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Welcome to another horrifying special review episode of Bill and
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Ashley's Terror. Theer on the marquee this week is evil Deadburn.
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Join us after we get back from searching through a
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devil bag full of knives trying to find out the
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one that's actually important. All of that after these ads
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we have no control over. Welcome back. I'm Ashley Coffin.
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Joined us always by my co host and Terror Bill Bria.
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Bill Darling, how are we today?
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I'm doing all right, Esh, just looking to bumma cigarette.
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Well I would be the one to ask.
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Yeah, I figured you might have something for me if
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it will be my first experience with cigarettes.
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You know, I've never actually spoke one.
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I'll show you.
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Oh oh no, maybe me down the dark path?
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Yeah no no. Before we begin the show, let's have
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a look at the news from the world of horror. Bill,
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what have you read from the n acronomicon of horror
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this week?
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Well, there's a few things I wanted to bring up.
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One is that director Paul fig who has done a
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lot mostly comedy films over his career, stuff like I
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Don't Know Why, The most recent one I can think
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of as Jackpot. But he also did Bridesmaids as well
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as The Ghostbusters twenty sixteen, and then recently he had
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a big success with the Housemaid movie. So he's also
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done a simple Favor both one and two, which are
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kind of edging towards thriller, as well as The Houseman
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Blake Love Blake Lively one. So apparently he's going to
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be fully doing a whole, fully fledged horror movie for
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Blumhouse Atomic Monster, and its titled Detention. The screenplay is
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going to be written by named Daniel Gold. All plot
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details right now are completely under wraps, but it's going
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to be a horror thriller for sure. You know, he
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wanted to try something even darker, and I gotta say
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I'm intrigued because the slight bits here and there throughout
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some of his films where he's gone into darker territory,
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you know, seemed promising and so hopefully this might be
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kind of cool. So just something to sort of put
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on the radar, see what happens with it, see what develops.
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Another one from I was gonna say a friend of
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the show, but I guess a fan or we're someone
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we're a fan of usually generally is Dan Trachtenberg, who
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you know, took over the Predator franchise in a big
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way recently with Prey and Killer of Killers and bad Lands.
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He also did ten Colverfield Lane, and he's going to
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direct an animated horror comedy which is called Freddy the
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Thirteenth ha ha ha, and it's apparently about a family
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vacation turns into a nightmare when fun uncle Freddy X
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only kills the Boogeyman and takes on his powers.
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I don't know if this.
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Is going to be like super kitty oriented, or if
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it's going to be like more kind of teen oriented, violent,
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or like fully adult. I don't know. It's not really
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clear from this press release, the pictures that they have,
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you know, the sort of designs of the characters looks
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like you can go kind of either way. So I'm
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not sure what to expect from this, but I do
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really you know, respond to attractor Berg stuff.
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So hopefully it's going to be fun.
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Yeah, you'll have to report back because I will not.
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Yeah, yeah, well we'll see. You know, it's something not
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for me. Yeah, it's it's something that's kind of a new,
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you know, turn for him. So because he's had He's
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had a lot of effects in his films, but I
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don't think he's ever done anything fully animated, so this
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is kind of a new thing there. I talk to
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you about this during the week, and I wanted to
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bring it up just on air because we just had
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a funny laugh, you know, talking about it. Which is
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that the next movie from director Tim Miller. He's the
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guy that made the first Deadpool as well as Terminator
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Dark Fate. It doesn't have a title yet, but it
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stars Keanu Reeves, and apparently, during an interview with Kaleider,
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Reeves explained what the tagline is for the movie, which
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is Sharks, time Machine Groundhog Day.
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I'm like, I don't know if I can get behind this,
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but I just said back to you, Oh.
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God, yeah, I don't know. We don't know anything beyond
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that right now. Apparently the synopsis is a little bit
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more detailed. That says, surrounded by bodies, hostile mercenaries, and
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bloodthirsty sharks. The man, who I guess is Kanu's character,
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finds himself in a time loop and scrambling to break
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the cycle.
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So it sounds a.
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Little it's like oblivion but or whatever.
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No edge of Tomorrow. Edge of Tomorrow.
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Wasn't it called like Die Lived?
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I repeat?
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Yeah, it has like four titles. Yeah yeah. The animate
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that it was based on was called All You Need
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Is Kill. Like it's never had like one title anyway,
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So this doesn't even have a title yet, so we
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can't say it's like, you know, oh, Shark Time, Loop Man, Crown,
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Shark Day, Hot Shark Machine, Yeah, Jaws five, so yeah,
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loop the Loop. But yeah, it's uh, it sounds goofy,
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so it could be fun or it might not be.
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All Keanu Reeves movies. And I will definitely watch this,
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but I am going in with an eyebrow raised all
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the way up through my fucking head.
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Yeah.
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Well, you also said there's another one with Antonio van.
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There's another one an Tonio Banderas, which has been fully
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shot and has the title. I didn't bring that up,
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so I have to go look for it. What the
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heck is it called?
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Listen? Bring all of these major actors into these shark movies.
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I'm watch them. I'm a watch them.
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Yeah.
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I believe it's called Yes Above and Below, And it's
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actually coming out really really soon.
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It'sparently it's got to release date.
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July twenty nine, or is it going right to Las Street.
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It says theater, but I feel like it's gonna do
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two theaters in the entire country and uh and then
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probably it's gonna be on d Ojo uh huh.
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Yeah.
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And this one does have a trailer oute, so you
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can go see the trailer for it right now. It
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looks similar to uh, the recent Rennie Harlan one Deep
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Water a little bit. But there's something else that looks
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more similar to as well. I don't know, maybe one
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of the Deep Blue Sea's one of those sequels or
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something like that. But the idea being that, like, there's
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criminals on this boat and then there's also sharks surrounding
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them when they're doing their criminal stuff, so they do
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I guess they're and oh yeah, there's from the trailer,
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I believe that there's a couple of characters who are
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stuck in a diving cage or a shark cage.
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Oh, bring every plot, yeah, all the last movies in
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the last thing. A surfer in there, I'm sure.
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Yeah, and there's gonna be a hero seagull. Yeah, so
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you know.
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Steve steven Sgal comes back in his next feature film.
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So yeah, no, I I don't know what's going on
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with this one either. The director is someone I'm not
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too familiar with, Jesse V.
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Johnson.
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Apparently he's British. He's got actually a rather huge resume
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with movies like Pitfighter, at Alien Agent, The Butcher, The Package,
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The Debt Collector. So you can sort of see the
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lots of the period, the sort of the trends here. Yeah,
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so if you're into sort of low not low budget,
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but like low rent, you know, shark action movies, this
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might do the trick for you.
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So we'll see.
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I'm not knocking it, but like Antonio, really this is
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where we're at.
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Okay, man, you know, well you get older.
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The fact that he's tied makes me think that maybe
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it has something something more going to it. But then
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there was that again, that was that Shark movie with
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Haley Berry, and I was like.
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Oh yeah, yeah, and you never know.
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I mean, sometimes you know, people need to pay the bills,
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they need to eat, and yeah, they happen to find
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out that there's a production shooting like five minutes from
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their house or whatever or their vacation home, and it's like, okay, he's.
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Not married to Hollywood Royalty or anything. They could just
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you know, always have money right now, of course not. Yeah, yeah,
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well I guess he's just bored. Listen, you can use
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why not.
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Maybe he's just interested. Yeah, you know, let him live,
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Let him live.
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We did not You and I did not talk about
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this because I actually don't know your take on the
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the pop divas of today. But I did think it
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was funny that, you know, Charlie XCX has a new
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album coming out Music Fashion Film, and her biggest collab
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on it apparently right now, with a big featuring thing
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at the title of the track is a song called
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No One Lasts Forever featuring David Cronenberg.
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Okay, well, so she I'm not a big like I'm
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not a big fan of her other music, but I
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did really really like the Worthering Heights concept album that
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she did, and that one that first song with some other.
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Old guys, John Cale, who's actually a musician, yam talking, Yeah, yeah.
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I love that. That song is yeah, songs heavy, it's hard,
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it's really good and I'm such a I don't know.
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That soundtrack really got me. I liked it, but then
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I tried to listen to some of her others off
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and I'm like, oh, I'm too old for this.
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You know what I mean, You're having a bread summer,
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never having a brad summer.
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Now I have which in the woods fall that's.
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You know, right right? So yeah, no idea.
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If David, I assume it's going to be a similar
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spoken word type of thing, you know, it'd be hilarious
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if he was trying to sing something.
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I don't know if he can sing. I've never I
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don't think i've ever heard him.
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Try listen. Everybody's always so talent. Yeah maybe Hollywood maybe,
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but I'm interested. I'll listen to that song.
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Yeah. See, yeah, so interesting. When does it come out?
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July twenty fourth, so it's actually pretty soon, so I
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think by the time you hear this, you could probably.
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I am going to see The Odyssey that day.
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The twenty fourth.
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Yes, Oh okay, sorry, okay, you guys, I think you've
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told me this before, but you have an IMAX near
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you are you going?
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We have a seventy millimeter?
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Oh okay? Nice? Nice?
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So I'm very very excited for that, and I did.
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I took your advice and I got back roceeding.
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Oh good, good.
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Yeah, because I was saying again, I was like, let's
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see how we feel here, because if we like this,
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I'll always go for back row seating.
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I think for IMAX and large format stuff, I think
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it's probably the best way, just because it is so overwhelming,
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and like I get the feeling of like wanting to
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be closer and wanted to sort of be in velops,
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but you're already kind of getting that with bigger screens.
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So we watched the third Dune trailer and I was like,
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oh my god, I have to watch this all from
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the left, Yeah, from row to from the left for
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the I'm going to go see it twice for sure. Yeah,
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but I wanted to make sure I saw it opening
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weekend and I was just like, oh, no.
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Is that the only seat you're able to get? Is that? Why?
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Yeah? I was sold, Like I couldn't even get the
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tickets fast enough before they were all just disappearing.
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Yep.
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Yeah, And they had and I got it during the
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Remember when the Odyssey did their pre sales, Yeah, months
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before that's when it. Because I don't think the Dune
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tickets have even like officially gone on sale yet. So
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I'm in that opening weekend right right, right, And again
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I didn't know. I found out. I think they were
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up for like two hours when I saw the notifications,
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and by the time all four days we're just gone.
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So we're seeing it at like ten o'clock on a Sunday,
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which now Ken has to work on Mondays. And I
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didn't know that was going to be a thing.
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Yes, but at least it.
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Looks like it's a little shorter than all the other ones.
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We're gonna be fine, right, And I'm just gonna apologize
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to him the entire time, but he knows that I
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needed to see it. I needed to see it that
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first weekend. Yeah, yeah, and it's so funny. I was
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talking about the tickets and those tickets were fifty dollars
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a person, and I don't know why the Odyssey wasn't
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like that, and some kind excuse my language, some asshole
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as some listener put on our Spotify thing for the
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MCU cast and was like, who pays fifty dollars for
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a ticket? I'm like, somebody who has money, no kids
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and spends their money on the things that they like.
