Hardee’s Biscuits Got Him Inside the Mills: Chad Mitchell’s Untold Story | Ep 75

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Canapapolis, and tell them the rough
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talk cousins at the Ktown Connection
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sent you.
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>> This is episode number 75 now.
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>> 474. [laughter]
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>> I know we done we
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>> Yeah, we done moved on.
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>> Dr. Dave, welcome back to the show. Um,
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I should say welcome back to Rough Talk,
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Ryan. Uh, Ryan, you've been at the beach
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every time I looked. [clears throat]
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>> Well, should should be there now.
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>> It is beach season. Thursday night.
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They've got a band down there again.
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>> That's right. In the square. Yeah. Who
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is tonight? Do you know?
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>> Um I don't remember who it is because I
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knew I wasn't going to be there.
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>> Do uh not next week here. Don't we have
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too much Sylvia next week?
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>> And then uh this Saturday night.
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>> Yeah, there's a lot going on downtown.
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>> Sweet. Sweet.
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>> This weekend.
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>> I called Ryan the other day and he
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picked up the phone and put it up to his
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radio. 94.9
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the surf. [laughter] Sounds of the
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beach.
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>> Has he graduated to sending you videos
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of it yet, though?
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>> Oh, yeah. Time to turn.
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>> It's time to turn before [laughter] you
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burn.
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>> I get it all. I get it all. Uh Ryan,
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you've been doing all right.
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>> Yeah. How about you?
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>> Good. Good. David, Steel, you back
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there? Can you hear us?
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>> I'm here.
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>> Hey, I saw we got the memo. We wore the
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same shirt.
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>> Look at that. I mean, we even got I
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mean, you can't see my shorts. We even
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we even matched up with some red shorts
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this afternoon.
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>> Man, that's careful now. I wore my Bobby
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Dale Nhard shirt.
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>> Bobby Dale.
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>> Got the mail.
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>> I hear you. Well, Ron, um, exit exit.
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>> Back on it. I'm back on it.
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>> I 74.
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>> I know. Hey,
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>> you take a month away and old old habits
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come back.
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>> I know. Um,
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>> David, you got the sports center back
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there open. At least we know that's
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open.
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>> Yeah. So, whatever exit that's open,
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>> we actually got a I got a few things to
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talk about tonight. Well,
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>> let's do it.
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>> Um, got to go to the Cannonballers game
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this past Sunday against the Salem
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Ridge. Uh my two nieces were uh in town
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and we we took them to the ball game. Uh
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team was down 3 nothing through most of
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the game and then ended up coming back
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um had one guy hit a three-run homer in
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the eighth and they ended up coming back
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winning I want to say it was eight to
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eight to three. So uh had a nice game
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there. Um summer shootout down at the
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racetrack has finished up. This past
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Tuesday was the last race. Um, and a
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young gentleman by the name of Tyler
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Young uh driving baby beluga, a uh there
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big blue bus there in the bus slubber
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knocker uh took the trophy home for
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that. Um, [clears throat] and then for
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those of you that are have been missing
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some uh pro football, uh, NFL kind of
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kicks back tonight. We we've got our
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Carolina Panthers playing the Arizona
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Cardinals in Canton tonight in the Hall
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of Fame game uh, at 8 PM. Cool. So, lot
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lots of sports going on.
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>> High school football kicks off this
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week, too. It does.
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>> They got a scrimmage starting up
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tomorrow. I think AL Brown goes up to
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Carson. Uh, takes on those
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>> other guys in China Grove. So, uh, you
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know, should be it should be a good year
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for all the teams around here. Uh, but
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cool deal. Well, Ryan, you ready to get
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this one going?
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>> I guess so.
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>> All right,
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>> let's do it.
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>> [music]
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>> Some worthless farmland by the county
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line
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turned into hope. [music] A dream
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divine.
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A mill rose up. A town [music] was born.
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The whistle blew that became our norm.
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[music]
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They came from miles with callous hands.
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Towns were made on these southern lands.
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A mill town [music] strong a legacy.
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Roots run [music] deep as the old tree.
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They said we were banished. Our fate at
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stake, [music] but we stood as one for
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pity sake. Held [music] our ground when
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the whole world shook. Look at us
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[music] now.
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Just take a look. From the hardworking
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mill guys [music] in the we room to the
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man in black and I wonder too. This town
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[music] is strong down to its core.
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our future dreams for the mill before
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can [music] ever live.
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You rise ever more [music]
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town strong.
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>> We stand as one from the middle to the
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land.
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>> Look [music] how far we come.
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>> K Town in every direction. That's the
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heart of the K Town Connection.
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>> All right, guys. Welcome back here to
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another crazy episode of the Ktown
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Connection. As always, you got your
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Rough Talk cousins here, Chris Hughes,
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Rough Talk Ryan, Dave Vault, Chuck, Dr.
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Dave Irvin, and of course, back there in
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the sports cave, David Steel. Ryan, as
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always, I'm going to give you the floor.
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We got a really cool guest. I'm anxious
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to dive in and and hear some really cool
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story. So, let's get her done.
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>> All right. So tonight we have someone
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who's I would call a local legend
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because this guy has done literally
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everything around town through the
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years. Um had a lot of lot of positive
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things that he's documented in the
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community's history. A lot of lot of sad
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events he's also documented.
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>> Um and just a great guy, great family.
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>> Known my whole life I guess pretty much.
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Yes. And uh but Chad Mitchell, he was
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just featured with the Canapapolis
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History Associates this week as their
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program. And Chad and I talked about
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doing this podcast long time ago. He was
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on our early list.
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>> Yeah. And uh so we finally connected.
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He's he's been a star now two times in
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the same week. So [laughter] he he's
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going to start signing autographs for
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long. So Chad, welcome to the show.
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>> Thank you fellas. I appreciate it. Glad
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to be here.
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>> Good to have you have you. So I guess
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just tell us a little bit about you and
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growing up here and uh of course you
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know your parents and just kind of your
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upbringing in Canapapolis and then we'll
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kind of move into what brings you here
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today.
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>> Okay. Uh again my name is Chad Mitchell.
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Uh I'm an 87 graduate of South Rowan.
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>> There you go. [laughter]
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I got it.
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>> Um, but no, I I went on to Appalachin
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State. Uh, studied graphic design,
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commercial art, uh, degreed in '92.
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Um,
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gosh, I could I could stay right there,
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but um, I'm a photographer for App State
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football. Um, jumped in at the right
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time in ' 05, uh, when we started
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winning, uh, Natties and Chatty. Um, so
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we won national championships,
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uh, and 05, 06,07. Uh, there's a number
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of
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division championships and stuff or um,
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league championships. But um no, like
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Ryan said, I I feel like having sitting
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the cat bird seat here, um thinking back
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of a lot lot of stuff that I've been
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able to do. U a lot of this stuff that
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really almost feels like a reward.
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>> Um I chose to do it. Um um one of the
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biggest Oh gosh, where can I where can I
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start? I had um three years of NASCAR
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photography for the drive for diversity
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program first three years. So kind of
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was cool working with uh Wendell Scott
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Jr.
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>> That was very rewarding. Um I worked for
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the minor league team when they came in
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from Spartanberg in uh 95 until the time
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my twins were born in ' 07. I shot the
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the team photo in center field and
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walked off the field. So, I feel like I
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graduated myself then. Um, but the team
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has since had me back in 18 for
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transition images, unbeknownst to that
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little thing we had in 2020 with the
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masks. Um, but then Matt Millward, he
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gets a big kudos uh uh for calling me
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back out to capture everything that
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doesn't happen on the field. And that's
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that's been a lot of fun. But um gosh,
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what else?
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>> Well, well, we could talk we can unpack
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a lot of that stuff, but before we get
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into a lot of that stuff. I I I like to
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ask a lot of the people the same thing.
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You know, we all have our own unique
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Ktown experiences of how we grew up.
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What neighborhood did you grow up and
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and what was your early childhood here
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in Canafas like and how did it really
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kind of shape you and send you on this
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trajectory of cool things we're going to
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talk about?
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>> Okay. Um well, I grew up out west Sea
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Street uh towards Enigville down Rainbow
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Drive. Um grew up there. uh mom, dad's
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house that they're still or mom's still
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there. U lost dad about 2 years ago. Um
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I got into let's see I remember coming
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into town um and grabbing going to the
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old um dairy bar. Was that Rowan Dairy
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Bar right where right beside where the
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>> center? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh.
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The banana splits when I could put those
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away.
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>> Milkshakes too. Um,
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>> my mom talks about the pound cakes.
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>> Oh my gosh.
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>> Yeah,
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>> I just found out today that that's where
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Aunt Kathy met Jerry.
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>> I saw that in the newspaper. Wow. I did
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not know that. [laughter]
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>> Oh, there we go.
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>> David's aunt passed
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>> bringing people together for
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>> yesterday.
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>> Five minutes. No. Um [laughter]
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but no uh coming into town I remember uh
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my well my grandparents my my dad's
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parents uh Charlie and Mary Ella
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Mitchell live over lived over on Laura
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Avenue and we we all went to church
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together at North Canapapolis United
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Methodist the Rock Church. Uh so I grew
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up there. Uh
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just I remember the church dinners. Holy
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cow. Oh my god. I miss those. um the
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church dinners, coming to Canon Village
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um with my grandmother and buying uh
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going to plant 4 when they'd have the
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big the sales.
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>> Mhm.
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>> The discount sales. Oh, yeah. What
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Mitchell I think is Greek for
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>> Give me that discount. [laughter]
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I think it's Greek for I think I think
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I'm somewhere close. But um
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>> but no, just Midway Ballfield. I
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remember watching King and his Court. I
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just saw something. I think it was Yaw's
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Paige maybe. But um I remember sitting
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in the stands watching that striking a
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guy out from second base. What?
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>> And I'm a baseball guy so
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>> yeah.
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>> Um but no just everything the the water
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tank I'm segueing I'm sure. But um the
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water tank always seemed to
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>> when I'm in the back of the car and I'm
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see this much above through the window.
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That water tank always seemed to follow
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me. you know, wherever I went, I always
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thought that. And I always thought it
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was neat cuz it was checkerboard and,
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you know, uh, driving down Maine and
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seeing, you know, the meal and packed
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in. where I think u brought you to the
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highlight
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>> of everything is is you documenting and
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I know we'll get further into it but uh
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that's where yeah that's where I uh
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began uh taking notice of your
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photography work and all the things that
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you did is is with the demise of the
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meals
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>> right yeah and and that played you know
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a huge role in you know there wasn't
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many people allowed in to uh to take
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pictures. I think you were probably the
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the main one to document the demolition
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and what was left behind and and some of
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the pictures you've posted,
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you know, it they're they're eerie in a
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lot of ways.
