Tension's Running High E97 - Are Panthers members getting a good deal?

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Hello everyone and welcome to Tensions Running High, a Penrith
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I'm Troy Dodds, joined by Nathan Taylor. Hello Nathan.
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On the agenda today, a bit of a special edition
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as we compare club memberships. Are Panthers fans getting a
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good deal? And Nathan, this has come up because it is,
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of course... the time of year when it is time
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to renew memberships or maybe buy one for the first time.
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Yep.
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And there's been a lot of discussion about Panthers memberships
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for a few reasons. Number one, cost. Now, I always
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find cost a difficult one to deal with, but we
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are going to do some comparisons today. But cost is
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hard because what someone, depending on their circumstance, finds expensive
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and what someone doesn't is, you know, obviously depends, as
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I say, on circumstance, but also values are different. Like
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I might look at it and go, for me, $ 600
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is great value because I'm so passionate. Someone else who's
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maybe a casual fan might say that's a bit much.
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So we know that that's difficult. But one of the
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big things we want to talk about is inclusions in
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memberships and what happens beyond the seat. Because it is
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more than just a seat at the footy, you would think,
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I think.
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Oh, well, yeah, of course, of course. You become a member,
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you should be entitled to a range of benefits.
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And we're not just talking, you know, oh, I want
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to bump a sticker or something like that. But every
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little bit counts to the loyalty that you have for
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your club. And of course, when things don't go so
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well for your club, you want to still feel you've
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got that attachment as a member. Yeah, for sure.
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I mean, because we've been members for such a long time, Troy,
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we've seen how the memberships have changed in the last
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15 years. I remember when you first, when I first
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became a member, probably around 2010, 2011. Used to get
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a big membership pack, had the lot in it, had hats,
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it had your lanyard, your stickers, your voucher booklets, key rings,
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you name it, sometimes it'd be a scarf.
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And this is when, I don't even know if at
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that point we're quite calling it membership, they used to
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just be called season tickets.
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Season tickets.
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And then we kind of followed the AFL lead in
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terms of members, because AFL is obviously the kings of membership,
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becoming a member is... you know, the big thing to
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do if you're.
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An actual supporter. Proves that you're a real supporter.
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Proves you're a real supporter. And we're still, I almost argue,
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we're still relatively new to this in rugby league. You reckon?
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As in, I feel like if you're a member of Collingwood,
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you could have been a member for 25, 30 years.
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In rugby league, you may have had a season ticket,
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but you were literally buying a season ticket. You know,
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you weren't, it wasn't about being a member. It wasn't about,
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It wasn't being seen as supporting a club or whatever.
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Your priority was actually, I just want to sit in
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the same seat.
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Yeah, exactly.
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You know, now it's probably shifted a little bit to be, no,
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it's about showing my true support. I'm a true supporter
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if I'm a member.
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Yeah, I'm coming to at least every game or most
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games a year.
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Yeah, absolutely. All right, well, let's kick it off because
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we are going to do some comparisons and we've given
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ourselves a task.
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We have. Well, you have, yes.
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And we went and basically looked at every club. Now,
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we've got to put a little asterisk here, right? We're
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not members of every club. So we're trying to do
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this from the ground up. Some clubs make it more
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challenging than others. There's also a whole bunch of circumstances.
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Some clubs have... 12 home games, some have 10, some
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are taking games elsewhere. There's a lot of different factors.
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Some are playing at multiple venues. So there's a whole
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bunch of stuff that goes into it. So we're not
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saying this is 100% like-for-like comparisons. We know that there's differences.
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So for anyone who picks us up on all of that,
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we understand that. But we're just doing a basic comparison.
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And we are going to start with Panthers memberships because
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there's a lot of discussion around the Panthers memberships. Now
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there is no member pack this year. So that's, that's gone.
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Gone also is the whole, the last couple of years
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we've had the member shop, which was where you went
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on and you could buy some personalized products as well.
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I've got a backpack sitting in my car.
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So they would give you a store credit for instance.
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And you could basically buy as much as things you
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want for that $ 75. And if you wanted to buy
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other things, you just have to pay the extra, right?
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Yep. And I bought, um, I've got a backpack. I
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think I've got some drink bottles.
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I've got pins, like all the different logo pins and
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all sorts of things.
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Yeah. Now, that was a bit of a disaster in
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year one. I think the website was painfully slow in
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year one, and they improved it a little bit, but... Anyway,
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that's all gone. We're now back to essentially just a
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$ 30 shop voucher for the Panthers shop. Yep.
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The one to the Leagues Club or online.
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So you get a $ 30 voucher. That is basically the
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end outside of your actual ticket. That is the end
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of your inclusions. You're going to take us through it,
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but there's not much else. Also coming up was the
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fact that Panthers are cutting physical membership cards. Now, this
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is one of those things, membership cards... that you're going
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to get completely different views on, because I have friends
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who I know, they probably don't even know where their
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membership card is during the season, let alone after it,
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or in years to come, like they've lost it, or
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it's tossed around the kitchen, or whatever else. There's others
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who value that membership card, like that is the memento
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of their time supporting the club, and up it goes
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on the fridge, or on the home office, or wherever
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it might go, where you've got your Panthers memorabilia.
