J007tv: Mm, they don't really ever put any serious candidates in. Yeah, I kinda wanna win.
SuboneKD: Well, they never win. It's just...
J007tv: You know? Jesus Christ. Dude, I'm so fucking sick of the matchmaking. We're gonna talk about that shit today.
SuboneKD: It's like playing life under SPMM. We are gonna talk about that shit today.
J007tv: Damn it, Elon, you mother f-
SuboneKD: I forgot to update the titles before I hit live. Go sub. You're doing so good. The link. Click the link, you dumbass. Hold on everybody. We're getting set. Hope you guys are doing well. Hope everybody's ready to go. All these titles are wrong. I had a cool title written for this thing and I forgot to put it in any of our streams so now everything is wrong. I gotta go fix it before I can get going. Hang in there.
J007tv: What's up, Chad?
SuboneKD: Which suck less. Appreciate if you would. Cool. Switched. And then. Fixed Twitter.
J007tv: Did you change the number?
SuboneKD: I did 125.
J007tv: On Twitch or on Twitter it shows one twenty four.
SuboneKD: Well, I haven't fixed ⁓ what part of on to Twitter did we not think about?
J007tv: I wasn't listening, bro. I was saving say fucking sharing my own shit, man. God damn. You know what I mean?
SuboneKD: me smalls.
J007tv: Do see they're doing a show with the original cast from that? Called Dug Out Dads. It's gonna be, I think, on ⁓ YouTube.
SuboneKD: predicted skin. ⁓ we'll see. I just switch profiles on this. Okay, I'll fix it and post everybody on Twitter just so you know it's wrong.
J007tv: Well, hit the jingle, let's get this thing poppin', baby.
SuboneKD: Let's do that.
J007tv: Welcome everybody to episode 125 of the Slightly Above Average Gaming Podcast. I know over here on Twitter it shows episode 124. This is the first time Sub One's ever tweeted anything. So he he kind of messed that up just a little bit.
SuboneKD: Fuck you too.
J007tv: I'm just kidding, man. What's up, dude?
SuboneKD: ⁓ not much. We were just bitching about data centers a minute ago and how it's one of those things where
J007tv: Yep.
SuboneKD: God stop noise. But yeah, otherwise, kind of the same I had first of my drafts yesterday.
J007tv: Yeah? How many leagues are you in?
SuboneKD: So. Or I think?
J007tv: That's too much.
SuboneKD: I have my actual league that I care about. It's full of people I know. I have a creator league that I'm in. I have the BFG league and I have a work league. That's a lot. Work league though.
J007tv: Well, I am now in the BFG League, apparently.
SuboneKD: sweet. The work league was get this 16 picks. Which is not horribly unusual. Plus flex. ⁓ So, so it's a full roster plus plus flex. And I shit you not there are 14 people in this league.
J007tv: That's too much.
SuboneKD: I just don't know. I just don't know. Like, we're in like round five and I'm like, I just auto draft because half these people are still in college. They haven't even fucking signed yet. Like, I'm just out of people to pick. So.
J007tv: Wow. Yeah, I I I'm only in two. I've been in one league for like fifteen years. ⁓ it it's started with a bunch of us that played Xbox together. Now there's only two of us left. And like I told you before, dude, the fun thing is it's a league full of fucking Philadelphia Eagles fans. So they're gonna love my fucking name this year. Yeah, they're gonna love my name this year. But ⁓ I have the draft for that tomorrow and then I j I
SuboneKD: So here's shit talk gets to go for ever. Love it.
J007tv: Gonna be joining the BFG League. Silencer sent it to me and I clicked join the league and it took me to the app, but it shows my other league in there. So I gotta figure that out.
SuboneKD: you should be able to swipe, your ESPN, you should be able to swipe back and forth between leagues.
J007tv: Yeah. ⁓ is that how you do that?
SuboneKD: Yep. Like on the home screen, you just go, and then you can be like, I'm losing this league switch. ⁓ my day's better. ⁓ so yeah, no, I, posted my, my draft results from, from last night and I'm just like, there's a little rough picking. So, and I was picking seventh. So it's kind of like seventh out of 14 with just, ⁓
J007tv: Yeah, no. ⁓ Yeah. That's that's that's awful.
SuboneKD: ⁓ that was rough.
J007tv: Here's here's here's why I think that either the very first spot or the last spot are the two best spots, especially in a snake draft. While you get the first spot, you gotta go 10 spots and then another nine back to you. You'll get two more. So you'll get you'll get one pick, it'll go back down and then back to you get another pick. You know what I'm saying? You'll the last spot, you can get two picks in a row.
SuboneKD: Yeah, no, I get, I get it. It just, yeah. Well, in the middle you get, you get a better balance. But in the last spot, you basically are skipping every other round. So you only get, you get the first pick, but then you only get two third place picks because everybody who's second place, second round is gone unless you have somebody who screws up and lets somebody drop. ⁓
J007tv: But in the middle you get fucked.
SuboneKD: Like, you know, my home's dropping to the 14th round in my league.
J007tv: You know, man, it never fails. I get people like that and they have a dog shit year. So I ha dude.
SuboneKD: He's gonna have a horrible year. He's gonna have a whole he can't run anymore. He tours ACL and he's not back 100 % He's gonna be a pocket passer and he sucks at that
J007tv: I had I had Lamar Jackson, I think it was ⁓ two years ago or after no, I had him last year and the year before he threw for like four thousand yards and got a bunch of touchdowns. He didn't do shit last year. Every time, every fucking time I get somebody like that, that's what happens, or they get hurt or whatever.
SuboneKD: It's a crap shoot. It's a crap shoot. It's gambling. Let's be honest. It's just statistical gambling.
J007tv: It really is. It it is. But it's fun as hell. I love it. I mean
SuboneKD: But we, but, but we, as, as humans get to act like we're applying skill to making decisions on something we have no control over that, that whose outcome is completely random. And so, you know, we get to have to have fun, right? And then we get to do things like, I really need this team to score like nine touchdowns, but they can't win the game. And, ⁓ and the other team's quarterback can only get to two touchdowns and under a hundred yards. So it's got to be all running backs, but it has to be the second string running back while the first string running back on the other team does most of the, you know, can't touch the ball either. Right. And you're like, all right.
J007tv: Yeah. Dude, I I I gotta tell you, if I I can't tell you how many times over 15 years that the Cowboys have fucked me in one way or another in the playoffs. Either A, I have a Cowboy player who doesn't do what they're supposed to do, or B, I have a running back in Legarrett Blunt, who's going against the Cowboys who hadn't been able to stop the run all year, and they held him to like 56 yards, and I ended up losing in the finals because of that. Like it never fails. They do the exact
SuboneKD: and they fund it.
J007tv: opposite of what I need him to do. And and I'll take cowboy players. Like if they're the towards the top of their position and that's kind of what's left, I'll do it. But I don't do it on purpose. Like I'm not a homer like that. I want to win. The only thing is I'll never take Eagles players ever again. I took two of their receivers last year, knowing who their quarterback is, I should have never done that. Yes, it was a fucking mistake. Sorry, Jordan.
SuboneKD: You know- that's a mistake. Unless you're like deep, unless you're, unless you're deep. But I, yeah. You know what I think? You know what I think fantasy football needs that would really make, you know, ⁓ manager retention better.
J007tv: If you say skill based matchmaking, I'm gonna kill you, bro.
SuboneKD: It should dynamically adjust your schedule based on your skill.
J007tv: Yeah. Jeez, O Pete, dude. It's crazy how like that's been such a big topic over this ⁓ over the beta. Let's go ahead and just get into it.
SuboneKD: Ha ha ha. It's still, it's still a big topic over the beta people, you know, it's, the, it's the thing everyone still wants to talk about.
J007tv: Yeah, ⁓ but So all right, we'll we'll talk about the matchmaking here in little bit. Overall, what what at now that we've had two weekends of the beta, what what are your thoughts? What are your likes and dislikes? Start with the likes, because I feel like that's probably gonna be a shorter list.
SuboneKD: Well, I feel like we need to split this into two sides of it because there's two weekends to the beta. The closed weekend was last week. We talked about that in the pod previously, last episode. And then there was last weekend where they made a lot of fundamental changes and a lot of adjustments. ⁓ And so it does in some ways play completely different. So I feel like a lot of things need to be kind of put in that, ⁓ are we talking about weekend one or weekend two kind of thing?
J007tv: Uh-huh.
SuboneKD: But if I were to summarize weekend one, it was fine. It wasn't like, you know, it felt like a return to a modern warfare game. felt like how modern warfare games have played forever, ⁓ which I think is, you know, generally to me, it's a positive. prefer modern warfare over black ops as anybody who's tuned into this channel or my Twitter account for five minutes or more knows. ⁓ And then weekend two, they fucked it all up and now it plays like dog shit. And the only two guns you can use are a marksman rifle or a shotgun. Everything else is fucking trash and you don't need to bother.
J007tv: Mm. It was all ⁓ fours in my lobbies. That's all pretty much anybody was using.
SuboneKD: ⁓ and you need three people to play with you because you have to run as a three or four stack. Otherwise you will just be done by three shotguns to the face.
