#254: "Task" In-Progress Review (Episodes 1-5)

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I have a radical idea.
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We'll cross the streams.
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Excuse me, Gun, you said crossing the streams was bad?
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Crosses the Streams.
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Hello once again, everybody, Welcome back to Crossing Streams, your
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television streaming podcast out of southern California. Craig Elston and
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Chris read.
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Back with you after a couple of weeks away for
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episode number two fifty four, and we are the masters
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of our task today. Chris, it's our task to offer
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another in progress review, five out of seven episodes of task.
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But we're all up to date and ready to venture
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into suburban Pennsylvania.
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How are you, my friend?
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I'm doing well, sir, Thank you very much for asking.
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And yeah, we're in the middle of it. But if
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how it's gone is any indication of how it's gonna go.
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We kind of know what's gonna happen, so let's get
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right into it.
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We shall, indeed, and of course we'll be back in
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a couple of weeks with a season finale review, but
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this will cover episodes one through five, as we tend
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to do for anything in progress, we'll start with a
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non spoiler zone just in case you're somebody who has
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clicked play on the podcast, but you aren't up to
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date on task, or maybe you've watched one or two
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episodes but you haven't watched five. The first half of
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the podcast will be for you. Will put in a
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commercial break before we get into things that spoil through
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episode five, which honestly, episode five is where most of
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the series spoilers have fallen to date. Before we get
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into it, just a quick reminder, you can email the show.
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the discussion. If anything we say sparks an opinion on
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your side, send it our way. Crossing Streams TV Podcast
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Streams is the Instagram address. Okay with all that out
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of the way. On we go into Task and as
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we've done since the revival of the program, Chris with
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a show that we're getting into for the first time
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only kind of know your thoughts on it. What are
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your thoughts? Task is what?
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To you? So far? Ask is dark not only in
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the themes of the narrative and how the characters' lives
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have unfolded, but physically dark, like they're they're definitely I'm
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trying to set the mood with their cinematography and it's
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it is for watching late at night in a cave,
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unlike Alien My in my opinion, it's it's marinated.
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Like characters all don't.
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Just have the the what's on the surface going on, right,
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Like they don't just have the seasoning that you can
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taste like there who they are has been like saturated
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into them and like you there's a I know, the
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show is just very sensory and like all some of
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these people and that like that means it's really rich,
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very rich of narratives, very rich backstories going on for everybody,
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Like if that's your deal, it's got that in absolute
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droves and uh, it's it moves, it's fast, like the
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every episode is an hour. The only one that felt
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like an hour may have been the first one. Other
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than that, I look up, there's ten minutes left in
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the show, and that's the sign of something that has,
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you know, a really strong narrative. And I feel like
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that that's what this thing's got going for it more
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than anything. I like it.
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Task is a a family infused, propulsive modern tragedy. You know,
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it's a tragedy in the Shakespearean sense. We know these
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characters are going to places that aren't going to be happy, fuzzy,
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warm endings in most likelihoods. I also think it is
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a refinement of Brad Ingleby's storytelling style. Did you ever
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watch Mayor of Eastown?
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Not?
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Well, this is the This is his second show for HBO.
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Mayor of Eastown came out two three years ago and
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was so well received, you know, critically and put up
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for awards and whatnot that Inglesby got a three year
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deal with HBO on the heels of that show, and
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this is the first fruit of that contract is Task.
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Uh.
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I thought Mayor of Easttown was a very high quality
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drama that didn't really click for me completely. And I
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thought part of the reason why was it was relentless
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in its grimness and one color palette, and I think
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you could make some you know, crossover discussion between that
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and Task, but that it was also so deeply like
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Philly coated that it almost took me out of the
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show at times, because like literally every tertiary character would
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be wearing if it's not an Eagles jersey, it's a
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Flyer sweater, you know, like a villanova had. Like it
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would always just be like we need to say worder
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as many times as we can in order in the show.
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And something about that made me go, like, everyone loves
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this show and I just like it. But I really
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like Task. I feel like he's sanded some of his
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rougher edges and as mature as a storyteller, and I
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very much agree with you that he does an excellent job.
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In fact, I've seen interviews where he says, I'm really
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not into plot. I'm into character. I like to tell
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a character's story, and the plot is just kind of
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the vehicle that allows me to tell the character's story.
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And I really believe that watching Task because from you know,
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our ar titular heads you know, are to our protagonist
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and antagonists that are they're you know, on a collision
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course to the task Force members, to the biker gang members.
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As you said, not in there aren't too many one
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beat characters. There's a lot of characters who have at
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least a front beat and a backbeat, you know. And
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I really like that, and I feel like he's made
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it a little less. Here's some cheese whiz, you know,
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like slamming you with the philly on top. That it's
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it's really appealed to me.
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And that's kind of the the marinated sense I feel
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with it. Like the characters they don't they don't have
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one beat. A lot of them are in a certain
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place and so you only see one frequency from them,
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you know, by and large.
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And that's because nearly everybody has an insanely tragic backstory
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or traumatic events that they're going through when we find them,
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like for the new viewer, like you're gonna, You're gonna.
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I don't want to spoil any of the backstory bits,
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but some of them are really rich and kind of
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just out of out out of jokes almost. But these
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people are here and they're they're living their lives, and
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you know, I without having watched Mayor of East Town.
