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All right, Jeremy, what do you have today?
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I've got truth bait, click bait.
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What do you have?
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Well, sadly, I have afterbirth abortions.
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I have censorship.
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And I have our environmental destiny.
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Let's get to the truth.
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Okay, people, let's begin.
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Five, four, three, two, one.
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Lift off.
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We have a lift off.
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Are you ready to be baited with the truth?
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Good, because you're listening to the Truth Bait Podcast.
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I'm documentary filmmaker and podcaster, Andrew Marcus.
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And with me always as we deconstruct America's propaganda war and put some truth back into
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the narrative is the only doctor of cultural therapy you should be seeing.
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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, give it up for the one and only rebel pundit, Jeremy
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Siegel.
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Thank you, Mr. Marcus.
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Jeremy Siegel, I have to tell you, your audio level is blasting loud, really hot at me.
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Are you okay?
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Is your level okay?
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Looks fine to me.
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All right, good.
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Well, we'll fix it in post.
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Jeremy?
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Did I sound really, did I sound too loud?
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You sound, maybe you just sounded very excited.
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Maybe that's all it was.
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I think that's what it was.
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No, I think it's, yeah, that is what it was.
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I came in excited today.
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Came in hot on the mic.
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How was your week?
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Did you watch the Kennedy hearings, the censorship hearings?
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No chance I would do that.
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That's why I'm here.
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That's why I didn't watch.
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Because I knew, I knew I didn't have to because you would watch it for me.
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You have come to rely on me.
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Yes.
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As hopefully our producers have come to rely on the Truthbait podcast, which is why they
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share the show, right, Jeremy?
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That's right.
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We ask you all to share the show.
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Share the show.
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Go rate the show.
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You listen to the show on Apple podcasts, you go to our Apple podcast page, you scroll
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down past all of our episodes.
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This is episode 43, so the list is getting longer for you to scroll down.
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And at the bottom, that's where you can leave your rating and a comment.
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I haven't checked anything today.
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Have you checked?
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Have you checked recently?
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Let's go look.
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I have not checked.
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We had a, oh, yeah, we have one more.
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Hey.
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Yeah, one more, one more star rating.
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We're still at five out of five, but not a new, no new written comment that I can see.
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Sometimes those delay, but you know, that's great.
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We don't, you don't have to leave a written comment.
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We love the five stars.
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Thank you for the five stars.
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We appreciate that.
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Is it better?
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Should we ask for four star ratings also or only?
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Because we've been insisting on only five star ratings.
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What are you, what?
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No, we can ask for four star ratings.
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There aren't going to be any.
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Jeremy, our producers understand five star quality podcasting when they hear it.
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No, I was just wondering, because we have insisted that only five star ratings are acceptable.
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And I was just wondering if somebody was holding back a four.
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Here's what I would suggest.
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They write us, let us know how we can be a five and then they'll rate us a five once
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we are a five.
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In their eyes, write us a truth at truthbait.com.
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That's a good idea.
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Truth at truthbait.com.
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If you think we're a one or a two, I really want to hear from you.
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That would help because we would know then what's wrong.
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And we need to know what's wrong.
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Because to us, everything's perfect.
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Oh, there's a lot that's wrong with the previous episode.
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Did you notice that there was a glitch in the previous episode?
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You told me about, you informed me about it prior to my awakening that morning.
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Oh, did I wake you?
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I told you prior to your awakening.
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That means I woke you up or you just know that the text came.
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I received a text upon opening my eyeballs.
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That said there was a problem with the upload.
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Yeah, I have no idea what happened.
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We uploaded cultural therapy because I accidentally almost called you a cultural therapist in
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the previous episode.
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So we titled it cultural therapy and I uploaded it.
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I went to bed, woke up in the morning, just happened to think to check the post and it
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was, here, I'll play it for you.
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You hear that?
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Are you going to play it?
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Yep, I am playing it.
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Yep.
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Nothing.
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And for some reason, the track was blank.
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I have no idea where in the process that happened.
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You and I have been recording very, very late.
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Today we're recording that actually early for us, but your schedule, my schedule, our
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conflicts have forced us to record very, very late.
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It was extremely late into the wee hours.
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It was early in the morning, frankly, once I was posting and I just did not.
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My quality control skills were lagged and I posted an empty file.
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So I had to...
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A blank show.
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What I want to know is if any listeners heard the blank show before it was fixed.
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And I have a prize.
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Has anybody said anything to you?
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No one said anything, but now I'm offering a prize.
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Here is the interesting thing though.
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I uploaded it as cultural therapy.
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Now I then go and I deleted the episode because you have a choice.
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You can just upload a new audio file, but then it takes a while to push that new audio
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file out.
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And what I was worried was that people would just go and counter the blank episode and
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never find that the new episode was pushed to them.
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So I deleted the episode and uploaded cultural therapy two, which was the same thing.
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But with actual audio here.
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That's from cultural therapy two.
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We actually did have liftoff.
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So if people are wondering why it said cultural therapy two, I don't know if people see cultural
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therapy on there when you go look where you, I don't know where you listen to the podcast,
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Jeremy, but where you do, do you see cultural therapy there or do you only see cultural
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therapy two?
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Let me check.
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I'm curious what people out there see.
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I see cultural therapy two on ample podcasts.
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And you don't see cultural therapy.
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Right.
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Ooh, that means I could in theory go back and change the name of culture, just take
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the two off of cultural therapy and just have it be cultural therapy.
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Although at this point I kind of like that it's cultural therapy two.
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And then there's the mystery of where's cultural therapy one.
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Yeah, but you would have to name this episode cultural therapy two so that it would make
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sense because we're you're explaining why the whole.
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Well then it would be, but it would be cultural therapy T O O.
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Cause we already have a cultural therapy too.
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Do you see we can't have another one unless you're going to have a cultural therapy 22.
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Yeah it's now see now.
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Yeah it is.
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I agree.
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So, so what did you do this week?
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What have you spent your time on?
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Have you spent your valuable time on?
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Where are you?
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Are you in a safe zone right now?
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I am in a safe zone.
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I spent my time.
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I spent some time picking blackberries for truth berry farms, blackberry jam.
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Is that right?
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Yes.
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You're going to, you're going into the jam business.
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One jar at a time, apparently.
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Three cups of wild picked blackberries equals two eight ounce jars.
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Two tablespoons of jam.
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But I did it.
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I did it without pectin.
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I am, jar by jar, I'm getting better and better.
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Although I need to try and figure out a way to do it in a way that it doesn't thicken
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up quite so much.
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You made jam.
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Oh yeah.
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I made jam.
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Where did you learn how to make jam?
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The interwebs.
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This is, and you also did, there was a, you had visitors at your swing set.
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I know where you're going with this.
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One of the largest wasps nest I've ever seen.
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When we were over at your house on the 4th of July and I had all my kids and you're like,
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hey kids, if you want to go out on the swing set, go ahead.
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Just be careful around the slide and then sure enough, there's the biggest wasp nest
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I've ever seen on the slide.
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Yes.
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And two of my kids got attacked by your pet wasps.
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It attacked children specifically.
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It preyed on children.
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It was a child predator wasp nest.
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Did you know the nest was there?
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Oh, absolutely.
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What are you kidding?
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I thought your children were tougher than that.
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Come on.
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No, the point of this story is you sent me a picture like a day later, two days later
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with a dead wasp nest.
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Yes.
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Did you call an exterminator or did you do it yourself?
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I did not do that myself.
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No.
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I thought you were finally becoming a homesteader.
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So I was going to do it myself.
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You're making jam.
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I looked up online how to do it.
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You know, I saw the videos.
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They actually seem pretty easy and then I remembered, I'm paying for a service already
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to come and exterminate the critters around my property.
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It doesn't cost me anything for them to come and do this.
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It's already part of what I'm paying for.
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And I quickly pulled out my phone and got my fingers dialing.
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And that day, that day.
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I have never been more disappointed in you than right now.
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That day, that day they were out and took care of it.
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Yep.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Listen.
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I thought you were, I'm like, wow, you went and got, you're making jam.
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You're killing wasps.
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You're, you know, living free and in the land of cheese.
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Baby steps, Jeremy, baby steps.
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And I want to say had those wasps stung me, I would never have taken it as well as your
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children did.
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Your children took it so well.
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Your little girls were so brave that, you know, they were, they were very bothered by
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it at first, but they, they, I was so surprised with how quickly they regained their composure
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and were like, yeah, no big deal.
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It's no big deal.
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By the time I had the baking soda and water in a paste ready to spread on their wounds,
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they were like, nah, no, don't bother.
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It's not, not really a problem.
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And I would have been in tears.
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I might've been, I would have had a problem.
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Those things hurt.
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Those things hurt.
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Wow.
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Sometimes we get right into the meat.
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And sometimes we really do a meander before we get to the heart.
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Here I thought I was going to be introducing you as like the newest homesteading friend
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I have.
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And instead you're just a guy that bottles up blackberries.
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I'm making, Hey, I don't yet know how to walk and chew gum at the same time.
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I'm making jam.
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I will get the next Wasp's nest.
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But I'm already paying for the service, Jeremy.
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Why would I do it if I'm already paying for the service?
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Yeah.
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But then there's like no adventure.
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I was going to videotape the guy.
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Unless the guy gets chased by the swamp.
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I was going to videotape him doing it in the hopes, not in the hopes, but you know, in
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the possibility that that might happen.
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And I turned around, he's already done it.
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He did it so fast.
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That's what I mean.
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It's so easy.
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You just spray it and done.
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Walk away.
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They're gone.
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They just literally, as they come out to get you, they drop dead.
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Yep.
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I just did one this morning.
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There's got my, my friend Keith is over painting again.
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And he's like, listen, we're totally ready to go up there and paint that part of your
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garage.
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Not until you kill that nest.
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And it was a giant one like you had.
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It was funny.
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It was almost like I said it there, like a trap, you know, it's like, here, go ahead
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and paint for me.
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Okay.
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And then he's up there and he's like, no dude.
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But you know, that spray goes like 20 feet.
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I took care of it already.
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That spray goes like 20 feet.
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They're dead.
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He's up there painting.
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Nice.
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All right.
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Well let's get up there painting ourselves here.
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What you have clickbait.
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What's your clickbait?
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Click what?
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Truth bait?
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What are you talking about?
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You brought clickbait to the truth bait podcast.
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I just realized it.
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Okay.
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I'm very intrigued.
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So, okay.
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So, and I don't have the clip of you, but I don't need it.
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We producer, executive producer Al sent in a story about Robert Kennedy Jr. and global
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warming.
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I can't find that story now.
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Oh, and I'm going to, I'm going to, I have something very exciting for you.
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Since you bring up Kennedy, I fixed his voice and I have the formula.
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The secret formula to fix his voice.
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Okay.
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And it's a good thing too, because you know, there was that hearing.
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And so I've got some Kennedy, not too much, but I've, I've, I've figured out a way to
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fix his voice.
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And what is it?
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It's in reference to Kennedy, you know, I, I, I know a lot of people that like Kennedy
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like I do, but they're a little more on the fence and they're concerned always.
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They're like, I like him.
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I like what he says, but I'm a little worried.
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He's like really pro environment, which is a funny way of saying that because I'm pro
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environment, but they're, they're worried that he's environmentalist.
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Right.
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Yes.
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And, and, and he may have been, it seems in the past, but I'm not sure he still is.
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And he made some comments about environmentalism being used to usher in authoritarian controls
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in our life.
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This is such good synergy.
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Oh, this is so good.
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Go ahead.
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And one of the, and one of the things that he said, which you brought a clip early on
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when we first started talking about him running for president and he's at a pro he's at like
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a street protest.
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It's years ago and he's talking about what seems to be sounding like jailing people who
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do not agree with, you know, the climate change agenda or who are not pro environment.
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Do you remember that clip?
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He was talking about the, do you have that clip?
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Well, I, I don't have the clip of us, but I have the, it's in this interview.
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Do you have the episode that he's doing?
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Do you know what episode it was?
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You're accusing me of bringing click bait to this show.
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And now we don't even know the context of how I brought it.
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I might have even said at the time that it was click bait.
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We're going to drill down.
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No, you might have, you might have, you, that's possible.
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You might have said it was click bait.
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I think that, that what's interest, no, because what, what it was is we were talking about
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it and you brought the clip and you were like, you know, what about this?
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And you know, his environmentalism and stuff.
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So that, the, the, the sound bite is here.
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This is an interview that he did a couple of weeks ago with the brain trust over at
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a reason magazine.
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It's Nick Gillespie and some other guy, I forget his name.
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And they seem like they're really trying to get Bobby Kennedy, uh, kinda or trap him or
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figure, or maybe they're just trying to get to the truth.
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Like we are.
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So here's, here's, here's the beginning of that segment.
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Explain what was your, in the past, you have called for the jailing of CEOs and climate
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change skeptics.
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We've got a clip from 2014 of you.
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Let's run that clip and then could you explain what was your thinking and whether or not
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it's changed since then?
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That's Nick Gillespie.
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You know who Nick Gillespie is?
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Yeah.
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He's a fan of Hating Brite Bart, which is what I think he's famous for.
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He was wearing the same thing in this interview that he wore in Hating Brite Bart.
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It's the same thing that he wears everywhere he goes.
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It's a black t-shirt, black V-neck t-shirt.
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He used to wear the leather jacket on top of that.
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Yeah.
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Guys never changed his clothes ever.
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It makes me think that he might be, he might be an op.
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There's something, he's so committed to this uniform, kind of like Bannon and his three
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collared button down shirts.
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Exactly.
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And his hobo raincoat.
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So anyways, Nick Gillespie, he's got this look on his face when he's asking him like,
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okay, let's see what this guy's going to say here.
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You know, he just looks condescending and that's how a lot of libertarians and you know,
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because they have figured out the secret to all of politics, which is extreme radical
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libertarianism.
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So anyways.
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Sure.
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So he was talking, he was asking him about that clip, which is the same clip that you
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brought to Truthbait a couple months ago.
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They should be enjoying three hots and a cot at the Hague with all the other war criminals
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who are there.
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What about politicians, people who deny who, to express skepticism?
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They're selling out the public trust.
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And you know, I think those guys who are doing the Koch brothers bidding and who are against
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all the evidence of the rational mind are saying that global warming doesn't exist,
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that they are contemptible human beings and that, you know, I wish that there were a law
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you could punish them under.
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It sounds like from this clip coming in on Kennedy's comments, that he's talking about
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jailing people, you know, over, you know, climate change.
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It does sound that way.
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You're right.
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Views.
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Yeah.
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I don't think there's a war, a law that you can punish those politicians under, but I
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do, I think the Koch brothers should be prosecuted for reckless and dangerous.
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Absolutely.
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That's a criminal offense and they ought to be serving time for it.
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So now they come back in and they're like, okay, we got you.
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Okay.
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Do you still feel that way?
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Obviously we're down one Koch brother.
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Yeah.
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You got to, you have to look at the earlier part of that clip.
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The earlier part of the clip.
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I don't know if there's an actual earlier part of that clip or not that he talks about,
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but what he's, he's referring obviously to earlier comments prior to making that comment,
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which has been cut out.
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Which she didn't show.
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It shows that I was being asked a question about their criminal conduct.
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The Koch energy at that time was, I think it was the third or fourth largest air polluter
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in the world.
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It was maintaining pet coke piles in Detroit and Chicago that were poisoning poor neighborhoods.
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It was, it was the, the, uh, it had been criminally convicted of violating environmental, which
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means it did it knowingly in order to make money.
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And what I say earlier on the clip, I say, if I, you know, the black kid steals $10 from
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a grocery store, you go to jail.
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Why shouldn't the Koch brothers be going to jail if they're, if they're stealing hundreds
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of millions of dollars, which was fun.
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Do you think people who,
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let me finish up because I do, I, I have said that, um, that companies that certain, certain
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or certain entities, corporate entities that habitually violate the law or whose purposes
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they injure the public, um, uh, public wheel, the public interest, those corporations should
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be subject to the corporate death penalty.
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And what that means is there's a, there's a, um, you know, the corporations are licensed
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by the states, but most of the states require that the corporation in order to get a charter
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and it operate in the public interest.
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And if it departs from the public interest, in other words, if it's completely consumed
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by private interest, that is actually damaging the public interest in the States, the secretary
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of state and the attorney general have the capacity in various states to act that charter
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in every.
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Dick Gillespie and this other guy, his sidekick on this interview at this point, you could
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see their like eyeballs are twitching because they're like triggered because they're such
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proponents of unfettered, uninterrupted free market capitalism that they champion the rights
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of the corporation usually to an extent that gives them greater rights over people.
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Um,
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Well, that or that or they're sitting there producing an interview with the guy and he,
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he's a run on sentence.
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That's true.
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And he, and with his voice being so hard to listen to, to begin with it, you, he could
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be sitting there as the interviewer thinking this interview is dying on the vine.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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Just like my clip is.
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But anyways, uh, no, but so, you know, Kennedy's talking about, uh, dealing with, with corporations
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and corporate power and the way that it goes.
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But the other thing I think they're triggered by is, uh, Koch brothers are probably the
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biggest, probably one of their biggest funders over at reason.
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Um, you know, so now they're, you're correct.
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They're a little worried about the corporate death penalty coming their way.
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You know, somebody has the ability to act that charter, for example, in New York state
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in the 1990s, um, the Republican attorney general, uh, liquidated the tobacco Institute.
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The tobacco Institute was an Institute that was created by the tobacco by Philip Morris
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and the other tobacco companies.
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Those companies knew for 60 years at their product was killing one out of every four
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of their customers who use the product as directed, but they were lying to the public
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about it and they were creating, Hey, let me finish this because this is important for
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people to know, you know, because I've been accused of this before.
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I think this is interesting and it's, it's, it's, you know, talking about this tobacco
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Institute was evidently created to give cover and, and cover up for the fact that tobacco
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was harmful for people.
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And there, there are how many types of organizations and entities out there now that are, you know,
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do the same thing.
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And it's every, and then there's every, uh, you know, corporate interest pushing the vaccines
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or health initiatives or there's the global warming stuff.
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And what Kennedy was talking about was companies pushing fraudulent and knowingly fraudulent
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information.
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Yeah.
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Should that, should that be penalized?
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You love him.
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I like him.
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I do.
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I like him.
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I like him.
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Yeah.
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I like this guy because he's, because I think he's honest.
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I don't.
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I, I thought he was at first, but I don't think so anymore.
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All right.
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Jeremy, do you have more, do you have more that you want to play of him, of your friend?
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Um, well, he does go on in the, I don't need to play at all.
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He does go on in the interview to make the case that the way COVID restrictions and authoritarian
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rules were put in place to control our behavior were used and how they're similarly doing
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the same thing with the climate change agenda.
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And this is why I don't trust him, Jeremy.
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And if you listen to it, he, he, that's, that's, that's what he says.
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He does not sound like he's for it.
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They asked him, he, cause he goes on to then say that the comments he was making back then
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were based on certain information that was put forth.
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And he basically says that if he had the information then that he has now, he wouldn't have made
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those comments.
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Now I'm not excusing his comments.
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I'm loving this moment right now.
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I'm not excusing his comments.
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What I'm enjoying is his willingness to not somehow try to spin his commentary into something
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that it wasn't.
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And he's, he even concedes a point to this other guy at reason.
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You know, it's like, there's a humbleness and he's like, yeah, I might've been wrong
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about that.
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Okay.
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Well, okay.
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Let's see if by the end of what I'm about to play, you feel that he is genuine.
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Okay.
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And maybe I'm looking at it with too jaundiced of an eye.
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Do you want to hear what I have for sure?
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Do you want to hear my technique for repairing him?
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Which is better.
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The technique is pretty good.
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Hang on.
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Okay.
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It's all fabulous.
501
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,640
I don't know what you're talking about.
502
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,960
So here is a clip of Kennedy on Joe Rogan.
503
00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:59,960
Okay.
504
00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:00,960
Just a short clip.
505
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:01,960
This is non-effective.
506
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:02,960
This is just him.
507
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:09,800
But he was looking at these non-conventional data sources like the ones that you spoke
508
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,800
of.
509
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:16,120
He was looking at insurance industry actuary, insurance industry data.
510
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,240
Not only is his voice hard enough to listen to, he's talking about actuary data.
511
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,640
All right.
512
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,640
Here is the repair.
513
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:28,400
But he was looking at these non-conventional data sources like the ones that you spoke
514
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,400
of.
515
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:34,640
He was looking at insurance industry actuary, insurance industry data.
516
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:35,640
Could you tell the difference?
517
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,240
Yeah, I would say it's better.
518
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,680
Data sources like the ones that you spoke of.
519
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,120
He was looking at insurance industry actuary.
520
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,200
Data sources like the ones that you spoke of.
521
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,840
He was looking at insurance industry actuary, insurance industry data.
522
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,000
Do you want to know how I did it?
523
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,800
I don't know if I even want to say it out loud.
524
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,060
The whole world will have the formula.
525
00:29:58,060 --> 00:30:01,040
This is like a secret formula, a secret sauce.
526
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,000
Chat GPT or AI.
527
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:16,200
Okay, it's possible that it could be artificial intelligence, but it was me.
528
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,200
That's definitely artificial intelligence.
529
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,200
Exactly.
530
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,200
I won't take credit.
531
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,920
I don't know if I'll characterize my intelligence as authentic.
532
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:30,120
I just had the bright idea to speed them up by 20%.
533
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,120
That's all it is.
534
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,120
I sped them up by 20%.
535
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:45,480
If you got him a brain implant, an AI brain implant, you could speed him up by 20%.
536
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,640
He just needs to have all of his comments recorded and sped up 20%.
537
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:57,360
Or there should be a real time AI filter that he could go through.
538
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:05,800
I think you just created a job for yourself at the campaign.
539
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,160
I'm on it.
540
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,640
I'll still do the show though.
541
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:15,800
You could be his full time voice engineer.
542
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:21,600
This is from a talk that he gave to the University of Chicago.
543
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,280
It's posted eight years ago.
544
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:28,120
I don't have the exact date of the talk, but I assume it's probably pretty close to when
545
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,520
it was posted.
546
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,000
Our environmental destiny.
547
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,300
I have a few clips from it, which I think were...
548
00:31:38,300 --> 00:31:42,720
I have not taken them out of context, but I have lifted them out of the longer piece.
549
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,520
But I think they are illustrative.
550
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,480
Here's the first one.
551
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:58,840
I got into this, into the environmental racket, working for fishermen on the Hudson River.
552
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,480
So I just like that very...
553
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,680
That literally was at the very front of his comments.
554
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,720
Did anything jump out to you about that?
555
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,720
No.
556
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:15,340
I got into this, into the environmental racket.
557
00:32:15,340 --> 00:32:18,960
The environmental racket.
558
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:19,960
He just meant business.
559
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,960
Really?
560
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,960
I don't know.
561
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:27,880
I think that's one of those truth wants to come out kind of moments.
562
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,080
To me, it sounds pretty honest.
563
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,080
Okay.
564
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,640
That's what it is.
565
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,640
It's a racket.
566
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,640
Okay.
567
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,640
Okay.
568
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,920
Very interesting you say that.
569
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:39,920
Let's keep going.
570
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:46,240
I would argue that in 100% of the situations, good environmental policy is identical to
571
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,400
good economic policy if we want to measure our economy.
572
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:55,120
And this is how we ought to be measuring it, based upon how it produces jobs and the dignity
573
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,320
of jobs over the generations, over the long term, and how it preserves the value of the
574
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,520
assets of our community.
575
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,160
If on the other hand, we want to do what the polluters want us to do, which is like the
576
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,960
Koch brothers or Exxon, the people who are funding the Tea Party, which is to treat the
577
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:16,240
planet as if it were business and liquidation, convert our natural resources to cash as quickly
578
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,500
as possible, have a few years of pollution-based prosperity.
579
00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:24,640
We can generate an instantaneous cashflow and the illusion of a prosperous economy,
580
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,320
but our children are going to pay for our joyride and they're going to pay for it.
581
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,960
And we can make a few people billionaires by impoverishing the rest of us.
582
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:39,400
Now I ask you, Jeremy, are you down with that description of basically just major industry
583
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,400
in this country?
584
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:46,200
Because that's really what the Koch brothers are, major infrastructure industry.
585
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,200
Are they evil?
586
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,200
Are they evil?
587
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,200
I think so.
588
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,720
Capitalists just trying to strip the planet so that they can get a short-term gain?
589
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,280
I don't think the Koch brothers are capitalist.
590
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,120
Do you think that they are trying to destroy, that they don't care that they're destroying
591
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,280
the planet just for some profit?
592
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,280
Yes.
593
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,040
You really believe that?
594
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,040
Yeah.
595
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:13,080
I do not believe the Koch brothers are interested in humanity or the wellbeing of people.
596
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,960
How about just their own grandchildren?
597
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,400
I don't know about their grandchildren.
598
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,540
You don't think they care about their own grandchildren?
599
00:34:22,540 --> 00:34:25,560
I don't know what they care about.
600
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,520
I think the Koch brothers are evil.
601
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,520
Wow.
602
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,520
Wow.
603
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,880
What do you base that on?
604
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,360
Look, I don't know that they're angels.
605
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,360
I think they are.
606
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,200
Maybe they are evil, but I don't have any information to base that.
607
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,080
I think they're just as evil as George Soros.
608
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,880
Okay.
609
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,060
I think they are globalists.
610
00:34:47,060 --> 00:34:50,200
I think they have been positioned.
611
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,840
And because what he said was accurate in many ways.
612
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:58,320
He's upset with them because they're globalists, Jeremy.
613
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,320
Listen to the way he described them.
614
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,320
He lumped the tea party in.
615
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:07,040
No, he's upset at them because he thinks they're polluters.
616
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:12,280
And he thinks that they're corrupt in how they conduct their business operations that
617
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,120
lead to pollution.
618
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,120
That was what it sounded like to me.
619
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,120
Okay.
620
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,880
But he didn't give any evidence in that clip.
621
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:30,320
So I'd like to see some, I guess I'd like to see some, you know, it's fair to want
622
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,240
to see evidence of that.
623
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:40,360
But the way that the Koch brothers control and pull the puppet strings of all of the
624
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,640
nonprofits is the same way that George Soros does.
625
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:51,120
The way they're intertwined into every single aspect of politics of the right.
626
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:58,360
They are, they're pulling the lever of the direction of the movement and they were funding
627
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:04,120
the tea party and they were misdirecting the tea party.
628
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,120
They got everybody to become-
629
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:11,440
I think the tea party was more than just some of the big funders that came in after the
630
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,360
tea party pretty much grew organically.
631
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:20,560
It did and then they took it over basically and they took it over through funding everything.
632
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:21,560
Yeah.
633
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,880
I just don't know that that makes them evil.
634
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,880
Hold on.
635
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,880
Again.
