Rachel Boell

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This is Without Sensor, the GRM interview podcast.
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Every time without fail, that song just hypes me up.
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It just gets me going.
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Oh man.
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So Hey everybody, welcome back.
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This is episode number three of the Without Sensor podcast.
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Anyways, as always, my name is Josh.
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I'm here today with Adam.
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Howdy.
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And we have a very special guest here today with us.
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And man, I'm really excited about talking to her.
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I am as well.
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This is something that's been possibly four and a half years in the works.
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And I'm glad I have the opportunity.
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Well, not only myself, but my co-host, Josh, to have the privilege to be bestowed the honor
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of speaking to this person.
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It means a terrible amount to me.
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Absolutely.
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So without well, I mean, with a little bit more ado, let's let's get into the world famous
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without sensor introduction of our guest.
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And I'm obviously standing for this because, you know, I got to give it everything I got.
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You can't just you can't half ass it.
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I don't have as for nobody.
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Okay.
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Anyways.
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Ladies and gentlemen, it is now time for your main event introducing.
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She has been known by many names.
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She is the executor of events, a yeoman of yoga.
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She has been called the apex of administration.
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She is an envoy for aesthetic excellence.
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She is also a certified yoga instructor, a certificated aesthetician and the current reigning
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defending events manager for the Fox theater Pomona.
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She is renegade Rachel.
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All right.
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Welcome, Rachel.
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Welcome to the show.
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Hey, guys.
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Hello.
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Hello.
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I do.
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I do hope you enjoyed the over the top.
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Yeah.
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That was amazing.
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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Thank you so much for being here.
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So between myself and Rachel, I met her back, I think, four and a half years ago.
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And it was at a rooftop show at the Fox Theater Pomona.
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And it was for the two bands.
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Actually, I think there was more on the bill.
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But the two bands that I remember were Snuff Redux and the tracks.
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And I don't remember if I spoke to Golo that night as well.
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But I got to know you a bit during that time.
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And ever since I got to experience that event at the Fox Theater Pomona, I became like
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a repeat customer of anything you guys would do.
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And in the midst of that, you and I had a few conversations in the past.
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I'm like, you know what?
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It's a good opportunity to learn more about you and how you contribute to the music community
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in Southern California.
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And I know you have a number of things that you and Golo, who's somebody that you work
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with, do a number of things for a lot of the new and local and rising bands here in Southern
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California.
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So we just want to give you a spotlight in our sincere appreciation to somebody that
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I hold in high regard.
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So thank you so much for doing this.
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Absolutely.
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Thank you guys for considering me and just even, you know, bringing this whole thing
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to life of what you guys do.
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I think it's pretty cool.
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I've been taking a look at everything that you guys have been doing.
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And I think that's awesome, too.
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Just getting information out there and kind of like spotlighting, highlighting different
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things and, you know, music and art.
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So yeah, thank you guys.
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And I'm hoping that, you know, as we gather more people, that everybody will look at each
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other and think, you know what, this is really cool.
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This is, you know, I belong in this company.
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I mean, the first woman that we had was Lana Mack, who is part of the Guasmica record label.
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I mean, she her artist that she works with, they won a Grammy and we had Edward Erdilac,
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who was a writer and a filmmaker that that he had some contributions to Star Wars that
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are what was uncredited.
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They basically stole some things from him.
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So that kind of sucks.
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You know, anyway.
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I mean, if you if you I think that episode actually comes out this week.
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Yeah, it'll be out Wednesday.
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But anyways, this is about you.
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This is OK.
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This is about you.
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I want to start off with, I guess, more of your your personal life.
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And we'll start off with the open ended question, kind of a little bit of a warm up.
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So tell us about your life and you could share as much as or as little as you you wish to.
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OK, OK.
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Awesome.
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So I'm from L.A. I grew up in Montebello.
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I'm a little bit older, probably than most of my like the peers I work with and stuff.
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So I grew up in the 90s.
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You know, I went to high school in the 90s and was very influenced by music then.
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But my it started I started loving music when I was 10.
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I remember, you know, maybe earlier.
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But when I was 10 years old, I remember like my 10th birthday party, like I just got like
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Madonna stuff and Michael Jackson and Prince.
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And like all I wanted to do was watch Prince and the Revolution.
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You know, like I just wanted to watch like watch that.
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And I couldn't at home, but my one of my uncles let me.
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So I was like super excited.
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And I didn't realize how much I like music until I look back at it now, you know, and
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how like that that that started happening.
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I just gravitated towards it so much like my parents.
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They were more into country music.
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So that was kind of an influence, but I never really got into a country.
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But I guess like I like indie rock and that kind of like I feel like has a country influence.
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But so it basically started then when I was 10 years old and but didn't know, you know,
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I was just kind of like floating around doing different things because I didn't know that's
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this is what I was supposed to do or anything like that, you know.
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And I guess in high school, I was in band.
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I was a band nerd and I played a bass drum and just kind of was into more of a new wave
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kind of style music.
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I remember even in sixth grade, like I would run home from school and like turn on the
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TV and watch this thing called VH1 or video one with Richard Blade.
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OK, it was like all the new wave stuff.
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So you were well, I guess the first question I want to ask is, did you happen to see Purple
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Rain as a child since you talked about Prince?
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I did.
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What did you think of the movie?
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I was I was just so into it.
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I loved the style.
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I loved the music.
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I loved like the like, you know, it was kind of like a little edgy for being just like,
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you know, just a kid.
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So it was that that was really cool to be able to like I remember my uncle, like my
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uncle Jesse, who has an amazing record collection still.
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He's the one that let me watch it with my aunt, him and my aunt.
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Let me watch it.
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I was so happy about that.
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And as far as your experiences for VH1, I mean, you're talking about the new wave genre.
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So what were some of the bands that you enjoyed?
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Imagine you had, I guess, like Oingo Boingo or like Flock of Seagulls or B-52s as part
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of maybe part of your Repit 12 bands that you enjoyed or well, tell us about it.
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Yeah, it was I really was a big fan of the Cure, Duran Duran, Psychedelic Furs, just
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that that kind of stuff.
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And I kind of started getting into the Beastie Boys and even the Fat Boys and getting into
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like more of the hip hop stuff.
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And but yeah, that's I was very into just different, different genres, I guess.
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And could you tell us about some of some of your experiences in high school as far as
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far as being a band nerd?
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Because you've had some experience with music itself.
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I mean, what happened in high school for yourself?
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OK, so in high school, so I was this band nerd and I was a you know, I was a freshman
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and I had a cousin who was older than me.
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He was like two years older than me and he was a rocker.
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So he hung out with all the rockers and they were all these long haired dudes.
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I was just a little nerdy, new wave freshman, band nerd, swim team.
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And I would have to hang out with these guys going home from school in this like truck
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that had a K and a C sticker on it.
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And they'd be like blasting Guns N' Roses, Metallica, any any slayer, anything like that.
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So I would just have to hang out with my cousin all the time, which is a huge influence.
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Right.
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Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.
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Go ahead.
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No, no, go ahead.
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Go ahead.
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And as far as you know, you're talking about some of your family.
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What was your immediate family like?
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Did you did you have siblings or I mean, you mentioned you had parents, but do you have
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siblings?
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Yes, I have two younger brothers.
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And so my my middle brother, he was into music, too.
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He was actually into Metallica.
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He got me into the violent femmes and Nine Inch Nails growing up, Red Hot Chili Peppers.
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So yeah, I have two two younger brothers and my youngest brother.
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He always amazes me at his music knowledge.
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You know, he always just knows it's just something.
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I guess maybe I feel like my dad is he I didn't grow up with him, but he's a big music person.
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Mm hmm.
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Yeah.
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So just by like the sound of it, it seems that music is kind of a big thing for your family.
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And maybe maybe it was even destiny for you to be eventually involved, even if you didn't
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know you like had that answer, you know, later until life.
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But it is very cool to hear about some of the the influences in your family to just
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kind of you're kind of like the amalgamation of everything that has been passed down to
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you or recommended to you.
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It's very cool to hear.
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Yeah, yeah, definitely.
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And I thought I heard you say you were on the swim team, right in high school.
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Yeah.
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So was that an interesting or a weird dynamic for you being in a sport, but also being kind
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of considered one of those band kid nerd type people?
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Yeah, you know, I think that it was still like it was the same kind of nerdiness to
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be in this in the swim team and in band.
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But the funny thing is my boyfriend was the quarterback of the football team.
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Like he was older than me, like a year older than me.
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So he was like this like very handsome, like talented dude, and I was a swim nerd and bad
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nerd.
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So it was kind of a funny, funny thing, you know, he can sing too.
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So that's a weird thing to have always like dated people who are like musically inclined,
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maybe.
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Oh, OK, I get you.
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No, I only ask because I kind of was also a little bit in the same deal, too, where I
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mean, I was in ROTC.
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I was one of those kids.
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And I also I also play baseball.
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So it was a weird dynamic of I kind of floated in and out of all the different circles because,
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you know, yeah, you're kind of seen as, oh, this like nerd kid.
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But then also, oh, you do actually contribute and you play a mainstream thing.
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So it is a weird dynamic, I guess, from that perspective.
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I just was curious to see what your take on it was, I guess.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Absolutely nerd, complete nerd in school.
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So what what music would capture your heart in high school?
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What was the thing that if somebody made a playlist for you back in the day, what would
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win your heart over?
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I think it would be probably a lot of new wave, as we would call it, like the Pesh mode,
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Morrissey.
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But then I started getting like so I was into that a lot, you know, a lot of new wave.
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And then I just kind of like slowly went to the grunge.
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Like so Nirvana, you know, smells like Teen Spirit came out when I was in high school.
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So it was like a huge like ordeal, you know, it was like, whoa, like we started getting
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into grunge, you know, like even just the style kind of change docks and, you know,
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flannels around your waist, jean shorts.
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So that all started happening.
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But I was I was kind of nerdy, so I was like I was gravitated towards it, but I was really
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preppy looking, you know, kind of in a weird way.
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So but I was definitely like that was that's what I loved, you know.
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And during that time of your life, what were I mean, were you going to shows out with friends
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and going out maybe an hour away from where you live to go see bands perform or festivals
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or concerts?
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Something all that?
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No.
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So during high school, I wasn't I'm telling I was just a complete nerd.
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I basically just, you know, go to swim practice.
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I had a boyfriend, but it wasn't like we would go out anywhere, maybe to the movies.
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And so I was really kind of sheltered.
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But I had this older cousin, he'd be able to go like he would go see Gore and he'd go
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to like the troubadour.
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And I remember there was a band.
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I finally got to go to the troubadour with him.
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And I went to go see a band play there.
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They're called Revolution Cafe.
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And we sir was playing with them.
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But before we sir was big, and it was, I didn't know that though, you know, and I was able
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to do that.
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And that was the that's the like most memorable thing from high school, like a show I was
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able to actually go to.
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Interesting.
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So until after high school, like I think I went to like Depeche Mode, Morrissey.
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And my first my first festival was Lollapalooza in 1993.
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And that is a festival I think is in Chicago from not mistaken.
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It is now.
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But used to be out here.
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It's a festival that was created by Perry Farrell from Jane's Addiction.
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So which is Coachella is inspired by Lollapalooza.
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It was like before Coachella, you know, and it's yeah, it's it was amazing, like Smashing
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Pumpkins played, BC Boys played so many, you know, huge 90s bands played.
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So it was like my first festival, my first taste of like, you know, that that I don't
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know that world.
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Yeah, I mean, that's quite a bit to be exposed to.
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I mean, I don't remember if I don't know if you watched The Simpsons at all, but one
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of the episodes was dedicated to Lollapalooza itself and some of the guests that you or
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rather some of the bands that you were mentioning, you know, kind of all over the places.
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I mean, Cypress Hill and I think Smashing Pumpkins were a few of the guests, but kind
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of a cool eclectic band of genres that this festival had.
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Yes, absolutely.
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Cypress Hill.
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And now I remember that one.
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So fun.
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And what about your what about your, you know, your later your more adult years?
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What can you tell us about your adult years?
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So I think that in the 90s, I I started like, you know, kind of breaking out of my shell
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and started going out more, started going to to shows.
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I had boyfriends that were in bands.
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So like I had one boyfriend who was in a punk band.
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And so I would get his cassette tapes and I would take them over to the troubadour,
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the whiskey, like all these places.
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Some of them were pay to play.
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And I was fine with that.
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I would be like, listen to this.
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And they'd be like, all right, Sally's tickets.
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So then I take him to his band and they sell the tickets and then they play there.
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You know, so so then I started I started getting into like backyard like punk rock in East
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L.A. started kind of getting to know those bands and going to a lot of those gigs.
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Chose into the chili peppers and started getting into Queens of the Stone Age, then just kind
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in going to shows constantly.
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And then in 1998, I moved to Vegas and I'll tell you about that after.
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But go ahead.
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Go ahead.
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That sounds that sounds actually really cool.
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Yes.
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OK.
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So in 1998, I was working at a law firm.
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I would just have all these random jobs.
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OK, like I'd get a law firm job.
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OK.
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And I'd like move up in my jobs, but I'd get bored after I'd like get to a certain position
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and be like, I'm out, you know, and I'd go get another job.
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So I had a job at a law firm and they needed somebody to move to Vegas to work at the law
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firm in Vegas.
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So I was like, I'm your girl.
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So I just I was 22 years old and I was like, I'm out, mom.
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I'm moving to Vegas and I had friends that were in Vegas, too.
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So just and friends that were in bands and stuff like that.
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So just kind of starting to get into music out there as well.
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And that's when I started liking indie rock.
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So I like started getting into modest mouse and built spill and, you know, any silver
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sun pickups and stuff like that.
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And if you don't mind me asking, were you I mean, what was the law firm pertaining to?
