Grant Morrison and Liam Sharp talk (Green) Lanterns

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Hey, everybody, welcome back time again for Word Balloon, the
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Comicpo conversation show. John suntris here. Wow, Damon Lindelough have
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certainly made news. Unfortunately with the Lantern trailer coming out,
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suddenly people found, you know, they they scurry on the
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internet and they found this quote of him on a
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comedy podcast where he set out, we're calling it Lanterns
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and not Green Lanterns on HBO for the mini series
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because you know Green Lantern.
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You know.
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Oops, everybody went nuts, including Graham Morrison, and yeah, great.
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Grant speaks from a position of experience. He's written green
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Land several times over the years, had a fantastic run
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with Liam Sharp on Green Lantern a couple of years ago,
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so much so that I thought it'd be fun to
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represent that, to kind of underline that Grant Morrison knows
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what he's talking about. When it comes to Hal Jordan
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and Sector twenty eight fourteen. I think it's twenty eight
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fourteen and Green Lannard. Maybe I'm like Damon Lindelot.
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I don't think so.
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But this is great conversation with Grant and Liam Sharp
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about their time with the Space Cops, the Green Lantern
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Corps are really more specifically Al Jordan and Green Lantern.
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Balloon, Liam Shark, Grant Morrison, Welcome the word Balloon guys. Seriously,
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thank you very much for doing this long time coming
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talking to you both, and thank you for being here.
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Pleasure.
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Thank you.
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I must ask going back to you know, just you
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guys getting together on this project, like you know, how
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did you two find each other? You know, Grant them,
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assuming the idea started with you. But while later well again.
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We found each other like twenty or thirty years ago,
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you know, going back to the old days of the
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British comics seeing excuse me, but we just never found
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to work on and we kept kind of bumping into
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each other. It just got more and more like it
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was really obvious the universe was pushing us into zooms
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to get so we just kind of have to talk
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about doing something. And it really just got to the
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point where, hey, we're meeting up every six months now,
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it's becoming more and more ridiculous. It's like, you know,
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the Buck's law of increasing increasing frequency. So it kind
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of got to that that kind of point of no return.
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And then Dan the Dale at dinner, of which he
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used to do to me often, was pitched something say,
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we enjoyed to do cream Land And I'd been a
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totally not interested, not interested, but what if he did this?
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And then he said joyed to do it with Leam
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and I go, okay, that would be that could be cool.
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So kind of from my side of it, it came
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from there, and I'm it wouldn't take on it, but
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that's that's that's how I got involved in it. He
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streams family coursed.
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Yeah, mine's mine's pretty much the same. As it sort
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of reached critical mass and we and we just kept
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banging into each other. It was it was, it was,
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it was inevitable.
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Collision, wasn't I had to I had to lead to
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an atomic.
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Explosives literally life as we knew it was in danger.
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We didn't work together, so you know, there would have
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been an implosion.
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Well this is this is meant as a compliment. I
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hope you guys ticket as such, but uh, you guys
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have taken Green Lantern to kind of a heavy metal
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magazine level. I remember as a kid being blown away
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seeing the designs that you know, the great artists like
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Yo Kane would give to the poor, and the crazy
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ideas of various you know, planets represented, the aliens represented,
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and truly, I think you guys are taking it to
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a new level. So tell me about collect like there
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are new legends as well as maybe lentends. We hadn't
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seen it yet.
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Yeah, well a lot of the stuff, you know, Yeah,
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from my side of it, I'll go back and look
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at you know, I kind of like the idea of
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it takes place in the DC universe, so let's kind
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of consolidate that. So I'll go and find goofy Lucan
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aliens from nineteen fifty stories or from ninety super Bullying
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the Ravers, and we saw things like that in there.
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Of what William's really brilliant and there's very few artists
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and lastly, who are just really great at doing creatures
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and aliens and you know, alien environments. So we take
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advantage of that as well. And there's a whole bunch
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of new characters I think, you know, and characters that
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Liam really brought to life by thinking them food. But yeah,
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it's been, it's been for me. It's a mix of
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of trying to make it feel like I lived in
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worn out DC unit. Therefore you may catch, say of
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a character from Steened Adventures in nineteen sixty, or you
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may catch, say of a character from you know, like
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some Superman curse over in two thousand. So it's a
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mix of both often and I think, like a say,
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Alien's got the facility for creating environments and creatures and aliens.
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That's newly it's really.
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Unique now man, thanks Grant. It's it is something I
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get a lot of pleasure off. And I think some
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of that comes from my sort of training with Don Lawrence,
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who was a master of imaginative world building. But I
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always like the but again because of that, you know,
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my influence has come from Europe and England and America.