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That's too so fuck you. I hope you're listening to this.
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I can't say that online. Yeah, yeah, you know, but
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I can say it here.
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Yeah, say what you want, not too.
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Who spends fifty dollars on a movie ticket? I do
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because I want to, Yeah, because I can afford it.
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Oh oh, you don't get too old. Sorry, win win.
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And I'm sure it's someone who's never been to an Imax.
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Yeah no, I'm sure it's yeah, yeah, somebody who's not
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had the pleasure and never will. But also, like if
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you want to shame people, there's further tears all the
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way up.
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Like you see if you.
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Go on eBay, pick any theater in the country, any
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Imax seventy millimeter, especially for Dune or for Odyssey even
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still where you'll see some people trying to scalp like
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tickets of upwards of like three hundred dollars or that.
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I couldn't get the Odyssey tickets for that first round
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because I didn't know they were even doing that. But
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then the second they went on sale. Because after that happened,
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I signed up for the Imax website, so now I
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get notifications when the tickets are on sale. So when
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the Odyssey head it's official sale, I snatched them up.
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I think I told you I call Katie and Mark.
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I was like, it's f I go, Todd, you better
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as your phone right now because get gondat tickets.
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Got it.
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But I'm going to see Spider Man the next week.
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And I am a little sad because I know that
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people somebody came for me once and they're like, Ashley always
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talks about her seventy millimeter Imax, but not all the
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movies that she sees there are seventy millimeters, and so
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she just needs to stop. I'm like, I fucking know that, dumb, dumb,
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but I'm still watching the movie on the Imax screen,
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which is very different from just a regular standards because
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so like they don't film it always in Imax, but
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that doesn't mean they don't put it on, you know,
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the Imax screen. So I was like, I don't know
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if Spider Man Homecome not Homecoming, Oh my god, Spiderman
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Brand New Day was filmed in Imax at all, but
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the Odyssey is like booked up, so there is no
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Spider Man on the Imax. The saying like we're going
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to see what happens with Dune, Doom and Dune. Yeah,
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it's annoying. I know.
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I've had to deal with that since you know, my
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middle school days when I was big into Dune, and
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this is like the mid nineties, everyone was talking about
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Doom Doom the video game, so it was it was
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a lot of confusion from from the job, No Spider Man,
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Brand New Day. I just was at Burbank the other
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night and this saw on ad it where instead of
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because they know that they're shut out of IMAX screens,
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they are campaigning on shot for screen X. If you
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know what screen x's.
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They Disney was like, we have this thing, and I'm like,
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what does that mean? Does everybody have? Is it just
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the format? I have no idea.
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Yeah, well, well Disney is trying this other Infinity Vision
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thing for.
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Doomsday, and that's rolling my eye.
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That's later in the air. This screenex is already its
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own thing, and so it's not Disney. It's something that's existed. Actually,
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I believe if I am correct, it started in Japan
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or Korea or something like that. But I myself did
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a couple of screen X screenings that were sponsored by
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or co sponsored by Slash Film several years ago, back
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when Indiana Jones and Dial Destiny and the Creator were
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coming out, and they had me intro those for screen X,
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and so I had like a whole spiel to talk about,
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like screen X is like a two hundred and seventy
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five degrees of movie, and you know, because like the
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idea is that it's supposed to activate your peripheral vision,
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so like you're looking at the screen, it feels like
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everything's happening around you, even though you're not supposed to
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look directly at it. And so it's, yeah, it's it's weird.
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I mean it's it's cute, like it doesn't it's not
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a distraction. It's actually kind of neat in a way.
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But at the same time, it's nothing that's like so
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special that like I would feel, oh, you've got to
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go see it in screenex. That being said, you know,
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Disea is now campaigning on this idea of shot for screenex.
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Meaning usually with screenex conversions, what they'll do is they'll
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just have some sort of rudimentary algorithmic you know CG
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program put a bunch of sort of just like amorphous
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colors and shapes in the side of the frame or
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side of the theater rather because there's projectors on either
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side of it.
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I mean, it's surrounded, So you have to already have
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one of those.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, it's a special thing. Yeah, And
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so usually what they'll do is they'll have it be
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just sort of generic like yeah, yeah. But apparently if
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I'm getting this right for Spider Man, maybe they would
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have shot you know, actual material, you know, whether it's
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on set, or just made it special for this screenext version.
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So we'll see.
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I don't know if I'll get to see that version
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or not, but we'll see if it's uh, if it's
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worth it. But but yeah, so that's what's just he's
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relying on because the IMAX is out.
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Yeah, well that's their fault, Like you shouldn't have picked
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these weekends to drop your stuff. All of these movies
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have been pushed. Doomsday was supposed to come out at
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the end of I believe this month, oh wow, and
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then they pushed it, expecting because Dune has had to
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push theirs from December to March, both movies, and they
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did it. And you know what, I'm with DENI I'm like,
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you know what, f you, I'm not doing it this time.
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I'm not doing it.
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Yeah. Yeah, So he.
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Didn't and they had already booked all the things, So
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I kind of blame Marvel for that. Yeah, same with
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this one. Like you knew the Odyssey was coming out.
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You don't mess with Nolan, you don't mess with Doney.
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Yeah yeah, I like you called it duty Doney villanuve
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Billa Dune.
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Pila dune. Well it's not Dennis.
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Yeah, it's not Dennis.
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Oh that would be hilarious to go up to it,
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be like hey Dennis, like's note my name. I can't
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do the French ACKs right now? Uh uh yeah, so
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uh you goofed, you goof to Marvel. My last little
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piece here isn't really big. I just wanted to use
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it as an excuse to bring up Halloween the game
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for any listeners that also love to game. I'm not
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a huge gamer, as I picking up talked about here before,
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and then Ash and I were just talking off camera
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and neither is she. So so we're not you know,
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we're not the premiere gamer folks here. If you want that,
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there's another podcast to listen to. I'm sure, but but
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I will say that occasionally I'll get myself into a
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gaming headspace.
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Our Patreon and then you're gonna think that, yeah, are
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very big gamer.
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True, that's true, but but yeah, it's sporadic, it's not. Yeah,
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I'm not a gamer in the sense of like I
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play everything that's new that's coming out sort of stuff
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like I don't. But uh, yeah, they are releasing Halloween
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the game in the fall, the digital versions dropping September eighth,
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and the physical release, which they do release or just
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announced recently, arrives on October.
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Six, which my birthday.
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Yay.
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But and you know, if you get the physical edition,
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you get a box and you get like a cool
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like collectible and stuff. I already pre ordered digital, so
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I didn't want to spend more money to get the
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physical so you know, oh well I missed out on that.
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But they also announced like a new map for it,
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and it's going to be the Orange Grove Estates, which
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is another place that you can fight Michael if you're
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playing as a civilian, or you can kill civilians if
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you're playing as the Shape. But yeah, this is going
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to be another asymmetrical horror game from Gun Media, who
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also made the Friday of the Thirteenth game as well
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as the Texas Change Famasacer game. So same idea where
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it's a multiplayer experience where most people are playing civilians
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who are trying to either escape or stop the killer
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of the Shape, or you're playing as Michael and you're
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trying to do the opposite. That's what I Yeah, yeah,
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and yeah, I've already got like a group chat going
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with a couple of my other gamer horror friends where
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excited to you know, sort of jump on.
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But is its five exclusive?
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It's actually it's most platforms, and they're offering something called
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cross play, which means that as long as you have
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the game on whatever system, you can play with other
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people that have.
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Yeah, so it's so it's kind of going to be neat.
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So I wanted to put it out here for anybody
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listening who also loves to play these types of games.
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Maybe you'll see me when it comes out.
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Yeah, and then if we actually do you know something
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where maybe we'll put together for Patreon. So this is
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maybe a Patreon tease, but maybe I'll put out actual
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times and dates when I might be online, you know.
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Yeah, so you know, if.
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You want to know about that, if you want to
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play Halloween the game with me, maybe subscribe to our Patreon.
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She's cheap, she's two dollars. She cheps the show keep going,
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and we actually we were pretty popping over there, Like
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you should check out our we're doing Patreon pick our
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movies that we review. We give you guys little polls.
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We have little we call them shit shooting up pisodes
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where we just kind of talk and it's yeah, there's
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a lot going on over there. So for those scenarows
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you can.
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Uh yeah, check it out.
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All right, Well, we will be back with our feature
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film after these miss ups from the grave that we
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have no control over. And now it is time for
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our future film. Okay. Evil Dead Burns the sixth film
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in the Evil Dead franchise, directed by Sebastian I'm not
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even going to try who only has one other film
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as far as I've.
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Heard yet see it. I did not see Infested yet.
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It didn't look it looked like a Rachnophobia kind of
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knock off, but I think it had a different name
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when it first came out, but that one of the
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film festivals.
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Yeah, but you didn't see.
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I did not see.
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I did not.
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I know the cover though when I look I've seen
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its like a sneaker with a little rack knet out
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of it. So it is weird to me that we
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went from Lee Cronin, right, who did the or not
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Eduardo Cronan did the last one? Yes, rise yep, to
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somebody who's only done one film.
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The Crenan only did Hold the Ground first.
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That's true, but he is able.
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Well anyway, Yeah, it does seem like Ghost Has Pictures,
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which is Sam Raimi's production company, and you know Rabie
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and Reb Tappers Cambell being the producer.
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Still they want to use this franchise to sort of
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lift up.
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People that are you know, what are we doing here?
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I have I have theories, I have ideas, but I
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will say that I think that the thing for me.
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All right, Well, let's just I guess, well, let's get plot.
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But in the second let's just give people a tease. Because,
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as you and I have discussed after off camera, which
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we will now discuss on Earth, we have this is
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a rare Bill and Ash, I didn't.
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Want to like surprise you when we jumped in. I
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did not like this movie at all. Yeah, and I
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did not like it. It gave me so much more.
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Respect for Lee's Okay, okay, and I think I like
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it more than Rice.
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I really really did like it.
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And I can't wait to find out why, because this
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was a this was a mess.
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Well.
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What's what's interesting too, is that I kind of feared
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this and I think it's because there's something about this
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00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:25.759
one that is giving people really uh disparate takes, which
486
00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:26.960
I was surprised to see.
487
00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:30.160
This has always been kind of like, excuse my wording
488
00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:32.440
for it, but like a gore torture pouring kind of thing.
489
00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:34.680
But this one, it felt like when Saul just got
490
00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:36.920
to this point where like, we're just doing it to
491
00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:39.799
to do the gross stuff, and when you're when your
492
00:22:39.799 --> 00:22:43.359
effects and grossness becomes the only part of the movie
493
00:22:43.359 --> 00:22:47.559
where I can talk about it positively, you're really losing
494
00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:50.119
me with like, and it's not like Evil Dead. The
495
00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:53.119
first one had this amazing long plot, and I think
496
00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:56.640
that's why it works. This movie had way too much
497
00:22:56.720 --> 00:22:59.559
going on, way too many things that didn't make sense.
