CD1 Debate: Two Moderates Walk Into a Gerrymander

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This is Special Session and I'm your host Brian Schott with Utah Political Watch.
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For the first time in years, a Utah congressional race is an actual race.
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Tuesday night,
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Democrat Ben McAdams and Republican Riley Owen met on the debate stage at Salt Lake
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Community College for the first congressional district debate.
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This is the new Democratic Leaning seat that exists only because of court throughout the
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legislature's gerrymandered map.
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We went live and watched it with you and what follows is that live stream.
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If you were expecting a brawl,
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well,
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sorry,
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it was mostly two moderates being very polite
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to each other.
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They agreed on a lot,
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but there were some real fights about tariffs,
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about the national
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debt and about the maps that created this district in the first place.
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We break down who helped themselves,
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who didn't,
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and what this race means for a state that
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has sent four Republicans to Congress for years.
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Before we get to that, if you haven't already,
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Thanks for doing that.
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And now here's our live stream of the CD1 debate from Tuesday night on TikTok.
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Grandmumu says, why are all the Republicans running the female Supreme Court justices
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out?
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Pretty much because of mostly this decision, the decision that put this Democrat leaning
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district in place.
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That's what happened.
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And it was Judge Diana Gibson who put this district in place.
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Remember the redistricting lawsuit happened a number of years ago.
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The League of Women Voters in a coalition of other groups, Mormon with Women for Ethical
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Government.
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They all,
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sorry,
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they sued claiming that these maps, the congressional map that the
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legislature put in place in 2021,
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was an illegal gerrymander.
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And so it made its way through the courts,
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made it all the way to the Supreme Court,
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came back down because the legislature said,
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"We can repeal, we can change any initiative
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passed by the public that was Proposition 4, which put an independent redistricting commission
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in place.
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What happened from that,
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it came back down and then the judge ordered the legislature
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or gave them the opportunity,
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she didn't order them at all, she gave them the opportunity
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to write a,
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or draw a new map,
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draw a new congressional map, which they did.
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And the map that they submitted to the judge was illegal because it violated the provisions
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of Prop 4,
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which was the judge found that the legislature illegally repealed Prop 4,
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which was passed by the voters.
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And so she gave them the opportunity to draw a new map as long as it followed the guidelines
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in Prop 4.
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And she found out it didn't because one of the things you cannot do is you cannot use
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partisan data when you draw these maps.
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And when the questioning was going on, when these
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maps were submitted,
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the legislature submitted a map, the plaintiffs in the case actually
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submitted a couple of maps.
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And under questioning,
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Sean Trenda, who is the expert for the legislature
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who drew the map,
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he admitted that he used partisan data, which is not allowed.
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That
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is if the judge did not pick one of the maps from the plaintiffs,
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we weren't going to have
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a map for this election.
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It felt like the legislature's tactics in this case,
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their strategy was to run out the
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clock.
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But if we weren't going to have,
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if there wasn't,
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if she didn't pick one of the maps
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from the plaintiffs,
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we weren't going to have a map for this year's election.
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So she had to put a lawful map in place.
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Now you hear the Republicans saying that she overstepped her bounds by putting this map
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in place.
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No, she didn't.
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They didn't do what they were supposed to do.
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They didn't do what the law said.
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And if we didn't have a map, if she didn't pick one of these maps,
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we weren't going to
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have a map.
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And so that's probably the main reason why the legislature is running these judges out.
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Now the judge on the Supreme Court, Judge Hagen,
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there were allegations that she had
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an improper relationship with one of the lawyers involved in the redistricting case.
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She had recused herself from that decision,
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but the legislature wasn't buying it and
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there was a lot of outcry and she stepped down before they could start an investigation.
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at some other questions and comments right now.
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Ian Small,
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sorry, it was Malcolm Not
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X on YouTube says, "Is there been any polling yet?" None that I've seen that is reputable,
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at least in the congressional districts.
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Someone in the chat says the Deseret News is using
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the Deseret News and the Hinckley Institute.
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They have some polling.
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I don't know how reputable
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that is because they're using morning consult and morning consult.
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Their methods are interesting,
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so I always take that with a grain of salt. So there really hasn't been any major polling.
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And I think the reason why is because what's the point?
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This seat is most likely going to
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go for a Democrat,
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especially given the environment that we find ourselves in right now.
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Empress B on TikTok says, I hope the whole state goes blue.
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That's a pipe dream.
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I don't know if that's gonna happen.
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But anyway, we've got this debate happening tonight between Ben McAdams and
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Riley Owen.
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Ben McAdams, the former congressman.
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He was elected to Congress in 2018 and then defeated in 2020 by Burgess Owens.
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His win in 2018 was by fewer than a thousand votes and his loss in 2020 was by about 2000
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votes or something.
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So they're both very close elections.
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But with this new district,
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Berger Sohans decided to retire.
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Ben McAdams decided to run.
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He won the Democratic primary.
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It was a four-way primary and he did get over 50% of the vote among the four candidates.
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So he is the nominee.
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Riley Owen won the nomination for the Republican Party at the state convention.
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Interesting thing to talk about with the debate commission,
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a little bit of a background for
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you.
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These debates are being held by the Utah Debate Commission,
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but they're not,
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it's not the
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debate commission that we knew before.
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The debate commission was formed as an independent entity in 2013,
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and it was a coalition of media
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groups and schools,
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universities came together and they were going to sponsor these televised
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debates.
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Everybody worked together.
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The legislature got a little,
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you know, there was a proposal that came down in 2025,
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I believe,
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is when it happened.
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It might have been 2024,
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2024, 2025,
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that the legislature was asking why are we paying,
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because they were giving some funding to the Utah Debate Commission.
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But the head of the Utah Debate Commission at the time,
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former Representative Becky Edwards,
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had upset a number of the Republicans in the legislature because she ran against Mike
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Lee for Senate in 2022.
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And so they were trying to figure out a way to get her out of that position.
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And so what happened is the University of Utah and Utah Valley University came forward
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with a proposal that they were going to host these debates and the legislature gave them
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$600,000 to put these debates on.
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At the time,
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I said that that was improper because you've got now,
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because the debates have now become a political thing. They are state,
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they are funded by the state.
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And if you have something that is funded by the state,
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funded by taxpayers and legislatures and
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legislators control the purse strings,
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excuse me,
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then if the debate angers people,
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angers
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someone up on the hill,
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there's going to be some hard questions asked and it could threaten
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their funding.
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And so I thought that that was improper.
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I also thought it was improper that,
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and this was with the old debate commission and the
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new debate commission earlier on that they were using lobbyists,
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registered lobbyists
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as the moderators of the debate, which I thought was completely improper.
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They actually listened to my suggestion on that,
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and none of the moderators in these debates
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are lobbyists anymore.
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Tonight's moderator is Natalie Gawkner.
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She used to be chief of staff for Governor Michael Levitt.
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She's now the head of the,
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she's the head at the University of Utah, the name of the
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agency is escaping me.
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But I'll be interested to see what kind of questions they ask.
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One of my major criticisms of the debate commission is that their questions,
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the questions that
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they ask are, they're boring.
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They're bland.
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They have to apply to both candidates rather than asking one candidate a question and then
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letting the opponent have time to weigh in.
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And then you ask us, you know, another question to the opponent and let the other candidate
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weigh in,
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you know.
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That, that I think would be serve voters a lot better than having this, you know, one
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question and everybody has to answer the same way.
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Because the format of these things sucks.
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You've got one minute to answer, I believe is what it is, and then 30 seconds for a rebuttal.
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And then you might have chance to jump in again.
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There's just not a lot of informing the voter that's going to happen in these debates,
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despite
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the best efforts from the moderators.
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The questions are boring, like I said.
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And then they do this thing that I really object to where they bring in a college student
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from the state.
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They're at Salt Lake Community College today, so it's going to be an SLCC student or two
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who get to ask a question in the debate.
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And I mean,
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sure, that's great, but this is the only televised debate we're going to have
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between these two candidates.
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Why?
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Why are you doing that?
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Why are you?
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You know, I understand the justification that the schools have to do because they are,
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you
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know, they're funded by the state that the schools are putting it on and I understand
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why they would do this.
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I just don't think it's very useful.
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So I'm excited to see how this plays out.
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I don't know.
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I don't know for sure how Ben McAdams is going to do in this debate.
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He's pretty polished.
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Riley Owen is a he's very young.
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I think he's one of the few or only Gen Z nominees for Congress.
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He's only 27 years old.
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And so it would be fascinating to see how he handles this debate.
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But I want to watch along with you.
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I want to hear what you have to say about what you're seeing tonight.
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Answer your questions.
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We'll do that during the live broadcast of this debate, which we will be watching.
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they're expected to start in about 12 minutes.
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Slipping down in my chair.
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I don't have it
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adjusted right.
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Anyway,
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other news, you know, the big news that's still reverberating around
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the state is that former representative Trevor Lee has been charged,
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been charged.
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These
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are charges with four felony counts of mortgage fraud and forgery.
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We're seeing the fallout
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from that.
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If you go on Instagram or TikTok to my account,
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it's shot happens.
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SHO, SHOTT, HAPP,
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ENS.
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I just posted a video probably within the last hour.
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And I explain how when I was using some open source intelligence tools today,
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I may have found Trevor Lee's only fans account.
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You heard me right.
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It's the one thing I was not expecting to find that today,
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but apparently I did.
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At least there's a lot of circumstantial evidence.
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And so you should.
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You know.
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If you want to laugh, you can go check check it out, because there's a lot of
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circumstantial evidence that would show that this is
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former representative Trevor Lee's only fans account.
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He hasn't posted anything.
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There's no
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content posted.
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There's nothing posted,
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but it sure looks like it's his account.
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And you could
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find that video.
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It's on TikTok.
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It's on Instagram and it's on threads and Facebook.
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And my account
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is shot happens,
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S-E-H-O-T-T-H-A-P-P-E-N-S.
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My last name's shot.
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And that's something I,
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you know,
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someone up at the legislature came up with that name a number of years ago. And I thought it
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funny. So that is now my social profile.
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So you can go check that out and then come back.
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Hestolertale on Instagram says, "Today I toast to shot the MF and winner of the Lee Shot battle."
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Yes, we have tangled for years.
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We have tangled for years and years and years.
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And Trevor Lee
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He did not like the fact I was the first person to discover that he had this.
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He was behind this anonymous Twitter account that was posting anti LGBTQ content,
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racist
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content,
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transphobic content,
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conspiracy theories about COVID.
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I figured out it was him.
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He deleted it the moment that I reached out to him about it, but I was the first one to
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do that.
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And that is sort of colored our relationship sense.
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Um,
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he doesn't,
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he's clearly not one of my biggest fans,
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uh, but,
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but,
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um,
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you know,
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nothing I reported was untrue.
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And also,
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you know, when he had a chance to come talk to me about it in person, he couldn't.
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He just kind of slunk off into the corner,
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you know, and then he got mad at other lawmakers
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for talking to me.
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But anyway,
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and has stole her tail on Instagram says maybe he can he can mommy blog from prison.
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Yeah, that was that was Trevor Lee's favorite insult towards me after I became an independent
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journalist in 2024.
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He called me a mommy blogger.
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You know,
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at least I'm not charged.
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And again, these are just charges.
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We don't know anything, but I would rather be a mommy blogger than facing felony charges
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of mortgage fraud and forgery.
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Someone in the comments mentioned that Trevor Lee's mother,
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Susan Lee,
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is running for Davis County Commissioner. That is correct.
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I've reached out to her. I
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asked her if she had any comments on these charges her son is facing and whether she
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thinks it might impact her candidacy for,
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her candidacy for Davis County Commission.
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I don't know, she hasn't gotten back to me.
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I don't know how much of an impact it's going to have.
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She's done a pretty good job of kind of separating her son,
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Trevor,
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from,
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you know,
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being associated
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with her campaign.
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She doesn't have a Democratic opponent in that race.
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It's an independent Brett Milburn who was previously in the Davis County Commission.
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We'll see how that works out.
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If you have any questions, any comments as we are leading up to this debate between Ben
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McAdams and Riley Owen, we're going to watch the debate live as it happens.
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I'm going to talk about it.
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I want to see what your reactions are, what your questions are.
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I'm going to offer commentary about the quality of the questions.
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Now I don't expect any fireworks.
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There's not really a lot of fireworks to be had.
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I think it's going to be a pretty anodyne debate.
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And when we'll also watch the media scrums afterwards where the candidates come out and
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have to answer questions from the media for about 10 minutes after that.
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Looking in the comments,
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Michael Nash on TikTok says,
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"I almost feel bad for the amount of
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pleasure I am taking from this man's displeasure."
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There certainly is a lot of Schadenfreude,
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a surrounding,
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Trevor Lee.
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And you know what?
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The problem is,
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the problem for him is he didn't really give people a lot of grace.
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You know, he had some, he was very into the culture wars.
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He had that very trollish mentality.
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He enjoyed trolling people like getting a reaction out of people.
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And that's how he's been for years.
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And then he,
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you know, he won the seat in the legislature essentially by a fluke in
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2022.
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Stephen Handy,
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who was the incumbent,
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he did not file together signatures.
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Elliot Nutter says, "Will you have a split screen for the debate?
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I'm just watching on my phone on the go."
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Check this out, Elliot.
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This is what it's going to look like when we do the debate tonight.
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You are going to have the debate right here in your,
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um,
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right here and along as well. So yes,
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there's going to be a split screen with the debate talking about that.
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So that's what we're going to be looking at.
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I also added another camera to my setup. I'm pretty excited about that.
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So I have two cameras.
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I have this camera that does tracking and then I have my main camera back and
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forth.
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One, two, kind of nice.
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Um,
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Anyway,
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we are about five minutes away from this debate starting.
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BrickLT4 on TikTok says,
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"I can't wait for my name to be Palette Cleans having the same
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first name as him has been painful."
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I can imagine.
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I can imagine how that is.
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So anyway,
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we are getting ready to watch this debate live tonight.
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taking place on the campus of Salt Lake Community College.
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And again, I will be interested to
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see how this plays out.
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Again, I don't expect many fireworks.
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I think it will be interesting
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to see if Owen goes after Ben McAdams for,
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you know, he faced attacks from the left during
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the primary.
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And he might still have some progressive voters who are suspicious of him, but I don't
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know how Ryleo and can make that case.
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I expect Ryleo and to try and tie him to national
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democratic policies.
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They're going to try to link,
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you know, they're going to try to
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talk about,
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I wonder how many times the word socialism is going to show up tonight.
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Maybe
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the chat tonight or enters the conversation.
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Dak Sands on YouTube says,
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"Who do you think will win, Riley or Ben?"
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It's gonna be hard to say who the winner is.
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And I don't think,
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I think that Owen is trying to win
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and all McAdams has to do is not lose
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because he is the overwhelming favorite
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to win this seat in November,
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probably by double digits,
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especially with the electoral,
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you know,
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the electoral atmosphere that is shaping up right now,
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it's gonna be really hard for McAdams to lose the seat,
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really hard for Owen to win it.
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And I do not think that,
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I do not think that the new congressional district one
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is going to elect a Republican after years
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of being gerrymandered out of it,
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being gerrymandered out of it.
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So I don't know.
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Malcolm Not-X says, "What about CD2?
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Is there a legitimate competition?"
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That one is overwhelmingly Republican.
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There has been a little bit of chatter
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by Crosby's camp,
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Peter Crosby, the Democratic nominee
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in the camp.
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He has put out some polling and put polling.
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Oh,
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he's put out some quote unquote polling that shows that he's within
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striking distance of Blake Moore in congressional district two.
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When you ask who their pollster is or what their methodology is, they're
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just contacting random voters in congressional districts.
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It's not real polling.
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I'm very skeptical of those numbers because I would expect Blake Moore to win that seat
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going away.
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That's what everything tells me.
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It is an overwhelmingly Republican seat.
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I think it's the most Republican congressional seat in the country or in the state out of
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the four.
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And you would expect that Blake Moore would do well,
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especially being a member of House
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leadership.