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And Grant said at the beginning, it's almost like, you know,
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American comics, European comics and English comics got together and
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had a threesome, and this is the strange hybrid offspring
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of all of those different.
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I'm sorry I had to reduce it to that, but yeah.
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But it's so it's so spot on it so on
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the nows.
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Was was was Volcal is Volcal a new character the volcano?
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Let well, no, he's it's no, he's he's and he
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was a guy created by them you wanted to take up.
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And he's created by by Kevin O'Neill, I believe in Mike.
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Was it one or the other ones?
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Yeah, it was keV. It was Kev's version that I
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saw first. So it was great when when he appeared
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in it. But we did talk about it might have been.
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Joe stating, I mean, I don't know. I want to
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make sure everyone gets the ju but it was it
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was from that year. I just loved the design. I
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love the Crazy Lands. You know that first story for
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Gil Caine does the vegetable guy and he does the
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crystal the first thing you'd seen those those alien lanterns,
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and I just love that aspect of the series where
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you have he's completely alien characters, and they bring so
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much to it in terms of character and design.
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Yeah, when I first drew him, he had that he
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had the cloud head, and my wife came in and
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started chuckling and said, I love his face, and I said,
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what face? I got a face book in the cloud
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and I saw it and said, oh my god. Han
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intended it, but that's how he broke the face about
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it and grunts and I just imagine the concentration it
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takes to keep that little face on the cloud.
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He's working hard as all of semi nuclear process. I
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loved it as well because people would see, what what,
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what the hell is this? How could these these guys
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are nuts, are on my how could they come up
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with a character, And we just kind of this is
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the lower this is, this is the universe was inherited
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and it filled really weird characters and always going to
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bring some of them to the four and then create
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the ones that we think fit anyway that we are
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going to imaginate.
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Feel the Flafe riders in of the Door and the
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next issue as well. I was given them extra sort
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of link joints and limbs and stuff, and I love
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granted say, I look back at the original versions because
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they were they're wearing like shorts, they dressed like scales
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and you look at the characters, how did you come
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up with his characters a little bit cap on and shorts,
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And he's like, you do that?
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These kind of like deck chair boys and the cruise
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liner and and you know, I think, I think that's
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much creeper and much more nightmas. And they kind of
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bulked up Kanja Row and the Dorians later with a big,
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big ass kind of shark looking guys. But the original P. P.
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Croley versions were better, so I think, you know, we
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went back to those and then developed him like like
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we said, give him, give him more limb joints, give
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him more knees than normal. And it plays up that
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aspect of it. But I think also those ideas for
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some of the just goosey old designed if you can't
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see you, if you can think, no, this is anything culture,
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this is this is the art, this is the weird decks.
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I would be weird dick shots. Who knows, but it
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kind of gives the real feeling of of ilienness.
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I think, you know, yeah, yeah, well it's you go
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only and by on it Oh no.
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Just it's just I laughed so hard during that issue
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that all the all the fingers. The extra thing is
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the extra joints. You can sort of see them constantly
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riding and their eyes sort of shutting, and as with
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those sideways, and there's just so many things like you
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had a kind of squidward feel as well. It's just
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it's funny, you know. But that's part of the joy
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of this whole book is every issue I get something
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to laugh at and something to be inspired by that's
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kind of epic and soaring, and something to think about
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and something you know that that that it's just a
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thrill to draw. You know that that really pulls you
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into the world building side of it as well. And
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that's pretty much across every issue. So it's a complete
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kind of joy to do, you know.
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And yet at the same time, I loved again another comparison,
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the hush feel to this story because you're certainly calling
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back on, you know, bringing you know, great gl team
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up characters like Ali obviously Green Arrow, the parallel version
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of Carol Ferris and Star Sarah Sapphire, and then also
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just the way you guys are really going for these
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great characters that we haven't seen in a couple of
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years beyond. I mean, like you said, the Vegetable Lantern. Absolutely,
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but some of the other guest stars that are maybe
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sea level characters in the DC interests but have great designs.
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It's great to see him back, and.
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That's what we'd like to do that. You know, it's
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part of the front is that is a universe and
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it's kind of coherent and history, so there's a lot
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of stuff to draw on. And I always find that
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the stuff that's been over Luke CLIs and moved into
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him because you can. You can bring more too, you know,
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and so much of the methilis made, so you have
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to look in really older places to find things that
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all that sparked the imagination in different ways.
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Yeah, I think you get to play more with characters
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like that. You're not treading on so many toes, so
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you can be really, uh, you know, wild with with
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your interpretations.
