Experiences That Last a Lifetime - Marcus Scott | Ep. 70

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And I know some people kind of feel that way about being behind the camera because we have to constantly being an actor is being able to dive into the art form in a way that you step outside of yourself.
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It's not about the the the awards and stuff.
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That's great.
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That's great nominations.
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That's great.
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It's great.
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I'm not downplaying it because I think it's important for people to.
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I gotta sit down and get into the social media space again because in the air, let it speak.
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But listen, man.
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Today we we sit here.
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We got a little bit of a lot of a lot to cover.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Because you do everything.
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I don't know if you know.
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I just get right into it.
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Okay.
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That's great.
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So yeah.
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So listen, y'all.
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We are back with another episode.
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Hold on.
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I don't even like the way that sounds.
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Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
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Welcome back to another episode of Creative Roots Podcast where seeing someone become visions grown.
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I am your host, Tay.
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And today, like I said, we got a lot.
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We got a little bit of a lot to cover.
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I'm sitting here with award-nominated, award-winning, uh, uh, uh this man got so many times I can't even spit them all out.
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Actor of the year, is that what it was?
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It was best male lead.
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I've been nominated.
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I've been nominated for actor of the year a few times.
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And I lead a lot of people, and I ain't got that title.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So listen, y'all, we are sitting here with none other than Mr.
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Marcus Scott.
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Thank you.
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How you doing?
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I'm doing great.
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I am doing great.
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Great.
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So listen, y'all know I don't introduce people no more because I've been butchering them.
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So, Marcus, can you please tell the people who you are and what you do?
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My name is Marcus Scott.
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Um, I'm an actor by trade.
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Um, I still have my day job, so it's not like I'm, you know, killing it out here, but I am doing my best to try to kill it as much as I can.
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He's killing it, y'all.
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Don't let this man tell y'all that he's killing it.
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Um, like Tay said, I am uh I did just recently uh win Best Male Lead for uh my contribution to the musical The Gift.
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And uh what an experience.
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Um I was surrounded by a great cast and crew, um, great fearless leader and Miss Vicky L.
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Evans that wrote it.
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And uh it wasn't the first time that that production had been here, it was just the first time that I led it.
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And uh man, when I tell you an experience, that was a great experience because it's it's art imitating life.
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And when you look at the how everything developed within the play, it is it was spot on.
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I mean, you just never know where your help's gonna come from and where who who God's gonna send your way, you know, to help you out.
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So um of course, bonds.
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Every cast kind of bonds, you know, yeah, uh, in a certain kind of way.
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And we have like a cast family, but it's everyone is different.
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So, not to take away from any other cast that I've ever been on, but we, you know, that cast has their has we have our memories because we had experiences together that that last a lifetime.
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Experiences that last a lifetime.
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I think that's gonna be the title of of this episode.
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That's what we're gonna put.
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If it ain't up there, y'all.
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Hey, continue watching.
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It's okay.
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So listen, uh, what Marcus didn't tell y'all, just like Jennifer didn't tell y'all last week, no, we're not cousins.
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Okay, let's get that one out the way.
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But um, we all had a helping hand in the short film Eight Ball that I was telling y'all about.
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Um, Marcus, can you tell what your role was in that?
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Absolutely.
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I was a production assistant and camera operator.
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So uh the production assistant role was basically uh taking notes on set, what cameras we were using for what scenes, um, how many takes, and uh so that when Ollie went back to do the editing, so he'd know which one we were actually going to use, what takes we were gonna use, which ones were the best, top two or three, you know.
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If we had one, that was just you know, no doubt, uh you know, note that as well, that kind of thing.
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And then the camera operator that came about with uh some of the South Park shots.
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Uh we were there and um moving around because we didn't Ollie doesn't really pinpoint, even though you have a title, he doesn't pinpoint you and pigeonhole you into that.
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Like if we can use you in something else, he'll he'll allow you to do that.
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So that's kind of how that came about.
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But it was a great experience to be able to, you know, move a camera around a little bit and see because that's my first time doing that.
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I'm used to being on the other side of the camera, you know.
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So it was it was awesome.
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It was an awesome experience.
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And and I'm so proud of the finished product.
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You did your thing, my brother.
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I can't, I'm telling you.
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I mean, I wasn't even gonna say nothing about me.
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You know, I gotta give you your props.
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Yeah, hey man.
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And for me, it was it was it was one of those things that's it's just a natural thing for me to do.
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You know, so of course when I asked, I was like, yeah, whatever.
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I got you.
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Yeah, you know, and I sat down, I put this stuff together, and he was like, Man, this is great.
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Yes, I've already watched it three times.
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This is great.
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Since you said that, the day after the premiere, um I was the first person at church.
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So I'm back into the parking space, and I was sitting there watching it on my phone.
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So Ollie pulls up, she pulls up right beside me.
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We both rolled out windows now and they showed our phones when we were both watching it.
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It was so funny, we just started laughing.
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It was so funny.
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I mean, but it it came together so well.
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It did, it did, you know, and you know, cast and crew.
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Yes, you know, I didn't get to see anybody until the premiere.
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I only knew faces and names, and I'm like, I don't know any of these people like just walk up and be like, hey, you know, I'm Tay, how you doing?
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Because everybody the way I felt, everybody would have been like, okay.
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And that means, you know, so I kind of just shied away.
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Hey.
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Some of us I would have known.
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Some of us would have known.
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Yeah, but yeah, I get where you're coming from.
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Yeah, because I mean, I like um uh Brittany.
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Of course I knew exactly who she was, right?
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You know, um, and of course I know Ollie, you know, right?
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And you know, just seeing pictures and everything, I was like, okay, I recognize some of these people.
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And then to me, to see y'all, you know, right there, it was a whole different thing of like not starstruck, but it's like, I know that person.
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Yeah, it's you know, like how when you see a celebrity, it's like, hey, but just like putting a face with the name.
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Yeah, yes, yes.
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I said I know exactly what you mean.
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I'm sorry about this.
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I'm trying to put this on side.
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Oh, you can't.
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Hey man, listen, I can't tell you how many times my phone done rang, uh uh Shamar's phone done ring.
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Listen, if the phone ring, I'd just be like, Shamar would answer the phone.
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So don't even worry about it.
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Shamar would be like, hey, we recording the podcast right now.
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Hey, I gotta call it.
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No, we recording right now.
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Like right now, right now.
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Bye.
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So you good?
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Like if my wife called, I'd be like, sweet, I'm recording, I call you that.
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All right, yeah, I love I love you too.
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Okay.
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But I gotta go.
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Okay, bye.
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Okay, okay.
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You know, yeah, my kids call, but man, listen.
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I ain't worried about that.
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All right, good, good, good.
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By the way, I don't edit anything, so everybody's gonna see all this.
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Uh no.
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I don't edit.
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You okay?
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No, I don't know.
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Okay, we're good.
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We're good.
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We're really at Cousins' house then.
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Listen, my thing is leave the episode as raw and authentic as possible.
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When you start touching things, to me, those are some of the things that people get.
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Yes, that might actually pop and or resonate with somebody.
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The way that it I get we I see that I can't tell you how many, and just we're going on a side note, y'all.
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No tape, we'll take a left, but trust me, coming back.
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We've had people come and record, clients come and record, and then they're like, Oh, can we cut that out?
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And I'm like, Are you sure?
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You I made a mistake.
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Well, let people know you're human.
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Right.
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Let people know.
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Yes.
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I mean, how many, how many sets have we been on?
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How many videos have we done, you know, where it's like, ooh, bad take.
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But we don't, oh well, let me go ahead and delete it.
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You know, we we keep it because you never know.
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Some of that stuff ends up in bloopers, some of that stuff ends up like, man, I remember that.
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Yes.
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You know, you send it out to people.
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But yeah, I don't, I don't edit.
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Absolutely.
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That's uh, yeah, you're right.
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You're right.
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You put it that way.
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You never know what's gonna happen.
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You know, somebody can be watching this and be like, dang, I don't feel so bad.
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Right.
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You know, I was on my podcast and da-da-da-da.
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You know, I mean, it they at least it ain't like I had a guy and his homeboy, he dropped the phone like three times.
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So of course I I say if he dropped that phone one more time, and he's like, You gonna cut that out?
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No.
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Hey, you know who you are, and I'm gonna leave you alone, bro.
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I'm gonna leave you alone, but I still gotta get you up here too.
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But so listen, see, now we're back.
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Yes.
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We back.
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So, Marcus, you you've been an actor.
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You do that's your number one thing.
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You've got production assistant, and now you're bringing up camera op.
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Out of all these things that you do in this creative space, what was the first seed that was planted that got you on your journey?
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Strange, but it was it was 16 years ago.
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I was uh I was off work and it was weird, middle of the week, the kind of days I had to burn.
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And uh an actor that was a commercial actor at the time, and now he's blown up.
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Um but he was in three consecutive commercials.
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I think it was a candy bar commercial, a beer commercial, like a Las Vegas commercial.
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But he was in three consecutive commercials, and I'm sitting there like I can do that.
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Not knowing what all it takes to go into it.
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I was thinking, you know, I well, maybe I could, if I could learn to do it, I could put in the work to do it, but I believe I can do that.
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So that's what I did.
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I got up and I started doing some research.
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The next week I walked into uh Johnny Casablanca's modeling career center down on Tivola, off of Taivola in the business center back there.
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Walked in there and talked to them about what their curriculum was like for uh adult actors.
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Um we had some back and forth.
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They showed me the curriculum, and uh I said, whoo, okay.
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Uh that's a lot.
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Yeah, expecting that.
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Yeah, I wasn't, but uh they said, well, you know, you don't have to pay it all at once.
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I said, All right, well, um I'll invest in myself.
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So I went through the curriculum and uh was finished by I think September, November, actually September 11th, 2010.
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And uh by 2011, I had already started I hit the ground walk running.
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Like I well, my one of my acting teachers actually uh she got me a short film gig, and I started doing short films.
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I did a lot of work for free.
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I still do it.
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Uh did a couple music videos.
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Um, and then the biggest, my next, the biggest thing that I did in 2011 was like the breakout for me, was uh I did stand-in work, which going from nothing to stand in work on a major network was huge for me.
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I stood in for uh a character named Tom Walker on the show Homeland on Showtime.
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And uh the actor's name was Chris Chalk.
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And he's he's I think he's known around here because I think he went to UNCG.
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But uh yeah, I did that, and then being on set was just it blew my mind.
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I mean, it's just it's something that I had imagined, but I couldn't I couldn't imagine the detail.
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It was extremely detailed, the immaculate detail of these sets.
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And the the the studio that they were using had a garage here, a kitchen here.
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And I mean it was and for my scene was uh it was in like the Middle East.
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He'd gotten kidnapped in the Middle East, and they were using the lighting, of course, as a stand-in.
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They prepare for him to come on set.
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So I was there with you know, shirtless, pretending I'm him, getting beat and like tortured.
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Well, you know, the actor tortured.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You know, um, and that experience just I mean, it just took me from here to I I was I was sold.
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It was it became a passion of mine.
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I wanted to dig in and find out more.
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How can I do this more?
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Ended up uh being a featured extra on season finale of season one.
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I went back for season two and did double double time.
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And then uh, I mean, I just kind of kept building, kept building.
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Um, I mean, the next big time the next I did some, of course, free work in between.
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I met Ollie um actually around 2013.
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Um my acting teacher that got me that first gig, she got me that gig as well.
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I was uh lead actor in his mom's music video.
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Um try it again.
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And that also, and we we Ollie and I crossed paths at that time, but we didn't really click like that.
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I mean it was a mutual respect because I was seeing how that family moves.
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It was just like I mean, it was art.
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It is everybody, everybody had a you know, had a thing, a niche or uh something that they were looking at and taking care of.
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And you know, it was it was it was amazing to just sit back and watch and just to be a part of.
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And uh so so loving though.
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Like uh you it's it's hard to find a uh a gig, so to speak, that feels so loving.
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And that's that was what I took away from that that experience.
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Fast forward five years, and I see Ollie doing behind the scenes work on a short film that I'm doing.
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And uh we were doing like a one-take short.
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So it was like uh, I think it was supposed to be seven minutes, so it was like a floating camera.
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We don't we don't cutting anything, so it was gonna be difficult.
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We spent a lot of time doing it, but Ollie was doing the behind the scenes.
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We reconnected in and then locked steps in.
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So I I love how this kid, while in high school, I called him my little brother, and nobody was allowed to bother him, period.
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And to see the man that he has grown to be.
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Yes, you know what I'm saying, and the connections that he's made, the connections that he makes with and for others.
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Absolutely, you know, no gatekeeping and not selfish about all who he knows at all, you know, and I truly do love that about that dude.
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Same, you know, same.
