The Wrong Narrator | Ep. 342

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I'll go to quick quick question. I want to hear
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your thoughts on to know what's on your mind. I'm
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got a quick quick question for you. The answer is
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not recording, and I'm just by the week and talk tonight.
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So what's your favorite you again? What d you love?
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You see? Best friends? And comedy?
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If there's an answer that I'm gonna find it, I
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think you'll have a great time.
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I think you have a great time.
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You We're back.
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It's the podcast. We wanted to jump right into it
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this week. Sore in huge news. I think you can
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already tell got a new hat. Dad's got a new hat.
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Really happy with this hat. It's uh, it fits my
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head better than a lot of other hats. It's comfortable.
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I could do a frontwards or backwards. I think I could.
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I could do sports in it.
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I could run in it, But but I want to
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keep it nice, so I'm probably let's.
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Take it for a spin. Can you put it on
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backwards for a second without doing too much damage to
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your headphones? So yeah, let me just see. Yeah, Okay,
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that's a solid hat, so really good ventilation. How's your it?
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Really does it? It's great?
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Is it a golf hat.
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I don't know it's a it's under armour, and I
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feel like, having done no research into this, I think
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under armour is like a pretty cop coated brand.
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I don't know if that's I don't think that's true.
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It's not.
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Okay, great, Nah, you're okay. I think maybe it's possible
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that cops are wearing that like neoprene, but it's I
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think it's like it is, it's all athlete coded. I think,
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I think I remember is finally athlete coded.
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Every once in a while, I've come across something that
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that I've learned was owned by a subculture of some kind,
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and I don't I don't know how pervasive is it
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it is, or if it's if it's truly just the
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internet and like the Internet people that I hang out
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with where like you find it like, oh, New Balance
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is the preferred shoe of white supremacists, and I was like, ah,
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but but I like some of their shoes. And I
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I showed up to a work thing with with a
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pair of salmon shorts because it was summer, and my
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coworker started joking about, like, oh, those are the shorts
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that like you see someone of those shorts that those
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are the shorts of the person who says trust the market,
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the market will correct itself. What thatff, I just liked them.
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Pretty fern, pretty solid burn. This has happened my friend
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ed friend of the show at Wilson. He ordered a hat,
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a skate hat from a company that was similar Lids
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of Jason I guess, and they sent him the wrong hat.
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They sent him a hat that just said on it,
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happy Dad. And he was like, I'm a dad. That's perfect,
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And then he started wearing it because he was like
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the out to wear this instead, like I don't want
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to deal with the hassle and out in the streets
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people will be like fuck yeah, happy Dad, and he
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was like I am and he was like he was
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getting a lot of attention and he was really excited
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about that. He did not know at the time that
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that's happy Dad. Hard Seltzer, which if you're not familiar,
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uh some some serious magatize They are aligned, Yeah, maga
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aligned Hard Seltzer company that is I think the co founder,
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one of the founders was like a prank started as
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a prank channel. He was like this controversial prank channel
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guy and then uh boy, yeah, a pipeline and then
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they because I think he got a lot of pushback
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from that. Obviously, people who anyone who gets public pushback
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falls into the right, because that the right is like,
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we'll take anyone. Hey, as everyone is the woke mob
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getting you come to us, let's get rid of all that.
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Now you think, go, yeah, we should get It's not
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my fault, it's their fault. And so then and then
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heart Seltzer was the uh, I guess the the end
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goal of all that.
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Yeah, that's so funny.
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I wonder how uh, almost without exception the the Jackass Crew,
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sort of the platonic ideal of whimsical pranksters, haven't fallen
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into that.
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That hard right uh ecosystem.
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Yeah, as far as I know, I'm I'm almost positive.
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Really no, I don't think so, but I but I
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like them, sore in, but I like them. I invented
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a premise and I'd like it to be true.
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The other thing that I that happened to me with
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that is the to me myself was I owned a
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Fred Perry sweater. And if are you familiar with the
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brand Fred Perry at all?
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I am not?
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Okay, are you familiar with a black polo shirt that
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has gold piping along the collar of it and has
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a little gold pipe, a little gold brand in the corner.
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Have you seen that on maybe some boys singing proud
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of you, proud of my boy.
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No, I have not.
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It's probably I probably all wear the exact same thing.
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They have a uniform, it's a Fred Perry shirt. I
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bought a Fred Perry sweatshirt, I mean a sweater, not
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knowing any of this at the time. It was a
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it's brown and think that the emblem's blue. But boy,
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that did not matter. As soon as did anyone sell
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that emblem, they were.
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Like what the fuck?
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And I was like, oh, oh no, no, no, no,
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no no, And then I just basically stopped wearing it
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and then started to kind of feel bad for Fred Perry. Sure,
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I don't think they asked for that.
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I often.
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Very at a at a great distance, will will feel
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bad for some uh MAGA aligned folks because for for us,
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like I would feel self conscious wearing new balanced shoes
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or uh you feel even a tiny bit self conscious
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wearing like flag iconography now because that like they're the
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patriotism to Mega pipeline is is is too fraught at
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this moment that I don't want to wear like an
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American flag on my hat because.
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New balance, New balance is that true? New balance has
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new balances like the shoe of choice for the far right?
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Yeah didn't I Is that not what I said earlier?
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It is oh oh fuck me? Yeah I okay, yeah,
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absolutely right.
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But so like I'm looking at this in the micro
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where it's like, ah, rats.
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I can't wear newalle shoes as much as I used to,
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and I can't wear like a thing with an American
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flag on it.
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Ah rats.
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But then I think about the amount of stuff that
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people on the right and far right need to pretend
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they don't like, and that list is fucking huge. We're
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of course, like I'm dripping in examples of it. Because
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of the job that I have. I've just been forced
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to consume so much conservative media, and.
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I just they won't consume it.
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Myoing everything.
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My heart breaks every once in a while when they
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have to, just like Sean Hannity needs to get on
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TV and pretend Beyonce has no talent like all I like.
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A couple of years ago, Bruce bergersty started being very
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vocal and critical about the administration, and people have to
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just just suddenly be.
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Like, you know, you know what, I yep, never liked him.
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I never liked his his working class, straight down the barrel,
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rock and roll, joyful stuff.
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I've always this whole time liked present.
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Day kid Rock.
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That's that's my favorite guy. My bread and butter.
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Kid just just uh dream blunt rotation of kid Rock
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and my favorite actor, John Voight.