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I loved Lamb your your new design for airwaves. I
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loved airwaves. He hit me at the right time as
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a kid, I didn't do that one. Oh excuse me,
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I see there you go the runners doubbles. Well, then, Grant,
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I appreciate you bringing her way into the story because.
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You're welcome.
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Yeah, name check, name check the artist for me, grant.
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Shame on me for not doing it properly.
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You're making it work for me.
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Sorry. Well, then I'll correct it in the post.
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I can pay with the name name.
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Well all right, I'll continue to say how much I
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love but I love that character. I mean I remember
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him get starring in Superman and uh, you know him
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him remembering all the lessons he learned from older heroes,
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not only to me.
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Sansy common cooling story.
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That's all right, buddy, No, no, no, you.
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Know yeah, but no, no, I just found way he
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goes old kind of characters who hung up to the
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coronas and still have the costumes and they haven't done
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anything so way, because like Williams said, you can you
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can do things with them. You can you can more
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than them in ways that really a corny characters can
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really be more.
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Than well and also just the idea of that, uh
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the story kind of ending back at home and where
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you take how from being uncomfortable on Earth obviously much
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more comfortable in his role as Greenland and space cop
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and then having to face this final story of your
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first well, you know, twelve issues or tennishues. Excuse me,
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I think twelve issues, but yeah, bringing it back home
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and having to solve a problem, and that the Jordan
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family had to solve it.
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Yeah, and then the story, I mean, the jewel in
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the story was that they were just having to make up.
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They were having to make up a ridiculous two to
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explain to the patents. And I went to the shoe.
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You know how How's always going to say to the kids,
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He's just he's an inconformance for anyone those things. He's
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that guy. So he's going to say to the kids,
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and he's in the attention, he's looking up some bullshit
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to fill the peen.
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Outstanding that well, and then uh, you know, against the
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Parallel Lanterns, I love, you know, just that whole you
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know earth of that. The Justice League basically and other
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characters are all green lanterns and stuff. Now, was that
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in multiplicity No, I mean it was kind.
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Of hinted out. And there's a lot of different green
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lanterns and different worlds because we've seen a bunch of
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them and there's a bunch of other ones. So it
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was just a case of putting them all together. I
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always had this big idea of a green lantern from
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across the multiverse, a kind of extension of the of
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the name Core. So it was just that. But yeah,
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the Carol character, she's back in season two, the kind
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of alternate Carol. Right, they've got this three way intoesting
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kind of Shakespearean I'll call it Shakespearean only in the
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sense it's a case of a lot of different mistaken
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identities and doubles crossing over. But yeah, she's she's coming back.
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We like that character.
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Yeah, I love the Magic Lantern was so much fun
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in particular, and he of all the cosplays that's been
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inspired by this particular run, he's the one I've seen
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my stuff, and.
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a guys, he's so easy.
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To do.
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Asolutely Magic Lantern. I think half the people that it
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had conventions just you know, let their hair go a
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little bit longer and maybe not clean their glasses, and
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you got Magic Lantern. I love it. I love it,
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you know, Grant, Honestly, that is such a quintessential Grand
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Morrison character. Magic Lantern. I I I'm not surprised that
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when when he appeared, it was like there we go,
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you know, I mean you were already you already had
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it to the Grand Morrison state of mind. But man,
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when Magic Lantern showed up, it was like, oh, that's
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there we go.
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Yeah, well, I mean he he he, he stopped to
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the way by when I first when I was doing
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Animal Mine and Magic Ronson first comed up there. So
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it was kind of a know a to the Lady
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Fuss story and this is kind of the last you know,
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monthly I'm likely to do with there was there's an
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intention to to to those threads together because he's doing
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he didn't at least for a long time, doing very.
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Less read come on camera books. Then you forget about
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things like that go on there.
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Now his relationship with with the Batlands and those two
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you know whole like Batman's are dicking everything.
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Absolutely rare and you know, well and going into the
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news story and stuff. Now the young audience, so now
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we have owens of a different kind and certainly take
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a different take than the the old stand back.
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Yeah, absolutely, Kenne digging into that. The stuff that I'm
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right now, which comes halfway through the season, is really
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digging into that and what the differences are and the
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friction that that can cause. But yeah, the housing for
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a bad time as we get towards the middle of
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the second season, so that's the only part of it,
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you know, his troubles if they will become mm hmm.