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>> And but that represents a transition of
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American
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economic being, I guess, word of it.
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Yeah,
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>> that not just here, but that p that same
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picture could be shown in many many
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places throughout our nation
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>> because of what's happened.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Our economy.
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>> But how I mean, I guess since we're kind
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of leaping into that,
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>> um, you know, you go from from taking
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pictures of cool baseball games where
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there's a lot of happiness and
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excitement and action on the field,
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>> football
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>> and football and yeah, app state stuff
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and and everything you've done. And then
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you were able to go in and take pictures
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of the place that made this place
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something
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literally of its collapse. How what was
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that like? Well, I know um back when I
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worked in Concord at a little printing
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shop, um I was able to drive up and just
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have like flex hours and um I could
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drive up and
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maybe for the hour and it wound up being
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two hours and I would make the time up.
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But when I decided to do that, um I had
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come up that day um to pay my bill at
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CTC
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and
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>> cord telephone.
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>> Yes. So what I had to do, I had to go by
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plant 4. Plant 4 was the first place to
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aka take the wrecking ball. And they had
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I don't know what they had hit that if
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you remember that little building that
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sat right up against the sidewalk. Oh,
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stop office.
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>> Yes. The metal building there. And
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>> it had like a little awning.
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>> But that when I saw I kind of I'm I'm a
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creature habit, you know. I'm probably
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part ADHD, too, cuz I I notice patterns
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and stuff and it it helps me in what I
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do. But, um, I drove by there and I saw
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something different and it just was like
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a spark. I'm like, it's it's actually
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here.
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They're going to start doing this and
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you know you you know it takes no time
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to bring something down
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than it does to build it like a homemade
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pound cake. Right. Right.
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>> So I made up my mind to go back and and
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talk to the owner uh where I work and
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said listen I I feel like I need to do
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this. And I knew my family's history in
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there and all the friends that uh I had
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worked with my dad uh in the mill, not
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for the mill, but in the mill when he
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got let go in the 80s, well, he he could
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have laid his hammer down and come back
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three weeks later and picked it up on
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the same job he went on.
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Crazy. Yeah.
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>> But I think a lot of people would use
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that word crazy. Um, but that allowed me
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to see, you know, what was in the mill
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and where, you know, roughly. Um, so
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when the time was, you know, when the
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time was there, um, I met, um, the folks
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that were bringing it down and just
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happened to pull in at the shop gate at
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the backside on the loop road and I just
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happened to have
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three Hardies biscuits with me.
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And um
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brother that spent like money. It spent
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just like money. Yeah. And I'll never
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forget his name was Walter.
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>> Um I went I met him and I just told him
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I'm just there to take some pictures and
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um document the history and that was all
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I had to say. And then I handed the
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biscuits and there was somebody else
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coming in too. But um I drove around the
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corner and there was Griffin Senior,
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Griffin Jr. and a a a guy like their
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number three. I think his name was
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Barry.
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>> But I I introduced myself and I'm good
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at barter. Um it's how I stay alive, I
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guess. But um I just told him I said
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listen I knew that I wasn't going to let
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him have the digitals but I would make
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the prints
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and it was worth spending the money on
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the prints to have the digitals for
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years to come cuz I I knew sooner or
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later there'd be anniversary years.
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There would be folks that
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wanted to know. And I mean the way I
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looked at it, nobody's going to do it
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unless I do it.
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>> True. I mean, you brought so many images
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into homes that no one had ever seen,
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right?
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>> And then it was just reality. When you
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went into plant for you, you could see
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here to the highway.
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It was just all wooden floor and columns
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and and and like you said, that was the
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reality when I went through it. Saw that
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it was all but torn down. Yeah,
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>> that was the that was the longest weave
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room in the world
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>> lengthwise. There was not one bigger
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>> and that was the case when it was torn
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down as far as I know.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So, I mean, you're you know, like the
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water tank, you know, when even in our
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lifetime, it was the still the second
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tallest tower in the world. And and it
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was still the tallest on this side of
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the Mississippi River when it fell. Mhm.
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>> And
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built to be the tallest in the world
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during World War II. And you know that I
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remember driving back from Kataba every
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day coming down 29 and I would look for
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that water tank because it would peak
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above the tree line. When you go past
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old ' 80s Ford Road, you'd see it and
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you know then it would kind of fade out
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of sight. And I never will forget while
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I was
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driving, you know, back and forth to
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school
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the day that it wasn't there.
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>> It had been there all that time and then
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all of a sudden I looked and it wasn't
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there. And you know, of course, we were
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downtown when it fell and and took
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pictures and videoed it and all that
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stuff, but
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>> to see it the first time be gone from
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our skyline was was impactful to me. The
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change hit you.
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>> The change hit me. Yes. No doubt.
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>> For sure.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Um, so I guess how many pictures did you
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end up taking? I guess if plant one and
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plant four combined is it I'm sure it's
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thousands, but
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>> over 25,000.
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>> Holy cow.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Had to be crazy.
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>> It It got to where I I thought in the
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beginning I thought I would go up once a
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week
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>> every day.
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>> It was an addiction.
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It was an addiction. As long as my Honda
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Accord could make it through red clay
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dirt, you know, after a rain or
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something. Um,
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yeah, I packed a lot of red dirt up
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under the the skirt of that car.
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>> Did you ever get any of the garage?
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>> Uh, let's see. On the backside?
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>> Yeah, on the big green garage.
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>> Let's see. I remember shooting outside.
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I remember
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>> cuz that's where my dad worked 25 years.
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>> Yeah. Let's see.
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That was up there on the heel at the
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corner at the fire department. Yeah,
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gate 10.
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>> Gate 10. Yep.
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>> I'm trying to place myself inside that
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building
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>> had a big uh
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>> I want to say they kept that locked
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because of
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>> It was right across from the Elm Street
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Church.
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>> They used it to the very end. They used
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it for their
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>> equip [clears throat]
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they even let me uh when they knew they
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were going to get pictures, they were
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like, "Hey, Chad, call me by name." Um,
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you want to use the Gator today? I went
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I tried it one time, [laughter]
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but I've got cameras. I can't wear
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cameras and drive, you know. I've never
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been able to do that, but it swirls dust
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>> and there was a lot of dust.
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>> And so I I went to walking,
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>> right? Walked the whole thing.
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>> Yeah, I walked the whole thing around it
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and
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>> space. Wow. I'd love to see some of the
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die department where I worked at
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dungeon kind of down there in the the
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bottom parts that I worked at. Pretty
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cool.
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>> Real mill guys were in there.
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>> Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, I know. Exactly. When
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you you guys are bringing things up when
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I worked there with dad.
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Yeah. All right. The die range. But then
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it was a a ramp to go down.
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>> All the die barrels were there.
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>> Yeah. That's where I worked. I ran the
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dock with those barrels. That basement
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was nothing but barrels.
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>> Okay. I remember
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how
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big cockroaches [laughter]
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>> and and well the size if I'm if I'm not
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mistaken that's the name of it. It was a
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powder. it. They would dump the size in
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with the bleach and all that stuff and
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it really whitened the cotton
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>> and that's kind of what you smelled when
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you would walk up ma main street before
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you got to the
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>> everyone thought it was a cotton smell
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but it was
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>> no that was the die smell.
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>> But I remember
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I remember the dye range
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and I remember jobs that we had to do.
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We had to bust out some vermiculite and
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repour the vermiculite which is like a
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lightweight concrete.
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You're bringing stuff back now.
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[laughter]
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>> So So your your dad worked in that area
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or I know he was carpenter.
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>> He was a he was a carpenter but
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>> he was just working on random stuff,
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>> right? But when they they let him go and
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he went back then he became a
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superintendent. He had six employees now
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under him which he grew up if you want
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to call it that. um became more of a
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professional. He he had to, you know,
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work with folks under him, but um no,
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but we did a lot of knocking it down,
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building it back.
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>> Gotcha.
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>> walls, patching holes, busting up
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concrete floors. My knees are still kind
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of shot from that, but um
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>> Well, your dad was a great guy. He was
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just phenomenal.
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>> Phenomenal guy.
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>> Yeah.
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But yeah, I I mean that that just has to
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be an incredible thing to be given that
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gift to go in there and and take all
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those pictures and and you know, it's
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one thing to take a picture of a
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building, but you've taken pictures of
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like that sign you brought for example.
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>> Mhm.
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>> The the details of things that people
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don't think about. For example, one of
00:23:24.080 --> 00:23:25.430
the things I think about when I think
00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:27.909
about the garage is going in the
00:23:27.919 --> 00:23:32.470
bathroom there as a kid, this big round
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uh sink. Oh, yeah.
00:23:33.679 --> 00:23:36.070
>> You would step on the thing and all this
00:23:36.080 --> 00:23:39.590
water would come like a sprinkler.
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That's the coolest thing. I wish I had
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one in here. Oh, yeah. I'd have that
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thing running, you know? I mean, just
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and and to think about all the guys
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working on trucks and and stuff
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>> scrubbing out going in there scrubbing
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out all at the same time. Kind of like
00:23:53.840 --> 00:23:55.510
those troughs at the racetrack.
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Everybody's just peeing in. [laughter]
00:23:58.000 --> 00:24:00.950
>> Yeah. What What's the bathtub doing?
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Wilsboro comes to mind.
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>> Oh man.
00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:05.750
>> Oh my gosh, man. That was great.
00:24:05.760 --> 00:24:09.190
>> There I got to stand in a tunnel which
00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:12.230
was right across from uh Ktown Furniture
00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:13.990
>> in the parking lot there.
00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:17.029
>> Um I got to stand on top of distribution
00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:19.510
and see Charlotte. I got a picture of
00:24:19.520 --> 00:24:22.789
that. Um, no picture from the tunnel. It
00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:25.990
was it was too way too dark. Um,
00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:28.149
>> but you know that was a high area over
00:24:28.159 --> 00:24:32.230
there with that water tank stoate.
00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:33.990
You remember hill? They had a hill.
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Yeah. Maple Hill.
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>> Oh yeah. Well,
00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:38.549
>> that's the way you look at it.
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>> Yeah.
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>> I remember for the the houses that were
00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:42.390
in there for a while.
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>> My mom grew up on those houses.
00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:44.950
>> Independence.
00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:45.750
>> Maple Hill.
00:24:45.760 --> 00:24:46.070
>> Yep.
00:24:46.080 --> 00:24:47.029
>> He lived on Maple Street.
