Ep. 91: Drinking With... The Descent

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So Bruse Network for since the movie podcast, breaking down
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films and their impact on pop culture as they approach
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the legal drinking age. This is Drinking With Now Here's
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your host, Stephen mccash.
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Welcome to a spooky special edition of Drinking With the
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Podcast where we raise a glass to the movies that
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have reached the legal drinking age. I'm your host, Steph
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mccash and the Sobros Network, and join me as we
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embark on a cinematic journey through the classics of yesteryear,
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celebrating their twenty first birthdays and style. From iconic blockbusters
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to hidden gyms, each episode will toast to a different
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film that has stood the test of time and shaped
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our cultural landscape. So grab your favorite beverage or the
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one we have curated for this episode, and let's dive
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into the nostalgia as we explore movies that are finally
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old enough to join us for a drink. Like I said,
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it's spooky season and joining me at the bar as
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always are the two best people I can think of
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to stumble out a set bar after a long discussion
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of movies. Versus the resident film critic of the Sobros
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Network Brandon Vick, who is also a member of the
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Southeastern Film Critics Association, a board member of the Music
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City Films Critics Association, and most importantly, the birthgiver of
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not one but two movie podcasts, The Vick Flicks and
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the Cinema Chronicles that you can hear wherever you get
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your podcasts from and joining him is the man behind
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the brains of the Sobros Network, thei S, the glue
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of the brand. A Jennificionado, multiple cat lover, all around
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football wordsmith, budding sports talk radio star, mister Stony Keeley, gentleman,
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how is Spooky Season treating you?
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Uh?
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I feel like we say it every year, mccash, this
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is the best time of the year. I mean, we've
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got the weather changing, the leaves starting to turn, the
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weather's cooled off a little bit. It's chilly season, sweater weather,
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rock pot season. I think the Spooky Season viewing calendar
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is the best viewing calendar of the year. And uh,
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I'm I'm you know, knee deep in football season as well.
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It's just it's a very happy time starting to wind
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down for the year. I know we say it every
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year when we do these shows, but just uh, I
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don't know, the cup feels full, how about that?
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I I agree, this is kind of the beginning of
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like ooh, spooky season, and then you you know, a
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month of that, then we start to get into hopefully
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real fall weather. Yeah, and this, yes, and then I mean, listen,
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I know some people don't want to talk about after Thanksgiving,
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but honestly, let's just let's just roll with Christmas, right,
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get in November.
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There's nothing wrong with Thanksgiving. And I think there are
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some fun movies. I like watching The Night at the
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Museum movies because they're kind of magical, but they're not
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holiday films, you know, like there's a there's a nice
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little pocket of movies in there.
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And we also have we have a new horror film
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tradition for Thanksgiving with the film Thanksgiving that came out.
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Which, yeah, I like that movie. It's a good way.
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Yeah. And that he was he sure was, but I yeah,
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I agree. I mean, like I said, football, but even
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more importantly, now we're getting into awards season. It's Oscars time.
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It's picking up. Business is picking up.
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Yeah, it is, it is.
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Uh, it's not ninety billion degrees outside anymore.
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Best of all, it's not ninety it's not Hustle and
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Flow weather anymore.
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Yeah. So today we're starting off October with the first
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of what we'll think we'll be end up five spooky
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season films that we're going to review, and we're doing
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The Descent. The Descent is a British survival horror film
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about a group of women who go on a caving
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expedition in the Appalachian Mountain. After a rock fall traps
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them deep underground, they discover they are not alone. Something
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predatory is hunting them in the dark tunnels. The Descent
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was written and directed by Neil Marshall, who has directed
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episodes of Games of Throne, Hannibal and Westward, as well
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as twenty nineteen's hell Boy, which I.
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Know, Oh well you're not missing much with that.
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Well I didn't like the Harbor.
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Yes, yeah, you didn't miss much.
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That was that had the potential to be so cool
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and it just David Harber's Hellboy would have should have worked.
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But uh, yeah, well how was really awful movie.
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Yeah, he's an awful person too, but that's another story. Uh.
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The Descent stars Seana McDonald as Sarah Alex Rida's Beth
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Mayana Burring as Sam who was seen in the Twilight
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film Breaking Dawn. Uh, Natalie Mendoza as Juno who was
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seen in Mulan Rouge. Uh, Saskia Maulder as Rebecca who
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you can see in the Beach, and then Nora Jane
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known as Holly who was in the Sasha Roar. I've
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always put you her name, Uh, Brooklyn, how about that? Yeah,
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I've If that's how it's pronounced.
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That's a great that's a great film. Brooklyn.
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I did love Brooklyn, but I have never been able
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to pronounce her name correctly.
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I this is one of those movies where even if
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there was nothing creepy down in the cave, it's still
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scary at the thought of just the claustrophobia. Yeah, yeah,
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just the thought of like what if you move, like
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if you don't move right in those rocks, or which
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less just falling, just falling and being stuck in the cave.
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This movie thrives off the atmosphere and the environment that
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it is in. On top of Oh, now we're gonna
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have like quote unquote real horror as well. That's mixed
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in along with the dynamic of the girls. And can
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I say So I have seen this a few times
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and I rewatched it for this and I talked to
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Stony because Stony had never seen it. And as we
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were talking and You're talking about the ending and stuff.
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Yeah, I go back and.
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Apparently I must I missed, I slash missed and forgot
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stuff because the whole affair thing. Yeah, and then the
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because I remember telling you on the phone, well, you
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know that friend ended up sacrificing herself so the other
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one could leave. Well, but then nope, it was like
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straight up, I'm gonna leave you here, yeah, and you
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can get it. And I'm like, my god, he probably
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think I didn't even watch the movie. So I went
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back and literally watched bits and pieces of it again
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and I'm like, oh, like the beginning, I missed the
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little and I'm not saying like this is more of
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a refresher, but the the look that they give each
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other that hints at some affair, which it is very subtle.
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So like, I mean, it's like that, but with the
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whole is it Beth that ends up getting accidentally killed?
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Am I thinking of it? Because I think Juno kills
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Beth by accident?
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Because Beth because she asked about Beth and you know,
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and she was already left alive. So anyway, I'm like,
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I'm glad I went back because I'm like, for some reason, well.
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When it's funny you say that, because when you when
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you said that on the phone, I was like, oh,
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I must have I must have misinterpreted that.
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I was like, oh no, well you know, well, you
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know that's why I went back, because I'm like, why
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did they And then I'm like, oh, that's right, the
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whole thing about the affair and the necklace, And I
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got caught up and I guess, like these I forgot
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what the film calls them when they show, like who
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plays who? I think they're called the creepers.
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Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
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But anyway, but I was so hooked on that that
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I'm like, there actually is some personality to these characters.
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And it spends a solid thirty minutes just doing that
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before they even enter the cave.
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And then it's like thirty more minutes before you even.
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See the Yeah, then you're you're you're in.
