FIVEAA Breakfast with David & Will - 23 October 2025

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Speaker 1: David Penberthy and World Goodings five double a Breakfast tod after six.
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Speaker 2: Good morning too, and welcome to Thursday, the twenty third of October. Coming up on the program this morning, we're gonna be chatting with the Dean of Student Development stat Ignacious about Eggy's getting unplugged from tomorrow. What does it mean? You'll find out very shortly. Also, how this is an awful story. Angela Webb local halloween enthusiast has been robbed now not once, but twice. Who pinches Halloween decorations? Will find out after six thirty and then after seven today. Controversial new plan on the front page of the advertiser to encourage affordable housing and apartment living. How would you feel about an apartment that no longer has a mandated balcony or even kitchen? You have communal versions of both makes things cheaper? What does it mean for things like student accommodation. We'll talk about that after seven o'clock with the University of Adelaide property expert Peter Kalizos as well and the big one this morning, the Governor General Sam Moston is going to join us live in the studio after seven o'clock. I was just trying to work back through this, David, and good morning to you, David Hurley. I don't recall us ever having David Hurley on. And Peter Cosgrove we've had on subsequently, but I don't think we had him on as Governor General. They've been the three during our time. I reckon. This is a first for us over the last ten years having the Governor General in the studio.
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Speaker 3: That's right, Good morning, well, good morning listeners. Normally our vice regal contacts are limited to our good friend friends, we should say on North Terrace, her excellency Francis Adamson. We also had a great who I should have We clearly adore. She's a wonderful, wonderful woman doing a great job as governor. Really smart, modern thinking woman, hugely successful career. Her predecessor, Hugh Van laiyh just the world's nicest guy. We love their dealings with him and Kevin Scarce. And Kevin Scarce is different because we didn't really know Kevin Scarce as governor, but we interviewed him lots.
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Speaker 2: Yeah as them nuclear fuel cycle real quest.
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Speaker 3: I think it's fair to say that he.
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Speaker 2: Won us over.
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Speaker 3: If you want to hear some of the most slavish and biased interviewing in the history of broadcast radio, go back and listen to us talking to Kevin's Scarce about nuclear Our only concern with his recommendations that they didn't go far enough.
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Speaker 2: The hole was too deep.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, exactly, can we take more waste?
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Speaker 2: Kevin Scarce has that great quality that a lot of veteran people know this if you've got them in your family. Often too, and certainly high ranking guys are more so like it. But Grant Stevens has this quality too, where they can stare at you, and there's a certain stare where they it looks like they're looking into your soul. It comes with authority and commanding large groups of people. I don't know how that. I don't know if it's trained or it just develops naturally. But Kevin Scarce could look at you like Grant Stevens can look at you all right, Sonny Jim.
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Speaker 3: He's very precise with his answers as well. He'd only say what he wanted to say, and I think quite cagy around journalists at first, but then once he realized that you weren't able to do a number on him. He was good. Those three must have from memory. I want to double check this before we interview her. I think she was the first female AFL commissioner. She's a massive Swans fan. She was on the Swans board for a long time, and I knew her in Sydney when she was at the Swans because the paper I was at, the Telegraph was the official paper of the Sydney Swans when the Swans won the two thousand and five flag, so she was in the thick of all of that. It was just a great, great time of being Sydney because people actually suddenly really got into them. She is.
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Speaker 2: She was the first female AFL commissioner. And also just to give you sometimes you know of people's excellence by their absence. She was a big wiged optist for a long time. And how well have they gone recently since she's found other things to do. Exactly right after six.
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Speaker 3: Speaks about its beeragically in there.
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Speaker 2: Now that's it, speaking of a bit of a temperature check on how well things are going. We to get our listeners reviews of the new Weather Bureau website.
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Speaker 3: This is copying and pasting.
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Speaker 2: I logged onto it yesterday and I genuinely thought, oh, they've been hacked. It's been replaced with you knows something as you go to websites, hotels, websites, how you go to certain websites and you go, oh, they haven't there, they've been down or they've been hacked. Because they've there's like a bad replica version that's now there. I genuinely thought, oh, man, this is a bit of a story. No, it's the new website. It's still the bomb bomb dot garb dot au. But everywhere they referred to as the Bureau or the Bureau of Meteorology.
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Speaker 3: How many people use it though? I just used the app. Although the website's got much Richard data on it, hasn't it than the app?
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Speaker 2: Have you downloaded Weather Bureau app? Have you?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? I got it on the phone.
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Speaker 2: I use it every day. Maybe I'm maybe I'm the weird one. I figured everyone goes to the bomb dot gov dot au.
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Speaker 3: There we go see bomb Weather.
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Speaker 2: Has the app changed? This could be a live review give on their eight double two three double o double will text us on the slow Police homecare text line? What do you make of the new Weather Bureau website?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 2: I've never used the app.
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Speaker 3: So bottom has got home passed? Is all the read it out. So twelve point three at six ten am was the highest temperature in Adelaide. Eleven point four at three point thirty two am was the low. We've had point four mill of rain since nine name yesterday. Strongest wind gust eleven kilometers. The map, the map, hold up the map, no rain, and then warnings you can see if there's so yeah, marine wind warning, all of that. It's very simple. Yeah, excellent.
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Speaker 2: Get that there. The first review that's come through. I can't read out, but let's just say imagine it's someone said it's really bad in the bluest language possible. Thank you, Tim zero before zero eight thirty ninety five.
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Speaker 3: People, Adam's add a crackhet.
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Speaker 2: It looks I didn't want to be the person that just jumped on the pylon, but you go there. It looks cheaper, it's it's less. The old one looked regal. I did not regal, but it looked.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never seen the old one. When I looked at the article when it popped up yesterday, I was like, you know what it would be. It would be some trendy mainframe design type person who got called in and said, we're just going to strip it right back. We're just gonna you know, the previous website was a bit maximalist. This is going to say more less and you know, a good FLI would be how much did it cost? Because the taxpayers money? I'm sure that it was like years ago. The ATO decided that it needed a rebrand because it thought that it's old logo that looked like I'd been carved out of steel. It looked too brutalist and harsh. In the end, they paid some consult and hundreds of thousands of dollars and they came up with a new Australian Tax Office signage that was twenty four point times new Roman. It's like the default position on Microsoft Word.
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Speaker 2: But the reviews are coming in, Sue in my law, what do you think of it?
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Speaker 4: I hated it. I clicked onto it yesterday and normally when I went on the old site, my I had my load typed in as my preferred town. I could go straight onto it, I could check up the seven days, and I live on it during the five season. You know, I'm always on there. And this was just pain Yeah, not happy at all.
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Speaker 2: It's a great example of fixing something that wasn't broken. Thank you, sir Mark and Elizabeth Park good morning.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, good morning guys.
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Speaker 6: I propped on the weather Bureau last night before I went to bed, just to check the weather.
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Speaker 5: I couldn't work it out.
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Speaker 6: I had no idea what I was doing with them.
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Speaker 3: It's terrible.
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Speaker 2: It's not particularly intuitive and the information you want isn't It's not necessarily obvious either. Let's go to South Brighton, Dave.
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Speaker 7: What do you think morning, guys. I use a map on my phone called rain Radar, and it usually where it's all around Australia, picks up where you are and you just click on the near me whichever is your nearest radar for check them for rain and stuff. None of them are working in the South Australian section the moment.
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Speaker 8: That's that's through that app.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, Dave, thank you. I'll tell you he's going to love this stuff. Topic met Abraham after seven point thirty.
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Speaker 3: He's always had it in for the bomb. He doesn't rate them at all. What's it called Willie Weather? Will you weather? Yeah? Now? Deborah and Glenelge North on the text line the police Home care text line. Deborah says, I haven't tried this, but it might work. She says, if you don't like the new bomb and you want to go to the old bomb site, use the address RG dot bomb dot gov dot AU. So r G as in Reginald.
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Speaker 2: Deborah, you're a lifesaver.
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Speaker 3: So it works.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely it works. I don't know for how long it'll work. But just have a look how beautiful that is.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, with all that.
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Speaker 2: Information and then look at this diabolical replacement.
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Speaker 3: That's so bad right about there, I'm looking regal It looked.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's the Australian Gubard's official But this is.
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Speaker 3: The thing these days, like if it ain't broke, don't fix it. What possessed them to do it?
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Speaker 9: Is?
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Speaker 1: It?
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Speaker 3: Like they're coming up for another You must be in a reviews spend all their day seriously, keep.
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Speaker 2: The reviews couping in FORO exact double two three double O double zero before zero eight thirty nine. If I maybe someone out there thinks it's better more than happy hello, this is.
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Speaker 3: Garbage vegimin two point zero weather app shitouse, no given, but just beautiful sentiments.
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Speaker 2: So we'll put all right, let's get a little hamp today. But what do you think?
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Speaker 10: Ah?
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Speaker 11: Yeah, Hi guys, I have another suggestion for you, Dave direction. You will really like this one, seeing that you like the weather app. This one is called w T.
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Speaker 12: S four car w T s F for.
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Speaker 11: Freddy w T S so in other words, today it says all the clouds through friggin shade, but not as much as your stupid egg.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Twenty minutes after six, we're going to take a break. We will be checking the weather and talking sport with Tom rend Veration, David.
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Speaker 1: Penberthie and Will Goodings. Five double a break first.
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Speaker 2: Twenty four after six. I tell you what's popular this morning. Deborah's suggestion of how to get to the old bureau website that is rig dot bomb dot gov dot Are you I think it was Deborah, wasn't it? Who texted? Is that a short time ago to the police sabcare text line. Lots of requests for that and in the interests of fairness and accurately reflecting the police samecare text line, Bobby says the new bomb site is way better than the previous one. Yay, Bobby? Who maybe Bobby do you work at the weather Bureau. Did you design the website? Bobby, No, No, maybe it's got something for someone. Let's use the website. I'm going to use the old one. Twelve point three degrees outside of the city at the moment, edding for a top of twenty today, top of twenty two tomorrow, and then the weekend. Storms possible for both Saturday and Sunday. Twenty five millimeters of rain. The maximum forecast for Saturday to four to twenty five.
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Speaker 3: The strokes are on at nine thirty Saturday night, and I really want to know exactly.
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Speaker 2: Very high chance of showers most lately in the afternoon and evening.
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Speaker 3: It could be like that harvest a couple of years back where it was an absolute mud pit. That was the one where things went.
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Speaker 2: Hey, what thunderstorm? Likely they wouldn't lightning. What happens in lightning with an outdoor concert.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Actually, point also and Sunday possible early storm and showers top of twenty one. One to eight millimeters of rain possible. So the early part of next week you see the storms dissipate. Monday, maybe a drizzle in nineteen and then it's mostly clear. On Tuesday twenty one and Wednesday gets to twenty three.
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Speaker 3: Hey yeah, shout out to Keith, my new mate from Holden's. One of the three bikes are caught up with the other day Steve and Andy as well. We had a great time at the Salisbury Hotel. But Keith, I know you're listening, mate. Thanks for your text and I got your email. I only saw it this morning when I woke up. I was getting ready for work, so I've only skimmer read. I had a good look at it. It looked excellent. Thank you, and I love the photo you said of you working in you as the clown at the Holden work is Christmas Park, So.