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Like I say, when I say like a brother, yes, there's been times where I even where I felt bad for not feeling like I didn't meet the mark for what I expect to do in working with him, you know, and he's never treated me any differently.
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Even if if I was going through something, he never treated me any differently.
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If anything, he turned up how he cared for me and how he looked out for me, and how he, you know, that's that means so much, that means so much to me.
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So anytime, at any time he asked me to do anything, you know, I'm like, bro, if I can do it, I'm there.
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So I agree.
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I agree.
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So and the good thing about that is we know he won't take advantage of us or the situation.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Right.
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Genuine.
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Yes, very genuine.
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Ollie, this episode is not about you, though.
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It's not, it's not, bro.
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We love you.
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But it ain't about you.
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It ain't about you.
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Had to throw that in there though, because that that is me, the lat the latter part of my career, me meeting Ollie, has transformed my career because it actually brought me he he's the reason I got back into the church.
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Like hey, yeah, working with him, he's the reason I got back into the church.
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And I've been with this church now for seven years, October.
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Um, and I'd been to different churches, but uh had I was kind of at church, not in church, if you know what I mean.
00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:41.359
I know exactly what you mean.
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No, and people don't know how to distinguish the difference.
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Right.
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And not saying that I'm, you know, 100% on everything that I'm you know I'm doing now.
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Right.
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You know, because I'm human.
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But at the same time, it's a it's a vast difference of where I was into where I am now.
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And I'm I I do I'm I'm grateful for working.
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We we worked on a on a film and we're celebrat out celebrating because the film got uh screened uptown at the Knights Gallery and at the booth playhouse in the Blumenthal, and we were out celebrating, and uh and he was asking me about uh about church and um there was uh upstart church and he asked me uh if I wanted to if I could sing and if you know that kind of thing, and then I went and uh met Miss Arneta again and sat down with her and from there, been there since, and she's a blessing.
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Call my spiritual mom, she's important to me so much, seeing things that I didn't see.
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You know, um it's it's it's sometimes I'm I'm speechless when it comes to the love that they show.
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And you know, I'm again, I'm not gonna just keep going on and on and but but I have I have to I have to if I would not I don't I don't feel like I would be where I am or how I am with that part of my career uh and but with part of my faith and everything that aligns how it's starting to align without you know that push from because I was getting don't get me wrong because I come from a church.
00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:27.759
My mom and dad raised me in the church, and uh my mom, there's no one before my mom.
00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:41.599
My mom is the the the similarities between the two are crazy as far as faith, not worldly, like you, you know, the things that we talk about in the world, they have no idea about none.
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And you can tell that they're they're in their Bibles, they're in their bags and they're in their Bibles too.
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You know?
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Yes, you know, but um the push that I get from my that I've gotten from my family to get me to where I can, you know, withstand certain things and how my family has poured into me and told me about the light that I carry and the responsibility that comes with that light.
00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:11.039
Um I think that yeah, there's that there's a lot of people don't talk about that.
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There's a responsibility that comes with that light because when you when you when you have a light to shine and you dim it, there are consequences, and I'm learning, I'm learning that.
00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:57.839
So um I believe that during that period of uh leave not kind of nomading with with church and then my faith aligning with my passion with the career and then meeting Ollie and Miss Arneta and how they it was all you know by grand design that push got me back to where I was supposed to be going, where I was initially pushed to begin with from back home, you know, because it's I'm I'm from small town, South Carolina, Hartsville, South Carolina.
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I love my hometown.
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You're on when I say I love my hometown, my boys in college get tired of me talking about nobody's gonna talk about Hartsville more than not talk about Hartsville, because I'm I'm proud to be from there.
00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:13.920
Um, and there's it's like 7,500 people.
00:21:14.079 --> 00:21:19.119
You put that amount of population in Charlotte, you can put that in probably a hundred times, you know.
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Yeah, give or take.
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So I mean it's it's uh it's special to me to be able to do the things that I'm able to do.
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Um, I'm grateful for the the people that I met, the uh the lives that have impacted mine, and I feel the responsibility to to make sure that I use my gift to impact as well.
00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:46.000
Well, good.
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I tell you what, something that nobody will probably believe, right?
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I've known Ali since we were in high school.
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I graduated in 02.
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I think he graduated in 03.
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All these years I've never met his mom, but I can see how his parents have, you know, stuck with him, you know, encouraged him, raised him right as they say.
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Yes, yes, you know, and it shines.
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It does.
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So yeah.
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It does.
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So Ali, uh, at some point I need to be able to meet uh Mama Arneta.
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Stop playing.
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Bruh.
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You stop playing.
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You know, because I I had a intention of speaking to her, you know, while they were while we were at the premiere, but man, I looked up and everybody was gone.
00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:47.839
Yeah.
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It's like everybody was trying to get to, I knew I had to walk my dog.
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I had to be inside all day, so I had to get home and walk him first, and then go meet everybody at the uh at the after uh dinner thing party.
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And um, but yeah, I think everybody was kind of get out to get trying to get out to do that.
00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:09.759
I think I was halfway home before I realized, wait a minute, I'm supposed to wait and stop.
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I was supposedly been talking to you, Jennifer, Mina, and like two, three, four other people.
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I was like, Yeah, you know, let's get a picture.
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I look around, I said, I guess we ain't taking no pictures.
00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:30.000
I'm glad I got y'all on Instagram because I was waiting because uh hey, we were gone.
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Y'all left me.
00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:32.720
Yeah, we were gone, man.
00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:39.519
Yeah, and I couldn't I couldn't make it to the after party because I thought it was in Charlotte somewhere.
00:23:39.680 --> 00:23:41.279
Oh no, I was in Rock Hill, yeah.
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And I said, It already took me an hour to get here.
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Yeah, we're talking about going to Rock Hill, yeah.
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And I gotta go to work tomorrow.
00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:48.559
Oh no.
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I understand that then.
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So I was like, hey, Ollie, it's not gonna happen.
00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:54.319
It's not gonna happen.
00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:56.480
Oh, it's just we just not.
00:23:57.359 --> 00:23:59.279
But yeah, man.
00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:05.359
So being being here on set, you're used to being in front of the camera.
00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:06.079
Yeah.
00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:10.559
For those that want to become an actor, right?
00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:18.640
Um, those that want to be in front of the camera, period, you know, regardless, because we know some people want to be stunt men.
00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:19.119
Right.
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Not me.
00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:20.640
Right, right, right, nothing.
00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:28.799
You know, what what do you think is something that they instantly need to know before they just jump?
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Uh do some research for what it is that you want to do.
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Make sure that you're prepared.
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Um's you're gonna get a lot of no's.
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Be prepared to do free work.
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That's how you hone your skills.
00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:56.720
Uh, get get be prepared to be paid little, you know, um to be able to build your resume.
00:24:57.279 --> 00:25:05.359
Um I think one of my favorite snippets I've seen is from Don Cheadle.
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Don Cheadle's asking a young man, you know, do you want to be an actor or do you want to be famous?
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Because there's a difference.
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There's a difference.
00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:17.119
You know, being an actor can you can be famous.
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That can be a byproduct of being an actor if you're good at it, you know, or if you know things align, but it's that's not what it's about.
00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:38.400
Being an actor is being able to dive into the art form in a way that you step outside of yourself, you take on a whole different persona.
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:50.880
You study a person, you study a person's uh youth, you study a person's trials, you study you know as much as you can, and you try to emulate that person outside of yourself.
00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:54.240
Otherwise, you're the same person in everything that you do.
00:25:54.880 --> 00:26:00.400
Also, when you're acting, you are a part of a team.
00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:05.599
So when you know how teams work, only you know, you're only you're only as strong as the weakest link.
00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:09.039
You don't want to be that weak link to make a project fail.
00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:18.720
You know, so keep all of that in mind because it's gonna take a lot of selfless behavior, selfless commitment.
00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:46.000
Um, and I think uh there's some misconceptions about all of that, but if you're in it for the right reasons, those misconceptions don't bother you because you understand that a lot of times many people will look at you and they will attach their uh insecurities to you about what they want or what they need or what they or you know, it's just a natural thing.
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:48.160
It's a it's a it's an instinct sometimes.
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So and it's it's it's kind of a road to grace type thing.
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You know, when you realize you start doing some self uh self-healing or self um looking yourself in the mirror for choices that you make, and then you that that grace begins to get be extended to others because you know everybody's out here hurting.
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:17.359
So a lot of things that you hear in the beginning of as an actor, oh as an actor you're selfish, or oh, he's a great actor because he's yes.
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:21.200
I'm an actor because that's what I do, it's not who I am.
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:26.079
Because of what you do, not because of who at who you are.
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:26.880
Yeah.
00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:39.359
Man, I know I said I wanted to get into acting, and I mean I've starred in all of my short films, you know, instead of looking for somebody, trying to get to that point, right?
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:48.799
Um studying, I believe, is the strongest thing, especially when you go out here to do it for somebody else.
00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:53.759
Like, if you wrote it, you should know how to portray it.
00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:54.559
Right.
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:56.000
Should.
00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:01.839
Should if you can't do it, you might need to go find go find somebody.
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:05.039
Hey, we sitting right here, we here, you know.
00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:06.799
Got me, you know.
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:17.200
But I I I've always felt that being in front of the camera was always a lot more work because it looks so easy.
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:25.519
And I know some people kind of feel that way about being behind the camera because we have to constantly check settings.
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:26.079
Yes.
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:29.200
You know, if the sun moves, we have to change something.
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:33.680
If we go from inside to outside, lighting, we gotta change something.
00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:34.240
Yes.
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:43.759
You know, lighting, your your F-stop, your IS, you have to change either something on the camera or something on the set.
00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:44.240
Right.
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:49.119
You know, and that's another place where a team comes into play.
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:54.720
You could be behind the camera like Jennifer and end up in front of the camera.
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:55.279
Right.
00:28:55.519 --> 00:29:00.400
You could be like you in front of the camera and end up behind the camera.
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:01.200
Yes.
00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:06.720
And I've always said just be prepared because you never know.
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:07.279
Absolutely.
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:16.000
Can you speak to your experience of being this camera odd?
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:21.920
Just what was that like knowing that that was something new for you?
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:24.480
I didn't want to mess it up.
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:27.200
That was my main thing.
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:36.559
I didn't want to mess it up because, you know, I it was only a little, you know, it wasn't much, but he trusted me with that.
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:40.720
So and being trusted with something, it, you know, you just don't want to mess.
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:44.880
And it's this is well into filming too.
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:48.640
So it's not like it's the first scene or even the first location.
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.880
I think we was probably we're probably on third, fourth, maybe fifth location by this moment by this time.
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:54.880
Close close to rapping.
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:57.119
But uh, but yeah.
00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:08.319
Oh, yeah, but it was it was it was really, really cool um to be able to because you know, like you said, if anything moves or anything adjusts, you have to adjust with it.
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:10.160
Continuity is huge.
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:21.200
Because you know when you're the finished product, when you see it, if the slightest thing, people may not know anything about acting, but they know things about watching films and watching movies, and if something's off, they'll point it out.
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:27.920
So you gotta be yes, yes, yes, and you'll hear about it.
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:36.880
That's another thing about being an actor or being in the film business that when you're producing films, um, everybody's a critic.
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:43.759
You know, so um whether they are, you know, everybody's a critic, but not every opinion is informed.
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:47.039
We know that, but the everybody's entitled to their own opinion.
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:53.839
Sometimes you will be forced to hear those opinions, you know, and they're fit and they're entitled to them.
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:57.599
So you got to be prepared uh and have tough skin for that as well.
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:06.880
But also, you know, um just making sure you do your best so that uh you kind of stave off some of those uh bad ones, but they're gonna come.
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:11.119
But that that that that uh opportunity for me, it was it was amazing.
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:14.720
I didn't foresee it coming because I was content, not content.
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:17.359
I won't say content, that's a bad word, but I was very happy.
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:18.799
I will say that with being productionist.
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:22.640
I just wanted to be a part of the project because I knew it was gonna be great.
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:24.559
Um yeah, me too.
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:26.480
I knew it was gonna be great.
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:28.559
So I just wanted to be a part of the project.
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:31.839
Um uh on camera, off camera, didn't matter.
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:44.319
You know, I'm I'm when it comes to you know helping out, I'm big team player and I'm gonna be I'm gonna be loud and boisterous about how happy I am because about about the project.
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:46.000
Because if I don't, who will?
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:47.039
You know, right?
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:48.160
If I don't, who will?
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:52.720
I'm I'm involved in in the project and can and contributing to it.
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:54.160
So why wouldn't I be?
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:55.039
Correct.
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:59.119
Like everything that was sent, I'm like, yeah, we're gonna go ahead and share this.
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:00.799
We're gonna go ahead and repost that.
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:01.200
Yes.
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:02.960
I'm gonna say something on here.