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I't maybe I think I like Kanye West, but I
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can't remember. Yeah, it is, he had like a clear
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he's got it. Trump's got a clear act to grind
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for Brisprainstein because he talked about it during the even
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the Correspondents dinner. But it is really really funny that that,
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first of all, that everybody's impulse is that when there's
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not a group of somebody who they're not allowed to
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like anymore because their tribes says they're not allowed to
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like him anymore, they go their their first instinct is
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not to be like, fuck, that sucks. I really liked
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that person. It's to go. I never liked the art
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that they made.
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It's and it happens. It happened to our tribe too,
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I mean years ago.
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It happens our tribe when uh, Louis c K.
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When those allegations were made incredibly public about his sexual
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assault and misconduct, everyone was just like, yeah, fuck this guy.
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He you know, we don't need to keep giving him
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money and keep supporting him financially.
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Sucks that he did this, this this horrible stuff.
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And people online were like, are we now ready to
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finally have the conversation about how he's an overrated comedian.
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It's like, well, that's not what we're talking Well, hold on,
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fuck the guy, but like, hold on, though, I'm not
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gonna you're putting me in a position where I'm where
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I feel like I need to pull out some specific
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bits that he's done as iconic and I'm not gonna
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do that.
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This isn't going to turn into like a world tour celebration,
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but like, we can't you can't pretend.
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The worst are the people who are reconning it like
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they notice something some moral failing in the human before
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that point where they're like, yes, I never liked him
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and I couldn't understand why until now. It's like no,
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I mean, you don't have esp You're not picking up
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a different wavelength than the rest of us, right.
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You didn't see a special or an episode of his
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groundbreaking television show, and me like, I think this guy
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was masturbating in front of master baking in front of
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women without their consent.
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That there's something about.
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This short film starring Jeremy Renner he made that makes
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me think writer director.
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Yeah, yeah, I think that the I don't know, those
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people are just trying to keep their own record unblemished.
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I think they're just like, I've gone completely undefeated this
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whole time. I've never fallen for anyone who was potentially problematic,
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which is like a weird record to try to hold.
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Isn't it more impressive to have liked something terrible and
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then even if it was like you liked what was
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terrible about it at the time, and then over time
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to be like, oh, you know what, I fucked up? Yeah,
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I see now that that was bad.
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I know people who who work very hard to cultivate
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like all of their tastes around someone that they've around,
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artists that they've they've thoroughly vetted as unproblematic. Yeah, as
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of right now, like checking every box and going through
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every potential thing that could one day be remembered negatively
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by history as social more race change. And I look
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at these people and I think it's it just seems
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so stressful. It seems so and and there are there
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are traps. You know, Mumford and Sons probably seem safer
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then their drummers, an anti vaxxer or some shit.
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What are you going to do if lind Manuel Miranda
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beats a kid? What are you gonna do?
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Man? Bluegrass is just a hair's breadth away from country,
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like we should have seen that coming. Blues Like everybody's
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like blues grass. Blue grass is safe, blue grass is
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a safe is safe territory?
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Not true? Not true.
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This is rural folk, my friend.
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They're just weird. They're weird, rural guys.
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They're standing up on stage and they're they're harmonizing and
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they're making you laugh. And then one day the government
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tells them they're not allowed to go outside anymore. And
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you're gonna see and they're gonna see some country coming out.
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And they're gonna change. And when people are surprised by
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football players, white football players being being somewhat offensive, and
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they're like, what what, but I love that kicker.
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He's a kicker.
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No you didn't, so, Daniel, this is actually helpful for
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my segue, because you've got a lot of people who
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will try to keep their record unblemished, and part of
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that is also curating what books classic books that they
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think are still worth it and which books are problematic. Yeah,
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Huck Finn is a great example because Huck Finn uses
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the N word quite a bit, and everyone there's debates.
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It seems like this cycle gets pulled up every couple
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of years where people are like, Huck Finn isn't actually
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that good. Huckleberry Finn is not like a good story,
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and you have to be like, well, fucking just hold on, everybody,
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just cool off for a second. Yeah, I wanted to
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ask you a question, a quick question.
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Well, first of all, I think I'm on record that
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I don't think I did not enjoy Huckleberry Finn. We
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might have read it in high school. I feel like
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that didn't count for me. It didn't find any purchase,
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so I read it. What I'm deciding is the first
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time I read it last year, and I've thought it
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was such a fucking slog And I'm not trying to
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be cool. I'm never trying to be cool. I'm not
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a cool person, but I'm just reading this book, like
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so much of it just feels very mean to me.
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It's that's novel. I know.
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They are definitely parts that I like, but but at
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one point he's just like he's describing paintings that he
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saw and and like, yeah, dude, just like, here's a
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painting and he's like describing every bit of it and
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what it makes it feel. And then he moves out
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to another End's like, I'm already reading a book. We
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don't need to go to the museum in the book.
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And he's like telling me poems saw in the newspaper.
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Get bent.
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This is the woke mo coming for him again, because
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pacing is different now than it used to be. You
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wade for a television show where it's gotta be on.
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I'm reading Return to the King with my son, and
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do you know how long I had to sit there
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and listen to fucking the structure of Minis tires. How
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many layers of Minis teith there are? And here what's
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in each one? What's in the gardens of each one?
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It sucks, But that's novels. That's you're given. You're allowing
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the author some free reid to breathe and to like
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really like find their wheels and then you just try
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us that when you get through all this, the story
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itself will be worth it. And I think that's fine.
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I'm fine with that.
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We can we can, we can shake hands on huck
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finn is fine.
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Okay, Now forget I said huck fang for a second,
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because I have to ask you a good question. Somebody's
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offering you. You get a notification tomorrow that somebody's like,
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you know what, I love the podcast, I love your voice.
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I would love for you to do the audiobook version
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of a Penguins calling you or something like uh. And
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they're like, we really want you to do an audiobook.
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We're gonna pay you a million dollars, million dollars, million dollars.
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But they have not said, and they will not say
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until you're on the day what book it's gonna be.
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Will you do it? I I cannot. I cannot know.
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Of course I cannot end up doing the audio book
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for Elon Musk's Memoir or Hillbilly Elegy or some other
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that that Brian Thompson's Cookbook of his Son's Blood.
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I can't. I can't do it.
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So because I can't, I can't make it clear, by
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the way, it's Brian Johnson.
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Brian Johnson, forgive me.
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I oh yeah, you're you're, you're you follow a lot
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of his uh his immortality tricks.
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Yeah, you know what it's worth.
