FKN Classics Double Feature! Wayne McRoy - Weaponized Metadata | Ryan Gable - Occult Xmas

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Enjoy these back to back classic Forbidden Knowledge News episodes. Today,
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I want to welcome back to the show Wayne McRoy.
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He is an author and researcher who explores the hidden
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agendas linking modern technologies to their ancient alchemical roots and antiquity. Wayne,
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welcome back. How you doing good?
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Chris? Good to be here. Always a pleasure, my friend.
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It's always great to talk to you. I love our conversations,
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really enjoy the research you're doing. And today we're going
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to dive into what you're calling synchronistic metadata and its
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effects on the human mind. As I began my spiritual
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journey of awareness, I started to realize how not only
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there's a synchronistic element to our reality, but our reality
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may fundamentally operate off of what we can only describe
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in our modern age as algorithms or some sort of
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simulated reality. And these understanding are just based on our
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current technological level of awareness. But there's also a layer
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of reality that has been overlaid over our baseline reality,
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and it's constantly evolving from radio and television and now
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social media, the internet, learning algorithms, and artificial intelligence, and
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it's become extremely difficult at times to navigate information online
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as well as do the kind of work that we're doing,
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like sharing research, and when we combine the possibility that
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our technology is being used in alchemical or even ritualistic ways,
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that opens up some pretty insane possibilities, which I'm sure
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we're going to get into today. So I'm very much
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looking forward to learning more about your research and all
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about synchronistic metadata. But before we do, it's been a
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while since you've been on. Remind the audience a little
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bit about yourself, where they can find you, and what
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brought you to this work that you're doing.
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All right, Man, always appreciated people could find me over
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at my website. I've centralized everything there at www dot
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Alchemical tech revolution dot com. What brought me to this
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was a lot of different things that I had seen
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going on in the world around me. I've always had
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a very curious mind and have always been drawn to
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the esoteric and these types of things. So through the
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course of the years, many different things that have happened
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in my life, a confluence of events brought me looking
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down these various rabbit holes, and I like to tell
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people I accidentally became an expert in a cult philosophy
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because of that, and that pretty much describes where we're
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coming from with this. So what I've attempted to do
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is deconstruct some of what we see going on in
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the reality around us and come up with terms or
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names for these different bits of information out there in
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the information field, the overall general information field, so that
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we can better understand what it is we're talking about
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and connect the dots. So I have come to recognize
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this as what I like to call synchronistic metadata, and
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it is always out there in the ether for people
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to pick apart in order to connect the dots and
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see things out there encoded in the esoteric background of
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all of this in the term that I like to use,
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which is the Zeitgeist, which is a German word which
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means spirit of the time. And I like that term
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because there is a spiritual component to all of this
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that oftentimes gets overlooked. Now, everybody seems to agree that
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there is this broad information field that exists, it's just
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they call it different things, depending upon what type of
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a lens of observation you're looking at it from. Now
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in the occult, oftentimes they'll refer to this as the
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acacic record, or they call it ancestral memory. This kind
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of thing in the science is they'll call this genetic
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memory or epigenetic memory. They will call it, depending upon
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another frame of reference that you look at it as
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through the field of physics, they call it the quantum
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information field. So they refer to this. They all agree,
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all of these various different places and positions agree that
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this information field exists, but they don't agree on what
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to call it. So I like to apply the term
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Zeitgeist to this, because, like I said, there is a
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broader spiritual component to it that also takes precedent in
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many of these things. So when I'm talking about the zeitgeist,
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this is the greater information field. And when I'm talking
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about what I call synchromistic metadata, that is little disparate
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bits of information out there in the zeitgeist, in the
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information field that point in a particular direction. So sometimes
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these things look disparate and unconnected, but they still have
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an influence on the unconscious human mind. And this influence
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it has on the unconscious human mind will at some
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point affect you subconsciously and alter your conscious behavior. Now,
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the premise that I come at this from is there
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exists in this world a power structure where at the
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very top it's a pyramid scheme. Right, we all kind
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of agree on that it's all kind of centralized control
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from the top down. Now, what I've identified through the
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course of my studies is that at the tippy top
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of this power pyramid in this world there exists a
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group of dark occultists who run things, that's what I
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like to call them, and just beneath them in the
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pecking order are what they call their little minions that
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run around and get things done. The technocrats. Now, these
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are oftentimes considered they're useful idiots who get things done,
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and many people might have a problem with this type
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of an approach, but I think it's demonstrable when you
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really delve into these things that at the topmost levels
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there are occultists who have used the dark side of
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things to influence the power structure of this world. So
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when you keep that in mind, you know that at
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the topmost levels they are aware, well aware of some
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of these occult principles that they use, and they leverage
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against the masses for purposes of control in advancing their
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own agendas. And then they also have the class of
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people that go out and get it done. They have
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the movers and shakers, the policy makers of this world,
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whom I call the technocrats. Now that's just how I
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observe this. You could apply whatever terms to this you
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would like, but certainly it's demonstrable. This is how it
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happens from top down control. Now there's also, aside from that,
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a spiritual component to this, as I had alluded to,
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so oftentimes it would seem that there's a beyond human
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intelligence that guides and directs these things and sometimes puts
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these bits of information out there in the greater zeitgeist
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to influence the human mind. And this is wherein things
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get a little bit more devious, because we realize that
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there's powers beyond human involved in this. Then you begin
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to understand a little bit clearer some of the evils
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that have been done by these dark ocultists who run things,
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and of course the spiritual components that give them their
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marching orders and direct and steer the greater zeitgeist at times.
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And then these technocrat minions that run around and do things,
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the policy makers, the names you're probably familiar with at
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the top levels of the pecking order here in this
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world that are sometimes associated with various agendas. So when
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you understand that, what we do is we look at
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these little bits of synchronistic metadata and we could connect
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some dots there and show the occult underpinnings of a
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lot of this. And myself and my friend Richard Willett
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over in the UK have recently launched a brand new
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podcast called Synchronistic and we attempt to decipher some of
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this out there in this greater information field and point
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in the directions that it's leading to. So I know
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that's a lot to kind of frame this conversation with.
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But did you want to go in any particular direction here,
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like any particular types.
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Well, well, maybe we could start with where are modern
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technological alchemical infiltration really begaan and maybe a little bit
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of a time frame that this has occurred over.
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Okay, Well, this stuff has been present with us from
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the very beginning of our civilization. So when you really
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go and look back, you look back at all these
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old alchemical principles and the old sciences, the old natural sciences, Well,
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these things have been understood by this controlling priest craft,
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this priest class throughout all of our recorded time so
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they have kept some of these secrets of the ages
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hidden from mankind, and they've misapplied and misused them for
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their own greedy agendas. And this is what has gone on.
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So we've had this division in classes in this world.
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This creates a type of class warfare where you have
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the quote unquote elites and then you have the rest
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of us. And they have hidden purposefully a lot of
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the information that they know about the old natural sciences
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and aw chemical sciences from us. And a lot of
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this is coming back into the light of day in
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the modern era with some of the advances in our
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technologies and our capabilities, and certainly all of these things
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we're seeing happen on a technological level today are derived
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from some of these old mystery school teachings about these
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old sciences, and they've The problem with this is what
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has happened is in the modern era, a lot of
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this has been misapplied and misappropriated by these people for
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their own agendas. So it's all about control at the
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end the day. These people want to become gods in
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no uncertain terms, and they see the use of high
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technology as their way to do that. And the misapplication
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of these principles to do that, as to how to
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get it done, and of course this always culminates in
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what we call the transhumanist notion. So that's where we're
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heading with this, and all of these different disparate bits
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of information out there seem to point in that direction.
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So it is an agenda as old as time itself.
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But the big turnaround, turning point in it that I've
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come across every time I go throughout my research looking
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at this and going back through the history of the
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occult and occultism and the various secret society groups, I
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always find turning points at very particular points in history.
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in the mid to late eighteen hundreds when a lot
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of these notions came to see the light of day
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and have been presented out there in different forums where
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they hadn't been present before. And what has happened is
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they've taken these principles, the original alchemical principles that were
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intended for good and intended for the understanding of the
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workings of nature, and they've inverted them and turned them
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completely upside down on their head in order to create
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a completely synthetic reality, and that's what these people are
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all about, these dark occultists at the top of the
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power structure. It's all about an artificial knockoff of the
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natural order that they can be the gods of. So
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that's what they've done. They've taken these principles and misapplied
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them with the inversion principle and put that firmly in place.
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So I always tell people, if you want a true
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definition of what Satanism is, it's the inversion principle that
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is the pure doctrine of Satanism. So when you understand that,
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when people are saying it's a Satanic conspiracy, they're not wrong,
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but maybe they're thinking about it from the wrong frame
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of reference. But it is the inversion principle applied. And
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that's what these people have done. They've taken these old
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occulted bits of knowledge of the natural sciences and they've
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misapplied them for their own gains, and in so doing,
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they've caused the inversion of these processes, these natural processes,
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and they have created this situation that we have today
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where we have this class disparity, we have this information
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disparity between the ruling class and the rest of us.
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And they do see themselves as a ruling class. And
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there's various reasons for this, but at any rate, that's
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kind of where I come from my approach.
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Before we get deeper into the manufactured level of synchronisticism
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that we deal with on a daily basis, let's go
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back to the natural order of things and how we
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experience synchronicity naturally. To the best of your ability, how
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would you describe the mechanics behind this? What do you
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believe is this form of communication? What is the purpose?
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Do you think it is some sort of intelligence that
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is guiding us either on a personal or even collective basis.
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and this falls back on various hierarchies of spiritual powers
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as explored by many thinkers, not only in the occult,
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but in the religious circles and framework as well. So
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you have these angelic orders of beings and these fallen
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angelic orders of beings that have some influence and sway here,
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and you have other spiritual entities, intelligences, forces, however you
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want to frame this, that guide indirect things, things like
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elementals that have been explored by Paracelsus and others, these
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powers that seem to have an effect here in this reality.
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And what it all boils down to is there's intelligent
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design present in this creation that we live in. There
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is an intelligent order. There are natural forces in processes
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and intelligences that guide indirect the building and the manifestation
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of things here. So when you understand that that there's
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an intelligence inherent in all of it, and that would
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be the essence of in quality of life itself present
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in all of it, then you have a better and
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clearer picture of what we have here now our modern
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day science or scientism more rightly called what have you?
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Believe that there's nothing other than this physical reality in
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which we live and exist and have our being, and
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that one day nothing exploded and became everything that we
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see in experience here, and that is the nature of
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reality according to the materialists who want you to buy
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into that paradigm. Now this is part of the control
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paradigm as well. They want you to think in terms
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of this physical reality being all that there is, and
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all phenomena could be explained away as some cause and
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effect sequence in this physical reality, Even things like consciousness.
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the byproduct of the electrochemical activity of the brain and
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brain stem. So if you believe that, then you're caught
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in what I like to call the hyper materialist paradigm.
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they can thoroughly convince you that consciousness is nothing more
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than the byproduct of the electrochemical activity of your brain
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and brain stem, then theoretically it could be reproduced via algorithm.
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consciousness could live on in a machine. And this is
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where the transhumanist notion of things comes into being. And
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this is what they firmly want you to believe. They
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want you to believe you can live forever in some
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type of a digital realm, that they've created a synthetic realm,
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which is a cheap knockoff of the real deal here
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and what I'm saying here essentially is this, if you
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study into occultism and into a lot of these old
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mystery school teachings and the cosmo conception of a lot
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of them, you will discover that they believe and they teach.
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And I can't say whether this is true or not,
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but there's people in positions of power in this world
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that believes this is true. So the things they do
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to act on it will affect all of us, so
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it's important you understand it. They believe that there is
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a subplane of this physical reality called the etheric realm
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or the etheric world, the ether being a portion thereof.
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So essentially what's being done is they are synthetically manufacturing
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a false etheric layer to this reality, and that is
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called the digital realm, it's called metaverse, it's called Web
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three point zero. That's what's going on in the background
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behind all of this, and this is where technology and
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occultism kind of meet in the middle on a lot
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of this stuff. So that is essentially what they're trying
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to And if you dig deeply enough into some of
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these old ocult teachings and belief systems, there's an important
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principle involved here, because you see if you look into
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I like to use the Rosicrucian Cosmo conception as a
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good example because it delineates it pretty clearly for most
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people to understand. There's this stepping down phase from divine
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source into manifestation in physical reality, and through this process,
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the step just above where we are in the physical
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reality here, which is the lowest phase. According to them,
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they say, we live in the dense chemical region of
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physical reality, and just above us is this etheric region. Well,
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manifestation is a stepping down process. So in order for
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something to begin to manifest physically in this dense chemical region,
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first it must begin to manifest in the etheric region.
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Thus they want to build this digital etheric region, and
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it's a false knockoff. Now, I know this is probably
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a little deep in a bridge too far for some people.
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But what you need to understand is it doesn't matter
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if you believe it or not. There's people in positions
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of power in this world that do and the things
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they do to act on their beliefs affect all of us.
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So it's important that you understand why and how they
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do the things they do. So this is the whole
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notion of why they are attempting to digitize everything, even
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human consciousness, because this falls into the category if you
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delve into the realms of hermetic science and the Kabbalah,
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this is the creation of what they call the world
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of shells. The world of shells being this gross materiality,
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devoid of any spirit, and that's what they're attempting to
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create because they could be the gods of that region
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if that's the case. So I know that's a lot
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to take in, but I was wondering if you wanted
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to go any particular direction with any of that.
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There's plenty of directions that we could go. But from
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everything that I've learned, our reality unfolds greatly based on
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our perception of things, and in our modern age, it's
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very easy to control perception, especially if you're a person
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that believes what you're seeing on the news that you
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if you spend a lot of time on social media,
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watching TV, being brainwashed, this will affect your reality. And
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I like to link this to people's paranormal experiences, UFO sightings,
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alien encounters, where I've interviewed so many people who have
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had these experiences, but it seems to be heavily based
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on their perception at the time or even traumatic experiences
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that they've had. It seems if they start to have
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negative paranormal or metaphysical encounters, that will perpetuate itself and
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reflect itself in their daily lives as well.
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But on the other token, people I speak to who
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have a pretty bright outlook on life and have these
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paranormal experiences, usually have very positive experiences, and it seems
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to be all based on the way we view things
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at the time. But when we add in this perception
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management factor, there's all kinds of doors that can open,
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especially with what we're seeing. I believe with this whole
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UFO phenomena.
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Oh most certainly I agree with you there, and this
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is all part of it. And these are all bits
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of this synchronistic metadata that I'm talking about. So it
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affects some people differently than others, but it does have
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an effect on the unconscious human mind, and that's the
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important point here. So what you need to understand is
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things that were framed by the likes of Carl Jung
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about what he calls this information field that we're referring
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to here that I like to call the zeitgeist. He
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calls it the collective unconscious and that is a huge
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part of this. So they put symbols and signs and
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words and phrases and things like this out there for
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us to take in in our unconscious mind, and it
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will affect us because we represent well, I should say,
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we recognize the archetype that's represented by that symbol, those words,
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et cetera, et cetera. And this is what I call
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the synchronistic metadata. So when you take in these little
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bits of metadata and your brain unconsciously connects the dots
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with these things, it affects your future behavior. And most
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people are completely unaware that this goes on. And it's
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a very very complex type of way of thinking of this,
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but it could be broken down in some simple concepts.
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And that's what I'm attempting to do by trying to
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make this information available to people, give people tools that
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they could work with to recognize the patterns that emerge. Like,
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for example, we see repeat patterns going on all the time,
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don't we in the world around us? Yea, let's think
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back a couple months here. We have all of this
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UAP phenomenon, UFO phenomenon, all of these mystery drones. And
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notice the language they use to describe these mystery drones. Well,
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this is a direct allusion to the mystery schools. So
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it's mystery drones. They're trying to reconceptualize the concept of
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what this is and steer the human minds thinking on this.
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So now when you see lights in the sky. You're
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not thinking, hey, that's UFOs, that's aliens up there, like
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they would have had you believe in prior times. Well
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now they want you to think, oh, that's drones. Those
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are unidentified drones. So see how they affect your mind
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in subtle ways that maybe you don't recognize on a
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conscious level. But they know this and that's why they've
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reapplied these types of terms. So this is all part
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of the greater pattern. What I was getting to here
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is we see this rise of appearances of these weird
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things in the sky, and then shortly after that, what
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do we have, Well, we have massive natural disaster wildfires.
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This is a repeated type of a pattern. If you
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go back, you look at the events of twenty twenty one,
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Australia was on fire. There was a flap just prior
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to that of UFO sightings, UAP sightings and that phenomenon
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being in the news media. Then Australia was on fire,
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and then we have all kinds of rollouts of these
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different how should we say, pandemic type situations and things
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like that that always seem to occur in the timeline.
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With this fast forward a little bit we have UFO
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sightings again being frequently talked about in the media, and
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then the massive wildfires in Hawaii once again, and then
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talk of another pandemic or potential pandemic situation. It's a
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repeated pattern. See, and I could demonstrate that that's just
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three times now that we've seen within the past couple
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of years where we could recognize this same pattern. That's
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part of this. That's the synchronistic metadata. It's pattern recognition. Now,
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what exactly does all this point to? And mean, I
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don't have the exact answer to that yet, but I'm
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exploring and trying to figure this stuff out, putting the
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dots together to see. But you could see what patterns
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begin to emerge on the other side of that when
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you recognize, hey, this is very similar to that event
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that happened, then well what happened next? And see, this
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is the problem we have in the modern era because
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our attention spans have been whittled down so much, we
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don't really remember exactly what happened next because it's constant,
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one thing after another after another in the news cycle
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that we see. And this is one of their favorite
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programming motifs, is the news media so They use this
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to influence the human mind and a lot of subf
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ways that maybe we don't recognize. So after, of course
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these fires, and just leading up to these fires, they
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pulled off an operation on New Year's Day here in America.
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A couple different things happening simultaneously. Of course, we have
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the terror incident in New Orleans where the guy literally
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had an ISIS flag in the back of his truck.
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That seems to me to be a little problematic. I mean, seriously,
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why would you how come nobody caught this, you know
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what I mean? The guy's driving around with an ISIS
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flag on his truck. Doesn't make a bit of sense.
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And then simultaneously in Las Vegas in front of the
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Trump Hotel, who had the Tesla cyber truck explode into
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a fiery blaze fire once again kind of preordaining what
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was about to come in California. So you see all
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of these patterns emerge all the time. So this is
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telling me a lot of things. Because this occurred on
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New Year's Day, This is another important factor. They like
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to use different cycles of time to present different types
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of motifs into the greater zeitgeist. Well, they use this
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as a means of conveying the programming language that they
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intend to use for the year twenty twenty five, and
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twenty twenty five is going to be a big year.
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I think that's been predicted many times in the past.
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It's been outlined in a lot of white papers and documents.
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They have big plans for this year. So they're trying
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to kickstart all of this. And of course the fire
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motif is nothing new to these people, these ones that
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control things, these dark occultists in this world. They consider
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themselves to be the philosophers of fire. They're the builders,
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They're the ones that get it done. It's not just
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a Granger commercial. This is what they believe of themselves.
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So what they're attempting to do is they're they want
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to kickstart something really fast here. And this is part
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of the alchemical allegory of burning something down in order
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to rebuild it, the phoenix rising from its ashes. And
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when you look at what's going on in Los Angeles
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and you look back to the year twenty twenty and
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you look at a document which is talking about Los
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Angeles Smart City by twenty twenty eight, just in time
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for the Olympic Games, you begin to realize the dots
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are connecting in a lot of ways. It happened in
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just the right timeframe that they needed it to. And
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could you call it a coincidence if you really want
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you could. I don't have enough faith to be a
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coincidence theorist. But that's beside the point. All of these
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things seem to always align in these ways that seem
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disparate and disconnected from one another, but yet it always
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seems to lead to some greater portion of the pre
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planned agenda which puts all these things together. So this
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is what I'm talking about. When you see synchronistic metadata
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out there in the greater zeitgeist, the greater information field,
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you could understand they're connecting the dots. So we have
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this association with fire, the phoenix, the rebirth idea, the
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building of their new world order. We have, of course,
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the inauguration of Donald Trump coming up as the new Caesar,
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if you want to go there with that too. And
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this is actually openly talking about expansion. Think about that
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empire expansion, taking Greenland and Panama and renaming the Gulf
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of Mexico, which has been the Gulf of Mexico for
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as long as I could remember, probably long before I
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was around, think about this. So you're talking about some
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world changing things that they have pre planned here for
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twenty twenty five, and people are eating it up. And
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that's what I just don't get. No matter how many
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times they're shown the disingenuous nature of some of these people,
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particularly the political class, they still are looking at this
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figure and thinking somehow things are going to change or
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get better. When he's instituting all the policies that the
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One worlders want, isn't he that's what he intends to do.
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He is appointing people that want this same position, And
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yet people are okay with that, at least those on
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the political writer are okay with that. And I don't understand.
