The Alignment Advantage: From Marine Corps to CEO Clarity with Robert Heath Sr.

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Raul: hey, welcome back to the podcast.
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Today I have Robert Heath Senior.
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He's the CEO of the Legacy Leadership
Consulting Group, and he's on a mission
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to empower high achieving professionals
to break free from overwhelm and
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align their lives with purpose and
lead with clarity and confidence.
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welcome to the pod.
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Thank you for having me, brother.
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It's a pleasure to be here.
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Raul: when you get to truth, the
truth starts to rhyme or when
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you get to what works right.
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A
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Mm-hmm.
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Raul: our work that we're getting to, a
lot of the people that I talk to, a lot
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of more experienced professionals and
especially leaders, we start saying what
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sounds to be the same thing over and over
again, but it's probably because we've
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arrived to similar life experiences.
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And one of the key things is the
reflection of what success is.
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What is actually success.
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How do we define success?
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Is success in the bank account?
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Is it in the clicks?
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Is it in the likes?
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Is it in the, uh, you know, the a
hundred, 1 million, 2 million followers?
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And I
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Mm-hmm.
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Raul: through a crisis of identity and
success in actions in our culture today.
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We're recording late summer 25 and uh,
yeah, I wanna start with that, uh, simple
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Yeah.
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Yeah, no, great question.
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And the, the reality of that question is,
the answer is yes, and the answer's no.
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Right.
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All the things that you said, does
that, is that what success is for?
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Depending on the person?
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Yes.
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Right.
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But my definition and, and the way
that you kind of navigate that space,
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I firmly believe that everybody
is on this planet for a reason.
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Everybody has a purpose.
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Everybody has a gift.
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Everybody has greatness within them.
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And therefore, success is aligning
your life, aligning your actions,
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aligning your attitudes, aligning
what you do, both in your thoughts.
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And in your daily activities
with that purpose such that you
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can be the best you possible.
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Right.
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I love how, um, coach Prime, Deon Sanders
talks about, you know, when, when he's
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teaching his children and when he's
helping raise his children, he always let
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them know, like, I don't want, I don't
hold you to the standard of being me.
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There's only one me.
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And I'm, I'm awesome,
but there's only one me.
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The standard that I want you to live to
is to be the best you that you can be.
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And that, in my opinion,
is what success is.
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Raul: Yeah, and I think there's
a, I want to, so we're gonna do
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this pod a little differently.
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I'm not just gonna ask questions.
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It's gonna challenge your ideas because
this is something that I've been
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seeing wrestling with identifying.
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Just seeing in my client's businesses
and other people that I've helped in
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their business and lives, um, sometimes
the activities that we do, sometimes the
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thing that we define success, once you
start taking those activities, like you
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mentioned, it's a, it's a manifestation
of who you are and the greatness within
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you, which I completely agree with.
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But when you start taking action,
but the actions required don't align
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with your identity, something's
broken and there's misalignment.
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So it's not always going to
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Yes.
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Raul: in my opinion.
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That you are the perfect identity.
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You have everything ready right now.
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I think we need to enhance
different parts of us, including
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our identity, to match the actions.
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Um,
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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Raul: sometimes I've clients
stopping businesses making more money
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Mm-hmm.
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Raul: Changing, changing directions.
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And I think it's
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Yeah,
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Raul: caught up with the actions, but,
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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that's right.
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And I 'cause identity is one of the, the,
the, the strongest drivers of activity.
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Right?
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And if you remember, this is the
reason why I talked about alignment,
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Raul: Yeah.
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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right?
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And it's not just alignment of
actions with the destination.
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It's also alignment of your thought
processes and how you see yourself.
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See, identity is a way that we
think about the circumstances
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that we encounter in the world.
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Right.
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If you ask somebody, and you know, Tony
Robbins talks about this a lot, right?
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When you ask a non-smoker if
they want a cigarette, they
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don't say, oh, no, no, thank you.
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I don't want a cigarette.
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They say, I don't smoke.
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As in that behavior is completely
out of alignment with who I am.
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Of course, I don't want that thing
because I don't do that, and it's a
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completely different understanding
of your interaction with the thing.
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There are people that build
businesses, but still have a poverty
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mindset or a scarcity mindset.
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There are people that have been
to the Olympics, but they never
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see themselves as winners.
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Right, and they can never get over
the hump even though they have all
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the talent, all the capabilities.
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You know this in, in professional
athletics, you were talking about the
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top 1% of 1% of athletes in the world.
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So it's not a question of whether
or not they're capable of doing
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the work, of doing the job.
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Everybody that's in the
NBA was the man, right?
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And every female basketball player
that was this, N-N-W-N-B-A was
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the woman in her town or in their
school or in whatever it was.
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So it's not a question of whether
they're capable, but there's a
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difference between the mindset, right?
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Kobe titled it Mamba Mindset, right?
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There's a difference between
the mindset of those that align
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with that highest vision or that
highest sense of themselves.
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It has nothing to do with the activities.
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The activities come from the thoughts.
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The activities come from the
mindset, not the other way around.
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Now, the cool part.
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And this is where, if you've ever
read, um, Psycho-Cybernetics, right?
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The, the cool part about the way
that our mind works is that it's a,
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it's a, uh, a cybernetic system where
the way that we think influences our
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actions and our actions, therefore,
can influence the way that we think.
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You can smile and it will make you
feel better even if you are not
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feeling good when you decide to smile,
because there's certain things that
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happen in the body that then trigger.
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Certain experiences that
the mind picks up on.
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Right.
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And that's the reason why when we, and
when you're in a, in a, in a movie or in
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a, a speech or in something like that,
they've done studies that are so cool
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where when somebody's telling a story.
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And they've put everybody in the audience
on kind of like an EEG or EKG, where
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they're monitoring heart waves and
brain waves and body bodily functions.
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Now, everybody will start
out at a different space.
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So let's say you're at 110 beats a minute.
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I'm at 90 beats a minute.
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Somebody's at 60 beats a minute.
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We won't beat at the same number of
heartbeats a minute, but our heart
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rates will increase and decrease
together along with that story, because.
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What's happening is that what
we're thinking is changing what
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we're feeling and then what we're
feeling is changing what we're
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thinking, and we can even sync up.