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Speaker 2: It's a great article concept looking at the history of that site and the politics of the people who lived through that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 2: I think it's a really interesting insight and do a huge part of Adelaide in South Australia.
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Speaker 3: Good fun thing to do, good good fun way to do a policy story around them and the actual people who work there on interviewing people from the Productivity Commission or whatever.
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Speaker 2: Tom Rens and the five of the Black Breakfast Studio with Agustine and Mitsubishi get two five hundred dollars cash bonus and Eclipse plug in hybrids, teas and seas a play Morning.
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Speaker 13: To you, Morning Will, Morning David. For those soccer fans waking up this morning. I know we've got a lot of Liverpool supporters have lost four games in a row in all competitions. That was starting badly in their Champions League game against Frankfurt, but they've just scored three goals in the last nine minutes, so things look like they might be turning around finally for Liverpool, which is good for them.
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Speaker 3: We'll keep an eye.
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Speaker 13: It's still only halftime, but they should win that. From there, we want to talk a little bit about We often talk about drafts, don't we, you know, and that's going to come up and everyone goes, oh, we drafted really well. And I think I've said a few times you can only really judge four or five years down the track. One this bit of buzz going around about the twenty twenty draft, and look, the Crows have copped their whack a fair bit on this program, and you know that's justified I think at times, and you know, poured everyone now and then have copped it as well, not so much recently, because they've been a bit better on field as unlike this year. But overnight Will Phillips or yesterday he was the number three pick in the twenty twenty draft. He got delisted from North Melbourne. That's sad for him.
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Speaker 14: But the Crows, you've got to.
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Speaker 13: Say, have done pretty well. I think they got Roley philthorpeit picked two in twenty twenty. Just have a look at the other top ten in this draft. Jamara hugil Hagen. He's on his last legs, you would think, I mean, he could be anything.
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Speaker 2: But other states exactly won't be at the Bulldogs.
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Speaker 13: Yeps, not going to be at the Bulldogs. So he's gone a go. Philthorpe two, Phillips now delisted four. Logan McDonald. I like the look of him, but he just can't get his body right.
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Speaker 2: They had three hour meeting or six hour meeting or something ridiculous to choose between Philthorpe and McDonald's the draft, so it was very close and I think chose well.
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Speaker 13: Chose Braden Campbell, Sydney solid player is okay, you're not bad, Denver Granger, Brass Hawthorne, Elijah Hollinds, Gold Coast number eight, Nick Cox Essendon, Archie Perkins Essendon, number nine, Zach Reid Essendon number ten. Not too many winners there.
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Speaker 3: Are they? Right?
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Speaker 2: Three top ten picks that year?
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Speaker 13: Did you Essendon had the worst year to have three top ten picks? Now, the other point you've got to make though, is is it Essendon a choosing poorly will or are they developing badly?
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Speaker 3: Well?
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Speaker 13: I think it's probably That's a great point. Tom Power is probably the next best of that draft. He's picked thirteen, and then Max Holmes is number twenty in hindsight, not the best draft, and the Crows I think got the best of it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that certainly seems that way. I'm just thinking it mirrors the twenty twenty draft in the NBA. There was anomalies in it. And I reckon, you can't talk about these drafts without talking about COVID and the way it disrupted the you know, the year leading up, your opportunity to see the guys they're what kind of build up they had, how were they training? It was wasn't It was a weird year. It was different. Yeah, And I reckon those are the two sports. I know the drafts well enough. I wonder if in other sports. There are examples of there were just weird misses in that period because everything was weird. But that was a shock of that draft.
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Speaker 13: It was, wasn't it. And then twenty twenty one, you know, I talk about that one. That one looks like it's going to be, you know, so much better. One of the old time drafts, isn't it. That's a one with Jason Horn, Francis and all of those. So, yeah, fascinating. It was just interesting that all happened yesterday, and you go, well, the Crows. You have to give him a big tick for.
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Speaker 2: That, but it's really the only major winner in that top ten.
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Speaker 3: Yep, you got the golf here, Tom Well.
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Speaker 12: No, I was I wish I did.
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Speaker 13: I wish I was playing golf, but it was all I could find at this time in the morning.
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Speaker 2: Can you believe that.
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Speaker 3: That's not just an hour by for on air purposes in case your bosses at nine listening, Oh no, chuck the sick.
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Speaker 2: Well teacher, go hang on, it is it's only six third. If anyone is out there and they need someone to complete a four, ready's ready to go, exactly, he's got the gear on, So just give us a tick.
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Speaker 3: I feel like I've missed out because I was crooked last Friday. Halfway through the show at Glenelga, I felt like death warmed up. My manfully stayed to nine am doing the outside broadcast. We will hear, but I didn't play. I went home, went to bed and no way up at two pm. Cracking day, beautiful day.
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Speaker 13: We actually we actually managed to win it with the Drummond Boys, so they only had me for the high handicap. They didn't basically have to take a shot of mine. We had to form the pro playing with this kind of helped Chris unbelievable, Shane and the boys, they were unreal.
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Speaker 2: It was good fun, good stuff for anyways.
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Speaker 1: David Penberthy and World Goodings five Double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Twenty four minutes to seven. I was actually reading a report out of the United States by the National Bureau of Economic Research there just earlier this month that was detailing the success schools in the United States have had that have banned phones and digital devices. The reporter sententially said that whilst there was greater disruption immediately following the band, when people are just into the new way of life, the number of discipline reactions dropped off, grades improved, and generally there was an massive increase of total well being of students when they made the decision. I whaton if that holds true to for sating Nacious College. You might recall back in August announced they were banning access to digital devices for students up to the year three and restricting them for those up to year nine. Sating Nations today in the news again because they are unplugging this Friday, the supporting Wayne Holdsworth and supporting his Unplugged twenty four movement, which is a day where the idea is you don't don't use social media, just unplug, have a totally digital detops, a digital detox.
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Speaker 3: I think it's so liberating. I haven't used Twitter occasionally. I look at it for search, but I used to be checking all the time. And you see you got a message and you look at it and someone's going, your murdock, scumbag. I'm like, oh, yeah, thanks for that, you know, telling me something I don't know. I just thought, why am I doing this? Why am I doing this? It's ridiculous. That's from Terry Ealy Beach.
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Speaker 2: Go to work and get that kind of feedback ANDREWS. Dace is the dean of student Development at Saying Nacious College and joins us. Now, Andrew, good morning.
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Speaker 10: To you, Good morning, will Day.
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Speaker 3: How are you? We're good things? Andrew. Now, I'm a luddee, I'm an analog guy. I love this idea. Good on you.
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Speaker 10: Yes, I think it's a wonderful, wonderful idea, and it's something that we certainly want to get behind and aligned very closely with our philosophy on being a tech smart school. Certainly not anti tech, but we want to be discerning in our use and we want to support our young students as they learn about how to use it. And I guess the good, the bad, and the ugly of technology and the various apps that are out there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're saying, he's got a great reputation. It's a wonderful school. Some of our good friends over the years at five double A saying ignatious is that alma matera, including former member for Sturt Christopher Pine. How will it actually worked for the kids?
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Speaker 5: Yeah?
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Speaker 10: Well, on Friday, Wayne Holdsworth, some Plug twenty four is really just asking people to unplug from social media. As you were saying earlier, it's about building real well connection and offering alternatives to our youth. I think it's timely this year with the new legislation coming in on December tenth around social media delay and an opportunity for people to find other ways to connect other than using their thumb to death scroll as we've all been guilty of.
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Speaker 3: As you were just saying then, desr Hey Andrew.
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Speaker 2: One of the things that I found really interesting out of this study in the United States, just going back to the band you guys announced in August or the tex Smart approach that you announced at the school was in addition to things like fewer disciplineary issues and improvement in terms of class attention and grades, there were fewer absentee days. It seemed like the entire idea of going to school became more pleasant. Have you noticed that at Sinigi's.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 10: Look, I think anytime that we promote promote, promote connection in the real world's important. And we know that the online world can be a wonderful a wonderful place for everybody, youth and us older people included. But I think for some people it's been a real challenge. It's provided an alternative that's not always a safe place to be, and certainly there are studies and many terrible stories of people who've fallen into that dark hole of the internet and the apps and some of the terrible people that are out there. And building connection and building opportunities for people to be with others in the real world, people of their own age and who they know, is certainly a way of improving their mental health and well being. And having less opportunities to be on and being more focused on their education and their relationships with both their peers and their teachers is a really important thing, and we're seeing some really positive results so far.
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Speaker 3: Will they counter arguments that the school works through Andrew, I know that because this is the blanket restrictions now across the the state school system and phones being zipped up in bags and what have you. But I know that when that was brought in some people said, well, is this a little bit paternalistic? And given that technology is the way of the world, is it better to just teach kids how to manage it rather than restricting it from above? Was that something you sort of went how to look at first?
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Speaker 10: Yeah, Look, that's a really good question, and I think it's important to note that we're trying to educate our students on how to use the technology. Well, we're certainly aware that this is something that's with them forever, and we're seeing rapid change and rapid development in this space. In talking with experts recently in this area, it's hard for everybody to keep up, including people who dedicate their life to this. But we're really talking about it like the legislation is a delay, not a ban, and an opportunity to help raise capable and intentional digital citizens, people who understand what it does and how it works, and so they can be discerning in their use and choice. Of course, we've had students who try to work their way around it back in the days when we were at school. I'm sure both of you tried to find ways around the various rules school or your parents put in place.
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Speaker 3: You need something to smoke behind.
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Speaker 10: Somewhere to hide behind. So yeah, we're certainly trying to find ways to support those students and educate them and help them understand the why behind out our decisions.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely good on and from Satin Nation's College. It's a really important initiative Unplugged twenty four. It's a challenge effectively saying to people, can you stay off social media for twenty four hours? And it's to raise awareness about the Holdsworth case, well, not the wholds Worth case specifically, obviously wone started it, but it's to raise awareness about the sexual exploitation generally. If young boys also often leads to suicide on social media, it's to raise awareness about that and promote safe social media use. Andrew satin Nation's College. Where now this is not just a thought and a feel, a feeld pinion, as they say when it comes to digital use in schools, it's just hard, credible evidence now that it is to the benefit of students.
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Speaker 3: Terry was listening. He sees now, now I've never called you that. Now you haven't, Terry, haven't you?
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Speaker 2: I don't know, sounded awfard, sounded a little Terry es I thought, Hey, this next story is just awful. Angela Web is a Halloween enthusiast. Now I think I'm not a big Halloween person, but I think neighborhoods are the richer for Halloween enthusiasts like Angela, who liked to do decorations. Angela has been the victim now of having the deco stolen not once, but twice, Angela, good morning.
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Speaker 15: To you, Good morning, how are you?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: What have they pinched from you?
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Speaker 16: This time?
