Exploring Golf's Challenges, Innovations, and Media with Nathan Rarick

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What's going on, ladies and gentlemen?
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This is Pods Plays Golf.
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Welcome to a special episode of The Scratch
Project.
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Today, I am joined by my special guest, Nathan
Rarek of Fairway to Green.
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And we're gonna bring Nathan in right now.
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How are doing, man?
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I'm good.
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How are you?
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Thank thanks for having me on.
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I'm great.
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I'm just, like I said, we've touched on it a
bit.
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Just a little tired from the weekend.
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Yeah.
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No.
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I I I get it.
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It's, you know, playing golf on the weekend is
always fun, but, you know, there's a little
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downfall to to all the playing and all the
practice, but that's kinda what makes the game
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fun.
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I feel like every time I have a weekend
tournament or just a weekend tee time, like, I
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have my friend that I go with on the weekends,
and the tee time is always 06:30 in the morning
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or something.
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And I'm just like, oh my god.
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Yes.
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You know, sometimes I don't mind playing that
early, but, you know, there are days where it's
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like, you know what?
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No.
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I I wouldn't mind a a 10:00, 09:30 tee time.
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You know, sleep in a little, get there, and and
go.
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But, you know, what if you tee off that early,
you got the rest of the day ahead of you.
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And, you know, if you're feeling up to, you
could always sneak in maybe a little nine holes
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later in the day, or if you're really
ambitious, and you'll play another 18.
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Yeah.
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I think I think that's a good place to start.
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So just casual fun here.
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What's the most holes you've played in the day?
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My record's, like, 36.
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I've done 36 a couple times.
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You know, it's it's the point where it's like
I'm going out of town.
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Like, a couple years ago, I was down in,
actually, it was down in Tennessee, Mississippi
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area.
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I was down there with my fiance.
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You know, she was visiting a friend, and we
went.
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We watched the I think it was maybe the second
round of the FedEx St.
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Jude championship.
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And the day before, I think I played two
different courses out there, just, you know, to
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see what it was like.
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And, you know, both good courses, I will say
the second time I got stuck in rain, like, a
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nice little, like, fifteen minute rainstorm,
and I was on, like, whole 12.
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I had no idea, so I just had to sit in the
cart, get soaked.
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But, yeah, 36 is the most I've done.
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After that, I I don't I don't know if I could
play anymore after 36.
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Yeah.
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I, I did 36 holes a couple times.
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I had the first time I did 36 holes, I was
playing at an executive course, so it's not
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like a regular course.
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I played 18 there, and then my buddy was like,
hey.
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Are you still in town?
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And I'm like, yeah.
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And he's like, you wanna go play Apple Valley
with me?
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And I was like, okay.
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And I was all confident about it.
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Then I went and played 18 at a full size big
boy golf course, and I'd played 36 holes in a
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matter of, like, in the span of, like, forty
five minutes of each other, you know, starting
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ending the first one, starting the second one.
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I started golf that day probably at, like,
eight in the morning and didn't get home and
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finish my round until, like, six at night.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that's those are the fun rounds.
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Like, I know the the one time my friend and I,
I'm living in New York, so kind of the finger
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licks there.
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So not a ton of golf courses.
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So there's, like, two nine hole courses that we
played, and then we went and we went and played
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one of the front nines and one of the 18 hole
courses.
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It was kinda we started, like you said, like,
9AM after the second round, like, grabbed lunch
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somewhere, played the last nine, then went to
dinner.
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And, you know, it's it's something we try to do
every year, just, you know, a different 27
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holes or whatever it may be.
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But, you know, he's one when I when I told him
I played 36 holes.
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He was like, I don't know if I could do that.
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He he was like, I'll do 27.
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But if you add another nine, he's he's not in
for it.
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Dude, it hurts your hands too.
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Glove or no glove after a while.
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Like, I don't know about you, but I'll show
them.
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I don't know if you can see them on camera, but
I've got calluses just right here on my fingers
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Yeah.
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Built up from swings upon swings upon swings.
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And I don't know if I could do 36 holes,
anything past that.
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Like, 36 is my limit.
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I don't I know, like again, I'm in New York, so
Josh Allen's big big golfer here in the Buffalo
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area, and he does a thing where he plays he
plays from, like, sunset or sunrise to sunset
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every year for, like, a charity.
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And I I can't remember.
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It's probably, like, every birdie he makes, he
donates x amount of money, but then and he
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plays.
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And at the end of the day, his stats are like,
I played a 100 some odd holes today.
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And he has he's got other Bills players to do
it with him and other, like, sports media
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people in in Buffalo.
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It's all for a good cause, but, like, they'll
post, like, their stats and be like, oh, I
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played 95 holes today.
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I'm like, I don't know how you can grip a club
anymore, let alone swing, and my legs would be
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sore.
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Just, like, at some point, it can't be
enjoyable anymore.
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Speaking of, taking a massive amount of,
challenge and charity, I keep like, I I don't
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know about you, but I keep getting on Instagram
and Facebook.
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And I keep seeing this thing swirling around
about the September swing challenge.
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I don't know if you've seen this.
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Like, it's three three hundred swings in
September.
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I have to bring it.
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I don't have it on me right now, but I it's
like, it pops up intermittently, and it's been
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popping up all summer.
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But I think it's like the American Heart
Foundation or something.
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They're doing, like, a 300 swings in September
challenge or something like that.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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No.
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I'll Golf
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and heart heart health.
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And I was like, alright.
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Cool.
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I do 300 swings between the range and one
round.
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So
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, as, I'm a PE teacher as well, so we we
do the the jumper up for heart with American
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Heart Association.
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So involving the golf into that, I think, is
just an easy connection for both of them.
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And, again, it's something when I had taught
high school PE, it was one of the sports I
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taught because I thought it was an easy thing
for them to learn, and then it's something you
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can do for the rest of your life practically.
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It's it's a really good lifetime sport, and
it's a good way of
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exercising.
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I wish that my PE teachers would have
introduced me to golf because, I grew up in
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Kansas.
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Right?
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I was born out here, but I grew up in Kansas.
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And we had nothing but plains and green grass
and fields.
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And, man, I wish that my PE teacher would've
introduced us to golf at a much earlier age
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because then I could've got some practice in.
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It's a it it was one where, you know, it was
during the COVID years.
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So, like, they were very strict on rules and
what golf balls you could touch and what golf
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clubs you could touch.
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And it got to the point where I had probably,
like, 15 kids a class, and I gave them all,
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like, golf wiffle balls.
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And I had to mark them with different colors so
they knew who's the one to touch.
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And it was an insane amount of work to do.
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And then also trusting these, you know, high
schoolers with seven irons and pitching wedges
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in their hand and, like, I was like, boy, what
am I getting myself into?
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But nothing bad happened.
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No clubs were thrown.
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No one was hit.
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Again, it's a great sport.
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I know it's not for everyone.
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It's boring.
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People call it boring and and all that, but I
think it's one of those things that, again, you
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can do for the rest of your life.
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So why wouldn't me as a teacher teach it?
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You know, I think golf gets kind of a bad rap
in the boring aspect because people that call
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it boring have only ever watched it on TV.
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Yeah.
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And I don't think they've ever gone and
actually played outside of maybe putt putt golf
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in the driving range.
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And it's funny because you go and talk to those
same people, and they're like, oh, yeah.
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I love putt putt golf in the driving range.
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I'm like, then go to the golf course and just
play.
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It doesn't matter if you're good or not.
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Just play and swing.
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You'll have fun.
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Yeah.
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I what other I mean, what other sport allows
you to get up early and drink beer at six in
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the morning?
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No.
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And, again, I I think you bring up a good
point.
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It's like, it doesn't matter, like, how good
you are.
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And I I think when I first started again, I I
started late.
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I started I think the first time I ever played
was I was a high school sophomore and because I
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was busy with baseball and hockey and other
things.
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So those were the things I did.
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It wasn't till, you know, college time I really
got into it when I wasn't doing those sports,
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and I still wanted to be competitive and and,
you know, beat my friends and hang out with my
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friends that I've got more into it now and
turned 30 a couple months ago.
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And now that's that's pretty much the only
thing I do now, like, sports wise, is practice
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or go to the putting rate or, like, putting
green or or play.
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Now I'm unfortunately in New York, so our
season is very limited.
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But I I think it's for me, it's a great way to
get those, like, competitive juices going, you
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know, playing against my brother, playing
against my friend, or just, you know, the the
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grind of it is something that is maybe makes me
a golf sicko.
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Like, I don't mind.
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Like, last week, I woke up at 07:30AM, and I
went to the range for an hour, and then I
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putted for an hour.
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And it's like, why?
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I'm not playing on tour.
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I'm not trying to chase some club championship,
but I just enjoy getting better at this game.
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Well, let me answer your questions there, more
like your statement there.
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One, because we're psychotic and we love this
game so much.
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For sure.
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You know, we got a little bit of psycho in us
because we love a game that we just go and
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chase that next big shot even though we've,
like, shanked 13 of them to the right, and
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we've been in the trees all day.
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But you get that one good shot, you're like,
yeah.
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I'm a do this for the rest of my life.
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Yeah.
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No.
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I mean, it's And you
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started you started golf when?
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College?
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The the first time I really played was, like,
sophomore year of high school, and and then I
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got into it more in college.
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I'm I'm not super proud of this, but the one
course by our our college, my friend and I
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found out that they have a a nine hole course.
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Now they have an 18 hole course up kind of on
top of the hill, so then they have, like, their
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executive nine.
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And it was down on the bottom.
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We played it once, and we went to go pay at the
clubhouse, like Shaq they have, and no one was
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there.
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And we're like,
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alright.
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Let's go play it again.
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Yeah.
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So, like, we quickly learned that no one was
ever there.
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So we would play there once, twice a week kind
of towards the end of our college year just
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because that's when the weather was nice.
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And it's like, yeah.
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Should we go up to the pro shop on the hill to
go pay?
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But I'm like, I'm not driving all the way up
there to do that.
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If they want someone here, they should put
someone here.
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So, like, that was when I really got into it.
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And then the COVID, right, we talk about this
COVID boom.
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That's all I did.
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I that was the first time I took lessons.
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I think I I bought, like, a a six pack of
lessons and really just focused on different
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things and spending time at the range and
putting.
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And now, you know, it's it's led to still
playing bad golf, but it's still fun.
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Yeah.
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Don't, you know, don't be ashamed of that.
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I mean, if they're not gonna have people down
there, that's their own fault.
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Yeah.
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I I agree.
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For me, though, I got a really late start to
golf.
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This is actually, my second year golfing.
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Okay.
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It was my second year starting in, April.
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I got into it really, really late.
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Like, I I got into it last year.
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I was looking for a way to lose some weight and
not really think about it.
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And I was like, well, what if I just walk the
golf course?
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Yeah.
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And then it turned into, oh, man.
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This is really fun.
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And then it turned into, yeah.
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This is this is it.
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This is what I'm doing.
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I think.
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Like, I I can't tell you how obsessed I am with
this game.
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It's actually sometimes I go to sleep thinking
about just, you know, club clubs, ball flight,
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everything, and I'm just like, oh, man.
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I got a problem.
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I know.
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It it's this term gets thrown around, and I I
wouldn't say it's a newer term, but, like, the
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golf sicko, the golf psycho, whatever you wanna
call it.
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Like, it's it's fully ingrained into me now.
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Like, how do I plan my week?
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Like, when can I go to the range?
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When can I sneak out nine holes?
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When am I gonna wake up early to play nine
holes before I have to go do this?
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Like, again, I I'm a teacher.
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So man.
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Yeah.
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I I'm a teacher.
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I I coach things.
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So, like, my soccer season starts here, and I
think August 31 is our first day.
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So I got, like, two weeks left before soccer,
and then, like, school starts in September.
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It's like, alright.
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How can I make the most out of these, like,
next two and a half ish weeks before I can't
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really play other than maybe a Saturday or
Sunday morning or or something like that?
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So it's it's tough being in New York.
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I I will say I've the the sicko in me has
looked into moving somewhere south where I can
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play golf twelve months of the year and enjoy
it.
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And, again, I I think it'd be great if I could
play in December.
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But Hey. Of
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Of course, we're here in
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New California, baby.
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Golf all year long.
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I know.
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I've we're we're big Florida fans here.
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My my fiance is a big, a Disney fan.
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So, like, we go down there.
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I've played some of those Disney courses.
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And this past June, like, right after school
went out, we spent, like, three weeks in
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Florida just, you know, driving around
different parts.
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And I played a couple super nice golf courses.
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I was like, yeah.
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Like, this could this would be great if this
was my my course I played in November or
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December.
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Like, I'd love that.
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Out of curiosity, which, which part of Florida
were you guys in?
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Orlando.
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So we spent we started in Orlando and then went
down to the Fort Myers, like Naples area.
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So you got to play some of those Disney
courses.
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Did you play any other courses while you were
in Orlando, like, No No?
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Or
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I played it was at Orange Lake Resort.
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I played there.
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Have two courses there.
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I played the lesser the least hard one there,
and I still here's the thing.
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I it was a great course.
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It was I was really struggling with the driver
that day and, you know, it being in a resort,
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the fairways are tight, and, you know, there's
condos and townhouses all over the place.
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And I donated a lot of balls to some of these
houses and just you know, it was it was tough.
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That was one that I played, and I think the
other one was called was it the Providence Club
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or or something like that down, like, the
Davenport area?
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And then when I went down to Fort Myers, I
actually played it was on Sanibel Island.
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That's kind of where we we go to vacations
right on the coast.
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It's beautiful beach area, and I was looking,
and I have a couple golf courses on the island.
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And I I played at Sanibel Island, I think, golf
club there, and it was great.
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There was no one there because, again, golf
sicko.
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It's June 28 in Florida, and it's 90 degrees.
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No one's playing golf.
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You know, me from New York, I'm like, I'm gonna
play.
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Mind you mind you, as someone, because I
actually have some history in Florida.
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I graduated, and I, lived in Florida back and
forth between my mom and my dad with, you know,
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shared custody.
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So I got to go down to Florida quite a bit.
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I played a couple rounds of golf with my
stepdad when I was in high school, you know,
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down there and in my early twenties just
casually to go hang out with him.
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And, some of the nicest courses I didn't get to
play the Disney courses, unfortunately.
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But some of the nicest In Lake Nona.
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That's my that's my wife.
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Hey.
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You can come through.
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Oh, thank you.
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Sparkling water.
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There you go.
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This is the person behind the camera who makes
all the magic happen.
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Nice.
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Yeah.
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I I think the Orlando area came out.
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I met met up with someone there from from
Instagram, and he was like, hey.
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Do you wanna play?
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I'm like, sure.
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And he showed me this this Providence club, and
it was fantastic.
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It was pristine.
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Like, the starter was great.
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He goes, you know, we walked this course the
other day.
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We counted 38 gators, so watch out.
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Like, I was like, oh, man.
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Like, I don't know.
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They they had towels for us because it was hot,
and and so it was I think some of the golf
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courses there are great.
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Again, the the Disney courses are nice.
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They're they're Disney, so you get what you
expect.
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Some of them are hard.
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Some of them aren't.
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I know my fiance's dad, he he goes down there,
and he'll play a different couple different
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courses sometimes that he likes.
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And, yeah, I mean, there's there's a lot of
courses there that I'd love to play that if I
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lived there, I'd probably get the chance to or
at least try to.
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Whereas, you know, if I'm there for a week, you
know, I'm gonna pick the the closest one or the
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one that has a tee time available.
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I'll tell you this, man.
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People who haven't golfed in Florida before or
been to Florida, 90 degrees is no joke with how
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humid it is there.
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Yeah.
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Like, 90 degrees out here in Cali is nice
because it's a dry heat.
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Mhmm.
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But 90 degrees in Florida, you are never dry.
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You are always got that flop sweat on your
forehead, sweat running down your back.
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Like, it's all it's humid as all can be.
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And also, yeah, you go to a Florida course,
you're gonna see some swamp puppies all the
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time.
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Yeah.
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No.
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I I mean,
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I would mention whenever the wind picks up.
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Yeah.
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I got lucky.
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You know, it was again, I I was a little smart
in the fact that I made my tea times eight,
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08:30 in the morning, so it's not as hot.
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But, like, as I was finishing at, like, 11:30
noon, I'm like, oh, thank god I'm not going off
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right now because I'd I'd die if I was playing
four hours in this.
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And luckily, again, no one was on the golf
course, so I was able to zoom through pretty
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quick, you know, where I needed to take my
time, you know, catch some shade and all that.