636
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:25,880
It does if their interest is undermining.
637
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,880
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
638
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,880
Hold on.
639
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,200
I'm going to stop you because we're talking about two different things.
640
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,280
We're conflating two different things.
641
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,800
The reasons you think they're evil and the reasons Kennedy thinks they're evil.
642
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,560
And the question is not whether or not you think they're evil for different reasons.
643
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,920
It's do you agree with Kennedy's characterization of them?
644
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:56,480
Well, I would have to see, I would have to see more evidence of how they're doing what
645
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,840
he's accusing them of doing.
646
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:05,360
But my general tendency now at this point, seeing what I've seen over the last decade
647
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:11,080
and a half of following this stuff, I would side with him before I would side with the
648
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:17,080
Koch brothers and I would operate under the assumption that they are working against the
649
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:22,160
interest of the country and against the interest of the people because I have seen how much
650
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:29,000
they do in and toward the interest of globalism and getting rid of the United States.
651
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,520
And Kennedy's not doing that?
652
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:32,520
Kennedy's not a part of any of that?
653
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,520
Hold on.
654
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,120
Maybe he is, but I haven't seen it.
655
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,040
Okay, well, let's keep playing.
656
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,280
When parliament was debating a cap and trade system that's very similar to the one that
657
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,280
we passed in the United States Congress, it was called the Waxman-Markey bill two years
658
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,480
ago and it was then killed by the oil industry in the Senate.
659
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:53,880
And it was the cornerstone of Barack Obama's energy policy and to its credit parliament
660
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,560
ultimately passed the bill and their bill was much, much tougher.
661
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,520
And the bill was a, you know, it was, it's like a no brainer.
662
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,520
It was actually the system was dreamt up by the right wing of the Republican party and
663
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,480
it was just, it was a way to impose cap and trade.
664
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,040
It was a way to impose free market logic.
665
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:15,280
I love Ferdy and Slips.
666
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,040
They're my favorite.
667
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,960
He is talking about cap and trade, of course, but he's trying to put it in different language.
668
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,480
Say, you know, it was, it's like a no brainer.
669
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,480
It was actually the system was dreamt up by the right wing of the Republican party.
670
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,440
Yeah, cap and trade was so right wing.
671
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,720
You remember how that was like such a right wing thing, how Republicans were like, yeah,
672
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:37,120
cap and trade, we need cap and trade.
673
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,360
I don't, I don't remember that at all.
674
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,960
I think there were Republicans pushing for cap and trade.
675
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,920
The right wing of the Republican party.
676
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,520
No, the establishment maybe the right wing of the Republican party was not going for
677
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,520
cap and trade.
678
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,840
It wasn't right wing.
679
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,120
They weren't writing cap and trade.
680
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,280
He said, yes he did.
681
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,680
He said it's as though it came straight out of the right wing of the Republican party.
682
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,600
Scredded Parliament ultimately passed the bill.
683
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,080
Their bill was much, much tougher.
684
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,000
And the bill was a, you know, it was a, it's like a no brainer.
685
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,000
It was actually, the system was dreamt up by the right wing of the Republican party.
686
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,960
And it was just, it was a way to impose cap and trade.
687
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:20,560
It was a way to impose free market logic onto the disposal of carbon.
688
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,080
This is what he does.
689
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,080
Okay.
690
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:33,080
He takes, I think he takes leftist dogma and wraps it up in a veneer of, of conservatism
691
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,080
or free marketeer-ism, free market-ism, free marketeer-ism.
692
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:42,800
Well, it sounds like, it sounds like this, I don't know, what is this event again?
693
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,080
This is at the University of Chicago.
694
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,480
He is giving a speech called our environmental destiny.
695
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,480
Let's play a little more.
696
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,640
And in England, virtually everybody accepts the science behind global warming.
697
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:58,280
They haven't been deluged as we have in this country by $200 million propaganda campaign
698
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,280
funded by the Koch brothers, by Exxon, by the American petroleum Institute over the
699
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:07,280
past 20 years to persuade Americans that they're scientific doubt about global warming.
700
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,840
So in England, everybody recognized the science on that.
701
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,720
And they understand this is, they look at this as a grim reality that government has
702
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:17,120
to take a strong hand in addressing.
703
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,040
Oh, oh yeah.
704
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,840
Yeah, eight years ago.
705
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,120
I mean, I disagree with some of that for sure.
706
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,160
Yeah, some of it.
707
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,120
Let's just dig into it.
708
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:33,280
That that, you know, they're so smart in London because they, they're not deluged with all
709
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:39,320
this oil money that convinces people that tricks people into thinking that climate change
710
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,320
isn't real.
711
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,680
The global warming isn't real.
712
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:50,160
There's some garbage right there.
713
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,160
Then they do do that.
714
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,160
No, I'm sorry.
715
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,840
I would explain it differently.
716
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,280
They don't need to spend a dime because most people know that it's garbage.
717
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,960
No, but I would explain it.
718
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:12,960
I've explained it differently and that the, that the, the, the money that, that he's calling
719
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:19,440
propaganda, I also call propaganda that comes through Fox News and all of these places.
720
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:30,680
It's, it's, it's, it's created and put out in a way that creates a, it makes a paradigm.
721
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,480
Jeremy, climate change had already happened.
722
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,680
Climate gate happened two years before this.
723
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:44,840
Climate gate being when, when the, the, the NOAA, the pushers of, of global climate change
724
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:52,160
narrative were exposed about lying about the hockey stick graph that Al Gore used for his
725
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:57,120
load of garbage movie Fahrenheit 911.
726
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:03,880
So we already knew that all this data was a fraud when he was still pushing this as
727
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:04,880
gospel.
728
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:10,680
So in England, everybody recognized the science on the, they, and they understand this as
729
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,600
they look at this a grim reality that government has to take a strong hand in addressing.
730
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,920
Government has to take a strong hand in investing.
731
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:23,280
Well, that sounds really free market.
732
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,640
This guy's full of, he's full of it.
733
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,120
You can decide what it is.
734
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,840
I spent a lot of my time over the past 30 years suing the coal industry and coal burning
735
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,320
utilities.
736
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,320
That's nice.
737
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:43,560
Up until recently, I thought that it was bad for the government and these entities to be
738
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,360
suing coal out of business.
739
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,520
I thought we needed coal.
740
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,680
And I was in West Virginia two years ago and I had a six and a half week jury trial in
741
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:55,680
the state.
742
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,800
And in the end, we won the biggest judgment in the history of the state.
743
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,040
It was later essentially dismantled by the West Virginia Supreme Court, which is just
744
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:10,520
a subsidiary of the coal industry in the state.
745
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:15,160
We know this, that every nation that has decarbonized its society has experienced instantaneous
746
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Okay.
747
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's reading stupid talking points that are wrong.
750
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,080
This one's nuts.
751
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,440
This one is nuts.
752
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:30,080
We know this, that every nation that has decarbonized its society has experienced instantaneous
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00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,800
prosperity and wealth.
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00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,160
Iceland in 1970 decided to decarbonize society.
755
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At that time, it was the poorest country in Europe.
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They really wanted to get rid of carbon.
757
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,560
They were 100% dependent on imported coal and oil.
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They wanted to get rid of it because they were frightened of global warming, which impacts
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the northern latitudes disproportionately.
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And again, there were naysayers and people say we have to go slowly, but Iceland moved
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very deliberately.
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Within 15 years, they had completely decarbonized and Iceland today gets 95% of its energy from
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geothermal, local geothermal.
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00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,880
But it went during that period from being the poorest country in Europe being the fourth
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richest country by GDP on earth.
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00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,080
And now?
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Now, unfortunately for Iceland, they spent virtually all of their new found wealth on
768
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bundled derivatives and they are once again the poorest country in Europe.
769
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,800
Whomp, whomp.
770
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:23,000
Well, is that the fault of alternative energy?
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I just, amazing that they were the richest and then they spent all their money poorly
772
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and now they're the poorest.
773
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,000
I don't know.
774
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,200
It just is a very convenient narrative for him.
775
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:39,040
Well, but he says something interesting to me is, I don't know if it's true, I'd have
776
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to see it, but did it affect, was the wealth of that nation affected?
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Did it improve the financial condition for people there when they made that change or
778
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not?
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00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,840
So the fraud of the progressive left hand, was that responsible for their demise or was
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00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,680
it the fraud of the progressive right hand?
781
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:04,440
Yeah, I don't know which progressive hand it was that destroyed them, but yeah.
782
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:16,160
No, but the problem is all of it is so muddied and it's hard to find truth in any of it.
783
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:24,320
Because it's easy to, rah rah coal, rah rah gas, and I'm not against these things, but
784
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:31,720
those industries receive and rely on enormous government subsidies and always have.
785
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:32,720
I agree with that.
786
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:33,720
I agree with that.
787
00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:34,720
Yeah, sure.
788
00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:36,480
Yeah, but that's not the argument he's making.
789
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,180
That's not what he's talking about.
790
00:45:38,180 --> 00:45:43,720
He is saying that decarbonizing leads to instant wealth.
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00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:48,420
Jeremy, does that jive with you?
792
00:45:48,420 --> 00:45:50,520
It sounds inaccurate to me.
793
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,520
Inaccurate.
794
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:52,520
It sounds like a load of garbage.
795
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,520
Yeah, it does.
796
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,520
I mean, I agree.
797
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:58,520
Sweden's amazing.
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00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,840
Sweden in 1997 decided to decarbonize its society and incidentally to shut down its
799
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:08,120
nuclear power plants and closed the two biggest nuclear plants, slapped a $150 ton tax on
800
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:15,040
carbon and Sweden since then, and again, you had tens of thousands of entrepreneurs.
801
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:20,520
They slapped that free market tax on carbon by the way, that free market application.
802
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,280
Pushing into that space to create new forms of energy from wind, from tidal, from solar,
803
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,040
from geothermal, from putrid garbage and sawmill waste.
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00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:35,240
And today, Sweden, since 1997, Sweden's economy has grown by 45% while its energy use has
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00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:36,440
dropped by 9%.
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00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:42,760
Brazil 20 years ago decarbonized its transportation system and as a direct result of that choice,
807
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:47,800
Brazil, while the entire world economy spirals and collapses, Brazil is enjoying the longest,
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00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,320
most robust economic expansion in the history of Latin America.
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00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:55,480
Are you seeing a pattern?
810
00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,400
I'm seeing a pattern here.
811
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:08,840
So just again, I know it wasn't an executive producer, Ann, who sent what you referenced
812
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:18,640
earlier where he was outraged that they're using global warming as a fear tactic.
813
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:26,800
All I'm saying is that this guy has been at the center of pushing the entire ecosystem
814
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,840
that is that fear that everybody's experiencing now.
815
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,440
Well, and he should know.
816
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:34,920
Right, I guess so.
817
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,720
According to Scientific American, we're number three in terms of solar energy.
818
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:43,720
Scientific American just did a report that showed you could power the entire US energy
819
00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:49,680
grid from an area at 75 miles by 75 miles in the desert southwest.
820
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,200
We're number one in wind energy in the world.
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And the Great Plains states are kind of the Saudi Arabia of wind.
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North Dakota is the windiest place on earth at sea level.
823
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We have enough, according to the Scientific American, we have enough harnessable wind
824
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:08,040
in Montana, North Dakota, and Texas to provide 100% of our energy grid three times over,
825
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,200
even if every American owned an electric car.
826
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The price of wind and solar is dropping so dramatically, particularly solar, because
827
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of the Chinese involvement and because of the pace of technological improvements.
828
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,960
The price of solar since last year has dropped by 85%.
829
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:30,040
The problem is the North Dakota wind farmer cannot get his electrons to markets in Cincinnati,
830
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:34,800
Cleveland, Columbus, New Orleans, New York, or Chicago, because they will diffuse in the
831
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,840
line before they cross the North Dakota border.
832
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:42,200
And what we need to do is to build a, we need a national campaign like Eisenhower launched
833
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:46,880
with the highway system back in the 60s when I was a boy to connect every American community
834
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:53,000
to a national highway system for the sake of national cohesion, for the sake of commerce,
835
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and for the sake of national security, but to do it with an electric system to connect
836
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every American to a unified national grid.
837
00:48:59,780 --> 00:49:01,360
We changed the rules in California.
838
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The group that I work for, NRDC, we rewrote the rules so that instead of making money
839
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by doing bad things, utility CEOs make money the same amount of money or more, but by doing
840
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,600
good things.
841
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,020
And this wasn't a radical idea.
842
00:49:16,020 --> 00:49:22,040
They make money by getting their consumers to conserve energy or to switch to renewables.
843
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,280
It's not a radical notion.
844
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:28,640
Before we had deregulation in this country, the way that utilities made money is by building
845
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,180
capital projects.
846
00:49:30,180 --> 00:49:33,520
So they would go to the Public Utility Commission and say, I want to build a dam.
847
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The dam's going to cost $100 million.
848
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,840
I want to make 12% profit per annum.
849
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,640
And I want that integrated into the rate base.
850
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,840
The PUC, if they could demonstrate a need, the PUC would stamp it approved, and they
851
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,320
go ahead and build the dam.
852
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,960
Today, the way that the utilities make money in California is they go to the Public Utility
853
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:57,840
Commission and they say, we want to take the Edison light bulbs out of a million homes
854
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,680
and replace them with LED light bulbs that use 12% of the energy.
855
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:06,400
We want to go into a million homes and tear out the hot water boilers and the refrigerators
856
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:13,680
and air conditioners and other appliances and replace them with more efficient models.
857
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,360
It's going to cost us $100 million.
858
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,240
We want to make 12% profit.
859
00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:21,960
And it's going to save a lot more energy than we would create by investing in a bad dam
860
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:27,280
or a power plant, in some cases 5 to 10 times the amount of energy per dollar.
861
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:32,360
Because in 1982, we rewrote the law in California to make it so that free market capitalism
862
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,440
serves society rather than getting rich by doing evil things.
863
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,360
Today, Californians use half the energy that everybody else uses in our country.
864
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,520
I'm a partner in the biggest green tech venture capital firm in the country.
865
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,040
And so I'm deeply involved in building wind farms.
866
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,040
Wait, what?
867
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,040
What?
868
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,220
I'm a partner in the biggest green tech venture capital firm in the country.
869
00:50:54,220 --> 00:51:01,600
And so I'm deeply involved in building wind farms, solar farms, LED lights.
870
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,400
That explains a lot.
871
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:11,280
Can you imagine this guy helped change the law in California so that they could use free
872
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:19,960
market tax money to go eliminate light bulbs and rip out people's water heaters and put
873
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:24,640
in excellent new efficient ones that weren't made in China or anything?
874
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:32,080
Oh, but but but no, but it's totally altruistic because the guy is because we I'm a partner
875
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,560
in the biggest green tech venture capital firm in the country.
876
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:41,960
And so I'm deeply involved in building wind farms, solar farms, LED lights, electric cars,
877
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:42,960
etc.
878
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,360
How's your yard side coming, Jeremy?
879
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,280
How's your Kennedy Trump yard side coming?
880
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,720
I'm hammering it in the ground right now.
881
00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:55,280
Eyes wide open, my friend.
882
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,280
Eyes wide open.
883
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,040
Let's see what else do I have here.
884
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,040
We have a company called Cha Cha.
885
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,520
It's one of our portfolio company.
886
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:01,520
You may have heard it.
887
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,120
If you dialed Cha Cha 247-247 on your computer on your cell phone.
888
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,800
This is actually this is very interesting considering how old this is.
889
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,480
It will answer any question.
890
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:11,840
You know, usually within a minute.
891
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,720
So I was showing it to some in China the other day to some Chinese friends of mine.
892
00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:20,320
I said I asked him a question, I said, what was my favorite lunch on meal?
893
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,320
And I did it.
894
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,600
It comes back a minute.
895
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,660
So yeah, a couple of things here.
896
00:52:26,660 --> 00:52:31,000
Just to think about first of all, he's demonstrating this to his friends in China.
897
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,520
Okay, so there's your there's your non globalist right there.
898
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,000
He's pitching tech in China.
899
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,640
And look at what the tech is.
900
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,960
It's chat GPT eight years ago on a cell phone.
901
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,960
AI.
902
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,240
I we have a company called Cha Cha.
903
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:51,680
It's one of our portfolio company.
904
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:52,680
You may have heard it.
905
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:57,840
If you dialed Cha Cha 247-247 on your computer on your cell phone, it will answer any question.
906
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,240
You know, usually within a minute.
907
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:03,120
So I was showing it to some in China the other day to some Chinese friends of mine.
908
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,080
And I said, I said, ask me any question.
909
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,760
They said, what was Mao Zedong's favorite lunch on meal?
910
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:08,760
And I did it.
911
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,720
And he's that comes back a minute later saying spicy brown bean soup on pork fried rice.
912
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:15,400
And I don't know if that's right or not.
913
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,640
But it gave me an answer.
914
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,880
You think about what that would have cost you a few years ago.
915
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,180
Today, it's free because we built a national grid.
916
00:53:23,180 --> 00:53:24,220
That's a marketplace.
917
00:53:24,220 --> 00:53:28,080
It's free information forever.
918
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,360
To me would really jumped out there again.
919
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:39,560
So that's eight years ago, our Intel agencies have been using AI for many years.
920
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,600
It's only just now coming out into the public.
921
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:50,160
And what he was demonstrating was early AI on a cell phone, pitching it to his Chinese
922
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,160
friends.
923
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:57,000
Obviously, you have Kennedy derangement syndrome.
924
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,200
No, I was.
925
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,560
I was right there with you until I just went digging, man.
926
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,560
I just went digging.
927
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,400
And now I'm very suspect.
928
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,680
Look, in all fairness, I clipped something that I agree with.
929
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,720
Okay, I'm not just here to bag on him.
930
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:15,400
Let's play this.
931
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,760
The real threat to democracy comes from excessive corporate power.
932
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,440
And if you look throughout American history, the most visionary political leaders, Republicans
933
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,440
and Democrats, have warned Americans against excessive corporate power.
934
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,840
Teddy Roosevelt said that America would never be destroyed by a foreign enemy, but that
935
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:35,640
our beloved democratic institutions would be subverted by malefactors of great wealth
936
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,000
who would steal them from within.
937
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:42,700
Dwight Eisenhower said, a Republican, said in his most famous speech ever, warned Americans
938
00:54:42,700 --> 00:54:46,080
against the domination by the military industrial complex.
939
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,840
Abraham Lincoln, the greatest Republican in history, said in 1863 at the height of the
940
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,240
Civil War, I have the South behind me and I have the banker.
941
00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:57,280
I have the South in front of me and I have the bankers behind me.
942
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,600
And for my country, I fear the bankers more.
943
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:06,440
And Franklin Roosevelt said in World War II that domination of government by corporate
944
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,920
power is, quote, the essence of fascism.
945
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:14,080
And Benito Mussolini, who had an insider's view of that process, said essentially the
946
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,400
same thing.
947
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,600
He complained that fascism should not be called fascism.
948
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:22,360
It should be called corporatism because it was, in his words, the merger of state and
949
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:23,700
corporate power.
950
00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:28,400
And what we have to understand is that the domination of business by government is called
951
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,440
communism.
952
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,920
The domination of government by business is called fascism.
953
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:38,880
And our job is to walk that narrow trail in between, which is free market capitalism and
954
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,720
democracy and keep big government at bay with our left hand, big business at bay with our
955
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:43,720
right.
956
00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:46,920
And in order to do that, we need a free and independent press that's willing to speak
957
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,060
truth to power, which we don't have in this country.
958
00:55:49,060 --> 00:55:54,720
And we also need an educated public that can recognize all the milestones of tyranny.
959
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:56,840
And that is your job.
960
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:04,640
Okay, so I agree with that, except that he is an investor in green tech using the government
961
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,720
to commandeer tax dollars to push the policy he wants.
962
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:11,080
Jeremy, how is he any different?
963
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,080
He's a Koch brother.
964
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,480
He's a Green Koch brother.
965
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,080
Maybe.
966
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,600
Maybe.
967
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,480
I'm sorry I've done this to you today.
968
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,960
I didn't realize that was going to happen.
969
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,080
He walked into it like a buzzsaw.
970
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,820
The problem is I don't care.
971
00:56:32,820 --> 00:56:33,820
Let it settle in.
972
00:56:33,820 --> 00:56:35,320
Let it settle in.
973
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:40,520
Well, look, so we are now very Kennedy heavy.
974
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:48,400
I'm going to call an audible and not play most of what I have from the hearing.
975
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:53,360
I didn't have a ton because I have a new approach to these things.
976
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:58,760
I don't think we're here to provide big encapsulations of these giant hearings.
977
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,560
I think we're only going to pull out the things that are most interesting.
978
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,520
I pulled some clips that went viral that were up on Gateway Pundit.
979
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,400
I thought we could talk about those, but let's bypass those.
980
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:16,400
I want to go to just the one and only thing that I think was of real interest in this
981
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:22,280
hearing and that is the definite...
982
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:23,280
Let's see.
983
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:24,280
Here, we'll get...
984
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:30,380
There's a little bit of Massey at the beginning of this, but he teased up the question.
985
00:57:30,380 --> 00:57:36,440
This is a hearing on censorship that began with an effort with a formal motion from the
986
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:40,200
other side of the aisle to censor Mr. Kennedy.
987
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:45,080
They do not want him to speak, yet that is the topic of this hearing.
988
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,280
They have kept him from speaking.
989
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,960
A collusion between the government and private organizations.
990
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:57,480
Mr. Kennedy, in your opening statement, you introduced us to this word malinformation.
991
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:04,520
Can you tell us more about this made up word, what it means and some of the things that
992
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,520
you've said or tried to say that you've been censored for that's been characterized as
993
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:09,520
malinformation?
994
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,000
Now, I'm editing on the fly.
995
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:17,240
To your question, the term malinformation was coined to describe information that Facebook
996
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:22,120
and Twitter and the other social media sites understood was true, but that the White House
997
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:26,800
and other federal agencies wanted censored anyway for political reasons because it challenged
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00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:27,800
official orthodoxies.
999
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,280
That, I think, is probably the most important thing that came out of the hearing was just
1000
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:39,120
the highlighting of malinformation as a concept because that is the ratcheting up.
1001
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:44,020
You had disinformation, which came out of the KGB.
1002
00:58:44,020 --> 00:58:48,120
They invented the tactic of disinformation or lying.
1003
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:52,400
They didn't invent lying, they just, they invented the name.
1004
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:57,460
And then misinformation, which is people passing along inaccurate information.
1005
00:58:57,460 --> 00:59:01,180
They don't realize they're doing it, but that's what makes it misinformation.
1006
00:59:01,180 --> 00:59:05,240
It's like accidental passing of disinformation.
1007
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:11,680
And now they've invented something new called malinformation, which is information that's
1008
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:12,720
accurate.
1009
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:19,640
It's true, but it's disruptive to, I guess, national tranquility, peace and tranquility,
1010
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:26,580
contrary to national interests, against national security.
1011
00:59:26,580 --> 00:59:31,180
So people should just, I think, keep their ears open for malinformation.
1012
00:59:31,180 --> 00:59:34,040
We're going to get more of that.
1013
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:39,560
I think that's about as Orwellian as I've seen it get.
1014
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:45,060
Are you guilty of malinformation, Jeremy?
1015
00:59:45,060 --> 00:59:51,360
You mean just information that's dangerous, but true?
1016
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:52,360
Dangerous to the powers of the V.
1017
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:53,360
Yes, I'm guilty.
1018
00:59:53,360 --> 01:00:04,100
Yeah, so I think people need to keep their eyes open for the possibility that Kennedy
1019
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:10,760
is not what he is appearing to be.
1020
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,120
I think he is.
1021
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:20,440
I think I'm giving him room.
1022
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:26,920
I'm going to give him room to...
1023
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,160
How should I say it?
1024
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:32,400
To dump his stock in all the green tech that he has?
1025
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,400
Yeah.
1026
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,460
Yeah, give him room for that because I bet that's coming real soon.
1027
01:00:37,460 --> 01:00:40,200
I think it'll be interesting to see.
1028
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,080
He's a fascist, Jeremy.
1029
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:43,080
He's a fascist.
1030
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:49,160
He will use the government to destroy private enterprise he doesn't agree with.
1031
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:54,560
That's all I'm saying.
1032
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:55,560
You heard it here first.
1033
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,840
And that's why you're tuning into the Truthbait Podcast.
1034
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:08,040
That's right, ladies and gentlemen, we've arrived at that point in the podcast where
1035
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,880
we tell you how it is we make this all possible.
1036
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:16,000
We use something called the Value for Value model, and it's quite simple.
1037
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:21,360
You've just listened to an hour of this podcast, this amazing debate back and forth between
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01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,880
Jeremy and myself on RFK.
1039
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,480
Junior, is he fascist?
1040
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:27,480
Is he not?
1041
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:28,880
Do you find value in this conversation?
1042
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,280
If you do, we ask you return value to the podcast.
1043
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,160
And there are a number of different ways to return value to the podcast.
1044
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,480
Jeremy, do you want to tell them how they can do it?
1045
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:44,960
Well, they can start by sharing the show, which is critical.
1046
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,880
They can also rate the show.
1047
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:53,160
They can volunteer to help the show.
1048
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:58,120
We asked in the last episode, if anybody out there listens to the show while they're sitting
1049
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:05,680
at a computer, that would be somebody that could maybe help to pull or record their favorite
1050
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:12,720
clips of particular episodes, be able to use those and share those around as promotional
1051
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,940
content for the show.
1052
01:02:14,940 --> 01:02:21,240
Those are just some ways that can be extremely helpful.
1053
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,720
Sunday Knows Content, too.
1054
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:32,240
That really is one of the major sources of value coming back towards the show that has
1055
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,640
really been exciting to watch.
1056
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:40,120
People writing in, producers writing in with content that they're finding.
1057
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:47,560
Did you see Jeff from Elkhorn has been sending us...
1058
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:52,400
He's got a story he's working on, I think.
1059
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:53,400
Did you see that?
1060
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:54,800
Did you see it come across the email?
1061
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,680
I think I did see it come across.
1062
01:02:58,680 --> 01:02:59,680
Let's see.
1063
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,120
He wrote in...
1064
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:07,440
He's writing in about this film from Grace Productions called The Essential Church.
1065
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:13,080
It is confirmed in 170 theaters, maybe more by now, because that was a couple of days
1066
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,080
ago.
1067
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,040
I've never heard of this movie before.
1068
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,680
It's at EssentialChurchMovie.com.
1069
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,880
He wrote 40 minutes in and it's excellent.
1070
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,320
I will offer thoughts after I've heard the entire podcast.
1071
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,000
Oh, wait, he's talking about us.
1072
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,000
Sorry.
1073
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,000
I thought he was talking about the film.
1074
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,760
I was wondering how did he watch the film so fast?