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The most recent news about Brian Johnson is that he's
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got Oh fuck, it's possible I'm wrong. Is that the
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lead singer of A C d C Brian Johnston?
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Maybe we know who we're talking about. Pause?
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Please, yeah, it's Brian Johnson.
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Okay, good.
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Brian Johnson is also the name of the lead singer
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of A C D C. So I was momentarily panicked
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that I somehow complated, But now you're right twice.
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I'm right.
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I'm right on all fronts. He the most recent news
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on him, and I don't love how much I relish this.
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He's got some income incurable uh disease. Yeah that like
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Time got him as well, and I'm like, yeah, score
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one more for Time.
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Is that the latest news.
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I thought the latest news was that like he cloned
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himself and was gonna live forever in his clone.
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Oh shit, I mean that's like.
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Like a post diagnosis thing. He's done a very it's
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it's really it's really bad to find glee in someone
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else's terminal diagnosis. He's making it really hard to have
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empathy because a bunch of people did celebrate when he
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was like, hey me, this guy who's who's pinned tweet
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to this day is I'm going to live forever. It
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turns out I have a terminal illness and and there's
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there's no cure for it. A bunch of people made
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jokes and had fun with that, and I was like, well,
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I'm not going to join the fray of people making
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jokes and having fun with that, because because death is bad.
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I'm on record. And then he started posting about how
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it's like, is it interesting that people are finding glee
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in this nonsense? Nonsense nonsense.
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You know who who I remind myself of in this
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moment is Jesus Christ. He and I both went through
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the same thing. But all we wanted to do.
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We just wanted to live, live and teach. And people
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took joy in.
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Our monitor the erections of our eighteen year old son
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throughout the night. We wanted to compare our own erections
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to an eighteen year old and just see, We just
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wanted to see. We're asking questions here which one's harder.
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Drinking blood and asking questions about owners.
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Hey, everybody, you may feel like this if you're a
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pet owner. I've got a cat, Bethany, and one of
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the wishes that I have every time I have an
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eyelash on my cheek, I get to blow up birthday candles.
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One of the wishes that I have is that I
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could just communicate with my pet for like twenty four hours,
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so that we could come up with some sort of
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system where we could tell each other stuff. Because there
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are moments where my cat will just be walking around
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the house limping, and I'm like, what happened to you?
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And the cat just can just stare at me because
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there's no communication, or she goes and she hides because
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she's feeling sick, but I can't put a hand on
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her forehead and tell that she's sick. I'm out of
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ideas because I'll only ever dealt with children and humans before,
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so when they're not feeling well, I feel so helpless.
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So if you've ever found yourself awake at two am,
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phone in hand, googling things like is it normal for dogs?
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Or do I need to call the vet right now?
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I can't add a disclaimer in the in the audio book. No,
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they don't. They don't let you. They don't let the
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speakers be like, just sell you guys, now.
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Not me.
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I don't know what about this. I did this for
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a million dollars.
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What if they were like, we will, we'll make sure
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that it is not nonfiction and we will make sure
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that it is a classic within its genre. Now do
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will you do it for a million dollars?
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I mean there's you're still there's the huck Finn of
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it all where it could end up getting me to
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say words that I don't use and don't like to use.
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No, I do it a million dollars?
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Okay, good, congratulations. Well your book is gonna be The
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Joy Luck Club. There's a lot of dialogue in it.
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It's super important that you do it. You try to
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emulate the voices as much as possible.
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What are the voices?
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Amy Tan? The Joy Luck Club is a story about Yeah,
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you heard the name and you knew immediately. You know what.
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You don't have to do the job. We're gonna have
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you do the color purple. It's a pistolary and it's
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written in local color writing that is not like color
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like you think it is. That's like an actual term.
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Right.
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So this is the thing.
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I've been listening to a lot of audiobooks. Now I'm
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gonna pull back the curtain and show you my whole
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the whole show. I've been reading a lot of it.
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And I'm glad show escaped your mouth because for a
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while that was I'm gonna pull back the curtain and
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show you my whole and there was a lot of
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air before we got to.
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So I listened to audiobooks on my way to work
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because now my work is over an hour away. And
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what I found is that everyone's just being pretty cool
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with the fact that you only have one person reading
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the audio book. So when they get to characters that
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are written with an accent, and sometimes even when they're not,
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that whoever's reading the audiobook is taking some big, big swing,
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some big cadence swings. Now, let me drill down to
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what that means. I listen to a book called The
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Star is My Destination. It's Grace or Tiger Tiger. You
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might know the book as because for whatever reason, this
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book has two titles. They don't get a bunch of
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different people to do the voices, and at least not
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in the audio book circles in which I frequent, But
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it's one guy and they're usually pretty good. I mean,
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they're sound like voice actors. They've got a lot of
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gravitas with they're just reading the narration, and then when
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they do the voices, they pick something for everybody. This
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guy's picked for the main character. He's got like the
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South African voice.
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That's very cool.
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But yeah, yeah, he whippings wick.
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Are you crazy?
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That's exactly what the character sounds like. He he has
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to do a Chinese detective every once in a while,
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and he's taken a really big swing on this Chinese detective.
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That's it really throws you out of the book.
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But the most startling example that I've come up with
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so far, and everybody again, nobody's talking about this, uh is.
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I listened to Stephen King and there's the whole Dark
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Tower series which people have raved about, people who I
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respect have raved about it. And so I was like, well,
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I better read this. And you get into this book
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called The Drawing of the Three, and in that there's
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a character named Debtah Walker, And I want you to
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just hear some of what deada Walker sounds like.
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The chambers swung open, loaded, fucking be loaded. You're gonna
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do this young cock of the walk first, and that
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really bad man be waking up, and you're gonna give
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him one big grin smile, honey child, so I can
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see where you ease. And then you're gonna clean his
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clock something righteous. She swung the chamber back.
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Here's here's here's what I think, Soren, Yeah, go ahead.
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I think go for it. I think the reader went.
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I think that's what you have to do. I think
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I think that's.
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Less enjoyable as a piece of media to listen to.
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If if the reader is timidly, if I'm just saying
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all those words in this unaffected voice and I'm not
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changing diss to this, I'm just using my normal nasal
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Daniel O'Brien voice to say dis motherfucker loaded, that's way
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worse than someone doing a voice. I think, Soren, my
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white friend, what do you think?
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I think it's a fucking trap. I think that there
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is no good answer. I think that if this guy
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did it this way, the way that he chose, which
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is the very biggest swing, I'm like, whoa, I have
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to stop whatever. I'm about to pull over because I'm like,
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are we are?