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Then it becomes an all out in same blood bath, ye,
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battle of the fittest type thing but I really and
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I'm sure we'll get into it. But and Stony was
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talking about some of the theories behind yeah, the movie,
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but just just watching it and the location and stuff,
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it's it's a rare horror movie that gets it right
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with both things of biling of being thrilling and like
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just just straight up scary.
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And I just thought, you don't even need those you
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don't even need those creepers in there, and I'd be like,
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hell with this.
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And the way I've framed it to Brandon when we
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were kind of talking about this movie is like this,
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this film does a great job of continually upping the stakes,
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and so, like with a lot of horror films, it's
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kind of like, Okay, here's the backstory. We're gonna set
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this up, here's the conflict, here's the resolution. And this
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is like, Okay, we're gonna set up the backstory, here's
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the conflict, but then we're gonna add some more conflict,
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and we're gonna dial up the fear. You're already freaked
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out because of this cave, but now we're gonna add
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this dimension to it, and it really just cranks up
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the intensity. And I think it's an effective use of
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setting to create anxiety in the viewer. I was watching
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it thinking like I would be drenched in sweat in
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the worst way possible if I was watching this on
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a theater.
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Oh yeah, the pitch dark like that.
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Yeah. God yeah. So I just like tip of the cap,
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well done.
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What It's a great concept, and typically, especially in this genre,
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you can get sort of a concept like this that
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becomes a bit of a gimmick. But they really fleshed
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out a story to go with this movie, And I
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told Brandon after watching it, it instantly became one of
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my favorite horror movies that I've ever watched.
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I'll agree with that. And it was a film that
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I watched for the first time last year because it's
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a film that I always saw either streaming somewhere or
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on cable or whatever, and I was like, I had
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no fucking desire to ever watch this movie. And then
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I kept seeing maybe through letterbox or TikTok, people referencing
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the movie over and over, and I was like, all right, finally,
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I give in. I'll watch this movie. Me and my
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wife sat down and watched it, and when it was over,
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we were like, holy fucking shit. I owe this movie
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an apology.
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Yeah, yeah, it's it is one of those that if
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you just read the synopsis, I totally get why. It's
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kind of like an I roll like okay, but it
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it is done with real skill.
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And there's even times where the where the director Neil
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could have just relied on certain stuff and he doesn't.
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He actually resists those type of things that we've seen
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this genre do over and over and over.
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Well, let's let's talk about drinking, because that's the whole
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reason why we're here to talk about movies and to drink. Yeah,
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and we've talked about how claustrophobic this film is, and
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we'll get even more into it. But today's drink is
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the claustrophobic cocktail. You're gonna take one and a half
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ounces of dark rum with a half ounce of BlackBerry
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of the core and a half ounce of fresh lime juice,
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and then a quarter ounce of simple syrup, some bitters
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and some red wine to the side that you're gonna
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use later. What you can do is you're gonna add
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the rum, the BlackBerry of the core, the lime juice,
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the simple syrup, and the bitters to shake and put
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it in a shaker with ice, shake until cold and
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slightly aggressive. Then strain into a rocks glass over a
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large ice cube if you have one, or just some
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ice in general, uh, and then slowly float the red
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wine on top, you know, pour it over the back
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of a spoon to give it that dark blood effect.
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And then if if you happen to have some, take
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a tiny pinch of activated charcoal and stir it in
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slightly for a cave black look to the drink.
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Wow.
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That is uh, floating red wine. That is a complex
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palette there in this cocktail.
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I like it. This is this is creative. We've done
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something here.
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I think people will enjoy it very well, very well.
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So let's talk money and all that good stuff about
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the descent. As I'm looking through my notes, I forgot
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a very important detail, but I got it here. Here
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we go. Okay, So uh, this movie we open July
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eighth in the UK of two thousand and five. Here
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and we've done this before on Drinking with and we
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were doing it again. This film came out in the
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UK in two thousand and five, but was not released
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in the United States until two thousand and six. I
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don't know that it is technically a film that has
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turned twenty one years old, but in the United States
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it is only twenty years old. But we're still gonna
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let drink with us today, why not?
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Yeah, we've done it before.
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We can we can be a little loose.
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Yeah. But with that said, what do we think it
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costs to make The Descent in two thousand and five?
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I have its budget in euros, which I'm going to
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to translate into dollars. So what do you think The
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Descent costs to be made? Uh?
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Say one point eight?
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I was gonna say, I was going to say four million.
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Four million and one point eight Let me up to two.
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Let me get my calculator out to do the math
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for me.
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Okay, all right, and.
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Come on, are you seriously? Okay? Three point five million
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euros is what it costs to make in two thousand
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and five In today's euro to dollar. The dollar is
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worth about eighty seven cents to a euro, so it
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probably costs around three million dollars to be made in
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two thousand and five.
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Right down the middle, right down down the middle.
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Yep. But did this movie make money? And at least
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it's euros back? Like I said? It opened July eighth
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and the UK of two thousand and five. It opened
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a year later, August fourth in two thousand and six,
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and it opened against Talladega Nights, How The Bar, The Barnyard,
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the Night Listener that I've never heard of, even though
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it stars Robin Williams and Tony Collette.
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I haven't heard of that either, have you.
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Sounds familiar, but I don't remember them too. Yeah, let
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me look up the.
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I had to look it up. The Night Listener stars
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Robbin Williams and Tony Collette. I read what it was about,
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but I don't remember offhand. But yeah, those are the
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three films that opened alongside. So my question is August fourth,
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two thousand and six, that weekend, what did the Descent
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bring home?
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I'm gonna say six million, six.
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Million, So you've it's already doubled its its budget according
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to you.
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Yeah.
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Are we talking United States?
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United States?
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Okay, so we're talking about up against Talladega Knights and
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stuff like that.
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Because I mean I could see it.
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Like again, to go back to something I said earlier
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is like, oh, the gimmick probably intrigued some people. Yeah,
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even if you don't, I said, six six Even if
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you don't know any of like at that point, does
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the movie have any sort of word of mouth from
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across the pond?
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Like how many? How many screens are we talking?
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The Ascent opened on twenty one hundred screens.
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Oh damn, that's a good release. Yeah, I don't think
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it made.
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I will say of the top ten, uh, the Night
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Listener is the only one that opened on less screens.
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Oh okay, okay, I'm gonna say.
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Two million, two million, and you said six stony, I
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said six.
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Yeah.
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The Descent opened at number five at the box office.
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It was beat out by Miami Vice at number four.
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Hell yeah, The Pirates of the Caribbean, dead Man's Chest
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at number three, the Barnyard at number two, and then
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your number one film with forty seven million dollars was
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Talladega Knights. The Ballad of Ricky Bobby makes sense. But
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the Dissent on twenty one hundred screens brought in eight
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point nine million dollars open the week.
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Okay, that's wow, that's good for them. Yeah, that's a hit.
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I know, horror movies concert you know, kind of can
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do some kind of business. And there's none of those
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that you said before. It that would take away its audience. Yeah,
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but I am still kind of surprised that it made
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that much and it's in its first.
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Weekend yep, yep. And that's how you get a sequel
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that's eventually yeah, which I still haven't seen. I need
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to watch it.
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I've seen it, don't remember too much about it.
