsed by being in charge of measuring the corpse.
01:31:52
Speaker 3: Flat an infamously smelly plant.
01:31:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, does it smell when it's not flowering? All these and other questions.
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Speaker 3: Will be able.
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Speaker 4: We will find out more getting Ready'd love to hear from our listeners. What's your Saturday strategy, folks? How are you going to How are you going to deal with the forty two degrees? There's not so much that it's just Saturday. It's the entire weekend. I mean, Sunday's barely any major respite from it, and then we're back in it again on Monday with forty one.
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Speaker 3: But where are you going? What are you doing? It's Monday night into Tuesday morning that I'm least looking forward to out of the whole thing.
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Speaker 4: Oh, there's going to be some tired, smelly kids being picked up Tuesday afternoon from the first.
01:32:27
Speaker 3: Day twenty eight the overnight low having come out of a period of forty two thirty four forty on Tuesday twenty eighty low.
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Speaker 4: All of ourses are going to be like pizza ovens, folks.
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Speaker 3: It's going to be a if you do have a good strategy for dealing with it, We're all e is this morning eight double two three double O, double oh is the number. Today is a national day of Morning to honor the victims and all those impacted by the Bondi Beach terrorist attack. The government have put out some recommendations about how you might like to mark the occasion, including leaving a candle on your doorstep or window. There will be a moment a minute silence at six thirty one Adelaide Time tonight. Norman Schuler is the from the Jewish Community Council of South Australia and joins us now Norm good morning to.
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Speaker 13: You, Good morning David, and good morning Will and one into all five double A listeners.
01:33:22
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, Norman. How is your community getting on barely five weeks after the terrible events in Bonbai.
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Speaker 13: It's learning to survive and that there will be another day. Those images of that we have in our minds for what took place at Onondai will never be raised from our minds. Certain individuals there that were murdered, well it beg us believe that that could happen in Australia, over civilized country, and well it's paramount in our minds. We've got to get on and we've got to make Australia a better place for all Australians.
01:34:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I think rightfully.
01:34:13
Speaker 3: I imagine the community would feel let down by the powers that be, by the representatives and the federal government. Is there any sense that the community has been let down in the aftermath by the broader Australian community.
01:34:26
Speaker 13: Well, it was let down right from let us say October the ninth, sure, when we were displaced at the Opera House.
01:34:35
Speaker 5: The fore court of the Opera House.
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Speaker 13: Opera House was lit up in blue and white and the Australian a Jewish community, the New Southwest Jewish community were having a vigils. They were told to leave by the police because they felt they could not defend them against the number of Palestinians coming there. That is intrinsically wrong, that should never have happened. The police needed to bring in reinforcement or bringing in the army, whatever it may be. From then on it was downhill. You had the preachers in the streets preaching hatred, preaching death. They were talking about that was broadcast right around the country. The media were broadcast in the fellow in Sydney were behind so is a Jew and he must be killed and that is that that sort of thing should have not been allowed to occur. And that is now what I think has been fixed to a certain extent in Parliament yesterday, and the organizations like his Buttoria and Neonatis have been prescribed. And these are organizations that pedal hate that's so division and promote Rachel Willow racial versification.
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Speaker 16: And.
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Speaker 13: This is totally un Australian people come to Australia to get away from something, they want to better their lives. This is not the as it's very shortly, it'll be sixty years since I've been here in a couple of months time, and when I've when I first came, when I the cohesive community, there are certain things parts of that, but of course my minor negatives. But we didn't have these enormous outpourings of hate and willing death upon certain people.
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Speaker 4: Normal for people who do want to make some sort of gesture and solidarity with Australia's Jewish community, and more broadly, the fact that this was an outrage to all Australians who value peace and human human respect and dignity. What's what's what sort of things can we do tonight? What's the what's the format for this commemoration.
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Speaker 13: The commemoration will be both a priest and a rabbi leading prayers together in Saint Peter's Church in North Adelaide.
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Speaker 2: And.
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Speaker 13: There obviously will be a candle lit. The government has suggested that people will light a candle this evening at home, put it in their doorway or their window and you may recollect. On a previous interview with you post BONDI I said to on every interview that I did, please when you go home tonight, light a candle in the sanctity of your own home, and just to think about the people who can't do that right at the moment, and the families that are suffering, and the people who sent me photographs of them doing that. It was heartwarming. And since then, since Bonde, then the outpouring of understanding and sympathy from many Australians really really heartwarming.
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Speaker 4: No, I'm sure the head of the Jewish Community Council obviously out Australia, thank you for joining us this morning, Thanks for having me. A lot of good texts coming through with suggestions, will we put the call out earlier? How are you going to deal with the heat over the weekend, I'll tell you what Spira thought for Die. She says, we're on Nankeita Road at Mount Compass, so we'll be spending a very nervous weekend. How Sprinkler's going. Andrew says, I'll be staying inside, having a few beers with the air conditioner and the tennis on. Sounds like a good strategy, Jackie. I'll be walking the dog at six am. I'll be home by six thirty am, trying to keep the garden and the humans alive. Helen simply says our great mate, Helen and Glennell North. He says, easy, I'm doing bugger all.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good strategy. Helen and Trish, HARKing back to our comments earlier from our Tarcoola listener, says, I'll be heading to Tarcoola to take advantage of their cool change. A cool change, for those that missed it earlier, was that he dropped in the forecast, says at the top of forty eight. One day a late change comes in and the next day the top is forty five.
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Speaker 2: David Penberthie and World Goodings five double a Breakfast nine minutes to nine.
01:39:43
Speaker 3: An ex guest is one of the best titles I think of any guests we've had on in quite some time. Matt Coulter is the horticultural curator for Plant Propagation, joining us on five double A Breakfast to talk about Smelanie smell Anye by name, but not yet by Natu're waiting for the corpse flower to flower. Matt, good morning to.
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Speaker 24: You, Good morning, how are you going?
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Speaker 3: We actually wanted to clarify that does it smell before it flowers?
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Speaker 24: No, so it's only for the two day period that it opened, so there's no smell domain. But yet the time when it actually starts to open, when the smell is start produced and it will be over a two day period then be finished, so it's quite a quick time that it happens.
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Speaker 4: So, Matt, the reason that the that the flour produces this this stench is it a pollination strategy to attract insects Exactly.
01:40:29
Speaker 5: It's all about pollination.
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Speaker 24: So the plant has both male and female flowers on it, but it doesn't it can't pollinate itself, so it's evolved so it actually doesn't inbreed, so basically to get the pollen from a different flower to come into it, it actually has this smell, so it engages the insect for and there might be somewhere it might they eggs on the carcass thing as dead animal. So it will go out into the forest and I'll go on one flower and then come to the other flower, and then the pollen gets dispersed that way.
01:40:57
Speaker 5: So it's any way it.
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Speaker 24: Can get pollinated, and you have to think like you can grow. It can take anywhere up to ten years to get the get the first flower and it's only got that one night. They can get polinated. It puts all this energy into it to actually make sure it happens.
01:41:12
Speaker 4: It's just the most incredible plant, is it? What sort of plant is it?
01:41:15
Speaker 15: Is it?
01:41:16
Speaker 4: Is it a bromeliad?
01:41:17
Speaker 10: What is it?
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Speaker 12: Now?
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Speaker 24: It's what we call an aroid So it's in the people may know things like madonna lilies or philodendron, so it's in that aroid plant family. So yeah, it's basically a tropical plant family. There's a couple that occur in northern Australia, a couple of species, but yeah, generally it's in Asia and through to Africa. But this plant is endemic to sematra. Any place in the world that it occurs. And now, as you said, yeah, it's quite an amazing plant and it's quite I'm really fascinated by it, and I think people are as well.
01:41:47
Speaker 4: It looks like something out of diaetric. It's a bit, doesn't it.
01:41:50
Speaker 24: It does a bit, doesn't it.
01:41:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't come to life. What sort of crowd are you expecting.
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Speaker 24: Anytime we show We know we're get anywhere between five to tent and people, and you know that could be sometimes planning up for two to three hours. So it's quite amazing to see people interested and people are really fascinated by it because yeah, it's really quite different and because it comes from the tropics in here in South Australia really is the botendent gardens at any place that you would be able to see. This planet can grow in the northern parts of Australia, but in South australa wouldn't grow outside our specialized glasshouses. And we have a nursery up at the Mount Lofty Botannic Guns where we house these plants and when they're ready to floil, that's when we bring them down. So we've got a climate controlled glasshouse to simulate the Martian rainforest.
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Speaker 4: So Is it in the glasshouse in the center of the gardens where the Amazon lallies are.
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Speaker 24: No, it's in the big bi Centennial conservatory, so right, yeah, so it's in that big one. And that's a really good space for people to come to it because as you're sort of moving down the line, you get to see it from quite a distance away. So and then sort of like an anticipation before you get to see an other places show up, you know, you basically just wait outside the glasshouse and you come in and then you go out. So I think the Bisenten con Servage is a really good space to be able to view it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome.
01:43:08
Speaker 4: So the Hackney Road entrance is the one you want to get in there.
01:43:12
Speaker 24: Yeah, the Plane Tree drive and yeah that's correct.
01:43:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, excellent, excellent.
01:43:15
Speaker 24: Well good on you plant though, isn't it?
01:43:17
Speaker 1: Yeah?
01:43:17
Speaker 3: Really?
01:43:19
Speaker 4: How tall is it's?
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Speaker 24: It's the measurement this morning had it. It's over it's about two point one five meters well, and that's and there's another seventy centimeters below that that's the roots and the tuber. So if you put those two together, you know you're looking at something that's like maybe two point eight meters.
01:43:38
Speaker 4: Tour hard to fit it in the green bin. When it's done, it's business.
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Speaker 24: Another amazing thing about when you look at it, like ten weeks ago, all that structure will have been below the soil or all that. Yeah, so that's all happened in the ten week period and in the growth phase that it does in like the two week period of when grew one point two it is in two weeks.
01:44:02
Speaker 3: You stood there long enough, you just about to see it move. That's amazing.
01:44:05
Speaker 24: Yeah, it's really incredible plant.
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Speaker 3: It's amazing. Well, that's why so many thousands of people will turn up to see it. What alfully he does? Flower and smell it? Matt Colter, the Holt Culture Curator for Plant Propagation. You can go and see it the bicy Turn Conservatory. You're right, it looks like it's been dropped off the set from the nineteen seventies William Shatton a Star Trek show. Doesn't it like it's like the low Budge version made out of rubber or something.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we would be fighting something made out of cardboard boxes covered in ol foil. It's just an extraordinary What if it flowers on Saturday? Though? How hot would it be inside the By Centennial Conservatory.
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Speaker 3: You won't smell it because everyone else will smell worse. Let's haven't got the field situation. It's better to be a member with RAA road service Leroy is at Monopara. How about this dollar forty five point nine. That's a great price. BPX Convenience, Elizabeth Down's dollar forty seven point nine and the Yugo West Time Main dollar forty nine point five. The cheapest diesel, the you Goo at West Heine Marsh is pretty cheap as well. Tomorrow, ladies and gentlemen, you're gonna want to stick around wherever you are whatever you're doing to hear David Penbury's take on Rick Stein's famous fish dish. All in the celebration of South Australian Court produce Ned mc henry is going to join us in the studio. You can watch along on the Facebook and YouTube live stream. It's going to be a hell of a lot of fun as we celebrate Australian Seafood South Australian Seafood in the lead up to Australian Day thanks to brand Essay, support local and buy the best buy SA Seafood. We'll catch you tomorrow morning. From six
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Speaker 2: Chris those fairs straight
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Speaker 2: I help you up live from hein Maars Square. It's five double a breakfast, Deepen Ben berthe and wild goodies.
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Speaker 3: Minutes after six. Good morning till you welcome to Thursday and five double a breakfast. The twenty second of January fields like the calm before the storm of hot weather coming this weekend, not one but two days of forty degree maximums in our very near future. It's going to be a scorching hot Australia day long weekend. We'll be talking about that over the course of the morning. We'll get the very latest from the bureau. Who knows we might have another one by the time we get the quarter to seven this morning, we're off to Europe. We'll be chatting with Ben Downey for seven, who is an Davos, Switzerland for the World Economic Forum. Donald Trump has just spoken. We'll play some of what he had to say about Greenland, his ambitions for that Danish state, and more very very shortly also coming up on the program. Late yesterday we got a call from someone who said the trains had been stopped because of a very ugly incident that had taken place out on the line. We learnt subsequent that it was a kid on a scooter that got hit, and the questions have been raised again about the safety of e scooters riding them to school, what the legalities are, and so forth. We're getting too that after seven o'clock today, Matt Abraham is going to be cannot miss radio today. He's always can't miss radio, but today, with the coalition crumbling all around, we'll get some news on that at about eight o'clock this morning, by the way, and indeed a state election campaign that's well and truly up and running at the moment, he is going to be absolutely unmissable. David Penworthy, good morning to you.
