Happy Holidays

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Through me. Oh, I'm gonna name you Codo. You get
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a name to Bodo. His name is Happy Harry Hardey.
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It was total sex man. Of course, welcome everybody to
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a bonus episode of The Unkind Rewind. Been what like
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a month and a half since Sean and I last spoke,
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Well technically we recorded last night, but.
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Been a month and a half since the last one.
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Yeah, wow, Yeah, it was Halloween, right, I don't know
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it's it's I think it was Halloween.
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This here is just fog and.
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Yeah, I'm Josh Dugan. This is Shawn McGrath. Yeah, Sean,
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how things.
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Yeah, let's just talk more about the fog of war
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and the the asthma of the of a polluted river Thames. Yeah,
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let's see. Okay, probably as I didn't talk about if
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it was October. I'm in kind of the throes of
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screenings for SAG and although I'm not on the nominating committee,
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more's the pity, I still am seeing quite a lot
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and I think, I mean, I'm going back to see
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movies multiple times now too, which is somewhat new for me.
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It's not just because of a memory issue, although you know,
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senility does creep in it is just to kind of see.
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I'm never going to see something terrible twice, right, But
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sometimes I want to go back and confirm my suspicions
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about the quality of a movie. Look for things, and yeah,
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I've been really happy going back and seeing things twice.
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Now I've seen one Betal after another, Sentimental Value and
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Train Dreams all twice, and those all in the theater.
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Yeah, I've seen two of the three of those. I've
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seen one of them twice. Yeah, one of them twice
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in the theater.
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So some Little Value is the one that you still
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need to.
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See that I still need to see that. I do
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very much want to see. To my knowledge, it's not
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playing here yet.
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Okay, I'll get on that.
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Yeah yeah, Sean. What can you make that play here? Sean?
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Yeah, yeah, I could, I could. I could talk to
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is it Yoakum or yakum know?
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I assumed it was Yokim, but I don't know. I'm
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not sure.
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Okay, Well, if he's listening, he should he should chime in.
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By the way, listeners, Sorry, sorry to interrupt, but it
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sounds now that someone is doing handy person work, handingman
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work in the apartment downstairs. So apologies for that. We
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had to delay recording because Sean's next door neighbor was
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getting a new bathtub put in, and now it's downstairs.
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I'm hearing a drill after having heard hammering right up
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until the point at which we started recording, and then
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it stopped, and I thought maybe we'd be okay.
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But well, to add insult to injury, Josh, I just
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realized my headphones were unt plugged. So fun, there's that. Yeah,
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welcome listeners.
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Yes, whatever, not, Everything's going to be perfect now.
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This is also a week where I see Wicked, Marty
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Supreme and one other one, The Secret Agent, which is
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Brazil's submission for International Picture. Is it International picture or
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Foreign Language Film? What's going on here?
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I think it's international?
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Now they changed it, right, I think?
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Yeah?
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So could a British movie win Best International?
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No?
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Okay, all right, it's going to be a tight race
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for Foreign Language Film this year. Yeah, I'll tell you
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that right now.
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So obviously, Sentiment of Values is supposed to be great.
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Chadwick Park or Park Chan Wook's favorite, or a new
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film is supposed to be fantastic. I know there's one
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I'm missing, Another heavy hitter, there's that.
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It was just an accident. The Iranian French with Joseph Paneer.
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I can't I can't quite remember his name. He's the
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guy that like has to smuggle his movies out of Iran, right,
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and then I think there's one from Spain called si
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r At and there's some varying accents over those vowels,
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so surat siratt. I don't know anyway, good stuff, good movies.
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It's it's that time of year. But also it's you know,
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the holidays in New York, which I'm not ecstatic about it.
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It's a huge influx of tourism.
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Are you getting out? Are you leaving at some point?