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So I'm very skeptical of those numbers put out by Peter Crosby's camp, and that's why
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I'm not going to do a story about it.
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We're getting ready to start this live stream in less than two minutes.
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Dax Sands on YouTube asks, "Are you a Democratic or Republican?"
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I am a registered Republican,
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but I don't have a dog in this fight.
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I am not rooting for anyone because I'm a journalist.
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It's just a car on YouTube says Ben's an ideal but given the choice between him and any Republican
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it's not a tough question.
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That's what I'm saying.
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I think that it's going to be really hard for Riley Owen to make the case that he should
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be elected over Ben McAdams,
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especially given this new district.
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New district is not a Democratic district though.
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Democrats are still the third largest voting block in the state.
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Oh, looks like we are getting ready to go.
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So let's head over to our live coverage of the debate as we're waiting for the video
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to show up.
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It'll be here in just a minute as soon as we get some,
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as soon as they decide to go
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live.
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So we'll just watch this monitor see what happens.
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But again, yeah, tonight McAdams,
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he just has to not lose,
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which was kind of the same
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thing he had to do in the primary debate back in May.
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He just had to not lose.
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It's going
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to be very hard for Riley Owen to make this case.
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Sammy Soso says thanks for covering this,
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really appreciate it. Thanks for watching along.
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Oh,
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we're at the countdown now, 33 seconds.
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I think everybody can hear that audio too.
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I'm hoping you can.
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It's kind of exciting.
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Sammy Soso says,
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"Where exactly is this district?
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It covers most of Salt Lake County
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except for the southwestern portion of it.
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It covers most of,
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it's centered mostly on Salt Lake County.
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This district,
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if it had been in place in 2024,
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Kamala Harris would have won it over Donald Trump by double digits.
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Joe Biden would have won this district if it had been placed in 2020 by double
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digits over Trump.
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All right, we are ready to go.
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So let's sit back and enjoy this debate.
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Thanks for watching along.
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Chris Jones on YouTube.
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And so they still mad that Salt Lake got a non-grid district.
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Probably.
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I'm just double checking all of my audio inputs.
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I think everything is working.
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So there's your moderator,
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Natalie Gawkner.
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>> I'm Dr.
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Mowry, and I'm here for this exchange.
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And on behalf of the Utah debate commission,
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thank you for joining us.
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[APPLAUSE]
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Interesting note about Natalie Gawkner.
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She probably could have been the governor.
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A lot of people thought she was going to be the governor.
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Dank is telling, I'm trying to adjust the video,
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the audio here as we go.
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>> No, that's okay.
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>> We're still going.
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>> We're going to get to you for one minute,
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but please stay.
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>>
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Thanks, Alex.
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Good to see you again.
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Thank you to you, Todd, for making this change.
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It's all my community colleagues for hosting us today.
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I'm going to my friends and family most importantly,
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my fiance,
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who we recently got engaged in.
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She's been a rock, they're a refuge to me throughout this campaign.
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And as she and I have looked at each other,
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we're asking ourselves the same questions
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that many of you are asking.
00:28:04.820 --> 00:28:06.760
will we be a family or a poor family?
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Is corruption normal?
00:28:09.700 --> 00:28:12.040
Will we now take our jobs and natural resources?
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Clearly what we've been doing
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hasn't been Americans covering access to these questions.
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That's why we need new faces and new ideas.
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I'm the eye-corridor politician.
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I want to question the conservative
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congressional nominees in the country.
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I've taken it all to protect
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the New York Constitution points.
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One such intelligence officer in the New York
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I'm so sorry.
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And second time is the White House, South Africa, 2019,
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seeing the American artists and creating American jobs.
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And I'd be honored to give that a third time
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to work for another party and another president,
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but to fight the heat-ons of our first .
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Thank you.
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Mr. Adams,
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let me appeal to you,
00:28:51.700 --> 00:28:51.900
colleague,
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P.J.,
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I've never been worried about what you are,
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:56.760
so I'm potentially going to have people
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who are free that are working hard every hour,
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and not sure whether you have to go to sleep or take.
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nda nai kak dhok yon
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to work across differences.
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It takes what I know because I've done
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a past critical legislation.
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I'm so taught how to trust and have to work
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through this.
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Expect affordability to be a big issue
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:46.220
for both of these candidates tonight.
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They're gonna be talking about that
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'cause that's the number one issue for voters.
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This November.
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I wanna say the tone of this debate
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I just asked you a question about polarization and dignity in public life.
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It's going to be about you,
00:30:05.220 --> 00:30:07.140
because I was in two-man public office last.
00:30:07.870 --> 00:30:09.540
I think content has gotten worse.
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And I'll ask you what you can do personally to lower the temperature and create greater
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dignity.
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Okay, that's a terrible starting question.
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That's awful.
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I didn't think a lot that that would happen.
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Get into the issues.
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Don't talk about this kumbaya stuff.
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That's an awful opening question.
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This is what I told you about.
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That was awful.
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If you listen to somebody with a disability,
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if we talk about the lack of courage in politics today,
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and for sure,
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we need leaders who stand up
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and would do what's right.
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And I've done that in my political career.
00:30:39.100 --> 00:30:41.500
I've never been afraid to stand up and stand alone.
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For Utah is the sole democratic,
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a Utah-hyper-indulgation when I served before,
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but for many times,
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but I taste the soul of it,
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:51.160
supporting Utah's public lands,
00:30:52.080 --> 00:30:53.940
voting to impeach a corrupt president
00:30:54.120 --> 00:30:55.720
when he and Biden used the box office.
00:30:56.280 --> 00:30:58.700
The courage is not only standing up and standing alone.
00:30:59.140 --> 00:30:59.840
Courage is not only standing up and standing alone.
00:30:59.840 --> 00:31:02.100
McAdams talking about his vote to impeach Trump.
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That's a standard stump item for him to bring up.
00:31:06.840 --> 00:31:08.960
As you know that the people are counting on you,
00:31:09.340 --> 00:31:10.760
they don't care who you want.
00:31:11.100 --> 00:31:12.380
The camera actually changes.
00:31:12.760 --> 00:31:13.240
And so,
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they need solutions and it takes courage to work to press differences.
00:31:19.300 --> 00:31:21.940
She asks what they could do to bring down the temperature.
00:31:22.040 --> 00:31:22.900
spoiler alert,
00:31:23.060 --> 00:31:27.360
a freshman member of Congress from Utah is not going to be able to do much.
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:42.440
I think she's part of that dignity index group that Spencer Cox was trying to put for.
00:31:43.620 --> 00:31:45.200
The same year, for serving the military,
00:31:45.360 --> 00:31:47.480
the political sphere, obviously we're gonna have these rare things.
00:31:48.360 --> 00:31:52.460
Well, I think we've created so much of our content in polarization in society,
00:31:53.080 --> 00:31:53.680
it's social media.
00:31:54.840 --> 00:31:58.900
I look at an age that is a pretty short amount of me, at sixteen and a half on social media.
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:01.460
I think it's addicted so many young people.
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:06.000
The average teenager spends about 30 to 40 miles a week on social media.
00:32:06.520 --> 00:32:08.520
And this is just an issue for our young people.
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:31.900
That will not lower the temperature.
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:33.000
Bah, by the way.
00:32:36.820 --> 00:32:37.060
Okay.
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:41.100
This might be a good question because she is an economic expert.
00:32:43.080 --> 00:32:45.060
This is the question she should have started with.
00:32:45.360 --> 00:32:53.960
Right now in Utah we have over 64,000 unemployed youth in the last 12 months with last 2,300
00:32:54.260 --> 00:32:54.680
kicked out.
00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:57.640
So the level of Congress,
00:32:58.260 --> 00:33:07.300
what specific policies would you do with your support that can bring
00:33:07.300 --> 00:33:08.020
household goods.
00:33:08.820 --> 00:33:11.060
I think this is part of the most important issue of this day.
00:33:11.340 --> 00:33:14.220
Not only around the time they have the huge economic sovereignty,
00:33:14.620 --> 00:33:16.780
we're just an
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Good idea won't do anything about the price of gas.
00:34:24.940 --> 00:34:27.000
That's a good answer because that is the answer.
00:34:28.610 --> 00:34:29.460
The war in Iran,
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.879
that is the number one reason why gas prices have gone up.
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:45.000
And I have received a transfer gasoline to the
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.460
I wonder if McAdams is going to bring up,
00:35:11.740 --> 00:35:14.020
um, he had a press conference last week, I believe,
00:35:14.500 --> 00:35:15.820
and he talked about how,
00:35:16.040 --> 00:35:16.660
um,
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:21.100
he expected the Democrats to repeal the tax cuts in the big,
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:21.940
beautiful bill.
00:35:22.140 --> 00:35:23.500
I wonder if that's going to be brought up tonight.
00:35:24.240 --> 00:35:30.040
We just had a rate hike and at least I didn't want my bad start to claim any top inflation,
00:35:30.540 --> 00:35:31.900
which remains above target.
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:34.540
If you come with a fixed decision,
00:35:35.080 --> 00:35:38.260
you're now in this decision to raise interest rates
00:35:38.860 --> 00:35:41.820
and with the proper rule of promotion,
00:35:42.060 --> 00:35:43.020
disagree with the bid.
00:35:43.660 --> 00:35:47.740
But I believe that those strong and independent federalers are using the experts we put in
00:35:47.520 --> 00:35:47.820
impact,
00:35:48.660 --> 00:35:54.460
and we put in charge of having independent judgment to regulate the supply of the ash
00:35:54.500 --> 00:35:58.800
in the economy that impacts the interest rates that affect every one of us.
00:35:59.240 --> 00:35:59.800
And more
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:03.220
than these decisions by the panel, so much so than by politics,
00:36:03.900 --> 00:36:04.680
in the absence of any
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:06.140
President to dictate an outcome,
00:36:06.640 --> 00:36:10.220
we're not – what we're saying is that even as the
00:36:10.240 --> 00:36:15.320
administration has tried to bring down interest rates, what we're seeing is markets respond.
00:36:36.220 --> 00:36:38.020
So really esoteric question.
00:36:40.380 --> 00:36:41.320
You've got a lot of voters.
00:36:41.640 --> 00:36:46.660
This is their first introduction to Ben McAdams since he left office in 2020.
00:36:46.740 --> 00:36:47.900
That was six years ago.
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:51.060
And it's the first time they're meeting Riley Owen.
00:36:51.160 --> 00:36:52.820
This is a really esoteric question.
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>> Yeah, first and foremost,
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I did think they got his data off.
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And what they decided to do, they are independent.
00:37:02.040 --> 00:37:05.940
I fully support the independence of the fact that's one of the core functions of that,
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.620
so that they can make decisions that might be politically unpopular,
00:37:09.140 --> 00:37:11.640
that might be a difficult time to find before election,
00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:12.040
perhaps,
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to cool down the economy.
00:37:14.720 --> 00:37:17.500
What can I do with commerce when I just really can't make decisions?
00:37:18.020 --> 00:37:20.080
While you can pass and fight for legislation,
00:37:20.460 --> 00:37:21.240
that helps.
00:37:21.830 --> 00:37:25.460
That Americans who are struggling at breaks may go higher if they drop how likely they
00:37:25.580 --> 00:37:28.300
are going to be able to hold their word that you probably can put food on the table.
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:30.420
I was raised by an accountant.
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:34.340
Growing up, I was allowed to go through a garage towards my dad and what has looked through
00:37:34.340 --> 00:37:37.340
the full nurse poop box that he had clipped from the Saturday paper to leave a fresh
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:38.020
and happy kid.
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:38.880
But as an adult,
00:37:39.130 --> 00:37:39.560
I can't.
00:37:40.060 --> 00:37:42.280
I'm in a grieve for a lot and I appreciate it.
00:37:42.620 --> 00:37:47.020
And I think one of the things that Congress needs to do is to get our spending under control.
00:38:02.780 --> 00:38:03.840
That's not going to happen.
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.940
This is an opportunity for them to kind of connect with the audience and talk about,
00:38:24.670 --> 00:38:27.460
you know, how tariffs are one of the things driving up prices.
00:38:28.500 --> 00:38:31.420
We don't ever see the global federal relationships with the United States.
00:38:32.580 --> 00:38:33.780
And so, on my approaches,
00:38:34.200 --> 00:38:37.440
I would now like to give happiness and care of asking a few questions.
00:38:38.340 --> 00:38:40.340
Is it actually helping American workers get a point?
00:38:41.100 --> 00:38:43.120
Is it helping investment come to American businesses?
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I hope they wish to be like the Interest, just to make foreign goods more expensive.
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:49.620
I think terrorists may have a time and a place,
00:38:50.300 --> 00:38:52.900
but it's helping America be more competitive on the global stage.
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of state.
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Tariffs are most often paid by the importance of not just class-conned individuals and businesses,
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like UN and the world's military.
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And unfortunately,
00:39:03.620 --> 00:39:06.860
reality is that a global menstrual change to bring the manufacturing
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drops for the US again to eliminate some critical dependencies on floors of life.
00:39:12.040 --> 00:39:13.200
Those short term effects.
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And I don't think that is tactical tailored tariffs.
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:18.660
We can see some industries that are not very practical.
00:39:18.660 --> 00:39:19.580
Tactical tailored tariffs.
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I think they are not a lot of legislation.
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very illiterative.
00:39:24.940 --> 00:39:27.540
John Trey at the same time is impolitan as a terrorist.
00:39:29.640 --> 00:39:31.440
Mr. Gabb, do you have any reference to terrorists?
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Is there anything that you disagree with?
00:39:36.180 --> 00:39:38.060
Yeah, I think I was agreeing.
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I think terrorists-- what we see as haptazard terrorists
00:39:41.140 --> 00:39:44.080
have not been driving any really policy built.
00:39:44.200 --> 00:39:46.220
It seems that they've been eager to inventing streetland
00:39:46.530 --> 00:39:49.460
and not focused on shooting out the two sides of the EU.
00:39:49.500 --> 00:39:51.700
Is anybody going to talk about the fact that they're illegal?
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:53.740
The ones that President Trump put in place?
00:39:54.100 --> 00:39:57.060
-I'm sure it's ensuring the supply chain critical services
00:39:57.200 --> 00:39:58.420
that we need to bring into the U.S.
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That is not going to happen.
00:40:00.560 --> 00:40:06.380
And now, this is not going to be as complicated
00:40:06.700 --> 00:40:07.460
as you'd like to make it.
00:40:08.100 --> 00:40:09.580
-Sammy Soso-Soe says,
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"Oan is too polished."
00:40:11.660 --> 00:40:12.780
I'm actually impressed with him.
00:40:12.820 --> 00:40:14.780
This is my first opportunity to really hear him speak.
00:40:15.040 --> 00:40:15.840
-Congress has tools.
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We can reign in the president and we can override the cameras.
00:40:19.680 --> 00:40:24.620
So part of my concern is that we have a Congress that has not exercised independence,
00:40:25.120 --> 00:40:26.940
not done their constitutional duty,
00:40:27.520 --> 00:40:28.440
but reign in its president.
00:40:28.620 --> 00:40:31.360
And so we can talk a lot about the president.
00:40:31.380 --> 00:40:35.120
This would be a perfect time for a follow-up question about ways to reign in the president.
00:40:36.410 --> 00:40:38.760
Is it going to happen? I have absolutely no faith.
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It's going to happen. Let's turn to professional intelligence.
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See?
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To be a president,
00:40:44.100 --> 00:40:45.660
so not with most tech leaders.
00:40:45.780 --> 00:40:47.960
We're jumping all over the place. This is a good question,
00:40:48.160 --> 00:40:48.580
but still.
00:41:15.780 --> 00:41:20.740
And the federal government and its administration is not taking seriously,
00:41:20.940 --> 00:41:22.060
and Congress has
00:41:22.140 --> 00:41:22.940
not done its job.
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:24.680
One side of you, what else is,
00:41:25.080 --> 00:41:29.660
we have a 100% certainty that AI will transform and disrupt
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:30.280
our economy.