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Was it entertainment law or was it injury law?
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No, it was just really interesting for saying called fee paid legal.
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And so basically you would have you would pay a monthly fee, say you you're a member,
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you pay a monthly fee and you get like legal advice, like a certain amount a month.
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And then if you if you needed an attorney for something to represent you in court, then
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we would kind of refer you to an attorney, get a discount.
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That was it.
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And as far as your musical experiences went in Las Vegas, what was the scene like if you
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were able to go out to shows during that time or stint that you spent in Las Vegas?
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What were what was the scene like in Las Vegas as far as music went?
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You know, you know what I've realized if it's like if it's a smaller city or town or place,
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it's easier to get recognized as a musician, you know, because there's not that much competition
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sometimes.
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So that's what I realized.
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Like when I was out there, I was like, oh, it's easier to if you're in a band or something
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to maybe get recognized because there's it's not as big.
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You're not like kind of just kind of lost with every other band or whatever.
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I did notice that.
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But I was what was I was into Incubus at that time.
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And that was when they first started and they play like smaller shows out there.
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Or there was this other band that I was just like, I was like, I love them.
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They're called Gwen Mars, and they're from L.A., but they would go and play in Vegas
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too.
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I'd follow them everywhere and take pictures and stuff like that was so cool.
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So just kind of doing that started getting into just like I said, the indie rock during
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that time.
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Granddaddy like a friend of mine was the original drummer for Silver Sun Pickups.
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Yeah, she we went to high school together and her and her boyfriend, which is Brian,
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who sings now for Silver Sun Pickups.
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And then it was Kennedy and his girlfriend, who his girlfriend still in there and Silver
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Sun Pickups.
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So yeah, they started off.
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We would hang out with them all the time before they were big.
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And I remember listening to hearing La-V-I when they first started and I was like, what's
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that song about the eye?
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You know, I feel like I'm really good at hearing a hit.
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Yeah.
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Was there any kind of culture shock, I guess, going from L.A. to Vegas or was it a pretty
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seamless transition for you?
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You know, I think I like the smaller town vibe.
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The Vegas.
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I really.
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Yeah.
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I remember going up to this like Mount Charleston and you can look down and see the whole all
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of Las Vegas from, you know, north to south, east to west.
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You can see the whole thing.
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You know, and I thought that was like really cool.
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And people like actually like cared about you.
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I remember I call in to work.
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I call in sick and they'd be like, we're going to go pick you up.
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I'd be like, what?
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What do you mean?
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You're coming to my house.
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So that was kind of like interesting.
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Yeah.
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They don't do that out here.
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Nobody's nobody's got time to go drive four and a half hours of traffic to somebody's
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house twenty two miles away.
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They were really really like it was kind of like very close knit, I guess, small town
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feel.
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Yeah, I got you.
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And so as far as the music scene goes, did you also kind of prefer the Vegas music scene
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to the L.A. one that you were previously, you know, involved in?
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No, no.
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Yeah.
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So that's OK.
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So the L.A. one was better.
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Yes, absolutely.
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It was definitely like rich.
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And yeah, that scene, it was so juicy.
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Yeah, there's a lot of a lot more choices, right, as opposed to I mean, that is the drawback
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of the small town kind of feel is, yeah, you you get more people, you can get ahead.
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If you're talented, you can probably get ahead faster.
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But in L.A., you may just get lost in the shuffle.
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But hey, at least there's choices, I guess.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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It was just like my boyfriend was in a band out in Vegas.
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So that was easy for me to like it was that's what it was about, like, you know, wherever
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his band was playing.
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And I can't even remember the venues out there.
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But there was all these little cool venues, you know, and stuff like that.
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And a lot of other bands would come through and play.
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And, you know, it was a big party for the most part.
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And it was it was fun.
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You know, it was fun for the time.
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I wish I would have known, you know, you know, you always wish you would have known what
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now, you know, you know, then, you know, now kind of thing.
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Just I enjoyed it more.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Now, you said you've dated a few band like singers and bands and stuff and whatnot.
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I'm just curious, is there obviously there's the stereotype of when someone's in a band,
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there's obviously people are throwing themselves at them.
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There's the there's a certain level of, I guess, expected promiscuity or whatever from
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from someone in a band.
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Did you be in a relationship with someone in a band?
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Did that ever kind of pose an issue or was that ever a major problem for you or did it
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breed jealousy or anything like that?
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You know, I was I think I was I was very good at handling it in a weird way.
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I think, yeah, I actually married one.
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I was married to four to one for 14 years, father of my son's musician and also.
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But that that's a whole other podcast.
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We might have to hold to that.
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I mean, there is no time limit here.
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So, you know, I mean, hey, if you've got the time, we do.
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So but yeah, I get you.
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So OK, go ahead, Adam.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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So that I want to kind of go back to this the Silver Sun pickups thread because I know
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I've heard the story before of how the name came about.
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And I was kind of hoping maybe you could refresh my mind because I I think it might have something
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to do with the liquor store.
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I don't remember, but maybe you might know.
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I do, I do know.
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So Silver Sun pickups.
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So they would they'd lived in Silver Lake, right?
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And there's this liquor store called Silver Silver Lake or Silver Sun Liquor Store, Silver
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Sun Liquor Store.
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And so any time they were having band practice, the person who was late to band practice or
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the person who was going to get to band practice, black had to pick up drinks at the Silver
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Sun Liquor Store.
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So it was Silver Sun pickups.
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And that's how the name became Silver Sun pickups.
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OK, yeah, I was trying to remember the story because I heard it once before, but couldn't
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think of it.
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So and as far as the so you had heard some of the songs being rehearsed before, but you
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felt that Lazy Eye was a hit from I mean, probably for the first time you heard it,
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correct?
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Yes, yes, I heard it.
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It was it was at a little maybe it was a Silver Lake Lounge.
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Maybe that's the first time I heard it.
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They would play there sometimes because a lot of the indie bands would go to Silver Lake
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Lounge.
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And I was going Silver Lake was just such a scene, you know.
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So everybody was playing there, all the indie bands.
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And that's when I first heard it.
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And I just remember like it sticking in my head like, oh, shoot, like, I really like
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that song, you know, like what's that song?
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The I he was like, oh, lazy guy.
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And then I and then whatever.
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Then we went on and, you know, and then I heard it like then when I heard their album,
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I was like, oh, my gosh, that's the hit, you know, of course it is.
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Yeah, it has to be.
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I mean, yeah, there's just something about that song.
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And it's still something that, you know, K-Rock has in its regular rotation of music throughout
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the day.
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But yeah, this is so cool to hear this like your personal story of just everything that
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happens and that has happened to you as far as music goes.
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Very cool.
476
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So what what what brought you back to Los Angeles after, you know, being in Las Vegas for so
477
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,160
many years?
478
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,760
What what brought you back?
479
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:51,360
OK, so actually, I was only in Vegas for one year, one year.
480
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,360
And then I yeah.
481
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,360
And then I came back.
482
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:59,040
But I would go back and forth because my my ex ex has been lived there at the time.
483
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,400
So I would go back and forth all the time.
484
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:13,120
And then so then I came back to L.A. and I just like got a job at like AT&T or something,
485
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,120
right?
486
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,560
Great money, great benefits, but like super boring for me.
487
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,320
I just like put my headphones on as long as I can listen to music.
488
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:28,120
I can probably do anything, you know, like it's probably on most of my life.
489
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,160
There's probably a music playing.
490
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,440
And I don't know if it's like a weird thing or if it's a normal thing, but it is, you
491
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,640
know, just for me.
492
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:45,400
So I came back to L.A., got a job at AT&T and was like kind of like wasn't really into
493
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,400
that.
494
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,400
But it was fun.
495
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,680
I met fun friends there and I was playing.
496
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:55,160
I mean, I would go to this place and I think Echo Park maybe or somewhere called Mr. T's
497
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,980
Lounge or Mr. T's Bowl.
498
00:31:57,980 --> 00:32:03,320
And it was like bands would play there and there was a band called Arlo and I'd go watch
499
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,120
them like every Tuesday night.
500
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,720
I was like smoking cigarettes all the time.
501
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,240
And it was like just like this whole this whole thing.
502
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,600
So I was working at AT&T doing all that.
503
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:24,160
And then I decided to my ex husband and I decided to get married.
504
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:29,520
We got married and I quit working at AT&T.
505
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,840
But then I was like, oh, I better just better get a job.
506
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,800
So then I report.
507
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:41,720
Oops, sorry about that.
508
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:51,960
I applied at this agency and it was a secret job.
509
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,480
Like they were like and just as admin, right?
510
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,200
So it was a secret job.
511
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,960
And I was like, I don't know what this place is, but you know, whatever.
512
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,880
I was going to be a receptionist.
513
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,720
So I was the receptionist there and I was like, what is this place?
514
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:09,680
And I saw this guy walk downstairs and he had a Weezer t-shirt over his shoulder.
515
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,760
And I was like, what is this?
516
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,200
And it was a merchandise company.
517
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,040
It was called Giant Merchandising.
518
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:28,440
And they like it was t-shirts, you know, like so they made t-shirts for like they made Nike
519
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,440
Reebok.
520
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,240
They did like private label stuff.
521
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:36,640
And then they did tour merchandise.
522
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,240
And I was like, oh my gosh, this is amazing.
523
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,100
I can't believe I'm here.
524
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:46,640
And so people are applying to go work upstairs in the art department, merchandise department.
525
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,280
So I would get their resumes and I would look at their resumes.
526
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,280
I'd read them.
527
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,280
I'd be like, what are they doing?
528
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,440
How are they getting up there?
529
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,840
You know, I need to know because I need to get up there somehow.
530
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,240
And so my goal was to get up there.
531
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,240
That was my first goal.
532
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,380
I got to get up to the art department.
533
00:34:04,380 --> 00:34:09,360
So then eventually I was there for long enough, started getting to know people.
534
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,840
And I was like, hey, how can I get up there?
535
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:12,840
They interviewed me.
536
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:18,600
And I got in and I just started doing working on like Reebok and Nike, like something boring.
537
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:25,080
What kind of, would you like designing logos or like putting together, you know, designs
538
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,440
for shirts and stuff like that?
539
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,440
Yeah.
540
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:33,360
So it would be like Nike would send like, okay, we want, you know, red t-shirts with
541
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,000
a yellow logo on it.
542
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,440
And then we'd get them printed.
543
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:37,960
I'd have to approve a sample.
544
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,960
And it was actually like the actual like production of the shirts.
545
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,000
Oh, okay.
546
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:50,400
So I would just like, you know, they would send us a pack packet or whatever for this
547
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,400
part of it.
548
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,660
It was really easy.
549
00:34:52,660 --> 00:34:56,280
So then, so then I started doing that and I was like, okay, this is cool.
550
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:02,360
Just kind of, I still wanted to move into, I don't know what, you know, I was just like,
551
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,360
okay, this is cool, but I want another position here.
552
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:11,560
So obviously like I'm very like determined, you know?
553
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:12,560
Yeah.
554
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,960
So I was like, okay, how do I get into the tour department?
555
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,240
And they were like, nope, you can't go into the tour department.
556
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:20,240
I was like, okay.
557
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:23,240
So then I, right.
558
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:24,240
They're like, no dice.
559
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:26,240
You got to know somebody who knows somebody.
560
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:27,240
Yes.
561
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:33,520
And then at that time, my ex-husband got a new job in San Diego.
562
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,520
So we moved.
563
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,240
I left, went to San Diego.
564
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:40,280
I had just had my first son, Ficus.
565
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:46,400
So left to San Diego was being a mom, you know, having a great old time with Ficus and
566
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,400
my ex-husband.
567
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:53,540
And then, and then we came, then we came back, his job moved back over here.
568
00:35:53,540 --> 00:35:57,000
So we came back and I just started going to school in Santa Monica.
569
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,060
Like I started going to school for fashion because I love fashion.
570
00:36:01,060 --> 00:36:07,160
So I was just like taking all these fashion courses and giant merchandising called me,
571
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,160
called me and they were like, hey, Rachel, they're like, cause I kept in touch with them.
572
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,840
They're like, we need you.
573
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:12,840
And I was like, well, I'm in school.
574
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,240
And they're like, well, once you finish school, you're just going to get this job anyways,
575
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:18,240
like a job like this anyway.
576
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:19,240
So you just should come back.
577
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:22,600
And I was like, you're right.
578
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:29,240
You know, cause all the, I was, all my colleagues were like from FITM or did some type of like
579
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:30,920
fashion.
580
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,360
So I said, you're right.
581
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:39,120
So I just quit, stopped done with school and went back to giant merchandising.
582
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:44,280
And I was able to be more creative and I was able to create designs for hot topics.
583
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,200
I did like nightmare before Christmas for a hot topic.
584
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:54,000
They let me do little boys design since I had a son, which was really cool, you know?
585
00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:01,360
And then our manager got, I mean, she, she went on maternity leave and when she went
586
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,480
on maternity leave there, there was an opening in the tour department.
587
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:11,400
So I weaseled my way into the tour department as soon as she left.
588
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,920
And that's like, so you, so you kind of snuck your way in there.
589
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,920
Yeah.
590
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:16,920
Seize the moment.
591
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:17,920
Yeah.
592
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,920
Yeah.
593
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,920
That's a more appropriate phrase.
594
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:20,920
Hey, you know what?
595
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:26,080
I think that renegade nickname is really, is really starting to show its name.
596
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,080
I think I was right.
597
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,080
Yeah.
598
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,080
I see the moment.
599
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:37,200
I was like, Oh, they were like, Oh, we, somebody quit.
600
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,200
We need somebody else.
601
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,080
I'm like, I'm your girl, you know?