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Now.
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Panthers are axing that. We're going to a digital membership card.
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And I know I've had a rant about this in
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the past, but I think pull the other one as
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far as Panthers saying that members wanted this. They're trying,
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they've mounted an argument, and I know we caused a
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bit of a kerfuffle around this in the paper, but
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they mounted an argument that they did a survey in
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June or July of And that overwhelmingly said people were
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essentially happy to go to digital membership. As I said,
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pull the other one. The way the questions were framed,
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that is not the question that was asked. The question
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was not asked. would you be happy to replace your
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physical membership card with a digital card? If they wanted
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a true answer, that's the question, not the questions they asked.
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You ask it directly, yeah.
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Yeah, that's not the question they asked. I have another
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point that I'll bring up later on the Panthers' recent
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membership survey. Oh, okay. Because there was another one released
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in the last week. I'm a subscriber now. You've missed
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previous episodes. I've been unsubscribed. Now I'm getting everything twice.
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I get everything twice too. But look, the membership card
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thing is a big one because obviously it's the way
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of the world, you might argue, that we're doing digital ticketing.
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We're doing it for concerts. I mean, my uncle, who's
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passed away now, for years and years, he kept, wait
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for this, right? Not only did he keep every movie ticket,
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every movie he'd ever been to, right? Every concert ticket.
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He kept every train ticket. Oh, wow. Every train he
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had ever been on. So, during his working life, he'd
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buy a weekly. You know, he used to buy a weekly. Yeah, yeah,
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the weekly. He had piles of these tickets.
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So, he goes Penrith to Central. Yep. Just has that
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little red ticket.
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Has the ticket. And obviously, he couldn't do that later on.
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We get it. Times change. But I will say one thing.
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You go to a concert and have a look at
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that merch line to buy physical products. Yeah. To buy physical, like,
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I want this. I want this, you know, Taylor Swift shirt.
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Or I want this, you know, stubby holder or jumper
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or whatever.
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Guys, take note.
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People are spending money on merch.
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Yeah, and with concerts these days as well, you... For
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most concerts, you still can get the physical printout of
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the ticket. Or you can just print out a PDF.
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You can still print out PDFs as well and have
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your digital ticket on your phone too.
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They've got both options. But I might be wrong about that.
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I think you can actually go to the box office.
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I've heard about this. And ask for the physical printout.
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The actual ticket if you want it.
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That would be pretty interesting.
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If that's your thing. People do it, yeah. But look,
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I just think it's important to note that because as
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we move into a digital world, people actually do want merch. And,
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you know, you only have to watch... Like, I was watching...
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You know what I watched the other day? The Tina
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Turner 1993 performance at the Sydney Football Stadium.
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The grand final one.
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The grand final. And did she mind that, by the way?
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Have a look on YouTube. Let me know. Anyway. Is
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that the guy with the saxophone?
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Yes.
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Yeah, I love that one.
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That's good. But have a look in the crowd, right?
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I reckon I saw... 20 jerseys. Everyone else is just
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wearing their normal clothes. These days, it would be 98%
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you're wearing something of your club. So in the last
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30 or 40 years, we've actually gone, no, we want
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to wear more merch and more stuff. So I know
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that's a big leap, jersey from a physical ticket, but
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people want this stuff. They want to show their support
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and they want to be proud of it. All right, well,
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let's kick off our comparisons. Now, Nathan, you did the
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top eight. I did. And I did the bottom nine.
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Lucky you. Lucky me. Clubs that are really desperate for
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members in 2027. So take us through, off the top,
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the Mighty Panthers and their membership packages for 2027.
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Of course. So you gave us the task of giving
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us the sort of best seats in the house membership
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and then like a general admission package. as well.
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And when we say best seats in the house, we're
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not talking the crazies who want the.
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VIP $ 3, 000.
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Memberships, just the best standard seat in the house.
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The best standard seats in the house. So for the Pampers,
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that's the diamond membership. And for next year, that's going
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to cost you $ 600 for the entire season or $ 60
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per game for an adult. That gives you 10 games
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at Hello World Stadium because obviously we have 12, but
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one will be in Bathurst and the other one will
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be at Suncorp. So you're only getting 10 next year.
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You get a digital membership card.
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Yep. That's it. Can't wait.
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Oh, it's access to members, exclusive events. You get the
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$ 30 Panther Shop voucher for an adult, concession, and junior membership.
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So no matter if you're a kid or an adult
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or whatever, you're getting the same amount or $ 90 per
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a family membership. So even though you've got four people
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in a family, you're only getting three $ 30 vouchers. