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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Monday, November 2nd, and too many thank yous to go around. Thank you to the millions of folks who turned out for the New York City Marathon to embrace all the runners. Thank you to the New York Roadrunners Organization for putting on a great event and getting me in that event. Thank you so much to my doctor for all those injections and all that therapy to get me out there. But the biggest thank you of all has to be reserved for my dear Amy Robach. And with that, everybody, welcome to this Metal Monday, this post-New York City Marathon edition. Robes, you showed out. There are some times you just, you turn up and you show out and you show up in such a way. And you did that for me on Marathon Sunday, the first marathon I've ever done on my own. But you were still there.
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Speaker 2: You were amazing.
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Speaker 3: First of all, the accolades and all of the praise should go to you and to all the other 59,000 plus runners who finished that damn marathon.
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Speaker 2: It is so hard and so.
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Speaker 3: Many people make it look easy, but we know those of us who have run those 26.2 miles know that That every step, every moment, every marathon has a different story, a different arc. And just to have the courage to start the first time, the second time, and in this case for you, it was your fourth marathon, correct? And your fourth New York City marathon that you completed.
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Speaker 2: And to that feat, you need to be.
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Speaker 3: Look, everybody can run a marathon.
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Speaker 2: No, they cannot.
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Speaker 3: And you know that is true. I do think some people get lured into the idea of, and we see this now with influencers and everyone looking for content, trying to say, look what I did. And I think a lot of people don't really understand what it takes, yes, to start the race, but also to to finish the race.
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Speaker 1: And there's a story. Make sure you remind me at the end here to tell that story about the women that you talked to in the hospitality suite afterwards. I want to make sure we get to that. But yes, is that... And everybody we talked to on Sunday... For runners, it was the perfect marathon weather.
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Speaker 3: It was.
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Speaker 1: I heard not many arguments about, oh, it could be a little cooler. For me, you know I like it warmer. You can't beat this in running a marathon. It was perfect.
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Speaker 2: It was beautiful.
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Speaker 3: And for those of us who went out and cheered on those runners and were the spectators, and it was cool because I have never, I have never, either we weren't in town when the marathon was on or for whatever reason, I have never spectated.
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Speaker 2: I've only run.
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Speaker 3: And so it was really an eye opening and cool experience to be able to cheer on my husband in the race, along with my friend's boyfriend and I guess our former producer at ABC.
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Speaker 2: It was fun to be able to be the cheerleader, to be able to.
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Speaker 3: To encourage you and others to keep going because that encouragement and all those folks who come out to line the city streets along the five boroughs are the reason why that race in particular, the New York City Marathon, is the best in the world.
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Speaker 1: I think it's the best day in New York every single year. Marathon Sunday is the best day in New York every single year. And this one did not disappoint. Look, running a marathon, I think once you start doing four and five and whatever, people don't feel necessarily that impressed. I've done it before. This is just what you do. This one was different for me. Yes, Rose, because you weren't there. And this was the one where I probably needed more more eyes on me than any other because this we've been following along and some people have been following along at my foot and having the issues and an injury and blah, blah, blah, blah. this was a really serious injury. This was not a little thing and maybe a downplayed a little bit, who cares? Everybody has a little something, but this was almost something. Um, I think you did several times question if I should even attempt.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 3: I can tell you right now, if the shoe was on the other foot, but I'll bump like literally and figuratively, I would not have done it. There's no way that I have, I would have chosen to be in significant pain for four hours. I just, I know that you did and you made, I reassured everybody who was concerned about you that you, I was with you in the doctor's office, many of your appointments week on, like every week. And you had the x-rays, you weren't doing anything stupid to the point where you were risking permanent injury. And so that to me was, yeah. And I asked it because look, I think it's one thing you were like, well, this is just pain management then. And just is a funny word because that is part of the issue. Most people, if they choose to run 26.2 miles would never choose to start that race in pain and you chose to do that and you knew you were going to be in pain the entire time and you ran it anyway.
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Speaker 1: Well i was hoping i wouldn't we got up that morning and look it comes and goes folks don't know i have a ligament tendon issue scar tissue with my foot they've been trying to you know what imagine it this way when you stretch and you stretch your leg like you don't know getting ready for a run you stretch as far as you can go because it starts hurting a little bit Right? Just natural stretching. And then you loosen up and then you go stretch and see if you can go further. That pain you feel when you stretch as far as you can go is the pain in my foot almost every step. It's a sharp pain. That's the ligament issue. The other issue I ended up having yesterday, Robes, was the tendon on the outside that hangs onto the bone of your foot. They thought it might be falling off the bone and I might need surgery. Doctors say, hey, it doesn't look like it. So what I'm dealing with is just inflammation and getting the thing healthy again. Once it starts getting inflamed, it feels like you're being stabbed in the side of your foot every step you take. Robes, you know I did even a 10-mile or not too terribly long ago where I came back and said, yeah, first seven miles. Didn't feel a thing. I was good. Robes, I got and started stretching in the tent before the race. I said, oh, shit. It was hurting already.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: I felt that pain before the race, and I knew I was in trouble. Now, I was worried. I said, I've never tried to run this far with it already in pain. I was a little concerned.
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Speaker 3: So I'm going to ask the question that I bet a lot of listeners are asking or wanting me to ask you, why? Why would you run a marathon? Why would you attempt this when you knew you were going to be in significant pain?
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Speaker 2: Why not sit this one out?
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Speaker 1: Two things. One, I was there already, and I felt as prepared as I could be. Two- getting prepared in the training, and you remember this, bae, I came back and had some bad runs. I say, but I learned a lot. I learned that if I get to mile five and it hurts me like hell, that wow, I could keep running and it lessens a little bit. I actually had confidence. Well, whatever happens in the beginning doesn't mean that's what's going to happen at the end. So I did, for whatever reason, Robes, have a little bit of confidence and then the adrenaline I thought might carry me through. And the other thing, all right, I'm here. If I don't finish, okay, but at least might as well go out and give it a shot since I'm here.
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Speaker 3: But let me ask you the question just in general. Why do you want to run a marathon? I mean, you knew you had an injury and you've had an injury. And by the way, just for everyone to understand, the injury happened two years ago in the Chicago Marathon. If anyone follows us knows, we ended up leaving the marathon in an ambulance because basically.
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Speaker 2: It was a woman, correct, who was just trying to get across. I'm trying to remember. We've run so many races.
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Speaker 3: But this one, the one that started this injury- Wasn't she just a pedestrian, like a spectator or somebody trying to get across the street, and she ran into you?
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Speaker 1: You remember the first one was the guy that slowed down the curve, who threw everything off, and I had to start. Yeah, it was a comedy of errors. Yes, that was the last thing, and that foot was shot. It couldn't run.
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Speaker 3: And the idea, and look, and I think we've talked about this before, but it is maddening when people, I understand your city streets are taken over for a little.
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Speaker 2: While, but to take a mad dash out.
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Speaker 3: Cutting across like a Frogger game of marathoners who are, and this was towards the end where exhausted, your muscles are depleted to have someone ram into you.
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Speaker 1: You can't break stride.
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Speaker 2: You cannot break stride.
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Speaker 3: People don't understand unless you've run 21, 22, 23 miles. Anyway, it was almost marathon ending type of injury. But I guess what I'm, a slow buildup to ask, why was it important to you to run this year?
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Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to run last year because of injury. I have been working towards this for many, many, I mean, almost all year. I targeted this thing. And I thought I would, and I have been improving. Absolutely been improving. But then it became a challenge. Then it became where it was just a personal endeavor of what you can endure. I told you after this one, this is the greatest physical and mental feat of my life. I am more proud of this, what I did physically and mentally, than anything else. Because, babe, step... One of the marathon hurt. The first time I put my foot on the pavement to run. It hurt. Every step for the next four hours hurt. Every single one. I don't know. I put every spray and every cream, and you gave me Advil, and I took some up. I got lidocaine on my foot. Do all you can. And robes, I just settled in and made that decision. And I don't know.
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Speaker 3: It was.
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Speaker 1: Robes, you know this. You could be 100% healthy, the best you ever felt in your life. And you are going to suffer in the marathon. At some point, it's going to be a mind game.
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Speaker 2: It's absolutely true.
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Speaker 3: Mile 20, just from a physiological standpoint, you ain't got nothing left. And so how you fuel, when you fuel, how your body reacts to that, how much sleep you got the night before, what. Stress levels, mental issues you got going on in your head, all that plays a role in every single marathon. And there's no one marathon that is like the one before.
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Speaker 1: And you know, something else here, the injury made me focus on the things I could control more than I usually do. I don't ever start eating correctly a week out. And then the focus I had on three days out, two days out, the rest I was trying to get, the food I was eating, how I, yeah, and stop drinking alcohol, right? I had some Michelob Ultras, but I wouldn't put anything else in. That stuff, Robes, I felt strong. I felt strong. Except for the foot. Except for the foot. Now, Robes, it happens. Marathon Sunday happens. But in the weeks really leading up to when you go out, we run. We live on the running path down here. And Robes, it starts up. big running groups, and bigger running groups, and everybody's out there, you can tell they're training for the marathon.
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Speaker 2: It's exciting.
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Speaker 3: It starts around, the marathon's in November, first weekend in November, for Sunday in November here in New York City. So yeah, starting in about July, you just start to see the run groups, and you know everyone's beginning their training.
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Speaker 2: It's five months out, and yes, it is exciting.
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Speaker 3: It's always fun to have a goal, and when you can collectively have a goal with friends. So I actually give you such props because I have never, I've run a half marathon by myself, but I have never run a full marathon by myself.
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Speaker 2: I've always had.
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Speaker 3: Friends with me, you with me. I've never run a marathon by myself.
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Speaker 1: Have you and I on the only race I've ever, wait, have I run every race with you?
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Speaker 2: Every marathon?
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Except for this one.
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Speaker 1: But except, I only remember running a race on my own once. And that was a Brooklyn half many years ago.
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Speaker 3: Yep. And funny enough, my one race that I've run alone was the Brooklyn half.
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Speaker 1: Well, you and I weren't running together earlier. You collected medals before you and I started running together. Rose, I'm looking at this. Have I not done a single race other than that Brooklyn half without you?
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Speaker 3: I don't think so because you and I, I mean, I'm not trying to say look at what I did, but I was the one, and you've talked about this plenty, that convinced you to run a half marathon. And once you ran your first half marathon, you got the bug. And you just went from there. And so, yeah, I ran them with you because half marathons are my jam.
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Speaker 1: Think of this moment I haven't thought about until now. Every race I've ever run, I got tons of medals sitting here. You've been in all of them except one. That is really kind of cool.
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Speaker 2: It's very cool that you ran it by yourself.
