OMG Canada! | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

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you, JT. I don't believe it. Good morning. I
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don't even know what you guys are talking about.
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This is DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl
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Thomas. It is Thursday, September 24th, 2026.
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Today on the docket, to give you an idea how
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crazy international relationships have become,
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Prime Minister Mark Carney says that Canada is
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preparing for military action by the United States
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and Donald Trump against Canada. That's
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not in a rag. Well, maybe it's in a rag, but
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it's in The New York Times. Another U.S. citizen
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misidentified as a legal immigrant has been brutalized
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by ICE this time in Evanston, Illinois. That's
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south of Chicago. They even broke out his teeth.
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We'll talk about that. Two U.S. senators, well,
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one U.S. senator and a U.S. senatorial
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hopeful, are in deep shit this morning. We talked
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a little bit, Jamarl, you brought up Susan Collins
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and the troubles that she's facing relating to
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allegations that she broke federal campaign law
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in a very serious way. That's now being added
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by another New York Times report. This is Mary
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Peltola, who's the Democratic nominee for the
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U.S. Senate in Alaska. She basically is being
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accused of being another Amy Klobuchar mean girl.
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It's funny because we just brought up Amy Klobuchar
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yesterday in the show, apropos of nothing in
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particular, and this just came up. So it's funny
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how that comes up. We are here Monday through
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Friday, 9 a.m. Eastern time. Mondays, Wednesdays,
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and Fridays we go a full two hours to 11.
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On Tuesdays and Thursdays we have the TMI Show
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at 10 a.m. So that cuts us off at 10 a.m. On
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Fridays I have the DMZ podcast and don't
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forget seven to nine Monday through Friday in
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the morning. That's Eastern time to tune in
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Jamarl's show solo. Okay that's a lot. Please
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like, follow and share the show. Please continue
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to support the show. Okay, good morning Jamarl. How
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are you doing this morning? I'm doing fine. I'm
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doing fine. I want to add one more story to it
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and it's not that this person is in trouble. It's
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just intrigue. Kyrsten Sinema. Did you hear the
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thing about her and the bodyguard? Where the
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bodyguard apparently trashed her place, $200,000
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worth of damage. Apparently she likes artwork.
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She has a lot of artwork that ended up at the
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bottom of the swimming pool. Yeah, he basically
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wanted her to post something on Twitter. But
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I don't know what he wanted her to post on Twitter,
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and she told him no, and he flipped out. Now,
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just for the audience, just in case they don't
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know, she was having a bit of an affair with
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her bodyguard. I saw the guy, and I thought to
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myself, she couldn't do better than this. I'm
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sorry. I saw the guy, and I thought, when you
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look at the mugshot, and I was like, this is
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the guy? Yeah. Look, she's not. She has
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a certain something, right? She's not
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a classic beauty, but. But there's
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something there that I like. She does. She's
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sexy. No question she is. Now when people
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say can you be pretty and not sexy, she's an example
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of, I mean can you be sexy without being pretty.
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She's not ugly but she's not pretty but she's
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definitely sexy. And he's, I think
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this reminds me when Arnold Schwarzenegger got
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with his nanny and I saw a picture
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of her I was like she was just what was lying
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around. When I saw the Kyrsten
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Sinema 39-year-old dude, I was like, man, that
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guy looks like he sleeps hard sometimes. It was
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like, whoa. Although, mugshot is never a great
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moment. True, but I can't see a good moment for
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this guy. No, I'm agreeing. I'm extrapolating.
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Clean him up, Ricki Lake makeover. I'm like,
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hmm. Still don't see it. By the way, did you
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see the woman who was arrested? The woman was
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arrested for having sex in Florida with the family
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dog. And she had a great mugshot. And she's a
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dog fucker. Alleged dog fucker. And she definitely
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broke. She didn't go the Nick Nolte route. She
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looked great in the mugshot. Yeah. Well
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that dog obviously had it coming. He was. I didn't
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know that TMI got moved up. It's a confusing
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time. I never thought I'd live to see a time when the government
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of Canada would have to prepare itself, steel
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itself against a U.S. military attack from the
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U.S. But here we are. Well, that is a time-honored,
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in fairness though, Ted, that is a time-honored
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tradition. Canada twice.
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The last time was in the 1850s. We nearly went to
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war over... went to war with the British Empire
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over a pig. Look it up. It was a crisis. A Canadian
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farmer shot an American pig and damn it, it started
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a war. Yeah, that's true. But this is North America,
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where if it happened before Tuesday, nobody remembers
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it. This is America. What are you talking about?
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It happened yesterday. No one knows. That's true.
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Very true. How do y'all think my mugshot would
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look? Brutally honest. Pretty much the way you
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always look. I'm hoping I would smile. Well,
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a smile is a good idea because that picture is
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going to be all over the place. Well, it depends
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on how they get you in there for the mugshot. It's
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like, is this your last-stand mugshot? Or is
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this a... I always assume it's my last
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stand. I'd like to take a page out of the apostle.
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My favorite one is the Frank Sinatra one that's
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in every pizza parlor where he's just
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sort of like, what. What's the... He'd
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polish it off. I don't even remember what he was
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arrested for. Neither do I, but
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Sinatra, Sammy Davis, all those guys had mob ties
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and stuff like that so who knows. But I don't
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think this had anything to do with it. I think
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it was something like maybe shoplifting
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or something stupid like that. Oh you mean when
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he was a kid? Yeah. You've seen it. He's
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very young. And he's, he
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aged great. He always looked great. But
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yeah he's such a man. I always think to myself
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Sinatra's thing is a man's man.
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Jill Scott is a woman's woman. When
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they're doing their albums, their music, it's
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very unapologetically a man. Men would always
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that type of true. Oh God, man, he's so good.
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Yeah, let's talk about Canada. Let's talk about
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Canada. All right, let's get... Is Carney playing
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to his audience in this? And just for the audience,
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he was having an interview with The New York Times
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and in The New York Times piece Carney made the
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point of saying it would be irresponsible if
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I didn't prepare for potential military
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attack by the U.S. It's a tail risk but still
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you have to prepare for it because a long-tail
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risk he used, which is that term which is sort
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of like a dot-com term. Yeah. Is he
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playing to his Canadian base? Is that what this
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is? Look, hey we have to pretend
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we have to potentially prepare for an invasion
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by Trump. He threatened Greenland with military
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force. He's threatening South America with
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military force. He put out the map of all of Canada
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and South America and even British colonies
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and French colonies that are supposed to be American
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territory. So we got to prepare for this. Okay,
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but the U.S. hasn't built up any military force
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to attack Canada. Yeah, but we don't really need
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to. In the doctrine of preemption,
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you're allowed to attack if your enemy's forces
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are massed on the border. Right. Okay. But we're
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the United States. We're already massed on the
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border. We're right
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there. But don't you have to build up some military
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contingent to go after Canada if you're going
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to do it? I would think honestly, I have a feeling
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that this is probably something the U.S. could
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take care of over a weekend. It's so
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sparsely populated, right? There's
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50 percent of the economic. I think that's
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right. But a very, very high percentage of economic
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activity in Canada is all in Quebec, right? So
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if you merely control Montreal and Quebec City,
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the game's half over. And if you
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can't imagine Ottawa is going to be terribly
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difficult to get rid of. So if you have Ontario
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and Quebec provinces, and even then you don't
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need the northern parts at all. That's just tundra
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where bears live. That's it. Game over.