00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:48.470
>> I got pictures of those houses, too, I
00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:48.630
think.
00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:50.310
>> Yeah. Independence. Independence is like
00:24:50.320 --> 00:24:51.350
right under the tower.
00:24:51.360 --> 00:24:53.190
>> Yeah, it was that was a shorter street
00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:54.470
and then Maple
00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:56.230
>> Maple Street went all the way up to the
00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:57.110
tower
00:24:57.120 --> 00:24:59.510
>> and she lived under the tower. Their
00:24:59.520 --> 00:25:01.909
house was right up there and when it
00:25:01.919 --> 00:25:04.950
would I guess blow off excess water, you
00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:07.029
know, they would go out there and and
00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:09.269
summer and play in it. Water just it was
00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:10.230
like a big shower.
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>> Wow. Yeah.
00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:14.549
>> And um so what was the most interesting
00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:16.390
thing you saw in the meal or the most
00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:19.110
unexpected thing that you saw that you
00:25:19.120 --> 00:25:19.909
photographed?
00:25:19.919 --> 00:25:24.230
>> Okay. I prepared mentally for this. Um
00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:27.669
there was in the between the third and
00:25:27.679 --> 00:25:29.510
fourth floor
00:25:29.520 --> 00:25:32.149
uh when I was going up
00:25:32.159 --> 00:25:35.510
to to check out up there um I was
00:25:35.520 --> 00:25:38.549
interested in the floors.
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that it was kil dried maple floor tongue
00:25:41.360 --> 00:25:44.390
and groove and um I was just curious to
00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:45.669
see what the fourth floor looked like.
00:25:45.679 --> 00:25:49.430
It was probably pristine and it was um
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:51.830
but I remember that third door closing
00:25:51.840 --> 00:25:55.110
in the stairwell and before it closed
00:25:55.120 --> 00:25:56.630
there was a wheat pole knocked in the
00:25:56.640 --> 00:25:58.789
side so I was getting ambient light so I
00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:02.390
had I could see but I had the mag light
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:04.710
ready and I I got up the first flight of
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:07.350
steps got on the landing. Thank God I
00:26:07.360 --> 00:26:08.630
was on the landing cuz when that door
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:11.350
closed and the glass was blocked, the
00:26:11.360 --> 00:26:13.510
security glass.
00:26:13.520 --> 00:26:17.990
It was the darkest place I'd ever been.
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:20.310
I got dizzy. Almost fell down. I had to
00:26:20.320 --> 00:26:22.310
lean against the wall. It was that dark.
00:26:22.320 --> 00:26:24.789
I didn't expect it. Look, I mean, look,
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:26.789
I'm getting chills talking about it. It
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It scared me really.
00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:30.230
>> So, was that old distribution center or
00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:33.029
was that the towel distribution?
00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:36.950
>> Um, let's see. That was that was the one
00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:40.390
closest to the loop road. It was right
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:40.630
there
00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:42.470
>> where the dot department is in the
00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:44.230
>> Well, we're I was fourth floor in the
00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:46.470
stairwell
00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:47.909
>> because
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>> I think
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>> Yeah, I think that's where all the
00:26:51.679 --> 00:26:54.549
safety awards were on the wall. Third
00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:57.510
floor, fourth floor. Anyway, I I didn't
00:26:57.520 --> 00:26:58.789
reward.
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>> So, how what did you do in those dark
00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:02.950
areas?
00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:04.870
have lighting with you or your flash?
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:06.630
>> I had a mag light like a police mag
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:08.470
light. The long ones. Yeah,
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:10.789
>> that was enough to get decent pictures.
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:15.029
>> Yeah, I mean it wasn't pitch dark. Um
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:18.470
the only time Well, pitch dark. Uh, but
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:21.350
if I was out there at night, there's
00:27:21.360 --> 00:27:22.950
pictures
00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.470
where I set up um in the um middle of
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:28.789
the railroad track that came in off
00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:29.750
Maine
00:27:29.760 --> 00:27:31.830
>> and I knew I wanted to get the shot of
00:27:31.840 --> 00:27:36.149
the um smoke stacks and it was a full
00:27:36.159 --> 00:27:38.149
moon, but the full moon was right over
00:27:38.159 --> 00:27:41.830
the the the train depot.
00:27:41.840 --> 00:27:45.669
So, I'm like, what can I do different?
00:27:45.679 --> 00:27:47.830
So, I turned the mag light on, set the
00:27:47.840 --> 00:27:51.110
camera for 30 seconds, ran that light
00:27:51.120 --> 00:27:53.669
above the camera down the tracks, and
00:27:53.679 --> 00:27:55.190
just kind of let it pulled for a little
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:56.789
bit.
00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:58.870
I got to thinking before I did it, I'm
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:00.789
like, well, you know, the railroad
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:03.190
brought a lot of materials to build the
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:04.710
mill.
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:06.470
And you could kind of say that the
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:08.950
railroad was the lifeline.
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:11.669
So, how can I how can I show a lifeline
00:28:11.679 --> 00:28:15.909
in the dark with light? So when you see
00:28:15.919 --> 00:28:17.750
that image,
00:28:17.760 --> 00:28:19.750
um, it looks like it there's electricity
00:28:19.760 --> 00:28:21.669
in the in the to me that's what it looks
00:28:21.679 --> 00:28:22.230
like.
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:24.149
>> That's what I was trying to convey. But
00:28:24.159 --> 00:28:28.149
and I just titled it lifeline. And a
00:28:28.159 --> 00:28:30.630
story I had with uh KHA the other night
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:32.070
was
00:28:32.080 --> 00:28:36.310
>> I've never been cooed at by
00:28:36.320 --> 00:28:39.190
a dove [laughter] in the dark. It had to
00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:41.590
be or a pigeon. Maybe it was a pigeon.
00:28:41.600 --> 00:28:45.110
But it scared the fire out of me.
00:28:45.120 --> 00:28:45.909
>> Yeah.
00:28:45.919 --> 00:28:47.269
>> I I don't
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:48.149
>> kind of spooky.
00:28:48.159 --> 00:28:49.990
>> Yeah, I guarantee there's some spooky
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:51.430
places cuz there was spooky places when
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:52.870
I worked there when the mill was
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:54.310
running. So, I can only imagine
00:28:54.320 --> 00:28:55.110
>> lit up.
00:28:55.120 --> 00:28:56.630
>> So, it's interesting you bring up the
00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:58.230
railroad because he and I have talked
00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:01.190
about this. He So, we did a I don't know
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:03.990
if you've seen our theme song that we
00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:06.470
put together and the video that we made
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:08.310
for that, but it's all about
00:29:08.320 --> 00:29:11.110
Canapapolis, of course. And the the
00:29:11.120 --> 00:29:13.590
video starts out showing the railroad
00:29:13.600 --> 00:29:17.110
tracks in downtown where where you're
00:29:17.120 --> 00:29:19.750
talking about beside where the old depot
00:29:19.760 --> 00:29:20.789
used to be and
00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:23.029
>> where the sign is. where the can yeah
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:25.830
the original canapo sign is and and
00:29:25.840 --> 00:29:28.389
where the railroad went in off of the
00:29:28.399 --> 00:29:30.870
tracks across Main Street into the mill.
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:32.870
And if you look at those that drawn
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:37.110
image that that Chris got, you see five
00:29:37.120 --> 00:29:40.470
or six tracks still there. That's
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:43.590
literally the only thing left
00:29:43.600 --> 00:29:46.310
>> that even gives any semblance of what
00:29:46.320 --> 00:29:47.750
used to be there
00:29:47.760 --> 00:29:49.510
>> because there's no other place on that
00:29:49.520 --> 00:29:51.269
railroad line that there's five or six
00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:52.149
tracks.
00:29:52.159 --> 00:29:53.990
>> And you're exactly right. You know, it
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:57.750
wasn't what in the last 20 years that
00:29:57.760 --> 00:30:01.590
above 18th Street up there, uh, it went
00:30:01.600 --> 00:30:03.909
to two lanes. Yeah. Just one track. One
00:30:03.919 --> 00:30:04.710
track.
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:05.990
>> And but
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:08.149
>> but you had all that storage capacity
00:30:08.159 --> 00:30:08.549
right there.
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:10.389
>> That's right. for all the side tracks.
00:30:10.399 --> 00:30:13.830
But you had two crossings there at plant
00:30:13.840 --> 00:30:15.350
one and one at plant four.
00:30:15.360 --> 00:30:16.070
>> Plant four.
00:30:16.080 --> 00:30:17.750
>> A lot of people don't remember that
00:30:17.760 --> 00:30:20.070
second one at plant one. The one that
00:30:20.080 --> 00:30:21.909
was on the very north side, right?
00:30:21.919 --> 00:30:23.669
>> I've I've said to, you know, to people,
00:30:23.679 --> 00:30:25.029
do you remember that one up there? I
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:26.389
don't remember that one cuz the the one
00:30:26.399 --> 00:30:27.750
they remember is the one that you're
00:30:27.760 --> 00:30:30.070
talking about.
00:30:30.080 --> 00:30:30.710
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.029
>> Cuz that other one was torn up when I
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:33.510
was a kid.
00:30:33.520 --> 00:30:34.389
>> There's still a little bit of a hump
00:30:34.399 --> 00:30:36.389
there. You can see
00:30:36.399 --> 00:30:38.149
out there in that grass. You can still
00:30:38.159 --> 00:30:38.549
see it.
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:40.070
>> It's still kind of there. I was sitting
00:30:40.080 --> 00:30:42.230
I was sitting on Dave on Chuck's front
00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:43.836
porch when we got that video and he
00:30:43.846 --> 00:30:45.350
[laughter] he he was he was directing
00:30:45.360 --> 00:30:46.470
me. He's like, "No, you got to go right
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:46.789
there."
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:47.830
>> Yeah, that's a perfect shot.
00:30:47.840 --> 00:30:49.590
>> It was perfect. It is perfect.
00:30:49.600 --> 00:30:50.950
>> I remember the phone booth that used to
00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:52.950
be up there at the at the one going in
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:54.789
at the smoke stacks.
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:55.190
>> Yes.
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:57.750
>> That I just I wish I knew who got that
00:30:57.760 --> 00:30:58.470
phone booth.