J007tv: So, you know, I tweeted this this week. There's the hallmarks of a ⁓ Infinity Ward title. And it's, you know, basically to paraphrase, it's, you know, a lot of shit at the end of the muzzle, you know, where you can't see. I don't know if you saw Brax's video, and people are like, well, he's iron sides. He should have an optic. Buddy, I hate to break it to you. He's playing the beta, which you do not get custom weapons in. You and either way. You should still be able to see what you're fucking shooting at, no? So there's that. They always have like just nonsense and clutter at the end of the barrel and and and make it hard to see and what you're shooting. you know, and the other thing is is they have a fast TTK with like movement penalties, which are very frustrating. ⁓ you know, in in general. And I mean, that I feel like that's kind of what we got the second week. Even though they said they made adjustments to the TTK, I sure felt like I got hit markers a ton and got deleted.
SuboneKD: Well, yeah, I mean, they made adjustments to the TTK by nerfing all of the guns, except for shotguns and marksman rifles, which is why the only guns you should be using are a shotgun or a marksman rifle. And you should either be standing at the back with a marksman rifle, running around with a marksman rifle with no optic on it or running with a shotgun, which by the way, don't get me wrong on, on the, on the itty bitty, teeny tiny yellow polka dot bikini maps we have.
J007tv: Who would want to play a beta that way?
SuboneKD: is fun because hopping around and one shotting somebody in the fucking nuts only to hear the proximity check go off about another son of a bitch with a shotgun. So I mean, you know, there's positive things to it.
J007tv: Yeah. Well it It was it was out of hand. Like so I played yesterday and dude, at one point I think there was like four or five matches in a row where really all it seemed like every death I had was from somebody fucking quickscoping with either that marksman rifle or that Vulcan. And it was and and what's irritating about that and and I honestly I believe quickscoping is a skill. It's not easy to do. Not everyone can do it. ⁓ But it's frustrating when you're putting rounds into somebody and then they're able to just quickscope you one tap and you're dead. Like the the disparity there, I think, is what's really frustrating to me about that.
SuboneKD: Mm-hmm.
J007tv: I tweeted that one time under somebody in FaZe's thing. And boy, if you think that that whole fucking community didn't come out to ⁓ come after me, ⁓ my God. It was worse than my doctor disrespect thing from a couple of weeks ago.
SuboneKD: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. If they so okay, let's let's let me back up because when they say they mess with the TT when they say they changed the TTK what they actually did is they changed all of the they nerfed guns is what they did. They didn't give more health. So they they nerfed the guns which was one way to do it. However, you have to remember that marksman rifles sniper rifles and shotguns all one shot. within their intended ranges, right? And marksman rifle ranges aren't exactly, you know, constrained by map size. And so when you have these marksman rifles, you can't nerf ARs and expect to be able to compete with marksman rifles because again, it's call of duty. There's no such thing as flinch. ⁓
J007tv: There is what I'm getting shot at trying to snipe. I got all kinds of fucking flinch. On anything, dude, it doesn't matter.
SuboneKD: Not on marksman rifles. Marksman rifles, marksman rifles carry aim assist. ⁓ Marksman rifles do, sniper rifles do not. So the aim assist will generally counteract most of the flinch. So you can still get a center mass shot off usually if you're getting shot as long as you keep moving and you don't stand still. If you plant your feet, you're going to get... ...taught. but you know it is what it is. yeah, sniper rifles are definitely doable. ⁓ Yeah, I don't know. It's just... They balanced it by nerfing automatics, which of course just removes them from the viable weapons pool. And everybody adapts by just running shotguns. Which don't get me wrong, if you're the only one in a small map running a shotgun, it's a blast, because it just pisses everybody off. But if you're trying to run an SMG or an AR, and you're going toe-to-toe with somebody who one-shots, and they just have to be close enough. Like you're going to lose a lot of that. And, and as a result, the people that do run SMGs were running in groups of three or four on a six person team. I don't think I fought one person at a time unless they happened to get killed by some, you know, their partners were being killed by somebody else. But like almost every single fight was one V three, one V four. And then, and it wasn't like they just, ran into their spawn and there they were. It's like they are running as a pack. almost exclusively. So it just destroyed the enjoyment of it. And Warzone was worse. ⁓ Last weekend, Warzone beta came out and they definitely they definitely messed with not only the weapon balance, the aim assist in Warzone was radically changed. ⁓ To the point where was like I went I started going back and forth between the two modes. just to feel the difference. And war zone was just felt miserable to play because not only are, you know, so it's like, again, a lot of players overcame the fact that they now had a harder time staying on target and hitting their shots because of the aim assist changes. They just said, okay, well, we'll just run as a squad. And again, You're one V fouring an entire squad that are so close together. Brax posted a video of this. That was pretty much how I ran into it because I don't have anybody on at those hours. ⁓ where it's just like four guys piling through a doorway, just absolutely annihilating you. And it's like, cool. And then you regain. And when you try to get a new gun, you run into a different squad of four guys altogether. running through the door, pile driving it. It was, it was.
J007tv: There there were a couple matches like that for me too.
SuboneKD: I went on one match because I had three teammates that just bowled in Spanish and then two of them quit. And I won one and seven before the first circle closed because everywhere you went to land, there was a squad and there was never more than or never fewer than three of them together. Like together, not like.
J007tv: Yep. So
SuboneKD: ⁓ you're on with the longer
J007tv: Well I do
SuboneKD: Them.
J007tv: Yeah. Yeah. You know, I I went on a run like that when I first started playing because I played the beta, ⁓ the the resurgence beta. You know, I'm not a resurgence player, and I remember hearing myself say like two or three times, I don't know why anyone likes this fucking mode. Like I I you can't regain, dude. You can't, you know, like fucking first of all, I feel like that map feels a little small while it's not a terrible map. It it just feels kind of confined. Even when you try to drop on the outside and you know, just kind of loot up and get some weapons and stuff like that. Like, dude, it it was I I had at least two matches like that. And then we then I ended up putting it together and we got some kills and and a couple wins in a row and everything. But like, holy shit, dude. It you it people were stacking, like I mean, they're doing that in multiplayer too. Really bad.
SuboneKD: ⁓ yeah. Well, and it was, ⁓
J007tv: Yeah. Yeah. Dude, nothing pisses me off more than to get killed by somebody and then it spawns me in front of them again so they can kill me again. Like that shit happened several times. Or if I kill somebody and it spawns them behind me.
SuboneKD: Yeah, weekend two felt better. often as I
J007tv: Right. Yeah, it wasn't ⁓ it wasn't bad.
SuboneKD: but
J007tv: Why the fuck would you not want to hear footsteps? I don't understand the logic there. Well, that's why, dude, when they put ninja in the last game as a perk or whatever, or dead silence or whatever the fuck, dude, I I started what I started w just listening to my music when I play. I yeah, everybody's
SuboneKD: Mm-hmm. Yeah, what's the what's the point, right? Like you don't the screen So, that's
J007tv: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I won't do that in Warzone though. I won't do that in Warzone or Resurgence. I I don't have my music on there. Yeah. Yeah, I don't need the rest of it either. I I just want to hear gunshots and footsteps too and and everything. So all right. So I I've seen a few of your tweets. Are you ⁓ how are you feeling about Modern Warfare four now after you've played two weekends of the beta? ⁓ shit. You're not even gonna buy it at launch? Mm-hmm. I mean maybe it w
SuboneKD: It's
J007tv: Well well, so I actually I just submitted for my PTO for the October twenty-third. I'm taking off launch day. And ⁓ you know, ⁓ what's awesome is is now my kids are at on a four-day school week, so I don't have to deal with taking to school or picking up or anything. So I can get up, go get my workout done, and then hop on the fucking game and be on the game all day. Yeah, and that's that's that's what I'm gonna do. I mean, I I'm planning, so my feeling is is
SuboneKD: Okay, nice. by the day, love it.
J007tv: Despite everything I said, after two years of Trey Arc, which I don't hate Treyarch, but after two years of that, this is kind of a welcome change for me. ⁓ especially because I think it's gonna get more of my friends back on the game. You know? And ⁓ I mean, are there things that I've I don't like about it? For sure there are. And I'm definitely going to voice those. So just FYI, the stop complaining crowd, y'all. Like I've told you several times, you can kiss my ass. I'm gonna tell you how I feel about the game. If you don't like it, hit the fucking mute button. Something. But no, I mean, I think I I'm looking forward to it. I mean, I still would rate it as a seven out of a 10. you know, it was a it was a decent experience. I mean, I again, I felt mostly like the things that frustrated me were like getting so many hit markers just to get absolutely fucking deleted by the same gun that I'm using.
SuboneKD: ⁓ But I couldn't finish a game. ⁓ whatever.
J007tv: Yeah, that note is legit. What up, JT? Yeah. Well, I I think that a lot of their issues though. I mean, honestly, a lot of the issues come from just the way ⁓ Infinity Ward like their their mindset on things, to be honest. Cause I think Chad's right. Like technically, like I didn't see a lot of glitches or a lot of bugs with it. It it's just their philosophy. It's their philosophy on what they do with, you know.
SuboneKD: Bye. No, but it functioned properly.
J007tv: All the junk at the end of the barrel, a fast TTK, you know, mina movement penalties, like not being able to reload while I'm sprinting. ⁓ my god, that pisses me off so fucking bad. it's something that pissed me off. No, you still can't fucking do it.