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Like I feel like when somebody gets a deal, like
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what Stude's name, his name is Brad, Like these deals
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that brad Ingles be got, like there's a little less
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pressure on them with this one, so they can be
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pretty indulgent. And if anything, this shows a little bit
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of that, Like it's really indulgent in the kind of
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trauma event surrounding nearly all the characters when it gets
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down to it, like when he does get to the plot,
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when the circumstances, you know, the lighter fluid of the
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circumstances meet the hot coals that are these people and
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their backstories. Uh, there's combustion. And that's what I really
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liked about the moving fast, like it's been compared to
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heat a lot. I felt like it was a lot
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like an entire last third of The Departed, Like things
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just are just one after they one after the other,
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and like it's that doesn't necessarily mean like people are dying,
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but it means that things are happening and you're getting
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introduced to new figures and all of whom you have
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an agenda of their own. And that's where it's good.
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And what I will say about this show that I
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really really like is one of my pet peeves, like
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the action sequence ending by the person coming up from
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behind and catching them right as the the pray is
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in peril. Is when violence doesn't have consequences. This was
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a little bit of an issue with some shows I've
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worked on in the past. And then I don't mean
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like a problem towards like the show being good, just
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towards me liking it and like buying in and investing
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into it. Is when violence is consequence free, it gives
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it like a pulpiness, and you know, it raises some
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of the stakes for me. And in this show, I
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can't think of a single act of violence that doesn't
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have kind of profound consequences. And without getting into spoiling,
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you know, even the smallest act of it has had
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profound implications for a character. So this show definitely does that,
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and I like mad respect for it, because in the
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drama world sometimes they.
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Don't totally agree. The setup, you know, very briefly, really
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leads to the thing that was the elevator pitch at HBO,
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and is the elevator pitch to anybody who is just
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a casual if you are driving by which is two
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great actors who both get meaty roles and are put
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in a propulsive drama in which they are going to
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be head to head. And those two actors are Mark Ruffalo,
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who plays FBI's special agent Tom Brandis. Tom Brandis is
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later in his FBI career and is backbenched. He's the
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kind of FBI agent who's showing up at job fares.
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He's the resident agent, remember, not the special agent agent.
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That's a good point. He is not a specially well,
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he's very not special what we mean him, he's extremely
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routine and in fact he's extremely depressed. And the reason
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is his wife has passed in a family tragedy that
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will be unspooled and is continuing to be unspooled as
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the special limited series progresses. However, by the pilot episode,
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he is being pulled in to lead a task force
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that is investigating a series of busts, violent busts of
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drug houses where drug houses are being robbed in the
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middle of the night. And these drug houses are all
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controlled by a biker gang that is ruling rule rural
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Pennsylvania and controlling the drug and gun trade in this
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part of the state. And this biker gang is called
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the Dark Hearts. Now we know immediately what's that.
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It sounded like they were saying the Dark Arts for
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a large part of this for me, and it kind
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of gave me like Harry Potter fives, like yeah, yeah,
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they're going after the Dark Arts. Oh no, Ministry of
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Magic ain't gonna like this.
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Yeah, and there's a Master of the Dark Arts and
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he just dies all the time. Oh well, what that
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actually does follow? The Master of the Dark Arts is
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really in trouble from Jump Street. But yeah, I had
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the same thing. That's why I made sure that I
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paused and enunciated our hearts. The Dark Hearts. Now we
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know who's up to these busts, and it is our
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other great actor in a major role, that is Tom Pelfrey.
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And Pelfrey is playing Robbie Prendergrast, who we meet as
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a lowly trash collector driving around, but he and his
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trash collecting partner Cliff, are actually using their routes to
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scope out drug houses. They're getting tips as to where
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the drug houses are. They use the garbage cans to
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figure out when they might be holding, when they've just
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sold stuff, and when they're going to have cash and
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then they use that information to pinch these houses at night.
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And that's the setup until in the pilot episode, one
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of these busts goes very wrong and puts these two
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characters on a collision course with one another, while both
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the FBI on one side and the biker gang on
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another side are scrambling to try and solve the crime,
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figure out who is doing these robberies, and figure out
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who has kidnap apt and important NPC. And that is
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the setup for task. That's what's going on over the
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course of this series. Definitely a grim series, But I
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don't know, Like I said, I'm making a comparison to
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a previous show that you haven't watched, so it's semi useless.
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But maybe for the audience it's okay. But I just
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didn't find this as dark and depressing as Mayor of Easttown.
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For me, I just don't think there's enough time to
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wallow in this show, because it feels like it's all
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taken place so far over the course of like three days.
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Yeah, no wallowing at all. Like based is deliberate, but
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I mean expedient, and that leads us.
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To the characters, and the character beats that both Chris
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and I have praised so far here non spoilery, and
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those character beats go through the task Force. Of course,
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we're introduced to all the members of the task Force,
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and you know, unsurprisingly everyone's got their own surface level
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stuff and then their own issues underneath. We've got Aliyah
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just wiping everything with wet wipes and I thought always
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she just going to be OCD. No, she's got her
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own backstory. You've got Lizzie Stover, who is a state
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police officer that has been kind of bumped to the
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task Force. Apparently she hasn't been doing great at her job.
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who was in House of the Dragon and was really
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good in House of the Dragon. He's a British actor.
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Thus Sombed was a British actor. Alison Oliver is Irish,
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and they have all learned the Western Pennsylvania dialect and
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they've done quite well at it.
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Taking our jobs. No like cast literally, no notes everybody
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brings it every single episode. The performances are great. It's
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and that includes uh, the only s o A alumni
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I have picked out. Like that doesn't mean there's no others.
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I'm not. I'm really bad with faces kind of famously,
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but Jamie McShane is playing Perry Durazzo, head of the
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Dark Hearts motorcycle enthusiast organization, and in s o A,
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Cammie played an irishman. So you know, it's just a
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it's a tick for tat so to speak.