00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:01.669
>> Do it. But what was so cool was if you
00:31:01.679 --> 00:31:03.590
happened to be going up Main Street or
00:31:03.600 --> 00:31:07.269
down Main Street back then is when the
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:10.470
the locomotive had gone into the mill
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:13.350
with four or five cars and you'd come by
00:31:13.360 --> 00:31:15.510
and you look in there and you see this
00:31:15.520 --> 00:31:17.669
>> big railroad
00:31:17.679 --> 00:31:18.950
locomotive sitting there
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:21.669
>> and inside it actually branched off into
00:31:21.679 --> 00:31:24.389
a couple different trees all places cuz
00:31:24.399 --> 00:31:26.870
you know where I managed unloading the
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:28.870
the trucks at the D department. We also
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:30.950
had
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:32.870
>> of costic or whatever it was that we
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:34.789
would have right
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.430
>> sit there kind of in between
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:40.230
distribution center and and the parts of
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:43.269
>> and Chad's right the railroad part was
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:46.710
was a big part of the mill system from
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:49.190
start to finish and you know a lot of
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:50.789
that's still overlooked.
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:53.029
>> That's I mean that's really really why
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:55.590
that site was chosen. Yeah. I mean, it
00:31:55.600 --> 00:31:58.230
it cut our farm in two when the railroad
00:31:58.240 --> 00:31:59.509
came through, but
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:01.590
>> it that's what gave it access to the
00:32:01.600 --> 00:32:03.750
world, that railroad.
00:32:03.760 --> 00:32:05.669
>> That's just so cool to think about all
00:32:05.679 --> 00:32:06.710
that. Awesome.
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:08.470
>> You know, have somebody and I don't
00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:11.590
know, maybe there's a way to if he could
00:32:11.600 --> 00:32:13.750
u give us links to some of these
00:32:13.760 --> 00:32:15.750
pictures you could embed in the video.
00:32:15.760 --> 00:32:17.269
>> Well, I'm sure I've seen a lot of your
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:19.590
photos like on social media. I have a
00:32:19.600 --> 00:32:20.789
feeling there's probably thousands that
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:22.070
nobody's ever seen.
00:32:22.080 --> 00:32:25.830
>> 25,000. The other the other ones are um
00:32:25.840 --> 00:32:30.070
on CD that was the technology then um
00:32:30.080 --> 00:32:32.630
but the more picturesque
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:35.509
if you will if I can use that word um
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:38.549
are what's on social media. So I want to
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:42.950
in, you know, evoke
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:44.549
emotion,
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:46.630
especially for folks that were never in
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:48.070
there, never worked there.
00:32:48.080 --> 00:32:50.230
>> And one of my top three is the is the
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:52.230
water tower falling, you know, with all
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:53.350
the shots of it.
00:32:53.360 --> 00:32:53.669
>> Oh,
00:32:53.679 --> 00:32:54.870
>> and that's just
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:56.149
>> Oh, you know who I was standing right
00:32:56.159 --> 00:32:57.830
beside when that happened? Oh.
00:32:57.840 --> 00:33:01.029
>> On day two, actually both days I found
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:02.549
him and stood right there at Norris
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:04.149
during Oh, wow. Yeah.
00:33:04.159 --> 00:33:06.070
>> Was that on the the first, second, or
00:33:06.080 --> 00:33:07.590
third attempt?
00:33:07.600 --> 00:33:10.149
Well, I thought there were two attempts.
00:33:10.159 --> 00:33:11.909
>> Three. Well, there was two attempts and
00:33:11.919 --> 00:33:12.950
then the final.
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:13.430
>> Yeah.
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:15.509
>> The first attempt they tried to pull it
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:17.190
over with a cable.
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:17.750
>> That didn't work.
00:33:17.760 --> 00:33:18.870
>> Oh, that's okay. That's right.
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:21.830
>> Second time they blew out the legs and
00:33:21.840 --> 00:33:23.110
it didn't fall.
00:33:23.120 --> 00:33:25.190
>> And then the third attempt they blew out
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:26.070
the final.
00:33:26.080 --> 00:33:26.310
>> Yeah.
00:33:26.320 --> 00:33:27.830
>> I mean, it had to go then, but
00:33:27.840 --> 00:33:29.350
>> the first time they used, you know,
00:33:29.360 --> 00:33:30.710
pyro,
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:32.630
>> I'm standing right there and I can hear
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:35.350
other people and they, "Is it moving?" I
00:33:35.360 --> 00:33:37.830
think it's moving. I'm like I'm just
00:33:37.840 --> 00:33:40.070
looking through the camera. I if it
00:33:40.080 --> 00:33:42.310
moves I'll see it but I can't naked eye
00:33:42.320 --> 00:33:45.430
it because if I do then I'm not doing
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:48.710
Yeah. Do over. No.
00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:52.230
>> Same thing with the stacks. I I had I
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:53.830
told the group I had
00:33:53.840 --> 00:33:57.350
>> both cameras on um to shoot wide shoot
00:33:57.360 --> 00:34:00.870
tight and then I had little sideline
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:04.870
thing here. CTC had their uh phone book
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:08.790
cover contest. I won that. Um that
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:12.149
camera was the the the win. I had it
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:14.149
velcroed to the top of that fence
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:16.310
running.
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:19.750
All I could hear after the fog sat and
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.629
they they're like, "Oh, Charlie Cannon.
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:24.629
He don't want it to go." I'm like I'm
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:26.389
like,
00:34:26.399 --> 00:34:28.069
"I've got to be ready." You know, and
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.069
when it does and then the fog, you know,
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:31.990
come up. Then I think it sat down again,
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:34.950
but they eventually set the uh the
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.510
sirens to to countdown for the
00:34:37.520 --> 00:34:41.430
explosives. And I got that.
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:43.430
>> Yeah. I I couldn't shoot it too fast
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:46.470
because, you know, if you do, it's got
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:48.790
to right to the card. And if you choke
00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:51.669
that camera, then it just shuts off.
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:53.589
>> So, lot of skill. It mess up.
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:57.750
>> So, I had to, you know, I can't hear the
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.310
like the initial what do you call them?
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:02.069
Um,
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:04.390
I don't know. There's little explosives
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:06.950
that ignite the trunk line, right? Um,
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:10.390
that you know sets the big ones. But
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:10.870
>> yeah,
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:12.390
>> I remember standing over there on Ridge
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:14.710
Avenue for the water tank and
00:35:14.720 --> 00:35:16.390
>> what people were saying, especially when
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:18.390
it didn't fall the first and second
00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:20.230
time, [laughter] saying, "Mr. Canon
00:35:20.240 --> 00:35:21.670
don't want it to go."
00:35:21.680 --> 00:35:23.349
>> And uh, and it was people cheering. I
00:35:23.359 --> 00:35:24.390
mean, because it didn't fall.
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:25.829
>> I know it. [laughter] I mean, people was
00:35:25.839 --> 00:35:28.069
going nuts and uh
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:30.790
>> I I mean, that was that was big for that
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:31.990
thing to fall down.
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:33.349
>> But, you know, it's a testament to
00:35:33.359 --> 00:35:35.589
everything else that was built up there.
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:38.950
It it was built
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:40.150
>> not to come down.
00:35:40.160 --> 00:35:41.430
>> Not to come down. I mean, you could have
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:42.950
driven a truck through it and it still
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:43.990
would have stayed.
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:44.790
>> You're exactly right.
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:46.710
>> And just the fact that the number the
00:35:46.720 --> 00:35:48.710
scores of people that were there,
00:35:48.720 --> 00:35:50.310
>> that told me that they cared about it.
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.470
>> Oh, yeah. You know, who's going to leave
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:55.910
work, you know, and blow your lunch just
00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:58.150
to go?
00:35:58.160 --> 00:35:58.950
So,
00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:01.030
>> well, and then were you up there when
00:36:01.040 --> 00:36:05.430
they um imploded the bleachery and towel
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:08.069
distribution? Did you get pictures of
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:09.670
video and pictures of that?
00:36:09.680 --> 00:36:11.829
>> Yep. That's how I knew not to choke the
00:36:11.839 --> 00:36:13.349
camera with
00:36:13.359 --> 00:36:15.190
>> Yeah. for the stacks,
00:36:15.200 --> 00:36:19.510
>> the the mayors and the
00:36:19.520 --> 00:36:22.150
>> um all the the folks that needed to be
00:36:22.160 --> 00:36:25.349
there were there and I was just lucky
00:36:25.359 --> 00:36:29.589
part of the media and um I remember I
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:32.950
don't know being third floor maybe.
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:36.230
Yeah. because I remember after it was
00:36:36.240 --> 00:36:40.230
all over um
00:36:40.240 --> 00:36:42.390
I think it was the um the elevator shaft
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:45.030
or it had a condenser on top. It was
00:36:45.040 --> 00:36:47.109
still standing
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:49.510
and then as it was, you know, pretty
00:36:49.520 --> 00:36:52.950
smoky or foggy dusty. I remember taking
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:54.950
a picture of the water tank where you
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:58.230
couldn't see the the legs and it looks
00:36:58.240 --> 00:36:59.670
like it's just it looks like it's
00:36:59.680 --> 00:37:00.950
floating.
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:03.190
>> It's really cool. It's on It's in the
00:37:03.200 --> 00:37:04.790
album. Um,
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:07.990
>> but I remember hearing
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:10.630
>> a bulldozer make its way over and then
00:37:10.640 --> 00:37:13.750
the jaws just go
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:15.990
>> and it fell right over.
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:18.790
>> Yeah. So, how do [clears throat] people
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:20.630
look at these pictures that we're that
00:37:20.640 --> 00:37:23.390
we've talked now for 30 minutes about?
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:24.069
[laughter]
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:25.910
>> How do they what's the best way for them
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:27.750
to see it? and and if they want copies
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:30.550
of them, do they u are they available
00:37:30.560 --> 00:37:32.470
for purchase and things like that?
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:34.790
>> Yeah. Um the ones that are on my
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:36.790
Facebook page, you know, of course
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:39.190
>> Chad Mitchell photography or just Chad
00:37:39.200 --> 00:37:40.470
Mitchell
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:41.910
>> Chad Mitchell photo, I think.
00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:42.550
>> Okay.
00:37:42.560 --> 00:37:47.030
>> Um but the album allows for a little
00:37:47.040 --> 00:37:50.470
captions, you know, as opposed to um
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:52.630
Instagram. I'm not on anything else, but
00:37:52.640 --> 00:37:57.349
um Chad W. Mitchell.
00:37:57.359 --> 00:37:59.030
I got to I don't even know my own
00:37:59.040 --> 00:38:01.109
website. I don't go there much, but um
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:01.829
>> we'll find it.
00:38:01.839 --> 00:38:05.270
>> Yeah. But there, if you go there, you
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.390
can look up those same images and order
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:09.910
whatever
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:11.829
>> suits you best off the website.
