Grocery Stores

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Okay, well I lost my internet connection.
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Oh is that what happened? I thought minority you just quit.
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You were like, I hate this. This is enough for Pole.
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I'm not listening to Michael's thing. That is only funny
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to Michael.
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Hello, oh hello, Welcome to White Noise.
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And we're joined by my oldest friend and my oldest
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I mean, just the person I've known the longest, my
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dear friend, Gracie. We've been friends since I think I
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was five years old, and you were whatever that made you.
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Because I can't do it right, yeah, pretty little.
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And we're betrothed for most of our childhood.
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It's true.
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We were betrothed for a very long time.
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It's funny.
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I have this group chat going on at work, and
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I don't know, it's just a lot of nonsense and
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people trying to like cheer each other up during the workday,
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and it somehow developed into everyone sending funny and embarrassing
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childhood pictures of themselves, which was with everyone I work with.
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They're all like quirky, weird artists, so you can imagine
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there's some.
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Like what do you do?
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I do marketing for the Everson Museum of Art in Syracuse,
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and the picture that I shared on this group thread
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was well, I shared a few, but one of them
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was of Michael and I getting married when we were like,
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I don't know it was I know it was a
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snow day and I was in grade school, so probably
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like fourth grade and sixth grade or.
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Something like that.
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Was this arranged by your parents?
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Yeah?
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We were neighbors growing up and after school, like because
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Gracie's mom didn't work, so she was like the ultimate
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stay at home mom. I will say your mom was
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like when you picture like the greatest stay at home mom,
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it is Laura McDermott and so Elson and I my
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sister and I would go to Gracie's house after school,
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and yeah, we would do things like this, like we
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did a full wedding. Remember then we made cookies and
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decorated the wedding cookies and we smushed them in our
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faces like it was wedding cake.
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Yeah, a whole thing.
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But our families were so intertwined. It was like, oh, well,
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Michael and Gracie will get married and then we'll actually
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be family.
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Yeah, I didn't go.
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So well, are your parents close? Yeah?
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Our families were basically like one big family.
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I think what they meant was Michael and Gracie our
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soulmates and they will be together the rest of their lives.
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And to that, I say, that's that's accurate, that.
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Is true, and you just welcome to baby.
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Yes, thank you.
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We're just joking that my husband's family is from the Midwest,
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and so they say Eleanor, like Eleanor, Oh, I might
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have freethought the name.
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I hope your parents, your husband's parents, don't listen.
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You're gonna get a phone call.
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The moment this comes out, they're like, Okay, so Eleanor,
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how is she?
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It's charming, that's fine, We're all fine.
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Keep saying it.
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That was actually surprising because Syracuse accents are also not
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like the most melodious accents ever, so like, but that's
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really funny that the Midwestern one just takes it one
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step further. They're like, I see your Eleanor and just
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raise you Eleanor.
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I was going to say, your marriage story just kind
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of quickly reminded me of I had an awkward girlfriend
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when I was probably in like fourth or fifth grade,
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and it was the girl who lived next door to
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my grandparents and my parents and my grandparents did not
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like this girl because it was kind of it was
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kind of trailer park esque, if you will, and like
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she wasn't fitting of somebody who could hang out with me,
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and we always got into trouble when we were together,
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and she was like the first person where I was like,
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I was like a wee boyfriend and girlfriend and she's like, yeah,
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we're going to get married. And I was like, Okay,
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that sounds good to me. And I was like do
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we kiss? And we were both like I don't think
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we need to do that, right, No, we don't need
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to do that. So we were meant to be betrothed,
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at least in our minds, and it would have you know,
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our families would have never never let it happen.
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Where is she now? Do we know?
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She works at the Dollar General in Stanton?
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Okay, listen, she's employed. And that's more than a lot
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of us can say right now.
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Yeah, so you know, as a married person, I can
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vouch for the kissing's overrated.
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Don't need to do a whole lot of it.
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All right, Well, would you like to know today's topic, Grace,
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because I know you listened to the show, so you
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know the general gist.
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I'm very excited.
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Yeah, and I get to talk on whatever criteria I
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deem a criteria.
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Double yes, that word.
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I have a feeling you've already decided. You probably already
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know who's going first, and you probably already have your
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next topic. Am I right?