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Is he doing this? What is going on here?
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And there's a lot of uh him saying honky in it,
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there's a lot of like him really really like diving
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into this accent and whatever's written on the page, which
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you're trying to be faithful to the original author.
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I get it. Yeah, but no one ever.
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Anticipated this moment when it would have to be read
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out loud, and which is the one you're proposing, would
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be just as I think it's just as bad, which is,
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you don't go for it. You try to cover your
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tracks as best you can, you mitigate the damage, and
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you just read it in your your ordinary voice, the
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way when I or you when you are speak Spanish,
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when we're like, I'm gonna put the accents in.
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That's I know that.
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That's where they go like, I'm gonna do that, I'm
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gonna roll my rs and stuff. But I don't think
487
00:26:16.279 --> 00:26:18.720
that's I don't think I'm totally allowed to do that.
488
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:23.400
And so but I'm not gonna speak it like a gringo,
489
00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:30.079
you know, like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be like,
490
00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:35.519
yeah me lapize as grande. I'm a rio, Like I'm
491
00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:38.599
not gonna do that. I'm gonna I'm gonna say I'm
492
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a rio. So, uh, I don't know what the I
493
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:45.039
don't think there is a good answer for it. I
494
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:48.160
don't know how you do this other than if they
495
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:52.039
hire more than one person to do the voices in
496
00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:55.079
a book, which I don't think is a terrible idea.
497
00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:57.200
I think that would be pretty fucking rad.
498
00:26:57.480 --> 00:26:58.759
It's an expensive idea.
499
00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:01.400
Yes, yeah, I guess you're right.
500
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:04.359
And then you're getting into like directors too, because you've
501
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:06.200
got to like do a whole thing about it. And
502
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:08.599
I don't think that we can guarantee that kind of
503
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:10.359
treatment across all books.
504
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:11.440
There are so many books.
505
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:14.839
Well, let's see, you are going to be your publishing house,
506
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:19.160
so you're creating these you've got you're clearly doubling up
507
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:21.920
on guys anyway. You've got guys that are reading multiple books.
508
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:24.279
Every Stephen King book I've read so far has been
509
00:27:24.319 --> 00:27:26.880
this one guy. Every Raymond Chandler book is the same guy.
510
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:32.079
So you have somebody you can bring in who is
511
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:35.240
your goon and like he's just doing every goon part
512
00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:38.559
there is. Yeah, not the modern meeting of goon.
513
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:43.839
No, Stephen King hasn't gotten to that scary story yet.
514
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:49.279
A the goon Cave coming next from Stephen King? What
515
00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:51.039
will happen in the goon cave?
516
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:56.559
Yeah, you got your tough guy, you've got your nerd,
517
00:27:56.720 --> 00:28:00.079
You've got you've got these the stable of people, and
518
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:02.519
you're like, these are these are who plays each one
519
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:04.319
of these roles, and I know that they do it well.
520
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:07.359
I'm not going to deviate from it. And in addition
521
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:10.119
to that, you're also going to make sure you have
522
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:12.319
one of those for every ethnicity.
523
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.880
What does your Dark Tower Reader do? Because there is
524
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:20.759
a prominent child in that series, and there are also
525
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:23.359
I think women.
526
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:27.319
What does he does? He have a little kid voice?
527
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:30.119
Does he have a white lady voice?
528
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:33.079
You bet great, He's got it all. He's got a
529
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:36.119
little kid voice. And it's also pretty grading, but it's
530
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:37.000
not offensive.
531
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:42.119
It's a real. I cannot stand adults acting like children.
532
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:45.400
It's a real. It made the Alien Earth show very
533
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:48.039
difficult for me to watch. I don't know if you've
534
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:50.279
seen that show, but it's that's it. It's a lot
535
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:52.200
of it. It's a lot of it is adults.
536
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:54.839
Acting like children. And it's like fucking theater. People love
537
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:58.759
doing that kind of theater. Kids love pretending like their children.
538
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:00.240
They love it so fucking much.
539
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:01.240
It sucks. I hate it.
540
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:05.319
They love to stretch. Yeah, it's like that's like the
541
00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:07.960
challenge of it. They're like, oh yeah, oh, this is
542
00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:11.319
this role is a stretch. Let's try it. Let's try it.
543
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:14.000
And they get excited about that kind of thing. They
544
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:17.480
love playing old man. Yeah, did you ever see the
545
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:19.680
show Penn fifteen. I thought they did that really well
546
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:22.559
where they like make kids play fifty grizzled fifty year
547
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:23.559
old people from New York.
548
00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:25.079
That's good stuff.
549
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.920
There was this characterization and an audiobook thing, and I
550
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:37.160
still think I'm team go for It instead of Team Welden.
551
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:40.400
You're winning because that team give people jobs. There was
552
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:45.119
this is such a time capsule, but I believe it
553
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:51.039
was one of the bonus features in the DVD of
554
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:54.759
one of John Mullaney's comedy specials where there is you
555
00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:57.119
could probably find it on YouTube, but it's like a
556
00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:04.799
conversation between Mullaney and Dan Mintz and Anthony Jesselnick, who
557
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:09.079
especially at this time like this this has got to
558
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:12.240
be New in Town or the one after that John
559
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:15.039
mllaney special called New in Town. This is at a
560
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:20.680
time where like Mullaney was famously this is this is
561
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:24.880
pre backslide Mullaney, pre divorce Mulleney, pre marriage Mulleny where it.
562
00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:27.200
Was like, this is what a what a nice man
563
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:27.759
in a suit?
564
00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:30.960
You know he's not clean, but it seems like clean
565
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:34.200
comedy this is such a good old boy. We like
566
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:36.880
John mulaney, who wears a suit, he's a showman, his
567
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:40.759
hair is combed. And Anthony Jesselnick is like a dark comedian.
568
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:42.720
He's the rose guy and he's evil and he's the
569
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:44.799
devil and you know, dead baby jokes and this and
570
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:48.440
that and UH politically incorrect as far as you can get.
571
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:52.839
And the two of them talking about John Special in
572
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:58.640
this UH DVD bonus feature hit on something so interesting.
573
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:03.720
Because Mullaney will tell he will talk about law and order,
574
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:05.079
and he will do.