00:38:11.839 --> 00:38:15.030
>> Yeah. Yeah. Um so those are there. Um
00:38:15.040 --> 00:38:18.310
doesn't get promoted a whole lot, but um
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:20.230
but anyway, they're they're on there.
00:38:20.240 --> 00:38:23.829
They're available on there. Um, it's I
00:38:23.839 --> 00:38:26.150
don't know this. I'll show you this. Can
00:38:26.160 --> 00:38:26.790
I do that now?
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:27.030
>> Yeah,
00:38:27.040 --> 00:38:28.310
>> sure.
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:31.750
>> This is a piece of uh
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:35.349
and it usually says Oh, and it does. Um,
00:38:35.359 --> 00:38:39.030
from forest to floor on the back, but
00:38:39.040 --> 00:38:41.670
that's the kil dried maple the lacquer
00:38:41.680 --> 00:38:43.109
on it. And that's what the frames are
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:44.230
made out of that I
00:38:44.240 --> 00:38:45.670
>> I was wondering if you had noticed
00:38:45.680 --> 00:38:49.109
what's on the front of this table.
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:51.190
You're going to test me on the
00:38:51.200 --> 00:38:52.230
>> very top edge
00:38:52.240 --> 00:38:53.510
>> right here in front of us.
00:38:53.520 --> 00:38:55.910
>> Oh, the angle iron
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:57.109
the
00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:02.390
>> the same thing at the very top.
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:04.150
>> Oh, yeah. The the yellow metal.
00:39:04.160 --> 00:39:06.150
>> Yep. Now, that's yellow maple. That's
00:39:06.160 --> 00:39:07.990
what you gave me long time ago.
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:09.670
>> Oh, it looks like the way to make a
00:39:09.680 --> 00:39:10.550
frame of it.
00:39:10.560 --> 00:39:11.270
>> How about that?
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:13.510
>> And I never made a frame from it. So, I
00:39:13.520 --> 00:39:14.710
turned it into this where everybody
00:39:14.720 --> 00:39:16.069
would see it every time they sat down.
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:17.510
Well, you did good. Not cracking it,
00:39:17.520 --> 00:39:18.950
getting those things those screws in
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:20.150
there. Yeah, cuz that's
00:39:20.160 --> 00:39:21.670
>> it's it's tough.
00:39:21.680 --> 00:39:24.390
>> Killing dried means I don't know how far
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:25.910
Babe Ruth could have hit a home run with
00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:27.430
this thing, but
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:27.829
>> wow.
00:39:27.839 --> 00:39:29.190
>> It was solid.
00:39:29.200 --> 00:39:30.630
>> Well, well, that's a good segue. You
00:39:30.640 --> 00:39:32.390
know, you mentioned Babe Ruth and and
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:34.069
shift some gears. You've got some
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:36.230
pictures, some paintings behind you that
00:39:36.240 --> 00:39:37.670
you've done. Uh we've talked a little
00:39:37.680 --> 00:39:39.270
bit before we started recording with
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:40.870
your your NASCAR connections and
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:42.470
obviously your baseball connections. So,
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:44.470
so what else can we get into?
00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:46.310
>> Well, let's see. Um, I appreciate you
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:47.589
talking to me about the meal. I could
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:48.710
talk all day about that.
00:39:48.720 --> 00:39:49.670
>> As could we
00:39:49.680 --> 00:39:52.950
>> Let's uh let's stay with baseball. Um,
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.430
we'll go with
00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:59.750
I was a team photographer for the
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:02.069
Piedmont Phillies
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:04.069
in 95.
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:09.670
Pedmont U uh B Weevils after that until
00:40:09.680 --> 00:40:12.390
you know uh Dale and Brutin came in ' 01
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:15.109
and then I was there for until ' 07. But
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:18.630
this has Jeffrey Key number 34
00:40:18.640 --> 00:40:20.550
autograph. It was the very first home
00:40:20.560 --> 00:40:23.349
run out Moose Road.
00:40:23.359 --> 00:40:23.910
>> Chris.
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:25.910
>> And I'm going to tell you what, Jeff, if
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:28.069
you get to hear this, brother, I know
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:30.630
you hit that thing a ton cuz it hit the
00:40:30.640 --> 00:40:32.230
top of the locker room.
00:40:32.240 --> 00:40:33.910
>> Wow. [laughter]
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:37.109
>> When he when he said send it, he did.
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:37.510
>> Um,
00:40:37.520 --> 00:40:39.190
>> was that what game was that? Was that
00:40:39.200 --> 00:40:41.030
the first game
00:40:41.040 --> 00:40:45.109
>> that was that? I don't know. I I believe
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:46.870
now I don't know. I'm not going to
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:48.550
venture to say. I'd have to look it up,
00:40:48.560 --> 00:40:51.589
but um but no, he signed it and I
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.190
remember
00:40:53.200 --> 00:40:56.230
running from the media pit on the home
00:40:56.240 --> 00:40:59.430
side all the way through the stands
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:02.710
waiting between the whatever out and
00:41:02.720 --> 00:41:05.910
then shot through the visitors bullpin
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:07.829
and it was just still there. I'm like,
00:41:07.839 --> 00:41:08.950
>> nobody had picked.
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:10.470
>> They didn't know. They didn't know yet
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:12.950
that they could run and go get them.
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:13.910
>> Wow, that's cool.
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:16.630
>> So, I just abused my privilege, if you
00:41:16.640 --> 00:41:18.790
want to call it that, and uh and went
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:19.349
and got it.
00:41:19.359 --> 00:41:20.870
>> Took advantage of an opportunity.
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:23.778
>> Exactly. That's that's that's it. This
00:41:23.788 --> 00:41:25.589
[snorts] one
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:29.589
uh has Rob Burgerer and uh Todd Coburn,
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:32.630
uh our pitcher and catcher combination
00:41:32.640 --> 00:41:35.589
who threw the first no hitter.
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:37.430
And I had this hand painted. I didn't do
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:39.750
that. But Peont Bowl Wevils first no
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:42.230
hitter, April 30th, 1996.
00:41:42.240 --> 00:41:42.950
>> Oh.
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:46.069
>> So, um,
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:49.109
uh, let's see. This, we'll stay with
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:51.030
baseball.
00:41:51.040 --> 00:41:53.829
Uh, is this in the shot?
00:41:53.839 --> 00:41:54.470
>> Yes.
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:57.589
>> Okay. This was just a, um, just a card
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:02.309
pre-cut of, um, our trading cards, um,
00:42:02.319 --> 00:42:05.430
out of 2006.
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:08.630
The cool thing about it to me is that
00:42:08.640 --> 00:42:11.430
they let me
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:14.230
totally control the images. And the cool
00:42:14.240 --> 00:42:15.670
thing about it, and I've never seen
00:42:15.680 --> 00:42:18.790
another set like it, it's CPoned in the
00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:20.309
background.
00:42:20.319 --> 00:42:22.790
>> I wanted to tell our like a history cuz
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:26.390
we'd had baseball here before, but you
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:28.069
can see some throwback uniforms in
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.870
there. You know, I I I remember talking
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:34.230
uh Raphael Flores into into that like
00:42:34.240 --> 00:42:35.589
got to put the throwback uniform in
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:36.630
there, man. You're going to be one of
00:42:36.640 --> 00:42:38.150
the only people the throwback. He goes,
00:42:38.160 --> 00:42:41.990
"Okay, let's do it." So, we we did it.
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:44.630
But, um yeah, this is the set that
00:42:44.640 --> 00:42:48.230
wasn't um wasn't signed. But, yeah, I
00:42:48.240 --> 00:42:49.910
got to sit with the players in the
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:52.790
locker room and go through and I picked
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:56.550
out the best three. And I'm like, you
00:42:56.560 --> 00:42:58.630
can pick any one of these. They don't
00:42:58.640 --> 00:43:00.870
get to choose their cards, but they got
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:02.390
to do it in Canapapolis.
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:04.870
>> So, I thought that was I'm an 80s kid,
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:07.030
so everything's cool. But I thought that
00:43:07.040 --> 00:43:10.630
was cool. But, um, yeah. So, I've got
00:43:10.640 --> 00:43:12.710
Ricky Williams,
00:43:12.720 --> 00:43:14.230
Heisman Trophy winner.
00:43:14.240 --> 00:43:15.829
>> Couldn't hit a curveball, though.
00:43:15.839 --> 00:43:17.430
>> No, he couldn't. [laughter] But he
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:18.470
>> he hit everything else.
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:19.990
>> He could throw a frozen rope, though.
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:20.710
>> Yes, he could.
00:43:20.720 --> 00:43:22.390
>> Don't try him. Don't try him from third.
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:23.750
>> Bruce was What year did you work out
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:23.910
there?
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:30.309
>> I worked out there. Working at house and
00:43:30.319 --> 00:43:31.430
remember you out there. In fact, I think
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:32.230
I got
00:43:32.240 --> 00:43:33.430
>> I had my hat on backwards.
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:35.109
>> I can't take any pictures of you washing
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:36.550
clothes. [laughter]
00:43:36.560 --> 00:43:37.990
>> I'm pretty sure I got some pictures in
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:39.510
my phone that you took.
00:43:39.520 --> 00:43:39.990
>> Okay.
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:41.349
>> I'll have to see if I can dig them out
00:43:41.359 --> 00:43:42.870
and show them to you.
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:44.150
>> And then you got one.
00:43:44.160 --> 00:43:45.829
>> I was much younger back then. So,
00:43:45.839 --> 00:43:47.349
>> then you brought another sports piece
00:43:47.359 --> 00:43:49.910
that's very near and dear to us here.
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:51.430
>> Oh, yeah.
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:55.990
>> Well, this uh this was my guy as far as
00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:59.750
anybody's concerned. It still is. But um
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:03.430
these were pictures um that I had taken
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:05.910
except for this one. So I had taken all
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:09.750
these and um and just drew from them and
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:12.790
did a marker color pencil uh mixed media
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:16.390
piece celebrating his Oh gosh, that
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:17.829
should be seven. One, two, three, seven.
00:44:17.839 --> 00:44:19.589
Yeah. Four, five, six, seven. Yeah. Did
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:22.150
it in 96.
00:44:22.160 --> 00:44:25.750
So, and the cool gr is the fact that he
00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:29.270
signed it. Um, I know I'd mentioned
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:29.990
that, but
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:30.550
>> and
00:44:30.560 --> 00:44:33.030
>> there was like 76 total production hours
00:44:33.040 --> 00:44:34.550
in it. And
00:44:34.560 --> 00:44:37.349
>> and and that's kind of a neat tiein,
00:44:37.359 --> 00:44:40.470
too, because he had 76 total wins of his
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:41.109
career.