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That's the power of alignment, and
when you can get that happening where
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your thoughts, your identity, like
you said, impacts your values, impacts
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your beliefs, impacts your actions,
not only your conscious actions, but
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your habitual unconscious actions, then
your results start to change because
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all of that is now in alignment.
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Raul: Bring it down Darth a little bit.
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Like how do you work with your clients
to, uh, to kind of create that alignment?
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Because usually busy type A, most likely,
if they're leading organizations or teams
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or, uh, or any, any sort of that, um.
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Because I, I agree with you, but like,
make it practical because some of the,
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Yeah.
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Raul: uh, depending on the person
hearing this right now, some
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might be too abstract and too,
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Mm-hmm.
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Raul: much out there.
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Yeah, no, it makes perfect sense.
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And, and to be clear, right, I work
with CEOs, C-suite professionals, right?
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Business owners, lawyers,
doctors, all of the like, and
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everybody is too busy, right?
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Too cool for school, right?
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Everybody's too busy to do a lot
of this work when you first start.
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But the whole thing about it is in the
Marine Corps, we have a saying that goes
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slow, is smooth, smooth is fast, right?
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And it's important that sometimes
we have to slow down to speed up.
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And one of the biggest things
that I do with my clients is.
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We don't just look at the fact that
I'm saying we've gotta get aligned.
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We look at what misalignment
is costing you, right?
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It's not just a question of
can you do this other thing?
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Can you get the pleasure right?
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We, as human beings, we run from pain
more than we run towards pleasure.
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So one of the things that I do with
my clients, and one of the things
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I encourage people listening on the
pod to ask themselves is, what is it
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costing you to be out of alignment?
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What business objective, what
familial objective, what stress?
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Right.
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I remember I was just run, running a round
table with a bunch of executives, uh,
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the other day and one of the things that
they were talking about was just the lack
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of peace of mind being out of alignment.
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So that's the first thing
that we wanna look at.
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'cause it's not a.
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You know, just, just continue
doing the same thing and not have
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any cause or I have to slow down.
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But to your, to your more pointed
question, how do we slow down?
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The first thing we have to
know is where are we going?
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What does success look like?
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And some people have no idea what that is.
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Right.
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We think we do.
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Right.
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That's where keeping up with
the Joneses comes into play.
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Keeping up with the Joneses is only a
thing if you don't know what you want.
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Right.
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I've never gone.
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And bought an item at a restaurant
because it was on somebody else's
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plate, unless I didn't know what
I wanted at that restaurant.
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Right.
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I've never gone and been
like, oh, you know what?
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I want a steak.
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Oh, but no, I saw your plate.
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Now I want chicken.
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That's never happened right
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Raul: one, and no
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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now.
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Raul: from steak to chicken.
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Right, exactly.
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Right.
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So, but at the end of the day,
oftentimes we don't know that we,
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we don't know what we don't know.
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And oftentimes we're doing stuff right.
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I've got a client of mine
right now, a friend of mine.
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He just became CEO of a company.
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And part of what he was
doing in the beginning was of
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course, just doing the stuff.
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He had been the CFO of the company,
now he's the CEO of the company.
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He's a multinational company, and
he was just fixing the problems that
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he had seen when he was CFO in the
first kind of six months of being CEO.
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But then he ran out of those
problems to fix, and so now it's
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like, well, okay, well what.
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What do I like?
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What's my vision?
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What do I actually want for this?
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I thought that I wanted to go this way,
but now I fixed that stuff way faster than
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I thought I was gonna be able to fix it.
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So now what?
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And that's where a lot
of people get stuck.
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That's where a lot of people, right?
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It's, it's, it's the dog
that catches the car, right?
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It's like, what do you do now when
you've hit all of those goals that
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you have, when you've proven to
yourself that if you put your mind
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to something, you can make it happen.
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So.
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The biggest thing is really getting clear
on what success means to you, and not
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just from an intellectual perspective,
but from a perspective where it resonates
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with, like you were saying before,
with your identity of who you are.
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Raul: So how do we do that?
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So, uh, just to give you
some, some realistic stuff.
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So when I finished the, the Ironman, it
kind of had like, like the half Ironman.
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I had
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Mm-hmm.
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Raul: after.
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I'm like, I did this big thing.
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It was big for me at least.
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Now
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Mm-hmm.
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Raul: Working
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Yep.
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Raul: the same was
actually kind of boring.
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And I needed like a
bigger challenge, but I
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Mm-hmm.
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Raul: step into a bigger
challenge at that moment.
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So that's like a
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Exactly.
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Raul: Um,
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Yeah.
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Raul: success, I mean, I get it.
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So success can be a plethora of things,
obviously has to be in alignment with
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the good and has to be in alignment with
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Mm-hmm.
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Raul: moral virtue.
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But the, um, yeah.
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So how, how do we work through that?
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How would, how do we slow
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Yeah.
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So.
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Perfect example.
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So let's go ahead and look at
the the, the Half Ironman, right?
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Because I had a similar experience.
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I ran one marathon in my life.
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I'm never running another one.
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'cause I had fit, that
was a bucket list item.
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I'm good.
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But
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Raul: then my son turns out to
be a runner, so I'm training for
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probably like 15 more, but he's only
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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yeah, you.
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Yeah, exactly.
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It's crazy.
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You have fun with that.
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I'm, uh, I'm, I'm glad that
my son is a lot like me and he
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doesn't like to run long distance.
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He's a wide receiver.
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He plays football.
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He's like, I gotta run
a hundred meters, dad.
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That's about as far.
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Exactly, exactly.
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He's like, 400, 200, 100.
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That's what I'm running.
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I'm like, that's my son.
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All right, let's go.
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That's,
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but no, but, but I, I understand
exactly how that feels.
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'cause I, once, once I got finished
with it, there was this kind
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of, like you said, this almost.
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A a, a blues, right?
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And that's, that's natural.
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'cause a lot of people think that we
get joy out of accomplishing goals.
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The actual reality is that there's
a sense of grief when we accomplish
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a goal, because the journey is
actually what brings us joy.
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Getting closer and making
progress towards goals is actually
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what tri triggers the dopamine
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Raul: Yeah.