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Speaker 1: I can't remember who I ran into, and I said, if you gave Robes a bib right now, I think I was telling Jennifer that. If you gave her a bib right now, Robes would come try to get into this race. She's having a little FOMO. Now, I was trying not to rub it in. I wasn't rubbing it in, but in the morning, New York Roadrunners, again, the organization that puts this on, well done as always, but thank you as well for what you have You had the relationship with them first over the years, Robes, and now they brought me into the fold. But they take care of their celebrity or VIP runners, if you will, and they make it so good. They love to have us promoting the race. So it's a partnership, you could argue, but they're always wonderful. And part of it in the morning is you have to get to a bus so they can take all the celeb VIP runners to the start. You have to get on this bus by 5.30. And usually everybody's quiet. You just... Take a little nap. You and I made that ride plenty together. This was a party bus this time. All of our peeps were there.
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Speaker 2: That's fun.
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Speaker 1: And there are certain faces and names and folks that we have done every single one with and we expect to see every time. But then this year, Rogues, one of our best friends, fellow runner, who for every marathon prior, we have never gotten to hang out with him ahead of time, Because he's in what he just called some janky other tent over the years. This year, Matt was on the bus. And I thought, damn, Robes is going to hate she's missing this now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Matt James from The Bachelor. But I think anyone, again, who listens to us knows we're friends with him. But yes, he's always in a different bus, in a different tent.
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Speaker 2: We always try to see him. And I always thought his tent was better than ours. I had no idea. I thought he was in like an Uber celebrity tent.
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Speaker 1: He was. Apparently not. I thought so too.
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Speaker 2: I was like, obviously he's in the better tent than us.
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Speaker 1: But this year he got on this. And just seeing him come on and we rode the whole way together. And then across the aisle from us was Jennifer Connelly.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Who is now a part. She's awesome. But, you know, we become a little community. And to be in there and they're asking about you and I'm sitting there with her and him. At that point, I was like, damn. I wish he'd run.
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Speaker 3: You know what? When you told me that you had those folks around you, you know what I thought? I'm so glad he's got people with him because I felt like I was letting you down. I made the decision not to run because I just wasn't feeling it.
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Speaker 2: And I think mentally I had like you. This is the truth. You have to want it because this is a five month journey.
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Speaker 3: It is that those four hours. It's just it's my last marathon I did with you was 2024. And I just had such a tough time.
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Speaker 2: Time with it. It was the slowest one we did. I couldn't stop vomiting.
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Speaker 3: And I just, I needed some mental health recovery from that and figuring out how I can better fuel myself.
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Speaker 2: Cause I, it's hilarious.
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Speaker 3: I've run six successful marathons and I still haven't fully figured out how to fuel myself correctly because it.
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Speaker 2: Depends on the heat.
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Speaker 3: I'm so sensitive to the heat and I've had some hot runs and they just messed with me.
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Speaker 2: So I get a little gun shy and I'm like, let me just go back to half marathons.
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Speaker 3: But I do think after hearing your experience and seeing everybody and being there at the finish line and cheering everyone on, I am absolutely going to do 2027 New York City. And let's do at least three half marathons this year leading up to it.
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Speaker 1: We already, we have them planned, two of them planned at least, right?
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Yes, folks. So we're sitting here with bleeding toenails talking about doing another marathon. I said it yesterday. I'm doing 2027.
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Speaker 3: And that's pretty remarkable given the shape you ended up in.
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Speaker 2: Like you had a very, very.
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Speaker 3: respectable, wonderful time, given the pain you were in and the fact that you had, like, the condition you were in, but then you fell apart afterwards.
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Speaker 1: What, I came back, it took me several, excuse me, several hours to come back. I had to be nursed back to health by Nurse Robach over here, but it was, you've been with me on all of them, I've never had, you've never seen me have a reaction other than the time I was in an ambulance to... A run or a marathon.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you were in really bad shape. We had a plan. We were all going to go out. We had reservations.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're still looking for us.
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Speaker 2: Those fell by the wayside.
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Speaker 1: Well, that was the plan afterwards. I thought we had a pretty good plan at the time. If folks don't know, and Nikki walked you through this because she's done it plenty.
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Speaker 2: Yes, my good friend Nikki.
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Speaker 3: So she's run two marathons with us as well, actually, but she's been spectating. She's actually brought friends along, and she knew how to be, where to be to get the most out of trying to see your loved one in multiple locations.
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Speaker 2: It ain't easy getting around the city on marathon.
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Speaker 3: Sunday if you are not running because everyone's trying to see or catch their runner somewhere. So we ended up doing Fort Greene in Brooklyn at mile eight.
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Speaker 2: And then we had a plan.
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Speaker 3: We ran over to mile 16 right after the Queensborough Bridge. And that's when you stopped talking to me. I was texting you saying, we're going to be on the left. I had your Twizzlers and your five hour energy waiting, Advil in my pocket. And I was leaning over and we saw you were coming, saw you were coming. And then we never saw you.
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Speaker 1: So here's the thing. Yes, eight and 16. And I can't tell you, Robes, how big of a deal that was. The first eight miles were a piece of freaking cake.
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Speaker 2: But you looked rough after mile eight. I was worried about you.
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Speaker 1: Oh, at mile eight, I started singing at mile 15. At mile eight, and I'm telling you, when I got to six, I was still worried about that foot. I got to mile six, and I said, oh, I'm going to see my baby in two miles. Like, I might do this strategically next time. Have people at certain mile markers and things to look forward to. Robes, I saw eight coming. I would. That was the easiest two miles, six to eight, because I'll see my baby in a minute. And I was worried. I was texting at that time asking which side and the road is split. You got me squared away. And that first stop, how long did I stop?
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Speaker 2: How long was I sitting there? I mean, you were with us. It's so fast.
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Speaker 3: It's amazing all the work you do to go see somebody, and then they're gone in 10 seconds.
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Speaker 2: It's like, wow.
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Speaker 3: So then we have to immediately, after we saw you, a little kiss and grab, meaning you grabbed the Twizzlers.
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Speaker 2: Not anything else.
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Speaker 3: And then we were running to get to mile 16. So we have to hop on subways and then cross over, get around.
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Speaker 2: We get there. We see Nikki's Chris.
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Speaker 3: And you're supposed to be like literally 30 seconds behind him. And I'm like, he hasn't texted me back. I, when you're on the Queensborough, I can see you.
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Speaker 2: You were picking up speed. I was like, way to conquer the Queensborough. See you soon, baby.
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Speaker 1: On the left, on the left.
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Speaker 2: I had it in all caps. You aren't responding.
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Speaker 3: To me. You aren't responding to me. And then I can't find you. And I got to tell you, once we realized we were tracking, you had passed us. I almost started crying because I knew, I knew as a runner, Nikki knew as a runner as well, how important it is. And I was like, he knew, I told you I was going to be 16, 17. And I was just, I didn't know what went wrong. I didn't know why you didn't look at your phone. And I was worried that maybe you were doing so poorly that you couldn't even look at your phone or even think about seeing me or anyone else.
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Speaker 1: But you were tracking. You knew how fast I was going. You knew my times.
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Speaker 3: I thought maybe you were going fast because you were in pain and you were just like, let's get this done.
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Speaker 2: I don't even have time to stop. But now I'm like spiraling because.
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Speaker 3: I'm worried that you're upset that you didn't see me and I can't communicate with you.
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Speaker 1: And it took us till what? Last night to figure out what the problem was. For reasons only known to Apple and the dear Lord above, my phone ended up with in sleep mode. So I wasn't getting notifications. And so I have my AirPods in and I can hear a message if it comes through, but in sleep mode, it doesn't let you know. So running all that way, everything going on with me, pulling out my phone out of the tights every few minutes and trying to read as I'm trying to watch every step to make sure I don't step in a pothole, just not something I was doing. So by the time I pulled it out, I didn't go through and re-go back to all the Roblox messages. The last one I saw was, see you at the finish line. And I saw it, and at the time I saw it, I thought, wow, she's a terrible partner. I need those Twizzlers.
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Speaker 2: And you hadn't seen that.
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Speaker 1: I was like, babe, where are you?
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Speaker 2: The Queensboro. We're on the left. Babe, I'll see you in a minute.
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Speaker 1: Nothing, nothing, nothing. I saw those messages last night.
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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm devastated that I missed you.
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Speaker 3: How did I miss you? And then the next thing was, I'll see you at the finish line. But you only saw, I'll see you at.
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Speaker 1: The finish line. No, really. Rose, my heart sank. I guess the plan changed. No. No, no, baby. That was a pretty big struggle.
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Speaker 2: I was waiting for you. I was leaned over. I had someone taking video, waiting.
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Speaker 1: For the moment.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and never, ever saw you.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but after that, what, mile 16? I really was, baby. In mile 15, 16, I.
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Speaker 1: I took stock of where I was because you know this because you run with me all the time. I don't realize how much I do it. I sing when I'm running.
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Speaker 3: You do.
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Speaker 2: It's cute. It's very cute.
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Speaker 3: And so you were singing along. And you had some songs to sing along to. Every one I thought it was a really cute idea. You had everyone in your family send you a song to run to. So you'd be thinking about them.
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Speaker 2: It does help. It lifts you up.
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Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Brie, Jaden, Sabine, Mom, Dad, Tish. Niece, nephew, Madison, Dylan, Betsy in Arkansas. Ava, Annalise. Annalise! Oh, my goodness. Ava sent a good song. No, it was a broccoli. It was a good one yesterday. But I got all these songs together, and they come on, and you just start thinking about that person, and it's fun. That's awesome. So, 16 to 26, Robes, after I passed you and didn't know it. 15, 16, 17... I was singing, babe. I was still doing okay. And I made a decision and I was going to text you. And I said, I don't want to put myself on the line for this. I'm going for a sub four on this bad foot. I made the call. I was doing math in my head of what I needed to hit. And I said, wow, that last mile is going to be a bitch, but I think I can do this. And you saw me. My times went from.
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Speaker 2: What to what.
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Speaker 1: You started speeding up.
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Speaker 3: You were doing, you were around a 10 minute mile. You had a couple of 1020s. And then all of a sudden I started seeing 930, 920, 907. Then I saw an eight something. I was like, what the hell? Like starting at a time when most people start to peter out, you were speeding up.
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Speaker 1: So that's the rule. We were all, you were taught and it was passed along to me. Your last mile should be your fastest. Sounds crazy to most. But yes, you should not start out Gunning it. Not for a marathon. Certainly not a marathon. So, Rose, I felt, babe, I felt so good. Oh, baby.
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Speaker 2: Until?
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Speaker 1: I was feeling so good. I was listening to Sticky from, what was his name?
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Speaker 2: Sticky.
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Speaker 1: Yes. I was listening to that. It's a Tyler, the Creator. There was a line in there where I can't say it now. He said, F with the pronouns. And I'm telling you, that got in my head, and I was in a great space. So where were you between 16 and 12? This was going on. Y'all were just maneuvering, going back. Yes.
00:24:47
Speaker 3: So when we realized that you had already passed us and there was no way, because we were even contemplating, because I felt so bad.
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Speaker 2: I felt so sick to my stomach.
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Speaker 3: Nikki's like, okay, well, we could get over to Fifth Avenue and Central Park, but then we will not be at the finish line.
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Speaker 2: And I was like, you know what?
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 3: I want to be at the finish line. I can't do that. So we made the call. And yeah, it's quite the trek.