1075
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,360
Well, thank you for that compliment.
1076
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:42,760
I'd ask you both to consider seeing the movie documentary being released soon and being
1077
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:51,280
screened at our church, Essential Church Movie, and then he sends in the trailer.
1078
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:56,440
And let me just play a couple of minutes, a couple seconds of this.
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01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:01,280
God's truth is enduringly true throughout all the generations.
1080
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,560
It transcends culture.
1081
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:08,880
The church is always going to be an embattled people.
1082
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,760
If it's swimming with the tide, it's not being the church of Jesus Christ.
1083
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:19,200
Look to the past, learn from the past, because the whole world lies in the power of the evil
1084
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:20,200
one.
1085
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:24,200
China has more than 200 confirmed cases of coronavirus, it's called.
1086
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,280
The entire state of California ordered to stay at home.
1087
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,480
California has some of the strictest policies leveled against churches.
1088
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:35,320
We have a Newsom's executive order, threatens jail time and a thousand dollar a day fine.
1089
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,520
Government stopping people from going to church, Dr. Fauci.
1090
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:43,600
When I went into the White House, when I sat in on the task force meetings, was a shocking
1091
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,720
level of gross incompetence.
1092
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:52,040
Mortality rate from the virus was 0.2%, you know, 99.8% survival, rather than the 3 or
1093
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,720
4% mortality that the people were saying at the time.
1094
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,440
The culture and the understanding of the people of Grace Church has always been, not only
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01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,960
do you obey government, but you honor government.
1096
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,440
Thousands of people in the streets, but you can't have church.
1097
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:11,720
The hypocrisy of letting people riot helped us all understand one thing, this is not what
1098
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:12,720
they say it is.
1099
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:18,800
By me, so, we'll stop it there, that was about halfway through the trailer.
1100
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:19,920
It sounds interesting.
1101
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:25,920
I don't know, you know, this is the thing with films like this, will it speak outside
1102
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,720
the bubble, you know, or is it only going to speak to the bubble?
1103
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:35,440
And it's fine if it's a film that only speaks to the bubble, but, you know.
1104
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:44,280
I am slightly familiar with the film, I had seen the trailer.
1105
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:50,640
I know it's featuring John MacArthur, who's a pastor that I listen to regularly.
1106
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:59,840
And if you recall, he successfully sued the, I think Los Angeles County and State of California
1107
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:04,800
or whatever when they were trying to shut down his church and threatening him with arrest.
1108
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,000
He's got a pretty big church out there.
1109
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:08,000
And he won.
1110
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:12,360
He basically took a stand and said, we're not going to close and we're going to stay
1111
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,240
open and he won.
1112
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:18,280
And he won like $800,000 or something too.
1113
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:31,400
Like he won money, not just the right to stay and continue to conduct worship services.
1114
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:38,040
I think it probably is an important film for people to see.
1115
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,200
I agree with you.
1116
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:46,880
I think it's most likely a film that speaks to the echo chamber.
1117
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:53,160
And, you know, I don't mean that in a negative way when I say bubble or you say echo chamber.
1118
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:54,320
No, and that's right.
1119
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,920
I mean, it's a style of film.
1120
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,980
And some people will call this film a documentary style film.
1121
01:07:01,980 --> 01:07:04,680
We have kind of gotten away from calling it.
1122
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,840
I don't know exactly what they get into.
1123
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:07,840
That's the thing.
1124
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,760
Is it just a bunch of talking heads?
1125
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:18,080
And the way the trailer looks, it looks like it's a lot of interviews and then interspersed
1126
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:24,760
with some news footage or clips of riots or things that were going on during the time
1127
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,600
of COVID.
1128
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:31,800
It'll be interesting to see because supposedly they get, I did read that they get into the
1129
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:38,340
story of MacArthur and then this pastor up in Canada who was put in jail.
1130
01:07:38,340 --> 01:07:43,000
And then I think there's a third maybe in Scotland or something like that.
1131
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:44,840
And or New Zealand.
1132
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,200
I don't know which one, because there was one in New Zealand, I think that was getting
1133
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:48,200
threatened with jail.
1134
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:49,200
That's good.
1135
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:50,200
International film.
1136
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,920
International film.
1137
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:59,960
So like, did those guys, like, did MacArthur have a camera crew on him, like, while he
1138
01:07:59,960 --> 01:08:07,440
was doing his lawsuits and while he was basically not, you know, following the government orders
1139
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:13,960
where you've got a real documentary style film where you're, you know, in the action
1140
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:15,360
with him?
1141
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:20,400
Or is it basically all reflecting back on what happened?
1142
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,560
And retrospective is fine.
1143
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,320
And sometimes it's all you have.
1144
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,400
It's just a different kind of film.
1145
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:32,800
And this film, it looks like it's probably more not that, it looks like it's probably
1146
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,880
more like an informational advocacy.
1147
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,160
Like I said, it is a United film.
1148
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:38,160
Right.
1149
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,340
Like an advocacy type film that doesn't make it bad.
1150
01:08:41,340 --> 01:08:44,840
It doesn't make it unimportant.
1151
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:53,640
It can take away from what we often look for or try to do ourselves is to incorporate,
1152
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:57,040
you know, an entertainment factor.
1153
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:58,200
Human story.
1154
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,040
Human story with an arc, a narrative arc.
1155
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:02,040
Right.
1156
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:07,720
And you can't go around a story that is bad or negative or dark or scary.
1157
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:12,960
Doesn't mean all of the, you can, is there storytelling in there?
1158
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:18,600
Like did you follow the characters through the events as they were unfolding?
1159
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:23,920
It's hard for a lot of filmmakers to do because oftentimes you don't know, you know, about
1160
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,480
things going on until they've already gone on.
1161
01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:27,480
Right.
1162
01:09:27,480 --> 01:09:29,980
Well, you know, and you can't go back in time.
1163
01:09:29,980 --> 01:09:31,760
It's a lot of it's about structure though.
1164
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,620
Is there a protagonist?
1165
01:09:33,620 --> 01:09:36,960
And I don't mean is there a main subject.
1166
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:41,040
I mean, is there, like in Dinesh D'Souza's film, doesn't matter what film he's doing,
1167
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,640
does not matter what the topic is.
1168
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,500
He is the protagonist.
1169
01:09:44,500 --> 01:09:46,720
Same for Michael Moore.
1170
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,840
He was the protagonist of every single film.
1171
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,960
It's a narrative device.
1172
01:09:50,960 --> 01:10:00,600
And a lot of films like Citizens United films, they don't make effective use of a protagonist
1173
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,680
and an antagonist.
1174
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,120
Basic narrative storytelling techniques.
1175
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,120
Right.
1176
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:14,680
And they end up basically being, you know, for the most part, informational content,
1177
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:21,860
which does not make it bad or unimportant, but it does tend, I think, and you probably
1178
01:10:21,860 --> 01:10:28,160
agree with me, it does tend to limit the audience potential.
1179
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:29,160
Yes.
1180
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,560
Well, you're not going to change anybody's mind.
1181
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:35,720
You're just going to reinforce and clarify for people who already agree with you, which
1182
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:43,960
yeah, again, Citizens United was of great utility inside the movement.
1183
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,620
It galvanized a lot of people.
1184
01:10:45,620 --> 01:10:48,800
It helped them understand what was going on.
1185
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:54,320
It just, it was, you know, in terms of what we find interesting about filmmaking, which
1186
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:58,760
is outside of politics, outside of, you know, outside of any of that, it's what do we like
1187
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,680
in terms of filmmaking, storytelling?
1188
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,600
That's, you know, so will it succeed that way?
1189
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:09,680
I'd be, I'm very curious to know, and I'm looking forward to, he wrote today, he says,
1190
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,440
okay, this to me is a bigger story than Sound of Freedom.
1191
01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:16,440
This is, Jeff and Elkhorn wrote this.
1192
01:11:16,440 --> 01:11:17,920
This is a bigger story than Sound of Freedom.
1193
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:21,040
I'll try to get a lengthier response to you later this weekend.
1194
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,260
So Jeff and Elkhorn, thank you for writing.
1195
01:11:24,260 --> 01:11:25,760
You are a fantastic producer.
1196
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:33,160
I look forward to your more in-depth report on this film.
1197
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,080
Absolutely.
1198
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,120
I plan on seeing it.
1199
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:44,720
You know, I don't know if I'm going to see it at a pre-screening this weekend or something
1200
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:53,640
different, but you know, because it hits my community and the church community.
1201
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:54,640
That's what it's about.
1202
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,240
It's important.
1203
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:04,400
And I think too, even if it is just an informational type film, there's probably a lot of information
1204
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:05,400
that you never heard.
1205
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,240
Well, why is it going into theaters, Jeremy?
1206
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,640
Why is it going into theaters?
1207
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,360
Why are they doing that?
1208
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:15,920
Is that just a promotional thing?
1209
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:21,120
Because you're talking about an audience who have largely given up going to the theaters,
1210
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:22,840
haven't you?
1211
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:23,840
I don't know.
1212
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:34,200
It must be a marketing thing to try to trigger press.
1213
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:41,480
Maybe if they get it, like you've talked about four-walling strategies before and getting
1214
01:12:41,480 --> 01:12:45,940
into a certain number of theaters where you're going to end up triggering automatic press
1215
01:12:45,940 --> 01:12:52,960
coverage that way, which is going to create, you know, maybe that's their path toward trying
1216
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,400
to open up to a larger audience.
1217
01:12:55,400 --> 01:13:02,400
Well, all the more reason it needs to be a good narrative, entertaining, entertaining
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narrative.
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01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:08,920
When you go into the theaters, people are coming with the expectation of being entertained,
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01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,040
even when they're coming to see something serious or important.
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01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,040
They expect to be entertaining.
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01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:24,000
But entertaining doesn't mean like comedic or horror or adventure.
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01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:29,620
Entertaining is, if you're watching a really good, one of my favorite documentaries I've
1224
01:13:29,620 --> 01:13:32,760
ever seen is called Magnus.
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01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,520
Oh, sorry.
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01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:36,520
And Hating Breitbart.
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01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,760
It's the same kind of film.
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01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:39,760
It's the same kind of film.
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01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:40,760
Well, I stepped on the name of the film.
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01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:42,760
What did you say it was?
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01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:48,960
Magnus, and it's about Magnus Olsen, who's been the number one chess player in the world
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01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:50,600
for like a decade now.
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01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:55,800
And he might not be right now at this moment, but he's anyone that plays chess knows who
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01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,540
Magnus Olsen is.
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01:13:57,540 --> 01:14:06,480
And his dad started recognized at a young age that his son, Magnus, was clearly going
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01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:09,440
to accelerate in chess.
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01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:14,880
And he had him in chess tournaments like three, four years old, and he was filming all of
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01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,720
it.
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01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:21,240
And he has this guy's life documented.
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01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:26,920
You know, there's video footage of all the big chess matches he plays, but not just the
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01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:27,920
match.
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01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:32,160
He's got the footage of him being nervous in the hotel room before the match.
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01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:38,200
He's got the footage of him at the pool trying to unwind with his family and get rid of the,
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01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:44,240
alleviate from the stress that he's under to perform against Garry Kasparov, you know,
1245
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:45,240
as a 13 year old.
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01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:50,000
The nitty gritty of humanity that everyone can relate to.
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01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:59,000
That creates this dramatic tension and energy as you're watching the events unfold that
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01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:04,680
is different than if you just interviewed all the top chess players in the world talking
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01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,560
about what a great chess player Magnus is, right?
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01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:15,040
Or read, or read, or read, right, or reliving how scared they were to play him or whatever.
1251
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:22,120
Those stories might be interesting to hear, but it just doesn't come across the screen
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01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:27,320
the same way as when you feel like you're in the car with him.
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01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:34,160
And so that, I think that's, that, when you say entertaining, you know, entertaining doesn't
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01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:40,520
necessarily mean special effects, but it, but it has a story.
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01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:48,640
It has a narrative story that you as the viewer becomes connected to or attached to.
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01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:54,800
You start to find things about that character that even if you don't like the character,
1257
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:59,760
he becomes humanized in a way in which you can identify with him.
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01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:07,120
And even so like, you know, he does something like he likes dessert a lot and you like dessert
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01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:08,120
a lot.
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01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,480
So that becomes a thing that connects you to him.
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01:16:11,480 --> 01:16:16,040
And then it becomes a completely different experience as you watch the events of the
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01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:19,040
movie unfold.
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01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:22,960
So I think, you know, I don't know if that's going to be the case in this film.
1264
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,360
Well, but there are 170 theaters.
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01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,880
They have a huge opportunity.
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01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:33,160
If they are, they have a huge opportunity to cross over and reach a lot of people with
1267
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:38,080
their message that they might not already meet, that they might not get it anyways.
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01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,480
And they, it could change hearts.
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01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:44,200
They have a real opportunity to open minds, open hearts.
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01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:50,200
And if it is just an informational film, it's a gigantic blown opportunity.
1271
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,760
If it's a good story, then it's a great opportunity.
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01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,740
And you'll know whether or not they last.
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01:16:55,740 --> 01:16:59,520
If they're gone after the first week, then you'll know it was no good.
1274
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:03,040
Because even if it triggers a lot of media and a lot of coverage and a lot of people
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01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:09,720
see it, those people are probably going to be people that already agree with the point
1276
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,320
that, that they're trying to make.
1277
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:16,480
And again, that doesn't make it bad.
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01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:17,480
It does.
1279
01:17:17,480 --> 01:17:24,240
It's not that that's not worth doing, but it could be, you know, I don't know, different
1280
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:25,720
ways of making different movies.
1281
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:31,920
I think it is why Sound of Freedom is doing so well because they, you know, they, while
1282
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:40,800
I think they manufactured the ground swell that helped give the film lift off, it worked
1283
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,080
because it was a good, it's a good story.
1284
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:45,800
It's a, it's dramatic.
1285
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,240
It does exactly what you're talking about.
1286
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:55,440
You connect emotionally with the characters on screen and it's, it's harder to do that.
1287
01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:56,440
It's different.
1288
01:17:56,440 --> 01:17:58,320
It's a different approach when it's documentary.
1289
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,440
Actually, I don't know that it's harder.
1290
01:18:00,440 --> 01:18:02,440
It takes longer.
1291
01:18:02,440 --> 01:18:05,480
And your takes longer, it costs more money.
1292
01:18:05,480 --> 01:18:07,200
Well, you're a slave to the truth.
1293
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:11,640
You have to, you have to look for where it actually exists, where those connectable moments
1294
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:12,640
actually exist.
1295
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:18,000
And you have to know how to identify them when they're happening in front of you.
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01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,280
But it's the same idea.
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01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:24,680
You've got to create those moments where the viewer connects in a way that is not informational.
1298
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:25,680
It's emotional.
1299
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,840
And a way that, right.
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01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:32,840
What you would do if you and I were directing this film, we would want, and I'm not saying
1301
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:37,200
they haven't done this, but what we would want to do is we would want to be able to
1302
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:44,640
get people who hate John MacArthur to somehow see his softer side.
1303
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:45,640
Yes.
1304
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:55,040
And somehow through a joke he tells in a car ride or something where maybe he's nervous
1305
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:59,380
on his way to court, and anybody would be nervous on their way to court.
1306
01:18:59,380 --> 01:19:05,640
So then anybody that's watching that, even if they don't like him, can get connected
1307
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,160
to him in that way.
1308
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,480
There becomes a human connection to the character that way.
1309
01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:13,700
And then they're emotionally invested in it.
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01:19:13,700 --> 01:19:18,280
So that when they're in the courtroom and he wins, even if they thought all the churches
1311
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:22,160
should be closed, they feel good about him winning.
1312
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:23,160
Right.
1313
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:24,160
Exactly.
1314
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,720
I'm giving you a bell for that one.
1315
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:27,720
Thank you.
1316
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:28,720
Yes.
1317
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:29,720
Once you've connected with...
1318
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:33,440
I've redeemed myself from my blind support of Kennedy, have I?
1319
01:19:33,440 --> 01:19:39,080
Your delusional support of Kennedy.
1320
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:43,440
You are always redeemed in my eyes, my friend.
1321
01:19:43,440 --> 01:19:44,440
So yes, look forward to...
1322
01:19:44,440 --> 01:19:46,440
I'm moved by my savior.
1323
01:19:46,440 --> 01:19:47,440
Don't call me that.
1324
01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:53,540
I look forward to the report from Jeff.
1325
01:19:53,540 --> 01:19:56,840
We should also mention Al in Joliet.
1326
01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:03,840
Executive producer Al has sent in a bunch of amazing stuff, one of which is...
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01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,400
And we should make sure to close out the Ask segment.
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01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,800
Write us at truthatruthbait.com.
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01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:15,120
That is the best way to get a hold of us, share the show.
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01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:22,440
And I wanted to close it out because this is a difficult story.
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01:20:22,440 --> 01:20:31,120
Al sent us the story of Brittany Pearson, who is a surrogate.
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01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:38,760
And I know you probably have opinions on surrogacy, pregnancy surrogacy.
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01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:42,880
Two men hired Brittany Pearson to create their, quote, dream family.
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01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,020
This is from Lila Rose on her Twitter thread.
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01:20:46,020 --> 01:20:52,560
By the end of the process, a 25-week-old baby was murdered.
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01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:57,320
She writes, while pregnant, Brittany received a breast cancer diagnosis and decided to deliver
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01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:03,340
the baby early at 25 weeks so she could receive chemo treatment while giving the child a possible
1338
01:21:03,340 --> 01:21:05,340
chance of survival.
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01:21:05,340 --> 01:21:10,800
But the purchasing couple didn't want to pay Brittany for a baby born before 38 weeks
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01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:14,920
due to the potential health problems of the premature baby.
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01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:19,680
They demanded the baby be immediately terminated.
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01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:24,220
When Brittany refused to kill the baby, they threatened legal action.
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01:21:24,220 --> 01:21:29,800
When she offered to adopt the child, they demanded a death certificate.
1344
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:35,300
Surrogacy laws in California give no rights to Brittany or the baby.
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01:21:35,300 --> 01:21:41,880
She was able to deliver the baby at 25 weeks, but the purchasing couple had, quote, ownership
1346
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,820
of the child after birth.
1347
01:21:44,820 --> 01:21:49,560
The baby boy died shortly after birth.
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01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:54,640
From the moment of conception, he was stripped of his fundamental rights and treated as a
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01:21:54,640 --> 01:22:07,800
product that could be, actually it got cut off on my page there, treated like a product.
1350
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:16,160
I went and I found an interview that she gave, this is just a few days ago.
1351
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,160
Let's listen to Brittany.
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01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:22,400
And then instantly, like with my OB, I was like, I want to continue this pregnancy.
1353
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:26,200
I want to do whatever I can do to make sure that baby is okay.
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01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:30,800
And like to save us both basically was my main goal.
1355
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:34,800
Their goal was to get me to with the four-
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01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:40,680
She's talking about the people that had hired her.
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01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:46,160
Their goal was to get me to with the four different chemo treatments would get me to
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01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:47,240
34 weeks and then-
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01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,640
I'm sorry, no, when she's talking about the goal, she's talking about how far along she
1360
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:55,260
was hoping to get before she would deliver the baby.
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01:22:55,260 --> 01:22:59,080
We would take a few weeks to let my body recover and then we would deliver.
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01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,200
So it really would be like 36.
1363
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:02,200
So almost filter.
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01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,200
And they still, they weren't okay with that.
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01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:09,480
They wanted nothing earlier than 39 weeks, no matter what, which you can't even guarantee
1366
01:23:09,480 --> 01:23:12,440
that when there's no cancer involved.
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01:23:12,440 --> 01:23:17,040
When there's nothing else, you still can't guarantee a 39 week delivery anyway.
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01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:22,180
They just started threatening like lawsuits and like, Oh, did you guys know she had cancer
1369
01:23:22,180 --> 01:23:23,880
or how she had cancer before?
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01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:28,480
They started coming up with all these questions of stuff that were like, I didn't expect because
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01:23:28,480 --> 01:23:31,600
we had a good relationship before this.
1372
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:37,920
Well, that's the risk I think that you take in this kind of a situation.
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01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:42,880
It's why it's illegal in a lot of places around the world.
1374
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:47,640
And instantly they were just like, we want to terminate, that's it.
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01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:49,280
That's the only conversation they would have.
1376
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,880
They're like terminate, that's it.
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01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:57,440
And my OB tried, the attorneys tried, we all tried, I tried my agency.
1378
01:23:57,440 --> 01:23:59,440
It was just, they're like, absolutely not.
1379
01:23:59,440 --> 01:24:00,840
We don't want that.
1380
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:02,760
We want the baby terminated.
1381
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:08,480
And was it part of your contract that you had to terminate if they, if they wanted you
1382
01:24:08,480 --> 01:24:09,480
to or?
1383
01:24:09,480 --> 01:24:10,480
No.
1384
01:24:10,480 --> 01:24:16,040
So in the contract, basically what it said was I had full control over my body.
1385
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:19,120
So basically while he's inside of me, I had a hundred percent control.
1386
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:24,480
The minute that he is born, the parents have a hundred percent control.
1387
01:24:24,480 --> 01:24:25,640
Right.
1388
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:27,920
I started meds to induce labor.
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01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:32,880
I had him 4 a.m. or 4 15 ish that Sunday Father's Day.
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01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:34,960
I didn't hold him.
1391
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,360
I looked at him and they gave me pictures and like a box of stuff.
1392
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:39,800
My mom held him.
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01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:43,280
So he, so he was, you know, cared for and loved a little bit.
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01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:49,440
I don't know how much that means to most people, but he was, he was held and wrapped up and
1395
01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:54,400
swaddled and he, he didn't, he didn't make it.
1396
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,180
Obviously he's not alive, but.
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01:24:56,180 --> 01:25:00,840
So he was born alive but not giving, not giving the life saving measures.
1398
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:08,480
They, yeah, I just don't want to, I don't want to go too much into detail on the actual
1399
01:25:08,480 --> 01:25:13,520
part of that, but he, he was held and cared for and loved for a short amount of time before
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01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,400
they took him.
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01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:29,280
So the baby was born premature, but certainly in many instances these days viable.
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01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:38,320
And because the surrogacy laws in California grant the purchasers, it's unbelievable that
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01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:41,800
it's, that's pretty much how it's looked at.
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01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:51,720
They have full rights and in California you actually have the right to deny life saving
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01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:57,200
care to the baby and let it die.
1406
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:03,960
Essentially a post birth abortion or more accurately termed murder.
1407
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,960
It's murder.
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01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:16,280
I think it's important to note that the couple is a gay couple, two men.
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01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:21,280
And the reason that I think that that's important to note is because clearly in the decision
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01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:30,320
making process here there was zero maternal instinct going on, present in what they were
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01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:31,880
doing.
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01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:38,240
It sounds like, you know, as the world turns, maybe we'll find out that the story is the
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01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,080
exact opposite of what we think.
1414
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:47,440
But at first blush, looking at this, this looks like the logical result of progressive
1415
01:26:47,440 --> 01:26:57,400
policies that cheapen human life and allow a baby to die, preventing it from having life
1416
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,960
saving care, life support.
1417
01:26:59,960 --> 01:27:09,840
Because it's just going to be too much trouble.
1418
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,560
That's one of the sickest stories I've ever heard.
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01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:13,560
Right.
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01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:18,520
That's why I wanted to end the ask section so that we were in a different, a different
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01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:24,240
segment that demarcated how ugly this story was.
1422
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:25,240
Last sound bite from her.
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01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:30,160
It's, I don't want to say ironic because it's not funny in any way, but the baby was born
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01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,600
on Father's Day morning at 4am.
1425
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:37,080
So it's like Father's Day the rest of their life, you know, they're going to have to think
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01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:38,080
about their baby.
1427
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:40,880
That's the day their baby was born.
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01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:45,120
If they even still think of it as a baby, they kept calling it a fetus.
1429
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:46,920
Every appointment they just say the fetus, the fetus.
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01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:51,280
And even every doctor, like, yeah, the baby, because it's a baby, it's 25 weeks.
1431
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:56,760
Like it's a viable child, you know, when it's born.
1432
01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:01,180
They struggled to find a hospital where she could give birth to the baby because the couple
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01:28:01,180 --> 01:28:07,880
were threatening to sue every institution that they were trying to go avoid an abortion
1434
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,680
at and try to give birth.
1435
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,640
California.
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01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:21,880
Well, they are going to face the Creator someday.
1437
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:26,040
And God has a plan that is good.
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01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:35,720
And even in horrible stories like that, God's plan and God's will is good.
1439
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:42,400
And so even when it's hard to see or know what it is he's doing, that's what I
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01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:43,400
trust.
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01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:44,400
I trust that.
1442
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,360
I just trust it.
1443
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:54,320
That's what my faith is in that there's some greater good he was working there.
1444
01:28:54,320 --> 01:29:03,540
And who knows, maybe that's part of people hearing that story that could change people's
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01:29:03,540 --> 01:29:04,540
minds in the future.
1446
01:29:04,540 --> 01:29:07,960
Yeah, perhaps wake some people up, huh?
1447
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,880
You know, I don't know.
1448
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:11,880
I don't know what it is.
1449
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:21,320
I certainly can't begin to read God's mind, but I do trust without a doubt that his plan
1450
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:29,440
and his will is good and all the bad that we have in this world to deal with.
1451
01:29:29,440 --> 01:29:32,960
That interview was with Ali Bestucky.
1452
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:37,600
Yeah, I recognized her voice.
1453
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,000
And I had heard some other people mention that to me.
1454
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:43,280
I didn't want to go without saying who that was.
1455
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:46,720
Yeah, ugly story.
1456
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:51,560
Alan also sent in something else, which is not quite so ugly.
1457
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:55,560
Well, it depends on your, I guess it depends on your point of view.
1458
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:59,440
You know the rapper, is it for Giotto?
1459
01:29:59,440 --> 01:30:02,840
For Giotto Blow, aka the mayor of Moggaville.
1460
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:09,920
You may not know him by name, but you'll probably recognize this if I play it for you.
1461
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:17,520
Yeah, I saw this.
1462
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:35,640
You know where I'm going with this?
1463
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:40,760
This is...
1464
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:56,000
Here, let me play it.
1465
01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:10,720
Have you seen the video?
1466
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:11,720
I did.
1467
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:12,720
Okay.
1468
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:13,720
She is...
1469
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:18,640
Let me tell you why I watched it.
1470
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:27,880
I watched it for validation of all of my opinions about Empty Green.
1471
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:33,960
Don't you think it's edgy that she's up on the car like you would traditionally see in
1472
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,080
a rap video?
1473
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:37,440
She would be in a bikini.
1474
01:31:37,440 --> 01:31:38,440
She's not in a bikini.
1475
01:31:38,440 --> 01:31:40,760
She's in a very short skirt.