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Fair total domestic it made twenty six million dollars, and
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then sadly, worldwide, it only brought in thirty one, so
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there's only an extra five million dollars that it made internationally,
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with four point eight of that five million dollars coming
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from the UK. Yep. Our friends in the Ukraine though,
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fifty seven thousand damn showing up scary, Yeah, but our
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our friends in Finland only eleven thousand dollars. That was
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our low, low hitter.
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I just I still it fascinates me every month that
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we talk about a movie making like eleven thousand dollars.
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Like, how did it just get? Like was there like
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one town in Finland that was like we're going to
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show this once a night for a month.
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That's what That's what I'm like. I do think it's
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not like they go to like a regal and they
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got twenty different movies to choose from us.
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Like some small town in Finland their version of the
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Bell Court is like, yeah, we're going to run this movie.
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Like the ticket takers are like sheep, Yeah, we have
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the descent and aren't scared stupid for you to choose.
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From likely exactly.
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But then I feel like he's eleven thousand, Like is
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that good? Where they are like for a movie to
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do that kind of business? There is that like hey,
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you know what, well, that's what I mean, Like eleven
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thousand obviously would be a disaster beyond a disaster in
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the US with more, with obviously a lot more choices.
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But in Finland is that like hey, you know what,
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we didn't even know our movie was showing in Finland.
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Fair Yeah, I don't know. I can't answer that question. Brandon, Well, I.
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Wish you would have gone to Finland.
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I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
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Is there time?
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Uh? Yeah? Well we press pots let you get out there,
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uh them the time?
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Yeah?
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Yeah. And while you're doing so, let's me and Sony
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then we'll talk about the critics and and and the
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average Joe watching at home on Rotten Tomatoes. So the
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tomato meter has one hundred and eighty nine reviews from
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critics across the board for The Descent, What do we
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think the scent brought in? Is it fresh or not?
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It's fresh?
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I would think so, But I at least know that
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the genre always surprises me.
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You don't get a rotten score if you're releasing your
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movie a year later in twenty one hundred screens. Well,
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that's hard. I mean, in general, it could have easily
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been a go to red box.
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Fair so fair.
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True, But generally the critics aren't very favorable when it
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comes to horror.
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That's true, that's what. But I think this one had
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a different run. I think I think it's I think
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it's like eighty five eighties. I'll go eighty five.
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I'm gonna go seventy four.
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Eighty five and seventy four. You both underbid you, Stony
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by a long stretch. Seven Wow was a tomato meter
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for the dissents.
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I remember thinking it was a like it was just
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a surprise across the board of the reaction critically, but
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then now hearing that it made I mean the fact
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it made eight million against all those other ones in
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one weekend, that's pretty crazy. Some movies don't ever get
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that the critics liked.
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It more than Hustle and Flow.
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Wow.
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Yeah, last month's episode. That puts it into perspective.
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Yeah it does.
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I mean it's I both four star movies in my book.
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I agree, But what did the average film goer think this?
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This is the you think this could flip?
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I think it might still be high. I don't know
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if it's gonna be eighty seven. Yeah, I could be wrong.
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People could have liked m Cash once they turned it on.
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They were like, oh okay, yeah I would This is
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where I would say, this is like eighty six percent.
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See I think it might be a little lower. Okay,
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I'll say seventy nine.
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So we're flip flopped on this.
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Yeah. I think we did this last month too. But
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I for some reason, I just don't know if people
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would get seventy eight. I'll just say seventy eight.
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You both overbid again, seventy six percent?
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Dang I said seven.
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So I just had the exact ass backwards read.
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On this again. I'm all things considered, I was at
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least I was pretty close. I would have won the
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Showcase showdown.
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I think, yeah, yeah, you would have.
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If you go over you don't win.
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I know, but Drew Carey changed the rules, Oh did he? Yeah,
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Bob Barker's dead and so okay, but yes, but that's
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I still think that's quite a that's pretty good again,
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I agree for what is in a nutshell a horror
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in a cave, it's pretty good. That eighty seven percent
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is still mighty.
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Yeah. I thought those numbers would flip where there weren't
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as high on it as the the average viewer is.
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I think I think the tendency is to say, oh,
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you know what, I bet critics is like sixty seven,
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but the audience liked it at like seventy eight. Like,
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I don't think either one people would have really expected
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it to be eighty. I just remember thinking this was
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one of those exceptions, at least the critical the critics
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side of it.
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Now, there are some really good reviews of Letterbox. On
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Letterbox of the Descent, I will say it's kind of
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like Hustle and Flow, where I had to dig really
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deep to find some negative takes on this film.
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Good.
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I just I feel this sense of pride for the filmmakers, like,
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good for y'all man, this was a hit.
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Yeah, Mrkin Moughly three and a half stars says it
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made me realize I'm not super clear on how ropes work.
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I'm with you a murkin, I like that.
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Yeah.
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Number one gizmo fan on Letterbox four and a half
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stars really loved it. Uh says that when people tell
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me a movie is scary, I the time assumed they're
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idiots who have only seen three movies in their entire life.
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It's like the long legs hep yeap.
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I should have listened to those idiots when it came
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to this one. My skin has crawled off my body
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and descended into another realm.
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That's the crazy thing. I feel that before we even
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see the creatures.
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Yes, yes, that's why I feel like, no wonder the
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creatures come in towards the end, because they they've already Yeah,
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they've already got you set.
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It's so true. Uh. Nicole van Sant three stars. Nicole
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says this is more a more powerful piece of feminist
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sin I'm a than little women.
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How about that? That's good.
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I like that.
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I don't know, I don't know if there's a light
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detected there.
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Yeah, fair enough.
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And then lastly, Felipe f four stars loved it. As
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much as I did. Honestly, the location alone makes this
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movie fucking terrifying. The creatures are just the icing on
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the cake. Caves are fucking scary, man, and people explore
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them for fun. No, thank you.
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I had the same thought watching this, was like, I
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don't know why anybody would do this.
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You don't need creatures. You just like if I'm stuck,
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if I'm stuck between two rocks, yeah, or a spider
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gets in my nose, yeah, I'm done, I might turn
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into one of those creatures.
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But there was there was a part of me that's like,
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I'm watching this, this film, and I'm thinking, like, this
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is gonna be dark. I'm just giving you all heads up,
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but I'm thinking, like, if if it gets bad enough,
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what is the quickest way that I can off myself
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situation so that I don't have.
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To I don't have to deal with any of that?
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Yeah?
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Uh, And it's probably gonna be my heart exploding from
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anxiety when I get wedged in between two rocks.
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Yeah, I mean you're yeah, like I said, between heights
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and just feeling trapped in that claustropholki, It's that's enough.
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But like I said, that's that just speaks like we
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were talking about earlier too. Uh. The just a spectacular setting.
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Yeah, Like, I I don't know how I'm going to
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00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:34.279
go out in this world. I do know I can.
491
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I can put every dollar I'll ever make or have
492
00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:41.920
ever made, on the fact that me getting stuck in
493
00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:45.079
a tunnel in a cave will never be away that
494
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I leave this earth.
