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Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
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Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom.
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How's it going, Tony, Day two of Big ten media days,
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and to say it has been a whirlwind pace today
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would be a little bit of an understatement.
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Yeah, lots of stuff going on, some stuff going on
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at the same time as other stuff. But we do
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what we can. We try our best and sometimes do
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we fall short. No, it's everybody else's faults.
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The world has failed us in some ways, but in
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other ways we have been able to overcome.
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That's right, and that's a lot it's overcome. But you know,
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you face a little adversity in the summer. It sets
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you up for the season, but we will also face
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adversity covering games.
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But welcome everybody.
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We have now finished talking with Ryan Day, talking with
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Julian's saying and Jayleen McLain and Jeremiah Smith.
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I want to talk.
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About Ryan Day here right now, and Tom, I want
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you to try to guess. So Jeremiah Smith is have
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many conversation with Mickey Muratti and Nick Coach Bick said, Hey,
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do you know who the toughest player on the team is?
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And Jeremiah is like, you know, thinking about it, it's
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like who And then Mick told him. And then when
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Ryan Day was told this story and told this answer,
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there was.
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Like, Okay, well I'm going to guess and I don't
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think this is the same story. But I was in
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the back for Jeremiah and for him talking about one thing,
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and he he mentioned rock boyd oh, and in terms
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of rock Boy, Well, you know what, we're gonna say that,
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Jeremias the show because you obviously are expecting a different answer,
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So why don't you tell me the answer?
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Quarterback Julian's saying it.
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Well, you know what, if that's.
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True, that's potentially a really big development because I know
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I was there when Jeremiah spposed to talking about him
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in some other contexts, and he talked about the fact
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that he is ready to run more. I think they've
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been training together during the off season, and you know
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that it is very much I think an I Am
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the Tiger situation where this is potentially a contract year
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for both of those guys, and I think both guys
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recognize that both guys recognize they weren't that far from
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winning it all last year, and you get a little
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bit close. You know, you put it, you get yourself
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a little bit closer, you may get the team a
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little bit closer.
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Well, and they Mick has them training together or in
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the workouts together.
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Yeah, yeah, in the weight room.
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So you know, Julian obviously likes that because Jeremiah is
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incredibly hard workers, so that was fun for him.
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But yeah, just.
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The having that guy be whether you know, Nick is
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blowing somebody up or what.
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But it's like your quarterback.
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Being able to answer the call in those in those
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ways then allows for them to do things in other
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ways during the game when you know all of this,
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all of the stuff you're doing off off of the
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field applies on the field. So I thought that was
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one interesting thing, the one thing that I was trying
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to find out, and it was impossible, almost possible to
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get a question in the offensive line and where is
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everybody wears Austin Sierveld wears In more time, they hope
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to have that answer by about practice nine or ten.
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So I have enough information that either Ian Moore could
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do it, or Austin Sierveld should do it, or Josh
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Berdia needs to play, or you know, like they he
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said they're gonna go with their best five, and they
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need to know who that is by about practice nine
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or ten, which is week two of practice, so that
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you can so that you can begin getting ready for
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game planning with your starting lineup.
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And that's about the time that they typically will say
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they want to have a starting quarterback as well. And
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I get it. I understand, and I do think there
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is potentially some legitimate question here because Josh da the
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fact that Josh Pvida wasn't practicing this spring means you
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really have not seen the different permutations of this line
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working together in a full practice set up, Like there's
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certain stuff they can do this time of year, but
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there's other stuff they're limited and they can't do, and
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so you really haven't seen this in an eleven on
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eleven situation. So I get it, and I think there
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probably is a legitimate question at that. You know, there
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are sometimes when we will be at Big ten media
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days and they'll say, well, the quarterback competition still an
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open question is like is it really because can I
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bet on one of the outcomes? Because I think I
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know that you're going to have this outcomings to be
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able to announce it on about the.
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Tuesday of the third week. I bet I can get that.