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Indeed, Yeah, the Dark Caarts give us that other side,
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you know, of pursuit of crim'll pursuit and it's got
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you know, all sorts of you know, deeper layers because
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as you mentioned, Jamie mcshane's Perry, he's kind of a leader. Uh,
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the local chapter leader Jason played by Sam Keeley, he's
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in trouble. Uh the mother Council is down on him,
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uh and and whatnot. So and then of course with
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all these busts of the drug houses, you know, that's
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a lot of money that's being lost for the group.
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So there's a lot of pain that's going on within
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the motorcycle club. I was just curious as our local,
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you know, resident biker gang expert, a guy who you
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know had to get broken into the gang. You know,
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as a prospect moved forward. What your thoughts are on
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the Dark Hearts.
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You know, it's a world with a lot of literature
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on it and as a result, and there's like three
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to five you know, more popular books that it seems
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like everybody reads and they go into it. They read it,
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they did all their homework involving it. The club. The
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show isn't like about the club, so you're not seeing
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inner workings. You see a tiny bit of like politics,
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and you see how the club is laid out nationally,
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and you know that that stuff all felt really real.
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I can't really get into spoilers. There's one specific bit
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of behavior that happens within the club that you know,
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spoiler side of it, but all in all, you know,
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accurate depiction. Like when I say I can smell them,
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I can smell those bikers. You know they areak of
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chemicals and sweat and you know, maybe a little gunpowder.
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You know, had I did hear people talking about it
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before I saw the show, just because you don't see
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that subculture reflected too much in entertainment outside of Suns
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and like the weird spinoffs that were happening around the time.
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But yeah, they feel dangerous, I'll say that much.
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Uh. Yeah, I've enjoyed it, but I didn't know if
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it just felt like a hollow echo of what you
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guys had done previously, a copy pasta of that, or
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if it seemed reflective.
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Of more Our show was so much more soapy but
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involved in the culture like ours. This isn't a soap opera,
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you know, this is this is something a little bit
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more grounded, and Sons was like an adrenalized soap opera.
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I think that was I think that was sepen Wall
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that that first coined that, But it's one hundred percent true,
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and it was what it was aiming to be too,
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like you know, with with Shakespeare on steroids, whereas this
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is just very different and it's very grounded, and you know,
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the National Club being involved seems very real and very
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of the world and where things were going to go.
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on the Dark Carts, he certainly could. He seems to
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have have his finger on the pulse of what they're about.
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Absolutely and what I've enjoyed about this show. And listen,
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we're gonna get into the spoilers here pretty quick, because
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if you like task you want to get to that
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right away and you don't want us to just hem
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and haw around the show. I like this show. I've
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really liked it. I've liked it since the first episode.
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And for me, I like it because of the depth
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of the quality of the acting and then the depth
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of the purpose of the show. The one area that
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we haven't gotten into. We've gotten into the FBI, we've
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gotten into the Task Force, but the family side is
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carried out on both sides of the story. You've got
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Tom Brandis's family, which is dealing with tragedy, and that
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is reflected in his two daughters, one by birth, one adopted.
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Emily is adopted. Her brother was also adopted by the family.
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He's in jail. You find that out in the pilot.
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You find out why shortly thereafter, but all of that
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is coded in tragedy. His birth daughter, older daughter, Sarah,
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is caught in all of this and has come to
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town to try and work through it. But both of
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those people are reflective of the problems within the brandis family.
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And then on the prendergrass side, you've got May played
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by Amelia Jones, another British actress. But I think she's
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just terrific in this role and has been maybe maybe
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even the best overall to me on the series through
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five episodes. And she is just kind of the classic
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young woman who's had to grow up faster than she
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should have had to, that is caught in the middle
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of a dysfunctional family and is doing the very best
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she can. And to me, she's the emotional center of
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this entire show.
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She's at least a little bit of the moral center,
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which is nice to have gone. And you know, some
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shows get really indulgent in the abuse of these type
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of characters to kind of like elicit a reaction from
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the audience, and that has not been the case. You know,
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this is she's just been another person trying to navigate
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an insane situation that's been thrust upon her, which is
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basically every character. I think she's fantastic, And but to
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like the broader point of like where everybody is dealing
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with the family stuff, you know, I get it. There's
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a seven episodes that you need to fill and he
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wants to paint the picture of what influences these people's
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decisions and pay off, you know, how they got here,
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and I get that, but you know, there's just so
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much of it. Every single character. It seems like every
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character gets the speech that actor auditioned with, you know,
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because a lot of times when you auditioned for shows
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like this, they choose the media's part or one of
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the media's parts from the pilot or the first two
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or three episodes to give to you because they want
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to see if you can get there. You know, all
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the rest of the stuff they'll figure out, but if
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you can get and understand where the character is coming
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on these foundational moments. So they show you, like a
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really heavy monologue and they want to see that. Other
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times they just make up things that aren't will never
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even be in the show, but just to show like
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some sort of character traitor or see who they are.
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And it feels like in this show, like we've like
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these people auditioned with those monologues because once you get
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to them, like they're fair. Some of them seem uh,
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you know, the actors are just getting into it, and
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I feel like I would be very curious to see
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just how many of the the you know, the the
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exposing of the soul monologues got used in the auditions.