SuboneKD: ⁓ which they didn't So, but,
J007tv: Do you tell me? Hey, now show me the aim assist for all those titles. Mm mm.
SuboneKD: probably
J007tv: It's we it was weaker w aim assists with a faster T T K, right? Weaker aim assist, faster T T K. And fucking now you got aim assists where you can aim with no fucking thumbs and a fast T T K. That sucks. I never said it wasn't there. I said it wasn't as sticky.
SuboneKD: which didn't get there. But aim assist. All of those things,
J007tv: Buddy, that's what I just said.
SuboneKD: for all intents and purposes.
J007tv: If it Aim assist, yes, but when you have other settings like you just mentioned and other things that help you stay on target, it's more or less the same goddamn thing. We're getting into fucking semantics. Peep the shooting is more straight now than it was then. So having a fast
SuboneKD: But no, it's fundamentally different. And is that hertz polling board and... ⁓
J007tv: Well It does it the it doesn't matter. That's semantics. Buddy, that's the semantics of the whole thing. It it it doesn't matter because if you don't have all that and a fast TTK back in the day, not as big of a deal. If you have all that and a fast T T K now, that's a fucking problem, is it not?
SuboneKD: thing, the aiming.
J007tv: 'Cause you're dying faster 'cause the people can shoot. I don't know about you, dude, but I don't feel like I'm really fucking evading a whole lot of shots anymore. Not on this beta, I didn't.
SuboneKD: Like
J007tv: You know. You know what s sucks.
SuboneKD: And to Yankee's
J007tv: I didn't change anything hardly at all. I I had to go in in the middle of the first match. I'm like, God damn, I'm moving slow as hell and change my FOV, you know, ⁓ from 95 to 120 or whatever. But I didn't have to change anything. I don't know why, but I I I felt like like I did go in and look, and my sensitivity was the same on this game as it was on Black Ops. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. I think it might have. I didn't have to change anything. But to your point, yeah, there's a hell of a lot more settings and and different things you can click to help you shoot now compared to what we had back in the day. That is one that's factual. You know, you just said.
SuboneKD: might have. Yeah. And even the what we ⁓ had.
J007tv: yeah, there's less latency, more precision. They want to have everybody, everyone is looking for an advantage. What is it that they said? If you and it's obviously not cheating, but it's like if you if you're not cheating, you're not trying. If you're not trying to maximize your advantages through the settings, then you're not you're not really fucking trying. You know? ⁓ but yeah, no, I think well, and the other thing is too, is I mean, I don't really remember the aim assist thing even being a conversation until 2019. And that was when they forced crossplat, you know, and then then it became more of like.
SuboneKD: Jumbo Joe Thornton.
J007tv: a mainstream conversation. And that's how you know COD is also back because if there people are talking about fucking aim assist and matchmaking and and then you throw casual playlists in there now. We're fucking back, baby.
SuboneKD: Ha ha ha ha ha ⁓
J007tv: They're at a disadvantage, Jay. I was gonna go back and play mouse and key on this game. There ain't no fucking way I'm doing that now. No way. They they should just have input based matchmaking, problem solved.
SuboneKD: aim assist.
J007tv: Dude, dude, I my son is on mouse and key. I'll walk in there and watch him play. He's just in there shitting on kids with that mouse. Dude, it's pretty awesome. He's getting really good at it.
SuboneKD: Well, a lot of And struggles,
J007tv: Yeah. But those are my people. And and and those are my people. You will hear no MK slander from me. After spending four months of doing that every single day, I'll never complain about mouse and key players ever again. They're my people. Fuck all you controller players, is all I'm gonna say.
SuboneKD: ⁓
J007tv: You just laid out on me, you son of a bitch.
SuboneKD: Now, I just figured I'd actually look and see how long have I been playing first
J007tv: But you're a roller player like me now, buddy.
SuboneKD: I still go back and forth.
J007tv: You you you play mouse and key on Call of Duty. I'm talking about Call of Duty. I don't care about other games.
SuboneKD: ⁓ yeah.
J007tv: But but no, I I I thought I was thinking about trying it, but then I'm like, no fucking way, I'm not doing it. I'm already struggle. I already struggle enough, you know, as it is. Why the fuck would I go and do that? And put myself at a disadvantage on purpose. You know. By the way, my pings were pretty good, pretty solid this weekend and last. Never really lagged. I felt like I had mostly good latency. I mean, there were a few times where I'm like, I'm already around the corner. How am I getting fucking shot? You know, and then you see the kill cam or whatever. Right. Which aren't you right kinda in the middle of that anyway? Like in it about is it are you closer to LA or are you closer to
SuboneKD: Yeah. So Did tell someone to go
J007tv: Sure. Did my son just
SuboneKD: which has like the one side. and there's like a roof on it.
J007tv: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. ⁓
SuboneKD: And there's out and
J007tv: Mm-hmm. My kid caught a two week comms band yesterday or the day before. Yep.
SuboneKD: was like, ⁓ I'm done. Nice. So I'll take a peek.
J007tv: I just uninstall I uninstalled the beta already. I won't be playing it today. I don't I hit thirty. I don't really care.
SuboneKD: I just want to see if they made a change.
J007tv: I'm not anywhere close, I don't think.
SuboneKD: I don't think so,
J007tv: gonna play it for sure and I ⁓ you know again and that's with with that said I like I said I'll still criticize that game when I need to you know but I'm gonna play it ⁓ you know I I don't really have anything else to play. ⁓ I don't know although I may give Wardogs a try when it comes out. We'll have to see about that. I keep hearing a
SuboneKD: ⁓ I gotta install And so I got
J007tv: Yeah, hear a bunch of good things about that. That's cool. But no, I, you know, I I I still feel the same way. I give it I give it a seven out of a 10 from a beta standpoint. ⁓ I thought it was relatively smooth overall, not a lot of glitches or issues. ⁓ the aesthetics of the game, I like it. Like the colors, like I said last week, like they popped on the on those maps, especially the the ones where you're like in the Korean Times Square type area. I think Silkworm is what it was. Like I thought that was a good looking map.
SuboneKD: Mm-hmm. than usual.
J007tv: Even that hard point on that map is is rough too. But yeah, that be that that Bravo spawn there, right w right there where it is is fucking terrible. It it it it really is. So but yeah, like I I I I thought it was ⁓ I thought it was a overall a decent beta. I mean, I'm still I'm still planning on buying it. ⁓ you know, we'll just have to see what kind of matchmaking fuckery like that was a big topic of the week. And and and I mean honestly.
SuboneKD: Yeah.
J007tv: I thought all of it was sweaty. I played the closed playlist a little bit. I played the open playlist. It was all fucking sweaty. You know, and
SuboneKD: I don't
J007tv: I d I think that's probably part of it. Yeah, a lot of people quit. So the only ones that are playing it are people who'd been playing it all year and and everything. I mean, I've noticed like my last month on Black Ops seven specifically. It's it's been harder the last month than it was before that. You know, ⁓ I find myself just getting shit on a lot more than than usual. ⁓ I'm still r running, you know, positive numbers ⁓ for the most part, but but yeah, and I I'll tell you on this beta, I sure as fuck didn't.
SuboneKD: Nice.
J007tv: Dude, there are some games where like, dude, I I I think there was like two games in a row, I d I was like one and seven off rip for both. And I'm just like, golly, man, it's hard to come back from that. Inflation.
SuboneKD: in
J007tv: I never got around to trying it. I wish I had. I told you I was no, I so ⁓ Saturday that's all I played was ⁓ or not Saturday, but Friday, that's all I played. ⁓ I played like two games of the multi, and then Jigzy was ready to play some resurgence. So we we played that and I I was questioning my life choices the first two games or so, just getting absolutely dunked on. ⁓ because I'm not a resurgence player. I'm not, I'm terrible at it. and then the ⁓ yesterday when we played, it was all multi.
SuboneKD: the whole
J007tv: I I only played for like three hours yesterday though, so There we
SuboneKD: he was
J007tv: Yeah, yeah, I mean it j if it just felt ridiculously fast at times for me. Could have been a skill issue. I mean, Lord knows I have ⁓ you know. ⁓ but yeah, I mean it it felt really fast. I mean, obviously, like we were talking earlier, TDK doesn't fucking matter at all when you get one tapped with a marksman rifle anyway. You know what I mean? Like so.
SuboneKD: But. Yep. When the, when the, when the
J007tv: I may or may not have teabagged and shot some bodies yesterday because of people running that and the shotgun. ⁓ yeah. So anyway, but but no, I thought overall, dude, I I think it's gonna be a decent year. Hopefully they they don't do anything fucking crazy. I'm anxious to see about the new big map for Warzone, but it's like
SuboneKD: Well, as you should, but
J007tv: I just wonder what they're gonna do with the playlist, man. I mean, did you see how everybody and and honestly, dude, I kind of if I was ⁓ like wanting to play resurgence, I'd lose my shit over this too. Where they did fucking, I think like casual was on for like a whole day and like you couldn't even play regular resurgence. I didn't load it up because of that. I was like, fuck that, I'm not contributing to their numbers.
SuboneKD: Mm-hmm. The end I was playing, they ⁓
J007tv: Make ⁓ both available. 'Cause people are pussies. So what do you think I'm gonna say about that?