602
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:47,280
And I weaseled my way to that department and I had a great mentor.
603
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,840
His name is Tom Vatican and we would call him TV for short.
604
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,680
And I kind of was assisting him the whole time.
605
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,880
And he let me do my first account was like, so basically what I was doing.
606
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,840
Was a band would be like, Hey, we're going to go on tour.
607
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,160
We need a whole merch line.
608
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,680
So my job was to say, okay, what style are we going for?
609
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:19,880
And then, then I would go to the art department and say, Hey, I need, you know, three hoodies,
610
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:26,640
two t-shirts, a mug, you know, whatever merch that was going to go on tour and then kind
611
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,840
of give them inspiration of what I wanted it to look like.
612
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,400
And then I'd have to present it to the band and they'd approve or disapprove it.
613
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,400
Oh, that's interesting.
614
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,400
Yeah.
615
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:43,600
What's the, not to catch up, what's the coolest thing in your opinion that you've had a hand
616
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:49,360
in designing for, for anything, not just necessarily bands, but any of the stuff you ever designed
617
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,800
there, what's, what's the coolest thing in your opinion that you've ever made?
618
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,800
Oh God.
619
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,080
I'm like so much.
620
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,720
You can give like a top three or four or five or whatever.
621
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:01,720
I mean, that also works out better.
622
00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:03,720
Does that have to be the absolute number one?
623
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:05,640
So, so wait, let me just tell you this.
624
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,600
So the first design I did or the first band I did was Disturbed.
625
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:11,600
Okay.
626
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:18,720
So here I am like this mom kind of like not into the like heavy stuff anymore, just like
627
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:23,400
having this little boy and I'm like disturbed and like, what the fuck?
628
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,400
Sorry.
629
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,800
Oh no, we're good.
630
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,520
This is without, this is without sensor.
631
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,680
There is no, you can, you can say fuck, you can say ass, titties, whatever, whatever you
632
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:31,680
feel like.
633
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:32,680
I mean, you can say, you can cuss.
634
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,680
I was trying not to cuss.
635
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,680
Oh yeah.
636
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:35,680
I probably should have told you that at the beginning.
637
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,680
Yeah.
638
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,680
You could, yeah, you could cuss as much as you want.
639
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,680
There is no, no limit here.
640
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,680
Unfiltered.
641
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:43,680
Yeah.
642
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:44,680
Yeah.
643
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:45,680
Okay.
644
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:51,020
So I went to like Barnes and Noble and I got Metal magazines and I just like started flipping
645
00:39:51,020 --> 00:39:52,020
through these things.
646
00:39:52,020 --> 00:39:53,960
I was like, okay, I need some inspiration.
647
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,600
Like what am I going to tell these artists to do for disturbed?
648
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,280
Like I don't really know them, but I started trying.
649
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,320
We, oh, we had my space and we didn't have Instagram or anything, you know?
650
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,640
So I was like, let me go on my space, check out their fan.
651
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:15,800
So my thing was like, I'm going to check out their fans, check them out and kind of make
652
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:21,520
my, my decisions and my inspiration by that, you know?
653
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:27,720
So then like I did 46 designs for them, like, or I, I, I, you know, sent art requests.
654
00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:34,920
So the artists did the designs, but I'm kind of like the maybe art direction at this point
655
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:42,140
and they all got approved like 46 of them, like, which was pretty, pretty cool for my
656
00:40:42,140 --> 00:40:44,400
first time doing it.
657
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:53,160
That's a perfect streak of 46 pieces of product that went through because of your, your handling,
658
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,720
your curation, your, your careful eye.
659
00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:58,760
That's amazing.
660
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:05,080
Yeah, that was, that was, so that was exciting, but like, it just got better.
661
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,720
You know, everything just got better.
662
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:16,120
Like I started, like I was, you know, I was able to work with Glenn Dandig, Red Hot Chili
663
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:24,440
Peppers, Rage Against the Machine, Marilyn Manson, you know, my, my colleague, Tom, he
664
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:30,000
would get like voicemails from Cher.
665
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,520
We did Paul McCartney.
666
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:41,800
My, I have two, like, I have a few shirts that I did for like Rage Against the Machine
667
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,400
and Deftones that I had samples of.
668
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,640
They weren't approved though.
669
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:53,880
So I really liked, and I have them, you know, like I have a few and I love those because
670
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:59,120
they weren't approved by the band, but I still have like a Rage Against the Machine shirt
671
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:04,080
that was inspired by maybe like a design that, you know what I mean, something I gave to
672
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:09,400
the artists and they designed it kind of thing.
673
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,440
I'm kind of at a loss of words right now.
674
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,120
This is like one of the coolest things I've ever heard in my life.
675
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,680
No, it really is.
676
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:24,080
I mean, you've, you've been involved in, had this type of interaction with so many top
677
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,440
tier artists as, as they would be referred to as, and that's pretty cool.
678
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,960
And you, and you design stuff that actually, you know, went, went through and got in.
679
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,320
So even though you have to send Adam a picture of the, the Red Hot, or the Rage Against the
680
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,440
Machine stuff that didn't get approved, just, just so we could see it.
681
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,520
Cause I'd just be curious to see what they rejected.
682
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,920
Cause you know, they probably have like hundreds of choices to choose from, right?
683
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,200
And then they're just, oh man, we got to whittle it down or, you know, whatever.
684
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,720
And then, and then it gets to, oh, these are the ones that didn't make it, but it would
685
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:54,760
be interesting to see what the ones that didn't make it look like.
686
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,760
Yeah.
687
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,760
Okay.
688
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,560
So some of my designs are some of the stuff I did, did make it right.
689
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,400
Like, and I kind of remember what tour or whatever I did it for, but some of it did,
690
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:10,000
just some of them didn't, but I have the samples of them that didn't, I will send you a picture
691
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,000
of them.
692
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,440
You know who the hardest one was and you wouldn't think so is Nine Inch Nails.
693
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:21,320
Nine Inch Nails because even though they have like this basic logo, which I think is probably
694
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:29,760
some of the smartest like marketing, that not that NIN and that box is so simple.
695
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,560
It's everywhere.
696
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,560
You can, you can just, everybody knows that symbol for the most part, you know?
697
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:36,560
Yeah.
698
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:44,120
It's so basic, but everything needed to be exactly like, if it was a centimeter off,
699
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,200
they weren't going to approve it, you know?
700
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,440
So it had to be very precise.
701
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,560
Very precise.
702
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:52,560
I get you.
703
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,440
It's, they're going for that.
704
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,800
It's a clean aesthetic is what it looks like to me.
705
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,800
It's very, what is it?
706
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:58,800
Like you said, simple.
707
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,120
And it's just, it's so, yeah, if it's off by, if something's not like me and Adam, we're
708
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,080
talking about our logos and stuff.
709
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,480
And I was suggesting something and Adam's like, no, it needs to be symmetry.
710
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,720
It needs to be across the same, everything across the board.
711
00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:12,720
Yeah.
712
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:13,720
Yeah.
713
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:19,960
I mean, have you, by chance, do you listen to Rick Rubin's podcast, Tetra, or I don't
714
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,200
think it was Tetragrammaton, but it was, I think it was a broken record and they had
715
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,680
Trent Reznor on, on that podcast.
716
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:33,120
And he seems like a very rigid person.
717
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,080
Like he likes his things his way.
718
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,640
And that's kind of scary.
719
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:45,400
Yeah, he's very, very precise when it comes to all of that.
720
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:51,520
Like, you know, it's like, I think I work well with artists, you know, like I, I'm like,
721
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,600
all right, like I get you like, okay, okay.
722
00:44:54,600 --> 00:45:00,200
You're, you're, you're, you know, I can, I can work with that, you know, like, like I
723
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:08,320
understand it's like not even a personal thing towards me, but it is a, a character kind
724
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:14,480
of, which any type of artists I'm always like more lenient with because I feel like it's
725
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,440
just, and maybe it's like, that's my flaw or whatever.
726
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:24,120
But for like, for me, when there's an artist type, I always like give them more room.
727
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,120
Yeah.
728
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:30,120
And you know, what's interesting that you say that is, is you yourself are essentially
729
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,320
an artist create helping to create art for other artists.
730
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,320
Right.
731
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,600
So if an artist, there's a lot of eclectic and crazy personalities, right.
732
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,320
When it comes to people who are artists.
733
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:46,160
And so I think that's a real genuine skill that you have developed or have that you can
734
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,160
actually take criticism, not take it personally and say, okay, cool.
735
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,360
Let's pivot and make this work to what you want.
736
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,360
You know what I'm saying?
737
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:55,360
Absolutely.
738
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,360
Absolutely.
739
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,360
I'm like, okay, okay.
740
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,880
Like you, I love to listen to them too.
741
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:05,280
Like, and I know this may sound a little bit profound maybe, but I always feel like art
742
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,000
artists are the closest people to God.
743
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,000
Yeah.
744
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,800
We've kind of had that conversation in the past about you're pulling from the ether or
745
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:19,080
whatever the universe, whatever you want to call it when you're in the act of creation.
746
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:24,440
And you know, yeah, like, like you said, that's as close to God as we will ever probably come.
747
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:31,600
The act, you know, yeah, because so many, and I've heard this from many different artists
748
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,520
and I'm like, always like, whoa, it sounds the same.
749
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,000
Like, I've heard this before.
750
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,880
And they say like, it was almost like, say if they wrote an album or something, it was
751
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:49,680
like, it was like, God, it was just coming through them, you know?
752
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:55,880
And so recently somebody told me, no, it's like, almost like, I'm talking to God.
753
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:01,200
And I was like, wow, okay, I haven't heard that way before, but I've heard the other
754
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,200
way, you know?
755
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:08,400
So I thought like, wow, like artists are really, you know, close, even though even if they
756
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:13,280
don't preach about it, or if they don't even know it, I feel like they're just like, they
757
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:18,200
just have this like, I don't know, this, they're a vessel.
758
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,080
Yeah, I definitely feel that.
759
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:27,080
I mean, I've only talked, I know you've probably talked to more artists, but every single one
760
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:33,200
of them that I've talked to, amongst the small amount of people I've talked to, I mean, they
761
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:41,400
have said something along the lines that they can't explain anything that they do.
762
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,400
They just do it.
763
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:47,520
And it's, as you were saying, it's something like a vessel for them to just create and
764
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:48,520
do things.
765
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,520
Like, they're on autopilot, in so many words.
766
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:58,320
And that's a really strange sensation to experience that for themselves.
767
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,120
And I'm like, well, I wish I had some of that.
768
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:06,960
I wish I could have some artistic talent, but I guess I'm just more of an observer.
769
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,720
And that's as much as I can be credited for.
770
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:15,720
Hey, that's important too, you know?
771
00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:16,720
Yeah.
772
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:23,160
And the observation, you know what I mean, being an observer is like taking it all in
773
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:27,360
and almost forming your own art, you know, in a weird way.
774
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,360
Yeah.
775
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:29,360
Because this is interesting.
776
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,600
This is the funny thing about artists.
777
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:37,160
I think this goes in every medium, but this, so say I would send an art request and be
778
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:42,960
like, hey, I need a bird on a blue shirt.
779
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,300
Right?
780
00:48:44,300 --> 00:48:47,600
And so then I send it to the artist and the artist is like, and then they send me this
781
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,600
something back and I'm like, what the fuck is this?
782
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:51,600
I asked, what is this?
783
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:56,160
And they were like, they were like, you said it a blue shirt with a bird on it.
784
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,600
And I'm like, I meant this.
785
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:05,800
And it's just so interesting how you could say one thing and it could translate so differently.
786
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,760
Like into what I'm saying, and I'm picturing in my head.
787
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,960
And then the artist is like picturing something completely different in their head.
788
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:14,960
You know?
789
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:15,960
Yeah.
790
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:23,120
And it's being able to articulate your thoughts in a way that can be digested by other people.
791
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,240
And that's, I mean, that in and of itself is a skill of its own, just to be able to
792
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:32,280
express what is in your brain in a manner that, you know, the person sitting next to
793
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,600
you could understand, you know?
794
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:35,600
Yes.
795
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,280
Yes, absolutely.
796
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:45,240
And if you don't mind us following up on the question that we asked a bit ago about, what
797
00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:46,640
did you ask the top three designs?
798
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:47,640
Oh yeah.
799
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,920
What were your, you know, give me some of your top designs that you've been involved
800
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:57,040
with or shirts or mugs or whatever, anything that you've designed in your career.
801
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,040
Okay.
802
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:03,640
So, so not, not me personally designing it because I, I never will want to come across
803
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,640
like I was the artist.
804
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:06,640
Okay.
805
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:12,080
So I think they're a merchandiser.
806
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,040
That's what my title was.
807
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:24,240
I, anything that you were tangentially involved in, in any way, shape or form.
808
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:25,240
Okay.
809
00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:26,240
Okay.
810
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:33,360
Honestly, I'm going to say, I'm going to say the, the death tones.
811
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:42,400
They had an album Saturday night wrist and they want it like a seventies, like porn by
812
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,840
kind of thing going on.
813
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,320
And it was really difficult to nail it for them.
814
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,960
Even though I thought I was nailing it, it was really hard.
815
00:50:50,960 --> 00:51:02,680
But at the end of the day, I think that's probably one of my favorites along with the
816
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:09,440
death tones shirt that wasn't approved.
817
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,440
It's a green.
818
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:11,440
It's really cool.
819
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:16,760
I'll send you, I have to send you guys a picture of that one and the rage.
820
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:17,760
Yeah.
821
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:26,320
The rage against the machine women shirt that I created that was not, not, it was rejected,
822
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,800
but it was just one from the thing.
823
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,400
So I'll send you, I'll send you pictures of those.
824
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:32,400
Yeah.