498
00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:02.000
You're mythology is not keeping up with itself.
499
00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:09.559
Yeah, I disagree, So I mean you can, yeah.
500
00:23:09.599 --> 00:23:12.440
But we'll get to the reasons why. I think, like
501
00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:14.720
the way that the Dead Ights are supposed to act,
502
00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:16.759
the way that they do act, the things that kill them,
503
00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:18.880
the things that don't kill them because they never really die,
504
00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:23.400
but in this one some of them do anyway. So
505
00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:27.160
the plot, after the loss of her husband, a grieving
506
00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:30.279
woman seeks solace with her in laws at their secluded
507
00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:34.000
family home. However, it soon becomes a reunion from hell,
508
00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:36.759
as the Book of the Dead unleash's demonic forces that
509
00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:39.559
transform them into dead eights one by one. I wanted
510
00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:42.559
to use their poll quote for it, because I also
511
00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:44.440
don't think that that is what happens at this pace.
512
00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:46.519
It's not. Yeah, that's actually are that is.
513
00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:48.440
Their own chosen poll quote.
514
00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:51.759
Yeah, yeah, right.
515
00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:56.000
And so there's a lot in this that is definitely
516
00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:58.279
following as the last two films have or actually, I
517
00:23:58.480 --> 00:24:01.200
be this is the second of two sequels to you
518
00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:04.319
could say, Fetti Alvarez is Evil Dead, So you know,
519
00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:06.559
Fetti's really did seem to.
520
00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:08.359
Kick off I was thinking of. I was like, I
521
00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:10.039
know that there's a sexy Spanish.
522
00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:13.319
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's him, and that was
523
00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:16.559
from twenty thirteen, and I think that, you know, these
524
00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:21.599
movies are definitely building on that one, primarily while still
525
00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:24.319
having you know, quite a bit of references and reference
526
00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:25.519
and so on and so forth.
527
00:24:25.559 --> 00:24:28.319
For the Rami films, but and I don't know.
528
00:24:28.359 --> 00:24:32.519
I don't know ultimately at this point if my suspicion
529
00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:35.319
is that they want to consider the Raimi stuff still
530
00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:38.440
kind of sort of canon somewhere, but they're not being
531
00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:41.200
very explicit about it in terms of tone, in terms
532
00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:43.880
of look, in terms of feeling. They definitely are emulating
533
00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:46.680
the fete, you know, they're definitely like keeping that going,
534
00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:47.559
and I feel.
535
00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:50.119
Like maybe that's where it's lose. I didn't hate that one,
536
00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:54.200
but I didn't love it like I loved the first one.
537
00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:56.799
And I also just felt like it was too stylish,
538
00:24:56.839 --> 00:25:00.680
too stylized. I don't know, but that one compared to
539
00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:03.480
this one, I mean, going in, I was actually pretty excited,
540
00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:06.039
Like I enjoyed parts of Evil Dead Rise and now
541
00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:09.279
I thought that that story compared to this one, makes
542
00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:11.680
a lot more sense. And you know, I love the franchise,
543
00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:14.240
and I thought that the premise had a lot of potential,
544
00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:17.799
even though I didn't watch a trailer. I only saw
545
00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:21.440
that one first snippet of her like crolling through the
546
00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:23.839
loin show while everybody's flying around, and I was like,
547
00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:25.400
I didn't want to do it. So unfortunately it did
548
00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:28.680
not work for me, the gore is impressive. The practical
549
00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:32.400
effects were like really solid, and visually it's a really
550
00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:36.519
well made movie. But underneath that, I found the story convoluted,
551
00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:39.160
the pacing wasn't even, and by the end, I was
552
00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:41.319
just really more frustrated than entertained.
553
00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:42.640
I'm sorry.
554
00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:47.480
That's not for you to apologize about. It's for Sebastian
555
00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:48.519
to apologize about.
556
00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:54.720
Yeah, I will say my response to this was, Yeah,
557
00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:58.440
I was kind of expecting a continuation of that tone
558
00:25:58.839 --> 00:26:02.160
of from the Fede film. And obviously, you know, even
559
00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:05.039
though Lee Cronnin definitely gave his own spin on it
560
00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:08.000
and rise, it definitely felt like that was where the
561
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:11.079
series wanted to be pitched, you know, thematically or tonally
562
00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:15.319
and uh so. And also I think there is a
563
00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:18.000
I don't know if this is actually Ramy's concern as
564
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:21.839
a producer or if it's just the filmmakers themselves, you know,
565
00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:24.839
being gunshy. But I don't think anyone wants to directly
566
00:26:24.839 --> 00:26:27.160
compete with Sam. I don't think that they want.
567
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:30.799
Sure we're trying with their direct like the cinematography, Oh.
568
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:33.680
No, that I mean, but I feel like I thought
569
00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:34.559
it was awesome.
570
00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:36.400
I thought I love the back and forths. I love
571
00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:36.839
the woner.
572
00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:39.359
I love that there's a sequence where when I talked
573
00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:42.160
to Sebastian for Slash Film, he described there as a
574
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:46.119
bathroom scene where one of the deadlights grabs Alice, who's
575
00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:48.599
the heroin, and you know, drag zero to the ceiling.
576
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:51.359
And in most cases you would probably think of doing
577
00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:53.240
that with a revolving room, which is a set built
578
00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:55.319
on a gimbal, where like it actually the whole set.
579
00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:57.119
Turns around like they did in the last one.
580
00:26:57.079 --> 00:26:59.400
Right, they did in other tons of other movies, you know,
581
00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:02.599
Night Street, the Fly, like all sorts of stuff. And
582
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:05.000
actually what he said was quote, we had a lot
583
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:07.119
of cables on the stunt performers, and we had like
584
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:09.880
a three sixty degree head attached to the camera which
585
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:11.960
allows it to rotate. So a lot of people were
586
00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:14.599
involved to pull the wires in everything. But this was
587
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:16.759
like an amazing stunt performance. The room was still, and
588
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:18.960
they had so many cables. It was really complicated, and
589
00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:21.559
we just removed the cables and cg but the camera
590
00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:26.039
movement was on you know, on stage, and so in effect,
591
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:29.119
rather than yeah, locking off the camera and like moving
592
00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:31.559
the room, it was the camera was moving and the
593
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:32.880
people were moving and the room.
594
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:34.759
Was still, so it was the reverse of everything.
595
00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:37.279
Yeah, and like like I said, the effects, the gore,
596
00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:40.480
everything was great. Some of it didn't make sense to
597
00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:42.279
be but you know, I mean this falls into the
598
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:46.079
familiar hard chopper. Everyone's making baffling decisions that makes you
599
00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:49.720
wonder if they're even trying to survive. Like there's no
600
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:52.880
shortage of the brutal kills. But underneath that, the story
601
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:55.920
feels really messy. Like I said, the pacings all over
602
00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:59.079
the place, and even the ending, I was just very underwhelmed.
603
00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:01.519
I don't know, It's like, at a certain point, these
604
00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:04.599
people make me feel like I just don't even care anymore.
605
00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:08.599
I was really like, how many times are we going
606
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:11.160
to say there's this magic dagger. There's this magic dagger,
607
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:12.960
but no one ever goes and looks for it. The
608
00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:15.440
deadites are looking for this dagger, but they're taking over
609
00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:17.960
people who also don't go look for it. Where everything's
610
00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:21.240
in the attic, the family technically knows everything that's going
611
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.319
on with these demons, along with other stuff. When we
612
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:25.880
get to the domestic violent stuff and they are not
613
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:27.960
using it at all, they react in a way that
614
00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:32.559
just doesn't make sense, and that's just I don't know.
615
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:38.240
It just kind of really left me confused why we
616
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:40.000
were doing this and going in and out. Why do
617
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:43.920
the deadits suddenly have this boiling burn ability. We don't
618
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:46.720
find out why all of a sudden they can boil everything.
619
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:49.759
And I'm like, that's great, well why can you do that?
620
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:52.160
That part it was again something I was really excited
621
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:54.400
to see what I would consider return to the series,
622
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:56.440
which is that in the Raimi films, you know, shit
623
00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:00.400
will happen that, like there's no real basis for and
624
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:02.799
up to like the woods attacking people, you know, and
625
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:04.559
and that sort of thing. They have a power of trees,
626
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:06.839
which you know is never really explained.
627
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:10.039
Well for that's scary. It makes sense.
628
00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:13.359
It doesn't make sense, but it's scarier, but it doesn't
629
00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:15.480
make sense in sense like you know, where do we
630
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.079
go like where it dead dites have a power over
631
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:20.640
trees or where do we know that dead lights have
632
00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:26.599
power over uh uh you know, uh film cameras in
633
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:29.079
the basement, you know in the first movie, or you know,
634
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:31.240
can sort of make things turn on and off, or
635
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:33.279
can make the clock go crazy, like you know, it's
636
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:35.559
it's kind of just evil as his force that like
637
00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:36.640
can do anything.
638
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:40.079
Not all of in the person's mind. We were getting
639
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:42.559
into this last night because I think, so, oh well,
640
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:45.440
then why sometimes Ash thinks he's fighting with somebody and
641
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:47.839
then when he snaps out of it, he's just choking himself.
642
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:49.880
So there is a lot of mind play going on.
643
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:52.519
I think it's mind playing as directed by the evil
644
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:55.119
Force in terms of just this unleashed evil force. And
645
00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:58.920
therefore you could say that the evil force is what
646
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:01.839
has this ability to play with someone's mind, you know
647
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:05.799
sort of thing. Anyway, I think there's a remarkable amount
648
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:07.799
of ambiguity in terms of what the Dead Night's in
649
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:11.160
terms of all the way down to like infection, right,
650
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:14.720
which we as horror fans are so used to the
651
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:17.400
zombie mythos, and you know, just the idea of infection
652
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:20.279
and somebody getting scratched or bitten or some sort of
653
00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:22.880
exchange of you know, fluids or something which.
654
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:25.599
Or just killed or just killed or just killed.
655
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:29.000
And yeah, in terms of being taken over by a deadite,
656
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:32.119
it is completely at random. And I think that nowhere
657
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:33.880
is that seemed better than an evil dead too, where
658
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.000
Ashes taken over not once but twice, and you know
659
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:39.200
he's able to dispel it because of his love for
660
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:42.759
Linda and all that sort of thing. But in terms
661
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:46.039
of like what causes it, like it's just it just happens, you.
662
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:48.599
Know, Well, what causes it is the reading of the words.
663
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:51.079
Right, and then ultimately after that point like all bets
664
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:52.279
are off sort of thing.
665
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:55.319
Which was Joseph's fault in this. So I did appreciate that.
666
00:30:55.359 --> 00:31:00.599
But even like we as watching the dead, Dightes never die,
667
00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:04.000
even when they get stabbed sometimes by the magic sword, like,
668
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:05.200
they still kind of don't die.
669
00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:06.960
No, they don't, I mean they.
670
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:09.519
Kind of do. Okay, So explain thya how come thya did?
671
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:12.400
How come Joseph was able to smush Thia's face and
672
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:13.200
she never came back?