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Speaker 4: Good morning Will, Good morning listeners. I hope you're all doing better than Susan Lee is this morning. The coalition is now dead in the water. Every single National Party MP, including the Nationals leader, has said I'm out of here. So it is no more.
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Speaker 3: It's over.
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Speaker 4: It's the end. Great headline on the front of the Ties of this morning, NAT's all, folks, and the trigger for all this is twofold the gun buyback stuff which the NATS blewed about, but more importantly it was the hate speech legislation, where you know, a cynic might say that Labor did an absolutely superb job of wedging the coalition on these issues of freedom of speech, whether the laws went far enough, whether they went.
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Speaker 3: Too far people well, aided by Susan Lee who demanded they come back early for parliament. Yeah, without getting a ducks in a row internally completely.
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Speaker 4: I mean if Conservatives are trying to say, oh, you know this was a trick laid by albow well, crikey, yell fell for it. Didn't you the most obvious sucker punch in the world, But I think it was a trap of their own making too, I think completely. But it's hard to Yeah, you don't have to think too long about why one nation's vote's going up.
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Speaker 3: Well. The other thing is, I think when you talk about the things that led to this the one nation vote, I think is it looms large behind the National's decision making and saw Anthony Green yes thatd I make the observation that if it does bear out at a federal election that one Nation polls twenty percent of the primary vote in large parts of Queensland and in lots of National seats that'll be about forty percent by nation totally. So a big motivating factor I think is that news poll.
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Speaker 4: They'll just rebrand themselves as one nation.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think there might be there may be some defections they certainly well, yeah, exactly. I think there's a lot of that that's currently going on within the Nationals Party. So it's just more tumult for the coalition. Speaking of polls, I saw one of the most extraordinary pole numbers I've ever seen yesterday. Fresh Water put out a pole about Donald Trump in Australia his favorability. This is really interesting. So twenty one percent of people have a favorable view of Donald Trump in Australia. That's down four points from the last time they conduct a poll in mid October. Unfavorable up four to sixty five percent, neutral, unsure thirteen percent. One percent of Australians have never heard of Donald Trump. Never never heard of Donald Trump. And they've got me thinking because I would suggest, surely they had count the rock. Who are these people? Who is the most famous person on planet Earth? Because if you asked me at first, blush, I would say Donald Trump. I bet you could walk into any village in Argentina to Somalia and Russia, and they all know who Donald Trump is. One percent of Australians don't. If it's not him, who is it? Eight double two to three double o doublo? Who is the most famous? Who would be the most famous person on earth? Who could you get one hundred percent name recognition on? I reckon.
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Speaker 4: Ronaldo and MESSI would be out there.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: MESSI was the first that came to mind for me because.
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Speaker 4: They sort of transcend, Yes, nationalities, kids go berserk for.
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Speaker 3: Them, popular in any country in the world.
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Speaker 4: Soweto to Honduras, like everyone, Soccer being the great unifying force.
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Speaker 3: I thought of one that I had to ask you about because you're the expert. Here does Taylor Swift end of the conversation, I think, So, where would you have a black span?
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Speaker 4: Think Africa is her strong suit. Possibly, She's never played a show there, as far as I can gather. She's played shows in Buenos Aires, Mexico City. She's huge in Latin America.
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Speaker 3: I think she had a good recognition in Asia.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Asia, Yeah, big time, Okay, big time.
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Speaker 3: Let's take some suggestions. Who would be the most famous person on Earth? It might be Donald Trump. If you think it is him, who's the second most eight double two to three double o double or Texas on zero before eight zero thirty ninety five. He is making headlines again overnight. Of course, the world economic for him in Dubos in Switzerland, where eventually, in a long speech about NATO, about economic policy and so forth, he got to talking about.
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Speaker 1: Greenland psychologically, who the hell wants to defend a license agreement? All we want from Denmark for national and international security and to keep our very energetic and dangerous potential enemies at bay is this land on which we're going to build the greatest golden dome ever built.
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Speaker 3: He also the one heartening component of the speech, despite not stepping back from the ambition to acquire Greenland. For one of a bit of phrase an X. You might have said, what's upon a time X? He said he won't use force.
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Speaker 1: We probably won't get anything unless I decide to use excessive.
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Speaker 3: Strength and force.
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Speaker 1: But I won't do that because people thought I would use force. I don't have to use force. I don't want to use force. I won't use force.
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Speaker 3: He was doing the full wave. By the way, there was a couple of old moments that people have raised eyebrows at including this one.
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Speaker 1: And then after the war which we won, we want it big without us. Right now, you'd all be speaking German and little Japanese perhaps.
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Speaker 3: Now presumably speaking to the leaders there, because of course Davos in Switzerland native German speakers. Yeah, in Switzerland that the German side speaks German and the French side seeks French, so they're all currently native German speakers. And then he's seemed to have some trouble with Iceland and Greenland at various points Europe.
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Speaker 1: I'm helping NATO, and i've until the last few days when I told him about Iceland. They loved me. They called me daddy right the last time, very smart man said he's our daddy. He's running it.
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Speaker 3: It was like running it.
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Speaker 1: They went from running it to being a terrible human being.
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Speaker 3: So it was it was the full weave. He was on up there for a long long time. It was unscripted.
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Speaker 4: It is this some breakfast show in Ragevic at the moment, trying to work out if it's an accident. All the wants to take Iceland. Now, well, it's certainly a lot less belligerent than some of the scenarios that you've seen written up these sort of fanciful, sort of speculative pieces about, you know, when the US troops land and.
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Speaker 3: What have you.
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Speaker 4: I don't think anyone really thought they were going to.
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Speaker 3: Actually really, but even to use the number of the morning, the one percent chance seems seemed totally extraordinary. But yeah, you're right. There's a heartening element towards this, and that is that maybe this is just a negotiator, This will remain a negotiation.
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Speaker 4: But it is still breathtaking, isn't it. You know, one thing we haven't discussed yet, what does all this mean for Orcus. I mean, you've got the UK out there openly deriding Trump, unabashedly siding with all of the other European NATO countries. You got the consensus from Canada to Anchorer that what Trump's doing is there has absolutely no basis in law. It's arrogant, it's impertinent. It's a terrible way to treat your so called friends. Are we still in this chummy chumming relationship with them?
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Speaker 3: Apparently we are. Presumably we're having conference calls between the UK and US as we speak.
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Speaker 4: Has Penny Wong said anything about it? Has Albo said anything about it. Do we stand with Greenland or do we just go We'll just sit this.
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Speaker 3: Wow we made the Australian made some milk toast statement that was noncommittal either way.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're just trying to sit down here in our little part of the hemisphere and pretend it's not.
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Speaker 3: Really We've gone full antivities on this one. Yeah, that's northern. That's a northern hemisphere from the one percent, I've never heard of Donald Trump on this one. Exactly right. We'll get to some of your suggestions very shortly on the most famous person on planet Earth. That's coming up.
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Speaker 2: David Penberthy and World Goodings five double a breakfast, lots of.
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Speaker 3: Texts coming through on zero four eight, zero eight thirteen ninety five quick roll call of nominations for the most famous person on Earth who could get one hundred percent name recognition if Donald Trump can't In austruct you.
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Speaker 4: I already liked this idea from Rob. This is what you call a poser, an intellectual poser. Rob says, call in now and tell us which famous person.
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Speaker 3: You've never heard of. I like that idea.
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Speaker 4: I like here, Elvis King, Charles, David Attenborough, the Pope when she was alive. Queen Elizabeth, I like that one. Queen Elizabeth.
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Speaker 3: Elizabeth is good.
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Speaker 4: She's the best of all of them. I reckon Michael Jordan. Yeah, quite a few people picking Michael Jordan and one here I thinks the joke, says Barnaby Joyce. He was recognized by every uber driver in Canberra because when they arrive to pick him up, they just look down at the footpath. He's down there somewhere.
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Speaker 3: He is certainly a name that's been brought up a lot in the last twenty four hours with a coalition falling over, and he's defection to one nation and they're surgeon the polls clearly being something of a driving force behind all this. Michael Packi is the national political editor for nine Radio and joins us on what looms as a massive day in federal politics. Pack good morning to you.
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Speaker 6: Good morning guys. Look, I do think that it could potentially be a massive day today if the coalition, the Liberals and the Nationals do yet again decide to split go their separate ways. It looks as though that that's where things are heading. When late last night the Nationals held a virtual meeting and all Nationals front benches decided to quit their roles, and a lot of it all comes down to the Labour's hate laws, the Albanezi government's hate crime laws, which have passed through the parliament. The Liberals backed them in fairly broadly back them in. There was a couple of Liberals that abstained from that boat, but they broadly back to the government's position in but the Nationals did not. The Nationals believe that these hate laws have been rushed, there hasn't been enough consultation, and that the legislation contains loopholes, and for that reason, the Nationals say they can't vote for them. And what's essentially happened is it's caused this fracture in the coalition. Last night the front benches resigned, and I do think that it's going to be hard for Nationals and Liberals really to work together for the rest of this term of parliament.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this looks like, you know, the absolute definition of reconcilable differences, doesn't it back.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, look absolutely so. You think that they went through this process in May last year after the federal election, and then they split for eight days and that became a bit of a joke in itself that they know they decided to go their separate ways eight days and then they came back together. But I don't think anything ever improved since then. There's been tensions since then, and I think it just all has come to a head yet again. And what happened here is that Susan Lee is saying that shadow cabinet did decide that these laws that Labor proposed would be passed. Okay, so she's saying they needed to be shadow cabinet solidarity. And you had an in shadow cabinet, you've got both Liberals and Nationals, and three Nationals being Bridget Mackenzie, Ross Cadell and Susan McDonald. When it came to the final vote, they decided to physically cross the floors rather and vote with the Greens against the laws, rather than just simply abstain in the Parliament, as in not coming to the chamber and vote to them. And it's that showered defiance of shadow cabinet of them, of these three members physically crossing the floor and voting with the Greens against Labour's laws, which has caused the ructions. They've tended their resignations as they had to do so because they breached or broke the cabinet's solidarity. And Susan Lee accepted those resignations, but David Little Proud write a letter telling her that if you accept these resignations, the rest of us will go. And that's what happened.
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Speaker 4: So, Pat, do you think it's fair to say that that was great analysis? By the way, like trying to keep on top of all of the miniche in the inner sort of outs and ins and up the cats wa zoo, remarkably complex stuff. Isn't the danger with this though, that the average punt were not actually the average punter. Because I'm struggling to understand it myself, and someone who ostensibly pays attention to politics, people just glance at this and go, jeez, that Susan Lee is hopeless.
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Speaker 6: It's one thousand percent yeah, one hundred percent correct, one hundred percent correct. There is so my new shah and detail and nuance in all of that they've done. That you're right for a lot of people saying what the hell is going on? The coalition does just not have its act together. It just gives alban easy and Labor another free part, even though they really don't deserve it.
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Speaker 4: Well, they have a shocking response to Bondi, the dithering over the Royal Commission, and here we are the some total result of all that is how about coasting along with the smoldering ruins of the coalition mind.
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Speaker 6: Him completely, one hundred percent. It's just it's unbelieving. And this is why you're talking about one nation. This is actually why one Nation has been seen this surge because at least as a party, they're clarified as to what it is they do and don't stand for.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent, great analysis, mate, Michael Packy, the national political editor for nine Radio and Cambra.
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Speaker 3: To that end, things like immigration, the lightning rod issue of the moment. You can go to the One Nation website and they put a number on it. They will tell you we will allow in one hundred and thirty three thousand people a year. It'll be down four hundred and fifty odd thousand from where it is right now. It's all so clear. There's no well, you know, not always for good.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes for real.
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Speaker 3: No, that's gee, we'll print more money. Well that's right. Yeah, But the Donald Trump lesson has been Donald Trump is very clear in what he says and stands for and wants to do. At least it's an ethos, dude, exactly right. Thirteen point eight degrees outside in the city at the moment. How many people seventy people with to me yesterday, said Cricky. It's cold at the moment. It's weird. It was mid twenties. It's heading for the top of a chili top of twenty seven today. Then things will change Tomorrow five, Saturday forty two, Sunday thirty four, Monday forty, Tuesday thirty nine. What if that one could get to forty two and then Wednesday it'll cool down to thirty degrees.
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Speaker 4: Well, Saturday has gone from thirty five to forty to forty one to forty two in the forecast.
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Speaker 3: Is going to be warm. Tom Ren's in the five double a breakfast, studio order and you glider or garage door before the end of feb and the operator's free teas and seas a play Morning Year Renny.
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Speaker 7: Morning Boys.
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Speaker 8: Eventually, now Dan Curtin, as we perhaps suspected, or a lot of fans may have suspected, he is going to have surgery, so he'll be out for at least the first six rounds of the season. They're saying back between round seven and nine. Disappointing, not great, not what you want to hear at the start of the year. Look, it was looking a bit scary yesterday Isaac Rankin went down at training, but false Salami came back and played the rest of MATSim But as we know, you don't want too much of your top end talent going down, particularly this time of year.