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Yeah, I'm getting down to Atlanta to escape all this,
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but I still have another week or so to try
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to do everything before I head out. And yeah, I mean,
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I'm not a big crowd guy. I would say I'm
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a big anti crowd guy. Sure makes a lot of
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sense that I live in New York City, But yeah, whatever,
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I mean, this is this is kind of our our
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holiday episode.
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Right, Josh, Yeah, I guess it is. Sorry I'm holding
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for anticipated noise.
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I don't hear the noise that you're talking about.
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Yeah, but the mic will hear it because it's like
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it's basically it's into the wall that's directly below this,
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the wall that I'm right next to.
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And these are these are not your normal demons though, right.
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No, no, this is seriously. I never hear a peep. Yeah.
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And then the instant that I have to roll roll
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sound during the day, Oh cool. Yeah.
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And the irony is that I was I felt like
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I was being jack hammered myself as my neighbors were
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pulling out their bathtub.
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Have you seen anything of the big recent releases that
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you didn't like?
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Ah, if you asked me that in two days, I
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might talk to you a little bit about Wicked for good.
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Yeah.
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I hated Ella McKay.
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I saw that.
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Yeah, this is the James L. Brooks, you know. And
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this is always a bad sign when they read your
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resume or they put from the director of and everything
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is thirty twenty yeah, yeah, sometimes forty from the director
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of terms of endearments.
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And as good as it gets and as good.
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As it gets, and broadcast news comes and Spain, sure
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I can't forget to English comes a movie that feels
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thirty maybe forty years too late in a lot of respects.
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I can't quite tell you what the point of that
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movie was. They said it in two thousand and eight,
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and I think that that's their way of trying to
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impress upon you when politics were still idealistic.
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And probably to get around smartphones.
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Yeah, I mean there are some phones in it, but yeah,
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I don't know how smart they are.
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Flip phones. Probably flip phones.
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Yeah, Zach Morris say, by the Bell specials, it was
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a nothing burger. I think I said. It's everyone's mom's
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favorite movie.
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Okay of the year. Did you see Frankenstein?
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I did see Frankenstein. Yeah?
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Did you like it? Or no?
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I liked enough things about it? Okay, did you not
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like it?
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No? Did you It's the most I've not liked a
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GDT movie.
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Interesting?
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Okay, I thought it looked fucking terrible. Okay when they
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go up into the tower. Did they just like put
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a different put like slightly different skin on the set
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from fucking Wicked?
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Sure?
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All of the CGI is god awful. The wolves were
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comically bad.
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Wolves are almost I don't know if anybody's ever done
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wolves well except for maybe The Gray Terrible.
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But like I just I thought it was da. I
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thought it didn't work. I thought it was very boring.
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I really disliked the Jacob A Lordie like vocal fact
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that they were doing where they were like doubling and dropping,
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so it sounded like there he had like two voices
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kind of I disliked so much about it. I thought
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it was bad.
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When we talked on a previous episode about robin Hood,
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we talked about our robin Hood kind of tier list.
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Where would you put the GDT Frankenstein in sort of
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your what you've seen of Frankenstein movies? Where would you
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put it? I mean, we're talking nineteen thirty one, We're talking.
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Thirty one is number one.
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Robert de Niro.
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I never saw the de Niro one. I don't think
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or I don't remember. I don't remember it. I'm sure
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I saw it. I had to have. I don't who
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directed that.
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I think Brona did, right, didn't Brona do it?
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Oh that's yeah, that's right, that's right. Yeah, I saw it.
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I don't remember shit about it. I had fewer issues
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with that than I did with this, but I think
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both weren't good.
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When we talk on the show about saving graces, we
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try to find something. What was your saving grace of Frankenstein.
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I really don't think they were one.
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I thought the opening was awesome.
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I didn't like the opening either. I thought the opening
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was it's very like CGI heavy, and in the opening,
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it's like you feel like you're watching a fucking superhero
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movie or something in a bad way, Like I feel
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like you're watching like a Marvel movie from twenty fifteen.