495
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Unless you get kidnapped.
496
00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:49.799
Oh and then you have no choice.
497
00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:53.160
They throw you in a cave. Yeah. Yeah, be good
498
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:56.680
to people, just in case, just in case anybody wants
499
00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:57.079
to case.
500
00:26:57.160 --> 00:26:59.720
I don't think anybody's trying to trying to kidnap a
501
00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:06.880
sick Fellah. I had something else.
502
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:08.799
Do you have those Summer Slam tickets?
503
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:13.720
I do? Well, Yeah, everybody wanted to be my friend
504
00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:19.160
back then. Yeah. Man, let's let's get into some fun
505
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:25.079
facts about about the descents now. Okay, So every every
506
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:28.079
episode we do a mount rushmore question of some sort.
507
00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:29.960
At the end of it, I had put in our
508
00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:33.680
slack conversation that I was having difficulty coming up with
509
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:37.200
one for this one, and then Brandon had a great idea, like, hey,
510
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:42.839
best horror settings, uh, you know, whether it be hotels,
511
00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:45.119
you know, prisons, what have you? And I was like, oh,
512
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:47.799
that's a great question. Let's go with that. Because he
513
00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:51.200
talked about how the caves in this film are like
514
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:55.759
just a character of their own, if you will. And
515
00:27:56.359 --> 00:28:00.480
I hate to announce this or bust any bubbles, those
516
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:01.279
caves are fake.
517
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:03.480
Oh my god, turn it off.
518
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:08.119
The cave system in the film was was entirely built
519
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:11.799
on sound stages. They built twenty one caves in all,
520
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:14.559
so no real caves were used at all in the
521
00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:17.839
making of this film, and this allowed for controlled lighting
522
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:21.200
and camera movements obviously make it much easier film.
523
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:23.799
Yeah, so you're telling me no one went to a
524
00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:27.519
real cave splashed around in blood and guts.
525
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:28.920
No, not really.
526
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:29.920
Oh my god.
527
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.480
Just imagine pitching that to a crew. It's like, Hey,
528
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.359
we're actually gonna try. We're gonna get down in this
529
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:39.599
cave with all this equipment.
530
00:28:39.839 --> 00:28:40.400
To get stuck.
531
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:45.839
Yeah, you're you know, be careful, there's any teatures down there.
532
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:49.119
Yeah, just every man for himself.
533
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:51.599
I'll tell you what. They did a great job.
534
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:53.880
On that stage. They did absolutely did do a good, great.
535
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:56.000
Job and to make it still feel the way that
536
00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:00.640
it felt good for them. Yea off of a three millionet.
537
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:01.000
Yeah.
538
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:04.359
Obviously the filmmaker is considered it too dangerous to film
539
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:07.440
in an actual cave, and the sets were constructed in
540
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:10.720
a in Pinewood style studios in the UK with tight
541
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:13.119
claustrophobic designs to heighten the tension.
542
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:13.920
Uh.
543
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:19.319
And they intentionally designed tunnels to feel increasingly restrictive as
544
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:21.759
the movie progresses. Yeah.
545
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:23.640
Mission accomplished very much.
546
00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:25.799
So that deserved an oscar. Do they have set? Yeah?
547
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:28.960
Set designed for horror films. Let's let's get that going
548
00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:30.880
for the Academy Awards.
549
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:34.960
They might will be long gone, but they might will
550
00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:35.759
be long gone.
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00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:37.039
We'll be dumped in a cave.
552
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:39.680
Listen, we don't. We still don't have best stunt yet.
553
00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:41.200
That's in the next or two.
554
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:42.640
Yeah, I say the same thing.
555
00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:43.519
Uh.
556
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:47.519
Director Neil Marsh, who also wrote it as well, I
557
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:50.559
think I mentioned earlier, wanted the actors to feel genuine fear,
558
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:54.039
so the cast was often kept in the dark about
559
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:57.279
the creature's appearance early on, so they didn't really see
560
00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:01.519
them until they got ready to actually film. The tight
561
00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:04.559
spaces were real. The actors had to physically crawl through
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00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:09.480
narrow passages, and the film taps into claustrophobia, darkness as
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00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:13.359
primary fears before even introducing the characters. Like we've mentioned,
564
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:16.559
you guys have mentioned multiple times you didn't even need them.
565
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:20.000
Yeah, you really didn't, and you still probably would have
566
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:20.880
had a good movie here.
567
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:25.880
Yeah. Uh, this is one of, I maybe the only
568
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:29.200
horror film that I can think of that has an
569
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an entirely female cast. Yeah.
570
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:36.880
That was something I was kind of mulling over watching this.
571
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I don't know if you did any research and found examples,
572
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but I couldn't.
573
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I mean, there's the craft, you know, from the nineties. Yeah,
574
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:48.160
but but there were there were male characters in the
575
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film that, you know, protagonists and whatnot, Like there is
576
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:55.279
a male at the beginning of this film who as
577
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:56.880
a douchebag and dies rightfully.
578
00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.960
So hm right, and a little girl yeah.
579
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:06.079
Uh well okay, spoiler alert spoiler alert. H but one
580
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:09.599
last thing about the caves, I mean probably won't be
581
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:12.640
the last thing, but one of the crefaces built for
582
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:16.079
the film was so narrow and slippery that the female
583
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:17.960
cast dubbed it the vagina.
584
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:22.640
Oh you can do that. If it's an all female
585
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:23.319
cast y, you.
586
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.079
Can get away with that. There's no me too movement
587
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:27.799
when it's all ladies, that's.
588
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:29.759
True, that's right in the slippery vagina.
589
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:39.480
Yeah. But with the crawlers, uh, the crawlers, Uh, the
590
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:45.319
creatures were inspired by evolutionary theory that humanoids adapt to
591
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cave life. They were blind but with heightened hearing.
592
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:51.599
Did I call them the creepers?
593
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:55.440
You did so? And I thought the jeepers creepers?
594
00:31:55.920 --> 00:32:01.480
Maybe so in essence, these these creatures, our crawlers, were
595
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:05.599
similar to the aliens in uh a quiet place.
596
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:11.279
Oh yeah, that's true. Also, are they just former cave
597
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:13.079
divers just.
598
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:16.759
Officially got they got stuck and evolved over the stuck
599
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:17.079
and just.
600
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Evolved and became became them crawlers?
601
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:20.839
It's possible.
602
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:24.599
Are they even realm cash, are they even real?
603
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:27.759
I mean about it, there's about as reel as that cave.
604
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:32.119
Oh I have my answer then.
605
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:36.400
Yeah. So the actors playing the crawlers went through movement
606
00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:43.319
training to create their unsettling, animalistic motion. Uh. Oh so
607
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:44.880
it's almost like they had to go to dance class.
608
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:49.400
It's a pretty clever way of doing things, is getting
609
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:53.319
of getting it just right and making their movements as
610
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:55.359
as distinct as as they.