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Speaker 15: They took two of the big gargoyles that we have sitting there, and they were a little bit sentimental because they were the replacements for the last gargoyl that got stolen back in twenty eighteen. And yeah, so they were the ones that we managed to find and got lucky enough to get. But now you can't get them anymore. So it's a little bit devastating because yeah, so.
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Speaker 3: It's a blood of sentimental value. And what about how much does a gargoyle set you back? Angela?
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Speaker 15: Those when we bought them, I think they're around two to two fifty each, so it's not a big amount. It's just the fact that you know, they're gone, somebody stole them, and now those two areas are empty, and you know, it's just really sad that we can't have fun without someone in, you know, trying to do something awful.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, which suburb you, Angela Salsbrey downs. Yeah, right, Have you had other stuff pinched as well? Or is it just the gargoyles?
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Speaker 15: Just those two? This time, we didn't sleep very well that the next night. Because we kept listening and watching and making sure that you know, nothing else went. Anything that we thought they could reach over the fence and get, we moved and put undercover. And then we spoke to the neighbor next or, and she's happy to close her gate so people can't come up in her driveway again, because that's where they did. They came up through her driveway and reached over and dislodged them from the bases that they were on, and then took one and then a few hours later come back and did it again.
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Speaker 3: Your house must have become famous in the Salisbury area as being a go to destinations for the kids out there.
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Speaker 15: It is, and all the children wait, you know, they come here after school and they walk and the parents are with them, and they're like, I can't wait till Halloween. I can't wait till Halloween. And they're all so excited. They come here in the evenings because we have it on and we have the gates open so people can come in and look. There's places that they can sit and get photos and just have you know, that time and enjoy it. And they're all so excited for Halloween. So it's really sad that someone has decided they needed to do this, and we do it for the community and for the kids and the families. We don't get anything out of it, and I don't want any thing out of there. Just want them to all have fun, because I'm American and I love Halloween, and I've loved it since I was a kid.
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Speaker 3: So I was going to ask protectedly accent, which.
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Speaker 15: Study Maryland over in near Washington.
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Speaker 3: DC beautiful.
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Speaker 15: Well, I've been here for twenty five years, and when I first started putting Halloween up, there wasn't a whole lot here because Halloween wasn't here back then. So I made a lot of stuff like little ghosts with little foam balls and the fabric, and I hung them into trees and I made a sign that says tricker treaters Welcome, Happy Halloween. And the kids around the school area came up to the door one day and go, what does that sign mean? So I educated it on what that man and what to do. And that Halloween, I had like three or four, maybe five kids come back, and they were all had the They weren't the best outfits, but they took an effort and they came back and I told them what to do. I said, go tell your friends and come back next year. And it just grew until now we've got like three thousand people that come through.
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Speaker 2: You may, single handedly Angela have made Halloween mainstream in South Australia.
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Speaker 15: I think one's the only American over here. So I like to think that all of us Americans try to do something well.
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Speaker 2: It's becomes us. It's become such a normal thing that the kids now look forward to Angela.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Sorry to be talking under these circumstances. HO belief someone finds your gargoyle, or at least the culprity pinched at Angela web, whose decorations are well known in the in the Salisbury area.
00:28:33
Speaker 3: I think if you see anyone walking around in the northern suburbs with a large gargo oyl London to a brick, it's Angela's.
00:28:39
Speaker 2: I think that's probably reasonable. You can close the case on that one.
00:28:44
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast ninety.
00:28:48
Speaker 2: Seven and let's talk about the weather. We'll head to the bureau. Daniel Sherwin Simpson joins us. Daniel, good morning, it looks like it's going to be a bit of a calmer one today.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, good morning. It will certainly be a bit more settle today. We're not really expecting too much in the way of hairy weather in Adelaide for the next two days. Today we've got twenty and a partly cloudy day ahead of us, not too much in the way of wind. Tomorrow will warm up a few degrees. With twenty two we could possibly see a bit of fog about the hills. That should probably be clearer down in the Adelaide plains and in the city. As we move into Saturday, though, that's when the weather starts to take a bit of a turn for the worst again. We're going to start to see showers pretty much possible throughout most of the day out. The real heavier stuff, though, should be coming through in the late afternoon and evening, with thunderstorms developing coming across the Gulf and moving across the Adelaide area through that Saturday evening period. These storms could be pretty gusty at times and bring some decent rainfall. Turtle see if you have a look at the rainfall ranges, We've got a four to twenty five range on that Saturday. If we do see these storms come right over the city area. That's when you'll be getting those higher rainfall turtles up near that twenty five number. These storms could linger a bit into Sunday morning. That should be generally clearing out through by the late parts of Sunday afternoon. But yeah, it's going to be a bit of a repeat of what we formed the last couple of days coming through on the weekend. So definitely some weather to keep watching on them for the weekend ahead.
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Speaker 3: Harvest rocks Saturday night, it's going to be a wet one by the sounds of things. Thank you for that, Daniel, Daniel Sheer and Simpson there from the Weather Bureau.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to say pols and he comestable Kimberly broad joins us. So, Kimberlee. Some arrests have been made over that awful arson at Torrensville.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, so that incident was at about eleven point thirty on Saturday morning. Three suspects had stopped and part their car and the rear car park of the Henley Beach Road business, entering via Gerbois Street. Now we've seen two suspects at that car, one carrying a red plastic Jerry cannon the other Molotov cocktail, and a short time later there was an explosion at the business. Six employees unfortunately we're in the store at the time, with two sustaining burns and subsequently admitted to hospital for treatment. Those three suspects then left in that stolen black Lexus station wagon, colliding with several parked cars on East Street as it fled the scene, and it was later found abandoned in Danby Street, Torrensville later on that night. But at the same time, about midday on Saturday, emergency services were called to a home at Angle Park where a forty year old Paralleli man had reported burn injuries from an alleged barbecue explosion. I believe that's found not to be true, and yesterday investigators arrested that man over that Torrensville high along with a forty five year old Silsbury Northman who was located at Victor Harbor. So both of those men have been charged with arson, four counts of attempt murder and two counts of acts to endanger life. They've been refused to bail and will face court today and investigations continuing regarding that for suspect.
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Speaker 3: Good please work there, Kimberly, a Bok's been arrested breaking in or carry in Zille, South.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 17: This is about one o'clock this morning. We're called to a car park on Woodville Road after a man was seen trying door handles of part cars. The man was detained by a security officer until police arrived at the scene. We found that the man had attempted to gain entry to at least one of the vehicles, causing major minor damage. So that man's been arrested. He's a forty six year old from Woodville West. He's been charged with illegal interference of a motor vehicle and bail to appear in court next month.
00:32:31
Speaker 3: Good work, Send you comfortable, Kimberley broad from Sapol Well.
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Speaker 2: For the first time in ten years, more than six hundred and fifty cub scouts and guides from across South Australia are going to come together at the Woodhouse Adventure Park this weekend starting tomorrow for Cavalry twenty twenty five. Marlene Hazy joins us on the line. Marline. Good morning to you.
00:32:51
Speaker 12: Good morning.
00:32:53
Speaker 3: So this is great, Marline, but why has it been almost ten years since this has happened.
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Speaker 16: It's the style of that to the that is busy issue. And of course then we had COVID in the middle, which did cause some problems. So we had changed some of the ways that we were running the bigger events and they were getting very, very complicated. So the idea of this one was to bring it back to basics and have the youth members or just get in there and have some fun and go across different activities as larger groups instead of as small groups of patrols of people.
00:33:33
Speaker 2: Here, you guys going for volunteers. At the moment, Marline, a lot of volunteer organizations are struggling to find people.
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Speaker 16: We're struggling as well. We are very fortunate that a lot of parents come along with their kids to do scouting. They tend to stay while their children are there and then move off. Some of them just come on as adult helpers and not uniformed leaders. And then there are a large reasonable band of people who put on their uniforms and then stay after their children age out, as well as the events and some of those younger younger people then or quite a few of those younger people then move on to become leaders, whether they take some time off for a little while and then come back when their families start to grow.
00:34:22
Speaker 10: It is.
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Speaker 16: We are able to get volunteers through that way, but not enough to really make sure that we've got we can offer the kids everything that we'd like to.
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Speaker 3: What about the numbers of kids being involved, We will talk about, you know, the scourge of helicopter parenting and people being too worried about outdoor activities these days, unlike the more knock about nineteen seventies when I grow up, Marline, are the kids still getting involved in good numbers? The kids are.
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Speaker 16: Still getting involved. We do have quite a few parents who do struggle with the idea of leaving their youth members or their children in this environment and like to come along as well. They're the ones that do sign up as adult helpers and come along. Some of them are a little bit helicoptery, but a lot of them in there and help as well. So we love to have them along because we need volunteers, and it shows their kids as well that volunteering is good and their parents can volunteer too.
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Speaker 3: No, I like the sound of it. Some of the activities, so there's going to be kids are going to be climbing, The clubs are going to be tackling climbing walls, caving adventures, target sports. That sounds like the sort of stuff that the kids will be massively into.
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Speaker 16: Absolutely it's going to be really exciting. So these are some of those particular activities that you mentioned. We do as standalone activities for the kids as well, where they might do these sorts of things for a whole day or a whole weekend for themselves. But this is a bit of a taste for some of those activities. Those particular activities, navigation challenges, the caving adventures, those sorts of things. There are other activities that we're doing as well. So we've got three different activity zones that all of the kids will be going through. One lot Saturday morning, Saturday afternoon, and then Sunday morning. So the Push Your Limits was the one you were just talking about, Journey to the Edge. We've got another one which is a global adventure, so the cubs will be clubs and guides who will be going through activities set up for different countries. So we've got Japan, Netherlands, Nepal, Mexico, Egypt, so they can go through all these different countries and it's be exposed to some of the cultures or adventures from winning those countries. The other one we've got is time, so we're going to journey through time. So we've got the Nights of Old, we've got a land of Giants, we've got a high speed car racing and which is not really high speed car racing the way it's there, plus plus several other activities.
00:37:05
Speaker 3: Well, it sounds all sounds terrific and it's great to hear that young people are out doing this sort of stuff. Marlene Hazy, the director of Covery for the Scout stick around.
00:37:14
Speaker 2: The Governor General of Australia is not too far away.
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Speaker 1: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 2: But it's up to see them. A good morning to you, Welcome to Thursday and five double a breakfast. Heard to get in sport and every time I do do a double take. There is cricket on at Adelaide Oval today a one day I picked up the.
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Speaker 3: Tires and I thought's Travis Header on the front page headline Act A home crowd will spare on Travis Head to a big score in the second One Day International against India Adelaide Oval. It was at a store I thought was a story about the scheduling and I thought, maybe we've got an Australia Day one day or something. No, it's today, a fifty over match. It's going to be good. Why do they promote these things?
00:37:53
Speaker 2: Well, the ticket sales look pretty good. I was looked on a short time ago and there's not much left. So people are clearly buying the tickets, which makes me think maybe I'm the weird one. But cricket, for me, it feels like of all the sports occupies the weirdest space and having a home one day or today underscores this in us going what if cricket is a Test match against India or England, it feels like the most important sporting event on the calendar.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you do anything like the I think the first three days of the Adelaide Ashes Test are already sold out.