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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in our brains.
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And so when we get to the end,
there's a, there's a culmination,
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Raul: So I cut
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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right?
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And if we don't.
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Raul: I need, I need to get the new feed
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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That's it.
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That's it.
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And so,
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Raul: some more, get some more dopamine
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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right.
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And so in that situation, the
whole key is to remember to attach
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everything that you're doing.
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This is what we talk about when
we talk about purpose, right?
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When you can realize that you
have a life's purpose, right?
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That.
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Is a North star for everything
that you're choosing.
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So the first thing that we do with, I
work with my clients is I don't talk
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about what are you gonna do tomorrow
or what are you gonna do next week?
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Or what are you gonna do next month?
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Or what are you gonna do next year?
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We really get clear on
what is your identity?
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Why are you here?
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As you look back over your life and as you
look into the future, what is the reason?
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What's the the one galvanizing thing?
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That you know is what you will
do no matter what career it is.
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You have, no matter whe whether you're
helping out at your kid's school,
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whether you're working, uh, in the
community, or whether you're helping a
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company, whether you're with your wife,
whatever it is that you do, what is
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the thing that you bring to the world?
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Because once you know what that
is, now we can say, okay, what's
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the next thing that's in alignment
with that that excites you?
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What's the next thing
on that pathway that.
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It actually makes you kind
of spring with anticipation.
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And in that space, what we also
create is this loop where you can
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celebrate milestones without ever
having to have the down feeling
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of, oh my God, the journey is over.
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'cause you're, this is just a
part of a larger journey that
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doesn't end until you're gone.
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Raul: Hmm.
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Yeah, like the infinite game.
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Okay, so that's, that's
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Exactly.
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Raul: Yeah, that's pretty good.
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Yeah,
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Raul: All right, so you do that, you
focus around the bigger piece, but then.
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You align the activities or
priorities based on that.
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But, you
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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exactly.
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And we set priorities based on that.
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That's how you set your milestone.
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Raul: or a priority towards that.
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But, um, do you know which, um, 'cause
I, I think a lot of leaders, like
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when they're, when they're doing this,
they probably have too many options.
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Too many things,
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Mm-hmm.
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Mm-hmm.
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Raul: shiny object syndrome
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Exactly
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Raul: how do you help them decipher
so they can move in the right path
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and test and then from their switch if
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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right.
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No, that's a great,
that's a great question.
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So there's two things that we do, right,
and we talked about defining success.
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That's the bigger picture, right?
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But it feels like an elephant.
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It's too big to eat all at once a year.
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Like, oh my God.
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Then there the overwhelm comes in,
how do I do everything in this life?
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Then that's where we
get to step two, right?
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And we have a a five step
process for mastering your time.
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Step two is then you set
and align your priorities.
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Most people know how to say what's
important to them, but then the
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question of, which one do I do first?
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Which one do I do Second is the
thing that is so difficult 'cause
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it feels like I have so many
options, so many opportunities.
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But the reality is when you look
at all of the things that you can
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do, there are some of them that.
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Call to be done now, and there are
some that you can do at a later time.
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And the analogy that I always
like to use is Right master chess
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players can think, you know,
2025 moves ahead in a chess game.
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And so the ability to set your
priorities is really important, but
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you also have to be able to align
your priorities because if you are a
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master chess player, but you do move 14
when you should have done move three.
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You are not gonna look like and have the
results of a master chess player, right?
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Doing things out of order will mess it up.
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And so there's, as you look at the things
that you're trying to get done, one of
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the biggest things to be able to do is
to see, and to, again, and this goes
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with identity, this goes with values,
this goes with beliefs and a lot of the
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work that we do, I don't know, um, if
we talked about this, uh, before, but
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like, I'm a master practitioner of NLP
neurolinguistic programming, right?
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And there's a, there's an important.
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Element that we know it with n LP of the
sub, of having the subconscious mind and
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the conscious mind in alignment with each
other and moving in the same direction.
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And when the subconscious mind is in
alignment with the conscious mind,
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it's not just an intellectual knowing.
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It's more of a.
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Resonance, a whole being resonance
that lets you know that yes,
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this is where I need to be going.
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And so one of the things that
I do with my clients is help
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them to recognize that feeling.
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And everybody's had it before.
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That feeling of being in flow,
that feeling of everything, just
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feeling like right, you had the
Midas touch, it was your lucky day.
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Everything just goes exactly
like it's supposed to go.
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And it's not just an intellectual thing.
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There's a, there's a deep body
knowing of what that feels like
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Raul: Yeah,
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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and what we do.
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Exactly true knowing.
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Right?
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And what we do is we help our clients
to become accustomed to what that
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feels like so that it's not the
abstraction, but rather it's the norm.
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Right.
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The the interesting thing, again to,
I, I like to use analogies 'cause
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it, it paints a better picture than
just me trying to say it in words.
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Right.
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If you look at a airplane that's
flying from New York to la
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right, that airplane is only.
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On its pathway, aligned on its pathway.
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1% of the trip
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Raul: Oh yeah.
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And then the, the pilots, they
have to adjust, of course, adjust.
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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a exactly the, it's constantly
adjusting 'cause it gets off track
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and then it gets back on track.
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But the way that it adjusts is because
the autopilot or the pilots right with
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their instruments know exactly what
being on the proper trajectory is.
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Now wind happens, or Right, they've
gotta move around a, a cloud.
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Um, system or whatever the case
may be, so they get off track
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and that's what happens in life.
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We have things that move us and pull us
off track, but when you have that deep
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knowing of what being on track looks
like, you know how to get back to it.
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And so what we focus on first
is what does it feel like?
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What does it, what does that
deep knowing of being aligned?
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Because once you're aligned, once you
know what that North star is right?
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In the Marine Corps and
we're doing land navigation.
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Your whole goal is to get
back onto your azimuth, right?
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To get back on to the line
that you're trying to go.
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Now you might get off, you might get
lost, you might get a, a couple steps
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or whatever, but you're constantly
paying attention to what are the
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landmarks or what are the things
that you've, that you've put into
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your pathway that help you to know,
okay, I'm back on pa on, on course.
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So, so the, the, to your question,
I think when people are struggling
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trying to figure out what do I
do next, or how do I do this?