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:05.119
Yes, I'm gonna say something on that.
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:06.720
Ollie, it's midnight.
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:08.640
Why are you even posting anything?
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:10.079
Hey, it's okay.
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:12.000
I'll send it out in the morning.
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:16.000
Get up in the morning, bloop, bloop, bloop, add the story, put a little caption to it.
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:19.440
And I got a I got a text.
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:20.319
Wait, what?
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:21.279
What what is this?
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:22.799
Is that Ollie?
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:27.039
And I was like, Yeah, that's that's that's Ollie.
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:32.400
And my cousin, she was like, Wow, y'all did that.
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:33.279
I said, Yeah.
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:35.440
I said, Ollie did it, he just let me be a part.
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:40.799
You know, this is not Ollie, you know, this is you know, you know, I was just here, you know.
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:45.920
But yeah, you you have to say something because think about how many people there are in the world, how many people did not know.
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:46.480
Right.
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:50.799
You know, and the the short film is on Omni Plus.
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:54.400
Yes, yes, we we almost famous.
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:55.519
Almost, you know.
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:57.839
We we almost we there.
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:07.200
We there, you know, and and the weird crazy thing is, you know, even Omni followed me.
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:10.160
Yes, okay, Omni, so Omni's reached out to me as well.
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:21.680
Like that, isn't that that's yes, wow, it's and I'm just like, hmm, I know how to work in front of and behind the camera, yes, more so behind the camera.
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:26.319
But hey, but hey, I'm here, yes, you know, yeah.
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:36.720
So so shout out to Ollie for doing what he did, and you know, keeping this film pushing, you know, reaching out to all of us.
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:44.400
He knew who could help, he knew everybody's strengths and weaknesses, and he played to that.
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:45.119
Yes.
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And I know as a cameraman, camera op, videographer, cinematographer, whatever my title is that day, um, audio engineer, I know how to portray somebody, you know, because I shoot with edit in mind.
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:11.280
So if it's something like an event, I have to sit here and say, hmm, I definitely need this, I definitely need that.
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:13.679
Let's see how everything plays out.
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:21.599
And as I watch and I'm filming, I say, okay, I've recorded 15 clips, 10 of them are dead to me.
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:26.079
I'm not even gonna replay them back because I know I'm not gonna use them.
00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:26.400
Right.
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:30.960
But these five, okay, okay, okay.
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:33.119
Now I'm piecing it together like a puzzle.
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:33.360
Yes.
00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:36.239
And as I'm piecing it, everything is coming together.
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:38.960
And I say, okay, I need this type of music.
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:44.400
I need to get this, I need them to do this, okay.
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:46.239
I'm not gonna be able to find anybody.
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:47.599
Hey, I need you to do me a favor.
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:50.239
All I need you to do is wave at the camera.
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:52.719
I I give you a countdown, you wave.
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:57.440
Or I go to somebody and say, hey, all I need you to do is just make a plate.
00:34:57.599 --> 00:34:58.960
As a matter of fact, why are you here?
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:00.079
Just go ahead and make my plate.
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:01.599
Remember, just record it.
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:05.360
You make my plate, I'm gonna record it, it's gonna go on the video.
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.639
You know, yes, because T B Hover.
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:12.239
So I have to go and find things.
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:22.400
And I and I think that sometimes we get stuck into just this, that we don't think about everything else.
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:23.199
Right.
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:37.440
Knowing that, when you when you have to pivot, what goes through your mind and and like your emotional state when it's like, okay guys, we gotta change X, Y, and Z.
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:47.039
I think that takes place, well, where I am now, experience has taught me to have that perspective going in.
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:56.639
Because before, a lot of times, it's and also being a background actor, that that has taught me to be prepared for whatever.
00:35:56.800 --> 00:36:17.760
Because being a background actor is a running joke of uh what's gonna make and what won't make the cut and what's left on the on the editing floor, whatever you um a lot of background actors do that for fun, and some of them are retired, and that's they just travel and do it, and they really enjoy it.
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:19.119
It's a lot of fun.
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:25.119
Um but a running joke would be hey, you can see my arm in this, or you can see my hand in this.
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:29.679
But a lot of times what will happen, we things will pivot a lot of times on set.
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:38.000
Uh one thing, one time in particular, um it's the first the first season of uh Banshee was shot here.
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:40.800
First and second seasons were shot here in Charlotte.
00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:53.760
And uh, and I think the third episode of the first season, I was a Marine and went for the fitting, got uh got fitted, called the set.
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:56.000
Uh call time was like 5 a.m.
00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:58.800
Got there and I was yeah, I was there at like 4 45.
00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:01.199
I'm standing in front of the wardrobe trailer.
00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:04.480
This is actually pretty pretty pretty funny.
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:17.920
I'm standing in front of the door of the wardrobe trailer, and uh a man comes out of the dark with no shirt on, and he's got all shorts and flip-flops, and I cannot see this man's face.
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:23.039
And he comes around and he puts his arm around me, and I'm like, it's five o'clock in the morning, dog.
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:24.639
Like, you ain't got no shirt on.
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:26.079
I mean, it's dark out here.
00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:28.320
Like, what are you doing?
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:30.800
Who are you or what do you want?
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:37.039
Well, at that time, they were the lighting was was up, but there was the light wasn't at that in that area.
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:40.000
Somebody opened the door to the wardrobe trailer.
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:44.480
He was, and it was uh Frankie Faison, who's an act, famous actor.
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:51.760
He was most notably, he was the superintendent on uh Coming to America, the guy that switched departments.
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:56.480
So he puts his arm around me and he says, Hey baby, man, if I cut in front of you.
00:37:56.559 --> 00:38:00.719
When I realized who he was, I was like, sure, sure, sir.
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:02.559
Yes, go ahead and get your wardrobe.
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:07.840
The pivot came when I got my wardrobe and I sat down and I'm waiting.
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:11.199
Somebody didn't show up for that was a stand-in.
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:16.880
And one of the production assistants was running around going crazy because the person just didn't show.
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:21.119
And he goes, Scott, I need you to do double time.
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:22.880
What's that mean?
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:25.039
All right, I got you.
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:26.239
What is that?
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:27.039
Yeah, what's that mean?
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:28.400
I'll do it, but what's that mean?
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:32.960
He goes, uh, I need you to do be a stand-in and a featured extra.
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:34.320
So you have your wardrobe, right?
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:35.679
I mean, I'm already dressed.
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:37.360
So he's like, Well, what I'm gonna do.
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:45.519
He took a big uh some a big some masking tape, thick kind, and he wrote the character, his name, his character's name was sugar.
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:50.000
So he wrote it on there and put it on on my on my chest here.
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:53.199
So he says, When you're on camera, take it off.
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:58.000
When you're off camera, put it on, because we're gonna need you, you know, both times.
00:38:58.159 --> 00:38:59.679
So I had to I was following Mr.
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:03.760
Faison around for about 14, 15 hours that day offset.
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:11.119
And I mean, it was fun, don't get me wrong, because he's hilarious and uh very wise, dropping nuggets here and there about acting.
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:13.039
I mean, it was a great, great experience.
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:19.199
But that pivot, you know, um, some people would have been like, oh no, no, no, choose somebody else, not me.
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:20.480
Not me.
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:21.519
What do you need me to do?
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:24.400
Yeah, as long as it's not, you know, it's not anything crazy.
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:25.360
I'm I'm in.
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:26.639
Right, right, right.
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:28.480
Yeah, hey, I'm here for it.
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:29.440
Yeah, however.
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:31.360
However, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:37.039
However, it has to be, you know, within the realm of the film, you know what I mean, what we're doing.
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.840
So yeah, yeah, but yeah, um, yeah, well, what's that?
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:41.199
What do you want what do you need me to do?
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:51.119
And and that's and I I think I still I may still have those side the sides that we use, um, you know, it's just that that part of the script um for that day.
00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:53.119
Um, I have it somewhere.
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:55.840
And uh that masking tape, I had it.
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:58.400
I put it on the sides and I saved it for a keepsake.
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:00.960
So yeah, because I was that was gonna be a question I was gonna ask you.
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:05.119
Like when you work on these sets, do you get do you keep anything?
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:08.320
Uh I don't think you're no, I don't think you're supposed to.
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:17.039
Well, what we're gonna do is uh, you know, I had it actually I had it in my I had some dungarees on because I was, you know, the I was a Marine.
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:25.280
So I think I slipped the sides in my side pocket or whatever, not trying to, you know, do it, but when I got in the car that evening, I was like, oh, I still have the sides.
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:26.239
And I still had the tape on.
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:27.360
So I was like, you know what?
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:28.559
Let me just keep this.
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:33.119
And and I had put it up and I kept it all these years and still have it.
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:34.000
Still have it.
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:35.920
But yeah, I mean, it things can pivot.
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:37.679
Things can pivot so fast.
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:42.320
Um, I I had a close-up on Homeland.
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:44.400
I mean, we spent 45 minutes on it.
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:52.079
I mean, it was right before, I won't if for people who haven't seen it, I think it's on uh HBO Max or Prime now.
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:53.199
No, no, it's on Netflix.
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:55.440
It's on Netflix, I think all seasons are on there.
00:40:55.679 --> 00:41:03.360
But um there's a scene, a big scene on the season finale, and just before that season, you know how it's like the quiet before the storm?
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:07.360
I was there with my gun, and I'm looking around.
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And I mean, we we all kinds of lighting, we spent 45 minutes on it, cut it out.
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:13.920
So when I rewatched it, it wasn't there.
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:15.519
I was like, hmm, oh well.
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:33.280
But that's that those things kind of taught me lessons of you know, no matter what it looks like on set, they're looking at those tight angles, the wides, they're looking at those things to piece those together just like you were just saying, and not everything, you know, that's not especially with background, it's not about you at all.
00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:36.000
It's not about you, and that will put you in your place.
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:40.159
If you're thinking you're going as a background actor and it's going to be about you, you're sadly mistaken.
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:41.360
You're sadly mistaken.
00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:47.039
Yeah, go ahead and I feel if that's the case, if that's what you think is gonna happen.
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:49.119
Like, hey, I'm here, background actor.
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:51.199
Make sure you put my name in the credits.
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:53.199
Yeah, go sit down.
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:58.559
I've seen many, many, many people show up that way and they don't make it to the end of the day.
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.400
That's crazy to get kicked off in the middle of filming.
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:03.119
Yes, yes.
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:06.559
So now that means they have to go and cut out everything that you were in.
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:08.639
If you were yes, if you were even in it.
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:09.280
Yeah.
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:12.000
I've heard they had to do that on Wild and Out.
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:12.639
Really?
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:13.119
Yes.
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:23.760
They uh some of the cast they were saying, like, if you come on there and they testing you out, trying you out, everything that you were in, they will completely cut you from the episode.
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:24.159
Yeah.
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:29.039
I haven't I know that it's been done.
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:35.199
I haven't seen a finished product to compare, but yeah, I've seen the finished product to know that they weren't in it.
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:37.920
That's crazy.
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:48.320
So when you when you go on these sets, I think the thing that you know people need to know too is like, listen, you're there to help.
00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:50.880
Regardless of what your role is, you're there to help.
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:51.440
Absolutely.
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:52.079
Part of the team.
00:42:52.320 --> 00:43:01.679
I I think no matter if you're the janitor, background, stand-in, main actor, you can be cut.
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:02.559
Yes.
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:03.760
And replaced.
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:04.239
Yes.
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:05.440
Everybody's replaceable.
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:21.280
I've seen where uh like Jamal the Creator and uh I think his name is Lonnie, Fenarios, you know, they've had to completely redo seasons because things have happened with the main character.
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:34.960
You know, the the female just is like, whatever happened, they're like, you know, hey, we see y'all commenting, asking about what happened, and you know, why does it look like we are redoing the season?
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:37.920
Well, we had to because of X, Y, and Z.
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:38.159
Right.
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:48.880
So think if that's something quote unquote small, they're mostly on YouTube, and um, now they have, you know, more episodes behind a paywall.
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:58.559
But if they are willing to do that on a local yet high standpoint, and I mean they making hundreds of thousands because they know what they're doing.
00:43:58.719 --> 00:43:58.880
Right.
00:43:59.280 --> 00:43:59.760
Big job.
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:03.039
You know, uh all of them.
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:08.239
How at any point you can get cut.
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:12.960
Especially if somebody is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars just on you.
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:17.280
How many actors are like, you know what, we changed our mind?
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:18.639
We're going with somebody else.
00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:19.119
Yes.
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:20.400
You can get cut.
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:22.159
You can get cut at the last second.
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:22.559
Yes.
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:23.360
Yes.
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:31.840
I mean, it's that's that's how quick things pivot, depending on what what they're looking for, and what they're looking for is subject to change.