673
00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:13.440
Right?
674
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:16.400
So that's I think from the bodily dismemberment idea, which
675
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:17.400
is that you could go all the way back to
676
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:20.000
the original film. I think this is Synfetti's film, but
677
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:23.400
I couldn't be remembering where it says the only way
678
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:25.640
to stop them is either through the act of bodily
679
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:28.039
does me, meaning like cut all their you know, limbs off,
680
00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:30.279
or at least cut like part you know of their
681
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:31.000
He didn't.
682
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.000
Cut anything off of her. He smushed her face with
683
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:35.839
the TV right right, I'm just saying.
684
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:38.599
I'm just saying I think it was enough destruction to
685
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:40.880
count as bodily dismemverment, is what I read it.
686
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:43.880
That mean, okay, so the but that but heads can
687
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:45.680
roll around and still talk to you, and the bodies
688
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:47.799
are dancing outside without their heads.
689
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:48.400
I don't know that.
690
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:50.079
I just thought that was I mean, Thia was one
691
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:51.119
of my favorite characters in it.
692
00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:52.839
Oh me too, Yeah, yeah, but.
693
00:31:54.359 --> 00:31:57.799
Yeah, I mean I do think that. Yeah, the looseness
694
00:31:57.799 --> 00:31:59.880
of it all. And again, as I keep saying, and
695
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:03.039
every article I've ever written about this franchise, the continuity
696
00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:07.039
of it is incredibly loose, like it's just yeah, there's logic,
697
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:09.559
but it's only so far as like an emotional logic.
698
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:13.680
It's never been intelligence logic, because yeah, if you try
699
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:15.960
and pair it down to like this, this this happens,
700
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:20.039
if this this this happens, you'll go insane because they're
701
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:23.000
just they're just isn't a through line. And you'll also
702
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:24.759
try and go in saying if you want to say,
703
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:27.559
because there's all this debate surrounding like the original trilogy,
704
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.759
and like, are these sequels? Are these reboots? You know?
705
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:33.519
Are they both? And ultimately the answer is kind of both,
706
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:36.279
because there's various reasons why they had to reshoot the
707
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:38.920
openings of Evil Dead Too and Army of Darkness with
708
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.480
different actors you know as characters and omit characters from the.
709
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:43.720
Recaps and that sort of thing.
710
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.440
But when you do that, I mean you're left with
711
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:49.599
movies that kind of stand alone, but the same time
712
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:52.480
are also sequels to each other. So I think that's
713
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:55.279
where the series lays as like a franchise, you know,
714
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:58.599
and it's not. It's not Marvel, it's not Fast and Furious,
715
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:00.400
it's not you know, back to the future anything you
716
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:02.559
can say where it's like everything's lined up very clearly.
717
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:07.359
Here, it's like gleefully all over the place.
718
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:09.640
Well that sounds like My thing is when the Dead
719
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:12.680
Lights take you over, they they get the memory, like
720
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:14.720
they know what's going on in the head of the
721
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.799
person who's taken over because they use that against you. Right,
722
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:19.759
So when they took over Joseph, like, why didn't they
723
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:21.279
just go upstairs and be like, there's a bag with
724
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:22.039
a budget of eyes, like.
725
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:23.880
They well, they did the point, and then that's why
726
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:26.279
he was going out. But yeah, they didn't take him
727
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:28.279
over until later. And yeah, and even.
728
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:31.440
Alice doesn't even go Nobody goes Joseph, like everybody knows
729
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:33.519
what's going on, right, and nobody goes to look for
730
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:37.839
that knife. Once right, not once right? All right, positives.
731
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.160
I liked Alice. She's the strongest part of the movie.
732
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:42.880
She's someone that you can root for. She's carrying trauma
733
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:45.119
from this abusive marriage and she's dealing with the death
734
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:48.799
of her husband. She's constantly treated like an Outlander outsider
735
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:51.079
from the family. I said Outlander because I'm watching so
736
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.400
much Outlander. Everybody has the emotional anchor of the film.
737
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:57.200
But there's still some decisions that's like showing up to
738
00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:00.599
your husband's funeral and sneakers in sweats. I'm not I
739
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:05.200
understand trauma, but I know I wouldn't do that out
740
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.119
of you know. And she doesn't fully respect the dead
741
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:12.320
husband because he abused her. There's definitely a cycle there.
742
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:14.840
There's a lot of weird shit with the family. Like
743
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:17.280
in the beginning, it's Joseph's birthday and they're at a
744
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:19.159
night club, which I've never seen a cake brought out
745
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:20.559
at a night club. So I thought that that was
746
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:25.960
really interesting. And there's jealousy in between these four. You know,
747
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:30.039
she goes to hug Joseph and she they accidentally almost kiss.
748
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:32.199
And now I am friends with like and work with
749
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:34.719
a lot of Europeans. The fact I do it all
750
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:37.159
the time because most people come in for the double kiss.
751
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:39.000
You never know who's going to do it, who who's
752
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:40.800
going to treat you like a European and who's going
753
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:43.719
to treat you like American. And the accidental picks that
754
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:46.159
I have done throughout my entire life are many. But
755
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:50.199
you know, Will really takes it the wrong way, and
756
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:53.119
we see that he's shitty, he gets all drunk or
757
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:55.519
he's drunk, he angrily drives home and.
758
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:58.079
He hits Jessica. Yeah, and we have.
759
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:00.119
Seen in the beginning. I liked the beginning. I thought
760
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:03.599
the beginning was cool until they boil the water, tying
761
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:05.519
it in a little bit to the other movie. I
762
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:10.480
thought it was very effective bringing her in. But Will
763
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:13.960
is the descendant of Benjamin, who is not the guy
764
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:18.119
from the Tennessee uh House's grandfather. There's this whole other
765
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:20.280
thing which I wish we explored. It would have been
766
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:20.760
so cool.
767
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:22.800
I feel like that's what they're setting up. The Circle
768
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:23.360
of the Wise Men.
769
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:25.800
Is this new idea that they've introduced, which I have
770
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:27.119
to believe is going to be.
771
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:30.840
I don't want to play next Evil Dead Wrath.
772
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:32.679
I don't want to say it's going to be a
773
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:35.079
one to one, but I feel like this could be
774
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:38.280
the Evil Dead universe's version of like a shield or
775
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:41.159
you know, some sort of organization or group that like
776
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:43.599
can turn up from movie to movie or you know,
777
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:47.039
if it's a TV show whatever, and you know, sort
778
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:50.480
of be used as like a cheat code to like lore,
779
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:52.920
you know, or connection to like, you know, bigger things
780
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:56.719
of the universe. Because I think one of the interesting
781
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:58.840
things about this franchise wise, there's a couple of things.
782
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.440
One is you already said it. This is a direct sequel,
783
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:03.960
one of the first, maybe the first direct sequel in
784
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:06.199
the series that we've had in terms of seeing the
785
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:08.920
last Dead light from the last movie turn up as
786
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:13.480
the first one here to connect those because typically always
787
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.880
it's been somebody finding a book of the Dead and
788
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:18.920
reading the words, and in this one, it's not just
789
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:23.159
Joseph playing the recording of his grandfather. It's also the
790
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:27.119
discovery of the Candarian dagger behind the wall, which as
791
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:30.400
he's discovering it, the voiceover is saying, like, do not
792
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:32.920
unwrap this thing. If they do, they can sense it,
793
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:34.840
they'll come for it, you know, blah blah blah.
794
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:35.880
Well, and that's what got me.
795
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:38.840
The opening, like him doing the research, the recording explaining
796
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:42.480
the dagger, Jessica's attack, Will's accident. I was hooked in
797
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:44.960
the beginning, like it felt like it was expanding on
798
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:49.159
the evil dead mythology until we just want to left continue.
799
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:51.519
But I also say, what's interesting is that there is
800
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:53.320
like a book in this movie, but it's actually the
801
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:55.880
Grandfather's notebook. It's not a Book of the Dead. And
802
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:59.159
so we could say that, because this is a sequel
803
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:01.400
to Rise, that the real Book of the Dead is
804
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:03.920
still wherever it got left at the end of Rise.
805
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:05.920
I think it's probably still in that the ruins of
806
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:06.800
that apartment building.
807
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.519
Oh yeah, that whole place imploded anyway from the earthquake.
808
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:13.719
Or whatever happened there, so it's probably still there. And
809
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:16.079
then there's this idea that I feel like Rise kind
810
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:19.519
of introduced, which is that there may be multiple books,
811
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:23.679
you know, in the universe, and one of the intriguing
812
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:25.639
there's a lot of Easter eggs in this movie, especially
813
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:28.159
in that notebook and one of the things that you
814
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:31.440
see as a newspaper clipping that says four people die
815
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:35.039
in cabin fire and it seems to be a reference
816
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:37.280
to Evil Dead twenty thirteen. But what's interesting is that
817
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:42.039
in Red pen the number four is circled by presumably Benjamin.
818
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:45.719
So it's like, is that a hint of oh, maybe
819
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:48.360
there's a confusion about how many people died in a
820
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:50.880
cabin you know in the world sister got out because
821
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:54.000
the sister got out, but Miya. But also, you know,
822
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:56.559
is that referencing even the original films where it's like
823
00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:58.639
maybe this happened again, you know sort of thing.
824
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:01.480
It feels like it would be the original one because
825
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:03.480
technically Ash disappeared.
826
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:08.800
Yeah, he also disappeared into the Middle Ages, so I
827
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:10.719
think that, Yeah, this Circle of the Wiseman, and by
828
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:12.679
the way, Circle of the Wise Men is also a
829
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:14.880
bleak reference to Army of Darkness where there's the Wise
830
00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:16.920
Men in Army of Darkness that helped Bash come back
831
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:20.360
to the future and all that. So yeah, I'm intrigued
832
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:22.800
as to what they plan in terms of that as
833
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:25.599
an organization, and as you know, and by the way,
834
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:28.639
he does say he being the grandfather on the recordings
835
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:32.280
that he was a professor of history or agent history,
836
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:35.159
and I think there's an implication that, yeah, he he
837
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:38.079
knew Professor Nobi from the original.
838
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:41.639
But it helps. Yeah, yeah, And that's why I thought, like,
839
00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:44.280
this book just written on every page is don't say
840
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:46.519
the words. Don't say the words. And then Alice starts
841
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:48.239
reading the words, and I thought it was funny that
842
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:49.960
she didn't say the last one, but it didn't matter.
843
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:53.679
It was already too late. And that's why, unfortunately whatever, I.
844
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:56.960
Was creepy when Jessica said the words, I was like, oh,
845
00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:59.039
the dead Nights can't call themselves up. I'm like, that's
846
00:38:59.079 --> 00:38:59.920
really freaky to me.
847
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:03.679
But did she or did Joseph accidentally do it when
848
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:05.800
he played it on the recording and she was just
849
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:09.559
she was, well, the fire, I don't know.