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But that's just me just pontificating there. I'll shut up now.
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Well, I have separated myself from politics a very long
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time ago. I had no emotional attachment to any of it.
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I see all the theatrics behind it, but to a
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point where it's extremely obvious to me and others with
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eyes to see that there's level of theatrics, a high
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level of theatrics in politics, especially with what we've seen
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this last election cycle. Theological implications behind everything. It was
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like a battle between Jesus versus Satan. And the reaction
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from the global power structure after Trump was in office
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is seems like everyone just fell into line. The the
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previous time Trump was elected, we had all the drama,
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we had all the pushback. Now everybody's praising him and
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falling right into line with every agenda. And the people
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that support Trump, most of them aren't even questioning any
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of it. But the implications behind everything he is doing
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is pointing to exactly what you just said, just further
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solidifying this coming new world order.
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Exactly. And that's what I find like truly problematic is
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people have just bought into this left right paradigm all
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the more. And it's disturbing because you could point out
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all the political corruption to them and they realize, yeah,
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they acknowledge their's political corruption, but their guy's going to
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fix it, and like he had four years to fix it,
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he didn't. And all of this it's all theatrics. Like
508
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you said, it's all political theater. And I try pointing
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this out to people all the time. Likely this was
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all planned back at the Builderberg meeting in twenty seventeen,
511
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the building meeting, which was attended by the way in Chantilly,
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Virginia by well our coming Vice President JD. Vance. He
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was there. He was present at that Builderberg meeting, and
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00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:15.000
then he arose into prominence rather quickly thereafter, much like
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a young President Obama, same kind of thing going on.
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He was also groomed and selected by Builderberg. Prior to
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his election to presidency. He was a junior first term senator,
518
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:29.559
much like JD. Vance is now, and all of a
519
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:33.079
sudden he was on the presidential ticket and won the presidency. Well,
520
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it's kind of the same thing going on, except they
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had to have the Trump figurehead involved. So in my estimation,
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I think this was all planned at that Builderberg twenty
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seventeen meeting. They told Trump, Hey, here's what we're gonna do.
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You're gonna get one term, and then we're going to
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put another guy in. We're going to put the Democrats
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in to roll out some of this agenda that we
527
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:54.720
want rolled out that you won't get away with if
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you're in there because you have too much media scrutiny. Yes, then,
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and then you'll go back in for another four years
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to seal the deal and get it done. And Donald
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Trump's one of them, Like, don't let him fool you.
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He's not gonna drain the swamp. He is the swamp.
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00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:12.279
And I try telling people this all the time. And
534
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:16.160
there's some very well meaning evangelical Christians and stuff like
535
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that that seem to think that this is God's chosen
536
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:23.519
guy's it's such a psychological operation and a work, and
537
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:26.400
they don't see through it. And they truly and firmly
538
00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:29.799
believe this no matter how much evidence you point them out.
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With the guy, it just doesn't matter. And it's the
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00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:35.359
same thing on the other side, the Democrat side is
541
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the same way. It's it's all just a psychological operation.
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00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:41.599
They know how to work the room. Let's put it
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this way. They know how to divide people along ideological
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lines and keep them separated and fighting over things of
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00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:50.759
no real importance. Does it matter if it's a left
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boot or a right boot that's standing on your head
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for eternity?
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Right?
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Think about that.
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Do you think that they're apparent long game plan is
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coming to fruition as they wanted to, or could there
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be a layer of this synchronistic natural reality that is
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00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:17.960
pushing against it and maybe causing problems with their role
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out of this new world order.
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I think they're getting a lot of resistance and pushback
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they weren't expecting. I think things aren't going their way.
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I see them panicking and trying to push forward agendas
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and really rush things along. Whereas they used to really
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00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:36.960
play the long game, the slow game with a lot
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of this, now they're panicking and they're doubling down, and
561
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they're throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks
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to get things done. They're behind schedule. I mean, they
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have all of these different things planned for their Agenda
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twenty thirty used to be Agenda twenty one. You remember
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that they wanted all this done and in place by
566
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the year two thousand. Didn't happen that way, and now
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they have Agenda twenty thirty. Things aren't lining up they
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would like with that either. So they're trying to pivot
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and they're trying to just double down on some of
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the things they've gotten away with, and they're desperately trying
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to get things in place. All the game piece is
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in place, because it is a grand game to them
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to get what they want out of all of this,
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and they're failing, and they don't know what to do
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with themselves, and they've really slipped in recent years. They
576
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:27.360
have a lot of really ineffectual middle management running things
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right now. They're a victim of their own policies. Let's
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00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:34.320
put it that way. All their DEI diversity, equity, inclusivity
579
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:36.920
policies and stuff like that have come back to bite
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them in the butt, let's be honest about it. So
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a lot of these things they've done, they've really relegated
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off to a lot of this ineffectual middle management, and
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they haven't been able to achieve the things that they
584
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wanted with this because they get some pushback from people. Now,
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one of the big tests for all of this was
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the whole COVID scandemic situation they rolled out on us,
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and by their own numbers, they say sixty nine percent
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of the world's population got at least one COVID shot. Now,
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that's a massive number, but that does not meet the
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level of the parietal split that they need in society
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in order to completely steamroll everybody and get the things
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they want done. That's the twenty eighty split. So they
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need at least eighty percent of the people to go
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along with what they want in order for them to
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be effectual at doing so, so they're short eleven percent
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and that's why they're panicking and doubling down. So even
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though that sounds like a huge number, they still have
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a massive amount of people thirty one percent that did
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not comply the first time with them, and now that
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number has gone way up of those that are going
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to be non compliant because they're seeing the actual harms
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of this rolling out in the public view, in the
603
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:54.719
mainstream press and all over the place. So now that
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that's going on and people distrust the system, they're going
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to have a lot more problems. That's why they're trying
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to throw everything at the wall to see what sticks.
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So they've they've gone the route. We have these mystery
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drones UFO phenomenon. They're trying to leverage that against people.
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We have these wildfires, and we have natural disasters, and
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we have climate change and all of these boogeyman things
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going on. And now terrorism has seen a resurgence after disappearing.
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I guess the terrorists we're afraid of COVID for that
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number of years or whatever, but now it's all good again.
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So we have all of that re emerging and they're
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just seeing what sticks they got to get people in
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00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:38.440
this fear mindset. And now we have this rollout of
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the bird flu and everything else too. So it's a mess,
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00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:44.079
and the economy is a mess because of all of this,
619
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and the cost of every skyrocketed inflation in like ridiculous
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amounts in this modern time.
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Now earlier you touched on the end game for them,
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their ultimate desire to be mortal possible, have their consciousness
623
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:07.719
uploaded to some sort of computer mainframe somehow however, they
624
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:10.679
want to achieve that immortality. But what do you think
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that that ultimately means for the rest of humanity? Where
626
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:16.760
do they want this to go?
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00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:23.039
Well, essentially, there's a couple basic premises that we could
628
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:28.199
lay down here. First and foremost, the elite, these dark
629
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ocultas who run things, these people who see themselves as
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00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:35.039
the new gods of this place, the Olympians they sometimes
631
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:42.400
call themselves. They make it certain in no ambiguous terms
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00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:45.480
that they have no place for the profane in their
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00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:48.280
new age. And that's you and I, that's anybody that's
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00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:51.760
not been initiated into one of their secret brotherhoods or
635
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:54.559
occult fraternities. They view you as not even having a
636
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:58.000
soul unless you've been initiated. And so they think they
637
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:01.079
do us a favor by prommeo gearing some of these large,
638
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:06.519
massive ritual violent events upon us, these traumatic events, much
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00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:08.960
like nine to eleven was one, and many of these
640
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:11.239
other events. They think they're doing you a favor. This
641
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:15.360
is giving you a type of an initiation process and
642
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:21.519
giving you doing you the favor of unlocking your potential,
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00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:24.599
your ability to recognize that you have a soul and
644
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:28.400
latch onto that and maybe come to the initiation phase
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00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:30.760
that they need you to come to in order to
646
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:35.519
be bought into their ideology. So they think they're doing
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00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:37.599
you a favor first and foremost with all of that,
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00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:42.199
and they think that that's the only way for you
649
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:44.719
to proceed into the next age, because they have no
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00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:48.840
place for the profane there, and so the things they
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00:38:48.880 --> 00:38:51.119
do to act on this affect us in that way
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00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:55.360
first and foremost. Now secondly, with that premise being laid down,
653
00:38:56.559 --> 00:39:01.480
the other side of this is if you look at
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the notion of transhumanism, this philosophy of transhumanism that's not
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intended for everyone, it benefits, and the advancements of the
656
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:15.840
transhumanist technologies are not intended for everyone. This is only
657
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:20.800
for the elite class to be the beneficiaries of these technologies.
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00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:24.960
So what does this mean exactly? Well, I'll tell you
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what it means when you look at transhumanism. A pro
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transhumanist YouTube channel out there called Transhumania. They have like
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a four to five hour long documentary on their YouTube channel,
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and I believe this is about twenty minutes into the
663
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:42.360
documentary if memory serves me correctly. If you look and
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you watch this documentary, they will tell you what transhumanism
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is in no uncertain terms. They call it, quote unquote
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00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:55.480
transhumanism is eugenics without coercion. That's what they say. Now
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00:39:55.519 --> 00:40:00.000
that's a pro transhumanist YouTube channel. These are pro transhumanists
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who are telling you and know un certain terms what
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this is. So what does this look like? This looks like, well,
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you see, my relative died, but before they died, they
671
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uploaded their consciousness to the machine and now it acts
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just like them. It has me thoroughly convinced that it
673
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is them living on in the computer. So people will
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line up to have their consciousness uploaded in this way,
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and in the process it will destroy their physical form
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and it will create this cheap synthetic knockoff of their personality,
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their existing memories, all of this stuff. But is that
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really the ontological self in there? Is that the I
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am that resides in the person. Is it the animus,
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the spirit that's actually residing there? No, it's not. This
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is the world of shells, as I alluded to earlier,
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and you could look up the Kabbalistic term the world
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of shells if you want more information on that. This
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is the dead entity. This is the rain of dead matter,
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as Michael Hoffman calls it. This is the spirit of Ariman,
686
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as Rudolph Steiner describes it. It's the hyper materialist paradigm.
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It's the physical shell absence of spirit. Now, this absence
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of spirit, while this leaves a gaping, wide open void
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in the process here in which some type of spirit
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00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:22.400
is going to manifest, But it's not going to be
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a human spirit, let's put it that way. But at
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any rate, this is essentially what they're trying to do.
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This is a mass culling event. That's what transhumanism is
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for the commoners, the common class. You're not going to
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be the beneficiaries of those transhumanist technologies. They just want
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to actually document and keep all of your memories and
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your personality on file in a computer to be duplicated
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by a machine as best as possible, and have access
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to all of that information minus the spirit, minus the
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actual personhood being there, the individuated soul present therein it's
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a type of collectivism, and it's a type of a
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mass calling event. Like I said, that's what transhumanism is.
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It's eugenics without coercion. So they intend to get rid
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of the bulk of humanity in this way, but still
705
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keep all of the information present in the collective minds
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of everyone. So this is a very nefarious type of
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agenda when you see it from that vantage.
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Point, when it comes to the powers that you mentioned
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above humanity that are in control. As we become collectively
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more aware and starting to question levels of our reality,
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there has become a reemergence of some gnostic understandings and possibilities,
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theories that our reality is completely controlled by these nefarious
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parasitic entities that are feeding off of us in certain ways.
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To what extent does that go? Do do they answer
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00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:05.480
to source? Are they an infiltration in our reality? Let's
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explore that a little bit.
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All right, sounds good. So these are commonly referred to
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in the Gnostic teachings as the arkans. And there are
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many people who would have you believe that we do
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live on a prison planet, that this is indeed a
721
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matrix of sorts and artificial reality, a simulation all of
722
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this kind of thing. These all have their roots back
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in these Gnostic principles. In Gnosticism, there are cult belief systems.
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This is nothing new. Remember the Bible advises us, there's
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nothing new under the sun. All of these ideas have
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been ever present here. It's just with our modern ways
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of thinking, in the technologies we're familiar with, we could
728
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reference this in that type of a way, so we
729
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could understand it a little better in that type of
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a way. Well, that is not the reality we live in,
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but that is the reality that these dark occultists who
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run things in the spiritual powers controlling them and guiding
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and directing them in this want us to get to.
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That's the point they want us to get to. And
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this is what's called the world of shells in the
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Kabbalistic and Hermetic traditions. So it is that notion of
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pure physicality form devoid of spirit, that's what they want here,
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because then that gives them the vehicle that they want
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in order to manifest physically here. These spiritual powers and
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entities that be that right now do not belong here
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in this natural order. They're an abomination to this natural order.
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And you could look back to the Bible in Genesis
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chapter six to talk about this a little further, with
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the fallen angels into their co mingling with the daughters
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of men and the emergence of the Nephilum. There were
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giants in the earth in those days and also after that.
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This is a direct telling of that same type of thing.
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These were not entities, not being things that belong in
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this natural creation. And this is where the problem arises,
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and this is why the Great Flood is said to
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have happened. If you look at it from the theological
752
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perspective and also from the philosophical perspective and the occult
753
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perspective of some of these people, that is what they
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seem to agree upon. That was the reason for the flood,
755
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was to eliminate this abomination from the natural order. They
756
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don't belong here. Well, they're trying to build a similar
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thing with the transhumanist notion of things. So see, essentially,
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what it boils down to is the human being in
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and of himself is the gateway between worlds. And when
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you understand that, you understand our special place here in
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this world where the gateway between worlds, between the spiritual
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and the physical here. Now, many of these spiritual entities
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they seek to manifest physically because there are certain things
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here that they find very desirable. So you have this
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notion of the walk in in paranormal studies. It's the
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same type of thing that they're looking to manifest on
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a greater level with this transhumanist notion. So that's from
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the perspective of the spiritual side of this. These dark
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spirits that want to come into physical form here and
770
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manifest here to have this experience, they want to do
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so through the use of the human form, and they
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could only do so if the human form is devoid
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of spirit. Well how does that happen. Well, that happens
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through this transhumanist ideology and philosophy. You upload your consciousness
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to the machine you physically die. That leaves the empty shell,
776
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thus the world of shells, for them to use as
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a vehicle to manifest here. And that is wherein things
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get really kind of nefarious sounding. And I reserve the
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right to be totally wrong on this stuff, by the way,
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but it seems to be the preponderance of evidence always
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indicates this, no matter where you come at it from,
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if you come at it from the scientific paradigm, the
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occult paradigm, the religious paradigm, all of this. So that
784
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seems to be in my estimation, what's going on here.
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You have these spiritual intelligences, forces entities, however you want
786
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to frame them, who want to manifest here physically, and
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they will try their utmost to do so. And this
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leads into some various other aspects of things that I
789
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don't think we're prepared to go that long today. So
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when you look at it from the perspective and the
791
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viewpoint of the spiritual side of it, but just trying
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to maintain the subject here to stay on point, the
793
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synchromistic metadata around us is intended to steer us into
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this transhumanist paradigm, to make us buy into this concept
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that this is all there is is physical reality. They
796
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want to lead you away from that connection back with
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your creator with God. They want to diverge you from
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that and keep you from that relatelationship that write relationship
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with God, because if you have that, then you realize
800
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there's more than meets the eye here. There are spiritual realms,
801
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there are spiritual concerns that we need to keep in mind,
802
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and not just the purely strictly physical things that they
803
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would like us to focus on.
804
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You're right, there's a lot more we can get into.
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I'd love to do a part two on this. Let's
806
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close on this. Where do you think they're going with
807
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the whole UFO narrative and the psychological operation that's been
808
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ongoing for years through our entertainment, through the media, everything
809
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:36.039
we've been shown about UFOs. What do you think the
810
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endgame is with this?
811
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It's hard to say for sure. They always seem to
812
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want to use the whole alien notion as a way
813
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of controlling the populace. You could go as far back
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as John Dewey giving a speech in nineteen seventeen talking
815
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about how all the world's difference is. This was later
816
00:48:56.559 --> 00:48:59.920
paraphrased by Ronald Reagan several times. All the world's differences
817
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:04.840
would simply come to nothing if there was an outside
818
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of power, or an alien invasion or something that united humanity.
819
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:13.079
And I'm paraphrasing that of course as well. But we
820
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.519
were all familiar with this notion. So this has been
821
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:19.239
out there in the zeitgeist for a long time now,
822
00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:24.960
this notion of an outside alien force that will unite humanity. Now,
823
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:27.920
what exactly does this look like on an operational principle,
824
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I don't know for sure. Are they really going to
825
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roll out the aliens and show us the physical alien
826
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beings and say they've come here from Zeta Reticula or
827
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wherever else they're gonna claim. Actually, it'll probably be serious.
828
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They're going to come from Serious. I'll make that prediction.
829
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.079
If they do do that, they'll claim they're from the
830
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:47.840
Serious star system. And there's very occult reasons for that,
831
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:50.960
but we won't go into that today. But at any rate,
832
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I don't know if they'll actually do that or if
833
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:56.280
they're going another direction with this, because something I've noticed
834
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about the whole UFO phenomenon is, for the very longest time,
835
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it's always been directly or indirectly associated with microbes or disease.
836
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You noticed that if you go and you look into it,
837
00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:14.719
think back to the orson Wells Radio broadcast or of
838
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:17.639
the World's and actually the earlier story by ht Wells
839
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:21.000
War of the World's what ultimately destroyed the Martians, Well,
840
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that was earth microbes, wasn't it disease? And this is
841
00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:28.920
something I found interesting and I actually it first hit
842
00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:32.079
me back in I think it was twenty eighteen. We
843
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:35.440
did an episode of Crow Triple seven Radio talking about
844
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:38.880
the newly formed at that time To the Stars Academy,
845
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:41.840
you know, Tom DeLange and company with all of that,
846
00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:45.519
and I was compiling the notes and seeing who he
847
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:48.119
had actually on his team, a bunch of former CIA
848
00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:51.679
guys like Blue Amazono and stuff like that. But also
849
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I found it concerning that there were at least two
850
00:50:56.760 --> 00:50:59.960
or three microbiologists on the To the Stars Academy team.
851
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:04.519
That struck me as a lot. These are studying UFO phenomena.
852
00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:07.280
So that's when I put the connection together in my
853
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:09.440
head at that point, and I even mentioned it on
854
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:13.039
air there and then oh and behold, a few short
855
00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:17.360
years later, we have the rollout of COVID after an
856
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:21.360
unprecedented release in the news media in late twenty nineteen
857
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:24.360
about the tic tac Ufo and all the disclosure that
858
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:27.360
came with this. So think about that, So once again,
859
00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:30.159
this is more of that synchronistic metadata coming into play
860
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:33.840
and this pattern recognition that I'm talking about, So maybe
861
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:35.679
it has something to do with that. And of course
862
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:38.039
they're trying to hype up this bird flu thing right now,
863
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:40.880
and they're trying to reinvent COVID, and they're trying to
864
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:45.159
reinvent all of these new different novel diseases that are
865
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:48.480
said to be out and about there to get people
866
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:50.920
in this fear mindset. So maybe they're going to pivot
867
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:53.400
with that and go that direction. I don't know. I
868
00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:56.360
don't have the answers. These are just observations I've made
869
00:51:56.920 --> 00:51:59.239
based upon the metadata I see out there in the
870
00:51:59.239 --> 00:51:59.960
greater information.
871
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:05.840
Right Well, we're definitely in interesting times to close out today,
872
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:10.480
What advice would you give people when navigating this reality,
873
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:14.320
especially when trying to find good information, when trying to
874
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:18.000
prepare for all the possibilities that could be coming.
875
00:52:18.559 --> 00:52:20.079
What would you advise people?
876
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:23.639
I would advise people, just make sure your heart's right
877
00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:26.079
with your creator, make sure you have that right relationship
878
00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:29.039
with God that'll guide you through more or less. But
879
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:32.400
it doesn't hurt to be prepared to maybe have like
880
00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:35.599
three weeks worth of food stored up. Maybe have a
881
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:40.519
little bit of goods that might help you through to
882
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:42.559
survive if you need to. If you know how to
883
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:44.960
grow your own food, great plant a little garden, do
884
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:50.159
that kind of thing. Also have tools available, tools and
885
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:53.840
supplies like that so you could build things or do whatever.
886
00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:57.239
Maybe have an alternate energy source that you could use
887
00:52:57.320 --> 00:53:01.039
for heat or for electricity if the need should arise.
888
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:04.960
Maybe own property that's a good thing to have too,
889
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:09.480
real estate that's a valuable asset. Maybe some gold and
890
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:12.519
silver reserves, things like that. Just keep that. It doesn't
891
00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:16.000
hurt to be prepared for anything because you never know,
892
00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:18.679
I mean a natural disaster or a natural disaster or
893
00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:20.719
if you put that in their quotes, might come your
894
00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:23.840
way and you never can tell. I don't think they'll
895
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:26.320
really go the route of taking down the entire power
896
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:29.199
grid at once, because that takes control firmly out of
897
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:32.079
their hands. So I don't think they would dare do that.