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:32.559
Yes.
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:35.360
So I mean, it you just kind of have to be prepared for that.
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.079
Um nothing has to really make sense.
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:49.840
Uh, it's definitely not to you if you're working, but I mean, it only needs to make sense to those that are uh foot in the bill and are paid to make sure that it executes the way that those are foot in the bill.
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:51.360
Correct.
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:53.199
It has to make sense to them.
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:57.840
Everything else don't need, just go sit, yeah, stay in your place.
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:00.000
I will say this.
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:12.079
Um it does create a uh a healthy fear because it's like you don't you don't want to be caught lacking to a point where you have to be dismissed.
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:19.440
Uh one experience for me where I was scared.
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:30.400
Uh I was doing background on um uh The Eyes of Tammy Faye like what was that 2019, maybe 2020?
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:32.960
And I was a prison guard.
00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:40.079
Uh same, a similar setup to where I had to go get fitted for my wardrobe prior.
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:52.000
But the day I show up to set and go to wardrobe, they gave me these clunkers, man, like shoes, like the heels were like, and for some reason I could not, the floor that I was walking on was like a linoleum floor.
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:56.960
And I was trying so hard to like walk quietly, but it's just it could not work.
00:45:57.119 --> 00:45:59.679
I was trying to be quiet and walk at the same time.
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:07.199
Well, the director, Michael Show Walter, is sitting in the corner and he goes, I'm like, oh gosh, I'm not.
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:09.679
And I'm because I'm roaming in the scene, it's a prison scene.
00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:12.480
You see the eyes of Tammy Face towards the end.
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:14.960
I'm roaming in the scene.
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:15.920
He calls me over.
00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:18.000
I'm like, oh, he's getting ready to have me sit down.
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:20.559
So I go over, he's like, take the shoes off.
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:27.199
I said, off is that yes, just take them off.
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:28.880
So I took them off.
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:38.079
And in that scene, I'm walking back and forth with socks on, which you only see, like again, you only see my arm because it's back sound.
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:48.320
Yeah, you know, but at the same time, it took out because it was it was very distracting because you dump the dialogue in between as they take breaks in the dialogue, you know.
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:54.079
Uh, and I could tell the actors were getting frustrated with that sound.
00:46:54.159 --> 00:47:01.679
Everybody was, because it was just, and I'm looking, I'm like, I'm trying, I'm trying to be quiet, but that was probably the best thing that could have happened.
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:04.800
But I was I was afraid it was gonna be like, yeah, just go ahead.
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:05.280
Yeah.
00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:06.159
Are you sure?
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:07.360
Yeah, take them things up.
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:08.000
Woo!
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:10.400
Yeah, listen.
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:12.000
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:13.199
Yes, yes.
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:15.519
Well, and you mentioned dialogue.
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:22.480
Dialogue is a very sensitive space when it comes to any film.
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:30.239
I know people only watch certain things for the action, but can't tell you the storyline.
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:30.800
Right.
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:34.480
They can't, they they only follow the action.
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:39.280
And for me, I'd be like, shh.
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:40.880
I want to hear what they're saying.
00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:41.519
I need to hear.
00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:42.159
Yes.
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:48.000
You know, me and Ollie kind of talked about it, but you know, it's like Marvel movies.
00:47:48.239 --> 00:47:54.480
You can watch for the action, but you might not know why they're fighting if you're not listening.
00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:55.199
Right.
00:47:55.679 --> 00:48:02.239
And even with my kids, you cannot walk in the room when we're watching a Marvel movie and be like, hey, what else?
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:03.360
Right.
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:08.239
Like, these aren't movies, aren't your normal like superhero movies?
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:13.039
These movies were they broke the mold when they started this MCU.
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:20.159
They did, because I mean it was great acting, yes, great storytelling, yes, and the action.
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:20.800
Yes.
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:22.960
So and the suspense.
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:24.800
Yes, the cliffhangers.
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:40.320
I love uh I love the uh um I guess practicality, if you will, how people can look at certain things that happen in say, say for instance, in game.
00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:44.239
It wasn't in game, no, it was uh Infinity War.
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:44.880
Yeah.
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:53.360
So it was Infinity War when uh Strange, we said how when he asked him how many times, he's how many futures did he see 14 million?
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:54.719
How many did we win?
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:55.119
One.
00:48:56.880 --> 00:49:07.519
So, you know, years later, it's like it's the joke is oh, so Thanos won 14 million times, and we sat we decided to film the one time that he lost.
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:16.719
Stuff like that is funny when you're following the story, you know, because yeah, of course, it's supposed to be about the superheroes, but if you're looking at it from that from that standpoint, it's actually pretty funny.
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:18.400
It's almost like we're hating on Thanos.
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:24.320
Because we are, we are, and I mean, okay, I'm gonna go here.
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:30.079
When you think about what Thanos is saying, he's got a very good point, bro.
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:34.480
I quoted Thanos on uh on Instagram.
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:36.000
I'm such a nerd.
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:37.280
I it's okay.
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:38.800
We're here, we're here.
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:42.239
I'm such a dort when it comes to comes to the stuff, man.
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:55.920
I quoted Thanos on um on Instagram for a week because there's oh there's a line that he says was like as long as there are people who remember what was, there will always be resistance to change.
00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:59.440
And I mean that's that's profound.
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:00.639
That is profound.
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:08.639
I mean it's they gave Thanos some hard delivering reality statements.
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:10.400
Yes, yes.
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:18.079
Even when he threw Gamora, it's like you had to get rid of something you love, and it's like, oh well, he doesn't love anything.
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:19.679
And then he drops a tear.
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:20.480
Yes.
00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:23.920
And she's laughing, like, oh, you crying, that's funny.
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:26.639
She still didn't get it until she did it.
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:27.440
Right.
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:28.320
Wow.
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:29.760
That's crazy.
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:31.280
We're not gonna go there today.
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:33.599
No, yeah, we're we're not gonna We're not gonna go there today.
00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:38.079
So listen, what uh so you've been doing this 16 years.
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:38.559
Yes.
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:47.840
Over these past 16 years and counting, how has your support system been when it comes to you know being an actor and everything?
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:54.239
Um, it's it's been pretty steady with those that uh really know me.
00:50:54.480 --> 00:51:00.079
Like my family, yeah, uh, my my immediate family, my extended family.
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:06.639
Um, you know, the further out it gets, the kind of uh, you know, not you know, I love my family.
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:08.800
My family's huge though, so I get you gotta give me that.
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:10.639
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:14.239
But yeah, I mean that that's that's the core of my support.
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:18.320
Um, my friends, um I'm learning it.
00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:23.199
This journey has taught me what friends are, what true friends are.
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:39.519
Because true friends, you know, they support you, but they not only support you, they help you in ways they're not necessarily, they may not have to be in a they not may not have to do anything to support you.
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:46.320
Um, you know, I see people all the time, and you it's a it's a common theme on in social media.
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:56.719
I'm I'm blessed to be on um Ollie's board on the Carolina Film Festival on the marketing community, marketing and community, community engagement committee.
00:51:56.880 --> 00:51:57.360
Oh, I think that's a good thing.
00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:01.760
So a lot of a lot of the a lot of social media push, that's where that comes from.
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:11.280
So I'm you know, we're we're pushing out, trying to make sure that people go into the and anything involved with the with the with the film festival, but it's also taught me to market my own things, you know.
00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:20.239
And I see you start to understand algorithms of different, you know, uh the rotations and things of that nature.
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:25.280
Um, I you see the support for people that people don't even know, right?
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:32.639
And it takes nothing to like, it takes nothing to share, it costs you nothing.
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:34.480
Nothing, you know me.
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:42.960
And especially in in ways that like social media platforms where I can see you have looked at it.
00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:47.039
You know, why did you look at it if you're not gonna engage?
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:52.800
Not that you have to, but you know, some people will will do that, some people will refuse to.
00:52:53.119 --> 00:53:08.239
But those again, that those are the teaching you, you know, some people are just monitoring, they're not really supporting you, they're just kind of waiting to see what you're doing next, and you know, right if you're gonna fail, or you know, if it's corny to them, or whatever the case may be.
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:10.639
Again, that goes back to that insecurity thing.
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:12.239
You can't really take it personally.
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:14.320
You get to a point where you don't take it personally.
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:23.760
You see people that look at your stuff every day and never even mention anything about it and pretend as if they don't know what's going on, but they see everything that you do.
00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:37.519
So, yeah, the support system, you'll you will find that you'll get more support from people that don't know you, but really are touched, or what you're doing resonates with what is going on with them in their lives.
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:42.000
And I think that's that's mainly what I pay attention to because that's what I'm that's what I'm here for.
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:43.840
Again, it goes back to my light.
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:46.480
I don't want to dim my light again for anybody.
00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:55.760
And I want to make sure that you know people people are going through things, and it's everybody's going through something.
00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:56.480
Correct.
00:53:56.719 --> 00:54:00.000
And it's okay to feel what you feel, feel it.
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:01.599
Feel it, feel it, feel it.
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:09.119
And if there's something that I've done, a bad choice that I made, uh, anything that you can learn from, that's what I'm here for.
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:19.280
You know, the the the art is just a way of freedom of expression, but it's a vehicle to reach out and touch people without actually having to touch them.
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:21.360
Because true art, that's what it's supposed to do.
00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:23.280
It's supposed to move you without touching you.
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:33.679
You know, there's some people sitting in an audience watching you portray somebody, and they may have an uncle that's going through that exact thing, or a cousin that's going through that exact thing.
00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:38.800
And the way you portray it reminds them and it sits with them, and they may take that away, and it's like, wow.
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:40.960
And it may change something in them.
00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:43.440
That's that's what I chase now.
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:45.440
It's the it's the impact.
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:54.800
And what taught me that is the the the privilege of being able to hone my skill in theater, right?
00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:56.719
Film is film is great.
00:54:56.960 --> 00:55:00.719
Um again, I I like quoting Don Cheeto.
00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:02.880
He's he's an amazing actor.
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:06.960
He says, uh, when he said the are you do you want to be an actor?
00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:07.679
Do you want to be famous?
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:09.519
Then he asks, Are you in theater?
00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:10.880
Are you in anything?
00:55:11.039 --> 00:55:12.880
Or do you, you know, are you in your local theater?
00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:14.079
Denzel says that a lot.
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:15.360
Do you do local theater?
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:20.880
You know, community theater is important because these stories need to be told.
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:28.800
But also, you know, these this is it's also freedom of expression, but it's a way to deliver art to the community.
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:38.719
And it's another vehicle to to show people with art imitating life, everybody goes through things, but that doesn't have to be the end of your story just because you go through it.
00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:48.719
Once you get through to the other side, and what you do with what you've learned is is is really where the the um the reward is, right?
00:55:49.119 --> 00:56:01.599
That that that uh that feeling of somebody coming to you and saying, hey, you know, I really couldn't stand you in the beginning of this this play, but by the end of it, man, I had to come shake your hand.
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:04.960
Something like that lets you know that you're doing things the right way.
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:17.760
But when you have the perspective of, you know, some someone out here may learn from this and not, oh, come see me at this play because, you know, I'm I'm gonna be clean and I'm gonna be sharp and I'm gonna be my wardrobe, and it's not about that.
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:19.360
It's not about that at all.
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:35.840
It's about it's about getting on stage with people that share the same vision with and trying to do your best to betray what the writer has written for your character, but also using it in a way that's ministry.
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:39.920
That is like, you know, this, yeah, these are real stories.
00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:44.559
They may they may be made up, but these scenarios, people, some people, somebody's going through this.
00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:45.119
Yeah.
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:56.320
Somebody's going, somebody's dealing with uh a cheating husband, somebody's uh or wife, somebody's dealing with the loss of a child, somebody's dealing with an alcoholic member or drug addict member.
00:56:56.400 --> 00:56:58.000
Somebody's dealing with that stuff.
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:05.840
And when they may not be thinking about it when they get there, but it'll sit in their spirit when they get there at in at any moment.
00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:07.199
At any moment.
00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:13.039
And if you do it the right way for the right reasons, that message is getting out there, and I feel like it's doing God's work.
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:14.079
I really do.
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:16.079
I agree.
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:26.960
I I feel when you become an actor, your your main thing is not to quote unquote be seen, it's to be felt.
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:27.760
Yes.
00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:36.800
You have to have that emotional piece to you, and it has to sit, regardless if you're the good guy, the bad guy.
00:57:36.960 --> 00:57:44.079
I mean, even though the Joker is bad, Heath Ledger played the mess out of that role.
00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:44.639
Bro.
00:57:45.679 --> 00:58:07.840
I'm trying to tell you, like the bad performance, yes, is is up there with I mean, I even some people think it's it's it's it's bad to compare him to because Jack Nicholas was, I mean, Jack Nicholson was the first and he was he did it so well.