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It seems like it, it, it, it would
be, it's, it's almost like a throwaway
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step, but it's the most important
step, which is you have to know
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what it feels like to be on track.
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You have to know what it feels
like to be on path first, and
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that's one of the things that we
do when we're setting in aligning.
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We're not just doing it
intellectual exercise of,
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what can I put here and Right.
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The jigsaw puzzle.
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That's not what's happening at
each step of the way, you go ahead
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and you allow for yourself to test
it against your internal knowing.
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Raul: Hmm.
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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And once that plan is in place,
the other thing that we do is we
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allow for ourselves to realize that
no plan survives first contact.
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Raul: Oh
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Right?
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And there's a, there's a great
quote by, um, the late great Dr.
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Maya Angelo, and she says it this way.
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She says, give yourself grace for what
you didn't know, when you didn't know it.
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When you know better, do better.
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And so often we get down a pathway because
we had information and we thought this
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pathway was the way, and we don't realize
that sometimes it takes us going down
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this pathway to learn the thing that
then solidifies for us that this pathway
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was the one that we needed to go down.
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Raul: that's
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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But for going,
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Raul: door, then you'll see the
other doors that are behind that
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door and like, oh, okay, now.
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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that's the key.
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Raul: back
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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but for going down that path, you
would've never had the certainty that
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you have that this is the right pathway.
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Raul: Yeah.
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No,
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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So it's, and, and you know, a lot of
people will feel like it's wasted.
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It's not wasted.
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That was the, that was the
manner, that was the method.
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That was the means of you having the
degree of certainty that was necessary
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to have the courage to go down that
pathway that was actually scarier
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than the one that you tried at first.
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And had you tried to go down
this pathway the first time, you
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would've turned around and run back?
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Raul: Yeah, no, that makes sense.
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It's more a waste of time
to wait than to take action.
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Um,
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Yeah.
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Raul: a complete note on that,
um, on the true knowing like.
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It has to start intellectually, but
I think because we have the duality
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of, of mind and spirit, so we have
to actually feel it in the body.
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But it's not,
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Exactly.
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Raul: of people getting misled
that it just, just feely type.
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And I
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Mm-hmm.
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Raul: you're just gonna get
misled to just your appetites and
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appetites come and go, like hunger.
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So be,
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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A hundred percent.
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A hundred percent, yes.
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And, and that's again where that whole
idea of alignment comes into play.
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It's understanding what
are the things right.
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Y one thing cannot be in
alignment with itself, right?
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You have to have one or two or
more things in order for them to
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be in alignment with one another.
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Right?
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G in geometry.
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And when you think about, um, the, the
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Raul: That makes sense.
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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right, when you think about the
second dimension, right, align.
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Is the connection between
two points, right?
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A point is a single dimension.
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You have two points, and now you
can create the second dimension,
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which is a line between those.
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In order for you to be in
alignment, there has to be, as
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you were talking about, right?
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Our conscious knowing has to be
in alignment with something else,
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which would be our deep knowing.
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And then we add the third
thing to that, which is.
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The actions that we take based
on that alignment then have to be
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in alignment with those as well.
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So our results, our actions, and our
results have to be in alignment with each
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other and in alignment with the vision
that we put in front of us to begin with.
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That's the whole iterative process, right?
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We create a hypothesis.
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Where this is what we
think is going to happen.
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We do an experiment and then we either
get results that are in alignment with
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that, which tells us to keep doing that
thing, or we get results that are out of
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alignment with that, which causes us to
question how do we change the experiment
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or the hypothesis to make sure that
the results wind up being in alignment.
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That is the whole process
in what we do in our lives.
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Raul: Yeah, no, that makes sense.
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The other thing, uh, point is to
like, you got the directions to
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point your arrows to, like the line
of alignment, but uh, I think you
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gotta point it to the highest aim.
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So making sure that
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Exactly.
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Raul: um, help
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Exactly.
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Raul: this a bit 'cause
we hear this all the time.
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Your subconscious mind
with your conscious mind.
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And that's again,
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Mm-hmm.
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Raul: very.
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Abstract can touch it.
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Puff of air.
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What are some
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Yeah.
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Raul: to really tame the conscious mind
in alignment with the the unconscious?
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Right.
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No, that's a great question and I think.
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One thing that I would say is I
would, I would change one word and
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I wouldn't try to tame the conscious
mind, the subconscious mind as much
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as I would try to connect with.
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Raul: Hmm.
00:23:06.025 --> 00:23:06.026
Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Right.
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There's a natural relationship
between the conscious mind and the
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subconscious mind that already exists.
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The, the, the big thing is, is more
for us to become attuned with that
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natural rhythm and natural relationship
rather than trying to create something
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that's artificial or arbitrary.
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So, right.
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For in, in a practical example for
everybody listening, there's a system
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that mediates between the subconscious
mind and the conscious mind called
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the reticular activating system.
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And this is a system that
allows your subconscious mind.
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To know what to present
to the conscious mind.
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You've all experienced this before
if you've, if you've driven a
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new car, maybe it's not new.
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But it's new to you, right?
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You've had this experience.
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Most likely you start driving
that car, and then amazingly, it
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seems like everybody and they mama
decided that they wanted to go
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get that car just like you did.
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It pops up everywhere.
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The stop sign, the stoplight, the
corner store, the grocery store.
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Everybody went and got
the same car that you got.
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That's the experience.
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That's what it feels like,
but that's not the reality.
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We know that.
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Right?
00:24:03.095 --> 00:24:05.435
The reality is everybody had
that car along before you did,
00:24:05.705 --> 00:24:08.825
but your subconscious mind was
blocking that out because it wasn't
00:24:08.825 --> 00:24:10.835
important to you until it was.
00:24:11.165 --> 00:24:14.795
And once it became important to you,
then your subconscious mind began
00:24:14.795 --> 00:24:19.415
to show you that thing more often
that you said was important to you.
00:24:19.715 --> 00:24:20.015
Now.
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For those people that might be a
little bit skeptical of that or feel
00:24:23.410 --> 00:24:26.410
like that doesn't work, I want you
to try this, try this, try this, uh,
00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:27.910
experiment right now, and you can do it.
