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Welcome everybody to Connecting the Universe. Some author and researcher
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Mike rick Secker back at you out of the secret
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library of the Connected Universe. Well, we have a great
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episode on tap for you today. My good friend Ronnie
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LeBlanc is with us. He's an author researcher. You guys
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will recognize him from such shows like Expedition, Bigfoot, Paranormal
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Caught on Camera, and many others. We are going to
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be talking today about his latest book, inter Dimensional Consciousness
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Cryptids in the Hidden Architecture of Reality, which explores a
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possibility that non human intelligence interacts with our world through
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consciousness itself. I'm really really looking word to this discussion.
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as well. So all that said, without further ado running, Yeah,
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good to see you too. It's been a little while
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and I've had you on the show here for and
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then of course, you know, we we do a lot
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of events and things like that together. But it seems
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like it's been since maybe I don't know, last summer
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or something like that. Yeah, I've seen any I feel.
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Like it's been a year at least.
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I think.
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Well, let's see, was a pair ofs icon last year? Yeah, yeah,
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I didn't. I wasn't able to do that one. I
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forget where we we saw each other. But I know
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we're texting and talking and doing doing stuff.
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But yeah, good to see you. They as good to
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see you.
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Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, and uh we always get in
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some really great conversations.
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Oh.
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I think it was Wisconsin last year because we've been
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out to dinner. We ended up at a at a
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bar with Aaron Seger's and we were just.
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Right, yeah, yes, yes, that's right.
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Good times, good times. Yeah. So, you know, we have
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been in our discussions, we've been talking a lot about, uh,
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the inner dimensional universe and how that relates to things
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like cryptid sightings, UFOs, a lot of paramouml activity that
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we see and experience. So, how does your new book,
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and I'm going to pop it up on the screen here,
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how does your new book Interdimensional cover these topics.
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So my first book, Monster Land, I was talking about
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the interdimensional side of Bigfoot, and you know, people like
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John keel And and Jack Bale and Charles Ford and others,
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and so this is somewhat of an evolution of that idea,
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and I wrapped it with a bunch of my personal
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experiences that just keep on hinting that there's something else
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going on. And I always joke about it's like the
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universe seems to have some sort of an alexa that
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when you vocalize and you're putting that out there, it responds,
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and whether it's you know, through through nature. And so
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I have a bunch of these different and examples of
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that happening, whether it was me saying something or somebody
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else saying something and then boom. We have these different
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experiences where they're there with orange orbs. Ohio has been
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in the news a lot lately, which we'll talk about
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that too, the bigfoot sightings, that that kind of flap,
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that cluster that's happening in northeast Ohio. And then yeah,
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I think they had about six medias or so in
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that same twenty five to thirty mile radius happening. And
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so there always seems to be like a almost like
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these different patterns that are that are showing themselves, whether
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it's strange lights, then cryptids, and then we almost have
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the reverse here where we have cryptids and then we
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have these fireballs and everything else happening.
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So I just met into my house, okay, because that
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first one we were the point of entry right here
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and it shook my house boom wow, which is oh
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my god.
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Yeah, and did it? There was a fragment two that
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fell through someone's house I believe, I don't know if
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it was.
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Yeah, down a little further south, that's where they were
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getting all the all the fragments. We're the point of entry,
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so we got the big boom, but yeah, further south
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like Mdina County, Wayne County. Yeah, that's where they were
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getting the fragments.
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Yeah. And what's fascinating too, is that what people had
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noticed with those big foot settings of the eight or so,
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they were all daytime sightings, and we know that there
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was a variety of different sizes to like from six
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to ten. Whether it's you know, misjudgment on height, but
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it sounds like there's a bunch of different individuals that
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are moving in their direction. They're heading to start state
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park South Salt Folk State Park. Yeah, I'm missing that there.
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And that's where I had an experience that really I
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think shook the idea of what bigfoot is and what
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a lot of this is happening. And that was with
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a strain orange orb softball sized light that you know,
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split into two eyes, became this bigfoot shadow eight foot
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shadows with three other people. And so that went from
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seeing an orb that materialized into a shadow form but
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of a bigfoot that would then run across and start
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interacting with us, and there were other ones around. So
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I started to see these different phases and there seems
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to be something intelligent behind these these orbs, what people
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are seeing with some the different plasma type stuff, and
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even the idea of Ana Luna, you know, talking about
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how she's been briefed about the interdimensional aspect of a
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lot of these craft and that would that makes sense
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to me why we haven't had disclosure completely yet, because
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maybe these things are something more spiritual And you do
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have JD Vance talking about you know, these these things
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are demons now and we kind of goal and I'm
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just yeah, I'm like, okay, we've heard that, like we
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always fear what.
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We don't the JDS from Ohio, he's probably had a
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big Foot experience, right.
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Probably, So yeah, I go into that with the book
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and the and so I try to layer in the
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personal experiences to kind of support what I'm talking about
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and then highlight some of the different things that have
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happened where you know, Italian scientists for the first time
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froze light, sending a beam of light through measuring it
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through thirty seven dimensions, the idea that our brain operates
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on eleven different dimensions. So you have all these things
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that we keep on learning more and more and it
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gets weirder and weirder. As we go.
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Yeah, which is really which is really interesting because I
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I'd seen a bit about the thirty seven dimensions and
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left me scratching my head a little bit. So I'm like, yeah,
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our theoretical physicists, because this is like a part of
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my spiel all the time, is you know, we have
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up to eleven hyperspace spatial dimensions according to theoretical physics.
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So it's like, well, if these guys over here saying
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eleven where it's zero through ten, yet these guys over
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here at saying it's thirty seven, and then you kind
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of have the metaphysical community saying, you know, it's like twelve,
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and they have different you know, variations of what those are.
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It's like, Okay, what are we really talking about? Where
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do we just not really truly know what it is
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that we're referencing when we're talking about dimensions?
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Right? Yeah, And it does seem that there are these
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liminal locations that are seeming to be some sort of
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interface to these these places where you can access them.
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And you know, we have a lot of weird stuff
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that's happening around our new house, but our old house
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as well, And I just was talking about this with
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somebody too that you know, just three four weeks ago,
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I just someone had mentioned to me like, hey, you
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know there's a Native American burial ground across the street
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from your house.
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Plus and you didn't even know.
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I didn't know. And what was wild, Mike is two
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and a half weeks ago. I think it was. We
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had pretty heavy storm that was coming through, and for
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whatever reason, I was kept on waking up at like
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two three in the morning. And the worst thing to
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do you just start looking at your phone, you doom,
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scrolling whatever, and then slowly half an hour goes by.
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But I was wide awake. It was like three or
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so in the morning, and I'm scrolling and the wind
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was kind of picking up, and then I heard where
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to my bedroom's like two stories up. Okay, I heard
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what sounded like something landing on the roof, and it
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sounded like footsteps that ran across the roof all the
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way to the other side. And within a second all
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the power went out.
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Oh wow.
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And then thirty seconds later power came back on, and
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my daughter Lena, who's next room over, had just texted, Hey,
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we just lost power. Oh it's back on. And so
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the next morning I mentioned to her. I got, you know,
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it sounded weird. It sounds weird, but I heard what
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sounded like footsteps running. She goes, I did two. She
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heard it too, and she in the power and she
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thought instantly too, the fact that the power went out
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at that moment was wild. And this was coming from
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the direction of the Native American burial ground. So we've
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had bigfoot activity in the backyard. There's been a VFO
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siting a couple hundred yards down the road this way.
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My wife saw one run across the road on the
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opposite side, and that's actually the inspiration for the cover
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of the book. That's what she saw was something that was.
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Which is a cool cover, by the way, Oh thank you.
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Yeah. She could see through it in a way that
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it looked like stack electricity, but she could see the outline.
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And I go into different people that I meet at
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conferences and different things like that, where once they hear
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what I have experienced or some other family members or
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other people, they go, can I tell you my story?
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And it's amazing. I have several I think four different
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people in the book Indiana, Kentucky, and New York that
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described the same thing where they can see this, this outline,
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this this spiritual type of interdimensional being kind of phasing
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in and out. Yeah, and they all seem to have
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some previous paranormal or UFO experiences, So it seems to
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be like a progression of the understanding of it. And
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I'm now a firm believer too that you know, consciousness
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is not limited to we think it's just human beings.
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But I do believe that nature itself is is conscious.
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You know, we're seeing that and we're seeing you know,
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the idea that consciousness was here way before even humans were.
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Oh yeah, so that that seems to be more the
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more the case now with with what's coming out. Yeah.
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Well I even saw an article some years back where
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you know, scientists we're saying the Earth itself has a consciousness,
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and I got to kick out of it because you know,
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there's a part of me that is just like you know,
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we in this community, we've been talking about the Earth
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having a consciousness for you know, thousands of years, and
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it's science is finally catching up.
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Right, Yeah, this just then fruits and vegetables are good
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for you, right, right exactly.
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I do want to let people down that that are
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watching this or listening to this later. That down in
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the description, I do have a link to Ronnie's book Interdimensional,
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so definitely pick that up. Absolutely.
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A couple of things out of that, Well, we're talking
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to mentions before, and there was a I went through
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a hypnotic regression years ago and actually has actually put
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me into a couple now. But this was with somebody
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else some years back, and it was part of the
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regression is I wanted to find out more about an
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event that happened to me when I was a child,
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and because I had a basically I'm an experiencer, and
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this was a bean that showed up in my room
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back at that point in time, and we were actually
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able to at that time channel the beam like in
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real time, which was fascinating. And one of the questions
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because she was asking, you know, who are you, where
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are you from those sorts of things, and the where
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are you from question was it was from another space
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and her follow up was well, do you mean another dimension?
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And it responded with, well, you might call it another dimension,
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but really it's another space, which I think is really
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really a fascinating aspect that you know, we might not
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quite understand what it is that we're dealing with, kind
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of going back to the Yeah, there's all these different
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definitions of dimensions, and then got the you know, the
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the running around on the roof. I actually, you know,
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it's kind of funny. A few years back, it was
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actually Christmas Eve in bed, you know, waiting for Christmas
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morning basically, and it was like, seriously, am I being
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like a little kid right now? Because literally heard bump
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on the roof, running around just.
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Like you were.
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But you also have like these phantom explosionads which we
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saw during like the big Drone flap and know, we'll
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get into that. That's right, that experience, big explosion, thought
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the transformer outside blew up, you know, looking out the window.
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It's fine, people are fine. Yeah, you know where to
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come from. So, yeah, it seems like we are having
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these interactions with something that's around us, but isn't necessarily
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always physically here with us.
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Do you feel like we're at a place in time
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where these dimensions, these spaces, spaces like even in the
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Book of Genesis has created the worlds. And I always
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used to think planets. Yeah, but if you think of
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dimensions and stack, do you think that there's potential that
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we're actually melding between another dimension or there is something
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that's kind of bleeding through at a point where.
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Well, I mean, it's it's all a part of our universe,
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I believe, and it's all we talk about these different
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dimensions and if you kind of go from where the
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traditional of what dimensions are you know, first, second, third,
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you know, we have our three dimensional objects fourth time,
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which is where our consciousness resides, and we have our
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experiences from the fourth and we can interact with everything
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below us, the five, six, seven, eight and onward. They're
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still here there around us, but we don't have the
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geometrical capacity to see it all the time. But sometimes
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they lead into our world, like the whole idea of
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like like the story of the flat Landers. Are you
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familiar with that one?
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Sure? Sure?
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Yeah? Where there it's a it's a world on a
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two dimensional plane, but you drop like a sphere into it,
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which is a three dimensional object, and the people in
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that in that world, they they can't really experience the sphere,
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but they see the circle aspect of it. As you
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drop it in, it becomes a you know, a progressively
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bigger circle and then shrinks back down as it passes through,
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so they see a glimpse of it. And so with
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some of these different you know, whether it's you're talking
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the sas question into a you know, shadowy figure. I've
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done a lot of work for shadow people. So whether
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a shadow or an apparition or just like a little
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glimpse of something, is that something from that other dimension
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that's bleeding into ours for a hot second.
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Yeah, And what's interesting with that is there was somebody
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that was hunting in Lemonster that started experiencing what would
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be described like a puckwudgie elf type creature. And on
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several other occasions he did see a Native American appear
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with like a headdress and communicated with this thing, so
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you could hear it audibly talking and they started pointing
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at him. And he also said there was another timeframe
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where he saw what looked like a dinosaur, like a
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philosopher actor like this, like this this place was there
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was some sort of an opening there where these things
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were coming through or you're seeing from different timelines at
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that same spot. So it freaked them out. And this apparently,
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you know, engineer super smart was just terrified by all
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these experiences. Thought he was losing his mind. Yeah, and
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stopped hunting. So you wonder about these places with that
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that timeline being being shifted and things coming in and out.
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I'm just talking to somebody out of England with that
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that saw what looked like a flying dragon. You know
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that that's what he describes, Like, what the.
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That's pretty well. Have you ever been to Hinsdale House
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in New York?
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No? I have not.
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Okay, it's interesting and yeah there's stuff that goes on
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inside the house and Dan has that set up for
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as a paranormal investigative center. But I have found a
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lot more going on the land behind it, and you know,
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it's old Native American land. People have heard the drums
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out there, people have reported seeing puckuadgi type beings out
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there or another guy, my friend Sean, had been out there.
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He saw something with like antlers that was just kind
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of sitting back there. And I have it's going to
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be featured in another film that I'm working out. We
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were talking about the Stargates one earlier. Yeah, but it's uh,
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I follow up the Shadow Dimension where this is featured
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in there. And I was back there a few years
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ago and out in the distance in the woods you
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could see this bouncing blue ball of light, and we
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couldn't go all the way back there because there was
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another person's property. So we're kind of on the edge
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looking looking, and like you were talking before about things
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kind of morphing in and out of existence, and this
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was really doing that where it would get blurry and
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then all of a sudden it become really sharp and
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just bouncing around back there. We're trying to call out
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to it, you know, come closer, but it just kept
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bouncing around. So finally we gave up on it, went
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back into the house for a little bit, and then
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we decided to hang out by and he's got a
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fire pit step step back there, so we're hanging around
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the fire and then all of a sudden, from down
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out of the woods. This is late September, so it
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wasn't fireflies here. All these little blue lights and the
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ones in the air were twinkling, the ones that were
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on the ground, which is slowly morphing in and out
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of existence, and we're like down there with flashlights strying
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to see if it's like some sort of bug or what,
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and it wasn't. Yeah, it was. It was really really wild.
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So I've kind of played around with this some different
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theories on this for a while. One that all those
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little twinkling lights had been the big ball and then
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the broken apart and came down.
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The other idea, which I've been playing around with more
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recently here and this almost kind of ties into your
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your work on plasmas, because I do believe that there's
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more going on with plasmas and plasmoids, And that was
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that the portal that whatever these little lights were, these
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little beings came through, was that the portal through which
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came through to Artema to be back there at the moment.
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Man. Yeah. And what's wild too, is that it does
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seem like these things are alive, they're conscious, right, Like
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the first time I saw these two orange orbs flying
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like in tandem with each other, upon looking at them
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like these are balls of fire. Instantly seeing them, I
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got this sense that they were they were intelligent, like
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they were conscious, and I don't understand. It was almost
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like a quick download, like just looking at it and
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just knowing that this was something different. And sure enough,
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these things would start, these orbs would start showing up
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at Cape Cod and Salt Fork and different areas, and
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so there seemed to be an instant conscious connection. And
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I do recall my wife at one point when we
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early on, we had a smaller orange orb that was
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flying around in our bedroom and she was trying to
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wake me up and she couldn't get me up, and
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she felt like She's like, I felt like that was
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you finding around because I couldn't wake you up from it.
