# Jillian Johnsrud

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561 | Mini-Retirements: Test Driving Financial Independence

Most people plan for retirement like it's an on-off switch—decades of grinding followed by one big leap into the unknown. But what if you've never practiced living without work? Jillian Johnsrud, author of Retire Often, challenges this all-or-nothing approach by introducing a framework that's gaini…

485 | Mailbag: Spending Down to Zero, High-Fee 401(k), and Mini-Retirements

Most financial planners will tell you to save more, but what if you're actually saving too much for retirement? Brad Barrett and CFP Rachael Camp tackle listener questions about whether to spend down retirement accounts, navigating high-fee 401(k)s, and the financial math behind mini-retirements—al…

Mini-Retirements to Accelerate Your Path to FI | Jillian Johnsrud

Most people think you need to wait until retirement to finally live the life you want. Jillian Johnsrud proved otherwise by spending eight months traveling with her husband, five kids, and multiple pets in a 26-foot camper—and she did it while building a career. Jillian shares the framework her fam…

Money and Relationships Part 1: Navigating Money Conversations

Your spouse says they're "fine" with money, but you're drowning in spreadsheets while they max out credit cards. That tension? It's not about the numbers. Jillian Johnsrud, a couples' financial communication expert, reveals why money talk fails — and how to fix it before resentment takes over. She …

333 | How to Plan Your First Mini-Retirement

Most people dream of retirement as a single distant finish line. What if you could cross it multiple times—starting now? Brad and Jonathan explore how mini retirements reframe the entire concept of taking time off. Instead of deferring adventure and personal growth until age 65 (or 85, in the Suze …

301 | Money and Relationships Part 2: Communication and Compromise

Your partner says you can't afford to retire early—but they're still spending $200 on brunch every weekend. Jonathan Mendonsa and Brad Barrett continue their relationships and money series with Jillian Johnsrud, tackling the financial conflicts that strain even the strongest partnerships. Through l…

Montana Money Adventures and Life Simplification

At age 32, Jillian Johnsrud had $55,000 in debt, earned under $50,000 a year, and was about to adopt three children into her already chaotic household. Instead of collapsing under the weight, she built a life that included paying off all debt, traveling to 27 countries, and achieving financial inde…

Why “I Can’t Afford It” Keeps You Stuck Dreaming About Solo Travel

Someone says a trip is too expensive, and someone else hears "I don't have the money," when what she actually meant was "I would never spend that much on a holiday." I used to say I couldn't afford things by default, and it took me years, and a $500 star sapphire in India, to realise that I didn't …

Mini-Retirements Are the New Early Retirement – with Mom of Six, Jillian Johnsrud

#600: Jillian Johnsrud was falling apart. After suffering a miscarriage, she couldn't pull herself together to return to her job as a youth pastor in DC. She decided to take a month off. That unexpected break became Jillian's first "mini-retirement" — a deliberate step away from work for at least …

Pain, Grief, and the Pursuit of Financial Independence, with Jillian Johnsrud

#246: At 19 years old, after completing her first year of college, Jillian married her husband.  During their first year of marriage, they lived in a camper and earned a combined salary of $12,000. One year later, Jillian's husband graduated college and joined the military. They relocated to Washin…