SuboneKD: there will be nobody there. Like, mean,
J007tv: No, no, I know, I know. But the problem is is it's one of those things, right? Like, I I'm not disagreeing with you, but you know, when they say that perception is reality, I feel like a a lot of times perception couldn't be further from reality because again, statistically, let's not people act like that's gonna happen every single match. It happens one match, fucking take your lump, move on, or leave the goddamn lobby. You know what I mean? Like Jesus. It's not like it's gonna happen every fucking match.
SuboneKD: Well, they've left the lobby. And
J007tv: Well, you know what, dude? At the end of the day, d I think what you're gonna have happen now is if if they keep with this casual nonsense, you're not gonna be able to tell a difference between the two because the sweats are just gonna say fuck you and they're gonna go ruin the casual experience too. They're going to. I don't know who
SuboneKD: whatever ⁓ Next. Yeah, I couldn't have been farther
J007tv: Next Even getting that. I mean, J-Rock will tell you he's been in there when I've been playing solos, and I'm like, that has to be a fucking bot. Like, there is no way this is a human. No way. You know? And and it's it's crazy.
SuboneKD: I think that because they're
J007tv: How though? How? Well, if they're bad at the game, they're gonna be bad anyway. Just fucking, you know? Shut your ass up, Jay. Fucking asshole.
SuboneKD: could it. ⁓
J007tv: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Pull pull that back up again. Hang on a minute. Hang on a fucking minute here. Of course it was dead for two days. Those are the days we were off, dummy.
SuboneKD: It was dead for two days. Laughter ⁓
J007tv: Wait a minute. I'm pulling up a calendar. I'm like looking, I'm like, wait, that's fucking Wednesday and Thursday. Of course it is. No.
SuboneKD: I expected you to roll your eyes at that a little harder than you did. But ⁓
J007tv: dead for two days. I thought so I I don't even know by the way, like do stream chart steam charts matter? Do they not? Like are we ⁓ I don't know anymore. 'Cause
SuboneKD: It's the only data we interesting.
J007tv: It So
SuboneKD: so
J007tv: You know why? I think because of the level cap.
SuboneKD: Multiplayer does not And by nobody, I mean most
J007tv: yeah, I hadn't even thought about that. That's too bad. I like it.
SuboneKD: when
J007tv: Well that's You know something else that I noticed, ⁓ over that that that trend that you showed? Way more resurgence players than regular big map players in the beta.
SuboneKD: going
J007tv: Buddy. There was no big map in the fucking beta dude. I that was a joke. Gotcha, bitch. No. No. You know what? You may be right. I don't know. You may be right because the way they've fucking more or less ignored and treated ⁓ Big Map like the bastard stepchild for the last two or three years, you may be right because their dad ⁓ says otherwise. You may be right.
SuboneKD: I think the think BigMap is in a rough spot.
J007tv: Yeah, I don't know. I still would give my left nut. I I legitimately would. If I could see on a regular basis dollars spent versus hours play. That that's the one piece of data that I covet more than any other piece of data ever. I think we lost sub son of a Can you guys hear me? Appreciate it. But yeah, that's the data that I would love to see. I would love to see hours played versus dollars spent. And I'll tell you why. Part of it's because I suspect that the whole theory that the guys that play three hours a week, the casuals or whatever, the ones that drive the dollars spent, I suspect that that is not truly the case. It's just the way I feel like it ⁓ the way I feel about it. ⁓ because I to me it's hard it's it it's a hard concept to swallow that somebody's gonna spend a lot of money on something that they don't even care enough to play a lot, right? That that that would be the equivalent. I haven't played golf since twenty nineteen, but that'd be the equivalent of me starting to go to the driving range and then buying new clubs, new shoes, new everything, and I hadn't even played. Or that I'm only gonna play the game once every four months. Like that would not make fucking sense. Well, ⁓ the other thing is too a literate and and I'm not the only one that's ever said this, they need to separate the two, man. Stop let Warzone be its own thing. Let multi be its own thing and stand on its own merits. Keep Warzone free and stop tying the two together because I feel like that's a large part of the problem, in my opinion. Yeah, but the stupid thing is is they don't have to. When knocked him offline again, that sucks. Yeah, the stupid thing is they don't have to. I don't I don't feel like they really have to. They they don't have to depend on that. If they just did if if they did good content for Warzone, right? And good like good cont like Warzone could pay for itself or whatever if they were doing good content for there, and if they did good content for multiplayer. That's all they'd have to do, man. Jesus. No, I ain't never spent. No, sir. $2,000 on skins? Fucking hell. No way. Yeah. But yeah, Sub is telling me to go ahead and call it here because his ⁓ wind knocked him offline. But but no, ⁓ I don't know if anybody ⁓ did you guys watch the Netflix thing for ⁓ GTA? Dude, it's actually pretty cool, ⁓ J-Rock. I I think it was pretty cool. It showed a lot about the game. It kind of makes me sad that it's not gonna be on PC off rip. Cause like I legitimately want to play that game. Like I I liked the combat, the driving, like just everything I saw. That I think that game for the people who love Grand Theft Auto, I think that game is going to be legit for them. Graphically it looked beautiful. No, it's there's not spoilers. It's like a little side mission that they run you through on there. Dude, seriously, there's no fucking spoilers. I mean you f it's no more spoilers than what you already know about it. And it just shows a little bit of a little bit of the combat and a lot of the like driving and stuff. Yeah, my wife and I actually just watched that right before I came in here to do this podcast. But yeah, I ⁓ I'm looking I'm looking forward to I am looking forward to Modern Warfare. I I I really hope that it brings my guys back because it was nice actually having a squad to play with ⁓ over the weekend and the first weekend. Like that was that was really nice having that because for the better part of a year and a half I've pretty much run solo and for multiplayer that's a miserable experience. And While I like playing solos on Warzone, I still like running with a squad too. ⁓ just disappointed that I probably I don't know we'll probably never get another like Black Ops Royale type of mode, which kind of sucks. But you know, again, I I don't feel like they ever really supported that mode the way they should have, but that's neither here nor there, I guess. But I I'm not gonna sit here and say it's the best game ever. I thought the one mission that I played in the campaign was actually kind of fun. ⁓ I really liked the kill block mode. ⁓ that was fun as shit. ⁓ I I could I could see myself actually just just playing that on some nights where it's like that's all I play. Why are they getting rid of it? Jay, they never supported it really, to be honest. Yeah, they rolled it out, but it never had all the squad sizes. And if it did, not for very long that I can really remember. And now it's only it's quads only. So guys like myself can't even really play that mode. They took away solos. So now the data is gonna say that nobody played it. So there you go. You know, so yeah, I don't I don't think we'll get that ⁓ and I thought that mode was awesome. And it it's no surprise that my numbers are better on that mode than regular war zone. Yeah, and I don't know why they tend to do that with the playlists. It's very frustrating to me. You know, like have all four squad sizes for resurgence and ranked. Have all four squad sizes for regular BR and ranked. Have all four squad sizes or yeah, you probably don't need solos and casuals, but have trios and duo or quads and casuals or whatever. ⁓ and and and you know, that's it. I agree, but they'll never do it. Yeah, they'll they'll never do it. And I think whoever thought that bringing that mode to Warzone, whoever came up with that, should be loaded up in a rocket ship and fired straight into the sun. Cause they've done irreparable damage to Warzone and the player experience. P a lot of people just don't know it yet. Yeah, we're definitely stuck with that mode illiterate. I And again, that's why I opposed it from the day they released it. I thought it was a bad idea. They should have had a training mode where it like locked you in, like certain if you're above a certain rank or a certain KD, you are not getting in there. That is for people who are trying to learn the game. I mean, I hope so, but dude, I thought that about Greyzone. I thought that about X Defiant. I thought that about my favorite COD gun of all time. It would be the ACR. Yeah, I played Grey Zone. I we actually interviewed Rick ⁓ from Mad Finger Games on the podcast. The only reason I stopped playing Grey Zone is because ⁓ I stopped having people to play it with. But yeah, the A the ACR ⁓ slash kilo are my two favorite gun or that's my favorite gun. What about you, Jay? I forget what I even joined. I joined the one that was more like Milsim-ish or like private military company, probably Mithras. I think that's who I joined. You join a new one every white well dude, I haven't played that game in over a year. But ⁓ anyway, I did complete the story for ⁓ Arkham City, but I ⁓ I still have so much side shit to do. So I'll be I'll be playing that. And then eventually I'm gonna play Ark Arkham Knight. Used to love the U the Ump 45. Yeah, I that and so my favorite AR is that Kilo slash ACR. and for SMG, it's the Modern Warfare 2019 ⁓ MP5. Marksman is the EBR. That was my jam, bro. Until they nerfed it into the ground. But yeah, guys, I'm gonna go ahead and call it. ⁓ I will I'm gonna be live on my channel ⁓ tomorrow. I'm gonna have my fantasy football draft. So probably be more of like a just talking stream if you want to come by and kick it. But appreciate everybody for stopping through. yeah, we'll get this thing ⁓ going. We'll be back live again. ⁓ I don't know if we'll be on next Monday or not because it's a holiday. So just stay tuned. We'll update Twitter. But y'all have a ⁓ have a good night.