00:41:30.600 --> 00:41:31.840
And it is unbillies.
00:41:32.040 --> 00:41:35.560
Maybe we will find cures to diseases and cure expert cancer.
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:39.700
But I think there is a certainty and incredible destruction,
00:41:39.940 --> 00:41:41.060
and this is a time where we need
00:41:41.060 --> 00:41:41.540
to decide,
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:43.460
this is the right choice, it will be made.
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:46.720
Who's going to benefit from this disorder of technology?
00:41:47.200 --> 00:41:48.880
Cat-brows and billionaires?
00:41:49.540 --> 00:41:52.800
Are we going to make sure that the benefits accrue to the American people?
00:41:53.250 --> 00:41:54.840
The standard of living is better.
00:41:55.160 --> 00:41:56.060
Health is better.
00:41:56.370 --> 00:41:57.860
The conditions are better.
00:41:58.220 --> 00:42:01.300
That is a choice that we need our betterers to make.
00:42:01.600 --> 00:42:05.440
But the only way to make a choice is in the same number of last two years is a choice.
00:42:07.240 --> 00:42:08.280
Since you're on this Congress,
00:42:08.540 --> 00:42:09.460
not both you're on.
00:42:09.590 --> 00:42:12.580
Where do you stand in the risk of benefits that countries do have?
00:42:13.580 --> 00:42:15.140
I don't think we're talking about this enough.
00:42:15.420 --> 00:42:19.320
And I think this is the same level of issue that will have the greatest impact on Americans.
00:42:19.640 --> 00:42:21.440
That was a good answer by McAdams.
00:42:21.620 --> 00:42:22.800
But we restructure our own culture.
00:42:22.820 --> 00:42:23.340
It was solid.
00:42:23.720 --> 00:42:29.780
It is critical that we get this right and that we accomplish that knowledge in a way that doesn't leave large portions of our society behind.
00:42:30.520 --> 00:42:32.580
I think I want another one response about you,
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:33.960
which is the fact that it's people.
00:42:34.660 --> 00:42:37.560
And I know that AI is developing a rapid transition.
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.640
There's a lot of things that Congress and government should be intervening in.
00:42:41.100 --> 00:42:42.040
For example,
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:45.820
creating a lot of press and reputation of you and your kids without your consent.
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:48.620
But I think your data is solid. It's a big fact.
00:42:48.800 --> 00:42:50.400
To train these models on you,
00:42:50.560 --> 00:42:51.000
their behaviors,
00:42:51.180 --> 00:42:52.620
your personalities without you knowing.
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:56.600
My approach is that we're using AI for more lawful purposes,
00:42:57.060 --> 00:42:59.740
like what that's a large and with facilities you're not very useful.
00:43:00.300 --> 00:43:01.700
There should be more regulation.
00:43:02.160 --> 00:43:03.360
But we should write you the risk,
00:43:03.780 --> 00:43:04.380
not the evasion.
00:43:04.380 --> 00:43:09.280
But my concern is that Big Tech has to have power so it is buying off our politicians.
00:43:09.980 --> 00:43:10.960
Like we say to Big Tech,
00:43:11.120 --> 00:43:14.180
the ask for 1.1 million dollars, but I'm going to pay the other politicians
00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:15.680
to passing them not to religion.
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:21.440
That's concerning to me and I want to be able to get out of politics and I fly across Citizens United.
00:43:21.820 --> 00:43:22.220
That's great.
00:43:23.300 --> 00:43:24.820
Thank you for watching the time on that.
00:43:26.220 --> 00:43:29.640
That was a random slap at Citizens United there.
00:43:30.380 --> 00:43:32.460
and what is forming the main role here at both states.
00:43:33.720 --> 00:43:34.880
And this is a really big tension,
00:43:35.060 --> 00:43:35.980
especially as a conservative,
00:43:36.150 --> 00:43:37.280
we talk about what they've done,
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:39.700
but they haven't had everything to do
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:40.440
with national security,
00:43:40.860 --> 00:43:43.320
with our natural health as a autonomy.
00:43:44.060 --> 00:43:45.140
We don't understand the balance,
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:46.580
but we need to get this right,
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:48.680
and don't really care to the world if all behind.
00:43:49.340 --> 00:43:50.680
And I'm just like China,
00:43:51.220 --> 00:43:52.540
who don't believe in the elections,
00:43:52.940 --> 00:43:54.200
and no more, it's in the same way.
00:43:54.600 --> 00:43:55.980
The government is doing this creation,
00:43:56.120 --> 00:43:57.560
we're just trying to have environmental
00:43:57.980 --> 00:43:59.040
and labor protections.
00:44:00.040 --> 00:44:01.580
They did a lot of business in the marketplace.
00:44:30.620 --> 00:44:32.020
[Multip
00:44:32.040 --> 00:44:32.800
The two are there.
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:53.020
That's exactly the problem. You can't do it on a 50-state basis.
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:03.020
problem is Congress has not shown any ability to do this sort of thing.
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:28.380
Expect Owen to try and hit McAdams about his ties to data centers because he did do some
00:45:28.380 --> 00:45:32.420
thing for a data center that was constructed down south. I wonder why I'm not,
00:45:32.600 --> 00:45:33.560
oh, that's
00:45:33.600 --> 00:45:33.960
not me.
00:45:34.160 --> 00:45:34.640
That's them.
00:45:35.660 --> 00:45:38.780
That is their audio that just cut out. I don't know what just happened.
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:40.080
We just lost the feed there.
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:44.240
That is not me.
00:45:44.660 --> 00:45:46.640
Holy wow. We just lost the entire thing.
00:45:53.620 --> 00:45:55.540
just cut out. I do not know why it did.
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:01.480
Yeah, it's gone.
00:46:03.620 --> 00:46:04.060
Wow.
00:46:04.520 --> 00:46:05.940
I do not know why that just
00:46:06.020 --> 00:46:07.360
cut out because that is,
00:46:07.600 --> 00:46:09.240
that is not me.
00:46:13.240 --> 00:46:14.740
We there we go.
00:46:15.540 --> 00:46:16.260
They brought it back on.
00:46:16.460 --> 00:46:16.920
That was not me.
00:46:26.660 --> 00:46:29.260
Chris Junja said, Skynet the my thought exactly.
00:46:29.680 --> 00:46:31.240
And I did it because it would be impossible
00:46:31.580 --> 00:46:34.340
that water used to have a desert.
00:46:35.100 --> 00:46:36.420
And because we had two hundred million
00:46:36.520 --> 00:46:37.500
dollar tides in the center,
00:46:37.790 --> 00:46:38.680
there was power to them.
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:40.280
And I had the chance to stop it.
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:41.700
And we did stop it.
00:46:42.060 --> 00:46:44.360
So as this technology for structure has been built up,
00:46:44.700 --> 00:46:46.680
we need to make sure we stand alive,
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:49.200
but minimize the reliance of fossil fuels.
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:50.880
When I was actually in renewable energy,
00:46:51.240 --> 00:46:53.900
desert used water in any place in the life of watershed.
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:57.360
And we found a responsible way to expand it responsibly.
00:46:59.720 --> 00:47:00.280
Here we go again.
00:47:01.220 --> 00:47:07.680
They are having some technical difficulties right now with their feed. There
00:47:07.720 --> 00:47:07.940
it is.
00:47:23.680 --> 00:47:25.980
Are we sure that Riley Owen is a Republican?
00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:28.320
That is downright progressive.
00:47:49.340 --> 00:47:54.280
This is very populist from Riley.
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:56.200
I am surprised.
00:48:05.180 --> 00:48:08.840
Mother Trucker on TikTok says his red tie isn't solid.
00:48:09.040 --> 00:48:09.440
Good point.
00:48:09.940 --> 00:48:10.620
Very good point.
00:48:11.180 --> 00:48:12.640
(indistinct)
00:48:26.600 --> 00:48:27.260
Good question.
00:48:27.940 --> 00:48:28.520
Good question.
00:48:32.059 --> 00:48:38.320
Are we gonna get a good answer out of it? I don't know but that's a good question and that flowed from the data center. That was good.
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:38.900
>> No.
00:48:39.300 --> 00:48:42.120
And there's no right now. God knows it may be seeing the same thing.
00:48:42.500 --> 00:48:43.960
There's so much more that we need to do.
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We recently just got out of a great new law that came to effect with Great Selim in his race.
00:48:49.340 --> 00:48:54.380
We probably saw other suggestions for how we can do more of the Great Selim in practical recently.
00:48:55.020 --> 00:49:00.040
I believe that we make the best of policy by encountering the people who know these issues best.
00:49:00.780 --> 00:49:05.640
As calm as many people do our best on as much as we can about those sort of issues but we can't be an expert and I don't think.
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:09.580
And so my first effort would be to allow the science system researchers who have been
00:49:09.720 --> 00:49:11.000
dealing with this for decades,
00:49:11.860 --> 00:49:14.480
including several examples and things that she pointed
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to of how we can do better.
00:49:16.420 --> 00:49:17.660
But among the infrastructure investments,
00:49:18.080 --> 00:49:21.720
the ease of all the iron and grain celling from areas like the Newfoundland Basin,
00:49:22.340 --> 00:49:26.940
the moving long-intentioned species like the 1990s to restore water to the lake,
00:49:27.500 --> 00:49:30.380
and created water markets not regulated,
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:31.820
forced by banks,
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:48.200
This is really surprising coming from a republic public and he had some good prep
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:54.180
And that's not me saying that yeah, I think he's being disingenuous. I'm just sort of surprised by his answers
00:49:54.200 --> 00:49:56.240
>> And to the future of Utah,
00:49:56.820 --> 00:49:57.640
and the air we breathe,
00:49:58.160 --> 00:49:59.180
I'd like to say a couple of words.
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>> Thank you.
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>> And we understand it is already costing us.
00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:04.540
We have CII here,
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:06.280
people who are moving,
00:50:06.500 --> 00:50:07.440
people who are moving,
00:50:07.700 --> 00:50:09.100
that place they're not coming here.
00:50:10.220 --> 00:50:12.380
At the same time, we need to get the tax incentives
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:13.800
to bring in the incentives.
00:50:14.260 --> 00:50:16.040
I oppose the shuttle status here because,
00:50:16.420 --> 00:50:17.560
but if we want to save the land,
00:50:17.940 --> 00:50:20.080
we have to do all the mixed-service health measures.
00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:22.800
We have to step up. We have to make hard choices.
00:50:23.200 --> 00:50:26.360
We have to stop those things that have been impacted negatively,
00:50:26.660 --> 00:50:28.900
we have to make hard choices to solve them.
00:50:31.640 --> 00:50:33.220
And we'll be on the other side,
00:50:33.360 --> 00:50:35.300
so if I don't like to help you to do so,
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:39.280
I think we can move the game along to the next.
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:40.000
Because ultimately,
00:50:40.300 --> 00:50:40.800
this is a choice.
00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:43.600
And it's a choice that we have to make conscious of.
00:50:43.600 --> 00:50:46.160
And it's a choice that the like is solvable.
00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:46.980
It just makes,
00:50:47.340 --> 00:50:49.220
it requires you to make a commitment
00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:50.740
and can make some hard choices,
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:53.140
This is not a flag putting on our mothers.
00:50:53.780 --> 00:50:57.680
We can safely say that we have to ensure a bright future for the people we talk to.
00:50:59.380 --> 00:51:01.740
I have to give that answer to Owen.
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:04.400
He was much more specific in what he wanted to do.
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:06.940
I have a great idea about that.
00:51:07.220 --> 00:51:07.960
Good follow-up.
00:51:08.060 --> 00:51:08.680
Good follow-up.
00:51:08.860 --> 00:51:11.780
I'm going to talk about these stories we did regarding the first revival.
00:51:12.200 --> 00:51:12.860
I'm a lawyer,
00:51:13.040 --> 00:51:13.280
a teacher,
00:51:13.520 --> 00:51:14.460
and I'm going to talk about it.
00:51:14.580 --> 00:51:19.240
When we're seeing this model in Utah and we've discussed it a lot, but Todd, I heard
00:51:21.640 --> 00:51:24.440
I think the first one is the one that was so up
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:53.660
But I don't know, does have a role in stepping up and helping to apply to the wider ones
00:51:54.220 --> 00:51:56.620
and wider conservation to take care of the wider world to the light.
00:51:57.060 --> 00:51:58.620
And the nature of this population,
00:51:59.740 --> 00:52:01.000
credit the population,
00:52:01.740 --> 00:52:04.020
it doesn't sell up because it has just got consequences,
00:52:04.340 --> 00:52:06.420
but we know it happened as we do, really.
00:52:07.160 --> 00:52:08.880
We share our own hundred-day decline, but they don't rule.
00:52:10.220 --> 00:52:10.940
Very similar,
00:52:11.420 --> 00:52:12.800
some of those who follow us,
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:13.760
but as I've been telling you,
00:52:13.940 --> 00:52:15.060
almost across the district,
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:36.760
Alex Wood on YouTube says,
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:40.520
"Owen seems surprisingly progressive for the GOP candidates so far."
00:52:40.680 --> 00:52:41.360
I agree with that.
00:52:42.040 --> 00:52:44.860
I am really surprised by his answers.
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:49.200
We're trying to work on getting an interview for my podcast that I'll bring to you when
00:52:49.260 --> 00:52:50.740
we're trying to get that set up.
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:56.100
And I'm glad we waited until after this debate because I've got questions now.
00:53:00.100 --> 00:53:00.580
[ Inaudible ]
00:53:06.100 --> 00:53:06.840
>> Name drop.
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:08.880
[ Inaudible ]
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:18.560
We're getting close to the halfway point.
00:53:18.640 --> 00:53:20.500
We still have not had a question from a student.
00:53:21.040 --> 00:53:23.140
That probably happens right after the halfway point.
00:53:35.759 --> 00:53:36.960
[Side note]
00:53:43.839 --> 00:53:45.760
Okay, that's a pretty stock answer.
00:53:46.080 --> 00:53:46.780
[Side note]
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Energy and dependence.
00:53:48.470 --> 00:53:48.620
[Side note]
00:53:52.160 --> 00:53:55.740
I want to be pursuing every avenue possible.
00:53:56.350 --> 00:54:00.320
Not needlessly shutting down different outlets and adding in stores to lower energy prices
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:01.500
for every new time.
00:54:02.380 --> 00:54:06.140
I don't want to make this a policy of the federal government to raise the price of fossil fuels.
00:54:06.790 --> 00:54:09.860
Do I want to move on with the inter-nobles and more sustainable forms?
00:54:10.060 --> 00:54:10.340
Absolutely.
00:54:11.140 --> 00:54:11.620
I want to be -
00:54:11.620 --> 00:54:13.480
>> Chris Jones asked if they're pre-chosen students.
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:13.880
Yes,
00:54:14.120 --> 00:54:17.940
the students are chosen and they have to submit what their question is going to be.
00:54:17.940 --> 00:54:19.900
>> -- the regular reactors and be clear.
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:21.740
They're coming right here in new time.
00:54:21.740 --> 00:54:23.120
that's made for each choice.
00:54:23.700 --> 00:54:25.240
I'm going to take this only about reproduction,
00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:26.860
we talk about things like data centers,
00:54:27.180 --> 00:54:28.380
screening our brains and resources,
00:54:29.100 --> 00:54:30.680
and we'll figure out this when we close the puzzle,
00:54:31.160 --> 00:54:32.140
which means it's all interconnected.
00:54:33.100 --> 00:54:34.300
And we get it around and about.
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:36.200
With the outweighed innovation course
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:38.480
on Utah banning individuals are reflected.
00:54:39.460 --> 00:54:40.100
Mr. McGillum,
00:54:40.260 --> 00:54:40.520
sit down.
00:54:40.620 --> 00:54:41.760
I'm sure you'll get it together.
00:54:41.900 --> 00:54:42.560
We'll get it in the talk.
00:54:42.600 --> 00:54:44.600
And we'll come back to you on the,
00:54:45.160 --> 00:54:46.000
I mean, the core question.