825
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,600
So what do they, when, when, when the design gets, let's say made and printed and then
826
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:42,040
can and then rejected, is it like when, you know, the losing super bowl team gets their
827
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,880
shirts sent to, you know, Sudan or whatever, for everybody to wear is you guys just ship
828
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:51,680
them off to other countries or do they just destroy them or what do they do with them?
829
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:52,680
No.
830
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:58,340
So usually they will never get produced unless there's they're approved.
831
00:51:58,340 --> 00:52:03,200
So we'll only sample six of them like that while we would only sample six.
832
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:04,440
So we'd only have six.
833
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,920
So we can send one to the band, someone to a manager, send it, you know what I mean?
834
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:14,600
We have one for ourselves, you know, and you know, everybody has a sample or whatever.
835
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,960
So that would be it.
836
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,200
So basically only six, you know what I mean?
837
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:26,680
Of the shirts are anywhere, you know, which is kind of cool.
838
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:27,680
That is kind of cool.
839
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,280
Do you see any of the rejections end up on eBay and, you know, like one of the people
840
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,240
has it still and then they just tried to hock it for like seven or eight hundred dollars
841
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:37,080
for an unprinted design shirt from your favorite band.
842
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,080
Here it is.
843
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:46,720
You know, I know I haven't seen any there yet, but you know, that's a good place.
844
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:48,520
I should probably check it out.
845
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:54,000
Hey, man, there could be a lot of money to be made there with unprinted shirt design.
846
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,000
Oh, yeah.
847
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,000
Yeah.
848
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,000
Right.
849
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,000
All right.
850
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,000
So I'm actually.
851
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,000
Wow.
852
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:08,400
I had like this whole question questions that I planned out, but this is like so much better.
853
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:09,400
I didn't.
854
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,240
Well, you know, it's conversational, right?
855
00:53:11,240 --> 00:53:14,640
You know, we're just we're just three people having a conversation about somebody's life
856
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,640
and you know how awesome they are.
857
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,640
Right.
858
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:18,640
Yeah.
859
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,280
But but if we got if you got questions, ask them, you know.
860
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:23,280
Yeah.
861
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,400
Well, OK.
862
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:33,040
Since I guess if you don't mind, maybe we can shift, shift topics a bit.
863
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:38,920
So I wanted to ask about maybe and maybe you've already mentioned them, but I was curious about
864
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:47,000
who somebody that's had a big personal impact on your life and why and who's been your biggest
865
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:53,360
supporter and are those the same person or are they two different people?
866
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,760
Like as far as music, correct?
867
00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,720
As far as you're just your life in general, like who's who's had a profound impact on
868
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:01,720
your life?
869
00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:13,680
Oh, a profound impact on my life would probably have to be my grandpa who has passed away,
870
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:19,800
but it would definitely have to be my grandpa.
871
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:27,840
He well, I grew up with him, so he kind of like was, you know, kind of like my dad father
872
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:37,360
figure and he was into he liked art, you know, and I didn't know that until like later on,
873
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:43,200
but I really he's always like using his hands like to create stuff.
874
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:49,720
And he noticed he he I felt like he saw me like he saw that I liked.
875
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:56,480
Music, he saw their like makeup and all that stuff and what and he would let me borrow
876
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:02,080
his video camera so I could what I would do is like make my cousins like I would make
877
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:09,640
my cousins get like I was I would choreograph and make them like perform like the bangles
878
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,600
walk like they need gypsum or something.
879
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,600
Oh yeah, let me learn a video camera.
880
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,320
I'd like do a whole production on it.
881
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:21,960
Funny thing is still I wasn't in the I was in the background, you know, and I just thought
882
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,960
about that right now.
883
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:29,840
Still in that way, you know, not being an artist, but behind the scenes kind of thing.
884
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:38,320
So just him, I would say my grandpa was, you know, definitely one of my biggest influences,
885
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:45,680
just the type of person he was just a hard worker, loved to sing and love movies and
886
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:52,400
he always loved technology and taught me, you know, swimming, biking, camping, fishing,
887
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,760
all that good stuff.
888
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:05,560
And as far as like, you know, my mom has been a huge like supporter in anything I want to
889
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:06,560
do.
890
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:14,000
Like, she never told me no, you know, even maybe if she should have, you know, she should
891
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,920
have said, no, you shouldn't be doing that shit.
892
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:24,480
You know, she would just be like, OK, OK, you know, like whatever I want to do.
893
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:33,040
And like with my sons, she has been so helpful to help me with them because I am a single
894
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:34,040
mom now.
895
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,440
I've been a single mom since 2015.
896
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:45,480
I was married for 14 years, so which my ex husband was a huge influence in music on me
897
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,600
as well.
898
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:56,560
And but and just completely inspired by my sons.
899
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:03,480
I can imagine because you know, before we hopped on this, before doing this podcast,
900
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:10,560
you mentioned one of your sons, Ficus, is a drummer and you yourself had experience
901
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:11,760
with drumming.
902
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:17,400
So was that something that you taught him or you just kind of provided the tools and
903
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,960
he figured drumming out for himself?
904
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:26,040
So actually, my son, Ficus, he is he plays guitar.
905
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,400
No, no worries.
906
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,640
My nephew, Johnny, he's the drummer.
907
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,640
Yeah.
908
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:42,480
So so Ficus, he's been, you know, ever since he was I don't even know how old I was.
909
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:49,640
I remember driving around and he was maybe in like he was eight years old maybe.
910
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,360
And he was seeing the police.
911
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,160
And I was and I was like, wait a minute.
912
00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:00,160
He's like seeing exactly on key, like every frickin note.
913
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,280
Like it was like it was blowing my mind.
914
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,680
And so then he was playing saxophone at school and he'd walk around the living room and he'd
915
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,200
be playing Mario Brothers on his saxophone.
916
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,040
I'd be like, Ficus, how do you know how to play that?
917
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:18,840
He's like, I can just hear it, you know, I'm like, oh, OK.
918
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:23,880
So it's all he's all auditory.
919
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,680
He can do accents and stuff.
920
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:30,360
You know, so anything he hears, he can like hit that note.
921
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:36,560
OK, so he just when it comes to anything, audio, he just picks up on it very quickly,
922
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,040
just off of off of his ear.
923
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,400
First, first impression.
924
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:41,400
Oh, no, I got it.
925
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,360
I I can play Super Mario Brothers on the sax.
926
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:45,360
No, no, no problem.
927
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:46,360
Oh, yeah, no problem.
928
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,360
And he was like, you know, this little guy.
929
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:55,520
And then I like, yeah, he was seeing the police and he would see everything because especially
930
00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:01,800
because my exes and I, it was like it was a lot of music, you know, a lot of music all
931
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,840
the time.
932
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:12,200
And when Ficus was and he was four, he was in preschool.
933
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,720
His favorite band was Minus the Bear.
934
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:22,160
And they were playing in L.A. at this place called Space Land.
935
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,040
And he was like, I want to go.
936
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,040
I want to go.
937
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,040
You can't go.
938
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,840
It's a bar.
939
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,120
And he was like, you know, I want to go.
940
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:36,880
He was like really smart, reading quickly, very, you know, mature for a four year old.
941
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:43,440
So I emailed the band and I was like, hey, I was like, my son wants to go watch you play.
942
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,840
But, you know, he's only four.
943
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,140
So is there anything you guys can do?
944
00:59:48,140 --> 00:59:56,040
So they let me take him to their sound check.
945
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:57,840
And Ficus was able to go.
946
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:58,840
He was only four.
947
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:04,280
He was able to sit at the bar, had a Shirley Temple and watch this band at their sound
948
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:05,280
check.
949
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:06,920
And then I just I wanted to come see at the show.
950
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:12,440
So you know, my mom came to pick him up and my exes and I enjoyed the show.
951
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,160
But yeah, it's Ficus.
952
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:17,160
That's pretty cool.
953
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:21,520
Not to not to overdo it on the ball washing here, but I just want to I just want to commend
954
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,440
you and just say, you know, single moms don't get enough credit.
955
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:30,480
And that is a that is a full time double overtime job in and of itself.
956
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:34,760
Just being a parent and the fact that you're doing it on your own, you're being a single
957
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,880
mom that that's I applaud you.
958
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,880
I give you any commendation that I can give.
959
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:44,680
I'd get you a medal if I had one to give, you know, because it's it really is.
960
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:45,680
It's difficult.
961
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:46,680
And listen, I'm lucky.
962
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:47,680
My wife does everything.
963
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,760
I'm Josh is good for playtime with the kid.
964
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:50,760
And that's about it.
965
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,880
You know, I don't really I don't do a lot.
966
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,800
And she does the most of everything.
967
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,120
And I couldn't imagine having to do that shit by myself.
968
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,400
So I just wanted to point that out and give you props for that.
969
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:02,400
Thank you.
970
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:03,400
Thank you.
971
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:10,560
I appreciate it is a very, very it's the most difficult job I've ever had.
972
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:18,080
Luckily, and I was able to also like be a stay at home mom for the first five years
973
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,480
that my youngest son was born.
974
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,840
So him and I would drop Ficus off at school.
975
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:28,240
Him and I'd go to Disneyland right after that and come home and watch the Aquabats, you
976
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,760
know, and like the best.
977
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:39,680
Like I feel like I've been able to like see both sides of that whole thing, which is interesting.
978
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:48,200
So I have a question to follow up with since we're on the subject of motherhood.
979
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:58,480
So as a mother and a professional, what what measures do you take to ensure quality time
980
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:03,200
with your children and also fulfilling your responsibilities?
981
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:10,240
Do you want to repeat that by chance?
982
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:11,920
You got cut off at the end.
983
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:12,920
I'm sorry.
984
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:13,920
Okay.
985
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,920
So I just wanted to ask as a mother and a professional, what measures do you take to
986
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:26,640
ensure quality time with your children while also fulfilling your responsibilities?
987
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,200
So that is a tough one.
988
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:38,720
That's that's a tough thing to balance is career and moming, you know.
989
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:47,720
But so this is one thing I have to say about the the music industry, the entertainment
990
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:56,040
industry, whatever, you know, you might want to call it is that it is so family friendly.
991
01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:05,300
I have taken my son to work with me so many times and not only in at the Fox Theater,
992
01:03:05,300 --> 01:03:09,600
but when I used to work in merch because I worked for another merch company, too.
993
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,760
And I would take him to work with me all the time.
994
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,640
And nobody said a word ever.
995
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,200
Nobody ever says a word.
996
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:22,360
I don't even know if you're allowed to take your children, but I would always bring my
997
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:28,400
child Oliver probably grew up for a few years at the Fox Theater.
998
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:33,920
He would just like had his iPad and go onto one of the balcony seats and chill there or
999
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:40,280
run around or just hang out, go to meetings with me.
1000
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:45,900
I'm also involved in different things like with downtown Pomona.
1001
01:03:45,900 --> 01:03:49,760
So just going to meetings and stuff when he was younger.
1002
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,040
Now that he's 13, he's like, now, Mom, I'm staying home.
1003
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:57,980
I'm not coming with you, you know.
1004
01:03:57,980 --> 01:04:01,560
So that's what it's kind of had to be.
1005
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:07,200
We once in a while go on trips together.
1006
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:14,040
I'm definitely I feel like I do even though Ficus is my oldest son, he's 21, even though
1007
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:15,040
he does.
1008
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,040
He lives in L.A. He doesn't live with me.
1009
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:22,360
I feel like I see him a lot because I always go to his gigs.
1010
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,080
So I'm able when I can when I'm not working.
1011
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:29,400
So I'm able to see him, you know, doing that, like hanging out there.
1012
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:34,200
You know, we go have like a lunch or a dinner or something.
1013
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:43,040
And like Oliver and I, we're going to be going to Hawaii in July, just spending some time
1014
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:44,040
there.
1015
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,860
So it's definitely a difficult balance.
1016
01:04:46,860 --> 01:04:52,400
And sometimes I feel super guilty about it because I'm like, oh, I just wish I could,
1017
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,880
you know, hang out with them all the time or let's be like this helicopter mom, you
1018
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,960
know, because I have that in me, too.
1019
01:04:59,960 --> 01:05:06,520
But then I'm like, I have this drive and passion.
1020
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:11,200
And I think it's important for my sons to see me fulfill that.
1021
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:19,760
Like I want to see them. I want them to see me living it up, like living to my potential
1022
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:30,600
and and my purpose, you know, on both ends as a as a mother and as a as a professional.
1023
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,200
Yes.
1024
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:37,160
And what what do each of your children mean to you?
1025
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:42,840
And what what's the best memory that you've had with each of them?
1026
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:48,720
So they're just both just me.
1027
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,800
They're both just so different.
1028
01:05:50,800 --> 01:06:00,440
Like Ficus, my older son, he looks like he's just like this tall, skinny, European looking
1029
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:01,440
dude.
1030
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,120
I didn't know he was going to be that tall.
1031
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,120
You know, I thought he was going to be shorter, you know.
1032
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:14,320
And this kid, he's just his soul is like this sweet, the sweetest soul.
1033
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,720
Like he's just he's gentle.
1034
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:30,440
He's he's just like I he's very like emotionally mature or I guess his emotional intelligence
1035
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,320
is pretty, pretty well.
1036
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,040
He's definitely he's definitely my son.
1037
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:41,600
He's he's very chill, too, sometimes too chill, sometimes like no sense of urgency, which
1038
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,120
is annoying to people.
1039
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,880
I'm like that's all I know.
1040
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,640
You know, and he's like that.
1041
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,280
So yeah.
1042
01:06:48,280 --> 01:07:01,560
And then Oliver, who is 13, this little dude is like he is like, oh, oh, he will.
1043
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:07,040
He's just brutal.
1044
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,840
He he he just he's just brutally honest.