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Well, I kind of forgot that I choose the person
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that goes first by do have a topic? I thought
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long about it, And by that I mean, you know,
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I woke up and was like, that sounds good. Okay,
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I'm gonna say, Ryan, you go first. I feel like
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that's the preferred I don't know, we'll tee you what.
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Michael great?
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I love it. Well, actually, I'm very so. Our topic
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today is grocery stores.
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Oh you know, I forget how topics work. I listened
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to I think your most recent.
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Podcast, But you were expressing social nudity, weren't you. Well
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you can listen on Monday. Get a download on that one.
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Man. Okay, fine, grocery Actually, now.
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That I think about it, you would have been great
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for social nudity because of skinny dipping up at the
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river dipping.
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Yeah, hey, dipping is dipping dipping because Gracie's family is
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a beautiful house up at the Saint Lawrence River and
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on the water, and so there's there's been you know,
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morning evening skinny dipping moments.
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An interesting choice of words. We just jacked it up
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so it wouldn't fall in the rivers.
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Yeah, but yeah, grocery stores are equally exciting.
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I'm palmed.
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Hit me with it.
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All, right, are we ready?
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Ye?
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Yes? Okay, and.
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Go okay. So this ended up being a complete nerd
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out for me on a topic on topics that I
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actually have been quoting incorrectly for a really long time.
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And as a matter of fact, Michael, we talked about
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grocery stores. It wasn't in the end of the Social
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Nudity podcast, but we sat and chatted about grocery stores
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for like another ten to fifteen minutes afterwards.
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Feel very strongly about them.
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Yes, we both got very excited. So I decided that
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I would fully put to bed the stories of Aldi
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Letal and Trader Joe's and how it all came together
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and how it all works.
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I'm really excited.
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Now, Ryan, you just won.
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I was humped to learn to like and I was like,
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you know what I got. I want to understand this
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because I talk about it, because I think it's interesting.
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So we'll start with Aldie, because Aldi is really where
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it all begins. Aldi was created by Anna Albrecht back
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in nineteen thirteen, and she ran the grocery store through
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the war, and her two sons, Carl the Younger and
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Theo the Older, were both drafted into the German army
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and fought in the war. That being said, I did
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look into this because I wanted to be clear whether
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or not it was true. They were not Nazis and
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they were not associated with the with the SS. They
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were just part of normal German conscription and drafting, so
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were required to fight in the war. Carl was wounded
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and a captured pow. Theo, while he saw no compact
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combat compact combat, was part of the army and occupied
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northern Africa. But when they returned back from the war,
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they realized that they had an incredible opportunity to expand
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their mother's grocery business and a very needy and very
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destroyed Germany. So in nineteen forty six the brothers took
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over the business and by nineteen fifty they had thirteen stores,
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and by the nineteen sixties they had well over one
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hundred plus stores. But in the nineteen sixties is where
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it starts to get interesting, because the brothers had a
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giant rift over cigarettes. Now I was kind of like
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I was. I went into this kind of altruistic being,
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like was the rift like we shouldn't be selling cigarettes? Now?
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The rift was that THEO was pro cigarettes because it
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was a great opportunity to make more money, and Karl
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was anti cigarettes because it would draw in shoplifters and
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he didn't want shoplifters in his stores.
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Smoky refraff over here.
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I don't want any of the refraff.
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Get him out of here.
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You look like a smoker.
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Sorry with you, you look like a smoker. Get out
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of my store.
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If we really did not use German access, we didn't.
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We just went on time me on that one bad.
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There is smoked, there's beautifullying, Get out of here.
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So THEO mister pro cigarettes, set up Aldi North and
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Carl Anti Cigarettes set up Ald South, and it was
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literally divided in Germany by Northern Germany and Southern Germany.
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Now both of these businesses grew huge. The Carl side,
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so Audi South Aldi South is worth the family's worth
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something like twenty nine billion, and THEO Ald North is
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worth something like twenty billion at this point both are
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dead and by the way, all the comes from the
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original name of the stores, which was Albrecht Discount, so
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it's AL for Albrecht and DII for Discounts, so all
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the actually stands for all Brick Discount. They within those divisions.
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They've expanded globally, so ALDI South is in the UK, Ireland,
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Australia and the United States, so they do most of
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the U most of the English speaking holdings, and they
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are fully separate company. Aldi North does France, Spain, Belgium
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and Netherlands, and I will talk about TJ's in a minute.
