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Abliteration AI CEO Devon Thomas discusses selling APIs for unredacted/abliterated cybersecurity models, red teaming AI agents, and why model refusals hinder cyber defenders. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(00:50) Response to "Cyber Nuke" Backlash
(03:14) Why Hasn't Hacking Escalated?
(05:17) Empowering Defenders via Unrestricted Models
(08:26) Open Source vs Closed Models
(12:10) Should Frontier Weights Be Released?
(18:18) Long-Term Business Model & Custom Guardrails
(21:03) Policy and Regulation for Cyber Risk
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