1045
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:15,040
You know, he's like, Mom, you know, like, oh, ouch.
1046
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:19,880
You know, but like I told Ficus, I'm like, hey, Oliver's like the leader of the family.
1047
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:20,880
He's like, yeah, I know.
1048
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:25,080
I'm like, OK, as long as we know that even though he's a 13 year old, he's definitely
1049
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,760
you know, some some families have like the head of the family.
1050
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:35,320
Like I already know he's the head of the family, you know, like he's definitely the he won't
1051
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:36,920
have it any other way.
1052
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:38,520
And he he doesn't like music.
1053
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:42,800
Apparently he's like, I don't like music, even though like when he was four years old,
1054
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:47,920
I could hear him singing like Black Dog in the mirror, you know, and I was like, this
1055
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,200
kid is fucking singing Black Dog like by himself.
1056
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:57,480
He doesn't want anybody to see him, you know, or he'll sing Blue Bayou by Linda Ronstand
1057
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:01,920
like on key, you know, I'm like, Jesus, OK.
1058
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:08,440
That'll come back around in his later years, I think maybe maybe for now it's on reserve.
1059
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:09,440
The music.
1060
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,680
Well, you know, he's in his rebellious stage, right?
1061
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,400
Yeah, he's had to rebel against me.
1062
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:16,800
So how do you do that?
1063
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,600
I don't like music.
1064
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:27,360
Is that is that a bit of a dagger in your heart to not have to not have somebody that wants
1065
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:32,160
to be involved with music or just doesn't like music altogether?
1066
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,920
Because that's something that you you cherish deeply.
1067
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:39,400
And you know, it's just kind of funny.
1068
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,240
It's funny because it's him.
1069
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:46,000
So it's funny for me just because I'm also I know it's going to be like you're like,
1070
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,000
what next?
1071
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,040
I'm also a child development major in school.
1072
01:08:50,040 --> 01:09:00,280
I was so like I I love I love child development and I love to see like teenagers and just
1073
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:07,040
the way though, you know, he's trying to build autonomy for me because technically at this
1074
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:11,680
age, a human can go live on their own.
1075
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:17,480
But with our society and you know, because money and stuff like children stay with us
1076
01:09:17,480 --> 01:09:18,960
till they're 18.
1077
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:25,640
But technically, you know, he's able to go out and live on the you know, as innately.
1078
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,680
So so I think it's funny.
1079
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:35,440
Like I'm like having a blast watching him, you know, behave like this and like I'm like
1080
01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:41,800
loving it, you know, because I know it goes by quickly and then he'll be an adult, you
1081
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,320
know, 21 living in L.A. or something.
1082
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:49,720
So I'm just going to enjoy this like teenager stuff now, you know?
1083
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:56,040
Yeah, I've heard before that this is from, you know, numerous parents that say those
1084
01:09:56,040 --> 01:10:00,040
first four years are like probably the golden years.
1085
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:04,560
And even up until 14, it's like that that will happen at like a flashpoint.
1086
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:08,160
It will happen so quickly that you it'll make your head spin.
1087
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:09,960
Is that kind of been your experience so far?
1088
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:14,080
Is that you've enjoyed all these moments, but like, you know, you can't spend enough
1089
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:15,080
time with them.
1090
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:22,480
Yeah, yeah, I just try to get like as much as I can, especially knowing how like, you
1091
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:26,480
know, once they turn like a certain age, they don't really want to hang out with you that
1092
01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:27,960
much anymore.
1093
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:32,360
Even Oliver will be like, Mom, I'm becoming a teenager, probably not going to be hanging
1094
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:33,360
out with you as much.
1095
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:34,680
And I'm like, what?
1096
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:38,040
Wait a minute, you know, he's already like preparing me.
1097
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:42,840
Hey, hey, woman, relax.
1098
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,560
I don't want to be hanging out with you because I'm like, you want to go to the scene?
1099
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:46,560
He's like, just with you.
1100
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:47,560
Oh, my God.
1101
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:56,440
So so yeah, so just like I said, just enjoying it.
1102
01:10:56,440 --> 01:10:59,320
It does go by just like a flash.
1103
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:06,200
I was just I'm glad I just got to spend those like those those years from when he was like
1104
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:12,360
one to five with him, you know, with him and my and Ficus because Ficus was like in his
1105
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:16,680
like, you know, middle school a, you know, time and stuff like that.
1106
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,400
So I was able to like spend so much time with them.
1107
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:24,800
I was even in charge of the talent show at Ficus's school, which, interestingly enough,
1108
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,240
I had brought it over to the Fox Theater.
1109
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:31,840
I didn't work there or anything yet, but I just wanted a bigger platform for the kids
1110
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:32,840
for their talent show.
1111
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:36,760
So we had it at the Fox Theater and was really cool.
1112
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:41,360
How did you get involved with the Fox here now that now we can get to the the events
1113
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:46,720
manager role and how how did this all come to be?
1114
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:53,560
OK, so OK, so I was like, what was I doing?
1115
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:54,560
OK.
1116
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,360
So I was getting divorced.
1117
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,640
It was like 2015.
1118
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:01,640
I was getting divorced.
1119
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,000
I'm trying to go back.
1120
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,280
I was getting divorced.
1121
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:10,440
I was an artist assistant at the time, and I also worked at a place called T-Shirt in
1122
01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:11,440
in San Clemente.
1123
01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:12,440
It's another merch company.
1124
01:12:12,440 --> 01:12:16,600
They do like Blink 182, Minor Threat, the Pixies.
1125
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,760
Very cool stuff.
1126
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:23,600
But then I met Gallo.
1127
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:29,580
I met him at the DBA Pomona and him and I just like instantly hit it off because we
1128
01:12:29,580 --> 01:12:32,560
both just love music.
1129
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,600
And then we were the same age.
1130
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:35,600
Like he's from Chicago.
1131
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,480
You know, we just hit it off.
1132
01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:44,400
And I was like, let's do an art show at your loft.
1133
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:48,320
So him and I did this little art show.
1134
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,100
Like I got one of my artist friends.
1135
01:12:50,100 --> 01:12:56,400
He got this girl who was an artist and we opened up his loft and did this art show together.
1136
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,440
And then whatever, we're just friends.
1137
01:12:59,440 --> 01:13:01,800
We'd always hang out, go to shows and stuff.
1138
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:09,800
And then he got a job at the Fox Theater.
1139
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,280
And then I'd like help him with paperwork.
1140
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:15,000
I'm like filing his paperwork.
1141
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:20,080
I'm filing your paperwork to keep it organized and stuff like that.
1142
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:21,760
And he's like, hey, I need your help.
1143
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,360
Can you work the door for me?
1144
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:24,360
I'm like, for who?
1145
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:25,360
He's like, oh, Nipsey Hussle.
1146
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:26,360
And I was like, who?
1147
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:27,360
He's like Nipsey Hussle.
1148
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,680
And I was like, okay.
1149
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,360
So that was the first time I worked the door at the Fox Theater.
1150
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:34,860
It was for Nipsey Hussle.
1151
01:13:34,860 --> 01:13:39,860
That was Gallo's first like big show there.
1152
01:13:39,860 --> 01:13:42,240
And he didn't pay me.
1153
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,160
And he said there wasn't enough in the budget.
1154
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:49,440
So I still tell him, I'm like, Gallo, you still haven't paid me for Nipsey Hussle.
1155
01:13:49,440 --> 01:13:55,640
Working the door for you.
1156
01:13:55,640 --> 01:14:01,000
So eventually they hired me on.
1157
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:08,240
That's when I was like, oh my God, this whole other world kind of came to life.
1158
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:16,880
Like the opportunity, the opportunity, I can't even like, I don't know how it happened.
1159
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:17,880
Right?
1160
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:21,320
Like I don't know how I got there.
1161
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:25,280
But I did somehow, you know?
1162
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,320
And so then I'm there.
1163
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:29,500
And I'm Gallo's assistant.
1164
01:14:29,500 --> 01:14:33,760
So he does the booking, production, all that stuff.
1165
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:34,760
And I'm his assistant.
1166
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:39,880
But I'm just like learning how to do everything, like all the paperwork, getting like all the
1167
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:45,960
public service, like making sure that's taken care of, like doing the profit and loss sheet.
1168
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:51,720
So any income coming, any like stuff going out, I'm taking care of all of this stuff.
1169
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:57,840
Like just, you know, kind of like more and more is like kind of getting put on my plate
1170
01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:59,000
as I go in.
1171
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:08,560
And then we start doing these little shows, these little baby amazing shows on the rooftop.
1172
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:17,960
And I remember, you know, some of the first ones were Sin and Passion.
1173
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,320
I just completely fell in love with them.
1174
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,200
I was like, I didn't know.
1175
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,240
Like how would anybody, you know what I mean?
1176
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:30,680
How would I ever know that there was such talent in this, you know, all this talent
1177
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:36,840
all around, you know, that nobody, they need a platform somehow, you know?
1178
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:41,080
Like there's all these kids around me and they're all freaking talented.
1179
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:42,360
Like what the fuck?
1180
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,380
Like I was amazed.
1181
01:15:44,380 --> 01:15:49,840
And there was like this one band, what were they called?
1182
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:50,840
Bloom?
1183
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:52,680
Bloom, maybe.
1184
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:58,080
I think they were called Bloom and they had this one song and I was like, that song's
1185
01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:59,080
a hit.
1186
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,040
Like I could hear the hit.
1187
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:07,720
Oh, they were called The Sweats and they're called The Sweats.
1188
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:12,480
And the song was called Bloom and I could not get that song out of my head.
1189
01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:14,440
Like it was like on repeat.
1190
01:16:14,440 --> 01:16:17,320
It was one of the, it was the lazy eye, you know?
1191
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:18,320
Right.
1192
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:19,320
Song.
1193
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:20,320
It was that song.
1194
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:21,640
And it's like such a hit.
1195
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,960
Like anytime I show it, it's like addicting.
1196
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:30,160
It's like poppy, but like, you know, it's very cool.
1197
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,040
And so we, oh, go ahead.
1198
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,040
Oh no, no, go ahead.
1199
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:40,680
So we just started, we just, it was like a snowball effect.
1200
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:46,640
It was just like, as soon as, as soon as that rooftop started going off, it was like just
1201
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:51,840
the ambiance that we would, we would put all, all of our blood, sweat and tears into that
1202
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:59,160
rooftop from the hospitality to making sure the, you know, there's a projection on the
1203
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:04,720
tower to making sure we had the correct wristbands, parking pass, you know what I mean?
1204
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,520
Just making it as professional.
1205
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:13,640
And you know, we want it to be like, um, somewhere the kids can be like, yeah, I played at the
1206
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:15,320
Fox theater.
1207
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:22,080
Like it, it wasn't going to be the DBA or the no disrespect to any of the smaller places,
1208
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,080
but this is something different.
1209
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:25,080
You're playing there.
1210
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:29,760
You may be able to play here, you know, like this is, this is where you want to come from
1211
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:30,760
there.
1212
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:34,600
You know, you want to come here and then like, then go on, you know, and they, all the kids
1213
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,300
play to all the little venues around here.
1214
01:17:37,300 --> 01:17:42,520
You know, they, they play all of them, but I want, we wanted to make it this, like, you
1215
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:46,720
know, where you got the, you got treated special with your wristband, you know what I mean?
1216
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:51,600
Your artists wristbands and your, you know, whatever it was, like we wanted to make sure
1217
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:55,800
that artists had that feeling when they got there.
1218
01:17:55,800 --> 01:18:01,880
And we wanted to do all ages because we wanted the kids that aren't 18 to be able to have
1219
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:05,280
a place to come and hang out and watch bands.
1220
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:13,000
Yeah, a few of my favorite shows that I've been to as far as the rooftop shows that you
1221
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:18,640
guys have done, probably number one was the first one, which was the tracks is the headliner
1222
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:24,000
stuff Redux, I think cigarette bums and one other band, but it was like the visuals that
1223
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,920
were projected on the wall.
1224
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:32,880
It was, it was like the music reverberating into Pomona itself.
1225
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:37,240
It just, it was a very cool night and then also there was the Halloween show with sunset
1226
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:42,080
roller coaster and endless retros for a Halloween show.
1227
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:43,540
That was really cool.
1228
01:18:43,540 --> 01:18:47,360
And a daydream time machine for Valentine's.
1229
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:53,880
Just a number of great shows and it, I just, I can't explain into words what the experience
1230
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:58,720
is like, but I would recommend anybody that loves music to go out to these events.
1231
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:06,480
Because I think, I think they'll love it as much as I do and yeah, let's see.
1232
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:07,480
I'm sorry.
1233
01:19:07,480 --> 01:19:08,480
Did you have anything else to add?
1234
01:19:08,480 --> 01:19:16,440
Yeah, no, I remember those shows, especially the tracks that night.
1235
01:19:16,440 --> 01:19:19,880
That was so magical.
1236
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:21,520
What a show that was.
1237
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:27,640
Yeah, we've just had another beautiful thing is sometimes the kids that are playing on
1238
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:33,800
that rooftop, they're able to sometimes get onto the main stage in a few years.
1239
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:37,080
You know, they, they go through the, they go through the glass house, they go through
1240
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:40,760
all these other venues and come back to the Fox and now they're on the main stage.
1241
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:41,760
Yeah.
1242
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:47,480
So it's very cool to see who was it that I've just, oh, I can't even think of them.
1243
01:19:47,480 --> 01:19:51,640
I'll think of it and I'll let you know who, what one band that we definitely have had
1244
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:55,560
on the rooftop and on the main stage.
1245
01:19:55,560 --> 01:20:00,360
One person, I, or rather one group that I can think of maybe that might be who you're
1246
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,480
looking for.
