Mimosas, Missteps, and Making It in NYC (with Kae Styron)

WEBVTT
00:00:06.309 --> 00:00:11.275
Hi guys and welcome to Daniel Does, a DFW Theater where we talk about everything theater.
00:00:11.275 --> 00:00:13.885
I feel like we've done so many of these.
00:00:13.885 --> 00:00:14.769
Should we end them now?
00:00:14.769 --> 00:00:16.282
Oh, they should.
00:00:16.282 --> 00:00:23.769
This should probably be the last one, no kidding, so excited to have an amazing guest with us today.
00:00:23.769 --> 00:00:32.436
Like I said, we've been adding more creatives onto the show to showcase them as well and spotlight them as much as possible.
00:00:32.436 --> 00:00:42.505
So today we have a wonderful creative in our area and a very close friend of mine, the wonderful Kay hey.
00:00:42.505 --> 00:00:44.529
Thanks for coming to the show.
00:00:44.529 --> 00:00:46.593
Um, give us your full name, please.
00:00:47.020 --> 00:00:48.262
Uh, my name is Kay Styron.
00:00:48.883 --> 00:00:49.624
And your pronouns.
00:00:50.304 --> 00:00:51.545
Uh, they them.
00:00:51.545 --> 00:00:53.689
He, not she.
00:00:53.689 --> 00:00:56.033
No, she's bitch, Bitch.
00:00:56.292 --> 00:00:58.155
Yeah, yeah, iconic.
00:00:58.155 --> 00:01:02.988
All of the above, um wonderful.
00:01:02.988 --> 00:01:07.042
Yeah, thanks for joining us.
00:01:07.042 --> 00:01:07.683
I know that, uh, we haven't.
00:01:07.683 --> 00:01:08.947
I haven't talked to you in how long?
00:01:08.968 --> 00:01:15.876
goodness, like two weeks I saw you like two weeks ago was I blacked out?
00:01:15.876 --> 00:01:20.225
At the time, no where did?
00:01:20.266 --> 00:01:20.947
was it a boat?
00:01:21.167 --> 00:01:24.132
yes, yes, I saw you at remember shout out boat.
00:01:24.132 --> 00:01:24.953
Yeah, shout out to boat.
00:01:25.474 --> 00:01:29.246
Um, except that I never remember when I go to boat, was it?
00:01:29.246 --> 00:01:32.174
It's all coming back.
00:01:32.174 --> 00:01:34.379
It's all coming back to me now.
00:01:34.379 --> 00:01:38.805
Um, yes, uh, I literally did say you too soon.
00:01:38.805 --> 00:01:48.236
No, but, um, I will randomly see you at a boat every once in a while, but we are both beyond recognition.
00:01:48.236 --> 00:01:48.335
Yeah.
00:01:49.581 --> 00:01:50.486
You look so good.
00:01:51.060 --> 00:01:53.046
So good, so good.
00:01:53.046 --> 00:01:55.543
Um, yeah, no, so I have known, kay.
00:01:55.543 --> 00:01:57.090
You just did the math.
00:01:57.090 --> 00:01:59.962
I didn't realize it had been this long 10 years.
00:02:00.263 --> 00:02:01.930
I know, isn't that wild.
00:02:01.930 --> 00:02:04.287
I know, I can't believe I've known you since elementary school.
00:02:05.801 --> 00:02:07.286
Since I was in elementary school.
00:02:08.288 --> 00:02:08.469
No.
00:02:10.301 --> 00:02:11.306
I am younger than Kay.
00:02:11.306 --> 00:02:15.849
It's not true, it's kind of true, it's not true.
00:02:15.849 --> 00:02:30.522
So we met through a mutual friend of ours, the wonderful, the beautiful Ashley Lane, the love of my life, the mother of my children.
00:02:30.522 --> 00:02:31.344
You have kids, yeah, with her.
00:02:31.344 --> 00:02:33.028
Oh, my god, congrats.
00:02:33.028 --> 00:02:34.010
Thank you so much.
00:02:34.010 --> 00:02:34.812
Yeah, I'm straight.
00:02:34.812 --> 00:02:40.169
Um, so we met.
00:02:40.169 --> 00:02:46.942
I couldn't even tell you like what it was or what event it was or where we met.
00:02:46.942 --> 00:03:00.487
I just remember, at one point, all of a sudden, like the four of us because it was you and me, ashley, blaine and Skylar, the four of us were hanging out and just like having girls night, like the sleepover at Ashley's house.
00:03:00.487 --> 00:03:01.203
Do you remember that?
00:03:01.203 --> 00:03:05.205
Where we sat up and we cried when we watched her performance of Ghost?
00:03:05.205 --> 00:03:05.627
Do you remember that?
00:03:05.627 --> 00:03:07.155
Where we, we sat up and we cried what we watched her performance of ghost?
00:03:07.155 --> 00:03:07.838
Do you remember that?
00:03:07.838 --> 00:03:10.105
I remember bawling my eyes out.
00:03:10.126 --> 00:03:11.150
So she has a video.
00:03:11.150 --> 00:03:12.587
Was it at Granbury opera house?
00:03:12.587 --> 00:03:13.192
Where did she do it?
00:03:13.192 --> 00:03:14.378
Yeah, it was in Granbury.
00:03:14.419 --> 00:03:29.542
Yeah, she has that old video of her doing, uh, the lead role in ghost and I just remember crying, crying.
00:03:29.542 --> 00:03:31.707
I was drunk, so drunk don't drink kids um, so drunk in my pjs, like.
00:03:31.707 --> 00:03:32.631
And she she's like do y'all wanna?
00:03:32.631 --> 00:03:33.973
Because she was also white girl, wasted.
00:03:33.973 --> 00:03:42.008
She's like don't watch me, do gust and me, yes, I just remember us all in her bed and just bawling our eyes out.
00:03:42.008 --> 00:03:45.794
She's like I picked up your shirts this morning.
00:03:47.081 --> 00:04:03.670
I don't know why my favorite part of that, though, was the direction there, I felt like personally, and she did a great job.
00:04:04.211 --> 00:04:08.923
She was fantastic like personally, uh, and she did a great job.
00:04:08.923 --> 00:04:09.604
She was fantastic.
00:04:09.604 --> 00:04:10.706
Um, but the laundry basket with the shirts.
00:04:10.706 --> 00:04:12.632
I feel like I picked up your shirts this morning, I don't know why.
00:04:12.632 --> 00:04:13.493
I don't know why.
00:04:13.493 --> 00:04:16.182
Uh, mr blah blah said to say hello.
00:04:16.182 --> 00:04:17.966
I feel like he owns the cleaners.
00:04:17.966 --> 00:04:29.685
So picking up your shirt out of the laundry basket I don't think was the intention of the lyric but they took it so literal yes and
00:04:29.785 --> 00:04:35.345
like I think ashley brought that up to the director too, and he was like no, I want you to do this and, like god, rest his soul.
00:04:35.345 --> 00:04:41.745
But like I think, I think he may have been wrong literally, but yeah, I remember those moments.
00:04:41.846 --> 00:04:52.259
And then my favorite and I will bring this up because it's my favorite K moment we went to brunch at this is so embarrassing.
00:04:53.029 --> 00:04:55.627
It's my favorite thing we went to brunch at.
00:04:55.627 --> 00:04:57.519
I don't even remember what that place was called.
00:04:57.519 --> 00:04:59.408
It's like in West 7th downtown Fort Worth.
00:04:59.408 --> 00:05:01.507
This is old K.
00:05:01.507 --> 00:05:06.651
We probably had like 7 to 8 carafts of mimosas.
00:05:06.651 --> 00:05:08.985
It was plenty.
00:05:08.985 --> 00:05:15.882
We should have stopped at like three, two and we were just passing them around filling them up.
00:05:15.882 --> 00:05:19.509
Like ashley's mom was there, nancy was drinking with us.
00:05:19.509 --> 00:05:20.692
Love me some, nancy.
00:05:20.692 --> 00:05:33.531
And next thing I know we're at skylar's house and you're like I just need a nap and you pass out like cold and like the night goes on.
00:05:33.531 --> 00:05:37.345
We leave and you text me the next day and you're like what happened?
00:05:37.526 --> 00:05:45.428
like well, because a y'all left me at someone's house and I knew it was skylar's house, but still I had never been there before.
00:05:45.428 --> 00:05:47.805
I was like y'all just fucking left me there.
00:05:47.805 --> 00:05:50.430
It's like 7 pm when we left.
00:05:50.430 --> 00:05:53.122
That actually led me to find out.