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Well, let's get to our spoiler break, because there's twists,
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there's double crosses, there's a Shakespearean tragedy unfolding. Uh, we're
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going to get into all of the details of that
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after this quick break. You can tell both Chris and
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I recommend task and when we come back, our task
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will be to unravel this spool of yarn and will
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do so right after this. All right, Chris, let's get
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into it. I felt like the first couple episodes set
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the stage. Episodes three and four slowed down just a
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little bit to move all the pieces on the board
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in order, and then episode five pushed the ball at
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the top of the hill for it to start to roll.
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And here we go, and we're gonna keep careening downhill
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until we get to the denuma of this, which I
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don't know if it will be in episode six or
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if it will be in episode seven. I could even
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see this thing resolve in episode six, and episode seven
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is a fallout finale, kind of like dealing with all
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of the emotional aspects of this after Robbie gets caught
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slash killed.
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Er.
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I don't think so maybe I don't know. I think
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I think. I think there's still hijinks yet to happen.
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Like I I think Robbie is is leaving the Woods alive,
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so to speak. Yeah, probably maybe with Tom as his hostage.
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I don't know, maybe a captive of the dark hearts.
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Yeah, or or does he kill Tom on his way out?
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That's another thought I have. Obviously, our two characters get
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together in episode five, we finally get that moment. I
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really enjoyed it with Ruffalo, Yeah, playing up the rumbled.
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I'm rumpled, I'm old, I'm disheveled. I can't figure it out.
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But you know what I truly love about this show,
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Chris that Heat comparison, right, and and people said, you know,
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the elevator pitch is like Heat meets Sons of Anarchy, Right, Okay,
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well kind of. But the thing about Heat, the thing
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about Heat is both of the leads are one of
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the best at what they do. Robert de Niro is
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great at robbing banks, and he's never been caught, and
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and he's he's done it so many times, and he's
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so disciplined. You know, he never what I forget the
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exact phrasing, but like, you know, you can never be
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so attached to something that if you hear the word,
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you can't just drop it and walk away, you know,
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is the basic of that. And on the other side,
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al Pacino is like the best at catching these guys
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and leading that.
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It's his white whale.
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Yes, exactly like they but they're both excellent, you know.
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And so there's like excellence going against head to head,
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and and it's and it's gonna come to an inevitable conclusion.
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Yes, yes, two teams that aren't making the playoffs having
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an absolute banger of a weekend series is what this is.
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Tom brandis is not very good at what he does.
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He's not a great leader, he's not particularly perceptive, he's
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not exactly the best of his field. But Robbie is
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really bad at this. He's not good at really any
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part of this. Once everything goes to shit, and I
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like that. I don't need everybody to always be a
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step ahead. Really, the audience is a step ahead of
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these characters the entire way. But I think Inglesby has
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written it in a way that it never feels.
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The only professionals on the field are the dark hearts,
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and they're the danger. They're like the malignant force that
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could hurt either of these two, you know, series leads.
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I can't call them both protagonists. I think Mark Ruffalos
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the protagonist, and I hate a show that makes me
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root for the cop entirely.
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But that's what's going on.
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Here for sure. That's so such a funny way of
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putting it, Craig, because you are right, and that is
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very charming about this show. I want to say that
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while they feel dangerous and like, I don't feel like
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Mave's done getting in it. I feel like this is
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a show of deception. And that's why I feel like
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it's more like The Departed, because the danger in The
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Departed isn't in who's the most powerful, who's the most smart,
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It's in who knows what and who on your team
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is really not playing for your team. And the show
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did not like lay that all out. It hasn't been
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eager to like let us in on the secrets in
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a way to kind of pull us along, right, Like,
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the secrets are the secrets, and those are going to
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have the consequences that work out. I feel like the
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mole problem is going to be worked out in the
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next episode, and then seven is going to be about
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it all coming to light. I the one thing about
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the show is that if we had done a death
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poll in order, I would be three for three in
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the timeline. Right now, it's been a little. It's been
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a little like you know, what's gonna happen because these
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people haven't had their monologue? Like what's the dude in
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the very beginning, Oh, he has the nickname. He has
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each get so like Peaches gets a little bit of
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the monologue about the girl, but that's it. But you know,
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Peaches is done just because he didn't get to go swimming,
478
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and then that happens, and then Cliff, you know, you
479
00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:54.960
hear that he's an ex con, but like, you know,
480
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:58.680
Cliff is gonna happen with what it is. And then finally,
481
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:03.240
you know, air In, you know, like she never got
482
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:06.759
her monologue, and like all those pieces felt expendable. They
483
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:10.960
felt like the characters were kind of breadcrumbs that we're
484
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:15.440
gonna get eaten up along the way. And I feel
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like the next one of those is grosso interesting.
486
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.200
Okay, So the one thing we didn't talk about pre
487
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:25.440
spoiler zone that we absolutely could have. Is another one
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00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:27.640
of the things I've enjoyed the most on the show,
489
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:32.799
which is the Lizzie Grosso. It's the only it's the.
490
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:35.160
Only like different color of the tone that's in a
491
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:39.240
different palette than like saturated brown, you know.
492
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:45.160
Yeah exactly. And I really like Lizzie's character and her insecurities,
493
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:48.400
but the a bulliance that she does have.
494
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:49.200
Uh.
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00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.400
And then you know, Grosso has been so reserved and
496
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:57.359
he's got kind of like these religious undertones at times.
497
00:32:57.440 --> 00:32:59.039
You know, the two of them hook up, but he
498
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:02.359
doesn't want to do it in her marital beds.
499
00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:04.079
I just loved that.