00:24:27.910 --> 00:24:29.350
And Raul, you can do it as well.
00:24:29.560 --> 00:24:32.680
So take the middle finger of your right
hand and I want you to go ahead and
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touch the palm of your left hand, right?
00:24:35.800 --> 00:24:38.860
So as you're doing that, you can feel the
pressure and the palm of your left hand.
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You can feel the pressure in, in
middle finger, your right hand.
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You can see 'em, you can feel
the touch and, and the pressure.
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You know what you're
not feeling right now.
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You're not aware of what's going on
with the bottom of your right foot.
00:24:51.010 --> 00:24:51.400
Right.
00:24:51.760 --> 00:24:55.210
And now that your attention just shifted
to the bottom of your right foot y your
00:24:55.210 --> 00:24:56.500
hand goes away, and then you're like, oh.
00:24:56.500 --> 00:25:00.520
And if you really struggle, you can
keep both of 'em kind of there, but it
00:25:00.520 --> 00:25:02.590
feels like you're switching back and
forth, back and forth, back and forth.
00:25:02.890 --> 00:25:06.070
That's because the conscious mind
is capable of processing somewhere
00:25:06.070 --> 00:25:11.440
between 40 and 50 bits to about 126
bits of information a second, right?
00:25:11.445 --> 00:25:12.940
The the conscious mind is a spotlight.
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Raul: Mm.
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Robert Heath, Sr.:
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It shines a light a little bit
in the darkness here and there.
00:25:18.370 --> 00:25:20.110
That's what the conscious
mind is capable of.
00:25:20.110 --> 00:25:23.740
And the subconscious mind though
is capable of processing upwards
00:25:23.740 --> 00:25:25.570
of 11 trillion bits per second.
00:25:26.290 --> 00:25:28.990
I'm sorry, 11 million
bits per second right now.
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Raul: my GPU.
00:25:30.820 --> 00:25:30.821
Robert Heath, Sr.:
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Right?
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There you go.
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Right now it's exponentially
more than your conscious mind.
00:25:35.620 --> 00:25:37.180
So for example.
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You've had the experience of going
outside and knowing that it was gonna
00:25:40.870 --> 00:25:43.750
rain before you looked up at the sky,
or you just had this inner knowing
00:25:43.750 --> 00:25:46.480
that it was gonna rain, and then you
looked and were like, oh, yep, there.
00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:47.380
Go to storm clouds.
00:25:47.380 --> 00:25:47.530
Yep.
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It's about to rain.
00:25:48.460 --> 00:25:48.790
Right?
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The reason that you've had that experience
is because along every inch of your
00:25:53.860 --> 00:25:58.660
body, you have heat sensors, cold
sensors, wet and dry sensors, pressure
00:25:58.660 --> 00:26:01.570
sensors, pain sensors all over your skin.
00:26:01.900 --> 00:26:04.270
You also have your olfactory system that.
00:26:04.690 --> 00:26:10.210
Can tell different scents in the air and
tell the, the, the, the, the dampness in
00:26:10.210 --> 00:26:12.280
the air versus the dryness in the air.
00:26:12.430 --> 00:26:15.940
All of these things are going on
all at once, and your subconscious
00:26:15.940 --> 00:26:19.030
mind is processing all of that,
especially when you walked outside.
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:22.150
You could feel the
barometric pressure change.
00:26:22.300 --> 00:26:24.610
You could feel the humidity in the air.
00:26:24.730 --> 00:26:25.570
You could feel.
00:26:26.515 --> 00:26:32.575
And smell the scent of rain long before
you actually were consciously aware of
00:26:32.575 --> 00:26:34.915
how you were knowing what was going on.
00:26:35.725 --> 00:26:36.115
Right?
00:26:36.355 --> 00:26:39.115
And then when your conscious mind found
it, you were like, yep, that's it.
00:26:39.115 --> 00:26:39.685
It's gonna rain.
00:26:41.740 --> 00:26:45.760
That's the power of the subconscious
mind compared to the conscious mind.
00:26:45.760 --> 00:26:49.600
And so when we're talking about not,
again, becoming attuned to it, your
00:26:49.600 --> 00:26:55.090
subconscious mind is constantly taking in
all of this data from your experiences.
00:26:55.450 --> 00:27:00.040
But the interesting thing is where we
focus is where our energy flows and
00:27:00.040 --> 00:27:03.460
it's what we then experience, right?
00:27:03.460 --> 00:27:04.480
Tony Bins says it this way.
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:06.670
He says, we don't really
experience reality.
00:27:07.090 --> 00:27:09.010
We experience the
reality that we focus on.
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:11.560
Right.
00:27:12.340 --> 00:27:15.820
And so as we go forward and people
are trying to figure out, you know,
00:27:15.820 --> 00:27:20.290
how do I get the c conscious mind
and subconscious mind in alignment?
00:27:20.530 --> 00:27:24.430
One of the biggest things is to be
very aware of what are the, the, what
00:27:24.430 --> 00:27:26.830
are the beliefs, what are the values?
00:27:27.100 --> 00:27:33.100
What are the I, what's the
identity that we hold dear?
00:27:33.745 --> 00:27:35.455
Who do we think we really are?
00:27:35.905 --> 00:27:36.115
Right?
00:27:36.115 --> 00:27:39.355
And this is why when I started at the
beginning, I told you one of the first
00:27:39.355 --> 00:27:43.195
foundational beliefs that I start with
my clients with is that your identity
00:27:43.195 --> 00:27:44.785
is that you are here for a reason.
00:27:44.785 --> 00:27:48.145
Your identity is that you have
greatness within you regardless
00:27:48.145 --> 00:27:50.905
of whatever the external
circumstances you are experiencing.
00:27:51.055 --> 00:27:55.165
We start from that premise because that
premise then allows your subconscious mind
00:27:55.165 --> 00:27:58.375
to show you very different information.
00:28:00.685 --> 00:28:06.205
And it allows you to have very
different inputs in your thoughts,
00:28:06.355 --> 00:28:09.355
in your feelings, which then control
your actions, which then control your
00:28:09.355 --> 00:28:14.125
results, which then cycle us all the
way back to changing your circumstances.