1247
01:20:03,480 --> 01:20:07,240
And I've, Gallo has been like a champion for them a heap.
1248
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:14,240
I remember he posted like a video set at this, I don't know if I should say anything about
1249
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:21,800
this place, but the secret, the secret location that is being worked on, but I don't want
1250
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:25,120
to say anything, but yeah, I've, Death Lens.
1251
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:30,200
Death Lens has been a band that he's been championing and I don't know if you were,
1252
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:37,320
did you have just as much a hand in bringing them into the fold and such?
1253
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:43,120
You know, no, that's definitely, definitely Gallo.
1254
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:49,360
Death Lens is definitely, you know, Gallo has been behind them and has just been, you
1255
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:56,760
have believed in them, you know, since they started playing and has, you know, did that,
1256
01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:05,440
the video at the cathedral where Gallo is actually working now and that's where he moved
1257
01:21:05,440 --> 01:21:06,760
on to.
1258
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:15,800
So with Gallo moving on to the cathedral, I basically now am the production manager
1259
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,200
and booking at the Fox theater.
1260
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:19,520
Oh wow.
1261
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:27,680
So yeah, I moved on to that position in October.
1262
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,640
That's kind of a, that's a big step up.
1263
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:31,640
Yeah.
1264
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:37,640
How do you feel about it?
1265
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,640
You know, it's very, it's, I love it.
1266
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:51,760
I wish I had more time in my day to do more because I have ideas, you know, I have ideas
1267
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:55,000
and that's the one thing people don't understand.
1268
01:21:55,000 --> 01:22:02,840
I think about a venue is everybody has a lot of ideas, but execution is a whole other playing
1269
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:09,920
field, you know, like ideas great, but putting the idea into action and making it happen,
1270
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:14,480
you know, is a whole other, it takes a lot of manpower.
1271
01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:15,800
It takes a lot of money.
1272
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:22,680
It takes a lot of everything to get one event done, you know.
1273
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:32,360
So just balancing that, I think can make me successful in this position.
1274
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,480
And that's what I'm working on now.
1275
01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:42,320
Yeah, that is certainly a big responsibility to have and you know, something that Gala
1276
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:47,720
was telling me about, I think, I don't know how many months, I'll just say several months.
1277
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:54,200
Several months ago you had the Color Haiku Festival at the Fox Theater itself, which
1278
01:22:54,200 --> 01:23:00,160
was the festival that featured artists that make the graphic designs and poster art for
1279
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,480
a lot of the top artists.
1280
01:23:02,480 --> 01:23:08,720
So what could you tell me about the event that you put together?
1281
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:21,600
Okay, so Color Haiku, which is an art festival, poster art festival that myself and Jose
1282
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:30,280
Mercado, who is month one, him and I founded Color Haiku.
1283
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:39,880
Basically we're showcasing rock poster artists, you know, not only rock, but mostly rock poster
1284
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:44,920
artists and other genres of music and sometimes film.
1285
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:50,760
Any graphic designers that do these things, we're showcasing them.
1286
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:57,920
There's basically, so I was Jose's assistant, his artist assistant for a few years.
1287
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:04,000
I would send all his posters out, I started getting into really learning about, because
1288
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,920
I worked with him at Giant Merchandising when I first started doing it.
1289
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,520
So he's one of the artists that worked with me.
1290
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:21,400
He's done everything from 311 to Metallica to Pearl Jam to Bruno Mars, everything, posters.
1291
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:28,280
And so what I would do is we would put his posters on sale and it was so amazing because
1292
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:33,800
he would get like say 100 posters and he would sign and number these posters and we'd put
1293
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:39,680
them on sale and within like a few minutes all of them out, you know, all of them would
1294
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:41,120
just like sell out.
1295
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:45,680
And then we'd see some on eBay or something that were like for sale because they're collector's
1296
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,120
items.
1297
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:50,220
So it was really, really cool.
1298
01:24:50,220 --> 01:24:55,160
And so one time we went to Seattle for this Pearl Jam convention.
1299
01:24:55,160 --> 01:25:00,160
It was like all the poster artists that work on Pearl Jam stuff were at this convention
1300
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,360
and I was like, oh, this is really cool.
1301
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:07,360
So I was there with Monk and his wife and we were, you know, doing the Monk One posters,
1302
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,400
like we were selling them and talking to people and stuff.
1303
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:15,360
Anyhow, so that was like, oh, well, you know, then I worked for another t-shirt company
1304
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:18,240
and then then then I might go and all that stuff.
1305
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:25,960
So then I don't even know why I thought of this, but I was like, Jose, I asked my friend,
1306
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:30,760
I'm like, hey, why isn't there a poster show in Southern California?
1307
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:36,440
I said there's Flat Stock at South by Southwest in Texas.
1308
01:25:36,440 --> 01:25:40,180
There's TRPS, which is in Northern California.
1309
01:25:40,180 --> 01:25:43,600
How is there no rock poster show in Southern California?
1310
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:44,600
Like what?
1311
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:45,600
Hollywood's here.
1312
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:50,360
I was just like, my mind was boggled and I said, if I had one, like I was just like,
1313
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:51,760
if I had one, would you be in it?
1314
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,920
And he was like, like be part of it or be in it.
1315
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,600
And I was like, you want to be a part of it?
1316
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:01,000
And he was like, yeah.
1317
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:04,680
And okay, I'm a woman with ideas, right?
1318
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:14,840
But executing ideas is not my like biggest thing, you know, because it takes so much.
1319
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:20,240
Now Monk, one, Jose, he's amazing at execution.
1320
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,920
He's detailed.
1321
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:28,880
He is over the top in investing, you know?
1322
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:35,560
So he's basically, if it was up to me, I would have been like, eh, you know, like, I don't
1323
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:40,120
know if I would have done it, you know, to be honest, like that's probably like my flaw.
1324
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:45,520
Like I'm like, yeah, that's a cool idea, but go for it, run with it, you know?
1325
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:50,680
But he's made me like stick to this idea and I appreciate him and his wife for making me
1326
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:58,160
do this, you know, because it has grown and evolved to something so beautiful and like
1327
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:01,440
they put so much of their love and heart into it.
1328
01:27:01,440 --> 01:27:07,560
And it makes me feel so proud, like to be able to work on this as a co-founder of Color
1329
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,520
Height Crew with them.
1330
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:17,560
And we brought this idea to the, and so the reason I bring the, I'm sorry, the Seattle
1331
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:22,520
thing up is because in my head, I pictured the Fox Theater, like the theater in Seattle,
1332
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:26,400
and I said, oh, we can have a poster show there, you know?
1333
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:32,160
And that's kind of how I thought about like the idea of having a poster show.
1334
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:38,400
And then, so last year was our first one, that was our inaugural, you know, Color Height
1335
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:47,120
Crew poster show, and we're having our second one July 13th will be our second Color Height
1336
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:50,040
Crew event.
1337
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:59,160
And it's Color Height Crew because when these artists decide, oh, they're going to print
1338
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:07,160
something, sometimes a poster, say if you look at a poster, it could have 15 colors,
1339
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:08,160
right?
1340
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,640
Like different colors, different shades.
1341
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:16,000
Sometimes you only have six screens to work with.
1342
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,880
So it's like a, a, a, a high coup here.
1343
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:24,480
It's like you have to figure out how you're going to make all these colors with only six
1344
01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:25,480
screens.
1345
01:28:25,480 --> 01:28:26,480
Right.
1346
01:28:26,480 --> 01:28:27,480
It's amazing.
1347
01:28:27,480 --> 01:28:33,960
Yeah, I got to say my personal experience, I didn't really know what to expect.
1348
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:41,260
I just got, you know, I got the invitation or whatever, and I was like, what's going
1349
01:28:41,260 --> 01:28:42,260
on here?
1350
01:28:42,260 --> 01:28:44,760
So I walked through the halls and I just see all this amazing art.
1351
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:50,800
I mean, I saw, I don't remember the person's name, but they had art featured from, you
1352
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:58,280
know, Wu Ting Clan and my personal favorite for whatever reason.
1353
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:03,800
Well the three that I really, well in addition to Monk One, the three additional ones I really
1354
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:10,720
enjoyed were Gig Art, Lil Tuffy and Ad Noise Studios.
1355
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:19,480
The Gig Art person had this Tamen, this Tamen Paula poster and it looked like psychedelic
1356
01:29:19,480 --> 01:29:22,680
colors with like a spirograph pattern on it.
1357
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:23,880
And it was for Tamen Paula.
1358
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:25,560
I'm like, this is the coolest thing ever.
1359
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:31,640
And I didn't buy it, I should have, but I ended up buying a poster from Lil Tuffy, this
1360
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,160
really trippy thundercat poster.
1361
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:38,000
Yeah, but it was, I mean, the whole experience was great.
1362
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:39,960
And the music, how about the music?
1363
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:46,160
How was the music curated and how did you, the bands, how were they selected?
1364
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:48,120
Okay so that was Gallo.
1365
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:52,920
Gallo was in charge of the curating the music on the rooftop.
1366
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:57,360
And that's how Gallo was involved in Color Haiku.
1367
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:01,620
He curated the music, the bands.
1368
01:30:01,620 --> 01:30:06,480
And yeah, that was a big part of like what we wanted to do.
1369
01:30:06,480 --> 01:30:09,760
We wanted to like get, and we want it just to grow from there.
1370
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:11,640
That was our first one.
1371
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:18,360
And we, you know, this year we plan on, you know, a little bit more surprises and whatnot.
1372
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:20,640
So we're excited about that.
1373
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:25,200
And on the website, I would check back every so often, but I don't know if this is something
1374
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:30,680
that recently happened, but you mentioning the date, July 13th, I saw that.
1375
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:37,160
I don't know if it was added onto the website recently or that's always been there.
1376
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:40,040
Do you happen to manage the website by chance?
1377
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:44,760
I do not manage the website, but I think it is on there now.
1378
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:45,760
Okay.
1379
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:47,920
So it was something that I think I just checked up.
1380
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:51,320
Yeah, it just happened to really just decide it recently.
1381
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:52,320
Okay.
1382
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:53,320
Yeah.
1383
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:58,920
So for anybody that doesn't know, this happens at the Fox Theater Pomona.
1384
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:03,560
It's a really fantastic festival that I got to experience and I'm sure I'll be revisiting
1385
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:08,760
once more.
1386
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:14,020
If we could do our part, like, do you think we could somehow be involved?
1387
01:31:14,020 --> 01:31:19,120
If it's just as simple as sharing posts about the, you know, any videos or photos that you
1388
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:21,400
have of the event, I would love to share that.
1389
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:24,360
So more people attend.
1390
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:30,440
I did have three or four people that after I talked about the festival, they wanted to
1391
01:31:30,440 --> 01:31:33,040
attend and they didn't know like where to find that information.
1392
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:37,520
So I would be more than willing to like help out in whatever way to just share that information.
1393
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,560
Absolutely.
1394
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:40,880
That would be wonderful.
1395
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:41,880
Yeah.
1396
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:57,520
The website is actually colorhiku.com and it's c-o-l-o-u-r and then hiku-h-a-i-k-u.com.
1397
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:05,480
I was even thinking maybe you guys want to, maybe I can set you guys up in one of the,
1398
01:32:05,480 --> 01:32:10,640
like maybe the flyaway or something if you guys want to like podcast or something.
1399
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:11,880
That might be kind of cool.
1400
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:12,880
Oh yeah.
1401
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:13,880
I'd be too.
1402
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:14,880
Yes.
1403
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:15,880
We'd be down for that for sure.
1404
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:16,880
That'd be sweet.
1405
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:17,880
Cause Adam hyped this whole event up too.
1406
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:22,480
Cause we did a whole episode on our All Gas No Trash, the music podcast and he was talking
1407
01:32:22,480 --> 01:32:24,520
about it and I was like, damn, I should have went to this.
1408
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:25,520
What is wrong with me?
1409
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:26,520
I should have went.
1410
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:32,480
So I definitely need to go to the upcoming one in July for sure.
1411
01:32:32,480 --> 01:32:33,480
Yeah.
1412
01:32:33,480 --> 01:32:34,480
You definitely have to come.
1413
01:32:34,480 --> 01:32:36,600
You know what's funny is this is the thing.
1414
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:38,240
This is a funny thing about artists.
1415
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:43,320
So we were eating, I was eating with, I think a little toughie was with us.
1416
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:50,640
We were having dinner after like a late dinner and all the artists were like, oh, look at
1417
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:53,160
that picture over there.
1418
01:32:53,160 --> 01:33:01,240
Like their artists are so, they notice every single thing, detail around them.
1419
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:08,120
And even in a restaurant, they're like, look at that pink, that pink heart over there and
1420
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:09,120
the TV next to it.
1421
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:11,600
Like there is so interesting.
1422
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:16,680
Like just to hear, just the way an artist's brain thinks, it's just like fascinating.
1423
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:17,680
Fascinating to me.
1424
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:18,680
Yeah.
1425
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:24,960
To hear them talk shit about the decor in the restaurant that they're at.
1426
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:26,960
This decor is so pedestrian.
1427
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,960
It was so good.
1428
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:34,640
They were like, what's going on in here?
1429
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,720
I was like, this is so good.
1430
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:41,440
They're critiquing the shit out of Luchador.
1431
01:33:41,440 --> 01:33:48,520
It was so funny and so interesting.
1432
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:54,920
And the funny thing is little toughie, that artist, he's actually the one South by Southwest,
1433
01:33:54,920 --> 01:34:00,560
I mean, Flat Stop, which is the biggest poster show, that's his poster show.
1434
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,160
So it's really cool.
1435
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:04,400
I know.
1436
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:05,840
I'm so excited.
1437
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:11,280
I'm so excited that he was part of our poster show.