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But, yeah, I think I like the Florida golf.
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I mean, some of the fairways I played were real
narrow, so that wasn't great.
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You know, the driver was not working for the
first half of the summer, and I kinda figured
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something out here lately that I think if I was
driving it like I am now, I would've shot lower
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scores.
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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But it's definitely definitely a fun time to
play different parts.
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Alignment is probably the biggest thing for
people like us.
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Like, I think we get in our head too much about
our swing.
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Yeah.
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And we forget the basics of alignment and grip,
and I think that that cost us more strokes than
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we realize.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you see you see Scottie Scheffler and
other people on the range, their internal
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weeks.
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They're they're spending ten minutes talking
with their coach about their grip.
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It's like, you're the world number one.
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Why are you doing this?
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But it's literally the contact with the club.
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So if that's off a little, you know, it matters
so much.
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And I I think that was honestly, bring up
alignment is I was playing with my fiance's
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dad, I don't know, maybe a month ago now, and,
usually, I have a little draw to the driver.
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I'm a lefty, so I get the nice left to right
ball flight.
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And just I was missing everything left, just,
like, really pushing everything left.
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Nothing was coming back right.
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And he was like, you know, last year you stood,
like, stand more close to your target.
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I'm like, yeah.
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Like, I I do remember that.
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So I went to the range, and I, you know,
started doing that more, and I kinda got that
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drawback.
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So, hopefully, it stays.
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You know, I'm sure there'll be another issue to
fix next week or next time I tee it up.
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But right now, I I think we're good with that.
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Now everything else in my bag, you know,
there's issues.
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But the driver, I think, is maybe good for now.
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I've got I just I actually just went and got, I
got some new equipment over the last couple
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weeks.
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I traded in my Titleist GT two driver, and I
got a Cobra dark speed adapt driver.
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And oh my goodness, it is so wonderful.
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I love it so much.
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Yeah.
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It's it's got 33 different lie options lie and
loft options on its SureFit 33 hosel adapter.
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It is the most in-depth adapter I've seen on a
shaft ever.
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It there's 33 different combinations you can
use, and it's incredible.
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And, like, they have this thing on the back of
the head cover.
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It looks like circles.
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And I was like, oh, that's kinda cool.
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And then there's a QR code that's on the back
of the club.
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And then when you scan it with your phone,
it'll actually take you to the adjustability
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guide.
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And those circles that were on the back of your
head cover, they just look like interlapping
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circles, like, a Venn diagram.
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They're all different ball flights.
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Wow.
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It's like, you can go and choose them and be
like, hey.
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If you have this ball flight after hitting with
a one, which is neutral, try this one because
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it'll change your ball flight.
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And it's it's it's surreal.
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I love it so much.
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Yeah.
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I think that's that's a big thing that, again,
I'm I haven't played a lot.
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And, you know, being in New York, I don't play
a lot.
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So I've I've asked people, you know, PGA pros
and and people I've taken lessons with.
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Like, oh, you gotta get fitted.
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You gotta get fitted.
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And I'm like, yeah.
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I think I probably should, but also that's so
much money.
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And, again, here in New York, we can play from
April to middle of maybe, like, October 1, if
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you're lucky, like, late in October.
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So, like, am I playing less than 20 rounds a
year probably?
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Like, in a good year, maybe 20 rounds.
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Like, is it worth that giant investment?
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And and everyone I say it I say and ask, they
say, yeah.
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Definitely is.
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You'll play better, and don't you wanna play
better?
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I'm like, yeah.
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But I also don't wanna be out.
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You wanna you wanna hear something crazy?
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Yeah.
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I got fit, last year, actually, into Mizuno JPX
nine twenty five hot metals and to the title is
466
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:54,085
GT two driver and to the five wood and a Mizuno
Pro t one wedges and a Ping Scottsdale putter.
467
00:22:54,085 --> 00:22:56,244
Guess how many of those are still in my bag?
468
00:22:56,404 --> 00:22:57,284
Zero.
469
00:22:58,164 --> 00:22:59,364
None of them.
470
00:22:59,365 --> 00:23:00,004
Yeah.
471
00:23:00,964 --> 00:23:03,924
And I feel bad because it was a giant waste of
money because guess what?
472
00:23:05,730 --> 00:23:12,289
You could you when you get fit as early as I
did and at our skill level, as you get better,
473
00:23:12,930 --> 00:23:14,609
those clubs make you worse.
474
00:23:15,009 --> 00:23:15,649
Yeah.
475
00:23:15,650 --> 00:23:17,009
I think that's a really good point.
476
00:23:17,009 --> 00:23:17,490
Like So
477
00:23:18,575 --> 00:23:23,055
I've been fitted for one club in my bag, and
it's because I was talking to someone, and I
478
00:23:23,055 --> 00:23:26,174
think my putter broke.
479
00:23:26,174 --> 00:23:27,295
And I was like, I don't know.
480
00:23:27,295 --> 00:23:30,974
Like, I'll just go to Facebook marketplace and
and buy some random one.
481
00:23:31,214 --> 00:23:35,069
And the guy goes, what's the club you use every
hole?
482
00:23:35,070 --> 00:23:38,190
And I was like, I my putter, I guess.
483
00:23:38,190 --> 00:23:40,670
Like, he was like, you're not chipping in all
the time or hauling out.
484
00:23:40,670 --> 00:23:41,150
I'm like, no.
485
00:23:41,150 --> 00:23:42,670
I'm definitely not doing that.
486
00:23:42,830 --> 00:23:45,230
He goes, so why don't you have that fit?
487
00:23:45,230 --> 00:23:46,414
I'm like, I don't know.
488
00:23:46,414 --> 00:23:48,255
I was like, I I don't have a good answer for
you.
489
00:23:48,255 --> 00:23:53,535
He goes like, if there's one club that you
should have, he was like, outside he was like,
490
00:23:53,535 --> 00:23:53,775
driver.
491
00:23:53,775 --> 00:23:54,335
Yeah.
492
00:23:55,054 --> 00:23:57,054
He was like, you're gonna use the putter in
every hole.
493
00:23:57,295 --> 00:23:58,335
And so I did it.
494
00:23:58,335 --> 00:24:03,470
I got fitted, and this was, I don't know, three
years ago, maybe just after COVID, I I would
495
00:24:03,470 --> 00:24:05,230
think, if I remember right.
496
00:24:05,309 --> 00:24:11,630
And I I still have in my bag, and, you know,
there are times I'm like, again, I'm a terrible
497
00:24:11,630 --> 00:24:12,109
putter.
498
00:24:12,109 --> 00:24:16,589
It's just like I can't like, does it even
matter that I have this putter fitted to me?
499
00:24:16,589 --> 00:24:16,990
I don't know.
500
00:24:17,605 --> 00:24:19,444
But so that's the one I have.
501
00:24:19,444 --> 00:24:24,325
But I you bring up, like, you can outgrow these
clubs or right?
502
00:24:24,325 --> 00:24:26,404
Like, all of sudden, you pick up sweetness.
503
00:24:26,404 --> 00:24:33,350
Now this regular shaft isn't good because you
need a stiff shaft iron or in your iron or in
504
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:34,230
your driver.
505
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:35,109
But, like
506
00:24:35,990 --> 00:24:36,150
Yeah.
507
00:24:36,150 --> 00:24:38,710
Because now you're launching your seven iron
one eighty.
508
00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:39,589
Yeah.
509
00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:41,990
It's like so I I don't know.
510
00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:49,444
I I'm sure if I were to move and play more or,
you know, for whatever reason, win the lottery
511
00:24:49,444 --> 00:24:52,005
or or something where I can get a big sum of
money, sure.
512
00:24:52,005 --> 00:24:56,644
That'd be one of the things I'd probably do
would be get a nice iron set or or something
513
00:24:56,644 --> 00:24:57,284
like that.
514
00:24:57,284 --> 00:25:00,519
But to waste my time to get fitted, I don't
know.
515
00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:06,279
I'd I'll I'd have to see the advantages of it
before I actually spend the money to do it.
516
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,160
This is what I would say, and this is to
someone who did get fit and has none of that in
517
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:11,960
his bag still.
518
00:25:13,565 --> 00:25:15,325
It is about confidence.
519
00:25:16,125 --> 00:25:19,565
It is about what you feel is comfortable.
520
00:25:19,884 --> 00:25:27,005
And sometimes when you get fit, you have this
pre you have this notion of what you want
521
00:25:27,005 --> 00:25:27,484
already.
522
00:25:29,230 --> 00:25:34,269
So you kinda come in with a little bit of a
bias, and you don't really allow yourself to be
523
00:25:34,269 --> 00:25:35,710
fit into probably what you need to
524
00:25:35,710 --> 00:25:35,950
be fit
525
00:25:35,950 --> 00:25:40,670
into because you have in your head, like, oh, I
need the strict on z x I r's or whatever.
526
00:25:42,095 --> 00:25:42,654
Yeah.
527
00:25:42,894 --> 00:25:46,575
So, like, you really try and that's what I did
with the Mizuno JPX nine twenty five.
528
00:25:46,575 --> 00:25:51,695
It took me a year to realize this, but I kinda
I kinda, like was like, yeah.
529
00:25:51,695 --> 00:25:52,815
This is what I need.
530
00:25:52,815 --> 00:25:58,109
When in reality, now I play believe it or not,
I play a player's distance irons now.
531
00:25:58,109 --> 00:26:03,389
I play, MaxFly x c twos, and they're wonderful.
532
00:26:03,470 --> 00:26:11,835
And they're, like, less they're they're more
than half the price of the Mizuno JPXs.
533
00:26:11,835 --> 00:26:16,555
Like, I think my Mizuno JPXs, when I got fitted
into them, were, like, $1,300, and I got these
534
00:26:16,555 --> 00:26:17,835
ones for $800.
535
00:26:18,315 --> 00:26:18,954
Yeah.
536
00:26:18,955 --> 00:26:20,315
I I think that's a great After
537
00:26:20,315 --> 00:26:22,474
trade in, I paid, like, $2,200.
538
00:26:22,555 --> 00:26:22,875
Yeah.
539
00:26:22,875 --> 00:26:25,970
I I you breed, everyone's swing is different.
540
00:26:25,970 --> 00:26:27,490
Everyone's at different parts of the game.
541
00:26:27,490 --> 00:26:27,730
Right?
542
00:26:27,730 --> 00:26:32,130
If you're learning the game, like, yeah, like,
player development or getting the very basic
543
00:26:32,130 --> 00:26:33,329
irons are probably good.
544
00:26:33,329 --> 00:26:37,694
If you're again, I'm, a a 16 on a good day.
545
00:26:37,694 --> 00:26:38,174
Right?
546
00:26:38,174 --> 00:26:39,535
And so and, again, I don't play out.
547
00:26:39,535 --> 00:26:41,775
It's like, is there maybe the next level
548
00:26:41,934 --> 00:26:43,294
six shots better than me.
549
00:26:43,535 --> 00:26:48,894
So, like, again, is there a better iron level
that I can use?
550
00:26:48,894 --> 00:26:50,575
Like, I'm not gonna go play blades.
551
00:26:50,575 --> 00:26:51,900
Like, I'm not stupid.
552
00:26:51,900 --> 00:26:56,539
Like, oh, put me in p seven nineties from
Taylor Made or or, like, I'm I'm not gonna go
553
00:26:56,539 --> 00:26:57,180
do that.
554
00:26:57,180 --> 00:27:01,420
Like but, like, what is the best iron for my
game?
555
00:27:01,420 --> 00:27:06,554
Like so I I get the point of, yeah, like,
everyone needs a iron that fits their game, and
556
00:27:06,554 --> 00:27:07,434
I I get it.
557
00:27:07,434 --> 00:27:08,154
I do.
558
00:27:08,234 --> 00:27:09,994
It's just more so me.
559
00:27:09,994 --> 00:27:11,674
It's like, I don't wanna spend all this money.
560
00:27:11,674 --> 00:27:14,315
And if it doesn't work, now what?
561
00:27:14,394 --> 00:27:15,434
Like and now I gotta
562
00:27:15,595 --> 00:27:16,795
You wanna hear something crazy?
563
00:27:16,875 --> 00:27:17,355
Buy them.
564
00:27:17,355 --> 00:27:18,154
Like, I don't know.
565
00:27:20,930 --> 00:27:23,490
I actually disagree with you a little bit
there.
566
00:27:23,730 --> 00:27:24,450
Alright.
567
00:27:24,850 --> 00:27:27,250
I think a beginner should play blades.
568
00:27:27,650 --> 00:27:28,289
Okay.
569
00:27:29,250 --> 00:27:30,289
You know why?
570
00:27:30,369 --> 00:27:30,930
No.
571
00:27:30,930 --> 00:27:31,569
Why?
572
00:27:31,730 --> 00:27:38,445
Because you're gonna learn to strike the ball a
heck of a lot better starting out with a
573
00:27:38,445 --> 00:27:43,005
smaller sweet spot and blades than starting out
with game improvement irons.
574
00:27:43,005 --> 00:27:46,845
And I was I've I've been talking to a couple of
my friends about this, and they're like, hey,
575
00:27:46,845 --> 00:27:47,005
man.
576
00:27:47,005 --> 00:27:50,730
Ever since you switched to your player's
distance irons, you're you know, you still have
577
00:27:50,730 --> 00:27:53,129
a miss, but it's significantly less.
578
00:27:53,690 --> 00:28:01,049
The dispersion with blades and player's
distance irons are way more like, the smaller
579
00:28:01,049 --> 00:28:06,444
club head, it's way less than those bigger club
heads because they're trying not to punish you
580
00:28:06,444 --> 00:28:07,565
for off center hits.
581
00:28:07,565 --> 00:28:11,884
But what they don't tell you about that too is
when you hit a really bad one, even if it's
582
00:28:11,884 --> 00:28:17,529
flush on an off center hit, that thing's going
even further into the tree line than if you hit
583
00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:20,890
it with a blade or, you know, a smaller club
head.
584
00:28:21,210 --> 00:28:21,769
Yeah.
585
00:28:21,769 --> 00:28:29,049
So if you can learn to hit a blade early and
that's what you start with, I honestly think
586
00:28:29,049 --> 00:28:33,315
you're better off for it because it improves
your accuracy and your ball striking.
587
00:28:34,514 --> 00:28:34,835
Yeah.
588
00:28:34,835 --> 00:28:35,075
No.
589
00:28:35,075 --> 00:28:38,194
I I think it's a it's a great point that I
haven't really thought about.
590
00:28:38,194 --> 00:28:44,355
It's like, if you can learn on the hardest
thing and then kind of get easier, like, yeah,
591
00:28:44,355 --> 00:28:49,679
you're gonna have your misses aren't gonna be
terrible misses like some my misses are real
592
00:28:49,679 --> 00:28:55,679
bad sometimes, and that's my thing with playing
the draw, and I'm trying to take the one side
593
00:28:55,679 --> 00:28:56,559
of the fairway out.
594
00:28:56,559 --> 00:29:02,894
If I know that my miss is gonna be a yank right
and I'm not gonna be slicing or pushing things
595
00:29:02,894 --> 00:29:07,375
left and I'm always gonna be on the right side
of fairway in the golf course, that's what I'm
596
00:29:07,375 --> 00:29:07,934
trying to do.
597
00:29:07,934 --> 00:29:10,734
It's like, let me at least eliminate half of
the course.
598
00:29:11,049 --> 00:29:12,329
Let me play from this side.
599
00:29:12,329 --> 00:29:14,890
I know, right, if I hit it good, it's gonna
stay in the fairy.
600
00:29:14,890 --> 00:29:20,809
But if I yank it or really, you know, come
over, like, two inside and it really goes
601
00:29:20,809 --> 00:29:22,410
right, at least I know where it's going.
602
00:29:22,984 --> 00:29:29,224
If I can just kinda know where my miss is going
and make my less my bad shots less bad, that's
603
00:29:29,224 --> 00:29:30,184
kind of the goal.
604
00:29:31,065 --> 00:29:31,384
Yeah.
605
00:29:31,384 --> 00:29:32,664
That's and that's golf.
606
00:29:32,664 --> 00:29:33,065
You know?
607
00:29:33,065 --> 00:29:39,309
Play within it's one thing to play, you know,
hero ball, but to be able to play within your
608
00:29:39,309 --> 00:29:44,670
own game, that is probably outside of fixing
alignment and grip.
609
00:29:45,630 --> 00:29:51,045
That's probably the most important part is the
mental side of the game is trying not to be a
610
00:29:51,045 --> 00:29:51,605
hero.