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Speaker 7: So he will be back. I think it's the right call. You've got to put him in.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a long term prospect. But the problem is I was saying that someone he's probably the guy that I think most Crows fans would have at least wanted to lose to injury in Yes, Jordan Dawson's a better football or Riley Philthorp's obviously in the conversation he's got more upside. But if you look at the side and go how are they going to get over the hump and becoming side that wins finals, it's probably Dan Curtin's like at the top of the list. Yeah, he's the midfielder. He's the guy that's right, He's the one so much hope is on his shoulders are now on his kneecap.
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Speaker 7: Now, yeah, and now other players. I mean tough, really tough in Melbourne.
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Speaker 4: It doesn't get much easier.
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Speaker 8: It's going to have to be those players like Sligo who spoke about you know, all of those guys are going to have to.
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Speaker 7: Step up and have big starts to the year.
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Speaker 4: Every day the club normally does not win.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, so tough.
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Speaker 9: Now.
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Speaker 8: The other thing I wanted to touch on is Manchester City. Have the players sent a dangerous precedent. They've lost a Champions League match yesterday to a Norwegian side who hadn't won a Champions League match this campaign. They called Bodo Glint, a tiny side in Norway, and because Manchester City lost three to one, they've said to all their traveling fans, We're going to refund your money. We're going to pay for everything that you've.
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Speaker 3: Really talked out of your pocket. So this occasionally in English football.
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Speaker 7: Would you would you like to see a FL sides do something similar?
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Speaker 3: And whereould you get a reefer? We are in no danger of that happening anytime soon. I would have thought, ready how.
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Speaker 4: Many how many of our listeners saw both the Crows finals last year?
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Speaker 3: I would like it.
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Speaker 4: That would have been good, particularly that Brisbane game. There's one of the worst games of football. Second one.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Ji, and you can rip them speaking of their midfield, he ripped them in that first.
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Speaker 3: Quarter exactly right. I like it though. It'd be good if you got it. If your team was so bad.
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Speaker 7: You're got a free trips.
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Speaker 4: Poor fans should get a refund for the entire season last year, the season that never was with the whole.
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Speaker 3: The problem with this plan is if you're a North Melbourne fan, you've been actually made being a fan of full time job the last three years. I think, yeah, you're probably earning a wage at this point. If if you've had to buy a house in North Melbourne cod On, you're ready. Thanks boys, David.
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Speaker 2: Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a breakfast twenty one minutes to seven.
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Speaker 3: Looking forty here into from the bureau this morning, because there is a third day now that's dangerously close to hitting the forty mark in the early part next week. We've got the forty two on Saturday obviously, then we've got the forty on Monday and of thirty nine on Tuesday, so we'll check it with the bureau and get it. I mean, we are in serious hot weather, dangerous hot weather pattern here, so we will find it from the Weather Bureau. Chance there is of a third forty in our very near future that's coming up shortly. Matt Abraham in an hour's time on everything that's going on politics, state and federal. Cannot wait for Matt to come in the studio.
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Speaker 4: Is it going to be a message if you're not at this point yet, will you will be soon? You will be very soon. With a little Rosie growing up.
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Speaker 3: They grow up so fast, as they say.
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Speaker 4: But Tuesday's school lunch box is presenting quite the conundrum. Forty one degree days for back to school fruit.
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna have a long shelf life, is it?
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Speaker 10: It?
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Speaker 4: Don't putting any sushi in there, any anything with butter or mayonnaise is going to be pretty unpleasant. You can't use any.
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Speaker 3: Lot of dry cruskets in the box, am or anything.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe maybe some cruskets and vegemite could withstand it.
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Speaker 3: But even that would the butter and it'd be liquefied.
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Speaker 4: But you know how hot the banana would be by the time.
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Speaker 3: It's a good question, what do you do? What's the hot weather lunch box item.
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Speaker 4: Well, the problem too is the school touch chops off and aren't open on the first day back to school, and particularly after a long weekend where the shops are shut on Monday. So I guess the kids would just have to go hungry, you.
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Speaker 3: Know what, with the thing we haven't sold.
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Speaker 4: If they can forage for nuts and berries.
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Speaker 3: I've missed this and I confess this is my ear. They could have to forage the Tuesday night overnight low. The overnight low on Tuesday is going to be twenty eight degrees. Gidding, twenty eight.
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Speaker 4: It's got sort of five years ago forty six degree vibes about it. This weekend, really Saturday like, it wouldn't be surprising if it went up to forty three or forty four. I don't think I'm not just jumping around.
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Speaker 3: I don't think the forecast maximum is quite so high in Davos, Switzerland. That's what we're heading now. If with Ben Downey, who's the seven News Europe correspondent who was a witness to Donald Trump's extraordinary speech just hours ago. Ben, good morning to.
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Speaker 10: You, ding Jens. Now you have seven degrees here, so I'd probably trade my temperature for yours.
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Speaker 4: Oh mate, you're bearing up.
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Speaker 10: They've got to wear a suit and tie of these kind of engaged just as much as I'd like to wear a big ufer and jacket and snow gear. I'm struggling, but I'm not swing. You need to feel Symothy, for this is a billionaires playground, so I've got people have a worse than idea right now.
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Speaker 4: So trump'sn't really at Davos. He's sort of off to the side with the sort of fold out table from Bunning's doing his own presentation, isn't he? Is that the way it's sort of working.
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Speaker 10: Well, it's called Camp USA. They've actually had to overtake a church in town so big as the US delegation here so they can host all their meetings. But no, he's very much in the thick of it right today. Quite a shell of force, really a giant military helicopter convoy landing in the middle of the Swiss alpine town before he went and really made a speech that the whole world was waiting with baited breath to hear, because there's always these fears that he was about to either invade green Land or hit many of these allies, these European nations with these harsh tariffs, they wouldn't allow him to have this Arctic territory. And then he went on to basically saying we need to have it for Arctic security. It's a master we're going to install missile systems across all of it as well, and basically telling them we need to have urgent negotiations and if you don't, well you don't know what's going to happen if you don't come to the negotiating table. But after issuing these threats in the last few moments, they've got some breaking news for you. He's just jumped on truth Social, one of the late night screeds he's really famous for writing, and he appears to have done a complete u turn. Now he says he's just had a very productive meeting with the NATO Secretary General. He's begun the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland. And then importantly he says, I will not be imposing all these tariffs that were scheduled to go into effect on Europe. So this is really one of those classic Taco moments that acronym that meets Trump always chickens out. He's done really a u turn. There was a lot of fear and anticipation over what he was going to say. But now it appears this strategy of flattery by Mark Rutter, the NATO Secretary General member, this is the guy that's called Trump Daddy the last time he was over in Europe, seems to for now at least have won him over.
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Speaker 4: Has he chicken ow or has it been successful brinsmanship? Though, like if the head of NAT is now saying we're prepared to look at some framework, could they get their way throughout force economic or certainly military.
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Speaker 10: Well, I think consider importantly at this stage. I mean, if you think if you asked NATA, they'd certainly say it's shrewd negotiating. But if importantly, in this statement we've just had from Trump, it doesn't mention anything about whether he would own the territory or whether it would remain under the control of Denmark and green Land, and it says nothing about Denmark or Greenland's wishes. But Mark Rutter, this NATO Secretary General, he's in there representing Denmark being one of the close NATO nations as well, he's in there fighting four NATA. So we don't have the complete details of this yet it looks like it's only the beginnings of a deal this stage anyway. But at this stage it appears after Trump saying only a few hours ago that they have to not just have control of it with military bases, but literally own it because in his words, none wants to defend a license agreement over Greenland. Now it appears, at least in some stage that it's going to remain a territory of Denmark for now. But of course with Trump, he so predictable. We've just seen in the last twenty four hours he's gone from on the brink of invasion to now becoming best friends with NATO again. He knows what's going to happen in the next twenty four hours.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, big breaking news, Ben, Thank you for that, Ben Downey for seven years in Switzerland. You'll get the latest on those developments on seven News tonight. That is an extraordinary change. And I'm just looking at the markets. The taco trade is that it was share traders that coined the coin that turn a frase. The trader's paid off again. If you buy the moment Trump talks tariffs as a threat and when markets tank, you're buying a dip that predictably will rebound very quickly.
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Speaker 4: He's probably doing it himself as the ultimate form of insider trading.
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Speaker 3: This don't laugh people, if not Trump himself, people around him. Oh yeah, his cotery codery. That's extraordinary. I tell you what else is extraordinary. Some of the folk people have been taking pictures of their weather rap but fixed to their location around South Australia. I think the winner is Trish in the Riverland in Barry. Have listened to the berry forecast from Saturday through to Wednesday forty four Saturday forty three, Sunday forty six, Monday forty seven, Tuesday forty seven forty Wednesday, then you think, oh, well it must cool off. Well this is how it cools off thirty eight Thursday, thirty nine Friday thirty eight Saturday. Trish is going to be slow cooked, unbelievab let's sad to the weather bureau. Ellie Matthews joins us, Ellie, we're trying to get our heads around all the numbers at the moment. Could we have three forty degree days in Metroalala. Do you think over the course of the next week.
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Speaker 11: Oh, look, in terms of how the forecast is shaping up. There's certainly a few days that are very much nearing, if not over that forty degrees in the next week or so. There's certainly across the state there is broader areas that are sitting well up into the mid forties for much of the coming week or so. Whilst today is not looking anywhere near as warm as the later forecast is, today is sort of that mihuld to warm day before the heat does arrive, only looking at a top of twenty seven degrees for Adelaide today. And when I say only that is when we're saying forty two degrees is on the forecast for Saturday, and still continuing at a thirty four degrees on Sunday, before another forty degrees potentially for Monday and Tuesday. So certainly a lot of heat is building across the states. Broadly across the pastoral areas. We're looking at forty five degrees if not warmer, for much of from Friday onwards, so certainly plenty of heat around and that does bring with it at times we will be seeing some gustier winds, particularly on Saturday, so it does mean for some elevated fire dangers in the coming week, particularly that Saturday, as we do see some fresh and gusty north northwesterly winds building ahead of a trough that does pass through. That trough may bring a slight reprieve to some heat for some of the coastal areas, including Adelaide. But in saying that the warmth does return for the new week, David and.
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Speaker 4: Will brace yourself. Ellie, it is going to be hot. Thank you for that, Elie. Matthews there from the weather View are our good friend. Jane Riley texted yesterday saying that yesterday Tuesday, Sorry, yesterday's Wednesday two days ago. Tuesday marked exactly a month since Adelaide recorded any rainfall. The last time it's rained in Adelaide was December twenty when we got one point two mill and the average rainfall for january's twenty mil.
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Speaker 3: We didn't get a drop last year, did we in January? Because we wouldn't get a drop until incredibly late in the year. Yeah, yeah, one if we're on the same path to that, just looking at our residence. That's man Ben Jordan who's texted in. You mentioned the forty six point six degrees in twenty nineteen that has sort of feel about it. He says that was part of a three hot day period. But in December of that year we also had four days in a row averaging forty four degrees and one night the overnight low was thirty three. So we've been through worse. I guess it's the boy.
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Speaker 4: It's true.
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Speaker 3: Soon you. Constable Daniel Isaacson from Sapoul joins us as we reflect on the overnight incident. So there was a car fire at Glenn Daniel, Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 12: Just after eleven to fifteen pm yesterday, Police and MFS crews were called to Provident Avenue after reports of a Black Master on fire. MFS crews extinguished the blaze, which had caused pretty extensive damage to the vehicle. We believe that this fire was deliberately lit. So we're just asking if anybody is witnessed the incident, call Crime Stubbs on one eight hundred Triple three Triples Area or report online.
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Speaker 4: Daniel. Also, there's been a house break in at Holden Hill.
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Speaker 13: Yeah.
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Speaker 12: This one happened at about three twenty am today. That's when police were called to an address on Narita Street at Holden Hill after reports of three people entering the property. The homeowner was confronted and a gray toad a camera was stolen, and luckily nobody was injured. The offenders left and the car was found a short time later after it had crashed his parked cars on Gaelic Avenue at holden Hill. So but didn't get too far. The car was towed from the scene and it's going to be forensically analyzed and investigations to locate the people responsible are continuing. And again if anybody has any information or witness this, we'll just ask them to contact crime Stuff as that number again one eight hundred, triple three, triple zero.
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Speaker 4: So when you come to with Daniel Isaacson from Sapole story for that holden Hill family, absolutely.
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Speaker 3: Tim sent us through what's the most comical forecast over the course of the next few days, Tarcola in the state's mid north. Now, I'll just read it to you. If so, the rest of today thirty five and so I call it Friday forty three, Saturday gets up to forty eight degrees tar call now, but have a listen to this some relief, late cool, change and windy. It drops back the next day to forty five. How about that cool change? Then forty seven on Monday the barbecue add forty four on Tuesday. Well, they'll be holding out for that relief of three degrees from forty eight to forty five in Tarcola. I bet, let's check traffic. We'll be back with more. Five double breakfast in just a moment.