1476
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:47,960
She's like one of those babes in a rap video with dollar bills being thrown at her while
1477
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:49,840
she twerks.
1478
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:52,680
This sealed the deal for me.
1479
01:31:52,680 --> 01:32:03,560
I mean, eliminated 100% any doubt I might have had about my opinions about her being
1480
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,400
a total fraud.
1481
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:06,400
She likes Kennedy.
1482
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:11,400
I like Kennedy.
1483
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:15,080
The only reason she likes Kennedy is to scare people away from him.
1484
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:16,080
I don't know that she likes Kennedy.
1485
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:19,080
I just jam it in.
1486
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:22,680
Well, that would be why.
1487
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:23,680
Yeah.
1488
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:25,680
So, thank you, Alan.
1489
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:27,920
Good stuff.
1490
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:32,680
I watched that and I was just like, wow.
1491
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:34,020
She looks terrible in it.
1492
01:32:34,020 --> 01:32:35,720
She looks confused.
1493
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:37,400
She doesn't even know where she's supposed to be.
1494
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:42,160
She's just standing there awkwardly.
1495
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:45,720
You just can't redo...
1496
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:49,680
You can't reinvent the Super Bowl shuffle.
1497
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:50,680
Yeah.
1498
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,560
Is that what they're trying to do here?
1499
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,360
Do you remember the Super Bowl shuffle?
1500
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:56,720
I wish I'd known you were going to bring that up.
1501
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:58,680
Now I've got to go look for it.
1502
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:06,560
The 1985 Bears, they were so good and they were so arrogant and cocky and they all had
1503
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:08,200
personalities.
1504
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:16,240
And then they made this 80s rap R&B song that was like...
1505
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:20,800
Oh my gosh.
1506
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:24,200
They're all up on stage in their...
1507
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,040
I have the 45.
1508
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:27,040
I have the 45.
1509
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:28,040
You have the 45.
1510
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:29,040
Yeah.
1511
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:30,040
I have the 45 record.
1512
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:31,040
That's great.
1513
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:42,920
And I used to listen to that every day, all day.
1514
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:45,520
It was the biggest thing.
1515
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:50,200
We performed it at the school sing, like the spring sing.
1516
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:51,200
Wait a second.
1517
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:52,200
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
1518
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,760
A bunch of white kids?
1519
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,360
Bunch of white kids wearing football jerseys.
1520
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:59,160
A bunch of white Jews?
1521
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:00,160
Yep.
1522
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:01,160
I can't say.
1523
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:04,160
That was like 99%.
1524
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:09,600
Listen, I did my own fair share of break dancing at Bar Mitzvahs when I was a kid.
1525
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:10,600
Yeah.
1526
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,200
And it was huge.
1527
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:14,200
Wasn't it like a gold record?
1528
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:15,200
I mean, it went huge.
1529
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:16,200
Yes.
1530
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:17,200
It was huge.
1531
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:18,200
It was perfectly timed.
1532
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:19,200
It was well marketed.
1533
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:20,200
Yes.
1534
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:21,200
It was enormous.
1535
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:25,920
It was huge.
1536
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:34,000
There are always politicians now or media people, they'll go and they'll do things to get attention
1537
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:35,000
or whatever.
1538
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:39,720
And sometimes they're mildly successful.
1539
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:43,720
To me, they're all like an attempt at redoing the Super Bowl shuffle.
1540
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:47,160
I'm doing something that you would never normally expect me to do.
1541
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:48,640
I'm getting into a rap video.
1542
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:49,640
Here, wait, let's compare them.
1543
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:52,640
Because they were like the first team that they were-
1544
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:56,920
Okay, now let's listen to MTG.
1545
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,920
You're right.
1546
01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:15,680
It's the same thing.
1547
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:29,700
The problem is you cannot outdo the 85 Bears and you cannot outdo the Super Bowl shuffle.
1548
01:35:29,700 --> 01:35:30,700
You're empty green.
1549
01:35:30,700 --> 01:35:33,200
You're Marjorie Taylor green.
1550
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:35,840
You're not a rapper.
1551
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:36,840
You're not a rapper.
1552
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:40,920
And by the way, nobody wants you to be a rapper.
1553
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:43,820
I don't need Congress people.
1554
01:35:43,820 --> 01:35:52,920
People are supposed to be statesmen going and basically being a joke.
1555
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,000
Well, hold on a second.
1556
01:35:55,000 --> 01:36:01,280
Let me just hold you up right there because we've all seen the glorious footage of Donald
1557
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:06,880
Trump at the WWE or WWF or whatever they're calling themselves now.
1558
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:08,000
Wrestling.
1559
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:09,880
He was a bad guy wrestler.
1560
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:10,880
Yeah.
1561
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:12,600
Is he still?
1562
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,680
I think that's what she's trying to emulate.
1563
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:18,520
She's trying to be bad brand, dark Brandon.
1564
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:22,080
She's trying to be dark empty.
1565
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:23,720
She is, but it doesn't work.
1566
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:27,400
All you end up looking like is a white girl in a rap video.
1567
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:28,400
I agree with you.
1568
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,520
It ain't working in this case.
1569
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:33,560
She's failing miserably in this.
1570
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:42,140
Trump doing WWE was prior to his career as a president of the United States.
1571
01:36:42,140 --> 01:36:44,360
He's not doing that now.
1572
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:45,360
And I don't like that either.
1573
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:47,080
It's stupid too.
1574
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:48,600
But he was an entertainer.
1575
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:50,400
The guy was an entertainer.
1576
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:51,400
Right.
1577
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:52,400
Exactly.
1578
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:53,400
She is not.
1579
01:36:53,400 --> 01:37:01,320
I mean, she's supposed to be the politician coming in and getting serious in DC.
1580
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:05,560
You know, and oh yeah, what was this for?
1581
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:07,960
Celebrating impeachment week that never did anything productive?
1582
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:08,960
Right.
1583
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:09,960
Exactly.
1584
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:10,960
I have no idea.
1585
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:16,880
I think it's a bad look for the rapper, for Giotto.
1586
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:19,720
He looks like a sellout now.
1587
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:21,600
It's a bad look for her.
1588
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:23,720
It's just the whole fit.
1589
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:27,360
She's in that weird satanic throne.
1590
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:28,800
She doesn't look comfortable there.
1591
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:30,880
Trump would look comfortable in any setting like this.
1592
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,560
Trump would have no problem pulling this off.
1593
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:36,160
Plus he has good dance moves.
1594
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:37,160
Right.
1595
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:38,160
That's what I'm saying.
1596
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:43,600
He would make himself at home in any of these situations and he would fit in.
1597
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:44,600
In his Trump way.
1598
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:45,600
Doesn't she look...
1599
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:47,520
She doesn't.
1600
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:53,440
She kind of has this look on her face like, should I really have listened to Milo?
1601
01:37:53,440 --> 01:37:54,440
What am I doing here?
1602
01:37:54,440 --> 01:37:55,440
Tell me.
1603
01:37:55,440 --> 01:37:56,440
Tell me to do this.
1604
01:37:56,440 --> 01:37:57,440
This is a very Milo move.
1605
01:37:57,440 --> 01:37:59,440
I think Milo might have been behind this.
1606
01:37:59,440 --> 01:38:00,440
Right.
1607
01:38:00,440 --> 01:38:01,440
She might still be listening to Milo.
1608
01:38:01,440 --> 01:38:02,440
Is that what you're saying?
1609
01:38:02,440 --> 01:38:03,440
She's still listening to Milo?
1610
01:38:03,440 --> 01:38:04,440
Yes.
1611
01:38:04,440 --> 01:38:05,440
Yes.
1612
01:38:05,440 --> 01:38:06,440
Totally.
1613
01:38:06,440 --> 01:38:07,440
I'm a little slow to catch up, but yeah, I think you're right.
1614
01:38:07,440 --> 01:38:08,440
I'm giving you another bell.
1615
01:38:08,440 --> 01:38:09,440
This is a Milo move.
1616
01:38:09,440 --> 01:38:10,440
Yeah.
1617
01:38:10,440 --> 01:38:11,440
Thank you, Alan.
1618
01:38:11,440 --> 01:38:12,440
Keep it coming.
1619
01:38:12,440 --> 01:38:13,440
Alan Joliet, everybody.
1620
01:38:13,440 --> 01:38:14,440
I'm going to play...
1621
01:38:14,440 --> 01:38:15,440
I'm going to put my tinfoil hat on here.
1622
01:38:15,440 --> 01:38:16,440
I want to shift gears and go a little bit conspiracy theory.
1623
01:38:16,440 --> 01:38:44,880
So, you know, we've talked in the past on this show about my theory that it's possible
1624
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:48,640
that China was behind 9-11.
1625
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:54,920
And the main motivation for them was to drive a long-term wedge between the United States
1626
01:38:54,920 --> 01:39:03,000
and Saudi Arabia, which the way that that was executed did exactly that, as a means
1627
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:13,160
to collapse the US-Saudi petrodollar, which is what gave the US dollar global supremacy
1628
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:19,120
and allowed the US to spend like drunken sailors, never worry about debt, always just pawn it
1629
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:24,000
off on other countries who were holding dollar debt because that was the only currency that
1630
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:27,440
mattered.
1631
01:39:27,440 --> 01:39:33,000
I think I've found something that might...
1632
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:37,680
I don't know if that corroborates it, but it's more circumstantial evidence that I might
1633
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,160
be correct.
1634
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:43,600
Do you know about...well, you've heard of 9-11, right?
1635
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:47,640
Yeah, it's a convenience store.
1636
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:49,440
No, that's 7-11.
1637
01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:50,440
Oh.
1638
01:39:50,440 --> 01:39:53,920
9-11, the gigantic terrorist attack that occurred.
1639
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:54,920
Yes.
1640
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:56,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1641
01:39:56,400 --> 01:40:01,400
Well, and we've also talked about the possibility that our own CIA was involved, and I'm not
1642
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:04,300
sure that these things are mutually exclusive.
1643
01:40:04,300 --> 01:40:12,400
When you look at an open communist like Brennan, wasn't his thing...the first candidate he
1644
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:14,960
ever voted for was a communist?
1645
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:22,200
Well, he was an actual...he actually was a card-carrying member of the CPUSA.
1646
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:26,440
So yeah, okay, well, that's shocking.
1647
01:40:26,440 --> 01:40:33,560
Which means you have to live five years without brushing your teeth.
1648
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:36,240
That's gross.
1649
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:40,360
He was the director of the CIA for a time, so I'm not sure that it's mutually exclusive
1650
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:48,240
that China might have been behind 9-11, and it was also partially an inside job.
1651
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:53,120
This is...so you're aware of the first 9-11, or our 9-11.
1652
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:58,000
Are you aware of what is regarded as the first 9-11?
1653
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:01,240
No.
1654
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:08,080
Neither was I, until while I was traveling down a different rabbit hole related to Code
1655
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:12,600
Pink and whether or not Code Pink is an op, which I kind of think Code Pink is an op,
1656
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:20,840
which has taken me many years to come to that conclusion, I found this quote from Noam Chomsky.
1657
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:25,480
When we talk about terrorism, it means what they do to us, not what we do to them.
1658
01:41:25,480 --> 01:41:31,280
And what they do to us can be pretty ugly, although it's not even a fraction of what
1659
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:32,280
we do to them.
1660
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:33,280
I mean, take, say, 9-11.
1661
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:39,880
That was a pretty serious act of terrorism, maybe the worst single act of terrorism in
1662
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:41,880
history, but it could have been worse.
1663
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:48,480
I mean, suppose, for example, that Al-Qaeda had bombed Washington, bombed the White House,
1664
01:41:48,480 --> 01:41:54,360
it killed the president, installed a harsh military dictatorship, brought in a bunch
1665
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:59,280
of economists who drove the economy into its worst disaster in history.
1666
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:01,760
Well, that would have been worse than 9-11.
1667
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:03,560
And I'm not making it up.
1668
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:04,560
It happened.
1669
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:09,360
What's called the first 9-11 in South America, namely in Chile.
1670
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:16,240
On the 11th of September, 1973, the democratically elected Chilean president, Salvador Allende,
1671
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:18,960
was overthrown in a coup.
1672
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:25,800
A dictatorship under Augusto Pinochet was established that ruled Chile until 1990.
1673
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:29,960
There was the systematic suppression of all political dissidents.
1674
01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:32,800
Thousands were imprisoned and murdered.
1675
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:35,080
Who was involved in that first 9-11?
1676
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:41,560
It's not hard to find them, right in Washington and London and so on.
1677
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:43,880
But that's off the agenda.
1678
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:47,400
It doesn't count.
1679
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:50,240
So that was the first 9-11 and that got me curious.
1680
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:58,640
So I went to Producer GPT and I asked, what was China's role in this particular September
1681
01:42:58,640 --> 01:42:59,640
11th?
1682
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:06,480
And Producer GPT writes, China's role in the events of September 11th, 1973, and the Chilean
1683
01:43:06,480 --> 01:43:09,600
coup was somewhat complex.
1684
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:15,240
At that time, China was under leadership of Mao Zedong and the Communist Party of China.
1685
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:19,880
China's foreign policy during the 1970s was driven by its aim to consolidate its influence
1686
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:24,680
and expand its ties with other countries in the developing world, especially those with
1687
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:27,500
leftist or socialist governments.
1688
01:43:27,500 --> 01:43:31,600
In the case of Chile, China had established diplomatic relations with the country during
1689
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:33,960
President Allende's tenure.
1690
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:38,560
The two nations shared a common ideological bond as socialist states.
1691
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:47,960
So I like how Producer GPT, Chad GPT, uses socialist and communist interchangeably.
1692
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:53,680
Our American socialists might be offended by that, but they're the ones doing it.
1693
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:56,840
Which facilitated cooperation and friendly relations.
1694
01:43:56,840 --> 01:44:01,020
After the coup, China expressed concern and disapproval over the overthrow of a fellow
1695
01:44:01,020 --> 01:44:02,920
socialist government.
1696
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:08,640
It firmly condemned the military intervention of Chile and condemned what it perceived as
1697
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:14,760
the interference of the United States in Latin American affairs.
1698
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:24,720
So I think that 9-11, why did they pick the date 9-11?
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01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:37,720
Yeah, that's really interesting and so I had been traveling in South America about,
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01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:44,360
I don't know, 15, 20 years ago for several months.
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01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:53,360
I was, I basically hitchhiked from Columbia all the way down to the tip of South America.
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01:44:53,360 --> 01:45:00,320
And everywhere I went, you tell somebody you're from Chicago or whatever and then people are
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01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:05,960
like, oh Chicago, Michael Jordan, Al Capone and they really like you and stuff.
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01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:09,080
Could you imagine if you did that with races?
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01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:10,960
You know, that was around the time when George Bush-
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Oh Jews, gefilte fish, yeah, money, yeah.
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01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:17,720
That was in, that was around 05, I think 06.
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George Bush was president and we were being constantly told by the media how much the
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world hates us and how stupid we are and how bad we are looking to the whole world.
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01:45:28,620 --> 01:45:30,800
And I never found that anywhere I went.
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01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:35,560
In any country I found people just love America, want to come to America, have a cousin in
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America.
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01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:37,920
Like, I would be like, I'm from Chicago.
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01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:41,320
They'd be like, oh, I have a cousin in Tulsa.
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01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:42,320
I feel like there's a giant-
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No idea.
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01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:46,600
I feel like there's a giant butt coming.
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Till I got to Chile.
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Yes.
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When I got to Chile was the first, I went through about, I don't know, I think 16 or
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17 countries in seven months.
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01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:08,240
And when I got to Chile, Chile, that was the first place I got to where like I had this
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01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:19,640
overall general sense of the national people not liking me because I was American.
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Did you ever figure out why at the time or did you just move through it?
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And there was a guy who I met while hiking through a national park down all the way,
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like way, way, way down there in the tip of the continent.
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01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:38,920
And he was Chilean and he sort of explained it to me.
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And he said that they had elected the socialist president and we installed Pinochet, this
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horrible dictator there.
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01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:57,720
And basically they've never gotten over that.
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It's sort of hard to get over that.
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And that they just said, and for me I was like kind of shocked and surprised.
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It's like America has, all I think is America's good.
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All we do is good things.
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01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:19,320
I was surprised to hear him saying this stuff.
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And that's what he explained to me is that they had elected this president and by a big
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01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:32,600
margin of victory and he was wildly popular and he was a socialist.
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And we went in and overthrew him and put in Pinochet.
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And Pinochet was a really brutal dictator and people were disappearing and they still
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01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:49,240
harbor resentment there against us because of that.
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01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:56,000
So that's what you're playing to me sounds very plausible.
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01:47:56,000 --> 01:48:02,200
So you're saying that they did not learn their lesson.
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01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:04,240
Learn their lesson how?
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01:48:04,240 --> 01:48:10,040
Don't elect a commie.
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01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:14,040
Don't elect a commie or we'll shove a fascist down your throat.
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Take your pick.
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01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:17,280
They're commie or are fascist.
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01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:19,560
Well that's what we said.
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01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:21,280
I think that's what we said at the time.
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01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:25,360
There is the argument for not letting China get a toll hold somewhere.
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01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:26,360
I don't know.
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01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:28,720
In retrospect maybe that wasn't such a bad idea.
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I don't know.
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01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:33,440
I can't, I'm not here to judge what happened in Chile.
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01:48:33,440 --> 01:48:34,600
You may be right.
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01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:36,760
It may be we just shafted them.
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01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:41,800
It may be, hey, you know what, elect a commie, you get what you deserve.
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Irrelevant to me.
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01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:54,800
To me it is just a big piece of circumstantial evidence that 9-11 was originated out of China,
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out of the CPC.
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01:48:57,080 --> 01:49:04,960
And they used our, the jihadists that we built, that we paid for, they used our network to
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attack us, which was brilliant.
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They did it in a way that made Saudi Arabia look like the villain, which created the wedge
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01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:15,160
between us and now they are best friends with Saudi Arabia.
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01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:21,480
The petrodollar is collapsing, BRICS is on the rise, and it happened on 9-11, which is
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01:49:21,480 --> 01:49:25,400
like a big middle finger to the CIA.
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01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:29,440
Yeah, it totally makes sense.
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01:49:29,440 --> 01:49:38,880
It fits with their guy that they had elected being a socialist and Chinese communists and
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01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:46,800
Mao Zedong being mad about overthrowing the government.
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01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:52,920
Yep, it was revenge.
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01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:54,560
And our government knew it right away.
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01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:59,920
That's why their whole position was this is an attempt to drive a wedge between the US
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01:49:59,920 --> 01:50:00,960
and Saudi Arabia.
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01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:10,440
They knew right away what the motive was because of the calling card of the date.
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01:50:10,440 --> 01:50:15,320
Our CIA knew.
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01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:20,920
And I think that it also could have very well been a bit of an inside job when you have
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01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:23,840
people like Brennan running your CIA.
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01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:26,120
Anything is possible.
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01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:31,320
Well he was a card carrying member of the Communist Party USA, so wouldn't he be on
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01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:34,240
the side of China naturally?
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01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:37,240
Right?
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01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:41,720
That's crazy talk, Jeremy.
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01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:45,120
You're a conspiracy theorist.
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01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:52,960
Well I know one thing is that there's a really good rap video out about Target and empty
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01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:56,840
green and that's going to save us all.
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01:50:56,840 --> 01:51:01,960
If you watch those videos, you will save the country and if you go see Sound of Freedom,
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01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:10,880
you will save children.
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01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:12,320
I'm bumping a whole bunch of content.
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01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:14,600
We'll get to it on Tuesday.
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01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:19,920
I'm eager for us and everyone to get to their weekend.
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01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:23,120
This came from Gateway Pundit.
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01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:30,520
FIFA, the soccer, the world soccer organization, FIFA begs fans to do the right thing and buy
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01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:37,680
tickets as Women's World Cup gets underway with many unsold seats.
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01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:41,840
And that's always a good look when you have to beg people to buy tickets.
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01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:45,240
I think they're even giving them away and they can't give them away.
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01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:50,380
The article says the Associated Press, let's see, a large problem, said the Associated
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01:51:50,380 --> 01:51:56,160
Press, is that soccer is not generally a widely supported sport in New Zealand where they're
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01:51:56,160 --> 01:52:01,700
holding the event and attracting fans to stadiums in the coldest months of the year was always
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01:52:01,700 --> 01:52:04,800
going to be a hard sell.
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So clearly the organization hates women.
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01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:21,200
They put their championship event in a country that doesn't like soccer in the worst season
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01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:28,800
for attracting fans in that climate, the coldest months of the year.
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01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:37,080
Here is the director of FIFA begging people to come to the events.
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01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:42,680
Which are New Zealand media there on the camera?
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01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:43,680
No, no, on the cameras.
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01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:45,280
So I watch that.
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01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:48,880
New Zealand, we want you.
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01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:49,880
We need you.
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01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:51,200
It's never too late to do the right thing.
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01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:52,640
Come to watch the matches.
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01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:57,800
We need full stadiums to warm us all up.
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01:52:57,800 --> 01:52:59,080
Do the right thing.
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01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:04,060
If you don't go to these matches, if you don't support these women, you're not doing the
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01:53:04,060 --> 01:53:08,200
right thing, which means you must be doing the wrong thing.
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01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:11,000
You're evil.
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01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:13,520
Don't support women in soccer.
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01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:16,920
You're evil.
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01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:22,040
There's something morally wrong with you if you don't go to these games.
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01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:28,880
Do you like soccer?
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01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:34,100
Back to that time I was in South America, I went to a game in Argentina.
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01:53:34,100 --> 01:53:37,800
It was one of the craziest experiences I had ever lived through.
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01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:39,280
Was it women's soccer?
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01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:40,280
No.
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01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:41,280
Gynaphobia.
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01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:43,560
It was men's soccer.
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01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:45,260
It was great.
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01:53:45,260 --> 01:53:47,040
It was fun.
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01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:48,400
Sometimes I like soccer, sometimes I don't.
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01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:54,240
I don't watch a lot of sports, but it can be definitely exciting, especially in person.
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01:53:54,240 --> 01:54:02,000
It was a regular game and it had more energy than any Super Bowl or NBA finals or World
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01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:03,000
Series.
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01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:04,000
It was incredible.
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01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:05,480
Yeah, but none of the energy was on the field.
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01:54:05,480 --> 01:54:07,520
It was all in the stands.
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01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:08,520
It was all in the stands.
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01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:10,400
Yeah, I saved my friend's life.
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01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:12,920
A guy was about to fall on him from the balcony.
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01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:16,520
Wait, so you let the guy just land on concrete or on the chairs?
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01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:17,520
Yeah, yeah.
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01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:20,520
That's the move.
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01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:23,480
They lock you in the stadium at the end of the game.
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01:54:23,480 --> 01:54:26,840
They lock because it was like a cross town classic kind of thing.
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01:54:26,840 --> 01:54:30,920
Oh, to keep the crowds from attacking each other.
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01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:31,920
Right.
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01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:37,560
So you're like locked in for an hour for all the other fans to leave the stadium and clear
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01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:38,560
the area.
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01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:39,560
Nice.
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01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:41,520
And then they let the local people leave and go home.
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01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:45,640
Do they keep feeding them drinks for that hour while they're corralled?
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01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:47,160
There's no alcohol inside.
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01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:48,160
Water.
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01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:49,160
That's shocking.
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01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:50,160
That was all they had.
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01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:51,160
After they were all done.
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01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:53,040
It's they act that crazy on water.
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01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:54,960
After that, that's nuts.
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01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:59,040
They're clearly very drunk before they get there.
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01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:02,560
After you were all done watching the match, did you guys all go do the right thing and
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01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:04,720
watch some women play soccer?
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01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:05,720
Yeah.
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01:55:05,720 --> 01:55:08,680
Is that what that's the move?
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01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:12,760
No, absolutely not.
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01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:17,480
No, I think women's sports should be illegal.
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Illegal.
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01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:27,080
There go half our listeners.
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01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:33,520
Jeremy, sometimes I think you might have mercury poisoning.
1867
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:36,920
And I eat a lot of the fish and I got my mercury levels tested recently.
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01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:40,320
My levels are 10 times what EPA considers safe.
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01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:44,760
I was told by Dr. David Carpenter, who's the national authority on mercury contamination,
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01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:50,160
that a woman with my levels of mercury in her blood would have children with cognitive
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01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:51,840
impairment with permanent brain injury.
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01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:54,160
And I said to him, I mean, she might have.
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01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:56,800
And he said, no, no, no, the science is very certain today.
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01:55:56,800 --> 01:56:00,760
Her children would have some level of permanent brain damage.
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01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:06,000
And he said, probably with my levels of mercury, a permanent IQ loss in those kids of about
1876
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five to seven points.
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01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:19,760
All I'm saying is it explains a lot about RFK Jr.
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01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:21,040
Send me a picture of your yard sign.
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01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:22,200
Do you have to make it yourself?
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01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:25,560
Do you have to send it off to a printer and have it made?
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01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:29,120
No, what I decided I'm going to do is I'm going to get a bunch of Trump signs and a
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01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:33,400
bunch of Kennedy signs and line my entire four.
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01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:34,400
I'm going to stagger.
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01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:40,480
I'm going to alternate for the 400 feet of road frontage that I have and just freak people
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01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:43,480
out.
1886
01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:46,040
All my Trump neighbors are going to be like, woohoo.
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01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:52,320
And then all my Biden neighbors are going to be like, it's true.
1888
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:53,640
They are working together.
1889
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:55,640
Right, right, exactly.
1890
01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:57,760
Well, they might be.
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I don't know.
1892
01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:00,480
I don't know.
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01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:03,760
Jeremy Siegel, thank you very much once again.
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For your truth and bringing it to the Truth Bay podcast.
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Thank you to all of our producers, our listeners, our listener producers and our active producers.
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01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:24,520
Al in Joliet, what do we have?
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01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:25,520
We also had...
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01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:26,520
We had...
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01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:27,520
Jeff and Al Korn.
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01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:28,520
Yeah, Jeff and Al Korn.
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01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:29,520
I'm sorry.
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01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:33,720
I'm grabbing all my papers at once.
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01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:37,200
And we had executive producer, Anne as well.
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01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:39,840
Thank you everybody for contributing.
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01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:44,080
It shapes the show and it makes our lives easier.
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01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:45,080
Keep it up.
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Write us a truth at truthbate.com and tune in every single Tuesday and Friday, sometimes
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01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:59,160
Wednesday and Saturday, but twice a week without fail.
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The best of our ability.
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And now, back into the sea of clickbait with us all.
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All right, Jeremy, what do you have today?
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I've got truth bait, click bait.
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What do you have?
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Well, sadly, I have afterbirth abortions.
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I have censorship.
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And I have our environmental destiny.
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Let's get to the truth.
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Okay, people, let's begin.
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Five, four, three, two, one.
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Lift off.