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But my other daughter Lena, who who her and I
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have had some experiences together, had seen one in her
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room and she took a picture of it, which I'm
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trying to find and it was like the spinning ball
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of fire that was She took a picture of it
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in her bedroom, like just hovering there.
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Oh wow.
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So yeah, and she was terrified of it. Of course,
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imagine seeing that as a as a kid. But it
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does seems that you know your idea that that was
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a portal almost just moving through. I wouldn't be shocked
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by that. Nothing surprises me anymore. You see you.
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See those balls of light, well with with the sasquat,
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you see them with ets, you see them. UFO saw
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them with the drone flap year and a half. A
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couple of years ago, people were reporting seeing the drones
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going in and out of these balls of light. Our
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you know, government kind of swept that under there a
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couple of months later. Yeah, it was uh government testing
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when all the government agencies before that for months had
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been saying, we don't know what's going on.
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Yeah. One of one of the mayors, I forget which township.
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In New Jersey somewhere, Yeah.
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Yeah, and he saw a white ball flight and he
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said it turned into a drone. And even one of
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the during the hearings they had with George Knapp and
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I forget the gentleman's name of that was with the
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Air Force at the time, smoking a cigarette and he
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was on the on the base Air Force base, and
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he witnessed a white ball light over the tarmac and
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it seemed to notice him and then moved over and
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then when it hovered over him, it he said that
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he goes, I'm just gonna sound where but this is
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the best way to describe it, and manifested into a
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into a triangle and so you know, you're you kind
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of go, okay, these things just simply becoming you know,
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because even with plasma, it can become you know, it
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becomes a solid. Also, it can become like a shadow too,
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righte like it can become what would be described as
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like that shadow figure. So going from a light or
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you know, and then changing that shape. I find there's
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something going on with that. And even like I think
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it was doctor Salvatore pie I forget which podcast he
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was on, he hinted at something along those lines, like, Hey,
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what if we just discovered that plasma is conscious and
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there are plasma beings living alongside us, and we just
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discovered this and they've been here this entire time and so.
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The entire time.
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Yeah, because you look at and I talked about this
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in the book, you know, like in the Book of Acts,
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when they have the tongues of fire over all of
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them and suddenly they could communicate with almost almost like
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telepathic where you had all these different languages, and then
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you have the the burning Bush with Moses and the
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Star of Bethlehem and then all these different things. We
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see it come up time and time again through different
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cultures as well.
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Yeah, you know you mentioned the burning Bush with Moses.
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I threw a video out there last year in which
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it might have been a little bit of a reach,
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but I threw it out there. What if the burning
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bush was a stargate, but I went down the whole
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route of the plasmoids that you know, he would not
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have understood, you know what a plasmoid or something like
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that would have been if it was hovering there by
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a bush wouldn't necessarily be burning the bush itself because
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the bush itself in the story never got incinerated. It
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was just right. So what if he's communicating through this
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this plasmoidal bottle of light?
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Mm hmm for sure. Yeah, and yeah, you see that.
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And now you start to see more people having those
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those things happen too, And like I, I always found
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this really interesting because of the quick connection to it.
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But I met a reiki master, like early on that
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was one of the camera operators of some show we're
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doing in New Hampshire, was like a cable access show.
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And Bill Penning, who was one of the ones that
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found this trackway and loves to state forced and I
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casted one of those prints and that's where mons Land
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started to come together. But after we're filming, she came
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up and you know, she almost had like tears in
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her eyes and she goes, they want you to know
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that you can go invisible, you can learn these different
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and go, what are you talking about? But she said,
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you know, I work with the Angelic Realms and talk
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about the White Brotherhood all these different things, and I
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was just fascinated by it when it came to like
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the Ascended Masters. But she started going through her phone
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and showing photos of these white orbs that she was
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capturing inside the house as well as outside, and she's like,
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you know, you can catch these pretty much anytime you want,
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you know, especially at night, if you go out, find
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a dark spot, shut the flash off, and announce out
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loud that you want to see him, like mentioned like
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this Alexa thing. So I think it was a couple
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days later and I was picking up my kids from
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my parents' house and they're they're all getting in the car,
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and suddenly I had this like feel like, hey, it's dark,
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it's a good spot. Let's try this, you know. So
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I took out the phone and I said it out loud.
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I you know, I said, Cheryl won't said that. You know,
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00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:21.559
when I take a picture of you, you can show
486
00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:24.240
up and make your present stone. And so I made
487
00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:26.759
sure the flash was off and I was looking down
488
00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:29.359
the barrel of it, and I took four shots and
489
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:31.960
just kind of took my time in different spots, but
490
00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:34.160
I trying to keep it in the same area. And
491
00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:37.640
then the fifth shot, I just decided to look away
492
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:39.440
and I took the picture and there was a flash
493
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:44.079
and I was like, I left. I hit the flash on.
494
00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:47.079
I was like, so I just put in my pocket
495
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:49.519
because I didn't want to be disappointed. And I was like,
496
00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:51.079
i'll check it when I get home in like five minutes.
497
00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:53.680
So the kids run in. I pull up my phone
498
00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:56.440
and I scroll through the first four and then I
499
00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:59.880
see that fifth picture and there's a white streak like
500
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.920
an orbit went straight through the campus. So you see
501
00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:05.720
the street going all the way across and you can't
502
00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:07.559
tell if it's coming from this way or that way.
503
00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:12.039
Or I was like, holy crap. So I instantly texted,
504
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:15.240
or I might have been on messenger Cheryl like hey,
505
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:17.519
it worked, and I sent the picture of it and
506
00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:21.559
she goes, WHOA. She goes, I've just heard your name,
507
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:25.480
you know, five ten minutes ago from them, and she goes, typically,
508
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:28.480
they'll you know, hear a name like Jeremy or whatever,
509
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:32.119
and the lights will start flickering, so she knows it's
510
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:34.359
coming from them. In the house and she goes within
511
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:37.440
twenty four hours, that person will either call me, I'll
512
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:40.279
run into at the grocery store. So they kind of
513
00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:42.880
give me this warning about but they said your full
514
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:46.160
name and you just you just sent me a message
515
00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:47.319
like in five ten minutes, and I.
516
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:48.680
Was like whoa.
517
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:51.519
And I was like still trying to wrap my head
518
00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:53.960
around all of it, and I was like, this is wild.
519
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:59.039
And Lena again, one of my daughters, my middle daughter,
520
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:03.000
she was at the kitchen table having cereal and I
521
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:06.720
was just talking to her about it, and then suddenly
522
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:11.160
we turned to the doorway and this light being appears
523
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.240
in the doorway, shaped like a human form, bright white,
524
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:16.720
pure light, and it was like somebody turning on a
525
00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:18.680
ring light, like turning it all the way up to
526
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:21.680
the brightness that you're like, whoa. And then it quickly
527
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:25.359
as it appeared, it just disappeared. And she's just like
528
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:28.319
did you just see that? What did I go? What
529
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:31.960
did you see? And she described it exactly and I
530
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:35.799
was like, did we just get visited by an angel?
531
00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:40.279
Like like it those you know, calling it out, capturing
532
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:43.319
that her confirming you know, we're seeing that message. And
533
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:46.599
then that appearing in the house from two different locations.
534
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:48.000
That that blew my mind.
535
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:53.079
Yeah, that's that's pretty amazing. I actually just happened to
536
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:55.000
have because I have a whole slew of photos that
537
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:59.359
have just been preloaded here lighting, how is it in
538
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:02.319
comparison to this, because that's that's more of like a
539
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:05.359
shadow with the light I mean, or was it just allure.
540
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:08.920
All pure white light, like if you were to replace
541
00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:13.279
that with just white light, and it was you know,
542
00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:19.200
and again I recall just hearing about in biblical terms,
543
00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:22.119
you know, from different things the books of the Bible.
544
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:25.720
It talked about this blinding bright white light, you know
545
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:28.839
that wearing the robe or what you might describe, and
546
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:32.559
that's it gave me a feeling of it being angelic.
547
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:36.559
It gave me feeling of it being a higher evolved
548
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:41.160
being of sorts. But it definitely was like, Okay, this
549
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:44.680
was connected to all this like she's not crazy, she
550
00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:48.079
was she was talking like this is real. So that
551
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:50.440
was one of those again one of those moments where
552
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:52.680
I'm like, I need most people like you need to
553
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:55.680
have that experience for you to really accept it or
554
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:57.519
believe it. And it's still when it happened, you still
555
00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:00.160
kind of God one more time.
556
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:04.440
Because make sure let me get the phone and get
557
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:08.480
it get a photo. Yeah, that's wild. That's incredible though,
558
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:09.079
that's incredible.
559
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:09.519
Yeah.
560
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:12.920
You hear a lot of stories about people having experiences
561
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:17.000
with with light beans and that, you know, the the
562
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:19.880
beans that people keep talking about, that's what they are,
563
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:22.920
at least uh one of them are, because you hear
564
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:26.200
all kinds of different variations of different types of beans.
565
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.880
Yeah, there's a lady by name Melinda Marcnne I believe
566
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:32.880
on in New Zealand who has done a lot of
567
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:35.079
macro photography and I bring her up a lot because
568
00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:38.000
I think she's still on Facebook, has a different group,
569
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:41.640
but she started taking photos of these orbs different you
570
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:46.160
know it, but zooming in and you see entities in
571
00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:49.880
these things. Some look like elves, some look like great aliens,
572
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:55.000
some look like little people, but they are inside what
573
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.519
would be termed as a vehicle, a light vehicle, ma carbo,
574
00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:01.400
whatever you want to call it. But it's fascinating that
575
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.519
she has I think fifty, you know, a hundred of
576
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:07.039
these photos with all different types of beings that it
577
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:10.759
can't just be you know, I was playing tricks on
578
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:14.039
you kind of thing. It's it looks like real beings
579
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:16.279
in there, which is that's incredible.
580
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:20.480
Kate, my wife when she was in Scotland, she always
581
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:24.440
talked about that there was a portal in the one
582
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:26.720
room in her house there and she will show me
583
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:29.839
these photos that she had taken of like different beings
584
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:35.160
and things coming through the portal, which was absolutely incredible. Wow.
585
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:38.480
But on the note of the ORBS, I do have
586
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:40.599
a couple from her there, but I just wanted to
587
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:42.519
run through a couple of these. So, like when we
588
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:45.799
were talking about the drones, this is one of the
589
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.759
photos from that time. There's okay, yes she had drone,
590
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:51.799
but then we were seeing other photos. This one's from
591
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:56.480
a professional photographer, right, all a light. This was like
592
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:01.079
ABC or CBS, you know, it was one of the
593
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:05.799
three letter news stations, right Kate. And actually I got
594
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.640
multiple photos of this one. She had seen this one
595
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:12.680
outside of Edinburgh, Scotland. Yeah, and when you were talking
596
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:16.799
earlier about you know, changing shapes. I don't have it
597
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:19.559
loaded up here, but there was another one from Scotland
598
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:22.240
from a different angle at a different point in time
599
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:24.400
that that night caught it as more of like a
600
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:28.240
diamond shape. This one here because you're talking about orange
601
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:30.519
ball of light. This one hears really wild to me
602
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:34.759
because you can you can tell this is not just
603
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:37.759
some you know, trick of photography or what it because
604
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.640
it is inside the cloud clouds.
605
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:41.079
Yeah.
606
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:43.519
Yeah, another one that Kate kept and where was this was?
607
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:44.400
Where was this one?
608
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:48.119
This is another one from Edinburgh, Scotland. Wow, but you
609
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.519
can see the clouds wrapping around it in the glow
610
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:52.559
emanating from the clouds.
611
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:55.079
Unbelievable.
612
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:57.079
So I was wondering if that one's close to the
613
00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:58.759
orange ones that you've seen.
614
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:03.359
The ones that I've seen are they look like suns,
615
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:07.440
like really deep orange reddish And that one that looks
616
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.680
like there's I think that second photo, the yellowish one.
617
00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:16.640
Our buddy Scott Davis actually remote viewed right and and
618
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:19.680
and he said he felt like he hit like an
619
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:21.960
electrical fence and that's what he was seeing with that
620
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:24.279
when he's trying to look into the drones. And he
621
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:27.599
said he was getting like mental pressure and all the
622
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.079
all the stuff. That he had some sort of a
623
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:33.960
defense mechanism that wouldn't let him remote view it. So
624
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:37.599
it seemed to have a consciousness countermeasure to make sure
625
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:40.640
nobody could actually look into this thing. And I always
626
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:45.440
felt like, wow, that's that's definitely next level with these things.
627
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:47.839
Yeah, it really is, And you know, there was so
628
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:50.400
much more. I thought to follow up there with that
629
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:52.839
because because you, Scott and I were kind of we
630
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:56.079
were hitting on a lot of that that was going
631
00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:58.079
on at the time. And then all of a sudden,
632
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:00.519
because you know, government came out said oh it was
633
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:05.079
just testing. You stopped hearing the more formal reports, and
634
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.799
people behind the scenes were saying, hey, we're still seeing this,
635
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:11.119
but you weren't seeing a lot of that material still
636
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:13.679
being put out there to check out and investigate, which
637
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:16.360
I thought was really a disservice because there was something
638
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:17.559
that was certainly going on here.
639
00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:23.239
Yeah, and they definitely, I think, bucketed everything the drones
640
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:25.119
that people were seeing, and then people were seeing the
641
00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:29.480
spheres and these balls a light under one bucket, but
642
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:32.920
people were seeing both of those and some turning into
643
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:36.719
one or the other. So and I do remember as
644
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:40.079
soon as the mainstream media picked up, they also stopped,
645
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:43.800
and then everyone just assumed the activity stopped. But then
646
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:47.199
we were seeing reports coming out of Norway and Europe
647
00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:50.960
and bases being shut down. And I remember that was
648
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:53.320
it maybe two years or year and a half ago
649
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:58.079
that pilot commercial pilot in the UK witnessed a sphere
650
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:00.800
that looked like something at a dragon ball z come
651
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:03.079
out of the sky. It was hovering like a feet
652
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:06.880
above the tarmac before it shot up. Yeah, and you know,
653
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:11.719
you think of like the Chicago O'Hare incident. So it
654
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:16.400
definitely feels like something is amping up. I'm like, I
655
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:19.280
was expecting for them to come around the moon. Who
656
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:27.719
I'm expecting some they may have and just didn't it. Yeah, true, like.
657
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:30.159
They may have been told well when you see something like,
658
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:38.079
don't react because right yeah, yeah, right exactly.
659
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:38.440
Yeah.
660
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:42.519
It just it drove me nuts because they just the
661
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:45.599
official report was, you know, we were doing uh testing
662
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:48.320
with drones in New Jersey and yeah, that's where a
663
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:53.719
lot of the drone news and we do know that, yes,
664
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:55.920
they were setting up that that base right there by
665
00:35:55.920 --> 00:36:01.280
Scott Uh they were setting up some some drone operas there. Fine,
666
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:03.119
you know, and I did think a lot of the
667
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:06.280
drones that were being seen were actually government testing, but
668
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:08.760
it did not account for the ones that people were
669
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:12.159
seen all over the country, all over the world, right,
670
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:14.840
and then the balls of light that people were seeing.