00:28:14.456 --> 00:28:14.746
Raul: Yeah.
00:28:14.896 --> 00:28:16.066
It all starts with a belief.
00:28:17.095 --> 00:28:17.096
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:28:17.095 --> 00:28:17.155
Yeah.
00:28:18.796 --> 00:28:19.336
Raul: That's pretty cool.
00:28:19.366 --> 00:28:20.086
That's pretty interesting.
00:28:20.326 --> 00:28:21.376
You, you said that you
00:28:21.460 --> 00:28:21.461
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:28:21.460 --> 00:28:21.680
You,
00:28:22.606 --> 00:28:22.936
Raul: In the
00:28:23.020 --> 00:28:23.021
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:28:23.020 --> 00:28:23.440
mm-hmm.
00:28:23.476 --> 00:28:24.431
Raul: tell me like how,
00:28:25.690 --> 00:28:25.691
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:28:25.690 --> 00:28:30.220
Yeah, so one of the, so there
the, it is a great question.
00:28:30.220 --> 00:28:34.930
One of the interesting things, I went to
the Marine Corps because of two things.
00:28:34.930 --> 00:28:36.430
Number one, I wanted to have a challenge.
00:28:36.430 --> 00:28:36.745
I wanted to be tested.
00:28:37.975 --> 00:28:40.615
Number two, I wanted to serve my
country, but most importantly, I
00:28:40.615 --> 00:28:41.905
think I wanted to learn how to lead.
00:28:42.371 --> 00:28:42.491
Raul: Hmm.
00:28:42.625 --> 00:28:42.626
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:28:42.625 --> 00:28:45.835
knew that one of the things that I
believed was that I had a calling
00:28:45.835 --> 00:28:50.785
to do and help society in some way
and help my community and be someone
00:28:50.785 --> 00:28:52.855
who does good in the world, right?
00:28:53.665 --> 00:28:56.395
But I also knew I was coming
from being a teacher, and I knew
00:28:56.395 --> 00:29:00.325
that there was a certain level of
leadership that was necessary to
00:29:00.325 --> 00:29:01.705
make big things happen in society.
00:29:01.705 --> 00:29:04.100
And I knew that I wasn't
quite at that level yet.
00:29:05.080 --> 00:29:09.880
And so in going to the Marine Corps,
I was going into an organization where
00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:12.790
I knew that it was one of the greatest
leadership training academies in the
00:29:12.790 --> 00:29:19.480
world, and something that I learned
right in our first, in our first kind of.
00:29:20.590 --> 00:29:21.880
Publication that they had us read.
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:22.960
It's a book called War Fighting.
00:29:23.380 --> 00:29:26.590
And in that book it talks about
how, you know, so many people
00:29:26.590 --> 00:29:27.910
go into war and war is chaos.
00:29:27.910 --> 00:29:29.530
War is the fog of war is everywhere.
00:29:29.530 --> 00:29:31.420
You, you, you don't have
perfect information.
00:29:31.420 --> 00:29:32.560
You can't make perfect plans.
00:29:32.710 --> 00:29:35.470
Everything that we would normally
do in society to make sure that
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:38.350
everything is working well, you
generally don't have in war.
00:29:38.500 --> 00:29:43.480
And those that try to manage
the chaos generally struggle and
00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:45.850
wind up getting lots of people
killed along the way, right?
00:29:46.510 --> 00:29:48.850
But when you learn how
to thrive in the chaos.
00:29:49.390 --> 00:29:53.620
That is when you can be a Supreme War
fighter, and that skillset of being
00:29:53.620 --> 00:29:58.120
able to thrive in the chaos allows
you to take that not only from to
00:29:58.120 --> 00:30:00.880
the battlefield and be successful,
but to be successful in all of life.
00:30:02.740 --> 00:30:07.960
And part of it starts from an
understanding that you don't need all the
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:11.320
information to make very good decisions.
00:30:13.300 --> 00:30:14.890
You have to understand.
00:30:15.700 --> 00:30:19.240
That you're generally gonna have
about 70 to 80% of the information
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:20.470
you need to make a decision.
00:30:20.620 --> 00:30:24.220
But that's enough information to
make a decision because what you also
00:30:24.220 --> 00:30:26.860
have is the capability of pivoting.
00:30:27.820 --> 00:30:30.580
When you realize and learn
new information, and that's
00:30:30.580 --> 00:30:32.860
what the reality of life is.
00:30:33.040 --> 00:30:37.570
So many people think that there's, you
know, these great planners who just have
00:30:37.570 --> 00:30:41.830
these plans that work to the tee and
the reality general, Dwight Eisenhower
00:30:41.830 --> 00:30:44.440
said it this way, plans are useless.
00:30:45.340 --> 00:30:47.350
Planning is everything.
00:30:48.665 --> 00:30:51.935
And planning is so important
because it teaches you how to attune
00:30:51.935 --> 00:30:55.565
yourself to the things that you
need to be paying attention to.
00:30:55.565 --> 00:31:00.035
As you're executing that plan
that will give you information
00:31:00.035 --> 00:31:03.635
to continue on that pathway or
give you the information to pivot
00:31:03.991 --> 00:31:04.141
Raul: Yeah.
00:31:04.141 --> 00:31:06.811
To capture and collect the information
that you're not collecting right now.
00:31:07.715 --> 00:31:07.716
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:31:07.715 --> 00:31:12.035
exactly and to be aware of the information
and to then be able to utilize it
00:31:12.065 --> 00:31:13.955
and to be able to utilize it quickly.
00:31:14.946 --> 00:31:15.236
Raul: Yeah.
00:31:15.995 --> 00:31:15.996
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:31:15.995 --> 00:31:16.265
Right.
00:31:18.256 --> 00:31:18.556
Raul: It's true.
00:31:18.556 --> 00:31:21.676
No, quickly is a, is an important
speed, but not just speed for
00:31:21.736 --> 00:31:24.766
speed's sake, but live with pace.
00:31:25.795 --> 00:31:25.796
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:31:25.795 --> 00:31:26.575
Exactly.
00:31:26.575 --> 00:31:31.075
And the, the, the whole, the whole
concept is be able to see what you're
00:31:31.075 --> 00:31:35.035
seeing and make a decision based
on what you're seeing and trust the
00:31:35.035 --> 00:31:36.790
fact that if that decision is wrong.