00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:11.280
But this was a totally different, different, different animal with Heath Lake.
00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:13.280
Completely different, completely different.
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:20.400
He was more intellectual, and and although he it was like he didn't plan, but he did.
00:58:21.840 --> 00:58:23.840
He wasn't a thinker, but he was.
00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:30.000
You know, he was he was all of those things, and the things that matter to everybody else didn't matter to him.
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:32.000
Money and didn't matter to him.
00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:38.079
So how do you how do you pinpoint and corner somebody when you don't know what it is that they're going after?
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:42.320
You know, how do you at that that portrayal was amazing?
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:44.800
I watch, I still watch that over and over again.
00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:45.199
Yes.
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:46.320
The dark night.
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:55.679
And then it's like the the scene when they were in the ballroom where he just walked up and he just uh he grabbed the girl and was like, you know, telling the whole story.
00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:58.400
Like, you wanna let me you want to know how I got these scars?
00:58:58.639 --> 00:58:58.960
Yes.
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:00.880
That was not supposed to be in there.
00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:03.280
They just so happened to still be recording.
00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:15.760
So when you hear stuff like that, or Denzel during training day, yes, like the majority of it was just improved because he was actually in character.
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:16.559
Yes.
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:19.280
You know, the Pelican Bay and all of that.
00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:20.400
Yes, all of that.
00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:22.480
I yes, I I heard that too.
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:26.000
You you you pull on people's emotion.
00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:34.559
You know, even when he prayed played Frank Lucas, it's like we know this is a real guy, but we're sitting here like Frank was about his business.
00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:38.480
Yes, he was, and he did all of that, and he got his mama house.
00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:42.559
Yes, and then we have to sit and be like, but he sold drugs.
00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:43.360
Right.
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:45.440
But Denzel pulled.
00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:46.719
He did.
00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:47.679
He pulled.
00:59:47.840 --> 00:59:50.239
He pulled Jamie Foxx.
00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:51.199
Ray.
00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:51.920
Yes.
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:58.960
You watch that movie, you listen to the voice, and you watch the motions that you forget that's Jamie Foxx.
00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:04.079
Because the more he's in character, all you see is Ray.
01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:05.119
Is Ray.
01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:06.800
Period.
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:13.039
And I love being able to see stuff like that, you know.
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:20.800
And and I personally would want to in someday, you know, be in that space.
01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:24.079
But again, I I I like it behind the camera.
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:29.679
Allow me to be the person to capture that magic.
01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:36.000
Because I'll be right now, I'm better at that than, you know, standing in front of the camera.
01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:40.079
Like, I can act, you know, I'm I'm a goofball, I'm a nerd.
01:00:40.159 --> 01:00:40.400
Yeah.
01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:44.480
I can change my voice, you know, do whatever needs to be done.
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:47.840
But allow me to stay behind the camera and I'm okay.
01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:48.159
Right.
01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:58.000
But so, so listen, we we we've been here for a minute, and I've I know you dropped a lot of nuggets, you dropped a lot of knowledge.
01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:07.360
There's a lot of things that has come from this conversation that's gonna have me sitting, you know, thinking and working on some things my per myself personally.
01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:27.280
But with that being said, what seed would you plant for uh other creatives, you know, regardless if they want to be an actor or you know, aspiring from being a cameraman or, you know, camera op or whatever the case may be, what seed would you plant for the next creative?
01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:30.960
Believe in yourself.
01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:35.440
Don't listen to anybody else's vision for you.
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:38.000
If you feel it, go for it.
01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:45.039
And just know that, yeah, in this industry, yeah, there are a lot of no's.
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:48.960
But that makes the yeses even more special.
01:01:49.679 --> 01:01:52.800
Uh it makes those opportunities shine a lot more.
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:55.360
You take them a lot more seriously.
01:01:55.599 --> 01:01:59.519
Um, and you when you look back, the no's don't matter.
01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:05.599
The no's just give you the tough skin to be able to say, you know what, I'm gonna go at it a little bit harder.
01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:09.280
But you know, nobody's gonna have your vision like you have your vision.
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:18.000
My vision wasn't to be like, honestly, when I started out, I was like, you know, I was so shallow when it came to acting initially.
01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:21.199
When I when I initially started, I was like, I'm gonna do a music video.
01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:26.400
Maybe do if I can do a full-length finish with a music video, a short film.
01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:28.000
What does that cover everything?
01:02:28.159 --> 01:02:29.519
Now maybe I can get on stage.
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:32.079
If I can do all of that, maybe I'll call it quits.
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:34.800
I just wanted to cover and check off boxes.
01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:39.679
But then I got I got the itch.
01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:50.719
And I mean, when I when I got it, it made me when I went, I went from here, the depth came from there because it was, I wanted, I needed to know more.
01:02:50.800 --> 01:03:02.719
I needed to know how I could portray someone that is, you know, a bishop and then also a cheating husband.
01:03:03.039 --> 01:03:06.320
You know, I've and I've done I did that last year on stage.
01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:21.280
And a lot of people, I went from I went from a bishop, no, actually, I went from a bishop to a cheating husband, to a pastor, to a street thug that was that was comic relief.
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:27.599
And one of my um let me let me let me let me say this too.
01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:37.440
Charlotte film community, Charlotte theater community, I mean, so embracing.
01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:49.920
Working together, like I can't say enough about the community as a whole, like how we come together, lean on each other, help one another.
01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:56.079
Um, the the people that I've worked with and had the privilege of working with, second to none.
01:03:56.159 --> 01:04:01.679
And I mean, not just in their craft, but as people, like caring.
01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:04.960
That's not guaranteed to happen.
01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:06.719
That's not guaranteed to happen.
01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:09.519
And in this business, there's a lot of cutthroat, you know.
01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:16.079
You could be in today, out tomorrow, and it's it's a phone call, nothing face to face, and and and that's what you can expect.
01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:20.239
But I mean, these people care and support one another.
01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:29.280
When I look out on the stage and I'm on stage and afterwards, and I see people that I've worked with on other product projects, and they're there and they're coming, hey, I came to support you.
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:31.280
That means the world to me.
01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:32.719
You didn't have to do that.
01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:34.400
I'm sure you had other stuff to do.
01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:40.559
It's a Saturday, but you could have been anywhere else in the world, but you're here.
01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:43.119
You know, um, my church family.
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:46.159
I have to shout them out too, man.
01:04:46.239 --> 01:04:53.679
Like they came to see me and and still will come see me and asking constantly about what I'm what I'm doing.
01:04:54.000 --> 01:05:00.960
And when I say support, they pray, they don't pry, they pray, and they support me.
01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:05.599
You know, um, it's it's amazing.
01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:12.960
Um it's really helped my alignment and my my faith walk, my my career.
01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:14.639
All of this is it is intertwined.
01:05:14.719 --> 01:05:16.079
It all goes together.
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:18.239
But yeah, um, back to your question.
01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:22.719
Sorry, I'm I had to had to give a shout out to film and in theater community.
01:05:22.800 --> 01:05:23.360
Oh no, you're good.
01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:24.559
That's my family, man.
01:05:24.639 --> 01:05:26.239
You know, I mean it just people need to know.
01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:26.639
Yes.
01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:30.800
I mean, it's it's it's what you walk into, you know, and and it's also what you make of it, too.
01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:32.000
It's also what you make of it.
01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:41.039
You know, if you're uh if you if you if you're not pouring into other people, they're not gonna pour into you.
01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:48.000
And uh and you're not doing what you're supposed to be doing, then you know, they're not gonna wanna pour into you, you know.
01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:54.159
But uh, but yeah, I mean this this whole experience has been such a blessing.
01:05:54.400 --> 01:05:55.360
Such a blessing.
01:05:55.440 --> 01:05:59.440
And I look forward to the next 16, however many years.
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:05.440
Acting is a is a is a is a career that you can do it until you're 80 if you want.
01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:10.559
And if I'm in community theater until I'm 80, if out that's what I want to do, then that's what I'm gonna do.
01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:17.760
You know, if I still, you know, if I'm still touching lives and I feel like, you know, that's where God wants me to be, that's where I'm gonna be.
01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:19.280
Because that's what's important.
01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:19.920
Yes.
01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:23.119
It's not about the the the awards and stuff.
01:06:23.199 --> 01:06:23.760
That's great.
01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:24.880
That's great nominations.
01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:25.360
That's great.
01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:25.920
It's great.
01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:35.440
Don't I'm not I'm not downplaying it because I think it's important for people to feel uh that they're recognized by their peers for the work that they put in.
01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:36.159
Yeah.
01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:38.239
You know, that's I think that's important.
01:06:38.800 --> 01:06:42.400
But we don't want to miss what's really important.
01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:51.679
You know, that the art form is there for a reason, and that reason is not just for awards and galas and and things of that nature.
01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:52.480
It's not for that.
01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:57.199
That's that those are byproducts for you to have fun, you know, when you're when you're not working.
01:06:57.519 --> 01:07:03.199
But when you're using the art form correctly, you're touching lives, you're making impact.
01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:06.159
And that's what I've enjoyed doing.
01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:11.519
Um, some of the stuff that I've done, I've had to actually lean on in my own life.
01:07:12.159 --> 01:07:15.440
You know, so I know if I had to do it, and I'm out here doing it.
01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:22.719
Just imagine what the people that are out here that love theater, that love film, that are watching these things over, you know, that spend their time and spend their money doing it.
01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:25.840
Just imagine what they're catching, along with watching, you know.
01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:34.960
So yeah, yeah, I would tell anybody be prepared to to to uh have naysayers, have people that just don't get it.
01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:36.880
They're gonna misunderstand you.
01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:46.159
They're gonna think you don't have vision, they're gonna think you're, you know, um shallow and whatever, because they don't understand what it takes for you to do what you have to do.
01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:48.480
But they're not supposed to because they don't have your vision.
01:07:48.719 --> 01:07:49.519
Correct.
01:07:49.760 --> 01:08:10.480
And I've said multiple times, people view your stance, people view you based on their stance and their thought patterns, their emotions, their wallet, whatever it is with their, you know, you can instantly tell when people like, oh, you better than me, or ooh, I just couldn't do that.
01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:10.880
Right.
01:08:11.039 --> 01:08:18.159
You know, when you hear those things, that lets you know where their mind is uh concerning at minimum that one thing.
01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:18.640
Right.
01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:26.560
You know, if you were to be like, hey man, I'm about to go out here and I'm about to be the next Denzel, I'm like, I bet what you need me to help you with.
01:08:26.720 --> 01:08:27.039
Right.
01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:33.199
You know, that's I started I started a uh TikTok profile in 2023.
01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:34.880
I was late to the game.
01:08:35.119 --> 01:08:35.920
Don't feel bad.
01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:37.279
I made mine last year.
01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:45.279
And I one of the first things I did on I put on there, and it's still on there, it says collaboration over competition.
01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:50.560
I've if more people thought that way, we say that here too, Billy.
01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:55.119
If more people thought that way, man, we we there would be so much more work for people.
01:08:55.439 --> 01:09:10.880
But there some people get in their ways and they get, you know, there's jealousy and resentment because they're looking through a lens of competition versus a lens of collaboration where you know, if if I can help you get there, it don't matter what I did.
01:09:11.039 --> 01:09:13.920
Me seeing you get there is everything for me.
01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:20.000
Because if if I want, if knowing that I want to see, I mean, that means you've impacted me in some kind of way.
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:22.800
That I that I that I'm gonna take my time to do it.
01:09:22.960 --> 01:09:26.720
And if that if it's that important to me, then yeah, why, why, why the competition?
01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:27.359
I don't know.
01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:32.000
But that that's also a level of emotional intelligence or or maturity.
01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:38.560
Yeah, because I mean, even when it comes to eight ball, I didn't expect to be the colorist.
01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:39.680
I did it.
01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:40.239
Right.
01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:47.279
You know, I was just I just thought I was there to help Ollie through the editing and make sure he was good.
01:09:47.439 --> 01:09:50.239
And he was like, hey man, I talked to him and Thor.
01:09:50.399 --> 01:09:54.159
Thor was like, hey man, I'm not gonna be able to have the time.
01:09:54.399 --> 01:09:54.640
Wow.
01:09:54.720 --> 01:09:57.199
Because yeah, because he was working on a big project project himself.
01:09:57.439 --> 01:09:57.920
Yes.
01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:03.359
So I was like, all right, send it to me.
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:09.520
You know, and you know, even in that process, it's just man, I'm here to support my brother, man.
01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:09.920
Yes.
01:10:10.479 --> 01:10:11.920
Yes, I got you, man.
01:10:12.079 --> 01:10:12.399
Yes.
01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:15.279
And he's like, man, I appreciate it.
01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:16.720
I'm like, dude, come on.