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You don't care about Vancouver. You can scoop
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it up later. We should take it. That's
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probably. Look, I read this in a number
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of ways. Like you, I would imagine this is also
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for Canadian domestic consumption. And rightfully
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so. The Canadians are stirred up and
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it's not without cause. Whip them up. Whip them
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up. Yeah. And on the other hand, this is also
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that thing where governments have
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to have contingency plans for every possible
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thing, right? So right now the United States I
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guarantee you has an invasion plan in a dusty
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file cabinet somewhere for the U.S. invasion
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and occupation of Vanuatu. And we have,
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what if we're attacked by Cuba? Who
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knows, right? So the Canadians
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are no different. They're a real country. They
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have a military. They have to have contingency
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plans. And he was clear about saying this
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is not like we don't think this is going to happen,
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but just in case. But I thought the mere fact
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that he could bring this up, and he's not a stupid
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man. In an interview with The New York Times,
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tells me. This isn't a message
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for a Canadian audience
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who are reading the Toronto Star.
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This is for an American audience.
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This is how much I'm telling you guys how much
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you guys have scared us and how pissed off we
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are. Yeah, well, scared the world. Yeah.
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Donald Trump threatened to attack Greenland.
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Right. Right. And the Greenlanders are more to
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the point. The Danes rolled. Yeah. So
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it's not like we're just going after brown people
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or we're just going after Persians. It's not
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that. We are putting the world on notice. Again,
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when Donald Trump put that map out. Our imperialism
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isn't racist. Right. We have equity in our militarism.
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Give him credit. He's equal opportunity.
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He's like, hey I like that too. Yeah. But we're
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white people we don't care. That's cool. Yeah it's
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like fair enough. He's equal opportunity. He's not
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being racist about it. Good for him on that.
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From an economic standpoint it makes sense.
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Canada has all this tar sand, has a
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crap ton of natural resources that we want that
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we need that we covet. And to the point,
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JT, think about this. And those bear rugs are going
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to look nice on our sofa. Whenever I play Civilization,
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and I've got to know about you. By the way, we've
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got to pick up our Civilization game again. Do
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you ever spawn and you're right there next to
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a neighbor who's huge with a crap ton of resources,
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no military, you're sitting right there like,
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I want that. Do you ever just go across the border?
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What can they do? Do you ever just go across
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the border when you play Civ and take it? If
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so, that's a human condition. It's like we were
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giving them the option of being a governor. You
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didn't want to take that. We tried. And at that
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point you say, hey man, we feel under threat
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by Canadian Mounties. That's so funny, right?
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We think Canada has nuclear weapons and we can't
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allow Canada to have nukes. This was
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literally, wasn't it some Bill Murray movie or
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something? Like in the 70s or 80s where Canada
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invades the US? Yeah. So it's literally it. It's
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literally a joke. Literally, it was a comedy
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routine. That's where the Bill Clinton-Monica
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Lewinsky thing came from. The wag the dog thing.
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The idea that the U.S. played up as if Canada
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was going to invade America in order to get away
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from a scandal that was taking place in America.
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That's where it made it, right? Wag the Dog,
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I think. Wag the Dog, yeah. And that's where
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the phrase came from. When Bill Clinton was trying
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to... They claimed that Bill Clinton launched
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airstrikes in order to distract from Monica Lewinsky
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and wag the dog. Yeah, the Canadian thing. Look,
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I'm being tongue in cheek when I say we should
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take Canada. I hope so. But that is what we did
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to Greenland. And that is what we did to Venezuela.
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That is what we did to Iran. And what we're about
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to do to Cuba. That's what we did to Mexico.
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This is not a new
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phenomenon. Right. No, but the thing is, will
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it stick? Anyone,
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as the Afghans can tell you, anyone can invade,
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but can you occupy? And occupation is hard. So
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I mean. Just to be clear, I'm not truly
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suggesting we should invade Canada. I just want
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to make sure. I don't want people to like Jamarl
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saying we should take Greenland and Canada.
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No, no. Look, we can't even run our own country.
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Right. Are you kidding? This
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country is a cesspool with
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declining birth, with declining infant, with
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rising infant mortality. We can't send our kids
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to college anymore. Everyone's broke.
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The economy's a disaster. And just you wait.
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And yeah, no, it's nuts.
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We should do some comments and then yes.
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All right hold on let me just say this real quick.
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Wouldn't, if we're going to be
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fighting wars and stuff,
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building an empire, would it make sense to actually
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take over a country that would benefit us? Instead
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of occupying Afghanistan for 20 years, which
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you got nothing out of, at least Canada would
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give something of material benefit to the empire,
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unlike Afghanistan. So you can at least make
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the logical choice. And think about all of the
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illegal pot that comes across the northern border.
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That's a massive national security issue because
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Americans don't grow their own pot. It's all
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coming from Canada. You've got to stop it. Wait,
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wait. Pot's coming? I don't think that's true
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at all. No, you're throwing pot. First
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of all, the Canadian climate isn't good for pot.
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Trust me, I live in Montana. But also, the vast
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majority of the weed that's sold on the street
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in the United States originates now in legal
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grow houses, right? Basically, since legalization,
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there's overproduction, and they can't sell enough
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of it through legal dispensaries. So it's mostly
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just dumped on the street. So most of the weed
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you can get from Joe Bob is perfectly
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good. It's the same you can buy at the dispensary
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because it's a great market. You'll buy weed
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off the street at this point. Those taxes. I just
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don't get why. Look man,
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I'd love it cheaper. Yeah there's no taxes on
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no. Yeah. Believe me, street weed, I don't
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buy it, but I know someone who does. I know someone
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who does, and the same shit is literally half
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the price, and it's the same shit. It's not the
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same shit, though. If I go to the weed shop,
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and I say, hey, I would like Thai lights. And
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they say, okay, well, here's your container of
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Thai lights. And Thai lights may be expensive,
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right? Or Northern Lights. Dispensary weed is
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expensive. Yeah, but it's the same exact stuff.
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It's not the same thing. They're different products.
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They're different types. It's the same product
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because it's grown in the same exact facility,
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usually in California. Ted, there are so many
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different brands of weed. I know. I've been to
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dispensaries. I know. Right. I guess I'm saying
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it's not the same. If I'm going in, for example,
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if somebody says, I want something from New Rock.
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You can order that specific strain, though. And
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in New York City, for example, it'll be
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delivered to you. Right. From a street vendor.
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Is that what you're saying? From yeah, yeah exactly.
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Usually you go out they text you they say come
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out into the street a guy drives by hands it
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to you and he's selling it off the street. He's
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not selling it from a dispensary. No. Yeah exactly.
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He's selling it from, he probably has it in his
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apartment. I'm very doubtful. Well I believe that
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you can get it in New York and I believe that
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they can deliver it in New York and you're in
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D.C. I can't imagine it's any different. It's a
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real city. Well I'm in Richmond. Wait, wait, wait.
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Richmond's a real city too. Kalispell would probably be not, they don't have
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delivery systems and stuff like that, but. Well,
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they have delivery systems, but they're from
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dispensaries. That's what I'm trying to say.
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Right, right, right, right. That's not what I
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mean. I mean, talking about, I think there's
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a lot of gray market weed, stuff that sort of
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falls off a truck. In D.C. it is. There's a
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huge amount of gray market stuff. Like in D.C.
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you can go to a weed house and they would
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have just crispy tree. Let's do some comments
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here. Okay. Ray is taking me to account for my
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bedhead. I'm like, I don't have bedhead today.
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This is normal. You should see my bedhead. I
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look like McNulty. Jackson, would you do a PhD?
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Would you do a PhD, Robby? That's a,
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okay. So yes. Yes, I would. But I'm worried about
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the opportunity cost of it takes
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five years on average, can take longer.
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And during that time, I'm not doing this podcast
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and I'm not drawing cartoons or not as much as
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I should be. So I'm 63 years old. Do I now want
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to be 68 years old and with a PhD, which is cool,
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it would be fun to have, besides which I would
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also need a master's. So seven years, I'd be
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70 years old. I think that'd be great. If I had
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the money and the time to do that I would totally.
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I love college. I love studying. But also a PhD
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isn't really college where you get to hang out
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at seminars and shoot the and solve the world's
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problems. A PhD is a lot of individual research
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which is pretty lonely. So I guess I'm sorry to
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weasel. I'm like maybe. How about you guys? No.