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Okay, well, they did have a Wolverine healing factor that
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they added to this movie. Yeah, so maybe that's a
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little bit of the superhero element. Do you think that
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it's GDT that's kind of I.
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Think it's Netflix. I mean, I think the movie doesn't
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work on its own, but I think Netflix doesn't have
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people with taste working there.
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It's not Charles Dance's fault.
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I'm trying to remember, Oh right that. Yeah, I had
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to think for a second.
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Doctor, Yeah, the dad, But yeah, I mean that is
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gonna be something we're gonna have to deal with for
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a while.
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Yeah, But I just like when you work with Netflix,
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you work with Netflix's people a lot of the time,
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and I think the CGI was like so bad it
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was distracting. The only stuff that worked was the stuff
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in Victor's childhood home. I think because that was you
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were on practical fucking sets.
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Yeah, that was a great set. I mean very narrow
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window there too, not a lot of time spent there.
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Well.
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Yeah, I think it's getting mix mixed more than anything.
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I feel like I was on an island really on
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especially on Letterboxed. Like I felt like I was the
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low man on Frankenstein.
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Yeah. I like Oscar Isaac. I really like Oscar Isaac.
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I think he was in a different, very bad movie.
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He was in, like a nineteen thirty one movie. He
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was in almost like a silent movie with and then
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they flipped on the audio or something.
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I like him generally, and I like him generally.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, did you see Wake Up dead Man? Mm hmm,
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okay you.
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Yeah, Okay, that's that's sounds enthusiastic. I didn't like Glass Onion.
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I didn't love Glass Onion. I thought this was the
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worst of the three. I like Ryan Johnson generally. I
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do as well.
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Well, if it's if you think it's worse than Glass
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Onion number I do. Yeah.
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I I My issue is that there there are three
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actors who have anything to do, and it's an ensemble piece.
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I mean, I guess you could argue Glenn Close does too,
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but like it's basically the Josh's O'Connor and Brolin and
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then Daniel Craig. They're the only ones with anything to do,
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and the rest is just like why, why are why
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are these stars here?
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I went to a screening of the Mastermind. Kelly Reichert
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was there, and she said that kind of how how
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it came about was she felt really bad that Josh
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O'Connor wasn't getting enough parts, yeah, and decided to reach
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out and give him a boost. But Josh O'Connor is
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in kind of every every sixth movie? What's that? What's
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his contract right now with Hollywood?
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Yeah?
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When does he take the Marvel money?
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Yeah? But I don't know. I just I also felt
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like Wake Up Dead Man was I knew where it
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was going the whole time, which isn't good. Yeah?
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Another Netflix production, right?
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It sure is? Yeah? Yeah? Okay, So Train Dreams was
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they bought Train Dreams, right?
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They bought Train Dreams. Correct?
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Train Dreams, which we haven't spoken about on Mike. I
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mean you you you said it was good, but I
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hadn't seen it yet. I did see it, and it's fantastic.
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To me, it's a one A one B. Best movies
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of this year were that one battle after another, though
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think no good choice is that No.
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you know, maybe I've talked to you about this, but
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pay attention to like what he's doing, just like what
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this director is doing. How oh I mean yeah, just
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shot composition is yeah, gorgeous in this movie. Again, I'm
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really excited to go see that again. That's going to
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be one of the ones that I need to see twice,
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like I mentioned earlier. But yeah, Josh and I are
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very very high on Train Dreams. Josh and I are
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high on the source material, Josh is you.
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Know, I mean that's one of my favorite novels of
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the last years.
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Yeah, and I'm pretty sure you were the one that
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turned me on to Dennis Johnson because probably I don't
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think he was on my radar before that.
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I mean he's been on mine for I've been reading
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Dennis Johnson since two thousand and one or so.