00:05:53.122 --> 00:06:09.439
It helped me find out that I actually have a histamine intolerance, which is 90 percent or not 90, but it's like the histamine in champagne is higher.
00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:25.244
So I was like I poisoned myself that day because I didn't drink that much I mean we did drink a lot, but there were like 14 people there, yeah and I couldn't figure it out for the longest time.
00:06:25.283 --> 00:06:32.334
But no, I have an allergy, so like I can do alcohol, but I can't like do it.
00:06:34.302 --> 00:06:46.392
Wow, you heard it here, yeah intolerance which means you could get alcohol poisoning at brunch that is so horrible that we were just like throwing it back.
00:06:46.392 --> 00:06:59.002
I remember that like you had those sunglasses, that like we lost at some point, like I did, that was, that was a wild, a wild brunch, but I feel like most of our brunches were wild at that point.
00:06:59.002 --> 00:07:01.504
Um, and again, that was 10 years ago.
00:07:02.146 --> 00:07:04.447
Well, that was more like eight years ago.
00:07:04.447 --> 00:07:08.773
That was more recent than anything.
00:07:08.773 --> 00:07:10.754
Oh my gosh, that was still wild.
00:07:11.255 --> 00:07:21.300
Okay, but, like I said, I really I don't know your theater side, which is wild to me because you have done so much in the DFW theater area.
00:07:21.300 --> 00:07:30.987
And to know, now that you know you have this role and position and um have done things, it's so crazy to think what a small world we live in.
00:07:30.987 --> 00:07:35.281
Um, so you are not originally from this area well, I'm from.
00:07:35.802 --> 00:07:52.963
I'm from cleburne, uh, so like two and a half hours southwest of here, so I call it the armpit of texas, but like I love cleburne, but you know um, it's cleburne it's cleburne but you moved to the area like 21 old were you
00:07:53.603 --> 00:07:53.884
I was.
00:07:53.884 --> 00:08:04.812
I moved here when I was 23 but I started working here when I was about 20, um, so I like getting into theater.
00:08:04.812 --> 00:08:13.504
I got into theater in cleburne and at plaza theater company back when they were on main street we had they were just in that tiny little theater I went to the camps.
00:08:13.504 --> 00:08:23.790
I was like 13 years old, just like found, found my place in that space and I love plaza, love plaza.
00:08:23.790 --> 00:08:29.223
Um, carnegie then went out to cranberry that's where I was when I met you.
00:08:29.223 --> 00:08:46.155
Yes, so then cranberry, I went to new york randomly when I was 19 and, uh, then came back because that's hard, because I I moved just six $600 in my pocket and was like all right let's go.
00:08:47.841 --> 00:08:49.086
I had no idea that you did that.
00:08:49.105 --> 00:08:49.748
Got robbed.
00:08:51.100 --> 00:09:01.366
Not like physically, but he took my money and I paid this guy a down payment on rent and he took it in that rigging keys.
00:09:02.870 --> 00:09:03.773
Oh, my God.
00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:09.905
So you got the whole New york experience uh you could uh, yeah
00:09:09.946 --> 00:09:11.769
yeah, I just walked around all the time.
00:09:11.769 --> 00:09:20.451
The guy I was staying with the time, um, worked at sleep, no more, so I didn't have a key to the sublet.
00:09:20.451 --> 00:09:27.802
So I would just walk around new york all day and night because he didn't get out of there until like 4 30.
00:09:27.802 --> 00:09:30.548
So, like I got into some shit stuff.
00:09:30.548 --> 00:09:32.254
Can I curse here?
00:09:32.254 --> 00:09:35.260
Okay, um, but I got into some shit.
00:09:35.302 --> 00:09:57.443
I like hitched a ride with my friends, uh, sesame ford and polly cock I, because they were visiting new york at the time and I was there, found out they were there and I was like, oh my god, we had to get back to their friend's place in Harlem and then we had to go through like Central Park to get there and I was like, guys, we're not, this is not a good idea, we don't know.
00:09:57.443 --> 00:10:14.024
We were so lost and I like flagged down an NYPD car and we got a ride with the cops, but like ACAP, but, like you know, at the time there were no taxis around, no anything.
00:10:14.024 --> 00:10:21.543
And then the cop, the cop kissed me on the cheek when they dropped me off, which I didn't like that very much.
00:10:21.543 --> 00:10:25.427
I was like, thank you so much, that was a good cop thing for you to do.
00:10:25.427 --> 00:10:28.765
Why'd you have to do that, dude?
00:10:28.765 --> 00:10:30.710
Because they were so nice.
00:10:30.710 --> 00:10:34.721
And then he was like all right, sweeties, see you later.
00:10:34.721 --> 00:10:38.625
I was like, oh, this got weird.
00:10:38.625 --> 00:10:46.355
So yeah, don't do that, what the hell what the hell.
00:10:46.394 --> 00:10:48.804
That is I like, and I knew you after that.
00:10:48.804 --> 00:10:52.245
I had none of that, like I knew none of that at all.
00:10:52.245 --> 00:10:53.524
That is wild.
00:10:53.524 --> 00:10:57.298
I had no idea that you had even moved out there for a little bit and tried.
00:10:57.298 --> 00:10:59.427
Do you think you would ever go back?
00:11:02.488 --> 00:11:05.846
oh yeah, yeah, if work called yeah.
00:11:05.846 --> 00:11:06.868
I would.
00:11:06.868 --> 00:11:15.828
I don't think there's like I'm a little country mouse in my heart, um, and I'm always gonna be that.
00:11:15.828 --> 00:11:28.946
So I just remember coming back from new york and, uh, just really seeing a texas sunset for the first time, like sunset for the first time, like not for the first time, but Back yeah.
00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:44.003
I went other people don't have this Like in the city, you just never see the sky and I'm like I don't know if I could be permanently in the city like that, but maybe adjacent, because I do love it.
00:11:44.003 --> 00:11:49.467
I love how crazy it is, I love the there's always something, what was?
00:11:49.488 --> 00:11:50.650
your reason for wanting to move out there.
00:11:50.671 --> 00:11:55.648
Was it for uh acting or work, or was it just to get away?
00:11:56.951 --> 00:12:06.153
I think deep down it was really just to get away because, like you know, I've been performing and acting since I was 12 and then, you know, 19.
00:12:06.153 --> 00:12:12.498
I was like I can go and get a job out there you can not necessarily an acting job, but I can move to new york.
00:12:12.498 --> 00:12:13.701
People do it all the time.
00:12:13.701 --> 00:12:14.884
My grandmother did it, you know.
00:12:14.884 --> 00:12:24.027
Yeah, so it's like that was kind of what I was going for, the, the nyc start to be kind of thing.
00:12:24.027 --> 00:12:26.190
You, you know, but that's not.
00:12:26.190 --> 00:12:39.400
I think that's kind of not me, you know, I think I move at the beat of my own drum too much to march in the line of a sidewalk of a city.
00:12:39.400 --> 00:12:41.484
I don't know what that means.
00:12:41.543 --> 00:12:43.226
but no, it makes sense.
00:12:43.226 --> 00:12:44.268
No, I think so.
00:12:44.268 --> 00:12:56.951
So with that, with your singing that you've already shown us already, we're going to take our first break and scoot over to the piano so you can show us, maybe, what you moved to New York with and auditioned with.
00:12:56.951 --> 00:12:59.105
If you did, we'll see.
00:12:59.105 --> 00:13:02.206
I auditioned zero times.
00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:06.827
Well they should have taken this on.
00:13:06.940 --> 00:13:08.366
I couldn't get a job.
00:13:09.461 --> 00:13:10.703
I had no skills.
00:13:10.703 --> 00:13:16.001
I have skills now, but Stop Back then.
00:13:16.081 --> 00:13:18.548
I didn't do any tech stuff Really.
00:13:18.567 --> 00:13:19.971
No, I didn't, I was just.
00:13:19.971 --> 00:13:21.423
I was like don't give me a drill.
00:13:23.149 --> 00:13:23.470
Goodness.
00:13:23.470 --> 00:13:28.211
Okay, we're going to go take a break and get over to the piano and we'll be right back.
00:13:28.211 --> 00:13:31.866
So the first time I met you, I think you were singing.
00:13:31.866 --> 00:13:34.745
What Was it not at karaoke?
00:13:34.745 --> 00:13:38.081
Oh, it was definitely at karaoke, right yeah, where we were both blacked out drunk.
00:13:39.982 --> 00:13:46.327
Those were the days One of us was yeah, but if you remember, because I don't remember the first time.