611
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:58.119
Do well extras on The Walking Dead years ago, had
612
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:02.599
to go to zombie training. Oh what's that, Like I
613
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:05.880
was about to ask, I never, I never was a
614
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:08.680
part of The Walking Dead, so I don't know what
615
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:13.480
I wasn't in that now sadly not filming anywhere. I
616
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:17.559
was nowhere near Atlanta during its filming. Like I mentioned,
617
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the main cast is entirely female, which is unusual for
618
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.359
a horror film. At the time, I still can't think
619
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:27.480
of anything House of Wax. No, there's guys in that scream. Obviously,
620
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.720
there's guys in that. I'm just trying to think of.
621
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:33.880
I mean, I really don't think there's really anything, like
622
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:37.240
you said, even if it's like The Craft, where like
623
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:41.160
the four main characters are women, there's but it's not
624
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:43.079
like but you know, this is such kind of an
625
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:47.920
isolated film that it's also it's gonna be tough to
626
00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:52.680
find something else that resembles this just because you can.
627
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:57.279
I mean, you know, essentially, like you said, it's basically
628
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:01.920
one setting and what five five people?
629
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:03.279
Really? Yeah? Five women?
630
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:07.720
Yeah, So I mean that's gonna be I don't know
631
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:10.559
other films that would be able to do that unless
632
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:14.039
you're literally, like in the exact same situation of just
633
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:17.199
kind of a chamber piece where one thing got one.
634
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:21.719
But no, there was a guy in it. I was
635
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.440
gonna say host that came out during the pandemic.
636
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:25.000
Yeah.
637
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:28.880
Yeah, but the one guy that's in it, he shows
638
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.800
up at the beginning, leaves and then comes back at
639
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:32.519
the very end.
640
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:34.960
Yeah. So I mean that's close. I mean, that's close.
641
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:36.119
That's the closest I can get.
642
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:38.320
Yeah, I mean somebody, I mean.
643
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:41.519
I'm sure somebody listening is just shouting the obvious answer.
644
00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:44.719
Somebody has to have a dad or a husband or yeah,
645
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:47.360
somebody's gotta have some some dude.
646
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:48.000
Yeah.
647
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:49.039
Uh.
648
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.960
Sean McDonald, who played Sarah, reportedly performed many of our
649
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:56.559
own physically demanding scenes without use of a stunt double
650
00:34:56.639 --> 00:35:00.719
or anything. Huh and then uh on a plus, the
651
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:04.119
two other actresses, Natalie and Alex, did the entire whitewater
652
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.320
rafting sequence on their own with no stunt doubles or
653
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:08.079
special effects.
654
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:13.199
Dang, that takes some skill there, and that's a skill.
655
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:17.599
I don't have you and me both, buddy, yep.
656
00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:21.400
It's reported that the cast bonded during production due to
657
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:25.599
the intense isolated filming conditions, which Yeah, if I'm going
658
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:28.199
through fake caves, I'd be scared. I'd be scared too
659
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:29.159
in one of bonds.
660
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:33.280
And probably kind of adds to the the overall intensity
661
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:35.800
of the film too, like that. I feel like that's
662
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:37.880
something that comes across in the performances.
663
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:43.360
Yep. So the film is known for its practical effects.
664
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:46.880
The blood and injuries were done mostly without any cgi
665
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:52.559
practical effects, and the infamous blood pool scene required a
666
00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:56.480
large tank filled with fake blood which was slightly heated
667
00:35:56.599 --> 00:35:58.119
for the for the ladies comforts.
668
00:35:58.239 --> 00:35:59.519
Wait minute, that was fake blood.
669
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:01.199
That was sorry to say that.
670
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:04.320
How do you That's the scene I think of, and like,
671
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:08.920
how do you do that without going into cardiac arrest
672
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:14.159
because it's dark, you can't see, like you're I feel
673
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:17.119
like that's one of those situations where the acting comes
674
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:19.880
easy because it's it's got to be terrifying to just
675
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:27.000
fall into this warm vat of liquid knowing I don't know,
676
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:31.559
like I would be genuinely terrified and worried that I
677
00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:34.599
would actually put myself in cardiac.
678
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:37.239
Arrest and they have a nervous breakdown of some sort.
679
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:40.440
Yes. Absolutely, Uh, this is.
680
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:43.559
A fun fact. The neon light sticks that they use
681
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:46.159
throughout the film to kind of light their way. Yeah,
682
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:48.800
those were purchased at a sex shop.
683
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:51.679
Well I thought you were going to say, like at
684
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:55.880
a concert. No, people do that a concert still.
685
00:36:56.960 --> 00:36:59.719
I mean they do it a lot at K pop concerts.
686
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:05.119
Maybe that's what I'm thinking of, But no, sex shops
687
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:06.039
makes total sense.
688
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:11.639
Who doesn't get fucking light sticks at Uh? Yeah, that's
689
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:13.159
where I go right before I go to the fair,
690
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:21.800
go to hustlers and and or mirandas what I didn't
691
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:24.320
know and I haven't seen this yet, but there is
692
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:27.280
a different version from the US and U I mean
693
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:29.559
a different ending from the US and UK versions.
694
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:32.840
Yeah, and apparently the sequel picks up from one of
695
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:38.239
the versions. And that's where I can't remember which is which,
696
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:43.639
But there was one that directly ties into the sequel. Okay,
697
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:47.119
I shouldn't do anything now because I can't remember which
698
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:47.519
is which.
699
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:48.800
But here we are.
700
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:52.480
I have it, okay where it says because I was
701
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:56.199
looking it up when we were talking about rotten tomatoes stuff.
702
00:37:56.679 --> 00:37:59.920
The story says. Refusing to believe her story about cave
703
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:04.199
dwelling monsters, the survivor of an explanation gone wrong is
704
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:08.000
forced to follow the authorities back into the caves, where
705
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:09.960
something awaits. That's all it says.
706
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:15.280
Okay, so that's Sarah Sarah. In the US version, Sarah escapes,
707
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.239
but in the UK version it's much darker. Sarah never escapes.
708
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:22.039
Her escape is revealed to be a hallucination.
709
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:26.079
Yeah, and they that leads to some of the theories that, yeah,
710
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:30.719
they they reshot it, or they changed the ending. I
711
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:34.119
shouldn't say reshot They changed the ending because they thought
712
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:37.119
audiences in the United States would not go for such
713
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:37.840
a bleak ending.
714
00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:42.440
They're probably right, unfortunately, even though I kind.
715
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:47.000
Of like, but yeah, to Brandon's point, they are living
716
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:48.119
in a blique reality.
717
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:51.800
Fair enough, Hey not two thousand and five. It was fun,
718
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:52.199
wasn't it.
719
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:56.159
I don't. Yeah, from what I remember in two thousand five,
720
00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:56.880
I had a good year.
721
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:01.519
But there are some fun theories out there about how
722
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:06.119
this the title of the film signifies a larger descent
723
00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:10.639
into madness, that maybe it's not a literal descent into
724
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:13.320
the cave, that maybe the monsters aren't even real, and
725
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:17.400
what we're seeing is basically a psychotic break where she's
726
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:20.440
down in the cave killing everybody, And then there's some
727
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:22.480
fun stuff out there about how.