00:25:06
Speaker 1: It's interesting.
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Speaker 2: We got to the finish line.
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Speaker 3: 20 to 30 minutes before you did.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's how long it takes to get. That's pretty close.
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Speaker 3: Yes, it's a little scary because if anything goes wrong or if you sped up, but I even saw you were speeding up.
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Speaker 2: I was like, we got to get to the finish line. Yes.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so now where did things go terribly wrong? 21, 22.
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Speaker 2: Ain't that always the case?
00:25:29
Speaker 1: 21, 22. I got past 20 and I was like, oh man, I'm doing this shit because the last six are usually mentally... The easiest, if you will, because I like ain't no way I'm going to stop.
00:25:38
Speaker 2: So for you, they're physically the hardest.
00:25:40
Speaker 1: Physically the hardest. Yes, man. Twenty one. Twenty two had two issues. One, people, please stop stepping into the marathon path. There was a marathon runner. This woman wrote she comes out of a porta potty and she steps into the path. She had plenty of space. The porta potty wasn't in the street where we were running. She comes out and just for some reason, Robes, she looks to the left where the runners are. As people are coming, she walks into, it turns her head back away and just walks into the path of all runners. Robes, I physically, I had to catch myself. I had to put both hands on her shoulders and she got shoved and it was awkward and a mess. I couldn't believe it, but I thought it was okay. Short time later, that right hamstring starts acting up where I had to catch myself.
00:26:31
Speaker 3: Because any different jerky movement at that point when your muscles are so fatigued and strained and have no glycogen left inside of them, any other awkward movement can absolutely give you a charley horse, like crazy cramping. I mean, it's unbelievable how susceptible and vulnerable your muscles are.
00:26:51
Speaker 1: She did that to me. So now I think, oh, my God, I'm in trouble. And this point, the rest of my body, I start physically breaking down. I just start getting in my head, oh, my God.
00:27:00
Speaker 3: And then I started seeing your times go to 11-minute miles.
00:27:03
Speaker 1: Man, this is where the new problem came, and it's always a new one. You've never heard me complain of this. Robes, my toenail on my left big toe started stabbing me in that toe every single step I took.
00:27:20
Speaker 3: Oof.
00:27:21
Speaker 2: Like a needle.
00:27:22
Speaker 1: Like it was a small knife.
00:27:25
Speaker 3: Oh.
00:27:26
Speaker 1: Stabbed in the toe every single stride. I thought I was going to have to stop and rip the toenail off. And it was the only way I was going to be able to make it. I considered taking my shoe off and running the rest. Stop. I'm not, baby. You're being stabbed in the toe. I didn't know how that was going to go.
00:27:49
Speaker 2: Never had that problem.
00:27:50
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:27:51
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure my times were in the last mile.
00:27:54
Speaker 2: You were in the 11th.
00:27:55
Speaker 1: In the very last one? Because I sped up. 25, sure.
00:27:59
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't see the last one.
00:28:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gave it. I just said to hell with it. I was in pain. Get across the finish line and oh my God. How did I find you? You know what? I think one of the New York Roadrunners.
00:28:11
Speaker 2: Oh, I was screaming your name.
00:28:12
Speaker 1: I think one of them told me she's up there. That was a hell of a moment. It was the only face I wanted to see. It just was. In that moment, there she is. Because you know, I mean, Sabine knows to a certain degree, but you know, you take those runs with me, baby. You know, you've been damn near every single one of those foot doctor appointments. You know.
00:28:34
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:28:35
Speaker 1: What that was.
00:28:36
Speaker 2: I woke up.
00:28:37
Speaker 3: I mean, last night, the night before, that morning, just praying to the universe, please, please, please let him finish.
00:28:45
Speaker 1: Please.
00:28:46
Speaker 3: Because I just knew how much work you put into this, how much your heart and soul was in doing this, completing this. It wasn't just about beginning it. It was about finishing it. So I didn't care what your time was. I know you didn't either.
00:29:00
Speaker 2: It was just about getting across that finish line.
00:29:11
Speaker 1: You were the best ever in, you had a Michelob Ultra ready. Yes. I waited.
00:29:19
Speaker 3: I actually was like literally tracking you and waiting until two minutes before I thought you were going to be at the finish line to get the coldest beer.
00:29:26
Speaker 1: That's good stuff.
00:29:27
Speaker 2: Because I know how you like them. Cold.
00:29:30
Speaker 1: That's good stuff.
00:29:31
Speaker 2: Icy.
00:29:32
Speaker 1: So she hands me, Rob, how long did it take me to suck that down?
00:29:34
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, that's the problem.
00:29:36
Speaker 1: And too fast.
00:29:37
Speaker 2: It was much quicker than you should have.
00:29:39
Speaker 1: Okay, so. go up to the hospitality for a short time. Take a second beer. Fine. Let's get out of here. Take one shoe off, the one with the toe issue, as we're walking out. I probably said it out loud. Man, I think I drank those beers too fast. You did.
00:29:53
Speaker 2: And then you started shaking.
00:29:55
Speaker 1: And you knew what was coming next.
00:29:56
Speaker 2: And then I knew because this is my thing.
00:29:58
Speaker 3: The last two marathons, I have walked out of the marathon puking all the way to the apartment. I remember the last one was the final, the Fulton Street Metro stop or the subway stop, puking in the trash can. You didn't even... Here's the crazy thing. I mean, you see people puking when they cross the finish line.
00:30:16
Speaker 2: I've been there. That was one year for me. So I was watching people puke. They've got the little blue barf bags, but you didn't grab one.
00:30:23
Speaker 1: Oh, it didn't feel like puking when I stopped.
00:30:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, you threw up once and you were able to do that in a bush, I think.
00:30:28
Speaker 1: So it was after they gave me the, what do you call those things?
00:30:32
Speaker 3: The capes, the fleece capes because everyone's shivering. Your body temperature drops dramatically after you've put it under that much stress for that long. It's crazy how you immediately, at least I've gotten them to, you get the, The chills, the shivers.
00:30:44
Speaker 1: Because you're wet and it's still 60 degrees outside.
00:30:46
Speaker 3: Yes. And your whole body has just been through pretty significant trauma.
00:30:51
Speaker 1: I'm the worst at that. And then the pain in the foot, which we learned why your body causes you to get nauseous. But I had a bunch of stuff going on.
00:30:59
Speaker 3: Right.
00:31:00
Speaker 1: So I get the orange cape. And then you start to- I got how many steps?
00:31:04
Speaker 2: Not very far. So you threw up. But then the worst part is you're like, babe, I can't. We need to get an Uber.
00:31:08
Speaker 3: So we get- We get to a corner. I think it was Columbus 69th, right?
00:31:16
Speaker 1: Watch where you're stepping around that pole.
00:31:18
Speaker 2: We were waiting.
00:31:19
Speaker 3: And I hear TJ. Like, TJ does not complain. He was moaning. I was like, oh, no, I know that feeling, that feeling before you're going to throw up. And all of a sudden, without any warning, and there were so many people around us. I saw people like, I mean, your puke went. It was just water or beer pretty much.
00:31:36
Speaker 2: It had no substance in it. So it actually didn't... It sounds terrible. It didn't smell at all. It was just like literally beer coming out of your body. And then it was just going all over the sidewalk. I was like, oh my God, because there's a slight decline or like.
00:31:49
Speaker 1: It was... Like someone opened a fire hydrant.
00:31:53
Speaker 2: It was awful. And then no one even knew. People were just like, doo-doo-doo-doo-doo.
00:31:57
Speaker 1: Going about their business in New York.
00:31:58
Speaker 3: It's so crazy. Everyone's got the marathoners. And then on the Uber ride home, you were like, babe, where's my bag?
00:32:05
Speaker 2: Dump it out. Dump it out. The little runner's bag.
00:32:07
Speaker 1: I tried to be calm. I said, babe, I need you to dump that bag out right now. And you weren't catching what I was putting.
00:32:12
Speaker 2: I really wasn't understanding what you were about to do. And I was like, oh, oh, he needs to puke again.
00:32:16
Speaker 1: So we just saved an Uber ride. his car by getting that bag out in time. So yes, that was the ride home. Now, finally we get here, Robes, you gave me an anti-nauseant. I guess that worked. It was disgusting, but.
00:32:30
Speaker 3: It melts in your mouth. It's Zofran and it works.
00:32:35
Speaker 2: I use it actually.
00:32:36
Speaker 3: I take one to two while I'm running to stop the nausea while I'm running because I just get, it's just really hard for me when I'm running not to feel like I want to puke.
00:32:46
Speaker 2: So yes, I'm glad that helped.
00:32:47
Speaker 3: Got you some Diet Coke and you eventually, I think.
00:32:52
Speaker 2: You've, I've never seen you do this.
00:32:53
Speaker 3: We had plans to go meet friends at 3.30 for margaritas and to say congrats. And we got back and you just, you didn't even shower. You did change into a robe, thankfully. But then you just passed out on the couch on my lap for like two and a half hours. I have never seen you do that before.
00:33:12
Speaker 1: Hey, I needed a nap. You needed a nap. And every time you got up, I was like, where are you going?
00:33:17
Speaker 2: You got so mad at me. You were like, can you please just come back? I was actually, you know what I did?
00:33:22
Speaker 1: Okay, now you said I got so mad. You didn't. Okay. You were sad. That sounds a certain way.
00:33:25
Speaker 2: No, that's true. That's true. I'm sorry. It was cute. It was like you were like an eight-year-old boy. I'm like, come back. Where'd you go?
00:33:33
Speaker 1: You went somewhere once. I said, how long are you going to be? What?
00:33:38
Speaker 2: It was cute. It was like you needed your security blanket.
00:33:42
Speaker 3: And I was actually, I went to go do laundry because your clothes, I mean, God love you, but you run a marathon.
00:33:48
Speaker 2: You don't want those clothes lingering. So I needed to get a wash on. So that's actually where I went was to wash your marathon clothes for you because I want to despair us all.
00:33:59
Speaker 1: It was for you.
00:34:00
Speaker 2: It was mostly for me.
00:34:01
Speaker 1: But I'm supposed to say thank you. I finally got food, got a little pizza. My appetite didn't come back really until this morning, but You were surprised. I feel physically no pain other than toes.
00:34:12
Speaker 3: You were in such bad shape just after the marathon. I thought, oh, what's it going to be like in the morning? I come up, you are bright-eyed, bushy-tailed, feeling good. You haven't limped, hobbled. You say you have no sore muscles. I don't even know who you are.
00:34:28
Speaker 1: Toes. Toes are little jacks. Two toes. Two toenails.
00:34:33
Speaker 3: Even on a good marathon, my quads, my hamstrings, my... Everything's a little sore.
00:34:40
Speaker 1: Oh, you know what, babe? Maybe this has.
00:34:43
Speaker 1: We resisted this, but I was forced to do it this time. I did not follow the traditional running schedule, which gets, what, a 14-miler or 16 and 18 and 20? Yes. But your training runs get that high. I did not run more than a half marathon for this training. And it is the best I have physically... Felt, and my body is held up in a marathon.