00:54:46.380 --> 00:54:46.540
Again,
00:54:48.240 --> 00:54:48.600
again,
00:54:49.340 --> 00:54:50.940
the wonderful complicators
00:54:50.940 --> 00:54:55.700
The fossil fuels are already more expensive than some of the unique federal government
00:54:55.960 --> 00:55:00.360
because they're trying to stop turning the bench in the context they're committed.
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:04.400
They are being built over just to get the federal government to get out of the way.
00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:06.040
But that is not what we're seeing.
00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:08.320
When I was in Congress I ran legislation aside.
00:55:08.620 --> 00:55:08.880
And look,
00:55:09.040 --> 00:55:13.580
I don't even need to raise the prices of fossil fuels when you stop subsidizing them.
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:20.319
When I was in Congress I ran legislation to increase the least extraction rates from
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:22.400
gas extraction of the gas.
00:55:22.940 --> 00:55:23.460
That,
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:26.620
least rate had not been updated since the 1930s.
00:55:27.090 --> 00:55:29.060
And so as the additional risk came,
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:32.400
a current rate should be updated to least the state of Utah's
00:55:32.720 --> 00:55:33.220
least rate.
00:55:33.670 --> 00:55:38.840
And let's now give them a subsidy to be pulling the gas out of the
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:41.200
homes. And that's about two energy,
00:55:41.640 --> 00:55:43.500
like a third-party and a fourth-party project.
00:55:43.530 --> 00:55:49.320
And in the entire geothermal cell, these projects came forward and third-party
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:53.800
I think the federal government has a role in translation,
00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:55.220
and we just sort of make more
00:55:55.300 --> 00:55:59.620
energies a bug in it too, and we will add either a bug in it, but it hasn't got anything
00:55:59.700 --> 00:56:00.200
to do with it.
00:56:00.460 --> 00:56:00.980
That's just the thing I did.
00:56:01.100 --> 00:56:02.720
So Mr. Adams,
00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:03.240
I,
00:56:03.560 --> 00:56:05.000
who worked this long on a term,
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:06.900
would claim that the plan that we
00:56:06.940 --> 00:56:09.720
had a couple weeks ago is impressive,
00:56:10.520 --> 00:56:12.620
and you've talked to the industry, traps, and
00:56:12.640 --> 00:56:15.260
investment in interest in nuclear energy technologies.
00:56:16.720 --> 00:56:18.020
Do you believe that you can reach?
00:56:18.160 --> 00:56:19.760
I'm wondering where she's going with this.
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:22.640
Okay,
00:56:23.240 --> 00:56:23.800
that's a good question.
00:56:24.590 --> 00:56:25.440
It's a good follow-up.
00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:30.940
use it for it.
00:56:32.200 --> 00:56:35.220
But what we already know, I think we have the solutions that can work for Utah,
00:56:35.460 --> 00:56:35.760
it's so
00:56:35.820 --> 00:56:35.980
on.
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:36.940
It's wind,
00:56:37.520 --> 00:56:40.000
it's geothermal, these projects work in pencil.
00:56:40.460 --> 00:56:41.380
And the federal government
00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:44.160
and state government will support these projects.
00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:47.320
We can deploy massive energy generation and
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:50.000
energy storage right here in Utah. So I think,
00:56:50.380 --> 00:56:52.420
I'd like to see the market compete on
00:56:52.740 --> 00:56:54.720
nuclear and sea. That's a solution that's viable.
00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:56.940
I'm not convinced that it's viable.
00:57:01.340 --> 00:57:02.740
[ Inaudible ]
00:57:19.340 --> 00:57:23.320
Owen has been impressive with his answers, but the problem for me is he's not really
00:57:23.580 --> 00:57:25.920
drawing a difference.
00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:29.620
He's not really drawing a line between himself and McAdams.
00:57:29.640 --> 00:57:31.040
We're not really seeing a lot of difference.
00:57:31.720 --> 00:57:34.780
I mean, he's talked about free market stuff, about deregulation,
00:57:35.060 --> 00:57:41.140
but there's a lot of
00:57:41.220 --> 00:57:42.800
agreeing on this stage tonight.
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:51.640
It's not good for a candidate like Owen who's expected to have a hard time winning this.
00:57:53.340 --> 00:57:55.940
He's got to differentiate himself and I've really seen that happen.
00:57:56.920 --> 00:57:59.140
We now reach the halfway point of the debate.
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:02.900
You took candidates in the race to represent Utah's first Correction District.
00:58:03.580 --> 00:58:05.180
You're just joining us on high-bottom.
00:58:05.560 --> 00:58:08.560
We're more here in this presentation of the Utah Debate Commission.
00:58:09.540 --> 00:58:13.640
We're coming to you from the Silent City campus of Salt Lake Community College in Salt Lake City.
00:58:14.460 --> 00:58:15.500
Let's get back to the questions,
00:58:15.900 --> 00:58:16.740
and I'll go to you first.
00:58:16.940 --> 00:58:18.260
No student question.
00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:19.520
I am really surprised.
00:58:20.900 --> 00:58:22.660
I am really surprised we haven't had that yet.
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:24.940
It has a stellar fiscal record.
00:58:25.560 --> 00:58:26.540
We have a balanced budget,
00:58:27.430 --> 00:58:30.460
third-party bond rating from all major credit agencies,
00:58:31.380 --> 00:58:32.600
budget reserve accounts,
00:58:33.100 --> 00:58:34.000
a line-on veto,
00:58:35.240 --> 00:58:36.900
and our country has none of these.
00:58:38.660 --> 00:58:41.820
The national debt now exceeds $42,000.
00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:47.600
That's approximately $286,000 for the tax payer in our country.
00:58:48.620 --> 00:58:50.559
And we thought it was not good
00:58:50.560 --> 00:58:57.480
Mae'r cyfnodd yn ddweud y cyfnodd yn cyfnodd yn y cyfnosedol
00:59:21.020 --> 00:59:23.800
But the 18 different intelligence agencies.
00:59:24.700 --> 00:59:25.060
It's a lot.
00:59:25.480 --> 00:59:28.120
I understand hundreds of billions of dollar-dollar intelligence right now.
00:59:28.660 --> 00:59:29.820
I think we can streamline that.
00:59:30.220 --> 00:59:31.180
We can eliminate waste,
00:59:31.380 --> 00:59:31.880
fraud, and abuse,
00:59:32.040 --> 00:59:33.040
even at legal purposes,
00:59:33.720 --> 00:59:34.900
and go and go and national
00:59:34.980 --> 00:59:35.720
security missions.
00:59:36.740 --> 00:59:38.020
I believe that that's a violation,
00:59:38.300 --> 00:59:39.480
but cutting 18 different...
00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:41.780
Intelligence is waste, fraud, and abuse?
00:59:42.180 --> 00:59:43.020
That's not good.
00:59:43.860 --> 00:59:44.540
I don't.
00:59:44.820 --> 00:59:45.140
I don't.
00:59:46.080 --> 00:59:48.920
I don't know about you, but I mean, I understand what he's saying, but I don't think that's
00:59:48.920 --> 00:59:49.400
a good answer.
00:59:59.880 --> 01:00:02.380
We are never going to get a balanced budget amendment.
01:00:02.560 --> 01:00:06.460
That's not going to happen and that would absolutely destroy the economy.
01:00:06.620 --> 01:00:08.760
That has been a pipe dream from conservatives for years.
01:00:09.260 --> 01:00:10.060
It's not going to happen.
01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:11.600
not to cut services
01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:40.800
That's I'm
01:00:42.600 --> 01:00:45.280
Okay Bravo to the moderator for that
01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:50.020
This is a tough question
01:00:57.500 --> 01:00:59.680
Yeah, that was a bad answer
01:00:59.720 --> 01:01:00.740
>> And that should,
01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:02.960
or we're going to increase the unit support,
01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:04.060
even if it's politically
01:01:04.340 --> 01:01:04.640
unpopular.
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:08.540
And I support that with the budget as well.
01:01:08.720 --> 01:01:09.560
And now with the mayor,
01:01:10.160 --> 01:01:12.340
you know, I had to make hard decisions to the worker and the
01:01:12.460 --> 01:01:14.520
staff, I think that that don't go to the workers and the businessmen as too.
01:01:14.860 --> 01:01:16.000
I find it sad though,
01:01:16.380 --> 01:01:21.240
when we talk about balancing budget, the first pass we go is trying to balance
01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:25.920
out the balance of hard working people and the national and private and private system
01:01:26.100 --> 01:01:27.200
people who are counting those.
01:01:27.720 --> 01:01:30.060
of social security is so, you know,
01:01:30.240 --> 01:01:31.400
they've been be able to build,
01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:33.500
they've put a factor
01:01:33.680 --> 01:01:38.060
of 180,000 mutuals on the charging board to do almost a one for one,
01:01:38.580 --> 01:01:38.940
they're cutting
01:01:39.040 --> 01:01:43.260
swap and cutting back 80,000 health benefits and put one for one.
01:01:43.420 --> 01:01:45.260
This is a better answer than Owens.
01:01:46.100 --> 01:01:48.160
He's talking about kitchen table issues,
01:01:48.940 --> 01:01:49.280
cutting health
01:01:49.380 --> 01:01:49.660
care.
01:01:53.819 --> 01:01:56.020
That was a whiff for Owens.
01:02:01.780 --> 01:02:03.180
This is good debate prep here.
01:02:03.180 --> 01:02:05.040
He was a good debate prep.
01:02:05.640 --> 01:02:09.600
He's able to switch to a shift to a personal anecdote.
01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:10.980
This is a good answer here.
01:02:12.040 --> 01:02:13.340
That was a whiff for Owen.
01:02:16.020 --> 01:02:19.080
We can say social security is not impossible.
01:02:19.580 --> 01:02:20.880
I described the CAP concept.
01:02:21.420 --> 01:02:24.440
They would stabilize social security through 2021.
01:02:25.260 --> 01:02:27.440
These are the decisions that are received at the time by people.
01:02:28.220 --> 01:02:28.440
Okay,
01:02:28.660 --> 01:02:30.020
I'm sorry. We're talking about the other.
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:34.520
Yeah, I mean, if they were to let recent changes actually date back to that meeting staff discussion.
01:02:34.700 --> 01:02:38.720
Oh, he has to do this because nobody knows what the hell he's talking about in his answer earlier.
01:02:38.980 --> 01:02:41.300
In cops that you were volunteering in your community,
01:02:41.820 --> 01:02:43.680
the department should get the help that you need.
01:02:49.900 --> 01:02:52.340
He's talking about work requirements.
01:02:53.460 --> 01:02:56.780
He's talking about the work requirements, which are really going to kick in after the
01:02:56.840 --> 01:02:57.780
mid-term elections.
01:03:07.780 --> 01:03:12.460
But the thing he's not mentioning about the tax cuts is they overwhelmingly went to the
01:03:12.340 --> 01:03:14.900
top of the top of the income scale,
01:03:15.160 --> 01:03:16.160
the wealth, the wealthiest.
01:03:18.700 --> 01:03:22.160
Just like the tax cuts of legislature has passed over the past four or five years,
01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:23.360
80%
01:03:23.380 --> 01:03:24.800
of that goes to the people at the top.
01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:33.920
Good rebuttal,
01:03:34.500 --> 01:03:36.220
good rebuttal by a McAdams here.
01:03:38.460 --> 01:03:41.460
He couldn't let Owen get away with talking about how,
01:03:41.660 --> 01:03:44.140
you know, everybody got a tax cut.
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:50.840
If I were the moderator here,
01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:52.980
I would keep prosecuting this line.
01:03:53.080 --> 01:03:54.820
I'd let them get after each other a little bit.
01:03:55.480 --> 01:03:56.760
McAdams is fired up here.
01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:04.500
There you go.
01:04:04.660 --> 01:04:05.100
There you go.
01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:16.100
Good on the moderator to let this go
01:04:30.240 --> 01:04:31.440
Let this go
01:04:49.420 --> 01:04:51.660
Dank on YouTube says this got good all of a sudden.
01:04:51.820 --> 01:04:53.940
That's what I'm talking about. These things are so boring
01:04:54.600 --> 01:04:56.160
They finally are getting after each other
01:04:58.500 --> 01:05:01.120
This is where they're drawing a contrast
01:05:07.520 --> 01:05:10.080
Yeah, keep prosecuting keep prosecuting this line of questioning
01:05:12.620 --> 01:05:17.699
If he's smart he'll come back and he'll get after Owen on entitlement cuts
01:05:17.700 --> 01:05:43.980
>> We'll apply it as a couple bucks
01:05:47.700 --> 01:05:48.700
I'll be fresh for a minute,
01:05:48.980 --> 01:05:49.260
Alfa.
01:05:49.700 --> 01:05:57.420
But what would you do with your proposal to take this program that is such an important safety in the first few years?
01:05:58.100 --> 01:06:01.540
I talked to young people who say, "Look, I just don't care about social security,
01:06:01.700 --> 01:06:03.380
that it's not going to be the one I need it."
01:06:03.700 --> 01:06:04.260
That is wrong.
01:06:04.540 --> 01:06:06.660
Because we know from history what the option is.
01:06:07.220 --> 01:06:07.600
That is,
01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:08.640
if you're lucky enough,
01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:09.780
you'll never know what the case is.
01:06:10.060 --> 01:06:10.340
Otherwise,
01:06:10.540 --> 01:06:11.780
you're living in a shelter,
01:06:12.200 --> 01:06:13.100
you're living on the street,
01:06:13.700 --> 01:06:21.100
I believe Social Security is the core social safety net program that move this country forward and is world-protecting.
01:06:21.580 --> 01:06:26.980
And I also would also like it's not impossible to say that there are proposals to do that.
01:06:26.980 --> 01:06:27.540
So right now,
01:06:28.080 --> 01:06:34.040
by everybody who sees in our paycheck that they are a new social security production from the paycheck,
01:06:34.520 --> 01:06:40.760
that production basis out from anyone who income passes $184,000.
01:06:41.700 --> 01:06:42.980
and we do not have to pay them.
01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:45.240
This topic has happened really in post,
01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:50.960
a social security paycheck at income of about $350,000.
01:06:51.580 --> 01:06:53.540
And this proposal was supported by President Biden
01:06:53.700 --> 01:06:54.260
that I would do,
01:06:54.660 --> 01:06:55.500
and would sustain the life
01:06:55.600 --> 01:06:56.860
of Social Security Trust Fund,
01:06:57.220 --> 01:06:57.960
30 in 2021.
01:06:58.700 --> 01:07:00.000
This is an easy solution.
01:07:00.140 --> 01:07:01.640
We just have to encourage to do it,
01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:03.320
and stand out for people to protect
01:07:03.460 --> 01:07:05.620
the social safety program that's been important
01:07:06.020 --> 01:07:08.020
to civilian Americans for almost a hundred years.
01:07:08.660 --> 01:07:12.740
But Mr. Ruhman proposed to maintain the security program
01:07:13.060 --> 01:07:14.920
to work out what kind of fashion and data.
01:07:15.740 --> 01:07:19.180
I don't want these taxes like Ben proposed to save social security.
01:07:19.640 --> 01:07:20.260
It's the hardest thing.
01:07:20.420 --> 01:07:21.560
If it's the different things you can do,
01:07:21.580 --> 01:07:22.520
you can raise your retirement.
01:07:23.180 --> 01:07:24.920
You can raise taxes or you can reduce profits.
01:07:25.820 --> 01:07:26.920
I don't want to do anything about that.
01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:28.960
But I want to be very clear on how social security's funded.
01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:31.100
And you're paid 6.2%.
01:07:31.260 --> 01:07:32.440
You pay that as an employee.
01:07:33.020 --> 01:07:35.120
And your employer manages that 6.2%.
01:07:35.700 --> 01:07:38.000
And that pays 80% of the social security benefit.
01:07:38.180 --> 01:07:40.960
There's not extra 20% that we're talking about that might go bankrupt.
01:07:41.680 --> 01:07:45.680
So we're excused in our view that it needs to show the benefits that we're pursuing in time too.