611
00:29:51,605 --> 00:29:56,404
Like, you will score better if you play safe
golf.
612
00:29:56,404 --> 00:29:57,924
Now people be like, oh, that's boring.
613
00:29:57,924 --> 00:30:01,684
It's like, watch a punch shot that you punch
back out into the fairway sometimes.
614
00:30:01,684 --> 00:30:03,125
You might end up better than you thought.
615
00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:06,919
Lay up, you might end up better than you
thought.
616
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:11,000
Like, you don't always like, especially for me.
617
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,519
I'm a shorter hitter right now because I'm
still getting the mechanics every and
618
00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:15,159
everything down.
619
00:30:16,294 --> 00:30:21,335
I'm not trying to hit the green and two on a
par five or, heck, even on a par four.
620
00:30:21,414 --> 00:30:26,294
I play everything, like, it's, so if it's a par
four, I play it like a par five.
621
00:30:26,375 --> 00:30:26,534
Yeah.
622
00:30:26,534 --> 00:30:28,534
Par five, par six, par three, par four.
623
00:30:30,150 --> 00:30:34,390
I think that's a great way to learn, and I
think you bring it, like right?
624
00:30:34,390 --> 00:30:38,230
Like, I'm never going for the green and two on
a par five.
625
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:45,355
I know that I can't hit even if it's 200 yards
away or two fifteen, like, where I have to hit
626
00:30:45,355 --> 00:30:47,194
my hybrid or my three wood.
627
00:30:47,275 --> 00:30:50,795
Again, I don't know why I have them in the bag
because I never hit them because I'm terrible
628
00:30:50,795 --> 00:30:51,515
at them.
629
00:30:51,595 --> 00:30:57,710
Like, I know that I'm what I'm gonna do is if I
hit a good drive, I'm gonna hit a nine iron,
630
00:30:57,710 --> 00:31:04,350
eight iron to lay up and get myself, you know,
a 150 yards or so in to make par.
631
00:31:04,350 --> 00:31:05,869
I'm not trying to make birdie.
632
00:31:06,029 --> 00:31:08,590
Like, I'm like, cool if
633
00:31:08,590 --> 00:31:10,029
I That's perfect mentality.
634
00:31:10,984 --> 00:31:12,265
And I make birdie cool.
635
00:31:12,265 --> 00:31:14,025
I'm perfectly fine with the par.
636
00:31:14,184 --> 00:31:18,265
Like, give me the par on a par five and and let
me walk away.
637
00:31:18,265 --> 00:31:20,265
I know, like you said, I know my game.
638
00:31:20,265 --> 00:31:21,224
I can't get there.
639
00:31:21,705 --> 00:31:22,105
Like, I
640
00:31:22,904 --> 00:31:23,225
Yeah.
641
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,559
But that's the hardest part of golf in my
opinion, though, too.
642
00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:29,720
It's accepting your limitations.
643
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:37,424
Because golf and this may sound like just part
of being the sicko that I am, but golf will
644
00:31:37,424 --> 00:31:40,464
teach you a whole lot about who you are as a
person.
645
00:31:42,944 --> 00:31:44,464
And it'll humble you.
646
00:31:45,184 --> 00:31:45,984
Oh, it does.
647
00:31:45,984 --> 00:31:49,664
And it's the thing I say this all the time,
like, when I'm playing with my friends.
648
00:31:49,664 --> 00:31:51,585
Like, again, I I play baseball.
649
00:31:51,744 --> 00:31:55,750
So, like, I could hit a pitcher throwing 90
miles an hour.
650
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:56,390
I could hit that.
651
00:31:56,390 --> 00:31:58,389
I could hit the curveball, and it's moving.
652
00:31:58,789 --> 00:32:05,109
When that little white ball is standing still,
perfectly in the fairway, and I chunk it or I
653
00:32:05,109 --> 00:32:07,829
thin it or I yank it 30 yards right.
654
00:32:07,829 --> 00:32:09,565
Like, I'm like, what?
655
00:32:09,565 --> 00:32:10,604
Like, why?
656
00:32:10,605 --> 00:32:11,644
Like, why is this game
657
00:32:11,804 --> 00:32:13,325
You feel like it's mocking you.
658
00:32:13,404 --> 00:32:13,724
Yeah.
659
00:32:13,724 --> 00:32:16,044
I'm like, this game should not be this hard.
660
00:32:16,284 --> 00:32:16,605
Right?
661
00:32:16,605 --> 00:32:18,444
I have a basic you.
662
00:32:18,605 --> 00:32:19,005
Yeah.
663
00:32:19,005 --> 00:32:20,125
I have a basic chip.
664
00:32:20,125 --> 00:32:20,684
Duff it.
665
00:32:21,109 --> 00:32:22,549
Or I skull it.
666
00:32:22,549 --> 00:32:23,590
Like, what am I doing?
667
00:32:23,590 --> 00:32:27,829
Like, it was like, the other day, I played, and
it was a par three.
668
00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:30,309
It was, like, a 155 yards.
669
00:32:30,390 --> 00:32:31,430
Hit a great shot.
670
00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:35,474
I'm maybe, like, 15 feet from the pin, and it's
downhill.
671
00:32:35,474 --> 00:32:36,195
So I'm like, alright.
672
00:32:36,195 --> 00:32:40,034
I can't really hit this hard because it's gonna
go way by, and I don't wanna do that.
673
00:32:40,595 --> 00:32:44,994
And I was so nervous that I hit my first putt
five feet.
674
00:32:45,234 --> 00:32:47,795
Now I give myself a 10 foot downhill for par.
675
00:32:48,079 --> 00:32:49,039
Missed that.
676
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:50,240
And now you're frustrated.
677
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,119
Putt.
678
00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:55,680
I go, I just took me one hit to hit it a 155
yards on the green.
679
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,000
Took me three putts from 15 feet.
680
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,519
Like, am I doing?
681
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:02,160
Like, this is, like, this I'm like, this is so
dumb.
682
00:33:02,575 --> 00:33:04,894
Like, this is like, why do I play this game?
683
00:33:05,295 --> 00:33:08,654
But I did I am I gonna play again this week?
684
00:33:08,654 --> 00:33:09,375
Absolutely.
685
00:33:09,375 --> 00:33:09,934
Is it the same thing?
686
00:33:09,934 --> 00:33:10,894
Absolutely.
687
00:33:11,215 --> 00:33:11,855
Maybe.
688
00:33:12,095 --> 00:33:14,894
But, like, it's just, like, so many things.
689
00:33:14,894 --> 00:33:19,460
Like, when and then, again, I'm not a PGA Tour
player.
690
00:33:19,460 --> 00:33:20,340
I'm not a pro.
691
00:33:20,340 --> 00:33:21,539
Like, I'm not a scratch.
692
00:33:21,539 --> 00:33:22,820
I'm not a single digit heavy.
693
00:33:22,820 --> 00:33:23,859
I understand that.
694
00:33:24,019 --> 00:33:28,420
But, like, when something as easy as that, then
I just screw up so bad.
695
00:33:28,420 --> 00:33:29,299
I'm like, why?
696
00:33:29,299 --> 00:33:30,660
Why am I playing this?
697
00:33:30,775 --> 00:33:32,534
And but here I am.
698
00:33:32,615 --> 00:33:34,454
You know, I have a podcast about it.
699
00:33:34,454 --> 00:33:35,255
I write about it.
700
00:33:35,255 --> 00:33:41,894
I I play it all the time, and I love it even
though it drives me insanely mad more than any
701
00:33:41,894 --> 00:33:43,815
other sport I've ever played in my life did.
702
00:33:45,150 --> 00:33:45,470
Yeah.
703
00:33:45,470 --> 00:33:47,630
It'll drive you up a wall if you let it.
704
00:33:47,950 --> 00:33:48,750
Oh, it does.
705
00:33:48,750 --> 00:33:50,910
It it's so so frustrating.
706
00:33:50,910 --> 00:33:51,390
And it's like
707
00:33:51,470 --> 00:33:56,909
But with me and you being sickos the way that
we are, we'll be getting driven up that wall.
708
00:33:56,910 --> 00:34:00,565
And then the next thing you know, we'll have,
like, a little marker here, and we have just
709
00:34:00,565 --> 00:34:06,484
equations and everything on the wall of why we
screwed up and, oh, this will definitely fix my
710
00:34:06,484 --> 00:34:06,964
game.
711
00:34:07,205 --> 00:34:07,525
Yeah.
712
00:34:07,525 --> 00:34:14,159
It's like my Instagram Discover feed is swing
thoughts and swing tips and this and your setup
713
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:15,599
and all this.
714
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:20,960
And it's like, man, it's just like I'm hitting
driving range hitting if driving range of my
715
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,360
shots will go to, like, read and whatever.
716
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:30,405
And I'm just, like, mad and, like, yelling at
myself, swearing at myself, and she's like,
717
00:34:30,804 --> 00:34:31,525
what's the matter?
718
00:34:31,525 --> 00:34:33,045
I'm like, I can't play this game.
719
00:34:33,045 --> 00:34:34,724
She goes, so?
720
00:34:34,724 --> 00:34:35,525
You're bad.
721
00:34:35,525 --> 00:34:36,085
Who cares?
722
00:34:36,085 --> 00:34:37,284
I'm like, I care.
723
00:34:37,284 --> 00:34:38,324
I wanna be better.
724
00:34:38,324 --> 00:34:40,260
She was like, you play once a week.
725
00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:41,699
You're not gonna get better like this.
726
00:34:41,699 --> 00:34:43,140
I'm like, I guess that's fair.
727
00:34:43,140 --> 00:34:45,940
But, like, it's still so frustrating.
728
00:34:46,660 --> 00:34:49,380
That's a punch that's a punch in the pride
right there.
729
00:34:49,380 --> 00:34:49,699
Yeah.
730
00:34:51,575 --> 00:34:52,375
Alright.
731
00:34:52,535 --> 00:34:57,015
We've talked a lot of golf, and, I feel like
I've done you a little bit of a disservice.
732
00:34:57,015 --> 00:34:59,015
I haven't really talked about you very much.
733
00:34:59,015 --> 00:34:59,815
Oh, it's okay.
734
00:34:59,815 --> 00:35:01,735
You're from New York.
735
00:35:01,815 --> 00:35:08,690
You are the creator, host, and editor in chief
of Fairway to Green.
736
00:35:09,170 --> 00:35:10,610
Tell me how that came about.
737
00:35:10,690 --> 00:35:11,010
Yeah.
738
00:35:11,010 --> 00:35:16,130
So I'm I'm not the creator, editor, all that
before you give me too much credit.
739
00:35:16,130 --> 00:35:18,690
I'm just a writer and podcast host there.
740
00:35:19,625 --> 00:35:26,744
The whole operation goes to to my boss, Kelly
Kelly Okin, who she started this media company
741
00:35:26,905 --> 00:35:29,704
back, I think, 2022, 2023.
742
00:35:30,344 --> 00:35:32,390
She was a division one golfer.
743
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:37,349
She played on the mini tours, I think, the
Epson tour a little, and then she worked in a
744
00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:43,670
golf marketing business and really noticed that
the women in golf and golf coverage for women
745
00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:48,194
isn't covered as well as the men, and she
created Fairy to Green to be more of an
746
00:35:48,194 --> 00:35:50,114
equitable sports media company.
747
00:35:50,755 --> 00:35:53,474
And, again, we'll throw the golf sicko thing
out there.
748
00:35:53,474 --> 00:35:58,835
I was on a website one day, you know, in my
office between classes, and they're looking for
749
00:35:58,835 --> 00:36:01,315
careers in golf as I as I do sometimes.
750
00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:05,679
And I saw this thing pop up for Ferriter Green
to be a writer.
751
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:06,319
I'm like, you know what?
752
00:36:06,319 --> 00:36:07,679
Let me apply on a whim.
753
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:09,280
I have no writing experience.
754
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,719
I'm a PE teacher.
755
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,480
I I don't have a writing background.
756
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:13,519
I play golf.
757
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:15,760
At the time, I was the JV golf coach at my
school.
758
00:36:17,994 --> 00:36:23,195
I applied, and, you know, Kelly and I talked
the next day and did some writing submissions
759
00:36:23,195 --> 00:36:30,550
for I think it was the the RSM classic was my
first one in 2024 in November 2024, and she
760
00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:31,190
liked it.
761
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:36,789
And, you know, from there, it's been almost two
years now, this November of, you know, covering
762
00:36:36,789 --> 00:36:40,789
golf on the PGA Tour, DP World Tour, the the
women's tours.
763
00:36:40,789 --> 00:36:46,795
And this past last summer, I created my one of
the two podcasts I host called the draw, which
764
00:36:46,795 --> 00:36:49,355
is kind of a golf news podcast similar to this.
765
00:36:49,994 --> 00:36:55,434
My cohost and I, Brian, he's gonna be a senior
at Syracuse University and then journalism
766
00:36:55,434 --> 00:36:55,914
school there.
767
00:36:56,219 --> 00:36:56,539
Yeah.
768
00:36:56,539 --> 00:36:59,980
We go over all the things that are happening in
golf world.
769
00:37:00,539 --> 00:37:01,900
So that was been good.
770
00:37:01,900 --> 00:37:03,659
You know, that one's growing steadily.
771
00:37:03,659 --> 00:37:08,460
And then just a couple months ago, kind of in
April, I sat down with my boss, Kelly, and she
772
00:37:08,460 --> 00:37:10,059
was like, I wanna get more into storytelling.
773
00:37:10,525 --> 00:37:11,405
And I was like, cool.
774
00:37:11,405 --> 00:37:12,204
Like, I'd love that.
775
00:37:12,204 --> 00:37:16,684
Like, I'd love writing the recaps of Scottie
Schuffler winning for the fifth time this year
776
00:37:16,684 --> 00:37:21,085
and Rory McIlroy winning the masters and
completing the career grandstand Back to back.
777
00:37:21,085 --> 00:37:22,125
And all of that.
778
00:37:22,284 --> 00:37:24,204
Those were so fun to write about.
779
00:37:24,445 --> 00:37:29,380
But, you know, I wanted to, like, how can I do
something different and more?
780
00:37:29,380 --> 00:37:34,660
And I pitched her the idea of, you know, can I
start a podcast where I just talk to PJ
781
00:37:34,660 --> 00:37:35,540
professionals?
782
00:37:35,860 --> 00:37:36,820
And she was like, yeah.
783
00:37:36,820 --> 00:37:37,860
I love that idea.
784
00:37:38,260 --> 00:37:40,260
And it's kind of taken off from there.
785
00:37:40,260 --> 00:37:43,914
I've I've interviewed a whole bunch of people,
and we've released, I think, it's up to, like,
786
00:37:43,914 --> 00:37:45,434
eight or nine episodes now.
787
00:37:46,155 --> 00:37:49,914
And I've talked to some really cool people at
some really cool golf courses and just kind of
788
00:37:49,914 --> 00:37:54,235
learning how they got to where they are and
what they do in their career.
789
00:37:54,235 --> 00:37:58,220
And I've talked to people that are the
traditional head golf professional.
790
00:37:58,380 --> 00:38:02,780
I've talked to people that were a head golf
professional that left work in a golf course to
791
00:38:02,780 --> 00:38:06,539
go be a master club fitter or or do something
else in the golf world.
792
00:38:07,335 --> 00:38:09,014
And it's been really fun.
793
00:38:09,014 --> 00:38:14,614
It's led me to some really cool conversations
with people that I never thought I'd I'd talked
794
00:38:14,614 --> 00:38:14,934
to.
795
00:38:14,934 --> 00:38:20,340
And, like, for instance, I I talked to one of
the assistant golf professionals at and we
796
00:38:20,340 --> 00:38:21,940
talked about the PGA Championship.
797
00:38:22,099 --> 00:38:22,579
Oh.
798
00:38:22,579 --> 00:38:22,980
Yeah.
799
00:38:22,980 --> 00:38:29,220
I talked to the assistant golf professional at
Hazeltine before the women's PGA Championship
800
00:38:29,220 --> 00:38:29,619
there.
801
00:38:29,619 --> 00:38:35,494
And so I've got some some really cool people
that are really good at their job, and I've
802
00:38:35,494 --> 00:38:36,534
been able to connect.
803
00:38:36,534 --> 00:38:42,855
And it's been a lot of fun to, you know, start
this journey of trying to be I don't even wanna
804
00:38:42,855 --> 00:38:47,414
call myself a golf content creator, maybe
trying to be someone in the golf media or just,
805
00:38:47,690 --> 00:38:48,010
you know
806
00:38:48,250 --> 00:38:50,250
Buddy, you're a golf content creator.