SuboneKD: Well, they never win. It's just...
J007tv: You know? Jesus Christ. Dude, I'm so fucking sick of the matchmaking. We're gonna talk about that shit today.
SuboneKD: It's like playing life under SPMM. We are gonna talk about that shit today.
J007tv: Damn it, Elon, you mother f-
SuboneKD: I forgot to update the titles before I hit live. Go sub. You're doing so good. The link. Click the link, you dumbass. Hold on everybody. We're getting set. Hope you guys are doing well. Hope everybody's ready to go. All these titles are wrong. I had a cool title written for this thing and I forgot to put it in any of our streams so now everything is wrong. I gotta go fix it before I can get going. Hang in there.
J007tv: What's up, Chad?
SuboneKD: Which suck less. Appreciate if you would. Cool. Switched. And then. Fixed Twitter.
J007tv: Did you change the number?
SuboneKD: I did 125.
J007tv: On Twitch or on Twitter it shows one twenty four.
SuboneKD: Well, I haven't fixed ⁓ what part of on to Twitter did we not think about?
J007tv: I wasn't listening, bro. I was saving say fucking sharing my own shit, man. God damn. You know what I mean?
SuboneKD: me smalls.
J007tv: Do see they're doing a show with the original cast from that? Called Dug Out Dads. It's gonna be, I think, on ⁓ YouTube.
SuboneKD: predicted skin. ⁓ we'll see. I just switch profiles on this. Okay, I'll fix it and post everybody on Twitter just so you know it's wrong.
J007tv: Well, hit the jingle, let's get this thing poppin', baby.
SuboneKD: Let's do that.
J007tv: Welcome everybody to episode 125 of the Slightly Above Average Gaming Podcast. I know over here on Twitter it shows episode 124. This is the first time Sub One's ever tweeted anything. So he he kind of messed that up just a little bit.
SuboneKD: Fuck you too.
J007tv: I'm just kidding, man. What's up, dude?
SuboneKD: ⁓ not much. We were just bitching about data centers a minute ago and how it's one of those things where
J007tv: Yep.
SuboneKD: God stop noise. But yeah, otherwise, kind of the same I had first of my drafts yesterday.
J007tv: Yeah? How many leagues are you in?
SuboneKD: So. Or I think?
J007tv: That's too much.
SuboneKD: I have my actual league that I care about. It's full of people I know. I have a creator league that I'm in. I have the BFG league and I have a work league. That's a lot. Work league though.
J007tv: Well, I am now in the BFG League, apparently.
SuboneKD: sweet. The work league was get this 16 picks. Which is not horribly unusual. Plus flex. ⁓ So, so it's a full roster plus plus flex. And I shit you not there are 14 people in this league.
J007tv: That's too much.
SuboneKD: I just don't know. I just don't know. Like, we're in like round five and I'm like, I just auto draft because half these people are still in college. They haven't even fucking signed yet. Like, I'm just out of people to pick. So.
J007tv: Wow. Yeah, I I I'm only in two. I've been in one league for like fifteen years. ⁓ it it's started with a bunch of us that played Xbox together. Now there's only two of us left. And like I told you before, dude, the fun thing is it's a league full of fucking Philadelphia Eagles fans. So they're gonna love my fucking name this year. Yeah, they're gonna love my name this year. But ⁓ I have the draft for that tomorrow and then I j I
SuboneKD: So here's shit talk gets to go for ever. Love it.
J007tv: Gonna be joining the BFG League. Silencer sent it to me and I clicked join the league and it took me to the app, but it shows my other league in there. So I gotta figure that out.
SuboneKD: you should be able to swipe, your ESPN, you should be able to swipe back and forth between leagues.
J007tv: Yeah. ⁓ is that how you do that?
SuboneKD: Yep. Like on the home screen, you just go, and then you can be like, I'm losing this league switch. ⁓ my day's better. ⁓ so yeah, no, I, posted my, my draft results from, from last night and I'm just like, there's a little rough picking. So, and I was picking seventh. So it's kind of like seventh out of 14 with just, ⁓
J007tv: Yeah, no. ⁓ Yeah. That's that's that's awful.
SuboneKD: ⁓ that was rough.
J007tv: Here's here's here's why I think that either the very first spot or the last spot are the two best spots, especially in a snake draft. While you get the first spot, you gotta go 10 spots and then another nine back to you. You'll get two more. So you'll get you'll get one pick, it'll go back down and then back to you get another pick. You know what I'm saying? You'll the last spot, you can get two picks in a row.
SuboneKD: Yeah, no, I get, I get it. It just, yeah. Well, in the middle you get, you get a better balance. But in the last spot, you basically are skipping every other round. So you only get, you get the first pick, but then you only get two third place picks because everybody who's second place, second round is gone unless you have somebody who screws up and lets somebody drop. ⁓
J007tv: But in the middle you get fucked.
SuboneKD: Like, you know, my home's dropping to the 14th round in my league.
J007tv: You know, man, it never fails. I get people like that and they have a dog shit year. So I ha dude.
SuboneKD: He's gonna have a horrible year. He's gonna have a whole he can't run anymore. He tours ACL and he's not back 100 % He's gonna be a pocket passer and he sucks at that
J007tv: I had I had Lamar Jackson, I think it was ⁓ two years ago or after no, I had him last year and the year before he threw for like four thousand yards and got a bunch of touchdowns. He didn't do shit last year. Every time, every fucking time I get somebody like that, that's what happens, or they get hurt or whatever.
SuboneKD: It's a crap shoot. It's a crap shoot. It's gambling. Let's be honest. It's just statistical gambling.
J007tv: It really is. It it is. But it's fun as hell. I love it. I mean
SuboneKD: But we, but, but we, as, as humans get to act like we're applying skill to making decisions on something we have no control over that, that whose outcome is completely random. And so, you know, we get to have to have fun, right? And then we get to do things like, I really need this team to score like nine touchdowns, but they can't win the game. And, ⁓ and the other team's quarterback can only get to two touchdowns and under a hundred yards. So it's got to be all running backs, but it has to be the second string running back while the first string running back on the other team does most of the, you know, can't touch the ball either. Right. And you're like, all right.
J007tv: Yeah. Dude, I I I gotta tell you, if I I can't tell you how many times over 15 years that the Cowboys have fucked me in one way or another in the playoffs. Either A, I have a Cowboy player who doesn't do what they're supposed to do, or B, I have a running back in Legarrett Blunt, who's going against the Cowboys who hadn't been able to stop the run all year, and they held him to like 56 yards, and I ended up losing in the finals because of that. Like it never fails. They do the exact
SuboneKD: and they fund it.
J007tv: opposite of what I need him to do. And and I'll take cowboy players. Like if they're the towards the top of their position and that's kind of what's left, I'll do it. But I don't do it on purpose. Like I'm not a homer like that. I want to win. The only thing is I'll never take Eagles players ever again. I took two of their receivers last year, knowing who their quarterback is, I should have never done that. Yes, it was a fucking mistake. Sorry, Jordan.
SuboneKD: You know- that's a mistake. Unless you're like deep, unless you're, unless you're deep. But I, yeah. You know what I think? You know what I think fantasy football needs that would really make, you know, ⁓ manager retention better.
J007tv: If you say skill based matchmaking, I'm gonna kill you, bro.
SuboneKD: It should dynamically adjust your schedule based on your skill.
J007tv: Yeah. Jeez, O Pete, dude. It's crazy how like that's been such a big topic over this ⁓ over the beta. Let's go ahead and just get into it.
SuboneKD: Ha ha ha. It's still, it's still a big topic over the beta people, you know, it's, the, it's the thing everyone still wants to talk about.
J007tv: Yeah, ⁓ but So all right, we'll we'll talk about the matchmaking here in little bit. Overall, what what at now that we've had two weekends of the beta, what what are your thoughts? What are your likes and dislikes? Start with the likes, because I feel like that's probably gonna be a shorter list.
SuboneKD: Well, I feel like we need to split this into two sides of it because there's two weekends to the beta. The closed weekend was last week. We talked about that in the pod previously, last episode. And then there was last weekend where they made a lot of fundamental changes and a lot of adjustments. ⁓ And so it does in some ways play completely different. So I feel like a lot of things need to be kind of put in that, ⁓ are we talking about weekend one or weekend two kind of thing?
J007tv: Uh-huh.
SuboneKD: But if I were to summarize weekend one, it was fine. It wasn't like, you know, it felt like a return to a modern warfare game. felt like how modern warfare games have played forever, ⁓ which I think is, you know, generally to me, it's a positive. prefer modern warfare over black ops as anybody who's tuned into this channel or my Twitter account for five minutes or more knows. ⁓ And then weekend two, they fucked it all up and now it plays like dog shit. And the only two guns you can use are a marksman rifle or a shotgun. Everything else is fucking trash and you don't need to bother.
J007tv: Mm. It was all ⁓ fours in my lobbies. That's all pretty much anybody was using.
SuboneKD: ⁓ and you need three people to play with you because you have to run as a three or four stack. Otherwise you will just be done by three shotguns to the face.