575
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:08.839
An impression of iced tea that's as accurate as he
576
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:12.640
can get, and he will also talk about encounters with
577
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:15.000
people that he has on the streets of New York
578
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:19.920
and it has him doing a black voice, like there's
579
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:22.799
no way around it that this is like, and jessel
580
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:25.720
Neck confronts him about it, and it's just like, for
581
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:30.400
all the dark stuff that that for my reputation of darkness,
582
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:31.920
I would never do that.
583
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:34.440
I would never in a million years.
584
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:37.400
Get on stage and do black voice because it seems
585
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:39.799
so inappropriate and Malay. It's just like that's what he
586
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:46.359
sounded like. So on some level, when the guys are
587
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:47.680
reading the audio books.
588
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:49.680
Yeah, I think that self.
589
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:51.960
Justification is like, this is I'm reading the page, and
590
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:55.039
it is my job to interpret interpret what the author
591
00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:57.880
is trying to say on the page. This is what
592
00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:01.880
this character sounds like. So I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna
593
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:04.519
do it. You hired me, and you bought the audiobook.
594
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.759
You trusted me to interpret this book for you. Here's
595
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:08.440
how I'm doing it.
596
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:14.680
Okay, you're right on some level, But I have to
597
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:17.799
think that twenty years from now, when everybody else starts
598
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:21.000
listening to only audiobooks and we've all forgotten how to read,
599
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:23.359
this will be as big a problem as Mickey Rooney
600
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:27.440
and Breakfast at Tiffany's. He went for it, he got
601
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:29.599
hired at a job. At the time, it didn't seem
602
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:32.279
crazy in the moment. Then they were like, they're like,
603
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:35.240
what's the best you can do? And he's like, well,
604
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.200
I really should steer into the skid here, I should
605
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:39.079
just really go for it, and did.
606
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:41.559
And boy does it not age.
607
00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:41.799
Well.
608
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:47.279
Yeah, So I think that here's the other part of
609
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:50.160
this that I offered you a million dollars, because even
610
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:51.640
for less than that, I don't think you could do
611
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:53.680
it as a already public figure. I think a lot
612
00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:55.960
of these guys who are doing these voices. Maybe again,
613
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:58.920
I don't travel in the same circles of voiceover actors,
614
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:04.000
But these guys aren't well known enough that somebody's reading
615
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.200
gonna listen to the audiobook simply because they like the
616
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:09.640
guy reading it. They're not gonna be like, oh, I
617
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:12.880
love his work, I'll check out that book. I think
618
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:16.359
that if you did it, that would happen, and that's
619
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:19.440
more dangerous. That's more dangerous.
620
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.839
Because then I'm courting the controversy a little bit. Yeah,
621
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:27.920
but I wanted the money. I want the money that
622
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:34.720
people stop sh I want the money, I mean.
623
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:36.440
And also, just listening to these I'm sure that there
624
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:38.880
is a ton of work that goes in before this
625
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:40.759
has ever read. It's not like the guy shows up
626
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:42.400
on the day and he's like, well, the words right there.
627
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:44.319
I obviously don't have to memorize them because nobody's looking
628
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:47.079
at me. What if I just read it on the day,
629
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:49.759
that can't possibly be it, because he's got to make
630
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:51.920
big decision. I always sing, he I guess there's women
631
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:52.839
who also do these.
632
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:54.839
Shout out Dorothea Lewis.
633
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:57.200
He's a friend of mine who reads audiobooks shout out
634
00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:58.920
Dorothea Lewis aka a.
635
00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:02.319
Real digging against me that it's clear that even though
636
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:04.880
I'm burning through audiobooks, I haven't done a single one
637
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.240
that's clearly written from the perspective.
638
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:07.279
Of a woman.
639
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:12.960
Sorry, I'm sorry, I will I'm gonna read The Joylut
640
00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:14.039
Club next, I promise.
641
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:18.800
Well, God completely think there's a lot of work that
642
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:19.280
goes into it.
643
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:21.079
There's a lot of work they have to figure out
644
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:22.280
what the voices are going to be, right.
645
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:28.000
I think they also probably have some kind of discretion
646
00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:32.480
over what they choose. A right that's got to be
647
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:36.199
a conversation where the publishers like, we have this available,
648
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:38.239
we think you'd be good for it. Yeah, heads up,
649
00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:41.360
here's some of the stuff that goes into this. And
650
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:43.519
an author has the right to a reader has the
651
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:46.000
right to say, like, it's not I'm not not for me.
652
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:47.679
I don't feel good doing that.
653
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:50.360
I think that's probably true. I think that you but
654
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:52.239
you're also you know there's gonna be words in there
655
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:54.239
that you don't know, words that the author made up,
656
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:56.079
And so then you've got to be in contact with
657
00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:58.320
the author to make sure that you're doing a justice right,
658
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:00.840
So you've got this so much front end work that
659
00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:02.039
probably is happening.
660
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:05.239
The guy who read my audiobook didn't say shit to me.
661
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:08.000
Well, you're right then, the King's English. It's very easy
662
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:12.960
to understand, thank you. There's like didit chok? There's in
663
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:15.280
within the Dark Tower, which clearly is something you have
664
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:19.360
heard read scene scene Okay, So there are these like
665
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:21.960
lobstrosities that live in the ocean and they make a
666
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:24.159
very specific sound that is like a did it choc
667
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:27.760
did chock kind of sound, and even written, seeing that
668
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:30.320
written out phonetically, you'd be like, well, fucking get King
669
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:31.960
on the horn because I don't know what this is
670
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:35.400
supposed to sound like. And I think that they must
671
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:37.280
do a ton. There's even stuff that I'm not thinking
672
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:39.679
of that they have to do in preparation to make
673
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:43.840
sure that, uh, they're doing the as much justice to
674
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:44.880
the book as possible.
675
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:46.599
They're the guy who does.
676
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:49.119
The Raymond Chandler once is amazing for anyone who doesn't
677
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:51.920
know Raymon Chandler writes all the Philip Marlow hardboiled detective stories.
678
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:56.519
They are the birth of hard boiled detective stories, like
679
00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:58.400
they are he He is the master of them, and
680
00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:03.360
he was the originator arguably, but he the guy the
681
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:09.360
Philip Marlow characters. The Philip Marlow character is very specific,
682
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:13.280
and he's when you read him, he's so fun on
683
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:17.239
the page. It's much tougher to do that as an actor,
684
00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:20.280
like to really capture what he is. And the guy
685
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:22.440
who's doing it is fucking nailing it. So it's clear
686
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:24.000
that he worked on this character as much as a
687
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:25.360
guy would have if he was going to play him
688
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:29.239
in a movie, and so so much work goes in.