807
00:38:50,730 --> 00:38:51,130
Yeah.
808
00:38:51,130 --> 00:38:51,289
I
809
00:38:51,690 --> 00:38:52,170
You're there?
810
00:38:52,170 --> 00:38:52,570
Whatever
811
00:38:53,849 --> 00:38:56,410
you wanna call it, I it's been really fun.
812
00:38:56,410 --> 00:38:59,210
And, you know, where it goes, who knows?
813
00:38:59,210 --> 00:39:00,329
I I'm still teaching.
814
00:39:00,329 --> 00:39:02,329
So will it one day be my full time job?
815
00:39:02,355 --> 00:39:03,715
I I have no idea.
816
00:39:04,434 --> 00:39:08,994
But it's definitely something I enjoy doing,
and, it's always nice to, you know, talk with
817
00:39:08,994 --> 00:39:14,914
other golf content creators about this game
that drives us so maddening, but also that we'd
818
00:39:14,914 --> 00:39:15,474
love so much.
819
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,240
Yeah.
820
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,680
I guess I should clarify when I say creator,
like, not like as in you made the thing, but
821
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,239
creator as in you're a content creator.
822
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,105
Because now that word is just such a I feel
like that word's got, like, three different
823
00:39:30,105 --> 00:39:30,664
meetings now.
824
00:39:30,664 --> 00:39:33,945
You can be, like, the creator of the blog,
create and then it's, like, create just
825
00:39:33,945 --> 00:39:36,105
everything gets dumbed down to creator.
826
00:39:36,905 --> 00:39:38,905
I'll tell you this much, man.
827
00:39:38,985 --> 00:39:44,789
I have enjoyed having you on, and we do
coverage of everything as well.
828
00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:50,150
And I wouldn't mind having you on as, like, a
special guest or a special guest analyst when
829
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:58,284
you have time to cover some of these big events
like Aaron Rye, mister double glove head cover,
830
00:39:58,284 --> 00:39:58,684
bringing
831
00:39:58,684 --> 00:39:59,005
it in.
832
00:39:59,005 --> 00:40:05,244
I mean, that was one of the more shocking ones
that I talked about with my cohost when we did
833
00:40:05,244 --> 00:40:10,219
that recap, and it just, like, again, like, I'm
I'm a sicko.
834
00:40:10,219 --> 00:40:11,179
That was a tough course.
835
00:40:11,179 --> 00:40:11,579
Yeah.
836
00:40:12,139 --> 00:40:13,980
I watch every week on the PGA tour.
837
00:40:13,980 --> 00:40:17,420
Like, I know random players' names and how good
they are.
838
00:40:17,420 --> 00:40:18,780
So, like, I knew Aaron Rye.
839
00:40:18,780 --> 00:40:22,059
I thought Aaron Rye had a case to be on the
Ryder Cup team last year.
840
00:40:22,425 --> 00:40:25,704
Like, I I thought Aaron Rye is good.
841
00:40:26,425 --> 00:40:27,385
Very good.
842
00:40:27,385 --> 00:40:33,304
Like, he doesn't get a lot of notoriety in the
PGA, but he is one of the best DP World Tour
843
00:40:33,304 --> 00:40:34,664
golfers ever.
844
00:40:34,664 --> 00:40:35,224
Yeah.
845
00:40:35,304 --> 00:40:37,864
I mean, beat Between him and Francisco
Morielli.
846
00:40:38,340 --> 00:40:38,739
Yeah.
847
00:40:38,739 --> 00:40:43,940
He beat Fleetwood, I think, in a playoff this
past fall a year ago, and he's won the Wyndham
848
00:40:43,940 --> 00:40:44,500
championship.
849
00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:47,380
I think it was 2024 before Cam Young did.
850
00:40:47,940 --> 00:40:50,420
And, yeah, I thought he had a serious case for
it.
851
00:40:50,420 --> 00:40:54,724
I I know they end up picking the one Hogarth
brother, which was a fine pick.
852
00:40:54,724 --> 00:40:55,525
He played well.
853
00:40:55,525 --> 00:40:56,965
Again, there's nothing against it.
854
00:40:56,965 --> 00:40:58,485
Know Rye deserved it, though.
855
00:40:58,485 --> 00:40:58,885
Yeah.
856
00:40:58,885 --> 00:41:02,565
So I there was a lot of, you know, things I
thought, like Marco Penn.
857
00:41:02,565 --> 00:41:02,885
You know?
858
00:41:02,885 --> 00:41:08,150
And I don't think, yeah, I don't think there's
any way they can deny him this year or this
859
00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:09,510
coming Ryder Cup after winning
860
00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:09,910
this year.
861
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:15,270
I think that team's gonna look obviously,
you're gonna have Rory.
862
00:41:15,989 --> 00:41:20,309
I'm gonna say Ram, who knows with all the live
stuff and DP World Tour stuff.
863
00:41:20,309 --> 00:41:20,950
Like, I'm gonna
864
00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:21,829
That's interesting.
865
00:41:22,364 --> 00:41:26,684
I don't I don't know if you watched, my last
thing.
866
00:41:26,684 --> 00:41:27,485
Probably not.
867
00:41:27,724 --> 00:41:29,965
But okay.
868
00:41:29,965 --> 00:41:36,284
So Saudi pulled the PIF last year, and that
money's already ran out.
869
00:41:36,284 --> 00:41:39,210
So now they have this partnership, I think,
with JCB.
870
00:41:39,369 --> 00:41:40,010
Mhmm.
871
00:41:40,090 --> 00:41:42,570
But they're not able to pay these contracts.
872
00:41:42,809 --> 00:41:43,369
Oh, yeah.
873
00:41:43,369 --> 00:41:46,329
And they're, like, asking if they would take
equity.
874
00:41:46,329 --> 00:41:47,849
It's like equity and what?
875
00:41:48,090 --> 00:41:51,369
This company's worth less today than it was
Yeah.
876
00:41:51,530 --> 00:41:52,250
Six months ago.
877
00:41:53,045 --> 00:41:59,204
And I think from what I've been hearing because
I've I've watched, like, the Scratch show the
878
00:41:59,204 --> 00:42:05,684
Scratch Golf Show, couple other guys, Shane
O'Golfs, you know, they report on this stuff
879
00:42:05,684 --> 00:42:06,405
when it comes out.
880
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:12,960
I think Ram is in the process of coming back to
the PGA Tour because I'm pretty sure Liv's in
881
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,440
breach of contract at this point if they can't
pay him.
882
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:16,800
Yeah.
883
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,760
And I think he'll probably be out of run.
884
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:20,559
He's John Ram.
885
00:42:20,559 --> 00:42:21,440
He's good now.
886
00:42:22,215 --> 00:42:24,215
I've I've been on record.
887
00:42:24,215 --> 00:42:28,454
I've said this to people not on podcasts and
people in in my life.
888
00:42:29,414 --> 00:42:32,454
Personally, I'm not a John Rom fan.
889
00:42:33,974 --> 00:42:40,460
Him leaving two, three years ago, I thought
was, I'm not gonna say cowardly, but it's like,
890
00:42:40,460 --> 00:42:41,260
come on.
891
00:42:41,260 --> 00:42:43,900
Like, you said all this stuff and then you
leave.
892
00:42:43,900 --> 00:42:44,780
It's like, alright.
893
00:42:44,780 --> 00:42:45,579
Like, I get it.
894
00:42:45,579 --> 00:42:47,260
You wanna get your money.
895
00:42:47,260 --> 00:42:48,300
I I understand.
896
00:42:48,380 --> 00:42:51,660
You're setting yourself up for generational
wealth and and good for you.
897
00:42:51,820 --> 00:42:52,300
So, like
898
00:42:52,715 --> 00:42:53,034
Hey.
899
00:42:53,034 --> 00:42:57,355
I don't know if you've ever watched
professional wrestling, but, back in the
900
00:42:57,355 --> 00:43:02,155
eighties, there used to be this guy called the
million dollar man, Ted DiBiase.
901
00:43:02,954 --> 00:43:06,635
And he had this famous line, everybody's got a
price.
902
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:07,640
Yeah.
903
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,400
So, I mean and he he took it.
904
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:14,599
And, again, what I'd like to see him back on
the PGA Tour, sure.
905
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:18,360
Like, is he one of the top competitors, one of
the best golfers in the world?
906
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:18,760
Yeah.
907
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:19,480
Like, he is.
908
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,160
He was world number one.
909
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,000
He has two major championships.
910
00:43:23,054 --> 00:43:23,934
He's amazing.
911
00:43:25,534 --> 00:43:26,414
I just Okay.
912
00:43:26,414 --> 00:43:27,454
Let me ask you this then.
913
00:43:27,454 --> 00:43:29,694
How how do you feel about Bryson?
914
00:43:29,694 --> 00:43:30,655
I'm the same.
915
00:43:30,655 --> 00:43:35,454
I those two just don't I don't need to see them
play.
916
00:43:35,454 --> 00:43:39,054
I know there's a big chunk of people like, I
wanna see the best players play the best
917
00:43:38,610 --> 00:43:39,809
players, and I I get it.
918
00:43:39,809 --> 00:43:44,849
I would love to see Bryce and Rory go head to
head all the time in final pairings and all
919
00:43:44,849 --> 00:43:45,329
that.
920
00:43:45,890 --> 00:43:52,050
To me, like, I don't know what live guy I I
miss the most.
921
00:43:52,050 --> 00:43:57,175
That that'd be a really I don't know if I have
an answer to that, to be honest, of, like, what
922
00:43:57,175 --> 00:43:58,934
guy do I miss playing the most.
923
00:43:59,494 --> 00:44:00,615
I I don't know.
924
00:44:01,015 --> 00:44:06,215
I think Bryson now, what he's trying to do and
I saw I think someone was like, he was asking
925
00:44:06,215 --> 00:44:08,960
for 500 thou million dollars in his contract.
He's
926
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:09,679
He's like, okay, dude.
927
00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:11,519
You're not bigger than the game of golf.
928
00:44:11,679 --> 00:44:11,920
Like
929
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:12,880
No.
930
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,760
I think that's strategic, though, because he's
asking for $500,000,000 knowing they're not
931
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,559
gonna be able to give him that so he can go
back to the PGA tour.
932
00:44:21,244 --> 00:44:21,565
Yeah.
933
00:44:21,565 --> 00:44:28,045
And, again, will I be mad if I see him tee it
up at TPC Southwind for the FedEx St.
934
00:44:28,045 --> 00:44:28,364
Jude?
935
00:44:28,364 --> 00:44:28,844
No.
936
00:44:28,844 --> 00:44:29,565
Like, cool.
937
00:44:29,565 --> 00:44:32,525
Like, I again, I wanna see the best players
play against the best players.
938
00:44:33,159 --> 00:44:34,519
Do I miss them?
939
00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:35,320
No.
940
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:40,119
And it seems like I'm like, oh, well, you're
just you're an anti live guy.
941
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:40,440
No.
942
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,960
I'm I'm not anti live.
943
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:43,159
Live's not for me.
944
00:44:43,159 --> 00:44:44,599
Like, I I've tried watching it.
945
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:47,480
I've sat down on Saturdays and Sundays and
tried watching it.
946
00:44:47,954 --> 00:44:49,235
It's not for me now.
947
00:44:49,235 --> 00:44:49,954
There are great things that
948
00:44:49,954 --> 00:44:50,114
are coming.
949
00:44:50,515 --> 00:44:53,394
Of golf is not as good as the PGA.
950
00:44:53,394 --> 00:44:53,795
No.
951
00:44:53,795 --> 00:44:59,715
Like, they're There great is one thing there is
one thing from Liv that I wish the PGA would do
952
00:44:59,715 --> 00:45:05,380
more of, though, and that's the team aspect
because I think there's a there's there's money
953
00:45:05,380 --> 00:45:05,940
there.
954
00:45:06,260 --> 00:45:12,179
There's real interest there instead of just
doing the Zurich classic for the one time, you
955
00:45:12,179 --> 00:45:13,699
know, the team aspect.
956
00:45:14,235 --> 00:45:14,555
Yeah.
957
00:45:14,555 --> 00:45:14,954
I I think
958
00:45:14,954 --> 00:45:20,315
there's if you had teams in the PGA, it would
be great because you could market that and sell
959
00:45:20,315 --> 00:45:21,355
merch too.
960
00:45:21,835 --> 00:45:22,235
Yeah.
961
00:45:22,235 --> 00:45:26,075
You could I mean, I again, I'm a golf sicko.
962
00:45:26,989 --> 00:45:28,510
I like TGL.
963
00:45:28,670 --> 00:45:31,550
I'm one of the rare people that like watching
it.
964
00:45:31,869 --> 00:45:33,469
My friends don't watch it.
965
00:45:33,469 --> 00:45:38,269
My fiance's dad who likes golf and I play with
all the time, he's like, it's he's not for me.
966
00:45:38,429 --> 00:45:39,630
For me Hammer.
967
00:45:40,344 --> 00:45:41,785
That's the stuff I like.
968
00:45:42,105 --> 00:45:47,865
I I wanna hear Tiger Woods mic'd up talking to
Tom Kim and Max Homa and Kevin Kissner.
969
00:45:48,105 --> 00:45:49,144
Give me all of that.
970
00:45:49,144 --> 00:45:53,545
Give me all of the inside conversations on how
to hit this shot and what we're trying to do.
971
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,920
And, like, you saw some of these young players
get involved this year.
972
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,280
Tom Kim, you know, finally breaks through with
a win.
973
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,200
Akshay wins at the Arnold Palmer.
974
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,159
Michael Thor Bornson gets his win at Rocket
Classic.
975
00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:07,440
He was on a team Patrick.
976
00:46:08,159 --> 00:46:09,920
Rory McElroy, and Hadecki.
977
00:46:09,785 --> 00:46:15,144
You can't tell me his weeks spent with those
three major championship golfers helped him
978
00:46:15,144 --> 00:46:15,865
this year.
979
00:46:16,184 --> 00:46:16,505
Right?
980
00:46:16,505 --> 00:46:16,664
Like
981
00:46:16,905 --> 00:46:17,385
Yep.
982
00:46:17,385 --> 00:46:21,065
Also, shout out Jackson Clovion.
983
00:46:21,385 --> 00:46:21,704
Yeah.
984
00:46:21,704 --> 00:46:23,065
I think he's really good.
985
00:46:23,065 --> 00:46:26,719
And, again, I we talked about this on my
podcast the last two weeks.
986
00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:28,960
He needs to be on the president's cup team.
987
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,679
I don't care that he's only played five or six
events.
988
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:34,960
I don't care that he finished sixty seventh in
the FedEx cup points.
989
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,559
I want him on the team.
990
00:46:37,454 --> 00:46:39,934
I am a big Justin Thomas fan.
991
00:46:39,934 --> 00:46:43,934
He's probably my favorite golfer, you know, all
the way back to the spring break boys with him
992
00:46:43,934 --> 00:46:46,494
and Ricky and Spieth and and all that.
993
00:46:46,494 --> 00:46:51,055
And I I would pick Jackson Coyvin over Justin
Thomas right now.
994
00:46:51,055 --> 00:46:54,739
I just for me, you know what JT is gonna give
you.
995
00:46:54,739 --> 00:46:58,180
You know that he'll be there next year at the
Ryder Cup team in Ireland.
996
00:46:58,579 --> 00:47:03,380
For Jackson Coyvin, I think, you know, get his
feet wet with this team event in a home
997
00:47:03,380 --> 00:47:08,425
presence cup similar to what they've done in
the past with Ludwig Oberg on the Ryder Cup
998
00:47:08,425 --> 00:47:08,744
team.
999
00:47:08,744 --> 00:47:13,304
And Tom Kim, when he was a rookie and he won
it, he won the window.
1000
00:47:13,304 --> 00:47:15,144
That's the difference, though.
1001
00:47:15,144 --> 00:47:20,820
I feel like Europe they, team Europe, they just
they break these guys in at a younger age, and
1002
00:47:21,219 --> 00:47:24,179
they're ready come, you know, their third Ryder
Cup.
1003
00:47:24,179 --> 00:47:30,500
Like, they just and then we we and we just
tried out like, I don't wanna say this is an
1004
00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:33,539
insult to team USA, but Europe's been kicking
our ass.
1005
00:47:34,235 --> 00:47:34,715
Oh, yeah.
1006
00:47:34,715 --> 00:47:36,155
I I don't think it's installed.