00:13:46.347 --> 00:13:53.553
I can't remember either, but this song, I love this song so much, and so when you said you knew it, I was like, yeah, we have to do it.
00:13:53.553 --> 00:13:54.673
So tell people what we're singing.
00:13:55.014 --> 00:13:58.498
Hi, I'm Jet Kelly and I'm going on strike.
00:13:58.498 --> 00:14:00.918
I'm going on strike.
00:14:05.866 --> 00:14:06.974
And I'm gone.
00:14:07.014 --> 00:14:09.265
And I'm gone and I'm done.
00:14:09.265 --> 00:14:17.086
No more running, no more lying, no more fattening, denying me my day.
00:14:17.086 --> 00:14:20.027
Just the moon.
00:14:20.027 --> 00:14:21.846
So big and yellow.
00:14:21.846 --> 00:14:25.264
It turns night right Into day.
00:14:25.264 --> 00:14:25.710
Dreams come true.
00:14:25.710 --> 00:14:26.072
So big and yellow.
00:14:26.072 --> 00:14:26.700
It turns night right into day.
00:14:26.700 --> 00:14:28.065
Dreams come true.
00:14:28.065 --> 00:14:30.311
Yeah, they do.
00:14:30.311 --> 00:14:33.448
In Santa Fe.
00:14:33.448 --> 00:14:39.831
Where does it say you gotta live and die here?
00:14:39.831 --> 00:14:43.750
Where does it say a guy can't catch a break?
00:14:43.750 --> 00:14:47.808
Why should you only take what you're given?
00:14:47.808 --> 00:14:53.903
Why should you spend your whole life living trapped, like there ain't no future, even at 17,?
00:14:53.903 --> 00:15:01.188
Breaking your back for someone else's sake If the life don't seem to suit ya?
00:15:01.188 --> 00:15:07.268
How about a change of scene, far from the lousy headlines and the bread lines in between?
00:15:07.268 --> 00:15:16.472
Salve, my old friend.
00:15:16.472 --> 00:15:24.490
I can't spend my whole life dreaming, though I know that's all I seem inclined to do.
00:15:24.490 --> 00:15:32.090
I ain't getting any younger and it's fun to start brand new.
00:15:32.090 --> 00:15:36.510
I need space and fresh air.
00:15:36.510 --> 00:15:39.929
Let them laugh in my face.
00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:44.327
I don't care save my place.
00:15:49.086 --> 00:15:49.589
I'll be there.
00:15:49.589 --> 00:16:00.134
Just be real.
00:16:00.134 --> 00:16:10.178
That's all I'm asking, not some pain in my head, cause I'm dead If I can't count on you today.
00:16:19.446 --> 00:16:25.950
I got nothing if I ain't got Sarah.
00:16:28.030 --> 00:16:30.613
Faye, yeah.
00:16:30.613 --> 00:16:39.217
So, like I said, I'm used to you screamo-emo-ing karaoke songs.
00:16:39.677 --> 00:16:40.078
Oh yeah.
00:16:41.461 --> 00:16:49.394
I feel like that's what we typically will do yeah, not at all it's a boy band.
00:16:51.197 --> 00:17:03.004
Uh-huh, daniel, that's you're doing well no um yeah, screamo emo was like me in like sixth grade so last year yeah yeah, no, we used to go to that.
00:17:03.044 --> 00:17:05.810
What was that one place over there by where ashley lived?
00:17:05.810 --> 00:17:06.352
Oh my gosh.
00:17:07.433 --> 00:17:08.676
I have no idea.
00:17:08.936 --> 00:17:09.739
What is it called?
00:17:10.707 --> 00:17:11.368
Which one.
00:17:11.429 --> 00:17:12.353
That karaoke place.
00:17:12.353 --> 00:17:14.172
It was like in front of that shopping center.
00:17:14.172 --> 00:17:17.890
It's like a tiny, horrible spot.
00:17:17.890 --> 00:17:19.948
I can't remember.
00:17:19.989 --> 00:17:23.127
You know what, daniel, you got me there you got me there the one time.
00:17:23.368 --> 00:17:29.176
The one time you got me that one time the one time Drink up?
00:17:29.176 --> 00:17:37.212
I actually don't, because I don't want to alcohol poison you again, you bitch.
00:17:37.212 --> 00:17:39.435
Don't don't want to kill you with your histamine.
00:17:39.435 --> 00:17:43.267
Um, okay, so amazing job.
00:17:43.267 --> 00:17:44.548
Love, santa fe, love.
00:17:44.548 --> 00:17:45.711
Would you ever want to play jack kelly?
00:17:45.711 --> 00:17:46.111
Absolutely have.
00:17:46.111 --> 00:17:46.833
You ever want to play Jack Kelly?
00:17:46.833 --> 00:17:50.478
Absolutely have you ever no, have you been in a Newsies.
00:17:51.579 --> 00:18:07.088
No, I got stuck on stage one time in a kid's production of Newsies because the gate got stuck on stage and we had these big doors Like in the theater.
00:18:07.088 --> 00:18:12.290
We had these big doors that opened and we had a pvc gate, which was the first problem because it was on wheels and it just did this.
00:18:12.290 --> 00:18:15.486
It just wasn't and so we had to open the gate we have.
00:18:15.486 --> 00:18:38.484
We have 60 kids going on and off the stage, okay, and me and my good friend erica were running crew and, um, I got stuck because the gate had gotten stuck in the door frame and the door would no longer shut, so the gate was preventing me from getting into the open door.
00:18:38.484 --> 00:18:49.531
It was not happening and I was standing there in a little newsy cap because that's what I had on, holding the door while they started doing King of New York.
00:18:49.531 --> 00:18:58.212
So I guess I've been in newsies for 10 seconds so you have been in it.
00:18:58.492 --> 00:18:59.674
Uh see, I knew it.
00:18:59.674 --> 00:19:09.776
I could just read it on you I do give that vibe, so um away from acting.
00:19:09.776 --> 00:19:12.059
You have done a lot of technical stuff.
00:19:12.059 --> 00:19:13.710
How did you get into that?
00:19:14.664 --> 00:19:27.492
Well, I started helping around, strike this, that and the other, and then I figured out that you could actually get paid to use a drill sometimes.
00:19:27.492 --> 00:19:30.397
Um, if you could, if you were good at it.
00:19:30.397 --> 00:19:32.467
And, like my dad, my dad's a tradesman.
00:19:32.467 --> 00:19:40.186
So I grew up, you know, knowing how to use a drill, but not ever thinking that it would benefit me in theater in any way.
00:19:40.186 --> 00:19:44.151
I'd be like what you want me to do, what with the light.
00:19:44.151 --> 00:19:55.727
But I, you know, I found out that building sets was fun and it also you could get paid for it if you were good at it.
00:19:55.727 --> 00:20:01.007
So I decided to get good at it and then I ended up getting a job, um, just working in the shop at water tower.
00:20:01.007 --> 00:20:22.603
Uh, and my first day I built something so incorrectly that they actually had to talk their higher up out of telling me that I had to go Stop.
00:20:22.603 --> 00:20:34.611
Well, and like to be fair, the guy who assigned me this thing to do, he handed it to me and I said I don't know how to read this and he said figure it out.
00:20:34.611 --> 00:20:50.606
So you know, it was kind of one of those things where it's like I set up to fail on that one because I didn't know what I was doing, but it taught me, like if somebody it's better to like say you don't know how to do something so that someone can show you how to do it correctly.
00:20:50.606 --> 00:20:58.666
Because I learned through doing this pretty much consistently in water tower, because I worked my my way up.
00:20:58.666 --> 00:21:05.733
Uh, eventually they kept me around, obviously, but eventually I worked up to the assistant technical director.
00:21:05.733 --> 00:21:36.330
Then COVID hit, so I was able to miraculously, very, very blessed to be able to retain a job throughout the pandemic and really figure out, kind of from the ground up, how to run a company that has do not work notices issued all over the place and you're not allowed to be with and didn't be with each other.
00:21:36.330 --> 00:21:38.776
So that kind of you know.
00:21:39.257 --> 00:21:42.528
Eventually I worked my way up into being the director of production.
00:21:42.528 --> 00:21:55.458
So I'm over the entire technical side and some of the artistic elements and you know I do a lot of making the entire production come together.
00:21:55.458 --> 00:22:01.669
So I've always said that I want to be like a production designer, eventually, like a, like a.
00:22:01.669 --> 00:22:15.026
So a director of production is one of those things that we it's a title that we don't really have in theater, but they have it more in film, but it encompasses what I do better than a technical director, if that makes sense, um.