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It's nice to be a doctor but the work that
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you put into it properly. No there's other things
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I would prefer. I prefer to be a chess master.
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I would prefer to go back to a master's in
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history. I've never been to college. I don't see
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the point. I do see the point. It's
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well if
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seriously let's just say you're rich and you
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have nothing better and you can do anything you
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want. College is a lot of fun especially when
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you're young. It's like you're
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meeting, you're hanging out with other people
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and studying and the world feels open and you
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have possibilities and you have access to
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research institutions. It can be a lot of fun.
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I think it's maybe not as fun if you're at a
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community college or something. Ted, I've heard
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your stories about studying. I'm a married man,
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so I don't think I could study the same way that
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you did with your extracurricular activities.
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You probably wouldn't be married when you're
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going to college. Most people aren't. I was a
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good student. I graduated with honors. Yeah,
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you're going to get a three-year degree on threesomes.
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Lay Pipe 401. Not just threesomes. Her Majesty
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Lindsey Graham says, sup, heifers. And Jackson,
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did you dye your hair since yesterday? Ted, you
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look different. Yeah, it's weird. I look grayer.
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Yeah, I think it's just the light is different.
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Okay. And no, I don't dye my hair. I've never
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dyed my hair ever in my life. I can't say I never
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would, but actually, I like the way my hair looks
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right now. Is it the laptop versus the iPad?
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Oh, that's probably what it is. That might be
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it. Different camera. Because I have an external
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camera on my home computer. Thank you, Ray, for
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gifting a subscription to DeProgram. We do need
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those subscriptions. Moth36, the dog can now
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be an FBI agent. So true. So true. Pura Vida.
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Guys, I highly recommend you pay subscribe. Ted
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sends pics of him in his briefs on request. Uh-huh.
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You don't need to wait for him to get up
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and let the cat inside the room. Okay. Liza Lan.
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Do you know how big Canada is? You Americans
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are stupid. Yeah, I know. Canada is huge. But
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I think the point that we're making is most of
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it is empty. It's like if you're in Iceland.
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Iceland is mostly empty. It's huge landmass.
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You don't need to control the Canadian wildfire
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zones. Yeah, you don't need the polar bears.
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Polar bears can do what they do. They've got
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that under control. Yeah, just get the part that's
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important. So in Montana, you take three cities,
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you have the entire state. Yeah, you don't need
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all of it. Honestly, New York, if you
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wanted to control New York State, all you need
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is the city. And maybe you could use Buffalo.
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You don't even need Albany. Yeah, yeah. So, yes,
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we know Canada is huge. We're just talking about
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the population center. And, yes, Americans are
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incredibly stupid. F you so. I took community
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college classes for 12 years and got 15. What?
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15 associate's degrees and three certificates.
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It's cheap and no stress when old and doesn't
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matter. So I ended up going to. 15 is a little
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crazy. I went to Longwood first. I was sick most
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of the time I was in Longwood. I ended up coming
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out. I ended up going back to J. Sargeant Reynolds,
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ECPI. I got two certificates from both of them.
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Well, that's not true. One was a certificate.
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One was an associate's degree. Then I went to
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get the bachelor's from New York Institute of
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Technology and have a herbal bachelor's degree
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that I never used. We had a thing in
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Richmond where if you went to community college,
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you could skip the first two years of your regular
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college, if that makes sense. But it doesn't
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work great. Yeah. There's stuff that you need.
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So you graduated with a bachelor's? Yeah, I graduated
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with a bachelor's from New York Institute of
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Technology, J. Sargeant Reynolds. I got my associate's
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in. And I got my software degree from ECPI. ECPI
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was like a college event which became
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kind of like a community technical college here in
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Richmond but I got associates from, I got a degree
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from that which is what I used to go into software
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and which start doing the software development
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stuff. Yeah now you wouldn't even need a degree
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right? Not really. They
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care more about your skill and capability. In fact
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they have classes. Yeah and testing. I
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think technical tests anyway. When
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you go into software usually there's a panel
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of people who you're talking to and they're
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evaluating you and sometimes they have you doing
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stuff on boards and coming up with software logic
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and all this other stuff. Yeah technical interviews
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can be intense. So, OK, well, let's I think we
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should keep. Oh, let's see. Did I hit all the
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comments here? Oh, I got to say, if I had to
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do if I really wanted to do things my way, I'd
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honestly get a history master's PhD combo. And
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it would probably I know it's stupid, but it
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would probably help me sell my books better.
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What's not stupid? Knowledge for the sake of
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knowledge is not a negative thing. Yeah, no,
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it's just the accreditation thing. Look,
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I like dusty archives. I like handling
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documents that the President of the United States
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handled. It's just cool. And I
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think and obviously you learn a lot, but I'm just saying
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it's stupid that someone would buy
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your book because it says Ted Rall, Ph.D. on
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it. My mom used to say that I should have used
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my formal name, my legal name for my books because
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I would be taken more seriously. And she was
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kind of ridiculous. But I kind of see her point
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like Frederick T. Rall the Third.
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It just sounds very serious. Yeah
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it sounds very serious and pretentious
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which is something I do hate. All right so
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that's it for the comments for now. Should
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we talk about ICE? Yeah we should talk about ICE.
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Okay or we can move on to I want to talk I'm
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really dying to talk about Mary Peltola. Shall
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we talk about her? Yeah. Okay so Mary Peltola is
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an Alaska Native running. She's the Democratic
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nominee for Senate. Democrats were very, very excited
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about her. And basically
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she
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was kind of favored to win probably in what would
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likely be a blue wave election this November.
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And she still might. The New York Times just
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published this piece that basically says she's
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an asshole. Basically, she pushed one of her
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aides, shoved him in the chest, almost knocked
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him over. She apparently has a raging temper.
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She likes to dress down people in front of others.
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All reportedly, allegedly, all the normal weasel
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words. My personal favorite, and you'll know
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why, is that she was taken to task for using
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the R-word, retard, as in, fuck that retard.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And she also used the
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F-word, where she was referring to someone as
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a faggot. Really. And I'm like, okay, so definitely
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shades of Amy Klobuchar. So she has two principal
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lines of defense here. Well three. One is
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I knew her and I worked for her and she was great
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and I didn't see anything like that from some
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people. Okay that's not much of a defense. Okay
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then because it's like so what maybe she was
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nice to you. Okay then the
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next line of defense is this is sexism,
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double standard, dudes act like this all the time
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and so what's with this. This is just like
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what y'all did to Amy Klobuchar. That was also
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her principal line of defense. And then
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there's also people who are just
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like I don't care I'm going to vote for a Democrat
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against any Republican no matter what. Team
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Team Blue no matter what. And that's not really
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defense that's an annulment. Yeah that's just
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yeah that's right. And so wait, what was
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the other thing that she said? Oh, yeah. She
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said that in 2023, she suffered two big deaths
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in her family. Her mother died and her, look,
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I feel that. My mom died six years ago and I'm
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still not over it. So I totally feel that. And
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also her husband died in a plane crash so she
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was raising as a widow raising her kids
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and she says I was look I was short-tempered.
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I was strung out and grieving and so
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I took it out on myself. I may have
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taken it out on my staff, right? So these lines
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of defense are somewhat in conflict with each
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other, right? Because I didn't do it but if
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I did it this is because of
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my grieving. The one that interests me is the
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sexism one. I don't know. Because it's like.
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I even wrote it down. You said it. I even wrote
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it down. Go ahead. No, no, no. So the reason
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it interests me is, first of all. I don't know
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that I buy the assumption that men behave like
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this all the time and don't get called to task
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for it. I think that's something that mean women
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like Hillary Clinton say. And I've
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worked for a lot of male bosses, mostly male
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bosses and some female bosses, and they ran the
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gamut. I've had like by some counts,
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like over 40 jobs. And I've had lots of freelance
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clients, hundreds of them. So
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I've had lots of supervisors, editors, and so on.