1007
00:47:36,155 --> 00:47:37,755
It's it's true.
1008
00:47:37,755 --> 00:47:44,235
Outside of the Whistling Straits in, what was
it, 2019 or or 2021 or whenever that was, when
1009
00:47:44,235 --> 00:47:49,035
we went to Lake Golf Nationale and Jim Furek
was the Ryder Cup captain, they demolished us.
1010
00:47:49,590 --> 00:47:50,950
Like, they killed us.
1011
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:54,070
Speaking of which, Jim Furek is the Ryder Cup
captain again.
1012
00:47:54,070 --> 00:47:55,110
And there you go.
1013
00:47:55,110 --> 00:47:58,869
And, again, there's so many conversations
you're gonna have with that.
1014
00:47:58,869 --> 00:48:00,550
Like, who did they ask?
1015
00:48:00,550 --> 00:48:03,430
It just feels like an old boys club is what it
feels like.
1016
00:48:03,785 --> 00:48:06,505
And that's the thing is, again, I I like JT.
1017
00:48:06,985 --> 00:48:10,905
I'm not the biggest fan of Patrick Cantley, but
I know he's, like, tenth in the points or
1018
00:48:10,905 --> 00:48:11,864
eleventh in the points.
1019
00:48:11,864 --> 00:48:18,269
Like, for me, like, those guys, like, they
don't need to be at Medina in September to have
1020
00:48:18,269 --> 00:48:19,949
a spot on the Ryder Cup team.
1021
00:48:19,949 --> 00:48:21,950
Ken Cantley hasn't won in three years.
1022
00:48:22,190 --> 00:48:23,309
JT won last year.
1023
00:48:23,309 --> 00:48:28,429
He's played okay, but the back injury like, I
want the I want Jackson Coyvin.
1024
00:48:28,429 --> 00:48:29,789
I want Michael Thorpe Bornson.
1025
00:48:30,125 --> 00:48:34,125
Heck, if it's not one of those guys, give me
someone like Ryan Girard or Jacob Bridgeman.
1026
00:48:34,125 --> 00:48:37,164
Like, these guys who are having career years on
the PGA score.
1027
00:48:37,324 --> 00:48:37,885
Knapp.
1028
00:48:37,964 --> 00:48:43,949
Jake Knapp, who again, just these guys who are
just playing really well.
1029
00:48:43,949 --> 00:48:46,030
And, again, that doesn't mean they're gonna be
on the run.
1030
00:48:46,030 --> 00:48:47,869
And they're hungry, dude.
1031
00:48:48,110 --> 00:48:48,429
Yeah.
1032
00:48:48,429 --> 00:48:53,710
Like, they I don't wanna say JT and Cantley,
some of them are complacent, but it's like,
1033
00:48:53,710 --> 00:48:54,110
alright.
1034
00:48:54,110 --> 00:48:56,204
Like, another cup team.
1035
00:48:56,204 --> 00:48:58,045
I gotta spend another week here.
1036
00:48:58,045 --> 00:49:01,885
Again, Medina's a great course, but, like, I
don't know.
1037
00:49:01,885 --> 00:49:02,844
So there's
1038
00:49:03,085 --> 00:49:03,804
Okay.
1039
00:49:04,364 --> 00:49:06,125
I gotta get this off my chest real quick.
1040
00:49:07,329 --> 00:49:12,690
In most respectful way possible, Nathan,
Cantley can go piss up a rope.
1041
00:49:13,089 --> 00:49:13,489
Yeah.
1042
00:49:13,489 --> 00:49:14,610
I'm not a big fan.
1043
00:49:15,089 --> 00:49:16,289
He takes way too long.
1044
00:49:16,289 --> 00:49:17,969
Cantley can go piss up a rope.
1045
00:49:18,049 --> 00:49:23,614
Furek I don't know what it is about Jim Furek,
but the man like, anytime I see him,
1046
00:49:24,494 --> 00:49:26,735
immediately makes me just frustrated.
1047
00:49:28,494 --> 00:49:35,375
Because between him and who's the guy on the
golf channel who's criticizing everyone all the
1048
00:49:35,375 --> 00:49:35,775
time?
1049
00:49:35,775 --> 00:49:36,414
Chambly,
1050
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:37,599
I think.
1051
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:38,719
Randall Chambly.
1052
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,359
There's Eamon Lynch is is a big one that
1053
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,880
does have he done?
1054
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:49,039
He criticizes everyone, and he acts like he's
been, like, a major winner, and he won, like,
1055
00:49:49,039 --> 00:49:50,480
what, one event in his life?
1056
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:50,800
Yeah.
1057
00:49:51,065 --> 00:49:51,625
That yeah.
1058
00:49:51,625 --> 00:49:56,664
He's got he's got a lot of hate on all of his
anti lib takes and and things like that.
1059
00:49:56,664 --> 00:50:00,905
And, yeah, I don't Cantley for me is a fine
player.
1060
00:50:01,545 --> 00:50:03,465
I just I don't need him there.
1061
00:50:03,465 --> 00:50:08,119
It it's I understand that he has a built in
pair and was Xander Shoffley, and he can match
1062
00:50:08,119 --> 00:50:09,239
well with other golfers.
1063
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,519
But to me, I want the young young guns in.
1064
00:50:12,519 --> 00:50:18,440
I think, right, the the President's Cup has is
not as exciting as the Ryder Cup.
1065
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:18,920
It's just not.
1066
00:50:19,144 --> 00:50:23,864
And for whatever reason, you know, whether it
be the international team not being as well, so
1067
00:50:23,944 --> 00:50:26,025
it's not a close competition, whatever it is.
1068
00:50:26,105 --> 00:50:30,505
I think a good way to bring in some of this
juice in, like, younger kids, like, bring these
1069
00:50:30,505 --> 00:50:31,625
younger golfers in.
1070
00:50:31,625 --> 00:50:32,984
Give me the 21 year old.
1071
00:50:32,984 --> 00:50:34,344
Give me the 22 year old.
1072
00:50:34,344 --> 00:50:38,510
Like, again, I Let them test their metal.
1073
00:50:38,590 --> 00:50:38,989
Yeah.
1074
00:50:38,989 --> 00:50:42,270
I I don't you should win anyways.
1075
00:50:42,510 --> 00:50:44,829
The international team is not as deep as us.
1076
00:50:45,070 --> 00:50:46,750
So, like, you should win.
1077
00:50:46,910 --> 00:50:47,950
So, like, why not?
1078
00:50:47,950 --> 00:50:49,309
What what is the worst thing?
1079
00:50:49,625 --> 00:50:51,385
Again, you don't have to play him all the time.
1080
00:50:51,385 --> 00:50:55,545
He can play one match and the one singles
match, and that's it.
1081
00:50:55,545 --> 00:50:57,464
But at least he has the experience of it.
1082
00:50:57,464 --> 00:51:02,449
He's he's learning from Scotty and Morikawa and
Sam Burns and Russell Henley. Like
1083
00:51:02,289 --> 00:51:08,369
Like getting to be around those guys in a
concentrated area, like, for an amount of time.
1084
00:51:08,369 --> 00:51:14,210
Even if he only plays two matches, he's getting
to be around people who can genuinely make him
1085
00:51:14,210 --> 00:51:15,170
better at the game.
1086
00:51:15,250 --> 00:51:15,569
Yeah.
1087
00:51:15,569 --> 00:51:17,089
And also make him a better pro.
1088
00:51:17,574 --> 00:51:23,735
He is he won in his third career professional
start, fourth career professional start,
1089
00:51:23,974 --> 00:51:27,335
beating Scottie Scheffler with Scottie
Scheffler chasing him.
1090
00:51:27,494 --> 00:51:29,735
It's not like he did it against one of these
opposite field events.
1091
00:51:29,974 --> 00:51:30,454
Nerve.
1092
00:51:31,230 --> 00:51:31,630
Yeah.
1093
00:51:31,630 --> 00:51:35,550
And it again, it he won two national
championships in college.
1094
00:51:35,550 --> 00:51:39,469
He won every major award you can in college.
1095
00:51:39,630 --> 00:51:47,704
He is the next best young player that the
Americans have produced since I don't even know
1096
00:51:47,704 --> 00:51:48,344
when.
1097
00:51:48,905 --> 00:51:49,784
Tiger Woods?
1098
00:51:49,944 --> 00:51:50,264
Yeah.
1099
00:51:50,264 --> 00:51:55,545
Like, I I know Speed had a lot of hype when he
was coming out of Texas, and and Scottie had a
1100
00:51:55,545 --> 00:51:56,264
lot hype.
1101
00:51:56,264 --> 00:51:56,664
Like
1102
00:51:57,144 --> 00:52:03,829
I don't know, like, who I again, to me, I don't
see why not.
1103
00:52:03,989 --> 00:52:07,829
There's one guy on Liv that I wanna see come to
the PGA tour.
1104
00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:08,949
Okay.
1105
00:52:09,190 --> 00:52:15,585
And because I feel like him and Jackson would
have just an all time rivalry.
1106
00:52:16,224 --> 00:52:17,505
Michael Lasasao.
1107
00:52:17,505 --> 00:52:22,545
I want him to come from live back over to PGA
because Michael Lasasao is one of the best
1108
00:52:22,545 --> 00:52:23,264
amateurs too.
1109
00:52:23,679 --> 00:52:24,000
Yeah.
1110
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:24,320
No.
1111
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:29,119
He he won the national championship last year
at Ole Miss or wherever he's at.
1112
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:30,640
So there's a couple of them.
1113
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,239
Like, I liked Joaquin Neiman.
1114
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:33,519
I thought he was a good player.
1115
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:35,039
I like watching him play.
1116
00:52:35,039 --> 00:52:37,280
Like, I'd love to see him come back and see if
he can
1117
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,719
actually win out of Joaquin's great.
1118
00:52:39,934 --> 00:52:42,094
I was a fan, like, of, like, Abe answer.
1119
00:52:42,094 --> 00:52:44,655
Like, he was just a good PGA Tour pro.
1120
00:52:45,135 --> 00:52:45,695
Like right?
1121
00:52:45,695 --> 00:52:46,735
I now Right.
1122
00:52:46,735 --> 00:52:53,215
Do I miss Lee Westwood and Ian Poulter and
Henrik Stenson and Sergio and and all the kinda
1123
00:52:53,215 --> 00:52:54,894
older European stars?
1124
00:52:54,894 --> 00:52:55,135
No.
1125
00:52:55,590 --> 00:52:56,150
No.
1126
00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:57,110
They can stay there.
1127
00:52:57,110 --> 00:52:58,790
Especially not Sergio.
1128
00:52:58,869 --> 00:52:59,349
Yeah.
1129
00:52:59,349 --> 00:53:00,789
But, like, I'd like I'll
1130
00:53:00,789 --> 00:53:03,670
tell you someone who I think should be on tour,
though.
1131
00:53:04,550 --> 00:53:14,494
And I think, he gets kind of an interesting
reputation, But I I wanna say he's, obviously,
1132
00:53:14,494 --> 00:53:18,015
I want AK to come back to the PGA and finish
his career there.
1133
00:53:18,574 --> 00:53:20,735
Anthony Kim, I love AK.
1134
00:53:21,215 --> 00:53:27,930
But I would say on the live tour of guys that I
actually think are good and could play on the
1135
00:53:27,930 --> 00:53:33,130
PGA and need to come is a South Africa product,
actually, Dean Burmester.
1136
00:53:33,289 --> 00:53:35,369
I think he'd be great on the PGA tour.
1137
00:53:35,849 --> 00:53:36,090
Yeah.
1138
00:53:36,090 --> 00:53:37,210
And there's a lot of guys.
1139
00:53:37,210 --> 00:53:38,170
Like, he's a good one.
1140
00:53:38,534 --> 00:53:46,215
Anthony Kim, his story of coming back, I mean,
that's probably the single best thing to happen
1141
00:53:46,934 --> 00:53:49,255
to Liv in its years of existence.
1142
00:53:49,255 --> 00:53:51,894
Like, I don't know if they will have a better
story than that.
1143
00:53:51,894 --> 00:53:55,380
I think that was really cool just to see what
he overcame.
1144
00:53:55,380 --> 00:53:55,940
I don't think so.
1145
00:53:55,940 --> 00:53:59,059
It just it's gonna be tough to beat, especially
now.
1146
00:53:59,059 --> 00:54:04,260
And I in your existence, like, I think, Tom
McKibbin, he's a really good young player over
1147
00:54:04,260 --> 00:54:09,445
there that looked to have a PGA Tour card from
a success on the DP World Tour card, and he
1148
00:54:09,445 --> 00:54:10,165
chose Liv.
1149
00:54:10,405 --> 00:54:14,085
Again, yeah, you've kind of you're young.
1150
00:54:14,565 --> 00:54:16,805
You haven't earned a lot of money in your
career.
1151
00:54:16,805 --> 00:54:19,420
Liv is giving you this x amount of money.
1152
00:54:19,420 --> 00:54:22,780
You could go play in the PGA Tour, but you
could lose your card real quick.
1153
00:54:22,940 --> 00:54:27,820
Marco Penge finished first on the race set of
buy rankings last year and was all gung ho.
1154
00:54:27,820 --> 00:54:28,940
Like, oh, Marco Penge.
1155
00:54:28,940 --> 00:54:29,739
Marco Penge.
1156
00:54:29,739 --> 00:54:33,244
He finished a hundred and fifth on the FedEx
Cup, and now he's gonna have to struggle to
1157
00:54:33,244 --> 00:54:34,765
earn his PGA tour card.
1158
00:54:34,925 --> 00:54:35,805
So, like, I get it.
1159
00:54:35,805 --> 00:54:41,244
Like, I in that aspect, I get it for McKibbon,
and I get it for other I think Elvis Smiley was
1160
00:54:41,244 --> 00:54:42,445
another guys.
1161
00:54:42,765 --> 00:54:43,085
Yeah.
1162
00:54:43,085 --> 00:54:43,805
I I get it.
1163
00:54:43,805 --> 00:54:44,285
I do.
1164
00:54:44,285 --> 00:54:46,500
You're like, and you thought I
1165
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:48,260
actually think it's smart for them.
1166
00:54:48,420 --> 00:54:48,980
Yeah.
1167
00:54:49,140 --> 00:54:54,260
Again, Michael Delisaso, and I think Caleb
Surratt was another one who plays on John Ram's
1168
00:54:54,260 --> 00:54:54,579
team.
1169
00:54:54,579 --> 00:55:01,744
Like, Eugenio Chachara was one who was the next
best Spaniard golfer, plays two years on Liv,
1170
00:55:01,744 --> 00:55:04,144
wins once, gets relegated.
1171
00:55:04,144 --> 00:55:08,305
Now he's won twice on the GP World Tour, and
he's gonna earn his PGA Tour card.
1172
00:55:08,545 --> 00:55:09,825
So, like, it's worth
1173
00:55:09,905 --> 00:55:11,825
he was I never got that about Liv.
1174
00:55:11,825 --> 00:55:13,505
They relegate them to where?
1175
00:55:14,570 --> 00:55:19,050
They have to kinda go through similar to Q
School, the PGA Tour.
1176
00:55:19,050 --> 00:55:22,570
And if you don't get it, you don't have LIV
tour status, you
1177
00:55:22,570 --> 00:55:22,889
gotta go.
1178
00:55:22,889 --> 00:55:24,809
What is their version, though?
1179
00:55:24,809 --> 00:55:29,144
Because I haven't seen one relegated golfer
come back.
1180
00:55:30,264 --> 00:55:30,744
Yeah.
1181
00:55:30,744 --> 00:55:36,744
So how it works from what I understand again,
I'm I'm not the biggest live watcher.
1182
00:55:36,744 --> 00:55:42,619
And so last year, if you finished within the
last x amount of spots on the individual race,
1183
00:55:43,019 --> 00:55:47,900
you get relegated, and then they play, like,
two or three tournaments as a q school thing
1184
00:55:47,900 --> 00:55:51,980
and the top four or five earners earn their
live tour status.
1185
00:55:51,980 --> 00:55:55,425
And if you don't, you just aren't on the live
tour anymore.
1186
00:55:55,425 --> 00:55:57,025
You gotta go figure it out yourself.
1187
00:55:57,025 --> 00:56:02,945
Now most of them just go back to the Asian tour
or the DP World Tour and play on those and gain
1188
00:56:02,945 --> 00:56:04,465
status back that way.
1189
00:56:05,425 --> 00:56:06,704
How does that work, though?
1190
00:56:06,704 --> 00:56:08,305
Do you think oh, and I know you don't know.