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We have a lift off.
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Are you ready to be baited with the truth?
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Good, because you're listening to the Truth Bait Podcast.
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I'm documentary filmmaker and podcaster, Andrew Marcus.
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And with me always as we deconstruct America's propaganda war and put some truth back into
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the narrative is the only doctor of cultural therapy you should be seeing.
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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, give it up for the one and only rebel pundit, Jeremy
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Siegel.
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Thank you, Mr. Marcus.
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Jeremy Siegel, I have to tell you, your audio level is blasting loud, really hot at me.
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Are you okay?
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Is your level okay?
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Looks fine to me.
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All right, good.
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Well, we'll fix it in post.
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Jeremy?
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Did I sound really, did I sound too loud?
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You sound, maybe you just sounded very excited.
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Maybe that's all it was.
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I think that's what it was.
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No, I think it's, yeah, that is what it was.
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I came in excited today.
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Came in hot on the mic.
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How was your week?
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Did you watch the Kennedy hearings, the censorship hearings?
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No chance I would do that.
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That's why I'm here.
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That's why I didn't watch.
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Because I knew, I knew I didn't have to because you would watch it for me.
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You have come to rely on me.
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Yes.
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As hopefully our producers have come to rely on the Truthbait podcast, which is why they
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share the show, right, Jeremy?
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That's right.
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We ask you all to share the show.
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Share the show.
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Go rate the show.
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You listen to the show on Apple podcasts, you go to our Apple podcast page, you scroll
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down past all of our episodes.
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This is episode 43, so the list is getting longer for you to scroll down.
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And at the bottom, that's where you can leave your rating and a comment.
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I haven't checked anything today.
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Have you checked?
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Have you checked recently?
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Let's go look.
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I have not checked.
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We had a, oh, yeah, we have one more.
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Hey.
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Yeah, one more, one more star rating.
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We're still at five out of five, but not a new, no new written comment that I can see.
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Sometimes those delay, but you know, that's great.
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We don't, you don't have to leave a written comment.
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We love the five stars.
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Thank you for the five stars.
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We appreciate that.
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Is it better?
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Should we ask for four star ratings also or only?
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Because we've been insisting on only five star ratings.
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What are you, what?
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No, we can ask for four star ratings.
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There aren't going to be any.
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Jeremy, our producers understand five star quality podcasting when they hear it.
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No, I was just wondering, because we have insisted that only five star ratings are acceptable.
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And I was just wondering if somebody was holding back a four.
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Here's what I would suggest.
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They write us, let us know how we can be a five and then they'll rate us a five once
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we are a five.
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In their eyes, write us a truth at truthbait.com.
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That's a good idea.
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Truth at truthbait.com.
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If you think we're a one or a two, I really want to hear from you.
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That would help because we would know then what's wrong.
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And we need to know what's wrong.
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Because to us, everything's perfect.
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Oh, there's a lot that's wrong with the previous episode.
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Did you notice that there was a glitch in the previous episode?
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You told me about, you informed me about it prior to my awakening that morning.
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Oh, did I wake you?
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I told you prior to your awakening.
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That means I woke you up or you just know that the text came.
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I received a text upon opening my eyeballs.
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That said there was a problem with the upload.
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Yeah, I have no idea what happened.
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We uploaded cultural therapy because I accidentally almost called you a cultural therapist in
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the previous episode.
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So we titled it cultural therapy and I uploaded it.
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I went to bed, woke up in the morning, just happened to think to check the post and it
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was, here, I'll play it for you.
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You hear that?
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Are you going to play it?
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Yep, I am playing it.
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Yep.
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Nothing.
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And for some reason, the track was blank.
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I have no idea where in the process that happened.
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You and I have been recording very, very late.
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Today we're recording that actually early for us, but your schedule, my schedule, our
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conflicts have forced us to record very, very late.
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It was extremely late into the wee hours.
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It was early in the morning, frankly, once I was posting and I just did not.
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My quality control skills were lagged and I posted an empty file.
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So I had to...
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A blank show.
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What I want to know is if any listeners heard the blank show before it was fixed.
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And I have a prize.
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Has anybody said anything to you?
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No one said anything, but now I'm offering a prize.
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Here is the interesting thing though.
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I uploaded it as cultural therapy.
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Now I then go and I deleted the episode because you have a choice.
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You can just upload a new audio file, but then it takes a while to push that new audio
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file out.
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And what I was worried was that people would just go and counter the blank episode and
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never find that the new episode was pushed to them.
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So I deleted the episode and uploaded cultural therapy two, which was the same thing.
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But with actual audio here.
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That's from cultural therapy two.
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We actually did have liftoff.
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So if people are wondering why it said cultural therapy two, I don't know if people see cultural
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therapy on there when you go look where you, I don't know where you listen to the podcast,
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Jeremy, but where you do, do you see cultural therapy there or do you only see cultural
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therapy two?
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Let me check.
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I'm curious what people out there see.
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I see cultural therapy two on ample podcasts.
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And you don't see cultural therapy.
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Right.
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Ooh, that means I could in theory go back and change the name of culture, just take
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the two off of cultural therapy and just have it be cultural therapy.
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Although at this point I kind of like that it's cultural therapy two.
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And then there's the mystery of where's cultural therapy one.
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Yeah, but you would have to name this episode cultural therapy two so that it would make
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sense because we're you're explaining why the whole.
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Well then it would be, but it would be cultural therapy T O O.
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Cause we already have a cultural therapy too.
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Do you see we can't have another one unless you're going to have a cultural therapy 22.
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Yeah it's now see now.
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Yeah it is.
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I agree.
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So, so what did you do this week?
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What have you spent your time on?
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Have you spent your valuable time on?
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Where are you?
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Are you in a safe zone right now?
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I am in a safe zone.
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I spent my time.
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I spent some time picking blackberries for truth berry farms, blackberry jam.
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Is that right?
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You're going to, you're going into the jam business.
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One jar at a time, apparently.
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Three cups of wild picked blackberries equals two eight ounce jars.
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Two tablespoons of jam.
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But I did it.
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I did it without pectin.
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I am, jar by jar, I'm getting better and better.
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Although I need to try and figure out a way to do it in a way that it doesn't thicken
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up quite so much.
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You made jam.
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I made jam.
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Where did you learn how to make jam?
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The interwebs.
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This is, and you also did, there was a, you had visitors at your swing set.
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I know where you're going with this.
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One of the largest wasps nest I've ever seen.
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When we were over at your house on the 4th of July and I had all my kids and you're like,
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hey kids, if you want to go out on the swing set, go ahead.
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Just be careful around the slide and then sure enough, there's the biggest wasp nest
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I've ever seen on the slide.
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Yes.
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And two of my kids got attacked by your pet wasps.
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It attacked children specifically.
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It preyed on children.
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It was a child predator wasp nest.
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Did you know the nest was there?
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Oh, absolutely.
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What are you kidding?
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I thought your children were tougher than that.
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Come on.
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No, the point of this story is you sent me a picture like a day later, two days later
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with a dead wasp nest.
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Yes.
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Did you call an exterminator or did you do it yourself?
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I did not do that myself.
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No.
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I thought you were finally becoming a homesteader.
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So I was going to do it myself.
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You're making jam.
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I looked up online how to do it.
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You know, I saw the videos.
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They actually seem pretty easy and then I remembered, I'm paying for a service already
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to come and exterminate the critters around my property.
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It doesn't cost me anything for them to come and do this.
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It's already part of what I'm paying for.
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And I quickly pulled out my phone and got my fingers dialing.
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And that day, that day.
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I have never been more disappointed in you than right now.
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That day, that day they were out and took care of it.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Listen.
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I thought you were, I'm like, wow, you went and got, you're making jam.
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You're killing wasps.
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You're, you know, living free and in the land of cheese.
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Baby steps, Jeremy, baby steps.
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And I want to say had those wasps stung me, I would never have taken it as well as your
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children did.
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Your children took it so well.
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Your little girls were so brave that, you know, they were, they were very bothered by
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it at first, but they, they, I was so surprised with how quickly they regained their composure
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and were like, yeah, no big deal.
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It's no big deal.
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By the time I had the baking soda and water in a paste ready to spread on their wounds,
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they were like, nah, no, don't bother.
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It's not, not really a problem.
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And I would have been in tears.
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I might've been, I would have had a problem.
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Those things hurt.
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Those things hurt.
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Wow.
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Sometimes we get right into the meat.
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And sometimes we really do a meander before we get to the heart.
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Here I thought I was going to be introducing you as like the newest homesteading friend
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I have.
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And instead you're just a guy that bottles up blackberries.
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I'm making, Hey, I don't yet know how to walk and chew gum at the same time.
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I'm making jam.
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I will get the next Wasp's nest.
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But I'm already paying for the service, Jeremy.
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Why would I do it if I'm already paying for the service?
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Yeah.
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But then there's like no adventure.
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I was going to videotape the guy.
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Unless the guy gets chased by the swamp.
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I was going to videotape him doing it in the hopes, not in the hopes, but you know, in
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the possibility that that might happen.
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And I turned around, he's already done it.
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He did it so fast.
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That's what I mean.
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It's so easy.
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You just spray it and done.
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Walk away.
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They're gone.
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They just literally, as they come out to get you, they drop dead.
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Yep.
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I just did one this morning.
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There's got my, my friend Keith is over painting again.
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And he's like, listen, we're totally ready to go up there and paint that part of your
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garage.
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Not until you kill that nest.
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And it was a giant one like you had.
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It was funny.
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It was almost like I said it there, like a trap, you know, it's like, here, go ahead
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and paint for me.
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Okay.
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And then he's up there and he's like, no dude.
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But you know, that spray goes like 20 feet.
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I took care of it already.
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That spray goes like 20 feet.
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They're dead.
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He's up there painting.
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Nice.
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All right.
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Well let's get up there painting ourselves here.
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What you have clickbait.
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What's your clickbait?
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Click what?
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Truth bait?
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What are you talking about?
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You brought clickbait to the truth bait podcast.
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I just realized it.
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Okay.
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I'm very intrigued.
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So, okay.
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So, and I don't have the clip of you, but I don't need it.
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We producer, executive producer Al sent in a story about Robert Kennedy Jr. and global
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warming.
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I can't find that story now.
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Oh, and I'm going to, I'm going to, I have something very exciting for you.
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Since you bring up Kennedy, I fixed his voice and I have the formula.
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The secret formula to fix his voice.
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Okay.
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And it's a good thing too, because you know, there was that hearing.
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And so I've got some Kennedy, not too much, but I've, I've, I've figured out a way to
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fix his voice.
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And what is it?
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It's in reference to Kennedy, you know, I, I, I know a lot of people that like Kennedy
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like I do, but they're a little more on the fence and they're concerned always.
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They're like, I like him.
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I like what he says, but I'm a little worried.
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He's like really pro environment, which is a funny way of saying that because I'm pro
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environment, but they're, they're worried that he's environmentalist.
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Right.
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Yes.
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And, and, and he may have been, it seems in the past, but I'm not sure he still is.
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And he made some comments about environmentalism being used to usher in authoritarian controls
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in our life.
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This is such good synergy.
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Oh, this is so good.
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Go ahead.
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And one of the, and one of the things that he said, which you brought a clip early on
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when we first started talking about him running for president and he's at a pro he's at like
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a street protest.
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It's years ago and he's talking about what seems to be sounding like jailing people who
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do not agree with, you know, the climate change agenda or who are not pro environment.
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Do you remember that clip?
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He was talking about the, do you have that clip?
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Well, I, I don't have the clip of us, but I have the, it's in this interview.
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Do you have the episode that he's doing?
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Do you know what episode it was?
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You're accusing me of bringing click bait to this show.
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And now we don't even know the context of how I brought it.
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I might have even said at the time that it was click bait.
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We're going to drill down.
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No, you might have, you might have, you, that's possible.
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You might have said it was click bait.
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I think that, that what's interest, no, because what, what it was is we were talking about
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it and you brought the clip and you were like, you know, what about this?
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And you know, his environmentalism and stuff.
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So that, the, the, the sound bite is here.
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This is an interview that he did a couple of weeks ago with the brain trust over at
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a reason magazine.
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It's Nick Gillespie and some other guy, I forget his name.
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And they seem like they're really trying to get Bobby Kennedy, uh, kinda or trap him or
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figure, or maybe they're just trying to get to the truth.
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Like we are.
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So here's, here's, here's the beginning of that segment.
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Explain what was your, in the past, you have called for the jailing of CEOs and climate
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change skeptics.
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We've got a clip from 2014 of you.
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Let's run that clip and then could you explain what was your thinking and whether or not
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it's changed since then?
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That's Nick Gillespie.
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You know who Nick Gillespie is?
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Yeah.
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He's a fan of Hating Brite Bart, which is what I think he's famous for.
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He was wearing the same thing in this interview that he wore in Hating Brite Bart.
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It's the same thing that he wears everywhere he goes.
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It's a black t-shirt, black V-neck t-shirt.
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He used to wear the leather jacket on top of that.
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Yeah.
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Guys never changed his clothes ever.
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It makes me think that he might be, he might be an op.
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There's something, he's so committed to this uniform, kind of like Bannon and his three
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collared button down shirts.
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Exactly.
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And his hobo raincoat.
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So anyways, Nick Gillespie, he's got this look on his face when he's asking him like,
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okay, let's see what this guy's going to say here.
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You know, he just looks condescending and that's how a lot of libertarians and you know,
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because they have figured out the secret to all of politics, which is extreme radical
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libertarianism.
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So anyways.
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Sure.
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So he was talking, he was asking him about that clip, which is the same clip that you
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brought to Truthbait a couple months ago.
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They should be enjoying three hots and a cot at the Hague with all the other war criminals
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who are there.
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What about politicians, people who deny who, to express skepticism?
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They're selling out the public trust.
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And you know, I think those guys who are doing the Koch brothers bidding and who are against
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all the evidence of the rational mind are saying that global warming doesn't exist,
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that they are contemptible human beings and that, you know, I wish that there were a law
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you could punish them under.
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It sounds like from this clip coming in on Kennedy's comments, that he's talking about
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jailing people, you know, over, you know, climate change.
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It does sound that way.
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You're right.
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Views.
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Yeah.
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I don't think there's a war, a law that you can punish those politicians under, but I
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do, I think the Koch brothers should be prosecuted for reckless and dangerous.
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Absolutely.
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That's a criminal offense and they ought to be serving time for it.
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So now they come back in and they're like, okay, we got you.
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Okay.
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Do you still feel that way?
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Obviously we're down one Koch brother.
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Yeah.
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You got to, you have to look at the earlier part of that clip.
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The earlier part of the clip.
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I don't know if there's an actual earlier part of that clip or not that he talks about,
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but what he's, he's referring obviously to earlier comments prior to making that comment,
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which has been cut out.
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Which she didn't show.
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It shows that I was being asked a question about their criminal conduct.
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The Koch energy at that time was, I think it was the third or fourth largest air polluter
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in the world.
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It was maintaining pet coke piles in Detroit and Chicago that were poisoning poor neighborhoods.
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It was, it was the, the, uh, it had been criminally convicted of violating environmental, which
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means it did it knowingly in order to make money.
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And what I say earlier on the clip, I say, if I, you know, the black kid steals $10 from
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a grocery store, you go to jail.
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Why shouldn't the Koch brothers be going to jail if they're, if they're stealing hundreds
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of millions of dollars, which was fun.
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Do you think people who,
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let me finish up because I do, I, I have said that, um, that companies that certain, certain
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or certain entities, corporate entities that habitually violate the law or whose purposes
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they injure the public, um, uh, public wheel, the public interest, those corporations should
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be subject to the corporate death penalty.
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And what that means is there's a, there's a, um, you know, the corporations are licensed
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by the states, but most of the states require that the corporation in order to get a charter
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and it operate in the public interest.
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And if it departs from the public interest, in other words, if it's completely consumed
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by private interest, that is actually damaging the public interest in the States, the secretary
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of state and the attorney general have the capacity in various states to act that charter
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in every.
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Dick Gillespie and this other guy, his sidekick on this interview at this point, you could
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see their like eyeballs are twitching because they're like triggered because they're such
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proponents of unfettered, uninterrupted free market capitalism that they champion the rights
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of the corporation usually to an extent that gives them greater rights over people.
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Um,
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Well, that or that or they're sitting there producing an interview with the guy and he,
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he's a run on sentence.
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That's true.
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And he, and with his voice being so hard to listen to, to begin with it, you, he could
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be sitting there as the interviewer thinking this interview is dying on the vine.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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Just like my clip is.
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But anyways, uh, no, but so, you know, Kennedy's talking about, uh, dealing with, with corporations
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and corporate power and the way that it goes.
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But the other thing I think they're triggered by is, uh, Koch brothers are probably the
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biggest, probably one of their biggest funders over at reason.
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Um, you know, so now they're, you're correct.
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They're a little worried about the corporate death penalty coming their way.
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You know, somebody has the ability to act that charter, for example, in New York state
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in the 1990s, um, the Republican attorney general, uh, liquidated the tobacco Institute.
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The tobacco Institute was an Institute that was created by the tobacco by Philip Morris
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and the other tobacco companies.
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Those companies knew for 60 years at their product was killing one out of every four
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of their customers who use the product as directed, but they were lying to the public
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about it and they were creating, Hey, let me finish this because this is important for
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people to know, you know, because I've been accused of this before.
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I think this is interesting and it's, it's, it's, you know, talking about this tobacco
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Institute was evidently created to give cover and, and cover up for the fact that tobacco
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was harmful for people.
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And there, there are how many types of organizations and entities out there now that are, you know,
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do the same thing.
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And it's every, and then there's every, uh, you know, corporate interest pushing the vaccines
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or health initiatives or there's the global warming stuff.
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And what Kennedy was talking about was companies pushing fraudulent and knowingly fraudulent
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information.
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Yeah.
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Should that, should that be penalized?
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You love him.
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I like him.
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I do.
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I like him.
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I like him.
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Yeah.
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I like this guy because he's, because I think he's honest.
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I don't.
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I, I thought he was at first, but I don't think so anymore.
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All right.
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Jeremy, do you have more, do you have more that you want to play of him, of your friend?
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Um, well, he does go on in the, I don't need to play at all.
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He does go on in the interview to make the case that the way COVID restrictions and authoritarian
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rules were put in place to control our behavior were used and how they're similarly doing
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the same thing with the climate change agenda.
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And this is why I don't trust him, Jeremy.
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And if you listen to it, he, he, that's, that's, that's what he says.
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He does not sound like he's for it.
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They asked him, he, cause he goes on to then say that the comments he was making back then
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were based on certain information that was put forth.
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And he basically says that if he had the information then that he has now, he wouldn't have made
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those comments.
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Now I'm not excusing his comments.
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I'm loving this moment right now.
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I'm not excusing his comments.
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What I'm enjoying is his willingness to not somehow try to spin his commentary into something
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that it wasn't.
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And he's, he even concedes a point to this other guy at reason.
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You know, it's like, there's a humbleness and he's like, yeah, I might've been wrong
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about that.
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Okay.
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Well, okay.
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Let's see if by the end of what I'm about to play, you feel that he is genuine.
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Okay.
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And maybe I'm looking at it with too jaundiced of an eye.
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Do you want to hear what I have for sure?
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Do you want to hear my technique for repairing him?
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Which is better.
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The technique is pretty good.
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Hang on.
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Okay.
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It's all fabulous.
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I don't know what you're talking about.
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So here is a clip of Kennedy on Joe Rogan.
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Okay.
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Just a short clip.
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This is non-effective.
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This is just him.
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But he was looking at these non-conventional data sources like the ones that you spoke
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of.
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He was looking at insurance industry actuary, insurance industry data.
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Not only is his voice hard enough to listen to, he's talking about actuary data.
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All right.
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Here is the repair.
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But he was looking at these non-conventional data sources like the ones that you spoke
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of.
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He was looking at insurance industry actuary, insurance industry data.
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Could you tell the difference?
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Yeah, I would say it's better.
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Data sources like the ones that you spoke of.
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He was looking at insurance industry actuary.
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Data sources like the ones that you spoke of.
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He was looking at insurance industry actuary, insurance industry data.
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Do you want to know how I did it?
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I don't know if I even want to say it out loud.
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The whole world will have the formula.
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This is like a secret formula, a secret sauce.
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Chat GPT or AI.
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Okay, it's possible that it could be artificial intelligence, but it was me.
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That's definitely artificial intelligence.
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Exactly.
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I won't take credit.
531
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,920
I don't know if I'll characterize my intelligence as authentic.
532
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:30,120
I just had the bright idea to speed them up by 20%.
533
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,120
That's all it is.
534
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,120
I sped them up by 20%.
535
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:45,480
If you got him a brain implant, an AI brain implant, you could speed him up by 20%.
536
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,640
He just needs to have all of his comments recorded and sped up 20%.
537
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:57,360
Or there should be a real time AI filter that he could go through.
538
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:05,800
I think you just created a job for yourself at the campaign.
539
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,160
I'm on it.
540
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,640
I'll still do the show though.
541
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:15,800
You could be his full time voice engineer.
542
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:21,600
This is from a talk that he gave to the University of Chicago.
543
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,280
It's posted eight years ago.
544
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:28,120
I don't have the exact date of the talk, but I assume it's probably pretty close to when
545
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,520
it was posted.
546
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,000
Our environmental destiny.
547
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,300
I have a few clips from it, which I think were...
548
00:31:38,300 --> 00:31:42,720
I have not taken them out of context, but I have lifted them out of the longer piece.
549
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,520
But I think they are illustrative.
550
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,480
Here's the first one.
551
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:58,840
I got into this, into the environmental racket, working for fishermen on the Hudson River.
552
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,480
So I just like that very...
553
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,680
That literally was at the very front of his comments.
554
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,720
Did anything jump out to you about that?
555
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,720
No.
556
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:15,340
I got into this, into the environmental racket.
557
00:32:15,340 --> 00:32:18,960
The environmental racket.
558
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:19,960
He just meant business.
559
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,960
Really?
560
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,960
I don't know.
561
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:27,880
I think that's one of those truth wants to come out kind of moments.
562
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,080
To me, it sounds pretty honest.
563
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,080
Okay.
564
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,640
That's what it is.
565
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,640
It's a racket.
566
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,640
Okay.
567
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,640
Okay.
568
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,920
Very interesting you say that.
569
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:39,920
Let's keep going.
570
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:46,240
I would argue that in 100% of the situations, good environmental policy is identical to
571
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,400
good economic policy if we want to measure our economy.
572
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:55,120
And this is how we ought to be measuring it, based upon how it produces jobs and the dignity
573
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,320
of jobs over the generations, over the long term, and how it preserves the value of the
574
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,520
assets of our community.
575
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,160
If on the other hand, we want to do what the polluters want us to do, which is like the
576
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,960
Koch brothers or Exxon, the people who are funding the Tea Party, which is to treat the
577
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:16,240
planet as if it were business and liquidation, convert our natural resources to cash as quickly
578
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,500
as possible, have a few years of pollution-based prosperity.
579
00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:24,640
We can generate an instantaneous cashflow and the illusion of a prosperous economy,
580
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,320
but our children are going to pay for our joyride and they're going to pay for it.
581
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,960
And we can make a few people billionaires by impoverishing the rest of us.
582
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:39,400
Now I ask you, Jeremy, are you down with that description of basically just major industry
583
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,400
in this country?
584
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:46,200
Because that's really what the Koch brothers are, major infrastructure industry.
585
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,200
Are they evil?
586
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,200
Are they evil?
587
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,200
I think so.
588
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,720
Capitalists just trying to strip the planet so that they can get a short-term gain?
589
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,280
I don't think the Koch brothers are capitalist.
590
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,120
Do you think that they are trying to destroy, that they don't care that they're destroying
591
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,280
the planet just for some profit?
592
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,280
Yes.
593
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,040
You really believe that?
594
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,040
Yeah.
595
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:13,080
I do not believe the Koch brothers are interested in humanity or the wellbeing of people.
596
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,960
How about just their own grandchildren?
597
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,400
I don't know about their grandchildren.
598
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,540
You don't think they care about their own grandchildren?
599
00:34:22,540 --> 00:34:25,560
I don't know what they care about.
600
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,520
I think the Koch brothers are evil.
601
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,520
Wow.
602
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,520
Wow.
603
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,880
What do you base that on?
604
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,360
Look, I don't know that they're angels.
605
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,360
I think they are.
606
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,200
Maybe they are evil, but I don't have any information to base that.
607
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,080
I think they're just as evil as George Soros.
608
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,880
Okay.
609
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,060
I think they are globalists.
610
00:34:47,060 --> 00:34:50,200
I think they have been positioned.
611
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,840
And because what he said was accurate in many ways.
612
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:58,320
He's upset with them because they're globalists, Jeremy.
613
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,320
Listen to the way he described them.
614
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,320
He lumped the tea party in.
615
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:07,040
No, he's upset at them because he thinks they're polluters.
616
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:12,280
And he thinks that they're corrupt in how they conduct their business operations that
617
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,120
lead to pollution.
618
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,120
That was what it sounded like to me.
619
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,120
Okay.
620
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,880
But he didn't give any evidence in that clip.
621
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:30,320
So I'd like to see some, I guess I'd like to see some, you know, it's fair to want
622
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,240
to see evidence of that.
623
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:40,360
But the way that the Koch brothers control and pull the puppet strings of all of the
624
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,640
nonprofits is the same way that George Soros does.
625
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:51,120
The way they're intertwined into every single aspect of politics of the right.
626
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:58,360
They are, they're pulling the lever of the direction of the movement and they were funding
627
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:04,120
the tea party and they were misdirecting the tea party.
628
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,120
They got everybody to become-
629
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:11,440
I think the tea party was more than just some of the big funders that came in after the
630
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,360
tea party pretty much grew organically.
631
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:20,560
It did and then they took it over basically and they took it over through funding everything.
632
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:21,560
Yeah.
633
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,880
I just don't know that that makes them evil.
634
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,880
Hold on.
635
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,880
Again.
636
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:25,880
It does if their interest is undermining.
637
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,880
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
638
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,880
Hold on.
639
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,200
I'm going to stop you because we're talking about two different things.
640
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,280
We're conflating two different things.
641
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,800
The reasons you think they're evil and the reasons Kennedy thinks they're evil.
642
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,560
And the question is not whether or not you think they're evil for different reasons.
643
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,920
It's do you agree with Kennedy's characterization of them?
644
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:56,480
Well, I would have to see, I would have to see more evidence of how they're doing what
645
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,840
he's accusing them of doing.
646
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:05,360
But my general tendency now at this point, seeing what I've seen over the last decade
647
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:11,080
and a half of following this stuff, I would side with him before I would side with the
648
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:17,080
Koch brothers and I would operate under the assumption that they are working against the
649
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:22,160
interest of the country and against the interest of the people because I have seen how much
650
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:29,000
they do in and toward the interest of globalism and getting rid of the United States.