00:31:38.710 --> 00:31:41.920
You are going to see what you're seeing
that's telling you that it's wrong and
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:44.890
be able to make another decision that
pivots away from that wrong decision.
00:31:45.010 --> 00:31:48.730
And instead of trying to get everything
perfect in hopes that you make the right
00:31:48.730 --> 00:31:52.390
decision, it's accepting that you're gonna
make a lot of wrong decisions because no
00:31:52.390 --> 00:31:59.530
plan survives first contact, but knowing
that you have the capabilities and the
00:31:59.740 --> 00:32:06.015
both intellectually and character wise
to find out what the right thing is.
00:32:06.745 --> 00:32:07.495
As Dr.
00:32:07.495 --> 00:32:10.660
Angelo said, when you
know better, do better.
00:32:11.116 --> 00:32:11.386
Raul: Yeah.
00:32:12.946 --> 00:32:14.146
Uh, hopefully you'll do better.
00:32:14.326 --> 00:32:15.676
Hopefully you actually take action.
00:32:15.796 --> 00:32:17.596
But no, this makes a lot of
sense and I think there's a lot
00:32:17.596 --> 00:32:20.146
of this stress with, uh, um.
00:32:20.641 --> 00:32:24.121
You know, the, the good and also
the bad of like the phone, social
00:32:24.121 --> 00:32:25.291
media and the addictions to
00:32:25.420 --> 00:32:25.421
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:32:25.420 --> 00:32:25.840
Mm-hmm.
00:32:25.921 --> 00:32:29.311
Raul: from knowing, distract us from
actually paying attention and distract
00:32:29.311 --> 00:32:32.851
us from not taming, but connecting like,
uh, with the unconscious and being able
00:32:32.970 --> 00:32:32.971
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:32:32.970 --> 00:32:33.190
Yes.
00:32:33.571 --> 00:32:36.841
Raul: to bring that to surface, to
move through, through our reality.
00:32:37.141 --> 00:32:42.211
Uh, effectively, this is, this has been a
pretty fun conversation, a bit ethereal,
00:32:42.211 --> 00:32:44.341
but I appreciate these abstract convos.
00:32:44.341 --> 00:32:48.781
It's pretty, uh, it's a good refresh for,
for me, but I think the key thing here is.
00:32:49.801 --> 00:32:52.741
For our audience listening,
identifying what you mentioned,
00:32:52.921 --> 00:32:55.081
Robert, what's your focus?
00:32:55.111 --> 00:32:58.861
How are you really aligning to that focus
right now to gather the right information
00:32:58.861 --> 00:33:02.821
and pretty much arm your conscious
mind with the already information
00:33:02.821 --> 00:33:05.371
that you know, subconsciously plus the
action you need to take to open the
00:33:05.371 --> 00:33:09.786
doors that, that you need to, to open
and get information and either change
00:33:09.786 --> 00:33:11.311
and get the results that you want.
00:33:11.701 --> 00:33:15.211
Um, for our listeners here,
Robert, where's the best place?
00:33:15.601 --> 00:33:16.051
People can.
00:33:16.051 --> 00:33:19.351
One, thank you for being on and two,
reach out to you, connect with you.
00:33:20.335 --> 00:33:20.336
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:33:20.335 --> 00:33:21.175
I appreciate that.
00:33:21.205 --> 00:33:22.285
Um, LinkedIn.
00:33:22.285 --> 00:33:24.325
I'm on LinkedIn, so you can
catch me at Robert Heath
00:33:24.745 --> 00:33:27.055
senior oh oh seven on LinkedIn.
00:33:27.145 --> 00:33:32.665
You can also go to our
website, www.tcg.com.
00:33:32.935 --> 00:33:38.845
Again, that's T as in tango, L as in
Lima, L as in Lima, charlie goff.com.
00:33:39.325 --> 00:33:39.745
Um.
00:33:40.825 --> 00:33:45.025
And you can also email
us@supportattcg.com.
00:33:45.385 --> 00:33:49.705
Um, there's, there's one thing I wanted to
kind of, to finish up with really quickly.
00:33:49.735 --> 00:33:52.075
'cause I know that a little bit of what
we were talking about is a, the or not.
00:33:52.075 --> 00:33:56.185
And I intentionally wanted people to,
to, to, to focus in on the feelings and
00:33:56.185 --> 00:33:57.745
the, the, the thoughts behind things.
00:33:57.745 --> 00:34:00.145
Because here's the reality,
and this is in boardrooms.
00:34:00.355 --> 00:34:02.425
This is with my executive
coaching clients.
00:34:03.625 --> 00:34:07.465
So many of us have practiced.
00:34:08.245 --> 00:34:12.415
Pushing down our desires, pushing down
our wants, pushing through, right?
00:34:12.565 --> 00:34:15.205
And the Marine Corps used to call
it embracing the suck, right?
00:34:15.295 --> 00:34:17.995
So many of us are very
capable of doing that.
00:34:18.535 --> 00:34:23.155
The problem is that is a definite way
for you to be a high achiever, for
00:34:23.155 --> 00:34:27.985
you to be above average, for you to
have high esteem in the community.
00:34:27.985 --> 00:34:32.965
But there's a difference
between surviving and thriving.
00:34:34.105 --> 00:34:38.455
And the biggest thing that we go back
to is remember that all of the, the
00:34:38.455 --> 00:34:41.035
tips and the tricks and the tactics of
high performance, everybody knows them.
00:34:41.035 --> 00:34:44.695
If you manage your schedule properly,
if you develop certain habits, right?
00:34:44.725 --> 00:34:46.495
There's books galore on this.
00:34:46.495 --> 00:34:49.015
There are TED talks that you can go
watch on how to be more productive.
00:34:49.675 --> 00:34:53.095
What I talk to people about, and most of
my clients are already high producers.
00:34:53.215 --> 00:34:55.405
It's not a question of can I do more?
00:34:55.975 --> 00:35:01.255
It's more a question of what should
I be doing now that I know I can
00:35:01.255 --> 00:35:02.965
do whatever I put my mind to.