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This one feels like a little bit more of a
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legitimate question.
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Yeah, And rarely has the offensive line that has been
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the number one offensive line in the spring been the
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exact offensive line over the past few years in fall camp.
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And so this one, it's not a huge surprise. It's
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kind of you know, we've all been fantasy booking this thing,
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but there wasn't there wasn't enough evidence in the spring
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when Craveld and Philip Daniels are both out for two weeks,
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and Dean more you know he played, but this one
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spring camp not to let you know that he's ready
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to go.
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Options.
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Well, this is this is one of those would you
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bet on it? Okay, would you bet your house on it? Like,
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there's a lot more than just a house at stake
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with this Ohio State football season, in really every Ohio
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State football season, because if you go out in the
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first round of the playoff, well that's a very different
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kind of offseason for coaches, players, program donors, everything than
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if you win the national champion him and so there
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is a lot at stake this year and you look
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at the schedule, and there's a lot at stake very
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early in this season, and there's a lot at steak
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in the middle part of the season. You don't have
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the luxury as well. We'll figure it out, you know.
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Remember when Michigan had the quarterback battle, It's like, well,
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we'll have one guy start one game and one guy
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start the second game, and then we'll sort of figure
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it out from there.
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They don't have the luxury that.
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This year now. And you mentioned the schedule.
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He said, this schedule is going to get them used
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to playing and accustomed to playing and comfortable playing into
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the fourth quarter in the playoffs. Should they win these games, Yeah,
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these regular season games. And I believe there's an Iowa
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reporter writer here asking Ryan, what do you remember about
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that twenty seventeen game in Iowa City, And his quote
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was like, I've wiped that from my mind.
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He said, he said, quote that was really bad. And
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he said, quote, I try not to remember that game.
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Thanks for bringing it up, Tony. I don't think he
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really meant that last part.
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No, And he the good news is he knows what
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to expect there. He knows that anything can happen, and
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most of it is bad. But also that's just one
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of the games. There's Texas, there's Indiana, usc SO, and
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that's just the road games.
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Well, and Jeremiah Smith when he was listing some of
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the tough road games, the first three games he listed
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were Texas, Indiana, and.
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Nebraska, and I thought, interesting, I don't think that would
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be the third game that most people would list.
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But you know, the even even the potentially fifth toughest
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road game they have this year is no joke.
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This is a very, very challenging schedule.
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And that doesn't include the home games against Michigan and Oregon.
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Yeah, exactly, And so they're going to be well prepared
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for the playoffs and and operating in those final moments
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that maybe didn't go so well last year for them.
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And even even Julian I think Julian Saying talked a
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little bit about how it was that last year's schedule
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is easy.
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He's like, well, let's just say what it is.
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Last year's schedule is easier than this year's schedule, and
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so they will be more prepared. Doesn't mean they're gonna
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win them all, but this won't be the first time
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during an uh oh, we better come up or something
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like they always go back to the two thousand and
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two team which they were born uh oh uh huh,
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and then we've got to deal with this, and like
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every game was like that. So by the time you
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get to Miami double overtime, it's like.
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Yeah, that whole season was brought to you by Spaghettios
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and they but they by the time they got to
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the end of the season, they had been playing in
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those games all season long. Miami had like a close
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game against Boston College that year and a close game
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against Florida State, and that was kind of it. They
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just kind of killed everyone else. So that was not
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and you know, that was a one game postseason at
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that point, so they didn't even have a conference championship
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game to prepare. It was just regular season BCS national title.
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So yeah, that you can you can certainly make a
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point that, yo, this will prepare them better for the playoff,
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but also don't lose three of the games, because then
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you might not make the playoff.
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One one thing that Ryan day, he continues to be
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asked about this, even though nothing has changed between this
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bring and now in terms of pace of play. I
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think people are just wanting a different answer. Yeah, to
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say no, we're.
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Going to go faster.