500
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:07.920
I love that, like this guy's got hang ups, he
501
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.480
doesn't he wants to be so smooth, you know. And
502
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:13.680
just the whole thing of DJ grossa Nova as his
503
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:16.480
college DJ name, and then she turns it into DJ
504
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:22.000
Gross and no pussy Like It's been really fun. The
505
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.759
sweetness of it. When they're at the bar and the
506
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:28.559
stadies who know Lizzie come in and start calling her
507
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:32.920
stovetop and giving her crap and really making her feel,
508
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:36.480
you know, like a mouse in a box. And then
509
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:38.920
he stands up and does a little speech for her,
510
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:42.880
and you know it shows his White Night gallantry. I
511
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:47.720
will say, Chris, at that moment, I was like, Grosso
512
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:54.119
is the just one billion percent When he was given
513
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:57.039
that speech about you know, the good ones and the
514
00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:58.839
ones who stand up for it, and there are some
515
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:00.519
of them in here and there's some that aren't, you know,
516
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:04.079
but the best is Lizzie. I'm like, yeah, Grosso, you're
517
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.319
the male dude, You're one hundred percent them all. And
518
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:11.360
of course we find that out in episode five. My
519
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:15.199
question though, on the mole front, is he alone or
520
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:18.480
is Martha Plimpton working with him? I feel like she
521
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:22.079
is just too overbooked for her role not to have
522
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:24.920
a sinister I think that she's a little bit of
523
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:25.599
a red herring.
524
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:30.679
I don't think she is. I I don't know, like
525
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:35.119
it could be it. I just I just go to like, what, yeah,
526
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:37.000
because they haven't given us anything on her.
527
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:38.000
She hasn't had her.
528
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:41.599
Character monologue, they haven't had a Grosso give his yet.
529
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:44.880
Just a little bit of the marriage betest sacred even
530
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:50.800
in things that are not marriages. Maybe like it. Maybe
531
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:52.360
it could be a little bit of a Sam Neil
532
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:59.320
situation going in. But I feel like I feel like
533
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:02.400
there's not a ton of rolls out there for boss
534
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:05.000
bitches over a certain age, and I don't put too
535
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:08.360
much into her getting it, you know what I mean?
536
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:13.840
Yeah, I could be wrong. I just well, she had
537
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:16.360
like she's had a couple of key beats. There was
538
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:20.000
the time she was talking to Tom about the mole
539
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:22.920
and they made a point of showing her reacting to
540
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:27.559
him talking and she did like the classic eyes fluttering,
541
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:33.480
look down, look a little guilty, and then he walks
542
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:35.599
out of her office and she immediately picks up the
543
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:37.840
phone and says, we have a problem. There's a moment
544
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:41.800
to who Yeah, that could be it. It could be
545
00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:44.159
as simple as she's saying to somebody the you know,
546
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:46.840
the problem is that we've I do believe Tom now
547
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:48.679
we do have a mole. Or it could be her
548
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:52.280
calling Perry saying we've got a problem. They're on to us,
549
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:55.920
they're on to Grosso So I don't know, we'll get
550
00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:59.360
that sorted Over the course, I lean towards she's part
551
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.519
of it, just for the Yeah, the sam Neil uh
552
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:06.039
over the Cross Extremes V Two point oher sam Neil
553
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.039
Official overbooked for my role.
554
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:14.599
Perfect example. You won't find conspiracy in fucking Jurassic Park,
555
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:16.840
just hanging out in the National Park.
556
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:28.239
Just offered bed for my perfect marriage.
557
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:31.280
Oh man, right.
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00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:40.719
In a here's something funny. I feel like task. I'm
559
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:44.400
curious how they're going to do it in seven because
560
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:46.239
I feel like this is a show they could have
561
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:51.920
done both in five and in like eight or nine.
562
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:55.360
And the reason for that is the there's topics that
563
00:36:55.440 --> 00:37:01.440
are briefly explored but not deeply explored, Like religion in
564
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:04.960
this show is a theme in the show, but it's
565
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.400
just touched upon, you know, moments to moments. You've got
566
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:13.280
the season opening pilot where you find out that Tom
567
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:14.960
used to be a priest and he meets with his
568
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.679
old priest friend and you know, he's drinking and lashing
569
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:23.639
out and everything. You get Dj Grosso talking to Tom
570
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:26.960
about his time in the priesthood and why he left,
571
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:30.760
and then you get, of course, the incredible scene in five,
572
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:35.920
you know, where Robbie has abducted Tom and is driving
573
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:37.719
him out to the woods, and then he's talking about
574
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:40.079
I don't think there's anything after this life, you know,
575
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:42.920
and they kind of get into the spiritual side of it.
576
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:47.519
I don't know. I feel like this could have this
577
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:56.760
plus the Brandese family tragedy. You know, adopted son kills
578
00:37:56.840 --> 00:38:02.000
the mother and has mental issue and is in jail,
579
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:03.639
and is the family going to speak out on his
580
00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:07.039
behalf or not h And then Emily the daughter who
581
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:11.159
you know, discovers that Tom doesn't want her brother back
582
00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:14.679
in the house. You know how she has to process
583
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:18.000
all of this grief and try and you know, grow
584
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:21.400
and mature through it. All of these are very interesting.
585
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:25.000
They could have all been more deeply explored, or they
586
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:29.280
could have been omitted completely for a propulsive, more BBC
587
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:35.400
style like five episode tight uh crime story. It's they
588
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:38.599
brand Englesy kind of chose a middle ground here.
589
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:46.559
I don't mind that really. I like a network allowing
590
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:49.679
the flexibility there, which is what I assume happened. You know,
591
00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:54.519
they don't want to add to the budget. That's ultimately
592
00:38:54.679 --> 00:39:00.920
not their business model. So the question is like would
593
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:05.079
it have been more effective? Like I it just is
594
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:08.639
a personal taste thing when it comes down to these shows.