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And I gotta say that men tend, on average,
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at least in my experience, to be better bosses
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than women. And they tend to be calmer and they
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tend not to go to these very bad places
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like belittling and name calling as quickly as
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women. Now, I guess what I really want
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to say is if a dude was running for Senate and
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these same allegations came out about him, I
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suspect they would be as notable and they would
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be as noticed as the fact that it's in this case,
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it's from a woman. I think it's the fact it's
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not the fact that she's a mean girl. It's the
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fact that she's a mean person. And I think the
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question for voters is, do they or should they
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care? And that's really the question we should
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be asking. I'm not even sure it's
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worthy of bringing. I'm not sure in a world
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where The New York Times every day skips entire
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countries to cover that this is really worth
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the space. Her person, the way
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she deals with personnel. In a way, I have to
00:26:41.490 --> 00:26:43.650
admit, I don't really care. I would care how
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she votes. I would care about the policy she
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promulgates. I would have voted
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for Ted Kennedy. I wouldn't have let my daughter
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ride in a car with him, but I would have voted
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for him because of his policy priorities.
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Bernie Sanders is apparently very loyal
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to his wife. I don't really care. It doesn't
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affect me one way or the other. But they don't
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write articles like this about men. I
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remember when men aren't really like this as
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much as women are. Well, one, I don't know that
00:27:18.259 --> 00:27:23.339
many they don't. Obviously, they're going
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to be people in the political space that act
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this way. And I would even like Rahm Emanuel.
00:27:32.700 --> 00:27:33.000
He's like that. Right. Rahm Emanuel
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:34.900
is an asshole, but they don't write articles
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about this in a negative context about him
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:40.319
being this way. And I gotta be honest with you
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:42.599
I would wager to you that many political people
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:46.480
are this way just from the pressure of getting
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:50.279
into the positions that they're in. They all yell
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:53.180
and curse and carry on and bark at their subordinates
00:27:53.180 --> 00:27:56.279
by definition to get to where they are. Now it
00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:58.539
doesn't mean that all of them this way but I
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can imagine that getting to this particular position
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:05.279
you have a certain personality type of getting
00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:06.740
to this position. It's like they always say,
00:28:06.740 --> 00:28:09.799
CEOs and politicians are sociopaths, and that
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:12.779
you on some level need to be that way. And this
00:28:12.779 --> 00:28:15.099
kind of type of personality need to get to the
00:28:15.099 --> 00:28:18.940
position. People like Sanders, who don't want
00:28:18.940 --> 00:28:24.039
to hit their opponent, don't typically get to
00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:29.240
that position because they don't necessarily
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:32.740
want to be who they need to be in order to get
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there. And I guess my point is, they would write
00:28:33.040 --> 00:28:35.839
this about Klobuchar and Kamala Harris and this
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:39.599
woman, but at a really key time, by the way,
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:44.039
right? Just literally in the clutch,
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:47.140
just six weeks before the election.
00:28:47.140 --> 00:28:50.339
How many men do they write stories like this
00:28:50.339 --> 00:28:50.639
about? The way Cuomo acted,
00:28:50.639 --> 00:28:54.420
this was only towards the end of his career where
00:28:54.420 --> 00:28:56.980
they went after Cuomo. But Cuomo acted like this
00:28:56.980 --> 00:29:00.779
all the way through. Rahm Emanuel acted like
00:29:00.779 --> 00:29:03.000
this all the way through. Cuomo's stuff was more
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:05.579
serious. He was an ass grabber. Well, that too.
00:29:05.579 --> 00:29:08.660
I guess I'm saying maybe they do have a point.
00:29:08.660 --> 00:29:12.240
That the mean girl thing is a mean girl thing.
00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:15.500
Meaning they didn't make a movie Mean
00:29:15.500 --> 00:29:15.800
Boys. Mean Girls, right? Yeah. Even though men
00:29:15.800 --> 00:29:19.099
do come in groups and act like basically I guess
00:29:19.099 --> 00:29:22.700
you would call that a gang. But I don't know.
00:29:22.700 --> 00:29:25.980
I don't think this behavior is, and see
00:29:25.980 --> 00:29:29.859
I'm in a bubble in this. I don't know. You
00:29:29.859 --> 00:29:32.140
may be right that it may be this thing of
00:29:32.140 --> 00:29:34.559
well, women need to overcompensate. And in overcompensating,
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:37.859
they have this idea in their heads about how
00:29:37.859 --> 00:29:40.319
men behave. And they are trying to behave in
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:43.839
a similar way as they think. Yeah, this is what
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:46.500
leadership looks like. Because leadership has
00:29:46.500 --> 00:29:46.800
always been male and aggressive. And I have to
00:29:46.800 --> 00:29:49.440
be aggressive. And I've got to dress like a man
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:53.059
and cut my hair real short. And be an asshole.
00:29:53.059 --> 00:29:55.420
And be strong. Militaristic. Yeah. The reality
00:29:55.420 --> 00:29:55.720
of it is, okay, well, men don't entirely act
00:29:55.720 --> 00:30:02.079
this way as bosses all the time. I've
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:02.379
only had maybe one that was that way. And even
00:30:02.379 --> 00:30:04.740
he wasn't that way all the time. Right? Like,
00:30:04.740 --> 00:30:08.269
he just acted that way when things went awry.
00:30:08.269 --> 00:30:11.609
I've had women bosses that were horrendous. And
00:30:11.609 --> 00:30:15.329
it wasn't because they were women. It was because
00:30:15.329 --> 00:30:19.049
they were just horrible people. Yeah. Everybody
00:30:19.049 --> 00:30:22.490
recognized them as just being horrible people
00:30:22.490 --> 00:30:26.750
in this particular context. A woman I used to
00:30:26.750 --> 00:30:29.250
work for as a barista, she was a lunatic. And
00:30:29.250 --> 00:30:32.710
just very difficult to be around in general.
00:30:32.710 --> 00:30:33.010
But that wasn't the norm. I had another woman
00:30:33.010 --> 00:30:35.900
boss that was chill, cool, and just a really
00:30:35.900 --> 00:30:38.440
good boss. Oh, sure. I've had great female bosses,
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:41.180
for sure. I don't know. It's very possible
00:30:41.180 --> 00:30:44.000
that this is... I'm divided. It could be... this
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:46.539
is what women think men are in which case they're
00:30:46.539 --> 00:30:49.599
trying to emulate men when they're getting leadership
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:52.500
positions and they may be insecurity on some
00:30:52.500 --> 00:30:55.980
level in which case they need to behave this
00:30:55.980 --> 00:30:58.539
way. But the other way could be the media is
00:30:58.539 --> 00:31:01.599
playing up this mean girl thing because the mean
00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:01.899
girl is a meme of sorts and so when they find
00:31:01.899 --> 00:31:04.660
a mean girl they like hey she's mean to her
00:31:04.660 --> 00:31:06.420
staff she's pushing this guy she's hitting this
00:31:06.420 --> 00:31:09.299
guy etc. The other part to this is... Well,
00:31:09.299 --> 00:31:12.519
if true, that is a serious matter. That is assault.
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.440
It's every bit as serious as
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:17.960
what Cuomo was accused of. Although with Cuomo,
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:21.480
it was a serial matter. And it was sexual harassment
00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:24.019
too, yeah. The other part to this is, that I
00:31:24.019 --> 00:31:26.440
think is interesting, is A, this is coming just
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:32.960
before the election. Also, I'm worried. Is using
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:35.700
the R-word disqualifying? Oh, well, so much for
00:31:35.700 --> 00:31:37.700
my political career. And that's the part, right?
00:31:37.700 --> 00:31:42.339
It's a Democrat. Which, if you're a Republican,
00:31:42.339 --> 00:31:45.460
it doesn't really matter. If you're independent,
00:31:45.460 --> 00:31:47.299
it doesn't really matter. I don't think it does.
00:31:47.299 --> 00:31:50.039
As a Democrat, oh, this is orthodoxy. By the
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:50.339
way, part of me liked when they quoted her.