689
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:32.559
I have to assume this conversation has happened multiple times
690
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:36.800
for these books where they're like, Okay, I'm gonna be
691
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:41.280
doing this character who is first generation from Thailand as well.
692
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:45.519
He's only on these five pages, but I'm deeply worried.
693
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:49.239
Would it be okay? Can I give you?
694
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:55.119
Can I give you one one take where I'm where
695
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:57.719
I'm just doing my voice? Is that just just so
696
00:36:57.920 --> 00:36:59.760
I can say that I did that and gave you
697
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:02.719
that option, and then when the book comes out, then
698
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:05.239
it's on you for picking whatever one that you picked.
699
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:05.880
Can we just.
700
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:09.440
I think we I mean we run into it on
701
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:15.559
our show too, there's a really excellent, renowned Morgan Freeman
702
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:21.639
impersonator in Los Angeles and he does Morgan Freeman for
703
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.360
a lot of shows, a lot of animated shows.
704
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:27.519
White guy, you got him for us for Cracked when
705
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.760
you were when we still weren't for Cracked obviously. Yeah,
706
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:33.320
we had something that was like I don't know that
707
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:37.840
it was going to go out to the internet or
708
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:39.800
if it was some internal thing that we were doing,
709
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:43.320
like south By Southwest. Oh was south By Southwest and
710
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:47.480
we needed we wanted like a Morgan Freeman s narrator,
711
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:49.119
And you're like, I got a guy and he comes
712
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.400
into the office and he's a very white manager.
713
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:58.800
Like, oh, oh okay, it's just the south By audience.
714
00:37:58.840 --> 00:37:59.880
I guess no one.
715
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:01.920
Yeah, we're not gonna credit you.
716
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:02.480
Is that okay?
717
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.519
But yeah, we have and and obviously the show has
718
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:11.400
has been on long enough now that we've been through
719
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:16.880
moments of awakening I would say, moments where we were
720
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:19.400
become more aware of the world and we're like, oh,
721
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:21.679
maybe that wasn't such a good choice. We had a
722
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:25.880
character on our show named short Run No that Short
723
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:29.760
Runs from also a pretty bad character. Yeah, but eight
724
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:31.559
Bit I think is the name of our character who
725
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:36.519
is like a Cambodian general, and that's a that accent's
726
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:38.360
a pretty big swing. And if you go back and
727
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:41.000
you listen to it, you're like, who that's tough man?
728
00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:43.320
We are This is not just somebody trying to be
729
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:46.639
faithful to Cambodians. This is somebody who is making fun.
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Yeah, very good chance that this person didn't like consoled
731
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a bunch of resources and like, talk to some people
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00:38:56.559 --> 00:38:59.119
from Cambodia to get an accent there. There's I'm gonna say,
733
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:01.719
a ninety it's no disrespect to this voice actor. A
734
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ninety chance that this person's like, I think I have
735
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:05.960
a rough idea what they sound like.
736
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:07.760
I think I got I got it.
737
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:09.119
Let's just try it one in the room.
738
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:09.440
Come on.
739
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:12.960
I have to think I haven't watched Team America in
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00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.039
a long time. And it certainly helps that you're doing
741
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:17.559
the voice of a dictator. But they are really playing
742
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:21.679
with a Korean accent in that they're playing with like
743
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:26.199
what's the fun of doing Korean? Which I don't know
744
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:28.360
if that's the same territory, because now you're making fun.
745
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:30.440
Now you're being hard on them.
746
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:34.000
Yeah, now you're getting jokes without any jokes being told,
747
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:37.440
and so then you're not getting last without any jokes
748
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:37.920
being told.
749
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.440
And then so where is the laugh? What is the
750
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:42.599
what is the joke? Then? What is the subtext of
751
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:44.800
the joke? What do we all think is funny? You're
752
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:54.239
getting away? Someone talks Uh? Oh, so yeah, I I didn't.
753
00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:56.400
I can't really talk to anybod about this because nobody
754
00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:58.400
else I know it only consumes their books.
755
00:39:58.440 --> 00:39:58.679
This way.
756
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:00.960
I'm a maniac because it's that's like I'm at the
757
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:03.519
gym or I'm driving and I'm like, let's listen to
758
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:06.639
a story. Let's like listen to something fun. And have
759
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:10.960
gotten obsessed with audiobooks, and man, this is across the board.
760
00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:13.840
This is a problem for me.
761
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:19.360
Yeah, I mean that's I I can't contribute much. I
762
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:23.000
think I've listened to one audio book in my life.
763
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:25.320
On a road trip with my wife, we would listen
764
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:30.320
to Kamala Harris's book one hundred and seven Days.
765
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:31.880
Does she do her own voice?
766
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:35.159
She does her own cheat? Oh, she doesn't do any
767
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:37.880
She doesn't have the fun with it that.
768
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:40.920
I'd hope she'd have, you know, I think she's probably
769
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:42.800
gonna run again. So she's not gonna do like, she
770
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:46.280
doesn't bust out a Trump or a Biden voice.
771
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:49.079
And I'm just like, come on, you got one your age.
772
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:53.800
I fucking know you do. Lindsey Graham. I think you've
773
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:56.599
got a great Lindsey Graham in you. You got that
774
00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:58.039
high pitch voice already.
775
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.639
Yeah, Lindsay Graham said, wouldn't support me? He said no way.
776
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:03.559
I'm like, yeah, but did he say like that? Come on,
777
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:05.119
how did you say it? Yeah?
778
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:13.400
A little something like this and then do it? I yeah,
779
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I don't think I can. I an't do a lot
780
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:20.280
of nonfiction. In nonfiction, I think it's probably a different animal.
781
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:23.400
I think that they don't aren't expected to because you're
782
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:25.440
listening to the story as though it's being told to
783
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:28.679
you from the actual person. So like when they're talking
784
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:30.559
in other people's voices, you still expect it to be
785
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:34.440
in the voice of Kamala Harris. Sure, even if it's
786
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:43.239
quotation dialogue. But not man, these fiction stories, it's dangerous territory.
787
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:51.599
You should listen to more. By the way, they're great,
788
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:53.960
and in fact, you have to make sure that you
789
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:56.079
get the right ones, because there are some. I'll give
790
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:59.000
you an example Elie confidential unlistenable.
791
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:00.639
Okay, I.