00:35:09
Speaker 2: You're not like the rest of us, though.
00:35:11
Speaker 1: I don't know, baby.
00:35:12
Speaker 2: That would scare me.
00:35:14
Speaker 1: It scared me, but I didn't have a choice. Sorry, I got a cough drop in my mouth. That's why I sounded crazy.
00:35:20
Speaker 3: And you did want to say you had a sign you hated you wanted to point out. Look, we like most of the marathon signs.
00:35:25
Speaker 2: They're very fun. I had fun putting mine together for you. That's cute. Yes, but there was.
00:35:31
Speaker 1: You didn't see this one?
00:35:32
Speaker 2: No.
00:35:32
Speaker 1: Okay. I saw it at least twice. But imagine just a big white poster board somebody's holding up, and there's a circle in the middle where a woman's vagina would be. And it has two legs coming out of it as if a woman was in stirrups or giving birth. And the sign reads, keep pushing.
00:35:55
Speaker 3: And then you put, so the person who has the sign puts their face like they're the baby coming out of a woman's vagina.
00:36:02
Speaker 2: That's disgusting.
00:36:03
Speaker 1: I didn't like that.
00:36:03
Speaker 3: And I told you as I was researching like some clever marathon signs, I was just trying to get some inspiration. I saw pictures of some signs that I was like, ew.
00:36:13
Speaker 2: One of them is... I like long, hard things too. What? That is just, stop. I guess it's kind of funny, but ew.
00:36:22
Speaker 1: Who wants to hold that sign?
00:36:24
Speaker 2: Right, right.
00:36:24
Speaker 1: And tell their father about it. Ew.
00:36:29
Speaker 2: Yes, grandparents are running past you. Children are running past you.
00:36:33
Speaker 1: You know what, babe? That's a good point.
00:36:34
Speaker 2: And I just, there's no way.
00:36:37
Speaker 1: You know what? Wow. When you think of it that way, there's a certain way you behave at a bar versus at your kid's.
00:36:43
Speaker 2: It's not OK.
00:36:44
Speaker 3: And then there was another one that a pregnant woman was holding a sign and it says, you're a finisher.
00:36:54
Speaker 2: Here's proof or he's a finisher. And here's proof. And then pointed to her belly.
00:36:59
Speaker 3: Like, no, I don't want this sexual innuendo when you're running.
00:37:02
Speaker 2: Like, no, let's keep things clean.
00:37:04
Speaker 1: Like the farts.
00:37:05
Speaker 2: Let's talk about farts. Let's talk about smells. Let's talk about all that. But let's keep sex out of it. Let's just make this not sexy.
00:37:13
Speaker 1: Two last things here. One of them, I'm trying to find this sign on that. There was a plane that was flying overhead at the starting line.
00:37:23
Speaker 2: Oh, yes. That was hilarious.
00:37:24
Speaker 1: Oh, you did see that?
00:37:25
Speaker 2: I did see it.
00:37:26
Speaker 1: Please take a pre-race poop. Brought to you by Good Wipes.
00:37:30
Speaker 2: That's funny.
00:37:30
Speaker 1: The other, please tell folks, anybody who is excited about it, thinks it's really cool, really fun, wants to get into running, wants to do the marathon next year, wants it for social media content, wants it for a personal goal, please listen to this from Robes. A story you have, two women you were standing next to, and not to dog them and not to embarrass them. Anything like that. That's not the point. But I think a lot of people feel the way these women might feel after watching people complete the marathon. Yes.
00:37:58
Speaker 3: So we were right there at the finish line. And look, I would say, obviously, even if you've had like the hardest run of your life, when you are crossing that finish line, if you've got any strength left in you, you're raising your arms up, you're celebrating, you're smiling.
00:38:13
Speaker 2: You're thanking God.
00:38:15
Speaker 3: And some people break down in tears of just joy at this idea of the accomplishment they've just, what they've just done. And these two women started talking to each other and they said, oh.
00:38:27
Speaker 2: My God, I mean, I know it's hard, but they make it all look so easy. And they turned to each other. I feel like we could do this next year. I mean, look how much fun they're having. Don't you think we could? It can't be that hard.
00:38:39
Speaker 3: And I said, so you've never run a marathon before? And they said, no, but like, It looks like so much fun. And I said, I'm telling you right now, however hard you think it is, multiply it by a thousand.
00:38:51
Speaker 2: I assure you. I assure you. And I was watching. I go, I can totally see.
00:38:56
Speaker 3: Well, you would say that seeing the last 10 seconds, but the truth is you're not there at mile 20, mile 19. I mean, the last six miles for me, at least in this last several marathons I've done, I had my head down.
00:39:11
Speaker 2: Like I didn't hear anyone calling my name. I couldn't look up once.
00:39:15
Speaker 3: Every single ounce of mental strength I had had to go into convincing my legs to take one more step. And then yes, when I crossed the finish line, I did have a big smile on my face. And in most of the pictures, I see the cameras, I smile, but inside, I.
00:39:33
Speaker 2: Am actually dying.
00:39:35
Speaker 3: So I guess, and look, I know they didn't know what they said, they didn't realize, but it is so offensive when you know how hard it is and how devastating it is for at least a couple miles for everybody, for people to be like, ooh, that looks like fun.
00:39:51
Speaker 2: Let's do it next year. It's kind of like when Elle.
00:39:54
Speaker 3: Woods, for anyone who loves Legally Blonde, when she goes, getting into Harvard, like, is that hard?
00:40:00
Speaker 2: It's the same kind of, like, Harvard? Like, how's that hard to get into?
00:40:05
Speaker 3: It's the same sentiment when you say, oh, let's just run a marathon next year.
00:40:10
Speaker 1: It looks like fun. We welcome all. Obviously. Love to see more people running. A record number entered into this. Robes, but this, at times, I'm not some running snob. I'm still fairly a novice, I guess you could argue. But Robes, to hear people talk about the marathon and treat it in such a way, it disrespects the work that other people put into it. Many people get into this thing through a lot of sponsorships. And that's fine to include them. And it's fine if you want to walk it, if you want to jog it, if you don't want to train for it, if you just want some social media content. All that is okay. We just ask that you respect the folks who just had an MRI 10 weeks ago. You respect the folks who started training six months ago. You respect the folks who are 75 and living out a lifelong dream and are running past you. We just ask that. please be considerate to the folks who are putting in that work.
00:41:14
Speaker 2: It's so true.
00:41:16
Speaker 3: You just reminded me, one of my favorite, it could almost make me cry, finish lines, there were three, it was two men and a woman, and they were absolutely in their late 70s, maybe even pushing 80, and they were holding hands. Oh, And they finished like at 4.04, like faster than I have ever run it.
00:41:38
Speaker 2: I had chills from head to toe. And she looked up to the stars and she shook her head.
00:41:44
Speaker 3: And I'll cry now just thinking like, holy hell, that woman just smoked every single time I've ever had.
00:41:52
Speaker 2: And look at her go. And there were three, and the three of them together. It was just awesome. I was inspired.
00:41:59
Speaker 1: Folks being dismissive of that effort. It's like showing up to somebody's wedding in jean shorts.
00:42:06
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:42:07
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't care what you put into this or anybody else has to do. It's tough to see, and I don't want to be that curmudgeon kind of a.
00:42:17
Speaker 3: But when you see people walking at mile three, you know that they didn't put in the work.
00:42:23
Speaker 1: You know what? That's different. Some don't take it seriously versus the running... I actually heard so many times. You know what? Sabine brought this to my attention a year or two ago. Showing me something. Yeah, this woman said she ran a marathon. She didn't even train. Like Sabine was questioning me about my training. And we looked into this and yes, it was some social media person who walked the whole.
00:42:46
Speaker 2: It was like an eight hour finish time, right?
00:42:47
Speaker 1: But yeah, kept putting up pictures and I'm crushing it in the marathon kind of a thing. That is.
00:42:54
Speaker 2: Disingenuous.
00:42:55
Speaker 1: Man, and that's offensive to others. whose toenails are falling off.
00:42:59
Speaker 3: Yes. And by the way, I have a question because I sent you something that I thought was funny. Some marathoners get upset when you ask them their time and they think it's offensive. It's like asking a woman how old she is. Don't ask a marathoner what their time was because who cares? They did it. They started it and they finished it. And that shouldn't be the measure of the effort, the Herculean effort it takes to just run a marathon.
00:43:27
Speaker 2: Does it bother you?
00:43:29
Speaker 1: That they ask? Yeah. Depends on who's asking. And why. Because I think most people on the street, I could tell them I ran 525 and they would go, wow. I think most people don't have any concept.
00:43:41
Speaker 2: That is true.
00:43:42
Speaker 3: Only other, so if it's for competitive reasons, like no, I don't need to tell you.
00:43:46
Speaker 1: But yes, it's, you finished a marathon. Everybody who crossed the finish line You're my hero. Exactly.
00:43:52
Speaker 3: Period.
00:43:52
Speaker 2: That's how I feel, too. But you had a great time.
00:43:55
Speaker 1: And thank you again, my dear love. We're out there together next year.
00:43:59
Speaker 3: It was my pleasure. I was going to tell you your time grade. So the time age graded time. Do you want to know what that was? So the New York Roadrunners, you get your official time. But then when you're old, like we are, they actually give you your time age graded.
00:44:12
Speaker 1: Time.
00:44:12
Speaker 2: As if, I guess, if you were younger.
00:44:14
Speaker 1: Oh, somebody my age.
00:44:15
Speaker 2: Okay, I got you.
00:44:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, for someone your age, you did a 354.48. So you did a sub four with your time age, graded time.
00:44:22
Speaker 1: Like weighted courses or something.
00:44:26
Speaker 2: Yes, I thought that would make you feel good. You did it, baby. Oh, my God.
00:44:31
Speaker 1: That is a perfect note to end on. I told you she was impressive this last couple days. All right, folks, we appreciate you always listening. I'm TJ. That's Robes. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Monday, November 2nd, and too many thank yous to go around. Thank you to the millions of folks who turned out for the New York City Marathon to embrace all the runners. Thank you to the New York Roadrunners Organization for putting on a great event and getting me in that event. Thank you so much to my doctor for all those injections and all that therapy to get me out there. But the biggest thank you of all has to be reserved for my dear Amy Robach. And with that, everybody, welcome to this Metal Monday, this post-New York City Marathon edition. Robes, you showed out. There are some times you just, you turn up and you show out and you show up in such a way. And you did that for me on Marathon Sunday, the first marathon I've ever done on my own. But you were still there.
00:00:54
Speaker 2: You were amazing.
00:00:55
Speaker 3: First of all, the accolades and all of the praise should go to you and to all the other 59,000 plus runners who finished that damn marathon.
00:01:07
Speaker 2: It is so hard and so.
00:01:11
Speaker 3: Many people make it look easy, but we know those of us who have run those 26.2 miles know that That every step, every moment, every marathon has a different story, a different arc. And just to have the courage to start the first time, the second time, and in this case for you, it was your fourth marathon, correct? And your fourth New York City marathon that you completed.