00:22:15.626 --> 00:22:35.108
But as far as set design, I kind of just fell into doing that because I do know how to build Um and it's something that's always a learning process, uh, like learning what is proper design and what is like guerrilla design, what is, you know, when you have the budget to do.
00:22:35.108 --> 00:22:48.176
You know you always have to know how to do things on a budget and that's been one of the skills that, like, is really, really useful because I'm able to say, hey, that's a little big for this situation.
00:22:48.176 --> 00:22:53.548
Hey, that's a little big for this situation.
00:22:53.548 --> 00:22:57.760
So maybe we can pare that down and use some reclaimed materials, maybe we can take some things, borrow some things.
00:22:57.760 --> 00:23:09.611
You know, it's so much a theater I've found is just is is borrowing and helping each other out and um, I, I think that that's how, that's how I've been able to do.
00:23:09.691 --> 00:23:19.845
Anything is through the help of other people, and it's so important to just have that team around you because you can't do anything alone.
00:23:19.845 --> 00:23:22.731
The pandemic showed me so much that you cannot do things alone.
00:23:22.731 --> 00:23:30.724
Because I would try so hard to do I mean, I kind of had to during that time to if you were hustling during the pandemic.
00:23:30.724 --> 00:23:35.396
But people who were hustling at that point know that you have to hop.
00:23:35.396 --> 00:23:41.576
Yeah, and if you can't see or talk to anyone it's kind of hard to get you know.
00:23:41.616 --> 00:23:47.711
Help with things, yeah how great that you were able to keep a job, though, and I am in theater.
00:23:47.731 --> 00:23:49.895
I am shocked and blessed.
00:23:49.895 --> 00:23:54.387
I count my blessings every single day, like I.
00:23:54.387 --> 00:24:06.815
Just I know how untrue that was for, honestly, most people and there was a time like we didn't even know that we were going to be able to open the doors again.
00:24:07.596 --> 00:24:10.231
You know there were times where we're like, is this going to shutter?
00:24:10.231 --> 00:24:11.486
But?
00:24:11.486 --> 00:24:20.656
And there was a time where there were three people on staff and you know my coworkers and my bosses.
00:24:20.656 --> 00:24:28.684
I really have to praise them for what they did during that time, through all of the heartache and hardships.
00:24:28.684 --> 00:24:33.451
But you know, it's so, it's so standing in it and it didn't.
00:24:33.451 --> 00:24:36.707
There was a time where it didn't look like it was going to be.
00:24:37.788 --> 00:24:51.459
So I'm really proud of what our company has done so you said director of production, can you kind of walk me through a production you know, and what your process is a little bit, and what you do?
00:24:52.164 --> 00:25:05.034
Well, if I'm the scenic designer for the show, I start out by designing the show, talking with the director, doing the entire design process, the sketches, Is that like through a computer system that you do it, or are you like I?
00:25:05.034 --> 00:25:09.154
Use SketchUp I sometimes I sketch a lot.
00:25:11.249 --> 00:25:16.684
Yeah, I'm not real good at it, but you know, I know what it means but no one else has to know until I put it in a computer.
00:25:17.307 --> 00:25:28.792
I'm getting better at SketchUp, but if it's someone else designing the set, then they do all that like.
00:25:28.792 --> 00:25:31.674
With this current one I'm not designing mary poppins.
00:25:31.674 --> 00:25:38.739
The miraculous, amazing bob lavalier is doing that and I love working with bob.
00:25:38.739 --> 00:25:42.950
Absolutely, incredible designer, incredible human, incredible artist.
00:25:42.950 --> 00:25:47.394
Just love that guy, um, but so I.
00:25:47.394 --> 00:25:52.599
He has got me all of the cad files, all the drawings, um.
00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:59.113
Then I have a crew in the shop, um, who I give things to.
00:25:59.393 --> 00:26:11.739
They build it, I build it, we build it, um, and then we load in to our space, uh, at the addison Center, and I get the light plot, I get the sound plot.
00:26:11.739 --> 00:26:15.813
I don't do any of the programming.
00:26:15.813 --> 00:26:22.314
That's usually the designer, the engineers, but we hang the lights.
00:26:22.314 --> 00:26:29.698
I have to know where everything's going, get everything, all the lights, into their dimmers, get everything on the sound side ready dimmers.
00:26:29.698 --> 00:26:40.452
Get everything on the sound side ready, because we have to re redo the sound system every time we do a show, all of it, the entire thing, like cables, everything.
00:26:40.452 --> 00:26:51.486
We have to rerun it sound 90 of the time because it's just, it's not hung, it's not in a certain place because we're in a big black box.
00:26:51.486 --> 00:27:07.410
So, if your audience, like for satchmo, we had audience on one on two different planes so we couldn't have three array speakers pointed at the house so we had to move speakers all over the you know.
00:27:07.410 --> 00:27:14.275
So it's a lot more involved than I, than things that are already installed it's a weird place.
00:27:14.576 --> 00:27:17.949
One show I did want to ask you about, because water tower partnered with um.
00:27:18.009 --> 00:27:21.800
I believe it was stage west for uh, the plane that goes wrong.
00:27:21.800 --> 00:27:27.736
Did you help with that, because that is so technically like it has to be perfect?
00:27:27.736 --> 00:27:30.723
Um, were you part of that design as well, or?
00:27:30.864 --> 00:27:36.039
I did not design that, brian, uh, brian, yeah, yeah, he, he, he designed that.
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:38.007
Uh, we built part of it, they built part of it.
00:27:38.648 --> 00:27:39.913
Um, how was the build for that?
00:27:39.913 --> 00:27:40.535
Was it just?
00:27:40.675 --> 00:27:42.622
uh, our side was was fairly easy.
00:27:42.622 --> 00:27:48.534
We really only got the the wall part, um, and a few other little things.
00:27:48.534 --> 00:28:03.432
The biggest thing because they loaded the stuff that they had built at Stage West over at Water Tower, because we were doing the show first in the Cobra and then we took everything to Stage West.
00:28:06.051 --> 00:28:13.471
So the loadout- was crazy, well, and I didn't get to see it, but I heard it's coming back it's coming back um, but was there a second level and everything.
00:28:13.632 --> 00:28:37.993
Yeah, well, and I mean because I saw that in london when I went goodness, five years ago now and just the technicality behind it and like everything timed and the magnets and everything else that has to be part of that set, I can't even imagine um, so there was a night where the magnets I don't remember what Something happened with the magnets one night and I think somebody unplugged it or something.
00:28:39.165 --> 00:28:44.834
Yes, I don't remember, like don't quote me on it, but like I don't remember what happened.
00:28:44.834 --> 00:28:47.733
But something happened with the magnets, it just wasn't working.
00:28:47.733 --> 00:28:58.795
Yeah, no, yeah, that's just like I said, I I'm in awe of that show and I can't wait.
00:28:58.815 --> 00:28:59.817
It was just sold out every single night.
00:28:59.857 --> 00:29:05.089
So even for um, the new run is the new run, it's get tickets oh, get tickets now, I'll get them yeah, please do, yes, please do.
00:29:05.451 --> 00:29:14.531
Um, but speaking of building sets and all that good stuff, we're gonna play a small little game together that I'm very nervous about, so we're going to head on over to.
00:29:14.531 --> 00:29:22.807
We're actually going to stay right here and play the game, so I don't know where I'm heading to, I don't know where I'm heading to live, so we'll be back.
00:29:22.807 --> 00:29:23.768
We're going to play a game.
00:29:23.768 --> 00:29:24.568
See you in a bit.
00:29:24.568 --> 00:29:28.854
Hey y'all, and welcome back to Daniel Does DFW.
00:29:28.854 --> 00:29:30.455
And here we are for Tool Time.
00:29:30.455 --> 00:29:44.464
I'm Daniel the Toolman, taylor, with my friend Kay, here we are here to tool around with some tools.
00:29:49.924 --> 00:29:50.970
I'm so fucking nervous because I, like my dad was not a tool person.
00:29:50.970 --> 00:29:51.576
No, my dad was a tool person dad was not a tool person.
00:29:51.467 --> 00:29:51.453
No, my dad was a tool person.
00:29:51.453 --> 00:29:52.724
I was not a tool person.
00:29:52.724 --> 00:29:56.531
My dad has so many tools well, had he's dead tools.
00:29:56.531 --> 00:30:04.176
So so here's the game.
00:30:04.176 --> 00:30:08.760
Kay has brought some tools for me today that they use as they make.