898
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So if they were to take down the power grid,
899
00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:36.119
it would probably be in little sections at a time.
900
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:41.320
So that's my estimation of the things here.
901
00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:44.480
So right on, Well, Wayne, this was great information. Thank
902
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you so much. Like I said, we'll definitely have to
903
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:49.320
do this again. Before you go, remind the audience where
904
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:52.760
they can find all of your content, books, podcast, all
905
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:53.400
the good stuff.
906
00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:56.679
All right, thanks again, Chris, I appreciate it. You could
907
00:53:56.719 --> 00:54:00.559
find all of my work at www dot Chemical tech
908
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:04.079
Revolution dot com and I have links over to all
909
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:06.639
the various things that I've been working on. I have
910
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:10.199
a substack called the Alchemical Beacon where you could listen
911
00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:13.000
to the podcast or read some articles and things like that.
912
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:16.840
And like I was alluding to earlier, my friend Richard
913
00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:19.559
Willet and I just launched a new podcast called synchro
914
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:22.800
Mystic that's out there on Spotify and YouTube as well.
915
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So that's out there for people to listen to if
916
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:26.280
you want to get a little bit more of a
917
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:30.159
breakdown of specifics about this synchro Mystic metadata that we
918
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put out there.
919
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Awesome, Well, thank you again, Wayne. Like I said, we'll
920
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:36.599
be doing this again. Loves to talking in the future.
921
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Until next time. Everyone, have a wonderful evening and we
922
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:45.440
will talk again tomorrow. We'll see you then. We live
923
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:49.320
in an incredible age of information. More and more we're
924
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:52.840
discovering that we've been lied to admit. Today, I want
925
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to welcome back to the show, Ryan Gable. He is
926
00:54:55.320 --> 00:55:00.000
a veteran radio personality and producer for The Secret Teachings.
927
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Broadcasts focus on the synchronicity and objective analysis of parapsychology,
928
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pop conspiracy, parapolitics, health history, the paranormal symbolism, the esoteric alchemy, magic, philosophy,
929
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:18.880
and more in the most distinct ways by finding parallels
930
00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:23.599
and patterns often overlooked. Ryan, welcome back. How you doing.
931
00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:26.320
I'm good, Chris, thank you for having.
932
00:55:26.199 --> 00:55:29.440
Me, Thanks so much for coming back on. I'm looking
933
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:31.559
forward to this. You have a presentation we're going to
934
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:34.440
be going through right now. We live in a state
935
00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:38.199
of unfortunate amnesia when it comes to our human history,
936
00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:41.960
is made worse by the current state of deception and
937
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:45.920
confusion that we're in. Our holidays are really no different.
938
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The majority of people, especially here in the United States,
939
00:55:49.840 --> 00:55:53.440
have no clue about the origins of the holidays they're celebrating.
940
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:58.519
Most of them probably don't care. Dead materialism, commercialization, and
941
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propaganda have essentially taking over our holidays like Christmas, and
942
00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:10.239
we now have mismatched aspects of different ancient practices. But
943
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today you have a presentation about the occult origins of Christmas.
944
00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:18.480
Very excited to share this information. First, for those that
945
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:21.840
may not be familiar with your previous appearances, tell us
946
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:24.400
a little bit about yourself and let the audience know
947
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:25.360
where they can find you.
948
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Well. First of all, thank you for having me on
949
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and allowing me to speak. My work, I guess is
950
00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:34.760
considered quite controversial, although I'm not really sure why that is.
951
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We are going to talk about the occult origins of
952
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Christmas tonight. But like anything I cover on my radio show,
953
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The Secret Teachings, I like to approach it from an
954
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angle that is not repetitive or almost plagiarizing or copying paste.
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A lot of people in the radio podcast world just
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00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:59.320
take whatever is popular, and I think, just repeat it
957
00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:02.239
over and over again in maybe put their opinion into it.
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I try to step away from all of that, and
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I try to watch where I get my ideas and
960
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:10.840
my thoughts from to make sure that I'm not just repetitive.
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So I try to incorporate that into my show Monday
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00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:15.280
through Friday, and I talk about a little bit of
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00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:19.559
everything from UFOs to the occult origins of Holidays, which
964
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:22.280
is a big favorite topic of mine. So that could
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00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:24.719
be Halloween, that could be Christmas, that could be Valentine's Day.
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And I like to discuss things like nutrition as well.
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00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:30.639
So I kind of bounce around all over the place.
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And whoever is nice enough and kind enough to allow
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00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:37.079
me to do my work to do my presentation, like
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00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:40.360
you and others, I really appreciate that, and thank you.
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And anybody who would like to find my show, they
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can find it Monday through Friday. Very simple, tst radio dot,
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I info or pretty much anywhere you listen to radio
974
00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:52.679
shows or podcasts, you can find the show. But all
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00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:55.199
the links are on the website tstradio dot.
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00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:59.039
Great, thank you for that. Let's pull up the presentation
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and get into this. I'm very interested in looking into
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00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:06.079
the research you've done. You've always been very thorough and
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00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:08.760
I enjoy your work. Let's get into this.
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00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:12.639
Yeah, certainly, before I bring it up, can I ask
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00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:15.679
you what exactly do you personally know or like what
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00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:19.440
do you personally see as the you know, pop culture
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00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:24.559
origins of traditions like the tree or like Santa. What
984
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:26.559
do you know and what do you think the pop
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00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:27.519
culture image is.
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00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:31.280
I'm just curious as far as what I grew up with.
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00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:35.800
I've grew up in a Catholic Christian home, and we
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00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:41.760
were taught the Christian understandings of Christmas as far as
989
00:58:41.880 --> 00:58:46.320
the modern Christian understandings. From a very young age, I
990
00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:48.719
checked out of the church. I checked out of a
991
00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:51.440
lot of that stuff, so I didn't really pay attention
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00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:57.000
to it. I really clung more to the commercialized Christmas.
993
00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:00.679
I looked forward to the family getting together, getting presence.
994
00:59:01.239 --> 00:59:05.239
Before I really started awakening and researching everything that I
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00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:08.679
look into now, Christmas didn't mean much to me at all.
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00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:13.559
It was just another excuse to get together, drink, to
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00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:18.599
forget about our normal reality for a few days, and
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00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:21.159
that's all it really was for me, and for my friends,
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00:59:21.199 --> 00:59:25.880
and for my family too. They were in that Catholic tradition,
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00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:28.679
but they weren't really devout. My mom went to church
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00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:34.079
every Sunday, but probably didn't understand the teachings at any
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00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:38.440
deep level at all. So Christmas was just at face
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00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:41.360
value for me growing up. It wasn't until a few
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00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:45.599
years ago, around twenty twelve twenty thirteen, when I started
1005
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:50.519
just looking into the alternative reality behind everything, that I
1006
00:59:50.599 --> 00:59:56.320
started to understand that all these holiday traditions are deeply misunderstood,
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00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:59.440
and like I said, it's like we have collective amnesia
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00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:01.000
about our he history in general.
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01:00:02.280 --> 01:00:04.840
Yes, for the record, I basically grew up the same way,
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01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:08.920
minus the later partying. In life, I never partied, never
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01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:11.320
have partied, but I grew up pretty much the same way,
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01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:13.880
thinking pretty much the same thing. I grew up Baptist,
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01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:18.400
and I don't really think that I thought anything of
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01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:22.639
Christmas as I grew up until I got probably about
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01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:26.039
nineteen twenty years old, and I just thought, well, this
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01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:31.559
is interesting. I read something randomly about Christmas trees and
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01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:34.760
you know, other traditions around the world, and that got
1018
01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:37.559
me curious. And then I started reading about you know,
1019
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:40.519
Santa's hat and where the hat came from and why
1020
01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:44.960
he's colored red, and I asked you. And I'm telling
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01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:48.519
people a little bit about myself because I am always
1022
01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:51.559
curious to know what other people's perceptions are, because I
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01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:55.239
don't think that anybody's perception of it is incorrect. And
1024
01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:58.119
that's part of the problem that might also make my
1025
01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:03.119
work controversial, is because I don't necessarily come at an
1026
01:01:03.159 --> 01:01:06.599
issue like this from the standard point of view of
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01:01:06.679 --> 01:01:08.800
like if you were going to listen to an occult
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01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:13.639
Origins of Christmas presentation. Normally you would hear the elements
1029
01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:18.480
of Zeitgeist, remember Zeitgeist, and you would have this almost
1030
01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:22.320
battle that goes on between the Christians who want to
1031
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:27.360
preserve the Christian Christianity elements of it, their perceptions, and
1032
01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:29.559
then the people that are like, I hate Jesus and
1033
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:31.639
I hate God and I hate Christians and they want
1034
01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:35.360
to preserve their Zeitgeist elements. Now, the Christians are right
1035
01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:38.519
about most of the things that they believe. It's just
1036
01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:41.880
they have their own interpretations and they've created their own traditions,
1037
01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:45.679
and that's okay. Usually they don't know the origins, but
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01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:48.920
very few of us know the origins about anything that
1039
01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:54.639
we do. So I'm not assaulting Christians with this presentation,
1040
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:59.800
is the point. And I'm also not bringing a Zeitgeist
1041
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:05.760
defense into this presentation because Zeitgeist is as correct and
1042
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:09.639
incorrect as Christians are. There are many things in Zeitgeist
1043
01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:13.239
as it relates to the winter solstice and certain traditions.
1044
01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:16.440
There are many things in that movie that are completely
1045
01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:20.760
fabricated and incorrect. So I want to make that very
1046
01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:24.639
clear that I do not support the Christian angle or
1047
01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:27.840
the Zeitgeist angle, but I also at the same time
1048
01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:30.800
do support the Christian angle and the Zeitgeist angle, if
1049
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:33.719
that makes any sense. There's a little bit of truth
1050
01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:36.760
in both, but there's also a lot of fabrications in both.
1051
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:38.719
I would say I actually support the Christian angle a
1052
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:42.440
little bit more because there's a purpose, I think, to
1053
01:02:42.679 --> 01:02:47.840
the traditional elements in Christian Christmas traditions. In Zeitgeist, although
1054
01:02:47.840 --> 01:02:50.519
I liked I did like the movie, it is more
1055
01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:55.360
of a refutation of Christianity, and people interpret it as
1056
01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:59.480
an attack. And even if that wasn't the intention, I'm
1057
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:02.559
certainly not approaching the subject from that angle. So I
1058
01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:05.320
just wanted to be very clear in prefacing that as
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01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:09.079
I bring up the presentation here. So let's see if
1060
01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:13.840
you can see my slides. Okay, great, So I think
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01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:16.840
it's important Chris to first of all, well Chris, your
1062
01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:20.519
name's there in the title, ask the question what is Christmas?
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01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:23.440
And ask people if they know or if they ever
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01:03:23.519 --> 01:03:28.159
thought about what the word means, because people say, keep
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01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:32.320
Christ in Christmas. And here's that battle again. The opposite
1066
01:03:32.400 --> 01:03:37.119
end of the spectrum says Christ was never in Christmas. Well, actually,
1067
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:40.519
they're both right and wrong. Again, Christ has always been
1068
01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:44.559
in Christmas, just under a different name, because Christ or
1069
01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:49.119
Christus means Christos, it's Greek, and it refers to the
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01:03:49.159 --> 01:03:53.079
anointed one. So traditionally, if you want to look at
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01:03:53.559 --> 01:03:58.599
pagan meaning, the origin of paganism is the religion of
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01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:01.760
the country people. So people that do not have a
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01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:06.360
subscription to a major religion, So people that weren't subscribed
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01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:11.000
to Islam, or people that weren't subscribed to Christianity. So
1075
01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:14.840
anybody else who believed anything else, not just nature worship
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01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:19.760
per se, but anybody who believed anything else paganists paganism. Okay,
1077
01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:24.639
to a pagan, we hear this idea that Christmas is
1078
01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:29.559
really about the resurrection of the sun. It's the winter solstice, right,
1079
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:33.639
and the winter solstice is when the sun dies and
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01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:39.000
is reborn. Okay, So to the Pagans, that would mean
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01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:43.360
that the sun is the anointed one. So to the Pagans,
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01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:48.360
they're not using the word Christos or Christ, but they
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01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:52.719
are celebrating a christ Mass. It is a gathering of
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01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:57.840
Pagans to worship, to honor, to pay their respects to
1085
01:04:58.519 --> 01:05:02.639
the sun, to the elements of nature. So again, the
1086
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:08.159
Christians are right keep Christ in Christmas, and the opposite
1087
01:05:08.239 --> 01:05:10.639
end of that spectrum are also right. Christ was never
1088
01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:12.880
in Christmas. It depends on what Christ you're talking about.
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01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:16.639
If you're talking about Jesus, Okay, the Jesus person wasn't
1090
01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:20.239
in Christmas, but Christ as the anointed One, as the Sun,
1091
01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:23.480
was in Christmas. So we should keep Christ in Christmas.
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01:05:23.559 --> 01:05:26.000
So I have no problem. I don't like Xmas personally
1093
01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:29.000
because x means unknown. We know what it is, we
1094
01:05:29.079 --> 01:05:31.039
know what Christ is, we know what the Sun is.
1095
01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:34.880
So Xmus is an atheistic assault I think on both
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01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:41.159
Christianity and Paganism. So I don't subscribe, subscribe to that
1097
01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:43.519
element of the war on Christmas. And that brings me
1098
01:05:43.639 --> 01:05:46.960
to the symbol that if you're watching the video version
1099
01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:50.360
of this, you can see it's a wreath, and you
1100
01:05:50.480 --> 01:05:54.280
probably see people put these on their doors. These wreaths
1101
01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:59.320
symbolize precisely what I'm talking about. The wreath symbolizes the
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01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:03.920
death of somebody or something. It is a symbol that
1103
01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:08.519
somebody or something has died and that the person inside
1104
01:06:08.519 --> 01:06:11.360
of the home is mourning. So if you see a
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01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:13.239
wreath on the door, I don't know if a lot
1106
01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:16.159
of people know this. I didn't know this until I
1107
01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:18.880
read a book on it, and then I reference that
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01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:21.159
other places, and then I actually talked to my friend
1109
01:06:21.159 --> 01:06:24.079
when he was alive, Jordan Maxwell, and he said, oh, yeah, yeah,
1110
01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:27.159
he said, the wreath symbolizes the death of the sun
1111
01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:30.400
or the sun s u n s o n. It
1112
01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:33.239
symbolizes the death of the anointed. So we put the
1113
01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:36.679
wreath on the door to honor the debt. And that
1114
01:06:36.679 --> 01:06:39.719
doesn't matter if it's Jesus, doesn't matter if it's the
1115
01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:42.800
Sun or you can see behind me on the video.
1116
01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:46.840
I have a lot of Japanese paintings. In Japan, the
1117
01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:53.440
most powerful deity kami spirit is Amattasu, the Sun goddess,
1118
01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:57.360
and her story is identical to this because she goes
1119
01:06:57.400 --> 01:07:02.440
into a cave for three days in creation, during and
1120
01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:05.280
after creation. But every year during this time of the year,
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01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:07.840
she goes into a cave for three days and the
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01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:11.320
other kami or spirits gathered together and they put a
1123
01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:15.719
mirror on a tree and they decorate the tree, and
1124
01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:18.719
she sees her reflection and sees how beautiful she is,
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01:07:19.079 --> 01:07:20.880
and she comes out of the cave and everybody has
1126
01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:25.719
a celebration around a decorated tree. That's in the Japanese
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01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:30.480
traditions thousands of years old. That's in the Western traditions
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01:07:30.519 --> 01:07:34.000
as well. So the Christmas tree is not just Germanic
1129
01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:39.880
in nature, it's not just European in nature. It's a universality.
1130
01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:42.039
And if you live in the desert like I do.
1131
01:07:42.159 --> 01:07:45.840
I'm in the American Southwest, we have well there's a
1132
01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:50.519
plant called Christmas cactus, but people use soaro cactuses here.
1133
01:07:50.559 --> 01:07:54.039
They'll decorate them, put Santa hats on them, put lights
1134
01:07:54.079 --> 01:07:57.360
on them. I like a Christmas souro cactus. It's kind
1135
01:07:57.360 --> 01:08:00.719
of cool. And that is a tradition that is out
1136
01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:04.079
here because we don't have, you know, trees in this
1137
01:08:04.159 --> 01:08:05.719
part of the desert all. I mean, there are trees
1138
01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:08.920
up on the mountain and Mount Lemon here. But if
1139
01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:10.639
you live in an area without any trees, you make
1140
01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:13.719
do with what you have, and you take a cactus.
1141
01:08:14.159 --> 01:08:19.000
And there's a parallel hair cris to a pumpkins and Halloween.
1142
01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:23.479
We have pumpkins in North America, but in Europe they
1143
01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:27.520
used to utilize for the Beltane festivals or for the
1144
01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:31.159
Halloween festivals. Different parts of the of the year of
1145
01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:35.479
Beltane or some hayne, they would utilize root vegetables, so
1146
01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:40.319
like turnips, potatoes and things like that. So it's the
1147
01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:42.600
same exact idea with the Christmas tree. It might be
1148
01:08:42.600 --> 01:08:44.239
a tree, it might be a cactus, but it's the
1149
01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:48.960
same purpose. It might be Cristos, the Son of God,
1150
01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:52.720
the sun, or it might be the so o in anointed.
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01:08:52.800 --> 01:08:55.960
Either way, we're dealing with the same thing. So first
1152
01:08:55.960 --> 01:08:58.680
and foremost, does that make sense? Is that clear? Does
1153
01:08:58.680 --> 01:08:59.319
that understands?
1154
01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:03.520
And anyone that's listening on the audio end, I encourage
1155
01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:06.119
to go to Rumble if you'd like to see the
1156
01:09:06.239 --> 01:09:07.760
visuals of this presentation.
1157
01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:12.199
Yes, and I would like it to be you know,
1158
01:09:12.319 --> 01:09:15.000
acceptable for audio listeners too, So that's why I'm trying
1159
01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:18.560
to give detail. And of course everybody knows what a
1160
01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:21.800
wreath is. So if you're watching the video, you can
1161
01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:26.000
see these symbols on the screen right now, if you're
1162
01:09:26.039 --> 01:09:28.319
listening on audio, what I have on the screen is
1163
01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:33.199
a Santa Claus Christmas tree, a sun, a slice of orange,
1164
01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:37.439
and a present and throughout the presentation, and this is
1165
01:09:37.479 --> 01:09:40.840
going to be a short version of the presentation, because
1166
01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:44.520
the whole presentation is about three hours long. Roughly, this
1167
01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:46.960
part of the presentation, I'm just showing you that by
1168
01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:50.039
the end of the presentation you will have an understanding
1169
01:09:50.119 --> 01:09:53.199
of what the origins of these symbols and elements are.
1170
01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:55.960
And I don't mean the standard Oh it's just a
1171
01:09:56.000 --> 01:09:59.159
pagan tree, and oh it's just a Coca Cola Santa,
1172
01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:02.840
and oh it's just to gift because it's commercialization. It's
1173
01:10:02.880 --> 01:10:05.000
actually quite the opposite of I mean, it is those things,
1174
01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:08.439
but it's quite the opposite fundamentally of all of those things.
1175
01:10:09.119 --> 01:10:13.439
So we can start with the tree. And again I
1176
01:10:13.479 --> 01:10:16.760
know that this isn't the standard talking point for Christmas,
1177
01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:20.199
so I hope that this is educational for people. This
1178
01:10:20.359 --> 01:10:23.640
is the world navel or the fountain of Life. This
1179
01:10:23.720 --> 01:10:27.840
is the symbol of Jesus crucified on the cross and
1180
01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:31.600
his blood is being collected in the chalice. This is
1181
01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:36.279
a symbol of where everything, where life, where everything flows
1182
01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:40.039
out of and where everything flows out of the tree
1183
01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:45.720
of life, the World Tree, and the Scandinavian countries. It
1184
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is the ash tree, which of course in Christianity you
1185
01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:53.840
have ash Wednesday that also comes from India because they
1186
01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:57.359
smear their body and ashes Christians put the ash bross
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on their head. Well, that comes from the burning of
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the ash tree which Odin was hanged on. And Odin
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is one of the core gods that bring us the
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tradition of Santa Claus the old man in the north
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with a white beard, with a sleigh, with a bunch
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of characters, or we we have elves that help him
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in his duties. So we have the world Tree, and
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it's from the World Tree that we get the blood
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of Christ. And what is the blood of Christ or
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in other versions, it's basically a cornucopia. It's the abundance,
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it's the blessings, it's the grace of God, it's the
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forgiveness of God. It's the blood of Christ, which is
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the life of well not just Christ, it's the life
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of us. Life is in the blood. The Bible says
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it is love. It is the world axis axis mundi.
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It is the center of creation. It's where the Omphalustone is.