00:31:50.339 --> 00:31:53.380
And it was like where she was pissed
00:31:53.380 --> 00:31:54.960
because some guy sent, some fundraiser sent out
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:57.950
a photo, a selfie of him and her together and
00:31:57.950 --> 00:32:00.009
he wasn't supposed to and she texted
00:32:00.009 --> 00:32:02.089
her staff that retard. I'm like I like this lady's
00:32:02.089 --> 00:32:04.849
style. I literally was like I would feel
00:32:04.849 --> 00:32:07.150
the same way that I love a woman that would drop
00:32:07.150 --> 00:32:11.410
an F-bomb. I think it's very, yeah me too, depending
00:32:11.410 --> 00:32:14.849
on how to do it. I don't want it to be
00:32:14.849 --> 00:32:16.910
if it's I had an interview with a guest the other
00:32:16.910 --> 00:32:19.809
day. I like the fact that she didn't feel the
00:32:19.809 --> 00:32:23.619
need to be woke or that she could talk like a
00:32:23.619 --> 00:32:25.480
real person behind closed doors. And it kind
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:25.780
of sucks to think that we live in this world
00:32:25.780 --> 00:32:28.940
where every time you text out a brain fart, it's
00:32:28.940 --> 00:32:31.119
going to end up in the fucking New York Times.
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:32.839
It's not a brain fart. She was pissed off. She
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:35.180
meant it. Well, I have a question for y'all.
00:32:35.180 --> 00:32:38.279
And I think I probably have a different take
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:40.220
than y'all. I think we're going to see more
00:32:40.220 --> 00:32:42.180
of this with women bosses. Because women are
00:32:42.180 --> 00:32:45.460
outperforming men in the workplace. So you're
00:32:45.460 --> 00:32:49.819
going to have more women bosses. You're going
00:32:49.819 --> 00:32:55.019
to have more women executives. More women senators.
00:32:55.019 --> 00:32:55.319
And women like to put knives in other women.
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:58.019
Listen, I worked in healthcare. It's
00:32:58.019 --> 00:32:58.319
a very woman-dominated industry. It just is.
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:01.019
And you are swimming in a sea of estrogen. That's
00:33:01.019 --> 00:33:03.099
one of the reasons I wanted to work from home
00:33:03.099 --> 00:33:06.500
is because... I'm not going to pretend like I
00:33:06.500 --> 00:33:08.799
don't know what you're talking about. It's bad
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:10.599
enough to be a woman in that environment. Me
00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:12.519
as the only dude, the only guy with external
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:14.400
plumbing. You were like Clint Eastwood in The
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:17.500
Beguiled. It was bad. And the thing is, for example,
00:33:17.500 --> 00:33:18.160
there was this one lady who I had to train. And
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:20.480
I used the word train loosely because, frankly,
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:20.890
she was stupid. To borrow a Tedism, she was retarded.
00:33:20.890 --> 00:33:24.230
And so my job was medical records, which involved
00:33:24.230 --> 00:33:27.710
reading and reading comprehension and be able
00:33:27.710 --> 00:33:32.750
to actually understand the document that's
00:33:32.750 --> 00:33:36.210
in front of you. I spent six months training
00:33:36.210 --> 00:33:39.250
this lady. When she finally got done training,
00:33:39.250 --> 00:33:43.569
she called me over to talk to her about an ecology note.
00:33:43.569 --> 00:33:46.410
The first I asked her, so did you read it? She
00:33:46.410 --> 00:33:48.690
said, no. I said, read it, do your job.
00:33:48.690 --> 00:33:49.339
If you need help, come back to me again. She
00:33:49.339 --> 00:33:52.599
went to HR. I got to have six weeks of sensitivity
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:52.899
training because I was too rough on her. I hurt
00:33:52.899 --> 00:33:54.759
her feelings because I told her to read a document
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:56.839
and do her job. That was sexist on my part. So
00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:58.579
women who are squealing about this. Come on.
00:33:58.579 --> 00:34:00.500
Who watches this show who would not say that
00:34:00.500 --> 00:34:03.099
you deserve more sensitivity training? Well,
00:34:03.099 --> 00:34:06.019
it's probably why I'm so insensitive. It's because
00:34:06.019 --> 00:34:09.239
I've had enough of all this crap. But seriously,
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:09.579
Ted, if I don't do the job that you don't pay
00:34:09.579 --> 00:34:15.110
me for, I get called to the carpet for it, for
00:34:15.110 --> 00:34:17.369
not doing the job that I'm not supposed to do.
00:34:17.369 --> 00:34:20.070
And I say, hey, retard. Correct. But
00:34:20.070 --> 00:34:25.630
that's the point. Although you would deserve
00:34:25.630 --> 00:34:28.309
it, but I wouldn't do that, no. Well, of course.
00:34:28.309 --> 00:34:28.609
In which case, I would tell you then to find
00:34:28.609 --> 00:34:30.650
yourself a lower paid producer to replace me
00:34:30.650 --> 00:34:32.429
with. Oh, wait, you can't. I'd have to pay you
00:34:32.429 --> 00:34:37.849
to do the job at that point. But I guess the
00:34:37.849 --> 00:34:40.690
point I'm trying to make is that as women
00:34:40.690 --> 00:34:44.619
climb more and more and more in the
00:34:44.619 --> 00:34:46.519
workplace just to see more and more and more
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:48.559
of the stuff coming on and women are very toxic
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:53.579
to each other. It's just a fact of life. Sorry
00:34:53.579 --> 00:34:56.380
ladies if it hurt your feelings. It's the truth. I
00:34:56.380 --> 00:34:56.800
worked in all-male workplaces and I've worked
00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:59.739
in all-female workplaces and
00:34:59.739 --> 00:35:01.980
oh boy. All male is not good. It's
00:35:01.980 --> 00:35:04.360
like you need that. You need the
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:06.199
sexual variety. You need people who
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:10.239
are more civilized to be present. Men aren't
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:12.320
civilized. Men are savage. But an all-female
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:13.960
workplace is so toxic and it's dangerous. You
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:16.559
just don't want to be around. Is it dangerous?
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:18.679
Yeah, you will be. Yeah, only bad things
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:22.119
will happen. All right. But anyway, so let's
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:24.000
get back to Mary Peltola. Yeah, I mean, is it
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:27.300
newsworthy? Her family members have passed. Because
00:35:27.300 --> 00:35:31.480
I think it is. Let's assume it's true. Well,
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:34.139
it is true that they had passed. We don't know
00:35:34.139 --> 00:35:37.039
if it's relevant. Yeah. Look, but that
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:39.920
brings up another question, right? Grace
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:40.220
under pressure. Look, in
00:35:40.220 --> 00:35:42.820
2020, during the pandemic, my mom, right before
00:35:42.820 --> 00:35:46.260
the pandemic, my mom died two weeks before the
00:35:46.260 --> 00:35:48.900
lockdown. I didn't spend the next year or two
00:35:48.900 --> 00:35:52.760
screaming at people and calling
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:58.019
them names and shoving them. So the point is, this is a presumably being a United
00:35:58.019 --> 00:36:01.230
States senator, even albeit from Alaska would
00:36:01.230 --> 00:36:04.869
involve some pressure, some high-pressure
00:36:04.869 --> 00:36:06.869
situations. You'd want to think that
00:36:06.869 --> 00:36:07.169
she'd be able to be calm and address
00:36:07.169 --> 00:36:10.150
those. I don't know. Maybe. People handle
00:36:10.150 --> 00:36:10.450
stuff differently. I know when I got sick
00:36:10.450 --> 00:36:12.170
when I, well ironically just before the pandemic
00:36:12.170 --> 00:36:14.269
and really didn't even have anything to do with
00:36:14.269 --> 00:36:14.569
the pandemic, when I had the stroke when I
00:36:14.569 --> 00:36:17.789
was at the job I mean, in fact, a lot of stuff
00:36:17.789 --> 00:36:20.840
went wrong that year in 2020. It was like a stroke.