00:30:08.760 --> 00:30:15.472
They use as they make sets or as they do things in their technical life I don't know in the bedroom.
00:30:15.472 --> 00:30:20.752
I didn't bring that, no strap-ons today.
00:30:20.752 --> 00:30:23.825
So they have brought.
00:30:23.825 --> 00:30:35.345
They have brought some stuff to show us that is acceptable for the podcast and I have to tell everyone.
00:30:35.384 --> 00:30:43.191
My pride flag made it in here we are the members of the all American team.
00:30:43.191 --> 00:30:45.794
We come from cities near and far.
00:30:46.406 --> 00:30:49.349
We've got gays gays, there are gays.
00:30:50.732 --> 00:30:52.664
Who would have thought so.
00:30:52.664 --> 00:31:02.185
Kay will be pulling out some tools out of their box, and I have to guess what that tool is.
00:31:02.185 --> 00:31:03.568
Good luck to me.
00:31:03.588 --> 00:31:04.790
You have to give it a name.
00:31:04.810 --> 00:31:05.952
I have to give it a name.
00:31:05.952 --> 00:31:08.458
Okay, here we go.
00:31:08.458 --> 00:31:11.804
I'm ready for the first tool.
00:31:11.824 --> 00:31:14.848
We're gonna start really easy okay, what's this?
00:31:14.868 --> 00:31:25.990
I mean, it's a ruler you're fucking kidding me it's a swanson speed square point one for daniel I legit.
00:31:25.990 --> 00:31:28.835
That's what's called, like I should have put tape on all of these.
00:31:28.835 --> 00:31:30.156
It's fine, I won't look at all of them.
00:31:30.156 --> 00:31:33.480
I was like is it a corner hugger?
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:37.776
It's not a corner hugger.
00:31:37.776 --> 00:31:44.577
Um, this is called a scrapple.
00:31:44.577 --> 00:31:50.525
I actually don't know what you do with it.
00:31:50.525 --> 00:31:52.289
It's nope.
00:31:52.289 --> 00:31:53.093
It doesn't say it on there.
00:31:53.093 --> 00:31:54.849
Stanley Steamer makes your.
00:31:54.849 --> 00:31:55.573
It's a chisel.
00:31:56.385 --> 00:31:56.906
That's what I said.
00:31:56.926 --> 00:31:58.794
a chisel no you didn't say that.
00:31:59.526 --> 00:32:00.648
But a scrapple Give me that.
00:32:00.648 --> 00:32:02.453
Oh, okay, be careful.
00:32:02.453 --> 00:32:05.571
Okay, I think I use this on the bottom of my feet.
00:32:06.134 --> 00:32:06.253
Ew.
00:32:07.767 --> 00:32:09.207
It's a Technically, yeah, it's.
00:32:09.207 --> 00:32:10.332
Use this on the bottom of my feet.
00:32:10.373 --> 00:32:10.835
It's a um.
00:32:10.835 --> 00:32:11.980
Technically, yeah, it's a um.
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:14.692
It makes wood curlies it makes wood curlies.
00:32:15.053 --> 00:32:17.403
I what is it called when you do it on the bottom of your feet?
00:32:17.403 --> 00:32:19.288
What's it called pet egg?
00:32:19.288 --> 00:32:22.013
Um, it's a pet.
00:32:22.013 --> 00:32:22.875
Is it a pet egg?
00:32:22.875 --> 00:32:23.817
Did I get it right?
00:32:26.551 --> 00:32:28.656
it's a planer, it's a rasp.
00:32:28.656 --> 00:32:29.700
Actually it's a rasp.
00:32:29.700 --> 00:32:30.742
That's not a planer.
00:32:30.742 --> 00:32:35.075
A planer is something completely different, because a planer creates planes that are even and flat.
00:32:35.075 --> 00:32:35.756
That's a rasp.
00:32:35.817 --> 00:32:47.255
It takes off things or not you know it's crazy in spanish we make raspas by shaving ice, and so that's what you make them with a rasp you learn something.
00:32:47.295 --> 00:32:51.224
You actually make them with a planer that is just like the yeah, I know what it is so.
00:32:51.244 --> 00:32:52.548
That's why they're called raspas.
00:32:52.587 --> 00:32:53.009
Raspas.
00:32:53.048 --> 00:33:00.531
Yeah, okay, what's this this is a mini saw.
00:33:01.326 --> 00:33:03.252
You're so fucking right.
00:33:05.546 --> 00:33:07.192
For small people is it a mini saw.
00:33:08.465 --> 00:33:09.190
It's a mini saw.
00:33:09.190 --> 00:33:10.569
I don't know why it's so small.
00:33:10.704 --> 00:33:15.354
I just didn't want to bring a big hacksaw because that's scary to carry around Hacksaw.
00:33:15.354 --> 00:33:17.570
I don't know if it's actually had some.
00:33:17.570 --> 00:33:18.053
I don't know.
00:33:18.053 --> 00:33:20.807
There are so many different kinds of saws, but this is a little saw.
00:33:21.390 --> 00:33:22.413
See, I got it right.
00:33:22.413 --> 00:33:23.536
Point one for Daniel.
00:33:23.536 --> 00:33:35.958
Amanda put point one up at point one.
00:33:35.958 --> 00:33:36.640
Thank you, insert.
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:37.742
Insert that here, okay what?
00:33:38.183 --> 00:33:38.483
else you got.
00:33:38.503 --> 00:33:46.964
Okay, I want to say butt plug, but well, it's the same amount of syllables.
00:33:46.964 --> 00:33:51.071
What do you do with this?
00:33:51.071 --> 00:33:53.517
Like do I put this at the end of my boat To like?
00:33:53.517 --> 00:33:56.890
I mean you could With an anchor.
00:33:58.145 --> 00:33:58.647
That's called.
00:33:58.647 --> 00:33:59.731
Are you ready for this?
00:33:59.771 --> 00:34:01.269
Yeah, it's called a plumb bob.
00:34:07.306 --> 00:34:08.769
I know a guy who used a plumb bob.
00:34:10.434 --> 00:34:13.813
No, ow, that just whacked the shit out of my whiskey.
00:34:13.813 --> 00:34:15.831
Um, okay.
00:34:17.706 --> 00:34:18.429
Oh, I know this.
00:34:18.429 --> 00:34:21.931
I have to think which one it is.
00:34:21.931 --> 00:34:24.528
This is an Allen wrench.
00:34:24.929 --> 00:34:25.170
No.
00:34:25.411 --> 00:34:26.512
Oh crap, it's a wrench.
00:34:27.155 --> 00:34:27.496
Mm-hmm.
00:34:27.996 --> 00:34:28.818
A plumber wrench.
00:34:29.208 --> 00:34:31.887
Well, I mean, yeah, technically what kind of wrench.
00:34:31.887 --> 00:34:33.489
I think it's technically a monkey wrench.
00:34:33.951 --> 00:34:34.652
Monkey wrench.
00:34:35.713 --> 00:34:38.639
But um, now that I'm thinking about it, it might not be.
00:34:41.268 --> 00:34:41.628
Oh, this is uh.
00:34:41.668 --> 00:34:45.795
It's 14 inches, but yes that is the wrench that you need for plumbing things.
00:34:45.795 --> 00:34:48.079
No, um, okay, what's this?
00:34:50.646 --> 00:34:56.434
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, um a clamp thingy, but it's um, it's called a uh, what's it look like?
00:34:56.434 --> 00:34:57.114
A vice?
00:34:57.114 --> 00:34:57.956
No, no Read.
00:35:03.623 --> 00:35:03.844
China no A.
00:35:03.864 --> 00:35:05.168
C-clamp Yay, oh, c-clamp China.
00:35:06.431 --> 00:35:06.693
No.
00:35:08.458 --> 00:35:15.510
A sea clamp, yay Sea clamp, sticking in these pockets.
00:35:20.806 --> 00:35:21.771
It's got a funny name.
00:35:22.565 --> 00:35:32.336
It just makes me like Needle point, a screwy top thing in the jig.
00:35:32.336 --> 00:35:32.797
Don't talk.
00:35:34.206 --> 00:35:37.510
You shouldn't talk about people that way, especially when they're sitting right in front of you.
00:35:37.570 --> 00:35:40.036
A screwy top, messy, messy.
00:35:40.036 --> 00:35:49.753
Just give me your best guess.
00:35:49.753 --> 00:35:51.958
This feels like I'm in the adams family.
00:35:51.958 --> 00:35:52.478
What's that?