595
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:12.239
And I do laugh when a guy has had a
596
00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:15.639
family tragedy, but he's also a priest or. You know,
597
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:20.559
I don't laugh, What I mean is I get a
598
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:24.480
little skeptical, like my I'm reading the script as opposed
599
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:28.719
to hearing the story thing kind of kicks in, like
600
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:32.880
I'm hearing the writer un less the character in those
601
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:38.760
moments sometimes, but I feel like the show lets itself
602
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:45.039
off the hook in that regard with how layered it
603
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:49.719
is and how each act of violence has consequences. For instance,
604
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:55.280
when Sam gets seen at the river trying to release
605
00:39:55.320 --> 00:40:00.119
a fish that had been caught, a tiny, little, you know,
606
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:04.719
bluegill fish that isn't gonna feed anybody. Robbie chooses to
607
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:07.159
keep it and say, yeah, we're gonna fry that up.
608
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:11.519
That's delicious. And the little kid sees this living creature,
609
00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:16.840
This captive kid who sees this creature made captive can't
610
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:19.320
do that, so he sneaks off while in the car
611
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:21.880
to let this fish go in the river. He's trying
612
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:24.679
to correct an act of violence, and doing so, he
613
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:28.320
gets seen by a stranger. Stranger says, hey, little boy,
614
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:30.639
what are you doing here all alone in the woods.
615
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:33.639
Maybe this kid I've seen on the news. I don't know.
616
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.719
This kid looks kind of what's going on if he
617
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:39.400
asks where his dad is, and that's when Robbie stumps
618
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:43.519
upon the upon them, him and Cliff, they grab the kid.
619
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:47.280
It's not a good scene. And then Robbie commits an
620
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:51.119
act of violence. Hey beats the crap out a violence,
621
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:57.239
and then that leads to Sam's picture being revealed to
622
00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:01.360
the FBI and the NET and them, Like, I feel
623
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:05.400
like that example you can go to every single time
624
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:11.760
a character gets violent and it has consequences, and I like,
625
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:15.119
I feel like that is what propuls propels it and
626
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:19.920
what allows it to be a little indulgent in the backstories.
627
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:26.280
You know, oh gosh, what's the name of the agent
628
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:31.760
on the task force with the domestic violence backstory? That
629
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:36.039
would be It's It starts with Aliyah. She you know,
630
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:41.280
her tragic backstory comes in perfect comes in handy at
631
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:45.920
the perfect time when they've got to interrogate a woman
632
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:51.239
who's obviously in a violent, inescapable marriage. And like, I
633
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:54.199
just find those things a little convenient that the show
634
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:57.000
is a little writery, But that's not a bad thing.
635
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:01.039
Like that's that can to some people. That's just the
636
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:04.440
richest of the story. Only drawback to it is sometimes
637
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:06.559
it felt like I was reading it rather than like
638
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:08.960
being told it. I think that's really fair.
639
00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:17.239
Yeah, as as good of a monologue as that was
640
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:22.559
for Thuso and Medu, you know in the police station. Yeah,
641
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:26.079
that's where that's where the script is jumping out because
642
00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:28.280
like we had no all we knew about her was
643
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:33.079
she was quiet and clean, very confident, and she's like here, right,
644
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:36.679
here's three minutes on why you know, on the abusive
645
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:40.920
relationship I've lived through and how it's changed my entire life. Yeah,
646
00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:44.880
that is very ritery, but it kind of plays to
647
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:47.719
the time slot to me as well. That's one thing
648
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:49.079
I would really say, and I could have said on
649
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:53.800
the first half of the pod, this task really just
650
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:56.440
feels like HBO Sunday Night.
651
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:01.039
You know, It's just it's right. I didn't even kind
652
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:03.239
of think of that because you know, the streaming age
653
00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:05.480
and whatnot, But I agree.
654
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:09.880
You know, it's the classic time slot ever since Sopranos,
655
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:13.639
in Boardwalk, Empire and through all the different shows in Deadwood,
656
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:17.320
absolutely all of the different HBO prestige shows, and Mayor
657
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:19.920
of Eastown was in that slot a couple of years ago,
658
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:25.000
you know. But it just feels right, like it feels
659
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:27.159
like the right show for the right time, for the
660
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:31.119
right platform, and that it wouldn't have been as good
661
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:32.679
if it was a Hulu show because it would have
662
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:35.920
been disneyed up, you know, so on and so forth.
663
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:41.000
So that writery aspect of it, I kind of want that, HPO,
664
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:47.039
you know what I mean, Like I want those prestige notes.
665
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:48.599
I want that screening.
666
00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:52.920
Srange never had a monologue about the cocksucker who stole
667
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:58.519
his is pricycles as a young Wan in the Old Country,
668
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:04.400
Like I like, you're right though, Like I I like
669
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:08.639
this show. I it is structured as a mini series,
670
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:14.599
if I'm not mistaken, which I'm grateful for and also
671
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:20.559
sad for, like because like I with television, I like
672
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:25.039
being able to travel through the universe with these characters,
673
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:28.880
you know, I like to be propelled millions of miles
674
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:31.519
over the course of a few years and and go
675
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:35.360
on that journey. But HBO, as I said earlier, like
676
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:38.440
they're a really smart studio with how they do these things,
677
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:43.880
and the fact that Watchmen was one serious season will
678
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:46.639
always be like such a like tip of the cap
679
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:50.440
in that regard, and if that's where this is gonna go,
680
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:56.480
like I'm I'm ready for that to an extent. I
681
00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:57.320
totally agree.