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01:11:54.520 --> 01:12:00.600
It's the center of where Odin makes the the point
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01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:03.760
of the world, the world naval, it's where he establishes.
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01:12:03.800 --> 01:12:05.640
This is the center of the world in the myth,
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01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:08.600
and that's essentially what the Christmas Tree is. It's the
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01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:12.439
axis Moondy by which everything revolves around. We go around
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the Christmas tree like we do the maypole, and the
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01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:18.840
abundance provided to us by the tree, or as a tree,
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represents all of nature, these evergreen trees. Everything else dies.
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The evergreen tree signifies and symbolizes that there will be
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something left at the end of the year, and that
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01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:33.359
it will last through the winter and it will provide
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us once again with fruits and with things that we
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need to survive. So it is a symbol of the
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preservation of life and also of specific kinds of foods
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that some of them make it through the winter. Some
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01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:49.000
seeds make it through the winter. Pine cones, poppy which
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are other elements of Christmas, and other things don't. They
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01:12:51.920 --> 01:12:55.680
die temporarily. So the tree represents and reminds us that
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life will go on, and we revolve around it, kind
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01:13:00.359 --> 01:13:02.239
of like it's the sun, which is why we put
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a star at the top. It's kind of like a
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little mini solar system. And underneath the tree we get
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01:13:06.840 --> 01:13:10.279
these gifts. We get the gifts of abundance, the blessings,
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the grace, the forgiveness, the life, the love, all of
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it centered around the tree or the world navel. And
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a good symbol of that is the globus cruciger, which
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01:13:23.479 --> 01:13:27.640
is a circle or a sphere with a cross on top,
1230
01:13:28.319 --> 01:13:30.640
and it shows you the cross which is the spine
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01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:33.920
of the human or which is the tree over the
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01:13:33.960 --> 01:13:36.439
earth or in the center of the earth by which
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01:13:36.520 --> 01:13:39.720
it revolves around. As a Catholic symbol, of course, it
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01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:43.840
represents the Church's dominion over the earth. And a great
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01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:46.880
example of this you could just type in and find
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01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:50.399
the same image I'm using. Type in sunrise on Earth
1237
01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:52.880
and that's what you're looking at. You're looking at the
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01:13:52.960 --> 01:13:57.800
cross over the earth, lobis cruciger across over the sphere,
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or if you just look at like a cig image
1240
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of the Earth with the sun rising, or a real
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01:14:02.359 --> 01:14:04.880
image of the Earth with the sun rising, it's the
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01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:09.439
same concept you see on the video. Okay, so now
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01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:13.039
the idea of life. This is a very famous symbol
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01:14:13.079 --> 01:14:16.159
in Egypt. It's called the crouks on Sata. For those
1245
01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:20.399
of you who are watching the video, you can see
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that there's another symbol next to the kruksansata called a
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01:14:23.800 --> 01:14:28.840
jet TJ e T. Now, in Egypt, the jet is
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01:14:28.880 --> 01:14:33.079
the symbol of isis the crouks on sata. The ankh
1249
01:14:33.680 --> 01:14:37.960
is a symbol of Osiris. Now Isis carries the crooks
1250
01:14:38.039 --> 01:14:41.560
on sata. But that's because the goddess, the woman that
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01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:46.239
gives birth, provides us with both life and death, so
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01:14:46.279 --> 01:14:50.800
she has both elements incorporated into her. The anc symbol
1253
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is a symbol of life, so like the Christian cross,
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01:14:54.359 --> 01:14:59.359
it symbolizes resurrection. The Kruk's onsata is life like the
1255
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in video you're watching, you can go back and you
1256
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can look at here the world Naval. It's where life
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comes out of. It's the cross, It's the world Naval.
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01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:11.279
The fountain of life, that's the croux on sat to
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the jet tjet is called the knot of Isis, and
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it represents like the fountain of life. It represents her blood,
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both the blood of birth and the blood of menstruation,
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01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:27.960
which is purifying like the blood of Christ. And that
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01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:34.520
particular set of symbols represents life and death and resurrection,
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01:15:35.079 --> 01:15:39.319
a kind of trinity. And you can see to the
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01:15:39.399 --> 01:15:42.640
left in the image if you're not watching the video,
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you're looking at in the video a relief from ancient
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01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:52.159
Egypt of the sun bestowing blessings or little aunks life,
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01:15:52.199 --> 01:15:56.520
the Sun bestowing life on the pharaohs and on the
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01:15:56.560 --> 01:16:00.000
people that they are overseeing, the people that they are
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01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:04.640
in charge of. People interpret this as alien. Okay, I
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don't think it's alien. Hey, maybe it is, but I
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don't think it's alien. I think it's I mean, Egypt
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is famous, probably more than any other country for its symbolism.
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And what this image is showing us is the Sun
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bestowing life through its rays to the pharaohs, who then
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impart that to the people. That's the concept, that's the idea,
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because the ruler is an emissary of God. And so
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if they say that the God came down or the
1279
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aliens came down and granted this knowledge and wisdom to man,
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well that happens. It might be aliens. I don't know, Chris,
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but it might be aliens. But it also is a
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very basic form of symbolism, showing us that the sun
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01:16:44.560 --> 01:16:50.520
bestows life and gifts, bestows gifts to the people below
1284
01:16:50.600 --> 01:16:53.439
and then like well, like a church, it's kind of
1285
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an emissary between God and man in a sense. So
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you can see that in the video. So that might
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look like it has nothing to do with Christmas, but
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actually the Christmas elements which are universal. Whether you're on
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Japanese Islands or you're in the American Southwest, you're going
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to find the very same kinds of images, or at
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least meaning to images, even when they're very far apart,
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because they're all coming from the same place. And that
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same place is human awareness and consciousness of the natural world,
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which is where the Egyptian gods and goddess has come from. Anywhere,
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they're called the nurture nature, which is nature, and that
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is the observance of the physical world. So here are
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some quick examples of the world naval or the crucifixion
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of Christ. The crucifixion of Odin on the ash tree
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the axis moundi. Odin is also pierced in the side
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by a spear. Here is Indra, very old piction of
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Indra on the left. On the right is the crucifixion
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of Quitzequaddle from Central America, crucified on an ex cross.
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You can see Indur coming out of the chest like
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Osiris was in the chest. Here is Saint Sebastian. You
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01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:18.439
can see the church took this imagery. It wasn't just
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for Christ. It was also for the saints. Sebastian is
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01:18:21.399 --> 01:18:25.600
tied to a tree and he is pierced by arrows.
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And here on the right side you can see that
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is Prometheus being tied to a in this case a
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pole traditionally a rock, and a bird eats his organs
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out of his side, usually the liver in the myth
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So we have a very similar tradition here. And what
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drops from the blood of Christ, what drops from the
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blood of Odin, what drops from the blood of quitte Quaddle,
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what drops from the blood of Prometheus is going back
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to the world naval. It is that blood, that abundance,
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that blessing, that grace. You'll find that in the traditions
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of both classical and non classical mythology, you will find
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01:19:08.720 --> 01:19:12.800
that anytime blood drops to the ground, it usually sprouts
1320
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up some kind of flower or some kind of fruit.
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So in the story of Mithra very famous Mithras in
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Rome slaying the bull, when he slays the bull, the
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blood drops strike the ground, and out of that blood
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on the ground there springs forth flowers. And the story
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of Collie very misunderstood. Story of Khali Ali is usually
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01:19:37.880 --> 01:19:41.159
seen as this dark black goddess who wants to kill you.
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That's how Christians and others interpret it. Collie actually does
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the very opposite. Collie has to look the way that
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01:19:46.760 --> 01:19:50.079
she does because she has to fight evil. And in
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order to fight evil, she has to she can't just
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01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:57.079
be this beautiful girl that doesn't do anything. She has
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01:19:57.119 --> 01:20:01.119
to be fierce. So she fights evil with this aggressiveness
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and this nastiness to her, and she has her tongue out,
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you know the pictures of Collie with her tongue out
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because she has to lick up the blood of all
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the fallen demons. And people say, oh my god, she's
1337
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drinking blood. And I'd say, well, two things. One, I
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would take a look at Eucharist first of all. Two,
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I would observe the myth where the myth says she
1340
01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:27.000
licks up the blood to prevent the birth of future demons.
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Collie actually is trying to prevent evil from spreading. She's
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01:20:30.479 --> 01:20:33.960
not evil herself. So that thing that drops, whether it
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01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:37.560
sprouts a flower, a pomegranate, or it is the sprouting
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of demons. That is what grows forth from the blood
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01:20:41.680 --> 01:20:44.800
that drops or drips from these gods. It is the abundance,
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01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:48.760
like for example, do morning dew on the trees, on
1347
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the leaves, on the plants, anywhere you look. There's morning dew.
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In alchemy, that is considered the perspiration off of the
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head of the Grand Architect or of God. So morning
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dew is a very powerful alchemical substance. It comes directly
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01:21:04.199 --> 01:21:08.199
from the face of God. Another blessing in a Youngian
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01:21:08.279 --> 01:21:12.039
sense that falls or in a fourteen sense Charles fort
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01:21:12.279 --> 01:21:14.760
it falls from heaven. It's a blessing from heaven. So
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that's where we're getting the idea of the Christmas tree
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and the Christmas presence under the tree. And here are
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some other other examples. There's Orpheus being crucified. There are
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the different uses of the passive and active lines, crosses,
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x's swastikas, etc. And there are some other examples there
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the Templar Cross, the Maltese Cross, the Leviathan Cross, the
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01:21:45.800 --> 01:21:50.399
Labyrium of the Catholic Church, which relates to Christos or
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01:21:50.479 --> 01:21:54.319
Christ again, the anointed One. And then some swastikas or
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01:21:54.359 --> 01:22:01.119
sevastika mangy in the East. It's funny and Japan or
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I'm guessing all Buddhist countries. You find swastikas all over
1364
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the place. It's actually kind of refreshing because people are like, oh,
1365
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it's a Buddhist symbol there, it's not people. People don't
1366
01:22:10.039 --> 01:22:13.319
freak out over it. There's some other examples of the
1367
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swastika and the cross, and when that swastika turns. When
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01:22:20.119 --> 01:22:25.920
it turns, what you're getting is a wheel. And the
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01:22:25.960 --> 01:22:29.560
wheel in the sky keeps on turning like that song, right,
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wheel in the sky keeps on turning. Well, that's what
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01:22:32.319 --> 01:22:34.279
we're looking at. We're looking at a wheel in the
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sky turning. What is that wheel? It's the Sun, that's it.
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Now there's a relationship here, not part of this presentation,
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but there's a relationship here to euthology. Because if you
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were to ask somebody what's the oldest example of a
1376
01:22:49.239 --> 01:22:53.039
flying saucer, they'd probably tell you roswell or something that's
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01:22:53.079 --> 01:22:57.000
in the eupho mythology. I've never heard anybody say the
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oldest flying saucer is the solar sun. It is a
1379
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flying solar disk, which you'll find in Mesopotamia and in Africa,
1380
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is a winged disc because the Sun flies through the
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air raw. One of the personifications of the Sun has
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a solar barge and the barge rises and falls every day.
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In fact, the whole story of Roswell, the archetype of Roswell,
1384
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is the story of the sun rising and falling. You
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01:23:29.439 --> 01:23:34.239
have a solar disk come out of nowhere, fly across
1386
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the sky, and then in the evening crash and you'd
1387
01:23:38.439 --> 01:23:42.479
have to go retrieve the sun and preserve it in
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these symbols, like with the wreath, to make sure that
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there is a preservation of the body of Christ in
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the tomb, so that tomorrow or three days later if
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it's the winter solstice, the sun can rise again. So
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this isn't just this is like Christmas uphology. I think
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it's really it's the story of Roswell essentially, but it's
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within the symbolism of Christmas as well. And so you
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01:24:09.199 --> 01:24:11.079
can see on the screen here there is the wheel.
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If you don't know what these things are, you just
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type them in and confirm it. The wheel or the
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chariot of Krishna. Krishna has a will, Krishna is Christos.
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There's the Greek will of Christ spelled ic ht ys.
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And that image I can zoom in here. That image
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01:24:32.720 --> 01:24:37.600
if you count, it has six seven, eight, eight different spokes. Well,
1402
01:24:37.760 --> 01:24:40.199
what are those eight spokes. Those eight spokes are the
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01:24:40.279 --> 01:24:46.880
eight points of the year, Yule, embulk Ulstara, Beltane, Letha, Lucna,
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01:24:46.960 --> 01:24:51.399
sad Meybon, and Somhan. That's a Christian symbol. Though there's
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01:24:51.399 --> 01:24:54.079
the will of Ezekiel, there's the god of storms and
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01:24:54.119 --> 01:24:58.159
war Ah Shure equivalent to ball or Suzanu or jave
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01:24:58.920 --> 01:25:03.560
in a with wings being able to fly. I don't
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think that these images are aliens. They say, well, the
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aliens are in a little disk and they're flying through
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01:25:08.399 --> 01:25:11.239
the air. Okay. I think it makes more sense that
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this is a personification, a deification of the Sun. That's
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why there's a deity in the disk with the wings.
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I'm not saying that aliens don't exist or whatever the
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pop culture narrative is today, but it's a personification of
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01:25:25.119 --> 01:25:28.439
the Sun, which all of that Chris is important because
1416
01:25:28.439 --> 01:25:31.119
it helps us, I think, to understand the Christmas traditions,
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01:25:31.119 --> 01:25:37.680
because Christmas ultimately is a mixture of different personifications of
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everything from the Sun to nature in general, which is
1419
01:25:41.319 --> 01:25:47.039
where Santa Claus actually comes from. Santa Claus is nature personified,
1420
01:25:48.079 --> 01:25:51.680
just like Jesus, who I believe was a very real
1421
01:25:51.800 --> 01:25:56.439
person but was merged with the traditions of the Sun
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01:25:56.960 --> 01:26:01.520
being personified. So I think that that's very important element.
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One of the most interesting things to me is we
1424
01:26:04.159 --> 01:26:08.640
have the symbols, the universal symbols, which can be easily
1425
01:26:08.920 --> 01:26:16.000
recognizable as the sun. Even if certain scholars are researchers
1426
01:26:16.039 --> 01:26:19.000
believe it to be a symbol of something else, It's
1427
01:26:19.119 --> 01:26:23.479
most likely that they were interpreting things that they could
1428
01:26:23.720 --> 01:26:28.079
see for themselves. But what is really interesting is these
1429
01:26:28.159 --> 01:26:32.439
recurring stories like the Birth of Christ, the Prometheus story,
1430
01:26:32.479 --> 01:26:38.560
the Crucifixion. How these are almost fully formed stories throughout
1431
01:26:39.319 --> 01:26:43.680
different cultures throughout time. And you mentioned you do believe
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01:26:43.760 --> 01:26:47.199
that the story of Jesus is based off of a person,
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01:26:47.800 --> 01:26:51.760
but this seems to be a recurring story as well
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01:26:51.840 --> 01:26:57.239
throughout time. What are your thoughts on the mechanics behind
1435
01:26:57.319 --> 01:26:59.640
these stories and how they keep coming up.
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Well, I am not Joseph Campbell. I will say that
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01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:08.119
I'm not Joseph Campbell. I respect Joseph Campbell, and I'm
1438
01:27:08.119 --> 01:27:10.760
pretty sure I don't remember where he said this or
1439
01:27:11.399 --> 01:27:14.000
where he wrote this, but I heard somebody quote him
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01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:17.720
one time that Joseph Campbell said that he respects people
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01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:22.600
that can choose a religion because there's so much in
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01:27:22.640 --> 01:27:26.319
the world that it's humbling, and that if you can
1443
01:27:26.319 --> 01:27:29.920
actually pick one and stick with it, then, in all sincerity,
1444
01:27:30.279 --> 01:27:32.960
good for you. I admire that because he's like, I
1445
01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:36.039
can't pick, and that's how I feel. I feel like
1446
01:27:36.079 --> 01:27:39.600
I can't pick. So to answer your question, there are
1447
01:27:39.720 --> 01:27:42.199
so many things in the world. I spent three months
1448
01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:47.279
in Japan, and I'm going places seemingly randomly, and I'm
1449
01:27:47.279 --> 01:27:52.520
finding things that correlate with what I know in the West.
1450
01:27:53.119 --> 01:27:56.319
From the symbolism of owls. The symbolism of the owl
1451
01:27:56.439 --> 01:27:59.600
is identical in Japan to what we know the owl
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01:27:59.600 --> 01:28:03.359
to be in classical Greek Roman mythology and to what
1453
01:28:03.399 --> 01:28:06.479
we know the al tobe in Indian mythology. I find
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01:28:06.520 --> 01:28:10.199
the same thing with certain symbols in Japan. The reason
1455
01:28:10.319 --> 01:28:13.159
for that, again, to answer your question, is because in
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01:28:13.199 --> 01:28:15.760
my opinion, not Joseph Campbell, but I do believe that
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there's a universality to all of this, and that it
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01:28:18.880 --> 01:28:24.680
doesn't matter if you're six foot six Scandinavian giant, or
1459
01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:29.760
you're five foot five Japanese or Ayinu, or you're a
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01:28:29.840 --> 01:28:33.800
Hopie or whatever you are, you still have eyes and
1461
01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:37.000
you still see the world, and you still see the
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01:28:37.039 --> 01:28:40.119
sun move across the sky, and you still see the
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01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:42.520
changing and depending on where you live, the changing of
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01:28:42.560 --> 01:28:44.520
the well, the seasons always change no matter where you live,
1465
01:28:44.560 --> 01:28:47.319
but in a north the northern hemisphere, the seasons change
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01:28:47.399 --> 01:28:50.840
essentially the same. And so no matter where you are,
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01:28:50.920 --> 01:28:55.000
you're going to experience the natural world in a similar way.
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And so you're going to develop traditions and symbols that
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01:29:00.199 --> 01:29:02.880
are going to maybe they look different, and they might
1470
01:29:02.920 --> 01:29:06.279
seem completely contrary to one another, but they're going to
1471
01:29:06.600 --> 01:29:11.760
have the same fundamental meaning. Obviously it's not exactly the
1472
01:29:11.800 --> 01:29:15.439
same because we have different interpretations. There have been studies
1473
01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:19.479
done recently on how, for example, the Chinese, or the
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01:29:19.560 --> 01:29:23.520
Koreans or the Japanese, how they think. Not that it's
1475
01:29:23.560 --> 01:29:26.199
any better, but it's totally different than how we think
1476
01:29:26.479 --> 01:29:30.560
using languages that are derived from Latin, for example, because
1477
01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:34.319
the characters are so different. They are conceptual and ours
1478
01:29:34.319 --> 01:29:37.960
are more reductionist. And that's not a bad thing because
1479
01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:41.399
to Easterners, we in the West, we think totally different
1480
01:29:41.439 --> 01:29:44.520
than them, and that might be a good or a
1481
01:29:44.520 --> 01:29:47.800
bad thing. So we all see the world similarly, but
1482
01:29:47.920 --> 01:29:50.159
we have different ways that we look at it still,
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01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:53.359
and these are universal things, and so that's why I
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01:29:53.399 --> 01:29:56.239
think I hope that answers your question, Chris. That's why
1485
01:29:56.239 --> 01:29:59.399
there is a similarity between all of this because we
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01:29:59.439 --> 01:30:01.680
all have we're all human, we all have two eyes,
1487
01:30:01.720 --> 01:30:04.840
and we're all experiencing the world in a very similar way,
1488
01:30:04.960 --> 01:30:08.920
especially when you take out of the equation all of
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01:30:08.960 --> 01:30:12.000
the modern things that we have, when you take out
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01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:16.079
of the equation, the things that keep us entertained in
1491
01:30:16.159 --> 01:30:18.039
the modern way. It's not that it's a bad thing,
1492
01:30:18.600 --> 01:30:20.840
but if you are living in a world where you
1493
01:30:21.039 --> 01:30:24.840
are forced to interact with nature, you're forced to interact
1494
01:30:24.920 --> 01:30:28.479
with the sky, you're forced to interact with the gods, then,
1495
01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:32.319
and you don't have any of these modern technologies whatsoever,
1496
01:30:32.760 --> 01:30:35.439
then you probably are going to be more acquainted with them.
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01:30:35.560 --> 01:30:38.439
And that's probably going to be It's not just like
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01:30:38.479 --> 01:30:40.800
an interest like it is for me or for you
1499
01:30:40.920 --> 01:30:45.640
or for the audience. It's something you live every single day.
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01:30:45.720 --> 01:30:48.159
It's a part of who you are. And there's still
1501
01:30:48.199 --> 01:30:52.199
an example of that actually in places like Japan, where
1502
01:30:52.199 --> 01:30:56.239
they have Shinto that lives next to Buddhism and Shinto
1503
01:30:56.399 --> 01:30:59.720
meaning Shindao the Way of the Gods. Shinto isn't a
1504
01:30:59.760 --> 01:31:03.359
really religion in Japan, and the Japanese don't consider themselves religious.
1505
01:31:03.439 --> 01:31:09.560
But the shrine worship and the nature honoring is just
1506
01:31:09.640 --> 01:31:12.439
a part of life. You get off work, you go
1507
01:31:12.479 --> 01:31:16.000
to the shrine. You have an every New year. Most
1508
01:31:16.359 --> 01:31:18.199
on New Year they go to the shrine to pay
1509
01:31:18.239 --> 01:31:21.840
their respects, or to bring their children to the shrine
1510
01:31:21.880 --> 01:31:25.359
when they're born or at different intervals. It's just baked
1511
01:31:25.399 --> 01:31:28.920
into life. It's not like a secondary thought or something
1512
01:31:28.960 --> 01:31:33.039
you consider yourself. I'm a Christian, nobody really says I'm
1513
01:31:33.079 --> 01:31:37.000
a Shintoist, because it's baked into life. So hope does
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01:31:37.000 --> 01:31:37.760
that answer your question?
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01:31:37.760 --> 01:31:42.079
Because the only thing that I puzzle over is the
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01:31:42.119 --> 01:31:46.880
story of Christ, because I can easily see that it's symbolic,
1517
01:31:47.000 --> 01:31:51.600
it's telling the story of a procession or a lot
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01:31:51.600 --> 01:31:54.960
of these stories can be easily compared to what we
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01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:56.960
see in the sky, as you were just saying, in
1520
01:31:57.039 --> 01:32:00.199
nature in the sky. But the story of Christ has
1521
01:32:00.239 --> 01:32:05.399
been personified in ways where it's still very much argued
1522
01:32:05.880 --> 01:32:10.119
whether or not there was an actual person there. And
1523
01:32:10.359 --> 01:32:13.479
this is one of those stories. To me, that's a
1524
01:32:13.479 --> 01:32:17.800
little different than just the symbolism that we can compare
1525
01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:20.520
to what we see in nature in the sky. This
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01:32:20.600 --> 01:32:24.880
seems to have a personification to it that's a little
1527
01:32:24.880 --> 01:32:28.680
different in a sense that many many believe that this
1528
01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:33.560
was a person, and it seems to be the more
1529
01:32:33.600 --> 01:32:37.199
predominant view that there was a person that existed at
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01:32:37.239 --> 01:32:40.359
one time. And the question is was it just one
1531
01:32:40.399 --> 01:32:43.439
time that he existed? This story is so ancient and
1532
01:32:43.520 --> 01:32:47.279
so powerful that it just repeats itself, or is this
1533
01:32:47.399 --> 01:32:52.800
a repeating story where this actual event continues to recur
1534
01:32:52.920 --> 01:32:55.479
throughout history. It's very interesting to me.
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01:32:56.159 --> 01:32:59.600
See, I see, I'm sorry, I see what you Yeah,
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01:32:59.800 --> 01:33:00.960
I'm sorry. Oh that's all good.
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01:33:01.560 --> 01:33:02.680
You did answer the first part.
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01:33:04.600 --> 01:33:06.399
So I think that there's a very simple answer to
1539
01:33:06.439 --> 01:33:10.399
that question, and the answer is we have to look
1540
01:33:10.439 --> 01:33:15.199
outside of Christian communities because if you go and you
1541
01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:18.600
speak to a Muslim, there are two point or well
1542
01:33:18.720 --> 01:33:23.279
roughly two plus billion Muslims on planet Earth, and that's
1543
01:33:23.520 --> 01:33:25.760
what is that. That's like a quarter of the planet.
1544
01:33:26.079 --> 01:33:31.680
And Muslims do not believe that there's any significance outside
1545
01:33:31.720 --> 01:33:34.079
of the fact that Jesus was a prophet and a
1546
01:33:34.199 --> 01:33:39.119
very important prophet that the Muslims really really respect and
1547
01:33:39.239 --> 01:33:43.000
really really don't think the things that Western media tells
1548
01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:47.640
you they think. On average, Muslims respect Jesus immensely. He
1549
01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:49.520
was the prophet that, in fact, if it wouldn't be
1550
01:33:49.560 --> 01:33:52.159
for Jesus, there wouldn't be Islam. But if you ask
1551
01:33:52.199 --> 01:33:55.720
a Muslim, they do not believe that there's any divine
1552
01:33:55.760 --> 01:33:58.600
significance to the Jesus story. Now I'm not a Muslim,
1553
01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:02.039
but I agree with Muslims. My point is, if you
1554
01:34:02.079 --> 01:34:06.199
step outside of the Christian sphere, out of the globist crusinger,
1555
01:34:07.199 --> 01:34:10.039
then you'll see that no, not everybody believes this. In fact,
1556
01:34:10.199 --> 01:34:13.960
very few people believe that there's any divine significance to
1557
01:34:14.079 --> 01:34:18.039
the Jesus story. It's just within the Christian world, which
1558
01:34:18.039 --> 01:34:21.760
is about two point four billion people where that is
1559
01:34:21.800 --> 01:34:23.560
the case. If you step outside of that two point
1560
01:34:23.560 --> 01:34:26.720
four billion Christians, you're going to get what five point
1561
01:34:27.039 --> 01:34:31.319
four roughly billion other people. And I don't know those
1562
01:34:31.359 --> 01:34:33.920
five point something other billion people, but I do know
1563
01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:37.560
that in the Muslim world they don't see divine significance.
1564
01:34:38.079 --> 01:34:40.119
And in most of the rest of that five billion
1565
01:34:40.159 --> 01:34:44.239
people likewise, they don't see divine significance. So, in my opinion,
1566
01:34:45.279 --> 01:34:47.600
I think your question not that it's wrong, it's coming,
1567
01:34:47.640 --> 01:34:49.600
but it's coming from a Christian background, which is how
1568
01:34:49.640 --> 01:34:52.479
I grew up. And I've thought the exact same question, Chris,
1569
01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:54.800
and that's the answer that I've come to to answer
1570
01:34:54.840 --> 01:34:57.560
it myself. I think if you step outside the globist crusinger,
1571
01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:00.479
then you'll find that that's not really a con sideration
1572
01:35:00.640 --> 01:35:05.039
for others, but it is. It is universal. And the
1573
01:35:05.079 --> 01:35:07.000
other part of your question is like why does this
1574
01:35:07.079 --> 01:35:10.920
keep popping up? Because it is a again, a universal
1575
01:35:11.039 --> 01:35:15.079
archetype and it has been. The Romans tied it to
1576
01:35:16.359 --> 01:35:20.760
the pagan traditions, which is what everybody always screams, all
1577
01:35:20.760 --> 01:35:26.359
its Christians paganism, like yes and no Christians came into Rome,
1578
01:35:27.199 --> 01:35:30.119
which depending on what period of the Roman Empire. Because
1579
01:35:30.159 --> 01:35:36.119
it was so vast, Rome was very accepting of other religions.
1580
01:35:36.560 --> 01:35:41.560
When everybody else persecuted Jews, the Romans said, Jews can
1581
01:35:41.600 --> 01:35:45.560
have their communities. Jews are not going to be forced
1582
01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:49.159
to fight because of their religious beliefs. The Romans were
1583
01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:54.600
extremely accommodating to religions. Manly Hall wrote, I just learned
1584
01:35:54.640 --> 01:35:56.399
this from Manly Hall when I read his book How
1585
01:35:56.399 --> 01:35:59.760
to Understand Your Bible, and he a historical fact. The
1586
01:36:00.079 --> 01:36:04.039
Christians came into Rome and tried to force the Romans
1587
01:36:04.079 --> 01:36:09.479
to convert to Christianity and set everybody else here is wrong,
1588
01:36:09.600 --> 01:36:12.039
We're right, convert or we're We're going to burn Rome,
1589
01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:15.920
and the Romans didn't tolerate that. But the point is
1590
01:36:16.079 --> 01:36:22.439
later Constantine saw that in Christianity there was a rabid, violent,
1591
01:36:23.159 --> 01:36:28.640
useful cult that could be used to control people. And
1592
01:36:28.680 --> 01:36:32.720
as an Augustus, as a caesar, Constantine says, I will
1593
01:36:32.720 --> 01:36:36.920
convert to Christianity and all of this momentum I will
1594
01:36:37.079 --> 01:36:40.600
take into the empire and use it to crush my enemies.
1595
01:36:41.319 --> 01:36:45.359
That's why Christianity became what it is, because an Augustus
1596
01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:48.600
saw it as an opportunity to take power. Even though
1597
01:36:48.640 --> 01:36:54.560
reportedly Constantine and other emperors too still worship Mithras up
1598
01:36:54.600 --> 01:36:57.880
until their time of death. So it was a co
1599
01:36:57.960 --> 01:37:01.680
opting of a religious cult, which in and of itself,
1600
01:37:01.800 --> 01:37:04.680
that which became the Catholic Church in of itself, wasn't
1601
01:37:04.720 --> 01:37:07.279
really even based on the teachings of Jesus in the
1602
01:37:07.279 --> 01:37:07.880
first place.
1603
01:37:08.520 --> 01:37:13.039
So hopefully, hopefully that means yes, and I saw. I
1604
01:37:13.039 --> 01:37:15.239
didn't mean to derail the presentation too much.
1605
01:37:17.159 --> 01:37:19.399
No, no, no. I think it's a great question, because
1606
01:37:19.520 --> 01:37:23.199
several questions, because it is important to obtain the context
1607
01:37:23.359 --> 01:37:26.319
to this, because you're you're very You're right, Chris. It's
1608
01:37:26.359 --> 01:37:28.359
a thing that pops up again and again and again.
1609
01:37:28.920 --> 01:37:31.720
And I'm also going to say that I don't think
1610
01:37:31.760 --> 01:37:35.039
that that's the full complete answer. It's a very superficial
1611
01:37:35.079 --> 01:37:37.560
answer because we don't have I mean, first of all,
1612
01:37:37.560 --> 01:37:39.239
I don't have all the answers, and second of all,
1613
01:37:39.279 --> 01:37:42.399
we don't have, you know, five months to sit here
1614
01:37:42.399 --> 01:37:46.159
and discuss the complex details of history, and I don't
1615
01:37:46.159 --> 01:37:50.800
even know. So there's so much about I mean, we
1616
01:37:50.840 --> 01:37:53.920
could sit here literally and talk about this particular slide
1617
01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:56.880
for two hours. There's so much here just this one slide.
1618
01:37:56.920 --> 01:38:02.760
So it's a no big deal. I had this other
1619
01:38:02.840 --> 01:38:05.279
slide up. You can see in this slide these are
1620
01:38:05.319 --> 01:38:08.439
called wheels of life, and you can see there's an
1621
01:38:08.439 --> 01:38:10.880
Indian wheel of life. You can type these into the
1622
01:38:10.880 --> 01:38:14.239
computer if you're listening on audio. Indian wheel of life,
1623
01:38:14.880 --> 01:38:18.199
Tibetan wheel of life, Japanese wheel of life, and then
1624
01:38:18.479 --> 01:38:23.039
the classic image of Jesus supporting the world, God supporting
1625
01:38:23.039 --> 01:38:28.119
the world. These are all images that represent a force,
1626
01:38:28.199 --> 01:38:31.600
a power with the palm of the or with the
1627
01:38:31.640 --> 01:38:33.720
world and the palm of their hand in a sense,
1628
01:38:34.600 --> 01:38:37.720
turning the wheel. There is an architect turning the wheel,
1629
01:38:38.279 --> 01:38:41.600
again very much associated with our Christmas tradition. And this
1630
01:38:41.800 --> 01:38:45.359
is the wheel you referenced astrology. Well to the left
1631
01:38:45.399 --> 01:38:48.439
here you can see the zodiac wheel and you can
1632
01:38:48.439 --> 01:38:51.960
see the sun placed on the cross, and on the
1633
01:38:52.039 --> 01:38:54.600
right side you can see the wheel of the year.
1634
01:38:54.720 --> 01:38:57.600
This is the witch's calendar. So I named all of
1635
01:38:57.600 --> 01:39:01.000
these days before Embolko, star Re, Belta one, Leitha, Luna, Sad,
1636
01:39:01.039 --> 01:39:05.640
Maybonne and Yule and so Yule and Litha which is
1637
01:39:05.680 --> 01:39:10.039
the winter and summer solstice, and maybond and Ostada, which
1638
01:39:10.039 --> 01:39:14.560
are the fallen spring equinoxes forms across. And then you
1639
01:39:14.600 --> 01:39:18.840
get the other sabots in bolk, Lucnasad, som Han, Beltane,
1640
01:39:19.079 --> 01:39:21.279
and that creates an x. And when you put them
1641
01:39:21.319 --> 01:39:24.520
together you get the eight points of the year, the
1642
01:39:24.560 --> 01:39:28.119
major and minor sabots, which again are the Greek wheel
1643
01:39:28.199 --> 01:39:34.119
of Jesus. The eight spokes. And also if you look
1644
01:39:34.159 --> 01:39:36.640
at the Viking Compass down below on your screen, you
1645
01:39:36.680 --> 01:39:40.640
could type into the Internet Viking Compass or beg this
1646
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year v E G V I s I R. It
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01:39:43.840 --> 01:39:49.880
brings up this eight spoked Viking amulet which was used
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01:39:49.880 --> 01:39:54.720
to protect from the elements by invoking the powers of
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01:39:54.800 --> 01:39:58.079
all the forces of nature to protect you from the freezing,
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01:39:58.159 --> 01:40:01.159
freaking cold. And so you would have that as a
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01:40:01.199 --> 01:40:04.560
protective symbol. And the black sun is an important part
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01:40:04.560 --> 01:40:08.039
of this. Oh my god, it's a Nazi symbol. The
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01:40:08.119 --> 01:40:12.640
black sun is a symbol because when the sun crashes
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01:40:12.760 --> 01:40:17.800
like that Roswell story and it becomes dark out well,
1655
01:40:18.359 --> 01:40:20.600
especially if it's dark right now where you're listening to this,
1656
01:40:21.279 --> 01:40:23.720
the sun you can't see the sun. There might be
1657
01:40:23.720 --> 01:40:27.079
a little light if there's reflection from the moon. Most
1658
01:40:27.079 --> 01:40:30.159
of our lights are artificial. But the black sun is
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01:40:30.199 --> 01:40:34.920
an important symbol because it represents Jesus in the underworld.
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01:40:35.359 --> 01:40:38.840
It represents Almatetasu in the underworld. The sun is gone,
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01:40:38.880 --> 01:40:40.680
it's a black son. You can't see it. You can
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01:40:40.720 --> 01:40:43.800
maybe see the reflections like Plato's cave, but it's gone,
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01:40:44.199 --> 01:40:46.479
and then it will resurrect again. So the black sun
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01:40:46.640 --> 01:40:52.479
with its twelve zodiacal lines is a symbol of Jesus
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01:40:53.920 --> 01:41:01.399
in essence, just another more nature based verse of explaining
1666
01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:03.079
what you see there to the left, which is the
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01:41:03.159 --> 01:41:07.279
zodiac will and the cross with the sun, and that's
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01:41:08.359 --> 01:41:10.239
the will of the year. And you can see the
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01:41:10.239 --> 01:41:14.159
different elements. As the wheel turns, we get these different
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01:41:14.199 --> 01:41:19.880
traditions that have become modern holidays. Okay, now this is
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01:41:19.880 --> 01:41:23.880
why this particular slide is why I brought up Zeitgeist,
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01:41:24.079 --> 01:41:27.479
because I know because one I used to be this person.
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01:41:27.520 --> 01:41:31.199
And two I know the conversation like the back of
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01:41:31.279 --> 01:41:33.920
my hand, because I've had it for fifteen years. You know,
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01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:36.079
like every week of my life for fifteen years, I
1676
01:41:36.079 --> 01:41:39.000
hear about this kind of stuff. I'm sure you have two. Well,
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01:41:39.159 --> 01:41:41.359
it's just the symbol of you know, the sun on
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01:41:41.399 --> 01:41:44.760
the cross and the zodiac whill are the disciples of
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01:41:44.840 --> 01:41:48.239
Christ and it's birth, death and resurrection and all that.
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01:41:49.039 --> 01:41:53.560
And again that is correct. The cross is the axis MOUNDI,
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01:41:54.159 --> 01:41:55.920
the Sun is the Son of God s O and
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01:41:55.960 --> 01:41:59.680
of God. The cycle is the Trinity, the twelve followers
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01:41:59.680 --> 01:42:04.279
of Christ to the Zodiac disciples. Resurrection is of course
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01:42:04.319 --> 01:42:07.479
after birth, life, and death. The four quadrants or the
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01:42:07.520 --> 01:42:10.800
four elements of the four seasons or the four evangelicals,
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01:42:11.800 --> 01:42:17.960
and the twelve nights of Christmas are of course the
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01:42:18.560 --> 01:42:21.800
twelve signs of the zodiac or the twelve followers. Again,
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01:42:22.359 --> 01:42:25.760
so all of that, I'm going to actually move that
1689
01:42:25.800 --> 01:42:29.840
on my little slide here. All of that can be
1690
01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:33.000
taken from either, well, this image of the will of
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01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:36.000
the year or the zodiac wheel here to the left,
1692
01:42:36.039 --> 01:42:40.039
which means animal wheel. And then yes, people point out, well,
1693
01:42:40.039 --> 01:42:42.880
it's the age of Pisces, the fish, that's Jesus. The
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01:42:42.920 --> 01:42:46.000
fishers have been and that is accurate, but it's also
1695
01:42:46.079 --> 01:42:48.079
only part of the story because if you go back
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01:42:48.119 --> 01:42:53.239
into India you'll find that the fish symbolism is prevalent,
1697
01:42:53.960 --> 01:43:00.840
immensely prevalent throughout Hinduism as well. Look at the cross
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01:43:00.880 --> 01:43:03.880
as it relates to man. So it's not just Jesus.
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01:43:04.800 --> 01:43:07.279
And I think this also answers your question again, Chris.
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01:43:07.520 --> 01:43:10.159
It's not just Jesus that's crucified and pops up over
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01:43:10.159 --> 01:43:13.680
and over again. All of us are that symbol. We're
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01:43:13.720 --> 01:43:17.720
all connected to the elements air, water, earth, fire, We're
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01:43:17.760 --> 01:43:21.720
all the spirit above those elements the spirit above the
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01:43:23.399 --> 01:43:28.319
cubicle world, and in Egypt a symbol of the underworld.
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01:43:28.760 --> 01:43:30.279
You can see that in the middle of the screen
1706
01:43:30.359 --> 01:43:34.760
called doot is basically a pentagram, and it represents the
1707
01:43:34.880 --> 01:43:38.960
five different points, which is why a pentagram is a
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01:43:39.119 --> 01:43:43.239
symbol of protection and defense, that is, unless you invert it,
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01:43:43.920 --> 01:43:49.760
because it pulls the spirit upward. It pulls all the
1710
01:43:49.800 --> 01:43:54.680
things about humans upward. That's a good thing. And it
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01:43:54.760 --> 01:43:59.199
calls on the directional elements for protection. So you can
1712
01:43:59.199 --> 01:44:02.000
see that, and that is why man is the microcosm
1713
01:44:02.520 --> 01:44:07.239
of the macrocosmic world. There's the macrocosm, there's the microcosm
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01:44:07.279 --> 01:44:10.520
of man. So we are within the larger, and the
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01:44:10.600 --> 01:44:14.520
larger is within and without us. These are some other
1716
01:44:14.600 --> 01:44:19.600
examples of that. Osiris in the coffin, just like Jesus
1717
01:44:19.680 --> 01:44:23.439
in the cave, or Moses in the basket, or the
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01:44:23.479 --> 01:44:26.960
list of stories goes on and on and on. Hey,
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01:44:27.039 --> 01:44:30.359
this is an image of Amattasu. Very famous image, probably
1720
01:44:30.359 --> 01:44:33.479
one of the most famous, I would say famous paintings
1721
01:44:33.479 --> 01:44:37.560
of any kind of Japanese myth. This is from eighteen sixty.
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01:44:38.239 --> 01:44:43.760
Udugawa Puni Sada painted this and this is Amaateetasu coming
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01:44:43.760 --> 01:44:46.239
out of the cave, and you can see there to
1724
01:44:46.279 --> 01:44:48.560
the left. If you kind of zoom, I could zoom
1725
01:44:48.560 --> 01:44:51.560
in for you a little bit here kind of see
1726
01:44:51.600 --> 01:44:56.039
this tree over here, this tree, and there's the mirror,
1727
01:44:57.479 --> 01:45:01.439
and there's these decorations on the tree. That's our Christmas tree.
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01:45:02.680 --> 01:45:05.399
That's a very I mean, I mean, okay, so it
1729
01:45:05.520 --> 01:45:10.159
comes post Germanic traditions. People think, oh, well, the Germans
1730
01:45:10.239 --> 01:45:13.159
must have brought this to or the Dutch brought it
1731
01:45:13.199 --> 01:45:18.239
to Japan or something. I'm sure there's and that's you're right.