00:35:53.126 --> 00:35:56.735
I've been put in a new day what is it?
00:35:56.735 --> 00:36:02.409
It's a turnbuckle a turnbuckle.
00:36:02.630 --> 00:36:04.492
Yeah, I'm, I'm a fan.
00:36:04.492 --> 00:36:05.873
Okay, what's that?
00:36:05.873 --> 00:36:09.398
Oh, obviously a U-clamp.
00:36:11.900 --> 00:36:13.710
No, no, that's a shackle.
00:36:16.826 --> 00:36:20.657
Not used to them looking like this Shit.
00:36:22.166 --> 00:36:22.990
Okay, what's this?
00:36:23.826 --> 00:36:26.715
Oh, obviously it's a hammer.
00:36:26.945 --> 00:36:28.150
What kind of hammer?
00:36:29.005 --> 00:36:31.018
A round hammer.
00:36:31.018 --> 00:36:31.762
What kind of hammer?
00:36:31.762 --> 00:36:31.923
A round?
00:36:35.492 --> 00:36:37.987
A bull bull, a bullby hammer.
00:36:40.445 --> 00:36:42.010
It's called a ball peen hammer.
00:36:47.405 --> 00:36:53.135
Here is where we become rated R A ball peen, hammer.
00:36:53.135 --> 00:36:55.661
We just don't call stuff like that, huh.
00:36:55.661 --> 00:36:58.007
So people be careful.
00:36:58.007 --> 00:37:04.284
We're just gonna a ball peen, it's called a ball peen hammer because this is.
00:37:04.606 --> 00:37:11.851
It doesn't mar the surface the ball and this is the peen I don't know, maybe it's reverse, I'm not sure this might be the peen, who knows?
00:37:11.851 --> 00:37:13.233
Maybe it's that.
00:37:17.661 --> 00:37:19.523
I don't know why it's called this, it just is.
00:37:23.112 --> 00:37:27.065
There was something in here that I was like what is this?
00:37:27.065 --> 00:37:31.519
Oh, this is a thingamabob, it's a drill bit, or a drill bit is what I meant.
00:37:32.101 --> 00:37:32.623
It's a drill bit.
00:37:33.106 --> 00:37:35.876
Okay, okay, make sure it doesn't stay on here.
00:37:35.876 --> 00:37:39.416
Okay, okay, make sure it doesn't stay on here.
00:37:39.436 --> 00:37:41.619
Why do I feel like this is what they use at like breeze?
00:37:43.523 --> 00:37:48.295
at where yeah I agree.
00:37:49.978 --> 00:37:50.998
Okay.
00:37:50.998 --> 00:37:56.465
Um, it's called a pincher.
00:37:56.465 --> 00:37:59.338
What are you pinching with that?
00:37:59.338 --> 00:38:01.565
I don't know what are you supposed to do?
00:38:01.565 --> 00:38:02.469
Oh, does it cut?
00:38:02.469 --> 00:38:04.135
No, it's a.
00:38:04.135 --> 00:38:05.277
A.
00:38:05.277 --> 00:38:10.518
Um, I don't know, hold on, I'm gonna go.
00:38:10.557 --> 00:38:15.436
No, I got this toenail clipper oh, your toenails must be real bad girl.
00:38:15.436 --> 00:38:19.697
Um, these are actually.
00:38:19.697 --> 00:38:25.275
Um, these are called dykes, but they don't like it when you talk about them that way anymore.
00:38:25.275 --> 00:38:26.697
I'm just kidding.
00:38:26.697 --> 00:38:32.795
Um, that's what they call them, but the technical, technical name for them it's like Latin.
00:38:32.795 --> 00:38:39.938
You know in scientific names, you know how we call lions lions, but their name isn't actually lions.
00:38:39.938 --> 00:38:44.675
They're called bullnose pliers, because I don't know why.
00:38:45.449 --> 00:38:46.614
What do you use them for?
00:38:46.614 --> 00:38:47.778
Do you like pull out nails with them?
00:38:48.889 --> 00:38:57.405
I do, yeah, you pull things out of there with them, so bullnose dikes, bullnose dykes.
00:38:58.510 --> 00:39:00.778
Well, I'm glad you brought this dyke on today.
00:39:00.778 --> 00:39:09.021
I had to bring my pair of dykes so that we could chat about it and I could learn more about tools.
00:39:09.021 --> 00:39:10.652
I hope you learned a lot about tools today too.
00:39:10.672 --> 00:39:11.152
Wait, we're not done.
00:39:12.054 --> 00:39:14.538
Oh shit, okay, Okay.
00:39:19.445 --> 00:39:19.846
What's that?
00:39:20.891 --> 00:39:28.936
This is obviously a A um Like a corner saw.
00:39:29.978 --> 00:39:31.682
What's this?
00:39:33.110 --> 00:39:34.878
Those are called die cuts.
00:39:37.030 --> 00:39:41.362
No, these are biscuits Like to eat.
00:39:41.362 --> 00:39:42.755
Yeah, like the English.
00:39:42.755 --> 00:39:45.838
English biscuits are like cookies, right.
00:39:45.938 --> 00:39:46.219
Yeah.
00:39:48.096 --> 00:39:49.119
These are wood biscuits.
00:39:50.150 --> 00:39:51.211
What do you do with wood biscuits?
00:39:51.211 --> 00:39:51.773
You eat them?
00:39:51.773 --> 00:39:53.016
No, you do not.
00:39:57.704 --> 00:39:58.144
They're good for you.
00:39:58.144 --> 00:39:59.005
I'll eat one if you eat them.
00:39:59.005 --> 00:39:59.347
No, you do not.
00:39:59.347 --> 00:39:59.807
They're good for you.
00:39:59.807 --> 00:40:00.889
I'll eat one if you eat one.
00:40:00.889 --> 00:40:02.918
I dropped it, but I'll eat one if you eat one.
00:40:02.918 --> 00:40:08.538
Daniel, I can't believe you'd do that.
00:40:10.911 --> 00:40:11.835
Don't eat a wood biscuit.
00:40:13.170 --> 00:40:14.978
Why the fuck would you put that in your mouth?
00:40:14.978 --> 00:40:19.431
Daniel, I trusted you.
00:40:19.431 --> 00:40:24.181
This is a biscuit joiner, so that cuts the hole for your biscuit and what do you do with the?
00:40:24.181 --> 00:40:26.612
Biscuits, you put the biscuit in the biscuit hole.
00:40:26.612 --> 00:40:29.338
I've actually never used this.
00:40:29.338 --> 00:40:32.344
I've never had to what are biscuits for?
00:40:32.344 --> 00:40:43.005
Um, so when you put two pieces of wood together, sometimes you need something to hold them together internally as opposed to externally.
00:40:43.005 --> 00:40:47.001
So this is like a way to do that.
00:40:47.001 --> 00:40:53.342
So you just kind of like that makes sense, it's joinery that was a good word.
00:40:54.043 --> 00:41:01.989
I get that now, so like when you put like a table together and it has like those biscuits that are like delicious wood biscuits.
00:41:01.989 --> 00:41:08.840
They fit together because the table eats the biscuits yeah, this is so interesting to um.
00:41:11.237 --> 00:41:13.969
I hope a lot of you well, neighbor.
00:41:14.210 --> 00:41:15.795
I hope you learned a lot today.
00:41:15.795 --> 00:41:18.715
We've been here With our friend Kay.
00:41:18.715 --> 00:41:21.918
Yeah, remember to play nice with your tools.
00:41:21.918 --> 00:41:24.715
And eat your wood biscuits and to not be a tool.
00:41:26.251 --> 00:41:29.215
That would be a tool to the trench.
00:41:30.818 --> 00:41:34.043
Good shot, thank you.
00:41:34.043 --> 00:41:37.668
Thank you, and we'll see you next time.
00:41:37.668 --> 00:41:43.418
What a nice set of tools.
00:41:43.418 --> 00:41:47.144
Yeah, there's so many more.
00:41:47.144 --> 00:41:54.333
Thank you so much for bringing those in, because I I feel like I could now build a set.
00:41:54.333 --> 00:41:59.898
Okay, I feel like I have all the tools necessary.
00:41:59.918 --> 00:42:00.139
Do you want?
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:03.461
to come work for me, no, can you imagine that would?
00:42:03.481 --> 00:42:05.184
be no I can't.
00:42:05.304 --> 00:42:14.621
I can't even do strike, like on a show, like because the theaters that I work at, like you, have to do strike because we don't have technical people like you that do them yourself.
00:42:14.621 --> 00:42:20.907
So, yeah, it's stupid.