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Speaker 4: I like this one from Peter, he says. If it don't make it at Heaven, at least I know what hell feels like with this.
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Speaker 2: Seek Yeah, David Penberthy and World Goodings five double A Breakfast Now.
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Speaker 3: Former colleague here at five double A. Chris McDermott is announced to be running for the seat of Dunstan at the state election for Sarah games Fair Go Party. We are going to be counting down before seven o'clock the top seven sports personalities turned politicians, So get your mind thinking about that and see if we've if we've missed anyone, but will reveal the top seven shortly.
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Speaker 4: I doubt he's in our list because he's two.
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Speaker 3: Thank you that.
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Speaker 4: There was a guy who played for Carlton in the nineteen fifties. Percy, Percy, Percy, I can't remember his last name was Percy Jackson. Percy Jackson, he ran for the Liberals. And you know who slogan was point Percy at the Parliament was that was his slogan, Percy Percy person.
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Speaker 3: That's quite something.
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Speaker 4: First Texter through who's got his name, will give you some wills tickets.
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Speaker 3: Now this is extraordinary. You go to an airport, the vending machine is very important. You're waiting around, You've usually got a selection of chips, crisps, soft drink water. Not in Port Lincoln where you can get oysters oysters from the airport vending machine. Joanne Quigley is the Lower air Council Mayor and joins us on five to the Blue Breakfast. Now, Mayor, good.
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Speaker 4: Morning to you.
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Speaker 14: Good morning.
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Speaker 4: This is a great idea, Mayor. They do it in France, don't they.
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Speaker 3: Is that?
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Speaker 4: What the do you come from?
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Speaker 14: We actually got the idea from a vendi that we have in Coffin Bay that has a venging machine outside of their oyster business.
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Speaker 4: Okay, is it the restaurant there on the Oyster boardwalk Oyster HQ? Yes, yeah, Oyster HQ. Cory Bernardi owns that, doesn't.
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Speaker 14: He he does?
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Speaker 13: Now?
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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, So it's coming to coming to Paul Lincoln. What a great innovation.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, look, we're really excited. It's taken a little while for it to work, but we're working with Craig and Sandy from the Fresh Fish Place and they've now the machine arrived last week and on Saturday we had it filled and we were quite fortunate that we'd had the Tunerama in Port Lincoln, so we had quite a few ministers and we had Opposition Leader Susan Lee and Federal Minister Don Farrell along with state ministers Joe Sockutch and Lucy Hood at the airport on Saturday morning when it was stopped, so they were some of the first to be able to purchase the goods. So great, great promotion for the seafood industry on the Lower Peninsula. So really excited that it's all up and going, and if you want to pop in, you can get fresh coffin Bay oysters, we've got local seafood, bluef in, tuna and spencer golf kingfish and jars, pickled local octopus, Portland and squid, and there's quite a good selection of different smoke house products. So the fridge is ready to go and it looks amazing in the spot where it is, it's very convenient for people to be able to grab something. And the other amazing thing is that you can actually purchase a bag, a cold pat bag to put your produce in, to get it on the plane and to get it home.
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Speaker 3: Good is that.
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Speaker 4: I'll presume the oyster is around open though, are they not?
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Speaker 12: I think they're opened really well.
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Speaker 14: But now now that you've said that, I was. I was looking at the machine as I blew out of Portlancoln last night. But I I think we're but maybe they might not be. I'm sorry that I not all over that life.
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Speaker 3: People can go and discover for themselves, don't they.
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Speaker 14: That's right, absolutely, But I think the fact that you don't have to be prepared with packaging or anything like that, it's all there, yeah, a one stop shop for you to be able to take some produce home and to be able to share the experiences of our seafood. It is well renowned and we're really proud of it. So it's great that people.
00:35:25
Speaker 12: Can do that.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely couldn't have said it better myself. Mayor good on your joan quickly the Lower Air Council.
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Speaker 3: Mayor thanks everyoneho's texted and calling as well. Percy Jones was the person you were thinking of the.
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Speaker 7: Top seven before seven?
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Speaker 3: Which person Jones could well have featured in our Top seven before seven? Sports personalities turned politicians inspired by number seven. Chris McDermott inaugurll Crow's captain now running for the steak of Dunstan and the state election. Number six. This is global, by the way, These are big global names. Manny Pacquiao, the boxer, one of the greats of all time, became a senator in the Philippines between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty two. Dawn Fraser, of course, remember for Balmont. That's right, one of the greatest who ever done it? Nov Paris, speaking of Olympians turned parliamentarians, became the first Indigenous woman selected to parliament in twenty thirteen. Imran Khan, the great Pakistan All round of twenty eighteen to twenty twenty two, doesn't ever turn out well for former Prime Ministers of Pakistan wants their term ins and he's currently in jail. Arnold Schwarzenegger, the governor to mister Olympia. This counts as a sportsperson, doesn't it. He was a professional bodybuild in mister universety, what sort of thing? California governor for eight years twos and three to twenty eleven and a number one spot there could only be one. Longtime listeners to this program will know this was going to be easy.
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Speaker 15: No morning, good morning, Good morning, Chris. Why are you standing a number of reasons. I guess throughout my sporting career, I've had the urge to do community work and I think I've really worked hard on that aspect my sixteen years in Canberra. And the thing about that is that I was, I guess, a public figure and I was put on as a on the pardium where I was just a person out there making sure that.
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Speaker 3: I was I'm bugged.
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Speaker 15: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 3: That's a right resign.
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Speaker 10: So, ma'am.
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Speaker 15: I think he is leaving the studio and he says that he.
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Speaker 3: Can't do it. I love that for legendary moments in Australian political history.
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Speaker 4: Well, Bone won't come on with us this morning.
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Speaker 3: We love it. We're trying to get colder Bone.
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Speaker 4: He went on with Lay last night, but he won't come on with us, So maybe he's broke. He's going to do a mon Aninga on the Breaking.
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Speaker 3: Show, There's Still Time. There's Still Time by.
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Speaker 2: David Penberthie and Will Goodings five Double A Breakfast.
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Speaker 3: Seven after save but good morning to you and welcome for Thursday if you're joining us for the first time on five Double A Breakfast today some breaking user expecting in the next hour on the program, the Nationals will be holding an all in press conference in Cambrick in about fifty minutes time, so out of eight o'clock we imagine we'll get some clarity around the future of the coalition. Would appear there is no future for the coalition. Let's start a book.
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Speaker 4: I'll chance my arm and say that by five pm tomorrow season Lee will have resigned as leader of the Liberal Party.
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Speaker 3: Do you think that's how this plays out? I think she's cooked, isn't she. I think she should be cooked, But that's a different question to whether she actually will.
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Speaker 4: But I think she's going to have a Vincent Tazi style epiphany where she just goes And he did his on a Friday as well. He thought about it Thursday night. Today is Thursday. It was exactly six weeks ago. That No, seven weeks ago. Sorry that Vincent Tarzi did that cracky how time flies. But it just feels like she's got this, She's she's got the.
00:38:42
Speaker 3: Well, how much worse can it get? What does it need to get a doomed woman? Well, Alicia's recap the last few days? Shall we the worst news poll result for any major party in the history of news poll? And the coalition is no more like the.
00:38:56
Speaker 4: Preferred Conservative Party in Australia now is headed by Pauline Hands That's correct, but the Party of John Howard is behind the Party of Pauline Hansen.
00:39:04
Speaker 3: That would seem to be a compelling argument for a leadership change, wouldn't it. Yeah?
00:39:08
Speaker 4: And I think she.
00:39:10
Speaker 3: I mean.
00:39:10
Speaker 4: The question then becomes who gets it? And I think, sadly, the Liberal who is shaming Tailor the most leadership in Australia over the last eight weeks on the one issue that should be uniting us all, sadly is not in the Parliament. His name's Josh Friedenberg. Yes, without a doubt he shamed Anthony Alberanezi with that speech that he gave in Bondai and the leadership that he showed. Primarily, I would argue on behalf of all Australians and also importantly his own his own people, the Jewish people of Australia. But his anger was justified. And we've now got this absurd situation where the government, the alb and Easy government has been on the skids over its response to BONDEI and it's ambivalence to the calls in the two years proceed BONDI that anti Semitism was running unchecked in Australia, the bombing of synagogues, the sort of hate speech that's been running unchecked and unchallenged through mosques in western Sydney and in outer of Melbourne in particular, the furor over the repatriation of Isis Bride's, the question mark over the checking of Palestinian asylum seekers, some of whom may or may not support harmus and will never know because the vetting processes are so sloppy. I mean, there's any number of things you can criticize the Albansy government over and what's happened.
00:40:39
Speaker 3: The coalition has collapsed.
00:40:41
Speaker 4: It's just a extra disaster.
00:40:43
Speaker 3: We'll find more about that after eight o'clock the day. We'll gett Abraham's take in the next twenty or thirty minutes as well. Of course here in the outstrata, in the midst of a an election campaign that's just a couple of months away, and we have a new contender for the seat of Dunstan.
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Speaker 16: Somebody that's coming in from outside. I think the political landscape is ready for some change. Can't say I'm going in expecting to win. I'm going in hoping I can make a difference and people can see that.
00:41:11
Speaker 3: That's an augrill Crow's coach, former five Double A host Chris McDermott, who will be running for the Sarah Game a fair go for All South Australian's Party in the seat of Dunstan.
00:41:21
Speaker 4: He's the world's nicest bloke, but Bone has got an absolute snowballs chance in hell of making any difference whatsoever in that seat. Why didn't he run down Glenn Elgway. He should have.
00:41:31
Speaker 3: It's just about where he lives, isn't it. There's more he don't live in there electorate.
00:41:38
Speaker 4: He should have run in Gibson, which is Cory Winguard's old seat. You know, every person down there is a mad Bay supporter and the margin for Labour is only like one percent down there, isn't it if you run down there, he might have actually caused a few more ripples. But in Lardi Dar Eastern suburbs Dunstan. This is how well it's a glenelg Blake doing living on that side of town. Anyway, get to the barbecue in from the Nord Parade.
00:42:05
Speaker 3: You've asked the interesting question there. At the by election in To twenty twenty four April twenty twenty four, Ana Finincio got forty three point five percent of the first preference vote. Cressita Handler, who won the seat thirty two point one percent. Katie McCusker, remember was the Greens are very strong in that part of Adelaide nineteen point two percent. It would seem to be a herculean effort to try and get into the second position, which is what he'd have to do to get get in on preferences. That's a huge ask, but if he did manage to do it, he will join Frank Pangalo among the class of former five Double A hosts have tried their hand in state politics. One of our listers can think of any others any others that have There have been plenty of others that have been in politics and come and hosted radio here, but have gone from the radio side to actually politics.
00:42:56
Speaker 4: You've done one off programs when I was on paternity leave. You did show a couple of times with Nick Xenophone.
00:43:02
Speaker 3: Yes, but he was already in politics, I suppose.
00:43:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.
00:43:04
Speaker 3: Jane Stinson was a regular when I was doing Afternoon. She was always our political correspondent and then went on to be we'll claim that one. She went on to become a labor MP for the seat of bad Co.
00:43:13
Speaker 4: Obviously, Natasha Stock the spoyer did radio. Yes, she also did radio with a former partner in Smith at the ABC for quite some time, there's been there's been a lot. Kevin Foley did radio here. He did the breakfast, he did the morning show for all he was good too.
00:43:31
Speaker 3: Fully, I'm not afraid of knock about manners saying what he thinks on time. This weekend around the country, coinciding with Australia Day at midday in all the major capital cities, there will be March for Australia events taking place, and one of the anthems of the March for Australia is now the subject of some controversy. Colin Haig, the lead singer of Men at Work, of course, has issued a statement in the last three hours that reads, let me say that I most strenuously disapprove of any unauthorized, unlicensed use of down Under for any March for Australia events. Down Under, a song I co wrote, does not belong to those who attempt to sew xenophobia with the fabric of our great land, our great people. Down Under is ultimately a song of celebration. It's for pluralism and inclusion, unity, not division. Go write your own song, leave mine alone. Colin Hay signs off Colin Hay and In Brackett's Immigrant is.
00:44:45
Speaker 4: From Scotland originally. Yeah, Colin Hay, Well, that's fair enough, it's his song. There's been incidents of this in the nited in the United States, in American politics? Was it Springsteen?
00:44:57
Speaker 3: Fired up?
00:44:57
Speaker 4: When Ronald Reagan tried to use Born in the USA in the ninety eight.
00:45:01
Speaker 3: Trump had one two a song that he was using that was objected to.
00:45:07
Speaker 4: Every performer.
00:45:09
Speaker 3: Apart from that, there's a few country music types kid rock, kid rock, sweet Ome Alabama, Nicki Minaj now yeah, she's pull Margaret Yeah, Taita had a.