850
00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:12.320
The recording doesn't actually say the words. The recording is
851
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:14.400
talking about the words, but it's not saying them. It's
852
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:16.679
not it's talking about the dagger during that.
853
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:18.800
So it doesn't make sense that the dead ights can
854
00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:24.519
call up their own words, but whatever, So she blows
855
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:25.960
that up and that's where we go to the funeral,
856
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:27.920
and like that's unfortunately. Like when we get back to
857
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:29.840
this lake house, that's where the movie starts to kind
858
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:32.159
of lose me. Like the funeral is interesting. There's this
859
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:35.679
really good tension there. Everyone is kind of blaming Alice
860
00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:40.599
from his family. His family sucks. Yeah, there's constructions surrounding
861
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:44.079
the crematorium, which creates like this very uncomfortable atmosphere, to
862
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:47.199
which I would never the way. I would march outside
863
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:50.519
and be like, you better turn that shit off right now.
864
00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:53.280
I was dying during the whole sequence. It's so funny
865
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:53.719
to hear the.
866
00:39:55.239 --> 00:40:00.159
During these remakes, just weird, you know. Eggar's like, I'm
867
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:02.079
going to go down and say goodbye to my son
868
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:05.679
one last time, and then then Will's like not dead,
869
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:08.719
to which I'm like, where was that other lady? And
870
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:10.840
didn't someone get killed there? And wouldn't someone call the
871
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:13.679
cops because he killed the worker at the creamatur. Anyway,
872
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:17.199
I guess we're not going to care about that. So
873
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:20.079
we get to this lake house, and honestly, the house
874
00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:22.039
gave me more anxiety than the dead eight. It's like
875
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:24.880
it's completely falling apart. It's cold, it's dark. I'm like,
876
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:27.159
what do you mean you live here? I'm almost with
877
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:30.159
the dad. I'm like, yeah, I don't deserve this house.
878
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:33.079
It looks like it's ready to collapse. And it becomes
879
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:36.360
the setting for almost the pretty much the entire second half,
880
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:38.719
and honestly, the way I would have if I was
881
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:40.679
somebody who didn't want to be there, like Alice, the
882
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:42.320
way I would have turned around and walked out of
883
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:44.000
that house. But we find out that they got married there,
884
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:45.559
and that's where I found out that Danny Wood the
885
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:48.599
girlfriend was just the girlfriend, because she was like, oh,
886
00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:50.880
you've been here before. She's like that I got married here,
887
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:53.840
But it sounded like the girlfriend had been there before,
888
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:57.239
since Joseph is living there and there are wedding pictures
889
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:00.599
of Alice and Will everywhere. I don't know how she
890
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:03.679
wouldn't have known that she was there before, So I.
891
00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:04.400
Think they did throw it.
892
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:05.719
The second time I saw it, I picked up on
893
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:07.880
a line where it's like Joseph just got in today,
894
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:10.599
he's been living there, but implying that she wasn't there yet.
895
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:13.960
Baya wasn't there yet so yeah, it's very rushed, but yeah,
896
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:18.639
it's it's there. No, And I love the way that
897
00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:21.639
the house is designed to be, you know, the franchise's
898
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:25.159
newest dilapidated location. It's funny that, like, yeah, you know,
899
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:28.559
the original film being set in like a literal, real
900
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:31.079
life shitty cabin in the woods in Tennessee that was
901
00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:33.840
falling apart has now become you know, a staple of
902
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:36.719
the series, where like, with the exception of Army of Darkness,
903
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:37.519
every Evil Dead.
904
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.239
Movie is saying forward with the last one out of that.
905
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:43.239
Well, but it was falling apart apartment building, you know,
906
00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:43.840
so that was that.
907
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:47.639
Yeah, but that was still like more more tied into
908
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:51.400
the real world and a suburban than this like out
909
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:52.920
in the woods kind of thing. And I thought that
910
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:55.519
each one of these movies was bringing the Evil Dead
911
00:41:55.599 --> 00:42:00.280
closer to like like what's going on in city and
912
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:02.119
stuff like that. I thought that that's what we were
913
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:03.960
going to So this kind of felt like a step back.
914
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:07.079
My biggest issue is did.
915
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:09.519
You see uh as the show I did?
916
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:13.000
Yeah, do you remember? Yeah, eventually it takes over the town. Yeah, yeah,
917
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:13.760
and that's all.
918
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:16.000
Moving forward again, Like this just feels like we're moving
919
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:19.480
backwards into where we're pushing the story to go, which
920
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:22.920
just seems like world domination, like a World War Ze
921
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:25.239
kind of situation. I don't know what else we're doing.
922
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:26.440
I don't know what else we're doing.
923
00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:28.360
I don't know if their ambitions are that big. I
924
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:32.079
feel like they want to try and keep it intimate.
925
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:33.679
Because it's like, did they just want this dagger and
926
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:36.199
then they were done? Like what is doing they?
927
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:38.800
Yeah, they do say like, you know, nothing will stand
928
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:40.840
in our ways as long as we have the dagger,
929
00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:43.280
implying that like this is the only thing that can
930
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:45.320
stop us, you know, therefore.
931
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:48.800
Okay, Yeah. My biggest issue is once Eggar, the dad
932
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:53.960
becomes infected, nobody behaves rationally anymore. He murders that family dog,
933
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:56.760
which I saw coming, and I was just like, okay,
934
00:42:56.880 --> 00:42:58.679
I'm going to prepare myself for this. What it wasn't
935
00:42:58.679 --> 00:42:59.920
ready for is I had to see that like for
936
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:01.800
or five times throughout the movie. They just kept killing
937
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:04.119
that dog. And I don't think I've ever seen animals
938
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:07.199
turn into the dead eites besides the deer.
939
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:09.679
Maybe in the show, yeah, the deer, and then definitely
940
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:13.280
in the show there was something I thought, Uh, but
941
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:15.039
good question, I don't know off hands.
942
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:18.480
So he literally murders the family dog in front of everybody,
943
00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:21.559
which people saw was kind of coming because even Thila
944
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:24.719
was like, give me that bottle opener. He's acting weird.
945
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:29.000
He's hitting the dog. Yeah, no, one is reacting at all.
946
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:29.239
Right.
947
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:31.320
Well, see, this is the thing that I really love
948
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:33.599
about the film, which is especially on my second watch.
949
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:35.519
I was picking up on all of these hints and
950
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:39.400
they are hints, they're not telegraphs that hard. But the
951
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:42.920
history of abuse in the family is really well drawn,
952
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.719
I thought, in terms of down to the way that
953
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:48.480
the dad has a whistle for the dog and it's
954
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:50.000
the sailing whistle that really.
955
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:50.719
Used on Alice.
956
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:53.920
And this idea of you know, they even have like
957
00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:56.079
thea say it to Joseph where it's like you can
958
00:43:56.119 --> 00:43:57.559
kill your you can't kill your father, but.
959
00:43:57.519 --> 00:43:59.599
You can kill me super easily. Right, Well, that was
960
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:01.239
a great yeah, And this idea.
961
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:04.159
That people who are living who are dealing with this abuse.
962
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:06.400
Now we have Grandma Polly and then the other two
963
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:08.400
who are not part of it, doesn't seem like Joseph
964
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:09.920
is abusing anybody.
965
00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:12.880
Right yet it's not yet so he murders the.
966
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:16.000
Dog, and then everyone decides, let's put him in the car.
967
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:17.400
Why would you.
968
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:19.239
Ever, Well, he's having a seizure, I guess, and this
969
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:21.639
idea that like, you know, oh, we got to get
970
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.360
him to the hospital because he's clearly operating under some
971
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:26.719
sort of duress of like he's losing his mind and
972
00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:27.840
he's losing his breathing.
973
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:30.960
We all go like, at this point, the party is over.
974
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:32.239
This is over.
975
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:32.599
Yeah.
976
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:36.000
So Joseph then watches his possessed father murder his girlfriend
977
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:37.960
even though he has a gun pointed directly at him
978
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:39.280
in his head, and I kind of get it, but
979
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:42.800
as somebody who knows what's going on because you've read
980
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.559
the books and you're seeing his eyes and let's obviously
981
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:49.039
not your dad anymore. That movie, that moment was just
982
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.159
kind of lost for me. There is a Bill burd
983
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:53.760
joke that made me and Ken laugh out loud when
984
00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:56.599
we were watching it, and the joke is something along
985
00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:58.320
the lines of, you don't want to marry the guy,
986
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:01.519
the bitchy guy from the airplane who screens when there's turbulence,
987
00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:04.840
because when you're at home one night and the serial
988
00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:07.400
killer kicks down your bedroom door. You're gonna look to
989
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:09.079
him to save you, and you're just gonna see his
990
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:12.000
bitchy feet going out the window. That is exactly what happened.
991
00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:15.920
Oh yeah, bitchy Joseph jumps out of the ceiling the
992
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:19.440
sun roof of the car and runs away, leaving his
993
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.119
father in there to kill his girlfriend. Yeah, and he
994
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:23.840
just watches from far away, and I get the whole
995
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:26.039
like coward this and that, and I was like, oh
996
00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:29.760
my god, okay, okay, and these characters just making keep
997
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:33.639
making decisions that exist only because the script needs them to.
998
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:36.599
And that's when I stopped worrying about who is survive
999
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:39.000
and whatever, because I was like, I, honestly, I am ready
1000
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:40.599
for all of you to die, So let's just speed
1001
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:40.960
this up.
1002
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:41.320
Yeah.
1003
00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:43.639
Whereas I saw it as coming completely out of character,
1004
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:47.199
I see the characters backstories in their performances, in those
1005
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:52.960
little hands, and I see them being really awful, racist, abusive,
1006
00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:56.960
you know, cowardly people who, yeah, we're always going to
1007
00:45:57.000 --> 00:45:59.880
go this way because of the internal issues that they have.
1008
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:03.119
And I liked that the issue of using the dead dights,
1009
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:06.159
as you know, it's been done in other Possession films,
1010
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:08.920
for sure, but this idea that the demons, you know,
1011
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:10.960
didn't really need to be there in order to cause
1012
00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:13.119
this evil to happen, Like you guys were already evil
1013
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:15.920
to each other, if not other people, and you know,
1014
00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:17.800
the demons just ramp it up to eleven.
1015
00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:24.920
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Uh, there's there's a lot
1016
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:27.599
of just hanging out in the house and the dead
1017
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:29.679
dighte just like when he like, of course it's a
1018
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.320
cool shot when the dad shoots himself like three times
1019
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:36.840
in the face of the gun, but why are we okay?
1020
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:39.360
And then he just stands outside and he never comes in.
1021
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:42.239
He never tries to like help the other one. The
1022
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:44.320
Thank god the grandma was there because she at least
1023
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:48.639
had a lot of comic relief, if I would say, like,
1024
00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:50.800
I kept expecting that Charity gremlins her.
1025
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:51.679
And it never did.
1026
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:53.159
Well.
1027
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:54.679
It did trapper the end.