671
00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:17.960
I loved it back then because you were talking about, look,
672
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:21.280
this has caused people to look up. People weren't looking
673
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.079
up before. When they started looking up, they started noticing
674
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:27.960
these other things. But the the government just didn't address
675
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:29.239
it at all. They were just like, oh, yeah, those
676
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:32.079
new Jersey drones were government testing and just guess we're
677
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:33.639
supposed to ignore everything else we saw.
678
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:37.639
And there was the other piece too that people had
679
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:42.559
brought up that had these personal sightings. They were saying
680
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:46.039
that when they did see some of these drones, the
681
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:49.280
sound that they were emitting, they felt like it was
682
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:54.280
manufactured sound, like it wasn't really from the object, Like
683
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:56.920
it was almost mimicking the sound of what a drone
684
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:00.159
would be. And I heard that from different people, and
685
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:03.320
I thought that was fascinating, Like it's the whole trickster
686
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.360
thing again, where these things are mimicking the technology of
687
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:09.320
the time, which right now is drones.
688
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:12.039
Well, there was one that's something and it was a
689
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:14.360
video that Scott had sent our away and it was
690
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:17.079
one that he took, so it was from his house. Yeah,
691
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:20.119
and the little little drone you got the balls of lights,
692
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:22.639
you know, going on, and it sounded like an airplane.
693
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:26.360
It's like, yes, doesn't make sense that that sounds like
694
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:27.039
an airplane.
695
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:32.280
Yes see, that's that's where. And you wonder if that's
696
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:35.360
on you know, a purpose for people to pick up
697
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:40.039
that in the something else or because I don't really
698
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:43.280
feel like they slip up too much. You know, they
699
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:45.840
always seemed with these orbs and even like some of
700
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:51.000
the tic TAC stuff where they're arriving, you know, showing
701
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:53.519
up at a place where only they know where they're
702
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:55.800
going to, you know, the cat point or whatever. Yeah,
703
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:57.840
and the things they are waiting for him like it
704
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:02.400
was already in their heads or or somehow accessed the
705
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:07.320
future to be there. So I've always found that wild
706
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:13.119
where another instance too where this was early on again,
707
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:17.119
just beaking out loud and Bill, we're out in Lumpster
708
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:20.239
State Force and we're cheking out at night and we
709
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:23.679
got it was really terrifying. We realized we're like we
710
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:26.480
were ill equipped with everything. But he pointed to this
711
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:30.199
ridgeline the furthest part of Lumpso State Force and he said,
712
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:33.360
you know, if we're going to find anything like structures
713
00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:36.599
or cave systems, and it's probably going to be in
714
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:38.519
that area because a lot of people don't go up there,
715
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:42.159
and I wouldn't be surprised. We found tracks whatever, and
716
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:44.639
we're shooting the shit a little bit more, and then
717
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:47.360
suddenly a light turned on, like somebody just flipped on
718
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:49.320
a switch. And we both turned and we see this
719
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:53.599
orange orb appeared out of nowhere in the middle of
720
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:55.760
the sky, but like low enough that we can see,
721
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:59.920
and it starts moving towards the force that he pointed to,
722
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:03.440
and I grab his arm. I'm always like, I'm like,
723
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:05.960
tell me what you're seeing right now? So I can
724
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:10.079
you know any confirmed orange or moving heading right to
725
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:12.960
the forest. And once it hit the edge of the forest,
726
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:17.000
it started going through the forest and lighting up the
727
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:19.519
whole area like headlights on a car. And it was
728
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:22.199
hovering about four feet four or five feet off the ground.
729
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:25.039
And this thing's going right to the point where he
730
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:28.719
pointed at and I just got it. I'm like no,
731
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:31.519
And it stopped and hovered over that spot and it
732
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:33.840
went right into the ground where he said we should go,
733
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:38.760
and we we didn't stick around, like we didn't go
734
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:40.320
to see it. We freaked out and get in the
735
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:44.039
car and we took off, but it was for me,
736
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:46.400
it was like a confirmation, like, yeah, you want to
737
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:50.000
see stuff come up here X marks, the orb marks,
738
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:53.119
the spark, the spot kind of things. Yeah.
739
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:58.159
Yeah, Well, what did it make sense if okay, if
740
00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:01.800
these balls a light are if they're the mode of
741
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:06.159
transportation or the portal, or they're transformative, they're the being
742
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:08.639
or the craft themselves that transform into something. I mean,
743
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:14.159
wouldn't it make sense that if you are coming from
744
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:17.079
another dimension or you're coming from another point in time
745
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:21.159
and you want to go and you know, just explore
746
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:24.880
or observe, you know, this this particular point in time
747
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:28.880
and humanity and that sort of thing that you're going
748
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:32.079
to try to for the most part, try to blend in. Right,
749
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:36.760
So would you not want your if you're sending some
750
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:40.320
sort of you know, observation craft, would you not want
751
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:43.599
it to blend into the other craft at the time,
752
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:45.760
such as drones and things like this.
753
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:48.960
Right, right, just like the mysterious you know, the mystery
754
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:53.559
airship sightings and late eighteen hundreds, early hundreds, Yeah, I
755
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:55.280
feel like, yeah, you would. You would want to kind
756
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:57.920
of come in undercover in a way. You don't want
757
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:03.519
to completely expose yourself. And I mean you've also heard
758
00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:06.000
like thing. It was like Ryan Graves, one of the
759
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:09.039
pilots who happens to be from Gardner, Mass just the
760
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:14.039
next town over, who witnessed a black cube inside a
761
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:18.559
white sphere as it flew by his fighter jet. And
762
00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:21.400
so the idea too, that are they creating this field
763
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:25.199
around them? Is that what we're seeing or is it
764
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:26.920
you know, because there's been a lot of things that
765
00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:31.519
are seen inside these orbs, you know, and like you said, too,
766
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:34.960
Ufo stuff, Bigfoot stuff, paranorma, we have orbs that go
767
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:37.679
across all of these Yeah.
768
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:39.199
Speaking of the cubes, there was a guy that I
769
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:42.079
was talking to. He had been he'd worked from some
770
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:47.280
sort of oceanography company or whatever, and he had come
771
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:52.280
to phenomenon in Utah a few years back, and he
772
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:56.639
was talking about when they were underwater that they saw
773
00:41:56.719 --> 00:42:00.280
one of these huge glowing cubes there on the bottom
774
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:04.480
of the ocean floor, which was incredible. So kind of
775
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:06.119
like Graves was seeing it in the sky, he was
776
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:07.280
seeing it on the ocean floor.
777
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:12.320
Holy cow, I feel like, I don't know, Bob Lazar,
778
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:16.519
he was just on Joe Rogan, a couple of days ago,
779
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:19.679
and I think he just revealed something along the fact
780
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:22.239
that that the sports mall that he was working on
781
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:26.960
was a archaeological underwater craft.
782
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:31.440
Okay, and so I have to watch that, and of
783
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:34.320
course as for films on I just haven't had a chance.
784
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:37.360
Yeah, and I think that's where it may have emerged from.
785
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:40.599
But we're hearing that, you know, the whole Atlantis thing
786
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:43.519
and all that is coming up in like the Bouga sphere,
787
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:46.039
which I find fascinating.
788
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:51.800
So yeah, because that you watch the footage and the
789
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:55.320
bugosphere is just kind of gliding across and then all
790
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:58.280
of a sudden something happens and it drops out of
791
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:01.800
the sky. But you know, there's no welds on this thing.
792
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:06.039
You know what in the world propelled it? Right, And
793
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:08.400
they're making claims now stuff like you know, it's it's
794
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:11.599
been gaining weight and all these other things may or
795
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:14.119
might may not be true because yeah, we haven't held
796
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:14.440
the thing.
797
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:18.159
So I do know someone that did hold it, Okay.
798
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:24.920
Josh Golmbski from from Guaya, host of Cosmic Disclosure, had
799
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:29.400
gone to the press conference in Mexico, Okay, and I
800
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:33.159
guess Stephen Stephen Greer was there and Greer's team was
801
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:37.159
filming a doc and they were filming, and I guess
802
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:39.519
Josh was like, you know, when I was going heading
803
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:41.280
to this thing, it was I thought this was a hoax,
804
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:44.719
some art project whatever. Yeah, And once I got to
805
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:48.679
the lab and the university, I could see that the
806
00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:52.679
engineers and stuff they're working on was there was something
807
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.119
to it, and the respond to the better chance and
808
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:58.360
the weight increase and all this, he goes. What really
809
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:03.079
got my attention was that there were twenty people that
810
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:07.599
were with Greer. They were all from NASA, because that
811
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:10.760
was the he goes. That's where I went, all right,
812
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:14.480
they're taking this seriously. And while he was there, there
813
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:20.079
was a an attempt by fake security guards to steal
814
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:26.119
the Bogosphere. Oh really and yeah, and they apparently they
815
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:30.079
didn't get far. Maybe they switched this thing out. But
816
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:32.679
people were saying, well, if it was one of the
817
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:36.760
three Letter agencies, they would have accomplished the goal. Yeah.
818
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:40.199
I don't know if that's always the case, but I do.
819
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:42.199
I do find it interesting that it was during that
820
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:44.880
time period where they did try to come and grab it,
821
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:49.440
and I think they had it carbon dated and it
822
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:51.639
goes back to twelve.
823
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:54.719
Results years, which is right at the end of the
824
00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:58.960
Younger dry Ass, which is the last great cataclysm.
825
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:01.760
So with that, with that fall line in your opinion
826
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:02.719
with Atlantis and.
827
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:09.519
That that's exactly at Atlantis Atlantis. Okay, So Atlantis was
828
00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:12.440
ninety six hundred BC, so that was more like eleven thousand,
829
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:16.119
six hundred years ago. But that's I mean, that's not
830
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:20.760
far off. We start talking about those types of numbers, right, yeah, and.
831
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:23.599
You yeah, you want you know, the Earth is seventy
832
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:27.079
percent water, right, We are the minority when it comes
833
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:29.039
to being the land dwellers on this planet. So you
834
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:32.559
do wonder if there's if there is a civilization that's
835
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:34.679
you know, just like the drones being seen coming out
836
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:39.159
of the water. Even Betty Andres and Luca who from
837
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:45.760
Lemonster Orange or Gray's Nordic's and she stated that she
838
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:48.440
felt when they took her she was abducted several times,
839
00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:51.239
missing time as a child and much older and I
840
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:55.440
believe her daughter, but she described being taken to a
841
00:45:55.480 --> 00:46:01.039
place that she felt was either underground or in water. Okay,
842
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:04.760
And there they've been talking now that there is some
843
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:07.559
sort of an underwater base off of the East coast
844
00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:12.119
or these these beings where wherever that may be. But
845
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:14.159
you do see a lot of the If you look
846
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:17.960
at UFO map of the the North America, you see
847
00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:21.079
all of the outskirts along the water and even the
848
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:24.559
Great Lakes where there's a huge amount of those UFO sightings.
849
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:26.079
UAP set those spots.
850
00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:31.199
So yeah, you talk like up here, Well, I'm in Cleveland,
851
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:32.679
so we have Lake Erie, but you know, kind of
852
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:35.679
around the corner there with Michigan, Lake Michigan, there have
853
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:38.480
been UFO sightings, you know, for the last one hundred
854
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:41.880
years before UFOs were popular, and they always talked about
855
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:45.719
these red lights over the lake and then go missing.
856
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:47.920
It's known as the Lake Michigan triangle. But yeah, there
857
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:50.480
were UFO sightings before UFOs were in vogue.
858
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:54.079
Right. Yeah, out here, we have a lot of reports
859
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:58.800
around reservoirs, and I think it was like phil and
860
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:03.199
Brognio years ago had looked at I think there's one
861
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:05.400
hundred and twenty four, one hundred and forty four cases
862
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:10.079
of these UFOs reported over these reservoirs and they were
863
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:16.880
all triangle craft. They were all freshwater reservoirs and like
864
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:20.920
man made reservoirs and they happened to be no more
865
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.719
than fifty feet above. And I did talk to Vermont
866
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:27.079
state trooper of thirty plus years that came to one
867
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:29.559
of my talks that said that he lives in western
868
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:32.320
mass now. And he goes, we have a view of
869
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:36.920
the reservoir from our porch. We'll have our evening cocktail
870
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:42.400
and just look out. And we saw three reddish orange
871
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:46.559
lights and a triangle formation. And when I zoned in
872
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:48.159
and looked at it was a triangle craft that was
873
00:47:48.239 --> 00:47:52.159
hovered over the reservoir. Oh well, like holy like holy crap.
874
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:56.199
I go, what happened? Like disappeared that shoot off? And
875
00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:59.000
he goes, we watched it go under the water.
876
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:00.239
Oh here.
877
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:05.360
I was like, oh, you know, like we have the
878
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.400
Baltic Sea anomaly and all these that looks like the
879
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:08.360
Millennium falcon.
880
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:11.519
Uh yeah, yeah, which is great. I mean there there
881
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:15.079
that is absolutely well intelligent. Man It could be man made,
882
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:20.480
could be otherwise, Yeah, doesn't bit. Yeah, Yeah, You've got
883
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:22.880
all kinds of reports out of Alaska, things going in
884
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.199
out of the water. Of course they're off the coast
885
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:29.159
of San Diego, so yeah, it's and you're right it
886
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.639
does make sense that you have all us more space
887
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:34.239
there under the water than you do here on land.
888
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:37.199
And if you're trying to if you're trying to hide,
889
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:38.639
if you're trying to not be know, it makes sense,
890
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:41.239
you know, hide in the water. It's very remote, like
891
00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:45.719
you hear Antarctica, Alaska, these sorts of places as well. Yeah, yeah, what.
892
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:47.480
What's your thoughts? Do you feel like we're going to
893
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:52.159
have some sort of reveal, you know, with disclosure Day
894
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:54.119
around the corner? You think we're just saying some of
895
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:55.280
the same old, same old.
896
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:58.559
I think we're going to see Yeah, because they can't
897
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:00.639
give us, not because they came for it. Yeah, we're
898
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:03.079
gonna we're gonna have a you know, disclosure day or whatever.
899
00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:06.320
You know, we're gonna bring out the UFO files. I
900
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:09.840
think it's gonna be a lot of black lines. They'll
901
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:12.760
throw us a couple of bones, you know. It's it's
902
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:15.280
one of those like even with the congressional hearings that
903
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:19.679
we've had lately, they can't deny everything anymore like they
904
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.599
had because you know, everybody's walking around with an h
905
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:24.639
D or better camera in their pocket now with their
906
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:26.840
cell phone, So we're getting great footage. We're getting great
907
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:31.039
photos and videos ai, right, you know, yeah, and so
908
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:34.440
it's they can no longer just straight up deny. So
909
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:37.599
I think they're doing everything that they can to say, Okay, yeah,
910
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:39.440
sure there's something we can't explain, but they're gonna try
911
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:41.440
to control the narrative as best they can as long
912
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:41.800
as they.
913
00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:46.400
Yes, yes, yeah, I hope something pops. It'd be it'd
914
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:48.920
be you know, like you have like doctor Eric Davis
915
00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:53.559
sworn testimony right saying that he's aware of four beings.
916
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:57.400
So we're starting to see a little bit more. But yeah,
917
00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:00.400
even people like Paul Hellier, right, that was saying, yeah,
918
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:03.320
where there's there's aliens that governments are working with, and
919
00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:06.920
everyone's like, okay, yeah, nothing happened.
920
00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:09.280
And nothing happened. Like here we have like a you know,
921
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:12.960
top ranking government official, uh, you know, coming up and
922
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:16.760
saying yeah, there's definitely stuff and just kind of gets
923
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:17.920
swept under the rug.