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Yeah, it's really good. I mean, I I don't know,
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I'm absolutely smitten with train Dreams. I think it's way
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better than even the consensus. The consensus is still pretty high. Yeah,
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I think it's better than that, so I concur But yeah,
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when next we talk, we'll have a more thorough assessment.
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Maybe we should do like our top five or something
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like that.
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Yeah, I mean it's still really it's way too early
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for me to be able to do that. Well. Yeah,
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and I still haven't seen all the foreign shit.
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Well, when we get through twenty twenty six, we'll do
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our top five for twenty twenty five.
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I was thinking more like Oscar time.
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Sure we could do that.
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Would make sense because everything will have been like wide
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released at that point and I'll have seen at least
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the ones that I want to see. Yeah, I do
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have a surprise for you, Sean. Yes, I am going
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to throw to some audio here. Someone called in to
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the call in line. You're not aware of this, but
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here we go.
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You don you mean my name is Bill first time,
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long time, and I'm calling because I'm actually Seawan's un kind.
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We rewind friend from middle school out in Pittsburgh happened
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to google Shawn's name recently came across the podcast and
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have been listening to several episodes and I just wanted
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to call. Let you guys know that show's pretty cool,
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really dig it sounds like Sean's soon great and uh,
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you know, keep up the good work. The only criticism
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I have is that no one's picked Manequin yet. So anyway,
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keep up the good work, boys, and I'll be listening Shawn,
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you ever want to get in touch. See you.
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Didn't want his phone number going out for a mass
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consumption there.
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Nobody should have should have Bill's phone number though.
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Yeah, yeah, I had to change the file name too,
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but I could give you his number off Mike Sean.
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So what's really strange about that is it sounded like
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an outer breath friend named Bill that I have.
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Yeah, yeah, that I have that Bill that I know also.
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That I have from high school and technically my last
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year of middle school because I moved from Pittsburgh to
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back to Minnesota. So until the Pittsburgh name dropped there
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in my head, I was like, Oh, it's it's my
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friend Bill from Minnesota doing a little thing, and you know,
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maybe a little out of the ordinary for Bill to
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do that. I don't think he uh, I don't think
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he's a consummate listener to.
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The show, which Bill he should be?
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Yeah, come on Bill, Come on Bill.
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I'm not Pittsburgh Bill.
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Yeah.
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I guess what sam Anthony Park Bill.
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Yeah, he's got a lot of his plays. He has
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a new dog, so we'll give him a break. Okay.
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Pittsburgh Bill was I was only in Pittsburgh for a
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couple of years seventh eighth grade, but Pittsburgh Bill was
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the name I would give to people when I talked about, oh,
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my best friend from Pittsburgh. So, yeah, this is like
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a you know, this is your life type of moment
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because that I did not expect to hear that voice
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again or hear that name mentioned. So I am, uh yeah,
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you've you've, you've you've quite surprised me.
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Josh uh huh. So we've been recording for season four
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and the episode we did with Craig, we kept like
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teasing and throwing back to like the friend that he
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lost touch with, and I had this voicemail funny. I
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had to restrain myself from dropping it in then to
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be like, well, Craig, we don't have your friend Chris,
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but Sean. I had to stop myself from doing that
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because that would have waited, like we would have to
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wait till March to drop that. So I didn't want
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to do that. So luckily we had this excuse to
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throw this in there.
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Yeah, and you had already spoiled that Pele was in
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victory for Craig.
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So yes, yeah, you did a.
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Great job restraining yourself on this. Wow, I will definitely
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get in touch with Pittsburgh Bill. That is a complete
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blast from the past, and you know, it's actually funny.
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There has been kind of a circumspect mentioning of Bill
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on this podcast when we talked and maybe you have
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a better memory of this, but we talked about maybe
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forty eight hours or something like that in a roundabout way,
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and I remember saying that, like, I had a friend
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in Pittsburgh had another forty eight hours, and it was
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like one of my first examples of like seeing a
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like adult film represented in a movie, right, Yeah, yep, yeah,
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because there is a motorcycle chase scene that goes through
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the screen at like a porn theater, and I know
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that Pittsburgh Bill had a copy of that movie. I
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definitely know that that's where I saw it.