1028
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:58.480
For so the scene before that she has beaten the
1029
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:01.039
shit out of Alice and then soddenly you get strapped
1030
00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:05.280
to this thing and you're incapacitated. The way that the
1031
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:08.320
demons were acting, the Dead Heights were acting just didn't
1032
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:13.840
didn't It wasn't consistent. It just wasn't consistent, you know,
1033
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:16.480
and not even the dagger. Like the dagger deserves its
1034
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:19.360
own discussion. The movie spends almost its entire run time
1035
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:23.320
talking about this dagger. Benjamin researches it, the Dead Heights wanted,
1036
00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:27.239
Joseph searches for it. The recording explains that everything kind
1037
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:30.039
of revolves around this dagger, so naturally I expected this
1038
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:33.639
big payoff. Instead, Alice literally dumps all of the double
1039
00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:36.000
bag on the floor and just starts like when by
1040
00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:39.360
when stabbing the one that's labeled Kendarian.
1041
00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:41.760
Well, right, Yeah, it's almost like an Indiana Jones the
1042
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:44.480
Last Crusade thing where it's like and also I have
1043
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:51.760
chosen it's not his voice at all. That's great.
1044
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:55.320
It was relatively anti climatic after all that build up.
1045
00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:58.639
And I like, I again like the brutality of it's
1046
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:01.440
this little, tiny dagger thing. It's not this ornate, you know,
1047
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:02.960
thing that we see from the first film, which we
1048
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:06.800
do see as a prop. So that's another interesting wrinkle
1049
00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:10.280
where it's like we see what hold on to Yeah,
1050
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:16.599
a little tell that jalas interesting, But I like the again,
1051
00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:19.199
the brutality of you can stab somebody who's possessed with it,
1052
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:21.599
and it will dispel the evil, but it also kills
1053
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:24.679
them because it's a dagger. So it's like you can
1054
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:27.320
get rid of the demons, but you know you're also
1055
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:28.079
killing this person.
1056
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:29.440
You try to stab them in the arm.
1057
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:32.480
Well, no, I don't know, Maybe that wouldn't work. I
1058
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:32.880
don't know.
1059
00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:36.559
Also, the trauma that all these people were going through bodily,
1060
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:38.800
like the way that everybody just pops back up and
1061
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:41.159
they're fine. I know that all movies do this, but
1062
00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:43.880
can we put some more bruising on everybody's faces a
1063
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:47.079
little so like everybody really had the shit kicked out
1064
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:49.519
of them, out of them and then they are just
1065
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:51.519
popping up like you're fine. And I get the whole
1066
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:52.400
adrenaline thing.
1067
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.679
But also I just want to shout out stunt team
1068
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:57.280
on this because there's that shot from overhead where they're
1069
00:48:57.280 --> 00:48:59.599
fighting each other and you're the camera sort of moving
1070
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:01.280
over the ts of their heads and everything. So it's
1071
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:03.280
obviously this not DCE because you're not seeing the faces
1072
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:06.719
of the actors, and like the harshness of that. I
1073
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:09.000
remember my first viewing, I was like, oh, did they
1074
00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:14.519
get hurt? I was like, oh no. So one thing
1075
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:16.079
I wanted to bring up just because I don't want
1076
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:18.239
to forget it, and that think is the for me,
1077
00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:20.320
it's the key to this film, and which is what
1078
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:21.719
I was thinking of when I first saw it.
1079
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:23.880
And I know it sounds a little.
1080
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:28.840
Water is wet e because a Sebsteri Vanischek is French
1081
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:31.400
and he's a French filmmaker, But the frenchness of this
1082
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:33.440
movie really did come through in a big way to me,
1083
00:49:33.599 --> 00:49:36.440
to the point where it did remind me aesthetically not
1084
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:40.079
you know, I'm not saying it's I'm going to it's
1085
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:43.039
the new French extremity. Yeah, it's high tension, It's Martyrs.
1086
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:46.519
It's yeah, no, oh my god, do not even compare
1087
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:47.320
to either of this.
1088
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:50.039
And I'm not comparing it in terms of quality. I'm
1089
00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:51.440
comparing it in terms of tone.
1090
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:54.119
And I think that I see that in the way
1091
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:56.320
that people are reacting to it, and I also know
1092
00:49:56.440 --> 00:49:58.440
that from my own experience. So when I first saw Martyrs,
1093
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:01.079
and I've told you this multiple times, I hate and
1094
00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:04.679
I haven't gone back watching this one because of the
1095
00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:05.719
reasons I've already stated.
1096
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:08.159
But I understand. But no, don't sit here and be like, oh,
1097
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:10.239
I hated Martyrs but then I'm going to compare it
1098
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:12.159
to this one because it's like the same thing.
1099
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:15.079
It's gary, So I get to do that because it's
1100
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:17.519
a tone, it's it's an aesthetic. It's not the same
1101
00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:19.360
thing as saying this movie is exactly the same as
1102
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:19.679
this movie.
1103
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:21.360
Wasn't it filmed in New Zealand or something?
1104
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:23.920
Yeah, well that's where I guess Rob Tappert's whole family is,
1105
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:26.199
with Lucy Lawless and all them, and they have like
1106
00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:28.519
a whole infrastructure down there that they've had for years
1107
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:32.280
and years since I think they started the Xena and
1108
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:35.320
even before that the Hercules and you know Young Hercules,
1109
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:35.679
all them.
1110
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:38.079
Oh, Young Hercules was many years later, Yeah, with.
1111
00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:41.280
Ryan got with Ryan. Yeah, but no, they've they started
1112
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:43.000
that in the nineties, I guess, right, So.
1113
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:46.039
Yeah, Xena came out, then Hercules was first. It was
1114
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:47.599
three years after Big Fan.
1115
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:48.239
Yeah.
1116
00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:51.159
Yeah, so you know, they've they've got their hooks New
1117
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:53.239
Zealand's for the rest of their lives pretty much, so
1118
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:56.039
as long as they have ability to shoot there and
1119
00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:56.800
keep costs low.
1120
00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:58.840
Then and again the Gore and this and that, I'm
1121
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:01.119
not complaining about that, complaining about the way that they
1122
00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:04.480
used it like, for example, that the dad waiting for
1123
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:09.199
the like the mom, okay, so Taya takes out Grandma's teeth,
1124
00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:10.960
puts it in her mouth, puts it back in grandma,
1125
00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:13.320
so we know Grandma's going to be possessed. The mom
1126
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:17.880
knows about what's going on. And and I'm not this.
1127
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:20.880
The actors all di great. I thought the performances were wonderful,
1128
00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:23.360
but so the mom pops up like fucking Jason, not
1129
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:25.679
Jason fo He's like Michael Myers with the ghost thing.
1130
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:28.280
And it's like, oh, you really, after everything that we've
1131
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:31.039
gone through, think that that's your mom. She doesn't have
1132
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:33.440
dementia anymore. As you're saying your name, your husband's knocking
1133
00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:36.760
on the window like Salem's Lot. You watched him blow
1134
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:39.480
his face off three times. You have a living son
1135
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:41.119
and you could get out of here, but you care
1136
00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:43.880
more about your dead son, and then you let him
1137
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:46.119
in and you have this disgusting makeout scene that I
1138
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:47.039
was just like, Ah.
1139
00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:49.400
That to me is the same thing as Annie seeing
1140
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:52.599
her mother in the cellar, where the mother was literally
1141
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:53.920
just banging on the cellar door.
1142
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:56.000
Going gad bye DoD, Goad, bye DoD. And now she's
1143
00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:57.000
suddenly herself again.
1144
00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:00.360
You were bored on December sixteeth or whatever, she says,
1145
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:02.159
and Eddie's like, mom, and.
1146
00:52:03.079 --> 00:52:05.320
Looked like herself, and she wasn't under a sheet.
1147
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:10.400
Well, but yes, I think that's all hard your mother.
1148
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:13.119
I was like, the I liked it. It was a
1149
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:13.719
pretty creepy.
1150
00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:15.719
So where did they get that weird?
1151
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:16.480
Uh?
1152
00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:18.880
That the lawnmower thing.
1153
00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:21.920
I don't have a lot it a weed wacker or uh.
1154
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:24.440
Yeah, okay, I have a weed wacker now. I remember
1155
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:27.480
looked like that that medieval torture chamber. I was like, okay,
1156
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:29.679
I can't wait to see her use this. And even
1157
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:32.519
again she you know, the mom is already obviously kind
1158
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:35.559
of turning. She brings her in. She's like, you should
1159
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:37.840
be thanking me for saving your life, but leave her
1160
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:40.039
out there. I don't understand why you're saving her. She
1161
00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:43.599
just tried to let Grandma Polly kill you. She she
1162
00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:46.639
clicked the button to put that thing through your face.
1163
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:47.039
Yeah.
1164
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:50.679
Also, my favorite gore gag is that is again it's
1165
00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:52.559
the simplest stuff where it's the pet in the air
1166
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:54.559
for me where that was good.
1167
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:58.039
But also I don't understand why she needed tweezers to pull.
1168
00:52:57.920 --> 00:52:59.519
That out, because she tried to pull it out and
1169
00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:01.000
I guess like cracked.
1170
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:03.559
Just like go in and grab the other part. It
1171
00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:04.480
was still sticking out.
1172
00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:04.800
Your head, right.
1173
00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:06.239
I think it was because it was leaking the ink
1174
00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:07.960
that she wanted to make sure she wasn't pushing it
1175
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:09.000
further in or something.
1176
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:09.360
You know.
1177
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:12.239
Yeah, but that was gross. But also like you're pretty
1178
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:14.320
deaf now, you're pretty deaf.
1179
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.519
You're pretty deaf now, yeah, yeah, no, And that's the
1180
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:21.559
thing is, yeah, just the the brutality towards all the
1181
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:23.119
bodies in this movie is extreme.
1182
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:25.639
Yeah. Well that's where like the Deadite rules, Like, there's
1183
00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:27.599
not a lot of rules. But that's what I always
1184
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:29.880
liked about the dead Heites is that they never seem
1185
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.480
like they could die no matter what you did to them.
1186
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:35.320
And that's where I became confused because again I'm not
1187
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:38.719
that it's trying to, but the movie never establishes consistent rules.
1188
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:41.400
Sometimes the dead Ightes know everything, which would mean that
1189
00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:44.480
they would know to go look upstairs for the knife.
1190
00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:48.079
Sometimes they don't. Sometimes they're incredibly intelligent. Sometimes they're basically
1191
00:53:48.159 --> 00:53:51.039
zombies if they're possessing family members, Like why don't you
1192
00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:53.599
go just go search the attic yourself. They already know
1193
00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:57.320
Benjamin's researches up there, and instead they spend hours terrorizing
1194
00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:00.719
everybody while somehow never checking the obviously, and the only
1195
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:03.760
thing that they're after is this knife instead of swallow
1196
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:05.679
a saul, which would have made if they were saying
1197
00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:08.000
not more often, it would the mythology that they were
1198
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.559
trying to build here feels messy because it felt like
1199
00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:12.719
they were try like being like, no, no, no, these
1200
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:14.880
are the new rules, where the other movies didn't have
1201
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:16.679
the rules. So it's like, just don't do it at all.