924
00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:22.639
Just like about the Homeland Security guy that that's like
925
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:26.320
teleported or staying that he teleported.
926
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:30.239
Whatever. What happened with that? Yeah, another one that people
927
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:32.760
are still like, m Okay, I guess I want to
928
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:37.760
see a demonstration of the teleportation first. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah,
929
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:42.199
it's just even with with the hearings and everything lately,
930
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:44.920
you know, they only go back to cases, you know,
931
00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:47.840
like in the early two thousands, we still have seven
932
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:52.960
hundred open uh cases from Project Blue Book. What's going
933
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:53.480
on with those?
934
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:54.440
Not right?
935
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:55.320
Yeah?
936
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:59.000
Yeah, I think they're afraid to say, we don't really know, Like,
937
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:02.920
I know, there's and now they shot down I think
938
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:05.239
it was Rubio. We shot down three objects. We don't
939
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:09.079
know what they are, all these Chinese spy balloons and
940
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:13.079
then yeah, oh one of them was actually a cylindrical object.
941
00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:19.039
And so I've heard amazing stories from people, like even
942
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:23.480
two kids when we had like a big snowstorm back
943
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:26.239
and they were jumping off these big snow mounds and
944
00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:28.800
you know, jumping off the deck. And when they were
945
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:34.400
doing this, he said, a eighteen inch cylindrical object was
946
00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:36.920
spinning with floating and came and stopped was watching him
947
00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:40.559
and continue on. He goes. Now this was in the seventies. Yeah, well,
948
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:44.840
we didn't have drones and the stuff, but we were like,
949
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:45.679
what the hell is this?
950
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:52.719
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's technology, out of place, out
951
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:56.519
of time, you know, what was it doing there? So yeah,
952
00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:00.119
I think they'll throw us a couple of bones, But
953
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:01.519
I don't think they're going to give us the Holy
954
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:05.119
Grail anytime soon, not unless you have just a craft
955
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:08.519
suddenly descend and park itself on the White House lawn. Yeah,
956
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:13.159
I think they'll probably okay, yeah, yeah.
957
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:13.679
They'll still be like it's ours.
958
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:17.840
Yeah right they might. Yeah, oh yeah, we're just doing
959
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:19.960
a little just a little cosplay.
960
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:23.679
Yeah.
961
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:26.800
So I've been on a lot of different topics here.
962
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:28.760
Something I didn't want to kind of pick your brain
963
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:32.719
about is I mentioned before that I had gone through
964
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:37.199
a hypnotic regression, and you'll got some information there. Well,
965
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:42.159
Kate is a she's a QHHD practitioner. Part of what
966
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:46.079
she does is a past life regression, and she had
967
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:50.280
a client I guess it was sometime early last year
968
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:54.400
or late the year before. And within this Now, neither
969
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:59.000
of these women are into sasquatch whatsoever, but in this
970
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:02.480
woman's past life for Russian, she talked about at first
971
00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:05.559
she was in this in this tunnel and this long tunnel,
972
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:08.800
and she was traveling somewhere sort of thing, and then
973
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:12.840
when she finally came out, she was in this forest
974
00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:15.639
and you know, part of it was okay, you know,
975
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:17.800
who are you? Can you describe yourself? She's kind of
976
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:19.639
looking at herself. She's like, well, you know, I've got
977
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:21.840
got a lot of hair, you know, free hands for
978
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:25.480
your arms, looking down and she's like, I think I'm
979
00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:28.559
one of these big foot creatures. I got all this
980
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:30.199
hair all over my legs and everything.
981
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:30.960
Wow.
982
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:34.199
And yeah, it was really incredible. So it was like
983
00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:39.920
she had in this past life as a sasquatch. They
984
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:44.920
were using some sort of portal or wormhole type of
985
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:51.320
system to move in and about our world their world places. Yeah,
986
00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:52.519
it was really really cool.
987
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:55.599
So that was the tunneling she was experiencing. Was was
988
00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:58.039
that portal of some sort right?
989
00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:01.159
Yeah, yeah, it was that. So yeah, I put a
990
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:05.400
little artwork together that. Yeah, this was that was in
991
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:07.199
my That one was in my last book. But yeah,
992
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:12.360
the sasquatch using the portal. But if they if these
993
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:17.360
are actually interdimensional creatures, well again, what would they be
994
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:20.360
using to you know, move in and out of our
995
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:25.599
realm of existence? So yeah, I thought it was fascinating.
996
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:27.800
I know you've worked with a lot of the different
997
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:32.639
ideas and concepts of sasquatch and bigfoot being interdimensional rather
998
00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:36.320
than you know, some lost primate here on earth. Yeah,
999
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:38.199
but your opinion.
1000
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:42.239
That comes that comes from personal experience one to like
1001
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:45.559
the history of it and other people talking about the
1002
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:48.039
same thing that they just vanish. And I think the
1003
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:53.559
other big pieces, clairvoyant mediums and psychics that a lot.
1004
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:55.760
When I asked them that question, what is bigfoot, they
1005
00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:58.960
all come back with interdimensional. So it seems that there
1006
00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:01.719
was this common and they falls in love with the
1007
00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:04.559
Native American traditions. Most of the different tribes will say
1008
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:07.360
that they are spiritual in nature, that they can somehow
1009
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:11.880
become madder or vice versa. And again it's tough to
1010
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:15.599
understand it until you see or you hear about people
1011
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:19.920
seeing these things cloaking or invisible. So it does fall
1012
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:25.440
in line with that and the conscious aspect of it too.
1013
00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:29.960
Where you know, we had my wife was in the
1014
00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:32.960
backyard and we had something thrashing in the woods and
1015
00:55:33.039 --> 00:55:35.599
she couldn't make it out, and a rock's flying hits
1016
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:42.039
the shed, you know, and I had a telepathic communication
1017
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:44.679
with this thing by you know, not hearing anything. But
1018
00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:49.039
I went out days later after the Michigan UFO conference,
1019
00:55:49.039 --> 00:55:51.440
and you know, projecting my thoughts to ask it to
1020
00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:53.519
throw another rock at the shed because I didn't believe
1021
00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:55.800
this is what was going on, because I had a
1022
00:55:55.840 --> 00:55:58.639
friend that remote viewed as like, yeah, there's two big
1023
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:02.360
like cloaked in your bat. I'm like what. And when
1024
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:04.320
I asked for it and I didn't say it out loud,
1025
00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:06.519
this is what tripped me out is I had it
1026
00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:08.480
in my mind and I just projected and I just said,
1027
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:10.159
if this is real, throw a rock at the shed
1028
00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:14.039
right now, and I mean right effing that and then boom,
1029
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:18.559
a rock hit the shed and it was like someone
1030
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:20.880
took explained it, like a bucket of ice water being
1031
00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:22.639
dumped over my head and it went through my whole
1032
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:27.639
body like this energy like look what I just did.
1033
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:32.159
And I just remember seeing like you're in charge of
1034
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:35.320
going to bed, you know, and saying my daughter Lena
1035
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:39.320
opened up that window at the top and had said, hey,
1036
00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:42.800
you know, she screamed down. I heard that rock hit
1037
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:46.119
the shed, so I knew it wasn't just in my mind,
1038
00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:50.960
but I was like, okay, there was a consciousness connection
1039
00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:54.480
to this thing. It Actually I asked for it to
1040
00:56:54.519 --> 00:56:58.920
do it, it responded. So that's where it gets wild
1041
00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:01.639
for me is is when we start to ask these
1042
00:57:01.639 --> 00:57:05.239
things to do something, they respond and just like an
1043
00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:11.159
expedition Bigfoot in the Olympic Peninsula with us capturing the shadow.
1044
00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:13.000
And what I try to explain to people is like,
1045
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:15.639
you know, we had rocks opposite this cliff as we're
1046
00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:18.760
working down this river, falling every time we're making our
1047
00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:21.320
way down, and it was like something was on the
1048
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:24.760
edge paralleling us until I just said, hey, we know
1049
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:27.840
you're up there, show yourself already, stop, you know, and around,
1050
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:30.559
and that's when all these rocks came down and we
1051
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:34.159
turned with our flashlights and we couldn't see the being
1052
00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:38.480
with our naked eyes, but the light projected and just
1053
00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:40.119
like a shadow puppet as a kid with your hand
1054
00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:42.519
in a flashlight, it projected the shadow on the rock
1055
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:45.440
wall of the Bigfoot walking and I could see hair
1056
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:47.800
in the whole outline of the shadow. And I was like,
1057
00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:51.239
and just to be one of the one of the
1058
00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:55.679
biggest Bigfoot, you know, mecha hot spots for that to
1059
00:57:55.800 --> 00:58:00.039
happen while we're filming, to capture it on camera and
1060
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:02.960
to see that the cloaking or the inner dimensional aspect
1061
00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:06.000
of it just kept on like stacking for me that
1062
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:09.159
I was like, Okay, there's something else going on with
1063
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:11.880
these things. You know that they are, in my opinion,
1064
00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:17.400
probably higher than us on certain abilities and capabilities just
1065
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:20.239
from what I've seen with the cloaking, the telepathy, and
1066
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:23.159
what other people have described the same same stuff, and
1067
00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:26.199
even saying they have relationships with these things.
1068
00:58:26.199 --> 00:58:31.679
But I've well I've heard that one too, but yeah,
1069
00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:35.280
maybe they do. But you know, one of the one
1070
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:37.440
of the other things that came out of that that
1071
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:42.880
session that Kate had with Ellis was when when she
1072
00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:46.320
was describing what their their home was like when she
1073
00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:48.800
had gone back to their world and they had these
1074
00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:53.360
large crystals they had all this information stored within it,
1075
00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:56.400
like the knowledge of the universe stored within these crystals
1076
00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:59.400
and like this inner Earth sort of area, which was
1077
00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:02.440
really really incredible. So I mean, I'd love to get like,
1078
00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:05.920
you know, hardcore validation for it. So but right now,
1079
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:08.440
it's like, you know, I you know, I believe Kate.
1080
00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:10.800
I don't personally know Ellis, but again it's like, here
1081
00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:13.639
here's a woman that no interest in what's a weaver
1082
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:15.800
and zasquation. This is what's coming out of the session.
1083
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:19.000
So it's like, Okay, that's that's interesting. That's really interesting.
1084
00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:19.719
Definitely true.
1085
00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:22.679
Yeah, for sure, there's there's something to that, you know,
1086
00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:26.679
and and what's Interestings mentioned the crystals, and that's another
1087
00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:31.440
thing that well. Often when the gifting process, whether you know,
1088
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:33.760
I had received marbles and I talked about in the
1089
00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:37.840
first book, some dude was in the Canada was saying
1090
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:39.840
he was getting marbles gifted to him like out of
1091
00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:42.920
thin air, and I'm like, how do I do this?
1092
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:46.280
You know? And I did what he said when in
1093
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:48.760
the forest projected out loud, I want to get marbles,
1094
00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:52.480
and within a matter of a few days, in a week,
1095
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:56.280
I had three marbles that were just appeared that in
1096
00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:59.480
different settings, you know. So there they do have this
1097
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:05.559
ability to manifest things. Whether I don't understand it, but
1098
01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:09.119
the fact that it keeps on happening and to other
1099
01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:10.920
people as well, there's something to it.
1100
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:13.159
Yeah, there's definitely something there. And I know where we're
1101
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:14.840
at the end of our time here, but I want
1102
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:17.039
to I want to share this last one. It wasn't
1103
01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:20.559
with the with the Sasquatch, but it was way back
1104
01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:23.719
in the day and I'm on a paranormal investigation of
1105
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:26.280
this this house, and we believe that we were interacting
1106
01:00:26.320 --> 01:00:29.519
with uh, with the small child spirit and the one
1107
01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:34.400
guy UH that was another investigator. We're in the little
1108
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:37.960
bedroom and he put his his keys on the bend.
1109
01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:39.599
He's like, well, you can play with the keys, you know,
1110
01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:41.679
try to you know, like a trigger object sort of thing.
1111
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:44.920
And yeah, nothing's really going on. Nothing's really going on.
1112
01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:46.719
He's like, well, I'm going to leave the keys there
1113
01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:48.960
if if you want to play with them, and so,
1114
01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:51.679
you know, we go off other areas to to investigate
1115
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:56.440
some more. Well, Knight's winding down and and Chris was
1116
01:00:56.440 --> 01:00:57.760
his name. He's like, I gotta go back and get
1117
01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:01.360
my keys. The keys are gone. He's what what the
1118
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:04.000
heck happened to the keys? So he's like, I know,
1119
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:05.719
I left him here. But when we're looking all over
1120
01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:08.800
the room, we start searching like the rest of the
1121
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:12.320
house to try to find these keys. And it wasn't
1122
01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:14.800
that big of a house. It was actually quite small.
1123
01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:18.599
So I start looking amongst our you know, we had
1124
01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:23.159
some packs and bags and there was an open case
1125
01:01:23.199 --> 01:01:25.119
there where we had put equipment, and I'm looking around
1126
01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:27.079
to see if you know, something had been you know,
1127
01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:32.119
maybe got placed in there somehow. Nope, nothing, nothing, and
1128
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:34.159
it was like a little kitchen table and searcher around
1129
01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:36.400
a little bit more in the kitchen, and all of
1130
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:38.239
a sudden I hear from over in the table area
1131
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:41.880
the clink of keys because because he had well and
1132
01:01:41.960 --> 01:01:45.519
Chris had had shouted out, okay, you know, done playing around,
1133
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:47.039
I need the keys. And it was like a moment
1134
01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:49.920
later here the clink of kittens over by the table.
1135
01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:52.159
Turn around and now the keys are right there in
1136
01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:54.519
the case that I had just looked in so like
1137
01:01:54.599 --> 01:01:56.840
they weren't there, and then boom, you weren't there, and
1138
01:01:57.239 --> 01:01:59.559
he and he he was like, I'm done and I
1139
01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:01.880
need them act now we can stop playing the game,
1140
01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:07.079
and just yeah, so where where where did they go into?
1141
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:10.400
Where did they go, you know, into into the other
1142
01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:11.760
dimension or something.
1143
01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:15.000
You know, right, yeah, like and that's what blew me
1144
01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:18.840
away with the marbles too, that they they weren't there
1145
01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:22.599
like they they appeared like they manifested and they came
1146
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:27.159
from somewhere. And that's what always because my wife witnessed
1147
01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:29.920
one wasn't there, and then turn a second lander and
1148
01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:31.920
there was a marble sitting there and she was one
1149
01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:34.119
of the biggest doubters when it came to what was
1150
01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:36.159
going on, so that I was like, hey, thank you,
1151
01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:39.639
you know, but yeah, where where are they coming from?
1152
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:42.639
It seems that makes sense that there's something next door
1153
01:02:42.679 --> 01:02:44.000
that they're popping in and out of.
1154
01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:47.480
Something parallel another another, whether it's just straight up another
1155
01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:50.400
parallel universe, which we even have science now saying that
1156
01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:53.039
there's we have a parallel universe running your first time,
1157
01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:57.159
which right time, right now. But is it that or
1158
01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:00.440
is it one of these other hyperspatial dimensions up to
1159
01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:03.000
you know ten zero threw ten they're talking about, or
1160
01:03:03.079 --> 01:03:05.440
the thirty seven or you know which one is it?