00:45:20
Speaker 4: Bit of a stink with Trump too, that's right, the swifties for Trump, the Instagram website that took off.
00:45:28
Speaker 3: That's right, zero eight thirty ninety five. Lots to lots to talk about this morning, the sort of stuff that's happening as we speak, and lots of feedback coming through on those issues and more as well.
00:45:41
Speaker 4: A lot of feedback about the coalition. Fair to say that those listeners among our number who skew conservative are just shaking their heads the way this is playing out. A few people are making some quite shrewd predictions. I think Paul in Norwd might be onto something morning, lads. I can see the National possibly entering into a coalition with the One Nation Party, especially with the potential for Barnaby Joyce opening negotiations. And one here from Andrew saying I agree with you, Dave. Susan Lee is cooked after she accepted the first three resignations, when David little Prowd told her if she did, the rest would walk. What a mess we've got, calls out to some of South Australia's few remaining coalition federal MPs. There's only two of them left in South Australia at the Lower House level more senators. But we've been getting texts from people saying that there are all sorts of theories doing the rounds and no one has any idea what is going to happen. Sorry, I've been distracted.
00:46:47
Speaker 3: I mentioned there's the old musician that's been upset about Donald Trump using their music. Do you want to hear the definitive list?
00:46:53
Speaker 4: How long is it?
00:46:54
Speaker 3: But TI? This is in alphabetical order. These are people that have officially publicly rebuked Donald Trump for using their music in campaign events or public speaking tour or whatever. Abba Abbat Adele, Aerosmith, Aha, Andrew Lloyd Webber, The Animals, The Beatles, Beyonce, Bruce Springsteen, Celine, Dion, Credence, Clear Order, Revival, Earth Wind and Fire, Eddie Grant, Elton, John Everlast, Foo Fighters, Free Guns N' Roses, Isaac Kay's, Jess Glynn, Joey Valence and Bray, Johnny mar Kenny Logan's Letterard Cohen, The Musical Lay, Miss Lincoln Park, Luciano Pavarotti, MGMT, Neil Young, Nickelback, Nico Veaga, Nick Kershaw, The Ojs, Olivia Rodrigo, Ozzy Osborne, Panic at the Disco, Farrell, Williamsfield Collins, Prince Queen arim Rihanna, The Rolling Stones, Rupus, Wayne Wright, Sabrina Carpenter, Seismonic Shnado, Konna, Spinal tap As Scissor, Spikal tap Tom Petty, Twisted, Sister Village People, the White Stripes.
00:47:46
Speaker 4: That's quite a cop. That's pretty much every Grammy winner for the last twenty five years.
00:47:52
Speaker 3: Richard and Glenside has called in on sports people turned politicians born If you're.
00:47:56
Speaker 9: Richard, yeah, hi, guys, you might be a bit young to remember. But Ian McLaughlin was a Liberal politician for many years and a test cricketer.
00:48:05
Speaker 5: So I don't know if you've.
00:48:07
Speaker 9: Got him or not, if you missed him or not. I'm not sure.
00:48:10
Speaker 3: He's a great but it's a great entry.
00:48:11
Speaker 4: Rich was the Defense Minister in Canberra in the first term of the Howard government and in a show of a character which sadly is lacking I think in a lot of people in public life, he sacked himself. He quit the front bench when he accidentally received secret information about the High Marsh Island Bridge. That was that's intended for another person whose surname was McLaughlin. It was sent to his office in error, and he opened it and read it.
00:48:44
Speaker 3: Politics used to have integrity, didn't they at least more integrity?
00:48:47
Speaker 4: And on account of reading it, he went and handed himself into.
00:48:52
Speaker 3: Thinking about Barrio. Farrell in New South Wales are resigned because he received a bottle of wine that he didn't declare bottle of Grange. Bottle of Grange. Thank you for that, Richie. That was a good one. Alan and Henley Beach, good morning, thir Good morning David.
00:49:04
Speaker 13: Will Yeah.
00:49:05
Speaker 5: Chris Natt exployer, a footballer, was a legislative member of an assembly in Northern Territory.
00:49:13
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's good. That's a good fee, Alan John Alexander's one that came to mind. Member four men alone, that's right, a short time ago. Matt Cowdrey, my local member in Carlton Course outgoing unfortunately, is a good member. He's a good representative. Matt in Victoria. That's right. Tennis player yep.
00:49:33
Speaker 2: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
00:49:37
Speaker 3: Twenty three minutes after seven. Late in the program yesterday, we received a call from someone who was standing on the platform at a train station or a series incident had unfolded. They won't aware what it was, but just knew that the Gaula line had been stopped and police and emergency services were in attendant. Subsequently, we learnt over the course of the day that a sixteen year old boy crashed into a train riding an e scooter. It comes just days after an escoter rider clydeal to the car at Stirling and six odd months it was July last year when es scooter riding in South Australia became legal. Six months in a couple of incidents. Let's chat with an expert in Russell White, chair of the Australian Road Safety Foundation. Russell, good morning to you. What evidence do we have Obviously it's early in the game here in South Australia about but the safety of riding east scooter is, say, compared to school kids riding bikes.
00:50:28
Speaker 17: Yeah, morning, guys. I think the jury is a little bit out still on the exact extent of this, but what we're going to be seeing, I think in what we have seen pretty much right around the country is that there's increasing rates in terms of serious trauma from things like e scooters and e bikes, probably for a number of reasons. But obviously the speed that these things can do is quite different, say to your standard push bike. They can do their speed consistently. So I think we've also got a real mix now of people hitting the roads, and they're fairly inexperienced with a little experience, i should say, on things that can go quite quickly and can be at times quite unstable from a dynamic standpoint. So we are certainly when I talk to to trauma surgeons around the country, it's probably the number one thing that they're talking about in terms of increases in injury and when we're seeing road trauma figures right across the country, you know, for the last four or five years heading in the wrong direction. This is this is part of the puzzle that we've got to try and solve.
00:51:27
Speaker 4: One of the things that seems confusing Russell is they're sort of neither fish nor foul these bikes. They sort of, you know, they feel like they're too fast to go on those shared bike in pedestrian lanes, and then they're not quite fast enough to go on the roads.
00:51:42
Speaker 17: Yeah, that's and again you're right, when things like this come into the road safety space, they often come in I guess with unintended consequences, you know. But I think obviously you know, from other genders, if you like, you know, e Bikes scooters might appeared to have been a solution, and in some cases they might be. But I think there's also with anything new, and let's face it, we saw the same thing really with mobile phones. Mobile phones came into our lives so quickly, very quickly found themselves into cars, very quickly found themselves into our road network, and as a result, in now our distraction is a major thing of what we're trying to deal with in terms of reducing road fatalities and road injuries. And you're right when these things sort of don't quite fit, you know, in either space. You know, I think, as you said in your intro, you know, I think when we're looking at the complexity of this issue, it's not just collisions with these devices and vehicles, clearly, there's also a significant issue with them cliding with pedestrians as well. And they're very quick, they're very they're very they can be unstable in terms of I said that they're dynamics, and they're also fairly silent, so as the pedestrian he cons them coming as well.
00:52:48
Speaker 4: Russell White, the chair of the Australia Road Safety Foundation, Thanks for that, Associate Professor been living from the Adelaide UNI School of Law is on the line now, Professor. What are the legalant and thank you for joining us. What are the what are some of the sort of new legal challenges that these scooters throw up?
00:53:05
Speaker 18: Good morning. I think the main challenge, and I agree with all of what Russell's just says, strikes me. They're quite complicated rules that exist around them, and they are routine these flouted. So I think probably the main problem they present is difficulties with enforcement. I mean just yesterday anticipating this call this morning. Just yesterday walking home, I was passed by numerous people who had passengers, which is which is not supposed to be happening. Numerous people without helmets, which again you should be wearing helmets, and you quite frequently see privately and this is not so much the higher ones, but privately owned ones that are are way beyond the power capacity that you should be having on this that should be allowed, which probably gets around this idea of them being too slow to keep up with traffic when they're on the roads. They do seem a little bit vulnerable. But but it's it's clearly not something that that that that's being regulated or police as people might I like it to be.
00:54:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely great Staff Associate Professor Ben Livings from the we now call Adelaide University. Yeah, Adlide University, the University of Adelaide's Adelaide University.
00:54:12
Speaker 3: Twenty eight minutes after seven, five Double News is coming up. Then immediately after it, Matt Abraham will join us for the first time in twenty twenty six. We've got the coalition in disarray, of big press conference that the Nationals are holding in about thirty three minutes time, and a state election campaign that is well and truly underway. We'll get all of Matt's thoughts next.
00:54:30
Speaker 2: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five Double A Breakfast.
00:54:34
Speaker 3: I was.
00:54:38
Speaker 13: Fish, here's the monk received manifest.
00:54:43
Speaker 7: You're eating the dogs.
00:54:45
Speaker 8: I'll tell you what any buses sex anyone not turning up the day as a thump matts.
00:54:53
Speaker 3: Yes. For the first time in twenty twenty six in a target rich environment. Matt Abraham joins us in the five Double A Breakfast studio. Matt, good morning, Good morning, Will, good morning.
00:55:01
Speaker 18: David.
00:55:01
Speaker 4: Great to see you, Matt, Happy New Year.
00:55:03
Speaker 19: Happy New Year to you guys.
00:55:04
Speaker 4: We have spoken, we've been testing each other. Yes, there's been lots to talk about it.
00:55:07
Speaker 19: It's been a bit of Writers Week texts going, We've been a lot of writing about Writers Week, having encapsulated little texts. I've been thinking about Writer's Week a fair bit. Why haven't I been invited?
00:55:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're an excellent writer, right, Well.
00:55:22
Speaker 19: You know, maybe I haven't written anything interesting in the last fifty two years, but I don't think there was an odd deliver.
00:55:30
Speaker 4: No, maybe you haven't written anything that all of the people who normally go to it agree with exactly exactly.
00:55:36
Speaker 19: Have been thinking about Writer's Week and the fact that it's not going It's obviously not going ahead this year, Yes, not going ahead this year, but next year and you know, it could quite easily disappear up its own clacker and ninety nine point five percent of the Adelaide and South Australian population wouldn't miss it at all. I was talking to a government well a government minister about this and this is this is give you a little bit of a reflection in the government because this thing has you know, worried them come to that in the moment, but they said more people have vastly more people applied for a ballot for the opening day of the Aquatic Center than attended Writers Week, and they have to pay Writers Week's free, so what I would call and maybe a lot of people go to Writers Week, maybe there's a overlap they're also going to the aquatic Center. This person was also amazed when I pressed them on the fact that why are they charging people who won a ballot for the first day to go to the aquatic center. Why isn't it free to watch this space? But so that's sort of the thinking in terms of putting it in perspective. You know, I know it's been I don't think it's been a storm and a teak up. I think there's some very big issues that come out of the sacking of the Palestinian pro Palestinian writer Louis Adler's resignation. But the government knew this was coming one way or another. The government knew this was coming before BONDI, So Peter mal Nauskus knew that this was something the government was going to have to have a position on because the board had decided to.
00:57:24
Speaker 12: Not have.
00:57:26
Speaker 19: They didn't want Dr Rater on the program. Louise Adler defied them and.
00:57:33
Speaker 4: This was in my last year. Yeah, so this now we're going to the board. We're going to try to sack it. Yeah, they got Crown more advice and we told them they couldn't.
00:57:40
Speaker 7: So the board.
00:57:41
Speaker 19: You know, one of the questions I've put to government. People have been talking about this is, look, why don't you do a root and branch review of the board. Why don't you just go through them, you know, not just this board and the previous board, but the governance of the Adelaide Festival and Writers Week. And they said, well, they did it, but they did their own comprehensive one and that was one of the findings from it. So they knew this particular train was sort of careering down the tracks. And then Bondi happened, and you know, Bondai changed a lot of things for the government because it had to have a position or what's our position going to be on this? Are we're just going to ignore it or are we going to confront it? And I think I'm fairly safe in saying that the Premier is thinking was well, I either one way or another we've got to take a stand on this, okay. So I either take a stand that doesn't align with my principles and then I'll have to defend it, or I take a stand that does align with my principles or my current thinking, and I have to defend it. And it's a lot easier to defend something that you genuinely feel and you know you've thought through then something that you're defending when it's like an alb and easy defense, where it ends up being a total mess for you because it's indefensible.
00:59:00
Speaker 4: I don't think Maley did this for political reasons, but there are political repercussions from it, and I'd love to hear your thoughts, Matt, because I struggle to see what the political downside is for him out of this. If you think about it, the type of people who go to Writers Week, they are all overwhelmingly skew green left.
00:59:21
Speaker 19: They do, now, don't they?
00:59:23
Speaker 3: Yeah?
00:59:23
Speaker 19: I mean you're not going now to see the colin Colleen McCulloch's John Updyke. Yeah, Thomas Knneely's Alan Ginsbury.