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It kind of at the end, but the two are
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extremely cooperative around technology and logistics for the purpose of
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fighting off leedal So Legal Markets was created in the
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nineteen seventies by Dieter Schwartz, and Dieter Schwartz chose to
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expand and on his dad Joseph's wholesale grocery business. So
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he's like, I have this, this access to inexpensive groceries.
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The ALDI model of high quality goods at low prices
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with little frills is kind of an ideal one, and
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I'm set up well to go do it, So he
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hops into it and essentially copies Aldi's business model. This
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drove the brothers crazy, and actually what transpired or started
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to create them working together because leadal, I'll look at that,
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I put it together. Lead started to actively consume their
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market share and so they're like, we have to coordinate
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at some level to kind of fight this guy Deeter off.
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So there are stories of lots of like corporate espionage
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and spying and going into each other's stores, crazy price
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wars where the stores operate at losses to ensure that
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they force the other store out of the market that
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they've moved into, and this continues. The fight kind of continues.
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Now that being said, Letal is actually the bigger company
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at this point and has I think a little bit
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of a greater market share. Interesting things about Letal, so
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Dietrich Schwartz is eighty years old and still has some
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oversight for the company, while Ness is technically retired, but
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he's a ghost like. He's extremely private. There are very
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few photos of him, and the photos of them that
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they do have for decades old at this point, and
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they decided not to name it Schwartz Market because Schwartz
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means black in German, so it would have been black market.
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So he acquired the name Letal from a retired school
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teacher for one thousand Deutsche marks, and that's how we
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then got legal market. The other kind of cool thing
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is they, like I think everyone kind of knows this
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about Letal and Aldi, is that they have that center
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lane in the center that has all the weird market
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so like everything from cheap sandals to very expensive expression
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expresso machines at deep discounts. And this is kind of
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a theme in both, like you can find interesting things
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or toys. And that's actually why I like the Leadle.
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I always go down the center aisle and Leedle where
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we live.
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I feel like out because I don't think I've ever
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been to a Leedle.
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I've never heard.
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Yeah, I haven't either.
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Well, so this is kind of fun. I get to
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talk about my mom a little bit. So my mom
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started going to the Leedle in Northern Virginia and my
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mom is like, Ryan, you got to go to the Leedle.
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You got to go to the Leedle. And this is
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just like one of these things where I was like, okay, Mom,
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like deep breath, like like it can't be that exciting.
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So finally one day they build one in Eaton Town,
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New Jersey, which is just like a hair north of
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us on the shore, and I'm like, we should go
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check this out. And I don't really all these not
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really for me, Like it's too much stuff is prepackaged,
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like it's tough to find fresher items, and so like
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certain things, so we don't typically go to all the
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not really my favorite.
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We'll go.
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I will go to find stuff quickly though at times.
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But we walk into Leedle and I was like, Okay,
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this is actually kind of cool. They have a great
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bakery with a lot of fresh German breads and pretzels
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that are always very delicious. Leedal is also known for
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having a phenomenal wine and cheese selection, and people are
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like nuts about their wine and cheese selection, and some
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of the wines that letal owns have actually beat out
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more expensive, nicer wines and blind taste tests. In New
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Jersey they don't sell wine, but in Northern Virginia they do,
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and I have emphatically picked up they also sell wine
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relatively cheap, so I've picked up very real, very good,
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like docg Italian wines at very good prices in their stores.
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But the way it's described between the two is that
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Aldi is kind of like the steady, disciplined and strategic warrior,
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while Leedal is your more scrappy and aggressive fighter. So
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Leedle will walk into markets, make mistakes and back out,
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but they will try any thing to continue to get
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to gain market share. And apparently the company, like Deader,
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is now worth something like forty billion dollars, so he's
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worth essentially what the two brothers are worth combined. From
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from Aldi, it's worth noting they both died the Aldie brothers,
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and both the Suit and the Nord organizations are held
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by family foundations and not as much family of Bonnents,
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so all the executive management is now like formal executive
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management and not run by the family. But Dieter Schwartz
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apparently still has a very heavy hand in Leadle. Now
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I also said I talk about Trader Joe's and you'll
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hear people twenty seconds. Okay, this is actually pretty quick.
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So Trader Joe's was created in nineteen sixty seven by
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Joe Cologne, so it was actually there was actually a
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Trader Joe. It was bought by Aldi family in nineteen
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seventy nine very quietly, and it's fully independently from Aldi North.