682
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:03.440
Looking to the last couple episodes of the series, I
683
00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:08.840
have to assume we've got a couple more tragic flashbacks
684
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:14.800
two that we need for the show. Number one on
685
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:20.000
that list, unquestionably is the death of Tom Brandis's wife, because,
686
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:23.679
speaking of the Sam Neil school of overbooked for your role,
687
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:29.760
morel Enos, the lead of the killing it's on this
688
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:32.840
so far, has been on this show for one flashback
689
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:37.519
scene for like a minute, but we've heard about the
690
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:41.480
story of her untimely passing, so I feel like that's
691
00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:45.000
coming in the next two episodes. It could maybe lead
692
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:47.519
episode six. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the
693
00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:54.400
you know whoe start to episode six, how Grosso got
694
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:58.119
tied in with the Dark Hearts. I feel like that's
695
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:01.920
got to come out of something, and maybe it comes
696
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:07.639
out of the Redding biker gang battle, because that's something
697
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:10.760
that's been referenced. And we saw one clip on an
698
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:13.719
iPad Chris that looked like they had to book like
699
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:19.639
one hundred and fifty actors for a scene, and I'm like,
700
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.760
did they do all of that and probably like two
701
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:28.480
days for two and a half seconds in black and
702
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:30.559
white on an iPad or are we going to see
703
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:35.360
that whole thing? And maybe that offers us some insight
704
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:39.880
into Jason's relationship with Robbie's brother, you know, because that
705
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:42.639
would be the other flashback would be Jason killing Robbie's brother,
706
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:46.639
who we have seen in a flashback himself at the quarry.
707
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:49.760
I feel like at least two of those have to
708
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:50.159
show up.
709
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:56.400
It is such an inside baseball perspective on that scene
710
00:46:56.440 --> 00:47:02.719
because all that footage is mirroring a famous battle between
711
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:08.159
to real life biker gangs and Reno, and it looked
712
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:13.760
almost identical to that footage. But you're absolutely right, like
713
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:19.000
they had to make quite a production to get that product,
714
00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:22.360
and it almost seems like it would be a waste
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if it goes unused. But you know, they did untie
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the lead, which was the gun, and they now know
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all that. But the gun, you know, not not Robbie's
718
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gun and not not Chekhov's gun, but his brother's gun
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has been remained unfired. So we will I feel like, sure, yeah,
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that can come into play. I just think, like I'm
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brandis this theme has been forgiveness, and that is what
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Robb's character could not find and not even he can find.
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He needed vengeance, he needed the antithesis of forgiveness, and
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that's what's got him into trouble where he's at. So
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I don't know how that resolves itself. I think.
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So no through that, So it's it's through the witnessing
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of the tragedy of Robbie's end and maybe what happens
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to Mave or to his kids that is going to
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lead Tom to find forgiveness for his own son. And
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episode seven, I don't know if it ends, but one
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of the critical beats of episode seven is him finally
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deciding to make a statement on his son's behalf and
733
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we see that and that's his like last big monologue, and.
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It becomes the trajectory of task And it's a one
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season like I will have incredible respect for it because ultimately,
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out of these stories, that's what I want at the end.
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I want a little bit of an uplifting I want
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hope in the future. I am going to be so
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fucking mad. Craig Elston, if Sons of Anarchy ever does
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an able and uh, what's the name of the other kid?
741
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The twins and sons the two is okay? I don't
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think it.
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Was Oh no, I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.
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It was able And I can't remember the name of
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the other the other of Jackson's kids. If they ever
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do a spin off of Sons with Jackson's kids in
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motorcycle clothes, I'm going to be so upset and so
748
00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:58.599
bummed out because that was the other color of that show.
749
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:01.159
Like that was the hope that as the sunshine on
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the horizon of that show was the kids getting out
751
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of there and having a better future. And if they
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ever renig on that, I'm going to be really upset.
753
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:17.880
But you know, but money's money and ips are only
754
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so limited because we won't have any new ones once
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the AI overlords before we kick in. But I'll be
756
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mad if they do that. And if this show can
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can pull us out of you know what they're gonna
758
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do to the character they show us the most, which
759
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is Robbie, I will be really impressed and will like
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the show. I have only liked this show more, not
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with every episode, but as it has like I like
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it the most after after episode five and most ways
763
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I felt that I agree with you.
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The very last thing I want to say briefly, because
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we got to wrap up pretty quick is if this
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is in fact the end for the character of our
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00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:12.000
young DNPC Sam. I'm also impressed because as soon as Sam,
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with his big wide eyes and his innocence was kidnapped
769
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at the end of episode one, it just felt like
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he was going to be the tragic sacrifice.
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To some thing. The intentions aren't there, but then unfortunately
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he's gone. I was terrified of that, Greg, and that.
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Was yeah, yeah, drowns in the quarry or right, wanders off,
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you know, whatever it is. And in episode five, Sam
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is just dropped off to the cops, like basically off stage.
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That's all for Sam. Sam's cool now, And honestly, if
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that's the end, I actually think that's impressive because Sam
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was used as an accelerant without being you as a
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tragic piece, which is smarmy isn't the right word, but
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00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:09.159
it's really do we really need yeah, do we really
781
00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:12.239
need Sam's you know, broken body or bloody body to
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00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:17.519
propel this forward? And if they say no, the adults
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00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:19.639
are going to take the consequence. Sam was just there
784
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to really get the thing going, to get the biker
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00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:27.440
gang moving faster. You know, fine, fine by me, well
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said all right. Task Episode six and seven coming up
787
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:36.480
a couple of weeks from now. We'll wrap it up.