728
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:24.559
Well and also to that point, it shows her like
729
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:27.679
obviously the trauma of losing her family, yeah, daughter, yeah,
730
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:30.519
and then the betrayal. But like she's shown taking medication
731
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:33.920
and people are like, how how long have they really
732
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.480
been down there? And she hasn't been taking her medication
733
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:39.480
and then she kind of snaps at one point, which
734
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:41.679
is the blood pool thing starts.
735
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:45.880
To happen, and there's some theories that she doesn't like
736
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:48.840
the waking up in the cave thing is meant to
737
00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:54.280
signify that this is she never really leaves the cave,
738
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:58.920
so to speak, like it's always there. I love movies
739
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:01.800
like this where things are kind of open to interpretation.
740
00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:05.280
It's fun to discuss these things. But I did find
741
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:08.480
one subreddit that I found to be pretty funny where
742
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:11.480
somebody's laying out all this stuff like, oh, the monsters
743
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:14.960
aren't even really real. It's a psychotic break and she's
744
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:17.400
off for meds and she's the one that's killing all
745
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:19.960
these people and all this stuff. And the first comment
746
00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:26.320
is like, please touch grass, like, not everything, not everything
747
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:27.320
is meant to be this.
748
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:29.000
You don't have to eat clean.
749
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:32.599
Yeah, if they're all fighting these different things, and stuff,
750
00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:33.239
you know, but.
751
00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:37.599
Yes, but I think it's that I think it's fun
752
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:41.599
that you can even make that interpretation. Yes, and it
753
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:47.679
is that works, and that makes me appreciate the writing
754
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:49.719
more about this is.
755
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:52.119
Like it's not so straightforward.
756
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:57.519
And it is kind of still as we talk about
757
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.760
with horror, the genre as a whole being a sort
758
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:05.000
of metaphor for larger themes and issues in life. The
759
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:09.159
discent the descent is still like the title of the
760
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:11.199
film is like right on the money, Like it is
761
00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:15.199
kind of like, Okay, well, this is probably what a
762
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:19.119
descent into madness would feel like for in a different
763
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:19.840
sort of h.
764
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:25.480
Yeah, would only fuel that fire. So I mean it
765
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:26.159
makes sense.
766
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:29.000
I found it to be pretty interesting that this is
767
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:32.000
this ends up being one of those movies like almost
768
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:33.119
like Inception.
769
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:36.400
People are like picking the nuggets out, like oh, what
770
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:37.760
did this mean? What did that mean?
771
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:42.159
And it might be fruitless because it could just be
772
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:45.639
written people go in a cave and encounter monsters.
773
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:48.639
But it's fun that you can even have the discussion.
774
00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:51.199
Right, and the fact that there's even that possibility.
775
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:56.239
Yes, and we're still drawing two themes that are very
776
00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:58.320
real regardless of what the intent.
777
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:01.440
Of the writing, especially given what this ra can do,
778
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:04.559
and say, Yeah, if y'all want to know how well
779
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:08.400
this sequel went, I would love to hear the rotten
780
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:11.519
tomatoes from critics. Now, this is only forty one reviews.
781
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:15.400
It came out in two thousand and nine. You do
782
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:16.079
you want me to do?
783
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:18.280
Y'all want to play the game four years to get
784
00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:19.079
that made? Okay?
785
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:23.599
Yep, you said there's forty critics forty one reviews.
786
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:26.039
I hate playing I hate playing my own game, but
787
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:29.840
I'm going to say it's not as good as the original.
788
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:31.840
March did not direct this either.
789
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:34.960
Yes, I'm going to go forty seven percent.
790
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:39.119
And I and I think now Sarah Sean and McDonald
791
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:40.079
does come back for this.
792
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:44.519
Yes, I'm going to say thirty four.
793
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:47.119
Okay, you know what, guys, I'm gonna speed this up
794
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:52.519
a little because what critics is forty nine? Was right there?
795
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:56.079
The popcorn meter that has over ten thousand plus ratings
796
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:56.719
is three.
797
00:42:57.480 --> 00:42:57.920
How about that?
798
00:42:58.679 --> 00:42:59.079
How about that?
799
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:01.159
So that's how that went?
800
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:04.199
All right? So I'm not gonna watch that all right, Nope,
801
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:08.079
I'm not gonna fall for that one again. In an
802
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:11.239
interview with Vulture magazine in twenty twenty one, director Neil
803
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:15.679
marsh revealed that during production, an executive from the French
804
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:19.440
distributor of the film suggested a scene where the girls
805
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:22.239
would strip naked and jump into a pool in the cave,
806
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:26.119
and his response was to him, if that's the movie
807
00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:30.159
you're making, I quit now. So good for him.
808
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:33.840
I had a feeling that boobs were gonna be involved
809
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:36.039
when you said they had a suggestion.
810
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:40.679
Yeah, I mean it's a horror film with five lead actresses,
811
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:43.679
you kind of expect there to be a booby's Yeah.
812
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:45.639
What history of the genre.
813
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:48.800
Yeah, but good for good for you, being like, I
814
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:49.880
ain't making that garbage.
815
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:50.880
Yeah, don't put that shit.
816
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:52.719
You can watch you can watch all that other horror
817
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:55.440
shit from the seventies, eighties nothing.
818
00:43:55.599 --> 00:44:00.239
Yeah, yeah, And speaking of the seventies and eighties, no,
819
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:04.639
Marshall cited films The Texas Chainsaw, Masacre, The Thing, and
820
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:08.960
Deliverance as influences and establishing the tension in the film.
821
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:10.840
How about that. I like it.
822
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:14.760
Nobody got raped in the Descent though, so thank god
823
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:15.000
for that.
824
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:16.039
Thank god.
825
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:17.239
Yeah, fair enough.
826
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:22.000
Yeah. This has become a bit of a cult favorite
827
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:26.039
in the horror genre, especially being praised for its all
828
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:31.800
female casts, the intense atmosphere, and its relentless pacing, because
829
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:34.599
even though you don't get the certain aspects of the
830
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:39.000
horror until later in the film, it's it's it's pacing
831
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:40.239
is perfect.
832
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:44.400
I feel I saw a few reviews when I was
833
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:49.360
combing through Rotten Tomatoes from fans, and they struck me
834
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:52.480
as like typical, I don't want to say typical fans
835
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:56.039
of like B movie horror movies, stuff like that. And
836
00:44:56.320 --> 00:44:59.960
they kind of complained about this being, Oh, it's too slow,
837
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:03.159
you don't see the monsters quickly enough.
838
00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:04.599
It's not real horror.
839
00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:07.960
Was the kind of vibe I from a certain crowd
840
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:11.039
of people on the Rotten Tomatoes.
841
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:16.760
Maybe it was letterbox something like that. I I don't know, man,
842
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:20.480
I this is this is real horror to me.
843
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:23.239
Yeah. Well, and also, and I think we talked about
844
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:25.920
it when I was asking you your initial thoughts after
845
00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:28.840
seeing it for the first time is that I don't
846
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:34.880
know if it I don't want to see those crawlers
847
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:38.760
for like an hour and ten minutes. I think it ruins.