00:01:36
Speaker 2: And to that feat, you need to be.
00:01:41
Speaker 3: Look, everybody can run a marathon.
00:01:44
Speaker 2: No, they cannot.
00:01:45
Speaker 3: And you know that is true. I do think some people get lured into the idea of, and we see this now with influencers and everyone looking for content, trying to say, look what I did. And I think a lot of people don't really understand what it takes, yes, to start the race, but also to to finish the race.
00:02:05
Speaker 1: And there's a story. Make sure you remind me at the end here to tell that story about the women that you talked to in the hospitality suite afterwards. I want to make sure we get to that. But yes, is that... And everybody we talked to on Sunday... For runners, it was the perfect marathon weather.
00:02:23
Speaker 3: It was.
00:02:23
Speaker 1: I heard not many arguments about, oh, it could be a little cooler. For me, you know I like it warmer. You can't beat this in running a marathon. It was perfect.
00:02:30
Speaker 2: It was beautiful.
00:02:31
Speaker 3: And for those of us who went out and cheered on those runners and were the spectators, and it was cool because I have never, I have never, either we weren't in town when the marathon was on or for whatever reason, I have never spectated.
00:02:45
Speaker 2: I've only run.
00:02:47
Speaker 3: And so it was really an eye opening and cool experience to be able to cheer on my husband in the race, along with my friend's boyfriend and I guess our former producer at ABC.
00:03:02
Speaker 2: It was fun to be able to be the cheerleader, to be able to.
00:03:06
Speaker 3: To encourage you and others to keep going because that encouragement and all those folks who come out to line the city streets along the five boroughs are the reason why that race in particular, the New York City Marathon, is the best in the world.
00:03:20
Speaker 1: I think it's the best day in New York every single year. Marathon Sunday is the best day in New York every single year. And this one did not disappoint. Look, running a marathon, I think once you start doing four and five and whatever, people don't feel necessarily that impressed. I've done it before. This is just what you do. This one was different for me. Yes, Rose, because you weren't there. And this was the one where I probably needed more more eyes on me than any other because this we've been following along and some people have been following along at my foot and having the issues and an injury and blah, blah, blah, blah. this was a really serious injury. This was not a little thing and maybe a downplayed a little bit, who cares? Everybody has a little something, but this was almost something. Um, I think you did several times question if I should even attempt.
00:04:11
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
00:04:11
Speaker 3: I can tell you right now, if the shoe was on the other foot, but I'll bump like literally and figuratively, I would not have done it. There's no way that I have, I would have chosen to be in significant pain for four hours. I just, I know that you did and you made, I reassured everybody who was concerned about you that you, I was with you in the doctor's office, many of your appointments week on, like every week. And you had the x-rays, you weren't doing anything stupid to the point where you were risking permanent injury. And so that to me was, yeah. And I asked it because look, I think it's one thing you were like, well, this is just pain management then. And just is a funny word because that is part of the issue. Most people, if they choose to run 26.2 miles would never choose to start that race in pain and you chose to do that and you knew you were going to be in pain the entire time and you ran it anyway.
00:05:11
Speaker 1: Well i was hoping i wouldn't we got up that morning and look it comes and goes folks don't know i have a ligament tendon issue scar tissue with my foot they've been trying to you know what imagine it this way when you stretch and you stretch your leg like you don't know getting ready for a run you stretch as far as you can go because it starts hurting a little bit Right? Just natural stretching. And then you loosen up and then you go stretch and see if you can go further. That pain you feel when you stretch as far as you can go is the pain in my foot almost every step. It's a sharp pain. That's the ligament issue. The other issue I ended up having yesterday, Robes, was the tendon on the outside that hangs onto the bone of your foot. They thought it might be falling off the bone and I might need surgery. Doctors say, hey, it doesn't look like it. So what I'm dealing with is just inflammation and getting the thing healthy again. Once it starts getting inflamed, it feels like you're being stabbed in the side of your foot every step you take. Robes, you know I did even a 10-mile or not too terribly long ago where I came back and said, yeah, first seven miles. Didn't feel a thing. I was good. Robes, I got and started stretching in the tent before the race. I said, oh, shit. It was hurting already.
00:06:21
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:06:22
Speaker 1: I felt that pain before the race, and I knew I was in trouble. Now, I was worried. I said, I've never tried to run this far with it already in pain. I was a little concerned.
00:06:33
Speaker 3: So I'm going to ask the question that I bet a lot of listeners are asking or wanting me to ask you, why? Why would you run a marathon? Why would you attempt this when you knew you were going to be in significant pain?
00:06:47
Speaker 2: Why not sit this one out?
00:06:49
Speaker 1: Two things. One, I was there already, and I felt as prepared as I could be. Two- getting prepared in the training, and you remember this, bae, I came back and had some bad runs. I say, but I learned a lot. I learned that if I get to mile five and it hurts me like hell, that wow, I could keep running and it lessens a little bit. I actually had confidence. Well, whatever happens in the beginning doesn't mean that's what's going to happen at the end. So I did, for whatever reason, Robes, have a little bit of confidence and then the adrenaline I thought might carry me through. And the other thing, all right, I'm here. If I don't finish, okay, but at least might as well go out and give it a shot since I'm here.
00:07:34
Speaker 3: But let me ask you the question just in general. Why do you want to run a marathon? I mean, you knew you had an injury and you've had an injury. And by the way, just for everyone to understand, the injury happened two years ago in the Chicago Marathon. If anyone follows us knows, we ended up leaving the marathon in an ambulance because basically.
00:07:56
Speaker 2: It was a woman, correct, who was just trying to get across. I'm trying to remember. We've run so many races.
00:08:00
Speaker 3: But this one, the one that started this injury- Wasn't she just a pedestrian, like a spectator or somebody trying to get across the street, and she ran into you?
00:08:09
Speaker 1: You remember the first one was the guy that slowed down the curve, who threw everything off, and I had to start. Yeah, it was a comedy of errors. Yes, that was the last thing, and that foot was shot. It couldn't run.
00:08:20
Speaker 3: And the idea, and look, and I think we've talked about this before, but it is maddening when people, I understand your city streets are taken over for a little.
00:08:27
Speaker 2: While, but to take a mad dash out.
00:08:31
Speaker 3: Cutting across like a Frogger game of marathoners who are, and this was towards the end where exhausted, your muscles are depleted to have someone ram into you.
00:08:42
Speaker 1: You can't break stride.
00:08:43
Speaker 2: You cannot break stride.
00:08:44
Speaker 3: People don't understand unless you've run 21, 22, 23 miles. Anyway, it was almost marathon ending type of injury. But I guess what I'm, a slow buildup to ask, why was it important to you to run this year?
00:08:58
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to run last year because of injury. I have been working towards this for many, many, I mean, almost all year. I targeted this thing. And I thought I would, and I have been improving. Absolutely been improving. But then it became a challenge. Then it became where it was just a personal endeavor of what you can endure. I told you after this one, this is the greatest physical and mental feat of my life. I am more proud of this, what I did physically and mentally, than anything else. Because, babe, step... One of the marathon hurt. The first time I put my foot on the pavement to run. It hurt. Every step for the next four hours hurt. Every single one. I don't know. I put every spray and every cream, and you gave me Advil, and I took some up. I got lidocaine on my foot. Do all you can. And robes, I just settled in and made that decision. And I don't know.
00:10:02
Speaker 3: It was.
00:10:03
Speaker 1: Robes, you know this. You could be 100% healthy, the best you ever felt in your life. And you are going to suffer in the marathon. At some point, it's going to be a mind game.
00:10:13
Speaker 2: It's absolutely true.
00:10:14
Speaker 3: Mile 20, just from a physiological standpoint, you ain't got nothing left. And so how you fuel, when you fuel, how your body reacts to that, how much sleep you got the night before, what. Stress levels, mental issues you got going on in your head, all that plays a role in every single marathon. And there's no one marathon that is like the one before.
00:10:36
Speaker 1: And you know, something else here, the injury made me focus on the things I could control more than I usually do. I don't ever start eating correctly a week out. And then the focus I had on three days out, two days out, the rest I was trying to get, the food I was eating, how I, yeah, and stop drinking alcohol, right? I had some Michelob Ultras, but I wouldn't put anything else in. That stuff, Robes, I felt strong. I felt strong. Except for the foot. Except for the foot. Now, Robes, it happens. Marathon Sunday happens. But in the weeks really leading up to when you go out, we run. We live on the running path down here. And Robes, it starts up. big running groups, and bigger running groups, and everybody's out there, you can tell they're training for the marathon.
00:11:19
Speaker 2: It's exciting.
00:11:20
Speaker 3: It starts around, the marathon's in November, first weekend in November, for Sunday in November here in New York City. So yeah, starting in about July, you just start to see the run groups, and you know everyone's beginning their training.
00:11:32
Speaker 2: It's five months out, and yes, it is exciting.
00:11:34
Speaker 3: It's always fun to have a goal, and when you can collectively have a goal with friends. So I actually give you such props because I have never, I've run a half marathon by myself, but I have never run a full marathon by myself.
00:11:47
Speaker 2: I've always had.
00:11:48
Speaker 3: Friends with me, you with me. I've never run a marathon by myself.
00:11:53
Speaker 1: Have you and I on the only race I've ever, wait, have I run every race with you?
00:11:58
Speaker 2: Every marathon?
00:11:59
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:11:59
Speaker 2: Except for this one.
00:12:00
Speaker 1: But except, I only remember running a race on my own once. And that was a Brooklyn half many years ago.
00:12:05
Speaker 3: Yep. And funny enough, my one race that I've run alone was the Brooklyn half.
00:12:10
Speaker 1: Well, you and I weren't running together earlier. You collected medals before you and I started running together. Rose, I'm looking at this. Have I not done a single race other than that Brooklyn half without you?
00:12:22
Speaker 3: I don't think so because you and I, I mean, I'm not trying to say look at what I did, but I was the one, and you've talked about this plenty, that convinced you to run a half marathon. And once you ran your first half marathon, you got the bug. And you just went from there. And so, yeah, I ran them with you because half marathons are my jam.
00:12:41
Speaker 1: Think of this moment I haven't thought about until now. Every race I've ever run, I got tons of medals sitting here. You've been in all of them except one. That is really kind of cool.
00:12:52
Speaker 2: It's very cool that you ran it by yourself.
00:12:53
Speaker 1: I can't remember who I ran into, and I said, if you gave Robes a bib right now, I think I was telling Jennifer that. If you gave her a bib right now, Robes would come try to get into this race. She's having a little FOMO. Now, I was trying not to rub it in. I wasn't rubbing it in, but in the morning, New York Roadrunners, again, the organization that puts this on, well done as always, but thank you as well for what you have You had the relationship with them first over the years, Robes, and now they brought me into the fold. But they take care of their celebrity or VIP runners, if you will, and they make it so good. They love to have us promoting the race. So it's a partnership, you could argue, but they're always wonderful. And part of it in the morning is you have to get to a bus so they can take all the celeb VIP runners to the start. You have to get on this bus by 5.30. And usually everybody's quiet. You just... Take a little nap. You and I made that ride plenty together. This was a party bus this time. All of our peeps were there.