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:41.589
>> Yeah.
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:43.750
>> That's how many hours you spent drawing
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:44.150
that.
00:44:44.160 --> 00:44:44.950
>> Never thought about that.
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:45.829
>> Wow.
00:44:45.839 --> 00:44:47.670
>> Never thought about that. So, I think
00:44:47.680 --> 00:44:47.990
you had
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:49.430
>> sometimes those coincidences
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:51.190
coincidences just happen. There was
00:44:51.200 --> 00:44:53.190
something on there. It said 51. If I
00:44:53.200 --> 00:44:56.710
remember on the back of it had 51
00:44:56.720 --> 00:45:00.470
something when I saw
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:03.670
>> 51 and a half total hours uh with color
00:45:03.680 --> 00:45:05.349
>> and he was born in 51.
00:45:05.359 --> 00:45:08.069
>> Yep. Yep.
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:08.710
Yep.
00:45:08.720 --> 00:45:09.030
>> Wow.
00:45:09.040 --> 00:45:10.950
>> I always look for those crazy little
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:14.470
connections. But I remember
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:19.910
he he said when he signed it, he said,
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:21.270
I'm pretending I got a big busty
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:26.230
mustache. Um, who did this? Like, I did
00:45:26.240 --> 00:45:28.150
cuz [laughter]
00:45:28.160 --> 00:45:30.309
they went,
00:45:30.319 --> 00:45:33.670
that was it. That was it. So,
00:45:33.680 --> 00:45:34.069
>> well,
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:37.190
>> I took that as a major uh award.
00:45:37.200 --> 00:45:37.750
>> Yeah.
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:39.750
>> And
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:41.196
here it is. But you had so
00:45:41.206 --> 00:45:42.710
[clears throat] much going on. Like in
00:45:42.720 --> 00:45:45.829
96 you were doing the baseball stadium.
00:45:45.839 --> 00:45:47.670
You were doing racing.
00:45:47.680 --> 00:45:48.150
>> Y
00:45:48.160 --> 00:45:50.790
>> and it's just it was just one event
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:51.510
after another.
00:45:51.520 --> 00:45:54.470
>> Yeah. Dad dad told me a long time. It's
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:56.150
got to be him being a Marine, I guess.
00:45:56.160 --> 00:46:00.470
But he said, "Stay busy, boy, cuz uh you
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:03.349
won't make it in prison." [laughter]
00:46:03.359 --> 00:46:06.150
>> I said, "Yes, sir. Absolutely. Simple.
00:46:06.160 --> 00:46:06.790
Let's roll."
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:08.230
>> And then what about the sign? And it
00:46:08.240 --> 00:46:10.630
goes goes back to the mill. Um
00:46:10.640 --> 00:46:12.309
>> Oh, can you see it on the front?
00:46:12.319 --> 00:46:16.390
>> We can't see it from Let me let me talk.
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:19.430
>> Yeah, that's the um the the first place
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.150
when I went into the mill and of um
00:46:22.160 --> 00:46:25.510
gosh, I'm going forget what year. Um was
00:46:25.520 --> 00:46:28.390
um the carpenter shop just for the fact
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:31.270
that dad, you know, and he gave me work
00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:34.390
and but then right across from that was
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:36.230
a sign shop. I'm like, well, this is
00:46:36.240 --> 00:46:37.670
easy. Cool.
00:46:37.680 --> 00:46:39.910
>> So, I remember going in there and just I
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:41.349
mean literally drilling, looking at all
00:46:41.359 --> 00:46:43.829
the paint supplies, looking at the um
00:46:43.839 --> 00:46:45.670
and please y'all go look at the pictures
00:46:45.680 --> 00:46:48.150
because it'll it'll help bolster me and
00:46:48.160 --> 00:46:52.309
my stories, but um the floor, if you
00:46:52.319 --> 00:46:54.710
know who Jackson Pollock was, it's me
00:46:54.720 --> 00:46:57.750
studying art in school. He was the one
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.309
that would just drizzle artwork on the
00:47:00.319 --> 00:47:02.309
canvas and throw it on there and just
00:47:02.319 --> 00:47:04.710
drips and all that stuff. Jackson
00:47:04.720 --> 00:47:06.470
Pollock.
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:08.550
He did really good at it. But that's
00:47:08.560 --> 00:47:11.510
what the floor looked like with this
00:47:11.520 --> 00:47:13.589
under it. And you could [clears throat]
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:15.829
pick out the I don't know the mill
00:47:15.839 --> 00:47:20.230
green. It was like a avocado green. Um
00:47:20.240 --> 00:47:22.550
uh you know, black and gray and a lot of
00:47:22.560 --> 00:47:26.550
white. But um but yeah, but this was um
00:47:26.560 --> 00:47:28.069
in
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:30.950
open-end spin room where I got the floor
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:33.430
where I reclaimed the flooring
00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:36.710
and to me it's a d now it's a double
00:47:36.720 --> 00:47:39.430
entandra. All right. Well, what is that,
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:42.150
Chad? Um while the mill is up and
00:47:42.160 --> 00:47:45.510
running, we're number one, brother.
00:47:45.520 --> 00:47:49.750
>> We ruled Ruth in what we did.
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:52.870
>> Now I'm standing there by myself.
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:56.630
reading it.
00:47:56.640 --> 00:47:58.069
>> Job security.
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:01.670
>> Yeah. So, but I told myself I had to
00:48:01.680 --> 00:48:04.390
have it. The only thing I didn't have in
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.270
my pack was a hammer. That's why they're
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:10.470
tore out. But that that uh
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:11.910
>> So, now you carry a hammer everywhere
00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:13.589
you go.
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:15.123
>> There might be one in the car.
00:48:15.133 --> 00:48:16.230
[laughter]
00:48:16.240 --> 00:48:17.750
>> So, in there in the in the bathroom,
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:19.829
there's a sign that was painted up
00:48:19.839 --> 00:48:22.328
there. It says, "Please flush commode."
00:48:22.338 --> 00:48:23.349
[laughter]
00:48:23.359 --> 00:48:25.430
Um, and and there's some over here. It
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:28.470
says out of gas. Go to pump number two,
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:31.910
three, four, or pump three, pump two.
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:35.510
But, uh, so that sign shop, uh, people
00:48:35.520 --> 00:48:37.910
like Mike McFalls, Russ Hall,
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:38.870
>> I used to work for him.
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:39.670
>> Ballard,
00:48:39.680 --> 00:48:40.790
>> who used to work with him.
00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:44.069
>> Leroy Dwiggins. I mean, all those guys,
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:47.990
they they're the ones at Roland Daves.
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:51.109
Roland Daves is the was the
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:53.990
overseer of the the paint department
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:57.270
>> and I actually have his foreman jacket
00:48:57.280 --> 00:48:59.510
that says Canon Mills paint department
00:48:59.520 --> 00:49:01.430
on the back and it's multicolor and it's
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:02.870
got his initials on the front. I should
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:05.430
have brought it out here today since we
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:08.230
were talking about this. But um you know
00:49:08.240 --> 00:49:10.549
those guys were pretty much self-taught
00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:12.870
by the other guys in there. Yeah.
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:15.589
>> That could paint. And Russ Hall was who
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.510
lettered the pink car for us when we
00:49:17.520 --> 00:49:19.109
when we built the car.
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:20.950
>> And he used to do a lot of Dale's
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:23.109
haulers back in the day, hand lettering
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:25.030
those haulers and all that stuff.
00:49:25.040 --> 00:49:28.230
>> And but if Russ watches this episode, he
00:49:28.240 --> 00:49:29.670
could probably tell us exactly who
00:49:29.680 --> 00:49:31.910
painted that sign because because each
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:35.670
of them had their own style and and he's
00:49:35.680 --> 00:49:37.349
looked at a lot of the stuff that we've
00:49:37.359 --> 00:49:39.030
had and he'll say, "Well, you know,
00:49:39.040 --> 00:49:41.109
Leroy did that one or Balor did that
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:43.190
one." And I mean, he he'll know. So
00:49:43.200 --> 00:49:45.589
hopefully he'll watch the show and um
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:46.710
and be able to tell us.
00:49:46.720 --> 00:49:49.190
>> I want to say hello. I used to work for
00:49:49.200 --> 00:49:51.349
Mike right up the street here.
00:49:51.359 --> 00:49:51.829
>> Mhm.
00:49:51.839 --> 00:49:54.309
>> Um I was his artist. Uh
00:49:54.319 --> 00:49:56.630
>> Russ used to work Russ was his partner.
00:49:56.640 --> 00:49:56.950
>> Yeah.
00:49:56.960 --> 00:49:57.589
>> Yeah. Well,
00:49:57.599 --> 00:49:59.190
>> McFall and Hall
00:49:59.200 --> 00:50:01.750
>> going to the sign business. Um I worked
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:05.030
with him um uh at a sign company in
00:50:05.040 --> 00:50:06.390
Concord.
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:08.710
>> So I I remember his personality. I liked
00:50:08.720 --> 00:50:10.710
his personality. Easygoing, laid-back
00:50:10.720 --> 00:50:11.190
guy.
00:50:11.200 --> 00:50:13.270
>> Yeah. Um, Mike too.
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:16.470
>> Yeah, Russ was Russ was a great guy and
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:20.870
um he's uh very talented. Incredibly
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:23.510
talented and Mike Yeah, Mike is too.
00:50:23.520 --> 00:50:26.950
>> Um but yeah, I I'll have to um this
00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:28.710
episode post I'll send it to Russ and
00:50:28.720 --> 00:50:30.230
then it'll be cool to be able to add to
00:50:30.240 --> 00:50:30.630
the thing.
00:50:30.640 --> 00:50:31.589
>> Absolutely. [laughter]
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:32.950
>> Maybe that could be a trivia question.
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:33.990
>> Yeah, there we go.
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:35.510
>> We hadn't done one of those in a while.
00:50:35.520 --> 00:50:38.630
>> What's up, Russ? So, anything else you
00:50:38.640 --> 00:50:41.910
would like to share with with our crazy
00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:43.109
bunch here?
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:45.030
>> Oh, just
00:50:45.040 --> 00:50:46.630
Oh, let's see.
00:50:46.640 --> 00:50:48.630
>> David, you got anything back there for
00:50:48.640 --> 00:50:50.309
uh Chad?
00:50:50.319 --> 00:50:52.069
>> Not that I can think of. You know, I
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:54.390
just I appreciate you coming in sharing
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:57.270
stories. you know, sir, much like uh
00:50:57.280 --> 00:50:58.950
Ryan and Chris and Chuck have said, you
00:50:58.960 --> 00:50:59.750
know,
00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:03.030
>> I I've seen your work several places.