00:38:26
Speaker 2: Almost every other form of cricket feels disposable.
00:38:28
Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: I happened to be on and I was flicking around. But maybe not. Maybe people are to massively into it, or maybe adelaid people just go and support sporting events. We do, We certainly do that. It's amazing that people are going and getting along a little bit later today Matte Abraham's coming up and the Governor General very shortly. Sam Mosten live in the five double A Breakfast studio looking forward to that. Wanted to start though, talking about a story that the Advertiser's broken on its front page with regard to planning restrictions and the removal of them when it comes to apartments, private balconies, private bathrooms and kitchens will no longer be required if developers substitute those for shared spaces, the aim of course being cheaper housing. Will it work? Eight double two three double double is the name you can Texas and the Police Home Care text on. Do you immediately have any reservations about a removal of a requirement for private balconies, bathrooms and kitchens. Peter Calezos is a property expert and property lecturer at Adelaide University and joins us on five double A Breakfast. Peter is, let's start with that first point. The impetus is this will drive down the cost of apartments and provide more rental accommodation. Do you think that will work?
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Speaker 6: If they're smaller places? One assumes that they will cost less whether you want to rent them or buy them. But I've just done some round calculations and for many people, if they're currently renting a one bedroom flat, let's stay in the suburbs of Adelaide, it'd actually be cheaper to buy one of these parts in the city. And in the end, it's in my opinion, it's far better to own your own place than to rent it. So this could be a lovely first step on the property ladder for those people who thought they couldn't do it.
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Speaker 3: For reading some of the commentary online about it, Peter, some people are firing up and saying, oh, this is going to create sort of dogs box student housing. I guess it's important to say it's not going to be compulsory.
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Speaker 2: To live there.
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Speaker 3: You know, you're still going to be able to buy an apartment with a balcony, You're still going to be able to buy an apartment with a kitchen, with your own kitchen. It's just more about having a more diverse suite of offerings in the housing space.
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Speaker 6: That's right. In the end, developers won't build what people don't want, so if there is demand from some sectors, then they will build them. Just coincidentally, I'm in Sydney at the moment, and probably one of the smallest hotel rooms I've ever seen. It's quite nice. It's got light colored walls like colored fiction and fittings relatively high selling, but very importantly lots of natural light with floor to ceiling windows, so even though it's small, it's not nasty and you can make them look nice internally. And obviously it's also got a communal kitchen on the first floor, a lovely cafe on the ground floor.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Look, it may not be for everyone, but for some people that's all they want, or that's all they can afford.
00:41:22
Speaker 3: Well, isn't there that movement in housing? Is it called the small house movement? And did it start in somewhere in Scandinavia or something?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, in northern Europe and moves over to the US and Canada, and it's trying to take off here. But one of the issues we have, in particular with metropolitan councils is they don't want such small homes on relatively large blocks. It's apparent in some of the regional areas around Australia, but not so much in the metropolitan area.
00:41:50
Speaker 3: Why don't the councils want them.
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Speaker 6: Well, they figure it's a waste of space. So either if you want a small house, you need a relatively small block. So we either let people build dwellings on smaller blocks or we don't allow our tiny houses. But this could be a first step towards us. So if we are now allowing smaller than normal apartments with mainly communal facilities rather than your own private kitchen and bathroom, maybe you know that's the next step.
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Speaker 2: Do you think this is part of a trend We're going to see governments at all levels in Bolden to have a more, well at least walk towards the sort of a more laissez faire approach to development, given the political capital that exists in trying to tackle the affordable housing and rental accommodation crisis.
00:42:38
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 17: Sure.
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Speaker 6: Look, housing is a very big component of the economy and very big component of the Australian psyche, and if you look at more mature property markets around the world, people have given up the idea of owning their own home because it's so expensive. But one way that you can make housing less expensive is by either having a smaller home and or on a smaller block. So I think for some people this is a great first step to either move out at home into a rental property or to buy their first home. All right, their first home is not a house, and it doesn't mean that your first home is your final home or dream home. But you know, for many people it's a good start.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, it's interesting stuff. Peter Kalizos, property expert and property lecturer at the University.
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Speaker 2: Of Adelaide eight theable two three double O double is out now you can Texas. On the Police Homecare text lines here before zero eight thirty ninety five, Nathan's not a fan. He says this new development proposal is a stupid idea and in a similar sentiment or been on a different topic, another text says, Cricket Australia having one day is in October is a joke. Keep your thoughts coming through. On the Police Home Care text line, Matt Abraham's gonna have some thoughts for you on the state of politics at the moment. After seven thirty will dissect the spin with him, and very shortly we will have the Governor General. Our first visit from a Governor General to the five double Breakfast studio we've been on air. This will be our third Governor General that we've been on air for David Hurley and Subpeti Cosgrove, who we have interviewed, but not as Governor General. So this is a significant moment coming up. Sam Moss and someone with degree familiarity to Adelade as we lived here for a number of years.
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Speaker 3: I should say too, We've got a lovely letter the other day, a couple of weeks ago now from the Governor, her Excellency Francis Adamson, on the occasion of our tenth birthday together on air Will and I've got it at home on the desk. I meant to bring it in to read it out on air, but if the Governor is listening, very kind of her to take the time to write, and we love the gov. She's great, We do love the gov. And she specifically said what was the word she used, rambunctious. She used a great word in it, rollicking. She said, I'd particularly like to congratulate you on your the rollicking enthusiasm you show every year for the under Drive. Because her Excellency is the patron of both Catherine House and also the Heart Street Center, and she always kicks it off four US six oh five on the Monday that the under Drive starts, and yeah, it's always funny having the Queen's Representative in South Australia, sorry, the King's Representative in South Australia coming on a urging everyone to dig deep so we can buy a whole heap of socks and jocks.
00:45:22
Speaker 2: I think that's an example of the Commonwealth working to maximum efficiency.
00:45:26
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and Wild Goodings five double A Breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Twenty minutes after seven. If you jump on the Facebook and YouTube live stream right now, you could be part of history for the five double A Breakfast to our a certainly iteration of the five double a Breakfast show we have. We're in our third Governor General that we've been on Air four, but this is the first time we've been joined in the studio by the Governor General, Your excellency set Governor General Sam Mostin. Good morning too, Thanks for coming in and making history with us.
00:45:54
Speaker 14: Very happy to make history with you guys.
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Speaker 3: This is so exciting GG because it's been as we all said that we've done a few interviews over the phone. We've had many many conversations with our Governor here at her Excellency Francis Adamson, who we get on like a house on fire with her. But it's great having you here. And you know why you being in Adelaide today, This is a bit of a homecoming of sorts for you.
00:46:15
Speaker 14: Well, when I come to South Australia, it's always the homecoming. There's a big streak of South Australia in me because my mum was an Adelaide girl, born here, went to Adelaide Girls High, Adelaide Uni, met my dad here. She was a librarian and the Weapons Research Establishment in Salisbury and my dad is a dashing young captain, went to borrow a book at the library and the rest is history. They were married very shortly after. And I'm the oldest child of that. And so South Australia, Adelaide, the regions because when we were young we holidayed. When my dad, as you know, served in Vietnam, we came back here and lived with my grandmother in Netlin near Glenelg for a year. I learned to swim in Adelaide. You know, a lot of informative things happened here and Netley Primary same as the treasurer. I discovered last night. So where there's a great alumni from that little primary school. Don't it exists anymore, But it is like coming home or to a place I feel very comfortable with. I understand what it's like to be a South Australian because my mum, right up until she passed a few years ago, she described herself as a South Australian no matter where we'd live, Adelaide, heading down Jelly Road, you know, going to the Orange Spot. You know, these are things that are just burned into my childhood memories and it's always loved your company. Now, yeah, PASTI is the only PASTI is worth eating in the country. It's every other pasty in Australia was compared to a South Australian pasty from the Orange Spot, like it's It's just I feel very comfortable. Of course, great foota state and so foody is one of my big passions and around hat I thought I'd be a bit provocative just to just to get a start. I mean, I love all fully teams and all footballers and all sides, but I am a bit of a tragic Swanye.
00:47:54
Speaker 3: Well you knew each other quite well in Sydney, but when you were on the board of the Swan when they were heading towards their breakthrough flag in two thousand and five, and you were a trail blazer yourself at that period. Becoming the AFL's first female commissioner that it was a big deal.
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Speaker 14: It was a big deal. I always described that as as a huge moment in my life, a preposterous outcome to be asked by Ron Evans, the then president of the AFL if I would serve as the first woman on the AFL Commission and I joined them in two thousand and five and stayed till twenty sixteen, and that period of time saw enormous but we did some big things on the commission in those years. The really positive ones was we established the Sons and the Giants. We started the work on the AFLW competition, and that was an eight to ten year project, and I left in twenty sixteen knowing that we would we'd be seeing the first round of the first season in twenty seventeen, and that was a big deal. We also dealt with some very big issues. You'd remember the Essendon issues and Ben Cousins, and it was a really a lot of very big governance issues. For footy in that decade and I felt very privileged to be there. And now there's four women on the Commission and it's nice to know that we don't have to we have done have to do first on these things.
00:49:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, the King attended the celebration in the UK of the fortieth anniversary of the handback of uber Rug earlier this week. So he made it to Australia house. We expect he's going to make it to Australia anytime soon.
00:49:24
Speaker 14: Well, it was here exactly a year ago. So I hosted him and Queen Camilla for five days in Canberra and Sydney, and they could only have a short visit because he was really on his way to Samoa for the common Worthmansive Government meeting, because he cherishes his role as Head of the Commonwealth and he looks to that role very particularly. But we had five days with their majesties and they wanted to see a very successful, modern, diverse Australia, so we built a program around that with all the defense elements, the ceremonial elements, parliamentary and then big, big community barbecues in Western Sydney. It was a really marvelous I don't know he would want to come back regularly if it could, if we weren't so far away, and his diary permitted. But you know, I suspect that the heir to the throne might come to Australia at some point because I don't have any intel, but I get the sense that now that the king has been well, you can imagine that there are protocols and in order for Prince William to come, his father had to come as monarch first, and he hadn't come. He'd come as Prince Charles many times, but not as the king, so that visit a year ago was his first as the King of Australia and the as King Charles, and the protocol would mean that the Prince William could come on a visit because his father has has done that, and I wouldn't be surprised if at some point the next few years they do come. Princess Anne will be here in November, and that's that's a very special one for me. I met Princess Anne or the Princess Royal in Gallipoli in April, and I was I gave my Anzac Day address from the Glipperium from Anzac Cove and Princess Anne was there for the whole commemory. We had a very good catch up about her work. She must be the hardest working Royal, I think. And she's also the Colonel in Chief of the Royal Corps of Signals in the Australian Army and she's coming to Australia because the corps is celebrating one hundred years. It's the centenary of the Royal Corps of Signals. My dad was a signaler and so my dad's going to come along to the event where the Princess Royal and I will be at a parade, and that's just a lovely, lovely thing. One of the great privileges of this role is I get to bring my family life into it sometimes. My dad meeting the Princess Royal as the Colonel in Chief, as a former colonel in the Australian Army will be very special for a ninety one year old.