01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:20.319
You know, you you you should have expected me to say yes.
01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:20.720
Right.
01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:30.720
You know, but there there was Thor could have easily said, no, I got it, and tried to figure out how he was gonna work on two, three projects at the same time.
01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:31.199
Right.
01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:36.560
And that's but that's also that's Thor's, I'm sure that's his experience.
01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:38.159
I learned that the hard way myself.
01:10:38.319 --> 01:10:41.600
Taking on too many projects at once and then stumbling across the finish line.
01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:42.880
That's not something that you want to do.
01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:46.239
You know, and and being able to say when it when enough is enough.
01:10:46.479 --> 01:10:59.600
Uh, yeah, hard lesson I learned last year, but it's uh it's a lesson that I'll take with me because it's it's uh and I'm I'm I'm glad that that happened because it also opened the offer uh opened the door for you.
01:10:59.760 --> 01:11:00.720
You know what I'm saying?
01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:03.840
That I mean that that was by design, I'm sure.
01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:09.840
But you having that being open to not even having any ego, you know, that that's the important part, man.
01:11:09.920 --> 01:11:11.520
That that's that's what I love.
01:11:11.680 --> 01:11:18.560
When you take the ego out, take the ego out when you're working, there's so much more that you can accomplish.
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:18.880
Yeah.
01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:25.039
Because now you're you're you're looking at opportunities versus okay, what it what is it in it for me?
01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:25.680
Yeah.
01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:38.239
You know, when you're looking at opportunities for the entire project to grow or to to pop, or whatever it is that you needed to do as a team, instead of being in your little pigeonhole and your little thinking about me, me, me, me, me.
01:11:38.399 --> 01:11:39.840
A lot of people, they get that way.
01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:43.920
You know, I don't a lot of inexperienced people, I say that.
01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:44.159
Yeah.
01:11:44.399 --> 01:11:54.800
Because I think if you're in this business for long enough and you have enough experience, you will you will see uh number one that it's not about you, regardless of what you do.
01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:56.000
It's not about you.
01:11:56.079 --> 01:12:00.479
It's about the project and what we do to push the project forward and push it across the finish line.
01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:00.800
Right.
01:12:01.039 --> 01:12:03.920
And the best product that we can that we can present.
01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:06.640
Um, so yeah, man.
01:12:06.880 --> 01:12:14.800
Um I'm um I'm elated that we were able to work on a project together, even though we didn't really have to interact.
01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:15.439
Right.
01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:19.760
Right though, but I'm being the one that sat at the house like and can't make it.
01:12:19.920 --> 01:12:21.359
Ollie, bruh, I can't make it.
01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:23.119
I'll live in Albemarle.
01:12:23.279 --> 01:12:25.439
I can't what what time, bruh?
01:12:25.600 --> 01:12:27.119
I I can't make it.
01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:34.479
And I'm like, I I hate having to keep saying I can't make it, but I truly can't make it.
01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:34.960
Right.
01:12:35.119 --> 01:12:43.359
You know, and and even when he he sent the film and I watched it, I was like, okay, wait, wait, wait.
01:12:43.439 --> 01:12:46.079
I'm supposed to be doing something besides watching it.
01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:47.279
You know what I'm saying?
01:12:47.439 --> 01:12:51.039
So I had this, I I had, okay, let me go take a break.
01:12:51.199 --> 01:12:52.159
I'll come back.
01:12:52.399 --> 01:13:00.000
And then I'm listening to, I say, I say, hey, bruh, um, you got somebody doing the audio for this?
01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:01.680
Like, is somebody mixing?
01:13:01.840 --> 01:13:04.640
He's like, uh, no.
01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:07.439
Uh I was gonna try to do it.
01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:11.359
I say, do you have speakers and stuff to do it?
01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:16.239
He's like, uh no.
01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:22.239
But uh, I say, hey, I say, I'm sitting here, it's done.
01:13:22.960 --> 01:13:27.840
I see a little something I'm just gonna tweak real quick.
01:13:28.880 --> 01:13:30.479
I'm gonna color it.
01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:33.680
Then I'm gonna work on this audio.
01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:38.479
I say, because me sitting here, I already hear what needs to be done.
01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:42.079
And he's like, oh, okay, bro, hey man, I appreciate it, man.
01:13:42.159 --> 01:13:43.680
Hey man, hey man, thanks a lot.
01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:44.640
Hey, thank you.
01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:45.279
Thank you, man.
01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:47.680
And I was just like, whatever.
01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:48.479
Nothing.
01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:49.680
Nothing.
01:13:50.159 --> 01:13:55.199
You know, but again, he could have sent that to somebody else.
01:13:55.439 --> 01:14:02.239
True, true, you know, and and I had I had sat with that thing, I did it, and I waited.
01:14:02.399 --> 01:14:06.159
I said I need fresh ears, and I listened the next day.
01:14:07.039 --> 01:14:09.039
Let me go ahead and send this to Ollie.
01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:14.000
He comes like, dude, man.
01:14:14.720 --> 01:14:15.039
Yes.
01:14:15.199 --> 01:14:15.920
I say, yeah.
01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:17.119
Yes, yes.
01:14:17.359 --> 01:14:24.479
And me being the also humble person that I've always been, I'm just like, you welcome.
01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:24.960
Bro.
01:14:25.520 --> 01:14:29.439
I've been taught I have an issue with accepting compliments and things like that.
01:14:29.520 --> 01:14:33.359
So if you ever give me one, I'm just like, Yeah, thank you.
01:14:33.760 --> 01:14:39.520
Yeah, I mean, I'm going to give you a compliment, brother.
01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:48.880
And let me tell you, along the way, I'm telling you, along the way, uh, was fortunate enough to be privy to to some of the clips along the way.
01:14:49.119 --> 01:14:52.640
And yeah, man, I'm I was blown away.
01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:58.319
I don't know the details of and how all of that is developed.
01:14:58.399 --> 01:14:58.720
I don't.
01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:04.960
I'm not I'm not at that experience, but I know good work when I hear it, I know good work when I see it.
01:15:05.119 --> 01:15:07.279
I've seen enough bad work to know.
01:15:07.600 --> 01:15:09.439
I think most of us have.
01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:11.039
You know.
01:15:11.439 --> 01:15:21.439
You know, so when I as this as these these days are and and pieces are being pieced together and it's coming together, I'm like, wow.
01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:27.520
I mean, it's there's so many different pieces with sound.
01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:37.439
Uh some of the some of the shots, some of the uh, some of the way, some of the lighting, some of the some of the oh, the drone shots.
01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:38.640
My goodness.
01:15:38.880 --> 01:15:40.399
I mean, Rocky killed it.
01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:42.319
Yeah Rocky killed it.
01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:57.760
Um I happened to be, I was on set one day uh with uh the at the park and watching him, I mean it was dude, it was it was crazy.
01:15:57.840 --> 01:16:05.119
I'm sure that if I sat down and watched how you because I'm because just like you were just explaining it, how you were hearing and piece, that comes from experience.
01:16:05.279 --> 01:16:11.439
I bet sitting down and looking over your shoulder as a shadow, I bet it would be just like a symphony.
01:16:11.680 --> 01:16:15.359
Like that's how I felt with watching Rocky with the with, I'm sure.
01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:19.680
That all came together the way that it did by design.
01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:24.000
And I'm so I'm so stoked about this, this, this project, man.
01:16:24.079 --> 01:16:31.359
I mean, I've I've seen multiple, I'm I'm excited to see what may come of a second one.
01:16:32.239 --> 01:16:39.199
Yeah, I I I pitched something to I said, hey, you need to check this out today.
01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:43.279
And he's like, But I didn't even know about this, man.
01:16:43.439 --> 01:16:44.960
Hey, I appreciate that.
01:16:45.439 --> 01:16:46.880
Yeah, man, I appreciate that.
01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:47.600
I said, Yeah.
01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:51.920
I said, now I appreciate signing up and snowing too.
01:16:52.560 --> 01:16:54.720
People are waiting on either part two.
01:16:55.039 --> 01:16:56.159
I'm not gonna say on camera.
01:16:56.239 --> 01:16:57.039
I'll tell you when we get off.
01:16:57.279 --> 01:16:57.680
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:16:58.239 --> 01:16:59.199
I think I know what you're talking about.
01:16:59.279 --> 01:16:59.760
So yeah, yeah.
01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:00.720
I'm just gonna have to hold on.
01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:00.960
Yeah, yeah.
01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:09.760
Hey, hey, which reminds me, I I I want to get Ollie up here too, because I want to have him talk about it.
01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:10.079
Yes.
01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:13.760
Last time he was here, we were talking about starting it.
01:17:14.079 --> 01:17:14.560
Right.
01:17:15.039 --> 01:17:16.159
So, yes.
01:17:17.279 --> 01:17:18.000
Ollie.
01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:19.039
Yes, sir.
01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:22.079
I'm probably gonna call you before this episode comes out anyway.
01:17:22.479 --> 01:17:25.600
But yeah, hey, we we gotta get the ball rolling.
01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:31.520
Um tell the people where they can find you and your work.
01:17:32.159 --> 01:17:35.600
Okay, you can find me on uh social media.
01:17:35.840 --> 01:17:37.920
Facebook is Marcus Scott.
01:17:38.319 --> 01:17:41.920
Um Instagram is the official Marcus Scott.
01:17:42.079 --> 01:17:47.920
It sounds corny, I know, but I had my my Facebook was Marcus T.
01:17:48.079 --> 01:17:49.920
Scott, and then somebody hacked it.
01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:52.560
So then I had to go through the whole verification pro.
01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:54.319
I still haven't gotten that profile back.
01:17:54.399 --> 01:17:59.039
So I had to make an official, and there's so many Marcus Scott, there's a lot of Marcus Scott's out there on social media.
01:17:59.199 --> 01:18:04.640
So the official Marcus Scott on uh on Instagram, uh I put a lot of my work out there.
01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:12.239
Um if you get tired of seeing a lot of the marketing, I'm sorry, but I'm I am I try to I do try to stay busy.
01:18:12.479 --> 01:18:15.039
Um, and because it's it's a passion of mine, and I love it.
01:18:15.119 --> 01:18:16.560
I'm not gonna apologize for that.
01:18:16.800 --> 01:18:19.439
Uh, but yeah, um Heartsville, I love you.
01:18:19.600 --> 01:18:20.640
Wingate, I love you.
01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:24.239
Uh just wanted to down Wingate University, boy, play football there.
01:18:24.319 --> 01:18:25.199
That's my heart.
01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:28.319
Um and Mom and Dad, I love you.
01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:30.319
And my brother, T Scott.
01:18:31.199 --> 01:18:33.680
Yeah, just wanted to get those shout-outs before I was done.
01:18:33.840 --> 01:18:35.520
Hey man, no problem, man.
01:18:35.760 --> 01:18:40.399
So listen, this is this is the space where Oh, Lola, one more thing, one more thing.
01:18:40.720 --> 01:18:42.640
Mila, Reed.
01:18:44.399 --> 01:18:46.319
Best things I've ever done.
01:18:49.039 --> 01:18:50.159
This is my daughter's.
01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:50.640
Okay.
01:18:50.800 --> 01:18:50.960
Yes.
01:18:51.119 --> 01:18:52.159
I figured it was the keys.
01:18:52.399 --> 01:18:53.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:18:53.199 --> 01:18:58.159
I didn't think they'd, well, Reed would probably be, but Mila probably won't be watching, but she'll probably watch now.
01:18:58.720 --> 01:18:59.039
Yeah.
01:18:59.520 --> 01:19:00.479
She's gonna watch now.
01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:01.199
Yeah, yeah.
01:19:02.560 --> 01:19:11.119
So this is the part of the episode where I open the floor for you to ask me a question, make a statement, give advice, whatever, whatever.
01:19:11.439 --> 01:19:13.600
So it's on you.
01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:28.079
Uh what do what is your what drove you to take this route of wanting to know more and interviewing creatives?
01:19:28.319 --> 01:19:34.800
Um, I know it's it's the I saw I've every once in a while I stumble upon and I and I'll watch.
01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:37.439
But what what started that for you?
01:19:38.640 --> 01:19:55.920
You remember growing up watching Lifestyle of the Rich and Famous and Yo M TV Cribs and Pent My Rod, and you know, you you see all these people that are already here.
01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:01.680
I used to always ask the question of how did they get there?
01:20:03.920 --> 01:20:10.720
All you know is Ja Rule drops Holla, Holla, right, and it's like, where did this dude come from?
01:20:11.359 --> 01:20:13.600
DMX drops the Rough Rider album.
01:20:13.840 --> 01:20:15.600
Where did this dude come from?
01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:19.600
You know, Grandmaster Flash.
01:20:19.840 --> 01:20:30.000
You know, we we we see people, dang, Pulp Fiction, and this is the first time the majority of us see um Samuel L.