792
00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:06.119
This this is this is one of those takes that
793
00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:08.320
gets people pointing a bunch of knives at me. And
794
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:11.039
I was hoping to never have to get into it,
795
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:14.280
uh and just let it be one of those takes
796
00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:16.920
that I have in my heart and and bring to
797
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:23.199
my grave. But I'm I'm pretty anti audio book.
798
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:24.239
Uh.
799
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:26.679
And that's at first people are going to hear that
800
00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:29.039
and get very pissed off, and they're gonna think I'm
801
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:34.239
uh elitist and ablest that I'm trying to keep books
802
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:37.880
out of the hands of people who can't read. And
803
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:40.480
then by the time I've finished my explanation, I think
804
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:44.519
people will be pissed off for different reasons because I'm
805
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:48.280
I'm a I'm a semantic asshole, where.
806
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:49.880
I just think that.
807
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:56.800
We should if you consume a book by listening to it,
808
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:01.559
we should call it something else. That's not odd today
809
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:05.440
we should make that distinction, because for a while, I
810
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:08.119
think everyone made that distinction. It was like I read
811
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:09.840
this or I listened to it. You know, people would
812
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:11.360
correct self correct and say they listened.
813
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:13.559
And then at some point in the last ten years,
814
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:17.039
loud people on the internet are writing for the Atlantic
815
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:20.440
or wherever the fuck idiots with too much time and
816
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:21.559
not enough problems go.
817
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:25.559
They were saying that, hey, if you listen to a book,
818
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:27.480
then you read the book, and you can say that
819
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.159
you have to let anyone know that you listen to
820
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:32.960
it instead of reading it. And it became, like so
821
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:39.119
many things, a cause and a pride thing. I did
822
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:41.840
this and I like it, so that means it's good
823
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:47.079
and it's right. I disagree, I think. And there's where
824
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:50.400
it gets into semantics. You listened to The Great Gatsby.
825
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:51.480
I read The Great Gatsby.
826
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:56.519
On the score of like, have we both consumed the
827
00:43:56.559 --> 00:44:00.599
same information? Yes we have. Do we know the story?
828
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:06.400
We both can can can convincingly pass a high school
829
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:10.119
English test about The Great Gatsby even though you listen
830
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:13.679
to it and I read it. We can both, I think,
831
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:17.639
swear to a light detector test. I know what happens
832
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:20.079
in The Great Gatsby and how it happens, and the
833
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:23.159
style of writing that was employed in it.
834
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:27.559
Yes, we both got the Great Gatsby. We ate it,
835
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:33.280
we consumed it. We didn't both read it because reading,
836
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:38.760
in my opinion, that is worthless. Reading is a thing
837
00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:39.159
that you.
838
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:44.400
Make time for that takes up all of your attention.
839
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:49.119
Because everyone when I when I had my son and
840
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:51.920
was bummed that I would have less time to read,
841
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:54.800
people were saying, oh, you can do. You can listen
842
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:57.280
to audio books in the car, you can listen to
843
00:44:57.320 --> 00:44:58.840
them on your runs, you can listen to them on
844
00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:00.920
the walks. You just like, have it going in your
845
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:05.920
house while you're doing X, you know, yard work, chores,
846
00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:08.639
prepping the dinner, putting the kid to sleep, whatever you
847
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:11.639
want to do. And it's like that is not I
848
00:45:11.719 --> 00:45:16.000
don't want to read and do another thing. I the
849
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:20.280
act of reading is enjoyable to me, and I like that.
850
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:21.239
I'm giving it my.
851
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:26.679
Full attention because I reject the efficiency economy where we're
852
00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:29.559
trying to make things happen faster and multiple things happen
853
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:29.920
at once.
854
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:32.039
I don't want to do that. I don't want to
855
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:35.679
multitask meeting reading for the same reason I don't want
856
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:40.000
to like multitask love making or eating, you know, all
857
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:40.400
these things.
858
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:41.599
They're just like, no, this is the thing that I
859
00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:44.599
like to do, So I like the point is making
860
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:47.039
time for the act of it, and like sitting and
861
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:50.360
looking at this and unlocking my brain and not like
862
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:52.679
reading while also.
863
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:57.599
Vacuuming or raking leaves or doing any of these other things.
864
00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:02.280
It's again, it's just, it's just it's it's a semantic distinction,
865
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:08.000
and uh makes me ablest at worst and like just
866
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:09.039
annoying at best.
867
00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:10.239
But it's how I feel.
868
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:12.719
And I looked at our runtime, and we still had
869
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:16.559
more minutes to go, and I could tell Soren was
870
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:19.400
running out of steam. So I thought my bag old
871
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:23.480
rant about reading was going to go somewhere, and here
872
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:23.760
it is.
873
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:27.719
Well, all right, I've let you speak, Daniel, thank you,
874
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:30.800
and I'm going to say now that I think you're
875
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:35.679
completely wrong, that this is a knives to your throat moment. Oh,
876
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:37.360
I think you're up. I don't think you're going to
877
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:40.079
find a writer who disagrees with you, okay. I think
878
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:44.400
everyone who writes understands that there's a fundamental difference, and
879
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:47.280
which is why I generally qualify when I if I
880
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:50.719
say with somebody's like, oh, what's a science fiction book
881
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:51.840
do you really like? I'm like, well, I read this
882
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:55.559
one called the Stars My Destination. I listened to it.
883
00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:57.840
I listened to this book All the Stars My Destination,
884
00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:01.199
because it's it is an important distinction. When you read
885
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:05.119
you find passages that you particularly like, that you think
886
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.360
are interesting and beautiful or whatever, and then you go
887
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:09.840
back and you reread it over and over again. You
888
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:11.559
sit there with the book for a while, you stay
889
00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:14.400
on that same page. The pages are not turning at
890
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:17.159
the same uniform pace as they would with an audiobook,
891
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:19.599
where you're just blowing through everything and you're getting the
892
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:22.840
information and you're understanding this, you're comprehending the story. You're
893
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:28.320
not comprehending the I don't think from reading it. From
894
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:30.239
hearing it, you're not going to get a lot of
895
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:33.159
the literary devices that are being used.
896
00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:34.079
You're not getting.
897
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:38.480
The interesting turns of phrase as much. You might capture
898
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:39.960
some of them out of the air when you hear them.
899
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:40.199
But you're not.