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Speaker 2: There's been lots of discussion over the course of this week of the state of the Australian alliance with the United States, obviously with the Prime Minister meeting the President in the White House there. What's your reflection on the strength of the Commonwealth at the moment given an uncertain international picture, and it does seem that Australians are finding comfort in some of those more traditional alliances and relationships.
00:51:56
Speaker 3: At the moment.
00:51:57
Speaker 14: It's a great point will because historically we have been aligned to two big stories in our history, and now we think of ourselves more in this part of the world. We're very proudly part of the Commonwealth. Think that's why the King finds it so interesting that the comnworth nations are typically democratic. They have a belief in the rule of law, belief in the will of the people through parliamentary systems. And the story I always tell is that, and it's even beyond the Commonwealth, is we have one of the mightiest democracies in the world. It holds firm, it does ensure that the will of the people always prevails. I'm part of that as part of an institution that was brought to this country after sixty five thousand years of aboriginal connection and attachment to the continent. Would always shared with us, but these British institutions modified in a very Australian way that I represent as a check and balance on responsible and representative government. People around the world look at us and say, you better cherish what you've got because it's becoming rarer. They look at us as a great, successful nation that was able to introduce migration and welcome refugees. At the end of this year, we'll welcome somewhere the first the one millionth refugee to this country. All part of this incredible story of cultural diversity that sits so neatly on top of the British and First nations establishment of the continent. And I think we don't talk enough about that braided strength that makes us great. I think we look for division as opposed to celebrating. I was in Mongolia recently on a state visit and the President of Mongolia thanks Australia for setting the standard for their democracy, which only began thirty years ago, and half his cabinet and most of the leading intellectuals and public servants in Mongolia were trained at Australian universities through Australian scholarships. And they look at Australia and say, how incredible are you with the nation? And they're the stories I like to share back into Australia to remind us that you know, we may think we're divided, but goodness, we're doing very very well. We're very successful and I'd love to see us telling ourselves more of those stories than of the division ones.
00:53:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good message increasingly polarized world. And how nice to share with our listeners because I must admit I didn't know the Netley Primary connection before. How nice that Netley Primary has produced an Australian head of State. And also reassuring to know that Tom Coots and Tonis is no longer the most prominent graduate of the primary school. He loved that.
00:54:20
Speaker 14: Last night and dinner I was out and he went from being shocked and stunned to then wow, we're alumni.
00:54:27
Speaker 12: The Primary nine.
00:54:28
Speaker 14: I think you showed me the Facebook page for netlik Trim.
00:54:31
Speaker 3: That's excellent. Well, look, it's so nice to have you in the studio, your excellency. Great to see you again after quite some time and enjoy your stay back in what for a long time was your hometown.
00:54:42
Speaker 16: Yeah.
00:54:42
Speaker 14: Well I'm going to the cricket tonight, so go the Aussies and big shout out to the netballers last night that won the Constellation Cup against New Zealand. Yeah, so our netball is doing well cricketers overseas, women cricketers, and tonight we'll see what we can do against India at Laide Oval Excellence. Fantastic, Thanks guys, thanks for coming in.
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Speaker 1: David Penberthie and Will Goodings five Double A Breakfast.
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Speaker 3: I was this is the buck received manifest. You're eating the doors.
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Speaker 13: I tell you about any busses as anyone not standing up the day as a thumb matts.
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Speaker 2: About abam of the five Double A Breakfast studio has an impeccable timing, Mattie. Someone was warned us in after a chat with the premiere. He did so a moment ago with the Governor General leaving the studio. We're worried for a second, matt you might be cross examining her out there. Good morning to you morning.
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Speaker 12: I was getting a I was asking her excellency for a selfie to send to my brother in law Andrew Pridam, chairman of the Swans. Of course she wanted some early intel on on Andrew, so I helped out there.
00:55:47
Speaker 2: Of course.
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Speaker 12: I've known him since he was about before. Anyway, I better not give too much away.
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Speaker 3: I thought you you must instinctively have a pang when you see the lift doors open. And yes, no I am a bit twitch public figure gets out the just started laying into you about the bloom. I'm a little bit twitchy. Now did you bring your pendulum that the trademarked macros pendulum?
00:56:16
Speaker 12: Is there any point in having a pendulum of course, which is a visual representation of the state of play, Malcolm mcath, Look, I could just sketch one up now, like really, this is the latest poll and I heard you guys talking about it earlier in the week when it came out published by In Daily. It's just quite remarkable poll for those who missed it. It's got the Labor Party or mad Anascar's government on the sixty six percent and the Libs on what are they Labour's primary votes forty seven twenty one and any other candidate is nineteen. That sort of reminds me of those buses you can never catch, you know, not in service. So the two parts of preferred vote sixty six to thirty four. And this is look, one of the incredible features and I heard you talking about this. If you take out the Malnowskus factor there, this is an unpopular government. People aren't happy. Fifty two percent of people aren't happy with the way costs of living's being handled. Almost fifty percent of people are n't happy with the algill bloom. On all those sort of key metrics, the government's not traveling. The government without Malnowskers isn't traveling well, but it's not the government without mal Anouskus. So they're sitting on this incredible vote of sixty six thirty four, which really hasn't shifted much since the TiSER I think tyser Pole a few months back, which had roughly the same sitting in the sort of mid to high sixties, and saying on that figure there wouldn't be a metropolitan seat owned by the Liberals, including thens and Tazia's seat.
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Speaker 3: Don't you think the Libs can quipple it out it all they like. But the most damning result, because it actually did happen, was the federal election result. I mean, if you go through looking at all of those federal booths, and if you and I know, you can't overlay them exactly on state booths, don't you think though looking at if that's the approach you take, and bearing in mind the federal Liberals no longer have a single suburban electorate in the entire in the entirety of the Adelaide planes. You know, you can drive from Gaula to Gula without going through a Liberal seat.
00:58:30
Speaker 12: They got very few in Australia.
00:58:32
Speaker 3: So that election happened with Alba's leader. The next state election happens with Malleya's leader, exactly.
00:58:39
Speaker 12: So if you look at this is what I've been thinking about. The federal election was an effective landslide for labor where you had an unpopular government, the Albanesa government with an unpopular leader Anthony Alberanzi on the Poles. People didn't like him or Dutton, and they didn't like the Libs, so you had none didn't like that, No, they really didn't like done, but they didn't they weren't in love with Anthony Albaneza either on polling. So you had a you know, in inverted comma as an unpopular leader and an unpopular government with a low primary vote was in the thirties, I think, with a landslide, so he you've got you know, I don't think it's an unpopular government here. Frankly, even though you know that the fifty two percent of people aren't happy with the cost of living. I think it's it's a popular government. I wonder by a popular leader, what's the lowest that the number is ever going to get? If you ask people, is the government doing well in cost of living? Yeah, what's the floor of that number? That's right, everything's going everything's going great.
00:59:41
Speaker 3: It's wonderful.
00:59:41
Speaker 2: So just just to give some context of this discussion, and this is some small bad news that the Libs locally at the federal election that bet which you're talking in South Australia, on primary votes it was thirty eight point three percent labor twenty eight point four to the Liberal Party. So the performance of the state Liberal Party going to this pole is on primary votes seven percent lower than the federal Libs, who got absolutely trounced. The two party preferred an essay was fifty nine point two to forty point eight. This is sixty six thirty four like they got trounced. Here, we're going to have to come up with a new word for what is going to be done to the party if if this poll is replicated on an election day and the other thing we're close to and I might have to revise this for myself. Speaking of natural flaws. I would have thought this would be about the floor of the Liberal Party vote, like if you just didn't turn up for four years, just didn't exist. I still reckon about I would have thought more than one in five people would vote for the Liberal Party because they'd be rusted on it's their natural ideological resting point.
01:00:37
Speaker 3: We can it.
01:00:38
Speaker 2: Could you imagine actually being lower than twenty one percent. That's hard to fathom.
01:00:43
Speaker 12: It is hard to fathom. But you'd have to ask you a question, why would anyone be voting for the Liberal Party?
01:00:48
Speaker 3: I had the market.
01:00:49
Speaker 12: I mean, you have a look at this week, okay, and now I know these are former Liberal MPs. So you've got Troy Bell, he's in the big house, hopefully not sharing a cell with somebody called Bubba. You've You've got uh and these of course are being defended in court. He've got Nick McBride, former Liberal MP now was independent in the Southeast, more on charges, you know, related to allegations of domestic violence, again which he denies and is going to contest. You've got Fraser Ellis coming up. I think there's a cloud hanging over him legally with the living away from home allowance expenses, et cetera. And they're coming back to Troy bell as Well's you know, that's adding to his fun So you look at that, and and and then you've then you've got sort of David Spears. So he's been he was convicted very serious charges. You look at the former Liberal leader. You look at that and think, well, okay, you might say, well that left the Liberal Party. They're independent. It was a bit like the rebrand the X on Valdeers, isn't it. I mean everyone knows that that's what that causes. That's the ship that caused the oil spilled. Don't know, you could call him Popeye, it wouldn't matter. And brand is so badly damn it.
01:02:12
Speaker 3: I don't well, if they come back to the Libs, that can offset whatever embarrassment they suffer in suburban Adelaide. Perhaps maybe I just think, look everything you just said that, Matt, like they're all times when and particularly Spears, and we saw what happen in the Black by election, and now like you know, you say, what at the federal level, what have there been The two big headlines this week, will Barnaby Joyce join One Nation? Susan Lay's completely unfathomable position on that zero when when when you when people listen to point five of a second of the headline on the news, if they get point five of a second of spears drug charges will form a liberal and Pete Troy, that's right, Barnaby, like you just go ravel exactly.
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Speaker 12: I mean, we like to think that everybody you know listens, you know, in a linear way, and you know, it's a big thing in radio. People often say, how can my ratings went up when my number of listeners went down. There's a thing called time spent listening where you can have actually less listeners. But if they listen, this is getting into arcane territory. If they listen longer than your figures go up. I used to love that. When they went down, we used to blame AM. But in the people watching news services don't sit like unless you're a retired baby boomer, you don't sit there and watch the entire news service. You know, people are making dinner for the kids, they're sort of washing lunch boxes, you know, the little kids in the bath whatever, and they're getting little grabs. And as you said, though, you don't need much of a grab to find out that both federally and at state level, libs are a cockcase. This This is Greg Sheridan. He had this article in The Australian on the weekend. I thought it was a really interesting article no one has ever described. I don't think Greg Sheridan is sort of a mad lefty, but he's saying, note to libs, free market is a tool, not a god. It gives them some very good advice. But this is what he says he talks about. In my nearly fifty years of writing about politics, among other things, three of the most effective opposition politicians I've encountered, especially in recent decades were Abbott Rudd and Josh Rodenberg. This is what he says about them, and I think you would apply this locally. Each, like all of us, had his downside. But one thing they had in common was that they started off each day at the crack of daunt, loaded with energy, went hard all day and much of the evening, dropped exhausted into a brief slumber late at night, and emerged again next morning energize a bunny like, wanting to talk on any radio station that would have them, contribute op ed articles, devour policy research, home new lines, of attack, attend or create any community event, dream up gimmicks for the media, and so on. Now that's his assessment over fifty years of watching federal leaders. Think you could apply that to Jay Weatherill, Mike Ran, Peter maul Nauskus. That's that's how they were in opposition. That's how driven they were in opposition. Now I don't know how driven Vincentazi is. I don't know what time he gets up, I don't know what time it goes to bed. But you just don't get the impression from watching him that he's a Juriselle Bunny of politics.