00:35:03.226 --> 00:35:03.526
Raul: Yeah.
00:35:03.625 --> 00:35:03.626
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:35:03.625 --> 00:35:08.995
And that's the place where you have to be
able to tap back in to your identity, to
00:35:08.995 --> 00:35:13.105
who you are, to why you are here, because
that's where the fulfillment comes from.
00:35:13.105 --> 00:35:19.105
It comes from the alignment of your
skillset, which is productivity and
00:35:19.105 --> 00:35:22.165
your being, which is has a purpose.
00:35:22.285 --> 00:35:26.035
And when your productivity is matched
with your purpose, that alignment
00:35:26.545 --> 00:35:28.075
is when you become a legacy builder.
00:35:28.336 --> 00:35:30.961
Raul: Yeah, you can do pretty big things
and I think that's really important.
00:35:30.961 --> 00:35:34.021
And I think the, the issue that
you're speaking with are, I wouldn't.
00:35:34.381 --> 00:35:36.361
Just those who make it or who made it.
00:35:36.601 --> 00:35:38.101
'cause you might be listening
right now and you're like,
00:35:38.131 --> 00:35:39.481
oh, I haven't made it yet.
00:35:39.511 --> 00:35:40.291
But I think
00:35:40.380 --> 00:35:40.381
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:35:40.380 --> 00:35:40.800
Mm-hmm.
00:35:41.311 --> 00:35:41.941
Raul: like, if
00:35:42.055 --> 00:35:42.056
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:35:42.055 --> 00:35:42.355
Yeah.
00:35:42.451 --> 00:35:46.021
Raul: really, really reflect on your life
right now, you look at your business or
00:35:46.021 --> 00:35:49.111
you look at the company you're with and
look at the work that you're doing and
00:35:49.111 --> 00:35:50.881
you're like, I still haven't made it yet.
00:35:51.331 --> 00:35:53.131
I think that's a false dream.
00:35:53.131 --> 00:35:54.061
If you really look at
00:35:54.070 --> 00:35:54.071
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:35:54.070 --> 00:35:54.300
Oh yeah.
00:35:54.661 --> 00:35:55.936
Raul: the relationships that you have.
00:35:56.611 --> 00:36:00.121
The roof over your head, uh, the
opportunities that are within you, I think
00:36:00.121 --> 00:36:03.121
you have the capabilities of making it.
00:36:03.331 --> 00:36:05.311
It's not a number, it's not a net worth.
00:36:05.641 --> 00:36:07.861
Uh, and just being behind the
boardrooms and working with people
00:36:07.861 --> 00:36:11.941
with, like, in that mindset, once
you hit those numbers, or even like
00:36:11.941 --> 00:36:15.001
in, in your life, my life, like once
you hit a certain milestone, doesn't
00:36:15.080 --> 00:36:15.081
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:36:15.080 --> 00:36:15.500
Mm-hmm.
00:36:15.571 --> 00:36:15.991
Raul: life.
00:36:17.251 --> 00:36:19.381
I mean, it gives you options, but
it doesn't really change your life.
00:36:19.381 --> 00:36:21.601
And I think the key thing here
that you're talking to is like a,
00:36:21.841 --> 00:36:26.251
it's a survival, but here is like,
how can I really go further and.
00:36:26.656 --> 00:36:32.326
Um, say magnify who you are,
but, uh, expand who you are in
00:36:32.326 --> 00:36:33.676
generosity, and I think there's
00:36:33.925 --> 00:36:33.926
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:36:33.925 --> 00:36:36.385
Yes, definitely agree.
00:36:36.505 --> 00:36:40.195
And you know, uh, Abraham Maslow
called it self-actualization.
00:36:40.675 --> 00:36:45.865
When you can actually walk in alignment
and be who your highest self is, right?
00:36:45.985 --> 00:36:47.245
That person is more generous.
00:36:47.245 --> 00:36:48.805
That person is more magnanimous.
00:36:48.805 --> 00:36:52.075
That person is better in every situation.
00:36:52.705 --> 00:36:55.585
Because you are living in
alignment and walking in your
00:36:55.585 --> 00:36:57.895
true purpose as your true self.
00:36:58.216 --> 00:37:00.856
Raul: Yeah, and if you're
breathing, you can do it, Robert.
00:37:00.856 --> 00:37:00.946
We'll
00:37:01.015 --> 00:37:01.016
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:37:01.015 --> 00:37:01.735
Exactly.
00:37:02.176 --> 00:37:03.166
Raul: Thank you again for being on.
00:37:04.555 --> 00:37:04.556
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:37:04.555 --> 00:37:05.455
Appreciate you having me.
00:37:05.455 --> 00:37:08.365
Oh, and I forgot to tell the
listeners, anybody that's out there,
00:37:08.365 --> 00:37:09.925
if you're wondering, how do I do this?
00:37:09.925 --> 00:37:10.105
Right?
00:37:10.105 --> 00:37:12.895
The question that Raul was asking a
little bit earlier, one of the things
00:37:12.895 --> 00:37:16.585
that we're gonna have in the show notes
is a, a free gift for from us to you.
00:37:16.735 --> 00:37:20.155
We have a tool that's called a
self-reflection, self-discovery tool.
00:37:20.335 --> 00:37:20.635
Right.
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:23.470
How do you define your success?
00:37:23.470 --> 00:37:26.350
As you remember at the beginning of this,
when I talked, we talked about what does
00:37:26.350 --> 00:37:30.040
success mean to you specifically, and that
has to be in alignment with who you are.
00:37:30.340 --> 00:37:33.070
There's a tool that we have that takes
you through, there's an assessment,
00:37:33.070 --> 00:37:36.250
there's some other things that you'll
be able to go through and really
00:37:36.250 --> 00:37:38.320
figure out what does that mean for you?
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:40.690
And so that's our gift to
everybody who's listening here.
00:37:41.071 --> 00:37:42.811
Raul: So we will put that
in the show notes again.
00:37:42.841 --> 00:37:43.441
Thank you, Robert.
00:37:44.410 --> 00:37:44.411
Robert Heath, Sr.:
00:37:44.410 --> 00:37:45.010
No problem.
00:37:45.010 --> 00:37:45.820
It's my pleasure, brother.
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