01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:31.039
Jackson.
01:20:32.399 --> 01:20:33.520
How he get here?
01:20:33.760 --> 01:20:34.000
Right.
01:20:34.239 --> 01:20:36.479
And how long has he been in this industry?
01:20:36.720 --> 01:20:39.920
Because I don't remember him from XY and Z.
01:20:41.279 --> 01:20:44.560
Spike Lee got how many films by the time I'm 10?
01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:45.199
That's right.
01:20:45.359 --> 01:20:46.000
Hmm.
01:20:46.479 --> 01:20:47.680
What did he do?
01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:49.359
How did he get there?
01:20:50.159 --> 01:21:12.079
Which reminds me, if I had the moment, if I could just have a day to sit with Spike Lee, and if I could have a day to sit with Robert Townsend, oh, and if I could have a day to sit with Ken and Ivory Wayne, or any of the anybody in the Wands family, period.
01:21:12.399 --> 01:21:13.199
Yes, yes.
01:21:13.439 --> 01:21:24.640
Do you not know that will be the pinnacle of me being super excited without fanboying and ruining the moment for myself?
01:21:24.960 --> 01:21:25.439
Right.
01:21:25.760 --> 01:21:30.640
Because these are some people that have made some genuine classics.
01:21:30.880 --> 01:21:31.439
Yes.
01:21:31.760 --> 01:21:33.760
Hollywood shuffle on how much money?
01:21:34.159 --> 01:21:36.239
How many credit cards did Robert Johnson use?
01:21:36.560 --> 01:21:37.199
Dude.
01:21:37.760 --> 01:21:40.319
And Keenan Ivory Williams was a part of that too, right?
01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:48.239
He was so it's that the way that they worked, collaboration over competition, yes, could have easily had been ego, egotistical.
01:21:48.640 --> 01:21:55.439
Very yeah, small and the the the industry wasn't as opportunistic as it as it is now back then.
01:21:55.600 --> 01:21:56.079
Correct.
01:21:56.319 --> 01:22:02.960
So I mean, yeah, I mean that that's they've they've laid such a foundation.
01:22:03.119 --> 01:22:03.439
Yes.
01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:07.119
And they have to be able to pick their brains, I could definitely see that, brother.
01:22:07.199 --> 01:22:09.439
I would wish I would be wanting to be right there with you.
01:22:09.680 --> 01:22:10.319
Yes.
01:22:12.239 --> 01:22:16.640
But it's like that that's how I created this.
01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:22.159
You know, we we had a podcast, Charlotte Podcast Studios Podcast.
01:22:22.399 --> 01:22:26.640
We teach you everything about starting a podcast with the things that you need, the things that you don't need.
01:22:26.720 --> 01:22:31.439
We go over statistics, we teach you how to do this.
01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:33.520
But if you don't want to do it, come come here.
01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:35.439
We'll we'll do it all for you, right?
01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:40.640
We teach you, we have coaching classes, you know, breakout sessions.
01:22:40.800 --> 01:22:46.640
We we're here to teach you, you know, but I don't want to talk about that.
01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:48.239
I don't want to talk about that.
01:22:48.399 --> 01:22:49.600
I want to talk to people.
01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:51.760
I want genuine conversation, right?
01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:55.840
You know, because I tell people, these are conversations, these are not interviews, you're not applying for a job.
01:22:56.000 --> 01:22:56.319
Right.
01:22:56.560 --> 01:22:58.479
You know, let's have a conversation.
01:22:58.800 --> 01:23:04.479
So you take, well, we can't be a podcast studio and not have a podcast.
01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:05.119
Right.
01:23:05.680 --> 01:23:09.279
On top of how did they get there?
01:23:10.159 --> 01:23:11.680
How did the baby get where he was?
01:23:11.760 --> 01:23:12.640
And he's local.
01:23:12.800 --> 01:23:15.760
And I've been doing all the I've been rapping for forever.
01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:18.079
I know people that have been rapping since forever.
01:23:18.239 --> 01:23:19.119
How did he get there?
01:23:19.359 --> 01:23:22.399
Okay, let me just sit down with some of these people.
01:23:23.840 --> 01:23:27.680
People, well, do you interview celebrities?
01:23:27.920 --> 01:23:31.840
Everybody that has sat on this couch is a celebrity.
01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:33.600
I don't care what you do.
01:23:34.239 --> 01:23:41.760
Well, have you ever thought about taking it and interviewing people like uh Denzel or a Robert Townsend?
01:23:41.920 --> 01:23:42.560
Yes.
01:23:43.039 --> 01:23:44.239
Yes, I do.
01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:46.880
But right now that's not what my aim is.
01:23:47.039 --> 01:23:47.520
Right.
01:23:47.840 --> 01:23:52.399
There are too many people here locally that need to connect.
01:23:52.720 --> 01:23:53.279
Absolutely.
01:23:53.600 --> 01:23:59.359
Me and Tacora sat, and we talked about the loop, 485.
01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:05.279
How long does it take you to go around 485, start to end, the whole circle, right?
01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:18.239
And how many businesses are off of each exit where as a videographer, there could be a there are over a hundred videographers within just this circle.
01:24:18.479 --> 01:24:26.800
How many businesses are off of each exit to where we don't, you know, bump heads or feel like we have to compete with each other?
01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:27.840
You know what I'm saying?
01:24:28.079 --> 01:24:38.239
So it's why not sit with us locally to the point where I even have a lady that reached out from the UK.
01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:39.359
Wow.
01:24:39.600 --> 01:24:44.960
Uh I interviewed a lady that's all the way out in Oregon or Washington State, if I I think Portland, Oregon.
01:24:45.039 --> 01:24:46.239
So she's in Oregon.
01:24:46.399 --> 01:24:47.039
Wow.
01:24:47.359 --> 01:24:51.680
You know, uh virtual calls with people in New York.
01:24:51.840 --> 01:25:00.960
A guy comes down from Pennsylvania, you know what I'm saying, to tap into this local market to educate not just us here, but the world.
01:25:01.279 --> 01:25:05.520
I have people, we have people that watch across seas.
01:25:05.840 --> 01:25:06.319
Wow.
01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:07.520
You know what I'm saying?
01:25:07.680 --> 01:25:11.520
To see that you have downloads in like India.
01:25:12.079 --> 01:25:14.640
That's hurricane, things like that.
01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:16.000
You know what I'm saying?
01:25:16.239 --> 01:25:22.479
But the the goal has always been, how did you start?
01:25:22.960 --> 01:25:26.800
Well, we sit with creatives and talk about their journey from the beginning.
01:25:28.159 --> 01:25:29.520
That's what we're here for.
01:25:29.680 --> 01:25:35.680
That's how I got into this because I at some point somebody's gonna ask me, Well, where did you how did you start?
01:25:36.159 --> 01:25:38.319
When was the first time you picked up a camera?
01:25:38.560 --> 01:25:40.159
How did you get to this place?
01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:48.479
And then the other thing is I want other people to know that to me, nobody is too big to ask, where did you start?
01:25:48.720 --> 01:25:49.840
How did you get here?
01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:50.159
Right.
01:25:50.399 --> 01:25:54.399
Nobody is too small to ask, oh, I haven't done anything in five, ten years.
01:25:54.479 --> 01:25:55.039
I don't care.
01:25:55.119 --> 01:25:56.319
You have a story.
01:25:56.479 --> 01:25:56.800
Right.
01:25:57.359 --> 01:26:01.439
And it's a very passionate thing for me.
01:26:01.520 --> 01:26:04.640
And and I because I feel like I'm I'm sounding like I'm fussing, but I'm not.
01:26:04.720 --> 01:26:04.800
No.
01:26:05.039 --> 01:26:05.680
You know what I'm saying?
01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:07.760
But it's like, where do we come from?
01:26:08.079 --> 01:26:09.439
What do we do?
01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:12.720
Everybody has a different story, everybody's from a different place.
01:26:12.880 --> 01:26:20.479
Like we I sat with maybe eight people straight that talked about this came from a mental health thing.
01:26:20.800 --> 01:26:28.079
To the point where in January, one of my high school classmates is a therapist, hey girl, shout out to Natasha.
01:26:28.319 --> 01:26:32.319
You know, she's been here twice already, and we're already talking about a third episode.
01:26:32.560 --> 01:26:33.119
Wow.
01:26:33.439 --> 01:26:39.439
Because the majority of us creatives, we had something happen to us.
01:26:39.760 --> 01:26:40.960
But what happened?
01:26:41.279 --> 01:26:49.680
Because you being molested, neglected, uh, you know, you've been on your own since the age of eight.
01:26:49.840 --> 01:26:57.520
You know, living out of my car, you know, going through the things that I went through, and you know, so many other people have gone through.
01:26:57.680 --> 01:27:04.399
There could be somebody else out there watching this right now, going through the same thing like you spoke to.
01:27:04.560 --> 01:27:10.079
We're not, in that sense, we're not here to pull on an emotional draw, but it's there.
01:27:10.319 --> 01:27:10.880
Right.
01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:15.119
So I'm here to let people know we all have a story.
01:27:15.279 --> 01:27:15.760
Yes.
01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:17.359
Everybody's got a story.
01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:17.920
Yes.
01:27:18.159 --> 01:27:19.359
Tell your story.
01:27:19.600 --> 01:27:20.720
I love it.
01:27:20.960 --> 01:27:21.920
I love it.
01:27:22.800 --> 01:27:23.439
I love it.
01:27:23.520 --> 01:27:25.039
You're right, and you're absolutely right.
01:27:25.199 --> 01:27:30.000
That's that's I feel like that's what we're here for.
01:27:30.239 --> 01:27:30.560
You know?
01:27:30.960 --> 01:27:34.159
Because I mean, loving on each other is understanding each other.
01:27:34.239 --> 01:27:36.399
We can't understand each other if we don't listen.
01:27:36.640 --> 01:27:39.439
And everybody has a story to be told, you know.
01:27:39.680 --> 01:27:43.600
So, man, that's that's that's great work, brother.
01:27:43.840 --> 01:27:50.479
Hey man, listen, we we are expanding the community one week at a time, one person at a time.
01:27:51.279 --> 01:27:55.760
I I think we are finally over 200 subs on YouTube.
01:27:56.159 --> 01:27:59.760
I think we're close to 300 followers on Instagram.
01:28:00.800 --> 01:28:02.960
I have not posted on TikTok in a while.
01:28:03.119 --> 01:28:08.159
I know what I need to do to get, you know, things rolling numbers-wise.
01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:10.560
But my thing is this too.
01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:13.520
I want people in the seat, not just watching.
01:28:13.680 --> 01:28:14.159
Right.
01:28:14.319 --> 01:28:20.800
And how many of y'all are creatives that are watching this episode or have watched any episode or just watch the clips?
01:28:20.880 --> 01:28:26.079
It's like, I can't be on that podcast because that's too polished.
01:28:26.159 --> 01:28:28.159
That's too quote unquote big.
01:28:28.399 --> 01:28:33.760
Listen, this lady Sherry said the same thing.
01:28:34.239 --> 01:28:38.399
She has one of the highest watched episodes.
01:28:38.720 --> 01:28:40.640
And that episode is two hours.
01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:41.600
Wow.
01:28:42.640 --> 01:28:43.279
Wow.
01:28:44.479 --> 01:28:48.800
And she thought she was only gonna come up here for a 20, 30 minute episode.
01:28:49.439 --> 01:28:51.359
That episode preaches.
01:28:51.760 --> 01:28:56.239
The episode speaks to the mind, it speaks to the heart, it speaks to the soul.
01:28:56.560 --> 01:28:57.119
Wow.
01:28:57.359 --> 01:29:05.600
She came over here to talk about broach ties for women, and everything was broached and tied together in that episode.
01:29:06.720 --> 01:29:07.359
Wow.
01:29:08.239 --> 01:29:09.359
You never know.
01:29:09.600 --> 01:29:10.319
You're right.
01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:11.600
You're absolutely right.
01:29:11.760 --> 01:29:12.560
You never know.
01:29:12.720 --> 01:29:14.159
The community is growing.
01:29:14.239 --> 01:29:23.920
I'm I'm working on some things like I tell people I see this being held in a conference type setting.
01:29:24.239 --> 01:29:24.960
What's the thing?
01:29:25.119 --> 01:29:26.239
Tonight's conversation.
01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:27.920
I've only seen clips.
01:29:28.560 --> 01:29:35.439
And I'm not saying that's where I see creative roots being, but I can see the community growing to that.
01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:37.840
You know, social proof, they have a summit.
01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:39.359
I want a summit.
01:29:39.680 --> 01:29:40.720
Absolutely.
01:29:40.960 --> 01:29:41.520
Absolutely.