01:05:28
Speaker 3: I don't anyway.
01:05:30
Speaker 12: You know how energy energizes the opposition, you.
01:05:34
Speaker 3: Know, I mean David Spears would say he wanted my job, so if he wanted my job, it was incumbent on him to perform well when he took it. But I just think, you know, the party, it just sort of looks like it's just drifted around so much that it was like, well, we had Spears as the stop gap leader, and now we got rid of him because of his behavioral problems, so now we need to stop gap leader number two. I mean the Times Yesterday future stars at the Liberal Party I mean, how did that make you feel You're already doing there's no thing you had ten of your left.
01:06:08
Speaker 2: But they did a labor one too, to be fair, and that's what that was, well exactly part you know the other day, I think you mentioned Tony app and Kevin rud very good media performance. Yes, they cut through. Well, it's one thing to host the press commage. You can call all the media up, you can get them there, you can put out your press release. If you're not saying anything interesting in any interesting way, no one's going to care and you might as well have not done it exactly. And I think they get caught in that space.
01:06:38
Speaker 12: Ah yeah, I mean Tony Abbott now he cuts through better than right now, Susan Lee. These are little grabs he does with the Australia Institute. He's talking about, well, look they back down on this unrealized capital gains on your super but they're coming after you home.
01:06:59
Speaker 3: You know that. That's it.
01:07:00
Speaker 12: That's Jim Charmers as a gent This is Tony Abbott saying this. That's Jim Chalmers's real agenda. He wants a wealth tax and the Greens want a wealth tax. I've made that know so if they don't do it this term, don't worry. They'll come after next to him. So that's how you run a scare campaign. It doesn't have to be right, just as just scare people.
01:07:21
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and Will Gooding's five Double a Breakfast.
01:07:25
Speaker 2: Five minutes to Wake Matt Abrahm with us in the five double a Breakfast studio and it's stun to write some spin.
01:07:31
Speaker 12: Matt, Yes, time to get into some spin. And I look, obviously the Kevin Rudd humiliation, was it really a humiliation?
01:07:44
Speaker 3: Well?
01:07:45
Speaker 12: It was coming, wasn't It was a long time coming. But you've played that.
01:07:47
Speaker 3: I think we all know that. I think if that if Rudd was given an opportunity in advance, this is the way it's going to play out. I reckon he would have gone, I'll take it. Yeah, anything, And.
01:07:58
Speaker 12: Isn't it a dark demonstration of Albanzi who we often think, you know, it's a bit for aest gump like and just sort of stumble through life and sort of leans up everything. Oh you know, someone gave me some shares in an orchard apple, you know, one less thing to worry about all that sort of stuff.
01:08:18
Speaker 3: It's it's sort of.
01:08:19
Speaker 12: How he sort of almost backs into these situations and sort of comes out.
01:08:23
Speaker 3: Smelling the roses. It's just sort of bizarre.
01:08:27
Speaker 12: But anyway, so let's leave him line. This is Barnaby Joyce, who's rumored to be leaving National Party, then perhaps contesting a Senate seat for One Nation, and then perhaps taking over from Pauline Hanson, none of which he's confirming nor denying. But this is Barnaby on Sunrise.
01:08:45
Speaker 18: It's amazing. Let's just take it down a step. I have not I have not joined one nation. I have not actually, at this point in time, resigned from the Nationals. Well, join my nation. Look, and I'm not going to be I'm not going to be salami sliced.
01:08:58
Speaker 14: I might.
01:08:59
Speaker 18: I'm thinking about becoming a compare on Sunrise?
01:09:04
Speaker 3: Why not?
01:09:06
Speaker 12: What is salami slice?
01:09:08
Speaker 3: Math? No, I have no idea.
01:09:11
Speaker 12: Yeah, too thin, you know, get there by, you know, slowly slicing the salambia.
01:09:17
Speaker 3: I don't know.
01:09:18
Speaker 12: Tanya Pleperseka was the other person on the panel, just sitting there going, what the heck? Keep talking Barnaby.
01:09:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like he's enjoying it too much, this whole speculation, doesn't Yeah.
01:09:27
Speaker 3: Of course it's so destructive, being so self indulgent.
01:09:32
Speaker 12: Six out of ten for Barnaby with salami slice matts. Now we've got three mayors from Adelaide, one from Mitcham I think the onkle Pringer mayor correct and jan Loo Max Smith the Adelaide mayor, all heading you know where they're going.
01:09:48
Speaker 3: Rio and apparently Baby.
01:09:53
Speaker 12: I think this is her second trip. Jane Loo Max Smith os to try and get the cop thirty conference here. I don't think any of them would have any impact at all, and ratepayers should really be asking questions about it. But when it comes to global warming, and this is from Jane Lo mack Smith's own Facebook page, you know a lot of people they're worried about their houses getting washed away, cliffs collapsing. If you're on a little island in South Pacific, you know your whole village getting swept out into the sea, or these little straw huts. This is how you know. The Lord mayor from the Adelaide City Council North Adelaide type her main fear about global warming.
01:10:31
Speaker 19: And deeply concerned about our capacity to survive as a city unless we keep the temperatures down. People may be unable to walk to the shops, not because it's too far, but because it's too hot.
01:10:51
Speaker 3: The double plugs have melted.
01:10:54
Speaker 2: Some grim pictures of the future of the planet have been painted, but nonelike you will be able to make the trick to David Jones on North.
01:11:01
Speaker 12: Terrence, I'm sorry, but out of Hackerman PERILOUI I think that least to your worries has not been out of walk to the shops those who haven't been firebombed. Sorry, I just couldn't get over that one. But anyway, ten out of ten good on your bat pleasure, beautiful stuff.
01:11:31
Speaker 1: But David Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
01:11:35
Speaker 18: Look and I'm not going to be I'm not going to be salami flies.
01:11:38
Speaker 2: They're surprisingly big offers at hey Day, like the two Sons from thirty nine ninety ninety drive Away.
01:11:44
Speaker 14: Visit your participating here on Day Dealer Today.
01:11:47
Speaker 3: David penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
01:11:51
Speaker 2: People scratching their heads at the turn of phrase by Barnaby Joyce are not going to be salami sliced on the police offers.
01:11:56
Speaker 3: A reference to the time he fell into the garden bed car. He looked like it's been completely salami.
01:12:03
Speaker 2: Maybe someone here says I says, I think he meant meat in the sandwich you know is in you know which? Between two political parties. I guess if you've got a compelling explanation for what salami sliced means. When Barney B. Joyce was talked about he won't commit to joining one nation of quitting the Nationals, we'd love to hear your theory because everyone's trying to work it out. Eight double two three double a double. I is the another you can textus to on the police home care text line? Is it before zero eight thirteen ninety five. Big thanks to Jim for calling us a short time go to all. Letis that Prospect Road blair Athole blocked in both directions. A bus and truck have collided. Emergency services are on the scene and cleaning up a bus and truck. You don't see that every day, so Jim, thank you for that. We'll try and get more information on that very shortly. The other thing that's happening is there's been a road rage incident between a bus and a cyclist near War Memorial Drive. Hayden Nelson has seen it all and joins us on five Double A Breakfast from Sunrise and seven News.
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Speaker 3: Hayden, good morning to you, morning guys.
01:13:01
Speaker 2: So what did you say?
01:13:03
Speaker 20: It was what I heard first, will So we were standing here being preparing for our life crossing to Sunrise when I hear out of the courner of my ear just this very loud verbling between a cyclist and a bus driver. This is on the corner of Warm Oil and driving King William Raids. So we're just preparing to talk about the ODI and then so we turned the camera around it and what you see is just wild scenes. The cyclist has put his bike in front of the bus to try and get ahead of it to take off. Well that's what he's saying, and the bus driver has basically started to try and nudge him out of the way by pushing.
01:13:39
Speaker 5: Him with the bus.
01:13:41
Speaker 3: So that's kidding.
01:13:42
Speaker 20: Damaged the bike and he's nudged him for a good maybe minute or so before they've just he's gotten out of the bus. This driver he's grabbed the bike, thrown it away. The bike's damaged.
01:13:54
Speaker 3: Kidding.
01:13:54
Speaker 20: What's happening into the lead up to this we didn't witness, but we do know. We did speak to this bus. We did speak to this cyclist. The other thing is the bus driver then just drove off, so he's nowhere to be found and the cyclist is still here waiting for police to come. But his version of events is that the bus dangerously overtook him. He had a few words to him, the bus driver said something back to him, it all flared up, and then this has happened, which could have been really dangerous. Really, given this is such a busy intersection, it's lucky that this cyclist is okay. These bikes probably right off if you can ride bikes off, and that bus driver's nowhere to be found.
01:14:35
Speaker 3: So Hayden was at a public transport bus, a government bus.
01:14:39
Speaker 20: No it wasn't, and it was a private coach. It was a Grant's private coach. So it had that logo on the side. Whether or not it's a contract or whatever, but that is the logo on the side of the bus.
01:14:51
Speaker 3: Wow.
01:14:51
Speaker 20: Yeah, very busy with plenty of witnesses around. So there were other cyclists here who were trying to intervene. There was definitely a bit of an argie bargie between them and the driver as well. Sort of everyone trying to cool each other down, but it didn't really work. And at the moment we're standing the over waiting for police to rock up because I'm sure they're keen to get both parties version of events, particularly a cyclists, and then maybe try and find that bus driver as well, if he hasn't tried to call into police himself. But I can imagine it's pretty interested in having your word.
01:15:24
Speaker 2: You're going to have to provide a witness statement. I reckon, mate, Yeah, you've become the story.
01:15:32
Speaker 20: And we've got the pictures as well, so see that on seven News throughout the day. They're quite extraordinary, good stuff.
01:15:38
Speaker 3: Thank you, A story no cyclist can afford to miss.
01:15:41
Speaker 2: That's how believable, That's what you'd say, nudging the bike along. That's just unhinged behavior.
01:15:49
Speaker 3: Has a bit of anger issue, doesn't he?
01:15:51
Speaker 2: Like, does any conduct leading up to that?
01:15:53
Speaker 3: What do the cyclist do? Anything? Did he? But even if he did, he just spit on the window or something. Who knows? Sure?
01:15:59
Speaker 2: Can get you ready use your vehicle to sort of forcibly move people out the way? Can you less their extinction of advantage in a well, yeah, that's true. Not advocating that. No, just jokes, just jokes. Calm down, they've got a good sense of human of those people, don't enough. Hey on the police get text line, Andrew says, I think Barnaby when he said salami slicing means a lot of people chipping away at him with constant speculative questioning. Someone else here says salami slicing is a management term meaning breaking large tasks into smaller manageable parts. Haven't heard that one. No, They're go to a lot of management meetings.