1438
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:13,200
That was pretty special.
1439
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:18,560
So the individuals or rather the artists that were involved, did you have a relationship
1440
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:23,720
with them prior or was it through a monk that you were kind of, you were brought into the
1441
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:25,320
fold with them?
1442
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:26,600
Yeah.
1443
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:31,920
So basically a monk in charge of curating the artist.
1444
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:39,760
So I did know one of the artists, one of the artists I worked with before at a merch company.
1445
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:45,640
So a few of the artists I knew from a merch company I worked from before, but Jose Monk
1446
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:54,040
one is him and his wife, she's actually an artist too, she doesn't do any of like the
1447
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:58,880
poster arts or anything like that, but she's definitely an artist.
1448
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:06,880
So yeah, everything else, they definitely curated the, bringing the artist in with them
1449
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:08,240
and stuff.
1450
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:09,240
Okay.
1451
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:12,800
How much time do we do?
1452
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:15,840
We're at an hour 35, but I mean like we can go to whenever.
1453
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:16,840
Oh my goodness.
1454
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:23,400
And I will say this, an hour and 35 of excellent riveting conversation because this has just
1455
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:24,400
been so good.
1456
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:25,400
Yeah.
1457
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:28,880
I mean, I had this impression of you and it's, I'm like, I thought you were cool.
1458
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:36,040
And then it turns out you're like, oh mega cool.
1459
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:41,320
You're far more dangerous than I thought.
1460
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:47,280
So I just had, unless I'll let you take it after I ask this question.
1461
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:48,280
Yeah, go for it.
1462
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:49,280
All right.
1463
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:53,120
So I just wanted to ask like some fun questions.
1464
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:56,400
Let me pull them up real quickly.
1465
01:35:56,400 --> 01:36:10,720
So what are your top five artists of all time?
1466
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:11,720
Top five artists.
1467
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:12,720
Okay.
1468
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,880
Adam with the, Adam always has to ask the hard questions.
1469
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:19,360
He's got to, he's got to ask the ones that require thought and you got to sit there and
1470
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:23,400
you got to go, God dang, God damn, who do I really absolutely fucking love?
1471
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,080
And then I don't want to leave anybody off this list.
1472
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:28,320
Cause then if I piss somebody off, then that might suck too.
1473
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,320
And then you just, you just got to think about it.
1474
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:31,320
Yeah.
1475
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:35,720
You know, it's just, you know, I'm probably not going to piss off anybody on my list cause
1476
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:38,480
they probably don't know I am alive.
1477
01:36:38,480 --> 01:36:44,200
So I, I love the Beatles.
1478
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:45,200
Okay.
1479
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:52,000
Beatles all around, you know, Beatles people say they're, if anybody says people, Beatles
1480
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:56,880
are overrated or whatever, I just don't even want to talk to them because it's like so
1481
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:57,880
much more.
1482
01:36:57,880 --> 01:36:58,880
Yeah.
1483
01:36:58,880 --> 01:36:59,880
Okay.
1484
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:03,480
My wife is, is a Beatles person and I just love antagonizing her.
1485
01:37:03,480 --> 01:37:06,000
So I always say whenever she says something, I was like, oh, they're, they're, they're
1486
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:07,000
overrated.
1487
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:10,640
I always say, I'm going to piss her off cause I know it's just send her into a, into a rant
1488
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:11,920
about why they're the greatest.
1489
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:13,440
And I'm like, listen, yeah, I know I get it.
1490
01:37:13,440 --> 01:37:14,440
All right.
1491
01:37:14,440 --> 01:37:15,440
I just, just like fucking with you.
1492
01:37:15,440 --> 01:37:16,440
It's funny, but
1493
01:37:16,440 --> 01:37:17,440
Okay.
1494
01:37:17,440 --> 01:37:21,920
So I know it sounds like a cliche video, but you know, and this is so funny because like,
1495
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:29,560
I realized that when I get into music, most of the time it's like because of something,
1496
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:30,560
right?
1497
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:31,720
It's just like a lot.
1498
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:37,000
I'm not the person who will hear something and be like automatically into it for the
1499
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:44,920
most part, unless it just blows my mind for the most part, it usually has an emotion attached
1500
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:47,800
to it or something else.
1501
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:52,240
Because the Beatles, I wasn't even into like, like I remember a boyfriend of mine in the
1502
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:53,240
nineties was like, oh, the Beatles.
1503
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:54,240
And I was like, oh cool.
1504
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:56,560
You know, but I was like, whatever.
1505
01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:04,200
But then later this other boyfriend of mine was like, like obsessed with the Beatles.
1506
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:06,920
And that's when I really got into them.
1507
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:13,320
I really dug deep into the Beatles and dissected them, you know, basically.
1508
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:19,640
Because you know, sometimes I feel like you're just not ready for something, you know, like
1509
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:21,360
there's been time, you know what I mean?
1510
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:26,760
I remember like just listening to NIB from Black Sabbath the other day and I was like,
1511
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:31,000
oh my God, this reminds me of like in the nineties when I first started listening to
1512
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:35,960
Black Sabbath, before that I wasn't ready for Black Sabbath, you know?
1513
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:42,840
And so, so definitely the Beatles is one of my favorites.
1514
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:47,440
Oh, I can't, oh, do I, this is so hard.
1515
01:38:47,440 --> 01:38:56,240
I know, you know, I, right now I just, just, oh, okay.
1516
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:57,240
Modest Mouse.
1517
01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:59,440
I love Modest Mouse.
1518
01:38:59,440 --> 01:39:06,880
I love Modest Mouse because I feel like they talk about the stories, their songs are like
1519
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:07,880
stories.
1520
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:14,240
Like you'll hardly ever find a love song in a Modest Mouse song.
1521
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:19,840
Like it's rare, like I try to find love songs, but they're never a love song.
1522
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:22,760
And it's weird because I'm like such a romantic.
1523
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:28,600
So for one of my favorite bands to be Modest Mouse is like, it's more of like life experiences
1524
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:34,200
that I could relate to that, you know, when I first heard Modest Mouse, Lonesome Crowd
1525
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:42,980
at West, like that album is like, you know, flawless in my, in my eyes, you know?
1526
01:39:42,980 --> 01:39:51,200
So definitely Modest Mouse is, is a big, a big deal for me.
1527
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:54,920
Who else do I love?
1528
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:59,520
I love Radiohead.
1529
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:07,600
You know, I like the complexity of it.
1530
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:16,000
And the musicianship is like, just kind of out of this world, like watching them live
1531
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:20,160
is like a spiritual experience for me.
1532
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:27,240
You know, whenever I've watched Radiohead and Thom Yorke's voice is like probably one
1533
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:29,240
of the greatest of our generation.
1534
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:34,480
It was like a choir boy gone wrong kind of thing.
1535
01:40:34,480 --> 01:40:40,760
That's a funny way to put it.
1536
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:46,400
Did you happen to see that whole session they did in a basement?
1537
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:50,960
I don't know if that's like a, if it was like a specific studio or anything like that, but
1538
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:57,720
they did a whole session of just music that they played.
1539
01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:00,040
And did you happen to see that?
1540
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:01,040
No.
1541
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,520
Oh, I'll have to send you the link for it.
1542
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:04,520
It's freaking amazing.
1543
01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:11,720
And they played Where I End and You Begin from, what was that album that was before,
1544
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:17,600
or rather when did that album come out?
1545
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:26,360
It was the, it was the album that had There There and Mxomotosis or something like that.
1546
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:28,000
Oh no, I'm forgetting.
1547
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:34,040
Anyways, you have to see it because they play a lot of the stuff from In Rainbows and they
1548
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:39,920
play Where I End and You Begin and I forgot what other songs, but just an amazing live
1549
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:41,680
session of the band you have to see.
1550
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:42,680
It's like a must.
1551
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:45,680
Okay, okay, I'm gonna have to see it.
1552
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:49,040
Yeah, that album was called Hail to the Thief.
1553
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:52,040
Hail to the Thief, that's what it was.
1554
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:53,040
Yes.
1555
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:54,040
Oh, okay.
1556
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:55,040
Okay.
1557
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:56,040
Hail to the Thief.
1558
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:57,040
Okay.
1559
01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:58,040
I gotta check that one out.
1560
01:41:58,040 --> 01:41:59,040
Okay.
1561
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:00,040
Thanks, Josh.
1562
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:01,040
You're welcome, Adam.
1563
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:06,320
I fired up the Google machine real quick and got to type it and I figured it out.
1564
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:07,320
All right.
1565
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:12,840
Well, if, did you have more artists that you were going to list off or?
1566
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:17,800
Beastie Boys, one of my big, one of my fave.
1567
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:25,280
Like it just, you know, it's, I remember Paul Revere, I was in eighth grade and Paul Revere
1568
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:28,880
was like popular and I wanted to learn all the lyrics.
1569
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:34,680
So what I did was recorded the song on a cassette tape and then I would go and rewind and I
1570
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:41,080
write the lyrics down, rewind, play, you know, just to get every single lyric and I still
1571
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:44,200
know every single lyric to Paul Revere just because of that.
1572
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:47,600
Like Beastie Boys, they were just so creative.
1573
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:49,960
They did like punk, you know, for a little bit.
1574
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:54,840
They were just so funky and just great.
1575
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:59,480
I just, I just love the Beastie Boys so to this day.
1576
01:42:59,480 --> 01:43:04,360
Just such part of my childhood and adulthood and I just feel like you just can't go wrong
1577
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:05,360
with them, you know?
1578
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:06,360
Right.
1579
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:08,640
So it's pretty solid.
1580
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:16,040
So just Beastie Boys, definitely a big deal and you know, I love Queens of the Stone Age.
1581
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:20,960
I like, I like that, that stoner rock, you know, if you will.
1582
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:21,960
Yeah.
1583
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:22,960
So, yeah.
1584
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:26,080
All right.
1585
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:35,200
And very much in a similar vein, what have been your, some of your top concert experiences
1586
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:40,480
or festival experiences that you've had in your life?
1587
01:43:40,480 --> 01:43:52,880
So top, so the Cure, anytime I see the Cure, going to a Cure concert for me is like, you
1588
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:58,960
get there, they break your heart and then they put it back together and then you can
1589
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:02,160
leave, you know?
1590
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:10,400
They're just like, Robert Smith sings love song, who he's probably sang a thousand times,
1591
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:15,680
like it's the first time he ever sang it, you know?
1592
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:20,800
They play their music, like if it's the first time they played the song, you know?
1593
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:25,320
And I'm like, how are these guys still making me feel like this, you know?
1594
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:27,960
Like after all these years, you know?
1595
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:37,600
Like so the Cure, definitely one of my tops festivals, Desert Days was amazing.
1596
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:39,920
It was all the oldies but goodies, you know?
1597
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:50,400
I got to see Paul McCartney, I got to see Roger Waters, the Rolling Stones, The Who,
1598
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:59,240
you know, all in one weekend and it was pretty, you know, it was just amazing.
1599
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:03,640
And another one of my favorites, interestingly enough, is The Voids.
1600
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:07,080
Oh, Julian Casablanca's.
1601
01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:14,040
Julian Casablanca's, yep, is in The Voids is, I feel like it's the bad boys of the strokes,
1602
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:15,040
you know?
1603
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:18,960
It's like the strokes with the bad boy version and they've just been one of my favorites
1604
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:21,680
for a while now, live.
1605
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:28,760
Like I went to the Masonic Temple, I think it is, at Hollywood Forever Cemetery.
1606
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:29,760
Okay.
1607
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:33,320
And got to see them there and it was like amazing.
1608
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:42,440
It was a great show and it was so intimate and that's definitely one of my favorites.
1609
01:45:42,440 --> 01:45:52,600
And definitely anytime I saw the John Boal band play, it's been amazing.
1610
01:45:52,600 --> 01:46:00,840
It's been thrilling to watch these kids just murder it on stage, you know?
1611
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:03,780
Yeah, that's a two-piece band.
1612
01:46:03,780 --> 01:46:08,080
That's something that's not really done all too often besides, the only band I can think
1613
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:10,400
of is like maybe The Dead Weather.
1614
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:11,400
Is it The Dead Weather?
1615
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:12,400
Yes.
1616
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:13,400
Yeah.
1617
01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:14,400
Isn't it?
1618
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:17,400
I think it's a two-piece.
1619
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:22,520
Yeah, and in the white stripes, of course.
1620
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:28,320
But yeah, that is a cool dynamic just to have two individuals just going ham.
1621
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:35,080
I've seen videos, I've seen, and they have, are they going to be releasing music or, because
1622
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:39,960
I've seen like an EP and several songs on Spotify.
1623
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:46,000
You know, they're actually on a hiatus right now.
1624
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:47,000
Okay.
1625
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:54,040
So, we shall see what becomes of the JBB.
1626
01:46:54,040 --> 01:47:05,480
So, yeah, they're in a hiatus, but nonetheless, they're very, you know, they've been so close
1627
01:47:05,480 --> 01:47:11,320
since they were babies that you can feel it when they're playing.
1628
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:16,360
They have a great following and they're both extremely talented.
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01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:20,840
My nephew on drums will just blow your mind.
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01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:28,440
You know, he's very like Don Bonham, you know, kind of, you know, they kind of remind me
1631
01:47:28,440 --> 01:47:32,600
of a punk black Sabbath, weirdly enough sometimes.
1632
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:37,680
I don't even know if that is anything, but that's what it kind of reminds me of sometimes.
1633
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:40,080
No, actually, I was listening to them like last night.
1634
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:45,240
I'm like, this has a little bit of, I thought it sounded like a little bit like black Sabbath
1635
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:49,960
with like the dead weather and some white stripes, but more on the heavy side, more
1636
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:53,160
on the black Sabbath side sometimes.