00:13:52
Speaker 2: That's fun.
00:13:53
Speaker 1: And there are certain faces and names and folks that we have done every single one with and we expect to see every time. But then this year, Rogues, one of our best friends, fellow runner, who for every marathon prior, we have never gotten to hang out with him ahead of time, Because he's in what he just called some janky other tent over the years. This year, Matt was on the bus. And I thought, damn, Robes is going to hate she's missing this now.
00:14:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, Matt James from The Bachelor. But I think anyone, again, who listens to us knows we're friends with him. But yes, he's always in a different bus, in a different tent.
00:14:34
Speaker 2: We always try to see him. And I always thought his tent was better than ours. I had no idea. I thought he was in like an Uber celebrity tent.
00:14:41
Speaker 1: He was. Apparently not. I thought so too.
00:14:44
Speaker 2: I was like, obviously he's in the better tent than us.
00:14:47
Speaker 1: But this year he got on this. And just seeing him come on and we rode the whole way together. And then across the aisle from us was Jennifer Connelly.
00:14:54
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:14:54
Speaker 1: Who is now a part. She's awesome. But, you know, we become a little community. And to be in there and they're asking about you and I'm sitting there with her and him. At that point, I was like, damn. I wish he'd run.
00:15:08
Speaker 3: You know what? When you told me that you had those folks around you, you know what I thought? I'm so glad he's got people with him because I felt like I was letting you down. I made the decision not to run because I just wasn't feeling it.
00:15:21
Speaker 2: And I think mentally I had like you. This is the truth. You have to want it because this is a five month journey.
00:15:28
Speaker 3: It is that those four hours. It's just it's my last marathon I did with you was 2024. And I just had such a tough time.
00:15:37
Speaker 2: Time with it. It was the slowest one we did. I couldn't stop vomiting.
00:15:42
Speaker 3: And I just, I needed some mental health recovery from that and figuring out how I can better fuel myself.
00:15:47
Speaker 2: Cause I, it's hilarious.
00:15:48
Speaker 3: I've run six successful marathons and I still haven't fully figured out how to fuel myself correctly because it.
00:15:54
Speaker 2: Depends on the heat.
00:15:55
Speaker 3: I'm so sensitive to the heat and I've had some hot runs and they just messed with me.
00:15:59
Speaker 2: So I get a little gun shy and I'm like, let me just go back to half marathons.
00:16:04
Speaker 3: But I do think after hearing your experience and seeing everybody and being there at the finish line and cheering everyone on, I am absolutely going to do 2027 New York City. And let's do at least three half marathons this year leading up to it.
00:16:15
Speaker 1: We already, we have them planned, two of them planned at least, right?
00:16:18
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:16:19
Speaker 1: Yes, folks. So we're sitting here with bleeding toenails talking about doing another marathon. I said it yesterday. I'm doing 2027.
00:16:26
Speaker 3: And that's pretty remarkable given the shape you ended up in.
00:16:29
Speaker 2: Like you had a very, very.
00:16:32
Speaker 3: respectable, wonderful time, given the pain you were in and the fact that you had, like, the condition you were in, but then you fell apart afterwards.
00:16:44
Speaker 1: What, I came back, it took me several, excuse me, several hours to come back. I had to be nursed back to health by Nurse Robach over here, but it was, you've been with me on all of them, I've never had, you've never seen me have a reaction other than the time I was in an ambulance to... A run or a marathon.
00:17:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were in really bad shape. We had a plan. We were all going to go out. We had reservations.
00:17:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're still looking for us.
00:17:09
Speaker 2: Those fell by the wayside.
00:17:11
Speaker 1: Well, that was the plan afterwards. I thought we had a pretty good plan at the time. If folks don't know, and Nikki walked you through this because she's done it plenty.
00:17:30
Speaker 2: Yes, my good friend Nikki.
00:17:32
Speaker 3: So she's run two marathons with us as well, actually, but she's been spectating. She's actually brought friends along, and she knew how to be, where to be to get the most out of trying to see your loved one in multiple locations.
00:17:46
Speaker 2: It ain't easy getting around the city on marathon.
00:17:49
Speaker 3: Sunday if you are not running because everyone's trying to see or catch their runner somewhere. So we ended up doing Fort Greene in Brooklyn at mile eight.
00:17:59
Speaker 2: And then we had a plan.
00:18:00
Speaker 3: We ran over to mile 16 right after the Queensborough Bridge. And that's when you stopped talking to me. I was texting you saying, we're going to be on the left. I had your Twizzlers and your five hour energy waiting, Advil in my pocket. And I was leaning over and we saw you were coming, saw you were coming. And then we never saw you.
00:18:18
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. Yes, eight and 16. And I can't tell you, Robes, how big of a deal that was. The first eight miles were a piece of freaking cake.
00:18:27
Speaker 2: But you looked rough after mile eight. I was worried about you.
00:18:30
Speaker 1: Oh, at mile eight, I started singing at mile 15. At mile eight, and I'm telling you, when I got to six, I was still worried about that foot. I got to mile six, and I said, oh, I'm going to see my baby in two miles. Like, I might do this strategically next time. Have people at certain mile markers and things to look forward to. Robes, I saw eight coming. I would. That was the easiest two miles, six to eight, because I'll see my baby in a minute. And I was worried. I was texting at that time asking which side and the road is split. You got me squared away. And that first stop, how long did I stop?
00:19:07
Speaker 2: How long was I sitting there? I mean, you were with us. It's so fast.
00:19:11
Speaker 3: It's amazing all the work you do to go see somebody, and then they're gone in 10 seconds.
00:19:16
Speaker 2: It's like, wow.
00:19:17
Speaker 3: So then we have to immediately, after we saw you, a little kiss and grab, meaning you grabbed the Twizzlers.
00:19:23
Speaker 2: Not anything else.
00:19:25
Speaker 3: And then we were running to get to mile 16. So we have to hop on subways and then cross over, get around.
00:19:32
Speaker 2: We get there. We see Nikki's Chris.
00:19:34
Speaker 3: And you're supposed to be like literally 30 seconds behind him. And I'm like, he hasn't texted me back. I, when you're on the Queensborough, I can see you.
00:19:41
Speaker 2: You were picking up speed. I was like, way to conquer the Queensborough. See you soon, baby.
00:19:46
Speaker 1: On the left, on the left.
00:19:48
Speaker 2: I had it in all caps. You aren't responding.
00:19:50
Speaker 3: To me. You aren't responding to me. And then I can't find you. And I got to tell you, once we realized we were tracking, you had passed us. I almost started crying because I knew, I knew as a runner, Nikki knew as a runner as well, how important it is. And I was like, he knew, I told you I was going to be 16, 17. And I was just, I didn't know what went wrong. I didn't know why you didn't look at your phone. And I was worried that maybe you were doing so poorly that you couldn't even look at your phone or even think about seeing me or anyone else.
00:20:18
Speaker 1: But you were tracking. You knew how fast I was going. You knew my times.
00:20:21
Speaker 3: I thought maybe you were going fast because you were in pain and you were just like, let's get this done.
00:20:26
Speaker 2: I don't even have time to stop. But now I'm like spiraling because.
00:20:30
Speaker 3: I'm worried that you're upset that you didn't see me and I can't communicate with you.
00:20:36
Speaker 1: And it took us till what? Last night to figure out what the problem was. For reasons only known to Apple and the dear Lord above, my phone ended up with in sleep mode. So I wasn't getting notifications. And so I have my AirPods in and I can hear a message if it comes through, but in sleep mode, it doesn't let you know. So running all that way, everything going on with me, pulling out my phone out of the tights every few minutes and trying to read as I'm trying to watch every step to make sure I don't step in a pothole, just not something I was doing. So by the time I pulled it out, I didn't go through and re-go back to all the Roblox messages. The last one I saw was, see you at the finish line. And I saw it, and at the time I saw it, I thought, wow, she's a terrible partner. I need those Twizzlers.
00:21:31
Speaker 2: And you hadn't seen that.
00:21:32
Speaker 1: I was like, babe, where are you?
00:21:34
Speaker 2: The Queensboro. We're on the left. Babe, I'll see you in a minute.
00:21:37
Speaker 1: Nothing, nothing, nothing. I saw those messages last night.
00:21:39
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm devastated that I missed you.
00:21:41
Speaker 3: How did I miss you? And then the next thing was, I'll see you at the finish line. But you only saw, I'll see you at.
00:21:47
Speaker 1: The finish line. No, really. Rose, my heart sank. I guess the plan changed. No. No, no, baby. That was a pretty big struggle.
00:21:56
Speaker 2: I was waiting for you. I was leaned over. I had someone taking video, waiting.
00:22:00
Speaker 1: For the moment.
00:22:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, and never, ever saw you.
00:22:05
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but after that, what, mile 16? I really was, baby. In mile 15, 16, I.
00:22:13
Speaker 1: I took stock of where I was because you know this because you run with me all the time. I don't realize how much I do it. I sing when I'm running.
00:22:21
Speaker 3: You do.
00:22:22
Speaker 2: It's cute. It's very cute.
00:22:24
Speaker 3: And so you were singing along. And you had some songs to sing along to. Every one I thought it was a really cute idea. You had everyone in your family send you a song to run to. So you'd be thinking about them.
00:22:34
Speaker 2: It does help. It lifts you up.
00:22:36
Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Brie, Jaden, Sabine, Mom, Dad, Tish. Niece, nephew, Madison, Dylan, Betsy in Arkansas. Ava, Annalise. Annalise! Oh, my goodness. Ava sent a good song. No, it was a broccoli. It was a good one yesterday. But I got all these songs together, and they come on, and you just start thinking about that person, and it's fun. That's awesome. So, 16 to 26, Robes, after I passed you and didn't know it. 15, 16, 17... I was singing, babe. I was still doing okay. And I made a decision and I was going to text you. And I said, I don't want to put myself on the line for this. I'm going for a sub four on this bad foot. I made the call. I was doing math in my head of what I needed to hit. And I said, wow, that last mile is going to be a bitch, but I think I can do this. And you saw me. My times went from.
00:23:36
Speaker 2: What to what.
00:23:36
Speaker 1: You started speeding up.
00:23:37
Speaker 3: You were doing, you were around a 10 minute mile. You had a couple of 1020s. And then all of a sudden I started seeing 930, 920, 907. Then I saw an eight something. I was like, what the hell? Like starting at a time when most people start to peter out, you were speeding up.
00:23:55
Speaker 1: So that's the rule. We were all, you were taught and it was passed along to me. Your last mile should be your fastest. Sounds crazy to most. But yes, you should not start out Gunning it. Not for a marathon. Certainly not a marathon. So, Rose, I felt, babe, I felt so good. Oh, baby.
00:24:16
Speaker 2: Until?
00:24:17
Speaker 1: I was feeling so good. I was listening to Sticky from, what was his name?