651
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,520
And Kennedy's not doing that?
652
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:32,520
Kennedy's not a part of any of that?
653
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,520
Hold on.
654
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,120
Maybe he is, but I haven't seen it.
655
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,040
Okay, well, let's keep playing.
656
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,280
When parliament was debating a cap and trade system that's very similar to the one that
657
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,280
we passed in the United States Congress, it was called the Waxman-Markey bill two years
658
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,480
ago and it was then killed by the oil industry in the Senate.
659
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:53,880
And it was the cornerstone of Barack Obama's energy policy and to its credit parliament
660
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,560
ultimately passed the bill and their bill was much, much tougher.
661
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,520
And the bill was a, you know, it was, it's like a no brainer.
662
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,520
It was actually the system was dreamt up by the right wing of the Republican party and
663
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,480
it was just, it was a way to impose cap and trade.
664
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,040
It was a way to impose free market logic.
665
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:15,280
I love Ferdy and Slips.
666
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,040
They're my favorite.
667
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,960
He is talking about cap and trade, of course, but he's trying to put it in different language.
668
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,480
Say, you know, it was, it's like a no brainer.
669
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,480
It was actually the system was dreamt up by the right wing of the Republican party.
670
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,440
Yeah, cap and trade was so right wing.
671
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,720
You remember how that was like such a right wing thing, how Republicans were like, yeah,
672
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:37,120
cap and trade, we need cap and trade.
673
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,360
I don't, I don't remember that at all.
674
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,960
I think there were Republicans pushing for cap and trade.
675
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,920
The right wing of the Republican party.
676
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,520
No, the establishment maybe the right wing of the Republican party was not going for
677
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,520
cap and trade.
678
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,840
It wasn't right wing.
679
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,120
They weren't writing cap and trade.
680
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,280
He said, yes he did.
681
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,680
He said it's as though it came straight out of the right wing of the Republican party.
682
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,600
Scredded Parliament ultimately passed the bill.
683
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,080
Their bill was much, much tougher.
684
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,000
And the bill was a, you know, it was a, it's like a no brainer.
685
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,000
It was actually, the system was dreamt up by the right wing of the Republican party.
686
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,960
And it was just, it was a way to impose cap and trade.
687
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:20,560
It was a way to impose free market logic onto the disposal of carbon.
688
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,080
This is what he does.
689
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,080
Okay.
690
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:33,080
He takes, I think he takes leftist dogma and wraps it up in a veneer of, of conservatism
691
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,080
or free marketeer-ism, free market-ism, free marketeer-ism.
692
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:42,800
Well, it sounds like, it sounds like this, I don't know, what is this event again?
693
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,080
This is at the University of Chicago.
694
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,480
He is giving a speech called our environmental destiny.
695
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,480
Let's play a little more.
696
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,640
And in England, virtually everybody accepts the science behind global warming.
697
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:58,280
They haven't been deluged as we have in this country by $200 million propaganda campaign
698
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,280
funded by the Koch brothers, by Exxon, by the American petroleum Institute over the
699
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:07,280
past 20 years to persuade Americans that they're scientific doubt about global warming.
700
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,840
So in England, everybody recognized the science on that.
701
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,720
And they understand this is, they look at this as a grim reality that government has
702
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:17,120
to take a strong hand in addressing.
703
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,040
Oh, oh yeah.
704
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,840
Yeah, eight years ago.
705
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,120
I mean, I disagree with some of that for sure.
706
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,160
Yeah, some of it.
707
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,120
Let's just dig into it.
708
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:33,280
That that, you know, they're so smart in London because they, they're not deluged with all
709
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:39,320
this oil money that convinces people that tricks people into thinking that climate change
710
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,320
isn't real.
711
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,680
The global warming isn't real.
712
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:50,160
There's some garbage right there.
713
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,160
Then they do do that.
714
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,160
No, I'm sorry.
715
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,840
I would explain it differently.
716
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,280
They don't need to spend a dime because most people know that it's garbage.
717
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,960
No, but I would explain it.
718
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:12,960
I've explained it differently and that the, that the, the, the money that, that he's calling
719
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:19,440
propaganda, I also call propaganda that comes through Fox News and all of these places.
720
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:30,680
It's, it's, it's, it's created and put out in a way that creates a, it makes a paradigm.
721
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,480
Jeremy, climate change had already happened.
722
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,680
Climate gate happened two years before this.
723
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:44,840
Climate gate being when, when the, the, the NOAA, the pushers of, of global climate change
724
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:52,160
narrative were exposed about lying about the hockey stick graph that Al Gore used for his
725
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:57,120
load of garbage movie Fahrenheit 911.
726
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:03,880
So we already knew that all this data was a fraud when he was still pushing this as
727
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:04,880
gospel.
728
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:10,680
So in England, everybody recognized the science on the, they, and they understand this as
729
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,600
they look at this a grim reality that government has to take a strong hand in addressing.
730
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,920
Government has to take a strong hand in investing.
731
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:23,280
Well, that sounds really free market.
732
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,640
This guy's full of, he's full of it.
733
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,120
You can decide what it is.
734
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,840
I spent a lot of my time over the past 30 years suing the coal industry and coal burning
735
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,320
utilities.
736
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,320
That's nice.
737
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:43,560
Up until recently, I thought that it was bad for the government and these entities to be
738
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,360
suing coal out of business.
739
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,520
I thought we needed coal.
740
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,680
And I was in West Virginia two years ago and I had a six and a half week jury trial in
741
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:55,680
the state.
742
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,800
And in the end, we won the biggest judgment in the history of the state.
743
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,040
It was later essentially dismantled by the West Virginia Supreme Court, which is just
744
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:10,520
a subsidiary of the coal industry in the state.
745
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:15,160
We know this, that every nation that has decarbonized its society has experienced instantaneous
746
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,160
Okay.
747
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,160
Yeah.
748
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,160
Yeah.
749
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,080
He's reading stupid talking points that are wrong.
750
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,080
This one's nuts.
751
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,440
This one is nuts.
752
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:30,080
We know this, that every nation that has decarbonized its society has experienced instantaneous
753
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,800
prosperity and wealth.
754
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,160
Iceland in 1970 decided to decarbonize society.
755
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,920
At that time, it was the poorest country in Europe.
756
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,440
They really wanted to get rid of carbon.
757
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,560
They were 100% dependent on imported coal and oil.
758
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,040
They wanted to get rid of it because they were frightened of global warming, which impacts
759
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,600
the northern latitudes disproportionately.
760
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,000
And again, there were naysayers and people say we have to go slowly, but Iceland moved
761
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,800
very deliberately.
762
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:57,560
Within 15 years, they had completely decarbonized and Iceland today gets 95% of its energy from
763
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,040
geothermal, local geothermal.
764
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,880
But it went during that period from being the poorest country in Europe being the fourth
765
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,080
richest country by GDP on earth.
766
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,080
And now?
767
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,920
Now, unfortunately for Iceland, they spent virtually all of their new found wealth on
768
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,320
bundled derivatives and they are once again the poorest country in Europe.
769
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,800
Whomp, whomp.
770
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:23,000
Well, is that the fault of alternative energy?
771
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:29,000
I just, amazing that they were the richest and then they spent all their money poorly
772
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,000
and now they're the poorest.
773
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,000
I don't know.
774
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,200
It just is a very convenient narrative for him.
775
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:39,040
Well, but he says something interesting to me is, I don't know if it's true, I'd have
776
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to see it, but did it affect, was the wealth of that nation affected?
777
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:51,920
Did it improve the financial condition for people there when they made that change or
778
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:52,920
not?
779
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,840
So the fraud of the progressive left hand, was that responsible for their demise or was
780
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,680
it the fraud of the progressive right hand?
781
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:04,440
Yeah, I don't know which progressive hand it was that destroyed them, but yeah.
782
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:16,160
No, but the problem is all of it is so muddied and it's hard to find truth in any of it.
783
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:24,320
Because it's easy to, rah rah coal, rah rah gas, and I'm not against these things, but
784
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:31,720
those industries receive and rely on enormous government subsidies and always have.
785
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:32,720
I agree with that.
786
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:33,720
I agree with that.
787
00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:34,720
Yeah, sure.
788
00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:36,480
Yeah, but that's not the argument he's making.
789
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,180
That's not what he's talking about.
790
00:45:38,180 --> 00:45:43,720
He is saying that decarbonizing leads to instant wealth.
791
00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:48,420
Jeremy, does that jive with you?
792
00:45:48,420 --> 00:45:50,520
It sounds inaccurate to me.
793
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,520
Inaccurate.
794
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:52,520
It sounds like a load of garbage.
795
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,520
Yeah, it does.
796
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,520
I mean, I agree.
797
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:58,520
Sweden's amazing.
798
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,840
Sweden in 1997 decided to decarbonize its society and incidentally to shut down its
799
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:08,120
nuclear power plants and closed the two biggest nuclear plants, slapped a $150 ton tax on
800
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:15,040
carbon and Sweden since then, and again, you had tens of thousands of entrepreneurs.
801
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:20,520
They slapped that free market tax on carbon by the way, that free market application.
802
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,280
Pushing into that space to create new forms of energy from wind, from tidal, from solar,
803
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,040
from geothermal, from putrid garbage and sawmill waste.
804
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:35,240
And today, Sweden, since 1997, Sweden's economy has grown by 45% while its energy use has
805
00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:36,440
dropped by 9%.
806
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:42,760
Brazil 20 years ago decarbonized its transportation system and as a direct result of that choice,
807
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:47,800
Brazil, while the entire world economy spirals and collapses, Brazil is enjoying the longest,
808
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,320
most robust economic expansion in the history of Latin America.
809
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:55,480
Are you seeing a pattern?
810
00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,400
I'm seeing a pattern here.
811
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:08,840
So just again, I know it wasn't an executive producer, Ann, who sent what you referenced
812
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:18,640
earlier where he was outraged that they're using global warming as a fear tactic.
813
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:26,800
All I'm saying is that this guy has been at the center of pushing the entire ecosystem
814
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,840
that is that fear that everybody's experiencing now.
815
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,440
Well, and he should know.
816
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:34,920
Right, I guess so.
817
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,720
According to Scientific American, we're number three in terms of solar energy.
818
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:43,720
Scientific American just did a report that showed you could power the entire US energy
819
00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:49,680
grid from an area at 75 miles by 75 miles in the desert southwest.
820
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,200
We're number one in wind energy in the world.
821
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,600
And the Great Plains states are kind of the Saudi Arabia of wind.
822
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,960
North Dakota is the windiest place on earth at sea level.
823
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,120
We have enough, according to the Scientific American, we have enough harnessable wind
824
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:08,040
in Montana, North Dakota, and Texas to provide 100% of our energy grid three times over,
825
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,200
even if every American owned an electric car.
826
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,560
The price of wind and solar is dropping so dramatically, particularly solar, because
827
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:20,800
of the Chinese involvement and because of the pace of technological improvements.
828
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,960
The price of solar since last year has dropped by 85%.
829
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:30,040
The problem is the North Dakota wind farmer cannot get his electrons to markets in Cincinnati,
830
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:34,800
Cleveland, Columbus, New Orleans, New York, or Chicago, because they will diffuse in the
831
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,840
line before they cross the North Dakota border.
832
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:42,200
And what we need to do is to build a, we need a national campaign like Eisenhower launched
833
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:46,880
with the highway system back in the 60s when I was a boy to connect every American community
834
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:53,000
to a national highway system for the sake of national cohesion, for the sake of commerce,
835
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,640
and for the sake of national security, but to do it with an electric system to connect
836
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,780
every American to a unified national grid.
837
00:48:59,780 --> 00:49:01,360
We changed the rules in California.
838
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,500
The group that I work for, NRDC, we rewrote the rules so that instead of making money
839
00:49:05,500 --> 00:49:11,600
by doing bad things, utility CEOs make money the same amount of money or more, but by doing
840
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,600
good things.
841
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,020
And this wasn't a radical idea.
842
00:49:16,020 --> 00:49:22,040
They make money by getting their consumers to conserve energy or to switch to renewables.
843
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,280
It's not a radical notion.
844
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:28,640
Before we had deregulation in this country, the way that utilities made money is by building
845
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,180
capital projects.
846
00:49:30,180 --> 00:49:33,520
So they would go to the Public Utility Commission and say, I want to build a dam.
847
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,440
The dam's going to cost $100 million.
848
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,840
I want to make 12% profit per annum.
849
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,640
And I want that integrated into the rate base.
850
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,840
The PUC, if they could demonstrate a need, the PUC would stamp it approved, and they
851
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,320
go ahead and build the dam.
852
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,960
Today, the way that the utilities make money in California is they go to the Public Utility
853
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:57,840
Commission and they say, we want to take the Edison light bulbs out of a million homes
854
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,680
and replace them with LED light bulbs that use 12% of the energy.
855
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:06,400
We want to go into a million homes and tear out the hot water boilers and the refrigerators
856
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:13,680
and air conditioners and other appliances and replace them with more efficient models.
857
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,360
It's going to cost us $100 million.
858
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,240
We want to make 12% profit.
859
00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:21,960
And it's going to save a lot more energy than we would create by investing in a bad dam
860
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:27,280
or a power plant, in some cases 5 to 10 times the amount of energy per dollar.
861
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:32,360
Because in 1982, we rewrote the law in California to make it so that free market capitalism
862
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,440
serves society rather than getting rich by doing evil things.
863
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,360
Today, Californians use half the energy that everybody else uses in our country.
864
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,520
I'm a partner in the biggest green tech venture capital firm in the country.
865
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,040
And so I'm deeply involved in building wind farms.
866
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,040
Wait, what?
867
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,040
What?
868
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,220
I'm a partner in the biggest green tech venture capital firm in the country.
869
00:50:54,220 --> 00:51:01,600
And so I'm deeply involved in building wind farms, solar farms, LED lights.
870
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,400
That explains a lot.
871
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:11,280
Can you imagine this guy helped change the law in California so that they could use free
872
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:19,960
market tax money to go eliminate light bulbs and rip out people's water heaters and put
873
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:24,640
in excellent new efficient ones that weren't made in China or anything?
874
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:32,080
Oh, but but but no, but it's totally altruistic because the guy is because we I'm a partner
875
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,560
in the biggest green tech venture capital firm in the country.
876
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:41,960
And so I'm deeply involved in building wind farms, solar farms, LED lights, electric cars,
877
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:42,960
etc.
878
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,360
How's your yard side coming, Jeremy?
879
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,280
How's your Kennedy Trump yard side coming?
880
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,720
I'm hammering it in the ground right now.
881
00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:55,280
Eyes wide open, my friend.
882
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,280
Eyes wide open.
883
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,040
Let's see what else do I have here.
884
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,040
We have a company called Cha Cha.
885
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,520
It's one of our portfolio company.
886
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:01,520
You may have heard it.
887
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,120
If you dialed Cha Cha 247-247 on your computer on your cell phone.
888
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,800
This is actually this is very interesting considering how old this is.
889
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,480
It will answer any question.
890
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:11,840
You know, usually within a minute.
891
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,720
So I was showing it to some in China the other day to some Chinese friends of mine.
892
00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:20,320
I said I asked him a question, I said, what was my favorite lunch on meal?
893
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,320
And I did it.
894
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,600
It comes back a minute.
895
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,660
So yeah, a couple of things here.
896
00:52:26,660 --> 00:52:31,000
Just to think about first of all, he's demonstrating this to his friends in China.
897
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,520
Okay, so there's your there's your non globalist right there.
898
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,000
He's pitching tech in China.
899
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,640
And look at what the tech is.
900
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,960
It's chat GPT eight years ago on a cell phone.
901
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,960
AI.
902
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,240
I we have a company called Cha Cha.
903
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:51,680
It's one of our portfolio company.
904
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:52,680
You may have heard it.
905
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:57,840
If you dialed Cha Cha 247-247 on your computer on your cell phone, it will answer any question.
906
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,240
You know, usually within a minute.
907
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:03,120
So I was showing it to some in China the other day to some Chinese friends of mine.
908
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,080
And I said, I said, ask me any question.
909
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,760
They said, what was Mao Zedong's favorite lunch on meal?
910
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:08,760
And I did it.
911
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,720
And he's that comes back a minute later saying spicy brown bean soup on pork fried rice.
912
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:15,400
And I don't know if that's right or not.
913
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,640
But it gave me an answer.
914
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,880
You think about what that would have cost you a few years ago.
915
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,180
Today, it's free because we built a national grid.
916
00:53:23,180 --> 00:53:24,220
That's a marketplace.
917
00:53:24,220 --> 00:53:28,080
It's free information forever.
918
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,360
To me would really jumped out there again.
919
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:39,560
So that's eight years ago, our Intel agencies have been using AI for many years.
920
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,600
It's only just now coming out into the public.
921
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:50,160
And what he was demonstrating was early AI on a cell phone, pitching it to his Chinese
922
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,160
friends.
923
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:57,000
Obviously, you have Kennedy derangement syndrome.
924
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,200
No, I was.
925
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,560
I was right there with you until I just went digging, man.
926
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,560
I just went digging.
927
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,400
And now I'm very suspect.
928
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,680
Look, in all fairness, I clipped something that I agree with.
929
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,720
Okay, I'm not just here to bag on him.
930
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:15,400
Let's play this.
931
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,760
The real threat to democracy comes from excessive corporate power.
932
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,440
And if you look throughout American history, the most visionary political leaders, Republicans
933
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,440
and Democrats, have warned Americans against excessive corporate power.
934
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,840
Teddy Roosevelt said that America would never be destroyed by a foreign enemy, but that
935
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:35,640
our beloved democratic institutions would be subverted by malefactors of great wealth
936
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,000
who would steal them from within.
937
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:42,700
Dwight Eisenhower said, a Republican, said in his most famous speech ever, warned Americans
938
00:54:42,700 --> 00:54:46,080
against the domination by the military industrial complex.
939
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,840
Abraham Lincoln, the greatest Republican in history, said in 1863 at the height of the
940
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,240
Civil War, I have the South behind me and I have the banker.
941
00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:57,280
I have the South in front of me and I have the bankers behind me.
942
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,600
And for my country, I fear the bankers more.
943
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:06,440
And Franklin Roosevelt said in World War II that domination of government by corporate
944
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,920
power is, quote, the essence of fascism.
945
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:14,080
And Benito Mussolini, who had an insider's view of that process, said essentially the
946
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,400
same thing.
947
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,600
He complained that fascism should not be called fascism.
948
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:22,360
It should be called corporatism because it was, in his words, the merger of state and
949
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:23,700
corporate power.
950
00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:28,400
And what we have to understand is that the domination of business by government is called
951
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,440
communism.
952
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,920
The domination of government by business is called fascism.
953
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:38,880
And our job is to walk that narrow trail in between, which is free market capitalism and
954
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,720
democracy and keep big government at bay with our left hand, big business at bay with our
955
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:43,720
right.
956
00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:46,920
And in order to do that, we need a free and independent press that's willing to speak
957
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,060
truth to power, which we don't have in this country.
958
00:55:49,060 --> 00:55:54,720
And we also need an educated public that can recognize all the milestones of tyranny.
959
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:56,840
And that is your job.
960
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:04,640
Okay, so I agree with that, except that he is an investor in green tech using the government
961
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,720
to commandeer tax dollars to push the policy he wants.
962
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:11,080
Jeremy, how is he any different?
963
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,080
He's a Koch brother.
964
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,480
He's a Green Koch brother.
965
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,080
Maybe.
966
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,600
Maybe.
967
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,480
I'm sorry I've done this to you today.
968
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,960
I didn't realize that was going to happen.
969
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,080
He walked into it like a buzzsaw.
970
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,820
The problem is I don't care.
971
00:56:32,820 --> 00:56:33,820
Let it settle in.
972
00:56:33,820 --> 00:56:35,320
Let it settle in.
973
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:40,520
Well, look, so we are now very Kennedy heavy.
974
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:48,400
I'm going to call an audible and not play most of what I have from the hearing.
975
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:53,360
I didn't have a ton because I have a new approach to these things.
976
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:58,760
I don't think we're here to provide big encapsulations of these giant hearings.
977
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,560
I think we're only going to pull out the things that are most interesting.
978
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,520
I pulled some clips that went viral that were up on Gateway Pundit.
979
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,400
I thought we could talk about those, but let's bypass those.
980
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:16,400
I want to go to just the one and only thing that I think was of real interest in this
981
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:22,280
hearing and that is the definite...
982
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:23,280
Let's see.
983
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:24,280
Here, we'll get...
984
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:30,380
There's a little bit of Massey at the beginning of this, but he teased up the question.
985
00:57:30,380 --> 00:57:36,440
This is a hearing on censorship that began with an effort with a formal motion from the
986
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:40,200
other side of the aisle to censor Mr. Kennedy.
987
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:45,080
They do not want him to speak, yet that is the topic of this hearing.
988
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,280
They have kept him from speaking.
989
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,960
A collusion between the government and private organizations.
990
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:57,480
Mr. Kennedy, in your opening statement, you introduced us to this word malinformation.
991
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:04,520
Can you tell us more about this made up word, what it means and some of the things that
992
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,520
you've said or tried to say that you've been censored for that's been characterized as
993
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:09,520
malinformation?
994
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,000
Now, I'm editing on the fly.
995
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:17,240
To your question, the term malinformation was coined to describe information that Facebook
996
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:22,120
and Twitter and the other social media sites understood was true, but that the White House
997
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:26,800
and other federal agencies wanted censored anyway for political reasons because it challenged
998
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:27,800
official orthodoxies.
999
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,280
That, I think, is probably the most important thing that came out of the hearing was just
1000
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:39,120
the highlighting of malinformation as a concept because that is the ratcheting up.
1001
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:44,020
You had disinformation, which came out of the KGB.
1002
00:58:44,020 --> 00:58:48,120
They invented the tactic of disinformation or lying.
1003
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:52,400
They didn't invent lying, they just, they invented the name.
1004
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:57,460
And then misinformation, which is people passing along inaccurate information.
1005
00:58:57,460 --> 00:59:01,180
They don't realize they're doing it, but that's what makes it misinformation.
1006
00:59:01,180 --> 00:59:05,240
It's like accidental passing of disinformation.
1007
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:11,680
And now they've invented something new called malinformation, which is information that's
1008
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:12,720
accurate.
1009
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:19,640
It's true, but it's disruptive to, I guess, national tranquility, peace and tranquility,
1010
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:26,580
contrary to national interests, against national security.
1011
00:59:26,580 --> 00:59:31,180
So people should just, I think, keep their ears open for malinformation.
1012
00:59:31,180 --> 00:59:34,040
We're going to get more of that.
1013
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:39,560
I think that's about as Orwellian as I've seen it get.
1014
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:45,060
Are you guilty of malinformation, Jeremy?
1015
00:59:45,060 --> 00:59:51,360
You mean just information that's dangerous, but true?
1016
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:52,360
Dangerous to the powers of the V.
1017
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:53,360
Yes, I'm guilty.
1018
00:59:53,360 --> 01:00:04,100
Yeah, so I think people need to keep their eyes open for the possibility that Kennedy
1019
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:10,760
is not what he is appearing to be.
1020
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,120
I think he is.
1021
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:20,440
I think I'm giving him room.
1022
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:26,920
I'm going to give him room to...
1023
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,160
How should I say it?
1024
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:32,400
To dump his stock in all the green tech that he has?
1025
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,400
Yeah.
1026
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,460
Yeah, give him room for that because I bet that's coming real soon.
1027
01:00:37,460 --> 01:00:40,200
I think it'll be interesting to see.
1028
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,080
He's a fascist, Jeremy.
1029
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:43,080
He's a fascist.
1030
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:49,160
He will use the government to destroy private enterprise he doesn't agree with.
1031
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:54,560
That's all I'm saying.
1032
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:55,560
You heard it here first.
1033
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,840
And that's why you're tuning into the Truthbait Podcast.
1034
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:08,040
That's right, ladies and gentlemen, we've arrived at that point in the podcast where
1035
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,880
we tell you how it is we make this all possible.
1036
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:16,000
We use something called the Value for Value model, and it's quite simple.
1037
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:21,360
You've just listened to an hour of this podcast, this amazing debate back and forth between
1038
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,880
Jeremy and myself on RFK.
1039
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,480
Junior, is he fascist?
1040
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:27,480
Is he not?
1041
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:28,880
Do you find value in this conversation?
1042
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,280
If you do, we ask you return value to the podcast.
1043
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,160
And there are a number of different ways to return value to the podcast.
1044
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,480
Jeremy, do you want to tell them how they can do it?
1045
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:44,960
Well, they can start by sharing the show, which is critical.
1046
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,880
They can also rate the show.
1047
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:53,160
They can volunteer to help the show.
1048
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:58,120
We asked in the last episode, if anybody out there listens to the show while they're sitting
1049
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:05,680
at a computer, that would be somebody that could maybe help to pull or record their favorite
1050
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:12,720
clips of particular episodes, be able to use those and share those around as promotional
1051
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,940
content for the show.
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01:02:14,940 --> 01:02:21,240
Those are just some ways that can be extremely helpful.
1053
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,720
Sunday Knows Content, too.
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01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:32,240
That really is one of the major sources of value coming back towards the show that has
1055
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,640
really been exciting to watch.
1056
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:40,120
People writing in, producers writing in with content that they're finding.
1057
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:47,560
Did you see Jeff from Elkhorn has been sending us...
1058
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:52,400
He's got a story he's working on, I think.
1059
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:53,400
Did you see that?
1060
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:54,800
Did you see it come across the email?
1061
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,680
I think I did see it come across.
1062
01:02:58,680 --> 01:02:59,680
Let's see.
1063
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,120
He wrote in...
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01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:07,440
He's writing in about this film from Grace Productions called The Essential Church.
1065
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:13,080
It is confirmed in 170 theaters, maybe more by now, because that was a couple of days
1066
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,080
ago.
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01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,040
I've never heard of this movie before.
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01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,680
It's at EssentialChurchMovie.com.
1069
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,880
He wrote 40 minutes in and it's excellent.
1070
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,320
I will offer thoughts after I've heard the entire podcast.
1071
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,000
Oh, wait, he's talking about us.
1072
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,000
Sorry.
1073
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,000
I thought he was talking about the film.
1074
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,760
I was wondering how did he watch the film so fast?
1075
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,360
Well, thank you for that compliment.
1076
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:42,760
I'd ask you both to consider seeing the movie documentary being released soon and being
1077
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:51,280
screened at our church, Essential Church Movie, and then he sends in the trailer.
1078
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:56,440
And let me just play a couple of minutes, a couple seconds of this.
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01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:01,280
God's truth is enduringly true throughout all the generations.
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01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,560
It transcends culture.
1081
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:08,880
The church is always going to be an embattled people.