1191
00:56:08,305 --> 00:56:09,985
You're not the biggest live golf watcher.
1192
00:56:10,039 --> 00:56:11,640
Like, I I'm not either.
1193
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:17,800
But how would that work with someone who signs
a contract with that money up front?
1194
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,119
Do they get all of that in one go then?
1195
00:56:20,119 --> 00:56:20,519
Or That
1196
00:56:20,519 --> 00:56:22,440
that is happens if you get cut?
1197
00:56:22,679 --> 00:56:23,559
I don't yeah.
1198
00:56:23,559 --> 00:56:24,760
That was the big thing.
1199
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,954
Think it was was it Henrik Stenson this past
year?
1200
00:56:27,954 --> 00:56:28,515
Or
1201
00:56:29,394 --> 00:56:30,355
It was Stenson.
1202
00:56:30,355 --> 00:56:31,155
He got cut.
1203
00:56:31,155 --> 00:56:31,795
Yeah.
1204
00:56:32,355 --> 00:56:37,954
He signed a big contract, I assume, a good
hefty sum.
1205
00:56:38,034 --> 00:56:39,155
And right?
1206
00:56:39,155 --> 00:56:41,099
So do they still own that money?
1207
00:56:41,099 --> 00:56:44,699
Is there some clauses in the contract of if you
don't stay in this league?
1208
00:56:44,699 --> 00:56:45,980
Or that, I don't know.
1209
00:56:45,980 --> 00:56:51,179
That's it's great great question, and I don't
know if Liv will ever tell us what or if any of
1210
00:56:51,179 --> 00:56:52,699
the lube players that were relegated.
1211
00:56:52,699 --> 00:56:55,179
Like, will Stenson ever say what happened?
1212
00:56:55,179 --> 00:56:55,420
No.
1213
00:56:55,635 --> 00:56:56,515
Probably not.
1214
00:56:57,235 --> 00:57:01,235
It's just I could live, like, two more years
before it's completely dead.
1215
00:57:01,635 --> 00:57:02,114
Yeah.
1216
00:57:02,114 --> 00:57:04,594
I'm I'm shocked theirs is an investor.
1217
00:57:04,594 --> 00:57:09,635
Again, I talked about this on my back because I
we called it two weeks ago, we said it's dead
1218
00:57:09,635 --> 00:57:13,230
and then literally we recorded the podcast on a
Tuesday.
1219
00:57:13,230 --> 00:57:16,349
The next Wednesday, Liv is like, we got a new
investor.
1220
00:57:16,349 --> 00:57:17,150
I'm like, great.
1221
00:57:17,150 --> 00:57:18,750
Now I gotta redo this whole bit.
1222
00:57:18,750 --> 00:57:20,510
Like, oh, Liv is not dead.
1223
00:57:20,510 --> 00:57:21,550
They have an investor.
1224
00:57:21,550 --> 00:57:22,190
We're like, why?
1225
00:57:22,715 --> 00:57:23,514
And it's like
1226
00:57:23,755 --> 00:57:26,235
They're on life they're on life support at this
point.
1227
00:57:26,235 --> 00:57:26,474
Yeah.
1228
00:57:26,474 --> 00:57:30,554
And today, they just canceled their team
championship in Michigan.
1229
00:57:30,554 --> 00:57:35,994
So now their last event of the year is their
individual championship in Indianapolis, I
1230
00:57:35,994 --> 00:57:36,235
think.
1231
00:57:36,235 --> 00:57:38,074
So, like, that's not happening.
1232
00:57:38,074 --> 00:57:42,530
So, yeah, I I think you're gonna see some
interesting like, I again, I wouldn't be
1233
00:57:42,530 --> 00:57:49,170
shocked if Ram they do something similar for
Ram that they did to Kefka where he has to pay
1234
00:57:49,170 --> 00:57:50,530
this x amount of money.
1235
00:57:50,530 --> 00:57:51,970
He won't be in signature events.
1236
00:57:52,125 --> 00:57:54,125
He can't take sponsor invites.
1237
00:57:54,125 --> 00:57:59,804
He kinda has to play his way up into those
events, which, again, I thought was a fair deal
1238
00:57:59,804 --> 00:58:02,605
that the PGA Tour gave Brooks Koepka.
1239
00:58:02,764 --> 00:58:06,525
They extended it to Smith or Cam Smith, Bryson,
and Ram.
1240
00:58:06,525 --> 00:58:07,324
None of them took it.
1241
00:58:08,660 --> 00:58:12,420
If I were them, I would have taken it because I
know at the time Brooks only paid, like, a
1242
00:58:12,420 --> 00:58:15,860
$5,000,000 fine, which is nothing for Brooks
Koepka.
1243
00:58:16,500 --> 00:58:18,260
I'm sure the PGA Tour is gonna be like
1244
00:58:18,340 --> 00:58:22,180
Oh, Brooks was also at the end of his contract,
though, is the problem.
1245
00:58:22,180 --> 00:58:22,660
Yeah.
1246
00:58:22,660 --> 00:58:24,405
So that will be an interesting thing.
1247
00:58:24,965 --> 00:58:29,445
But, like, they'll probably ask people, like,
to pay an x amount of fine.
1248
00:58:29,445 --> 00:58:31,684
And if you're Ram or Deshambo, you have that
money.
1249
00:58:31,684 --> 00:58:33,765
But if you're someone else who You have
1250
00:58:33,845 --> 00:58:35,204
that's pennies to them.
1251
00:58:35,204 --> 00:58:35,525
Yeah.
1252
00:58:35,525 --> 00:58:40,489
If you're someone else who can't afford a
$2,000,000 fine, a $3,000,000 fine, your best
1253
00:58:40,489 --> 00:58:45,769
bet is go go to the DP World Tour, finish in
the top 10 of their rankings, and earn your PGA
1254
00:58:45,769 --> 00:58:48,329
Tour card that way, similar to what Patrick
Reed is doing.
1255
00:58:48,489 --> 00:58:52,905
He's first in the race to buy rankings and
because he won back to back events, and he's
1256
00:58:52,905 --> 00:58:57,144
gonna have full status on the PGA Tour come
next year, and we'll see what happens from
1257
00:58:57,144 --> 00:58:57,625
there.
1258
00:58:59,545 --> 00:59:00,345
Yeah.
1259
00:59:01,625 --> 00:59:02,505
Alright, man.
1260
00:59:02,505 --> 00:59:03,785
Fairway to green.
1261
00:59:04,505 --> 00:59:07,385
Shout out Kelly for putting you on because you
do a great job.
1262
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:08,199
Yeah.
1263
00:59:08,199 --> 00:59:08,360
No.
1264
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,360
It's You do you do wonderful work.
1265
00:59:10,519 --> 00:59:10,920
Thanks.
1266
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,880
It's it's been fun, and, you know, Kelly's been
great.
1267
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,880
I was learned a lot through her and got a lot
of good connections.
1268
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,320
And, again, I get to do this, which is
something I never would have thought I'd do.
1269
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:28,894
And I would say if you've never gone to PGA
show in in Orlando in January, it's a it's a
1270
00:59:28,894 --> 00:59:29,375
golf stick.
1271
00:59:29,375 --> 00:59:32,974
I have plans on I have plans on being there
this January.
1272
00:59:32,974 --> 00:59:39,420
I went for the first time this past year, and
it was outside of the people I got to interview
1273
00:59:39,420 --> 00:59:41,900
and talk with and the brands I gotta connect
with.
1274
00:59:42,139 --> 00:59:47,340
Just going around and seeing all of the
equipment, everything that goes into this
1275
00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:48,219
Like a golf course.
1276
00:59:48,219 --> 00:59:48,699
Shop.
1277
00:59:49,434 --> 00:59:54,795
Oh, it's it's I, like, walked in with Kelly,
and I was like, oh my god.
1278
00:59:54,795 --> 00:59:59,434
And I was like again, I was doing I was filming
interviews and stuff for, like, our our
1279
00:59:59,434 --> 01:00:01,755
channels and writing articles about them.
1280
01:00:01,994 --> 01:00:05,119
And I just remember, like, again, I had never
gone.
1281
01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:10,400
And so, like, all the, like, apparel is on one
side, all the equipment's on the other, and I
1282
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:14,640
just remember going back and forth, back and
forth for two days because I didn't plan very
1283
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:15,119
well.
1284
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,280
And, like, at the end of the day, like, look at
my watch.
1285
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,720
I'm like, oh, I have these amount of steps.
1286
01:00:19,074 --> 01:00:24,195
I go back home to the hotel, and my fiance and
her mom, they went to Disney that week.
1287
01:00:24,434 --> 01:00:27,155
And I had more steps than they did going around
Disney.
1288
01:00:27,155 --> 01:00:28,835
I was like, what the heck?
1289
01:00:29,235 --> 01:00:36,340
But the things you see, the conversations you
meet, I mean, I just got you you get some cool
1290
01:00:36,340 --> 01:00:38,739
gifts, some free stuff, and the connections.
1291
01:00:38,739 --> 01:00:42,180
I think just that was a big thing is the
connections being built, like, with these
1292
01:00:42,180 --> 01:00:42,579
brands.
1293
01:00:42,579 --> 01:00:48,275
So then when I started this the podcast, it's
like, oh, do you know anyone like this?
1294
01:00:48,275 --> 01:00:50,755
Or do you have any and they've been good.
1295
01:00:50,755 --> 01:00:52,914
And it it's it's really cool.
1296
01:00:52,914 --> 01:00:57,554
It's definitely one of the the cooler things
I've I've got to do since doing this.
1297
01:00:57,554 --> 01:01:01,790
So if you are planning on going for we gotta
meet there.
1298
01:01:02,030 --> 01:01:02,990
But Obviously.
1299
01:01:03,070 --> 01:01:09,790
Take a walk and, you know, it's, yeah, it's
it's a golf sickos dream, I'd say.
1300
01:01:10,990 --> 01:01:11,550
Alright.
1301
01:01:11,550 --> 01:01:13,954
Here, I plan on going.
1302
01:01:13,954 --> 01:01:19,795
So we obviously we gotta link up and play a
round of golf and just I don't know.
1303
01:01:19,795 --> 01:01:25,235
Maybe I might need a a guiding hand through the
super Yeah. You
1304
01:01:25,074 --> 01:01:27,315
You know, show because I might get lost.
1305
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:28,800
It's a it's a lot.
1306
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,239
It's, like, my second day.
1307
01:01:30,239 --> 01:01:30,800
I'm like, okay.
1308
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:31,599
I kinda get it.
1309
01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:33,760
But then, like, you, like, watch
1310
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:38,320
Did you get to try out that, that that new
launch monitor, the l m one?
1311
01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:42,640
I talked to a lot of simulator businesses there
that week.
1312
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,655
So I talked do you remember the brand?
1313
01:01:45,655 --> 01:01:49,894
Because I know I talked with Golf Zone and oh
gosh.
1314
01:01:49,894 --> 01:01:51,255
What are the other ones?
1315
01:01:52,214 --> 01:01:56,054
But there's so many different simulators and
and things there that were.
1316
01:01:56,500 --> 01:02:00,980
And then you have, like I didn't get to go to
the demo day just because as a teacher, I can't
1317
01:02:00,980 --> 01:02:03,780
take the whole week off because my job would
hate me then.
1318
01:02:04,180 --> 01:02:08,980
But, like, I know if you go, like, Monday or
Tuesday it is, like, you can go to the driving
1319
01:02:08,980 --> 01:02:13,425
range and they have, like, demo day, and there
are just people there, like, showing you how to
1320
01:02:13,425 --> 01:02:19,184
use their products and clubs and different,
like I know, like, we got a connection with,
1321
01:02:19,184 --> 01:02:20,785
like, tight eyewear.
1322
01:02:20,945 --> 01:02:24,144
And, like, they were showing us their
sunglasses, and we talked with rangefinder
1323
01:02:24,144 --> 01:02:24,625
people.
1324
01:02:24,625 --> 01:02:29,139
So if you can get to, like, that demo day,
like, I couldn't I don't think I'll be able to
1325
01:02:29,139 --> 01:02:31,539
go, but, like, that'd be something, like, you
should look into.
1326
01:02:31,539 --> 01:02:34,179
Like, demo day is really cool from what I hear
as well.
1327
01:02:35,460 --> 01:02:36,019
You know?
1328
01:02:36,019 --> 01:02:40,164
And I just gotta put this out there for anybody
who's in the PGA space terms of making
1329
01:02:40,164 --> 01:02:41,605
sunglasses and products.
1330
01:02:42,005 --> 01:02:47,764
Can someone please make some tight fitting but
not uncomfortable sunglasses that can go over
1331
01:02:47,764 --> 01:02:50,644
glasses so that I'm not having to push them up
constantly?
1332
01:02:50,644 --> 01:02:51,605
That'd be great.
1333
01:02:51,764 --> 01:02:52,085
Yeah.
1334
01:02:52,085 --> 01:02:56,349
That's a that's a again, I I don't worry about
this, but these these tight eyewear ones that
1335
01:02:56,349 --> 01:02:58,510
they've you know, I interviewed them and stuff.
1336
01:02:58,510 --> 01:03:01,869
It's they're pretty good, sunglasses.
1337
01:03:01,869 --> 01:03:02,670
They stay on.
1338
01:03:02,670 --> 01:03:05,804
They're they help with, like, green reading and
and all that.
1339
01:03:05,804 --> 01:03:07,164
Like, they show the contour.
1340
01:03:07,164 --> 01:03:12,284
So I will say I don't know what they have as
far as products for over glasses, but, again,
1341
01:03:12,284 --> 01:03:17,085
they're they're pretty good sun sunglasses that
I enjoy have been enjoying this summer, you
1342
01:03:17,085 --> 01:03:18,045
know, in my golf rounds.
1343
01:03:20,300 --> 01:03:21,099
Absolutely.
1344
01:03:22,140 --> 01:03:24,940
I gotta say, man, this has been so much fun.
1345
01:03:25,019 --> 01:03:28,700
I'm so glad that I got the chance to sit down
and talk with you.
1346
01:03:29,739 --> 01:03:33,585
Connection wise, I gotta ask, Man, you gotta
get Kelly on here.
1347
01:03:33,585 --> 01:03:35,025
I gotta have both of you on here.
1348
01:03:35,265 --> 01:03:35,824
Yeah.
1349
01:03:35,824 --> 01:03:36,625
I gotta I gotta
1350
01:03:36,625 --> 01:03:37,425
have Kelly on.
1351
01:03:37,425 --> 01:03:38,545
I gotta have you on.
1352
01:03:38,545 --> 01:03:38,785
Like
1353
01:03:39,344 --> 01:03:39,664
Yeah.
1354
01:03:39,664 --> 01:03:44,465
I know she's always, you know, being being the
the creator of it.
1355
01:03:44,465 --> 01:03:50,519
She's always busy with meetings and stuff, but
I know, like, I know we connected on LinkedIn
1356
01:03:50,519 --> 01:03:51,079
and stuff.
1357
01:03:51,079 --> 01:03:57,719
So I know she's she's on LinkedIn and Instagram
like I am, and I know, Bubba has I think was
1358
01:03:57,719 --> 01:03:59,079
gonna reach out to her as well.
1359
01:03:59,079 --> 01:04:03,319
So she's definitely a great resource, and
she'll definitely have some cool stories of,
1360
01:04:03,319 --> 01:04:08,014
you know, starting up and and even playing
stories that are that are really cool.
1361
01:04:08,014 --> 01:04:12,574
And she definitely could give you some some
advice on, you know, creating a a media company
1362
01:04:12,574 --> 01:04:14,255
because she's she's done a great job.
1363
01:04:14,255 --> 01:04:17,614
It's it's something that, you know, watching
her do everything.
1364
01:04:17,614 --> 01:04:21,219
Like, we went, I went with her to the people.
1365
01:04:21,380 --> 01:04:27,699
Just love to get her perspective as a as a
woman in the space who's trying to get more of
1366
01:04:27,699 --> 01:04:34,684
an eye, not just on the LPGA stuff, but just
more equity for, you know, women and girls in
1367
01:04:34,684 --> 01:04:37,565
golf as a whole because I feel like you're
right.
1368
01:04:38,844 --> 01:04:43,324
The girls, like, you've got your Nelly Cordas,
but other than that, you don't hear about
1369
01:04:43,324 --> 01:04:49,349
anybody else because there's not really that
much dedicated coverage to the LPGA as there is
1370
01:04:49,349 --> 01:04:50,390
the PGA.
1371
01:04:50,789 --> 01:04:51,110
Yeah.