00:24:25
Speaker 2: Sticky.
00:24:26
Speaker 1: Yes. I was listening to that. It's a Tyler, the Creator. There was a line in there where I can't say it now. He said, F with the pronouns. And I'm telling you, that got in my head, and I was in a great space. So where were you between 16 and 12? This was going on. Y'all were just maneuvering, going back. Yes.
00:24:47
Speaker 3: So when we realized that you had already passed us and there was no way, because we were even contemplating, because I felt so bad.
00:24:52
Speaker 2: I felt so sick to my stomach.
00:24:53
Speaker 3: Nikki's like, okay, well, we could get over to Fifth Avenue and Central Park, but then we will not be at the finish line.
00:24:59
Speaker 2: And I was like, you know what?
00:25:00
Speaker 1: No.
00:25:01
Speaker 3: I want to be at the finish line. I can't do that. So we made the call. And yeah, it's quite the trek.
00:25:06
Speaker 1: It's interesting.
00:25:07
Speaker 2: We got to the finish line.
00:25:08
Speaker 3: 20 to 30 minutes before you did.
00:25:11
Speaker 2: I mean, that's how long it takes to get. That's pretty close.
00:25:14
Speaker 3: Yes, it's a little scary because if anything goes wrong or if you sped up, but I even saw you were speeding up.
00:25:20
Speaker 2: I was like, we got to get to the finish line. Yes.
00:25:23
Speaker 1: Okay, so now where did things go terribly wrong? 21, 22.
00:25:28
Speaker 2: Ain't that always the case?
00:25:29
Speaker 1: 21, 22. I got past 20 and I was like, oh man, I'm doing this shit because the last six are usually mentally... The easiest, if you will, because I like ain't no way I'm going to stop.
00:25:38
Speaker 2: So for you, they're physically the hardest.
00:25:40
Speaker 1: Physically the hardest. Yes, man. Twenty one. Twenty two had two issues. One, people, please stop stepping into the marathon path. There was a marathon runner. This woman wrote she comes out of a porta potty and she steps into the path. She had plenty of space. The porta potty wasn't in the street where we were running. She comes out and just for some reason, Robes, she looks to the left where the runners are. As people are coming, she walks into, it turns her head back away and just walks into the path of all runners. Robes, I physically, I had to catch myself. I had to put both hands on her shoulders and she got shoved and it was awkward and a mess. I couldn't believe it, but I thought it was okay. Short time later, that right hamstring starts acting up where I had to catch myself.
00:26:31
Speaker 3: Because any different jerky movement at that point when your muscles are so fatigued and strained and have no glycogen left inside of them, any other awkward movement can absolutely give you a charley horse, like crazy cramping. I mean, it's unbelievable how susceptible and vulnerable your muscles are.
00:26:51
Speaker 1: She did that to me. So now I think, oh, my God, I'm in trouble. And this point, the rest of my body, I start physically breaking down. I just start getting in my head, oh, my God.
00:27:00
Speaker 3: And then I started seeing your times go to 11-minute miles.
00:27:03
Speaker 1: Man, this is where the new problem came, and it's always a new one. You've never heard me complain of this. Robes, my toenail on my left big toe started stabbing me in that toe every single step I took.
00:27:20
Speaker 3: Oof.
00:27:21
Speaker 2: Like a needle.
00:27:22
Speaker 1: Like it was a small knife.
00:27:25
Speaker 3: Oh.
00:27:26
Speaker 1: Stabbed in the toe every single stride. I thought I was going to have to stop and rip the toenail off. And it was the only way I was going to be able to make it. I considered taking my shoe off and running the rest. Stop. I'm not, baby. You're being stabbed in the toe. I didn't know how that was going to go.
00:27:49
Speaker 2: Never had that problem.
00:27:50
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:27:51
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure my times were in the last mile.
00:27:54
Speaker 2: You were in the 11th.
00:27:55
Speaker 1: In the very last one? Because I sped up. 25, sure.
00:27:59
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't see the last one.
00:28:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gave it. I just said to hell with it. I was in pain. Get across the finish line and oh my God. How did I find you? You know what? I think one of the New York Roadrunners.
00:28:11
Speaker 2: Oh, I was screaming your name.
00:28:12
Speaker 1: I think one of them told me she's up there. That was a hell of a moment. It was the only face I wanted to see. It just was. In that moment, there she is. Because you know, I mean, Sabine knows to a certain degree, but you know, you take those runs with me, baby. You know, you've been damn near every single one of those foot doctor appointments. You know.
00:28:34
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:28:35
Speaker 1: What that was.
00:28:36
Speaker 2: I woke up.
00:28:37
Speaker 3: I mean, last night, the night before, that morning, just praying to the universe, please, please, please let him finish.
00:28:45
Speaker 1: Please.
00:28:46
Speaker 3: Because I just knew how much work you put into this, how much your heart and soul was in doing this, completing this. It wasn't just about beginning it. It was about finishing it. So I didn't care what your time was. I know you didn't either.
00:29:00
Speaker 2: It was just about getting across that finish line.
00:29:11
Speaker 1: You were the best ever in, you had a Michelob Ultra ready. Yes. I waited.
00:29:19
Speaker 3: I actually was like literally tracking you and waiting until two minutes before I thought you were going to be at the finish line to get the coldest beer.
00:29:26
Speaker 1: That's good stuff.
00:29:27
Speaker 2: Because I know how you like them. Cold.
00:29:30
Speaker 1: That's good stuff.
00:29:31
Speaker 2: Icy.
00:29:32
Speaker 1: So she hands me, Rob, how long did it take me to suck that down?
00:29:34
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, that's the problem.
00:29:36
Speaker 1: And too fast.
00:29:37
Speaker 2: It was much quicker than you should have.
00:29:39
Speaker 1: Okay, so. go up to the hospitality for a short time. Take a second beer. Fine. Let's get out of here. Take one shoe off, the one with the toe issue, as we're walking out. I probably said it out loud. Man, I think I drank those beers too fast. You did.
00:29:53
Speaker 2: And then you started shaking.
00:29:55
Speaker 1: And you knew what was coming next.
00:29:56
Speaker 2: And then I knew because this is my thing.
00:29:58
Speaker 3: The last two marathons, I have walked out of the marathon puking all the way to the apartment. I remember the last one was the final, the Fulton Street Metro stop or the subway stop, puking in the trash can. You didn't even... Here's the crazy thing. I mean, you see people puking when they cross the finish line.
00:30:16
Speaker 2: I've been there. That was one year for me. So I was watching people puke. They've got the little blue barf bags, but you didn't grab one.
00:30:23
Speaker 1: Oh, it didn't feel like puking when I stopped.
00:30:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, you threw up once and you were able to do that in a bush, I think.
00:30:28
Speaker 1: So it was after they gave me the, what do you call those things?
00:30:32
Speaker 3: The capes, the fleece capes because everyone's shivering. Your body temperature drops dramatically after you've put it under that much stress for that long. It's crazy how you immediately, at least I've gotten them to, you get the, The chills, the shivers.
00:30:44
Speaker 1: Because you're wet and it's still 60 degrees outside.
00:30:46
Speaker 3: Yes. And your whole body has just been through pretty significant trauma.
00:30:51
Speaker 1: I'm the worst at that. And then the pain in the foot, which we learned why your body causes you to get nauseous. But I had a bunch of stuff going on.
00:30:59
Speaker 3: Right.
00:31:00
Speaker 1: So I get the orange cape. And then you start to- I got how many steps?
00:31:04
Speaker 2: Not very far. So you threw up. But then the worst part is you're like, babe, I can't. We need to get an Uber.
00:31:08
Speaker 3: So we get- We get to a corner. I think it was Columbus 69th, right?
00:31:16
Speaker 1: Watch where you're stepping around that pole.
00:31:18
Speaker 2: We were waiting.
00:31:19
Speaker 3: And I hear TJ. Like, TJ does not complain. He was moaning. I was like, oh, no, I know that feeling, that feeling before you're going to throw up. And all of a sudden, without any warning, and there were so many people around us. I saw people like, I mean, your puke went. It was just water or beer pretty much.
00:31:36
Speaker 2: It had no substance in it. So it actually didn't... It sounds terrible. It didn't smell at all. It was just like literally beer coming out of your body. And then it was just going all over the sidewalk. I was like, oh my God, because there's a slight decline or like.
00:31:49
Speaker 1: It was... Like someone opened a fire hydrant.
00:31:53
Speaker 2: It was awful. And then no one even knew. People were just like, doo-doo-doo-doo-doo.
00:31:57
Speaker 1: Going about their business in New York.
00:31:58
Speaker 3: It's so crazy. Everyone's got the marathoners. And then on the Uber ride home, you were like, babe, where's my bag?
00:32:05
Speaker 2: Dump it out. Dump it out. The little runner's bag.
00:32:07
Speaker 1: I tried to be calm. I said, babe, I need you to dump that bag out right now. And you weren't catching what I was putting.
00:32:12
Speaker 2: I really wasn't understanding what you were about to do. And I was like, oh, oh, he needs to puke again.
00:32:16
Speaker 1: So we just saved an Uber ride. his car by getting that bag out in time. So yes, that was the ride home. Now, finally we get here, Robes, you gave me an anti-nauseant. I guess that worked. It was disgusting, but.
00:32:30
Speaker 3: It melts in your mouth. It's Zofran and it works.
00:32:35
Speaker 2: I use it actually.
00:32:36
Speaker 3: I take one to two while I'm running to stop the nausea while I'm running because I just get, it's just really hard for me when I'm running not to feel like I want to puke.
00:32:46
Speaker 2: So yes, I'm glad that helped.
00:32:47
Speaker 3: Got you some Diet Coke and you eventually, I think.
00:32:52
Speaker 2: You've, I've never seen you do this.
00:32:53
Speaker 3: We had plans to go meet friends at 3.30 for margaritas and to say congrats. And we got back and you just, you didn't even shower. You did change into a robe, thankfully. But then you just passed out on the couch on my lap for like two and a half hours. I have never seen you do that before.
00:33:12
Speaker 1: Hey, I needed a nap. You needed a nap. And every time you got up, I was like, where are you going?
00:33:17
Speaker 2: You got so mad at me. You were like, can you please just come back? I was actually, you know what I did?
00:33:22
Speaker 1: Okay, now you said I got so mad. You didn't. Okay. You were sad. That sounds a certain way.
00:33:25
Speaker 2: No, that's true. That's true. I'm sorry. It was cute. It was like you were like an eight-year-old boy. I'm like, come back. Where'd you go?
00:33:33
Speaker 1: You went somewhere once. I said, how long are you going to be? What?
00:33:38
Speaker 2: It was cute. It was like you needed your security blanket.
00:33:42
Speaker 3: And I was actually, I went to go do laundry because your clothes, I mean, God love you, but you run a marathon.
00:33:48
Speaker 2: You don't want those clothes lingering. So I needed to get a wash on. So that's actually where I went was to wash your marathon clothes for you because I want to despair us all.
00:33:59
Speaker 1: It was for you.