1082
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,760
If it's swimming with the tide, it's not being the church of Jesus Christ.
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01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:19,200
Look to the past, learn from the past, because the whole world lies in the power of the evil
1084
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:20,200
one.
1085
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:24,200
China has more than 200 confirmed cases of coronavirus, it's called.
1086
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,280
The entire state of California ordered to stay at home.
1087
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,480
California has some of the strictest policies leveled against churches.
1088
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:35,320
We have a Newsom's executive order, threatens jail time and a thousand dollar a day fine.
1089
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,520
Government stopping people from going to church, Dr. Fauci.
1090
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:43,600
When I went into the White House, when I sat in on the task force meetings, was a shocking
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01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,720
level of gross incompetence.
1092
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:52,040
Mortality rate from the virus was 0.2%, you know, 99.8% survival, rather than the 3 or
1093
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,720
4% mortality that the people were saying at the time.
1094
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,440
The culture and the understanding of the people of Grace Church has always been, not only
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01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,960
do you obey government, but you honor government.
1096
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,440
Thousands of people in the streets, but you can't have church.
1097
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:11,720
The hypocrisy of letting people riot helped us all understand one thing, this is not what
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01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:12,720
they say it is.
1099
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:18,800
By me, so, we'll stop it there, that was about halfway through the trailer.
1100
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:19,920
It sounds interesting.
1101
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:25,920
I don't know, you know, this is the thing with films like this, will it speak outside
1102
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,720
the bubble, you know, or is it only going to speak to the bubble?
1103
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:35,440
And it's fine if it's a film that only speaks to the bubble, but, you know.
1104
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:44,280
I am slightly familiar with the film, I had seen the trailer.
1105
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:50,640
I know it's featuring John MacArthur, who's a pastor that I listen to regularly.
1106
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:59,840
And if you recall, he successfully sued the, I think Los Angeles County and State of California
1107
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:04,800
or whatever when they were trying to shut down his church and threatening him with arrest.
1108
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,000
He's got a pretty big church out there.
1109
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:08,000
And he won.
1110
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:12,360
He basically took a stand and said, we're not going to close and we're going to stay
1111
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,240
open and he won.
1112
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:18,280
And he won like $800,000 or something too.
1113
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:31,400
Like he won money, not just the right to stay and continue to conduct worship services.
1114
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:38,040
I think it probably is an important film for people to see.
1115
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,200
I agree with you.
1116
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:46,880
I think it's most likely a film that speaks to the echo chamber.
1117
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:53,160
And, you know, I don't mean that in a negative way when I say bubble or you say echo chamber.
1118
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:54,320
No, and that's right.
1119
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,920
I mean, it's a style of film.
1120
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,980
And some people will call this film a documentary style film.
1121
01:07:01,980 --> 01:07:04,680
We have kind of gotten away from calling it.
1122
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,840
I don't know exactly what they get into.
1123
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:07,840
That's the thing.
1124
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,760
Is it just a bunch of talking heads?
1125
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:18,080
And the way the trailer looks, it looks like it's a lot of interviews and then interspersed
1126
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:24,760
with some news footage or clips of riots or things that were going on during the time
1127
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,600
of COVID.
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01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:31,800
It'll be interesting to see because supposedly they get, I did read that they get into the
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01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:38,340
story of MacArthur and then this pastor up in Canada who was put in jail.
1130
01:07:38,340 --> 01:07:43,000
And then I think there's a third maybe in Scotland or something like that.
1131
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:44,840
And or New Zealand.
1132
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,200
I don't know which one, because there was one in New Zealand, I think that was getting
1133
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:48,200
threatened with jail.
1134
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:49,200
That's good.
1135
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:50,200
International film.
1136
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,920
International film.
1137
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:59,960
So like, did those guys, like, did MacArthur have a camera crew on him, like, while he
1138
01:07:59,960 --> 01:08:07,440
was doing his lawsuits and while he was basically not, you know, following the government orders
1139
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:13,960
where you've got a real documentary style film where you're, you know, in the action
1140
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:15,360
with him?
1141
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:20,400
Or is it basically all reflecting back on what happened?
1142
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,560
And retrospective is fine.
1143
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,320
And sometimes it's all you have.
1144
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,400
It's just a different kind of film.
1145
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:32,800
And this film, it looks like it's probably more not that, it looks like it's probably
1146
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,880
more like an informational advocacy.
1147
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,160
Like I said, it is a United film.
1148
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:38,160
Right.
1149
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,340
Like an advocacy type film that doesn't make it bad.
1150
01:08:41,340 --> 01:08:44,840
It doesn't make it unimportant.
1151
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:53,640
It can take away from what we often look for or try to do ourselves is to incorporate,
1152
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:57,040
you know, an entertainment factor.
1153
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:58,200
Human story.
1154
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,040
Human story with an arc, a narrative arc.
1155
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:02,040
Right.
1156
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:07,720
And you can't go around a story that is bad or negative or dark or scary.
1157
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:12,960
Doesn't mean all of the, you can, is there storytelling in there?
1158
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:18,600
Like did you follow the characters through the events as they were unfolding?
1159
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:23,920
It's hard for a lot of filmmakers to do because oftentimes you don't know, you know, about
1160
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,480
things going on until they've already gone on.
1161
01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:27,480
Right.
1162
01:09:27,480 --> 01:09:29,980
Well, you know, and you can't go back in time.
1163
01:09:29,980 --> 01:09:31,760
It's a lot of it's about structure though.
1164
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,620
Is there a protagonist?
1165
01:09:33,620 --> 01:09:36,960
And I don't mean is there a main subject.
1166
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:41,040
I mean, is there, like in Dinesh D'Souza's film, doesn't matter what film he's doing,
1167
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,640
does not matter what the topic is.
1168
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,500
He is the protagonist.
1169
01:09:44,500 --> 01:09:46,720
Same for Michael Moore.
1170
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,840
He was the protagonist of every single film.
1171
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,960
It's a narrative device.
1172
01:09:50,960 --> 01:10:00,600
And a lot of films like Citizens United films, they don't make effective use of a protagonist
1173
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,680
and an antagonist.
1174
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,120
Basic narrative storytelling techniques.
1175
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,120
Right.
1176
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:14,680
And they end up basically being, you know, for the most part, informational content,
1177
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:21,860
which does not make it bad or unimportant, but it does tend, I think, and you probably
1178
01:10:21,860 --> 01:10:28,160
agree with me, it does tend to limit the audience potential.
1179
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:29,160
Yes.
1180
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,560
Well, you're not going to change anybody's mind.
1181
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:35,720
You're just going to reinforce and clarify for people who already agree with you, which
1182
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:43,960
yeah, again, Citizens United was of great utility inside the movement.
1183
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,620
It galvanized a lot of people.
1184
01:10:45,620 --> 01:10:48,800
It helped them understand what was going on.
1185
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:54,320
It just, it was, you know, in terms of what we find interesting about filmmaking, which
1186
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:58,760
is outside of politics, outside of, you know, outside of any of that, it's what do we like
1187
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,680
in terms of filmmaking, storytelling?
1188
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,600
That's, you know, so will it succeed that way?
1189
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:09,680
I'd be, I'm very curious to know, and I'm looking forward to, he wrote today, he says,
1190
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,440
okay, this to me is a bigger story than Sound of Freedom.
1191
01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:16,440
This is, Jeff and Elkhorn wrote this.
1192
01:11:16,440 --> 01:11:17,920
This is a bigger story than Sound of Freedom.
1193
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:21,040
I'll try to get a lengthier response to you later this weekend.
1194
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,260
So Jeff and Elkhorn, thank you for writing.
1195
01:11:24,260 --> 01:11:25,760
You are a fantastic producer.
1196
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:33,160
I look forward to your more in-depth report on this film.
1197
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,080
Absolutely.
1198
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,120
I plan on seeing it.
1199
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:44,720
You know, I don't know if I'm going to see it at a pre-screening this weekend or something
1200
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:53,640
different, but you know, because it hits my community and the church community.
1201
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:54,640
That's what it's about.
1202
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,240
It's important.
1203
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:04,400
And I think too, even if it is just an informational type film, there's probably a lot of information
1204
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:05,400
that you never heard.
1205
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,240
Well, why is it going into theaters, Jeremy?
1206
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,640
Why is it going into theaters?
1207
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,360
Why are they doing that?
1208
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:15,920
Is that just a promotional thing?
1209
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:21,120
Because you're talking about an audience who have largely given up going to the theaters,
1210
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:22,840
haven't you?
1211
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:23,840
I don't know.
1212
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:34,200
It must be a marketing thing to try to trigger press.
1213
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:41,480
Maybe if they get it, like you've talked about four-walling strategies before and getting
1214
01:12:41,480 --> 01:12:45,940
into a certain number of theaters where you're going to end up triggering automatic press
1215
01:12:45,940 --> 01:12:52,960
coverage that way, which is going to create, you know, maybe that's their path toward trying
1216
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,400
to open up to a larger audience.
1217
01:12:55,400 --> 01:13:02,400
Well, all the more reason it needs to be a good narrative, entertaining, entertaining
1218
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:03,400
narrative.
1219
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:08,920
When you go into the theaters, people are coming with the expectation of being entertained,
1220
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,040
even when they're coming to see something serious or important.
1221
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,040
They expect to be entertaining.
1222
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:24,000
But entertaining doesn't mean like comedic or horror or adventure.
1223
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:29,620
Entertaining is, if you're watching a really good, one of my favorite documentaries I've
1224
01:13:29,620 --> 01:13:32,760
ever seen is called Magnus.
1225
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,520
Oh, sorry.
1226
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:36,520
And Hating Breitbart.
1227
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,760
It's the same kind of film.
1228
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:39,760
It's the same kind of film.
1229
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:40,760
Well, I stepped on the name of the film.
1230
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:42,760
What did you say it was?
1231
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:48,960
Magnus, and it's about Magnus Olsen, who's been the number one chess player in the world
1232
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:50,600
for like a decade now.
1233
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:55,800
And he might not be right now at this moment, but he's anyone that plays chess knows who
1234
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,540
Magnus Olsen is.
1235
01:13:57,540 --> 01:14:06,480
And his dad started recognized at a young age that his son, Magnus, was clearly going
1236
01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:09,440
to accelerate in chess.
1237
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:14,880
And he had him in chess tournaments like three, four years old, and he was filming all of
1238
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,720
it.
1239
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:21,240
And he has this guy's life documented.
1240
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:26,920
You know, there's video footage of all the big chess matches he plays, but not just the
1241
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:27,920
match.
1242
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:32,160
He's got the footage of him being nervous in the hotel room before the match.
1243
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:38,200
He's got the footage of him at the pool trying to unwind with his family and get rid of the,
1244
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:44,240
alleviate from the stress that he's under to perform against Garry Kasparov, you know,
1245
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:45,240
as a 13 year old.
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01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:50,000
The nitty gritty of humanity that everyone can relate to.
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01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:59,000
That creates this dramatic tension and energy as you're watching the events unfold that
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01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:04,680
is different than if you just interviewed all the top chess players in the world talking
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01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,560
about what a great chess player Magnus is, right?
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01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:15,040
Or read, or read, or read, right, or reliving how scared they were to play him or whatever.
1251
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:22,120
Those stories might be interesting to hear, but it just doesn't come across the screen
1252
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:27,320
the same way as when you feel like you're in the car with him.
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01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:34,160
And so that, I think that's, that, when you say entertaining, you know, entertaining doesn't
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01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:40,520
necessarily mean special effects, but it, but it has a story.
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01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:48,640
It has a narrative story that you as the viewer becomes connected to or attached to.
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01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:54,800
You start to find things about that character that even if you don't like the character,
1257
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:59,760
he becomes humanized in a way in which you can identify with him.
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01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:07,120
And even so like, you know, he does something like he likes dessert a lot and you like dessert
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01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:08,120
a lot.
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01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,480
So that becomes a thing that connects you to him.
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01:16:11,480 --> 01:16:16,040
And then it becomes a completely different experience as you watch the events of the
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01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:19,040
movie unfold.
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01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:22,960
So I think, you know, I don't know if that's going to be the case in this film.
1264
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,360
Well, but there are 170 theaters.
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01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,880
They have a huge opportunity.
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01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:33,160
If they are, they have a huge opportunity to cross over and reach a lot of people with
1267
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:38,080
their message that they might not already meet, that they might not get it anyways.
1268
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,480
And they, it could change hearts.
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01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:44,200
They have a real opportunity to open minds, open hearts.
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01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:50,200
And if it is just an informational film, it's a gigantic blown opportunity.
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01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,760
If it's a good story, then it's a great opportunity.
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01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,740
And you'll know whether or not they last.
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01:16:55,740 --> 01:16:59,520
If they're gone after the first week, then you'll know it was no good.
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01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:03,040
Because even if it triggers a lot of media and a lot of coverage and a lot of people
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01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:09,720
see it, those people are probably going to be people that already agree with the point
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01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,320
that, that they're trying to make.
1277
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:16,480
And again, that doesn't make it bad.
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01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:17,480
It does.
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01:17:17,480 --> 01:17:24,240
It's not that that's not worth doing, but it could be, you know, I don't know, different
1280
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:25,720
ways of making different movies.
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01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:31,920
I think it is why Sound of Freedom is doing so well because they, you know, they, while
1282
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:40,800
I think they manufactured the ground swell that helped give the film lift off, it worked
1283
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,080
because it was a good, it's a good story.
1284
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:45,800
It's a, it's dramatic.
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01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,240
It does exactly what you're talking about.
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01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:55,440
You connect emotionally with the characters on screen and it's, it's harder to do that.
1287
01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:56,440
It's different.
1288
01:17:56,440 --> 01:17:58,320
It's a different approach when it's documentary.
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01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,440
Actually, I don't know that it's harder.
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01:18:00,440 --> 01:18:02,440
It takes longer.
1291
01:18:02,440 --> 01:18:05,480
And your takes longer, it costs more money.
1292
01:18:05,480 --> 01:18:07,200
Well, you're a slave to the truth.
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01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:11,640
You have to, you have to look for where it actually exists, where those connectable moments
1294
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:12,640
actually exist.
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01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:18,000
And you have to know how to identify them when they're happening in front of you.
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01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,280
But it's the same idea.
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01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:24,680
You've got to create those moments where the viewer connects in a way that is not informational.
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01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:25,680
It's emotional.
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01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,840
And a way that, right.
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01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:32,840
What you would do if you and I were directing this film, we would want, and I'm not saying
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01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:37,200
they haven't done this, but what we would want to do is we would want to be able to
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01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:44,640
get people who hate John MacArthur to somehow see his softer side.
1303
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:45,640
Yes.
1304
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:55,040
And somehow through a joke he tells in a car ride or something where maybe he's nervous
1305
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:59,380
on his way to court, and anybody would be nervous on their way to court.
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01:18:59,380 --> 01:19:05,640
So then anybody that's watching that, even if they don't like him, can get connected
1307
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,160
to him in that way.
1308
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,480
There becomes a human connection to the character that way.
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01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:13,700
And then they're emotionally invested in it.
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01:19:13,700 --> 01:19:18,280
So that when they're in the courtroom and he wins, even if they thought all the churches
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01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:22,160
should be closed, they feel good about him winning.
1312
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:23,160
Right.
1313
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:24,160
Exactly.
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01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,720
I'm giving you a bell for that one.
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01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:27,720
Thank you.
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01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:28,720
Yes.
1317
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:29,720
Once you've connected with...
1318
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:33,440
I've redeemed myself from my blind support of Kennedy, have I?
1319
01:19:33,440 --> 01:19:39,080
Your delusional support of Kennedy.
1320
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:43,440
You are always redeemed in my eyes, my friend.
1321
01:19:43,440 --> 01:19:44,440
So yes, look forward to...
1322
01:19:44,440 --> 01:19:46,440
I'm moved by my savior.
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01:19:46,440 --> 01:19:47,440
Don't call me that.
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01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:53,540
I look forward to the report from Jeff.
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01:19:53,540 --> 01:19:56,840
We should also mention Al in Joliet.
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01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:03,840
Executive producer Al has sent in a bunch of amazing stuff, one of which is...
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01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,400
And we should make sure to close out the Ask segment.
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01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,800
Write us at truthatruthbait.com.
1329
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:15,120
That is the best way to get a hold of us, share the show.
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01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:22,440
And I wanted to close it out because this is a difficult story.
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01:20:22,440 --> 01:20:31,120
Al sent us the story of Brittany Pearson, who is a surrogate.
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01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:38,760
And I know you probably have opinions on surrogacy, pregnancy surrogacy.
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01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:42,880
Two men hired Brittany Pearson to create their, quote, dream family.
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01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,020
This is from Lila Rose on her Twitter thread.
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01:20:46,020 --> 01:20:52,560
By the end of the process, a 25-week-old baby was murdered.
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01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:57,320
She writes, while pregnant, Brittany received a breast cancer diagnosis and decided to deliver
1337
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:03,340
the baby early at 25 weeks so she could receive chemo treatment while giving the child a possible
1338
01:21:03,340 --> 01:21:05,340
chance of survival.
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01:21:05,340 --> 01:21:10,800
But the purchasing couple didn't want to pay Brittany for a baby born before 38 weeks
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01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:14,920
due to the potential health problems of the premature baby.
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01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:19,680
They demanded the baby be immediately terminated.
1342
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:24,220
When Brittany refused to kill the baby, they threatened legal action.
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01:21:24,220 --> 01:21:29,800
When she offered to adopt the child, they demanded a death certificate.
1344
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:35,300
Surrogacy laws in California give no rights to Brittany or the baby.
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01:21:35,300 --> 01:21:41,880
She was able to deliver the baby at 25 weeks, but the purchasing couple had, quote, ownership
1346
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,820
of the child after birth.
1347
01:21:44,820 --> 01:21:49,560
The baby boy died shortly after birth.
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01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:54,640
From the moment of conception, he was stripped of his fundamental rights and treated as a
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01:21:54,640 --> 01:22:07,800
product that could be, actually it got cut off on my page there, treated like a product.
1350
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:16,160
I went and I found an interview that she gave, this is just a few days ago.
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01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,160
Let's listen to Brittany.
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01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:22,400
And then instantly, like with my OB, I was like, I want to continue this pregnancy.
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01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:26,200
I want to do whatever I can do to make sure that baby is okay.
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01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:30,800
And like to save us both basically was my main goal.
1355
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:34,800
Their goal was to get me to with the four-
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01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:40,680
She's talking about the people that had hired her.
1357
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:46,160
Their goal was to get me to with the four different chemo treatments would get me to
1358
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:47,240
34 weeks and then-
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01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,640
I'm sorry, no, when she's talking about the goal, she's talking about how far along she
1360
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:55,260
was hoping to get before she would deliver the baby.
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01:22:55,260 --> 01:22:59,080
We would take a few weeks to let my body recover and then we would deliver.
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01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,200
So it really would be like 36.
1363
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:02,200
So almost filter.
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01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,200
And they still, they weren't okay with that.
1365
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:09,480
They wanted nothing earlier than 39 weeks, no matter what, which you can't even guarantee
1366
01:23:09,480 --> 01:23:12,440
that when there's no cancer involved.
1367
01:23:12,440 --> 01:23:17,040
When there's nothing else, you still can't guarantee a 39 week delivery anyway.
1368
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:22,180
They just started threatening like lawsuits and like, Oh, did you guys know she had cancer
1369
01:23:22,180 --> 01:23:23,880
or how she had cancer before?
1370
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:28,480
They started coming up with all these questions of stuff that were like, I didn't expect because
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01:23:28,480 --> 01:23:31,600
we had a good relationship before this.
1372
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:37,920
Well, that's the risk I think that you take in this kind of a situation.
1373
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:42,880
It's why it's illegal in a lot of places around the world.
1374
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:47,640
And instantly they were just like, we want to terminate, that's it.
1375
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:49,280
That's the only conversation they would have.
1376
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,880
They're like terminate, that's it.
1377
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:57,440
And my OB tried, the attorneys tried, we all tried, I tried my agency.
1378
01:23:57,440 --> 01:23:59,440
It was just, they're like, absolutely not.
1379
01:23:59,440 --> 01:24:00,840
We don't want that.
1380
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:02,760
We want the baby terminated.
1381
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:08,480
And was it part of your contract that you had to terminate if they, if they wanted you
1382
01:24:08,480 --> 01:24:09,480
to or?
1383
01:24:09,480 --> 01:24:10,480
No.
1384
01:24:10,480 --> 01:24:16,040
So in the contract, basically what it said was I had full control over my body.
1385
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:19,120
So basically while he's inside of me, I had a hundred percent control.
1386
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:24,480
The minute that he is born, the parents have a hundred percent control.
1387
01:24:24,480 --> 01:24:25,640
Right.
1388
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:27,920
I started meds to induce labor.
1389
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:32,880
I had him 4 a.m. or 4 15 ish that Sunday Father's Day.
1390
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:34,960
I didn't hold him.
1391
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,360
I looked at him and they gave me pictures and like a box of stuff.
1392
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:39,800
My mom held him.
1393
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:43,280
So he, so he was, you know, cared for and loved a little bit.
1394
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:49,440
I don't know how much that means to most people, but he was, he was held and wrapped up and
1395
01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:54,400
swaddled and he, he didn't, he didn't make it.
1396
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,180
Obviously he's not alive, but.
1397
01:24:56,180 --> 01:25:00,840
So he was born alive but not giving, not giving the life saving measures.
1398
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:08,480
They, yeah, I just don't want to, I don't want to go too much into detail on the actual
1399
01:25:08,480 --> 01:25:13,520
part of that, but he, he was held and cared for and loved for a short amount of time before
1400
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,400
they took him.
1401
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:29,280
So the baby was born premature, but certainly in many instances these days viable.
1402
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:38,320
And because the surrogacy laws in California grant the purchasers, it's unbelievable that
1403
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:41,800
it's, that's pretty much how it's looked at.
1404
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:51,720
They have full rights and in California you actually have the right to deny life saving
1405
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:57,200
care to the baby and let it die.
1406
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:03,960
Essentially a post birth abortion or more accurately termed murder.
1407
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,960
It's murder.
1408
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:16,280
I think it's important to note that the couple is a gay couple, two men.
1409
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:21,280
And the reason that I think that that's important to note is because clearly in the decision
1410
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:30,320
making process here there was zero maternal instinct going on, present in what they were
1411
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:31,880
doing.
1412
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:38,240
It sounds like, you know, as the world turns, maybe we'll find out that the story is the
1413
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,080
exact opposite of what we think.
1414
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:47,440
But at first blush, looking at this, this looks like the logical result of progressive
1415
01:26:47,440 --> 01:26:57,400
policies that cheapen human life and allow a baby to die, preventing it from having life
1416
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,960
saving care, life support.
1417
01:26:59,960 --> 01:27:09,840
Because it's just going to be too much trouble.
1418
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,560
That's one of the sickest stories I've ever heard.
1419
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:13,560
Right.
1420
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:18,520
That's why I wanted to end the ask section so that we were in a different, a different
1421
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:24,240
segment that demarcated how ugly this story was.
1422
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:25,240
Last sound bite from her.
1423
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:30,160
It's, I don't want to say ironic because it's not funny in any way, but the baby was born
1424
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,600
on Father's Day morning at 4am.
1425
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:37,080
So it's like Father's Day the rest of their life, you know, they're going to have to think
1426
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:38,080
about their baby.
1427
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:40,880
That's the day their baby was born.
1428
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:45,120
If they even still think of it as a baby, they kept calling it a fetus.
1429
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:46,920
Every appointment they just say the fetus, the fetus.
1430
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:51,280
And even every doctor, like, yeah, the baby, because it's a baby, it's 25 weeks.
1431
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:56,760
Like it's a viable child, you know, when it's born.
1432
01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:01,180
They struggled to find a hospital where she could give birth to the baby because the couple
1433
01:28:01,180 --> 01:28:07,880
were threatening to sue every institution that they were trying to go avoid an abortion
1434
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,680
at and try to give birth.
1435
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,640
California.
1436
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:21,880
Well, they are going to face the Creator someday.
1437
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:26,040
And God has a plan that is good.
1438
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:35,720
And even in horrible stories like that, God's plan and God's will is good.
1439
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:42,400
And so even when it's hard to see or know what it is he's doing, that's what I
1440
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:43,400
trust.
1441
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:44,400
I trust that.
1442
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,360
I just trust it.
1443
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:54,320
That's what my faith is in that there's some greater good he was working there.
1444
01:28:54,320 --> 01:29:03,540
And who knows, maybe that's part of people hearing that story that could change people's
1445
01:29:03,540 --> 01:29:04,540
minds in the future.
1446
01:29:04,540 --> 01:29:07,960
Yeah, perhaps wake some people up, huh?
1447
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,880
You know, I don't know.
1448
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:11,880
I don't know what it is.
1449
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:21,320
I certainly can't begin to read God's mind, but I do trust without a doubt that his plan
1450
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:29,440
and his will is good and all the bad that we have in this world to deal with.
1451
01:29:29,440 --> 01:29:32,960
That interview was with Ali Bestucky.
1452
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:37,600
Yeah, I recognized her voice.
1453
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,000
And I had heard some other people mention that to me.
1454
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:43,280
I didn't want to go without saying who that was.
1455
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:46,720
Yeah, ugly story.
1456
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:51,560
Alan also sent in something else, which is not quite so ugly.
1457
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:55,560
Well, it depends on your, I guess it depends on your point of view.
1458
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:59,440
You know the rapper, is it for Giotto?
1459
01:29:59,440 --> 01:30:02,840
For Giotto Blow, aka the mayor of Moggaville.
1460
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:09,920
You may not know him by name, but you'll probably recognize this if I play it for you.
1461
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:17,520
Yeah, I saw this.
1462
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:35,640
You know where I'm going with this?
1463
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:40,760
This is...
1464
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:56,000
Here, let me play it.
1465
01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:10,720
Have you seen the video?
1466
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:11,720
I did.
1467
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:12,720
Okay.
1468
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:13,720
She is...
1469
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:18,640
Let me tell you why I watched it.
1470
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:27,880
I watched it for validation of all of my opinions about Empty Green.
1471
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:33,960
Don't you think it's edgy that she's up on the car like you would traditionally see in
1472
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,080
a rap video?
1473
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:37,440
She would be in a bikini.
1474
01:31:37,440 --> 01:31:38,440
She's not in a bikini.
1475
01:31:38,440 --> 01:31:40,760
She's in a very short skirt.
1476
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:47,960
She's like one of those babes in a rap video with dollar bills being thrown at her while
1477
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:49,840
she twerks.
1478
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:52,680
This sealed the deal for me.
1479
01:31:52,680 --> 01:32:03,560
I mean, eliminated 100% any doubt I might have had about my opinions about her being
1480
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,400
a total fraud.
1481
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:06,400
She likes Kennedy.