01:16:34
Speaker 3: We don't we Well, the Property Council obviously, on the eve of an election, we're going to see a lot of wish lists. We're going to see a lot of blueprints coming out from the various different industry organizations over the coming months. As South Australia goes to the polls next March, the Property Councils is headed ready set grow, which in the current climate, thinking back to the text we got yesterday from Tina in Mitchell Park about population, about immigration, it might be a hard sell in the current environment. Well, that is not going to deter our next guest, Bruce Gta, who is the executive director of the Property Council of South Australia. Bruce, good morning and thank you for joining us. Mate. As I just alluded to, is it a hard sell in the current climate trying to make an economic argument for increasing the population of South Australia.
01:17:27
Speaker 21: I think on the face of it, when you consider some of the protests that we've seen in recent times, you might think that can bo But if you look at the statistics, in the next thirty years, people aged eighty or older in South Australia is forecast to explode by one hundred and forty six percent. So if you think that the state balance sheet is struggling to keep up with health expenditure, when you consider the fact if we don't increase our taxpayer working age base, that problem will get exponentially worse. So it's not just about flooding the state with people. Absolutely not, but it certainly is about getting the workforce capacity required one to look after elderly people, but also to build some of these major infrastructure projects from Children's Torrents, Darlington orcus that the state has in front of it. So it's not easy. And if infrastructure doesn't keep up, if housing continues to be a problem, and of course the general public gets disgruntled, but we've got solutions in our platform for those issues as well.
01:18:46
Speaker 3: Do you think that's howth Australians have a sort of realistic sense of what constitutes urban sprawl and overcrowding Because I see, you know, there was a drama that we're on for years on Only Road involving I think it was a five story apartment that was right on Only Road. It wasn't in the back streets. It was on a busy street corner near an audi supermarket where there's a chicken shop. There's a big pub there, the Cremorn Great Pub, and some of the locals would have thought that they were trying to build, you know, some sort of eighty story skyscraper the way they carried on.
01:19:26
Speaker 21: Look, I've set it before and I'll say again, cities are not museums. They need to evolve, they need to modernize. I had the privilege of attending the opening of Adiato O'Connell Street Jamie mcclerk, Deecutive Chairman of Commercial and General Finally a developer who was ready to put extensive capital of theirs on the line to get that development built in North Adelaide, and you know, we were heartened by some of the words of the Premier set in his speech, saying you know there will be naysayers, and there always has been naysayers. But just like there are naysayers on Adelaide Oval redevelopment, well I'm sure they're enjoying the footy there today. Just like there will be nay sayers on live golf coming into the city, the government making a golf course an even better golf course. They'll be welcome to attend to live golf in future. And just like there'll be nathayers on increased height on corridors, on the road O'Connell Street, Greenhill Road with the twenty storyteller there. There'll be naysays all the time. Guys, we know that. But what we also know is people love good amenity. People love great restaurants and nice cafes, and those things are only viable if you have the footfall and the customer base to support those enterprises, and that comes with smart infeel and densification. The government's real job here is improving the infrastructure public transport roads to ensure that the quality of life we all enjoy we continue to enjoy and that requires planning, good planning, and that requires investment.
01:21:10
Speaker 2: Bruce. When the Malnowskis govern announced their Greater Adelaide Regional Plan, they said that the population of Adelaide by twenty fifty will have increased by six hundred and seventy thousand people. Does that number sound right to you? Would you like to see it higher?
01:21:27
Speaker 21: Well, I think it needs to be higher. And if you look at the twelve months of twenty twenty four, that's the most recent data we have New South Wales, Queensland, WA and Victoria, their combined population increase was four hundred and thirteen thousand, eight hundred people. South Australia, Northern Territory, APP and Tasmania grew by a total sum of thirty two thousand. There is a complete you know, we're not keeping up with population growth and we're coming off on life or bays. So South Australia really has an opportunity to turbocharge their population growth without negatively impacting people's lifestyles. If the investment in infrastructure keeps up with that population growth, that's the real challenge, and that means there's some hard decisions that need to be made. Do you spend fifteen billion dollars on a tunnel or do you spread that money out to improve public transport for more people across different parts of Greater Metropolitan Adelaide. Do you grow the economic base large enough so that you can fund a tunnel as well as more public transport for others around Greater Metropolitan Adelaide. So there's some growing pains to be had, some decisions to be made, But we think with smart densification that not only do you get the economies of scales that improve enter and people's lives, you also can ameliorate the booming house prices.
01:23:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that would be one of the clear benefits. More housing would logically suggest that the prices would start coming down. You would think you would hope. Bruce's the executive director of the Essay Property Council. Thank you for joining us this morning.
01:23:25
Speaker 2: As you forecast a tough sell a bigger population in Australia at the moment.
01:23:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the thing is to think about the places where it's worked. Well, who is there anyone out there who gets misty eyed thinking about what Brompton used to look like? Is there anyone who's going to miss having things like the cavenous old stationary building there on Port Road. When it's going to be replaced with some really cool apartments that have got good restaurants, cafes and bars downstairs, Well that's going to look good. It's going to look really good. Things like that are actually cool.
01:23:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think people we'll only hear Bruce's headline and not hear the detail. The caveat was around appropriate infrastructure and the services to support a growing population. It wasn't population in isolation, which is what we've seen when it can go bad the other place.
01:24:17
Speaker 3: The aging figure, one hundred and forty six percent growth in people aged over eighty like that is whatever you think about population, the age profile of this state, and we're already seeing it now because it's the hardest state to get a spot in age care because we're already above the national average, which is why over the road three floors of the Pullman Hotel are now hospital for people who can't get into age care.
01:24:42
Speaker 2: All right, keep your thoughts coming through it. Before zero eight thirteen ninety five ten, you're sent through a thesis on the Salami question. I'm going to read that in the break and see if we can pull some of that apart the salami question, of course, if you're just due to good being. Barnaby Joyce's reference in an interview on Sunrise about being army sliced as he was being questioned about his political allegiances. But we'll get to that very shortly. Plenty still to come, keep calls coming in eight double two three double o double Oh.
01:25:10
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and World Goodings five double a breakfast.
01:25:14
Speaker 2: Twenty six minutes after the Education Minister Blair Boyer has coming from for some heat for handing out lollibags at a school community Fate last weekend. When the Education departments write by Food and Drink Safety Stands list sweets has what they call a red two food that should not be supplied, provided or sold to students.
01:25:35
Speaker 3: Lolligate, lolligate. They're calling it lolligate. Oh, we're calling it lolligate.
01:25:40
Speaker 2: And he starts with lollis. Wead as to day and the Education Minister Blair boy joins us. Now, Minister, good morning.
01:25:45
Speaker 21: To you, Good morning gentlemen.
01:25:47
Speaker 3: Now we're having trouble keeping track of where the Malanowskis government stands on these things, mister Boyer, because only six months ago we're ripping into Chris pick theon over him trying to ban ham and salami, which he vehemently denied. Now you given away sweeties.
01:26:02
Speaker 8: It's amazing, isn't it, Lollygate. I've got to say I was shocked at the response from some people. I mean, it's a school and church fate on a Sunday that the school runs once a year that I go to as the local member who represents the area, give away a little lolli bag. Ha's got about five lollies in it, like a lollipop and a mentoss and a snake, you know, just to support the day and be there. And next minute you've got even the South Australia Liberal Party, you know, ripping into me, including a couple of their MPs who I think like the kind of you know, characterize themselves as the anti woke brigade, saying that I shouldn't be doing this. I mean, I'm amazed that that's where we're at, that you can't do something like that on a one off kind of school fate to support a school and a church on a day where they do put things on for kids where they can have a treat an ice cream, a doughnut, fried potato stick. On the logic of the South Australia Liberal Party. You know that's all gone and then you're serving up buck, wheat and kale.
01:27:03
Speaker 2: Is it the issue less that people don't think you shouldn't be able to do it? It's that the restrictions on parents are overly they're overly restrictive and onerous these days. When it comes to what you put in a lunch box, well.
01:27:14
Speaker 8: I mean that is only guided so and you're right, we went through all this before, you know, around fairy bread and comparents put fairy bread in their kids lunchbox if they want, and I can tell you they absolutely can. The right black guide is there for public school canteens around what they can have and what they can't has, and it's guidance to parents. But we're talking here about a community fate for a school in church. I just honestly surprised me that that's where we're sort of at as a society now where that is something that will generate such outrage from some people to hand that across. But when you say generally taken aback.
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Speaker 3: But to Will's point, though, Minister, when you say some people, I mean set the party politics to one side for now, because it was actually some parents who complained about it, saying, well, on we're told to have you know, no wraps, no wrapping, no plastic wrapping on foods that we put into our kids lunchboxes. I know you say the guidelines, but there are some schools that can get quite bulshy about it. And if you slip some tiny teddies into your bag, you're almost persona and on grafta.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and I accept that there's probably been some instances where that has happened, and I don't support that. Parents are free to put tiny teddies in their kids lunchbox if they wish. The right Bykee guide is there as a guide for parents. They get to decide what's in their child's lunch box, and I totally support that. And in terms of the public school system, it's there to decide what canteens can then can't have on you know, the Monday to Friday of a school week. But here we're talking about something. You know, there's a kind of time on a tradition, the old school fate, and an opportunity once a year for that community to put something special on jumping castles, you know, chance to throw a wet sponge at the principle and raise the money of the school, have an ice cream or a donut or things like that. But we've generally taken aback that we send them more.
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Speaker 3: For some parents and.
01:29:07
Speaker 8: Certain South Australia Liberal Party, we've moved so far that that is something that they feel. Even the Education minister there as the local member of parliament support it shouldn't be doing.
01:29:17
Speaker 3: Blair Boy, the Education Minister, thank you for that. The point that the Libs were making, Heidi Girolamo said it was quote outrageous that mister Boy would flow out his own department's rules. That is true. I don't know why. If I was running the education apartment, I just walk into the lunch box advisory squadron and get a bit sort of elon musk on them and say, look, I'm not entirely sure why any of you are here. We don't need to treat parents like babies. We're going to tear up the bloody guidelines parents and feed their children whatever they want, because most of them will do the right thing.
01:29:46
Speaker 2: You just send them the email what have you achieved this week?
01:29:48
Speaker 15: Well?
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't sack them. I just say just the email. We're going to move you into this new thing we call the literacy unit, not the writing guidelines about how chips in it. Excessive consumption of potato chips might turn you into some sort of fatty bumbalada like nanny state nonsense.
01:30:09
Speaker 2: We might also try to get you into the Weather Bureau's department that runs their digital, their website. The feedback has been vicious. This morning. We're gonna be speaking with an expert in this area after eight to thirty tray get a sense of what the functionality might be, what the reasons might be, and whether people are just going to take some time to adjust, because right now, and I'm gonna say I'm one of them, people are finding it a huge downgrown.
01:30:33
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five Double a Breakfast, nineteen.
