S1 E4 | Crypto's Three Body Problem w/Toby Shorin, Laura Lotti, and Sam Hart (Other Internet)

In this episode, we’re speaking with Toby Shorin, Laura Lotti, and Sam Hart from Other Internet about their most recent article on crypto’s three body problem, clarifying some common misconceptions about headless brands, and getting their take on the current state of onchain culture.

The idea for this collaboration or interview came about when we had Jon Wu on the podcast last season in S8 E4 which aired on May 9, 2024. In that episode, Jon criticized the concept of a “headless brand” that was coined by the Other Internet team back in 2019, and Toby Shorin responded that Jon’s interpretation of “headless brands” was not what the authors had intended when they wrote the article. It turns out that many people have similar interpretations of “headless brands” that Jon had, so it was helpful and productive to give the Other Internet team a chance to clarify what they meant. 

We then discuss their latest article on crypto’s three body problem and give the team a chance to speak about it for the first time since publishing the article, and finally I asked Sam about a spicy post he wrote recently that called out a lot of the current onchain culture for being “completely soulless” and a “cultural wasteland.” 

​Toby, Laura, and Sam were nominated for Rehashed by Diana Chen and voted onto the podcast by Richie Bonilla, Triumph, fifthworldzach, Tim Black, Birb, Amy Jung, Rachael Amy, and Anay Sim.

TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

3:26 Clarifying “headless brands”

9:42 Crypto’s Three Body Problem

37:14 Current onchain culture is a complete “cultural wasteland”

40:24 Why we shouldn’t talk about onboarding the masses to crypto

42:49 Upcoming new book from Other Internet

45:07 Follow Toby, Laura, and Sam

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