1482
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:11,400
I like Kennedy.
1483
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:15,080
The only reason she likes Kennedy is to scare people away from him.
1484
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:16,080
I don't know that she likes Kennedy.
1485
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:19,080
I just jam it in.
1486
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:22,680
Well, that would be why.
1487
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:23,680
Yeah.
1488
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:25,680
So, thank you, Alan.
1489
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:27,920
Good stuff.
1490
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:32,680
I watched that and I was just like, wow.
1491
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:34,020
She looks terrible in it.
1492
01:32:34,020 --> 01:32:35,720
She looks confused.
1493
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:37,400
She doesn't even know where she's supposed to be.
1494
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:42,160
She's just standing there awkwardly.
1495
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:45,720
You just can't redo...
1496
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:49,680
You can't reinvent the Super Bowl shuffle.
1497
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:50,680
Yeah.
1498
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,560
Is that what they're trying to do here?
1499
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,360
Do you remember the Super Bowl shuffle?
1500
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:56,720
I wish I'd known you were going to bring that up.
1501
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:58,680
Now I've got to go look for it.
1502
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:06,560
The 1985 Bears, they were so good and they were so arrogant and cocky and they all had
1503
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:08,200
personalities.
1504
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:16,240
And then they made this 80s rap R&B song that was like...
1505
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:20,800
Oh my gosh.
1506
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:24,200
They're all up on stage in their...
1507
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,040
I have the 45.
1508
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:27,040
I have the 45.
1509
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:28,040
You have the 45.
1510
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:29,040
Yeah.
1511
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:30,040
I have the 45 record.
1512
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:31,040
That's great.
1513
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:42,920
And I used to listen to that every day, all day.
1514
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:45,520
It was the biggest thing.
1515
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:50,200
We performed it at the school sing, like the spring sing.
1516
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:51,200
Wait a second.
1517
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:52,200
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
1518
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,760
A bunch of white kids?
1519
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,360
Bunch of white kids wearing football jerseys.
1520
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:59,160
A bunch of white Jews?
1521
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:00,160
Yep.
1522
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:01,160
I can't say.
1523
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:04,160
That was like 99%.
1524
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:09,600
Listen, I did my own fair share of break dancing at Bar Mitzvahs when I was a kid.
1525
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:10,600
Yeah.
1526
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,200
And it was huge.
1527
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:14,200
Wasn't it like a gold record?
1528
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:15,200
I mean, it went huge.
1529
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:16,200
Yes.
1530
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:17,200
It was huge.
1531
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:18,200
It was perfectly timed.
1532
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:19,200
It was well marketed.
1533
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:20,200
Yes.
1534
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:21,200
It was enormous.
1535
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:25,920
It was huge.
1536
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:34,000
There are always politicians now or media people, they'll go and they'll do things to get attention
1537
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:35,000
or whatever.
1538
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:39,720
And sometimes they're mildly successful.
1539
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:43,720
To me, they're all like an attempt at redoing the Super Bowl shuffle.
1540
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:47,160
I'm doing something that you would never normally expect me to do.
1541
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:48,640
I'm getting into a rap video.
1542
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:49,640
Here, wait, let's compare them.
1543
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:52,640
Because they were like the first team that they were-
1544
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:56,920
Okay, now let's listen to MTG.
1545
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,920
You're right.
1546
01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:15,680
It's the same thing.
1547
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:29,700
The problem is you cannot outdo the 85 Bears and you cannot outdo the Super Bowl shuffle.
1548
01:35:29,700 --> 01:35:30,700
You're empty green.
1549
01:35:30,700 --> 01:35:33,200
You're Marjorie Taylor green.
1550
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:35,840
You're not a rapper.
1551
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:36,840
You're not a rapper.
1552
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:40,920
And by the way, nobody wants you to be a rapper.
1553
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:43,820
I don't need Congress people.
1554
01:35:43,820 --> 01:35:52,920
People are supposed to be statesmen going and basically being a joke.
1555
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,000
Well, hold on a second.
1556
01:35:55,000 --> 01:36:01,280
Let me just hold you up right there because we've all seen the glorious footage of Donald
1557
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:06,880
Trump at the WWE or WWF or whatever they're calling themselves now.
1558
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:08,000
Wrestling.
1559
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:09,880
He was a bad guy wrestler.
1560
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:10,880
Yeah.
1561
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:12,600
Is he still?
1562
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,680
I think that's what she's trying to emulate.
1563
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:18,520
She's trying to be bad brand, dark Brandon.
1564
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:22,080
She's trying to be dark empty.
1565
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:23,720
She is, but it doesn't work.
1566
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:27,400
All you end up looking like is a white girl in a rap video.
1567
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:28,400
I agree with you.
1568
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,520
It ain't working in this case.
1569
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:33,560
She's failing miserably in this.
1570
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:42,140
Trump doing WWE was prior to his career as a president of the United States.
1571
01:36:42,140 --> 01:36:44,360
He's not doing that now.
1572
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:45,360
And I don't like that either.
1573
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:47,080
It's stupid too.
1574
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:48,600
But he was an entertainer.
1575
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:50,400
The guy was an entertainer.
1576
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:51,400
Right.
1577
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:52,400
Exactly.
1578
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:53,400
She is not.
1579
01:36:53,400 --> 01:37:01,320
I mean, she's supposed to be the politician coming in and getting serious in DC.
1580
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:05,560
You know, and oh yeah, what was this for?
1581
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:07,960
Celebrating impeachment week that never did anything productive?
1582
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:08,960
Right.
1583
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:09,960
Exactly.
1584
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:10,960
I have no idea.
1585
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:16,880
I think it's a bad look for the rapper, for Giotto.
1586
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:19,720
He looks like a sellout now.
1587
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:21,600
It's a bad look for her.
1588
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:23,720
It's just the whole fit.
1589
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:27,360
She's in that weird satanic throne.
1590
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:28,800
She doesn't look comfortable there.
1591
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:30,880
Trump would look comfortable in any setting like this.
1592
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,560
Trump would have no problem pulling this off.
1593
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:36,160
Plus he has good dance moves.
1594
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:37,160
Right.
1595
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:38,160
That's what I'm saying.
1596
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:43,600
He would make himself at home in any of these situations and he would fit in.
1597
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:44,600
In his Trump way.
1598
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:45,600
Doesn't she look...
1599
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:47,520
She doesn't.
1600
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:53,440
She kind of has this look on her face like, should I really have listened to Milo?
1601
01:37:53,440 --> 01:37:54,440
What am I doing here?
1602
01:37:54,440 --> 01:37:55,440
Tell me.
1603
01:37:55,440 --> 01:37:56,440
Tell me to do this.
1604
01:37:56,440 --> 01:37:57,440
This is a very Milo move.
1605
01:37:57,440 --> 01:37:59,440
I think Milo might have been behind this.
1606
01:37:59,440 --> 01:38:00,440
Right.
1607
01:38:00,440 --> 01:38:01,440
She might still be listening to Milo.
1608
01:38:01,440 --> 01:38:02,440
Is that what you're saying?
1609
01:38:02,440 --> 01:38:03,440
She's still listening to Milo?
1610
01:38:03,440 --> 01:38:04,440
Yes.
1611
01:38:04,440 --> 01:38:05,440
Yes.
1612
01:38:05,440 --> 01:38:06,440
Totally.
1613
01:38:06,440 --> 01:38:07,440
I'm a little slow to catch up, but yeah, I think you're right.
1614
01:38:07,440 --> 01:38:08,440
I'm giving you another bell.
1615
01:38:08,440 --> 01:38:09,440
This is a Milo move.
1616
01:38:09,440 --> 01:38:10,440
Yeah.
1617
01:38:10,440 --> 01:38:11,440
Thank you, Alan.
1618
01:38:11,440 --> 01:38:12,440
Keep it coming.
1619
01:38:12,440 --> 01:38:13,440
Alan Joliet, everybody.
1620
01:38:13,440 --> 01:38:14,440
I'm going to play...
1621
01:38:14,440 --> 01:38:15,440
I'm going to put my tinfoil hat on here.
1622
01:38:15,440 --> 01:38:16,440
I want to shift gears and go a little bit conspiracy theory.
1623
01:38:16,440 --> 01:38:44,880
So, you know, we've talked in the past on this show about my theory that it's possible
1624
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:48,640
that China was behind 9-11.
1625
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:54,920
And the main motivation for them was to drive a long-term wedge between the United States
1626
01:38:54,920 --> 01:39:03,000
and Saudi Arabia, which the way that that was executed did exactly that, as a means
1627
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:13,160
to collapse the US-Saudi petrodollar, which is what gave the US dollar global supremacy
1628
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:19,120
and allowed the US to spend like drunken sailors, never worry about debt, always just pawn it
1629
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:24,000
off on other countries who were holding dollar debt because that was the only currency that
1630
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:27,440
mattered.
1631
01:39:27,440 --> 01:39:33,000
I think I've found something that might...
1632
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:37,680
I don't know if that corroborates it, but it's more circumstantial evidence that I might
1633
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,160
be correct.
1634
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:43,600
Do you know about...well, you've heard of 9-11, right?
1635
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:47,640
Yeah, it's a convenience store.
1636
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:49,440
No, that's 7-11.
1637
01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:50,440
Oh.
1638
01:39:50,440 --> 01:39:53,920
9-11, the gigantic terrorist attack that occurred.
1639
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:54,920
Yes.
1640
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:56,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1641
01:39:56,400 --> 01:40:01,400
Well, and we've also talked about the possibility that our own CIA was involved, and I'm not
1642
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:04,300
sure that these things are mutually exclusive.
1643
01:40:04,300 --> 01:40:12,400
When you look at an open communist like Brennan, wasn't his thing...the first candidate he
1644
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:14,960
ever voted for was a communist?
1645
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:22,200
Well, he was an actual...he actually was a card-carrying member of the CPUSA.
1646
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:26,440
So yeah, okay, well, that's shocking.
1647
01:40:26,440 --> 01:40:33,560
Which means you have to live five years without brushing your teeth.
1648
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:36,240
That's gross.
1649
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:40,360
He was the director of the CIA for a time, so I'm not sure that it's mutually exclusive
1650
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:48,240
that China might have been behind 9-11, and it was also partially an inside job.
1651
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:53,120
This is...so you're aware of the first 9-11, or our 9-11.
1652
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:58,000
Are you aware of what is regarded as the first 9-11?
1653
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:01,240
No.
1654
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:08,080
Neither was I, until while I was traveling down a different rabbit hole related to Code
1655
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:12,600
Pink and whether or not Code Pink is an op, which I kind of think Code Pink is an op,
1656
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:20,840
which has taken me many years to come to that conclusion, I found this quote from Noam Chomsky.
1657
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:25,480
When we talk about terrorism, it means what they do to us, not what we do to them.
1658
01:41:25,480 --> 01:41:31,280
And what they do to us can be pretty ugly, although it's not even a fraction of what
1659
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:32,280
we do to them.
1660
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:33,280
I mean, take, say, 9-11.
1661
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:39,880
That was a pretty serious act of terrorism, maybe the worst single act of terrorism in
1662
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:41,880
history, but it could have been worse.
1663
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:48,480
I mean, suppose, for example, that Al-Qaeda had bombed Washington, bombed the White House,
1664
01:41:48,480 --> 01:41:54,360
it killed the president, installed a harsh military dictatorship, brought in a bunch
1665
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:59,280
of economists who drove the economy into its worst disaster in history.
1666
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:01,760
Well, that would have been worse than 9-11.
1667
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:03,560
And I'm not making it up.
1668
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:04,560
It happened.
1669
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:09,360
What's called the first 9-11 in South America, namely in Chile.
1670
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:16,240
On the 11th of September, 1973, the democratically elected Chilean president, Salvador Allende,
1671
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:18,960
was overthrown in a coup.
1672
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:25,800
A dictatorship under Augusto Pinochet was established that ruled Chile until 1990.
1673
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:29,960
There was the systematic suppression of all political dissidents.
1674
01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:32,800
Thousands were imprisoned and murdered.
1675
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:35,080
Who was involved in that first 9-11?
1676
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:41,560
It's not hard to find them, right in Washington and London and so on.
1677
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:43,880
But that's off the agenda.
1678
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:47,400
It doesn't count.
1679
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:50,240
So that was the first 9-11 and that got me curious.
1680
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:58,640
So I went to Producer GPT and I asked, what was China's role in this particular September
1681
01:42:58,640 --> 01:42:59,640
11th?
1682
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:06,480
And Producer GPT writes, China's role in the events of September 11th, 1973, and the Chilean
1683
01:43:06,480 --> 01:43:09,600
coup was somewhat complex.
1684
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:15,240
At that time, China was under leadership of Mao Zedong and the Communist Party of China.
1685
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:19,880
China's foreign policy during the 1970s was driven by its aim to consolidate its influence
1686
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:24,680
and expand its ties with other countries in the developing world, especially those with
1687
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:27,500
leftist or socialist governments.
1688
01:43:27,500 --> 01:43:31,600
In the case of Chile, China had established diplomatic relations with the country during
1689
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:33,960
President Allende's tenure.
1690
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:38,560
The two nations shared a common ideological bond as socialist states.
1691
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:47,960
So I like how Producer GPT, Chad GPT, uses socialist and communist interchangeably.
1692
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:53,680
Our American socialists might be offended by that, but they're the ones doing it.
1693
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:56,840
Which facilitated cooperation and friendly relations.
1694
01:43:56,840 --> 01:44:01,020
After the coup, China expressed concern and disapproval over the overthrow of a fellow
1695
01:44:01,020 --> 01:44:02,920
socialist government.
1696
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:08,640
It firmly condemned the military intervention of Chile and condemned what it perceived as
1697
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:14,760
the interference of the United States in Latin American affairs.
1698
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:24,720
So I think that 9-11, why did they pick the date 9-11?
1699
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:37,720
Yeah, that's really interesting and so I had been traveling in South America about,
1700
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:44,360
I don't know, 15, 20 years ago for several months.
1701
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:53,360
I was, I basically hitchhiked from Columbia all the way down to the tip of South America.
1702
01:44:53,360 --> 01:45:00,320
And everywhere I went, you tell somebody you're from Chicago or whatever and then people are
1703
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:05,960
like, oh Chicago, Michael Jordan, Al Capone and they really like you and stuff.
1704
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:09,080
Could you imagine if you did that with races?
1705
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:10,960
You know, that was around the time when George Bush-
1706
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:14,120
Oh Jews, gefilte fish, yeah, money, yeah.
1707
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:17,720
That was in, that was around 05, I think 06.
1708
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:22,840
George Bush was president and we were being constantly told by the media how much the
1709
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:28,620
world hates us and how stupid we are and how bad we are looking to the whole world.
1710
01:45:28,620 --> 01:45:30,800
And I never found that anywhere I went.
1711
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:35,560
In any country I found people just love America, want to come to America, have a cousin in
1712
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:36,560
America.
1713
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:37,920
Like, I would be like, I'm from Chicago.
1714
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:41,320
They'd be like, oh, I have a cousin in Tulsa.
1715
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:42,320
I feel like there's a giant-
1716
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:43,320
No idea.
1717
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:46,600
I feel like there's a giant butt coming.
1718
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:48,120
Till I got to Chile.
1719
01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:51,880
Yes.
1720
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:57,440
When I got to Chile was the first, I went through about, I don't know, I think 16 or
1721
01:45:57,440 --> 01:46:00,520
17 countries in seven months.
1722
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:08,240
And when I got to Chile, Chile, that was the first place I got to where like I had this
1723
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:19,640
overall general sense of the national people not liking me because I was American.
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01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:23,240
Did you ever figure out why at the time or did you just move through it?
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01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:32,160
And there was a guy who I met while hiking through a national park down all the way,
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01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:36,320
like way, way, way down there in the tip of the continent.
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01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:38,920
And he was Chilean and he sort of explained it to me.
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And he said that they had elected the socialist president and we installed Pinochet, this
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01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:53,320
horrible dictator there.
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01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:57,720
And basically they've never gotten over that.
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01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:01,480
It's sort of hard to get over that.
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And that they just said, and for me I was like kind of shocked and surprised.
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01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:12,800
It's like America has, all I think is America's good.
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All we do is good things.
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01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:19,320
I was surprised to hear him saying this stuff.
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01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:26,920
And that's what he explained to me is that they had elected this president and by a big
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01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:32,600
margin of victory and he was wildly popular and he was a socialist.
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01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:36,280
And we went in and overthrew him and put in Pinochet.
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01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:45,800
And Pinochet was a really brutal dictator and people were disappearing and they still
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01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:49,240
harbor resentment there against us because of that.
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01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:56,000
So that's what you're playing to me sounds very plausible.
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01:47:56,000 --> 01:48:02,200
So you're saying that they did not learn their lesson.
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01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:04,240
Learn their lesson how?
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01:48:04,240 --> 01:48:10,040
Don't elect a commie.
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01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:14,040
Don't elect a commie or we'll shove a fascist down your throat.
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Take your pick.
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01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:17,280
They're commie or are fascist.
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01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:19,560
Well that's what we said.
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01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:21,280
I think that's what we said at the time.
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01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:25,360
There is the argument for not letting China get a toll hold somewhere.
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01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:26,360
I don't know.
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01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:28,720
In retrospect maybe that wasn't such a bad idea.
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01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:29,720
I don't know.
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01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:33,440
I can't, I'm not here to judge what happened in Chile.
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01:48:33,440 --> 01:48:34,600
You may be right.
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01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:36,760
It may be we just shafted them.
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01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:41,800
It may be, hey, you know what, elect a commie, you get what you deserve.
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01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:45,240
Irrelevant to me.
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01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:54,800
To me it is just a big piece of circumstantial evidence that 9-11 was originated out of China,
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01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:57,080
out of the CPC.
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01:48:57,080 --> 01:49:04,960
And they used our, the jihadists that we built, that we paid for, they used our network to
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01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:07,100
attack us, which was brilliant.
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01:49:07,100 --> 01:49:11,680
They did it in a way that made Saudi Arabia look like the villain, which created the wedge
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01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:15,160
between us and now they are best friends with Saudi Arabia.
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01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:21,480
The petrodollar is collapsing, BRICS is on the rise, and it happened on 9-11, which is
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01:49:21,480 --> 01:49:25,400
like a big middle finger to the CIA.
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01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:29,440
Yeah, it totally makes sense.
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01:49:29,440 --> 01:49:38,880
It fits with their guy that they had elected being a socialist and Chinese communists and
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01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:46,800
Mao Zedong being mad about overthrowing the government.
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01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:52,920
Yep, it was revenge.
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01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:54,560
And our government knew it right away.
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01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:59,920
That's why their whole position was this is an attempt to drive a wedge between the US
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01:49:59,920 --> 01:50:00,960
and Saudi Arabia.
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01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:10,440
They knew right away what the motive was because of the calling card of the date.
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01:50:10,440 --> 01:50:15,320
Our CIA knew.
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01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:20,920
And I think that it also could have very well been a bit of an inside job when you have
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01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:23,840
people like Brennan running your CIA.
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01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:26,120
Anything is possible.
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01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:31,320
Well he was a card carrying member of the Communist Party USA, so wouldn't he be on
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01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:34,240
the side of China naturally?
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01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:37,240
Right?
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01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:41,720
That's crazy talk, Jeremy.
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01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:45,120
You're a conspiracy theorist.
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01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:52,960
Well I know one thing is that there's a really good rap video out about Target and empty
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01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:56,840
green and that's going to save us all.
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01:50:56,840 --> 01:51:01,960
If you watch those videos, you will save the country and if you go see Sound of Freedom,
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01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:10,880
you will save children.
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01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:12,320
I'm bumping a whole bunch of content.
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01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:14,600
We'll get to it on Tuesday.
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01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:19,920
I'm eager for us and everyone to get to their weekend.
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01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:23,120
This came from Gateway Pundit.
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01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:30,520
FIFA, the soccer, the world soccer organization, FIFA begs fans to do the right thing and buy
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01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:37,680
tickets as Women's World Cup gets underway with many unsold seats.
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01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:41,840
And that's always a good look when you have to beg people to buy tickets.
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01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:45,240
I think they're even giving them away and they can't give them away.
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01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:50,380
The article says the Associated Press, let's see, a large problem, said the Associated
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01:51:50,380 --> 01:51:56,160
Press, is that soccer is not generally a widely supported sport in New Zealand where they're
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01:51:56,160 --> 01:52:01,700
holding the event and attracting fans to stadiums in the coldest months of the year was always
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01:52:01,700 --> 01:52:04,800
going to be a hard sell.
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01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:12,240
So clearly the organization hates women.
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01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:21,200
They put their championship event in a country that doesn't like soccer in the worst season
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01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:28,800
for attracting fans in that climate, the coldest months of the year.
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01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:37,080
Here is the director of FIFA begging people to come to the events.
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01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:42,680
Which are New Zealand media there on the camera?
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01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:43,680
No, no, on the cameras.
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01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:45,280
So I watch that.
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01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:48,880
New Zealand, we want you.
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01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:49,880
We need you.
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01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:51,200
It's never too late to do the right thing.
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01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:52,640
Come to watch the matches.
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01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:57,800
We need full stadiums to warm us all up.
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01:52:57,800 --> 01:52:59,080
Do the right thing.
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01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:04,060
If you don't go to these matches, if you don't support these women, you're not doing the
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01:53:04,060 --> 01:53:08,200
right thing, which means you must be doing the wrong thing.
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01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:11,000
You're evil.
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01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:13,520
Don't support women in soccer.
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01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:16,920
You're evil.
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01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:22,040
There's something morally wrong with you if you don't go to these games.
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01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:28,880
Do you like soccer?
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01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:34,100
Back to that time I was in South America, I went to a game in Argentina.
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01:53:34,100 --> 01:53:37,800
It was one of the craziest experiences I had ever lived through.
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01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:39,280
Was it women's soccer?
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01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:40,280
No.
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01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:41,280
Gynaphobia.
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01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:43,560
It was men's soccer.
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01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:45,260
It was great.
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01:53:45,260 --> 01:53:47,040
It was fun.
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01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:48,400
Sometimes I like soccer, sometimes I don't.
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01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:54,240
I don't watch a lot of sports, but it can be definitely exciting, especially in person.
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01:53:54,240 --> 01:54:02,000
It was a regular game and it had more energy than any Super Bowl or NBA finals or World
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01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:03,000
Series.
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01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:04,000
It was incredible.
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01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:05,480
Yeah, but none of the energy was on the field.
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01:54:05,480 --> 01:54:07,520
It was all in the stands.
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01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:08,520
It was all in the stands.
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01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:10,400
Yeah, I saved my friend's life.
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01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:12,920
A guy was about to fall on him from the balcony.
1838
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:16,520
Wait, so you let the guy just land on concrete or on the chairs?
1839
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:17,520
Yeah, yeah.
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01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:20,520
That's the move.
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01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:23,480
They lock you in the stadium at the end of the game.
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01:54:23,480 --> 01:54:26,840
They lock because it was like a cross town classic kind of thing.
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01:54:26,840 --> 01:54:30,920
Oh, to keep the crowds from attacking each other.
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01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:31,920
Right.
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01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:37,560
So you're like locked in for an hour for all the other fans to leave the stadium and clear
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01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:38,560
the area.
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01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:39,560
Nice.
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01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:41,520
And then they let the local people leave and go home.
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01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:45,640
Do they keep feeding them drinks for that hour while they're corralled?
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01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:47,160
There's no alcohol inside.
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01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:48,160
Water.
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01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:49,160
That's shocking.
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01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:50,160
That was all they had.
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01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:51,160
After they were all done.
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01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:53,040
It's they act that crazy on water.
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01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:54,960
After that, that's nuts.
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01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:59,040
They're clearly very drunk before they get there.
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01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:02,560
After you were all done watching the match, did you guys all go do the right thing and
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01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:04,720
watch some women play soccer?
1860
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:05,720
Yeah.
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01:55:05,720 --> 01:55:08,680
Is that what that's the move?
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01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:12,760
No, absolutely not.
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01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:17,480
No, I think women's sports should be illegal.
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01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:18,480
Illegal.
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01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:27,080
There go half our listeners.
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01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:33,520
Jeremy, sometimes I think you might have mercury poisoning.
1867
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:36,920
And I eat a lot of the fish and I got my mercury levels tested recently.
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01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:40,320
My levels are 10 times what EPA considers safe.
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01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:44,760
I was told by Dr. David Carpenter, who's the national authority on mercury contamination,
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01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:50,160
that a woman with my levels of mercury in her blood would have children with cognitive
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01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:51,840
impairment with permanent brain injury.
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01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:54,160
And I said to him, I mean, she might have.
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01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:56,800
And he said, no, no, no, the science is very certain today.
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01:55:56,800 --> 01:56:00,760
Her children would have some level of permanent brain damage.
1875
01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:06,000
And he said, probably with my levels of mercury, a permanent IQ loss in those kids of about
1876
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:08,520
five to seven points.
1877
01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:19,760
All I'm saying is it explains a lot about RFK Jr.
1878
01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:21,040
Send me a picture of your yard sign.
1879
01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:22,200
Do you have to make it yourself?
1880
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:25,560
Do you have to send it off to a printer and have it made?
1881
01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:29,120
No, what I decided I'm going to do is I'm going to get a bunch of Trump signs and a
1882
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:33,400
bunch of Kennedy signs and line my entire four.
1883
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:34,400
I'm going to stagger.
1884
01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:40,480
I'm going to alternate for the 400 feet of road frontage that I have and just freak people
1885
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:43,480
out.
1886
01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:46,040
All my Trump neighbors are going to be like, woohoo.
1887
01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:52,320
And then all my Biden neighbors are going to be like, it's true.
1888
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:53,640
They are working together.
1889
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:55,640
Right, right, exactly.
1890
01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:57,760
Well, they might be.
1891
01:56:57,760 --> 01:56:59,480
I don't know.
1892
01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:00,480
I don't know.
1893
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:03,760
Jeremy Siegel, thank you very much once again.
1894
01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:10,440
For your truth and bringing it to the Truth Bay podcast.
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01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:18,320
Thank you to all of our producers, our listeners, our listener producers and our active producers.
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01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:24,520
Al in Joliet, what do we have?
1897
01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:25,520
We also had...
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01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:26,520
We had...
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01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:27,520
Jeff and Al Korn.
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01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:28,520
Yeah, Jeff and Al Korn.
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01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:29,520
I'm sorry.
1902
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:33,720
I'm grabbing all my papers at once.
1903
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:37,200
And we had executive producer, Anne as well.
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01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:39,840
Thank you everybody for contributing.
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01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:44,080
It shapes the show and it makes our lives easier.
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01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:45,080
Keep it up.
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01:57:45,080 --> 01:57:53,200
Write us a truth at truthbate.com and tune in every single Tuesday and Friday, sometimes
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01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:59,160
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