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I'm trying to think of when was that during was
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that during the were we talking about just one of
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the guys.
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Maybe that's entirely possible because nudity was such a big
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part of that movie. Yeah, I think we did. Yeah,
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we did kind of like an I think it was there.
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I think it was. I think it was just one
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of the guys that we're talking about, but I might
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be misremembering if you're listening, Bill, which we.
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Had kind of a psychological deep dive on on our adolescence.
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And speaking of that, I guess we also did that
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last night for an episode that will be dropping as
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a bonus full episode.
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My good lord, Yeah, take your daughter to work day.
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Yeah, so last night we recorded full bonus episode on
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Excalibur with friend of the pod, former guest and Mordred
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Tattoo have.
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Her EXCaliber super fan Chad Burns. Chadburns.
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So that was super fun. It's gonna be a loose one.
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I'm not going to do like crazy heavy editing or
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anything like that. It's just going to be like cleaned up,
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so we're not talking over each other.
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We should do a tease though, Josh of Chad's tattoo,
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if you will give us the rights.
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So I can pull it up right now. I think
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actually we.
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Need to drop that on the socials when when we
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drop Excalibur, because that's what's really going to get people
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in the door.
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But I think I can pull it in right now too,
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into the into the broadcast. Give me one second.
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This guy loved Excalibur so much.
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And it's a dope fucking tat.
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It is a fucking tat. Yeah. It is one of
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the more kind of sinisterly disturbing suits of armor that
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you'll kind of ever see in h fantasy film and
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Tales of Knights. But yeah, Mordred is the I guess,
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the bastard son of King Arthur slash nephew.
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Yeah, here it is all right, So for wait, sorry,
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this is that's I'll go with a still.
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Okay, And for the listeners, it is Mordred on his horse,
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on his armored horse.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's so hard to kind of describe this
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helmet that he wears. It's basically like a representation of
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a face, of a god's face. It's gold. It has
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articulated abs pecs and maybe a belly button and nips
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and nips, so it looks like kind of a gold
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and where is is this a calf? What is this?
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Yeah?
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This is calf and it's got this shadowing all around it.
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It's it's almost like a Sepia tone.
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Yeah, it's it's a killer tat. It's it's really dope.
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I can't imagine anybody has a tat like this.
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Yeah, it's it's crazy.
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I think it's.
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Yeah.
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And as we mentioned the first time that that at
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least has been admitted that somebody has come on the
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show to talk about a movie that they have a
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tattoo on their body.
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Yeah. Yeah, now this one is a little break from
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the norm as Chad has seen it much more recently.
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Yeah, this was not a surprised Chad.
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Yeah. Yeah, this was not a surprise at Chad. This
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was we were like, hey, want to come on and
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do a bonus episode. You have a tat of this movie.
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And to be clear, if anything, it was an unkind
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rewind for me because I had not seen this since
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high school.
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It's been a long time for me too to start
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to finish. Yeah, I mean Chad was watching this once
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a week, Josh and I just decided to jump in
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for one of those weeks, right right, and then and
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then talked to him about it. I think though that
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for me, the one of the big positive spins I'm
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talking about Excalibur with Chad was that I felt like
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there was some new things that we were able to
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talk about with him, like some things that maybe he
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hadn't considered or oh yeah, he hadn't realized. You know,
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sometimes you need a couple other perspectives in the room.
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And it did not, I mean spoiler, it did not
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diminish the ardor and love that he has for this.
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He might get it, He's probably gonna get another tet time.
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I don't want to get ahead of ourselves. You know,
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I was the one who had the least least like
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childhood affinity for it. Yeah, you had like I had.