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Yeah. The second season is really I mean, we had
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a lot of fun playing with the stylistic ticks between
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sort of each issue, and because the mood of every
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issue has been so different. You know, you might go
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from like horror to classic sci fi from the sixties
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to you know, any other more of a seventies vibe
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or whatever. There's so many different feels and tones, and
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we had a lot of fun sort of playing with
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that in the first season, and we're doing that even
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more in the second season. So it's really sort of
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swinging like that. The that the almost Doctor who by
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one was with the a IFO people on the planet
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and that that just came out was a lot of fun.
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But that first issue was, oh my god, that was
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I nearly broke myself drawing that thirty page opener of
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the season. I thought I was going to try and
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do less detail for the second season, and I read
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the script is like, damn it, I know I'm going
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to go crazy on the detail on this one, you know,
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with that creak with the spread with me and Grant
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sitting at the bar and bottom left corner, but behind
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us are all these characters. You know, just just there's
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a little thing.
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You know, you've got to commend swinging baggers on season two,
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so there's no we have to do it.
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Well, you're saying again, I miss that camera.
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Yeah, I mean, as William said that. William said the
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first the first half the season two, they're all very
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Each story is kind of stand alone, and they're all
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quite exped them into whether they are or the rating,
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and I kind of love them, you know. And then
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then after that well run of stories, it gets you
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will play vessel, which I'm excited against more and more
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vessel as the story is produced, but it kind of
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goes in a direct medal thing anymore, expace.
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I congratuate you guys for finding new things to do
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with Greenland, because truly, I think and and everything that
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Jeff Johns brought in expanding the core and getting into
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the different colored rings and stuff like that, and you know,
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all of the books that were born from that. Again,
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I can appreciate, you know, any any writer artists coming
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in and going, well, what's there and and in fact
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your own reluctance grant of what is there new to
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say about Greenland? And and yet you guys are are finding
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ways and truly, man, I mean this is this is
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just fantastic. I loved in particular the the aliens that
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were taking over the humans and stuff, while while even
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at how and everybody were jailed during an issue too,
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I believe, right, yeah, yeah, so yeah, I mean, you know, just.
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The only adds. I mean, I'm glad, I'm glad we're starting.
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There are way to do it. But honest I look
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at this stuff and it's just my heart breaks because
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I'll be like, oh my god, he's just go ever thing.
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This is fantastic, and you know, enhance the Sanci somch
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So you look at that stuff and the kind of
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I'm like, oh my god, how can you possibly do
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something beyond? And I do think you could, which is
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why we really chose to to make it more small scale. Ultimately,
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it is just procedurals, you know. It it's domestics. It's
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there's a squabble between two people, there's a you know,
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there's some some creature has lost another creature. So all
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the problems are kind of small scale, but the beings
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and the entities that al Jordan's dealing with her on
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this ethic, cosmic scale, and I think that's what gives
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it a different flavor. That's what we went for because
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we just couldn't you can't get past the monolith. Has
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Jeff joined the Green Lantern because it's so immense and
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so thorough and it's examination of that character.
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That it's true, and and I just really enjoying what
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we're doing to He mentioned it to me when we
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bumped into each other in La a while back, and
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he's I think he's just appreciating that it's the sort
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of complete left turn from what he was doing, rather
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than trying to, you know, an extra thing on or
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another chapter or pulling from that which it's it's I
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think it's funny that just Grant says, you know, we
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went small, but in going small, it still almost became
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its own kind of epic because we're hopping around planet
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and planet, you know, And it's got it for me anyway,
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Although the sort of monolithic connection of what he did
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with the Core and the Green Lanterns and everything is unavoidable.
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For me, it feels like we've given it space, if
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you know what I mean. It's sort of it feels
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like a massive universe rather than a massive story.
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Absolutely, yeah, man, I mean again, that's just in our universe,
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or I should say not in just the DC universe,
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proper Earth, Woner ears zero. I'm not even sure they
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did postal rebirth, but yeah, I mean all these alternate
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universes and stuff. Another character, and I loved the design
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and the idea of it. Is the magic lantern kind
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of your or yeah radio lexcuse me, radio lettern. I'm
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looking at my list. Radio lettern. Kind of a bat light,
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kind of a bat light for a green Leonner.
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Huh, Well he was Here was a kind of a
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follow up to a story that I did with Mark
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Miller back in the day in Flash, when we took
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over for a year for Mark Wade.
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Well, for some reason, Mark Wade took over for me
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in Justice League, and we were trying to have less work,
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but we both ended up with more work. But yeah,
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Mark and I did a run on Flash and there
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was a character in there who was spitely based on
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the sonic the Hedgehold thing called Crackle and he was
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here as a super speed character who had to raise
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the Flash. So I just figured we'd created that radio
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world back then, and I thought, well, that'd be fun,
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you know, just especially in our first issue. We wanted
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to show the scale of the Garbians operation and that
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it's happening all across the spectrum. We didn't want to
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use all the different spectrum characters that Jeff had created,
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but we at least wanted to hint at that and
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to hint at something well, either with the out violent
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and invisible stay to Them, or the on giant skill,
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or on microscopic scale, the Galvian on all of these scales.