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So while Aldi North doesn't have a US presence, they
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do because they own Trader Joe's. It's a fully wholly
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separately operated entity. But there is apparently some coordination around
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supply chain and technology because the larger Aldi family holdings
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have access to all of this stuff. So Trader Joe's
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is not an Aldi it is owned by the Aldi
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Nord Foundation though.
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So can I share.
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The rumor that I heard that I'm going to make
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fact by just saying it here.
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That's how fast it work.
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That is how fast.
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I'm just choosing to believe that it's real. So I
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heard by who knows who forever.
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Ago that.
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The gentleman who owned Trader Joe's he, like, in New
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York State, you cannot wine in a grocery store, which
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is really annoying. But when I lived in Maine, i
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lived there for a couple of years, I would pick
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up my wine and whatever with my groceries, and it
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was wonderful because you could get bottles for like between
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six and nine dollars and it would be pretty good wine.
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It was part of my grocery shopping, and I learned
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because this is fact, that the gentleman who owned Trader
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Joe's went through a divorce and part of the settlement
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with his wife was that she was going to get
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the proceeds from wine sales from like boot sales, and
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so he very deliberately marked it down to the cheapness
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it could be to spite her so she would not
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get ooh, the proceeds of the wine.
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Are you checking me?
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Ryan?
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This is fact?
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So I mean, like, if it's not, that's true, that's
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a great story.
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I think it's great.
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Like that's one way to keep prices low. Just bitterness.
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So actually, it doesn't necessarily have to do with the legend,
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doesn't have to do with Trader Joe's, but it does
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have to do with Charles Shaw, which is the two
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buck chuck oh. In reality, Charsaws started as Napavello Wannering
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nineteen seventy, focused on varieties like game. Despite early success,
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including awards and features in White House Dinners, the Wine
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faced significant challenges in the eighties. Financial typiculties compounded, and
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a costly divorced from his wife's Lucy led to bankruptcy
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and ninety five Charleshaw label was sold to Fred Phronsia
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Bronco Wine Company YEW for twenty seven thousand dollars. The
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affordable price of Charsow Wine and Trader Joe's affectionately dubbed
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two buck Chuck stems from Bronco Bronco Wine companies cost
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effective production methods. These include owning extensive venuards in California, merchandising,
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harvesting and fermenting with oak chips instead of barrels, utilizing
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lightweight bottles. These strittergs enable the company offer such low prices,
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not as result of any divorce related vendetta.
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Oh sorry, are you upset that I dispelled?
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Did I dispelled the myth? Did I lose?
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Now?
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Did I just lose?
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How dare you spread accurate information?
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Ryan? Listen?
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If Gracie and I both learned something from I truly
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can say this about my mother, but certain other people
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it's that you never let the truth get in the.
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Way of a good story.
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That is very true.
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But no, this is we should be about facts here.
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We should try That was great?
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Are you ready, Michael? Sure?
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As ready as I always am.
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All Right, you know What's funny is I always say
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this to you and I never have my timer hold on.
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I know, same.
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It's that one thing that I always forget about where
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I'm like ready to go, oh well, I'm not wait
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a second, all right, ready, Yes, I have pretty strong
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opinions about grocery stores. I think because they grew up
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with Wegmans, and in my opinion, Wegmans is a superior
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grocery store.
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It is.
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And I even grew up with like the janky Wegmans
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in Syracuse and my JANKI Wegmans is nicer than pretty
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much every other grocery store I've ever been to. And
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I think it has so much to do with the
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color scheme. And I think what their color scheme is
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is that it's brilliant because their floors. If you've never
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been into Wegmans, they're this wonderful family owned grocery store,
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Thank you, Danny Wegman. And their color scheme is orange
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and brown, which at first doesn't sound that nice, but
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I think it covers any dirt and grime so it
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never looks dirty. And they have like wood paneling around
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their pharmacies. The Wegman's brand stuff is always very good,
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but they don't. It's not like the Whole Food's like
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where they like push their brand at you, like it's
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it's a solid mix of like Wegman's peanut butter and
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like Jivvy. And then their subshop though, is where they
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won me over when I was young. Wegmens subs are
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so good, and I think because they're enough, they could
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feed a family of six, like one sub, Like they're
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one of those ones where you would go, like, my
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personal order is turkey with provolone, cheese, lettuce, tomato, mayonnaise,
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light on the mayonnaise, and they fill it with so
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much Deli stuff that like you could bledge in a
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small child with that sub and then like you know,
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it's they're so thick and wonderful.
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That was one of the things I missed most when
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I was pregnant. You can't have Deli meat, so like
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anytime i'd go into Wegman's, I'd be like.
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They're so good.
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And then I went to college in Boston and I
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went to I don't even remember what it was, but
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it's white, it looked dirty, the lighting was too bright.
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It was just a really awful experience, just traumatizing truly,
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I have PTSD and I'll never.
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Get over it.
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And I was just like, is this how other people live?
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And then I learned that like other people are very
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defensive of their grocery stores. Like I did a play
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in Florida for six months, I in Sarasota, and the
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way I feel about Wegmans is the way they feel
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about public oh yeah, and public subs. And I have
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never felt so superior in my life. I was just like,
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these people think that what they have is great and
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this is nothing. And to that end, like I went
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to La and I would go to Trader Joe's and
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again I would look down at my nose at Trader
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Joe's because I do. I will give you Trader Joe's
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as nice. But my issue with them is their food
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goes bad so fast, Like yes, it's like supposed to
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be all organic whatever, but I would buy a loaf
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of like Trader Joe's bread and get it home and
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it would be moldy, like it would be twelve minutes.
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You would have to have fifteen sandwiches to like make
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that bread worthwhile, like in a day. And so that's
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my issue with my little gripe with Trader Joe's, as
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I feel like inexplicably, their food goes bad very very quickly,
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and I know people are weirdly too cheery, and there's
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a bell that they rang, and I was like, I
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don't know this, this is a bit much. There's stew Leonards.
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I don't know.
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So this was my unplanned rant about other grocery store
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ste Leonards. Stew Leonards. I hate Stu Leonards. That's the
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one I talked about it before, where it's like one
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long aisle like Ikea, but it's like a barn and
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you're like, I just wanted to buy mayonnaise and this
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is now going to take me an hour, and there's
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like robot cows singing at me.
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No, that makes more sense. It's like it's weird to
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bump into one Leonard, let alone two.
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Yeah, no, not two Leonards. It's stew Leonards. It's get
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out of town Leonards. I hate that place, out of
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town letters. It's a horrible place. It's where grocery dreams
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go to die. And the funny thing is that I
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do have really strong opinions about this, even though I'm
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not a good cook, Like famously, quite literally, I have
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been on TV to learn how to cook, and I'm
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still not good at it.
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Seared your pasta's fab Michael.
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My pasta is very good, I will say, and Chef
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Ane Burrell was very proud of me that I learned
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how to make pasta. So where all this led me though,
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because I wanted to learn about the history of Wegmans.
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And so Wegmans opened in upstate New York and Rochester
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in nineteen sixteen. And the interesting thing is Piggly Wiggly
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claims to be the first grocery store, the first like
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as we know grocery store, and they opened in Memphis, Tennessee,
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in nineteen sixteen, and so it's interesting that they get
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the mark of like first grocery store. But according to
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Wegman's Like about Us history, they opened the same year.
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So I did not investigate this, but I think someone
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should because I have other things I need to talk about.
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So just fun fact, somebody go research which one really
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came first, Wegmans or Pigly Wiggly. I like to think
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it's Pigly Wiggly because it's a funny name. So that
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sent me down like fun grocery store facts. So here
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are some like momentous moments in grocery store history, famously
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fore Pigly Wiggly nineteen sixteen. The first grocery store carts
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came out not until nineteen thirty seven, and they were
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introduced at the Humpty Dumpty, which I did not know
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was a grocery store. Why grocery stores had to have
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goofy names beyond me, But Humpty Dumpty locations had the
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first grocery carts in nineteen thirty seven. They were really controversial.
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People didn't like them at first. They were inspired by
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folding chairs. Men didn't like them because they thought they
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were too effeminate looking, and women didn't like them because
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they thought they were too closely they resembled baby strollers,
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and for whatever reason that bothered them.
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I don't know why.
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The first drive in market came out in la in
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the nineteen thirties, and that sort of was like the
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first time we had sort of a department store style
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grocery store. It was like because there were cars, that
489
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was the first time we had grocery stores with parking lots.
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That's why they called them like drive ups, because they
491
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were like, we need parking lots, so a lot of
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different vendors cobbled together next to a parking lot, and
493
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that led to they called them drive in grocery stores.