00:51:03.040 --> 00:51:05.910
You know, one thing I I would like to
00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:07.750
say is
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:09.670
the work that you do, you you did a
00:51:09.680 --> 00:51:11.990
great job capturing
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:15.109
those moments. And even though it's
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:16.870
still photography, you can see the
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:19.270
action of what's happening in that
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:21.829
moment. And you know, for anybody that
00:51:21.839 --> 00:51:24.870
you know is from this area, it it
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:27.349
definitely evokes those those memories
00:51:27.359 --> 00:51:29.750
and feelings of of the history of the
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:30.470
city.
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:32.549
>> Well, I appreciate that. That that sets
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:35.670
out what I want to do. And um you know,
00:51:35.680 --> 00:51:39.030
they always told us and Sam Roberts and
00:51:39.040 --> 00:51:41.750
Marty Price and David Foster and all
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:44.150
those guys I grew up with in baseball
00:51:44.160 --> 00:51:46.390
that were at the stadium. Um I learned a
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:48.950
lot from them, so thanks to them. But
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:51.190
they would kind of teach me, you know,
00:51:51.200 --> 00:51:53.349
and pass sort of in passing and in
00:51:53.359 --> 00:51:55.430
conversation. It's just, you know, tell
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:56.470
a story,
00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:59.270
>> tell as much as you possibly can in one
00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:00.630
shutter click. Yep. Wow.
00:52:00.640 --> 00:52:01.270
>> So,
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:04.069
>> well, and you know, I think thank you is
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:07.109
the from the far as the community goes,
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:09.109
thank you for what you were able to do
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:11.190
and take initiative to go do it
00:52:11.200 --> 00:52:13.030
>> because if you hadn't did it, I mean, I
00:52:13.040 --> 00:52:16.069
I've got a lot of amateur pictures of
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:18.630
outside and, you know, stuff like
00:52:18.640 --> 00:52:19.829
everybody does,
00:52:19.839 --> 00:52:22.470
>> but not not have the initiative,
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:23.589
>> I didn't see anybody,
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:25.750
>> haul some Hardies biscuits in there and
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:27.030
and, [laughter] you know,
00:52:27.040 --> 00:52:30.470
>> barge in. You know, that story is very
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:32.309
reminiscent to our good friend who was
00:52:32.319 --> 00:52:34.950
also on the show, Brett Offenberger, how
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:37.190
Brent how he just kind of drove right
00:52:37.200 --> 00:52:38.630
in. He had a work truck and they just
00:52:38.640 --> 00:52:39.829
thought he's supposed to be there, so he
00:52:39.839 --> 00:52:41.030
just drove right on in.
00:52:41.040 --> 00:52:43.430
>> Well, I'll never forget Danny Nhard
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:45.349
telling me one time at Charlotte or it
00:52:45.359 --> 00:52:47.270
might have been it was Rockingham. He
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:49.750
said, "Well, just follow us in." He
00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:51.190
said, "Put your hand on the car." He
00:52:51.200 --> 00:52:56.309
goes, "Go until you hear no." I went
00:52:56.319 --> 00:52:58.230
>> kind of like carrying a clipboard and
00:52:58.240 --> 00:53:00.309
having on a pair of safety glasses. You
00:53:00.319 --> 00:53:02.671
can get anybody like you belong.
00:53:02.681 --> 00:53:03.670
[laughter]
00:53:03.680 --> 00:53:04.950
>> Yep.
00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:06.630
>> Look the part, be the part.
00:53:06.640 --> 00:53:07.589
>> Yep. There you go.
00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:08.870
>> That's kind of how I carry it now.
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:10.549
>> Same. You got anything else?
00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:14.390
>> No, I'm just uh like I said, I have just
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:17.829
been thrilled to see all of his what
00:53:17.839 --> 00:53:20.230
he's documented over the years. The only
00:53:20.240 --> 00:53:22.710
question I had was by the time you got
00:53:22.720 --> 00:53:27.589
in there with um u the demolition crew,
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:31.910
had everything basically been taken,
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:34.870
there was nothing but the wall standing
00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:37.829
uh like the signs and stuff or was any
00:53:37.839 --> 00:53:39.990
of that stuff still available at that
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:40.710
point or
00:53:40.720 --> 00:53:41.910
>> Yeah. Um
00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:43.030
>> but it just went down.
00:53:43.040 --> 00:53:44.549
>> This gives me chills talking about this.
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:47.349
Um when I got in there, I got in there
00:53:47.359 --> 00:53:52.950
early and um
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:54.870
whenever All right. I was able to take
00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:56.630
You'll see pictures. Just please go look
00:53:56.640 --> 00:53:59.910
at them. Um I was able to get in a
00:53:59.920 --> 00:54:02.069
balloon at Cotton Stock or
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:04.069
>> I remember that was I remember that too.
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:05.670
>> And I didn't plan it. I didn't call
00:54:05.680 --> 00:54:07.430
ahead. I didn't email. I don't know if I
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:10.549
could email them, but um so I'm
00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:13.109
literally I'm stroking like a madman
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:16.150
with cameras towards that balloon and
00:54:16.160 --> 00:54:17.829
the only person I think that stood my
00:54:17.839 --> 00:54:20.309
way was Phyllis Beaver. [laughter]
00:54:20.319 --> 00:54:23.190
And I'm like, "Okay." I said, "Phyllis,
00:54:23.200 --> 00:54:25.270
I'm going up." And I looked at the they
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:27.270
call them balloon pilots, I guess. And I
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:28.710
said, "You got room for one more?" I
00:54:28.720 --> 00:54:30.950
say, she goes, "Come on." I go, "Let's
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:33.589
go." And she held my cameras. I jumped
00:54:33.599 --> 00:54:36.549
in. I took the balloon ride of a
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:37.190
lifetime.
00:54:37.200 --> 00:54:38.230
>> I remember that day.
00:54:38.240 --> 00:54:39.030
>> I forgot about it.
00:54:39.040 --> 00:54:42.230
>> And just the fact that I got over the
00:54:42.240 --> 00:54:44.710
stacks without going directly over them,
00:54:44.720 --> 00:54:47.430
that allowed me to get that that photo
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:50.790
um photos. And the coolest thing when I
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:53.430
changed and went to wide, I couldn't
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:54.950
have planned it, but here comes the
00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:55.990
train.
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:56.950
>> Wow. [laughter]
00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:59.510
>> I got the train down, too. Yeah.
00:54:59.520 --> 00:55:01.990
>> So, y'all do me a favor. I want to do
00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:04.309
this. Um, I got to kind of mix it up in
00:55:04.319 --> 00:55:07.510
here a little bit. Go to the website,
00:55:07.520 --> 00:55:10.470
pick out one image. I will get you a
00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:11.109
poster.
00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:11.829
>> Oh, man.
00:55:11.839 --> 00:55:13.109
>> To put in here somewhere.
00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:13.829
>> That'd be awesome.
00:55:13.839 --> 00:55:15.829
>> We will proudly display it and thank you
00:55:15.839 --> 00:55:16.549
for that, Chad.
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:19.510
>> And um, but but there's a picture on
00:55:19.520 --> 00:55:22.069
here um, and I've seen it before and I
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:24.150
forgot that it was one that you had
00:55:24.160 --> 00:55:26.470
taken. I've always liked it. I'm not
00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:27.990
saying this is the one I would want in
00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:30.710
here, but it just speaks
00:55:30.720 --> 00:55:31.910
>> Oh, wow. Oh,
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:33.190
>> I know. I can haul away.
00:55:33.200 --> 00:55:35.750
>> I mean, those connector because I
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:37.589
remember the connectors between the
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:39.829
buildings were always that's where that
00:55:39.839 --> 00:55:40.309
was hanging.
00:55:40.319 --> 00:55:41.670
>> Oh, really? How about that? I saw the
00:55:41.680 --> 00:55:43.670
picture of it. Um, and there's a picture
00:55:43.680 --> 00:55:45.589
of that sign in here. Yeah, right there
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:47.589
it is.
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>> And
00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:48.950
>> that is that sign.
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>> I can I can put myself back in the mail
00:55:50.720 --> 00:55:51.910
right now looking at those pictures.
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:56.150
Just Yeah. Same same. Absolutely.
00:55:56.160 --> 00:55:57.270
>> Um, this has been great.
00:55:57.280 --> 00:55:58.309
>> Really great pictures.
00:55:58.319 --> 00:56:01.670
>> No. So, it is chadwmitchell.com
00:56:01.680 --> 00:56:03.349
is is what the website is.
00:56:03.359 --> 00:56:05.109
>> Hey, thanks for telling me. [laughter]
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:06.630
>> Anything else you need to know? Is it,
00:56:06.640 --> 00:56:08.870
you know,
00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:10.549
>> it's still up and running.
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:11.829
>> Pay my bill. Yeah.
00:56:11.839 --> 00:56:13.750
>> A lot of great pictures. I think if I
00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:15.190
remember right, and I haven't seen it
00:56:15.200 --> 00:56:16.870
yet, but isn't there a picture of your
00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:17.990
dad in there?
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:18.309
>> Yes.
00:56:18.319 --> 00:56:19.910
>> Um somewhere.
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:21.910
>> He's looking out of a window or looking
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:22.710
out of a door.
00:56:22.720 --> 00:56:24.710
>> That's my favorite one. Uh especially
00:56:24.720 --> 00:56:28.390
now. Um, we were
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:30.950
we were in distribution top floor, maybe
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:32.950
third floor. It was the floor that had
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:35.589
all the safety hour awards and plaques
00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:37.589
and stuff on the wall. Um, we were
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:40.950
walking through um the the folks that
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:43.589
were taking stuff. I mean, they had gone
00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:45.589
ransacked a lot of stuff and it's sad,
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:49.750
but there were export books on the
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:53.190
floor, big post books, and um I picked
00:56:53.200 --> 00:56:55.510
one up. Matter of fact, I donated it um
00:56:55.520 --> 00:56:58.549
the other night. So that from 1951, I
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:02.150
think um when we were exporting to
00:57:02.160 --> 00:57:04.150
Hawaii and Alaska.
00:57:04.160 --> 00:57:06.230
>> Yeah. So that tells you something. But
00:57:06.240 --> 00:57:07.910
um
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:10.789
um Oh gosh, I'm Where was I going with
00:57:10.799 --> 00:57:11.349
this?
00:57:11.359 --> 00:57:12.549
>> Dad looking out the window.