00:42:21.389 --> 00:42:26.559
Yeah, don't trust me with a drill.
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:27.922
I would trust you with, maybe, a screwdriver.
00:42:28.943 --> 00:42:29.284
Valid.
00:42:29.284 --> 00:42:40.134
I know I did recently have to hang my mom's blinds and I was like trying to get it into the wall and I was like reading the instructions.
00:42:40.134 --> 00:42:42.639
It was like trying to get it into the wall and I was like reading the instruction.
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:43.802
It was like drill pilot hole.
00:42:43.802 --> 00:42:48.614
I was like, oh, you have to drill a hole for your pilot, so just for those of you that need to know drill a pilot hole.
00:42:49.036 --> 00:42:50.500
Always drill your pilot holes.
00:42:50.539 --> 00:42:54.336
You'll split your wood drill a hole before you split.
00:42:54.336 --> 00:42:54.657
What'd you say?
00:42:54.657 --> 00:42:55.601
Drill the hole before you split the spit?
00:42:55.601 --> 00:42:55.920
What'd you say?
00:42:56.061 --> 00:43:05.135
drill the hole before you split your wood drill the hole before you split your wood hopefully you're not splitting any wood, because that's bad I may have split some wood.
00:43:05.155 --> 00:43:05.456
I'm not even.
00:43:05.456 --> 00:43:07.762
I probably did, I'm not even alive.
00:43:07.762 --> 00:43:12.074
So if those blinds fall off, my mom's house, just her big picture.
00:43:12.074 --> 00:43:26.021
Okay, so you were telling me that current projects, you are going to help with the production of Mary Poppins at Water Tower, which that opens when.
00:43:26.750 --> 00:43:30.521
July 17th is when that goes up Nice.
00:43:30.521 --> 00:43:32.817
So soon, very soon.
00:43:33.139 --> 00:43:33.298
Nice.
00:43:34.451 --> 00:43:44.298
And then after that I am designing Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe Fun, directed by Ashley Puckett Gonzalez.
00:43:46.472 --> 00:44:23.192
So that's going to be really fun, because that's kind of I really like designing plays more than musicals, I think, because musicals you have to have space for everybody dancing on stage, you know, and if you have a small stage it's kind of everything has to come on and off, you know, but a play you really like, I like creating worlds, you know, and really tying everything in because it's the first thing the audience sees, you know they walk in, and unless you've got a, the audience sees, you know they walk in, and unless you've got a curtain there, you know that's what they're looking at for 30 minutes while they're listening to the house music.
00:44:23.192 --> 00:44:34.577
You know, like you, you establish, you're able to establish so much with set and setting that, I think, is.
00:44:34.577 --> 00:44:38.123
I didn't realize how, just how important.
00:44:38.123 --> 00:44:48.952
I had an appreciation for it, um, but I don't think I really understood the kind of artistic you can.
00:44:48.952 --> 00:44:57.300
You kind of don't have any limits aside from what the director tells you that they want, and so I think creating that world was really fun for me.
00:44:57.809 --> 00:45:00.849
How much of that is research that you put in on your own Like.
00:45:00.849 --> 00:45:03.259
Do you research other productions of it?
00:45:05.190 --> 00:45:07.157
Yes, a lot of it is research.
00:45:07.157 --> 00:45:20.384
There's an element, there's a point in time where the research becomes ingrained in the imagining of the world.
00:45:20.384 --> 00:45:37.983
So, like Raisin in the Sun was probably one of my most heavily researched projects and I actually I mapped out the we were still in tennis court and still not able.
00:45:37.983 --> 00:45:40.005
We were skipping every second seat.
00:45:40.005 --> 00:45:45.306
It was so spread out it was crazy, but that was the only way we could do it.
00:45:45.306 --> 00:45:54.302
But the actual shape of the stage was, um, the red line district of chicago, um, like to was.
00:45:54.481 --> 00:46:11.179
It was based off of that shape of redlining and when you would watch the show and it was kind of this happy accident, but one side of the audience it looked more like you were looking into the house and then one side it felt like you were inside the house.
00:46:11.179 --> 00:46:21.391
So the audience was able to walk away with a different viewpoint of that story, depending on where they sat.
00:46:21.391 --> 00:46:24.179
And like she cooked eggs on the stove and you could smell them.
00:46:24.179 --> 00:46:41.762
You know, like I'm really into getting that immersive sensory, like meow wolfy, like you walk through the art and the art is around you, kind of thing Like that's, that's where I I can really like that's my powerhouse, I think.
00:46:42.431 --> 00:46:46.840
That's so interesting, and I don't think theaters push that limit enough, right?
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:48.192
I think that they want to.
00:46:48.192 --> 00:46:57.262
They want to do a set that is familiar to people, that looks just like a tour or looks just like the original production, and I like that you're willing to push that line a little bit.
00:46:57.282 --> 00:46:59.829
I I think it's the only way I know how to do anything.
00:46:59.829 --> 00:47:04.838
It's like I don't know how to follow.
00:47:04.838 --> 00:47:06.742
I don't know how to color in the lines.
00:47:06.742 --> 00:47:13.057
I always want to add a new line, um, but yeah, it's just they don't.
00:47:13.057 --> 00:47:33.722
Theater has not gone far enough yet as a whole, but I think it's getting there, because I think people want an experience that's more than just sitting and watching Like they want to feel like they're a part of something, and I think that's really it's important for building community one.
00:47:33.722 --> 00:47:43.297
But I think it's really really it's also really important to I don't know can like.
00:47:43.297 --> 00:47:46.860
Art teaches so many lessons.
00:47:46.860 --> 00:47:53.936
If you're not pushing your boundaries with art, then where are you pushing your boundaries at all?
00:47:54.358 --> 00:48:01.742
Because art is something that, at the end of the day, it matters so much, because there's no stake.
00:48:01.742 --> 00:48:04.797
Your art doesn't have to be good to be good.
00:48:04.797 --> 00:48:08.898
It can just be art and you can just have fun with it.
00:48:08.898 --> 00:48:11.353
It's not that serious, and that's what makes good.
00:48:11.353 --> 00:48:15.650
Art is authenticity, and I'm just so I don't know.
00:48:15.650 --> 00:48:24.851
I'm really passionate about people being authentically who they are and creating art from an authentic place, because that's the only way it's ever good.
00:48:24.851 --> 00:48:34.260
If you look at these great performers, these great musicians, these great, any great artists, they are only they.
00:48:34.260 --> 00:48:39.137
The only reason they are great is because they were authentic and the work that they put out reflected that.
00:48:39.137 --> 00:48:41.585
And that's what I'm about.
00:48:41.585 --> 00:48:42.849
I am about authenticity.
00:48:42.849 --> 00:48:53.918
I'm about being yourself, because, at the end of the day, that's the best version of you do you think a lot of theaters play it safe oh, every single theater plays it safe, but they have to.
00:48:54.539 --> 00:48:58.637
And the reason they don't necessarily, it's not that they have to.
00:48:58.637 --> 00:49:03.177
It's the smart thing to do right now.
00:49:03.177 --> 00:49:07.054
Why, right now, people aren't?
00:49:07.054 --> 00:49:16.385
At the end of the day, what keeps a theater open is people buying tickets.
00:49:16.385 --> 00:49:18.836
Audiences aren't taking enough risks.
00:49:18.836 --> 00:49:22.070
I don't think it's necessarily the theater's fault.
00:49:22.070 --> 00:49:27.081
I think audiences like what they like.
00:49:27.081 --> 00:49:29.996
Audiences are the ones buying tickets.
00:49:29.996 --> 00:49:33.760
They say what they want to see, so theaters listen.
00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:40.992
Say what they want to see, so theaters listen.
00:49:40.992 --> 00:49:42.777
Um, and I as much as any other theater person is like why can't we take more risks?
00:49:42.777 --> 00:49:57.547
Why can't any of these theaters anywhere in the us right now I haven't seen a single one take a risk that I'm like huh, that's gonna go somewhere.
00:49:58.367 --> 00:50:04.480
That's something different in the way of it's not being different just to be different.
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:11.521
It's being different because it's telling a story you know, and something that's never been done before.
00:50:11.521 --> 00:50:12.041
It's.
00:50:12.041 --> 00:50:15.998
The other thing is people think that theater is up, down, down, flying left, right.
00:50:15.998 --> 00:50:18.451
It's not.
00:50:18.451 --> 00:50:25.110
Theater is just as much what we're doing right now as anything, you know.