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I know, like you drove your car through. That's what
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I was really hoping it was going to be, like
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you just kind of barreled through and like yelled through
497
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your whender. We were like, I need some I am
498
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and it just like they threw it through your car window.
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Sadly that's not the case. It's just a parking lot.
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So that led to the first sort of like supermarket
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as we know it, which came out in Queens, New York.
502
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It's sort of inspired by this in the nineteen thirties
503
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and it was a King Cullin and it opened in
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Queens and it was very popular because that was sort
505
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of the la idea. But the la one was outdoors
506
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and this was they put it indoors to like, you know,
507
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because weather happens, you know, they were like, oh, it's cold,
508
00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:33.000
so let's enclose this. But that was still where it
509
00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:36.559
was like different vendors, if you will, like a baker
510
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:40.279
and a you know, fishmonger, all you know under one
511
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roof a fishmonger.
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How am I on time?
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By the way, oh I don't know, Oh you have
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two minutes.
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Okay, great. So where this all really led me? Which
516
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is what I was why I was zipping through grocery
517
00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:58.359
store moments because those are interesting to me. But what
518
00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:01.880
really I was excited now is Piggly Wiggly. What the
519
00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:04.920
Piggly Wiggly always makes me think of is this thing
520
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:10.160
called Punchy Players, And it's this YouTube creator. And what
521
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:12.720
he does is he takes he does impressions, and he
522
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:15.680
takes clips of old stars and puts them in fun places,
523
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and then he does voiceovers. So he does like if
524
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Audrey Hepburn was your airline hostess. He does a like
525
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:24.920
Julia Child cooking thing. But one of my favorite ones
526
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:28.000
he does Judy and Liza and they go on various adventures,
527
00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:30.440
and one is Judy and Liza go to the Piggly
528
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Wiggly and like he just uses images of them in
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a piggly wiggly moving around and then voices it and
530
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it came out of He did one where Judy Garland
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does a c of Cream of Wheat commercial and sings
532
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the thing in Liza is like, good morning, mama, what
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are we having for breakfast? And she's like cream of wheat.
534
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:51.680
But Judy and Liza go to the Piggly Wiggly is
535
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one of my favorites. And then Anne Miller is the
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grocery store checkout girl. I will just play a little
537
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bit of it for you now, just a little snow
538
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bit of it. It is wonderful.
539
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:04.480
Oh mamma, it's gonna be a fantastic dinner. You know
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if we got the doctor.
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Pepper really, because Judy spends the whole time singing jingles
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as they go through, so she only will get things
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that have jingles, So they only have candy bars and
544
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like sodas.
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Whatever it is what we'll need afterwards, pop pop, fizz
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fizzleh what relief it is? Oh look, mama broccoli. Oh no,
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we can't get that. It doesn't have a jingle. Judy, Judy,
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I can ring you up on register far and Miller.
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What are you doing here? Jeddy? They stop making tap
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dancing pictures? So I came here to pick up some hours.
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Oh any do you carry Kraft Macaroni and cheese and
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Jollie ranchers. Sweetie, We're running a special two for one
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00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:56.519
on raw Sauerkraft, and I tell you it's great but
554
00:28:56.599 --> 00:28:59.039
you gotta keep the lid on it because it smells
555
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:03.599
like garbage, worse than Astir Williams swimming Pool, which.
556
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:05.880
Reminds me at the time that she and then she
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goes into stories. Now, if you're an old movie nerd
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00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:10.200
like me, it's hilarious that Ann Miller we lost what
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00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:19.759
Ryan just left? My nerdiness just drove Ryan away. Well, Grace,
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I think that means I won.
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00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:25.519
And by default, okay, well I lost my internet connection.
562
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Oh is that what happened? I thought, my nerdy you
563
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:30.319
just quit. You were like, I hate this. This is
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00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.839
enough for I'm not listening to Michael's thing. That is
565
00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:36.880
only funny to Michael. Like that little clip that I
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played is going to be funny to me and like
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four other people. But anyway, that's what it made me
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think of, is they go to the piggy wiggly punchy players.
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I highly recommend. It's funnier if you see it. Anne
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Miller is one of those stars from like the same
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as Judy Garland, but she was a big tap dancer,
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so she did a lot of those big like old
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MGM movie musicals where they had tap dancers. But I
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just love the way she goes Jey Jedi and like
575
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in the eighties she was kind of a gay I
576
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kunk you would wear these like massive wigs and just
577
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:05.559
became like this essential like a direct if you google,
578
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:09.440
like Ann Miller, just enjoy the wig tastic campness that
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is this woman.