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Or even rumors that spread by word of mouth, you know,
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even those ideas.
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But that that flash run was amazing.
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Grant.
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I was a huge fan of what you guys did
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on that. A couple of other elements that I imagine
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you're going to explore in the second season, these anti
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Madern lanterns that we saw at the end of season
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one that's coming back, and man, that's kind of again
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an interesting tie to the whole crisis you know concept
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and everything and Vile Crisis in particular.
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Right well, it's the time, tie into the the ceiling
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of all la you know, the sense of continent alarm
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in the DC universe, and so yeah, we're building up
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a bunch of things and obviously the anti Macca guys
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that come back, and you know, Catrol Ferris from Ethiosin
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has come back. Can There's a whole bunch of stuff
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with kind of tun to tie up every single with
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the end of plane, maybe with dangling. So yeah, the
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whole idea is to make it pretty completely when you
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read these, you know, two seasons, it will be it
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will be a pretty tight story on its own.
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You know, I wanted to ask us about a couple
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of stories beyond the green Land and stuff and Leam
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your your collaborative kept collaboration with Greg Ruckan a wonder
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woman that was that was spectacular man, really really great stuff.
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Thank you tell me about that run in particular, because
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you know, obviously you know, different character, different feel. Absolutely,
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you know, it's a delight working with Greg. It's just
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it's completely Greg's way.
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Of telling The story is very character based and it's
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almost a slow burn. It's much more dialogue driven and
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character driven. So it was for that one, it was
484
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:56.759
all about you know, really getting inside Diana's head and
485
00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:00.759
finding out about them Skier and her org you and
486
00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:02.440
you know all of that, specially with the back and
487
00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:05.400
forth with with Nicholas Scott. Whereas I think with a
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Green Lantern, it's it's just thunders along prommission to it's
489
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almost page to page sometimes or even panel to panel.
490
00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:17.440
It's like whole stories that you know, you'd see you
491
00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:19.960
could write a whole fish and mini series around a
492
00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:22.359
single panel that we've drawn in some of the issues,
493
00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:25.759
you know, So it has got a very very different
494
00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:31.720
vibe and pace and energy to it, and a completely
495
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different mindset.
496
00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:32.720
You know.
497
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:36.839
I absolutely adore working with Grant because you know, as
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I say, every single time I get a script and
499
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just it just again the biggest smile by the end
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of it. It's sometimes it takes a little while to
501
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:48.640
pull all of it together in my head to see
502
00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:51.160
where he's going because he's so far ahead of us,
503
00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:54.559
and thinking I have to try and catch up with him.
504
00:26:54.839 --> 00:26:59.960
But but it's it's I just find it really excit.
505
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:03.279
I'm going to be very sad when we eventually come
506
00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:06.559
to the end of it, but also satisfied, and I'll
507
00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:08.680
probably sleep for about two months.
508
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:13.880
Are your scripts like Alan Moore's. I mean, we all
509
00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:16.559
know the reputation of Alan Morres scripts, where you know,
510
00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:18.920
be on this beyond a dialogue, and I mean that
511
00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:21.880
the descriptions really are intense, and I would imagine because
512
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again you're imagining.
513
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:26.160
No, I mean I have heard and I've seen some
514
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:30.039
of them, and I'll go into details. I think it's warranted.
515
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:31.839
You know, there was a.
516
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:36.240
Three paid panel description and All Star Superman of the
517
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Battle City of Candor, but I think it was with
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00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:41.599
these ones. If I know the art as well, it's
519
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:43.960
kind of and I've got ideas in my head and
520
00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:47.519
I'll scape something. I'll spend a long time describing a
521
00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:50.599
culture and maybe just leading that to Liam to develop
522
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:55.000
the artifacts of the culture. So there's a kind of
523
00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:57.920
given page action stuff you can do in a few
524
00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:01.119
pages if you've got a whole you know, setting or
525
00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:04.680
an environment or a culture to describe, and it's worth
526
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:07.480
taking time. So it's probably a little bit in between.
527
00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:12.400
And also I have all kinds of visations about, you know,
528
00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:15.559
where these ideas came from, or why I get into
529
00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:17.400
that character, or who gave me this not.