1732
01:45:18.279 --> 01:45:21.439
A lot of traditions have been brought to different parts
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01:45:21.439 --> 01:45:25.479
of the world, like for example today, I honestly didn't
1734
01:45:25.520 --> 01:45:28.199
know this till last night, but in the nineteen seventies
1735
01:45:29.000 --> 01:45:34.159
KFC did this big advertising campaign in Japan and now
1736
01:45:34.960 --> 01:45:40.960
every year for Christmas, Japanese EKFC. So that's a tradition.
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01:45:41.560 --> 01:45:42.880
I didn't know that. That's like one of the biggest
1738
01:45:42.880 --> 01:45:49.159
traditions in JAPANFC. So that things can be imported and
1739
01:45:49.279 --> 01:45:53.319
things can be adopted. Usually if something is adopted, it's
1740
01:45:53.359 --> 01:45:58.000
not necessarily because some barbarians came in and beat people
1741
01:45:58.159 --> 01:46:04.000
skulls in you usually because what's being imported already conforms
1742
01:46:04.560 --> 01:46:10.199
to what is being practiced. So in Shintoism, Chris which
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01:46:10.239 --> 01:46:14.720
I am, if I had to classify myself, I would
1744
01:46:14.760 --> 01:46:20.039
prefer the Shinto label. So in Shintoism, nature is like
1745
01:46:20.119 --> 01:46:23.800
the most important element. And so almost all of the
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01:46:23.880 --> 01:46:29.199
shrines in Japan, almost all of them are within areas
1747
01:46:29.279 --> 01:46:34.640
of very thick nature. The shrine of Amatosu, the most
1748
01:46:35.199 --> 01:46:41.359
important shrine of all East had Jingu, is in very
1749
01:46:41.640 --> 01:46:48.399
very dense woods over streams, and it's just immaculate and beautiful.
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01:46:49.199 --> 01:46:54.199
And so if you're importing these ideas, for if that
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01:46:54.279 --> 01:46:56.279
were to be the case, if you're importing these ideas
1752
01:46:56.319 --> 01:46:58.560
and saying, well, the Japanese only have that tradition because
1753
01:46:58.600 --> 01:47:02.159
of the Germans or something, well, if that were the case,
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01:47:02.439 --> 01:47:03.920
it would also be the case that they would have
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01:47:03.920 --> 01:47:07.239
adopted that as well, because well, they already not worshiped
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01:47:07.239 --> 01:47:10.439
the tree, but they saw the tree as a representative
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01:47:11.079 --> 01:47:16.560
of the divine. So again a universality that even if imported,
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01:47:16.640 --> 01:47:19.159
it would have been accepted and not had to have
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01:47:19.159 --> 01:47:22.640
been forced because it was already practiced by the people
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01:47:23.279 --> 01:47:28.039
of those islands. In part, so you can see though
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01:47:28.079 --> 01:47:32.079
without disputed. There's the Christmas tree with the mirror on it.
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01:47:32.119 --> 01:47:33.840
A little hard to see with the sun rays, but
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01:47:33.920 --> 01:47:36.039
there's a Christmas tree with the mirror and all these
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01:47:36.359 --> 01:47:41.399
decorations on it, right, I find that to be fascinating. Yeah,
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01:47:43.479 --> 01:47:46.279
this is in Japan too. This is an example of
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01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:52.680
this is called Ishibutai. And again I know people might think, well,
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01:47:52.680 --> 01:47:55.800
why are you talking about Japan. It's Christmas time. Well,
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01:47:55.800 --> 01:47:57.760
I'm just showing you an example of a very far
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01:47:57.800 --> 01:48:00.359
off land where they practice the same things do and
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01:48:00.399 --> 01:48:02.720
it's not because we crammed it down their throats. It's
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because every human saw the world the same way. There are,
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01:48:06.279 --> 01:48:09.640
actually I don't know the exact number. I think there
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01:48:09.640 --> 01:48:13.920
are like thousands of mounds in Japan, the same kinds
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01:48:13.920 --> 01:48:18.000
of mounds Chris that we call the mound builder civilization
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01:48:18.239 --> 01:48:22.199
in North America. Japan, on the Japanese Islands, there are
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01:48:22.239 --> 01:48:26.039
mounds that are so old they don't even know what
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01:48:26.079 --> 01:48:30.000
they were used for. So you find and what we
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01:48:30.079 --> 01:48:32.359
do know is that when I went to Ishibutai, there's
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01:48:32.560 --> 01:48:35.960
a sarcophagus there and if they have an English translation
1780
01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:39.000
of the sign, and it's really funny. It says that
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01:48:39.079 --> 01:48:42.359
there was not a sarcophagus found in this what you're
1782
01:48:42.399 --> 01:48:45.359
looking at this image of this underground little crypt. There
1783
01:48:45.479 --> 01:48:49.359
was not a sarcophagus found, but we think that if
1784
01:48:49.359 --> 01:48:51.000
one were to be found, this is what it would
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01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:54.079
look like. Which is funny because they're claiming that this site,
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01:48:54.159 --> 01:48:56.880
which is really only that they claim was used for
1787
01:48:56.960 --> 01:49:02.319
burying a chieftain or the leader of a clan. For
1788
01:49:02.399 --> 01:49:05.520
a site that's only what really a couple of one hundred
1789
01:49:05.600 --> 01:49:09.319
years old, they claimed that it was rated and they
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01:49:09.359 --> 01:49:12.520
took this massive sarcophagus out of it. That is the
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01:49:12.720 --> 01:49:17.359
That is literally the same argument that Egyptologists used for
1792
01:49:17.439 --> 01:49:20.640
the Great Pyramid of Giza. It's literally the same argument
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01:49:20.880 --> 01:49:25.159
that archaeologists use in South and Central America. Well, hm,
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01:49:25.600 --> 01:49:28.680
we didn't find anything, but if we did find it,
1795
01:49:28.720 --> 01:49:32.000
we think this is what it would look like. This
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01:49:32.039 --> 01:49:37.520
is universal again universal wow, and what is that megalithic
1797
01:49:37.560 --> 01:49:41.000
blocks of megalithic building. There's a you can say that's
1798
01:49:41.079 --> 01:49:44.600
me obviously, I'm six foot one, so this is big.
1799
01:49:45.479 --> 01:49:49.800
And it is again Ama Tetasu in the cave being resurrected.
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01:49:50.359 --> 01:49:53.239
In my assessment, it has something to do even if
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01:49:53.239 --> 01:49:56.319
it was co opted later, or if it was, if
1802
01:49:56.319 --> 01:49:58.159
it was co opted later by people that wanted to
1803
01:49:58.239 --> 01:50:01.479
use it as a tomb, it was probably at one
1804
01:50:01.479 --> 01:50:06.319
point or another used for the mystery school initiations death
1805
01:50:06.800 --> 01:50:14.079
and resurrection while living ishibutaiufun and there's esa jingu you
1806
01:50:14.119 --> 01:50:17.239
can see or jinga. You can see the fact if
1807
01:50:17.279 --> 01:50:18.800
you zoom in and I have an image of it
1808
01:50:18.840 --> 01:50:22.640
on the next slide. Actually it no, maybe I don't.
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01:50:22.720 --> 01:50:24.840
I think it's later. If you zoom in here on
1810
01:50:24.880 --> 01:50:28.520
this image, or you could type this in say I
1811
01:50:28.920 --> 01:50:33.159
E j I n g u, and you can see
1812
01:50:33.439 --> 01:50:37.800
you see that white there above the heads of the tourists.
1813
01:50:38.079 --> 01:50:41.319
That's a veil. It's the exact same kind of veil
1814
01:50:41.359 --> 01:50:43.880
that Isis wears in Egypt. And you want to hear
1815
01:50:43.920 --> 01:50:48.840
something really crazy, isa I s E. If you put
1816
01:50:48.880 --> 01:50:54.079
an a where the E is isa isa isa is
1817
01:50:54.199 --> 01:50:57.880
Arabic for Jesus interesting, and you want to hear something
1818
01:50:57.920 --> 01:51:03.119
even crazier I z e. You replace the S with
1819
01:51:03.199 --> 01:51:05.520
a Z or the S with a Z in the
1820
01:51:05.520 --> 01:51:10.119
E with an asa. Similar pronunciation. Is where we get
1821
01:51:10.119 --> 01:51:16.039
the Giza plateau, which is the womb of Isis with
1822
01:51:16.159 --> 01:51:18.800
the veil, which is the same veil in front of
1823
01:51:18.800 --> 01:51:25.000
the Isa Jingu shrine is isa Isa Maybe a coincidence,
1824
01:51:25.079 --> 01:51:29.079
but the relationship between the womb and the resurrection on
1825
01:51:29.159 --> 01:51:33.239
the Giza Plateau and Isa in Arabic meaning Jesus, and
1826
01:51:33.279 --> 01:51:36.840
then the literally the shrine with the veil, the white
1827
01:51:36.920 --> 01:51:41.880
veil of the bride in Japan thousands of miles away,
1828
01:51:42.760 --> 01:51:46.720
is a striking, striking thing to me, and it all
1829
01:51:46.920 --> 01:51:52.560
relates to Christmas, so we can enter part two of
1830
01:51:52.640 --> 01:51:53.800
the Christmas discussion.
1831
01:51:54.199 --> 01:51:59.479
The simplest explanation to me is that possibly sometime in
1832
01:51:59.560 --> 01:52:05.159
our ancient past, there was a global civilization, a global
1833
01:52:05.239 --> 01:52:11.720
understanding of how to construct megalithic structures of certain belief systems,
1834
01:52:12.359 --> 01:52:17.000
how to be harmonious with nature. It may be possible
1835
01:52:17.079 --> 01:52:23.520
that this was a universally practiced belief system that was
1836
01:52:23.560 --> 01:52:25.119
across the planet at one time.
1837
01:52:27.319 --> 01:52:31.399
I've considered that too. I don't really have a dogma
1838
01:52:31.479 --> 01:52:34.000
in that fight, but that's a very I think, probably
1839
01:52:34.119 --> 01:52:38.479
common response I've had myself to finding out that all
1840
01:52:38.520 --> 01:52:42.880
of this is very closely related. I wonder what listeners think.
1841
01:52:43.239 --> 01:52:46.920
I think that's probably the easiest assessment, and I think
1842
01:52:46.920 --> 01:52:49.880
it's just as valid as you know, just kind of
1843
01:52:49.920 --> 01:52:53.880
assuming that people would have the same views because we're
1844
01:52:53.920 --> 01:52:57.439
all human and we were all experiencing water and trees
1845
01:52:57.479 --> 01:53:00.880
and rocks and dirt and wind and storms and coming
1846
01:53:00.960 --> 01:53:04.319
up with these personified concepts and then they do blend
1847
01:53:04.359 --> 01:53:08.239
together later whatever the case is. It's a good point.
1848
01:53:08.680 --> 01:53:11.760
You know, we'll probably really never know the answer to that,
1849
01:53:12.479 --> 01:53:14.600
but yeah, it does seem like there is a not
1850
01:53:14.640 --> 01:53:18.159
just a universality within the symbolism, but a universality within
1851
01:53:18.199 --> 01:53:22.880
the origin of it, perhaps too, being related to some
1852
01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:29.119
kind of global, connected, interconnected society, even if it's not
1853
01:53:30.359 --> 01:53:33.159
some like Golden Age utopia like we think. It could
1854
01:53:33.159 --> 01:53:36.439
have just been that people could certainly travel more in
1855
01:53:36.520 --> 01:53:38.399
ancient times than we give them credit for, and it
1856
01:53:38.479 --> 01:53:44.560
could have had something to do with that as well. Okay,
1857
01:53:44.600 --> 01:53:49.880
so now this is probably the real meat or the
1858
01:53:49.920 --> 01:53:53.159
tofu for people listening to what they thought they might
1859
01:53:53.199 --> 01:53:56.800
hear with an occult origins of Christmas. And that is
1860
01:53:57.279 --> 01:53:59.960
and we can keep this very simple. That is, look
1861
01:54:00.000 --> 01:54:04.079
looking at the end of the year and we say
1862
01:54:04.560 --> 01:54:08.760
happy holidays. It's almost robotic. People say it kind of robotic, like, oh,
1863
01:54:08.800 --> 01:54:11.840
I have happy Holidays. Happy. It's like a ritual, and
1864
01:54:11.880 --> 01:54:15.520
it's like an incantation, Happy Holidays, Happy Holidays. Happy. I
1865
01:54:15.560 --> 01:54:17.399
know you don't mean that. I know you're just saying
1866
01:54:17.399 --> 01:54:19.159
that because what everybody else says, you don't have to
1867
01:54:19.199 --> 01:54:23.039
say it's okay. Well, where does all this come from? Holidays?
1868
01:54:24.039 --> 01:54:26.359
It comes from the Old English. It means holy days
1869
01:54:27.439 --> 01:54:30.279
and the holy days. Something holy is something that is revered.
1870
01:54:32.079 --> 01:54:36.000
We revere these days when we revere all days, because
1871
01:54:36.239 --> 01:54:39.119
they are an expression. What happens on these days is
1872
01:54:39.119 --> 01:54:42.479
an expression of the divine. And so if you read
1873
01:54:42.479 --> 01:54:50.399
the Bible, or if you're familiar with end times what
1874
01:54:50.439 --> 01:54:55.439
people call revelations predictions things like that, you'll know about
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armageddon and the apocalypse. And these are really scary words.
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I just watched a South Park last night where Cartman
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was preaching about he was condemning everybody to hell and
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healing people on stage, and the parents came up and said, hey,
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stop what they tell me to, like, stop stop damning
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people or something, or stop stop preaching the apocalypse. So
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this is the simplest thing in the world, Chris, Because
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all you have to do in twenty twenty four is
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use a dictionary, and yes, words change over time, but
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you can find the etymological origin of words and what
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they mean. Okay, Armageddon and this should alleviate all the
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fears people have if you're objective about it. Armageddon, all
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it means is the last battle between good and evil?
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What is good light? What is evil darkness? We're done.
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That's it in the conversation. You can apply that to
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real world events because from our perspective as Americans, and
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and then break it down more a perspective, from a
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democratic perspective. From a republican country X is the bad guy,
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We're the good guy Country X. For that other country,
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US being country X for example, we might be the
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bad guy, they're the good guy. World leaders have recently
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said that this group of people over here that we're
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bombing are the children of darkness. We are the children
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of light. Literally said that. So, and that's actually in
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the region of the world where Armageddon is supposed to
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take place. So armageddon has one meaning. It's the last
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battle and is the battle between good and evil. Now,
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this is something that we experience, yes, in political things,
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but it's something we experience every day. Good and evil.
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Should I continue to drink as much as I do.
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Should I continue to eat as much as I do?
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Should I continue to do these drugs? Should I continue
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to do X? We're battling, We're struggling. That's something that
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happens all the time. And so good and evil have
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been personified. They've been personified as angels and demons, and
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they've been personified as Santa Claus and his lovely helper
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ruprict Or. Many know them as crump Us. Right. The apocalypse,
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same thing, very simple. Apocalypse comes from the Greek. It
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literally translates to uncover. That's it. And what do we uncover?
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We uncover the veil or lift the veil of AMATETUSU
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or Isis. So there's a clear on the video image
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of the veil lifting the veil. Behind that is the
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central shrine of Amatetus, of the sun goddess rolling away
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the stone or the big rock. And there is Isis
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behind a red veil. And for discerning listeners and people
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watching the video, if you look close at that image
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of Isis with the red veil, she has grapes wine blood,
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and she has wheat bread body on her breasts, and
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she is like Amatetsu a representative of nature, personification of nature,
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lifting the veil. That's it. We lift the velthy the
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end of the year, we learn the secrets of nature,
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and there's a transition of power between the Holly and
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Oak kings. One rules the world for half the year,
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the other rules the world for the other half of
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the year. You're watching the video, you can read this
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quote from the Witch's Bible, which is not an evil book.
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It's just a book about nature, and they describe what
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the Holly King and the Oak King are in the myth,
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and for time's sake, all jump through this. In essence,
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Santa is Nature personified. Nature gives us life and death,
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reward and punishment, pleasure and pain, abundance, blessings, grace and forgiveness,
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gifts from the divine like the blood spilling out of
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Jesus in that depiction of the World Fountain or the
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World Naval a fountain of life. And so during this
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time of the year, the veil lifts and we get
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the four horses. Well, we get another exchange of power
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between the Oak and the Holly King, and between the horses,
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the red horse, the black horse, the Pale horse, and
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the white horse. This is another thing that if you
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are objective about it, you will no longer be afraid
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of the four horses, because it's very simple. They are,
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among many other things, they are personifications of the four
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parts of the year, and it's very sin to see
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when you look at the pale horse death. Chloros that's
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the Greek name for the horse. They never taught me
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that in Bible school. Chloros. What is chloros, well, it
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originally chlorophyll. The word comes from the French. It's chlorophyll.
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That's what gives plants the green. That's what gives plants
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that distinct color that they have. And when the sun
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dissipates and the plants don't get as much sun and
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it starts to get cold out, what happens. They lose
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the color and they fall, which is why we call
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it fall autumn. And when that happens, that's a sign
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of the end times. That's a sign of the end
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of the year, the fall of man. But we will
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be resurrected because the white horse ridden by Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad, etc.
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And also a very important symbol in Shintoism. In Japan too,
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there's a lot of horses at shrines because they used
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to be donated. They're called Emma. Emma. White horses ride
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and provide us with victory over darkness, and then the
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red horse rides and provides us with victory in the
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war against evil. And then eventually the red horse fails
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and we have the black horse of famine. During the
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harvest season, if we don't get enough which is where
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tithing comes from, we don't store enough food, we might
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die because we don't have enough to eat. And that's
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where you get the four horses from. And so in essence, yeah,
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it's really fascinating. And for the record, I don't want
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to sound like I'm completely authoritative on this, because everybody's
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perspective not that it's right, it's valid in the sense
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that you can provide a perspective that nobody else can,
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and you might see something that nobody else has seen before.
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Because I never learned and Chris anything about the four horses.
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Nobody taught me this. I realize this not because I'm smart,
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but just because I spend my whole life looking at it.
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A lot of this other stuff I did learn from
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other people like Joseph Campbell or Carl Jung or Manly P.
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Hall or my friend Jordan Maxwell, et cetera. But stuff
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like this, the horses I learned, I learned that myself.
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So you, as an individual and I'm nobody special, You
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as an individual can find things that maybe others have missed.
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And it's a valid point. So, in essence, Santa Claus
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is all the following. He is the wild man, the
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man of the woods, the green man, old man, Winter Father,
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Christmas Center, Klaus, Saint Nicholas, Saint Nicholas, Nicholas of Scion,
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Sank s A n k T sink Nicholas in the Netherlands, Belgium,
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Germany and Austria. He is nature personified. Nicholas of Myra.
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Saint Nicholas, the fourth century Christian saint and Greek bisho
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who lived in modern day Turkey. He performed miracles. He
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was known as Nicolas the wonder Worker. He also gave
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gifts secretly to people. So Santa comes at night secretly,
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and he left coins and shoes, i e. Stockings. Santa
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Claus is father, old man, father time, crampis rupric old nick.
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He's all of these things. And what is the Santa
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Claus Santa Claus the clause, Well, it's the naughtier nice list.
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It's the contractual obligation. It's the candy or coal, and
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who gives us coal in traditions elves. Elves give us
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coal and it turns into gold in the traditions the
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fairy lore. I learned that from Jacques Pallet, and then
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I read other books on fairies and I found other
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correlations that fairies give us a lot more than just
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that fairies and el It's like Halloween trick or tree
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mischief or candy. Would you like the trick, well, you're
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going to get it if you don't want it unless
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you give us the candy. It's a threat the claws,
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which I believe is French. Also like chlorophyll, where the
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word comes from. It's a contractual stipulation. Are you going
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to be good this year? Children? Or are you going
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to be bad? Would you like Santa to bring you
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a gift? Or would you like ruprict to beat you
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with a stick, which is what rupric does, Well, he
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smacks in you hand. So what does old man nature bring?
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Old man nature brings us? And that's an example on
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the screen of Santa Claus before he was in the
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Red and White Santa used to be dressed in green, brown,
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and sometimes blue, but usually green and brown because that's
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the color of a tree. Santa Claus is the tree essentially,
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as a matter of fact, if you look at the
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tree and then you associate it with what everybody knows
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as saturnalia, what is Saturn known as the lord of
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the rings tree rings denochronology. So Santa is the tree.
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Osiris was in a pillar. That's the tree. So the
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Old Man brings us nuts and seeds and fruits. There's
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the orange, which the orange I showed you earlier is
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a very traditional fruit that children would be given. And
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the orange, cut a slice of it. What does that
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look like? It looks like the sun. So the fruit
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of the orange is the microcosm of the macrocosmic sun.