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I'm assuming we're it time.
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Yeah. I was going to say, of course, the time
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went when my whole internet went out, but I think
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it's perfect timing. By the way, I also did go
584
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look up what the difference between Piggly Wiggly and Weigman's.
585
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:28.039
Wigman's is in nineteen sixteen, if you'd like to know. Yes,
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Piggly Wiggily was the first self service grocery store, so
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it was the first one where you could walk in,
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push a cart around, and put things in your cart
589
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and check out. The model prior to this was you
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00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:43.359
would walk to a counter, you'd hand somebody a list,
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and they would do the grocery shopping for you and
592
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bring it back. But Weigman's in nineteen sixteen was a
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push cart, so it was like, think of it like
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a food truck, so somebody would push around fresh produce
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press so it wasn't actually a grocery store.
596
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Ok So, so Piggly Wiggly still holds it.
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Piggly Wiggly wins.
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00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:07.519
Good for Pickly Wiggily. And in this video that's where
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Anne Miller works, and so it's a great place.
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Only you can take grocery stores and somehow tie it
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back to like some weird Hollywood theatrical.
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00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:18.960
Yeah.
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I just love the idea of Judy Garland and Liza
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Minelli going grocery stopping at the Pigly Wiggily and all
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they buy for dinner is pepsi mounds, bars and like
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just anything with a song.
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Oh and Oscar Meyer.
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They go to buy Oscar Meyer Wieners at the beginning
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of the video, and then Judy won't do it because
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00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:40.400
she hates Golden Mayor. She's like, Mayor, get that out
611
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:43.279
of here. And Lisa's like, one day, Mama, I want
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to be an Ascarmeyer been and she's.
613
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:46.680
Like, Liz, you can be whatever you want to be.
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Class anyway, it's great, Okay, Grace, you.
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Know what to do.
616
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:54.640
Yeah, now you got the hard part.
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I pick Ryan.
618
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:02.839
I was gonna say, this isn't that hard.
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There are reasons, so.
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First and foremost, you scratch that like Trader Joe's itch,
621
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:17.359
and even though you ruined my favorite Trader Joe's, I
622
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:18.960
was glad to learn about it.
623
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:21.039
It's been a real roller coaster for me on this one.
624
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:22.119
I was like, I was out.
625
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:25.160
I know you were out, but then you're back in
626
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:29.519
because and these are my very personal feelings about Wegments.
627
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:32.720
Even though I love Wegmans well, Like, even though I
628
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:36.279
could admit that Wegmans is a superior grocery store, it
629
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:40.880
like obviously is in a lot of respects, I am
630
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:44.880
a little frustrated with Wegmans for a few reasons. One,
631
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:48.039
the one most convenient to me is so big and
632
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.799
chaotic that it kind of like stresses me out. Honestly,
633
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:52.599
there's no like going in and out for it.
634
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:55.319
I will echo that it is. It is an undertaking.
635
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:56.759
Even if you just want to run in.
636
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.480
I really like I can't. It kind of stressed me out.
637
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:05.839
I don't priority. It's also gotten stupid expensive. So it
638
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:09.920
has gotten really expensive. It's like borderline Whole Foods level,
639
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:13.799
where like one bag of groceries will cost almost two
640
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:14.640
hundred dollars.
641
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:19.240
It's insane, it really is. Because we shop there pretty regularly,
642
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:21.279
and like you know, I get a few things and
643
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:22.480
I throw them in a bag and I'm like, how
644
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:24.000
is this one hundred and ten bucks?
645
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:27.119
Well, because they're a good company. They give all their
646
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:28.279
employees health insurance.
647
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:29.640
That is a really good thing.
648
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:33.519
I do like appreciate that about Wegments, but I'm seeing I.
649
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:35.480
Prefer them ill with Wegments.
650
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:38.200
I have two more okay.
651
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:42.920
One is that I'm seeing more and more Wegmans branded
652
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:47.160
stuff and they're like they're pushing the little guys, like
653
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:51.440
those those cool different brands off the shelf. Like it's
654
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:55.559
getting harder and harder to find, like more boutique items.
655
00:33:56.039 --> 00:34:00.519
It's all like everything says Wegmans. And my final gripe
656
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:06.359
is I do almost all my shopping on I riffed everything.