00:34:00
Speaker 2: It was mostly for me.
00:34:01
Speaker 1: But I'm supposed to say thank you. I finally got food, got a little pizza. My appetite didn't come back really until this morning, but You were surprised. I feel physically no pain other than toes.
00:34:12
Speaker 3: You were in such bad shape just after the marathon. I thought, oh, what's it going to be like in the morning? I come up, you are bright-eyed, bushy-tailed, feeling good. You haven't limped, hobbled. You say you have no sore muscles. I don't even know who you are.
00:34:28
Speaker 1: Toes. Toes are little jacks. Two toes. Two toenails.
00:34:33
Speaker 3: Even on a good marathon, my quads, my hamstrings, my... Everything's a little sore.
00:34:40
Speaker 1: Oh, you know what, babe? Maybe this has.
00:34:43
Speaker 1: We resisted this, but I was forced to do it this time. I did not follow the traditional running schedule, which gets, what, a 14-miler or 16 and 18 and 20? Yes. But your training runs get that high. I did not run more than a half marathon for this training. And it is the best I have physically... Felt, and my body is held up in a marathon.
00:35:09
Speaker 2: You're not like the rest of us, though.
00:35:11
Speaker 1: I don't know, baby.
00:35:12
Speaker 2: That would scare me.
00:35:14
Speaker 1: It scared me, but I didn't have a choice. Sorry, I got a cough drop in my mouth. That's why I sounded crazy.
00:35:20
Speaker 3: And you did want to say you had a sign you hated you wanted to point out. Look, we like most of the marathon signs.
00:35:25
Speaker 2: They're very fun. I had fun putting mine together for you. That's cute. Yes, but there was.
00:35:31
Speaker 1: You didn't see this one?
00:35:32
Speaker 2: No.
00:35:32
Speaker 1: Okay. I saw it at least twice. But imagine just a big white poster board somebody's holding up, and there's a circle in the middle where a woman's vagina would be. And it has two legs coming out of it as if a woman was in stirrups or giving birth. And the sign reads, keep pushing.
00:35:55
Speaker 3: And then you put, so the person who has the sign puts their face like they're the baby coming out of a woman's vagina.
00:36:02
Speaker 2: That's disgusting.
00:36:03
Speaker 1: I didn't like that.
00:36:03
Speaker 3: And I told you as I was researching like some clever marathon signs, I was just trying to get some inspiration. I saw pictures of some signs that I was like, ew.
00:36:13
Speaker 2: One of them is... I like long, hard things too. What? That is just, stop. I guess it's kind of funny, but ew.
00:36:22
Speaker 1: Who wants to hold that sign?
00:36:24
Speaker 2: Right, right.
00:36:24
Speaker 1: And tell their father about it. Ew.
00:36:29
Speaker 2: Yes, grandparents are running past you. Children are running past you.
00:36:33
Speaker 1: You know what, babe? That's a good point.
00:36:34
Speaker 2: And I just, there's no way.
00:36:37
Speaker 1: You know what? Wow. When you think of it that way, there's a certain way you behave at a bar versus at your kid's.
00:36:43
Speaker 2: It's not OK.
00:36:44
Speaker 3: And then there was another one that a pregnant woman was holding a sign and it says, you're a finisher.
00:36:54
Speaker 2: Here's proof or he's a finisher. And here's proof. And then pointed to her belly.
00:36:59
Speaker 3: Like, no, I don't want this sexual innuendo when you're running.
00:37:02
Speaker 2: Like, no, let's keep things clean.
00:37:04
Speaker 1: Like the farts.
00:37:05
Speaker 2: Let's talk about farts. Let's talk about smells. Let's talk about all that. But let's keep sex out of it. Let's just make this not sexy.
00:37:13
Speaker 1: Two last things here. One of them, I'm trying to find this sign on that. There was a plane that was flying overhead at the starting line.
00:37:23
Speaker 2: Oh, yes. That was hilarious.
00:37:24
Speaker 1: Oh, you did see that?
00:37:25
Speaker 2: I did see it.
00:37:26
Speaker 1: Please take a pre-race poop. Brought to you by Good Wipes.
00:37:30
Speaker 2: That's funny.
00:37:30
Speaker 1: The other, please tell folks, anybody who is excited about it, thinks it's really cool, really fun, wants to get into running, wants to do the marathon next year, wants it for social media content, wants it for a personal goal, please listen to this from Robes. A story you have, two women you were standing next to, and not to dog them and not to embarrass them. Anything like that. That's not the point. But I think a lot of people feel the way these women might feel after watching people complete the marathon. Yes.
00:37:58
Speaker 3: So we were right there at the finish line. And look, I would say, obviously, even if you've had like the hardest run of your life, when you are crossing that finish line, if you've got any strength left in you, you're raising your arms up, you're celebrating, you're smiling.
00:38:13
Speaker 2: You're thanking God.
00:38:15
Speaker 3: And some people break down in tears of just joy at this idea of the accomplishment they've just, what they've just done. And these two women started talking to each other and they said, oh.
00:38:27
Speaker 2: My God, I mean, I know it's hard, but they make it all look so easy. And they turned to each other. I feel like we could do this next year. I mean, look how much fun they're having. Don't you think we could? It can't be that hard.
00:38:39
Speaker 3: And I said, so you've never run a marathon before? And they said, no, but like, It looks like so much fun. And I said, I'm telling you right now, however hard you think it is, multiply it by a thousand.
00:38:51
Speaker 2: I assure you. I assure you. And I was watching. I go, I can totally see.
00:38:56
Speaker 3: Well, you would say that seeing the last 10 seconds, but the truth is you're not there at mile 20, mile 19. I mean, the last six miles for me, at least in this last several marathons I've done, I had my head down.
00:39:11
Speaker 2: Like I didn't hear anyone calling my name. I couldn't look up once.
00:39:15
Speaker 3: Every single ounce of mental strength I had had to go into convincing my legs to take one more step. And then yes, when I crossed the finish line, I did have a big smile on my face. And in most of the pictures, I see the cameras, I smile, but inside, I.
00:39:33
Speaker 2: Am actually dying.
00:39:35
Speaker 3: So I guess, and look, I know they didn't know what they said, they didn't realize, but it is so offensive when you know how hard it is and how devastating it is for at least a couple miles for everybody, for people to be like, ooh, that looks like fun.
00:39:51
Speaker 2: Let's do it next year. It's kind of like when Elle.
00:39:54
Speaker 3: Woods, for anyone who loves Legally Blonde, when she goes, getting into Harvard, like, is that hard?
00:40:00
Speaker 2: It's the same kind of, like, Harvard? Like, how's that hard to get into?
00:40:05
Speaker 3: It's the same sentiment when you say, oh, let's just run a marathon next year.
00:40:10
Speaker 1: It looks like fun. We welcome all. Obviously. Love to see more people running. A record number entered into this. Robes, but this, at times, I'm not some running snob. I'm still fairly a novice, I guess you could argue. But Robes, to hear people talk about the marathon and treat it in such a way, it disrespects the work that other people put into it. Many people get into this thing through a lot of sponsorships. And that's fine to include them. And it's fine if you want to walk it, if you want to jog it, if you don't want to train for it, if you just want some social media content. All that is okay. We just ask that you respect the folks who just had an MRI 10 weeks ago. You respect the folks who started training six months ago. You respect the folks who are 75 and living out a lifelong dream and are running past you. We just ask that. please be considerate to the folks who are putting in that work.
00:41:14
Speaker 2: It's so true.
00:41:16
Speaker 3: You just reminded me, one of my favorite, it could almost make me cry, finish lines, there were three, it was two men and a woman, and they were absolutely in their late 70s, maybe even pushing 80, and they were holding hands. Oh, And they finished like at 4.04, like faster than I have ever run it.
00:41:38
Speaker 2: I had chills from head to toe. And she looked up to the stars and she shook her head.
00:41:44
Speaker 3: And I'll cry now just thinking like, holy hell, that woman just smoked every single time I've ever had.
00:41:52
Speaker 2: And look at her go. And there were three, and the three of them together. It was just awesome. I was inspired.
00:41:59
Speaker 1: Folks being dismissive of that effort. It's like showing up to somebody's wedding in jean shorts.
00:42:06
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:42:07
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't care what you put into this or anybody else has to do. It's tough to see, and I don't want to be that curmudgeon kind of a.
00:42:17
Speaker 3: But when you see people walking at mile three, you know that they didn't put in the work.
00:42:23
Speaker 1: You know what? That's different. Some don't take it seriously versus the running... I actually heard so many times. You know what? Sabine brought this to my attention a year or two ago. Showing me something. Yeah, this woman said she ran a marathon. She didn't even train. Like Sabine was questioning me about my training. And we looked into this and yes, it was some social media person who walked the whole.
00:42:46
Speaker 2: It was like an eight hour finish time, right?
00:42:47
Speaker 1: But yeah, kept putting up pictures and I'm crushing it in the marathon kind of a thing. That is.
00:42:54
Speaker 2: Disingenuous.
00:42:55
Speaker 1: Man, and that's offensive to others. whose toenails are falling off.
00:42:59
Speaker 3: Yes. And by the way, I have a question because I sent you something that I thought was funny. Some marathoners get upset when you ask them their time and they think it's offensive. It's like asking a woman how old she is. Don't ask a marathoner what their time was because who cares? They did it. They started it and they finished it. And that shouldn't be the measure of the effort, the Herculean effort it takes to just run a marathon.
00:43:27
Speaker 2: Does it bother you?
00:43:29
Speaker 1: That they ask? Yeah. Depends on who's asking. And why. Because I think most people on the street, I could tell them I ran 525 and they would go, wow. I think most people don't have any concept.
00:43:41
Speaker 2: That is true.
00:43:42
Speaker 3: Only other, so if it's for competitive reasons, like no, I don't need to tell you.
00:43:46
Speaker 1: But yes, it's, you finished a marathon. Everybody who crossed the finish line You're my hero. Exactly.
00:43:52
Speaker 3: Period.
00:43:52
Speaker 2: That's how I feel, too. But you had a great time.
00:43:55
Speaker 1: And thank you again, my dear love. We're out there together next year.
00:43:59
Speaker 3: It was my pleasure. I was going to tell you your time grade. So the time age graded time. Do you want to know what that was? So the New York Roadrunners, you get your official time. But then when you're old, like we are, they actually give you your time age graded.
00:44:12
Speaker 1: Time.
00:44:12
Speaker 2: As if, I guess, if you were younger.
00:44:14
Speaker 1: Oh, somebody my age.
00:44:15
Speaker 2: Okay, I got you.
00:44:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, for someone your age, you did a 354.48. So you did a sub four with your time age, graded time.
00:44:22
Speaker 1: Like weighted courses or something.
00:44:26
Speaker 2: Yes, I thought that would make you feel good. You did it, baby. Oh, my God.
00:44:31
Speaker 1: That is a perfect note to end on. I told you she was impressive this last couple days. All right, folks, we appreciate you always listening. I'm TJ. That's Robes. We'll talk soon.