900
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:42.239
You can't don't have the luxury of them, like rereading
901
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:44.400
it over and over again and have it set in
902
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:47.599
your memory. There's stuff you just can't do. I also
903
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:51.440
think that there's something really valuable to reading a book,
904
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:54.880
giving it your attention and it not holding your attention,
905
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:57.760
and you like drifting off as you're reading it, being like,
906
00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:00.519
oh shit, I didn't pay attention to just happened in
907
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:04.039
less paragraph and then rereading it again and dedicating yourself
908
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:06.800
once more to a thing like that kind.
909
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.880
Of or letting yourself stay kind of drift it off.
910
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:15.840
I mean, there's no there's no better imagination activation machine
911
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:19.519
than a book. It is still like bar none, unparalleled,
912
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:22.920
undefeated as far as like getting my brain to work
913
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:25.920
when I'm sitting and staring and looking at it versus
914
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:28.679
when I'm listening to a book with my wife. We
915
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:31.760
will A thing that you can't do when you're reading
916
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:33.960
a book is we will turn down the volume and
917
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:36.639
talk about what we're going to have for lunch, and
918
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:39.239
then turn up the volume and miss little bits and
919
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:41.880
pieces of the book because we're not really paying full
920
00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:42.519
attention to it.
921
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:46.760
I mean, even screenwriters, you know that watching a movie
922
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:48.800
is a very different thing than reading the screenplay of it,
923
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:51.079
despite the fact that there's a lot of differences in
924
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:54.079
dialogue stuff because changes get made. But even if it
925
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:56.679
was exactly the same, you want to see the formatting.
926
00:48:56.719 --> 00:48:58.039
You want to see how it's written. You want to
927
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:01.280
read the action lines speak because those are super crucial
928
00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:04.800
to like the flow of the story and seeing it
929
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:07.079
is one thing reading it is very very different. You
930
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:10.000
pick up on foreshadowing in different ways. You pick up
931
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:13.679
on through lines that you didn't see before because it's
932
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:16.039
on a page now. It's like it's the same way
933
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:18.360
when you're writing yourself. You have a lot of thoughts
934
00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:20.760
in your head and you're kind of keeping track of
935
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:23.599
all of those and you're juggling them. You're juggling them,
936
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:25.559
and it's very hard to focus on any one of
937
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:28.199
the objects that you're juggling until you can put it
938
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:30.440
down in front of you and look at it. And
939
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:33.679
so like it's a writing just allows you to lay everything,
940
00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:35.599
all those thoughts and like you like, I have the
941
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:37.519
whole story in my head. No, it allows you to
942
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:39.280
lay it out in a row so that you can
943
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:41.800
see it before you and really notice all of the
944
00:49:41.840 --> 00:49:42.519
details of it.
945
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.800
Yeah. I just want to close by saying I don't
946
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:49.119
want anyone to feel bad anyone who they should.
947
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:52.079
If people can say that they fucking listen to that
948
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:54.800
they read Moby Dick and they listen to Moby Dick,
949
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:58.320
ah fuck, that they could come with me, not you
950
00:49:58.559 --> 00:49:59.599
all in front of you.
951
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:02.199
You can still go to parties and say you read
952
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:05.679
all the books that you want to say you have read.
953
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:08.559
It's I'm not. I never want to make anyone feel
954
00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:08.880
bad for.
955
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:12.800
Anything, But imagine listening to Ulysses. What are you going
956
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:14.280
to get out of that experience?
957
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:18.280
You might get something, That's what I'm saying. It's just
958
00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:21.320
a different it's just a different thing. It's a different thing.
959
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:24.360
But you yeah, I guess you're right. I guess you're right.
960
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:26.400
I mean, I go to I think about going to
961
00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:29.039
museums like an art form that I don't know anything about.
962
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:32.400
I'm trying to like make it as distance itself, distance
963
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:34.280
it from me. I go to art museums, and I
964
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:38.639
get bored because I'm like Christ painting, another Christ painting,
965
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:39.599
another Christ painting?
966
00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:40.360
What are we doing?
967
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:43.159
And like, I don't understand the work that goes into that.
968
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:45.800
I don't understand the details. I don't understand why making
969
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:48.920
water look real is tough. I don't get these things.
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And and so somebody who does and has like this
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whole tool this whole tool belt of ways to dissect
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a painting and understand it, They're going to understand a
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lot more than I will. And so I think, maybe
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from a distance, if you are not a writer, audiobooks
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are for you, man, They're totally fine, and the read
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there's a very specific reason that I'm reading like pulp
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stuff when I when I read in my car, when
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I'm listening to audiobooks, I'm listening to Stephen King and
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I'm listening to Raymond Chandler and stuff, because those are
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The story itself is very enjoyable, and it doesn't I don't.
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I know that I'm missing some cool Cormick McCarthy type
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shit when I'm doing it, but it doesn't matter because
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I'm there for just the story itself.
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Yeah, there's a lot of Cormick McCarthy stuff in Stephen
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King and Raymond Chandler books, you know what. I'm glad
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those are the ones that you're listening to to find
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some cormck McCarthy stuff.
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I'm gonna reread.
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I'm gonna in Blood Meridian, I'm gonna reread The Stars
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Wheeled across the Sky toward Uncharted Reckonings over and over again,
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because I'm like, that's a fucking awesome thing to say.
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If I hear that in a story, I'm just gonna
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blow right past me. All right, I'm ranto, but yeah,
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come for me.
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Yeah, not Daniel.
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He's good, he's a good heart. Leave him alone, all right, Well,
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thank you for listening to this podcast The Spin quick question, Really, Daniel, honestly,
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you should read the podcast.
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You should read it.
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This is how we transcript this is how we intended.
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It before every episode.
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Patreon listeners know that we write these podcasts. We script
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them first, one hundred percent scripted, and that's how we
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want them consumed, and then we record it for as
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like a like a some icing on it. But this
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is not the right format.
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This has been quick question with sarre On and Daniel.
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You knew that if you liked our theme song that's
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want to watch a video version, you could do that
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more of this podcast more, you could become a Patreon
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if you like this podcast and you think that it
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sounds good and that the clips are good and you
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think that it's wonderfully put together. That is all Mackenzie Mozelle.
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If you like her, you can follow her podcast, which
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is Don't Make It Worse. Thank you for listening and
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we'll see you on the flip side.
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Bye.
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I'm going to quick quick question. I want to hear
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your thoughts, know what's on your mind. I've got a
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quick quick question for a quote and I'm just by
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the week gets talk tonight. So what's your favorite do
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you get? You see that's friends in comedy. It does
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an answer that I cannot find. I think you'll have
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a great time. I think you'll have a great time.
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M hmmm.