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That's that's what are you sure you're stilln't And basically
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he said what we've said in terms of you can't
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say it didn't work in twenty twenty four because the
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pace of play was essentially the same between the two years.
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It's like, you can't say it didn't work in twenty
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twenty four, but you also can't say it did work
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in twenty twenty five. But what you can't do is
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the easiest thing to do. And he said this about
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something else and the loss is the easiest thing to
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do is do nothing or change everything. Yeah, And instead
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you've got to find what worthy issues. And as he
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said in the spring, it's not about the pace of play,
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it's not about tempo. It's about efficiency. And I think
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people are just like, no, it's about we want to
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see faster and seems like what the questions are, It's
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like the answer is not going to change. They've not
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played a game yet. They have not you know, had
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sixty two snaps and lost to where now they're like, oh,
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we better move faster.
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Yet, right, And it's something where people have made up
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their mind that that was a cause of issue, and
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was it the cause of the issue.
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It may have been, I can't tell you it wasn't.
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But also I don't think you can definitively say, you know, hey,
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if if they had gone at the exact same pace
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and Julian Sayan hadn't thrown that pick six, or if
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Julian Sayan's knee hadn't scraped the turf against Indiana, or
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if Jaden Fielding hadn't missed the field goal, you could
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play at the exact same pace and win the game.
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Now we've gone through the whole game theory thing, and
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you know, if you're a big favorite, you want to have,
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you want to maximize your number of players. You can
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build upon your you know, incremental advantage at each So
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like I mean, I can certainly make the game theory
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argument for playing with a little more tempo. But they
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have won with this, they have lost with this. This
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is not necessarily the single driving factor. It's certainly one
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potential piece of this. And you know, I think Arthur
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Smith is probably going to come in and have his
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own thoughts on this, because yeah, he's done this at
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a different level.
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He's he has been in charge.
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Of you know, not just spring an but running full
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NFL teams, so he's certainly going to have his own
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views as well.
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Last thing, Brian Day mentioned a particular position group that
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he's definitely going to have his eye on.
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I was there for this one.
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This season, and he talked about the running backs because
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did not see Bo Jackson or Isaiah West in the spring.
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And he mentioned something that we've talked about, which is
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the freshman running backs that the freshman thousand yard rushers like.
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He didn't go to the detail, but he talked about JK.
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Dobbins outstanding as a freshman. Didn't want to call it
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a sophomore slump, but he was a much different back
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three yards for carrying different back.
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And what they can't have is for.
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Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
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Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom.
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How's it going, Tony, Day two of Big ten media days,
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and to say it has been a whirlwind pace today
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would be a little bit of an understatement.
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at the same time as other stuff. But we do
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what we can. We try our best and sometimes do
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we fall short. No, it's everybody else's faults.
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The world has failed us in some ways, but in
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other ways we have been able to overcome.
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That's right, and that's a lot it's overcome. But you know,
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you face a little adversity in the summer. It sets
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you up for the season, but we will also face
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adversity covering games.
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But welcome everybody.
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We have now finished talking with Ryan Day, talking with
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Julian's saying and Jayleen McLain and Jeremiah Smith.
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I want to talk.
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About Ryan Day here right now, and Tom, I want
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you to try to guess. So Jeremiah Smith is have
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many conversation with Mickey Muratti and Nick Coach Bick said, Hey,
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do you know who the toughest player on the team is?
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And Jeremiah is like, you know, thinking about it, it's
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like who And then Mick told him. And then when
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Ryan Day was told this story and told this answer,
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think this is the same story. But I was in
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the back for Jeremiah and for him talking about one thing,
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and he he mentioned rock boyd oh, and in terms
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of rock Boy, Well, you know what, we're gonna say that,
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Jeremias the show because you obviously are expecting a different answer,
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Quarterback Julian's saying it.