J007tv: So, you know, I tweeted this this week. There's the hallmarks of a ⁓ Infinity Ward title. And it's, you know, basically to paraphrase, it's, you know, a lot of shit at the end of the muzzle, you know, where you can't see. I don't know if you saw Brax's video, and people are like, well, he's iron sides. He should have an optic. Buddy, I hate to break it to you. He's playing the beta, which you do not get custom weapons in. You and either way. You should still be able to see what you're fucking shooting at, no? So there's that. They always have like just nonsense and clutter at the end of the barrel and and and make it hard to see and what you're shooting. you know, and the other thing is is they have a fast TTK with like movement penalties, which are very frustrating. ⁓ you know, in in general. And I mean, that I feel like that's kind of what we got the second week. Even though they said they made adjustments to the TTK, I sure felt like I got hit markers a ton and got deleted.
SuboneKD: Well, yeah, I mean, they made adjustments to the TTK by nerfing all of the guns, except for shotguns and marksman rifles, which is why the only guns you should be using are a shotgun or a marksman rifle. And you should either be standing at the back with a marksman rifle, running around with a marksman rifle with no optic on it or running with a shotgun, which by the way, don't get me wrong on, on the, on the itty bitty, teeny tiny yellow polka dot bikini maps we have.
J007tv: Who would want to play a beta that way?
SuboneKD: is fun because hopping around and one shotting somebody in the fucking nuts only to hear the proximity check go off about another son of a bitch with a shotgun. So I mean, you know, there's positive things to it.
J007tv: Yeah. Well it It was it was out of hand. Like so I played yesterday and dude, at one point I think there was like four or five matches in a row where really all it seemed like every death I had was from somebody fucking quickscoping with either that marksman rifle or that Vulcan. And it was and and what's irritating about that and and I honestly I believe quickscoping is a skill. It's not easy to do. Not everyone can do it. ⁓ But it's frustrating when you're putting rounds into somebody and then they're able to just quickscope you one tap and you're dead. Like the the disparity there, I think, is what's really frustrating to me about that.
SuboneKD: Mm-hmm.
J007tv: I tweeted that one time under somebody in FaZe's thing. And boy, if you think that that whole fucking community didn't come out to ⁓ come after me, ⁓ my God. It was worse than my doctor disrespect thing from a couple of weeks ago.
SuboneKD: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. If they so okay, let's let's let me back up because when they say they mess with the TT when they say they changed the TTK what they actually did is they changed all of the they nerfed guns is what they did. They didn't give more health. So they they nerfed the guns which was one way to do it. However, you have to remember that marksman rifles sniper rifles and shotguns all one shot. within their intended ranges, right? And marksman rifle ranges aren't exactly, you know, constrained by map size. And so when you have these marksman rifles, you can't nerf ARs and expect to be able to compete with marksman rifles because again, it's call of duty. There's no such thing as flinch. ⁓
J007tv: There is what I'm getting shot at trying to snipe. I got all kinds of fucking flinch. On anything, dude, it doesn't matter.
SuboneKD: Not on marksman rifles. Marksman rifles, marksman rifles carry aim assist. ⁓ Marksman rifles do, sniper rifles do not. So the aim assist will generally counteract most of the flinch. So you can still get a center mass shot off usually if you're getting shot as long as you keep moving and you don't stand still. If you plant your feet, you're going to get... ...taught. but you know it is what it is. yeah, sniper rifles are definitely doable. ⁓ Yeah, I don't know. It's just... They balanced it by nerfing automatics, which of course just removes them from the viable weapons pool. And everybody adapts by just running shotguns. Which don't get me wrong, if you're the only one in a small map running a shotgun, it's a blast, because it just pisses everybody off. But if you're trying to run an SMG or an AR, and you're going toe-to-toe with somebody who one-shots, and they just have to be close enough. Like you're going to lose a lot of that. And, and as a result, the people that do run SMGs were running in groups of three or four on a six person team. I don't think I fought one person at a time unless they happened to get killed by some, you know, their partners were being killed by somebody else. But like almost every single fight was one V three, one V four. And then, and it wasn't like they just, ran into their spawn and there they were. It's like they are running as a pack. almost exclusively. So it just destroyed the enjoyment of it. And Warzone was worse. ⁓ Last weekend, Warzone beta came out and they definitely they definitely messed with not only the weapon balance, the aim assist in Warzone was radically changed. ⁓ To the point where was like I went I started going back and forth between the two modes. just to feel the difference. And war zone was just felt miserable to play because not only are, you know, so it's like, again, a lot of players overcame the fact that they now had a harder time staying on target and hitting their shots because of the aim assist changes. They just said, okay, well, we'll just run as a squad. And again, You're one V fouring an entire squad that are so close together. Brax posted a video of this. That was pretty much how I ran into it because I don't have anybody on at those hours. ⁓ where it's just like four guys piling through a doorway, just absolutely annihilating you. And it's like, cool. And then you regain. And when you try to get a new gun, you run into a different squad of four guys altogether. running through the door, pile driving it. It was, it was.
J007tv: There there were a couple matches like that for me too.
SuboneKD: I went on one match because I had three teammates that just bowled in Spanish and then two of them quit. And I won one and seven before the first circle closed because everywhere you went to land, there was a squad and there was never more than or never fewer than three of them together. Like together, not like.
J007tv: Yep. So
SuboneKD: ⁓ you're on with the longer
J007tv: Well I do
SuboneKD: Them.
J007tv: Yeah. Yeah. You know, I I went on a run like that when I first started playing because I played the beta, ⁓ the the resurgence beta. You know, I'm not a resurgence player, and I remember hearing myself say like two or three times, I don't know why anyone likes this fucking mode. Like I I you can't regain, dude. You can't, you know, like fucking first of all, I feel like that map feels a little small while it's not a terrible map. It it just feels kind of confined. Even when you try to drop on the outside and you know, just kind of loot up and get some weapons and stuff like that. Like, dude, it it was I I had at least two matches like that. And then we then I ended up putting it together and we got some kills and and a couple wins in a row and everything. But like, holy shit, dude. It you it people were stacking, like I mean, they're doing that in multiplayer too. Really bad.
SuboneKD: ⁓ yeah. Well, and it was, ⁓
J007tv: Yeah. Yeah. Dude, nothing pisses me off more than to get killed by somebody and then it spawns me in front of them again so they can kill me again. Like that shit happened several times. Or if I kill somebody and it spawns them behind me.
SuboneKD: Yeah, weekend two felt better. often as I
J007tv: Right. Yeah, it wasn't ⁓ it wasn't bad.
SuboneKD: but
J007tv: Why the fuck would you not want to hear footsteps? I don't understand the logic there. Well, that's why, dude, when they put ninja in the last game as a perk or whatever, or dead silence or whatever the fuck, dude, I I started what I started w just listening to my music when I play. I yeah, everybody's
SuboneKD: Mm-hmm. Yeah, what's the what's the point, right? Like you don't the screen So, that's
J007tv: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I won't do that in Warzone though. I won't do that in Warzone or Resurgence. I I don't have my music on there. Yeah. Yeah, I don't need the rest of it either. I I just want to hear gunshots and footsteps too and and everything. So all right. So I I've seen a few of your tweets. Are you ⁓ how are you feeling about Modern Warfare four now after you've played two weekends of the beta? ⁓ shit. You're not even gonna buy it at launch? Mm-hmm. I mean maybe it w
SuboneKD: It's
J007tv: Well well, so I actually I just submitted for my PTO for the October twenty-third. I'm taking off launch day. And ⁓ you know, ⁓ what's awesome is is now my kids are at on a four-day school week, so I don't have to deal with taking to school or picking up or anything. So I can get up, go get my workout done, and then hop on the fucking game and be on the game all day. Yeah, and that's that's that's what I'm gonna do. I mean, I I'm planning, so my feeling is is
SuboneKD: Okay, nice. by the day, love it.
J007tv: Despite everything I said, after two years of Trey Arc, which I don't hate Treyarch, but after two years of that, this is kind of a welcome change for me. ⁓ especially because I think it's gonna get more of my friends back on the game. You know? And ⁓ I mean, are there things that I've I don't like about it? For sure there are. And I'm definitely going to voice those. So just FYI, the stop complaining crowd, y'all. Like I've told you several times, you can kiss my ass. I'm gonna tell you how I feel about the game. If you don't like it, hit the fucking mute button. Something. But no, I mean, I think I I'm looking forward to it. I mean, I still would rate it as a seven out of a 10. you know, it was a it was a decent experience. I mean, I again, I felt mostly like the things that frustrated me were like getting so many hit markers just to get absolutely fucking deleted by the same gun that I'm using.
SuboneKD: ⁓ But I couldn't finish a game. ⁓ whatever.
J007tv: Yeah, that note is legit. What up, JT? Yeah. Well, I I think that a lot of their issues though. I mean, honestly, a lot of the issues come from just the way ⁓ Infinity Ward like their their mindset on things, to be honest. Cause I think Chad's right. Like technically, like I didn't see a lot of glitches or a lot of bugs with it. It it's just their philosophy. It's their philosophy on what they do with, you know.
SuboneKD: Bye. No, but it functioned properly.
J007tv: All the junk at the end of the barrel, a fast TTK, you know, mina movement penalties, like not being able to reload while I'm sprinting. ⁓ my god, that pisses me off so fucking bad. it's something that pissed me off. No, you still can't fucking do it.