1161
01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:09.679
So right, yeah, and following this, we have the after
1162
01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:12.559
show coming up. I'm actually going to feature that a
1163
01:03:12.639 --> 01:03:16.000
little bit of that clip that I was telling Ronnie
1164
01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:20.599
about with the session that Kate had with Ellis with
1165
01:03:20.679 --> 01:03:25.320
the sis. That'll be a fun listen. So all right, Ronnie,
1166
01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:28.719
I really appreciate you joining us today. So you're interdimensional
1167
01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:32.599
absolutely again. The link is down there in the description
1168
01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:35.599
for everybody grab this book. A lot of fascinating material
1169
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:38.440
is in there. And yeah, I can't wait till we
1170
01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:39.559
get a chance to hang out again.
1171
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:43.719
Same same. Yeah, I know. I'm hoping we'll be doing
1172
01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:45.719
a couple of conferences this year at least. We'll we'll
1173
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:47.960
try to connect, come see each other.
1174
01:03:48.480 --> 01:03:50.519
Yeah, yeah, I try to connect, whether it's a conference
1175
01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:52.440
or or a project. We've talked about that in the past,
1176
01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:55.559
which would be incredible. So and I hope SO do that. Yeah,
1177
01:03:55.599 --> 01:03:59.239
we definitely need it, Yeah, because you and I think
1178
01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:01.159
along up a lot of the same lines, a lot
1179
01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:02.840
of the same research that we're interested in doing.
1180
01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:03.239
Totally.
1181
01:04:03.719 --> 01:04:06.760
Yeah, So all right, my friend, appreciate it.
1182
01:04:07.440 --> 01:04:08.360
Thank you so much. Ben.
1183
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:12.400
Absolutely intent until next time time really exists
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Welcome everybody to Connecting the Universe. Some author and researcher
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Mike rick Secker back at you out of the secret
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library of the Connected Universe. Well, we have a great
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episode on tap for you today. My good friend Ronnie
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LeBlanc is with us. He's an author researcher. You guys
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will recognize him from such shows like Expedition, Bigfoot, Paranormal
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Caught on Camera, and many others. We are going to
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be talking today about his latest book, inter Dimensional Consciousness
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Cryptids in the Hidden Architecture of Reality, which explores a
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possibility that non human intelligence interacts with our world through
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consciousness itself. I'm really really looking word to this discussion.
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But just before we get into all of that, do
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you want to let those know that are listening to
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the podcast version of this later, We do invite you
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to join us live every Wednesday night, although this particular
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good to see you too. It's been a little while
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and I've had you on the show here for and
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then of course, you know, we we do a lot
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of events and things like that together. But it seems
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like it's been since maybe I don't know, last summer
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or something like that. Yeah, I've seen any I feel.
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Like it's been a year at least.
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Well, let's see, was a pair ofs icon last year? Yeah, yeah,
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I didn't. I wasn't able to do that one. I
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forget where we we saw each other. But I know
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we're texting and talking and doing doing stuff.
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But yeah, good to see you. They as good to
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see you.
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Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, and uh we always get in
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some really great conversations.
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I think it was Wisconsin last year because we've been
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out to dinner. We ended up at a at a
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bar with Aaron Seger's and we were just.
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Good times, good times. Yeah. So, you know, we have
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been in our discussions, we've been talking a lot about, uh,
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the inner dimensional universe and how that relates to things
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like cryptid sightings, UFOs, a lot of paramouml activity that
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we see and experience. So, how does your new book,
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and I'm going to pop it up on the screen here,
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how does your new book Interdimensional cover these topics.
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So my first book, Monster Land, I was talking about
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the interdimensional side of Bigfoot, and you know, people like
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John keel And and Jack Bale and Charles Ford and others,
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and so this is somewhat of an evolution of that idea,
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and I wrapped it with a bunch of my personal
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experiences that just keep on hinting that there's something else
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going on. And I always joke about it's like the
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universe seems to have some sort of an alexa that
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when you vocalize and you're putting that out there, it responds,
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and whether it's you know, through through nature. And so
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I have a bunch of these different and examples of
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that happening, whether it was me saying something or somebody
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else saying something and then boom. We have these different
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experiences where they're there with orange orbs. Ohio has been
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in the news a lot lately, which we'll talk about
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that too, the bigfoot sightings, that that kind of flap,
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that cluster that's happening in northeast Ohio. And then yeah,
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that same twenty five to thirty mile radius happening. And
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these different patterns that are that are showing themselves, whether
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the reverse here where we have cryptids and then we
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have these fireballs and everything else happening.
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first one we were the point of entry right here
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and it shook my house boom wow, which is oh
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Yeah, and did it? There was a fragment two that
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fell through someone's house I believe, I don't know if
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getting all the all the fragments. We're the point of entry,
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like Mdina County, Wayne County. Yeah, that's where they were
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getting the fragments.
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noticed with those big foot settings of the eight or so,
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they were all daytime sightings, and we know that there
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was a variety of different sizes to like from six
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it sounds like there's a bunch of different individuals that
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park South Salt Folk State Park. Yeah, I'm missing that there.
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a lot of this is happening. And that was with
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a strain orange orb softball sized light that you know,
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split into two eyes, became this bigfoot shadow eight foot
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shadows with three other people. And so that went from
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of a bigfoot that would then run across and start
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to be something intelligent behind these these orbs, what people
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even the idea of Ana Luna, you know, talking about
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how she's been briefed about the interdimensional aspect of a
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lot of these craft and that would that makes sense
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to me why we haven't had disclosure completely yet, because
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maybe these things are something more spiritual And you do
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have JD Vance talking about you know, these these things
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are demons now and we kind of goal and I'm
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just yeah, I'm like, okay, we've heard that, like we
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always fear what.
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big Foot experience, right.
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Probably, So yeah, I go into that with the book
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and the and so I try to layer in the
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personal experiences to kind of support what I'm talking about
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and then highlight some of the different things that have
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happened where you know, Italian scientists for the first time
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froze light, sending a beam of light through measuring it
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through thirty seven dimensions, the idea that our brain operates
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on eleven different dimensions. So you have all these things
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that we keep on learning more and more and it
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gets weirder and weirder. As we go.
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left me scratching my head a little bit. So I'm like, yeah,
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our theoretical physicists, because this is like a part of
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my spiel all the time, is you know, we have
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up to eleven hyperspace spatial dimensions according to theoretical physics.
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eleven where it's zero through ten, yet these guys over
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of have the metaphysical community saying, you know, it's like twelve,
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do we just not really truly know what it is
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liminal locations that are seeming to be some sort of
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that's happening around our new house, but our old house
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had pretty heavy storm that was coming through, and for
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whatever reason, I was kept on waking up at like
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two three in the morning. And the worst thing to
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do you just start looking at your phone, you doom,
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scrolling whatever, and then slowly half an hour goes by.
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to my bedroom's like two stories up. Okay, I heard
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what sounded like something landing on the roof, and it
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sounded like footsteps that ran across the roof all the
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way to the other side. And within a second all
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the power went out.
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we just lost power. Oh it's back on. And so
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it sounded weird. It sounds weird, but I heard what
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sounded like footsteps running. She goes, I did two. She
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heard it too, and she in the power and she
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the direction of the Native American burial ground. So we've
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had bigfoot activity in the backyard. There's been a VFO
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siting a couple hundred yards down the road this way.
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My wife saw one run across the road on the
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opposite side, and that's actually the inspiration for the cover
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of the book. That's what she saw was something that was.
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Which is a cool cover, by the way, Oh thank you.
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Yeah. She could see through it in a way that
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it looked like stack electricity, but she could see the outline.
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conferences and different things like that, where once they hear
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what I have experienced or some other family members or
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other people, they go, can I tell you my story?
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people in the book Indiana, Kentucky, and New York that
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described the same thing where they can see this, this outline,
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this this spiritual type of interdimensional being kind of phasing
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in and out. Yeah, and they all seem to have
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some previous paranormal or UFO experiences, So it seems to
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be like a progression of the understanding of it. And
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is not limited to we think it's just human beings.
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the idea that consciousness was here way before even humans were.
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more the case now with with what's coming out. Yeah.
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you know, scientists we're saying the Earth itself has a consciousness,
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and I got to kick out of it because you know,
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there's a part of me that is just like you know,
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we in this community, we've been talking about the Earth
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having a consciousness for you know, thousands of years, and
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it's science is finally catching up.
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Right, Yeah, this just then fruits and vegetables are good
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for you, right, right exactly.
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I do want to let people down that that are
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watching this or listening to this later. That down in
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the description, I do have a link to Ronnie's book Interdimensional,
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so definitely pick that up. Absolutely.
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to mentions before, and there was a I went through
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a hypnotic regression years ago and actually has actually put
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me into a couple now. But this was with somebody
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regression is I wanted to find out more about an
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and because I had a basically I'm an experiencer, and
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this was a bean that showed up in my room
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back at that point in time, and we were actually
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able to at that time channel the beam like in
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real time, which was fascinating. And one of the questions
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because she was asking, you know, who are you, where
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are you from those sorts of things, and the where
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are you from question was it was from another space
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really a fascinating aspect that you know, we might not
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quite understand what it is that we're dealing with, kind
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of going back to the Yeah, there's all these different
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definitions of dimensions, and then got the you know, the
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the running around on the roof. I actually, you know,
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it's kind of funny. A few years back, it was
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like a little kid right now? Because literally heard bump
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on the roof, running around just.
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get into that. That's right, that experience, big explosion, thought
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the transformer outside blew up, you know, looking out the window.
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come from. So, yeah, it seems like we are having
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these interactions with something that's around us, but isn't necessarily
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always physically here with us.
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Do you feel like we're at a place in time
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where these dimensions, these spaces, spaces like even in the
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Book of Genesis has created the worlds. And I always
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used to think planets. Yeah, but if you think of
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dimensions and stack, do you think that there's potential that
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we're actually melding between another dimension or there is something
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that's kind of bleeding through at a point where.
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Well, I mean, it's it's all a part of our universe,
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I believe, and it's all we talk about these different
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dimensions and if you kind of go from where the
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traditional of what dimensions are you know, first, second, third,
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you know, we have our three dimensional objects fourth time,
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which is where our consciousness resides, and we have our
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experiences from the fourth and we can interact with everything
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below us, the five, six, seven, eight and onward. They're
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still here there around us, but we don't have the
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geometrical capacity to see it all the time. But sometimes
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they lead into our world, like the whole idea of
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like like the story of the flat Landers. Are you
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familiar with that one?
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Sure? Sure?
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Yeah? Where there it's a it's a world on a
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two dimensional plane, but you drop like a sphere into it,
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which is a three dimensional object, and the people in
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that in that world, they they can't really experience the sphere,
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but they see the circle aspect of it. As you
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drop it in, it becomes a you know, a progressively
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bigger circle and then shrinks back down as it passes through,
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so they see a glimpse of it. And so with
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some of these different you know, whether it's you're talking
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the sas question into a you know, shadowy figure. I've
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done a lot of work for shadow people. So whether
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a shadow or an apparition or just like a little
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glimpse of something, is that something from that other dimension
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that's bleeding into ours for a hot second.
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Yeah, And what's interesting with that is there was somebody
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that was hunting in Lemonster that started experiencing what would
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be described like a puckwudgie elf type creature. And on
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several other occasions he did see a Native American appear
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with like a headdress and communicated with this thing, so
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you could hear it audibly talking and they started pointing
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at him. And he also said there was another timeframe
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where he saw what looked like a dinosaur, like a
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philosopher actor like this, like this this place was there
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was some sort of an opening there where these things
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were coming through or you're seeing from different timelines at
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that same spot. So it freaked them out. And this apparently,
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you know, engineer super smart was just terrified by all
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these experiences. Thought he was losing his mind. Yeah, and
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stopped hunting. So you wonder about these places with that
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that timeline being being shifted and things coming in and out.
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I'm just talking to somebody out of England with that
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that saw what looked like a flying dragon. You know
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that that's what he describes, Like, what the.
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That's pretty well. Have you ever been to Hinsdale House
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in New York?
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No? I have not.
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Okay, it's interesting and yeah there's stuff that goes on
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inside the house and Dan has that set up for
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as a paranormal investigative center. But I have found a
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lot more going on the land behind it, and you know,
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it's old Native American land. People have heard the drums
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out there, people have reported seeing puckuadgi type beings out
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there or another guy, my friend Sean, had been out there.
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He saw something with like antlers that was just kind
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of sitting back there. And I have it's going to
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be featured in another film that I'm working out. We
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were talking about the Stargates one earlier. Yeah, but it's uh,
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I follow up the Shadow Dimension where this is featured
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in there. And I was back there a few years
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ago and out in the distance in the woods you
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could see this bouncing blue ball of light, and we
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couldn't go all the way back there because there was
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another person's property. So we're kind of on the edge
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looking looking, and like you were talking before about things
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kind of morphing in and out of existence, and this
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was really doing that where it would get blurry and
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then all of a sudden it become really sharp and
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just bouncing around back there. We're trying to call out
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to it, you know, come closer, but it just kept
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bouncing around. So finally we gave up on it, went
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back into the house for a little bit, and then
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we decided to hang out by and he's got a
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fire pit step step back there, so we're hanging around
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the fire and then all of a sudden, from down
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out of the woods. This is late September, so it
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wasn't fireflies here. All these little blue lights and the
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ones in the air were twinkling, the ones that were
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on the ground, which is slowly morphing in and out
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of existence, and we're like down there with flashlights strying
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to see if it's like some sort of bug or what,
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and it wasn't. Yeah, it was. It was really really wild.
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So I've kind of played around with this some different
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theories on this for a while. One that all those
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little twinkling lights had been the big ball and then
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the broken apart and came down.
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The other idea, which I've been playing around with more
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recently here and this almost kind of ties into your
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your work on plasmas, because I do believe that there's
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more going on with plasmas and plasmoids, And that was
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that the portal that whatever these little lights were, these
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little beings came through, was that the portal through which
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came through to Artema to be back there at the moment.
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Man. Yeah. And what's wild too, is that it does
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seem like these things are alive, they're conscious, right, Like
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the first time I saw these two orange orbs flying
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like in tandem with each other, upon looking at them
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like these are balls of fire. Instantly seeing them, I
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got this sense that they were they were intelligent, like
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they were conscious, and I don't understand. It was almost
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like a quick download, like just looking at it and
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just knowing that this was something different. And sure enough,
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these things would start, these orbs would start showing up
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at Cape Cod and Salt Fork and different areas, and
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so there seemed to be an instant conscious connection. And
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I do recall my wife at one point when we
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early on, we had a smaller orange orb that was
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flying around in our bedroom and she was trying to
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wake me up and she couldn't get me up, and
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she felt like She's like, I felt like that was
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you finding around because I couldn't wake you up from it.
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But my other daughter Lena, who who her and I
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have had some experiences together, had seen one in her
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room and she took a picture of it, which I'm
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trying to find and it was like the spinning ball
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of fire that was She took a picture of it
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in her bedroom, like just hovering there.
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Oh wow.
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So yeah, and she was terrified of it. Of course,
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imagine seeing that as a as a kid. But it
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does seems that you know your idea that that was
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a portal almost just moving through. I wouldn't be shocked
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by that. Nothing surprises me anymore. You see you.
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See those balls of light, well with with the sasquat,
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you see them with ets, you see them. UFO saw
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them with the drone flap year and a half. A
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couple of years ago, people were reporting seeing the drones
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going in and out of these balls of light. Our
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you know, government kind of swept that under there a
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couple of months later. Yeah, it was uh government testing
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when all the government agencies before that for months had
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been saying, we don't know what's going on.
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Yeah. One of one of the mayors, I forget which township.
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In New Jersey somewhere, Yeah.