01:07:46.540 --> 01:07:48.440
That's all good, Mr. Moon. You need to find it percent.
01:07:48.940 --> 01:07:50.440
If you don't think you got a preferred way,
01:07:50.700 --> 01:07:54.740
my proposal is to learn and invest social security in this type of market.
01:07:55.180 --> 01:07:56.300
We're both prior,
01:07:56.480 --> 01:07:56.640
yes,
01:07:57.000 --> 01:07:57.520
with the market.
01:07:57.520 --> 01:08:00.680
Okay, privatizing social security. I was wondering where he's going with that.
01:08:01.420 --> 01:08:02.960
There is no reason but at the time,
01:08:03.320 --> 01:08:03.740
they're small,
01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:04.760
with all the money we're gross,
01:08:04.980 --> 01:08:06.740
And I don't think we can use, challenge,
01:08:07.140 --> 01:08:09.180
and I don't think we can use the rules passes even more.
01:08:09.980 --> 01:08:12.320
Okay, we're going to turn one out to about a student.
01:08:12.660 --> 01:08:13.500
So, let's turn to the class.
01:08:13.700 --> 01:08:14.940
So, here's the student question.
01:08:15.180 --> 01:08:15.540
Here we are.
01:08:15.700 --> 01:08:16.520
Let me know.
01:08:19.060 --> 01:08:20.640
My question is about Pell Grants.
01:08:21.259 --> 01:08:24.720
Pell Grants have thousands of students in Utah's first district at Penn College.
01:08:25.460 --> 01:08:28.759
With the program facing a predictive funding for a fall,
01:08:29.020 --> 01:08:30.240
should colleagues increase spending,
01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:31.620
and demarcating current benefits,
01:08:32.299 --> 01:08:33.259
or should it do some real
01:08:33.319 --> 01:08:34.759
levels or eligibility?
01:08:35.259 --> 01:08:37.359
What is the absolute equal vote for?
01:08:38.400 --> 01:08:39.140
Everybody, first,
01:08:39.540 --> 01:08:41.040
and from Paul Brownson,
01:08:41.420 --> 01:08:41.859
Education Fund.
01:08:42.700 --> 01:08:44.620
Now, I think education is our future,
01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:46.580
and it has one of the first genes you can
01:08:46.660 --> 01:08:47.779
receive in our needs in the country.
01:08:48.440 --> 01:08:50.000
I can say in my time closest to that,
01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:51.279
and just out of college myself,
01:08:51.980 --> 01:08:52.460
it's not easy.
01:08:52.680 --> 01:08:53.799
And I have nine different scholarship
01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:55.120
students who can support myself.
01:08:55.880 --> 01:08:57.819
I think public life is a great way where students can get
01:08:57.920 --> 01:08:58.900
support by our own survival.
01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:03.279
that there are opportunities set to do more than three or four year degrees,
01:09:04.020 --> 01:09:07.140
especially with the AI changing the economy and changing the landscape,
01:09:07.720 --> 01:09:11.720
there are a lot of other ways where you can graduate and you can be prepared to enter society
01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:13.440
without having to go into debt,
01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:16.240
without having to have a government branch to get through school.
01:09:16.839 --> 01:09:19.160
But I think everyone who wants to pursue education should,
01:09:19.640 --> 01:09:22.299
and it's the key and the core of how to get into the right part of society,
01:09:22.759 --> 01:09:23.500
and I want to support that.
01:09:24.200 --> 01:09:24.779
Mr. Adams,
01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:26.400
when we talk to our agreement,
01:09:26.600 --> 01:09:27.639
I grew up in a house so far
01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:30.359
I'm even a alumni, we had a lot of financial insecurity.
01:09:31.220 --> 01:09:33.759
I like to come and commute to the University of Utah.
01:09:34.299 --> 01:09:36.359
I work two and three jobs at times,
01:09:36.540 --> 01:09:38.259
so after I paid for college,
01:09:38.740 --> 01:09:41.620
it's still not been possible for me to go to college.
01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:45.200
We're now for programs and staff that serve as student loans.
01:09:45.980 --> 01:09:48.220
I was so grateful for that open door
01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:50.660
that allowed me to pursue public education
01:09:51.220 --> 01:09:53.779
and to provide for my kids financial security
01:09:53.980 --> 01:09:55.120
that I didn't know the kid.
01:09:56.760 --> 01:10:00.920
I strongly support public because I never like to,
01:10:01.460 --> 01:10:04.480
it's not the entire challenge of the cost of education.
01:10:04.700 --> 01:10:06.240
We have to bring down the cost of college.
01:10:06.600 --> 01:10:07.780
We also think health and well-to-lifte,
01:10:07.940 --> 01:10:08.660
it's the college.
01:10:09.460 --> 01:10:12.580
I don't know that college is the only path
01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:13.700
that a student should consider.
01:10:14.120 --> 01:10:14.520
Those,
01:10:15.080 --> 01:10:15.240
perhaps,
01:10:15.440 --> 01:10:17.160
going and training is also important.
01:10:17.360 --> 01:10:18.640
So I support public,
01:10:18.660 --> 01:10:20.700
I look forward to other times of workforce training.
01:10:21.160 --> 01:10:22.880
And then again, bringing down the cost of college
01:10:23.100 --> 01:10:25.759
so that some should be able to go to college
01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:27.440
that achieves a state-of-the-art country,
01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:29.340
and that should be trusted to be held in other
01:10:29.420 --> 01:10:29.960
members of the country.
01:10:31.120 --> 01:10:31.640
Mr. McDonough,
01:10:31.820 --> 01:10:34.280
before we go on and talk about foreign policy,
01:10:34.530 --> 01:10:35.580
I want to talk to you just
01:10:35.640 --> 01:10:39.000
for a second or a little bit about Congress as an institution.
01:10:40.200 --> 01:10:44.840
Many American people feel that Congress is not solving problems,
01:10:45.420 --> 01:10:46.420
not preventing problems,
01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:47.900
not doing its part,
01:10:48.900 --> 01:10:51.740
filled with career politicians that don't account to the people.
01:10:52.940 --> 01:11:00.560
These you have that would help with food numbers and be not for people's business.
01:11:02.220 --> 01:11:04.940
Now again, these are solvable problems.
01:11:05.180 --> 01:11:07.940
Thomas has never been motivated in my lifetime.
01:11:10.080 --> 01:11:14.040
I think after the most internet group has a corruption at numbers
01:11:14.660 --> 01:11:16.160
and frustration with the um,
01:11:16.380 --> 01:11:19.700
it's a ability to actually rise to the challenges and to solve problems.
01:11:19.700 --> 01:11:22.380
And we had incredible challenges that we needed to address.
01:11:23.180 --> 01:11:27.260
And it costs a lot, but during our politicians
01:11:28.140 --> 01:11:30.160
would have or lose their election by heating
01:11:30.460 --> 01:11:32.840
the retouching and we now have a government
01:11:33.040 --> 01:11:34.460
that it can work across the aisle.
01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:35.840
It is to run-
01:11:35.860 --> 01:11:36.580
That's a good answer.
01:11:37.120 --> 01:11:40.280
But it's essentially the how would you take the temperature down
01:11:41.200 --> 01:11:43.060
with the question we started with earlier?
01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:45.180
And after America's constitution,
01:11:45.320 --> 01:11:48.200
it was further generated to make it even more vulnerable.
01:11:55.240 --> 01:11:57.380
I'm excited to see what Owen is going to say here.
01:11:57.500 --> 01:11:59.140
the legislature's reaction to this.
01:11:59.300 --> 01:12:01.160
They don't like the voter's ability
01:12:01.350 --> 01:12:02.940
to do their own right to the official.
01:12:03.340 --> 01:12:04.980
But what happens is you have a Congress
01:12:05.240 --> 01:12:06.480
that's responsive to voters,
01:12:07.060 --> 01:12:10.700
rather than to come up and influence this in power.
01:12:12.080 --> 01:12:12.540
Mr. O'Leary,
01:12:12.740 --> 01:12:13.720
let's hear your ideas
01:12:13.960 --> 01:12:14.980
from the reforming Congress.
01:12:15.160 --> 01:12:15.920
And if you do that,
01:12:16.260 --> 01:12:17.420
talk a lot of specifically
01:12:17.660 --> 01:12:18.100
to us, Jeremy,
01:12:18.280 --> 01:12:19.900
who's been sitting here for a while today.
01:12:20.680 --> 01:12:20.860
Sure.
01:12:21.800 --> 01:12:24.960
As the Congress has first with what was going on in Congress,
01:12:25.620 --> 01:12:27.160
there were a lot of things that I was saying.
01:12:27.300 --> 01:12:28.300
I think we need two elements,
01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:29.840
both in the House and in the Senate.
01:12:30.440 --> 01:12:33.300
I want to make it believable for the members that their staffers
01:12:33.580 --> 01:12:36.640
aim senior government officials to join the individual staffs,
01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:37.480
which can be done.
01:12:37.540 --> 01:12:39.540
Okay, that's a good answer, but this doesn't do anything about
01:12:39.680 --> 01:12:41.880
solving the problem of Congress not doing anything.
01:12:42.380 --> 01:12:44.700
It should be paid for in the traditional business model.
01:12:45.340 --> 01:12:48.740
We have a lot over a million dollars on the city's forces in the blind trust
01:12:48.920 --> 01:12:49.880
while you're serving the public.
01:12:50.360 --> 01:12:52.920
You should be making decisions on your personal financial fortune
01:12:53.050 --> 01:12:53.860
that you're trying to build.
01:12:54.940 --> 01:12:58.540
And we've also reported a lot of memories that the Congress had moved in the past year
01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:01.740
that had been away from their jobs for months and a time, and the public hasn't noticed
01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:02.480
their union life.
01:13:03.260 --> 01:13:03.700
That's why,
01:13:04.320 --> 01:13:06.240
as what many people like you are, I didn't take out our
01:13:06.260 --> 01:13:06.560
jobs.
01:13:06.960 --> 01:13:07.540
We'd be tired.
01:13:08.080 --> 01:13:08.860
We'd be unideasy.
01:13:09.380 --> 01:13:10.520
So, you need to know it's by the public,
01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:10.760
and
01:13:10.780 --> 01:13:13.900
if they're at the cost of the ego, for what a recent event is, they're not showing up.
01:13:14.270 --> 01:13:15.280
The public needs to know.
01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:16.360
In the last,
01:13:16.660 --> 01:13:17.180
but not least,
01:13:17.720 --> 01:13:19.120
a lot of our church services united,
01:13:19.640 --> 01:13:22.240
and tired of politicians being biased by corporate tax,
01:13:22.680 --> 01:13:23.120
and they have a long,
01:13:23.120 --> 01:13:25.360
the favoris to pay out when they get into office,
01:13:26.040 --> 01:13:27.060
or they're quiet and muscled,
01:13:27.170 --> 01:13:28.780
they actually expect their constituents
01:13:29.300 --> 01:13:30.400
to do exactly what they're done.
01:13:30.980 --> 01:13:32.460
People just remain doing their jobs.
01:13:33.750 --> 01:13:35.820
So as we've tried to make this local example,
01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:39.100
I think every time you should be concerned with an act we have,
01:13:39.420 --> 01:13:42.220
it does actually regardless of whatever your politics are.
01:13:42.620 --> 01:13:43.840
It doesn't frustrate me that,
01:13:44.360 --> 01:13:45.240
since it's, please be clear,
01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:47.760
this is a blue-leaning district right now,
01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:49.860
a fresh one that's made up the maps that we made in this,
01:13:50.300 --> 01:13:52.500
created for me of most red districts in America,
01:13:53.040 --> 01:13:53.920
in the northernmost blue,
01:13:54.320 --> 01:13:56.540
or trans-blue districts in America.
01:13:57.620 --> 01:13:59.260
That brings a green ground for communism.
01:13:59.700 --> 01:14:00.680
And I'm not going to tell you, Tom,
01:14:01.040 --> 01:14:02.100
whether you're a Republican Democrat
01:14:02.400 --> 01:14:03.320
or a senator on the other side,
01:14:03.740 --> 01:14:05.220
it depends on the definition of primary,
01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:07.240
with the rest of challenges attacking
01:14:07.420 --> 01:14:08.800
unemployment on the left.
01:14:09.280 --> 01:14:11.120
Where I know these are things that probably didn't want
01:14:11.240 --> 01:14:13.840
to be fully believing that we need to change this position
01:14:13.920 --> 01:14:15.440
on things like abortion or immigration
01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:16.600
because of the crime errors.
01:14:17.380 --> 01:14:18.120
Let's go again.
01:14:18.220 --> 01:14:18.960
I think we have to-
01:14:19.060 --> 01:14:19.480
Here we go.
01:14:19.660 --> 01:14:20.100
Here we go.
01:14:29.080 --> 01:14:35.580
I support and I support a ban on stock trading.
01:14:35.900 --> 01:14:36.700
All those things are great.
01:14:37.140 --> 01:14:37.820
I will tell you,
01:14:37.980 --> 01:14:41.720
nobody else in the United Nations except me has started with those things.
01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:46.260
So I would help you be aware that your publics and your public and public is not doing that.
01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:47.200
Good response.
01:14:47.640 --> 01:14:48.460
Good response there.
01:15:14.080 --> 01:15:15.280
this is a great answer.
01:15:44.860 --> 01:15:48.060
And I think Congress faces a growing pressure to lead.
01:15:49.060 --> 01:15:51.820
What do you believe is the greatest threat that China poses
01:15:52.360 --> 01:15:54.480
and what specifically would you do to lead?
01:15:56.080 --> 01:15:59.140
I guess that's a good question.
01:15:59.660 --> 01:16:00.900
What's the family difference in size,
01:16:01.500 --> 01:16:01.960
in betterment,
01:16:02.320 --> 01:16:02.740
in co-workers?
01:16:03.320 --> 01:16:05.020
And I thought I'd be giving you a question earlier
01:16:05.160 --> 01:16:06.400
that I believe that in the afterlife,
01:16:07.010 --> 01:16:07.540
it's critical.
01:16:08.020 --> 01:16:09.980
It's going to restructure the way our communities work.
01:16:10.200 --> 01:16:12.080
The information that's flowing into our families
01:16:12.080 --> 01:16:13.760
where businesses operate.
01:16:14.860 --> 01:16:18.140
The living and grad school had a Chinese care in my class.
01:16:18.940 --> 01:16:21.440
And she sat down with me, she sat down with me,
01:16:21.990 --> 01:16:22.100
I'm American,
01:16:22.560 --> 01:16:23.240
so focused,
01:16:23.550 --> 01:16:24.860
I'm not gonna enjoy the succeed.
01:16:25.880 --> 01:16:27.080
It was an interesting conversation,
01:16:27.240 --> 01:16:27.380
right?
01:16:27.480 --> 01:16:29.680
And I knocked out how it really definitely
01:16:29.940 --> 01:16:30.780
believed in different things.
01:16:31.350 --> 01:16:31.980
And she's okay,
01:16:32.140 --> 01:16:32.760
we achieved,
01:16:33.860 --> 01:16:34.420
as you can see,
01:16:34.700 --> 01:16:35.560
a lot of these three markets
01:16:35.670 --> 01:16:37.000
and our elections and respect
01:16:37.050 --> 01:16:38.240
is pretty much speech and religion.
01:16:38.980 --> 01:16:39.740
Would you be doing them?
01:16:40.600 --> 01:16:41.580
I understand I'm changing it.
01:16:41.820 --> 01:16:41.900
So,
01:16:42.440 --> 01:16:43.660
I hope I'll be one of the first years
01:16:43.800 --> 01:16:45.000
to be able to sign a big deal.
01:16:45.420 --> 01:16:46.900
It's going through a deal that we've used
01:16:47.020 --> 01:16:48.600
in the last few weeks to meet and save people.
01:16:49.120 --> 01:16:50.460
But that is not what's happening.
01:16:50.920 --> 01:16:53.060
And this makes it difficult for the time and time
01:16:53.160 --> 01:16:55.360
to assess the WTO and didn't give us
01:16:55.700 --> 01:16:56.740
reciprocal market access.