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:17.750
>> Yes. Um he he we were third floor. Um,
00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:20.470
but the the pile of rubble was so high
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:23.030
that it looked like we're ground floor.
00:57:23.040 --> 00:57:25.270
And I just happened to look up and dad's
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:26.789
standing there. We got our hard hats on
00:57:26.799 --> 00:57:29.109
and he's touching these loose bricks in
00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:31.109
the hole that they'd knocked in there.
00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:33.349
>> And there it is.
00:57:33.359 --> 00:57:36.230
>> Yeah. I I'd never seen that. Is not
00:57:36.240 --> 00:57:39.430
playing. I shot that. I dang near cried
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:41.670
after I had it. And I knew I had it.
00:57:41.680 --> 00:57:42.069
>> Um,
00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:44.390
>> Life magazine quality stuff. I well
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:45.510
that's a push but
00:57:45.520 --> 00:57:47.030
>> no trust me this is
00:57:47.040 --> 00:57:49.910
>> but it tells it tells a bigger story to
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.230
me because I know the background you
00:57:52.240 --> 00:57:53.109
know
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:55.510
>> obviously grew up with him but um
00:57:55.520 --> 00:58:00.309
>> but yeah um he's looking out and he's
00:58:00.319 --> 00:58:01.910
seeing his past
00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:03.030
>> right
00:58:03.040 --> 00:58:05.109
>> but yet I'm looking out kind of seeing
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:06.630
the future
00:58:06.640 --> 00:58:08.309
>> what's he thinking and we're right in
00:58:08.319 --> 00:58:10.549
the middle of all that in that one image
00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:11.190
and
00:58:11.200 --> 00:58:13.910
>> now I I understand unbelievable But
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:18.150
yeah, so the um the the the towel tags
00:58:18.160 --> 00:58:20.870
you guys have came from right after that
00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:21.349
shot
00:58:21.359 --> 00:58:22.150
>> of you.
00:58:22.160 --> 00:58:24.309
>> Um cuz I got a roll.
00:58:24.319 --> 00:58:25.349
>> Oh, from that same shot.
00:58:25.359 --> 00:58:27.030
>> Yeah. Also right here.
00:58:27.040 --> 00:58:29.109
>> And I tell you what, when I bring the uh
00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:31.190
the poster, I'll bring you a little
00:58:31.200 --> 00:58:34.230
stack of uh Egyptian Supreme
00:58:34.240 --> 00:58:35.349
>> line
00:58:35.359 --> 00:58:36.630
>> that we did here.
00:58:36.640 --> 00:58:37.349
>> How about that?
00:58:37.359 --> 00:58:39.030
>> It's not on a roll, it's individuals,
00:58:39.040 --> 00:58:40.630
but um
00:58:40.640 --> 00:58:43.750
>> Very cool. I made sure everybody had,
00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:47.589
>> you know, a photo or two um with the KHA
00:58:47.599 --> 00:58:49.270
logo on it. I did I designed that. I
00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:51.349
don't know if you knew that, but um so I
00:58:51.359 --> 00:58:53.190
put that on the time and the date just
00:58:53.200 --> 00:58:56.870
just sort of memorialized that. But um
00:58:56.880 --> 00:58:59.910
>> and I gave everybody a a tag so they got
00:58:59.920 --> 00:59:00.630
a kick out of that.
00:59:00.640 --> 00:59:02.630
>> And those are phenomenal.
00:59:02.640 --> 00:59:06.309
>> Yeah. I mean those are all wonderful and
00:59:06.319 --> 00:59:08.390
>> you know I mean again we've said it a
00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:10.630
million times. I mean that documenting
00:59:10.640 --> 00:59:12.710
that history,
00:59:12.720 --> 00:59:14.950
there's plenty of kids alive in this
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:17.990
town right now who don't know anything
00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:18.710
about that,
00:59:18.720 --> 00:59:19.829
>> right? And that's
00:59:19.839 --> 00:59:21.589
>> no clue what was there.
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:24.150
>> That's that's where all this comes in.
00:59:24.160 --> 00:59:24.950
>> Yep.
00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:27.589
>> I mean, I I feel like I'm bragging, but
00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:29.349
I had that foresight then.
00:59:29.359 --> 00:59:30.470
>> Oh, yeah. you you
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:32.230
>> I didn't know that town was going to
00:59:32.240 --> 00:59:34.630
change, the city was going to change so
00:59:34.640 --> 00:59:36.150
much,
00:59:36.160 --> 00:59:39.030
but now I'm even more glad.
00:59:39.040 --> 00:59:41.030
>> Be proud, brother. Be proud cuz you you
00:59:41.040 --> 00:59:43.430
did a great job and it's to be commended
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:44.309
and we thank you.
00:59:44.319 --> 00:59:44.710
>> Well,
00:59:44.720 --> 00:59:46.069
>> and to be a South Rowan guy.
00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:48.121
>> Yes, sir. Pride. Raider pride.
00:59:48.131 --> 00:59:49.030
[laughter]
00:59:49.040 --> 00:59:51.270
>> Thank you for coming and sharing that
00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:52.069
with us today. Thank you,
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:52.870
>> fellas. I appreciate it.
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:53.990
>> Been a great show,
00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:55.109
>> David. You too, buddy.
00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:56.150
>> You as well. It's
00:59:56.160 --> 00:59:57.589
>> going to be a good year for our Raiders,
00:59:57.599 --> 00:59:58.549
by the way. They're going I think
00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:00.870
they're going to have a good year.
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:03.910
>> I'm just amazed. Had a great time. Good
01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:05.670
great going down memory lane.
01:00:05.680 --> 01:00:06.150
>> Yeah.
01:00:06.160 --> 01:00:09.510
>> And uh he done an excellent job and
01:00:09.520 --> 01:00:11.510
>> I'm going home and school myself.
01:00:11.520 --> 01:00:11.990
>> Yeah.
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:15.109
>> On chadmmititchell.com.
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:16.309
>> Probably buying something off there.
01:00:16.319 --> 01:00:18.150
>> Yeah, we better. [laughter]
01:00:18.160 --> 01:00:20.549
>> Just a we appreciate it.
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:21.910
>> Yeah. Well, let let me know what you
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:25.190
think. We will we might buy some things.
01:00:25.200 --> 01:00:28.150
>> Very good. Um,
01:00:28.160 --> 01:00:30.549
what's for supper? I already ate.
01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:32.710
>> Damn it. [laughter] We ain't eating. We
01:00:32.720 --> 01:00:34.390
had eaten in so long. I was thinking
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:37.270
we'd go out and do something tonight.
01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:39.109
>> You know, I'm not opposed to double
01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:41.030
double suppers.
01:00:41.040 --> 01:00:43.109
>> Good deal. Good [laughter] deal. Um,
01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:44.710
>> is that like second breakfast, double
01:00:44.720 --> 01:00:45.190
supper?
01:00:45.200 --> 01:00:45.990
>> Oh, there you go.
01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:47.430
>> Double supper.
01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:48.069
>> Second supper.
01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:49.589
>> We haven't done We haven't done an
01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:50.870
episode in a while, but you know,
01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:52.630
definitely looking at my phone back
01:00:52.640 --> 01:00:54.710
here. Want to give our thoughts to
01:00:54.720 --> 01:00:56.950
Chicks and their the Lee Sound Shop
01:00:56.960 --> 01:00:58.789
family. Tough week for them.
01:00:58.799 --> 01:00:59.349
>> Yeah, it is.
01:00:59.359 --> 01:01:00.870
>> Yeah, we think about you, Chick.
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:01.750
>> Great people.
01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:02.549
>> Yes.
01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:04.470
>> Um, cool deal. Anything, Ryan?
01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:07.190
>> No, I'm good. David, any final thoughts?
01:01:07.200 --> 01:01:10.069
>> Hey, just appreciate Chad coming and and
01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:12.230
sharing his history and and pictures
01:01:12.240 --> 01:01:14.230
with us and looking forward to diving
01:01:14.240 --> 01:01:16.950
in. Um, already glanced at it before.
01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:19.030
I'm I'm particularly partial to the
01:01:19.040 --> 01:01:21.109
picture of the the couple looking out
01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:22.150
over the lake.
01:01:22.160 --> 01:01:24.150
>> Mhm. Cuz mama and I used to always, that
01:01:24.160 --> 01:01:25.510
was one of the things. She would come
01:01:25.520 --> 01:01:27.750
pick me up from preschool at First
01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:29.349
Baptist and we would go out at the lake
01:01:29.359 --> 01:01:30.710
and we'd throw pennies in.
01:01:30.720 --> 01:01:31.589
>> Yep. Yep.
01:01:31.599 --> 01:01:33.589
>> Welcome back here anytime. Well, all
01:01:33.599 --> 01:01:34.470
right. We'll do.
01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:34.870
>> Absolutely.
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:37.109
>> Might have to bring the cameras with me.
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:37.510
>> All right.
01:01:37.520 --> 01:01:38.549
>> Anytime. You know, [laughter] you're
01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:40.470
welcome anytime. Uh if you want to come
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:42.309
on for whatever reason or just come sit
01:01:42.319 --> 01:01:44.309
in our Ktown canteen and
01:01:44.319 --> 01:01:45.510
>> snap a few shots.
01:01:45.520 --> 01:01:47.109
>> Have Yeah. Yeah. Have
01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:48.390
>> There's a lot of junk in here to take
01:01:48.400 --> 01:01:49.030
pictures.
01:01:49.040 --> 01:01:51.829
>> Always. It's only junk to somebody that
01:01:51.839 --> 01:01:53.109
didn't put it in here.
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:54.870
>> That's it. That's it. Well, guys, that's
01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:57.430
number 74 in the books here uh for the
01:01:57.440 --> 01:01:59.910
Ktown Connection. Um Chuck, I think we
01:01:59.920 --> 01:02:01.190
haven't Your foot's finally getting
01:02:01.200 --> 01:02:02.390
better from when you broke it back in
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:03.750
March. I think we need to go play some
01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:05.109
pickle ball soon.
01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:07.190
>> Uh yeah.
01:02:07.200 --> 01:02:08.789
>> So, we we need to start thinking about
01:02:08.799 --> 01:02:12.069
that. Uh we need to plan an on scene
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:14.150
remote show back down there. That That
01:02:14.160 --> 01:02:14.870
was a good time.
01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:16.390
>> We did have a good time. Um,
01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:18.870
>> and we're about to release a a Ktown
01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:20.710
Connection store where people can
01:02:20.720 --> 01:02:21.910
>> Yes, we are.
01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:23.270
>> We're still working on that. Uh,
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