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Yeah, and he saw a white ball flight and he
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said it turned into a drone. And even one of
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the during the hearings they had with George Knapp and
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I forget the gentleman's name of that was with the
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Air Force at the time, smoking a cigarette and he
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was on the on the base Air Force base, and
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he witnessed a white ball light over the tarmac and
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it seemed to notice him and then moved over and
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then when it hovered over him, it he said that
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he goes, I'm just gonna sound where but this is
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the best way to describe it, and manifested into a
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into a triangle and so you know, you're you kind
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of go, okay, these things just simply becoming you know,
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because even with plasma, it can become you know, it
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becomes a solid. Also, it can become like a shadow too,
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righte like it can become what would be described as
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like that shadow figure. So going from a light or
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you know, and then changing that shape. I find there's
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something going on with that. And even like I think
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it was doctor Salvatore pie I forget which podcast he
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was on, he hinted at something along those lines, like, Hey,
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what if we just discovered that plasma is conscious and
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there are plasma beings living alongside us, and we just
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discovered this and they've been here this entire time and so.
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The entire time.
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Yeah, because you look at and I talked about this
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in the book, you know, like in the Book of Acts,
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when they have the tongues of fire over all of
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them and suddenly they could communicate with almost almost like
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telepathic where you had all these different languages, and then
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you have the the burning Bush with Moses and the
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Star of Bethlehem and then all these different things. We
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see it come up time and time again through different
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cultures as well.
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Yeah, you know you mentioned the burning Bush with Moses.
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I threw a video out there last year in which
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it might have been a little bit of a reach,
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but I threw it out there. What if the burning
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bush was a stargate, but I went down the whole
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route of the plasmoids that you know, he would not
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have understood, you know what a plasmoid or something like
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that would have been if it was hovering there by
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a bush wouldn't necessarily be burning the bush itself because
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the bush itself in the story never got incinerated. It
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was just right. So what if he's communicating through this
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this plasmoidal bottle of light?
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Mm hmm for sure. Yeah, and yeah, you see that.
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And now you start to see more people having those
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those things happen too, And like I, I always found
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this really interesting because of the quick connection to it.
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But I met a reiki master, like early on that
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was one of the camera operators of some show we're
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doing in New Hampshire, was like a cable access show.
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And Bill Penning, who was one of the ones that
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found this trackway and loves to state forced and I
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casted one of those prints and that's where mons Land
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started to come together. But after we're filming, she came
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up and you know, she almost had like tears in
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her eyes and she goes, they want you to know
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that you can go invisible, you can learn these different
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and go, what are you talking about? But she said,
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you know, I work with the Angelic Realms and talk
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about the White Brotherhood all these different things, and I
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was just fascinated by it when it came to like
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the Ascended Masters. But she started going through her phone
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and showing photos of these white orbs that she was
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capturing inside the house as well as outside, and she's like,
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you know, you can catch these pretty much anytime you want,
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you know, especially at night, if you go out, find
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a dark spot, shut the flash off, and announce out
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loud that you want to see him, like mentioned like
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this Alexa thing. So I think it was a couple
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days later and I was picking up my kids from
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my parents' house and they're they're all getting in the car,
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and suddenly I had this like feel like, hey, it's dark,
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it's a good spot. Let's try this, you know. So
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I took out the phone and I said it out loud.
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I you know, I said, Cheryl won't said that. You know,
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when I take a picture of you, you can show
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up and make your present stone. And so I made
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sure the flash was off and I was looking down
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the barrel of it, and I took four shots and
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just kind of took my time in different spots, but
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I trying to keep it in the same area. And
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then the fifth shot, I just decided to look away
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and I took the picture and there was a flash
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and I was like, I left. I hit the flash on.
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I was like, so I just put in my pocket
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because I didn't want to be disappointed. And I was like,
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i'll check it when I get home in like five minutes.
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So the kids run in. I pull up my phone
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and I scroll through the first four and then I
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see that fifth picture and there's a white streak like
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an orbit went straight through the campus. So you see
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00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:05.720
the street going all the way across and you can't
502
00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:07.559
tell if it's coming from this way or that way.
503
00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:12.039
Or I was like, holy crap. So I instantly texted,
504
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:15.240
or I might have been on messenger Cheryl like hey,
505
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:17.519
it worked, and I sent the picture of it and
506
00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:21.559
she goes, WHOA. She goes, I've just heard your name,
507
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:25.480
you know, five ten minutes ago from them, and she goes, typically,
508
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:28.480
they'll you know, hear a name like Jeremy or whatever,
509
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:32.119
and the lights will start flickering, so she knows it's
510
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:34.359
coming from them. In the house and she goes within
511
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:37.440
twenty four hours, that person will either call me, I'll
512
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:40.279
run into at the grocery store. So they kind of
513
00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:42.880
give me this warning about but they said your full
514
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:46.160
name and you just you just sent me a message
515
00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:47.319
like in five ten minutes, and I.
516
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:48.680
Was like whoa.
517
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:51.519
And I was like still trying to wrap my head
518
00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:53.960
around all of it, and I was like, this is wild.
519
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:59.039
And Lena again, one of my daughters, my middle daughter,
520
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:03.000
she was at the kitchen table having cereal and I
521
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:06.720
was just talking to her about it, and then suddenly
522
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:11.160
we turned to the doorway and this light being appears
523
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.240
in the doorway, shaped like a human form, bright white,
524
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:16.720
pure light, and it was like somebody turning on a
525
00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:18.680
ring light, like turning it all the way up to
526
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:21.680
the brightness that you're like, whoa. And then it quickly
527
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:25.359
as it appeared, it just disappeared. And she's just like
528
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:28.319
did you just see that? What did I go? What
529
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:31.960
did you see? And she described it exactly and I
530
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:35.799
was like, did we just get visited by an angel?
531
00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:40.279
Like like it those you know, calling it out, capturing
532
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:43.319
that her confirming you know, we're seeing that message. And
533
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:46.599
then that appearing in the house from two different locations.
534
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:48.000
That that blew my mind.
535
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:53.079
Yeah, that's that's pretty amazing. I actually just happened to
536
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:55.000
have because I have a whole slew of photos that
537
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:59.359
have just been preloaded here lighting, how is it in
538
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:02.319
comparison to this, because that's that's more of like a
539
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:05.359
shadow with the light I mean, or was it just allure.
540
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:08.920
All pure white light, like if you were to replace
541
00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:13.279
that with just white light, and it was you know,
542
00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:19.200
and again I recall just hearing about in biblical terms,
543
00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:22.119
you know, from different things the books of the Bible.
544
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:25.720
It talked about this blinding bright white light, you know
545
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:28.839
that wearing the robe or what you might describe, and
546
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:32.559
that's it gave me a feeling of it being angelic.
547
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:36.559
It gave me feeling of it being a higher evolved
548
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:41.160
being of sorts. But it definitely was like, Okay, this
549
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:44.680
was connected to all this like she's not crazy, she
550
00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:48.079
was she was talking like this is real. So that
551
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:50.440
was one of those again one of those moments where
552
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:52.680
I'm like, I need most people like you need to
553
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:55.680
have that experience for you to really accept it or
554
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:57.519
believe it. And it's still when it happened, you still
555
00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:00.160
kind of God one more time.
556
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:04.440
Because make sure let me get the phone and get
557
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:08.480
it get a photo. Yeah, that's wild. That's incredible though,
558
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:09.079
that's incredible.
559
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:09.519
Yeah.
560
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:12.920
You hear a lot of stories about people having experiences
561
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:17.000
with with light beans and that, you know, the the
562
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:19.880
beans that people keep talking about, that's what they are,
563
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:22.920
at least uh one of them are, because you hear
564
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:26.200
all kinds of different variations of different types of beans.
565
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.880
Yeah, there's a lady by name Melinda Marcnne I believe
566
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:32.880
on in New Zealand who has done a lot of
567
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:35.079
macro photography and I bring her up a lot because
568
00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:38.000
I think she's still on Facebook, has a different group,
569
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:41.640
but she started taking photos of these orbs different you
570
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:46.160
know it, but zooming in and you see entities in
571
00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:49.880
these things. Some look like elves, some look like great aliens,
572
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:55.000
some look like little people, but they are inside what
573
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.519
would be termed as a vehicle, a light vehicle, ma carbo,
574
00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:01.400
whatever you want to call it. But it's fascinating that
575
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.519
she has I think fifty, you know, a hundred of
576
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:07.039
these photos with all different types of beings that it
577
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:10.759
can't just be you know, I was playing tricks on
578
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:14.039
you kind of thing. It's it looks like real beings
579
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:16.279
in there, which is that's incredible.
580
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:20.480
Kate, my wife when she was in Scotland, she always
581
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:24.440
talked about that there was a portal in the one
582
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:26.720
room in her house there and she will show me
583
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:29.839
these photos that she had taken of like different beings
584
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:35.160
and things coming through the portal, which was absolutely incredible. Wow.
585
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:38.480
But on the note of the ORBS, I do have
586
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:40.599
a couple from her there, but I just wanted to
587
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:42.519
run through a couple of these. So, like when we
588
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:45.799
were talking about the drones, this is one of the
589
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.759
photos from that time. There's okay, yes she had drone,
590
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:51.799
but then we were seeing other photos. This one's from
591
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:56.480
a professional photographer, right, all a light. This was like
592
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:01.079
ABC or CBS, you know, it was one of the
593
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:05.799
three letter news stations, right Kate. And actually I got
594
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.640
multiple photos of this one. She had seen this one
595
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:12.680
outside of Edinburgh, Scotland. Yeah, and when you were talking
596
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:16.799
earlier about you know, changing shapes. I don't have it
597
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:19.559
loaded up here, but there was another one from Scotland
598
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:22.240
from a different angle at a different point in time
599
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:24.400
that that night caught it as more of like a
600
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:28.240
diamond shape. This one here because you're talking about orange
601
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:30.519
ball of light. This one hears really wild to me
602
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:34.759
because you can you can tell this is not just
603
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:37.759
some you know, trick of photography or what it because
604
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.640
it is inside the cloud clouds.
605
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:41.079
Yeah.
606
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:43.519
Yeah, another one that Kate kept and where was this was?
607
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:44.400
Where was this one?
608
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:48.119
This is another one from Edinburgh, Scotland. Wow, but you
609
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.519
can see the clouds wrapping around it in the glow
610
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:52.559
emanating from the clouds.
611
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:55.079
Unbelievable.
612
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:57.079
So I was wondering if that one's close to the
613
00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:58.759
orange ones that you've seen.
614
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:03.359
The ones that I've seen are they look like suns,
615
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:07.440
like really deep orange reddish And that one that looks
616
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.680
like there's I think that second photo, the yellowish one.
617
00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:16.640
Our buddy Scott Davis actually remote viewed right and and
618
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:19.680
and he said he felt like he hit like an
619
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:21.960
electrical fence and that's what he was seeing with that
620
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:24.279
when he's trying to look into the drones. And he
621
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:27.599
said he was getting like mental pressure and all the
622
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.079
all the stuff. That he had some sort of a
623
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:33.960
defense mechanism that wouldn't let him remote view it. So
624
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:37.599
it seemed to have a consciousness countermeasure to make sure
625
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:40.640
nobody could actually look into this thing. And I always
626
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:45.440
felt like, wow, that's that's definitely next level with these things.
627
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:47.839
Yeah, it really is, And you know, there was so
628
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:50.400
much more. I thought to follow up there with that
629
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:52.839
because because you, Scott and I were kind of we
630
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:56.079
were hitting on a lot of that that was going
631
00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:58.079
on at the time. And then all of a sudden,
632
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:00.519
because you know, government came out said oh it was
633
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:05.079
just testing. You stopped hearing the more formal reports, and
634
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.799
people behind the scenes were saying, hey, we're still seeing this,
635
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:11.119
but you weren't seeing a lot of that material still
636
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:13.679
being put out there to check out and investigate, which
637
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:16.360
I thought was really a disservice because there was something
638
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:17.559
that was certainly going on here.
639
00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:23.239
Yeah, and they definitely, I think, bucketed everything the drones
640
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:25.119
that people were seeing, and then people were seeing the
641
00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:29.480
spheres and these balls a light under one bucket, but
642
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:32.920
people were seeing both of those and some turning into
643
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:36.719
one or the other. So and I do remember as
644
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:40.079
soon as the mainstream media picked up, they also stopped,
645
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:43.800
and then everyone just assumed the activity stopped. But then
646
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:47.199
we were seeing reports coming out of Norway and Europe
647
00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:50.960
and bases being shut down. And I remember that was
648
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:53.320
it maybe two years or year and a half ago
649
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:58.079
that pilot commercial pilot in the UK witnessed a sphere
650
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:00.800
that looked like something at a dragon ball z come
651
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:03.079
out of the sky. It was hovering like a feet
652
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:06.880
above the tarmac before it shot up. Yeah, and you know,
653
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:11.719
you think of like the Chicago O'Hare incident. So it
654
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:16.400
definitely feels like something is amping up. I'm like, I
655
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:19.280
was expecting for them to come around the moon. Who
656
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:27.719
I'm expecting some they may have and just didn't it. Yeah, true, like.
657
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:30.159
They may have been told well when you see something like,
658
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:38.079
don't react because right yeah, yeah, right exactly.
659
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:38.440
Yeah.
660
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:42.519
It just it drove me nuts because they just the
661
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:45.599
official report was, you know, we were doing uh testing
662
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:48.320
with drones in New Jersey and yeah, that's where a
663
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:53.719
lot of the drone news and we do know that, yes,
664
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:55.920
they were setting up that that base right there by
665
00:35:55.920 --> 00:36:01.280
Scott Uh they were setting up some some drone operas there. Fine,
666
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:03.119
you know, and I did think a lot of the
667
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:06.280
drones that were being seen were actually government testing, but
668
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:08.760
it did not account for the ones that people were
669
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:12.159
seen all over the country, all over the world, right,
670
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:14.840
and then the balls of light that people were seeing.
671
00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:17.960
I loved it back then because you were talking about, look,
672
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:21.280
this has caused people to look up. People weren't looking
673
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.079
up before. When they started looking up, they started noticing
674
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:27.960
these other things. But the the government just didn't address
675
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:29.239
it at all. They were just like, oh, yeah, those
676
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:32.079
new Jersey drones were government testing and just guess we're
677
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:33.639
supposed to ignore everything else we saw.
678
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:37.639
And there was the other piece too that people had
679
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:42.559
brought up that had these personal sightings. They were saying
680
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:46.039
that when they did see some of these drones, the
681
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:49.280
sound that they were emitting, they felt like it was
682
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:54.280
manufactured sound, like it wasn't really from the object, Like
683
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:56.920
it was almost mimicking the sound of what a drone
684
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:00.159
would be. And I heard that from different people, and
685
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:03.320
I thought that was fascinating, Like it's the whole trickster
686
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.360
thing again, where these things are mimicking the technology of
687
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:09.320
the time, which right now is drones.
688
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:12.039
Well, there was one that's something and it was a
689
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:14.360
video that Scott had sent our away and it was
690
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:17.079
one that he took, so it was from his house. Yeah,
691
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:20.119
and the little little drone you got the balls of lights,
692
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:22.639
you know, going on, and it sounded like an airplane.
693
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:26.360
It's like, yes, doesn't make sense that that sounds like
694
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:27.039
an airplane.