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.000
It was MERS. What's this thing called? Oh, what
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:26.000
is the thing called? I can't think of the name
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:28.440
of it. Mindy didn't let me come into work. Mindy
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:31.079
was like, dude, go home. And I was trying to
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:34.780
do the job. At one point, he was like, dude,
00:36:34.780 --> 00:36:37.940
go home, go home. Yeah, this could
00:36:37.940 --> 00:36:40.840
be contagious. But a lot of stuff was going wrong
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:43.300
that year. And I wasn't popping off. I was distant.
00:36:43.300 --> 00:36:45.079
Yeah. You're right. People respond differently.
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:48.159
Yeah. I want to be left to my own devices. I'm
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:49.320
like you that way. Yeah. And when you're stuck
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:51.940
with a wife. I don't want to talk about my problems
00:36:51.940 --> 00:36:54.300
because I already have my problem. And if I talk
00:36:54.300 --> 00:36:56.159
about my problem, it's like I'm reliving my problem.
00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:59.880
I'm experiencing it again twice. Well, it's indulging.
00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:01.460
I would consider it's indulging. It's like it's
00:37:01.460 --> 00:37:02.059
it also doesn't do any good. It's almost
00:37:02.059 --> 00:37:04.900
never that someone says hey Ted have you ever
00:37:04.900 --> 00:37:07.460
thought of and I'm like oh no I didn't know that.
00:37:07.460 --> 00:37:07.780
And see I think this is the difference
00:37:07.780 --> 00:37:09.840
between men and women if we're being honest.
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:12.380
Women would more so indulge. Yeah women always
00:37:12.380 --> 00:37:15.090
say oh you feel so good after you talk about
00:37:15.090 --> 00:37:16.989
something. I'm like I don't. Yeah I don't see the
00:37:16.989 --> 00:37:18.789
point. Unless someone has a practical
00:37:18.789 --> 00:37:22.530
solution. Like if someone says like when I was dealing with the L.A. Times,
00:37:22.530 --> 00:37:23.010
if someone said, oh, I know a good lawyer who
00:37:23.010 --> 00:37:24.809
would be interested in your case. I already talked
00:37:24.809 --> 00:37:25.289
to him. He wants your case. OK, that's really
00:37:25.289 --> 00:37:26.769
useful. Thank you so much. That's helping. Men
00:37:26.769 --> 00:37:31.250
get this wrong. I really think men get this wrong,
00:37:31.250 --> 00:37:31.670
though, like on some level. I think that's why
00:37:31.670 --> 00:37:34.010
men eat their guns. The housewives. One of the
00:37:34.010 --> 00:37:35.269
things that blew my mind about housewives is
00:37:35.269 --> 00:37:40.409
the way they talk about stuff that I would consider
00:37:40.409 --> 00:37:43.380
to be too weak to talk about. And they would
00:37:43.380 --> 00:37:46.019
just openly have these conversations. And I'm
00:37:46.019 --> 00:37:48.320
like, whoa, people talk about that. And I realized,
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:52.800
oh, right, it's the housewives that are doing
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:56.559
this. These aren't like the housemen or the house
00:37:56.559 --> 00:37:56.859
husbands that are doing this. Husbands don't
00:37:56.859 --> 00:38:01.920
really get into it. They may a little bit, but
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:04.260
they're usually talking about external stuff.
00:38:04.260 --> 00:38:04.560
The women are talking about internal stuff that
00:38:04.560 --> 00:38:07.800
is effectively bugging them. And you think to
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:08.400
yourself, is this what you gotta spend your time
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:12.280
on even in the show the men are like oh god they're
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:12.699
at it again. They're able on some level to maintain
00:38:12.699 --> 00:38:14.559
their friendships and relationships because they're
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:16.980
willing to kind of air this stuff. I don't know
00:38:16.980 --> 00:38:20.019
maybe there is a value in just airing stuff. Oh
00:38:20.019 --> 00:38:23.539
clearly there is. It makes a lot of
00:38:23.539 --> 00:38:23.839
people feel better. Yeah but sometimes
00:38:23.839 --> 00:38:25.800
group, I did when I was,
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:26.100
I supported
00:38:26.100 --> 00:38:28.820
my mom. I was a caregiver for my mom. She had
00:38:28.820 --> 00:38:29.639
Alzheimer's. It was hard. I'm an only child.
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:32.199
And I went to a support group. And that was useful,
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:36.019
just basically. My main takeaway, though, was,
00:38:36.019 --> 00:38:36.319
man, my situation sucks, but it could suck worse
00:38:36.319 --> 00:38:39.639
when I heard these other stories. It always can
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:42.500
be worse. Yeah. I stopped feeling sorry for myself.
00:38:42.500 --> 00:38:44.380
I guess the main point is, well, that
00:38:44.380 --> 00:38:47.360
doesn't. That wouldn't stop me from necessarily
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:50.579
feeling, well, I guess I can see why it would.
00:38:50.579 --> 00:38:52.820
But it's still the situation, still the situation,
00:38:52.820 --> 00:38:53.120
even though other people's may be worse. It's
00:38:53.120 --> 00:38:56.400
still my own situation in that case. I don't
00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:59.500
know. I give her a little bit of grace
00:38:59.500 --> 00:38:59.800
if it's true, but that's assuming it's true.
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:01.800
Like, I don't doubt that the people died and
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:04.300
I don't doubt that it was hard on her. Whether
00:39:04.300 --> 00:39:04.600
that was why she was an asshole to her people,
00:39:04.600 --> 00:39:07.679
she might have just been an asshole to her people.
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:11.889
It just so happened this other stuff might have
00:39:11.889 --> 00:39:13.469
just been going on. I don't know. Yeah, it sounds
00:39:13.469 --> 00:39:13.769
like she's kind of excessively spicy, right?
00:39:13.769 --> 00:39:17.309
Just in general. I
00:39:17.309 --> 00:39:17.609
think that's probably what's going on here. She
00:39:17.609 --> 00:39:18.710
should probably take up hunting and go shoot
00:39:18.710 --> 00:39:21.130
some animals. That's where... Right. Don't take
00:39:21.130 --> 00:39:21.430
it out on your staff. Yeah, yeah. Go shoot something
00:39:21.430 --> 00:39:22.769
that can bite. Then that'll keep you
00:39:22.769 --> 00:39:24.750
busy. Sinema was also rough to her
00:39:24.750 --> 00:39:27.469
staff or something like that. Yeah.
00:39:27.469 --> 00:39:30.349
They seem to do this for women they don't seem
00:39:30.349 --> 00:39:33.199
to do this for men. I haven't read articles oh
00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:36.179
this guy is very and I guess that's true
00:39:36.179 --> 00:39:38.760
and I guess yeah I guess the question
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:41.320
is yeah. Bill Clinton was an... Yeah
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:43.519
nobody knows. When I, so I had a friend
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:46.599
he worked in the West Wing of the White House.
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:51.679
He's a former cartoonist. And he ended up becoming
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:56.559
a speechwriter for Bill Clinton. And at that
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:56.859
time, my cartoons appeared regularly in The Washington
00:39:56.859 --> 00:40:00.579
Post. And I did a cartoon that the president
00:40:00.579 --> 00:40:03.699
didn't care for. And Bill Clinton walked into
00:40:03.699 --> 00:40:06.119
my friend's office and threw the paper on the
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.340
desk. And he said, you tell your friend to go
00:40:08.340 --> 00:40:12.260
fuck himself. What? So he calls me up and he
00:40:12.260 --> 00:40:16.960
goes, and he's like, the president of the United
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:21.860
States is pissed at you. Oh shit. Like, that's
00:40:21.860 --> 00:40:25.139
not good. This man can kill me legally. Right?