1202
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:19.719
We don't need any rules or expect like explanations for this.
1203
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:21.760
And I'd say, yeah, I think the rules are the same.
1204
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:23.639
They are more pronounced in this in the way that
1205
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:25.480
they are experimenting with things that you say.
1206
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:26.599
But I do think that.
1207
00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:30.360
The same consistency is the inconsistency. It's the you know,
1208
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:33.159
anything could happen. You know the rules are broken, and
1209
00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:36.719
you know it's more about meanness and torture than anything
1210
00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:38.679
else in terms of the evil part of people dead.
1211
00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:41.920
And so yeah, and I really did appreciate how in
1212
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:44.280
this one it felt like the dead Dights had on
1213
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:46.519
par or on the whole, rather as what I want
1214
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:51.199
to say, a little bit more individual personalities than the
1215
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:53.320
Swallow your soul, the you know, once you're taking over,
1216
00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:55.039
you're kind of the same type of dead nite sort
1217
00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:57.559
of thing, which the earlier films tended to do sometimes,
1218
00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:02.159
whereas even Able to Rise, you know, once Maggot Mommy
1219
00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:04.360
is Maggot Mommy, it sort of feels like she's the
1220
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:08.639
demon version of that character. While with Thea, who I
1221
00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:11.159
think is maybe this movie's most successful deadite, you know,
1222
00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:13.639
I really felt like she was still kind of a
1223
00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:16.840
person but evil, you know sort of thing, which.
1224
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:19.760
Is my favorite day serving is Max Max.
1225
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:24.280
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1226
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:27.400
Ironically, I thought that the domestic abuse story was probably
1227
00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:29.960
the most interesting part of the movie because Alice, it
1228
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:33.519
seemed like she didn't remember that she was abused by Will,
1229
00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:35.440
but then she started kind of putting it together. She
1230
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:38.239
had the scar and she's like, no, that wasn't an accident,
1231
00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:41.360
that's abuse. And we also learned that Susan knows about
1232
00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:45.320
it because Agger himself seems abusive. So there's this generational
1233
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:48.800
cycle of abuse happening inside the family, which honestly, I
1234
00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:52.199
do kind of wish the movie leaned harder into that. Instead,
1235
00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:55.119
it feels like it's struggling three different stories, the Dead Heights,
1236
00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:58.960
the research, and Alice's escaping abuse. Each one is interesting,
1237
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:01.599
though together they know fully come together for me.
1238
00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:03.000
Yeah, and they did for me.
1239
00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:07.000
And I think this it's throughout the the the threading
1240
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:09.880
of these characters and their backstories and their interpersonal relationships.
1241
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:14.119
And I never took Ellis's remembering or you know, having
1242
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:17.079
a forgotten her abuse. I think it's more just the
1243
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:23.599
encroaching what's the word, I want, cognitive dissonance of this
1244
00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:26.800
family acting like it never happened, or acting like this
1245
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:28.639
person was such a saint, you know, having to sit
1246
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:31.000
through these people talking at his eulog about oh, he
1247
00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:32.760
was the best move man to ever live, and he
1248
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:34.800
was so sweet to everybody he ever came across. And
1249
00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:37.480
you know, we always love Dallas when that's not true,
1250
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:39.599
you know, that sort of thing. And yeah, just having
1251
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:41.719
to sort of it really did capture that feeling for
1252
00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:44.760
me of having to deal with a family, whether it's
1253
00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:46.480
your own family or you know, a family that you're
1254
00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:50.199
you're brought into where their version of events is diametrically
1255
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:52.119
opposed to your version of events, you know, and that
1256
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:55.199
idea of hey, you know, you may think that was
1257
00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:58.199
a cool, cute, funny thing that you did, whereas for me,
1258
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:00.679
it was traumatic and awful and I'm I've forgotten it
1259
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:03.079
sort of thing, you know. And I think that the
1260
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:05.760
build up to that moment of you know, her snapping
1261
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:07.880
at her in the bathroom before she goes full dead
1262
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:11.320
height really did resonate with me. And then of course
1263
00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:14.360
her final confrontation with Will, which is you know, done
1264
00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:17.119
on this sort of grandiose, you know, metal album cover
1265
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:19.519
scale of you know, the red sky and you know,
1266
00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:21.800
the construction site and all that sort of thing, and
1267
00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:23.320
he's burning skeleton and all that.
1268
00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:26.079
Oh okay, so let's get to the ending. So this
1269
00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:28.719
is where I completely checked out. Alice finally gets the dagger,
1270
00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:32.280
she drops it or she immediately loses it multiple times,
1271
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:35.800
and instead of using that to defeat the existing dead
1272
00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:37.960
heights that are left, which is only like two or three,
1273
00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:41.599
Will suddenly reappears after being absent for the whole movie,
1274
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:46.480
and his design was iffy, But this motherfucker didn't stop
1275
00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:49.440
talking blah blah blah since he showed up. It was
1276
00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:51.920
just talk talk talk talk talk, talk, talk talk. It
1277
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:54.639
was ridiculous. And then the final fight is that the
1278
00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:58.840
construction site at the cremation place, which I guess the
1279
00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:00.840
only reason they use that because it was down the
1280
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:01.920
street from the house.
1281
00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:02.840
I don't know.
1282
00:58:03.000 --> 00:58:06.559
They don't explain it. There's none of that, and instead
1283
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:08.880
it just felt like it just kept going. You know,
1284
00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:11.400
we see her see a chainsaw. Oh, I'm gonna use
1285
00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:13.760
the chainshaw. No she doesn't. She uses the jackhammer. I
1286
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:15.920
was fine with that. I thought that was cool, but
1287
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:19.519
like again, her being pushed down to this thing. Another
1288
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:22.400
thing goes through her ankle. Gore, gore, gore, just for
1289
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:24.400
the fun of gore. But of course the gore, like
1290
00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:27.360
it doesn't matter, it doesn't capacitate her, it doesn't stop her.
1291
00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:29.239
She pulls her thing out. It was just to be gross.
1292
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:32.360
The jackhammer kill is cool, but everything leading up to
1293
00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:35.199
it just kind of isn't. I don't know, it was
1294
00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:37.280
just doing too much. I would have liked to have
1295
00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:43.199
more in the story, like in other parts. I don't know,
1296
00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:45.880
we just didn't learn enough about what was going on.
1297
00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:49.400
And I saw it as yeah, this extension of her,
1298
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:52.519
you know, awful traumatic experience with this guy and the
1299
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:56.000
push pull of his hold over her and the fact that,
1300
00:58:56.800 --> 00:59:00.000
you know, the irony of like the most major physical
1301
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:01.760
injury that you can see on her body is from
1302
00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:03.760
a bad burn that he gave her. And so therefore
1303
00:59:03.800 --> 00:59:06.199
he's this burning you know entity that like is all
1304
00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:10.119
about fire, and the idea is, yeah, and everything's burning,
1305
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:12.280
and like it feels, it looks and feels like we're
1306
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:15.880
literally in hell. The song is playing on the walkie talkie,
1307
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:17.639
you know, this sort of torture.
1308
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:19.280
Of I'm obsessed with French.
1309
00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:21.760
Possessed with French stuff, and like how insulting that is
1310
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:24.320
for like a woman from France versus an American who's
1311
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:26.280
a tourist, you know, and all that sort of thing.
1312
00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:30.639
And so yeah, I like the it felt to me
1313
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:34.639
a culmination of her reclamation of her agency in a
1314
00:59:34.679 --> 00:59:37.559
way that some people have been comparing this movie to Oh,
1315
00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:40.280
it's just another Ready or Not, And I take issue
1316
00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:42.000
with that. I'm like, yeah, I can see the similarities
1317
00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:45.199
for sure, but like Ready or Not is more about
1318
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:48.760
you know, having to deal with shitty boyfriend and shitty fiance,
1319
00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:51.599
not quite an abusive yet, but more just like this
1320
00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:53.719
family of in laws who are just the worst people ever,
1321
00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:56.960
and the rich and especially the class divide, you know,
1322
00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:00.480
whereas this is very much about the insidious hind closed
1323
01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:03.119
doors abuse that you know can take place in a
1324
01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:07.360
domestic situation that people either deny or you know, claimed
1325
01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:10.320
isn't happening. And this idea that like, yeah, she really
1326
01:00:10.320 --> 01:00:12.800
has to kill the rest of this family in order
1327
01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:15.800
to quell those demons, a family who.
1328
01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:17.440
Knew all about the demons and could have stopped it
1329
01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:18.440
at any time themselves.
1330
01:00:18.599 --> 01:00:20.920
Yeah, and the mom was all denying. She was like,
1331
01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:24.360
my father was terrible. He left his family. When it
1332
01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:26.239
turns out he left his family to like try and
1333
01:00:26.239 --> 01:00:28.039
protect them from the dead heights, which didn't work.
1334
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:32.000
But you know, yeah, so it's just this awful, awful.
1335
01:00:31.719 --> 01:00:36.280
Family that as generations of mistakes and abuse and violence,
1336
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:38.280
and they were always kind of headed this way.
1337
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:44.679
Yeah, poor dog. Anyway, So post credits there was two
1338
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:46.760
which I was like, can we please stop with this.
1339
01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:49.800
You need to let me know when you see them
1340
01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:51.119
before because I almost left.
1341
01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:53.199
Oh, I was walking out.
1342
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:55.280
He talked about that. No, you have to tell me,
1343
01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:57.519
so I say the second the credits pop up, My fuck,
1344
01:00:57.599 --> 01:01:01.599
right off. Okay, so the first one, like, so the
1345
01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:05.239
Grandma thing again, I was annoyed by Grandma being so
1346
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:08.239
like I'm gonna get you and then just being slowly
1347
01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:10.760
pulled down by this chair. And then she starts cutting
1348
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:13.119
her leg off with a piece of knife, which wouldn't work.
1349
01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:16.119
That's not a knife, a piece of glass. You're not
1350
01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:18.800
cutting through your leg with a piece of glass. I'm sorry.
1351
01:01:18.920 --> 01:01:21.400
Grandma is still stuck there, but no, Polly gets out,
1352
01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:25.760
you know, Ryan on the street, and then she what
1353
01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:29.960
some guy comes up on a movie. She scratches her,
1354
01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:32.920
so that I had infection to another victim. Here we
1355
01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:38.199
go again. Now it's it's still going. And then like,
1356
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:40.480
well with Alice, do you think like, oh wow, somebody
1357
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:41.800
else survived kind of the way that.
1358
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:51.559
And then did And then.
1359
01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:54.199
You're like, yeah, maybe you survived, but no, we don't know.
1360
01:01:54.320 --> 01:01:56.920
We cut to the movie went to the think it's
1361
01:01:56.920 --> 01:02:00.199
a happy ending. So then we cut to the second one,
1362
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:02.360
which I just saw is like fan service, And we
1363
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:06.480
returned to the crematorium where Ellie from Evil Dead, Rise
1364
01:02:06.519 --> 01:02:10.159
of Yours is for one final scene, and yeah, the
1365
01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:16.559
crematorium manager's daughter discovers her unclaimed Ashes right, and then uh, yeah,
1366
01:02:16.599 --> 01:02:17.960
she's just like I'm.