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in some other contexts, and he talked about the fact
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that he is ready to run more. I think they've
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been training together during the off season, and you know
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that it is very much I think an I Am
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the Tiger situation where this is potentially a contract year
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for both of those guys, and I think both guys
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recognize that both guys recognize they weren't that far from
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winning it all last year, and you get a little
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bit close. You know, you put it, you get yourself
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a little bit closer, you may get the team a
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incredibly hard workers, so that was fun for him.
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blowing somebody up or what.
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everybody wears Austin Sierveld wears In more time, they hope
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said they're gonna go with their best five, and they
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fact that Josh Pvida wasn't practicing this spring means you
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there's other stuff they're limited and they can't do, and
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eleven situation. So I get it, and I think there
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probably is a legitimate question at that. You know, there
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days and they'll say, well, the quarterback competition still an
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open question is like is it really because can I
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bet on one of the outcomes? Because I think I
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know that you're going to have this outcomings to be
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able to announce it on about the.
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Tuesday of the third week. I bet I can get that.
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the number one offensive line in the spring been the
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exact offensive line over the past few years in fall camp.
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kind of you know, we've all been fantasy booking this thing,
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but there wasn't there wasn't enough evidence in the spring
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when Craveld and Philip Daniels are both out for two weeks,
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and Dean more you know he played, but this one
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spring camp not to let you know that he's ready
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bet on it? Okay, would you bet your house on it? Like,
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there's a lot more than just a house at stake
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with this Ohio State football season, in really every Ohio
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first round of the playoff, well that's a very different
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kind of offseason for coaches, players, program donors, everything than
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if you win the national champion him and so there
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is a lot at stake this year and you look
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at the schedule, and there's a lot at stake very
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early in this season, and there's a lot at steak
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in the middle part of the season. You don't have
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the luxury as well. We'll figure it out, you know.
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we'll have one guy start one game and one guy
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start the second game, and then we'll sort of figure
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They don't have the luxury that.
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This year now. And you mentioned the schedule.
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to playing and accustomed to playing and comfortable playing into
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the fourth quarter in the playoffs. Should they win these games, Yeah,
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these regular season games. And I believe there's an Iowa
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reporter writer here asking Ryan, what do you remember about
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that twenty seventeen game in Iowa City, And his quote
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was like, I've wiped that from my mind.
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he said, quote, I try not to remember that game.
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Thanks for bringing it up, Tony. I don't think he
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really meant that last part.
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to expect there. He knows that anything can happen, and
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most of it is bad. But also that's just one
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of the games. There's Texas, there's Indiana, usc SO, and
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that's just the road games.
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the tough road games, the first three games he listed
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were Texas, Indiana, and.
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Nebraska, and I thought, interesting, I don't think that would
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be the third game that most people would list.
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road game they have this year is no joke.
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This is a very, very challenging schedule.
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for the playoffs and and operating in those final moments
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that maybe didn't go so well last year for them.
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little bit about how it was that last year's schedule
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is easy.
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so they will be more prepared. Doesn't mean they're gonna
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win them all, but this won't be the first time
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during an uh oh, we better come up or something
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like they always go back to the two thousand and
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two team which they were born uh oh uh huh,
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and then we've got to deal with this, and like
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every game was like that. So by the time you
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get to Miami double overtime, it's like.
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those games all season long. Miami had like a close
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against Florida State, and that was kind of it. They
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just kind of killed everyone else. So that was not
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and you know, that was a one game postseason at
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that point, so they didn't even have a conference championship
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game to prepare. It was just regular season BCS national title.
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point that, yo, this will prepare them better for the playoff,
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but also don't lose three of the games, because then
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you might not make the playoff.
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One one thing that Ryan day, he continues to be
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asked about this, even though nothing has changed between this
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bring and now in terms of pace of play. I
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think people are just wanting a different answer. Yeah, to
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say no, we're.
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Going to go faster.
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That's that's what are you sure you're stilln't And basically
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he said what we've said in terms of you can't
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say it didn't work in twenty twenty four because the
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pace of play was essentially the same between the two years.