SuboneKD: ⁓ which they didn't So, but,
J007tv: Do you tell me? Hey, now show me the aim assist for all those titles. Mm mm.
SuboneKD: probably
J007tv: It's we it was weaker w aim assists with a faster T T K, right? Weaker aim assist, faster T T K. And fucking now you got aim assists where you can aim with no fucking thumbs and a fast T T K. That sucks. I never said it wasn't there. I said it wasn't as sticky.
SuboneKD: which didn't get there. But aim assist. All of those things,
J007tv: Buddy, that's what I just said.
SuboneKD: for all intents and purposes.
J007tv: If it Aim assist, yes, but when you have other settings like you just mentioned and other things that help you stay on target, it's more or less the same goddamn thing. We're getting into fucking semantics. Peep the shooting is more straight now than it was then. So having a fast
SuboneKD: But no, it's fundamentally different. And is that hertz polling board and... ⁓
J007tv: Well It does it the it doesn't matter. That's semantics. Buddy, that's the semantics of the whole thing. It it it doesn't matter because if you don't have all that and a fast TTK back in the day, not as big of a deal. If you have all that and a fast T T K now, that's a fucking problem, is it not?
SuboneKD: thing, the aiming.
J007tv: 'Cause you're dying faster 'cause the people can shoot. I don't know about you, dude, but I don't feel like I'm really fucking evading a whole lot of shots anymore. Not on this beta, I didn't.
SuboneKD: Like
J007tv: You know. You know what s sucks.
SuboneKD: And to Yankee's
J007tv: I didn't change anything hardly at all. I I had to go in in the middle of the first match. I'm like, God damn, I'm moving slow as hell and change my FOV, you know, ⁓ from 95 to 120 or whatever. But I didn't have to change anything. I don't know why, but I I I felt like like I did go in and look, and my sensitivity was the same on this game as it was on Black Ops. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. I think it might have. I didn't have to change anything. But to your point, yeah, there's a hell of a lot more settings and and different things you can click to help you shoot now compared to what we had back in the day. That is one that's factual. You know, you just said.
SuboneKD: might have. Yeah. And even the what we ⁓ had.
J007tv: yeah, there's less latency, more precision. They want to have everybody, everyone is looking for an advantage. What is it that they said? If you and it's obviously not cheating, but it's like if you if you're not cheating, you're not trying. If you're not trying to maximize your advantages through the settings, then you're not you're not really fucking trying. You know? ⁓ but yeah, no, I think well, and the other thing is too, is I mean, I don't really remember the aim assist thing even being a conversation until 2019. And that was when they forced crossplat, you know, and then then it became more of like.
SuboneKD: Jumbo Joe Thornton.
J007tv: a mainstream conversation. And that's how you know COD is also back because if there people are talking about fucking aim assist and matchmaking and and then you throw casual playlists in there now. We're fucking back, baby.
SuboneKD: Ha ha ha ha ha ⁓
J007tv: They're at a disadvantage, Jay. I was gonna go back and play mouse and key on this game. There ain't no fucking way I'm doing that now. No way. They they should just have input based matchmaking, problem solved.
SuboneKD: aim assist.
J007tv: Dude, dude, I my son is on mouse and key. I'll walk in there and watch him play. He's just in there shitting on kids with that mouse. Dude, it's pretty awesome. He's getting really good at it.
SuboneKD: Well, a lot of And struggles,
J007tv: Yeah. But those are my people. And and and those are my people. You will hear no MK slander from me. After spending four months of doing that every single day, I'll never complain about mouse and key players ever again. They're my people. Fuck all you controller players, is all I'm gonna say.
SuboneKD: ⁓
J007tv: You just laid out on me, you son of a bitch.
SuboneKD: Now, I just figured I'd actually look and see how long have I been playing first
J007tv: But you're a roller player like me now, buddy.
SuboneKD: I still go back and forth.
J007tv: You you you play mouse and key on Call of Duty. I'm talking about Call of Duty. I don't care about other games.
SuboneKD: ⁓ yeah.
J007tv: But but no, I I I thought I was thinking about trying it, but then I'm like, no fucking way, I'm not doing it. I'm already struggle. I already struggle enough, you know, as it is. Why the fuck would I go and do that? And put myself at a disadvantage on purpose. You know. By the way, my pings were pretty good, pretty solid this weekend and last. Never really lagged. I felt like I had mostly good latency. I mean, there were a few times where I'm like, I'm already around the corner. How am I getting fucking shot? You know, and then you see the kill cam or whatever. Right. Which aren't you right kinda in the middle of that anyway? Like in it about is it are you closer to LA or are you closer to
SuboneKD: Yeah. So Did tell someone to go
J007tv: Sure. Did my son just
SuboneKD: which has like the one side. and there's like a roof on it.
J007tv: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. ⁓
SuboneKD: And there's out and
J007tv: Mm-hmm. My kid caught a two week comms band yesterday or the day before. Yep.
SuboneKD: was like, ⁓ I'm done. Nice. So I'll take a peek.
J007tv: I just uninstall I uninstalled the beta already. I won't be playing it today. I don't I hit thirty. I don't really care.
SuboneKD: I just want to see if they made a change.
J007tv: I'm not anywhere close, I don't think.
SuboneKD: I don't think so,
J007tv: gonna play it for sure and I ⁓ you know again and that's with with that said I like I said I'll still criticize that game when I need to you know but I'm gonna play it ⁓ you know I I don't really have anything else to play. ⁓ I don't know although I may give Wardogs a try when it comes out. We'll have to see about that. I keep hearing a
SuboneKD: ⁓ I gotta install And so I got
J007tv: Yeah, hear a bunch of good things about that. That's cool. But no, I, you know, I I I still feel the same way. I give it I give it a seven out of a 10 from a beta standpoint. ⁓ I thought it was relatively smooth overall, not a lot of glitches or issues. ⁓ the aesthetics of the game, I like it. Like the colors, like I said last week, like they popped on the on those maps, especially the the ones where you're like in the Korean Times Square type area. I think Silkworm is what it was. Like I thought that was a good looking map.
SuboneKD: Mm-hmm. than usual.
J007tv: Even that hard point on that map is is rough too. But yeah, that be that that Bravo spawn there, right w right there where it is is fucking terrible. It it it it really is. So but yeah, like I I I I thought it was ⁓ I thought it was a overall a decent beta. I mean, I'm still I'm still planning on buying it. ⁓ you know, we'll just have to see what kind of matchmaking fuckery like that was a big topic of the week. And and and I mean honestly.
SuboneKD: Yeah.
J007tv: I thought all of it was sweaty. I played the closed playlist a little bit. I played the open playlist. It was all fucking sweaty. You know, and
SuboneKD: I don't
J007tv: I d I think that's probably part of it. Yeah, a lot of people quit. So the only ones that are playing it are people who'd been playing it all year and and everything. I mean, I've noticed like my last month on Black Ops seven specifically. It's it's been harder the last month than it was before that. You know, ⁓ I find myself just getting shit on a lot more than than usual. ⁓ I'm still r running, you know, positive numbers ⁓ for the most part, but but yeah, and I I'll tell you on this beta, I sure as fuck didn't.
SuboneKD: Nice.
J007tv: Dude, there are some games where like, dude, I I I think there was like two games in a row, I d I was like one and seven off rip for both. And I'm just like, golly, man, it's hard to come back from that. Inflation.
SuboneKD: in
J007tv: I never got around to trying it. I wish I had. I told you I was no, I so ⁓ Saturday that's all I played was ⁓ or not Saturday, but Friday, that's all I played. ⁓ I played like two games of the multi, and then Jigzy was ready to play some resurgence. So we we played that and I I was questioning my life choices the first two games or so, just getting absolutely dunked on. ⁓ because I'm not a resurgence player. I'm not, I'm terrible at it. and then the ⁓ yesterday when we played, it was all multi.
SuboneKD: the whole
J007tv: I I only played for like three hours yesterday though, so There we
SuboneKD: he was
J007tv: Yeah, yeah, I mean it j if it just felt ridiculously fast at times for me. Could have been a skill issue. I mean, Lord knows I have ⁓ you know. ⁓ but yeah, I mean it it felt really fast. I mean, obviously, like we were talking earlier, TDK doesn't fucking matter at all when you get one tapped with a marksman rifle anyway. You know what I mean? Like so.
SuboneKD: But. Yep. When the, when the, when the
J007tv: I may or may not have teabagged and shot some bodies yesterday because of people running that and the shotgun. ⁓ yeah. So anyway, but but no, I thought overall, dude, I I think it's gonna be a decent year. Hopefully they they don't do anything fucking crazy. I'm anxious to see about the new big map for Warzone, but it's like
SuboneKD: Well, as you should, but
J007tv: I just wonder what they're gonna do with the playlist, man. I mean, did you see how everybody and and honestly, dude, I kind of if I was ⁓ like wanting to play resurgence, I'd lose my shit over this too. Where they did fucking, I think like casual was on for like a whole day and like you couldn't even play regular resurgence. I didn't load it up because of that. I was like, fuck that, I'm not contributing to their numbers.
SuboneKD: Mm-hmm. The end I was playing, they ⁓
J007tv: Make ⁓ both available. 'Cause people are pussies. So what do you think I'm gonna say about that?