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It is in a correspondence with the sun. So, for example,
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if you wanted to worship the sun, cut a slice
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of orange, offer it up to the sun. Or if
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you want to obtain the power of the sun, eat
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an orange. That's magic. The Old Man is the evergreen
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and evergreens opposed to the sidious plants. Evergreens like the
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fur and pine and pine trees, holly and mistletoe as well.
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They're ever there, or you could say, if you're looking
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at the video, they are ever present. Right, I'm going
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to add that to my presentation. Actually, they're ever present.
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They're always there. They're always a gift from nature. They're
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there for you to make sure that you have everything
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you need. That's what nature does, that's what nature gives
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us in her bounty, so green and brown. Santa Claus,
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Father Odin, Father Vodon, old Nick. We'll talk about this
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very very quickly. Father Odin lives at the North Pole.
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He has a white beard. He rides an eight legged
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horse named slate Near, derived from Old Norse to mean
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slippy or sliding, reminding us of Santa's eight reindeer and sleigh,
2052
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since a sled is used for sliding. Odin is also
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the one who brings us the center of the world,
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like in the first couple of images I showed you,
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Father Vodon. This is really interesting. Vodon is kind of
2056
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like Odin. People would argue over, especially Scandinavian Norse scholars,
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people that love those myths would probably be able to
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describe Odin and Votan and who they are better than I.
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But in essence they are the same, but they are
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separate at the same time. So there's quite a bit
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of debate about what these characters are, but they're in
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essence they are the same. Nick was a name given
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to Vodon as a holly king figure. During this time
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of the year, Vodon became known as Nick. Does that
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sound familiar? Nick? Who's Nick? The old man named Nick
2066
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Old Nick Old Saint Nick Votan was a ghostly rider
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who led the ghostly army in the storm during the
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twelve days around New Year's Day. Those are the twel
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days of Christmas. They have pre Christmas twelve days and
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post Christmas twelve days. The pre Christmas twelve days are
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known as the raw nights because they are so raw
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and freaking cold and dry and dark and wicked, and
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you hear storms and thunder and lightning, and those are
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the ghostly riders riding through the air and their sleighs,
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bringing well both gifts and punishments. Father Vodon is an
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embodiment of this myth, called Rubisol, a spirit from the
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mountains between historic Bohemia and Cilicia. A keen to the
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wild man of the woods. This character is a great
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hunter and is pictured smoking a pipe like Father Christmas,
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and that would mean that as a wild man of
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the woods, a great hunter, they are like Osiris nimrod
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Herne the hunter. And if you look at the image
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in the video here, those of you who are just listening,
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think about Orion's belt Oriyan the hunter with the arrow
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and the bow, and he has a companion, Kindness Major,
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which is the companion of Osiris Anubis in the underworld,
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which is a reflection of that above. So here's old Nick,
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Old Nick. And this is another thing I just I
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just learned this like this week, Old Nick, or I
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didn't learn it. I just realized it this week, which
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is why everybody's you know, perspective is valid because someone
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might point out, oh my god, did you think about this, Well,
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I didn't think about the fact that Old Nick is
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totally black fur, all black. That's how elves are depicted,
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all black, sometimes silhouetted, but all black. He steals children.
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Elves steal children. That's what a changelinge is. Elves give coal.
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Old Nick gives coal because you've been bad. Old Nick
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personifies cold, dark and black in essence evil Or if
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you've seen SpongeBob with the dirty bubble evil. So yeah,
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he personifies evil and he teaches you a lesson. It's
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a punishment, it's a lesson. You should be good, you
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should obey your parents, you should follow the Ten Commandments.
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This is what I don't understand about people getting upset
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about Crampis or are they get getting upset about ruprict
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or something. It's like, it's the opposite of evil. Crampis
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is telling you follow the Ten Commandments. So when you
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get upset at Crampis and he's an evil, demonic creature,
2108
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you're saying, don't follow the Ten Commandments. That's how the
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02:10:36.880 --> 02:10:41.920
devil tricks these Christians into rejecting morality. It is an evil,
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wicked thing. Crampis is actually a good guy, just don't
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do bad thing. So here's Belschnickel. You might remember Dwight
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from the Office. Oh yeah, dressed up. Yeah, which is
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cool because that means I went to film school. Didn't
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do anything with it, but I went to film school,
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and you know, I always kind of humorously would argue
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with people like you can learn something from TV like
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most of you. I learned about bell Schnickel from the Office,
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and I learned how to spell bananas from that song
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bananas b A N A n as. You can't learn
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something from the trash of Hollywood. So bell Snickel, otherwise
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02:11:26.920 --> 02:11:33.439
known as Chris Kinkle, sounds like Chris Crinkle. I even thought,
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did I spell that right? And then I went back
2123
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and double checked, and that's how you spell it. It's
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Chris Kinkle. Chris Kinkle. So he's a German character, and
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02:11:44.520 --> 02:11:48.560
he appears to children before Christmas, asking them have you behaved?
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Have you behaved? Have you followed your penance guidelines? Have
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you done what your stuffs to do? And he'll throw
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some candies and cakes and nuts on the floor and children,
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like in the marshmallow experiment, you can have a marshmallow now,
2130
02:12:00.159 --> 02:12:02.319
or you can have two if you can wait. He
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throws these things on the floor. And if children can
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control their greed and gluttony, good, they get the fruits
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and the snacks and the cakes. If they can't, he
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hits them with a stick. No candy for you. He
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smacks them with the stick. Now, this is a character
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in the next slide. Frankly, I don't know how to
2137
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correctly pronounce it. If you want to, you want to
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take a stab at it. How you pronounce that name.
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Julu Puki.
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That's what I would say too, Chris, he had ki
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Julu Puki, Okay. So he's a He's known as the
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Finish She's in Finland, the Finnish Christmas Goat or the
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Yule Goat. The goats are related to Thor, god of
2144
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storms fertility, so we're back to the ghost riders and
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02:12:50.520 --> 02:12:54.119
the storms. Thor commands a chariot pulled by goats, which
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would be the sleigh sled reindeer. Julpuki is a mixture
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of Santa Claus and these evil spirits called Nouti Puki
2148
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and they in Finland, and they these characters would go
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door to door demanding gifts from you and saying give
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us the gifts or something bad might happen, which means
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02:13:19.840 --> 02:13:23.159
it's the Halloween trick or treating. The spirits go door
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to door and say can we get some candy? And
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if you say no, they say we're going to tpee
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02:13:26.479 --> 02:13:31.119
your house. So if you merge those spirits with Santa Claus,
2155
02:13:31.159 --> 02:13:33.840
which is the good, these spirits are the bad. Together.
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Joel Puki is a mixture of both good and bad,
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02:13:37.640 --> 02:13:40.399
and he brings gifts to children via doorbells. He brings
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the doorbell ding dong, and he says, are there any
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02:13:44.039 --> 02:13:46.119
well behaved children here? And if there are, you get
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a gift. If not, oh you might be boiled alive.
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As a really is a very it's a very German
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02:13:53.600 --> 02:13:57.399
way of teaching kids how to behave do what you're
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supposed to do, or we're gonna put you in a
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boiling pot of water. Hansel and Gretel stuff. Yeah, some
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gangster parents, some gangs. It's some mafia parents. Yeah, he
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02:14:06.920 --> 02:14:10.600
has robes and drives a sleigh. Now, in the case
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02:14:10.600 --> 02:14:14.640
of Juelpuki, Jill Pokey comes way later after Santa Claus
2168
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has already developed. So here's a great example of a
2169
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character who is kind of like post development of the
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modern tradition in a sense. So he is an example
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of something that would come way after Christ, way after
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Santa Claus. He's just a mixture of a lot of
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more modern traditions and old traditions, ancient traditions like the
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new Tipuki, old and modern mixed together, and here you
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02:14:42.760 --> 02:14:46.000
get Jewel Pooky. I think that's really it's really interesting.
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And he and he comes on January thirteenth, comes after Christmas,
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and the day he comes is called Saint Canuts stay.
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It's called Nuten Paiva. I don't know if I'm pronouncing
2179
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that right, but sat Nuts Day, and it's a day
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where people would plunder their Christmas trees, take down decorations
2181
02:15:09.079 --> 02:15:11.520
and make sure that all the candies and cookies and
2182
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all of that were eaten. Interesting, here's another depiction of
2183
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in beating a child with a stick, which is what
2184
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Rupric does very quickly for time's sake. This is the
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Yule log in burn. It's burned in honor of the
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world tree. And remember earlier I said they take the
2187
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ash from the burning of the yul of the tree. Well,
2188
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we burn the tree, we burned the Yule log. We
2189
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burn the Yule tree, and we take the ashes and
2190
02:15:40.720 --> 02:15:42.720
we should smear them on our heads and our bodies.
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And that's like the ash Wednesday. There's the Yule buck,
2192
02:15:49.199 --> 02:15:53.159
which is the goat, the braided goat ebyx. And that
2193
02:15:53.319 --> 02:15:55.880
is again that takes us back to Jewel Pookie, the
2194
02:15:55.960 --> 02:16:01.000
Yule goat, and it of course relates to to Crampis,
2195
02:16:01.039 --> 02:16:04.079
because we see Satan as a goat, the black billy goat,
2196
02:16:05.319 --> 02:16:10.239
and the trying to find it. Yeah, the Yu'll goat,
2197
02:16:10.279 --> 02:16:12.039
the Christmas goat, the You'll goat. So the Yule goat
2198
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is the same thing as the Yule buck. So that's
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I mean, this is all Scandinavian and nature where this
2200
02:16:17.319 --> 02:16:20.119
stuff comes from. But you get again a more modern
2201
02:16:20.239 --> 02:16:22.560
version of the Yule goat. But then this is a
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02:16:22.600 --> 02:16:25.000
more ancient version in the form of the Yule buck.
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02:16:26.159 --> 02:16:28.600
And for anybody who's watching, you can pause now and
2204
02:16:28.640 --> 02:16:31.079
you can read about Yule where it comes from, the
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old Nordic Yule and the Anglo Saxon's called December of
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02:16:35.360 --> 02:16:39.280
mid winter Monat or the Yule Monat, which is midwinter,
2207
02:16:39.440 --> 02:16:43.040
the month of Yule. And for those of you listening,
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you could get a copy of my book Ocult Arkenna,
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02:16:47.159 --> 02:16:49.479
and I have a section. It's a gigantic book, but
2210
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I have a section on Christmas. All the stuff in
2211
02:16:52.600 --> 02:16:55.840
the book. Here's the Christmas tree again, very simple. We're
2212
02:16:55.879 --> 02:16:58.680
already learning this, We've already learned this evergreen reminder of
2213
02:16:58.760 --> 02:17:01.120
nature's bounty. It's a preserve of life. It's a symbol
2214
02:17:01.159 --> 02:17:03.719
of the axis mondy, the human spine, and the umbilical
2215
02:17:03.760 --> 02:17:08.000
cord between Earth and heaven Christmas trees. They are derived
2216
02:17:08.000 --> 02:17:11.840
from Germanic tradition. There was a Christmas period pyramid as well.
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The pyramid has the all Seni at the top where
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02:17:13.799 --> 02:17:18.040
isis oversees everything. That's the apex that's going to be
2219
02:17:18.079 --> 02:17:21.079
the all s and I. And that is what your
2220
02:17:21.159 --> 02:17:24.079
Christmas tree is. No, it's not the Illuminati. You put
2221
02:17:24.120 --> 02:17:26.559
the tree light at the top and you have all
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02:17:26.600 --> 02:17:30.680
the lights around it. It represents countless things, as we've
2223
02:17:30.680 --> 02:17:34.280
talked about already, and the light from above shining down
2224
02:17:34.280 --> 02:17:38.159
below gives us gifts. The word I didn't know this
2225
02:17:38.239 --> 02:17:40.879
until last year. I studied German, but I didn't know.
2226
02:17:40.920 --> 02:17:42.479
I was like Tannin and bomb and there's a song
2227
02:17:42.520 --> 02:17:45.319
tanning bomb and oh it means for a tree. I
2228
02:17:45.360 --> 02:17:48.159
didn't know that. That's interesting. Again, you can pause here
2229
02:17:48.200 --> 02:17:50.200
and you can look at the origins of the tree
2230
02:17:51.040 --> 02:17:54.840
in the Bible. Jeremiah ten three through four. Jeremiah ten
2231
02:17:54.959 --> 02:17:59.120
three through four talks about the cutting of trees and
2232
02:17:59.520 --> 02:18:02.600
the coating of those trees with silver and gold, with
2233
02:18:02.680 --> 02:18:07.159
nails and hammers and all that. And that's again that's
2234
02:18:07.200 --> 02:18:10.159
another example of our Christmas tree traditions. This is a
2235
02:18:10.200 --> 02:18:12.760
quote from Joseph Campbell. You can read that if you
2236
02:18:12.799 --> 02:18:15.799
want to pause. It's about the resurrection after the crucifixion
2237
02:18:15.799 --> 02:18:19.879
of Attis. How a pine tree was cut on the
2238
02:18:19.879 --> 02:18:25.000
twenty second of March and brought the Sabelli's sanctuary and
2239
02:18:25.040 --> 02:18:30.319
they used it to honor Attis who was killed. We
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have Christmas decorations, Christmas decorations, ornaments. The ornaments are like planets,
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02:18:36.920 --> 02:18:42.520
balls or witch balls. They're protective amulets against darkness during Halloween.
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02:18:42.719 --> 02:18:46.079
You could type this in witch ball. Sixteenth century witch
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02:18:46.079 --> 02:18:49.040
balls were basically little glass balls with mirrors with a
2244
02:18:49.040 --> 02:18:52.079
piece of hair inside, and that would ward off evil
2245
02:18:52.079 --> 02:18:55.639
and witches, and so they're kind of like protective symbols.
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02:18:56.079 --> 02:18:59.040
The lights are, of course the sun. They are phallic
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02:18:59.159 --> 02:19:02.159
in nature. The star is the heavenly guide which brought
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02:19:02.159 --> 02:19:04.399
the wise men to the birth of Jesus. The tensil
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02:19:04.520 --> 02:19:06.760
is the snow, and it's also again in the book
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of Jeremiah ten three through four. We have evergreen plants,
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02:19:11.559 --> 02:19:14.799
we have holly. We have missletoe or missletoe. The green,
2252
02:19:15.079 --> 02:19:19.840
the red, and the white are very important colors life blood, menstruation,
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02:19:20.079 --> 02:19:23.120
birthing blood, etc. For the red green is of course
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02:19:23.159 --> 02:19:26.920
plant life, and the green man male white is puritary birth,
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the white horse and seamen plants. Here's a quote you
2256
02:19:31.799 --> 02:19:35.399
can read from a World mythology book about Balder, a
2257
02:19:35.440 --> 02:19:40.000
fertility god who dies and is resurrected Balder. Here is
2258
02:19:40.040 --> 02:19:42.760
another quote if you want to pause and read this.
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02:19:42.760 --> 02:19:47.639
This is about the oak King and how the missletoe
2260
02:19:48.040 --> 02:19:51.239
was used to kill one of these kings, and how
2261
02:19:51.280 --> 02:19:56.079
they were crucified on a T shaped cross. You want
2262
02:19:56.079 --> 02:20:01.120
to pause that and read that. For people on video. Saturnalia,
2263
02:20:01.680 --> 02:20:05.079
this is of course very famous, very very famous. The
2264
02:20:05.159 --> 02:20:11.159
word literally translates to matters relating to Saturn, matters of Saturn.
2265
02:20:12.200 --> 02:20:15.760
Here is the tree, the lord of the rings. God
2266
02:20:15.799 --> 02:20:19.120
exists within the crops and trees. From wheat we get bread,
2267
02:20:19.159 --> 02:20:23.239
body from wine or the vine we get the wine blood.
2268
02:20:23.799 --> 02:20:27.520
Saturn Elia. Mass is the mass, the gathering of things
2269
02:20:27.520 --> 02:20:29.760
that relate to Saturn, the Lord of the rings. So
2270
02:20:29.840 --> 02:20:33.719
those are things like feasting, singing, dancing, giving gifts just
2271
02:20:33.760 --> 02:20:37.520
like the gifts given to us by Jesus. Frigid ishtar
2272
02:20:37.799 --> 02:20:42.719
isis mattetasu in so many more. They have a tradition
2273
02:20:43.040 --> 02:20:46.799
in the Saturnalia story about it's called the Lords of Misrule.
2274
02:20:47.479 --> 02:20:50.799
Lords of Misrule was when people would change their positions
2275
02:20:50.799 --> 02:20:55.520
in society and servants would become masters for a day,
2276
02:20:56.360 --> 02:21:01.280
and servants would wear something called the pylos, which is
2277
02:21:01.280 --> 02:21:05.079
a hat like a skull cap that symbolizes freedom and
2278
02:21:05.200 --> 02:21:09.680
higher social status. It's also known as the cap of Mithra,
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02:21:10.840 --> 02:21:16.959
the Unconquered Son, soul invictus, and December twenty fifth was
2280
02:21:17.000 --> 02:21:22.879
called dis Natali Invicti Solis, the birthday of the Invincible Sun.
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02:21:23.600 --> 02:21:25.559
And that is why one of the reasons why, but
2282
02:21:25.639 --> 02:21:29.079
one of the major reasons why Christmas as we know
2283
02:21:29.159 --> 02:21:34.399
it today as a Christian celebration was so easily transmitted
2284
02:21:34.920 --> 02:21:39.040
from Pagan origins to what we call Christian origins because
2285
02:21:39.079 --> 02:21:44.159
it's basically the exact same thing. They're just moving Methra
2286
02:21:44.200 --> 02:21:46.719
out of the way and putting Jesus in there, which
2287
02:21:46.760 --> 02:21:52.840
is really an insult and it's really, in my opinion,
2288
02:21:53.239 --> 02:21:59.920
it's insulting, and it's it's an abomination that if you'd
2289
02:22:00.079 --> 02:22:03.520
dismiss all of the other origins of this and think
2290
02:22:03.559 --> 02:22:07.159
it's just strictly we own this as Christians, I think
2291
02:22:07.159 --> 02:22:10.479
that's abhorrent. In the same way that rejecting Crampis, who's
2292
02:22:10.479 --> 02:22:12.520
telling you to live by the ten commandments or you're
2293
02:22:12.520 --> 02:22:14.680
going to be punished. How's that any different than the devil?
2294
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I think that's abhorrent to destroy the Crampis image, But
2295
02:22:19.079 --> 02:22:21.280
I also think it's horrible to worship Crampis as some
2296
02:22:21.319 --> 02:22:23.719
like wonderful thing, which there are like weird Satanists that
2297
02:22:23.799 --> 02:22:27.959
do that. So but you can see that on the screen,
2298
02:22:28.120 --> 02:22:30.120
or you know what this looks like if you're listening
2299
02:22:30.200 --> 02:22:34.559
the Santa hat that comes from the hat worn by Mithra.
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If you want to pause these slides, this will tell
2301
02:22:39.319 --> 02:22:42.840
you a little bit about Christmas and saturn Elia as
2302
02:22:42.840 --> 02:22:46.840
they relate to dates. Saturn Elia was on December seventeenth,
2303
02:22:46.840 --> 02:22:49.000
and there was kind of a Honkah celebration, as the
2304
02:22:49.079 --> 02:22:51.799
Jews celebrate. It might have even came from Honika, because
2305
02:22:51.799 --> 02:22:55.559
the Jews were very welcome in Rome at several different
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02:22:55.559 --> 02:22:59.159
points of the Roman Empire historically, so it might even
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02:22:59.280 --> 02:23:02.520
there might be a relation into Hankah there, although I
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02:23:02.520 --> 02:23:04.840
don't know where hanka might have even came from Babylon
2309
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for all I know, so because the Jews were held
2310
02:23:07.120 --> 02:23:09.079
captive there, and that's where they got their kabbala from.
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So maybe they got Hankah their as well. I don't know.
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02:23:11.319 --> 02:23:14.280
The point is you can stop these slides and you
2313
02:23:14.319 --> 02:23:17.079
can read what they say and learn a little bit
2314
02:23:17.120 --> 02:23:24.239
more about Christmas. There's also the Winter couple, the old
2315
02:23:24.319 --> 02:23:28.520
Man Green Man and the old woman Fraujole. Their plants
2316
02:23:28.520 --> 02:23:33.959
are missiletoe winter palms, and you can read about Christmas
2317
02:23:33.959 --> 02:23:38.840
basically being a fertility festival, the preservation of fertility. We
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02:23:38.879 --> 02:23:42.600
talked about the hunter Osiris, the green Man, you know,
2319
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he's green agriculture god and Osiris, according to Mark Booth
2320
02:23:48.840 --> 02:23:51.440
and The Secret History of the World, really amazing book
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02:23:51.479 --> 02:23:53.000
if you've never heard of it or read it. The
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02:23:53.040 --> 02:23:58.159
Secret History of the World. Osiris is derived from a
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02:23:58.200 --> 02:24:02.239
word that means semen, so he is the seaman. So
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it is a fertility festival. And of course nothing would
2325
02:24:05.280 --> 02:24:08.879
be complete and without talking about the Shamanic origins. This
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is another thing, kind of like Zeitgeist and kind of
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02:24:11.799 --> 02:24:13.879
like the people that talk about the War on Christmas,
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02:24:13.920 --> 02:24:16.799
they're both right and wrong. The Shamanic Christmas. This is
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02:24:16.799 --> 02:24:19.760
definitely one of those things where it is a very
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for me, fascinating perspective on Christmas, because you're absolutely right
2331
02:24:26.920 --> 02:24:29.280
if you believe that. Yes, a lot of these traditions
2332
02:24:31.440 --> 02:24:34.840
have a relationship to shamanism. They don't come necessarily from
2333
02:24:34.879 --> 02:24:38.680
shamanism per se, but they have a very strong relationship.