1372
01:04:51,110 --> 01:04:54,869
She she'd be a she's a great advocate for it,
she'd be a great guest for that.
1373
01:04:54,869 --> 01:05:01,425
And we talk about in our podcast all the time
is, like, the LPGA has so many talented golfers
1374
01:05:01,425 --> 01:05:06,224
that, like, we're so excited that they're gonna
have the women's TGL starting at, I think, at
1375
01:05:06,224 --> 01:05:08,065
the end of this winter is is coming.
1376
01:05:08,065 --> 01:05:11,985
And, you know, they had a new broadcast deal
with the Golf Channel and NBC that, you know,
1377
01:05:11,985 --> 01:05:16,789
gave them more better broadcasting rights in
hours and more time to tell stories.
1378
01:05:16,789 --> 01:05:21,989
So I think that's been a really cool feature of
the LPGA Tour this season, just their enhanced
1379
01:05:21,989 --> 01:05:22,630
broadcast.
1380
01:05:22,630 --> 01:05:26,630
And, you know, they have the Solheim Cup this
year, which is pretty much the women's version
1381
01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:28,914
of the Ryder Cup, and that's always really fun.
1382
01:05:28,914 --> 01:05:31,394
It's in Netherlands this year, so that's really
cool.
1383
01:05:31,394 --> 01:05:34,194
And like you said, like, Nelly Korda is Nelly
Korda.
1384
01:05:34,194 --> 01:05:38,194
She's one of the best players in golf period,
like men, women,
1385
01:05:38,194 --> 01:05:38,675
like women.
1386
01:05:38,835 --> 01:05:40,514
A whole league on just one person.
1387
01:05:40,514 --> 01:05:40,914
No.
1388
01:05:40,914 --> 01:05:46,510
What she's done this year in the major and same
with Hayron Yu who's won two majors, you know,
1389
01:05:46,510 --> 01:05:47,630
they've been really good.
1390
01:05:47,630 --> 01:05:51,710
I mean, Gino Tidacon, who's the number two
player in the world, she just won for the tenth
1391
01:05:51,710 --> 01:05:53,070
time this past weekend.
1392
01:05:53,230 --> 01:05:57,304
She's still looking for kind of that major
breakout, but, like, she's really good.
1393
01:05:57,304 --> 01:06:00,105
She's won their tour championship the last two
years.
1394
01:06:00,105 --> 01:06:04,664
Like, they're up to, like, this last little run
on the PGA Tour.
1395
01:06:04,664 --> 01:06:10,585
I think the LPGA Tour had a lot better young
stars, like, winning and, like, winning
1396
01:06:10,849 --> 01:06:11,329
quickly.
1397
01:06:11,329 --> 01:06:11,730
Like, lot
1398
01:06:11,730 --> 01:06:14,450
more just didn't have the same amount of
coverage.
1399
01:06:14,530 --> 01:06:14,849
Yeah.
1400
01:06:14,849 --> 01:06:15,730
And that's the problem.
1401
01:06:15,730 --> 01:06:20,929
And that's a shame because they have these
people and these women who are absolutely
1402
01:06:20,929 --> 01:06:24,224
phenomenal, and they're not getting that
spotlight that they should.
1403
01:06:24,224 --> 01:06:24,545
Yeah.
1404
01:06:24,545 --> 01:06:29,264
And so I I think Kelly's done a really good
job, and I I will fill in for writing for the
1405
01:06:29,264 --> 01:06:31,905
LPGA Tour and Epson Tour stuff here and there.
1406
01:06:31,905 --> 01:06:36,464
But, like, my my coworker, Brian, who does the
package, he does all our LPGA Tour stuff.
1407
01:06:36,464 --> 01:06:37,344
He does a really good job.
1408
01:06:37,900 --> 01:06:42,380
I know we just added another girl who's gonna
do more of the Epson tour stuff as well.
1409
01:06:42,380 --> 01:06:47,900
So, again, yeah, it it's it's really cool to
see, and we try to highlight that on our
1410
01:06:47,900 --> 01:06:48,380
podcast.
1411
01:06:48,380 --> 01:06:52,380
It's you know, I'm trying to learn more about
the ladies European tour and more about the
1412
01:06:52,380 --> 01:06:57,315
LPGA tour, but I think it's made me a better
golf content creator, whatever you wanna call
1413
01:06:57,315 --> 01:07:00,835
me that, you know, it's not just the PGA tour.
1414
01:07:00,755 --> 01:07:02,035
Not just PGA world.
1415
01:07:02,035 --> 01:07:09,860
You are a golf content creator slash pundit in
the space now.
1416
01:07:10,500 --> 01:07:10,900
Yeah.
1417
01:07:10,900 --> 01:07:17,059
I mean, it's it's something I'd never again,
two years ago when I sent in that application,
1418
01:07:17,140 --> 01:07:21,300
I would have never thought I'd be on a podcast
or multiple podcasts and all that.
1419
01:07:21,300 --> 01:07:23,255
So it's definitely cool.
1420
01:07:23,255 --> 01:07:26,775
It's something that is, like, a pinch me thing.
1421
01:07:26,775 --> 01:07:28,695
Like, am I doing?
1422
01:07:28,775 --> 01:07:34,775
Like, again, if even if it's reaching very
limited people, I still enjoy doing it.
1423
01:07:34,775 --> 01:07:35,894
I enjoy talking with people.
1424
01:07:35,894 --> 01:07:36,614
I know the feeling.
1425
01:07:37,289 --> 01:07:40,730
Like, I can't go It's surreal getting to do
this.
1426
01:07:40,730 --> 01:07:46,329
I can't go have an hour conversation about golf
things with with my brother.
1427
01:07:46,329 --> 01:07:49,130
I can maybe talk to him a couple minutes, but
he's like, I don't I don't play it.
1428
01:07:49,130 --> 01:07:50,010
I don't wanna talk about it.
1429
01:07:50,010 --> 01:07:54,425
Or my friend or my fiance will listen to me,
but she's like, alright.
1430
01:07:54,425 --> 01:07:55,945
I I don't wanna talk about it anymore.
1431
01:07:55,945 --> 01:07:56,425
So
1432
01:07:56,985 --> 01:07:59,065
It's like through this one, out that one.
1433
01:07:59,065 --> 01:08:04,500
I will say I she is a trooper, and I love her
for the fact that, like, we plan vacations
1434
01:08:04,500 --> 01:08:06,420
around PGA Tour events sometimes.
1435
01:08:06,420 --> 01:08:12,739
Like, I'm in Buffalo, New York, so they have
the, RBC Canadian Open is usually up in, like,
1436
01:08:12,739 --> 01:08:13,619
the Toronto area.
1437
01:08:13,619 --> 01:08:15,300
So we've gone, like, four or five years.
1438
01:08:15,994 --> 01:08:20,795
We've gone out to Connecticut for the Travelers
Championship when the PJ championship was in
1439
01:08:20,795 --> 01:08:21,994
Oak Hill and Rochester.
1440
01:08:21,994 --> 01:08:24,234
We went last year, drove to Pittsburgh.
1441
01:08:24,234 --> 01:08:26,795
Did you get to go to Bethpage Black for the
Ryder Cup?
1442
01:08:26,875 --> 01:08:27,274
No.
1443
01:08:27,274 --> 01:08:33,519
So, unfortunately, just my schedule and how
expensive it was and and all that, that was one
1444
01:08:33,519 --> 01:08:35,039
where I was like, I can't do it.
1445
01:08:35,039 --> 01:08:36,559
I I coach soccer in the fall.
1446
01:08:36,559 --> 01:08:41,519
So, you know, to take you know, miss a game in
a couple practices wouldn't have been feasible
1447
01:08:41,519 --> 01:08:41,840
for me.
1448
01:08:42,715 --> 01:08:45,034
But, you know, I'm I'm hoping to get to
someone.
1449
01:08:45,034 --> 01:08:51,354
I went to the Presence Cup in North Carolina a
couple years ago when I was at Quail Hollow as
1450
01:08:51,354 --> 01:08:51,994
Spectator.
1451
01:08:51,994 --> 01:08:53,194
That was really cool.
1452
01:08:54,234 --> 01:08:55,755
I'd love to get to a Ryder Cup.
1453
01:08:55,755 --> 01:08:56,635
That that's a goal.
1454
01:08:56,635 --> 01:09:00,440
I you know, going to Ireland would be a dream
to to go do that, but I don't think
1455
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,560
love to go to my first PGA event, to be honest,
man.
1456
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:08,840
That's my that's my first one on the bucket
list is getting to go to my first PGA event as
1457
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:09,159
media.
1458
01:09:10,034 --> 01:09:10,435
Yeah.
1459
01:09:10,435 --> 01:09:12,515
I I've never gone as media, so I will say that.
1460
01:09:12,515 --> 01:09:13,875
I would just go as a fan.
1461
01:09:14,994 --> 01:09:16,914
You know, it's hopefully coming.
1462
01:09:16,914 --> 01:09:20,994
You know, I've talked with Kelly about getting
you, like, some, like, media things and
1463
01:09:20,994 --> 01:09:23,659
possibly getting to some events, and we're
working on that.
1464
01:09:23,659 --> 01:09:27,500
Her and I are trying to get the PGA Tour to,
like, you know, give us something just to see
1465
01:09:27,500 --> 01:09:28,380
if I can.
1466
01:09:28,780 --> 01:09:32,860
But it it's definitely just a cool experience
just to go as a fan.
1467
01:09:32,860 --> 01:09:33,340
Who knows?
1468
01:09:33,340 --> 01:09:35,100
Maybe we'll meet up at one of these events.
1469
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:35,420
Yeah.
1470
01:09:35,420 --> 01:09:35,979
There you go.
1471
01:09:35,979 --> 01:09:36,860
I mean, that'd be cool.
1472
01:09:36,860 --> 01:09:41,895
I know just being around people like that is
always a good time.
1473
01:09:41,895 --> 01:09:46,135
And when you go to the PGA show in January,
you're gonna see this is the one thing that I
1474
01:09:46,135 --> 01:09:50,614
didn't realize was the thing was, like, the
community and the environment there is, like,
1475
01:09:51,079 --> 01:09:53,000
everyone is, like, so helpful.
1476
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,760
And, like, even though they do the same thing
as you, they're gonna be like, oh, what do you
1477
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:57,079
need?
1478
01:09:57,079 --> 01:10:00,439
Like, how can I help you grow, or do you want
some advice in this?
1479
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:04,519
And, like, business cards have some business
cards because, like, I'm trading them.
1480
01:10:04,519 --> 01:10:06,514
Like, there's, like, sticks of gum almost.
1481
01:10:06,514 --> 01:10:08,274
Like, it's just, like, everyone's has them.
1482
01:10:08,274 --> 01:10:09,234
Like, oh, what's yours?
1483
01:10:09,234 --> 01:10:10,034
What's yours?
1484
01:10:10,274 --> 01:10:14,594
Just in, like, in the media room, like, I sat
down and just, like, eating lunch, and this guy
1485
01:10:14,594 --> 01:10:16,594
just starts and he's like, oh, what are you
doing?
1486
01:10:16,594 --> 01:10:17,795
We just talked and reached in.
1487
01:10:17,795 --> 01:10:22,179
And now, like, we he, like, has a newsletter,
and he followed our newsletter.
1488
01:10:22,179 --> 01:10:25,859
So it's just these random things where you
don't think you're gonna meet anyone.
1489
01:10:26,100 --> 01:10:31,060
It's like, oh, I'm just eating my Chick fil A
lunch, and someone is like we just started up a
1490
01:10:31,060 --> 01:10:32,340
conversation about what we do.
1491
01:10:32,340 --> 01:10:35,824
And it's it's really it's a really cool space
to be a part of.
1492
01:10:36,864 --> 01:10:37,425
Absolutely.
1493
01:10:37,425 --> 01:10:40,385
The golf community as a whole is just really
nice.
1494
01:10:40,385 --> 01:10:44,625
It brings people from all backgrounds in and I
don't know, man.
1495
01:10:44,625 --> 01:10:46,064
It's just it's a special place.
1496
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:47,840
Yeah.
1497
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,840
I mean, it's it's everywhere.
1498
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:55,359
With that said, this being a special place,
what is your place?
1499
01:10:55,359 --> 01:10:58,880
What is your place where we can find Nathan
Rarek?
1500
01:10:58,880 --> 01:10:59,920
Where where are you?
1501
01:11:00,335 --> 01:11:03,534
Luac, plug I need all the shameless plugs.
1502
01:11:03,534 --> 01:11:04,175
Let's go.
1503
01:11:04,335 --> 01:11:04,734
Yeah.
1504
01:11:04,734 --> 01:11:08,734
So, I mean, this is weird to do because I
usually do this for people on my show.
1505
01:11:10,175 --> 01:11:15,375
But I'd say the the first one is check out Fair
Degree, and we do outside of my writing, we
1506
01:11:15,375 --> 01:11:20,069
have so many good writers, and and Kelly does a
really good job with her writing and her
1507
01:11:20,069 --> 01:11:20,630
podcast.
1508
01:11:20,630 --> 01:11:22,469
So you can get all our podcasts there.
1509
01:11:22,869 --> 01:11:24,630
So that's ferrodegree.com.
1510
01:11:24,949 --> 01:11:27,270
On Instagram, I'm I'm Nathan Rare at golf.
1511
01:11:27,270 --> 01:11:28,630
You just search that up.
1512
01:11:28,789 --> 01:11:29,350
You know, I have
1513
01:11:29,590 --> 01:11:29,829
K.
1514
01:11:29,829 --> 01:11:34,885
Podcastings and clips there, and, you know, I
have a couple videos of me playing some holes,
1515
01:11:34,885 --> 01:11:35,925
you know, not good golf.
1516
01:11:35,925 --> 01:11:42,725
I do have one coming tomorrow that will maybe
was one of the shocking ones that I mean, I can
1517
01:11:42,725 --> 01:11:43,525
give you a sneak peek.
1518
01:11:43,525 --> 01:11:46,565
I was filming it, and I hit probably the best
shot of the day.
1519
01:11:47,359 --> 01:11:50,880
And I was like, oh, that's that's, like, the
hole in one.
1520
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,159
Of course, I'm playing alone.
1521
01:11:52,159 --> 01:11:55,760
Luckily, I'm filming it, and it goes, like,
over the stick to, like, 20 feet.
1522
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,119
I'm like, oh, it's not close.
1523
01:11:57,119 --> 01:11:58,319
Drain the birdie butt.
1524
01:11:58,319 --> 01:12:00,560
So that that's coming to Instagram, I think,
tomorrow.
1525
01:12:00,935 --> 01:12:01,414
You know?
1526
01:12:01,414 --> 01:12:04,295
I bet you that pitch mark was right next to
that hole, though.
1527
01:12:04,454 --> 01:12:04,774
Yeah.
1528
01:12:04,774 --> 01:12:05,494
It was close.
1529
01:12:05,494 --> 01:12:06,534
I was like, ugh, man.
1530
01:12:06,534 --> 01:12:11,814
You know, my first couple, you know, hole
vlogs, one was a a bogey or a double bogey
1531
01:12:11,814 --> 01:12:15,255
because I hit one out left out of bounds, and
the next one was a par.
1532
01:12:15,255 --> 01:12:16,949
So, you know, steadily getting better.
1533
01:12:16,949 --> 01:12:23,189
So Nathan Rarek Golf, the podcasts are the
draw, and the other one is the teacher and the
1534
01:12:23,189 --> 01:12:23,590
pro.
1535
01:12:23,590 --> 01:12:27,670
You can find them on wherever you get your
podcasts, you know, Apple Podcast, Spotify, or
1536
01:12:27,670 --> 01:12:29,189
right on our website, fair to green.
1537
01:12:29,895 --> 01:12:34,054
And then, you know, LinkedIn, Nathan Rarek
always down to, you know, connect and message
1538
01:12:34,135 --> 01:12:35,095
with people there.
1539
01:12:35,095 --> 01:12:37,015
I've found some great people.
1540
01:12:37,015 --> 01:12:41,015
I've got a lot of good guests through Instagram
messaging and LinkedIn messaging.
1541
01:12:41,015 --> 01:12:42,774
So, you know, those are my things.
1542
01:12:42,774 --> 01:12:45,800
And, again, it's it's been fun talking with
you.
1543
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:50,199
And, again, hopefully, come on, get to this
again sometime soon.
1544
01:12:50,199 --> 01:12:53,640
And, you know, thanks for having me on and
shouting me out so much.