00:40:25.139 --> 00:40:25.960
Like, it's not good. So I was proud and terrified
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:29.800
at the same time. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, but
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:33.900
anyway, obviously here I am, everything's fine.
00:40:33.900 --> 00:40:40.500
But by all accounts, he's, I mean,
00:40:40.500 --> 00:40:43.380
they're all like that, right? They all
00:40:43.380 --> 00:40:46.440
have spicy tempers. And there are exceptions
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:46.740
like George W. Bush apparently was like a serious
00:40:46.740 --> 00:40:48.579
pleasure to work for. Everybody loved to work
00:40:48.579 --> 00:40:53.730
for him. He was a sweetheart. Donald Trump, a
00:40:53.730 --> 00:40:56.150
lot of people who were close to him for years
00:40:56.150 --> 00:41:00.809
in the Trump organization, like his personal
00:41:00.809 --> 00:41:03.449
assistant, adored him and said that he was always
00:41:03.449 --> 00:41:06.050
very kind and considerate to them. It's like,
00:41:06.050 --> 00:41:08.929
sometimes it's unexpected. I don't
00:41:08.929 --> 00:41:12.570
know. I guess the question is, should
00:41:12.570 --> 00:41:15.369
we care as voters? In other words, should
00:41:15.369 --> 00:41:18.650
reporters care? I care if she's competent, if
00:41:18.650 --> 00:41:22.159
she's competent at her job. Yeah, that's what
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:24.280
matters. And most people who are competent want
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:27.179
stuff done a certain way. If you have someone
00:41:27.179 --> 00:41:30.960
that's a complete screw up, like someone asked
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:34.539
me in the chat, Andre said, Robby, was your
00:41:34.539 --> 00:41:36.619
female boss an immigrant? No, she was just stupid.
00:41:36.619 --> 00:41:40.659
Yeah, like Mary Peltola was told at one point,
00:41:40.659 --> 00:41:42.880
she was angry when she was running for Congress
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:46.960
because there weren't enough signs, or maybe
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:49.039
in her current campaign, there weren't enough
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:51.179
big yard signs in southeastern Alaska. And she,
00:41:51.179 --> 00:41:51.479
according to the Times article, sent out a message
00:41:51.479 --> 00:41:55.940
to her staff and basically said, in the southeast,
00:41:55.940 --> 00:41:57.320
our yard sign game sucks. I'm like, so what?
00:41:57.320 --> 00:41:59.320
She said that. Who cares? She's good for her. She's
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.420
noticing things. She's on top of things. Yeah she's
00:42:02.420 --> 00:42:06.159
just managing her team. Yeah what should
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:08.659
she say in that situation? And by the way Hitler's
00:42:08.659 --> 00:42:12.039
secretary thought Hitler was great. Boring though.
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:17.099
I don't know if you're a god man I can't remember
00:42:17.099 --> 00:42:18.960
the name of the movie but at the end of the movie
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.440
she's talking about Hitler like oh he's
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:21.800
such a great guy and everything else and realizing
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:23.739
what she was saying after the fact like oh my
00:42:23.739 --> 00:42:27.139
god all these people are killed and everything
00:42:27.139 --> 00:42:30.800
else. The person relationship is one thing how
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:33.840
the person is something else. Yeah so I don't
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:36.199
know. Some of this stuff just sounds like
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:36.499
she's just being a manager. Some of this other
00:42:36.499 --> 00:42:39.760
stuff might sound she's been excessive. But again
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:40.060
I don't know if they would write the story about
00:42:40.060 --> 00:42:42.280
a guy. Massive has a comment. You guys need bus
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:43.019
drivers and truck drivers. I want out of this
00:42:43.019 --> 00:42:45.320
hellhole and I'll gladly get Canadian residency
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.840
or citizenship if I can. You can go to a Canadian
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:50.380
government website, just Google it, and you can
00:42:50.380 --> 00:42:53.579
find out if you qualify for Canadian permanent
00:42:53.579 --> 00:42:56.920
residency. It's a point system. And so it has
00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:01.619
to do with how much money you have, how many
00:43:01.619 --> 00:43:03.619
degrees you have, how many certificates you have,
00:43:03.619 --> 00:43:07.420
how many languages you speak. It definitely helps
00:43:07.420 --> 00:43:11.059
to speak French also. But there's
00:43:11.059 --> 00:43:14.099
it's actually pretty easy. It's much easier
00:43:14.099 --> 00:43:14.399
and far more direct than our immigration system
00:43:14.399 --> 00:43:15.739
which we talk about here all the time. So
00:43:15.739 --> 00:43:16.039
Phrasmatas,
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:19.420
what was the topic about the bodyguard trashing
00:43:19.420 --> 00:43:21.280
the lady's artwork? Who is the principal client
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:24.659
protectee? Kyrsten Sinema. Kyrsten Sinema.
00:43:24.659 --> 00:43:28.099
Yeah, her bodyguard was tossing her artwork into the
00:43:28.099 --> 00:43:31.519
pool. Okay, so, Phrasmatas, question for Ted
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:31.819
and Jamarl in the chat. There's a new Kenneth
00:43:31.819 --> 00:43:34.440
Branagh movie, that's always of interest to me,
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:39.320
set in the Soviet Union called Mayday. It was
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:42.050
a fun action movie. It takes place in 1988-ish.
00:43:42.050 --> 00:43:43.829
I would watch. I would check that out. And what's
00:43:43.829 --> 00:43:46.190
the name of Ken Branagh? Branagh. He's very acclaimed.
00:43:46.190 --> 00:43:48.829
P.W. Walker, men police other men. Women defend
00:43:48.829 --> 00:43:52.690
and justify bad behavior by other women unless
00:43:52.690 --> 00:43:52.990
they're better looking than them. Then the knives
00:43:52.990 --> 00:43:55.389
come out. I'm not touching that one. No, I'm
00:43:55.389 --> 00:43:57.809
not touching that either. We do have to talk
00:43:57.809 --> 00:44:00.289
about ICE in the time we have left. Evanston,
00:44:00.289 --> 00:44:02.710
Illinois, that's best known for where Northwestern
00:44:02.710 --> 00:44:04.389
University is, Northwestern University. That's
00:44:04.389 --> 00:44:06.610
just south of Chicago. Anyway, ICE was looking
00:44:06.610 --> 00:44:07.909
for a dude outside. You can't make this up outside
00:44:07.909 --> 00:44:09.960
a Mexican restaurant. They saw another dude who
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:13.199
looks like the guy that they're looking for.
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:17.119
They go up to him and they say.
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:19.300
Yo, we're taking
00:44:19.300 --> 00:44:20.960
you in. Let's see some ID. And the guy's like,
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:24.300
fuck you. I'm an American citizen. Suck my dick.
00:44:24.300 --> 00:44:26.659
Eat shit. And so they get furious and they beat
00:44:26.659 --> 00:44:30.039
the shit out of him. It attracts a crowd. They
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:34.019
beat him up. They break his teeth. This goes
00:44:34.019 --> 00:44:37.179
on for long enough that there's an angry crowd.
00:44:37.179 --> 00:44:39.280
According to ICE themselves, they were forced
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:44.280
to flee for fear of being attacked by the mob.
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:44.580
And Evanston PD is called. They show up, and
00:44:44.580 --> 00:44:47.320
you can tell from their press release that they
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:50.780
are pissed at ICE. The local yokels show up.