01:16:57.200 --> 01:16:59.260
They flooded and doubled their goods into foreign markets.
01:16:59.660 --> 01:17:01.220
They stole our intellectual property.
01:17:02.280 --> 01:17:04.840
And they do have a great interest in these interests.
01:17:05.140 --> 01:17:06.080
I was just wondering, Mr. Chairman,
01:17:06.180 --> 01:17:08.340
the greatest threat that the campus is,
01:17:08.440 --> 01:17:09.240
what will you do about it?
01:17:09.360 --> 01:17:11.060
Yeah, first-hand cloud being independent thinking.
01:17:11.180 --> 01:17:12.580
And I wonder if I'm being independent thinking
01:17:12.640 --> 01:17:15.160
while my opponent was working in the Trump administration
01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:17.860
to advance their policies today that have satisfied
01:17:18.380 --> 01:17:19.080
what always means.
01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:20.680
That's a good shot right there.
01:17:20.860 --> 01:17:21.440
Yeah,
01:17:22.160 --> 01:17:24.040
and I think that in the recent legal stage,
01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:27.440
pushing our lives to seek retroactive New York's
01:17:27.440 --> 01:17:31.480
of China through our half-cousered version of mail
01:17:32.060 --> 01:17:32.540
with Canada,
01:17:33.060 --> 01:17:34.640
and that is down with cost,
01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:38.320
that it still has to be able to be unbearable.
01:17:39.080 --> 01:17:42.720
It will cost us our generations the evidence of man in the local state.
01:17:43.240 --> 01:17:47.060
And we are in the means I've seen China create the jobs of the future.
01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:48.120
Electric vehicles,
01:17:48.470 --> 01:17:49.160
if some reason,
01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:50.600
this administration,
01:17:51.130 --> 01:17:52.500
with the acquiescence of Congress,
01:17:52.960 --> 01:17:54.980
has refused to allow
01:17:55.840 --> 01:17:58.440
government companies to build the vehicles that consumers want.
01:17:58.880 --> 01:18:02.280
The fuel efficiency standards are built.
01:18:04.020 --> 01:18:07.060
the drag-to-prone new-world electric vehicles were built.
01:18:07.600 --> 01:18:10.200
China is now making new-worlds electric vehicles
01:18:10.340 --> 01:18:11.360
because the global,
01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:13.400
the global has an active electric vehicles
01:18:13.860 --> 01:18:16.540
and they are now increasingly non-American vehicles.
01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:17.860
So that's a pretty good thing to say, sir.
01:18:18.420 --> 01:18:18.780
Thank you.
01:18:19.740 --> 01:18:21.140
So many American people on the White House
01:18:21.320 --> 01:18:22.660
are from the greatest numbers of White House.
01:18:23.240 --> 01:18:24.380
Every day, they're about to go to work
01:18:24.420 --> 01:18:25.560
and fight for the American people.
01:18:26.020 --> 01:18:27.260
The pushback against China
01:18:27.460 --> 01:18:29.420
under planning their businesses in our labor force
01:18:30.100 --> 01:18:31.460
is also due until the late '18,
01:18:43.960 --> 01:18:44.920
Was that
01:18:49.160 --> 01:18:55.580
Is he trying to say that McAdams was slacking because he was hospitalized that was weird
01:18:56.220 --> 01:18:57.900
[
01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:27.840
Ensure we disagree how power should be left.
01:19:28.440 --> 01:19:31.360
But I'm starting with the question about how we must attempt impoliation.
01:19:32.180 --> 01:19:33.320
We're both trying to be left.
01:19:33.820 --> 01:19:34.560
I think there's a difference.
01:19:35.380 --> 01:19:37.480
Then once they get a government to raise their taxes,
01:19:38.180 --> 01:19:39.320
I want more efficient government.
01:19:40.240 --> 01:19:41.520
That's why I'm going to get the end of the day.
01:19:42.060 --> 01:19:46.520
And I'm on this stage before the first Chinese Consulate has to wrestle armies in the country.
01:19:47.260 --> 01:19:52.260
The United Republic has thrived on as an average generation getting involved for the last two hundred and thirty years.
01:19:52.820 --> 01:19:54.780
And we're going to make it a matter of 250,
01:19:55.380 --> 01:19:57.280
when we desire getting more young people involved.
01:19:57.720 --> 01:19:59.920
When we can raise our head and make our voices heard,
01:20:00.400 --> 01:20:02.960
and to propose new ideas and finding new faces in Washington.
01:20:03.580 --> 01:20:04.460
Because what we've been doing,
01:20:04.840 --> 01:20:07.380
we're only years left to set aside from both parties.
01:20:08.100 --> 01:20:08.440
So tonight,
01:20:08.780 --> 01:20:09.600
I'm going to ask you to vote.
01:20:10.060 --> 01:20:11.520
It's an honor to be on this stage.
01:20:11.880 --> 01:20:13.620
It's an honor to be on your ballot this November.
01:20:14.100 --> 01:20:14.420
Thank you.
01:20:15.180 --> 01:20:16.500
Just to compare my closest senior,
01:20:17.100 --> 01:20:17.460
thank you,
01:20:17.940 --> 01:20:20.000
for years we've heard comments from people,
01:20:20.400 --> 01:20:21.200
from your culture,
01:20:21.580 --> 01:20:25.000
And people are not only frustrated with both parties,
01:20:25.520 --> 01:20:26.100
but we should be.
01:20:26.700 --> 01:20:28.300
Who is the exact next party to the Republicans?
01:20:29.120 --> 01:20:31.580
The second party still represents you.
01:20:32.500 --> 01:20:33.300
We are the second party.
01:20:33.400 --> 01:20:33.660
Ooh.
01:20:34.480 --> 01:20:35.820
I didn't see that coming.
01:20:36.160 --> 01:20:36.400
I know.
01:20:37.220 --> 01:20:38.640
It's when you have to put your hand up,
01:20:40.320 --> 01:20:42.580
when your kids have a fortitude here,
01:20:44.660 --> 01:20:45.600
when your constitution,
01:20:46.380 --> 01:20:47.800
no one can protect your family,
01:20:48.220 --> 01:20:49.100
when you're not a celebrity,
01:20:49.380 --> 01:20:52.220
It's a big deal when you hand out the Boomer data center.
01:20:56.980 --> 01:20:59.540
I invite you to join our coalition.
01:21:00.720 --> 01:21:03.260
And I promise that I will work hard for you,
01:21:03.860 --> 01:21:04.580
even if you don't.
01:21:05.220 --> 01:21:07.020
To be a Democrat, so you depend on the Republicans,
01:21:07.390 --> 01:21:08.660
I hope you hear me when I say,
01:21:09.260 --> 01:21:10.640
"We do not own this country."
01:21:11.200 --> 01:21:13.000
But from the bottom of the party, we will first help them.
01:21:13.980 --> 01:21:14.740
The real question is,
01:21:15.020 --> 01:21:16.440
who do you trust? Who do you want to write?
01:21:28.060 --> 01:21:28.460
Okay.
01:21:36.620 --> 01:21:37.600
That's enough of that.
01:21:37.780 --> 01:21:38.760
So we're going to end that now.
01:21:40.880 --> 01:21:41.840
And we're going to go back
01:21:41.860 --> 01:21:46.460
to let's talk about what we just saw.
01:21:46.780 --> 01:21:48.820
What are your reactions to that?
01:21:49.100 --> 01:21:50.880
I was really surprised
01:21:52.180 --> 01:21:53.360
by Riley Owen.
01:21:54.160 --> 01:21:56.280
That was not what I was expecting.
01:21:56.780 --> 01:21:59.140
He sounded almost like a progressive
01:22:00.360 --> 01:22:06.500
at times when he was talking about data centers and saving the environment and
01:22:07.780 --> 01:22:09.040
affordability issues.
01:22:09.450 --> 01:22:11.040
He almost sounded like a progressive,
01:22:11.220 --> 01:22:12.920
although he did get to some
01:22:12.920 --> 01:22:17.060
of the more conservative things. He leaned hard on a balanced budget amendment, which
01:22:17.200 --> 01:22:18.600
is probably not going to happen.
01:22:22.380 --> 01:22:22.820
McAdams,
01:22:23.140 --> 01:22:24.760
he did what he had to do.
01:22:25.880 --> 01:22:26.980
I thought Owen was
01:22:27.040 --> 01:22:31.320
a little more impressive in the way, he looked a little more polished in the way that he spoke,
01:22:31.430 --> 01:22:32.820
which again surprised me.
01:22:33.940 --> 01:22:37.040
I have not had the opportunity to really interact with him much,
01:22:37.260 --> 01:22:41.620
So I was really impressed with how polished he was.
01:22:42.760 --> 01:22:43.200
Although,
01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:48.660
you know, when you get down to the end of a lot of his policies,
01:22:49.370 --> 01:22:49.840
we're about
01:22:49.960 --> 01:22:50.960
more efficient government.
01:22:51.480 --> 01:22:56.480
That message is falling flat because of the fiasco that happened with Doge.
01:22:56.540 --> 01:23:00.400
And people are understanding that a lot of the stuff that they relied on the government
01:23:00.580 --> 01:23:02.000
is no longer around anymore.
01:23:03.180 --> 01:23:08.460
We'll go back to this in a little bit when we get to the media scrum.
01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:11.580
They're going to bring the two candidates out for about 10 minutes.
01:23:11.840 --> 01:23:13.740
So we are waiting for that.
01:23:16.040 --> 01:23:17.900
Halep Nutz on YouTube says, "Good job, sir.
01:23:17.910 --> 01:23:18.680
I subbed your channel.
01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:19.620
Thanks for your work.
01:23:19.720 --> 01:23:20.400
Thank you so much.
01:23:20.920 --> 01:23:21.900
I appreciate that."
01:23:22.400 --> 01:23:25.780
But we are going to get to the media scrum where the candidates are going to come out
01:23:25.780 --> 01:23:27.280
and talk for about 10 minutes each.
01:23:29.020 --> 01:23:33.160
I want to talk a little bit about what Mick Adams did at the end in his closing speech
01:23:33.160 --> 01:23:35.380
statement because I thought it was really smart.
01:23:36.200 --> 01:23:38.240
What McAdams did in that closing statement
01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:48.480
is that he made an appeal directly to Republicans because he, as much as of a Democratic-leaning
01:23:48.620 --> 01:23:50.360
district this is,
01:23:51.040 --> 01:23:55.320
McAdams has to put together a coalition. He can't win it alone with just
01:23:55.420 --> 01:24:02.659
Democratic votes because Republicans and independents make up the largest voting block in this new
01:24:02.520 --> 01:24:09.900
District 1. I think independence make up about 35 percent and then you got Republicans making
01:24:10.020 --> 01:24:13.160
about 34 percent and Democrats are about 25 percent.
01:24:13.750 --> 01:24:15.500
And so he needs to put together
01:24:15.790 --> 01:24:18.080
a coalition of Republicans,
01:24:18.520 --> 01:24:19.880
independents and Democrats.
01:24:20.220 --> 01:24:21.660
You know, he has to get Republicans
01:24:22.150 --> 01:24:23.240
to cross the aisle.
01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:28.860
Neither of them can win just by relying on pure partisanship as it
01:24:28.680 --> 01:24:29.720
It was under the old maps.
01:24:29.730 --> 01:24:30.420
Under the old maps,
01:24:31.060 --> 01:24:32.500
Democratic votes did not matter.
01:24:32.850 --> 01:24:33.460
If Republicans,
01:24:33.630 --> 01:24:35.360
you could just plead to Republicans and win.
01:24:35.910 --> 01:24:38.500
But McAdams needs to get people to cross over.
01:24:38.900 --> 01:24:41.140
He needs independence to vote for him and he needs Republicans.
01:24:41.250 --> 01:24:44.340
And so I thought his appeal at the end there was really smart.
01:24:44.440 --> 01:24:46.060
And I think that's a lot of the reasons,
01:24:46.600 --> 01:24:49.180
a lot of people in the chat were saying they thought
01:24:49.420 --> 01:24:53.500
that Owen was just saying what people wanted to hear.
01:24:54.000 --> 01:24:56.020
I can't comment on the veracity of that.
01:24:56.100 --> 01:24:57.080
I don't know if he was.
01:24:58.160 --> 01:25:00.080
I mean, he was impressive with his answers.
01:25:00.260 --> 01:25:04.000
They were surprisingly progressive in some points.
01:25:04.580 --> 01:25:10.560
But I don't know if we can say that about his answers.
01:25:10.760 --> 01:25:15.060
But he's a candidate who seemingly fits the district.
01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:18.440
He needs to-- if he's going to win,
01:25:18.540 --> 01:25:21.140
he needs to win an overwhelming number of Republicans,
01:25:21.600 --> 01:25:23.400
an overwhelming number of independents,
01:25:23.500 --> 01:25:25.620
and get some Democrats to cross over.
01:25:26.120 --> 01:25:28.600
That's the winning math for both of them.
01:25:31.900 --> 01:25:33.560
So I think that that's what,
01:25:33.980 --> 01:25:35.860
it was very smart at the end.
01:25:38.400 --> 01:25:41.220
Again, I mentioned it earlier when Owens took that weird
01:25:41.620 --> 01:25:44.340
swipe at McAdams towards the end when he,
01:25:46.920 --> 01:25:49.580
McAdams hit him with the fact that he had worked
01:25:49.740 --> 01:25:50.860
for the Trump administration.
01:25:51.420 --> 01:25:53.380
And then Owen tried to come back and he was trying
01:25:53.480 --> 01:25:55.180
to defend his work in the Trump administration.
01:25:55.800 --> 01:25:58.280
But he made it sound like McAdams was slacking
01:25:58.420 --> 01:26:01.500
because he was hospitalized when he got COVID.
01:26:02.040 --> 01:26:03.740
He said, "I know you were hospitalized,
01:26:03.790 --> 01:26:05.580
"but I was working for the American people."
01:26:07.400 --> 01:26:10.360
That's probably one that he wishes he could have back
01:26:10.480 --> 01:26:11.600
'cause it was really clunky.
01:26:12.140 --> 01:26:13.120
I don't think that that one worked.
01:26:13.240 --> 01:26:15.740
So give me your reactions,
01:26:15.900 --> 01:26:16.720
give me your thoughts
01:26:16.860 --> 01:26:18.700
in the chat and we will talk about this.
01:26:20.420 --> 01:26:24.520
I thought it was better than some debates in the past.
01:26:24.660 --> 01:26:28.200
I thought the part where the moderator let them go after each other,
01:26:28.510 --> 01:26:29.440
that was a really,
01:26:29.640 --> 01:26:31.820
really good exchange.
01:26:33.120 --> 01:26:34.140
Rowan really didn't.
01:26:34.240 --> 01:26:36.020
I mean, when he was talking about gerrymandering,
01:26:36.410 --> 01:26:38.960
I got the sense that he didn't really believe
01:26:39.180 --> 01:26:42.280
it because McAdams came back and hit it.
01:26:42.290 --> 01:26:48.380
I mean, he talked about how he thinks that gerrymandering is the problem on both sides
01:26:48.540 --> 01:26:50.240
because it caters to the extremes.
01:26:50.980 --> 01:26:53.860
And then McAdams came and said, well, you know,
01:26:54.100 --> 01:26:58.280
hopefully you will press your colleagues
01:26:58.960 --> 01:27:01.860
to vote to do the things that they were supposed to do.
01:27:08.560 --> 01:27:10.460
Halapenut says he's a young cattle,
01:27:10.620 --> 01:27:11.740
though he isn't a son piker.
01:27:11.900 --> 01:27:13.020
Does he take APAC funds?
01:27:13.600 --> 01:27:14.380
I don't know.
01:27:14.380 --> 01:27:16.060
I haven't seen any disclosures.
01:27:16.460 --> 01:27:20.860
Um, actually technically neither of them take APAC funds.