530
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:21.640
Yeah, now the scripts are real joy and there was
531
00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:24.000
I think, is she one? There was a one. There
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00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:27.240
was a four page panel description, so that might be that.
533
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:31.359
That might be your record. That was a yeah, that.
534
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:33.799
Was a description of it.
535
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:38.000
I thought, how am I going to fit all of
536
00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:40.640
that in one panel? But I saw a challenge, accepted
537
00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:44.960
and jumped on it. And and and what I've realized
538
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:47.480
as well with grant scripts is that all of those
539
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:50.440
little details are valid. There's a reason for them, and
540
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:54.119
they often come back. So you might it might only
541
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be one other panel further down the line, but there's
542
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:03.279
going to be a reference to these guys more pretty
543
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:05.759
much at some point later on. So if you miss
544
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:08.880
it out, if you if you skimp on those details,
545
00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:10.920
it can it can sort of cause a bit of
546
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:13.000
a headache later on. It's it's best to put it
547
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:13.279
all in.
548
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I can earn the story and destroy a child as
549
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:19.960
the childs do.
550
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Honestly. It gives it fun though, and and and also
551
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:29.359
the thing there is that I do all of that,
552
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:31.920
and then I try to add extra ones as well,
553
00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:34.680
you know. So it's it's billson kevit says, I try
554
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:37.680
to He tries to plus a story, you know, and
555
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:39.359
and I try I try to do that too, and
556
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:41.680
add a little bit bit more if I can. If
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00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:44.400
there's any room, well there.
558
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:47.640
Is, and the collaboration lies and things you know where
559
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I can see, you know, me describeer Casino for ages,
560
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:57.119
but otherwise you may just have to see because then
561
00:29:57.359 --> 00:29:59.440
I get to know him and how he works, and
562
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:01.480
I can just it was this huge hole for with
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alien Demonts. Then he goes to ten and design they
564
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:11.319
kind of you know, you can stop to suggest and
565
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:13.359
just you know, I don't have to do the hod walk.
566
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:15.359
I can just see what am I going to coach
567
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.920
based on this, and then we must deal with the
568
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:19.960
hard work.
569
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:24.119
Grant, this is my first chance to talk to you
570
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:29.839
about Multiversity and what an incredible story that was, and man,
571
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:34.599
you introduced so many fantastic ideas and every issue it's like,
572
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:38.640
oh man, I would love to see twelve issues of
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00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:43.279
that universe and everything is is there. You know, First
574
00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:45.799
of all, congratulations on that story, because I think I
575
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:49.559
really achieved what you were trying to do absolutely, But like,
576
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:51.799
would you ever go back to and as you have
577
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:54.960
in this story touched on some of the things you
578
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:58.079
introduced in Multiversity, but would you ever you know, want
579
00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:00.680
to go back to some of these individuals world and
580
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:02.240
and do longer stories.
581
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:04.279
I don't know, honestly, I want I want them all.
582
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:08.680
I'm getting it tired, like I think it's pinous my trail,
583
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:12.079
but of counter and it's just really good stuff in there.
584
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:15.759
So I did want them all, right, but I just don't.
585
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:17.759
I mean, there's there's other things come up to me,
586
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:22.480
thing A fifteen other pooject media and the ones, the
587
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:24.440
ones that are happening, they are the ones that are fun.
588
00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:27.240
So I don't know what that feels like most of us,
589
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:30.240
it was almost gun and dusted, even though it left
590
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:32.759
all these trails. It would be nice if someone else
591
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:34.880
just followed them and spared me to hunt.
592
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:42.000
That'd be cool. Here as we wrap up, guys, I'm
593
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:44.759
really interested in, uh, you know, how how you guys
594
00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:47.640
are handling the current status quo. I mean, we're we're
595
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:50.400
feeling it globally. And if you had anything you wanted to,
596
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:52.680
you know, say that the readers and stuff, I wanted
597
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:54.720
to give you both the opportunity, So Liam, I'll let
598
00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:57.160
you you know, just yeah, you know, really, how are
599
00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:59.920
things going? I hope your family is okay and any
600
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:01.640
can you want to share with the audience regarding the
601
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:02.640
current status qull.
602
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:08.160
And that's honestly the way I view it is the
603
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:11.519
best things I've ever done in my entire life. Literally
604
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:16.119
without exception. I've come out of some sort of adversity,
605
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:20.559
whether that's you know, work drying up, or having to
606
00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:23.119
just really dig in and dig deep and try and
607
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:28.279
find a way through whatever the situation was, and that
608
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:31.440
has led right, that's sort of given rise to two
609
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publishing companies, three novels, and you know, projects that are
610
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:41.519
very very sort of close to my heart and they
611
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:45.039
all came in times like this when you challenged on
612
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:48.720
the other side of it. It's brought my family together.