00:50:25.110 --> 00:50:31.842
Like we have lights up, we have cameras rolling, we're in a film, you know, stand-up comedy is theater.
00:50:31.842 --> 00:50:36.565
Rupaul said that like we're all born naked, the rest is drag.
00:50:36.565 --> 00:50:40.304
Well, we walk through life in a costume, so the whole world is a stage.
00:50:40.304 --> 00:50:41.387
We're all the players.
00:50:41.387 --> 00:50:50.539
Like Shakespeare got it right, so I don't even remember your question no, you're fine, yeah, my answer is yes.
00:50:50.739 --> 00:51:01.298
I do think theaters play it too safe, but I think it needs to not all be on the theaters, it needs to be on.
00:51:01.298 --> 00:51:04.347
How do we get audiences to take more chances?
00:51:04.347 --> 00:51:21.865
Because I think a lot of theaters do want to take more risks, but I think that that evil element of money, yeah, is underlying everything and that's unfortunate, because there's so much, there are so many great ideas that I fuck it.
00:51:21.865 --> 00:51:27.248
I have, or I hear other people have, and they're like I just wish I could get somebody to fund it.
00:51:27.972 --> 00:51:45.545
It's like, okay, that's a great thing that you have, but me too, you know, and I think, out of everyone, though water tower sometimes will take those steps, like the shows that I've seen, like hand to god, which you know, I can't see another theater really doing that.
00:51:46.065 --> 00:51:53.980
Well, um, oh really, another theater's gonna do it, no oh no, not that at all, it's just like well, the price was paid for that.
00:51:54.121 --> 00:51:55.925
You know I'm I mean the night that I went.
00:51:55.945 --> 00:52:10.800
There weren't a lot of people there I mean it all like that's the price was paid for that really, and I mean, and what's sad is that that was one of my favorite shows the price was paid for it, wow and then curious case like that was my first set design.
00:52:18.115 --> 00:52:27.210
That I felt was also another show that you can't really be done at other theaters, and so they're taking Chaplin, a show that not a lot of, because it was a premiere and it was a choice.
00:52:27.210 --> 00:52:32.945
It was a choice, I saw that and, yeah, they took a chance on it.
00:52:32.945 --> 00:52:44.402
You know, again, something that I think they are willing to take a risk sometimes with their choice in shows that I think other theaters aren't willing to take, even as far as a play goes wrong.
00:52:45.659 --> 00:52:54.827
I think that that's technically difficult, that some theaters wouldn't want to do that and they may not have the space for it because it is a two floors, you know, and it has to be a strong cast.
00:52:54.827 --> 00:52:57.074
You have to have that timing.
00:52:57.436 --> 00:53:21.360
Yeah, the cast has to be right well, my biggest thing about this past year is all of the one person shows that we've been doing and I actually it's given me a lot of um space to kind of draw turg a little bit, because that's like I want to direct and I want to make movies and I want to like I want to do every single thing you can do to make a piece of art at some point in my life.
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:29.282
You know, like I want to do it all and it's so hard to just pinpoint one thing that I want to do because I really do want to.
00:53:29.282 --> 00:53:31.588
What's that saying about the hands and the pies?
00:53:32.528 --> 00:53:36.481
I, I don't get it, but it's what I'm trying to say.
00:53:36.777 --> 00:53:45.054
I don't know about the hands and the pies when you have a lot of hands and a lot of pies.
00:53:45.556 --> 00:53:50.273
It's something about having your hands and pies anyway.
00:53:50.273 --> 00:53:57.666
Eat pies, eat cake, um, but I just I want to do it all.
00:53:57.666 --> 00:53:58.489
I want to make art.
00:53:58.489 --> 00:54:29.847
I want to foster a community that feels safe to be their authentic selves and one that isn't picking on each other, um, and I mean and I'm not talking about dfw specifically, but I feel like people are really quick, you know, with social media and tiktok and all this stuff, to to really bully other people, um, for really nothing.
00:54:29.847 --> 00:54:41.708
And I kind of had to step away and pull myself back from social media, and it still gives me a lot of anxiety to even post anything now which I'm like, okay, what you know.
00:54:41.708 --> 00:55:01.563
But, um, I think that a lot of people don't know that it's okay to just be yourself, um, and I think it's important that people know that it's hard to live right now, it's hard to be alive, and if we can't make art, then what the fuck are we living for?
00:55:03.181 --> 00:55:05.394
you know, I completely agree with that.
00:55:05.996 --> 00:55:09.934
Love each other, be kind, make your art, be yourself.
00:55:10.336 --> 00:55:15.556
Those are the only rules that's the reason we do it right.
00:55:15.556 --> 00:55:17.782
Yeah is because it makes us happy.
00:55:18.282 --> 00:55:28.177
Yeah, it pulls out the best part of us yeah and parts that like I was super nervous to get up there and sing that song with you because it's a song.
00:55:28.177 --> 00:55:36.664
That song in particular has made me nervous in the past, but I did it once, it was, I did it twice, it was better.
00:55:36.664 --> 00:55:52.567
So like you have to be huh to get better and I just want people to know that it's okay to have a space where you can be blah at something, even if you don't want anyone to see it.
00:55:52.567 --> 00:55:54.697
You know you can do that People aren't looking at.
00:55:54.697 --> 00:55:55.880
That's not your value.
00:55:55.880 --> 00:56:02.362
You know, like your value is in what you learn and your value is in how, where your soul comes from.
00:56:02.362 --> 00:56:06.097
Like I'm getting real hippy dipping in this right now.
00:56:06.579 --> 00:56:12.889
But yeah, I just I want people to know that it's okay, there's, there's no front that you gotta.
00:56:12.889 --> 00:56:16.288
You don't have to put up an artist front to be an artist.
00:56:16.288 --> 00:56:18.556
You don't have to put up an actor front to be an actor.
00:56:18.556 --> 00:56:21.121
You can just be, cause that's so much.
00:56:21.121 --> 00:56:27.063
It's so much of art is just being and existing in a world that you create.
00:56:28.005 --> 00:56:28.686
Cheers to that.
00:56:29.635 --> 00:56:29.675
No.
00:56:29.715 --> 00:56:33.074
I make rosters cheers to that no.
00:56:33.456 --> 00:56:38.358
I meant rosters no, so I want to thank you for being on the show.
00:56:38.358 --> 00:56:42.800
We are just about out of time, so I loved having you on.
00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:44.914
Oh my gosh, I feel like we had some really good conversation.
00:56:44.914 --> 00:56:51.483
You got to tell us all about the things that I didn't really know at all, which is wild to me.
00:56:51.483 --> 00:56:57.244
Knowing you for 10 years, you know some of that stuff that yeah, mysterious person.
00:56:57.244 --> 00:57:02.121
Okay, um, okay, uh, so tell us um.
00:57:02.121 --> 00:57:04.561
I know you said you don't do social media.
00:57:05.103 --> 00:57:07.742
I do but do you have an Instagram or anything that you want to share?
00:57:07.742 --> 00:57:08.023
Uh?
00:57:08.083 --> 00:57:14.679
yeah, it's um anything that you want to share.
00:57:14.778 --> 00:57:16.902
Uh, yeah it's um how do I pronounce?
00:57:16.922 --> 00:57:18.905
it kk stir or you could follow k makes.
00:57:18.905 --> 00:57:20.567
K makes is my other one.
00:57:20.567 --> 00:57:21.829
It's not very active.
00:57:21.829 --> 00:57:31.105
I'm trying to get back into it, um, and set up my website and everything, so I'll have a whole thing soon.
00:57:31.326 --> 00:57:44.264
So if you just follow K-Makes, so follow K-Makes on Instagram or K-K-Ster or K-K-Ster, but no, thank you so much for being on today.
00:57:44.264 --> 00:57:49.686
Have a blast, a nice kiki with you drinking some vino, etc.
00:57:49.686 --> 00:58:03.146
Again, remember, you can follow us on our social media at DanielDoesDFW, that's on Facebook, instagram or on YouTube as well, where you can watch it, or you can listen to us wherever you get your podcasts, like Spotify or Apple Podcasts.
00:58:03.146 --> 00:58:10.103
Again, give it a big hand for Kay joining us today and hopefully you know more about tools.
00:58:10.103 --> 00:58:15.306
Again, I don't think I remember any of what they said.
00:58:15.306 --> 00:58:21.047
Maybe maybe one, maybe maybe rasp.
00:58:21.047 --> 00:58:26.344
I learned something, all right, so we'll catch you next time.
00:58:26.344 --> 00:58:27.047
Thank you, bye.