848
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:42.440
It ruins it for everybody. Yeah, and given the way
849
00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:47.360
that they are shown, it's way more effective doing it
850
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:51.360
the way that Neil Marshall did it. Yeah, than saying
851
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:54.519
oh why could why can't show this? Because you know what?
852
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:56.480
Then then they would say it gets it gets too
853
00:45:56.559 --> 00:46:01.199
tedious and it gets repetitive because that's all they do,
854
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:04.280
like you can't you you know, you got to save
855
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:08.679
that and they have again, they have the right setting
856
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:14.360
to stretch this, to have the horror, the creature feature stuff.
857
00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:17.920
Yeah until the last thirty minutes and I but yeah,
858
00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:20.440
to say it's not real horror, that's that sounds like
859
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:21.960
somebody that like, I don't know.
860
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:26.199
They probably probably does want like two hours of just
861
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:27.280
killing monsters and.
862
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:29.039
Gores and guts and that's about it.
863
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:29.519
Yeah.
864
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:32.280
Well, I each their own, But I don't think the
865
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:35.880
Descent would be what it is if that's what, If that's.
866
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:39.119
What he gave you, I would not knock points for
867
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:41.719
this being set up the way that it is. No,
868
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:44.920
I personally enjoy the slow burn aspect of it.
869
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:48.480
For something like this and the reveal and everything you get,
870
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:53.440
and also talking about what the Descent may also be about. Yeah,
871
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:56.400
he gives time for both in an hour and a
872
00:46:56.440 --> 00:47:02.079
half movie. Yeah, that's that's a that's a real strength
873
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:08.400
that a lot of filmmakers can't can't come to grips with. Yeah,
874
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:13.480
because there's this there is this urgency. Oh let's see,
875
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:15.800
let's see what it is. And then you know, people
876
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:18.079
bitch all the time about you know, why did we
877
00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:20.840
see this? An how we're in It's like it's you know,
878
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:24.480
listen for us wrestling fans, you know, if you start
879
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:26.719
to see Undertaker all the time like you do, he
880
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:27.239
gets old.
881
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:30.679
He gets old, it's all. And he is old.
882
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:35.000
Uh. And I think he's actually dead just walking around
883
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.199
with that beautiful fake ponytail.
884
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:41.199
That's uh, that's for the last thirty years.
885
00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:48.000
Yeah, at least bless uh Uh. Tobin Bell, who's best
886
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:51.159
known as Jigsaw from the Sau series, has said in
887
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:53.280
an interview that this is one of his favorite horror
888
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:54.360
films of all time.
889
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:55.480
Wow.
890
00:47:56.159 --> 00:48:00.159
I mean listen, I'm not an officionado. I'm not uh,
891
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:02.760
you know, I haven't seen a whole lot of horror,
892
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:06.559
but yeah, this is probably one of my favorites.
893
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:07.159
Yeah.
894
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:09.920
So I can't I can't take issue with that.
895
00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:12.960
Me saying it's in my top twenty is not an
896
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:16.000
insult to the film because I've seen so many horror films.
897
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:18.639
But I think that's praised me putting it in my
898
00:48:18.719 --> 00:48:21.920
top twenty, and it's something I will regularly rewatch during
899
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:22.719
spooky season.
900
00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:27.159
Yeah, yeah, it's It's not one of mine, but it's
901
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:31.760
also one that I in a good way. I really
902
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:36.880
couldn't just turn it on during spooky season, yeah and
903
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:37.199
just have.
904
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:37.639
It going on.
905
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:41.440
It's not it doesn't have that same kind of feel,
906
00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:44.199
but it's in a good way because I feel like
907
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:48.519
turning that on it's almost too tense for a relaxed
908
00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:51.000
thing like I can watch Jason Voorhies. I mean, you know,
909
00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:54.519
it's just a can't but this hits the noise. Yeah,
910
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:55.360
it HiT's different.
911
00:48:55.480 --> 00:48:57.760
You gotta you gotta sink into this almost. I think
912
00:48:57.800 --> 00:48:58.239
it's got a.
913
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.880
I knew that's where you're going. Well played. The actresses
914
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:08.639
were giving minimal rehearsal with the creatures to prevent authentic
915
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:12.039
reactions I mentioned earlier. Some scenes were also shot out
916
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:17.000
of sequence to maintain unpredictability, and then the tight tightest
917
00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:20.480
crawl scenes caused genuine panic for some of those cast members.
918
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:24.239
Yeah. I hey, I don't blame anybody for that.
919
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:29.519
Yeah, And that really sums up all I have for
920
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:36.599
the dissent. Obviously, there's no fucking quotable quotes other than
921
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:40.960
screams that I can think of, But yeah, I I
922
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:44.039
this is a movie. I didn't think all three of
923
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:46.800
us were gonna be on the same board on board
924
00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:50.960
with liking so much, but there shows there's hope for
925
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:51.920
this podcast yet.
926
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:56.719
I f I told Brandon this is one that I'm
927
00:49:56.800 --> 00:49:59.519
gonna be on the lookout for from now on my
928
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:02.880
my visits to danger Zone Video out here in Mount Juliet.
929
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:04.719
I want to add this one to my physical collection.
930
00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:07.679
I will say that's where I have it on DVD,
931
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:09.159
and that's where I got it from. I got it
932
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:10.199
from Brittany last year.
933
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:11.639
How about that? There we go.
934
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:13.800
I feel like I've seen it. I feel like I
935
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:16.480
have seen it there. I don't know if it's the DVD, but.
936
00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:20.159
All right, there we go what I have.
937
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:24.880
So we talked earlier, Brandon came up with this episode's question,
938
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:28.119
so favorite horror film settings.
939
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:33.880
So I don't know if it's because this film is
940
00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:36.679
so fresh, but I would absolutely have to have the
941
00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:41.559
descent in this Mount Rushmore. I haven't even seen the shining,
942
00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:43.760
but that is honestly The first thing that came to
943
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:47.079
mind was because like people take.
944
00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:51.440
Trips to that hotel because of that movie. So that
945
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:52.599
popped into my head.
946
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:55.400
I thought about and maybe this is just because we
947
00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:58.480
did a podcast about nos Faratu and I kind of
948
00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:02.519
learned the impact that it had on film and how
949
00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:07.239
like they packed up and went to some castle in
950
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:11.039
Slovakia to shoot that movie, which like back then was like,
951
00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:15.480
oh wow, on location is insane filmmaking. But I think
952
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:21.920
about Nosferatu and what that castle did for that movie at.
953
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:23.480
A time, even in Robert Eggs.
954
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:30.440
Yeah, and then I was I was going to ask you, guys,
955
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:32.440
will you give me the Lighthouse as horror?
956
00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:35.840
I almost put that as my top four. I replaced
957
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:38.480
it with something else, but I would give it. I
958
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:40.079
would give it to you. I almost did it.
959
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:41.639
It's your list, not mine, sir.
960
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:48.079
I Lighthouse Slash. I had Lighthouse Slash Island like just yeah, because.