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It's like, you can't say it didn't work in twenty
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twenty four, but you also can't say it did work
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in twenty twenty five. But what you can't do is
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the easiest thing to do. And he said this about
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something else and the loss is the easiest thing to
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do is do nothing or change everything. Yeah, And instead
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you've got to find what worthy issues. And as he
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said in the spring, it's not about the pace of play,
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it's not about tempo. It's about efficiency. And I think
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people are just like, no, it's about we want to
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see faster and seems like what the questions are, It's
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like the answer is not going to change. They've not
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played a game yet. They have not you know, had
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sixty two snaps and lost to where now they're like, oh,
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we better move faster.
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Yet, right, And it's something where people have made up
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their mind that that was a cause of issue, and
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was it the cause of the issue.
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It may have been, I can't tell you it wasn't.
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But also I don't think you can definitively say, you know, hey,
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if if they had gone at the exact same pace
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and Julian Sayan hadn't thrown that pick six, or if
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Julian Sayan's knee hadn't scraped the turf against Indiana, or
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if Jaden Fielding hadn't missed the field goal, you could
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play at the exact same pace and win the game.
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Now we've gone through the whole game theory thing, and
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you know, if you're a big favorite, you want to have,
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you want to maximize your number of players. You can
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build upon your you know, incremental advantage at each So
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like I mean, I can certainly make the game theory
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argument for playing with a little more tempo. But they
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have won with this, they have lost with this. This
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is not necessarily the single driving factor. It's certainly one
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potential piece of this. And you know, I think Arthur
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Smith is probably going to come in and have his
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own thoughts on this, because yeah, he's done this at
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a different level.
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He's he has been in charge.
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NFL teams, so he's certainly going to have his own
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views as well.
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Last thing, Brian Day mentioned a particular position group that
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he's definitely going to have his eye on.
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I was there for this one.
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This season, and he talked about the running backs because
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did not see Bo Jackson or Isaiah West in the spring.
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the freshman running backs that the freshman thousand yard rushers like.
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He didn't go to the detail, but he talked about JK.
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Dobbins outstanding as a freshman. Didn't want to call it
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a sophomore slump, but he was a much different back
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three yards for carrying different back.
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And what they can't have is for.
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Bo Jackson and Isaiah West to have a similar drop off.
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They need to pick it up. You can't go up, down, up.
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They need them this year to be cranking. And that's
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why I said, I'm going to be watching that position.
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talked about it being a little bit of a question
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in the spring and a question last summer. That was
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a position where he had questions there as well. I
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don't think they've got a definitive answer there. I think
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they've wanted to.
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Pretend answers there.
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And he went through, you know, yeah, Bo you got you,
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you have Isaiah, You've got you, Kobe Jackson, He talked
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about Legend Bay.
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He mentioned Turbo Rogers.
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Those were the This is one of these things where
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we pay attention to the names he says, and the
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order he says, the ben because that's generally a little
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bit telling, and that was the order.
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Fourth name was Legend Bay. He went into a little
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more detail on Legend Bay later.
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Legend Bay obviously missed some time in the spring healthy
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this summer, so that's no longer a concern. The quote
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was the talent is there for sure, you can't deny that.
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But he later said, well, there's more to it than
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just talent, Like you can be talented.
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That's great.
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That doesn't get you on the field, that doesn't get
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you carries. It means you're in the conversation. But they
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need him to kind of do all the other stuff.
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Yeah, and I wrote down the exact quote, but it
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was something to the effect he added, when he's got
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the ball, you're gonna notice him.
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There was something to that there.
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There's no question that when you see the ball in
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his hands, he's going to stick out.
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Yeah, And so that's I think that's exciting for everybody.
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So that's basically a wrap up of Ryan Day. We
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will have much much more, as I said, and talk
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to Jeremiah Smith, talk with Julian Sam, talk with Jaylen McLain,
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talking with other coaches Big ten coaches. We are throwing
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Some of it is definitely related to Ohio State.
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