613
00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:52.799
So my son had moved to San Diego and literally
614
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:56.000
just been there for six weeks and started working. You know,
615
00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:58.960
obviously that work didn't pan out. Now he's home again,
616
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:01.319
so we're making them most of all of us being
617
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home and we're having fun doing. In England, they have
618
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:08.519
a thing called Desert Island Discs, which is like, so
619
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you pick eight of your favorite tracks and so on
620
00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:14.400
a Friday, we'll have pizza and beer and pick it all.
621
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Pick eight tracks and put a playlist together and you know,
622
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and basically have fun like that, and it's nice. We're
623
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.880
making the most of it, have just been together, and
624
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:27.839
I'm making the most of just taking the opportunity to
625
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:31.720
to follow up on some other dreams. You know that
626
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:33.880
the right because I love to write too, It's a
627
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:38.039
big passion. So I'm writing a bit and just just
628
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:40.480
making the most of it. And what else are you
629
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:43.759
going to do? You Either you either grab grab the
630
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:47.039
moment by the horns and take an opportunity to to
631
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:50.039
use the time have not been able to go anywhere,
632
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:52.880
or you just despair, I think, and that's not really
633
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:53.279
an option.
634
00:33:53.880 --> 00:34:00.079
Yeah, yeah, great.
635
00:33:59.279 --> 00:33:59.880
How you doing?
636
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.000
Have you been with me?
637
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:05.519
I'm doing okay that I'm really I'm doing the same
638
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:09.000
thing Lea as honestly, I'm expanding the podcast, doing some
639
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:12.760
live streaming, working on some projects. I think, I really,
640
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:17.880
I really want to do a narrative storytelling podcast. And
641
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:20.800
I'm a I'm a boxing guy. I actually covered boxing
642
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:24.920
for sixteen years in print and broadcast, you know, And
643
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:28.559
I really think that period after Joe Louis's retirement when
644
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:32.280
the Mob really took over boxing up until Ali when
645
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:35.840
Ali beat Sonny listed, I think that's a fascinated period.
646
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:39.719
And it really is the Sopranos meets quizz show, you know,
647
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:42.519
meets uh, you know, Rocky in a lot of ways.
648
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.199
And I and I think there's a there's true there's Yeah,
649
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.480
there's a true story there to be told. So that's
650
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:50.400
kind of something I'm buzzing with. So yeah, that's that's and.
651
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:56.800
But you see, it's a pediof people don't visit, you know. Yeah,
652
00:34:56.880 --> 00:35:00.320
it's a please to go into some stuff going that
653
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:01.679
most people don't think about.
654
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:06.000
Yeah, man, so yeah, the only any how about you,
655
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:08.719
Gret were you know, I hope everything's going okay?
656
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:12.719
And he honestly, we're doing We're doing good. But I
657
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.320
live in the country, so it's kind of businesses usual.
658
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:19.079
My entire life has been in social isolation, self isolation.
659
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.880
You know, that's how it is. So it hasn't been
660
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:27.599
hasn't been so hard as has been other people. I
661
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.639
think it's the people who are on the front line,
662
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:34.519
like the working people. Yeah, you know, the care workers,
663
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.800
the working tour they've got a totally different version of
664
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:39.400
but the rest of us who are at home and
665
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:42.880
working can almost have a utopian hopeful. I think it's
666
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:45.400
great that people are getting together and being kinder to
667
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:49.760
one another on the actual streets, on the actual front lines.
668
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.840
It's it's quite hellish. So I think the best thing
669
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we can do is, you know, think about the people
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00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:57.519
who are really out there on the front lines of this,
671
00:35:57.599 --> 00:35:59.719
who are protecting the rest of us from the worst
672
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:03.840
of it, and and I just you know what, everyone
673
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:06.880
to just keep themselves and their families as safe as possible,
674
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but really there are people there and who are dying
675
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:13.639
helping other people who are going to work in the
676
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:18.079
bus in the morning for no one wearing masks. There's
677
00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:22.599
no protection and the serious going there's genuinely front line stuff.
678
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:24.320
And as those are the people I think we should
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be thinking about on applauding.
680
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:32.400
Yeah, I love. I was just going to say it's
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great in England. We've got a friend whose daughters and
682
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:40.639
nurse and he was just saying how emotional it is
683
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:43.440
on because every Thursday that everyone's out in the streets
684
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:48.599
just banging their pots and cheering and classic the workers
685
00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:52.199
and the care workers and the NHS and anybody who's
686
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:54.800
sort of on a scrant set on the front line,
687
00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:58.159
and it's become quite a sort of thing.