2334
02:24:38.760 --> 02:24:40.399
Some of them might we don't know how to. I
2335
02:24:40.399 --> 02:24:42.920
don't think we can trace back the exact origins, but
2336
02:24:43.239 --> 02:24:47.000
certainly some of them do come from shamanism, or at
2337
02:24:47.079 --> 02:24:52.079
least can be correlated very strongly. The shamans that wear
2338
02:24:52.079 --> 02:24:55.200
the red and white this is the flagary I'm gonna
2339
02:24:55.200 --> 02:24:58.840
need a mushroom. They grow under trees like presents. The
2340
02:24:58.879 --> 02:25:01.879
shaman comes down the pull into the smoke lodge like
2341
02:25:01.920 --> 02:25:05.239
sand to delivering gifts. I've never done mushrooms, but I'd
2342
02:25:05.239 --> 02:25:07.600
imagine that if you live around reindeer and you do
2343
02:25:07.680 --> 02:25:11.760
some mushrooms, the deer might fly. You have slides sleds
2344
02:25:11.799 --> 02:25:14.639
that you're sliding around on. So very clearly there is
2345
02:25:14.680 --> 02:25:18.360
a relationship. But if someone just says, well Christmas comes
2346
02:25:18.399 --> 02:25:21.879
from the shamans, well, well, maybe ultimately it does if
2347
02:25:21.879 --> 02:25:25.040
you go back far enough, but most of the modern
2348
02:25:25.120 --> 02:25:29.440
traditions and even some of the more ancient traditions, because
2349
02:25:29.440 --> 02:25:31.879
we're talking about shamanism. Shamanism goes back, like we're talking
2350
02:25:31.959 --> 02:25:35.559
thirty forty fifty plus thousand years, so that's more than ancient.
2351
02:25:35.879 --> 02:25:38.760
We're talking about modern and ancient traditions. It's probably not
2352
02:25:38.840 --> 02:25:43.760
coming directly from shamanism. But then again, you could say
2353
02:25:43.799 --> 02:25:46.000
like well everything goes back to Adam and Eve and
2354
02:25:46.040 --> 02:25:51.079
say well, it's all from Genesis. And so my point is, yes,
2355
02:25:51.239 --> 02:25:54.719
some of it can be certainly without doubt correlated to Christmas.
2356
02:25:54.760 --> 02:25:57.399
And you can see some of the examples there. And
2357
02:25:57.479 --> 02:25:59.200
what do people see when they're when they're tripping on
2358
02:25:59.239 --> 02:26:02.520
certain things ayahuasca, DMT things like that, you see elves.
2359
02:26:03.040 --> 02:26:06.479
I've never done it, but I've heard about the machine
2360
02:26:06.520 --> 02:26:08.479
elves and one of the elves where they were a
2361
02:26:08.520 --> 02:26:12.799
Mithra's hat. So you can I think a lot of
2362
02:26:12.799 --> 02:26:16.079
people probably know. If you're listening to this show, you've
2363
02:26:16.079 --> 02:26:20.000
probably heard of the Christmas elves and the DMT stuff.
2364
02:26:20.040 --> 02:26:23.760
So here is another slide you can pause and read
2365
02:26:23.799 --> 02:26:28.760
about the shaman shamanic Christmas. Of course, Santa Claus, we
2366
02:26:28.799 --> 02:26:32.479
know as being red and white, comes largely, not entirely,
2367
02:26:32.520 --> 02:26:38.799
but largely from Coca Cola, and within a matter of
2368
02:26:38.840 --> 02:26:43.280
about one hundred years Santa went from mister Winter bringing
2369
02:26:43.280 --> 02:26:47.000
the tree inside to coca cola. And I noticed this,
2370
02:26:47.479 --> 02:26:50.879
just putting this slide show together, a presentation I'm giving,
2371
02:26:52.520 --> 02:26:58.319
I noticed that. Well, how would I say this? It's
2372
02:26:58.319 --> 02:27:00.840
something I noticed. I just I realized, Wait, at okay,
2373
02:27:00.879 --> 02:27:03.280
so there used to be real cocaine and coca cola, right, yeah,
2374
02:27:03.840 --> 02:27:08.280
real cocaine. There's two other really important symbols of Christmas
2375
02:27:08.319 --> 02:27:12.479
that you might not even think of, pine cones and
2376
02:27:12.559 --> 02:27:18.760
poppy one. Pine cones are the external representative of what
2377
02:27:19.239 --> 02:27:25.479
the pineal gland and poppy opium. Poppy was used by
2378
02:27:25.479 --> 02:27:31.159
the Greeks in the mystery traditions. So in essence, you've
2379
02:27:31.159 --> 02:27:36.000
got poppy seeds, pine cones, and coke cocaine and all
2380
02:27:36.040 --> 02:27:38.600
of the other plants and things that Santa's smoking in
2381
02:27:38.639 --> 02:27:42.520
this pipe. Traditionally, Christmas is really a holiday to get high.
2382
02:27:42.559 --> 02:27:45.959
I guess, So people that get high on Christmas, I
2383
02:27:45.959 --> 02:27:50.319
guess you're celebrating in the right way. Just a few
2384
02:27:50.360 --> 02:27:56.559
more slides left, So Santa brings children all those things
2385
02:27:56.559 --> 02:28:00.239
we mentioned. It's about abundance for a lot of people.
2386
02:28:00.239 --> 02:28:01.959
If you live near the ocean, abundance comes out of
2387
02:28:01.959 --> 02:28:05.760
the ocean. So there's actually I didn't know this until
2388
02:28:05.840 --> 02:28:08.040
this week either. I read about something called the Seven
2389
02:28:08.120 --> 02:28:11.200
Fishes Feast, the Feast of seven Fishes. It's an Italian
2390
02:28:11.879 --> 02:28:16.920
American celebration, and it features seven different seafood dishes. This
2391
02:28:17.000 --> 02:28:22.239
is an Italian celebration, and the Italians actually have quite
2392
02:28:22.280 --> 02:28:30.079
a bit of base, quite a bit of substantial influence
2393
02:28:30.680 --> 02:28:33.600
in these traditions, because if you have a look at
2394
02:28:33.600 --> 02:28:38.000
the Vatican, the Holy Sea where the fish swim in
2395
02:28:38.079 --> 02:28:42.479
the Holy Sea, the Pope's hat is the dug On
2396
02:28:42.920 --> 02:28:46.920
dagone hat, and you see the Pope's ring as the fissure,
2397
02:28:48.079 --> 02:28:50.000
and you see the fissure of men, the little symbol
2398
02:28:50.040 --> 02:28:52.159
that Christians put on their cars to let people who
2399
02:28:52.159 --> 02:28:56.040
hate Christians know that they can vandalize the car. And
2400
02:28:55.120 --> 02:28:59.079
you see a dagon there at the bottom with the
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02:28:59.120 --> 02:29:02.239
magic wand and the fish hat. And then you see
2402
02:29:02.239 --> 02:29:06.280
Saint Nicholas with the fish hat and the rod and
2403
02:29:06.319 --> 02:29:08.959
the white beard like Odin, and the red and white robes,
2404
02:29:11.159 --> 02:29:15.879
and the Holy Sea where the fish swim. You know
2405
02:29:15.920 --> 02:29:18.559
about all that maritime language, with the birth canal and
2406
02:29:18.600 --> 02:29:22.280
the woman's water breaks and your houses underwater and you
2407
02:29:22.280 --> 02:29:26.360
know that kind of stuff. Well, here's the fish symbolism
2408
02:29:27.159 --> 02:29:32.440
Holy See in Rome, and you have the Italian Feast
2409
02:29:32.479 --> 02:29:35.000
of seven Fishes, and you also have as we'll very
2410
02:29:35.079 --> 02:29:37.239
quickly get to here, Chris, because I know we're creating
2411
02:29:37.319 --> 02:29:39.000
low on time or just about at the end of
2412
02:29:39.000 --> 02:29:44.159
the show. There's a Christmas witch called Bayfauna. She's known
2413
02:29:44.159 --> 02:29:48.520
as the Italian Christmas Witch, and which is ride broomsticks right. Well,
2414
02:29:48.520 --> 02:29:52.079
that comes from these switches that were used they put
2415
02:29:52.079 --> 02:29:55.680
together and they were used to sweep out homes for
2416
02:29:55.799 --> 02:29:58.920
the winter, to clean things. Shamans also use them to
2417
02:29:58.959 --> 02:30:03.600
heal people. Saint Nicholas holds that staff. Sometimes Jesus is
2418
02:30:03.639 --> 02:30:06.639
shown with the staff. And here's the Italian Christmas which Befauna,
2419
02:30:06.719 --> 02:30:10.040
known as Epiphany is in the Feast of Epiphany, a
2420
02:30:10.120 --> 02:30:14.920
very important Christian holiday, and she descends down a chimney,
2421
02:30:14.920 --> 02:30:18.639
brings gifts, et cetera. The whole story that we've talked about.
2422
02:30:18.879 --> 02:30:22.120
She's also known as the wild woman, which is a
2423
02:30:22.239 --> 02:30:25.159
theme in classical mythology. The wild women are the ones
2424
02:30:25.200 --> 02:30:30.319
that kill Dionysus, the wine god, in a frenzy of drunkenness.
2425
02:30:31.559 --> 02:30:37.719
There's also this character from Iceland called Grillia, an ice
2426
02:30:37.840 --> 02:30:41.879
Landy Christmas witch, and she oversees a family of thirteen
2427
02:30:42.479 --> 02:30:49.120
known as the thirteen Yule Lots. And she comes with
2428
02:30:49.479 --> 02:30:52.559
a sack on her back like Crampus to take children
2429
02:30:52.600 --> 02:30:56.760
away who don't do what they're supposed to do. And
2430
02:30:56.799 --> 02:31:00.360
then there's Ruprict as I mentioned, he just carries a
2431
02:31:00.399 --> 02:31:03.079
sack and a rod to punish people. He's identified with Odin,
2432
02:31:03.840 --> 02:31:08.600
and he actually carries with him, well some kind of
2433
02:31:09.200 --> 02:31:12.120
you know rod that is usually mad out of hazel wood,
2434
02:31:13.680 --> 02:31:18.440
which is the wood of Thor and that is also
2435
02:31:18.639 --> 02:31:24.040
the that is the Christmas tree, taken from the Christmas tree,
2436
02:31:24.120 --> 02:31:25.719
which is how you make a magic wand you take
2437
02:31:25.799 --> 02:31:28.760
the from a tree. And he visits children in December fifth,
2438
02:31:28.799 --> 02:31:33.159
that's when Crampis comes or Black Pete, which is a
2439
02:31:33.159 --> 02:31:36.559
whole very controversial history. Now Black Pete Is the character
2440
02:31:36.600 --> 02:31:40.479
comes down the chimney gets soot Oliver's face like cinders Cinderella,
2441
02:31:41.520 --> 02:31:45.280
and here's Crampis is associated with rupe Rict and Odin.
2442
02:31:46.040 --> 02:31:49.399
Crampon means claw and some myths hees the son of
2443
02:31:49.440 --> 02:31:53.319
Hell h l not like Hell in the Christian sense.
2444
02:31:53.360 --> 02:31:57.360
But the Norse underworld god is hell Hl probably heal.
2445
02:31:57.440 --> 02:31:59.000
I don't know how to pronounce it exactly. I don't
2446
02:31:59.000 --> 02:32:02.200
speak that language. And he comes on December fifth, called
2447
02:32:02.239 --> 02:32:06.360
crump Us knucked. And here's an interesting thing. Trumpest boxes.
2448
02:32:07.360 --> 02:32:11.079
You put your name in the box if you've been bad,
2449
02:32:11.920 --> 02:32:13.799
and if you live in a part of the world
2450
02:32:13.840 --> 02:32:16.840
where the sun doesn't really come out that much, well,
2451
02:32:16.879 --> 02:32:18.680
your name's supposed to stay in the box until the
2452
02:32:18.719 --> 02:32:22.280
sun comes out the next day without any cloud coverage,
2453
02:32:22.680 --> 02:32:24.639
which is probably not going to happen if you live
2454
02:32:24.680 --> 02:32:28.520
in Portland, Buffalo or any of the Scandinavian countries during
2455
02:32:28.559 --> 02:32:30.959
this time of the year. And so it's very unlikely
2456
02:32:30.959 --> 02:32:32.559
if your name goes in the box, it's coming out
2457
02:32:32.559 --> 02:32:34.559
of the box. And you don't want your name to
2458
02:32:34.559 --> 02:32:36.440
be in the box on December fifth, Chris, because if
2459
02:32:36.440 --> 02:32:38.680
your name's in the box on December fifth, guess what happens.
2460
02:32:38.959 --> 02:32:41.959
Grampis comes, beats you and then puts you in a
2461
02:32:42.000 --> 02:32:45.159
bag and takes you to Hell. And that's not good.
2462
02:32:45.360 --> 02:32:48.879
So kids probably be pretty good because they don't want
2463
02:32:48.920 --> 02:32:53.799
to be dragged by Crampis down into into Hell. Yeah,
2464
02:32:53.879 --> 02:32:58.440
it's a crampis box right on, and that's pretty much it.
2465
02:32:58.479 --> 02:33:01.520
There's just like a very few number of slies left
2466
02:33:01.559 --> 02:33:04.000
the elf on the shelf. I wouldn't bring it into
2467
02:33:04.040 --> 02:33:07.200
my house, not because psychological things, but because you don't
2468
02:33:07.200 --> 02:33:09.360
want elves in your house. Okay, this isn't Harry Potter
2469
02:33:09.399 --> 02:33:13.239
with Adobe. You don't want elves in the house. There's
2470
02:33:13.280 --> 02:33:15.840
actually a folklore tradition about the elf on the shelf.
2471
02:33:16.719 --> 02:33:18.520
You can see the story here on the screen, but
2472
02:33:18.520 --> 02:33:21.280
that the family who designed it. The folk legend is,
2473
02:33:21.760 --> 02:33:23.879
or the urban legend is that they made a deal
2474
02:33:23.920 --> 02:33:27.360
with the devil and that to get very successful, the
2475
02:33:27.399 --> 02:33:29.440
devil would be able to put his minions in everybody's
2476
02:33:29.440 --> 02:33:31.520
house and he would help them to make money and
2477
02:33:31.559 --> 02:33:34.079
get their product out there, which is the exact same
2478
02:33:34.200 --> 02:33:38.680
urban legend. So it's archetypical in nature. It's the exact
2479
02:33:38.680 --> 02:33:41.399
same urban legend of the Hello Kitty. A woman's daughter
2480
02:33:41.520 --> 02:33:44.600
in Japan has cancer. She goes to all the Japanese doctors.
2481
02:33:44.600 --> 02:33:46.239
They can't help her, so she makes a deal with
2482
02:33:46.319 --> 02:33:48.479
the devil, and the devil says, I'll cure your daughter's
2483
02:33:48.479 --> 02:33:52.319
throat cancer if you help me to spread this doll
2484
02:33:52.520 --> 02:33:57.200
into the hands of little girls. And the doll can't see, hear,
2485
02:33:57.239 --> 02:34:00.639
and can't speak. So there's a child abused trama element
2486
02:34:00.680 --> 02:34:02.520
to it too. You find that in the elf on
2487
02:34:02.559 --> 02:34:04.559
the shelf. So I would bring that little effort into
2488
02:34:04.600 --> 02:34:05.000
my mouth.
2489
02:34:05.159 --> 02:34:05.479
Wow.
2490
02:34:07.360 --> 02:34:13.000
Yes, last slides, very very simple stuff. Probably the last one.
2491
02:34:13.159 --> 02:34:15.040
This is the last one. I already mentioned it. But
2492
02:34:15.120 --> 02:34:18.879
now that we know everything about Christmas, I think we
2493
02:34:18.920 --> 02:34:21.639
can see the story of Ama Tetusu in Japan coming
2494
02:34:21.639 --> 02:34:25.639
out of the cave, the reflective mirror decorating the Christmas tree.
2495
02:34:26.600 --> 02:34:29.719
And in Japan you'll see these are called shimenawa, these
2496
02:34:29.799 --> 02:34:33.360
straw ropes around trees with sheide little papers hanging off
2497
02:34:33.360 --> 02:34:37.959
of them. That signifies that the God, that the spirit
2498
02:34:39.120 --> 02:34:41.840
is in the tree, and that is the center of
2499
02:34:41.879 --> 02:34:48.600
our Christmas celebrations and traditions. And there for people that
2500
02:34:48.639 --> 02:34:51.000
live in the desert, I didn't forget about you. I
2501
02:34:51.040 --> 02:34:54.040
live in the desert, and we have Bishop's cap hat
2502
02:34:54.079 --> 02:34:57.399
of Saint Nicholas cactus, peyote cactus which if you take
2503
02:34:57.440 --> 02:34:59.879
some of that you might be seeing elves, and then
2504
02:35:00.079 --> 02:35:03.719
the decorated soirl cactus, and also the Christmas cactus which
2505
02:35:03.760 --> 02:35:07.120
is a plant, really nice little succulent plant, and that
2506
02:35:07.280 --> 02:35:10.399
is the Holly Holy Days. Chris, thank you for having me.
2507
02:35:10.479 --> 02:35:14.319
Yeah, that was great, Ryan, a fantastic presentation. And it
2508
02:35:14.319 --> 02:35:17.680
seems like all of these cultures and belief systems are
2509
02:35:17.719 --> 02:35:20.799
like little puzzle pieces that if we can put together
2510
02:35:20.879 --> 02:35:24.200
we get a little bit bigger picture of what could
2511
02:35:24.520 --> 02:35:27.280
possibly be the meaning behind a lot of these things.
2512
02:35:27.680 --> 02:35:31.120
So thank you so much. As was fantastic. Before we
2513
02:35:31.200 --> 02:35:33.879
close out, let the audience know, I know you're going
2514
02:35:33.920 --> 02:35:37.959
to be given this as a presentation. If there's anyone
2515
02:35:38.159 --> 02:35:40.639
available as it going to be an in person presentation
2516
02:35:40.799 --> 02:35:41.799
or online.
2517
02:35:43.440 --> 02:35:45.239
It will be well. I would like to be able
2518
02:35:45.280 --> 02:35:48.200
to do video presentations. I have a bunch of power
2519
02:35:48.239 --> 02:35:50.280
points like this set up for different subjects. I have
2520
02:35:50.319 --> 02:35:53.360
a uthology one, I have a symbolism one of the
2521
02:35:53.479 --> 02:35:56.200
corporate symbolism. I have a bunch of them. So I'm
2522
02:35:56.200 --> 02:35:58.079
going to try to get that set up. But yes,
2523
02:35:58.120 --> 02:36:01.479
it's in person. Unlike that anybody listening would be able
2524
02:36:01.520 --> 02:36:04.479
to come. It's in Tucson December twenty first, six to
2525
02:36:04.520 --> 02:36:07.559
eight pm, Nexus Occult Books. But if you'd like to
2526
02:36:07.600 --> 02:36:10.079
meet me or if you'd like to come to the
2527
02:36:10.120 --> 02:36:12.719
talk and just listen, or if you'd like to stab
2528
02:36:12.760 --> 02:36:15.319
me because you hate me. I will be at Nexus
2529
02:36:15.319 --> 02:36:18.680
Occult Books on December twenty first. That's in Tucson Nexus
2530
02:36:18.719 --> 02:36:21.639
Ocult Books. But otherwise I'll be talking about this stuff
2531
02:36:21.680 --> 02:36:25.239
all week on my show Tstradio dot info or find
2532
02:36:25.239 --> 02:36:28.120
the show anywhere else you listen to radio shows podcasts,
2533
02:36:28.120 --> 02:36:31.559
but all the links are on that website, social media, email,
2534
02:36:31.600 --> 02:36:34.959
TST radio at ProtonMail dot com, estradio dot info.
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02:36:35.799 --> 02:36:38.600
That's pretty awesome, Ryan, Thank you so much, great presentation.
2536
02:36:39.040 --> 02:36:40.959
Definitely going to have you back on in the future.
2537
02:36:41.200 --> 02:36:45.040
And until next time, everyone, have a wonderful evening. We'll
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