657
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:08.079
It's a thing about me.
658
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:10.360
I buy all my clothes on Poshmark and thread Up,
659
00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:13.599
and I buy everything for our house on Facebook Marketplace.
660
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:16.280
And one of the things I went on like a
661
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:19.840
shopping mission, I think it was last summer, to pick
662
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:23.960
up something kind of big from a farmer and was
663
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:28.440
kind of talking to him about what he grows and
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who he sells to and what it's like to be
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00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:32.679
a farmer. And he said, you know, I used to
666
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:36.119
sell to Wegmans a lot, but now you'll only find
667
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:40.119
my products and Trader Joe's is something about like the
668
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:44.079
bottom line, like Wegmans doesn't buy anymore.
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00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:49.280
Yeah, oh, after my whole spiel about how great they are,
670
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.320
this is the episode of just debunking myths.
671
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:57.079
Uh huh, well I do that's I was on board
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00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:00.440
with everything else, Michael, but like, I have very inflicting
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00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:01.519
feelings about Wegmans.
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00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:06.320
So anyway, it strikes me that they've gotten They've just
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00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:09.360
gone hardcore corporate at this point, and it's all about
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00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:12.239
the bottom line. Like I do understand that, But at
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00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:15.440
the same time, I do think it's a walk away
678
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:18.280
from what the brand I think was originally intended to be.
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00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:20.639
But yeah, I guess I'll just have to cling to
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00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:22.320
my memories and never go back because.
681
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:28.280
It's like anti Wegmans. That's just more pro Trader Joe's
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00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:31.360
because we buy more local produce.
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00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:34.199
So I feel like I'm supporting the little guy.
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00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:35.159
More, gotcha.
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00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:40.320
I don't know anyways, So Brian, congratulations, but thank you.
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00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:42.079
A well thought battle.
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Was it?
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Is it? Ever?
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00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:53.760
We have fun here though always? I mean, I just
690
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:56.000
got to say Piggly Wiggily a lot and Humpty Dumpty
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grocery store.
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00:35:56.519 --> 00:35:59.239
Who knew that was the thing? So I'm thrilled.
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00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:00.320
Where is Humpty empty?
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I don't know.
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00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:03.920
I think it was somewhere. It was it was in
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the south somewhere. I feel like I've seen it. I
697
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:08.079
feel like I've been in one, and I just can't recall.
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00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:08.400
Where.
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00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:11.920
Could you imagine buying eggs at Humpty Dumpty? I mean
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00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:13.039
they're all broken.
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00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:16.079
I don't know.
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00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:18.320
If I own Humpty Dumpty, I would be like, purposely
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00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:20.480
make the floor just a little uneven so people like
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00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:23.599
fall down a lot, but make it sort of an
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00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:25.480
optical lusion. You can't see it coming, but they do.
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00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:28.519
Just trip best scrambled eggs in the market. Uh, all right,
707
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:30.559
what's what's our topic for next week?
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00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:35.199
Okay? So your topic for next week? I was thinking
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00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:37.239
about it because I'm a new mom.
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00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:41.760
We read stories to our little girl every night, which
711
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:45.039
is honestly more for my benefit than hers, like she's
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00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:47.440
you know, still kind of dumb and doesn't know like
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00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:56.400
what sor It's okay, she will appreciate them someday. So
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00:36:56.719 --> 00:37:02.559
your topic is fairy tales? Oh yeah, but it can
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00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:05.320
be awe, but there are also some really dark story
716
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.000
like fairy tales out there. You can take it in
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00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:10.239
a weird direction if you want it true.
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00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:11.880
I'm gonna go try and go weird.
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That doesn't surprise me. You're gonna be like I see
720
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:18.400
your grim's fairy tales and it raised you with these
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00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:21.519
like really messed up once, like there was.
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00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:24.119
Well, I was about to tell you one, but I
723
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:25.760
don't want to because what if you want to talk
724
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:26.719
about it next week?
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00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:28.519
So I'm gonna.
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Leave it to your interpretation and discretion. It can be
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00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:35.440
ah light and airy and happy family times, or it
728
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:38.639
can be real dark and creepy and like, I don't know,
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teach some really hard.
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Lessons, okay, I mean fun.
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Okay, great, Well, thank you so much.
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You're so welcome. Thanks for inviting me. This was fun.
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