00:59:33
Speaker 4: It needs to be much more diverse line.
00:59:35
Speaker 19: It's more the duller Rati, now, isn't it?
00:59:40
Speaker 4: But don't you think if these people are angry at Malanowskers, they're not going to suddenly start voting.
00:59:45
Speaker 19: Liberal and got nowhere to go.
00:59:46
Speaker 4: They might leave labor. They might they might be labor left type people who go bagger out. I'm never voting labor and I'm going to vote for the Greens. Well, those votes come back via preferences.
00:59:58
Speaker 19: But I can't see look downside, apart from the fact that there's probably a distraction from a run up to election campaign, but I can't see, you know, politically, I don't think he's burnt capital here.
01:00:10
Speaker 4: We have had dozens and dozens of texts though from people saying I'm traditionally a liberal supporter, and I am really impressed that Malanowskis has stood up as a matter of principle. I'm sick of seeing the tax dollars being wasted on these festivals where people get together to agree with each other about all of their pet causes. I think the biggest distraction from all of this has been poor old Ashton Hern trying to get some oxygen again the sixth week of her leadership and between BONDI and this's what's been your most memorable Ashton hern moment of January.
01:00:46
Speaker 19: Well, the fact that somebody inside, apparently inside the Liberal teams leaking against is the main story coming out of the Liberal pre election campaign at the moment. But one of the things I've read Luise Adler's piece in The Guardian after she quit in high dudgeon, the one paragraph really stood out to me, which sort of encapsulates to me that the angs here, I suppose she says, increasingly extreme and repressive efforts of pro Israel lobbyists to stifle even the mildest criticism has had a chilling effect on free speech and democratic institutions. The new mantra Bondai changed everything, and she's got that in inverted comets has offered this lobby, its stenographers in the media and a spineless political class yet another coercive weapon. Hence, in twenty twenty six the board and an atmosphere of intense political pressure has issued needed that an author is to be canceled. The thing that really stood out to me is that phrase Bondai changed everything, because this is something that particularly the pro Palestinian left is having trouble coming to terms with, because it can't be business as usual after BONDI if you get people massacred at a peaceful event on a beach in Australia, in Sydney, it can't be business as usual again. You can't say, oh, well, this is the mantra of these stenographers in the media and a spineless political class. Well, I think that our political class has shown a lot of spine here in South Australia, and the Premier is shown a lot of spine. He didn't have to take a stand on this, and I think his stance and I'm not saying Louis Adler isn't a genuine and intelligent and passionate advocate of free speech. I'm not saying that at all. And the Premier supports Writers Week, you know, because the government could defund Writers Week, Like if they have a successful guerrilla Writers Week this year, the government will quite easily say oh okay, well you can have one next year too. You can pay for right a week.
01:03:01
Speaker 4: Well they do want public money for the gorilla one, do they?
01:03:04
Speaker 3: That's right? Well, you know, I did love all these good luck with that outspoken left is suddenly sending like Elon Musk on free speech. By the way too, I thought that was one of the most comical moments in the entire thing. Hey, let's take a quick break.
01:03:16
Speaker 2: David Penberthy and Wild Goodings five double a Breakfast joining.
01:03:20
Speaker 3: The studio by Matt Abraham watching on Facebook or the YouTube live stream the first time in twenty twenty six. Matt, we are a couple of months out from the state election. What's your assessment of how it's played out to this point in time and what's the next sort of big moment that's coming up.
01:03:38
Speaker 19: Well, I think I don't think we'll hear anything more from the government about Writers we know until after the election, which I think the government will win handsomely. It may win the Upper House as well. It's something really worth looking at. It's if it's a two party preferred or a primary vote, it stays as high as it is, we might see for the first time in a long time, controlling both houses after the election, though I do think just quickly, I don't think the government will have finished with Writers Week or the Adelaide Festival. We will have the Bell Royal Commission into Anti Semitism, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if the government refers, because governments can do this, but officially refers the Royal Commission to look into the impact of the cultural sector festivals on Australian attitudes towards the Jews, towards Zionus, towards Israel, towards anti Semitism, and that would be so we may be operating by the time the next Writer's Festival come around in a very different environment, you know, in terms of hate speech laws and a whole lot of other things. So put that aside. That's off the agenda for the government as they try and focus on this. I was actually having a look at the pendulum last night and also Anthony Green's breakdown, and you forget how messy the scene is, particularly for the Liberals, but it's going to be a messy state election. Actually on my pendulum, I've had to put a couple of little notes. There's not a lot of space there, so I just put J for jail for one former independents, the seat of mac Gambia's vacant. Another. I was just going to put AB for Ankle Bracelet who's hasn't resigned. That's Nick McBride and McKillop.
01:05:29
Speaker 3: You've got.
01:05:31
Speaker 19: Dan Cregan's who's retiring so that seats up for grabs. You've got bone running in Nord of listening driving in. I don't know why he didn't pick a seat that would possibly be winnable as an independent with.
01:05:48
Speaker 4: God bless him.
01:05:52
Speaker 19: I don't know why he's doing or why wouldn't stand for the Upper House actually probably have a chance of getting a quote a bit. I don't think that'll anywhere in Dunstan formerly Norwood. So certainly for the Liberals it's messy and there have been.
01:06:10
Speaker 3: Leaks.
01:06:11
Speaker 19: We don't know where these are coming from, but the Moniker it's a proton email so you can't trace it a source, but it's Ashton's circus. It comes through as Ashton Circus, which is a play obviously on Ashton's surname, and it has been leaking Shadow Cabinet documents. So I've been about four emails so far, three or four emails, and they've flagged an event that's coming up today, that sort of stuff. I don't know who's doing it. I don't know if it's just some rogue person in Parliament House who's not connected to a party but just hate the Liberals, or it's a disaffected Liberal, or it's part of the labor dirt unit. I sort of doubt that that's very high risk for the labor part, very high.
01:06:58
Speaker 4: It seems to be too much genuine Liberal Party material in it for it to be a labor person.
01:07:04
Speaker 19: Yeah, I agree, unless somebody's the world's worst photocopy clark like you've got to doesn't.
01:07:11
Speaker 4: Politics just attract total miscreants? Sitting in his mum's attic sending these emails?
01:07:19
Speaker 3: I just asked, who in the Liberal Party right now is a staffer working for a politician who feels as though the member they work for is so confident that they're going to remain in politics after the next election that they would seek to undermine Ashton Hearn. That must be one of what two people you are undermining to put yourself on the unemployment line. It is the most stupid undermining I've heard in my life.
01:07:45
Speaker 4: With polling showing they might hold three seats lucky.
01:07:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, who's so confident? You could probably whittle it down pretty quickly. I would have thought, do you reckon?
01:07:52
Speaker 4: The Other part of this is every single time Actionon Hearn releases a policy, it feels like the Malanowskis government has got about twenty seven highly paid ex journo media advisors on standby to kick it to death about it, like they just go so hard, like the limbs have basically got like who they got Ben Avery get there?
01:08:18
Speaker 3: Ye left, They've got like two people.
01:08:24
Speaker 4: So every time they put something out labor And this is the benefit of incumbency. In opposition, you rant about, oh the government spin unit. The moment you get in a government, you don't just keep the spin unit, you expand it. But it's it's like this sort of full court press where they deployed dozens, literally dozens of people to gang up on the staff of two sitting on a fold out table from Bunnings and the bowels of North Terrace.
01:08:50
Speaker 3: Exactly what happens.
01:08:52
Speaker 19: And actually, if you add up in government and you know throughout government there are hundreds of spin doctors. There are hundreds in every you know, the Department of Health.
01:09:02
Speaker 4: Have you still got your contact book map from the Bannon era?
01:09:06
Speaker 3: Yes?
01:09:06
Speaker 10: Yes?
01:09:07
Speaker 4: How many press sex did Bannon have?
01:09:09
Speaker 3: Uh?
01:09:11
Speaker 19: He had Mike Ran, he had Jill Botrull. This is in opposition or in government.
01:09:15
Speaker 4: When he became premier. When Bannon became premier, so that in the nine eighties.
01:09:20
Speaker 19: In his office. I think it was it was two people. Three yeah, yeah, two two, there were two and a strange guy who carried an old leather kit bag who organized a center I know that was with Bannon, organized a center left. I never knew what he did. That guy, you know, one of the old Sullivan's eras kit bags, the the other ones you know people used to have it on there. Well yeah, well, but apparently that's what he did with Ran. I think Rand had two press sex. But Rand didn't need more press sex because he was a manic spint on me.
01:09:51
Speaker 3: He got it when I was in my brief period of politics. The press Corps then was Channel Ten's political reporter was Adam Todd. Channel nine's was Tom Richardson. The chief political reporter at the Advertiser was Dan Wills. The chief political reporter at the ABC was Nick Harmson. Every single one of them works in Mally's office.
01:10:12
Speaker 10: Now.
01:10:12
Speaker 3: The only person who didn't was Mike Smithson.
01:10:14
Speaker 19: But smith smart.
01:10:22
Speaker 15: That's right.
01:10:25
Speaker 3: We're at about four minutes away from President National is making some kind of public statement about the coalition in this array. What's your expectation of what's going to happen.
01:10:32
Speaker 19: Well, I think Susan Lee will not be leader for much longer. Surely she can't be like, you know, what is it the first time the coalition that implodes is understandable the second time. So this is the second basically bust up of the coalition. So we'll cease to exist. The one nation vote sitting above the coalition vote for the first time.
01:10:59
Speaker 4: David Little Proudville, the Liz Taylor and Richard Burton.
01:11:02
Speaker 3: Of politics come back.
01:11:07
Speaker 19: One nation maybe interesting in South Australia, but I don't know where that's going. But and the coalition instability will not be helping the South Australian Liberals either. I do think there's a wash through on that.
01:11:19
Speaker 3: Sarah Games decision to leave the party because the branding was holding her backs aged like milk, isn't it.
01:11:25
Speaker 19: Yeah, that was a good move here.
01:11:28
Speaker 4: Bone get her out of trouble.
01:11:29
Speaker 3: That's not a problem there, Matt, Yes, spin, Yes, we need some spin, don't we.
01:11:37
Speaker 12: Yeah.
01:11:37
Speaker 3: I'm going to find my spin button. Haven't pushed it in a while anyway. Can you start talking.
01:11:45
Speaker 19: Let's let's start with Premier Peter Malinowskers and they got.
01:11:55
Speaker 3: Machine.
01:11:57
Speaker 19: Let's start with Premier Peter Malonawskus when he was whether he would say the sorry word.
01:12:04
Speaker 4: Well, the facts have now been proven and my principles haven't changed.
01:12:08
Speaker 14: Now, if other people are changing their position, that's for them to explain.
01:12:11
Speaker 4: But I won't do.
01:12:15
Speaker 3: Me what for.
01:12:18
Speaker 9: I'm not sure what for.
01:12:21
Speaker 4: I don't say that bulligiingly, I just don't know what for.
01:12:26
Speaker 19: Apology well me, I mean that's a zero spin. As we know Donald Trump's going to invade Greenland.
01:12:44
Speaker 4: It's just he's not.
01:12:46
Speaker 7: I don't tell me that it's changing.
01:12:50
Speaker 19: He's thank Evans. A share portfolio will be restored sometime later.
01:12:55
Speaker 3: Today graduations bounce back. But anyway, this is well.
01:12:59
Speaker 19: I thought it was the Norwegian prime minister speaking about Donald Trump, but it actually turns out to be somebody called Perno Harland.
01:13:08
Speaker 20: Okay, I just got a little text message from Trump Lambert, and he is not very happy. He's not interested in purely peace anymore, No, because he didn't get the Nobel Peace Price, so diplomacy now is just a participation trophy problem. He also writes he doesn't feel obligated to just think about peace. No, now he's just going to think about the United States of America. So he's basically saying he's a mad dog. Let off the leash. He then writes that he is seeking total control of Greenland. He should seek a brain scan. This guy thinks he's playing monopoly. I mean, I only have one thing to say, and that is.
01:13:53
Speaker 3: Well say that.
01:13:54
Speaker 19: Well, yes we can, because producer m Backbar tells me that's one of the favorite words, and it's careful.
01:14:02
Speaker 3: She's got a lot of favorite words. We can't say.
01:14:04
Speaker 21: I know well apparently, but it wouldn't melt in my mouth, but it just means oh dear, Okay, yeah, apparently Ignora.
01:14:17
Speaker 4: Thought so that's allegian.
01:14:18
Speaker 19: That's a comedian, by the way, doing a send up at an awegind promise Trump.
01:14:26
Speaker 7: I'll give him seven out of ten.
01:14:32
Speaker 3: Could have your back, matte.
01:14:33
Speaker 7: It should be the word of the year.
01:14:35
Speaker 2: Leave David Penberthy and Will Gooding's five double a breakfast.