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I think we know where it goes where it's going,
789
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but I'm really curious to see how they play it out. Okay,
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let's wrap up with what we're watching, which is going
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to set the stage for future episodes. Most definitely what
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you been watching.
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You both have one thing on our list that is
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the same, so I will let you lead with that.
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Jesse and I have been watching the latest season of
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Only Murders in the Building and it's been a lot
797
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of fun. This has been the season that they kinda
798
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:11.840
go into a real life situation for our characters. If
799
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you are unfamiliar, Steve Martin plays a washed up Colombo
800
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asque not Colombo is in what Mark Ruffalow was doing
801
00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:27.719
in Task, but like a Peter Falk type character, and
802
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:29.880
he's famous for having a big show in the eighties
803
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:34.159
called Brazos. Martin short is kind of like this semi
804
00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:39.320
successful Broadway but mostly off off Broadway director who is
805
00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:43.360
living in the same building with Steve Martin and Selena
806
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:46.679
Gomez who as like this tragic backstory. They launch a
807
00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:48.920
podcast in season one because there's a murder in the
808
00:53:48.920 --> 00:53:51.599
building they need to solve, and so it's a send
809
00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:56.760
up of true crime and also of detective shows. And
810
00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:01.159
it's funny. It's got a lot of fun. Who'd done
811
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it to it? And they're not precious about any of it.
812
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The first first episode of this season had a family
813
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:13.840
full of Italian brothers living in literally the house from
814
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:18.079
The Godfather. So it's a lot of fun. It's a
815
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goofy show with a fair amount of blood and little
816
00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:25.760
who done it's going on, And the season has been
817
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a lot of fun.
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00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:32.480
Good stuff, man, And I know you're still watching Better
819
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:36.639
Call Saul and whatnot, but good, good one only murders
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in the building. I watched season one. I just never
821
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:41.199
gets to take it. But it sounds like it's one
822
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of those yeah you can, you can pick it up
823
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in it and.
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Shorts character only eats dips, and like, maybe this show
825
00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:52.719
is good for people only. You know. I did like that. Yeah,
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he's dip intensive.
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I'm watching The Lowdell for you two shows.
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Yes I am.
829
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I'm watching The Lowdown. I'm on episode two. There's three
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out and a fourth that's coming out tomorrow, but that
831
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is currently right in the middle of my you know,
832
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screen viewing, and I really enjoyed the pilot and I'm
833
00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:20.039
not surprised at all. Sterlin Harjo is incredible And in fact,
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our next episode, episode two fifty five of Crossing Streams,
835
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will be Chris and I looking at the first four
836
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episodes of The Lowdown along with the finale of a
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show we covered a couple weeks back Platonic, So that
838
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will be episode two fifty five. So far, so very,
839
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very good for The Lowdown, and Ethan Hawk is just
840
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doing it all with his physical comedy act. Who takes
841
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:47.400
a beating better than Ethan Hawk? That dude's wild eyes
842
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:51.920
are incredible. Season five of Slow Horses is off to
843
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:57.679
a fucking incredible start, not just good great, and a
844
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lot of the horse horseheads are saying this is the
845
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best season since season one, and so far I would
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absolutely agree. First two episodes were boffo. Lastly, Peacemaker season
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two has been so so good and I think this
848
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is as good of anything as James Gunn has done.
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Is what he's done with Peacemaker, he is He has
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really created a show that I'm dying to watch each week,
851
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:27.559
even with some plot twists in this season that you
852
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:32.039
could see coming one thousand miles away. It lived up
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to everything. It is a show that is very very funny,
854
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you know, for being everything else that it is. It's
855
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extremely funny. And I've just I've truly enjoyed season two
856
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:50.480
of Peacemaker, which has a season finale coming out on Thursday.
857
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So I couldn't recommend it enough. I know you haven't
858
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even watched season one. I would recommend that too. I
859
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just think it's a great, great example of what the
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00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:06.920
superhero genre can be, and and you know, of a
861
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:09.639
twist of it in a really delightful.
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Supposing that one frequency. Many of them are.
863
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Exactly exactly. It's like so many things almost everything was
864
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one frequency. And then you had the Boys, which was like, yeah,
865
00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:25.039
what if? But the heroes are villains and everything is
866
00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:30.840
you know, just awful and satirical and cynical, and Peacemaker
867
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:35.159
is is in between that. And it's like I said,
868
00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:38.239
it's funny, but it's also dark. It's got superhero stuff,
869
00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:40.800
but it's also got you know, personal and family themes.
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And John Cena is really really good, like he's really
871
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:47.519
good in it all all the way through. Couldn't recommend
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00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:50.320
it enough. And that's what we're watching all right. That's
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the end of episode number two fifty four. Want to
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say thanks to all of you if you've made it
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to the end here and you can give us that
876
00:57:56.039 --> 00:57:58.199
quick little five storm review just you know, thumbing down
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in your phone could probably take you five seconds to
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do it. Really appreciate. Also remind you to email us.
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Email us task. What do you think is going to
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happen in the last two weeks, What have you liked
881
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:09.519
and disliked about the show, and what are you watching
882
00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:12.719
these days? Send us an email. Crossing Streams TV podcast
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at gmail dot com. Until we meet again for Chris read,
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I'm Craig Elston. Hoping everything you watch this week is
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terrific and we'll catch you next time. On Crossing Streams,
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I I I I Night, Love to Lose and Bears
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on the Night. What ither doing?
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Baby?
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Just to be go go to you, ry to one,
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Come to me.