1367
01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:21.960
Back pretty much. Yeah, And again, I don't know what
1368
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:26.199
their plans are with this. I I feel it's funny.
1369
01:02:26.199 --> 01:02:27.960
It reminded me, I know a lot of people saying, oh,
1370
01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:30.760
what a Marvel coded thing. I kind of felt it
1371
01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:32.960
was maybe even more conjuring, you know where. It's like
1372
01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:36.239
they would do things like with Annabelle, or with the
1373
01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:40.119
Crooked Man or the Nun, you know where it's like, oh,
1374
01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:42.840
there's another you know, monster still out there, you know,
1375
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:45.360
for our heroes to fight. But then again, we're not
1376
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:47.480
quite sure yet who our heroes will be. We don't
1377
01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:49.440
We haven't seen any of them return yet. We haven't
1378
01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:54.280
seen Me or Beth or obviously Ash come back. Will Alice?
1379
01:02:54.519 --> 01:02:58.159
I don't know. Because Wrath has already been said to
1380
01:02:58.159 --> 01:03:00.920
be a prequel to kind of everything, because is apparently
1381
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:03.199
taking place in nineteen seventy two backwards.
1382
01:03:03.519 --> 01:03:04.840
Oh my god, Oh so that it is.
1383
01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:07.079
Going to be about the Yeah, yeah, my god.
1384
01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:09.159
Okay, so I thought, okay, right.
1385
01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:11.960
So as of now, there's nothing on the slate in
1386
01:03:12.039 --> 01:03:16.320
terms of Evil Dead Ellie, Ormy Meggett, Mommy the Solo
1387
01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:19.280
movie or something. So there's nothing on that level yet,
1388
01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:21.360
so I don't know if they're planning on just having
1389
01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:25.119
her be around in the next one that's said in
1390
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:27.960
present day, or if they're trying to build like a
1391
01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:30.400
team of Dead Ights to battle a team of heroes,
1392
01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:31.280
or I feel.
1393
01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:33.679
Like this almost contradicted what you did in the movie,
1394
01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:38.320
because this could. It's the fun little connection from Burned
1395
01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:40.320
to Rise, and it reminds us that in this universe, the
1396
01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:42.840
Dead Dights are never really gone, whether it's meant as
1397
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:46.320
a literal continuation or supernatural like epilogue is kind of
1398
01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:50.280
left ambiguous. But then what happened to DAYA. How come
1399
01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:52.079
some of them died and some didn't If they're never
1400
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:54.760
really gone. It's just like what I love about the
1401
01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:57.280
Dead Heights is they always in some way pop back
1402
01:03:57.360 --> 01:03:59.679
up and you cannot really stop them unless you have
1403
01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:00.760
the or whatever.
1404
01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:03.360
Yeah, and who's to say, I mean money talks, right,
1405
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:05.000
So it's like I could see them bringing back Theah
1406
01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:08.119
with the same loose set of rules where it's like, yep,
1407
01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:10.559
people liked her, so she's come back, you know sort
1408
01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:14.519
of thing. Yeah, it could happen, but yeah, I don't know,
1409
01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:16.920
it's not clear at this point what exactly it is
1410
01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:19.480
they're building what they're hinting at, because this isn't like
1411
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:21.519
a comic book story where it's like, oh, they're going
1412
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:24.079
to adapt this storyline from the comics. There are no
1413
01:04:24.159 --> 01:04:27.119
you know, there are comics, but there's no storyline for
1414
01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:29.519
them to really say, oh, we're picking that one to sort.
1415
01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:31.519
Of going back to the seventies. It makes me think
1416
01:04:31.559 --> 01:04:34.599
that they're going to do like this this the mom
1417
01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:35.519
kept calling it a cult.
1418
01:04:35.719 --> 01:04:37.400
Oh yeah, the Circle of the Wise Men thing.
1419
01:04:37.599 --> 01:04:41.159
Yeah, but it's like, why are we going backwards? I'm
1420
01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:43.760
sure it's like, is this where the story ends?
1421
01:04:44.039 --> 01:04:47.079
I don't think that's intention. But then again, don't forget,
1422
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:49.360
like time travel is a part of this universe, so
1423
01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:52.280
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what could happen
1424
01:04:52.280 --> 01:04:57.440
there too. There's possibility. There's possibility. And I know that
1425
01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:00.400
Bruce made an April Fool's Stay Joe a couple of
1426
01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:03.480
years ago, I think just after Rise, where he claimed
1427
01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:05.320
that they were going to do a crossover movie where
1428
01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:07.360
he and Mia and Beeth were going to all team
1429
01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:09.960
up or something, and you know, at the time it
1430
01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:10.719
seemed like a joke.
1431
01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:13.480
And now it's like, well, there isn't a joke. I
1432
01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:13.840
don't know.
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I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I guess. My
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final thoughts are like, I really wanted to like this
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a lot more than I did. The visuals were great,
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the gore was fantastic. Alice is a strong lead. I
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liked her as a final girl, but those strengths couldn't
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overcome the frustrating character decisions, inconsistent mythology, and an ending
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that never really delivered on anything. The movie spent two
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hours trying to set up. I just didn't It wasn't
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for me.
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Okay, And I'm pretty much the opposite I after seeing
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it twice, I really know.
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Is that just because you interviewed them and have to
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say it?
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No, I do not have to say that.
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Uh huh.
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I didn't like The Yetti and I did the interviews
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for those, did I? I don't know.
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I didn't know about that, yeah, YEI.
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The Yetti was a low budget movie that came out
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earlier this year about a YETI haha, And it takes
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place in the forties or the thirties, I think the forties.
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Where did you talk about that?
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On another website called that Hollywood Show. I did interviews
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for them, for the director and one of the stars,
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and similar you know gripes as you vocalized here, where
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there was a weird pathology to it, a very weird tone,
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and ultimately it just felt like it did a lot
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of interesting, you know, sort of practical effects. And eventually,
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when the yetti shows up in the late in the
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third act, it's fun for a minute, but like there's
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so much interpersonal stuff that the film just really awkwardly
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tries to deliver. And I don't know why I'm talking
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about the yetti, but I'm just trying to prove to
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you that, yes, there's been many there's been several instances
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where I've done interviews for something that I did not
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appreciate as much because I can say honestly that seeing
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01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:47.320
it for the first time, seeing this evil dead burned
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for the first time, I was on board really really quickly.
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And so that was before I even did the interviews.
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And yeah, I really do think.
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This ken was like I'm out for the next one.
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01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:00.079
I hated it and we spent all night talking about it.
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Okay, okay, Well, and again, as I said earlier, like
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this is not unusual with this one, because it does
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seem to be really across the board. For some people,
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you know, it's firmly in the in the pro camp,
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and for some it's firmly in the anti camp. And
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at the end of the day, I think it does
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indicate that there is a range to this franchise and
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that there is a versatility. It's not the same thing
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01:07:23.239 --> 01:07:25.320
Cookie Cutter over and over, you know. So it's like
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if if Ken wants to take the next one out, understandable,
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but at the same time, it could be completely different,
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you know, so we'll see.
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01:07:33.320 --> 01:07:34.800
I mean, I feel like the last one in this
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01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:36.000
one felt very similar.
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They did.
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They did so a story for the last I am
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01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:41.119
hoping that, Yeah, I do honestly hope that. Yes, as
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much as they've committed to the sort of a tone for.
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01:07:43.559 --> 01:07:45.800
Now, another group of dumb, dumb white people just running
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01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:47.360
around making all the wrong decisions.
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01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:50.239
It is what this that's kind of what this franchise is.
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01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:52.840
And ultimately, I mean, that's you know, a feeling, if
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you want to say that of the origins, which is
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01:07:55.760 --> 01:07:59.000
that when they made the original film back in eighty one,
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01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:02.159
you know, they were trying to emulate what was popular
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at the time, and and do it in a way
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01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:07.440
that was very bare bones.
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01:08:07.519 --> 01:08:10.320
You know. They weren't exactly giving a lot of mythology
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01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:10.960
on that one, you.
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01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:14.119
Know, but that's what made it work. Here's all the books,
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01:08:14.159 --> 01:08:16.760
here's the thing. The knife is literally upstairs. We're going
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01:08:16.840 --> 01:08:18.640
to talk about it the whole time. No one's going
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01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:21.279
to go look for it. Watch Grandma, Watch Mom. I'm
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01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:22.960
gonna go upstairs and see if I can find the
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01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:26.039
one thing that can stop all of this. Nah, let's
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01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:28.199
just stay down here and get pushed onto the dishwasher.
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01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:34.319
Well recommendations, Uh, you already heard mine. I'm just going
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to say high tension.
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01:08:35.399 --> 01:08:39.279
Oh God, I cannot I cannot breathe. These two movies
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01:08:39.319 --> 01:08:41.960
and the same thing. Didn't you already recommend that before.
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Did I?
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01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:46.319
I don't know, yes, let us know. Yeah, I'm going
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01:08:46.359 --> 01:08:48.720
with twenty twenties The Dark and the Wicked, which was
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01:08:48.760 --> 01:08:51.000
also I felt mad about, but.
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01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:53.399
Was written by I also felt mad about that one.
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01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:56.239
Ryan Bill felt like this one. Brian Bernito The Darkina
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01:08:56.279 --> 01:09:00.520
I Did Whatever. The relentless horror film following sibl Louise
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01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:03.439
and Michael as they returned to their isolated Texas family farm.
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01:09:03.479 --> 01:09:06.600
They soon realize that I'm eleven insidious entity is slowly
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01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:09.760
destroying their sanity and tearing their family apart. And there
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01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:12.439
is a crazy you know incommon mom and the dad's
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01:09:12.439 --> 01:09:16.319
already been killed. So it's a see for me that movie.
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01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:18.319
But it felt like, if I'm going to recommend something
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01:09:18.359 --> 01:09:20.560
to go along with this, that's the only thing I
1529
01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:21.319
could really think of.
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01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:22.680
I think it works. I get it.
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01:09:22.760 --> 01:09:26.039
Yeah, all right. So we we have a new pull
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01:09:26.159 --> 01:09:29.159
up on Patreon for what our next movie on that
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01:09:29.239 --> 01:09:31.439
will be. And we are creeping up to our one
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01:09:31.479 --> 01:09:34.520
hundredth episode, so expect something really fun for that. We
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01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:37.279
don't haven't quite figured it out yet, but it is coming.
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01:09:38.039 --> 01:09:39.399
It's coming, you know, whether we like it or not,
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01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:39.800
it's coming.
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01:09:39.840 --> 01:09:40.720
Yeah, we like it or not?
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01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:47.560
All right, Thank you all for joining us for this
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episode of Bill and Ashley's part of the Stranded Pin Network.
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01:09:59.880 --> 01:10:02.680
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