01:27:21.360 --> 01:27:21.580
Um,
01:27:22.200 --> 01:27:25.220
McAdams did take some in 2020,
01:27:25.720 --> 01:27:29.340
six years ago, he got a $5,000 donation from a
01:27:30.080 --> 01:27:32.560
pack that was connected to the Israel lobby,
01:27:32.990 --> 01:27:34.520
but he has not directly taken any
01:27:34.600 --> 01:27:35.600
money from APAC.
01:27:36.060 --> 01:27:39.200
Um, the stop APACs hit on him earlier this year.
01:27:39.260 --> 01:27:42.440
They had to walk that back because their methodology was really bad.
01:27:43.100 --> 01:27:43.460
Um,
01:27:43.740 --> 01:27:44.820
let's see.
01:27:44.980 --> 01:27:48.440
Elliot Nutter, I will say, Ben seemed to stumble over his words at times, odd pauses
01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:49.680
and ums, not a big deal.
01:27:50.140 --> 01:27:54.640
Like, like I said, Owen was much more polished than McAdams was.
01:27:55.220 --> 01:27:55.440
Um,
01:27:55.600 --> 01:28:02.080
and, um, I was kind of impressed because when he was, when, when it sounded,
01:28:02.260 --> 01:28:02.340
when
01:28:02.340 --> 01:28:07.740
it was clear that he was speaking off the cuff, he still sounded like it was rehearsed.
01:28:08.140 --> 01:28:09.140
Um, but it was,
01:28:09.320 --> 01:28:11.960
uh, it was a natural rehearsed, if that makes any sense.
01:28:12.140 --> 01:28:14.720
He was impressive in the way that he spoke.
01:28:15.680 --> 01:28:16.000
Let's see.
01:28:16.600 --> 01:28:21.260
Alex Wood on YouTube says, "I wish they had talked more about Congress failing to do its
01:28:21.340 --> 01:28:23.700
duty and keep the executive branch in check."
01:28:23.700 --> 01:28:23.980
Me too.
01:28:24.690 --> 01:28:25.360
They were really,
01:28:26.080 --> 01:28:26.440
they talked,
01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:28.360
McAdams said that it's Congress'
01:28:28.580 --> 01:28:29.340
job and they're not doing
01:28:29.420 --> 01:28:29.840
their job,
01:28:30.240 --> 01:28:30.900
which is true,
01:28:31.520 --> 01:28:35.280
but I didn't really hear any specifics about what they can do
01:28:35.860 --> 01:28:40.620
to rein in the executive branch because that's one of the biggest problems right now.
01:28:41.240 --> 01:28:49.660
And if Democrats take control of Congress and they are favored to win both houses of
01:28:49.700 --> 01:28:50.280
Congress,
01:28:51.720 --> 01:28:52.840
50 plus one,
01:28:53.340 --> 01:28:55.780
just looking at that right now, they're forecast for the house.
01:28:56.360 --> 01:29:00.480
And if you want a really good analysis of what's going to happen, go to 50plusone.com.
01:29:01.280 --> 01:29:06.480
That one is run by G. Eliot Morris and he's friend of the show.
01:29:06.480 --> 01:29:07.900
He was on the podcast a while ago.
01:29:08.680 --> 01:29:13.720
They are saying the Democrats have a 99% chance of winning control of the House and their
01:29:13.820 --> 01:29:20.140
odds of the Senate winning are going up to about 75% out of 100.
01:29:21.280 --> 01:29:26.840
It was a couple of weeks ago, it was like 56% percent.
01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:28.320
Let's see.
01:29:30.040 --> 01:29:32.240
Brick LT talking about McAdams stumbling over his words.
01:29:32.310 --> 01:29:33.860
He says, "I don't care about speech impediments.
01:29:33.870 --> 01:29:35.220
I'm glad you don't because I have stutter.
01:29:35.520 --> 01:29:37.460
I've had to stutter my entire life,
01:29:37.640 --> 01:29:38.500
so I appreciate that.
01:29:39.600 --> 01:29:40.020
Let's see.
01:29:40.740 --> 01:29:42.600
Sammy Soso-Sos says, "This is my district.
01:29:42.840 --> 01:29:44.420
Owens is too mature and looks young.
01:29:44.920 --> 01:29:46.620
McAdams, Family Man, Testimony Voice,
01:29:46.900 --> 01:29:47.420
good responses.
01:29:47.800 --> 01:29:51.460
Bum, they didn't talk about education and book ban and ban book issues."
01:29:51.720 --> 01:29:54.400
I understand where you're coming with that, but that's more of a state issue.
01:29:55.300 --> 01:29:58.240
It would have given McAdams a chance to grandstand a little bit,
01:29:58.780 --> 01:30:00.880
but I don't really think that
01:30:00.960 --> 01:30:05.500
there's much that Congress can do to stop the book banning when it's happening on a state
01:30:05.500 --> 01:30:09.080
level. And I am vehemently opposed to book banning.
01:30:09.720 --> 01:30:12.280
We're waiting for the media scrum
01:30:12.360 --> 01:30:14.300
to start. The media is just kind of standing around.
01:30:14.960 --> 01:30:16.480
And when that happens, we will get
01:30:16.600 --> 01:30:20.280
to that. That's about 10 minutes of questioning for each of the candidates.
01:30:20.500 --> 01:30:22.120
So we'll see what
01:30:22.220 --> 01:30:23.780
they decide to ask about.
01:30:23.960 --> 01:30:25.000
That's usually pretty telling.
01:30:27.820 --> 01:30:28.180
Let's see.
01:30:29.220 --> 01:30:30.380
Going back over some of
01:30:30.380 --> 01:30:31.780
the other commonance.
01:30:33.410 --> 01:30:37.100
The evidence that Javier Seger on YouTube said earlier,
01:30:37.550 --> 01:30:37.940
the evidence
01:30:37.990 --> 01:30:42.020
that Owen's party is composed of waste, fraud, and abuse is laid bare with him, name dropping
01:30:42.160 --> 01:30:42.480
the Navy,
01:30:42.980 --> 01:30:46.720
every other word, the Pentagon has not passed an audit in years. That is true.
01:30:48.240 --> 01:30:52.060
Axelwood says, "I'm surprised by Owen's depressive answers, but I think he'd fold like a camp
01:30:52.140 --> 01:30:59.500
chair as soon as his feet hit the ground in D.C." There's really not a lot that individual
01:30:59.500 --> 01:31:00.960
members of the House can do this.
01:31:01.260 --> 01:31:02.440
435 of them.
01:31:03.020 --> 01:31:04.100
And a lot of the decisions,
01:31:04.400 --> 01:31:05.580
you know, leadership
01:31:05.820 --> 01:31:08.240
decides what they vote on on the floor.
01:31:08.690 --> 01:31:10.440
It has to go through leadership has to be vetted
01:31:10.520 --> 01:31:16.580
by leadership. That's why Blake Moore is one of his leadership is one of those powerful
01:31:16.660 --> 01:31:17.760
members of Congress right now,
01:31:18.050 --> 01:31:19.440
because he helps set that agenda.
01:31:19.960 --> 01:31:21.840
It's really hard for
01:31:23.400 --> 01:31:27.780
individual member of the house to make an impact like that.
01:31:28.440 --> 01:31:28.620
But,
01:31:28.780 --> 01:31:30.780
you know,
01:31:32.420 --> 01:31:33.340
if you are in the
01:31:33.360 --> 01:31:35.180
minority, if Owen wins this seat,
01:31:35.780 --> 01:31:38.100
and that's highly unlikely, but if Owen wins this seat,
01:31:39.460 --> 01:31:41.860
it's more likely than not that he will be in the minority.
01:31:42.180 --> 01:31:43.700
And the minority really can't do
01:31:44.400 --> 01:31:44.880
anything.
01:31:46.180 --> 01:31:49.920
The press follows the majority around. That's who they go talk to.
01:31:50.380 --> 01:31:51.060
And the minority,
01:31:51.480 --> 01:31:54.560
you know, they're just kind of left doing their thing. And if this flips,
01:31:55.220 --> 01:31:55.380
you know,
01:31:55.440 --> 01:31:59.400
the Republicans are going to have a hard time getting any attention because they're just
01:31:59.460 --> 01:32:00.400
not able to do anything.
01:32:01.540 --> 01:32:02.200
Let's see.
01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:04.940
Brick LT says, "I never received my ballot in the mail. I would
01:32:05.000 --> 01:32:09.640
have liked election integrity to be addressed." Ballots for the November election have not
01:32:09.800 --> 01:32:10.740
been mailed out yet.
01:32:11.540 --> 01:32:13.380
I don't know what district you're in,
01:32:13.540 --> 01:32:13.620
Brick.
01:32:14.140 --> 01:32:15.860
Okay, time to go back to the
01:32:17.040 --> 01:32:19.700
media scrum. So hang on just a moment. We'll get over there.
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>> [INAUDIBLE]
01:32:38.560 --> 01:32:41.500
>> Riley Owen will be the first to take questions from the media.
01:33:02.100 --> 01:33:04.180
That's an apt question.
01:33:04.180 --> 01:33:07.260
A lot here that you guys were just pretty much the same candidate.
01:33:57.620 --> 01:34:01.080
and on that note, do you support President Trump and his agenda?
01:34:02.580 --> 01:34:06.640
So now, I'm going to attend President Trump or to defend a party I'm running tonight for
01:34:06.680 --> 01:34:08.280
the Etonnes of the First Congressional District.
01:34:08.880 --> 01:34:12.260
I'll come in, see if you like the way some things that he gets along, and that he's
01:34:12.280 --> 01:34:13.340
with every president,
01:34:13.660 --> 01:34:14.820
and both parties have it.
01:34:15.420 --> 01:34:18.960
I'm flying to put major notification requirements on the UN 16 dot,
01:34:19.400 --> 01:34:19.960
and it gets that
01:34:20.120 --> 01:34:20.700
should be elected,
01:34:21.100 --> 01:34:22.600
addicting generations of the Americans.
01:34:23.240 --> 01:34:27.220
I'll also expand on access to the interdiction of all of the checks on numbers of powers
01:34:27.330 --> 01:34:29.800
to stop trading stocks and engaging in prediction markets.
01:34:49.190 --> 01:34:51.080
Now, both you and Ben McAdams talked
01:34:51.280 --> 01:34:53.160
about the importance of a federal framework
01:34:53.390 --> 01:34:54.980
to regulate AI risks.
01:34:55.640 --> 01:34:59.119
But we have the CEOs of Anthropic and Open
01:34:59.100 --> 01:35:01.400
clamor for regulation where the CEO,
01:35:01.580 --> 01:35:02.080
NVIDIA,
01:35:02.360 --> 01:35:02.560
asks,
01:35:03.010 --> 01:35:03.880
"You guys are the frontier.
01:35:04.060 --> 01:35:04.280
Why don't
01:35:04.280 --> 01:35:06.220
you just slow down your development?
01:35:06.400 --> 01:35:09.000
Are you worried about regulatory capture and these
01:35:09.180 --> 01:35:11.520
companies asking to be regulated by Congress?"
01:35:11.620 --> 01:35:12.040
Absolutely.
01:35:12.260 --> 01:35:14.460
That's why you're repeating the debate today, saying that we should regulate
01:35:14.640 --> 01:35:15.120
the risk,
01:35:15.500 --> 01:35:16.420
not the innovation,
01:35:16.850 --> 01:35:17.380
in other words,
01:35:17.700 --> 01:35:19.380
for example, the CEO and content,
01:35:19.780 --> 01:35:20.160
but I think
01:35:20.280 --> 01:35:20.600
we're going to,
01:35:20.780 --> 01:35:23.520
and as they publish one of the suggestions that we have, and say it's
01:35:23.580 --> 01:35:24.380
independent auditors,
01:35:24.900 --> 01:35:25.740
come in and have access.
01:35:26.440 --> 01:35:26.980
That's not true,
01:35:27.160 --> 01:35:28.100
but I think the system
01:35:44.199 --> 01:35:48.120
I don't know how you regulate the risk,
01:35:48.740 --> 01:35:50.120
but not the innovation.
01:35:51.020 --> 01:36:05.280
or would type out these telecommun
01:36:34.880 --> 01:36:40.020
was not expecting the Republican to compare himself to Obama on immigration.
01:36:40.820 --> 01:36:41.440
(audience member speaking)
01:37:00.820 --> 01:37:01.840
We've got a minute left on our question.
01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:04.220
If you are elected, you say you aren't running
01:37:04.340 --> 01:37:05.720
to defend the record of President Trump,
01:37:05.840 --> 01:37:08.380
but are you worried at all about the cultural realities
01:37:08.700 --> 01:37:11.420
of Congress over the last however many years,
01:37:11.900 --> 01:37:13.500
where at least on the Republican side,
01:37:13.600 --> 01:37:16.340
there is some culture of bending the knee
01:37:16.500 --> 01:37:17.440
to get things done?
01:37:18.940 --> 01:37:19.880
Do you think there will actually be room
01:37:19.890 --> 01:37:21.460
for someone like you to swim against the stream
01:37:21.530 --> 01:37:23.240
when it is advantageous to your district,
01:37:23.440 --> 01:37:26.500
or do you feel like you might be running up against them
01:37:27.600 --> 01:37:28.780
various events at the same time?
01:37:37.620 --> 01:37:39.580
That's both sides.
01:37:40.140 --> 01:37:42.300
That's both sidesism.
01:38:09.780 --> 01:38:10.900
Okay,
01:38:21.560 --> 01:38:24.720
that is the questioning for Riley Owen.
01:38:26.260 --> 01:38:27.540
question out of the box was,
01:38:28.110 --> 01:38:30.940
you know, how did you, how do you differentiate yourself
01:38:31.560 --> 01:38:32.900
with Ben McAdams?
01:38:33.140 --> 01:38:35.520
Because there was a lot of,
01:38:36.580 --> 01:38:38.940
they were extremely similar on stage
01:38:39.160 --> 01:38:39.420
tonight.
01:38:39.900 --> 01:38:42.700
It was really hard to draw a line between the two of them.
01:38:43.240 --> 01:38:44.160
There was a comment
01:38:44.320 --> 01:38:48.580
in the chat from Dank on YouTube when talking about,
01:38:48.760 --> 01:38:49.760
you know,
01:38:49.920 --> 01:38:51.900
defending Trump's record.
01:38:52.460 --> 01:38:53.480
And they said,
01:38:53.840 --> 01:38:55.560
"Look, I don't know what Trump is doing.
01:38:55.600 --> 01:38:59.120
I'm just over here trying to create some internet surveillance bills of my own."
01:38:59.520 --> 01:39:01.100
It was a deflection about Trump.
01:39:01.660 --> 01:39:06.460
It was notable that he would not defend what the president is doing.
01:39:06.520 --> 01:39:07.960
There was a question about immigration,
01:39:08.640 --> 01:39:10.380
and he really didn't answer that.
01:39:10.420 --> 01:39:11.800
He compared himself to Obama.
01:39:12.160 --> 01:39:16.940
A good follow-up to that would have been to get his reaction to the fact that the Supreme
01:39:16.940 --> 01:39:23.480
court today allowed the Trump administration to continue their policy of deporting people
01:39:23.850 --> 01:39:27.740
to countries they were not originally from to third countries.
01:39:28.620 --> 01:39:30.280
That would be a good follow-up question.
01:39:30.290 --> 01:39:31.920
We did not hear that one tonight.
01:39:32.570 --> 01:39:33.000
But again,
01:39:34.160 --> 01:39:34.280
really,
01:39:36.260 --> 01:39:42.200
I was surprised by how progressive Ryleo ensounded tonight in the
01:39:42.360 --> 01:39:42.480
debate.
01:39:42.480 --> 01:39:44.120
And you say heard a little bit more of that there.
01:39:44.860 --> 01:39:47.940
wasn't a lot of, he didn't take a lot of shots at McAdams.
01:39:49.040 --> 01:39:52.340
He did go to the talking points
01:39:52.480 --> 01:39:57.340
about McMcAdams that he wants more taxes,
01:39:58.450 --> 01:39:59.500
he wants to raise taxes.