1637
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:55,520
Yeah, yeah.
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01:47:55,520 --> 01:48:06,280
It's really interesting where they go and lots of feedback, you know.
1639
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:10,560
So my son's playing bass like a guitar, you know, like he's playing the bass, but he's
1640
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:12,040
playing it like a fucking guitar.
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01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:15,280
And I'm like, oh shit, that's interesting, you know.
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01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:24,760
I actually send, I send there a video to, why can't I think of his name?
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01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:26,600
I can't believe I'm blanking.
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01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:29,480
I'm not going to say the story since I can't think of the name.
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01:48:29,480 --> 01:48:33,000
All right, fair enough.
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01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:38,400
Have you hosted a few of the shows for the John Bull band?
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01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:48,640
No, they have played, they did play once for us on the rooftop with a few other bands,
1648
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:52,480
3LH, The Sweats.
1649
01:48:52,480 --> 01:48:56,760
And it was, oh, they were the invention of sound at that point.
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01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:57,760
Okay.
1651
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:00,680
Okay, really quick.
1652
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:06,560
I send their video to Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth.
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01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:07,560
Okay.
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01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:13,480
Thurston Moore replied to me and said, you're a genius.
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01:49:13,480 --> 01:49:14,480
That's awesome.
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01:49:14,480 --> 01:49:20,040
And I told them, oh, and he started following them on Instagram.
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01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:21,240
Oh, nice.
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01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:23,760
And they didn't follow on back.
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01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:25,520
Oh, that's terrible.
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01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:26,920
That's terrible.
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01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:29,200
That is poor Instagram etiquette right there.
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01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:36,320
I was like, what is that a good power move guys?
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01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:37,320
Yeah.
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01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:39,800
All right.
1665
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:46,400
I have one last follow up question and I just want to know what you're listening to as far
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01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:53,400
as like more contemporary artists, rising talent, like who are you listening to if you
1667
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:57,880
had a top five list or even not excluding top five list, just who are you listening
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01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:01,560
to that's on the rise or local talent?
1669
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:04,720
No one listening to her right now.
1670
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:05,720
Okay.
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01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:12,160
So I just, we just had Daydream Time Machine perform for Valentine's Day.
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01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:13,880
They do this annually.
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01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:19,680
They do a Daydream Valentine and it's always just such a beautiful event.
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01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:26,240
And recently though, this is a funny thing is that every time Daydream comes onto my
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01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:29,040
shuffle, I'm like, who?
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01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:31,400
I'm like, oh my God, it's Daydream.
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01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:34,400
Like they're so good.
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01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:40,800
They're a phenomenal band live and when you're listening to them, listen to the song Daydream
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01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:43,720
by Daydream Time Machine and it's amazing.
1680
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:45,320
That song will blow your mind.
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01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:49,040
So definitely listen to Daydream.
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01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:52,480
I love the Violet Minefield.
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01:50:52,480 --> 01:50:54,240
They're such a good vibe.
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01:50:54,240 --> 01:51:01,120
Like it's just the psychedelic rock and it just, I love the Violet Minefield.
1685
01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:04,920
Those are some local bands that I really, really like.
1686
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:15,120
I also listen to stuff like Zara Face, kind of more like a hip hop thing going on.
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01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:18,280
I like La Tigre.
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01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:23,320
Plague Vendor, big fan.
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01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:29,800
Kind of into idols a little bit, digging their stuff.
1690
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:34,880
That's basically what I've been listening to right now.
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01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:44,160
I was going to ask, so I think at the Pomona Fox Theater, or rather the Fox Theater Pomona,
1692
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:46,640
you had the chats from Australia.
1693
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:50,520
Are you a fan of their music at all?
1694
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:53,240
Yeah, the chats are awesome.
1695
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:54,720
They were just, yeah.
1696
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:59,400
Golden Voice brought that show over and they were great.
1697
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:03,920
The chats were really good.
1698
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:06,840
All right, Josh, do you have any follow up questions?
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01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:10,440
Yeah, well, I was actually curious to know, this is kind of changing gears a little bit,
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01:52:10,440 --> 01:52:17,760
but I was just curious to know about what your role is over at Art Eco Partners, which
1701
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:22,880
for people that don't know, they're essentially a, they build creative communities through
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01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:27,720
reuse of historic structures and infill development in a lot of places in Southern California.
1703
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:31,480
They've been involved in a lot of different projects like the Claremont Packing House,
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01:52:31,480 --> 01:52:38,360
the Fox Theater Pomona obviously, and the, what is it, the one at the Redlands, God damn,
1705
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,360
I can't remember the name right now off the top of my head, but you're involved-
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01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:41,360
Redlands Public Market.
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01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:44,520
Yes, that's the one that you're specifically involved in, or I saw you were specifically
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01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:45,520
involved in.
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01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:51,960
I just was curious to know what your role has been and how that came about.
1710
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:57,000
Art Eco Partners, they own the Fox Theater.
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01:52:57,000 --> 01:53:00,920
They own most of the buildings and lofts in downtown Pomona.
1712
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:04,680
They're redevelopers, Claremont Packing House, like you said.
1713
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:12,720
So basically, it's a family, the Tessie A family, which I would say have been a big
1714
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:20,600
help in my career here around Pomona because they believe in me and they give me artistic
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01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:24,000
freedom to create events.
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01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:32,040
You know, I have a few events in the works right now that I'm like coming up with, but
1717
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:37,160
I have to like build budgets and do all this to create them.
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01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:42,880
So during the pandemic, Fox was closed, we're done for that time.
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01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:48,800
And even though I was on unemployment and I was like, okay, like I was kind of like,
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01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:51,400
what can I do?
1721
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:54,960
And somebody was like, hey, do you want to work for Redlands Public Market?
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01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:56,720
Like you want to help out maybe two days a week?
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01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:57,720
I was like, okay.
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01:53:57,720 --> 01:54:00,120
So like, I just want to go kind of help.
1725
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:04,360
And I ended up being their like leasing manager.
1726
01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:07,440
Kind of basically my job was amazing.
1727
01:54:07,440 --> 01:54:13,880
What I would have to do is go find good food and bring it to Redlands Public Market.
1728
01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:18,720
Like so, you know, if you had a coffee place, if you had a pizza place, I'd go try your
1729
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:25,360
food and I'd be like, hey, are you interested in coming to like, you know, our food hall?
1730
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:33,520
And what's cool is these food halls, like you could be a taco place on a corner and
1731
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:39,000
suddenly be making like, you know, your dreams come true in this food hall.
1732
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:41,800
So we have Riverside Food Lab.
1733
01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:44,100
There's one in Temecula.
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01:54:44,100 --> 01:54:47,960
There's Claremont Packinghouse and Redlands Public Market is opening up.
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01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:52,240
I had to jump off that project just because I got so busy with the Fox Theater.
1736
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:53,240
Right.
1737
01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:54,240
Yeah.
1738
01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:57,960
I imagine being in charge of booking and events and all that stuff there probably took over
1739
01:54:57,960 --> 01:54:59,400
most of your time.
1740
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:02,080
But yeah, no, that's super interesting.
1741
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:06,200
And would you kind of, did you hit up any like food trucks to see any good food trucks
1742
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:11,360
around that were like, hey man, you guys want to come to this market and set up shop here?
1743
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:12,360
Yes.
1744
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:13,360
Yes.
1745
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:19,240
You know, what's funny is there was one called the Hibachi Grill and they were at Coachella
1746
01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:20,720
last year.
1747
01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:25,520
And a lot of the bands that go to Coachella perform there will perform at the Fox Theater
1748
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:26,520
first.
1749
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:29,840
Like, or they'll use our venue as a rehearsal or something, right?
1750
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:34,680
Like they'll rehearse there for a few days, like, or, you know, before they go to the
1751
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:36,080
hotel or in between.
1752
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:38,960
So we get to go to Coachella every year.
1753
01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:43,320
Like Fox Theater, we get to go like week in one or week in two, we get to choose.
1754
01:55:43,320 --> 01:55:48,720
And so last time I was there, I did meet up with Hibachi Grill because they were working
1755
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:49,720
Coachella.
1756
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:53,440
So I was like, Oh, I want you guys for Redland.
1757
01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:56,920
So they were like, yeah, like come with your friends and we'll like give you some food
1758
01:55:56,920 --> 01:55:59,600
and so you can try out our product and whatnot.
1759
01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:00,600
So that was kind of cool.
1760
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:01,600
That's awesome.
1761
01:56:01,600 --> 01:56:06,240
What a great opportunity that came through, you know, a terrible pandemic that we had
1762
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:12,120
that you were able to turn that into a, you know, hey, I get to go try out food and get
1763
01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:13,120
people in these places.
1764
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:14,120
That's pretty sweet.
1765
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:18,120
Yeah, yes, absolutely.
1766
01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:20,040
What a well-rounded individual you are.
1767
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:25,000
You just get to dabble in all things great.
1768
01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:26,240
I'm trying.
1769
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:28,440
I'm trying here, right?
1770
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:32,320
I feel like we know that we only have one life.
1771
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:34,240
So I got to like fit everything.
1772
01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:40,560
Oh, if I could do everything I wanted.
1773
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:44,000
What's something on your bucket list that you need done?
1774
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:45,680
That I want to do.
1775
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:51,000
I like it just just even just different.
1776
01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:56,560
Like I would really like to be like a psychologist or a therapist too, you know, but you know,
1777
01:56:56,560 --> 01:56:57,560
who has time for that?
1778
01:56:57,560 --> 01:57:03,960
You know, like it's just something about, you know, Adam and I were talking about doing
1779
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:06,760
a call in love line type podcast.
1780
01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:12,440
So if we if we do that, you could make your psychologist therapy dreams come true and
1781
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:14,040
you can give people advice.
1782
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:22,040
You know, oh, I mean, I mean, I love it.
1783
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:25,720
I'll be like, ask rambunctious Rachel.
1784
01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:26,720
All right.
1785
01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:29,720
You got anything else to ask?
1786
01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:30,720
No, that's that's it.
1787
01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:31,720
All right.
1788
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:32,720
Yeah, me too.
1789
01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:41,880
I can't thank you enough for just taking this three day weekend and spending one one portion
1790
01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:44,920
of this day to to speak with you.
1791
01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:48,080
And man, this has been such a killer time.
1792
01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:49,960
I've enjoyed this like all the way through.
1793
01:57:49,960 --> 01:57:53,080
I thank you so much for doing this.
1794
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:54,080
Thank you guys.
1795
01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:55,080
Thank you guys.
1796
01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:56,080
This is amazing.
1797
01:57:56,080 --> 01:57:59,680
It was great to talk to you guys and to be part of this.
1798
01:57:59,680 --> 01:58:03,320
And I appreciate you guys even just considering and thinking of me.
1799
01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:04,320
Yeah, absolutely.
1800
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:05,320
No big deal.
1801
01:58:05,320 --> 01:58:06,320
Not a problem.
1802
01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:09,960
We like I said, we our appreciation for you is probably much higher than than you have
1803
01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:11,440
for us just because we're so grateful.
1804
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:12,440
We're so grateful.
1805
01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:13,440
It's like Wayne's world.
1806
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:16,440
We're like, yeah, we're not worthy.
1807
01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:19,720
You guys are so sweet.
1808
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:23,280
Before we go, is there obviously I'm going to play our little outro music and stuff,
1809
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:24,280
so don't hang up.
1810
01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:26,000
I'm going to put everybody on mute while that's playing.
1811
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:28,200
But because we want to talk to you for a second afterwards.
1812
01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:33,680
But is there anything you want to plug any Instagrams or Twitters or Tic Tocs or any
1813
01:58:33,680 --> 01:58:36,280
anything you want to plug before we before we roll out?
1814
01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:43,120
You know, aside from color haiku, check it out.
1815
01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:46,920
Some of the best artists in the world will be there here in Pomona.
1816
01:58:46,920 --> 01:58:55,240
So if you guys love artists, if you love music, it's going to be a great event that's going
1817
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:57,720
to be happening in July.
1818
01:58:57,720 --> 01:59:05,120
And the Instagram tag for color haiku is C-O-L-O-U-R.
1819
01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:07,800
You are H-A-I-K-U.
1820
01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:11,320
All one word, no underscores or any funny business like that.
1821
01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:13,920
So follow that and be on the lookout.
1822
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:14,920
July 13th.
1823
01:59:14,920 --> 01:59:15,920
It's going to happen.
1824
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:16,920
Yeah, absolutely.
1825
01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:17,920
Absolutely.
1826
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:18,920
All right.
1827
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:20,960
Well, let's go ahead and get on out of here.
1828
01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:25,360
For those of you who have been listening to us, you know the drill.
1829
01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:27,440
Please try to follow us on Instagram and Twitter.
1830
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:28,440
Oh, shit.
1831
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:29,440
I put me to my mic.
1832
01:59:29,440 --> 01:59:31,480
Follow us on Instagram and Twitter.
1833
01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:32,480
All right.
1834
01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:34,280
Please add Gamerage magazine.
1835
01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:35,280
You fucking bastards.
1836
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:36,280
You never.
1837
01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:37,280
We all listen to us.
1838
01:59:37,280 --> 01:59:39,760
You have hundreds of downloads, but nobody follows us on the social media.
1839
01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:45,320
Anyways, follow us there and hopefully we'll see you on the next time on the Without Sensor
1840
01:59:45,320 --> 01:59:55,640
podcast.
1841
01:59:55,640 --> 02:00:02,400
That was Without Sensor, the Gamerage Magazine interview podcast.
1842
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:08,280
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1843
02:00:08,280 --> 02:00:12,480
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1844
02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:16,920
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02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:17,920
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1846
02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:21,400
Except if you're with the FCC, then go on, get, get out of here.
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