00:44:50.780 --> 00:44:52.579
They see this guy on the ground, unable to
00:44:52.579 --> 00:44:57.219
get up. He has to be sent to the hospital. And
00:44:57.219 --> 00:44:58.000
ICE claims, oh, well, we offered him medical
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:03.239
assistance, but he refused. Witnesses say nothing
00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:05.440
like that happened. And so this was
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:07.440
another case of a U.S. citizen being detained,
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:07.940
beaten. This is just getting
00:45:07.940 --> 00:45:10.079
crazier every single day. And while
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:10.420
we're talking about immigration, we should probably
00:45:10.420 --> 00:45:12.139
talk about the Trump looks like he's about to
00:45:12.139 --> 00:45:15.099
roll back the Argentine beef thing. But anyway,
00:45:15.099 --> 00:45:16.699
yeah. Well, how can he can't press charges? I
00:45:16.699 --> 00:45:18.920
remember when I had a conversation with Garland
00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:21.500
about this, it's like outrageous. Because my
00:45:21.500 --> 00:45:23.900
thing was, say for the moment that cops were
00:45:23.900 --> 00:45:26.059
there. And say for the moment ICE agents came
00:45:26.059 --> 00:45:27.920
up and the guy told them, hey, suck my dick.
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:28.220
I'm an American citizen. Show me somebody. I'm
00:45:28.220 --> 00:45:29.639
not showing you shit. I'm an American citizen.
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:31.300
I don't have to show you anything. And he's right,
00:45:31.300 --> 00:45:32.900
by the way. And he's right. Can the cops intervene
00:45:32.900 --> 00:45:35.619
to prevent him from being attacked or dragged
00:45:35.619 --> 00:45:35.919
away? And I remember Garland said they're probably
00:45:35.919 --> 00:45:38.320
not going to get involved. Garland used to be
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:40.639
a chief of a head cop of investigations and everything
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:42.480
else. That's outrageous. Meaning the fact that
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:45.400
the police department won't protect you as an
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:48.320
American citizen from these goons of the Trump
00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:50.500
administration. Because they would say, well,
00:45:50.500 --> 00:45:54.539
this is a federal issue. Yeah, but I'm an American
00:45:54.539 --> 00:45:56.639
citizen. Yeah, I'm sorry. You got to work that
00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:58.860
out. And you're a local citizen of the city of
00:45:58.860 --> 00:46:01.860
Evanston, Illinois. Yeah. Well, whether you're
00:46:01.860 --> 00:46:04.679
a local citizen or not, you're in their jurisdiction,
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:07.380
right? Yeah. It's amazing. It seems like their
00:46:07.380 --> 00:46:13.519
authority supersedes the law. I mean, we are
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:16.780
seeing some jurisdictional disputes of this kind
00:46:16.780 --> 00:46:17.710
around ICE increasingly, right? The Minnesota
00:46:17.710 --> 00:46:20.269
authorities have been working very hard to try
00:46:20.269 --> 00:46:20.569
to hold someone accountable for the killings
00:46:20.569 --> 00:46:22.610
of Alex Pretti and I forget the woman's name
00:46:22.610 --> 00:46:25.650
in Minnesota, who were both killed by ICE earlier
00:46:25.650 --> 00:46:28.010
this year. And they're starting to get somewhere.
00:46:28.010 --> 00:46:31.309
There's increasing examples of local authorities
00:46:31.309 --> 00:46:34.070
and local prosecutors now indicting ICE officers.
00:46:34.070 --> 00:46:38.130
In some cases, ICE sort of lets them be indicted.
00:46:38.130 --> 00:46:41.130
So there's some accountability, but it's really
00:46:41.130 --> 00:46:49.369
frustrating. Look, the thing is, what I can't
00:46:49.369 --> 00:46:51.349
get past is, again, these are unidentified random
00:46:51.349 --> 00:46:55.530
goons. The media shouldn't even say this was
00:46:55.530 --> 00:46:58.789
ICE. They should say purported ICE officers or
00:46:58.789 --> 00:46:59.089
self-identified or alleged or unidentified men
00:46:59.089 --> 00:47:05.110
claiming to be ICE officers. That should be the
00:47:05.110 --> 00:47:08.289
nomenclature in all of these stories, except
00:47:08.289 --> 00:47:08.589
when people are not wearing masks
00:47:08.589 --> 00:47:10.230
and they're presenting lawful IDs
00:47:10.230 --> 00:47:10.530
and displaying their badges. It reminds
00:47:10.530 --> 00:47:13.250
me of back when I used to go to protests in the
00:47:13.250 --> 00:47:13.659
80s and 90s in New York. You always the cops
00:47:13.659 --> 00:47:16.199
had these plastic elastics that they kept
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:19.820
by their shields. And if they were about to attack
00:47:19.820 --> 00:47:23.099
us and assault us they would cover up their
00:47:23.099 --> 00:47:26.000
badge. You'd see them take the plastic elastic
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:29.340
and cover up their shield numbers and you'd
00:47:29.340 --> 00:47:32.900
be like oh here we go and I'd be
00:47:32.900 --> 00:47:35.059
looking for the nearest subway. It's
00:47:35.059 --> 00:47:38.280
just like it just should
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:41.420
be in the constitution that any agent of the
00:47:41.420 --> 00:47:41.720
state whether you're an IRS auditor or a federal
00:47:41.720 --> 00:47:44.280
agent, FBI agent, you should have to present
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:46.260
ID. Like if you watch videos on YouTube, there's
00:47:46.260 --> 00:47:50.159
tons of examples of alleged FBI agents showing
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:53.420
up, refusing to present business cards, which
00:47:53.420 --> 00:47:56.139
anyone can print a business card, but refusing
00:47:56.139 --> 00:47:58.199
to show their shields and their ID. And they're
00:47:58.199 --> 00:47:59.820
like, well, we're from the FBI. How do I know
00:47:59.820 --> 00:48:02.219
that? Let me see your ID. Oh, we're not showing
00:48:02.219 --> 00:48:04.320
you that. Even the Gestapo presented
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:06.739
their ID. That should just be the law.
00:48:06.739 --> 00:48:07.230
Yeah. If you need to cover up your face
00:48:07.230 --> 00:48:11.050
as an agent of the state, you're doing something
00:48:11.050 --> 00:48:11.350
wrong. True. Just as a rule. Otherwise,
00:48:11.350 --> 00:48:13.829
why do you need to do it? Right. Right. I mean,
00:48:13.829 --> 00:48:16.269
they will. I'm sorry. I don't really think they're
00:48:16.269 --> 00:48:18.449
in danger. Yeah. Put it this
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way. If they're hiding their identity,
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riding up in unidentified trucks and snatching
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people. And then it's like, okay, but you're
00:48:24.570 --> 00:48:27.570
in more danger doing that. Right? Like anybody
00:48:27.570 --> 00:48:27.870
in that crowd could have pulled out a gun thinking
00:48:27.870 --> 00:48:32.190
that these people were - And that's going to
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happen. It's absolutely going to happen. Yeah.
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You're beating the living daylights out
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of somebody. Out of an innocent man. Yeah. An
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innocent man, no less. For fun, gratuitously.
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The day after they shot someone. And so it's
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like the crowd, not knowing what is taking place,
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:50.980
somebody could easily pull out a gun. In Ukraine,
00:48:50.980 --> 00:48:53.480
for example, when you have those press gangs,
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:54.980
one of the videos had a guy pulling out a gun
00:48:54.980 --> 00:48:56.380
because of the press gang in order to disperse
00:48:56.380 --> 00:48:59.079
them from grabbing somebody. Okay, that could
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happen in the U.S., especially if you don't
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know who the hell the people are. Yeah. I mean,
00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:06.300
it's just outrageous. You're hanging out at a
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Mexican restaurant? How cliche. I know. I know.
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It actually does. I love Mexican food, and it
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really does make me think twice. It makes me
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:15.880
also feel like, is going to a Mexican restaurant
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a political act now? I know. I know. The ICE
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thing is disturbing. It really is. Until
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there's consequences, it will continue. And there
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won't be. Guys, thanks so much for tuning in.
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We'll be back tomorrow for the full two-hour
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show, 9 to 11 a.m. Eastern time for DeProgram.
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Please stay tuned for TMI with Ted Rall and Manila
00:49:36.780 --> 00:49:39.099
Chan. That's coming up right now. Thank you very
00:49:39.099 --> 00:49:41.280
much, Jamarl. And thank you, Robby. See you soon.
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Have a good one, guys.