961
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:48.280
That is.
962
00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:51.280
That's one of my favorite movies.
963
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:54.199
And if we're if we're okay with counting that film
964
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:57.480
as horror, I would have it in there because that's
965
00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:01.239
I mean. And and Robert Eggers, oh, you know, the
966
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:03.960
attention to detail is there, and it is one of
967
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:05.800
those movies where like the setting is.
968
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:07.559
It's maddening all the way.
969
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.679
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, So those those would be my four.
970
00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:13.840
The Descent, the Shining, which I haven't even seen, right,
971
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:18.760
the lighthouse, and what was the other one I said, no,
972
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:20.280
Saratu nineteen twenty two.
973
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:24.039
I so I had a few. I thought, I have
974
00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:26.320
seen the Shining, and I think it's a great location.
975
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:27.000
Yeah.
976
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:28.800
I also thought of another one, but I'm not going
977
00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:30.480
to say in case it's my cash is. But I
978
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:34.480
sort of went with the horror movies that I like
979
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:40.920
the location, but I also enjoy the movie. Okay, because
980
00:52:41.280 --> 00:52:44.360
the shining's fine, but I'm not but it's a great location.
981
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:49.199
So I went with Campe Crystal Lake from Friday the thirteenth. Okay,
982
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I also went with no Seratus Castle. I'm counting the
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old one and the new one. I've put of them
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in there.
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Yeah.
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The one that I took the lighthouse out and replaced
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it with was us Outpost thirty one from the thing
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Kurt Russell's great.
989
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I never saw that.
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It is basically in the Arctic snowstorm and it's very creepy,
991
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but it's very tense, and I always think about like again,
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isolation away from everybody and you're dealing with this ship.
993
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You would love the thingony, I really, I'm gonna.
994
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Definitely a horror film. You could watch it like in
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the winter if you like the way you watch fil.
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A winter film.
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Okay, yeah, all right, I would almost say watch it
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for that. That's what everybody tells me about The Shining too.
999
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:41.519
It's like watch it in January.
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That's fair too.
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Yeah.
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And the.
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The Ship an Alien Oh, okay, it's us. I wrote
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it down. I think us C s s no Stro
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Nostromo Nostromo. Anyway, it's the ship in Alien all right.
1006
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:04.039
Well none of mine have been mentioned, no, nice, I
1007
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:09.119
have a arnoable mentioned. And that's Reagan's bedroom from the Exorcists.
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00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:13.960
Oh that is a good one. Yeah, a good location.
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00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:17.719
Yeah. I went with the cabin from Evil Dead.
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That was a good one.
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And then secondly forty two sixty seven Roxbury Street and
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Simi Valley, California, which is better known as the Home
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00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:33.920
from the Poltergeist. Okay, that movie. That movie got me
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as a kid. Loved that movie. I went with the
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Abadon Hotel from Hell House LLC. I don't know if
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any of you have seen that.
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00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:45.960
But that's pretty new, isn't it.
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Well, the first one came out a good ten years ago.
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Oh, I'm thinking of this last one. That's not good.
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But yeah, well the last one was horrible. We're gonna
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pretend that didn't exist.
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00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:56.760
But yeah, I know what you're talking about.
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That is the hotel from the original film. Okay, and
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then to eighty two Green Street in London, the town
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home in The Conjuring two. That is one of the
1026
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scariest movies to me. Ever, is the Second Conjuring I.
1027
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I really thought Bates Motel would be.
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I'm not a fan of psychot but my wife would
1029
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have put that at the top of her list.
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And I think that's it and what it wasn't my intention,
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but I'm actually glad it worked out this way. Was
1032
00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:29.719
it was more of even like Stony Knows the location
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of the Shining just because of how popular and how
1034
00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:36.440
iconic it is. Yeah, but it also seems like then
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like and I think it's kind of what mcash and
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I did is that I like the locations, but I
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also went with the films that like, I like to
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00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:48.639
see us because the Shining of Baits Motel, I think
1039
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that's probably the two things everyone like if you just
1040
00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:54.519
think of a of a horror situation, but when you
1041
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get specific like the Exorcist Bedroom for instance, like yeah,
1042
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there's stuff like that, but I listen, it's not a
1043
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great movie. But I even like like ghost Ship just
1044
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because of well when it's on, So.
1045
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You think about that, I'm like, you know what, I
1046
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really loved walking through the woods in a violent nature.
1047
00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:15.920
That movie fucking sucked.
1048
00:56:16.039 --> 00:56:19.920
Well, movie sucks, but I didn't hate it as much
1049
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as you guys, But that would be a fair assessment
1050
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:24.840
of it's a great like and that's the thing and
1051
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:27.800
and honestly, and I guess it's probably happened, but like camp,
1052
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:32.559
Crystal Lake just has that feeling that and I don't
1053
00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:35.320
as a kid, I don't remember a lot of stuff
1054
00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:39.480
at like around the water and camp until like later. Yeah,
1055
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:43.000
so for that, it's like, you know what, especially in
1056
00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:47.400
that time, what a better spot when like obviously, I
1057
00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:50.760
mean camps are still popular, but you know, like the
1058
00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:53.320
reason like some went there is like kids are going
1059
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:56.519
you know, yeah, look, I mean so it was, but
1060
00:56:56.960 --> 00:56:59.400
everybody had some really good ones. That's that's funny that
1061
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:02.280
you mentioned Lighthouse I had it. I literally had it,
1062
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:03.360
and then I thought of the thing.
1063
00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:07.519
I'm like, oh, I like that one better, but fair enough?
1064
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:10.679
Cool A good question, Good question, Brandon.
1065
00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:14.880
Good question, Brandon. Maybe maybe maybe there's there's a future
1066
00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:15.880
for you in this business.
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Maybe So cheers, cheers.
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00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:22.320
Guys to another episode of Drinking with where we've explored
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00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:24.039
the films that have come of age, just like a
1070
00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:27.039
fine wine, as we raise our glasses to movies turning
1071
00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:29.559
twenty one, we've laughed, reminisced, and maybe shed a tear.
1072
00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:34.159
Two really not well, we sweated some tears over this time.
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00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:37.000
It was classic. So until next time, your drink's be cold,
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00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:40.880
your conversation is lively, and your movie night's unforgettable. Drink responsiblely.
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00:57:40.920 --> 00:57:43.039
Remember AG's is just a number of but great films.
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00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:45.480
Or forever again. I'm Stephen mccash. You can find me
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00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:48.719
at MC Underscore Cast seventy five, on Twitter at Stephen
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00:57:48.760 --> 00:57:52.239
mccash on letterbox gentlemen, tell these fine folks how to
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00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:53.880
find you this spooky season.
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At Stony Keeley, at Soberbros. Network and Nashville Movie Dispatched
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00:57:59.000 --> 00:57:59.920
on subsec dot.
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00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:03.840
Com and at Sir Brandon V on Twitter. Sir Brandon
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00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:08.280
on letterbox, and remember don't forget to watch Para Norman.
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And we'll see you next time, because I have to
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return some videotapes