1545
01:12:54,359 --> 01:12:54,920
Hey, man.
1546
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:55,399
No problem.
1547
01:12:55,694 --> 01:12:56,175
Hey.
1548
01:12:56,175 --> 01:13:00,414
Maybe, next time around, I'll come on your
stuff.
1549
01:13:00,654 --> 01:13:01,054
You know?
1550
01:13:01,054 --> 01:13:01,135
Yeah.
1551
01:13:01,135 --> 01:13:01,454
Definitely.
1552
01:13:01,454 --> 01:13:03,614
That's something fairway to green for you.
1553
01:13:03,694 --> 01:13:04,014
Yeah.
1554
01:13:04,014 --> 01:13:09,180
Definitely something we can do, and, you know,
we usually record, you know, sometime early in
1555
01:13:09,180 --> 01:13:13,500
the week and love to have you on, you know, get
some some of your perspective from the
1556
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:17,340
tournaments because I know people are probably
sick of hearing just Brian and I all the time
1557
01:13:17,739 --> 01:13:20,699
talking about, you know, who our favorite
golfers is.
1558
01:13:20,699 --> 01:13:23,695
My my cohost love cohost loves JJ Spawn.
1559
01:13:23,695 --> 01:13:26,494
So when he won the US Open, like, it was like,
alright.
1560
01:13:26,494 --> 01:13:27,935
You Oh, he was over the man.
1561
01:13:28,255 --> 01:13:28,815
Oh, yeah.
1562
01:13:28,815 --> 01:13:33,135
And, you know, this past, you know, talking
about the Ryder Cup and then all that.
1563
01:13:33,135 --> 01:13:38,119
You know, we've we've had some good debates on
on that and, you know, Wyndham Clark stuff and
1564
01:13:38,119 --> 01:13:38,760
stuff like that.
1565
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:39,719
So adding a third person
1566
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:44,920
We call over here at the Scratch Project, we
call Wyndham Clark, Wyndham Clark because every
1567
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:48,439
time he's in a US Open, man, it's he looks like
he's gonna win it.
1568
01:13:48,744 --> 01:13:49,145
Yeah.
1569
01:13:49,145 --> 01:13:52,104
He's he's one of the more I don't I don't know
if I call him
1570
01:13:52,265 --> 01:13:54,744
He's had a solid season this year too.
1571
01:13:54,744 --> 01:13:55,225
Oh, yes.
1572
01:13:55,225 --> 01:13:56,904
Five in FedEx points.
1573
01:13:57,145 --> 01:13:57,385
Yeah.
1574
01:13:57,385 --> 01:14:02,170
The US Open win, he absolutely blitzed the
field and was at Colonial where he shot
1575
01:14:02,170 --> 01:14:04,569
whatever final round 61 or whatever.
1576
01:14:04,569 --> 01:14:07,930
When when his putter gets hot, it is It's hot.
1577
01:14:07,930 --> 01:14:11,050
It's unlike any That ping that ping
1578
01:14:11,050 --> 01:14:13,529
putter is incredible for him.
1579
01:14:13,689 --> 01:14:13,930
Yeah.
1580
01:14:13,930 --> 01:14:15,529
The onset putter.
1581
01:14:15,609 --> 01:14:16,090
Yeah.
1582
01:14:16,090 --> 01:14:18,774
It's he's he's a world class player.
1583
01:14:18,774 --> 01:14:24,454
He's gonna be on the President's Cup this team
this year and probably a Ryder Cup team again
1584
01:14:24,454 --> 01:14:25,175
next year.
1585
01:14:25,175 --> 01:14:27,814
He didn't play too bad a couple years ago when
he was on it.
1586
01:14:27,814 --> 01:14:29,335
Didn't play last year at Beth Page.
1587
01:14:29,335 --> 01:14:34,909
But, yeah, it's it's always good to, you know,
get some other people's perspective on what's
1588
01:14:34,909 --> 01:14:36,270
going on in the golf world.
1589
01:14:36,909 --> 01:14:37,390
Alright.
1590
01:14:37,390 --> 01:14:39,710
I gotta ask this, though, before we get out of
here.
1591
01:14:41,149 --> 01:14:45,564
What is the shot that got you, like, completely
hooked on golf?
1592
01:14:45,564 --> 01:14:47,324
Who is your favorite golfer?
1593
01:14:47,564 --> 01:14:52,765
And what is your favorite course that you've
played and a bucket list course that you wanna
1594
01:14:52,765 --> 01:14:54,604
play before it's all said and done?
1595
01:14:54,685 --> 01:14:55,085
Yeah.
1596
01:14:55,085 --> 01:14:56,845
That's those are some great questions.
1597
01:14:56,845 --> 01:14:58,899
The the my shot, I don't know.
1598
01:14:58,899 --> 01:15:00,739
I'll save that one for last.
1599
01:15:00,899 --> 01:15:03,139
My favorite golfer is Justin Thomas.
1600
01:15:03,139 --> 01:15:10,179
I think I know again, you asked my cohost and
you asked Kelly, they can't stand Justin
1601
01:15:10,179 --> 01:15:11,139
Thomas, and I get it.
1602
01:15:11,139 --> 01:15:12,020
He's not for everyone.
1603
01:15:12,935 --> 01:15:17,414
Something about his win when he got really
popular in two thousand seventeen and sixteen
1604
01:15:17,414 --> 01:15:22,055
when he had that five win season and won the
PGA championship that year down at Coral
1605
01:15:22,055 --> 01:15:22,774
Hollow.
1606
01:15:22,854 --> 01:15:27,760
I think, one, he just has a good energy about
him.
1607
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:32,159
Like, he is very creative, and I think that's
what I'd like.
1608
01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:34,719
It's just, like, he's not always hitting the
same stock.
1609
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,600
He's not DJ where DJ is only hitting fades.
1610
01:15:37,994 --> 01:15:43,114
Like, JT is shaping the ball and being creative
with the ball, and you can see that on the tee.
1611
01:15:43,114 --> 01:15:45,835
And then around the green, it's just like, oh
my word.
1612
01:15:45,835 --> 01:15:47,594
This guy is otherworldly with the wedge and
1613
01:15:47,755 --> 01:15:48,715
He's a wizard.
1614
01:15:48,795 --> 01:15:49,114
Yeah.
1615
01:15:49,114 --> 01:15:52,395
Now putting wise, that's kind of his downfall,
and he'd probably say that too.
1616
01:15:52,395 --> 01:15:55,380
But Justin Thomas, and he's always not gonna
hurt.
1617
01:15:55,380 --> 01:15:56,420
I like being well dressed.
1618
01:15:56,420 --> 01:15:57,539
He's always well dressed.
1619
01:15:57,539 --> 01:15:59,699
So he's probably my favorite right now.
1620
01:16:00,340 --> 01:16:02,659
I'm a big Matt Fitzpatrick fan as well.
1621
01:16:02,659 --> 01:16:06,100
Just for whatever reason, I just like the way
he goes about things.
1622
01:16:06,100 --> 01:16:10,685
I think the writing every shot down and the
golf sicko in this in me loves that.
1623
01:16:10,685 --> 01:16:13,804
So that's another one that I really enjoy
watching as well.
1624
01:16:14,524 --> 01:16:18,524
My favorite course I've ever played it's tough.
1625
01:16:18,524 --> 01:16:24,250
I haven't played a ton of crazy golf courses or
any of, like, the big resort ones like like
1626
01:16:24,250 --> 01:16:26,970
Pinehurst or Bandon or any of that.
1627
01:16:26,970 --> 01:16:28,250
I'd say there's one in Buffalo.
1628
01:16:28,250 --> 01:16:32,810
It's called The Links At Ivy Ridge, and it's
just you know, Buffalo's pretty flat, but this
1629
01:16:32,810 --> 01:16:39,574
one is hilly, and it's difficult, and it's
like, they have, like, a 600 yard par five that
1630
01:16:39,574 --> 01:16:44,055
is just it's an impossible hole that is just
it's so much fun to play.
1631
01:16:44,215 --> 01:16:45,975
So that's probably my favorite golf course.
1632
01:16:45,975 --> 01:16:46,855
I like playing there.
1633
01:16:49,289 --> 01:16:56,409
My dream course, I guess, would be Augusta
would be the generic one, I would say.
1634
01:16:57,210 --> 01:16:59,770
I think the one that again, I I mentioned it.
1635
01:16:59,770 --> 01:17:03,050
I didn't mention it, but I think Tobacco Road
in in North Carolina.
1636
01:17:04,264 --> 01:17:10,264
The the views and the red clay and and all of
that look great.
1637
01:17:10,264 --> 01:17:14,185
My my friend's boss actually got to play it
once, so I talked to him about it.
1638
01:17:14,185 --> 01:17:16,585
And he was like, if you're a golf person, you
gotta go down there.
1639
01:17:17,310 --> 01:17:21,630
So that'd be the one that's probably, like, not
a common answer and not many people would say
1640
01:17:21,630 --> 01:17:22,989
it would be Tobacco Road.
1641
01:17:23,229 --> 01:17:31,854
And then the the golf shot, I don't know if I
have one specific, like, thinking back to it.
1642
01:17:31,854 --> 01:17:37,854
I can remember when I first started getting
into it, I would I was a camp counselor, in the
1643
01:17:37,854 --> 01:17:42,655
summertime, you know, trying to be that good
education major working with kids all the time.
1644
01:17:42,655 --> 01:17:46,539
And my shifts, I think, started, like, 10AM,
and there was a golf course right down the
1645
01:17:46,539 --> 01:17:47,579
street from the school.
1646
01:17:47,739 --> 01:17:51,260
So I would go there occasionally, like, once or
twice a week, play nine holes, and then go to
1647
01:17:51,260 --> 01:17:51,500
work.
1648
01:17:51,500 --> 01:17:55,020
And I remember it was it's one of the par fives
there.
1649
01:17:55,020 --> 01:17:56,140
It's like the home course here.
1650
01:17:56,765 --> 01:18:01,564
And it it's not super long, but, you know, as a
bad player, it's a three shot hole.
1651
01:18:01,564 --> 01:18:08,765
And I remember being off their green maybe 10
yards and, you know, hitting a chip and it just
1652
01:18:08,765 --> 01:18:13,550
rolling and, you know, being eight in the
morning, the ball line and the dew line just
1653
01:18:13,550 --> 01:18:17,310
matching up, and it just goes in the hole, and
I just go freak out.
1654
01:18:17,310 --> 01:18:18,590
And I'm like, I don't know what to do.
1655
01:18:18,590 --> 01:18:19,149
I'm alone.
1656
01:18:19,149 --> 01:18:20,270
There's no one on the golfer.
1657
01:18:20,350 --> 01:18:25,229
So, like, I I filmed from where I was, and I
filmed all the way up to the hole with the dew
1658
01:18:25,229 --> 01:18:27,755
line mark, And I was like, alright.
1659
01:18:27,755 --> 01:18:29,435
This is this is phenomenal.
1660
01:18:29,435 --> 01:18:33,994
So I I would say that's probably the, like, the
one golf shot that sticks in my head to this
1661
01:18:33,994 --> 01:18:36,394
day from, you know, eight, nine years ago.
1662
01:18:38,154 --> 01:18:38,475
Yeah.
1663
01:18:38,699 --> 01:18:43,420
I mean, that's one of those moments where you
make that and you're just like, ah, no one's
1664
01:18:43,420 --> 01:18:44,539
here to see it.
1665
01:18:44,619 --> 01:18:45,100
I know.
1666
01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:47,340
I mean, like, how many times has it happened
since?
1667
01:18:47,340 --> 01:18:48,220
Not many.
1668
01:18:48,300 --> 01:18:50,060
But still yeah.
1669
01:18:50,380 --> 01:18:51,820
I still have the video saved.
1670
01:18:51,820 --> 01:18:54,195
I can I pull it up and, you know, I can see it?
1671
01:18:54,195 --> 01:18:55,555
It always pops up in my memory.
1672
01:18:55,555 --> 01:18:56,515
So it's like, oh, yeah.
1673
01:18:56,515 --> 01:18:57,155
I remember that.
1674
01:18:57,155 --> 01:18:58,114
So it's it's cool.
1675
01:18:58,114 --> 01:19:00,195
Here's something funny.
1676
01:19:00,195 --> 01:19:03,155
And my wife, actually, she can tell you about
this too.
1677
01:19:03,155 --> 01:19:04,435
She's off to the side here.
1678
01:19:04,435 --> 01:19:10,060
But it's the stuff you don't get on camera that
drives you nuts because you'll do some of the
1679
01:19:10,060 --> 01:19:11,500
best stuff off camera.
1680
01:19:11,500 --> 01:19:15,260
Like, sweetie, tell him what I did yesterday.
1681
01:19:15,579 --> 01:19:17,819
Oh, you sound like a 30 foot foot?
1682
01:19:17,820 --> 01:19:18,539
Yeah.
1683
01:19:18,859 --> 01:19:19,420
Yeah.
1684
01:19:20,220 --> 01:19:20,539
Yeah.
1685
01:19:21,864 --> 01:19:22,264
No.
1686
01:19:22,264 --> 01:19:23,784
It's it's always that.
1687
01:19:23,784 --> 01:19:29,225
Like, I remember I was playing I think I was
playing with my fiance's dad and her two
1688
01:19:29,225 --> 01:19:32,104
brothers, and it was the last hole.
1689
01:19:32,104 --> 01:19:36,689
And it's just it's a I like to draw the ball,
and it it's a dogleg left for a lefty.
1690
01:19:36,689 --> 01:19:37,810
It's just an awkward visual.
1691
01:19:37,810 --> 01:19:42,289
And I just, you know, make a mess of the hole
and finally get to the green in, like, five
1692
01:19:42,289 --> 01:19:44,210
shots, and I'm 30 feet away.
1693
01:19:44,210 --> 01:19:45,890
And I just walk up to the putt.
1694
01:19:45,890 --> 01:19:47,170
I quickly read it.
1695
01:19:47,170 --> 01:19:48,930
I hit it and goes in the hole.
1696
01:19:49,465 --> 01:19:53,385
I'm like, this has no business of going in, but
it did.
1697
01:19:53,385 --> 01:19:55,545
Like, this is so stupid.
1698
01:19:55,545 --> 01:19:58,904
But I love it, and that's what makes the game
so fun.
1699
01:19:59,864 --> 01:20:04,345
You know, golf is a four letter word, and
sometimes it has us saying other four letter
1700
01:20:04,345 --> 01:20:04,664
words.
1701
01:20:04,664 --> 01:20:05,919
That's all I'm gonna say.
1702
01:20:06,159 --> 01:20:07,599
That that it does.
1703
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:08,319
Well,
1704
01:20:10,079 --> 01:20:13,760
Nathan, I am so glad that you could join me
today.
1705
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,439
We gotta do this again.
1706
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:16,800
We gotta get Kelly on.
1707
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:18,159
We gotta get you both on.
1708
01:20:18,159 --> 01:20:20,239
I'd love to have Brian on with you as well.
1709
01:20:20,635 --> 01:20:20,954
Yeah.
1710
01:20:20,954 --> 01:20:22,715
We just gotta get this going.
1711
01:20:24,074 --> 01:20:25,515
This was a lot of fun.
1712
01:20:26,155 --> 01:20:28,314
I'm glad the people know where to find you.
1713
01:20:28,635 --> 01:20:31,835
This will be up on YouTube, hopefully, within
the hour
1714
01:20:32,155 --> 01:20:32,475
Okay.
1715
01:20:32,475 --> 01:20:38,859
After we're done so they can go watch this
back, enjoy all the, you know, golf sicko talk
1716
01:20:38,859 --> 01:20:39,979
that we did today.
1717
01:20:40,219 --> 01:20:41,819
Hopefully, there's more to come.
1718
01:20:42,300 --> 01:20:46,859
And, yeah, man, we should, we should link up
outside of this and try to get something going.
1719
01:20:47,515 --> 01:20:47,994
For sure.
1720
01:20:47,994 --> 01:20:48,235
Yeah.
1721
01:20:48,235 --> 01:20:48,475
No.
1722
01:20:48,475 --> 01:20:52,715
Thanks again for having me on, and I'm always
down to to talk golf anytime.
1723
01:20:53,355 --> 01:20:53,994
Alright.
1724
01:20:53,994 --> 01:20:58,555
This was Nathan Rarek of Fairway to Green on
Pods Plays Golf.
1725
01:20:58,555 --> 01:21:00,074
Thank you for joining us.
1726
01:21:00,395 --> 01:21:02,074
Everybody, have a good one.