01:14:39
Speaker 3: No, but it's after right, breaking ay coming up in just a moment, big hour ahead, breaking news as we speak. In fact, the Nationals leader David little Prowder is just front of a press conference in Canberra. He's a little bit of what he had to say.
01:14:53
Speaker 4: The National Party acted in good faith all the way along.
01:14:56
Speaker 5: We acted in good faith to get.
01:14:57
Speaker 4: To this position, but we could not be four interviting for a position.
01:15:02
Speaker 22: The National Party is our own sovereign party and Susan Lee cannot force us to vote one way or another.
01:15:08
Speaker 3: And when we have not.
01:15:09
Speaker 22: Breached any process, any procedure of the coalition, we've been respectful for then to get to a position where three of our senders, who in shadow kibnet spots, are being asked to resign.
01:15:23
Speaker 3: You heard a little bit of it there, but scathing Kevin Hogan, the Deputy Nationals leader, and David Little proud of Susan Lee, describing her role in this as mismanagement, real question marks around the viability of the coalition. It would appear to be being read its last rights as we speak, in fact, which leads us neatly into breaking it open.
01:15:46
Speaker 4: Well to discuss further what is very much a moving situation with the coalition and the future of the relationship between the Liberal and National parties, we're joined by one to South Australia's most senior and prominent Liberal Party voices, Conservative Senator Alex Antik is on the line now. Alex good morning, and thank you for your time. Asking you to give a real time praisy of where things are at might be putting you on the spot in a particularly cruel fashion. But can I ask you winding back, given the amount of criticism that Anthony Albanezi was facing post Bondi over his handling of everything from hate preachers to immigration, isis brides, what have you? How is it that the Coalition has ended up being the party the two parties that are now suffering the most politically from all of this.
01:16:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, good question, and a briefer one I think. I mean this was you know, people were rightly asking the question of the plot, what are you doing to the hand of the situation? And somehow that's swung around to this giant it's a kind of issue that's now facing us. So look, that should never have happened. In my view, the very simple way of avoiding that would have been to simply vote no to the original omnibus bill, the one that's covered over about four different sections of life and represented something like a twenty five year high point in terms of changes to our entire system. It's very simple. I mean, there was no time to consider it. And somehow there has been a decision made which gave us this sort of half way house, which turned a diabolical bill into a terrible one, and here we are talking about ourselves again. It's just incredibly frustrating. And look, I haven't caught up with what David has said. These are all matters for the Nationals. But the Nationals joined me and crossed the floor to vote against the hate group's bill is probably the better way of putting it, and so they should have. It was terrible war. It is terrible war and they shouldn't be punished for that.
01:18:00
Speaker 4: When you look at it in the broader context, with the surge and support for one Nation, do you think that the Liberals are suffering from a lack of clarity around their messaging on issues that people are genuinely energized by, such as immigration.
01:18:18
Speaker 5: Well, Pembo, I mean, you know, far beat from me to point out that I'm right once again. But I'm right once again and two years ago, and I think I copped them. I don't really listen to most of it, but I copped a bit of a spray from the media. Here an essay about a preselection speech where I said to the pre selectors of the Liberal Party that one nation we're breathing down our throat because of the manner in which we go about politics and the fact that we're not dealing with common sense Australia, and that got me heavily criticized for being alarmist. I think one Nation in essay or polling somewhere between eleven and sixteenth didn't quite flush out during the federal election, but still they're now polling, according to the news Pole at twenty because they're showing the blueprint for where the Liberal Party should be. I mean, too long this party has been controlled by the managerial class and not pugilistic politicians who take the fight up like Pauline does. Frankly. I mean, you know, she's not everyone's cup of tea, but she seems to be resonating. And by the way, we're not talking about someone with a political science decree. We're not talking about some plucky twenty five year old political staffer that came up through the ranks. We're talking about a lady that ran a fish and chip shop. So this nonsense that politics is science and science is politics has got to stop. The analysis paralysis is over I think that's what happened in Campbell. I think during the week, I think that the sensible position was just simply to reject this bill on a range of levels. Hadn't had enough time that was one option. Terrible war that was another option. But somehow we chose the middle door and went straight through the cabinet into Narnia.
01:19:50
Speaker 3: The case you make about the attractiveness of Pauline Hanson and One Nation Senator is the one that some nationals are contemplating when it comes to their future political allegiance, and theres reports that there are others that are either actively or maybe day dreaming about a switch to One Nation. You're saying that should be the blueprint for the Liberal Party into the future. Is it something you've contemplated. No, no, it's not.
01:20:14
Speaker 5: I mean, as you well know, and as we've all talked about, my vision for the political future of this date was to bring common sense people back into politics. We've been doing that for five years in the Liberal Party and we've got a membership that now I think reflects common sense Australia. And so that's what I think works, because ultimately you need to have a democratic organization that does its pre selection properly and pre select the right candidate. The problem has been that politics has been tending people to Canberra, and this is the point I was trying to illustrate there for too long, through the Labor Party, through the union movement, and almost everybody in both Parliament has just been a trade unionist or a political staff now and this is what you get, you know, if you're not like I mean, this was blatantly obviously. Aside from the fact that voting no to this bill as I did was the right thing to do, it was plainly obvious to me from the conversations that I've been having and what I was seeing online, by the way, on platforms like X that people didn't want this. And look at what's happened. We were inundated yesterday with people ringing in the office and saying thank you. Now, that's not the purpose of this, but there's just sort of this inability in some ranks of politics to put the ear to the ground and feel the vibrations, and you know, focused groups of polling don't do that. That needs to stay away from politics in the future if we're to have any other We've just.
01:21:28
Speaker 3: Been sent a little bit more of David Little proud to what he had to say. Let's have a listen.
01:21:32
Speaker 22: She will not, and from subsect conversations, will not reinstate those three senators to the shadow cabinet positions. Therefore the entire ministry resigned. But she has also forced the coalition into an untenable position that can no longer continue.
01:21:49
Speaker 3: The coalition is untenable and cannot continue. What's your reaction to that, Alex Well, it.
01:21:55
Speaker 5: Feels like groundhog Day, doesn't We dealt with this earlier in the year. And Look, I mean I understand the frustrat. I hope that's not right by the way. I hope there's a way through that, obviously. I mean, I don't think there's much chance for either side of governing if the coalition does evaporate, and so something's got to happen, Something's got to change. We need, you know, we need leadership to step up and arrest the slide. I mean, this is you know, this is getting critical.
01:22:19
Speaker 4: Just finally, Sendada Antick. Do you think Susan League can or indeed should survive as later?
01:22:26
Speaker 5: Look, I you know, as you know, I don't like to drift into political yabbering, but I mean that genuinely is a matter of the party room. I don't know, I don't know. I think this has been a very bad week for us all, and you know that always has to have a bearing on leadership aspirations for better or worse. So look, we'll see where it goes. I don't know really what the future holds now, but you know, it's a bad week. We've had four news polls in a row.
01:22:53
Speaker 2: Now.
01:22:53
Speaker 5: It used to be the case that leaders lived and died on the basis of one, so I'm not suggesting that's what's to happen here, but it's a pretty dark hour.
01:23:03
Speaker 4: Senator alexanderik South, Australian Liberal senator, thank you for joining us this morning. Tell you what that last chance is about? Is Luke warm as an artissement.
01:23:15
Speaker 3: Coupled with his second last answer about you know, these things require strong leadership. I think it's clear and I don't think he would be an orphan with those thoughts at the moment. I think most rank and file Liberal voters out there right now recognize there is a critical shortage of leadership and there needs to be a change. I think we've just reached that point.
01:23:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the level of frustration coming through from those listeners who are among the number who are traditional conservative supporters. I think that the word despair doesn't even come close to describing how they're all feeling at the moment. We pushed our other original breaking at eight back amazing developments within the notorious CFMU, the militant Construction Union and it's Victimorian leadership with a sudden resignation yesterday of Zack Smith, who is the Melbourne based was the Melbourne based secretary of the Construction Union. Why does that matter here in Adelaide, Well, it matters because of the South Australian CFMU, since its takeover by John Seca a few years ago, is still run out of Victoria. What does this mean for the local building industry and for people working in construction. We've got Will Frogley, the see of the Master Builders on the line. Now, well, this is total chaos and doesn't it show the need for us to have our own locally run CFMU rather than it being run by the much rattier branch over the border.
01:24:47
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:24:48
Speaker 10: Absolutely.
01:24:48
Speaker 23: David the administrator said quite a while ago that he wanted South Australia to be a standalone branch free from Victorian influence. But we're all waiting for that day to happen. Zack Smith's resignateation Yesterday's met more chaos and dysfunction from the Victorian CFMU. You know, this is a man who ignored the administrator's instructions not to meet with organized crime figures. We've also seen the head of the Victorian cfmu's redundancy fund inco Link, resigned recently. So look, I don't think they're ever going to be able to withstand the pressure of the new environment. The Victorian CFMU was able to do whatever the hell they wanted for a long time and it's a very difficult organization to reform the Victorian construction industry. As you said, he's absolutely notorious for its high insolvency rate. It's corruption and it's links to organized crime.
01:25:37
Speaker 5: And that's why a few.
01:25:38
Speaker 23: Years ago we're very public about our concerns about the Victorian CFMU taking over the South Australian construction industry. And I guess you know a few years later, as a proud South Australian, my heart really swells with pride. But we as a state have emphatically rejected the Victorian CFMU and what they stand for, you know, the criminal behavioritizing of Victorian businesses and workers over our own and sending money to Victoria. They were very arrogant when they came in, David. They thought they could just do whatever the hell they wanted here as well, and we would just be a pushover. One of the very first things that Victorian CFMU did when they took over the South Australian branch was try and quietly move all their insurance work out of Adelaide to an office the office of a broker in Melbourne. In Melbourne who pays tens of millions of dollars a year to the Victorian cfmu's redundancy fund, income Link and Incolink, as we've discussed before, gives millions and millions and millions of dollars to Victorian CFMU every year. At worst of all that the CFMU didn't advise South Australian workers or employers of these changes to their insurance setup. So for quite a few months, South Australian workers and employers had no idea that the workers were left uninsured. They had no income protection insurance Now that was a really low act and I think word got around the industry pretty quickly, and I'm sure that's why Incolink has failed to gain any traction here in CFMU memberships plummeted.
01:27:03
Speaker 4: Just finally, will is the cfmei u's structure, its internal structure going to how states are run a matter solely for the union or is there a role for the state government, particularly given labour's historic links to the labor movement, to intervene and say that as a matter of principle, South Australian construction workers should be represented by a locally managed and operated union.
01:27:29
Speaker 23: I think the state government wouldn't have the power to do that, but I think the administrator certainly has. The fact is that the CFMU has very little support in South Australia, and that's why we've got a record number of construction workers in South Australia, a record number of construction businesses and a record value of work done.
01:27:46
Speaker 24: So.
01:27:47
Speaker 23: Having said that workers do need a reputable union, but.
01:27:51
Speaker 4: They particularly need it, they say, don't they on the big jobs where you've got the multiplexes and so on, who for whatever reason feel pressured or obliged to cut deals with the CFMAU as per the big building going up at the Central Market and so forth.
01:28:05
Speaker 23: Look at Masters, I say, we just won't deal with the CFMAU until they run by South strains who actually have some pride in the state and are reputable and not just pushing a pro Victorian agenda. Look, some people will say to me, David, I look, will you have to cut deals with them? You have to have relationships with them. But that's easy for people to stay from the sidelines. The fact is, if you're having a good relationship with the Victorians CFMU and you're cutting deals with them, there's a decent chance you're doing something illegal and that's just not a parth I'm going to go down.
01:28:32
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:28:33
Speaker 4: Absolutely, history would suggest as much. Will Frangly to see I have the Master Builders Association.
01:28:38
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast.
01:28:43
Speaker 3: Twenty seven after eight in the lead up to what is going to be a scorching hot Australia Day Long weekend this weekend, we're celebrating incredible local SA seafood that we all know and love. This is going to be a lot of fun. On Friday morning, Ned McHenry will be bringing his freshest catch to the five double A kitchen and you're going to be looking up a secret dish with him. This is going to be a lot of fun. You can watch it along on the Facebook and YouTube live stream.
01:29:04
Speaker 4: You know how, I've got a one man war against the term foodie.
01:29:08
Speaker 3: I had that term.
01:29:09
Speaker 4: It's an elitist term. It makes it sound like food is something that is by definition pretentious, expensive, that it's all about showing off in a very anti food fashion. I am going to do a super simple, super cheap recipe that treats our excellent local seafood with the utmost respect. And it's a Rick Stein recipe and he gave me off the top of his head in this very studio about twelve years ago.
01:29:35
Speaker 3: Well, you can watch it all on the live stream tomorrow, Facebook and YouTube and it's all thanks to brand Essay, support Local and by the best by SA Seafood. Just recapping the breaking news of the last thirty minutes. The coalition is no more. The Nationals leader David little Proud said the Nationals cannot be part of a shadow ministry under Susan Lee and that the party will sit by ourselves in the Parliament. He was asked a follow up question by a journalist. He said, is that a threat? And David little Proud said no, it's done. He said, I rang her about half an hour ago, told her that the party room's decision was final, that unless those three senators were reinstated immediately, that she had forced the coalition into an untenable position.