SuboneKD: there will be nobody there. Like, mean,
J007tv: No, no, I know, I know. But the problem is is it's one of those things, right? Like, I I'm not disagreeing with you, but you know, when they say that perception is reality, I feel like a a lot of times perception couldn't be further from reality because again, statistically, let's not people act like that's gonna happen every single match. It happens one match, fucking take your lump, move on, or leave the goddamn lobby. You know what I mean? Like Jesus. It's not like it's gonna happen every fucking match.
SuboneKD: Well, they've left the lobby. And
J007tv: Well, you know what, dude? At the end of the day, d I think what you're gonna have happen now is if if they keep with this casual nonsense, you're not gonna be able to tell a difference between the two because the sweats are just gonna say fuck you and they're gonna go ruin the casual experience too. They're going to. I don't know who
SuboneKD: whatever ⁓ Next. Yeah, I couldn't have been farther
J007tv: Next Even getting that. I mean, J-Rock will tell you he's been in there when I've been playing solos, and I'm like, that has to be a fucking bot. Like, there is no way this is a human. No way. You know? And and it's it's crazy.
SuboneKD: I think that because they're
J007tv: How though? How? Well, if they're bad at the game, they're gonna be bad anyway. Just fucking, you know? Shut your ass up, Jay. Fucking asshole.
SuboneKD: could it. ⁓
J007tv: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Pull pull that back up again. Hang on a minute. Hang on a fucking minute here. Of course it was dead for two days. Those are the days we were off, dummy.
SuboneKD: It was dead for two days. Laughter ⁓
J007tv: Wait a minute. I'm pulling up a calendar. I'm like looking, I'm like, wait, that's fucking Wednesday and Thursday. Of course it is. No.
SuboneKD: I expected you to roll your eyes at that a little harder than you did. But ⁓
J007tv: dead for two days. I thought so I I don't even know by the way, like do stream chart steam charts matter? Do they not? Like are we ⁓ I don't know anymore. 'Cause
SuboneKD: It's the only data we interesting.
J007tv: It So
SuboneKD: so
J007tv: You know why? I think because of the level cap.
SuboneKD: Multiplayer does not And by nobody, I mean most
J007tv: yeah, I hadn't even thought about that. That's too bad. I like it.
SuboneKD: when
J007tv: Well that's You know something else that I noticed, ⁓ over that that that trend that you showed? Way more resurgence players than regular big map players in the beta.
SuboneKD: going
J007tv: Buddy. There was no big map in the fucking beta dude. I that was a joke. Gotcha, bitch. No. No. You know what? You may be right. I don't know. You may be right because the way they've fucking more or less ignored and treated ⁓ Big Map like the bastard stepchild for the last two or three years, you may be right because their dad ⁓ says otherwise. You may be right.
SuboneKD: I think the think BigMap is in a rough spot.
J007tv: Yeah, I don't know. I still would give my left nut. I I legitimately would. If I could see on a regular basis dollars spent versus hours play. That that's the one piece of data that I covet more than any other piece of data ever. I think we lost sub son of a Can you guys hear me? Appreciate it. But yeah, that's the data that I would love to see. I would love to see hours played versus dollars spent. And I'll tell you why. Part of it's because I suspect that the whole theory that the guys that play three hours a week, the casuals or whatever, the ones that drive the dollars spent, I suspect that that is not truly the case. It's just the way I feel like it ⁓ the way I feel about it. ⁓ because I to me it's hard it's it it's a hard concept to swallow that somebody's gonna spend a lot of money on something that they don't even care enough to play a lot, right? That that that would be the equivalent. I haven't played golf since twenty nineteen, but that'd be the equivalent of me starting to go to the driving range and then buying new clubs, new shoes, new everything, and I hadn't even played. Or that I'm only gonna play the game once every four months. Like that would not make fucking sense. Well, ⁓ the other thing is too a literate and and I'm not the only one that's ever said this, they need to separate the two, man. Stop let Warzone be its own thing. Let multi be its own thing and stand on its own merits. Keep Warzone free and stop tying the two together because I feel like that's a large part of the problem, in my opinion. Yeah, but the stupid thing is is they don't have to. When knocked him offline again, that sucks. Yeah, the stupid thing is they don't have to. I don't I don't feel like they really have to. They they don't have to depend on that. If they just did if if they did good content for Warzone, right? And good like good cont like Warzone could pay for itself or whatever if they were doing good content for there, and if they did good content for multiplayer. That's all they'd have to do, man. Jesus. No, I ain't never spent. No, sir. $2,000 on skins? Fucking hell. No way. Yeah. But yeah, Sub is telling me to go ahead and call it here because his ⁓ wind knocked him offline. But but no, ⁓ I don't know if anybody ⁓ did you guys watch the Netflix thing for ⁓ GTA? Dude, it's actually pretty cool, ⁓ J-Rock. I I think it was pretty cool. It showed a lot about the game. It kind of makes me sad that it's not gonna be on PC off rip. Cause like I legitimately want to play that game. Like I I liked the combat, the driving, like just everything I saw. That I think that game for the people who love Grand Theft Auto, I think that game is going to be legit for them. Graphically it looked beautiful. No, it's there's not spoilers. It's like a little side mission that they run you through on there. Dude, seriously, there's no fucking spoilers. I mean you f it's no more spoilers than what you already know about it. And it just shows a little bit of a little bit of the combat and a lot of the like driving and stuff. Yeah, my wife and I actually just watched that right before I came in here to do this podcast. But yeah, I ⁓ I'm looking I'm looking forward to I am looking forward to Modern Warfare. I I I really hope that it brings my guys back because it was nice actually having a squad to play with ⁓ over the weekend and the first weekend. Like that was that was really nice having that because for the better part of a year and a half I've pretty much run solo and for multiplayer that's a miserable experience. And While I like playing solos on Warzone, I still like running with a squad too. ⁓ just disappointed that I probably I don't know we'll probably never get another like Black Ops Royale type of mode, which kind of sucks. But you know, again, I I don't feel like they ever really supported that mode the way they should have, but that's neither here nor there, I guess. But I I'm not gonna sit here and say it's the best game ever. I thought the one mission that I played in the campaign was actually kind of fun. ⁓ I really liked the kill block mode. ⁓ that was fun as shit. ⁓ I I could I could see myself actually just just playing that on some nights where it's like that's all I play. Why are they getting rid of it? Jay, they never supported it really, to be honest. Yeah, they rolled it out, but it never had all the squad sizes. And if it did, not for very long that I can really remember. And now it's only it's quads only. So guys like myself can't even really play that mode. They took away solos. So now the data is gonna say that nobody played it. So there you go. You know, so yeah, I don't I don't think we'll get that ⁓ and I thought that mode was awesome. And it it's no surprise that my numbers are better on that mode than regular war zone. Yeah, and I don't know why they tend to do that with the playlists. It's very frustrating to me. You know, like have all four squad sizes for resurgence and ranked. Have all four squad sizes for regular BR and ranked. Have all four squad sizes or yeah, you probably don't need solos and casuals, but have trios and duo or quads and casuals or whatever. ⁓ and and and you know, that's it. I agree, but they'll never do it. Yeah, they'll they'll never do it. And I think whoever thought that bringing that mode to Warzone, whoever came up with that, should be loaded up in a rocket ship and fired straight into the sun. Cause they've done irreparable damage to Warzone and the player experience. P a lot of people just don't know it yet. Yeah, we're definitely stuck with that mode illiterate. I And again, that's why I opposed it from the day they released it. I thought it was a bad idea. They should have had a training mode where it like locked you in, like certain if you're above a certain rank or a certain KD, you are not getting in there. That is for people who are trying to learn the game. I mean, I hope so, but dude, I thought that about Greyzone. I thought that about X Defiant. I thought that about my favorite COD gun of all time. It would be the ACR. Yeah, I played Grey Zone. I we actually interviewed Rick ⁓ from Mad Finger Games on the podcast. The only reason I stopped playing Grey Zone is because ⁓ I stopped having people to play it with. But yeah, the A the ACR ⁓ slash kilo are my two favorite gun or that's my favorite gun. What about you, Jay? I forget what I even joined. I joined the one that was more like Milsim-ish or like private military company, probably Mithras. I think that's who I joined. You join a new one every white well dude, I haven't played that game in over a year. But ⁓ anyway, I did complete the story for ⁓ Arkham City, but I ⁓ I still have so much side shit to do. So I'll be I'll be playing that. And then eventually I'm gonna play Ark Arkham Knight. Used to love the U the Ump 45. Yeah, I that and so my favorite AR is that Kilo slash ACR. and for SMG, it's the Modern Warfare 2019 ⁓ MP5. Marksman is the EBR. That was my jam, bro. Until they nerfed it into the ground. But yeah, guys, I'm gonna go ahead and call it. ⁓ I will I'm gonna be live on my channel ⁓ tomorrow. I'm gonna have my fantasy football draft. So probably be more of like a just talking stream if you want to come by and kick it. But appreciate everybody for stopping through. yeah, we'll get this thing ⁓ going. We'll be back live again. ⁓ I don't know if we'll be on next Monday or not because it's a holiday. So just stay tuned. We'll update Twitter. But y'all have a ⁓ have a good night.