01:29:41.680 --> 01:29:42.960
I can totally see that.
01:29:43.279 --> 01:29:44.319
Totally see that.
01:29:44.560 --> 01:29:56.560
And and with your laid back approach, it's a it's a there's a comfortability that's mixed with the actual genuine intrigue about what your story is.
01:29:56.720 --> 01:29:57.359
Yeah.
01:29:57.840 --> 01:30:12.640
Whoever's sitting in this chair, your story matters, and it's and it's that comfort with that genuine intrigue, not just poking questions of being nosy and you know trying to flip it into something else that you may benefit from.
01:30:12.720 --> 01:30:16.399
It's really what what it is what is it that drives you?
01:30:16.479 --> 01:30:21.119
Those types of questions to get someone to open up while they're sitting here.
01:30:21.279 --> 01:30:26.399
That's important because when people are watching, they're gonna have some of those same questions.
01:30:26.640 --> 01:30:33.920
And they're they'll have questions they hope you ask, or they'll have certain things that they hope is covered because they're interested too.
01:30:34.239 --> 01:30:43.760
They're interested in whatever, if it's brooch ties, or if it's if it's film, or if it's music, or if it's you know, visual art, whatever the case may be.
01:30:43.920 --> 01:30:50.479
Right, the people that are watching, they're interested, and that that is going to continue to grow your following.
01:30:50.720 --> 01:30:54.159
And yeah, summit, bro.
01:30:54.319 --> 01:30:55.760
I can I can totally see that.
01:30:55.920 --> 01:30:56.720
Totally see that, bro.
01:30:56.800 --> 01:30:58.640
You're doing good work, doing great work.
01:30:58.720 --> 01:30:59.520
I I love it.
01:30:59.600 --> 01:31:00.239
I appreciate it.
01:31:00.560 --> 01:31:01.439
Doing great work.
01:31:01.760 --> 01:31:05.119
I feel I'm doing what I am called to do.
01:31:05.439 --> 01:31:08.000
It doesn't feel like run my mouth.
01:31:09.119 --> 01:31:10.000
Talk.
01:31:10.479 --> 01:31:12.319
I can talk for days.
01:31:13.119 --> 01:31:21.039
There are some days where I have that introvert moment where I'm like, Yeah, I don't want to talk and I don't want to listen.
01:31:21.119 --> 01:31:44.960
Just gimme, you know, but to let the local community and the world know who this person is sitting in this seat that you're sitting in, to me is a greater value than me sitting here teaching somebody how to start a podcast or talking about my experience only.
01:31:45.279 --> 01:31:45.680
Right.
01:31:45.920 --> 01:31:51.439
You know, this is episode 6970.
01:31:52.000 --> 01:31:53.439
We've been going strong for a whole year.
01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:54.880
We haven't missed a single week.
01:31:55.039 --> 01:31:55.279
Wow.
01:31:55.439 --> 01:31:56.479
Praise ye the Lord.
01:31:56.880 --> 01:31:58.319
We've gone live once.
01:31:58.560 --> 01:32:00.159
We weren't supposed to go live for three hours.
01:32:00.239 --> 01:32:03.359
That thing ended up being four hours of entertainment.
01:32:03.680 --> 01:32:04.239
Wow.
01:32:04.479 --> 01:32:05.119
You know.
01:32:06.960 --> 01:32:13.199
We we have a uh partnership with Mono, the providers of these microphones.
01:32:13.359 --> 01:32:13.840
Wow.
01:32:14.399 --> 01:32:22.880
I'm getting ready to have a uh a conversation with a lady that runs a water company.
01:32:24.560 --> 01:32:26.720
I'm working on some stuff.
01:32:28.960 --> 01:32:42.399
If I could choose one thing to do for the remainder of my life, as much as I love creating short films, being behind the camera, it would be sitting here talking to people like you.
01:32:44.640 --> 01:32:53.359
That's that's and you have you've built, you all have built something special here, bro.
01:32:53.920 --> 01:32:54.880
Something special.
01:32:55.039 --> 01:33:03.119
And I I your vision, just like we were talking about, um you said it's supposed to be three hours and turn into four.
01:33:03.600 --> 01:33:08.880
That that perspective of knowing that you know sometimes things ain't gonna go the way they go.
01:33:09.039 --> 01:33:16.720
Having that pivot, that pivot, being being flexible enough to pivot and knowing that you're doing it for the right reasons, man.
01:33:16.800 --> 01:33:26.000
It's it's it's something that that's about that that brings comfort, confidence, and uh, it doesn't feel like work.
01:33:26.800 --> 01:33:27.840
Doesn't feel like work at all.
01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:31.359
I can I can yeah, I can definitely unid on that with that.
01:33:31.600 --> 01:33:43.680
I would love to have those days where, because it's happened before, where I can have three, four, six people in a day coming in and having these conversations.
01:33:44.079 --> 01:33:52.479
I I see it getting to the point where, and Sherry was the first person to break it, an episode two, three, four hours long.
01:33:53.359 --> 01:33:56.720
You know, let's have a panel discussion.
01:33:57.119 --> 01:34:03.439
You know, let me get two videographers, sit here with me.
01:34:03.680 --> 01:34:06.880
I don't know what we're gonna talk about, but we're gonna talk about something.
01:34:07.439 --> 01:34:10.479
You know, Dom came back for her second episode.
01:34:10.640 --> 01:34:11.760
She made one statement.
01:34:11.920 --> 01:34:14.399
The episode was I said, Dom, I don't even know what we're gonna talk about.
01:34:14.479 --> 01:34:16.159
I say, there's nothing to discuss.
01:34:16.880 --> 01:34:19.279
And it became an open discussion.
01:34:19.600 --> 01:34:25.119
We still had people watching that episode, we still had a conversation, you know.
01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:37.760
I can't even explain or fathom the thought of the vision that has been given to me for this thing here called Creative Roots.
01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:46.000
For me to even speak it, like you're like, wow, that's like the tip of the iceberg, bruh.
01:34:46.319 --> 01:34:47.279
That is it.
01:34:49.199 --> 01:34:54.880
This here for me is the thing that I know.
01:34:59.520 --> 01:35:00.159
I get it.
01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:03.680
Don't yeah, don't, don't, don't, don't tone it down for me, brother.
01:35:04.560 --> 01:35:05.680
Don't tone it down for me.
01:35:05.920 --> 01:35:06.399
Listen.
01:35:06.960 --> 01:35:10.720
I can see it, I can see the passion in you, and and it it excites me.
01:35:10.960 --> 01:35:11.600
That's something.
01:35:11.680 --> 01:35:18.640
When I when you when you see somebody that is that that is walking in there calling, it excites you.
01:35:18.800 --> 01:35:20.159
Oh, it excites me anyway.
01:35:20.319 --> 01:35:24.079
So yeah, if you see me over here making faces and stuff like that, that's why.
01:35:24.319 --> 01:35:28.800
Because like, uh uh, I'm excited, I'm ready to jump back into whatever it is that I'm doing too, you know.
01:35:28.960 --> 01:35:34.880
So I'm I'm I'm I'm extremely I'm thank you for the opportunity of being here, first of all.
01:35:35.920 --> 01:35:36.640
Thank you for coming out.
01:35:36.880 --> 01:35:37.680
Yes, yes, man.
01:35:37.920 --> 01:35:38.479
Yes, yes.
01:35:38.640 --> 01:36:02.000
I I really appreciate this, and um I I really appreciate being in the first seven in one of the first seventy, because bro, I really feel like with what I've seen just before I even came up here, um the little I know of you, but the it's not even about the it's quality over quantity, I guess you can say.
01:36:02.159 --> 01:36:19.279
That's the conversation, that's where I'm going with this, because it's you have something that that is very, very useful, very, very powerful, and if handled well, and I think your your your perspective is is spot on for for reaching all of those goals.
01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:24.079
It's spot on for reaching all of those goals because you're not worried about the views, you're not worried about that.
01:36:24.560 --> 01:36:25.520
That'll come.
01:36:25.840 --> 01:36:27.199
That stuff will come.
01:36:27.520 --> 01:36:32.079
It's the quality of the content, stories that are being told.
01:36:32.399 --> 01:36:34.880
That's what's gonna that's what's gonna take you there.
01:36:35.119 --> 01:36:40.399
And it it starts with the intention, and I love, I love, I love what I'm seeing, man.
01:36:40.479 --> 01:36:42.560
I am so thank you.
01:36:42.720 --> 01:36:44.159
Thank you for letting me be a part of it.
01:36:44.399 --> 01:36:44.560
Amen.
01:36:44.880 --> 01:36:46.000
I appreciate it, man.
01:36:46.159 --> 01:36:50.000
Because I I I want to throw a party by the time we hit 100 episodes.
01:36:50.159 --> 01:36:52.640
We're going live for Christmas again this year.
01:36:52.800 --> 01:36:53.119
Okay.
01:36:53.520 --> 01:36:56.000
Um check out the website.
01:36:56.079 --> 01:37:03.039
We got I'm I have to find the time to drop it, but I keep telling y'all there's a new design coming.
01:37:03.359 --> 01:37:04.960
There's a new design.
01:37:05.600 --> 01:37:10.560
Uh, you know, we we're working on hats.
01:37:11.920 --> 01:37:14.640
We're working on stickers.
01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:24.640
When I say I'm I'm working on things for uh for people to show their support, because I know I know there are people that watch that don't comment, and I'm cool with that.
01:37:24.800 --> 01:37:31.680
Yeah, you know, they told me, hey man, you know, I don't comment on stuff, but hey man, I've seen every single episode, you know.
01:37:33.039 --> 01:37:34.640
Support however you have to support.
01:37:35.760 --> 01:37:39.039
You know, again, it doesn't cost anything to click share, right?
01:37:39.279 --> 01:37:40.239
You know, right.
01:37:40.479 --> 01:37:43.840
Wherever, however, you know, re-post or whatever that is.
01:37:44.079 --> 01:37:52.399
Listen, I gotta sit down and get into the social media space again because I haven't posted any shorts on YouTube since January.
01:37:52.640 --> 01:37:57.199
And I can tell that I haven't because the views are not there.
01:37:57.439 --> 01:37:57.600
Right.
01:37:57.840 --> 01:38:01.600
But for those people that show there every single week, bro.
01:38:03.600 --> 01:38:06.000
That's that that's your true following.
01:38:06.319 --> 01:38:09.039
And and I I get it, I get it.
01:38:09.119 --> 01:38:15.039
There are people that they're gonna be there regardless of the ups, the downs.
01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:32.319
Those people, that's that's your circle, you know, and going from big from a big circle and thinking that was what it was about and growing up, maturing, and realizing that circle don't have to be that they're not have to be big to be powerful.
01:38:33.119 --> 01:38:34.399
They don't have to be big to be powerful.
01:38:34.479 --> 01:38:37.680
And matter of fact, most powerful circles aren't big.
01:38:39.119 --> 01:38:49.279
They aren't but those those people that make up your circle, they make it up with the quality of who they are and their support and and how they support you.
01:38:49.439 --> 01:38:55.760
Um, whether it is a share or repost, or you know, in and in your case, views.
01:38:56.159 --> 01:39:06.159
Um and views for for any any content that you're that you're creating, and and you know, that's the measure.
01:39:06.479 --> 01:39:07.359
Absolutely.
01:39:07.600 --> 01:39:15.359
Absolutely, because that to ignore it, you know, and know you, that's I don't under I don't understand that.
01:39:15.439 --> 01:39:25.199
You know, I don't understand when you know how to support someone and you know someone and you don't and you just don't take the time to do it when it's something very simple.
01:39:25.359 --> 01:39:26.159
Um Right.
01:39:26.479 --> 01:39:32.079
You know, uh, you know, I I like I like to be able to support those.
01:39:32.239 --> 01:39:43.840
I I try to support everybody, but you know, it's it's not it's it's that's not uh realistic because you're gonna have time to do the things that you want to do.
01:39:44.159 --> 01:39:45.119
Correct.
01:39:45.520 --> 01:39:47.039
So listen, y'all.
01:39:47.199 --> 01:39:53.920
I I think we've given y'all more than enough for this episode.
01:39:54.800 --> 01:39:58.319
Because I didn't do it at the beginning, before somebody says something.
01:39:58.640 --> 01:40:05.199
Shout out to Allenux Studios, shout out to Charlotte Podcast Studio, and shout out to ArtBot Charlotte.
01:40:05.359 --> 01:40:07.039
I would like to thank us.
01:40:07.600 --> 01:40:08.960
That is it for this episode.
01:40:09.760 --> 01:40:14.800
I appreciate you for coming in, helping these news, helping educate the community.
01:40:15.119 --> 01:40:18.239
Um, and with that being said, y'all, we are out.
01:40:18.479 --> 01:40:19.279
Peace.