695
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:32.280
Yes see, that's that's where. And you wonder if that's
696
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:35.360
on you know, a purpose for people to pick up
697
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:40.039
that in the something else or because I don't really
698
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:43.280
feel like they slip up too much. You know, they
699
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:45.840
always seemed with these orbs and even like some of
700
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:51.000
the tic TAC stuff where they're arriving, you know, showing
701
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:53.519
up at a place where only they know where they're
702
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:55.800
going to, you know, the cat point or whatever. Yeah,
703
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:57.840
and the things they are waiting for him like it
704
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:02.400
was already in their heads or or somehow accessed the
705
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:07.320
future to be there. So I've always found that wild
706
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:13.119
where another instance too where this was early on again,
707
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:17.119
just beaking out loud and Bill, we're out in Lumpster
708
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:20.239
State Force and we're cheking out at night and we
709
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:23.679
got it was really terrifying. We realized we're like we
710
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:26.480
were ill equipped with everything. But he pointed to this
711
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:30.199
ridgeline the furthest part of Lumpso State Force and he said,
712
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:33.360
you know, if we're going to find anything like structures
713
00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:36.599
or cave systems, and it's probably going to be in
714
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:38.519
that area because a lot of people don't go up there,
715
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:42.159
and I wouldn't be surprised. We found tracks whatever, and
716
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:44.639
we're shooting the shit a little bit more, and then
717
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:47.360
suddenly a light turned on, like somebody just flipped on
718
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:49.320
a switch. And we both turned and we see this
719
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:53.599
orange orb appeared out of nowhere in the middle of
720
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:55.760
the sky, but like low enough that we can see,
721
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:59.920
and it starts moving towards the force that he pointed to,
722
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:03.440
and I grab his arm. I'm always like, I'm like,
723
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:05.960
tell me what you're seeing right now? So I can
724
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:10.079
you know any confirmed orange or moving heading right to
725
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:12.960
the forest. And once it hit the edge of the forest,
726
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:17.000
it started going through the forest and lighting up the
727
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:19.519
whole area like headlights on a car. And it was
728
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:22.199
hovering about four feet four or five feet off the ground.
729
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:25.039
And this thing's going right to the point where he
730
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:28.719
pointed at and I just got it. I'm like no,
731
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:31.519
And it stopped and hovered over that spot and it
732
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:33.840
went right into the ground where he said we should go,
733
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:38.760
and we we didn't stick around, like we didn't go
734
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:40.320
to see it. We freaked out and get in the
735
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:44.039
car and we took off, but it was for me,
736
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:46.400
it was like a confirmation, like, yeah, you want to
737
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:50.000
see stuff come up here X marks, the orb marks,
738
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:53.119
the spark, the spot kind of things. Yeah.
739
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:58.159
Yeah, Well, what did it make sense if okay, if
740
00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:01.800
these balls a light are if they're the mode of
741
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:06.159
transportation or the portal, or they're transformative, they're the being
742
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:08.639
or the craft themselves that transform into something. I mean,
743
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:14.159
wouldn't it make sense that if you are coming from
744
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:17.079
another dimension or you're coming from another point in time
745
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:21.159
and you want to go and you know, just explore
746
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:24.880
or observe, you know, this this particular point in time
747
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:28.880
and humanity and that sort of thing that you're going
748
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:32.079
to try to for the most part, try to blend in. Right,
749
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:36.760
So would you not want your if you're sending some
750
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:40.320
sort of you know, observation craft, would you not want
751
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:43.599
it to blend into the other craft at the time,
752
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:45.760
such as drones and things like this.
753
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:48.960
Right, right, just like the mysterious you know, the mystery
754
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:53.559
airship sightings and late eighteen hundreds, early hundreds, Yeah, I
755
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:55.280
feel like, yeah, you would. You would want to kind
756
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:57.920
of come in undercover in a way. You don't want
757
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:03.519
to completely expose yourself. And I mean you've also heard
758
00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:06.000
like thing. It was like Ryan Graves, one of the
759
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:09.039
pilots who happens to be from Gardner, Mass just the
760
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:14.039
next town over, who witnessed a black cube inside a
761
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:18.559
white sphere as it flew by his fighter jet. And
762
00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:21.400
so the idea too, that are they creating this field
763
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:25.199
around them? Is that what we're seeing or is it
764
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:26.920
you know, because there's been a lot of things that
765
00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:31.519
are seen inside these orbs, you know, and like you said, too,
766
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:34.960
Ufo stuff, Bigfoot stuff, paranorma, we have orbs that go
767
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:37.679
across all of these Yeah.
768
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:39.199
Speaking of the cubes, there was a guy that I
769
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:42.079
was talking to. He had been he'd worked from some
770
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:47.280
sort of oceanography company or whatever, and he had come
771
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:52.280
to phenomenon in Utah a few years back, and he
772
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:56.639
was talking about when they were underwater that they saw
773
00:41:56.719 --> 00:42:00.280
one of these huge glowing cubes there on the bottom
774
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:04.480
of the ocean floor, which was incredible. So kind of
775
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:06.119
like Graves was seeing it in the sky, he was
776
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:07.280
seeing it on the ocean floor.
777
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:12.320
Holy cow, I feel like, I don't know, Bob Lazar,
778
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:16.519
he was just on Joe Rogan, a couple of days ago,
779
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:19.679
and I think he just revealed something along the fact
780
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:22.239
that that the sports mall that he was working on
781
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:26.960
was a archaeological underwater craft.
782
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:31.440
Okay, and so I have to watch that, and of
783
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:34.320
course as for films on I just haven't had a chance.
784
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:37.360
Yeah, and I think that's where it may have emerged from.
785
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:40.599
But we're hearing that, you know, the whole Atlantis thing
786
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:43.519
and all that is coming up in like the Bouga sphere,
787
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:46.039
which I find fascinating.
788
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:51.800
So yeah, because that you watch the footage and the
789
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:55.320
bugosphere is just kind of gliding across and then all
790
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:58.280
of a sudden something happens and it drops out of
791
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:01.800
the sky. But you know, there's no welds on this thing.
792
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:06.039
You know what in the world propelled it? Right, And
793
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:08.400
they're making claims now stuff like you know, it's it's
794
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:11.599
been gaining weight and all these other things may or
795
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:14.119
might may not be true because yeah, we haven't held
796
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:14.440
the thing.
797
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:18.159
So I do know someone that did hold it, Okay.
798
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:24.920
Josh Golmbski from from Guaya, host of Cosmic Disclosure, had
799
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:29.400
gone to the press conference in Mexico, Okay, and I
800
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:33.159
guess Stephen Stephen Greer was there and Greer's team was
801
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:37.159
filming a doc and they were filming, and I guess
802
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:39.519
Josh was like, you know, when I was going heading
803
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:41.280
to this thing, it was I thought this was a hoax,
804
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:44.719
some art project whatever. Yeah, And once I got to
805
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:48.679
the lab and the university, I could see that the
806
00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:52.679
engineers and stuff they're working on was there was something
807
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.119
to it, and the respond to the better chance and
808
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:58.360
the weight increase and all this, he goes. What really
809
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:03.079
got my attention was that there were twenty people that
810
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:07.599
were with Greer. They were all from NASA, because that
811
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:10.760
was the he goes. That's where I went, all right,
812
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:14.480
they're taking this seriously. And while he was there, there
813
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:20.079
was a an attempt by fake security guards to steal
814
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:26.119
the Bogosphere. Oh really and yeah, and they apparently they
815
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:30.079
didn't get far. Maybe they switched this thing out. But
816
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:32.679
people were saying, well, if it was one of the
817
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:36.760
three Letter agencies, they would have accomplished the goal. Yeah.
818
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:40.199
I don't know if that's always the case, but I do.
819
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:42.199
I do find it interesting that it was during that
820
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:44.880
time period where they did try to come and grab it,
821
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:49.440
and I think they had it carbon dated and it
822
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:51.639
goes back to twelve.
823
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:54.719
Results years, which is right at the end of the
824
00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:58.960
Younger dry Ass, which is the last great cataclysm.
825
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:01.760
So with that, with that fall line in your opinion
826
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:02.719
with Atlantis and.
827
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:09.519
That that's exactly at Atlantis Atlantis. Okay, So Atlantis was
828
00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:12.440
ninety six hundred BC, so that was more like eleven thousand,
829
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:16.119
six hundred years ago. But that's I mean, that's not
830
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:20.760
far off. We start talking about those types of numbers, right, yeah, and.
831
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:23.599
You yeah, you want you know, the Earth is seventy
832
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:27.079
percent water, right, We are the minority when it comes
833
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:29.039
to being the land dwellers on this planet. So you
834
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:32.559
do wonder if there's if there is a civilization that's
835
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:34.679
you know, just like the drones being seen coming out
836
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:39.159
of the water. Even Betty Andres and Luca who from
837
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:45.760
Lemonster Orange or Gray's Nordic's and she stated that she
838
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:48.440
felt when they took her she was abducted several times,
839
00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:51.239
missing time as a child and much older and I
840
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:55.440
believe her daughter, but she described being taken to a
841
00:45:55.480 --> 00:46:01.039
place that she felt was either underground or in water. Okay,
842
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:04.760
And there they've been talking now that there is some
843
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:07.559
sort of an underwater base off of the East coast
844
00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:12.119
or these these beings where wherever that may be. But
845
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:14.159
you do see a lot of the If you look
846
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:17.960
at UFO map of the the North America, you see
847
00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:21.079
all of the outskirts along the water and even the
848
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:24.559
Great Lakes where there's a huge amount of those UFO sightings.
849
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:26.079
UAP set those spots.
850
00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:31.199
So yeah, you talk like up here, Well, I'm in Cleveland,
851
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:32.679
so we have Lake Erie, but you know, kind of
852
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:35.679
around the corner there with Michigan, Lake Michigan, there have
853
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:38.480
been UFO sightings, you know, for the last one hundred
854
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:41.880
years before UFOs were popular, and they always talked about
855
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:45.719
these red lights over the lake and then go missing.
856
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:47.920
It's known as the Lake Michigan triangle. But yeah, there
857
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:50.480
were UFO sightings before UFOs were in vogue.
858
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:54.079
Right. Yeah, out here, we have a lot of reports
859
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:58.800
around reservoirs, and I think it was like phil and
860
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:03.199
Brognio years ago had looked at I think there's one
861
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:05.400
hundred and twenty four, one hundred and forty four cases
862
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:10.079
of these UFOs reported over these reservoirs and they were
863
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:16.880
all triangle craft. They were all freshwater reservoirs and like
864
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:20.920
man made reservoirs and they happened to be no more
865
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.719
than fifty feet above. And I did talk to Vermont
866
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:27.079
state trooper of thirty plus years that came to one
867
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:29.559
of my talks that said that he lives in western
868
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:32.320
mass now. And he goes, we have a view of
869
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:36.920
the reservoir from our porch. We'll have our evening cocktail
870
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:42.400
and just look out. And we saw three reddish orange
871
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:46.559
lights and a triangle formation. And when I zoned in
872
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:48.159
and looked at it was a triangle craft that was
873
00:47:48.239 --> 00:47:52.159
hovered over the reservoir. Oh well, like holy like holy crap.
874
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:56.199
I go, what happened? Like disappeared that shoot off? And
875
00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:59.000
he goes, we watched it go under the water.
876
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:00.239
Oh here.
877
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:05.360
I was like, oh, you know, like we have the
878
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.400
Baltic Sea anomaly and all these that looks like the
879
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:08.360
Millennium falcon.
880
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:11.519
Uh yeah, yeah, which is great. I mean there there
881
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:15.079
that is absolutely well intelligent. Man It could be man made,
882
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:20.480
could be otherwise, Yeah, doesn't bit. Yeah, Yeah, You've got
883
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:22.880
all kinds of reports out of Alaska, things going in
884
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.199
out of the water. Of course they're off the coast
885
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:29.159
of San Diego, so yeah, it's and you're right it
886
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.639
does make sense that you have all us more space
887
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:34.239
there under the water than you do here on land.
888
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:37.199
And if you're trying to if you're trying to hide,
889
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:38.639
if you're trying to not be know, it makes sense,
890
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:41.239
you know, hide in the water. It's very remote, like
891
00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:45.719
you hear Antarctica, Alaska, these sorts of places as well. Yeah, yeah, what.
892
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:47.480
What's your thoughts? Do you feel like we're going to
893
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:52.159
have some sort of reveal, you know, with disclosure Day
894
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:54.119
around the corner? You think we're just saying some of
895
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:55.280
the same old, same old.
896
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:58.559
I think we're going to see Yeah, because they can't
897
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:00.639
give us, not because they came for it. Yeah, we're
898
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:03.079
gonna we're gonna have a you know, disclosure day or whatever.
899
00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:06.320
You know, we're gonna bring out the UFO files. I
900
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:09.840
think it's gonna be a lot of black lines. They'll
901
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:12.760
throw us a couple of bones, you know. It's it's
902
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:15.280
one of those like even with the congressional hearings that
903
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:19.679
we've had lately, they can't deny everything anymore like they
904
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.599
had because you know, everybody's walking around with an h
905
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:24.639
D or better camera in their pocket now with their
906
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:26.840
cell phone, So we're getting great footage. We're getting great
907
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:31.039
photos and videos ai, right, you know, yeah, and so
908
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:34.440
it's they can no longer just straight up deny. So
909
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:37.599
I think they're doing everything that they can to say, Okay, yeah,
910
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:39.440
sure there's something we can't explain, but they're gonna try
911
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:41.440
to control the narrative as best they can as long
912
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:41.800
as they.
913
00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:46.400
Yes, yes, yeah, I hope something pops. It'd be it'd
914
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:48.920
be you know, like you have like doctor Eric Davis
915
00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:53.559
sworn testimony right saying that he's aware of four beings.
916
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:57.400
So we're starting to see a little bit more. But yeah,
917
00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:00.400
even people like Paul Hellier, right, that was saying, yeah,
918
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:03.320
where there's there's aliens that governments are working with, and
919
00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:06.920
everyone's like, okay, yeah, nothing happened.
920
00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:09.280
And nothing happened. Like here we have like a you know,
921
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:12.960
top ranking government official, uh, you know, coming up and
922
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:16.760
saying yeah, there's definitely stuff and just kind of gets
923
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:17.920
swept under the rug.
924
00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:22.639
Just like about the Homeland Security guy that that's like
925
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:26.320
teleported or staying that he teleported.
926
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:30.239
Whatever. What happened with that? Yeah, another one that people
927
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:32.760
are still like, m Okay, I guess I want to
928
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:37.760
see a demonstration of the teleportation first. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah,
929
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:42.199
it's just even with with the hearings and everything lately,
930
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:44.920
you know, they only go back to cases, you know,
931
00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:47.840
like in the early two thousands, we still have seven
932
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:52.960
hundred open uh cases from Project Blue Book. What's going
933
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:53.480
on with those?
934
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:54.440
Not right?
935
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:55.320
Yeah?
936
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:59.000
Yeah, I think they're afraid to say, we don't really know, Like,
937
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:02.920
I know, there's and now they shot down I think
938
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:05.239
it was Rubio. We shot down three objects. We don't
939
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:09.079
know what they are, all these Chinese spy balloons and
940
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:13.079
then yeah, oh one of them was actually a cylindrical object.
941
00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:19.039
And so I've heard amazing stories from people, like even
942
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:23.480
two kids when we had like a big snowstorm back
943
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:26.239
and they were jumping off these big snow mounds and
944
00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:28.800
you know, jumping off the deck. And when they were
945
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:34.400
doing this, he said, a eighteen inch cylindrical object was
946
00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:36.920
spinning with floating and came and stopped was watching him
947
00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:40.559
and continue on. He goes. Now this was in the seventies. Yeah, well,
948
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:44.840
we didn't have drones and the stuff, but we were like,
949
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:45.679
what the hell is this?