01:30:13
Speaker 4: Unmitigated disaster. Is the vibe on the text line. A lot of messages too about the surge in One Nation people such as Andrew saying things like this, the One Nation Party is now the party for conservative voters due to what's been a weak opposition for a long time. I would expect the numbers to rise even further after this one here is saying what's wrong with the Libs? They clearly should have voted known to this. Jane on the other hand, can't believe it and says crikey, I'd never be desperate enough to vote One Nation, and Ian, quoting Oscar Wilde, says the second implosion of the Liberals is carelessness. Thank you for that, ye.
01:30:53
Speaker 3: Susan Lee's believes a statement two in which she says, look, why are we doing this? Today it should be the national day of morning and on that front, the Prime Minister is currently conducting a press conference in Canberra. We will be talking more about that on the other side of five double A News and certainly taking more of your feedback on what is extraordinary day in Australian politics. Eight double two three double O double as the number you can text us on zero before eight zero Waight thirty ninety five David.
01:31:16
Speaker 2: Penberthie and Will Goodings five double A Breakfast.
01:31:20
Speaker 3: Twenty minutes to nine. It's the most anticipated bed smell in South Australia. Smelling e the corpse flower the Botanic Gardens still hasn't still hasn't flowered. We're going to find out why. We'll be speaking with an expert before nine o'clock. This might part of the issues. It's still growing. Apparently it's a stopped growing before it flowers. And they go in a measure it in the morning and I grew another centimeter. Does it grow that fast? It's like it's the equivalent of the groundhog. I think you know people wait, it's going to see a shadow?
01:31:47
Speaker 4: Is that a job that you cover or you'd be repulsed by being in charge of measuring the corpse.
01:31:52
Speaker 3: Flat an infamously smelly plant.
01:31:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, does it smell when it's not flowering? All these and other questions.
01:31:57
Speaker 3: Will be able.
01:31:58
Speaker 4: We will find out more getting Ready'd love to hear from our listeners. What's your Saturday strategy, folks? How are you going to How are you going to deal with the forty two degrees? There's not so much that it's just Saturday. It's the entire weekend. I mean, Sunday's barely any major respite from it, and then we're back in it again on Monday with forty one.
01:32:14
Speaker 3: But where are you going? What are you doing? It's Monday night into Tuesday morning that I'm least looking forward to out of the whole thing.
01:32:22
Speaker 4: Oh, there's going to be some tired, smelly kids being picked up Tuesday afternoon from the first.
01:32:27
Speaker 3: Day twenty eight the overnight low having come out of a period of forty two thirty four forty on Tuesday twenty eighty low.
01:32:36
Speaker 4: All of ourses are going to be like pizza ovens, folks.
01:32:39
Speaker 3: It's going to be a if you do have a good strategy for dealing with it, We're all e is this morning eight double two three double O, double oh is the number. Today is a national day of Morning to honor the victims and all those impacted by the Bondi Beach terrorist attack. The government have put out some recommendations about how you might like to mark the occasion, including leaving a candle on your doorstep or window. There will be a moment a minute silence at six thirty one Adelaide Time tonight. Norman Schuler is the from the Jewish Community Council of South Australia and joins us now Norm good morning to.
01:33:15
Speaker 13: You, Good morning David, and good morning Will and one into all five double A listeners.
01:33:22
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, Norman. How is your community getting on barely five weeks after the terrible events in Bonbai.
01:33:30
Speaker 13: It's learning to survive and that there will be another day. Those images of that we have in our minds for what took place at Onondai will never be raised from our minds. Certain individuals there that were murdered, well it beg us believe that that could happen in Australia, over civilized country, and well it's paramount in our minds. We've got to get on and we've got to make Australia a better place for all Australians.
01:34:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I think rightfully.
01:34:13
Speaker 3: I imagine the community would feel let down by the powers that be, by the representatives and the federal government. Is there any sense that the community has been let down in the aftermath by the broader Australian community.
01:34:26
Speaker 13: Well, it was let down right from let us say October the ninth, sure, when we were displaced at the Opera House.
01:34:35
Speaker 5: The fore court of the Opera House.
01:34:37
Speaker 13: Opera House was lit up in blue and white and the Australian a Jewish community, the New Southwest Jewish community were having a vigils. They were told to leave by the police because they felt they could not defend them against the number of Palestinians coming there. That is intrinsically wrong, that should never have happened. The police needed to bring in reinforcement or bringing in the army, whatever it may be. From then on it was downhill. You had the preachers in the streets preaching hatred, preaching death. They were talking about that was broadcast right around the country. The media were broadcast in the fellow in Sydney were behind so is a Jew and he must be killed and that is that that sort of thing should have not been allowed to occur. And that is now what I think has been fixed to a certain extent in Parliament yesterday, and the organizations like his Buttoria and Neonatis have been prescribed. And these are organizations that pedal hate that's so division and promote Rachel Willow racial versification.
01:36:05
Speaker 16: And.
01:36:07
Speaker 13: This is totally un Australian people come to Australia to get away from something, they want to better their lives. This is not the as it's very shortly, it'll be sixty years since I've been here in a couple of months time, and when I've when I first came, when I the cohesive community, there are certain things parts of that, but of course my minor negatives. But we didn't have these enormous outpourings of hate and willing death upon certain people.
01:36:52
Speaker 4: Normal for people who do want to make some sort of gesture and solidarity with Australia's Jewish community, and more broadly, the fact that this was an outrage to all Australians who value peace and human human respect and dignity. What's what's what sort of things can we do tonight? What's the what's the format for this commemoration.
01:37:17
Speaker 13: The commemoration will be both a priest and a rabbi leading prayers together in Saint Peter's Church in North Adelaide.
01:37:30
Speaker 2: And.
01:37:32
Speaker 13: There obviously will be a candle lit. The government has suggested that people will light a candle this evening at home, put it in their doorway or their window and you may recollect. On a previous interview with you post BONDI I said to on every interview that I did, please when you go home tonight, light a candle in the sanctity of your own home, and just to think about the people who can't do that right at the moment, and the families that are suffering, and the people who sent me photographs of them doing that. It was heartwarming. And since then, since Bonde, then the outpouring of understanding and sympathy from many Australians really really heartwarming.
01:38:33
Speaker 4: No, I'm sure the head of the Jewish Community Council obviously out Australia, thank you for joining us this morning, Thanks for having me. A lot of good texts coming through with suggestions, will we put the call out earlier? How are you going to deal with the heat over the weekend, I'll tell you what Spira thought for Die. She says, we're on Nankeita Road at Mount Compass, so we'll be spending a very nervous weekend. How Sprinkler's going. Andrew says, I'll be staying inside, having a few beers with the air conditioner and the tennis on. Sounds like a good strategy, Jackie. I'll be walking the dog at six am. I'll be home by six thirty am, trying to keep the garden and the humans alive. Helen simply says our great mate, Helen and Glennell North. He says, easy, I'm doing bugger all.
01:39:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good strategy. Helen and Trish, HARKing back to our comments earlier from our Tarcoola listener, says, I'll be heading to Tarcoola to take advantage of their cool change. A cool change, for those that missed it earlier, was that he dropped in the forecast, says at the top of forty eight. One day a late change comes in and the next day the top is forty five.
01:39:38
Speaker 2: David Penberthie and World Goodings five double a Breakfast nine minutes to nine.
01:39:43
Speaker 3: An ex guest is one of the best titles I think of any guests we've had on in quite some time. Matt Coulter is the horticultural curator for Plant Propagation, joining us on five double A Breakfast to talk about Smelanie smell Anye by name, but not yet by Natu're waiting for the corpse flower to flower. Matt, good morning to.
01:40:00
Speaker 24: You, Good morning, how are you going?
01:40:02
Speaker 3: We actually wanted to clarify that does it smell before it flowers?
01:40:07
Speaker 24: No, so it's only for the two day period that it opened, so there's no smell domain. But yet the time when it actually starts to open, when the smell is start produced and it will be over a two day period then be finished, so it's quite a quick time that it happens.
01:40:22
Speaker 4: So, Matt, the reason that the that the flour produces this this stench is it a pollination strategy to attract insects Exactly.
01:40:29
Speaker 5: It's all about pollination.
01:40:30
Speaker 24: So the plant has both male and female flowers on it, but it doesn't it can't pollinate itself, so it's evolved so it actually doesn't inbreed, so basically to get the pollen from a different flower to come into it, it actually has this smell, so it engages the insect for and there might be somewhere it might they eggs on the carcass thing as dead animal. So it will go out into the forest and I'll go on one flower and then come to the other flower, and then the pollen gets dispersed that way.
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Speaker 5: So it's any way it.
01:40:58
Speaker 24: Can get pollinated, and you have to think like you can grow. It can take anywhere up to ten years to get the get the first flower and it's only got that one night. They can get polinated. It puts all this energy into it to actually make sure it happens.
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Speaker 4: It's just the most incredible plant, is it? What sort of plant is it?
01:41:15
Speaker 15: Is it?
01:41:16
Speaker 4: Is it a bromeliad?
01:41:17
Speaker 10: What is it?
01:41:18
Speaker 12: Now?
01:41:18
Speaker 24: It's what we call an aroid So it's in the people may know things like madonna lilies or philodendron, so it's in that aroid plant family. So yeah, it's basically a tropical plant family. There's a couple that occur in northern Australia, a couple of species, but yeah, generally it's in Asia and through to Africa. But this plant is endemic to sematra. Any place in the world that it occurs. And now, as you said, yeah, it's quite an amazing plant and it's quite I'm really fascinated by it, and I think people are as well.
01:41:47
Speaker 4: It looks like something out of diaetric. It's a bit, doesn't it.
01:41:50
Speaker 24: It does a bit, doesn't it.
01:41:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't come to life. What sort of crowd are you expecting.
01:41:57
Speaker 24: Anytime we show We know we're get anywhere between five to tent and people, and you know that could be sometimes planning up for two to three hours. So it's quite amazing to see people interested and people are really fascinated by it because yeah, it's really quite different and because it comes from the tropics in here in South Australia really is the botendent gardens at any place that you would be able to see. This planet can grow in the northern parts of Australia, but in South australa wouldn't grow outside our specialized glasshouses. And we have a nursery up at the Mount Lofty Botannic Guns where we house these plants and when they're ready to floil, that's when we bring them down. So we've got a climate controlled glasshouse to simulate the Martian rainforest.
01:42:36
Speaker 4: So Is it in the glasshouse in the center of the gardens where the Amazon lallies are.
01:42:40
Speaker 24: No, it's in the big bi Centennial conservatory, so right, yeah, so it's in that big one. And that's a really good space for people to come to it because as you're sort of moving down the line, you get to see it from quite a distance away. So and then sort of like an anticipation before you get to see an other places show up, you know, you basically just wait outside the glasshouse and you come in and then you go out. So I think the Bisenten con Servage is a really good space to be able to view it.
01:43:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome.
01:43:08
Speaker 4: So the Hackney Road entrance is the one you want to get in there.
01:43:12
Speaker 24: Yeah, the Plane Tree drive and yeah that's correct.
01:43:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, excellent, excellent.
01:43:15
Speaker 24: Well good on you plant though, isn't it?
01:43:17
Speaker 1: Yeah?
01:43:17
Speaker 3: Really?
01:43:19
Speaker 4: How tall is it's?
01:43:21
Speaker 24: It's the measurement this morning had it. It's over it's about two point one five meters well, and that's and there's another seventy centimeters below that that's the roots and the tuber. So if you put those two together, you know you're looking at something that's like maybe two point eight meters.
01:43:38
Speaker 4: Tour hard to fit it in the green bin. When it's done, it's business.
01:43:42
Speaker 24: Another amazing thing about when you look at it, like ten weeks ago, all that structure will have been below the soil or all that. Yeah, so that's all happened in the ten week period and in the growth phase that it does in like the two week period of when grew one point two it is in two weeks.
01:44:02
Speaker 3: You stood there long enough, you just about to see it move. That's amazing.
01:44:05
Speaker 24: Yeah, it's really incredible plant.
01:44:07
Speaker 3: It's amazing. Well, that's why so many thousands of people will turn up to see it. What alfully he does? Flower and smell it? Matt Colter, the Holt Culture Curator for Plant Propagation. You can go and see it the bicy Turn Conservatory. You're right, it looks like it's been dropped off the set from the nineteen seventies William Shatton a Star Trek show. Doesn't it like it's like the low Budge version made out of rubber or something.
01:44:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we would be fighting something made out of cardboard boxes covered in ol foil. It's just an extraordinary What if it flowers on Saturday? Though? How hot would it be inside the By Centennial Conservatory.
01:44:42
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