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I had like a like a passing appreciation for it,
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But uh, you know, I wasn't like someone who loved
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the movie or for for whom it was a like
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a childhood stable or anything. It was for you and Chad,
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you had.
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The least skin in the game of Yes, yeah for sure.
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But yeah, I mean you saw EXCaliber so oh yeah,
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now you're fucked.
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Yeah, much more on that next week. Yeah, So I
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don't know. Obviously we're actively recording for the upcoming season.
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We're like twenty five percent of the way through.
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We'll get we'll get mannequin in some let bill know.
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Yeah that mannequin has showed that happened.
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Yeah, it has showed.
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We're not avoiding it, no, and really I just want
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to get Mannequin out of the way so we can
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do Mannequin two on the movie, right, which I've seen
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very recently.
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And then has a tattoo of that on his cat.
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Yes, I have a tattoo of Christy Swanson turning into
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a annaquin.
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Christy Swanson is your mannequin, right, Like that's.
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Yeah, my mannequin is Christy Swanson. Can't control.
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Yeah, I mean I know that you've gotten in a
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couple fights over that.
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Brawls, Yeah yeah, yeah with children.
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Do not bring that up at like a roadhouse.
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If you see Josh I beat the shit out of
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a ten year old. Yeah, I mean, how dare you
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say my mannequin's Kim contrel.
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It was a good fight for like the first thirty
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seconds because he was fast.
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Yeah yeah, but that then all I needed to do
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was land one head blow, and uh.
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I mean maybe it's considered cheating but you had the handcuffs,
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so you put one on your wrist and then one
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on his and so he couldn't get away.
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Yeah. So it was like a bound knife fight.
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Yeah, like a Sin City when Marv gets a hold
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of Elijah Wood.
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Yeah.
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After that it was over. Yeah, but I mean you
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really have to stop. You really have to stop when
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the cops show up next time.
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Yeah. Yeah, that was a rough You just sad.
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This is a big deal for you. I mean, Christy,
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Christy Swanson's is one of your people.
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Big time. Yeah. We took this down a weird path.
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Not weird, it's not not that weird.
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Uh.
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Oh, so CIVI a quote, it's an app. It's an app.
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And we're talking today on our third birthday. So a
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thousand is.
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It really a third? Yeah? Wow? Crazy? I know I've
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played all but about what fifty of the games?
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I think, Yeah, well, one of these days we'll figure
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out which of those fifty. But we put in one
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of our one of our favorite movies. And I say our,
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but when I mean mine. Yeah, so we'll typically do that.
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I'll typically put a movie I love on my birthday
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in a movie I love on Senate Quotess birthday.
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So it's like a what seventy five, five eighty twenty
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split on you versus flat choosing quotes.
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Roughly, Fleot tends to pick the Saturday movies, which family fun.
510
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:20.599
Sure, and then the ones I'm most likely to miss.
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Yeah, he'll do Fridays most of the time as well,
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and then sometimes when we have fires in the server
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room and he's got to do a bunch of things
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and yeah, you'll I might, I might hop on and
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y and take one of those two for him. But yeah,
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it's it's like a five. I'll do Sunday through Thursday
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pretty consistently, yea, And then Flet's good to go pretty
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much all the time on Friday Saturday.
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Okay.
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But yeah, we're doing a little bit less holiday movies
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this December. Sure, maybe one or two a week if that, I.
522
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Mean, it would get too predictable. Frankly, are you current?
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So we're recording Tuesday the sixteenth, I've not done Tuesday?
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Okay, So you did Sunday in Monday? Yeah, which I would,
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you know, At least in my experience of playing these games,
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I think that we're one of the only movie trivia
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games that has the balls to do sing sing, followed
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by air bud colon Golden receiver.
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Uh huh no Golden retriever, No, Golden receiver, Golden receiver.
530
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:29.720
You're right, You're right, it is Golden receiver. Yeah.