01:40:00.540 --> 01:40:00.640
Well,
01:40:01.080 --> 01:40:02.340
I think the
01:40:02.420 --> 01:40:07.460
only raised tax thing that McAdams has talked about is repealing the big beautiful bill,
01:40:07.740 --> 01:40:09.580
which you had a lot of tax cuts in it,
01:40:09.820 --> 01:40:10.860
made the Trump 2020,
01:40:11.700 --> 01:40:14.180
the 2021 tax,
01:40:14.380 --> 01:40:16.060
sorry, the 2019
01:40:16.420 --> 01:40:17.840
tax cuts for Trump permanent,
01:40:18.740 --> 01:40:23.040
but instead of letting them expire in 2025,
01:40:23.450 --> 01:40:24.560
but also cut
01:40:24.560 --> 01:40:25.100
a lot of taxes.
01:40:25.150 --> 01:40:25.340
Okay,
01:40:25.500 --> 01:40:29.060
Ben McAdams is coming to the podium to answer questions now.
01:40:38.920 --> 01:40:39.240
[ Inaudible ]
01:40:49.600 --> 01:40:50.720
>> A lot of similarities.
01:40:50.900 --> 01:40:51.320
So what -
01:40:51.320 --> 01:40:51.460
>> Wait.
01:40:51.920 --> 01:40:52.300
>> Ready?
01:40:52.460 --> 01:40:54.480
>> Okay, bye.
01:40:55.020 --> 01:40:57.120
>> There's a lot of similarities between you and him.
01:40:57.120 --> 01:41:00.240
There was a lot of agreement here on the stage with few disagreements.
01:41:00.660 --> 01:41:03.180
I guess the question I have is how are you not the same candidate?
01:41:47.120 --> 01:41:47.460
Ooh,
01:41:49.020 --> 01:41:49.600
that was interesting.
01:41:55.960 --> 01:41:58.640
Your opponent brought up the donation from the think big-
01:41:58.640 --> 01:41:59.280
That's a good question.
01:41:59.840 --> 01:42:01.740
I just wanted to give you a chance to respond to that
01:42:01.880 --> 01:42:03.760
and maybe reassure voters that your decisions,
01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:04.660
especially on AI,
01:42:04.840 --> 01:42:05.800
without being such a big issue,
01:42:06.500 --> 01:42:07.880
how you'll be making those decisions.
01:42:19.719 --> 01:42:21.420
I'm not accepting that donation.
01:42:21.640 --> 01:42:25.820
I'm not requesting that's the activity of expenditures and not something that can't
01:42:25.820 --> 01:42:30.040
be requested and can't be included in my desk.
01:42:31.400 --> 01:42:36.700
And I said on the debate when I said that if I was on this campaign that AI needs recommendations
01:42:36.940 --> 01:42:42.500
we've got to protect from some really scary stuff that people could get out of.
01:42:43.540 --> 01:42:44.720
But as a small enough,
01:42:44.900 --> 01:42:45.340
as significant,
01:42:45.550 --> 01:42:47.100
if you look at what we've been doing,
01:42:47.100 --> 01:42:49.220
the first of which is we're at risk of contact.
01:42:49.370 --> 01:42:50.920
So, in fact, we're less than 2%
01:42:51.380 --> 01:42:53.240
to get up to down the newly-extravated
01:43:01.980 --> 01:43:16.000
I didn't request that money, but are you going to spend it?
01:43:16.500 --> 01:43:18.000
I am losing the location to me.
01:43:18.780 --> 01:43:21.280
But we didn't come to any of them.
01:43:21.840 --> 01:43:25.700
And we're very unsat
01:43:49.880 --> 01:43:52.460
My dog Daisy is joining us here.
01:43:52.770 --> 01:43:53.100
Hold on.
01:43:55.460 --> 01:43:56.400
Oh, she jumped down.
01:43:57.140 --> 01:43:59.180
We have seen the constitution,
01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:01.340
so if constitutionally safe,
01:44:01.520 --> 01:44:04.420
there is no end of trade like we never imagined before.
01:44:05.900 --> 01:44:09.780
I hope that we have the viewers who have stepped up
01:44:09.780 --> 01:44:12.960
and now wait for the Republican party after that
01:44:13.020 --> 01:44:15.140
and try to put it in the party with them.
01:44:15.540 --> 01:44:16.720
We are going to create a solution
01:44:17.060 --> 01:44:17.720
where it is to stand up,
01:44:17.980 --> 01:44:19.220
stand outside of the constitution,
01:44:19.680 --> 01:44:20.380
stand outside,
01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:21.520
stand out,
01:44:21.900 --> 01:44:23.800
a little more, a lot of fighting in the picture.
01:44:23.900 --> 01:44:25.780
That's a good answer.
01:44:26.180 --> 01:44:28.100
of student but to the corrupt students,
01:44:28.180 --> 01:44:30.280
see the role we have with freedom,
01:44:31.360 --> 01:44:32.300
so many people at home,
01:44:32.540 --> 01:44:32.820
and we're
01:44:32.900 --> 01:44:34.240
passing those as social members.
01:44:35.180 --> 01:44:35.700
I mean,
01:44:36.240 --> 01:44:38.220
as well as the European Republican Party,
01:44:38.360 --> 01:44:40.440
I've come back after a lot of sound power, which is us.
01:44:41.600 --> 01:44:43.340
I think in person we're helping parties today,
01:44:44.060 --> 01:44:46.260
and the majority of the people who want to stand up
01:44:46.440 --> 01:44:48.400
to exercise the important part,
01:44:49.310 --> 01:44:51.140
to exercise the constitutional
01:44:51.440 --> 01:44:52.960
ability to be a separate branch of government.
01:44:53.520 --> 01:44:54.900
And I think you're seeing the approach
01:44:55.140 --> 01:44:55.780
of similar mechanism.
01:44:56.660 --> 01:44:57.300
OK, one more question.
01:44:57.460 --> 01:44:59.380
But where do you see the Democratic Party then?
01:45:00.480 --> 01:45:01.300
It seems to be,
01:45:01.600 --> 01:45:03.320
you seem to be the most conservative member,
01:45:03.380 --> 01:45:04.460
or one of them at least,
01:45:04.960 --> 01:45:07.260
if we're on that sliding scale.
01:45:07.600 --> 01:45:08.580
(audience member speaking)
01:45:09.040 --> 01:45:11.180
That was Ben Winslow who answered that question.
01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:13.480
(audience member speaking)
01:45:15.880 --> 01:45:19.580
I believe that if I am sitting down with people I disagree with,
01:45:19.920 --> 01:45:21.400
because first I think we have a lot of room for them,
01:45:21.820 --> 01:45:23.360
I may or may not agree,
01:45:23.840 --> 01:45:24.600
but I think we can learn.
01:45:24.800 --> 01:45:25.180
Ultimately,
01:45:25.640 --> 01:45:30.520
I think the people who are counting on me don't care what I say, they don't care what I've thought on a political spectrum.
01:45:30.920 --> 01:45:33.300
The time changes and makes this life better.
01:45:33.460 --> 01:45:35.480
So that's what I think of me as a public servant,
01:45:36.080 --> 01:45:41.420
is to make hard decisions and work with people who sometimes I don't like.
01:45:41.880 --> 01:45:45.580
Certainly I don't make agreement that they sit down and don't make the decisions and
01:45:45.680 --> 01:45:47.700
make the policies that they make in that direction.
01:45:48.280 --> 01:45:49.700
They're actually people that are trying to make it.
01:45:49.700 --> 01:45:50.440
>> And your own party?
01:45:50.820 --> 01:45:54.680
>> Yeah, well, I believe in working across differences.
01:45:55.060 --> 01:45:57.100
Sometimes those differences are within my own party.
01:45:57.240 --> 01:45:58.440
Sometimes they're with the other party.
01:45:58.980 --> 01:46:00.560
They're really not beneficial to our game.
01:46:00.660 --> 01:46:01.240
So we take,
01:46:02.160 --> 01:46:03.320
you know, DKB, the police,
01:46:03.940 --> 01:46:04.580
and the public service,
01:46:04.820 --> 01:46:04.880
and
01:46:04.960 --> 01:46:06.300
he's the baddest one with across differences,
01:46:06.560 --> 01:46:06.680
right?
01:46:07.140 --> 01:46:09.660
You know, that doesn't just mean working with the Republican party.
01:46:09.800 --> 01:46:12.820
We also meet working across differences with the Democratic Party.
01:46:13.150 --> 01:46:13.640
There are,
01:46:13.910 --> 01:46:14.880
in strong opinions,
01:46:15.050 --> 01:46:16.880
the strong ideas within the Democratic Party,
01:46:17.020 --> 01:46:21.260
but I always said frequently during the primary and inter-sense debate,
01:46:21.760 --> 01:46:22.700
and I would put it in perspective.
01:46:23.520 --> 01:46:27.800
Democrats are disagreeing about things like the best way to make sure
01:46:27.880 --> 01:46:29.800
if the American has access to quality healthcare,
01:46:30.160 --> 01:46:32.440
and if some of us do support the Affordable Care Act,
01:46:32.540 --> 01:46:34.700
and some of us who support Medicare for All,
01:46:35.240 --> 01:46:37.920
those are differences in strategies and policies,
01:46:38.460 --> 01:46:38.960
not in those.
01:46:39.600 --> 01:46:44.420
And I think there's a big difference between the disagreements that the other party did
01:46:44.480 --> 01:46:48.600
over the real and I feel strongly about the place that I occupy on the political spectrum.
01:46:49.720 --> 01:46:55.720
But I can work with people who show the same values to me and we have different things about the strategy to achieve those values.
01:46:57.180 --> 01:46:59.820
I think a lot of times when we're dealing with the Constitution,
01:47:00.590 --> 01:47:02.360
the thing that's meant to hold that relationship better,
01:47:10.280 --> 01:47:10.880
Okay,
01:47:15.320 --> 01:47:16.220
and that's that.
01:47:16.390 --> 01:47:20.220
So we'll shut down that part of the live stream tonight.
01:47:20.740 --> 01:47:22.700
And anyway,
01:47:22.880 --> 01:47:25.920
very interesting comments from Ben Mac Adams.
01:47:27.600 --> 01:47:33.100
He did take a shot at Riley Owens and the very polished answers he was given.
01:47:33.250 --> 01:47:38.680
He said, "I hope that he's the kind of person who will follow through on that because we
01:47:38.740 --> 01:47:41.860
have a lot of politicians in the state who say one thing and then do another."
01:47:42.020 --> 01:47:43.800
I'm aggressively paraphrasing there,
01:47:44.300 --> 01:47:44.800
but he said that.
01:47:45.180 --> 01:47:50.900
At the end, he was asked about what he hoped the Republican Party would be like in the
01:47:50.940 --> 01:47:53.920
future and what the Democratic Party would be like.
01:47:54.160 --> 01:48:00.160
gave him that that was that was just a perfect opportunity for him to pivot to one of his
01:48:00.220 --> 01:48:01.100
signature issues.
01:48:01.500 --> 01:48:08.580
McAdams has built his brand as a pragmatic a preg as a pragmatist who will work across
01:48:09.220 --> 01:48:09.600
the aisle.
01:48:09.840 --> 01:48:11.800
That's what he had to do when he was in the state legislature.
01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:14.700
That's when he had to do in Salt Lake County mayor and that's what he had to do when he
01:48:14.740 --> 01:48:15.960
was in Congress the last time.
01:48:16.160 --> 01:48:20.740
So that was just that was just a meatball across the plate for him.
01:48:22.160 --> 01:48:24.360
Let's see if we have any other questions or comments here.
01:48:24.820 --> 01:48:27.080
Alex Wood asks, "What's Daisy's opinion of the debate?
01:48:27.160 --> 01:48:31.880
My dog found the lack of discussion of subsidized streets and unlimited walks very concerning."
01:48:31.880 --> 01:48:35.800
I believe Daisy Wood concur with you on that.
01:48:36.360 --> 01:48:38.960
She is telling me that it is getting close to dinner time.
01:48:39.020 --> 01:48:47.300
I actually have missed dinner time for her, so we're running a little bit late.
01:48:47.380 --> 01:48:50.040
So we'll be wrapping up here in the next few minutes.
01:48:50.200 --> 01:48:51.720
If you have any other questions,
01:48:51.940 --> 01:48:53.900
any other reaction to what you saw tonight.
01:48:55.160 --> 01:48:56.720
Again, it was a pretty good debate.
01:48:56.940 --> 01:48:59.820
I like the part where they went after each other.
01:49:00.440 --> 01:49:05.180
The moderator sort of stepped aside and let them work out some of the economic issues,
01:49:05.300 --> 01:49:06.600
talk about some of the economic stuff.
01:49:08.660 --> 01:49:13.060
She had to step in close to the end because they were beginning to run out of time.
01:49:14.240 --> 01:49:21.400
But for the most part, it was a fairly humdrum debate with a couple of interesting pops.
01:49:21.400 --> 01:49:28.880
I did appreciate the question from Ben Winslow in the scrum to both them saying, "What differentiates
01:49:28.910 --> 01:49:30.160
the two of you?"
01:49:30.180 --> 01:49:31.340
Because there was a lot of same.
01:49:32.880 --> 01:49:38.240
I don't think that that helps Owen as much as he might think it does.
01:49:38.720 --> 01:49:40.620
Owen really can't afford to,
01:49:40.800 --> 01:49:44.940
you know, really lean into the conservative issues,
01:49:45.280 --> 01:49:45.520
into the
01:49:45.560 --> 01:49:49.580
conservative talking points in this district, as we talked about earlier.
01:49:50.160 --> 01:49:51.160
It is not a,
01:49:51.500 --> 01:49:55.140
it's a majority independent or Republican district, but they don't have
01:49:55.240 --> 01:49:57.200
enough to win on their own.
01:49:57.580 --> 01:49:58.680
If this was under the old map,
01:49:59.100 --> 01:50:00.540
under Congressional District 4-1,
01:50:02.180 --> 01:50:03.260
if we had the old map,
01:50:03.460 --> 01:50:04.020
Congressional
01:50:04.060 --> 01:50:08.180
District 4 would be the part of this district, that wouldn't be the one McAdams would have
01:50:08.040 --> 01:50:08.620
to run in.
01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:10.380
I don't know if he would run,
01:50:10.560 --> 01:50:14.020
but clearly Burgess Owens would be running again
01:50:14.480 --> 01:50:19.660
because he would have a very easy time of winning reelection.
01:50:20.660 --> 01:50:20.820
Anyway,
01:50:21.160 --> 01:50:21.960
this has been
01:50:22.040 --> 01:50:24.120
fun. It was kind of a good experiment tonight.
01:50:24.900 --> 01:50:26.680
Watching along the debate with you,
01:50:26.900 --> 01:50:27.060
we're
01:50:27.100 --> 01:50:28.420
going to do it again on Friday.
01:50:28.840 --> 01:50:30.160
We have the Friday debate.
01:50:30.760 --> 01:50:32.439
That is the Congressional District
01:50:32.440 --> 01:50:33.160
three debate.
01:50:33.760 --> 01:50:36.280
That one is taking place between Celeste Malloy,
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the Republican incumbent,
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and
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Democrat Kent Udell. I expect that one to get a little spicier because Udell has to really
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make the case that he is better than Malloy because Malloy is a comfortable incumbent.
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And so,
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you know, I expect that one to get spicy.
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We'll be doing that one on Friday
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We'll start again at 5.30 with the pre-show and then we'll watch to the debate at 6.
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This has been fun.
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I appreciate the discussion in the chat.
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I'm gonna fix it so when we do this again on Friday,
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the chat will be visible to everybody.
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I just haven't quite figured out that widget yet
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when we do this again.
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So until Friday,
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This has been a lot of fun and I'm glad it worked out.
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I was glad to have you along for the ride tonight.
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Until then,
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If anything else happens, we'll have another live stream,
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But again, thank you everybody.
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Stay safe and we will talk to you again on Friday.