01:30:38
Speaker 2: Minutes two nine. We are hosting a three year old birthday party at our house on Sunday this week because it was Rosy's birthday on Monday, and I theme dinosaurs. She's obsessed with dinosaurs, so it's good. Yeah, she's obsessed at the moment.
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Speaker 3: So that your your original idea. Indiana Paces didn't. We're getting a green lighters. We're getting there. It's a slow burn. It's all party.
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Speaker 2: But because the part he was coming up yesterday, I wanted to log onto the Weather Bureau's website to check what the weather was going to be. Went to the website and genuinely thought, oh, they've been hacked and the site's been replaced by a sort of fake, cheaply knocked up version that's going to try and fish my details or flood me with bogy advertising like you sometimes see where legitimate organizations get their sites taken down or they're the subject of nefarious activity. So I went online. I thought that one if this is a story, googled it. I went on social med and found out that in fact, this was a deliberate design choice. The website had been changed, and people hated it. There was almost a universal dislike, although Bobby texted us earlier saying Bobby likes the new design and now, look, there is when everything changes, there is a degree of adjustment period, especially something that had become as known as the Weather Bureau's website. But it does seem a stark design choice compared to where it's been previously. And then people have got questions about the functionality as well, so lots of feedback coming through on the Police Homecare text on what we wanted to do too, though, was chat with an expert in this area to get a sense of what they thought of it, what the ideas behind it were, and whether this is just a passing phase. We'll all get used to it. And for that we've got Dan Monheide on the line, the chief c X think are at think a Bell a creative group. He joins us on five to blaw breakfast now born do you Dan?
01:32:26
Speaker 5: Good morning guys, how are you?
01:32:27
Speaker 3: We're good? Thanks, Dany. Just to clarify from the start so this doesn't get embarrassing your company, Thinker Bell not responsible for the redesign of this website.
01:32:36
Speaker 5: No, not responsible for this one. I'm afraid.
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Speaker 3: I don't think you should be afraid. I think you should be relieved given the given the public reaction to it. So Dan, when a client like the Bomb comes along and says, look, we want to do a refresh, how fraught is it? Because I think the thing is with with anything but it like you know, when you when your iPhone upgrades overnight, people sort of get used to things, don't They.
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Speaker 5: They absolutely do, And I mean I could see people are certainly not happy about this, and that makes sense. People are wired to hate change. We like things that are familiar and safe and comfortable, and any change to something that we use on a regular basis is usually met with some sort of outrage. This is maybe slightly larger than usual, but it's what you'd expect.
01:33:22
Speaker 3: But there's good change in bad change, isn't there. I mean, there's new coke, there's vegemite two point zero, There's things that happen that are just you know, crap.
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Speaker 5: This is true, and look, sometimes it's really hard to tell it, sort of like you know, trying to work out who's going to win a marathon at the five kilometer mark. The initial response is almost always negative. I think people forget back. In two thousand and six, Facebook rolled out something called the Newsfeed, and people lost their absolute minds about it. There were petitions, there were protests, there were people saying we will never use this website again. And all it took was a couple of months of people to realize, ah, this is actually pretty good.
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Speaker 17: Now.
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Speaker 5: We couldn't imagine most of our websites and social media sites without it. So sometimes it just takes a couple of weeks or a couple of months for people to relearn how to use something, and then they can't imagine going back to any other way.
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Speaker 2: Have you looked at the new website, Dan, Were you familiar with the old one when it came to the Weather Bureau? And are the choices that have been made that makes sense to you that you can sort of see what they were trying to do and why they've gone in that direction.
01:34:24
Speaker 5: I mean, it's always hard to sort of with hindsight workout how something ended the way it did. What people often don't appreciate is for projects like this, these are usually years in the making, and you have so many stakeholders involved. Of course, you've got customers, and I'm sure they did lots and lots of testing with customers or with users. But you've got it considerations, you've got accessibility considerations, you've got brand considerations, and so it's hard with any one perspective to say whether something's great or not great. There are some things that are nice about it, there are some things that are challenging. I find the ability to work out whether it's raining horror morning a lot harder than it should be.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is kind I mean, you know that being too fine upon it is kind of the whole point you go to the website.
01:35:07
Speaker 3: It's true, It's true.
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Speaker 5: One of the things you think about when you're designing experiences like this are the jobs to be done. So when somebody interacts with this, what job are they trying to do? And for a lot of us, whether you're just a regular person or a fisherman or a cyclist, a lot of us are having a kid's party on the weekend. You just want to know who's going to rain on nine. To be confronted with something that says, well, there's a fifty percent chance of two milimeters, there's a twenty five percent chance of four milimeters. Fuck, take me back to year ten.
01:35:35
Speaker 3: Math.
01:35:36
Speaker 5: I don't know rating one job.
01:35:39
Speaker 3: To the guys exactly one job. We've got to text too, Dan. And this might be something that would probably not have even occurred to the people who redesigned it, nor to anybody at the the bomb, But one of our listeners, Shane, says that the changes that they've made with the colors have now made the relaunched version of the website impossib to understand for people who are color blind. So one added downside to add to the long list of grievances that.
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Speaker 5: Look, I mean, there are lots of parts of the world that are set up well for people who are colorblind. I happened to be one of them. And you find those bathroom doors where all you have is a tiny little green or red circle to that's a very small circle usually in the dark, and to two colors that have had for people with color blindness to tell the difference between. But that's certainly something that should have come up in what we call accessibility testing and making sure that people with all sorts of different visual impairments can still access and that's especially important for something like the Bureau of Meteorology, which is an organization that's a big, big part of it public service as well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, amazing, that's great, Dan, really interesting analysis. Then on height their chief sex think at Thinker, Bill reminded me when I was working at news dot com, the website we relaunched the whole website because the website, like traditional newspaper websites, it operated in a laptop screen format. You know, it was a landscape rectangle and I sat there with these web designers. We had all this data showing because news dot com readers, most of them aren't advertiser readers, the Night Herald Sun readers, the young people who just go, oh, I just get my news from the site called news dot com. So they've got no newspaper tradition. You know. They're the people under the age of forty who never got the paper home delivered or anything. And it's like, we've got this awesome url news dot com dot au. So they don't associate with the newspaper. And where do they read their news. They read it on public transport, on their phone, or they read it on their lunch break on their phone. So why is the website a rectangle lying on its site. It should be a thin rectangle that looks exactly like an iPhone. So news dot com you ping, and it's designed for the ninety percent of people who only ever read one of these things. We rea launched, the people went mental. Six months later we made it the number one news website in Australia. Ya, so is everyone? How good is this? It just slides down. You get three little rectangular puff boxes on every page. There's a story I want to read about Kim Kardashi, and there's something I want to read about the war in Ukraine. As easiest website in Australia to use, because we said to the designers laptops do not exist. That's right, we want people reading it of this website.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure we will get used to the new Bureau website, but I at first blush can't see the user friendly justification that you guys made at news dot com vowed this one has been and the problem is they're replacing something that own reflection looks really classy. You can still see the old one. Rig dot bomb dot gov dot au was a text we received earlier and I've just been flicking between the whole just nice. You see the entire map of Australia, the satellite image overlaid, and it's a classy looking website. And the new one, yeah, looks.
01:39:09
Speaker 3: Like it was. Heaps of feedback too about the lunch story in the Lollies. A lot of people saying that the government is being hypocritical because if their department's got all the strict guidelines about how we should and shouldn't behave, then either they should get rid of the guidelines and stop treating us all like babies, or the politicians themselves should abide by them. And quite a few people were just saying, but out of our lives, let us do whatever we want completely.
01:39:32
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
01:39:36
Speaker 2: Seven minutes tonight feel watch in justin moment. We have a winner though, in jan who was in the running to win the Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo, tickets, flights and accommodation. Having been the first to respond to the Royal Military Band SoundBite, we played just a moment ago all thanks to Spark Travel. Plan your next to get away with the experts at Spark Travel, where every journey begins with a friendly conversation. Petrol prices this morning a bit all over the shop. It's got to be said, better to be a member with raa road service. The cheapest is the UGO West Time Marsh dollar fifty two point five, the United Melrose Park dollar fifty six point three, the United subtern Park dollar fifty nine point nine, and the cheapest diesel is the Solo Windsor Gardens at a dollar sixty five point five. Not a lot of love still for the bureau. No website coming through.
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Speaker 3: People really dislike it. I wonder if they'll review it. Just a reminder too, just came through from one of our listeners. I think it was Helen. In the first half hour of the show, Ben, our resident stats man, has reminded people. For those of you who've come to the program later in the morning, the original website can still be accessed by going to Redge as in reginald rig dot bomb dot gov dot AU. Great name, reg, isn't it reg. It's one of those names like Clam, sort of fallen from use. Redge.
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Speaker 2: They all come, which is a good They all cycle back, though things suddenly become old these days. He's starting to get a lot of the old. Like my daughter had been called Rosie. It's such an old nay, but you're getting their heaps of old names now it's become trendy again. I bet you we'll go through a generation of Redges and Clems. Sometimes so claim in the gym they all start coming back.
01:41:20
Speaker 3: I think it's a Derek and Clive reference. Accidentally, are you speaking of the housing crisis? Oh, Prince Andrew found a way to get around it, didn't he amazing investigation by the Times Yesterday the Times of London, Prince Andrew appears not to have paid rent for thirty five years and did not directly own sunning Hill Park, the twelve bedroom house that he was given by the late Queen as a wedding present and which has since been sold. He just lived in this house for three and a half decades without paying a cent.
01:41:48
Speaker 2: It's good being at Royal, isn't it.
01:41:49
Speaker 10: Well.
01:41:51
Speaker 3: I don't try to restart the Republican debate, particularly on the day that we had the Governor General, Her Excellency Sam Moston in the studio. Prince Andrew, though, is a reminder that you get a few outliers through history, you get a few outliers in royalty who are terrific. You know. I'd say the King, I'd say Queen Camilla, I'd say Prince William. You know, Princess Diana was a wonderful addition to the royal family, even though she did not come from royalty herself. But that sense of purpose. What can we do to help people with aids? What can we do to help people have been victims of war, victims of land mines? What can we do to help kids with cancer. There's a number of good royals, however, overwhelmingly through history, pack of entitled layabouts who got where they are through theft. Like it's just extraordinary, you know, like when I was chatting off their okay. So look at Spain, for example, King Juan Carlos, extraordinary man. Nineteen seventy five, Franco dies. Franco has been a dictator for four decades. Juan Carlos announces that we will be having a general election. Spain is now a democracy, just a great great man. But then, I mean, you go back to forty ninety two though, it was like Queen Isabella, maybout we kick all the Jews and Arabs out of Spain and start the Spanish Inquisition.
01:43:20
Speaker 2: Well they used to Yeah, that's right, well done. They used to have monicas, didn't they. You know, you had Ivan the Terrible for example in Russia. Yeah, you know, I've lad the Impala. I wonder if we had Prince Andrew had a Monica, would it be But we should probably not do that as a talk alive on the air, I suspect not if that could be bad news. That's all from us on this Thursday morning. Stick around Graham Goodings is coming up. We'll be back tomorrow morning from six.
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