950
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:52.719
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's technology, out of place, out
951
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:56.519
of time, you know, what was it doing there? So yeah,
952
00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:00.119
I think they'll throw us a couple of bones, But
953
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:01.519
I don't think they're going to give us the Holy
954
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:05.119
Grail anytime soon, not unless you have just a craft
955
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:08.519
suddenly descend and park itself on the White House lawn. Yeah,
956
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:13.159
I think they'll probably okay, yeah, yeah.
957
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:13.679
They'll still be like it's ours.
958
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:17.840
Yeah right they might. Yeah, oh yeah, we're just doing
959
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:19.960
a little just a little cosplay.
960
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:23.679
Yeah.
961
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:26.800
So I've been on a lot of different topics here.
962
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:28.760
Something I didn't want to kind of pick your brain
963
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:32.719
about is I mentioned before that I had gone through
964
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:37.199
a hypnotic regression, and you'll got some information there. Well,
965
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:42.159
Kate is a she's a QHHD practitioner. Part of what
966
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:46.079
she does is a past life regression, and she had
967
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:50.280
a client I guess it was sometime early last year
968
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:54.400
or late the year before. And within this Now, neither
969
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:59.000
of these women are into sasquatch whatsoever, but in this
970
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:02.480
woman's past life for Russian, she talked about at first
971
00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:05.559
she was in this in this tunnel and this long tunnel,
972
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:08.800
and she was traveling somewhere sort of thing, and then
973
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:12.840
when she finally came out, she was in this forest
974
00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:15.639
and you know, part of it was okay, you know,
975
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:17.800
who are you? Can you describe yourself? She's kind of
976
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:19.639
looking at herself. She's like, well, you know, I've got
977
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:21.840
got a lot of hair, you know, free hands for
978
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:25.480
your arms, looking down and she's like, I think I'm
979
00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:28.559
one of these big foot creatures. I got all this
980
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:30.199
hair all over my legs and everything.
981
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:30.960
Wow.
982
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:34.199
And yeah, it was really incredible. So it was like
983
00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:39.920
she had in this past life as a sasquatch. They
984
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:44.920
were using some sort of portal or wormhole type of
985
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:51.320
system to move in and about our world their world places. Yeah,
986
00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:52.519
it was really really cool.
987
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:55.599
So that was the tunneling she was experiencing. Was was
988
00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:58.039
that portal of some sort right?
989
00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:01.159
Yeah, yeah, it was that. So yeah, I put a
990
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:05.400
little artwork together that. Yeah, this was that was in
991
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:07.199
my That one was in my last book. But yeah,
992
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:12.360
the sasquatch using the portal. But if they if these
993
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:17.360
are actually interdimensional creatures, well again, what would they be
994
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:20.360
using to you know, move in and out of our
995
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:25.599
realm of existence? So yeah, I thought it was fascinating.
996
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:27.800
I know you've worked with a lot of the different
997
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:32.639
ideas and concepts of sasquatch and bigfoot being interdimensional rather
998
00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:36.320
than you know, some lost primate here on earth. Yeah,
999
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:38.199
but your opinion.
1000
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:42.239
That comes that comes from personal experience one to like
1001
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:45.559
the history of it and other people talking about the
1002
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:48.039
same thing that they just vanish. And I think the
1003
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:53.559
other big pieces, clairvoyant mediums and psychics that a lot.
1004
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:55.760
When I asked them that question, what is bigfoot, they
1005
00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:58.960
all come back with interdimensional. So it seems that there
1006
00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:01.719
was this common and they falls in love with the
1007
00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:04.559
Native American traditions. Most of the different tribes will say
1008
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:07.360
that they are spiritual in nature, that they can somehow
1009
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:11.880
become madder or vice versa. And again it's tough to
1010
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:15.599
understand it until you see or you hear about people
1011
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:19.920
seeing these things cloaking or invisible. So it does fall
1012
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:25.440
in line with that and the conscious aspect of it too.
1013
00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:29.960
Where you know, we had my wife was in the
1014
00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:32.960
backyard and we had something thrashing in the woods and
1015
00:55:33.039 --> 00:55:35.599
she couldn't make it out, and a rock's flying hits
1016
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:42.039
the shed, you know, and I had a telepathic communication
1017
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:44.679
with this thing by you know, not hearing anything. But
1018
00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:49.039
I went out days later after the Michigan UFO conference,
1019
00:55:49.039 --> 00:55:51.440
and you know, projecting my thoughts to ask it to
1020
00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:53.519
throw another rock at the shed because I didn't believe
1021
00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:55.800
this is what was going on, because I had a
1022
00:55:55.840 --> 00:55:58.639
friend that remote viewed as like, yeah, there's two big
1023
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:02.360
like cloaked in your bat. I'm like what. And when
1024
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:04.320
I asked for it and I didn't say it out loud,
1025
00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:06.519
this is what tripped me out is I had it
1026
00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:08.480
in my mind and I just projected and I just said,
1027
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:10.159
if this is real, throw a rock at the shed
1028
00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:14.039
right now, and I mean right effing that and then boom,
1029
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:18.559
a rock hit the shed and it was like someone
1030
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:20.880
took explained it, like a bucket of ice water being
1031
00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:22.639
dumped over my head and it went through my whole
1032
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:27.639
body like this energy like look what I just did.
1033
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:32.159
And I just remember seeing like you're in charge of
1034
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:35.320
going to bed, you know, and saying my daughter Lena
1035
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:39.320
opened up that window at the top and had said, hey,
1036
00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:42.800
you know, she screamed down. I heard that rock hit
1037
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:46.119
the shed, so I knew it wasn't just in my mind,
1038
00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:50.960
but I was like, okay, there was a consciousness connection
1039
00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:54.480
to this thing. It Actually I asked for it to
1040
00:56:54.519 --> 00:56:58.920
do it, it responded. So that's where it gets wild
1041
00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:01.639
for me is is when we start to ask these
1042
00:57:01.639 --> 00:57:05.239
things to do something, they respond and just like an
1043
00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:11.159
expedition Bigfoot in the Olympic Peninsula with us capturing the shadow.
1044
00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:13.000
And what I try to explain to people is like,
1045
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:15.639
you know, we had rocks opposite this cliff as we're
1046
00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:18.760
working down this river, falling every time we're making our
1047
00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:21.320
way down, and it was like something was on the
1048
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:24.760
edge paralleling us until I just said, hey, we know
1049
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:27.840
you're up there, show yourself already, stop, you know, and around,
1050
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:30.559
and that's when all these rocks came down and we
1051
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:34.159
turned with our flashlights and we couldn't see the being
1052
00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:38.480
with our naked eyes, but the light projected and just
1053
00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:40.119
like a shadow puppet as a kid with your hand
1054
00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:42.519
in a flashlight, it projected the shadow on the rock
1055
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:45.440
wall of the Bigfoot walking and I could see hair
1056
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:47.800
in the whole outline of the shadow. And I was like,
1057
00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:51.239
and just to be one of the one of the
1058
00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:55.679
biggest Bigfoot, you know, mecha hot spots for that to
1059
00:57:55.800 --> 00:58:00.039
happen while we're filming, to capture it on camera and
1060
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:02.960
to see that the cloaking or the inner dimensional aspect
1061
00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:06.000
of it just kept on like stacking for me that
1062
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:09.159
I was like, Okay, there's something else going on with
1063
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:11.880
these things. You know that they are, in my opinion,
1064
00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:17.400
probably higher than us on certain abilities and capabilities just
1065
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:20.239
from what I've seen with the cloaking, the telepathy, and
1066
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:23.159
what other people have described the same same stuff, and
1067
00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:26.199
even saying they have relationships with these things.
1068
00:58:26.199 --> 00:58:31.679
But I've well I've heard that one too, but yeah,
1069
00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:35.280
maybe they do. But you know, one of the one
1070
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:37.440
of the other things that came out of that that
1071
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:42.880
session that Kate had with Ellis was when when she
1072
00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:46.320
was describing what their their home was like when she
1073
00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:48.800
had gone back to their world and they had these
1074
00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:53.360
large crystals they had all this information stored within it,
1075
00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:56.400
like the knowledge of the universe stored within these crystals
1076
00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:59.400
and like this inner Earth sort of area, which was
1077
00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:02.440
really really incredible. So I mean, I'd love to get like,
1078
00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:05.920
you know, hardcore validation for it. So but right now,
1079
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:08.440
it's like, you know, I you know, I believe Kate.
1080
00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:10.800
I don't personally know Ellis, but again it's like, here
1081
00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:13.639
here's a woman that no interest in what's a weaver
1082
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:15.800
and zasquation. This is what's coming out of the session.
1083
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:19.000
So it's like, Okay, that's that's interesting. That's really interesting.
1084
00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:19.719
Definitely true.
1085
00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:22.679
Yeah, for sure, there's there's something to that, you know,
1086
00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:26.679
and and what's Interestings mentioned the crystals, and that's another
1087
00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:31.440
thing that well. Often when the gifting process, whether you know,
1088
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:33.760
I had received marbles and I talked about in the
1089
00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:37.840
first book, some dude was in the Canada was saying
1090
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:39.840
he was getting marbles gifted to him like out of
1091
00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:42.920
thin air, and I'm like, how do I do this?
1092
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:46.280
You know? And I did what he said when in
1093
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:48.760
the forest projected out loud, I want to get marbles,
1094
00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:52.480
and within a matter of a few days, in a week,
1095
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:56.280
I had three marbles that were just appeared that in
1096
00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:59.480
different settings, you know. So there they do have this
1097
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:05.559
ability to manifest things. Whether I don't understand it, but
1098
01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:09.119
the fact that it keeps on happening and to other
1099
01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:10.920
people as well, there's something to it.
1100
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:13.159
Yeah, there's definitely something there. And I know where we're
1101
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:14.840
at the end of our time here, but I want
1102
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:17.039
to I want to share this last one. It wasn't
1103
01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:20.559
with the with the Sasquatch, but it was way back
1104
01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:23.719
in the day and I'm on a paranormal investigation of
1105
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:26.280
this this house, and we believe that we were interacting
1106
01:00:26.320 --> 01:00:29.519
with uh, with the small child spirit and the one
1107
01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:34.400
guy UH that was another investigator. We're in the little
1108
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:37.960
bedroom and he put his his keys on the bend.
1109
01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:39.599
He's like, well, you can play with the keys, you know,
1110
01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:41.679
try to you know, like a trigger object sort of thing.
1111
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:44.920
And yeah, nothing's really going on. Nothing's really going on.
1112
01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:46.719
He's like, well, I'm going to leave the keys there
1113
01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:48.960
if if you want to play with them, and so,
1114
01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:51.679
you know, we go off other areas to to investigate
1115
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:56.440
some more. Well, Knight's winding down and and Chris was
1116
01:00:56.440 --> 01:00:57.760
his name. He's like, I gotta go back and get
1117
01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:01.360
my keys. The keys are gone. He's what what the
1118
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:04.000
heck happened to the keys? So he's like, I know,
1119
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:05.719
I left him here. But when we're looking all over
1120
01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:08.800
the room, we start searching like the rest of the
1121
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:12.320
house to try to find these keys. And it wasn't
1122
01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:14.800
that big of a house. It was actually quite small.
1123
01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:18.599
So I start looking amongst our you know, we had
1124
01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:23.159
some packs and bags and there was an open case
1125
01:01:23.199 --> 01:01:25.119
there where we had put equipment, and I'm looking around
1126
01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:27.079
to see if you know, something had been you know,
1127
01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:32.119
maybe got placed in there somehow. Nope, nothing, nothing, and
1128
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:34.159
it was like a little kitchen table and searcher around
1129
01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:36.400
a little bit more in the kitchen, and all of
1130
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:38.239
a sudden I hear from over in the table area
1131
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:41.880
the clink of keys because because he had well and
1132
01:01:41.960 --> 01:01:45.519
Chris had had shouted out, okay, you know, done playing around,
1133
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:47.039
I need the keys. And it was like a moment
1134
01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:49.920
later here the clink of kittens over by the table.
1135
01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:52.159
Turn around and now the keys are right there in
1136
01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:54.519
the case that I had just looked in so like
1137
01:01:54.599 --> 01:01:56.840
they weren't there, and then boom, you weren't there, and
1138
01:01:57.239 --> 01:01:59.559
he and he he was like, I'm done and I
1139
01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:01.880
need them act now we can stop playing the game,
1140
01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:07.079
and just yeah, so where where where did they go into?
1141
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:10.400
Where did they go, you know, into into the other
1142
01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:11.760
dimension or something.
1143
01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:15.000
You know, right, yeah, like and that's what blew me
1144
01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:18.840
away with the marbles too, that they they weren't there
1145
01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:22.599
like they they appeared like they manifested and they came
1146
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:27.159
from somewhere. And that's what always because my wife witnessed
1147
01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:29.920
one wasn't there, and then turn a second lander and
1148
01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:31.920
there was a marble sitting there and she was one
1149
01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:34.119
of the biggest doubters when it came to what was
1150
01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:36.159
going on, so that I was like, hey, thank you,
1151
01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:39.639
you know, but yeah, where where are they coming from?
1152
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:42.639
It seems that makes sense that there's something next door
1153
01:02:42.679 --> 01:02:44.000
that they're popping in and out of.
1154
01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:47.480
Something parallel another another, whether it's just straight up another
1155
01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:50.400
parallel universe, which we even have science now saying that
1156
01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:53.039
there's we have a parallel universe running your first time,
1157
01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:57.159
which right time, right now. But is it that or
1158
01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:00.440
is it one of these other hyperspatial dimensions up to
1159
01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:03.000
you know ten zero threw ten they're talking about, or
1160
01:03:03.079 --> 01:03:05.440
the thirty seven or you know which one is it?
1161
01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:09.679
So right, yeah, and following this, we have the after
1162
01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:12.559
show coming up. I'm actually going to feature that a
1163
01:03:12.639 --> 01:03:16.000
little bit of that clip that I was telling Ronnie
1164
01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:20.599
about with the session that Kate had with Ellis with
1165
01:03:20.679 --> 01:03:25.320
the sis. That'll be a fun listen. So all right, Ronnie,
1166
01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:28.719
I really appreciate you joining us today. So you're interdimensional
1167
01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:32.599
absolutely again. The link is down there in the description
1168
01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:35.599
for everybody grab this book. A lot of fascinating material
1169
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:38.440
is in there. And yeah, I can't wait till we
1170
01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:39.559
get a chance to hang out again.
1171
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:43.719
Same same. Yeah, I know. I'm hoping we'll be doing
1172
01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:45.719
a couple of conferences this year at least. We'll we'll
1173
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:47.960
try to connect, come see each other.
1174
01:03:48.480 --> 01:03:50.519
Yeah, yeah, I try to connect, whether it's a conference
1175
01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:52.440
or or a project. We've talked about that in the past,
1176
01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:55.559
which would be incredible. So and I hope SO do that. Yeah,
1177
01:03:55.599 --> 01:03:59.239
we definitely need it, Yeah, because you and I think
1178
01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:01.159
along up a lot of the same lines, a lot
1179
01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:02.840
of the same research that we're interested in doing.
1180
01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:03.239
Totally.
1181
01:04:03.719 --> 01:04:06.760
Yeah, So all right, my friend, appreciate it.
1182
01:04:07.440 --> 01:04:08.360
Thank you so much. Ben.
1183
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:12.400
Absolutely intent until next time time really exists