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Was that inspired by that text thread Withdrew?
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Probably?
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Yeah?
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I did just watch it. Yeah, we should probably get
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those guys to play yesterday's game.
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Oh yeah, did you Adam and I? We did? Some
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fuck who was in it? Somebody who was on munch
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My Dents and was in the movie spy Mate.
539
00:29:58.039 --> 00:30:02.200
Oh okay, you guys. You guys know TV actors like
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the back of your hand in a way that I
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will never know.
542
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:07.920
Well, this was a This was like a stunt cast,
543
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you know, like an actor. I can't remember who it
544
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was now, I guess I'll just find out since I'm
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talking about it. But what it was, it was a
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known actor who was in it, Richard kind.
547
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Of firstborn?
548
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Yeah, first a firstborn, yes, which we talked about on
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the episode. But spy Mate is a chimpanzee spy Okay.
550
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It's not in the MVP world.
551
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Though, Well it's by the same studio that did air.
552
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But okay, was the MVP franchise like a rival studio.
553
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:43.119
Then that we're like, okay, they've got the dog cornered.
554
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We have to get a chimp on ice cab.
555
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:49.559
I assume it's a raight yes, yeah, it's post cannon
556
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:54.799
like Golan Globus split. You know where Golan or Globis
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did Lombarda and the other one did h A fuck?
558
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:03.319
What did they call it? The Forbidden Dance? I think
559
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:07.799
they each had a Limbata movie. Okay, yeah, Like, I'm
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00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:09.240
not gonna let you beat me to the punch.
561
00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:13.240
Yeah, it's Armageddon deep impact, you know what I mean. Yeah,
562
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:15.799
it's most valuable primate. Oh it is from the people
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00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:18.640
who brought you Earbut okay, interesting.
564
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:23.720
Yeah, Now I am curious about ciaph in twenty twenty one.
565
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:24.720
I don't know who did that.
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00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:27.480
What that's a banger of a title.
567
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:31.680
It's a great, great title. But uh, it's going to
568
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:35.279
be a while before we find somebody who grew up
569
00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:39.160
watching Spymate. But trust me, it's on the radar, Like
570
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I'm on the lookout for this showing up on a
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list of one of our Perspective guests.
572
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:46.799
Okay, so Josh, I'm gonna ask you, you know, without
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without cheating here, MVP Most Valuable Primate was chimpon skates.
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00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:57.200
What sports did the two sequels specialize in with the
575
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:01.240
same chimp? So they were MVP two and MVP three.
576
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:05.400
Okay, so once hockey the first one's hockey yep, okay,
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downhill skiing.
578
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:11.839
Very close snowboarding.
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00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:15.279
Oh well, I was I was gonna go from downhill
580
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:16.680
skiing to biathlon.
581
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:20.920
Okay, bye, by athlon, My athlone would be great. I
582
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:22.680
will say, though, I mean it's a little unfair to
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00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:25.839
you because they changed the title to m XP.
584
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:27.680
Okay.
585
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:31.799
For the third one, most extreme primate, and he does
586
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:34.799
look pretty badass on his snowboard. I mean, I gotta say, is.
587
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:37.039
He like doing the halfpipe or what's what's going on?
588
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:38.759
He probably does the half pipe in the movie, but
589
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:42.000
on the cover he's just going full speed. Okay, okay,
590
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:43.880
So now you need to guess what the sport is.
591
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:49.720
For the second one, most vertical primate, the ski jump,
592
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:53.599
it's actually skateboarding. That's a bummer, Yeah, but I actually
593
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:55.960
think you're kind of right in a roundabout way. He
594
00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:57.720
does look like he's going up the half pipe on
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00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:03.440
the box, okay, okay, and he is shredding dude.
596
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:06.799
Maybe we do like bonus episodes where we just watched
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the MVP franchise.