688
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:01.840
You know, and I, well, I find it's quite quite
689
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:04.800
fascinating and happening that there is this. It's now become
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a ritual almost. I'm sure something like it Amica and
691
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:11.760
everywhere else will arise, but it's it's a ritualistic thing.
692
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And people are spontaneously out on the streets banging gongs
693
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:20.280
and yelling, papping for what is essentially a huge, nuturing,
694
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:24.000
caring spirit. And I find that kind of fascinating, especially
695
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:26.840
when the churches of the old of the old gods
696
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:31.800
are vacant right now. Yeah, people are spontaneously applauding and
697
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:35.679
a much more nuturing spin and much more caring kind
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00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:36.159
of spirit.
699
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:39.960
It's funny that we haven't got it here, but I'm
700
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:44.119
hearing from like because we've still got our old house
701
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:47.360
in Derby and and and they call it like the
702
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:51.360
Five Streets. It's a community of of of well just
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00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:55.360
this community basically of five streets. And they're they're doing
704
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things like they're doing all houses getting window boxes full
705
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:04.079
of flowers, and they're beautifying the streets and making it
706
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:06.679
so that anyone looking out the windows is just seeing
707
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:09.840
this eruption of color and light and life. You know,
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00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:12.519
even though they can't go anywhere. And I love those
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kind of like grants, a spontaneous, ritualistic kind of approaches
710
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to this, to this, uh, this this you know, weird
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time we're in and it is a community things.
712
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:29.400
Obviously, I think to focus on to focus on the
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community aspect. I think that's the main thing, is that
714
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if this can forster a sense of community, because it
715
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:39.599
really isn't any alien invasion, you know, there's an aggressive
716
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:44.960
organism attacking entire human social body. So you can see
717
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as this is the thing that maybe maybe it will
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00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:53.000
shocks into just for just a moment, recognizing the similarities
719
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rather than the differences which have been you know. That's
720
00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:59.119
that's how the discourse has been for the last twenty years,
721
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I think has been a bit destiningtization and this made
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teams up, but not It's just that you're tooking looking
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at some you can see on the seats and the
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hospital ward. This is this is real, you know, and
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we can we can hope for the future. What we
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wait for these people delimit the rate maybe for.
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You agreed, man.
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Yeah, And I've got friends in the healthcare profession here
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in Chicago and in the States that yeah, are really
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literally face to face with this thing. And but again
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I think Liam, I agree with you man that it
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is times of despair that a lot of creatives sometimes
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come up with their best work, and certainly guys, you
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guys started one of your best works prior to the
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current status quo. It continues now. I know that Diamond
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is on pause. We're looking forward to chapter three of
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season two. But I can't thank you guys enough for
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coming on, and I hope we can talk more in
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the future. Liam, I'd love to talk to you about
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your novels and good Lord Grant. You know, I could
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think of thirty years of comments that I would love
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to talk to you about, and uh, it's it's truly
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a genuine ones self.
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We could talk.
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Yeah, no, So so let's hopefully in the future, let's
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let's try and if you guys are willing, would love
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to have you guys back individually, honestly, because I don't
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mind the ping pong interview and I think we've had
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pretty good but it would be great to talk to
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you guys one on one and talk a bit more
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about your contributions to the culture. And I thank you,
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and I know the readers thank you as well for
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entertaining us and providing us with great distractions. If people haven't,
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I'm sure they have because I know it's a good seller.
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But if you haven't, man, you are in for some
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great fun picking up the green lantern run by these
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two gentlemen, Graham Morrison and Liam Shark. I thank you
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greatly for your time.
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Well, thank you at fun. Tom, thanks, and I hope
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people enjoy it. We are trying to do something that
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kind of casey would I definitely please?
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Yeah, no, absolutely so, it's so true. It definitely. It
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gives me an escape from the world for a few
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hours every day, well a few hours long, many long
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hours every day. So no, thanks for having us. It's
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been great. It's been a lot of fun. It always
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is getting on the phone with grants. It's always a left.
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And that'll do it for this edition of word Balloon.
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Thanks so much for listening. Questions or comments about the
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show reach me via email John atwordballoon dot com. If
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you didn't know, we are also a YouTube video interview show.
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If you go to word Balloon's YouTube page just word Balloon,
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one word you'll find it there. I know it's confusing,
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it's two words otherwise when you look for it on
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the podcast platforms, but as always, really appreciate your time
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and attention. Word balloon is a copyright feature of Shaky Productions.
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