598
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:13.440
Yeah, and and this would have been the greatest of
599
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all coincidences. Unfortunately we can't quite get there. The lead
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in Most Vertical Primate is Richard karn al Al from
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al Porland. But yeah, and I've probably mistaken those two
602
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:32.960
names before.
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Oh Karen and kind Yeah, I've been working my way
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through the full time secret base thing where John Boys
605
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:49.839
is using is using tool time, using that while using
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00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:56.160
the Tooltime dynamic from Home Improvement to talk about the
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the invention of basically the Internet. You but like telegraph,
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00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:06.000
you know, like so so like sam Samuel Morris is
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really the tim the toolman Taylor and is Alexander Vain
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00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.400
is his? Is his like al Borland who actually knows
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00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.519
what he's doing, because if you look into like everything
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00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:20.920
that Samuel Morris was doing, this is the first section
613
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:24.039
of it is on on the invention of the telegraph,
614
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:26.400
and Morris is a fucking idiot.
615
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:29.400
Oh okay, yeah, I have no idea what that is.
616
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:30.679
You're gonna have to send it to me.
617
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:32.840
Oh yeah, it's great. Do you ever watch any of
618
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the John Boys stuff. He did the Dave Steve thing.
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I don't think so.
620
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:40.639
He mostly does like sports stuff, but he did. He
621
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did a really great YouTube doc on oh John Boy
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John Boys not not John Boy John Boys bo I s. So.
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He did the history of the Seattle Mariners, which was great.
624
00:34:56.679 --> 00:35:01.199
He did the like it's like a seven hour history
625
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:04.519
of the Minnesota Vikings, which is fucking amazing. Like I
626
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:09.840
don't like the Vikings. I watched every episode of the
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Vikings Dock.
628
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:14.760
All Right, we're getting a kind of a out of
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the blue recommendation here from Josh oh.
630
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I talk it. I feel like I've actually talked about
631
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:23.119
him on the POT before, but really really great stuff. Yeah,
632
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:24.760
i'll send you. I'll send you the links.
633
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:31.119
His face is not familiar. Okay, one more thing here,
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just on MVP, because it's gonna be a while before
635
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we talk about it again. On the Wikipedia under reception,
636
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it says, and this is, by the way, the second one,
637
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:44.960
the sequel vertical premit says on Rotten Tomatoes, the film
638
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:48.400
has three reviews listed COMMA all negative.
639
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.760
Shocker, that's just because I haven't reviewed it.
640
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:56.440
Yeah, you could maybe bring it back up.
641
00:35:56.840 --> 00:36:02.880
Yeah, I hate I hated Grama Del Toros Frankenstein, but
642
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:07.960
but most Vertical Primate, The second in the MVP series
643
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:09.760
is a banger.
644
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:14.320
The guy who directed MVP also directed m v P
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two Air Bud Seventh Inning, Fetch Spy Mate, Air Bud Spike. No,
646
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:22.400
he did not. He only produced Airbud Spikes back.
647
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:27.239
Oh is this Robert Vince? Yes? Oh, man, the Legend.
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Air Buddies, Snow Buddies, Space Buddies, Santa Buddies, the Search
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00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:36.599
for Santa Pause, Spooky Buddies, Treasure Buddies, Santa Pause too.
650
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:37.719
I'm gonna stop there.
651
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:41.440
I think that's enough because you're burning. You're burning. Our
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next podcast, The Vince Cast.
653
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:48.599
I'm I mean, the the amount of listeners at this
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point that we're losing is is a hemorrhage. And this
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is a This is a gsw to the chest.
656
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Yeah, So everybody be on the look at for our
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Splinter podcast, The Vince Cast until then, or until next week,
658
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:10.079
I guess, Happy Holidays and we'll be back with old
659
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buddy chat Burns to talk about Excalibur.
660
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:15.280
That's a good one.
661
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:18.840
Yeah, Yeah, it's fun. Up. You're gonna have a blast
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till then. By Condos.
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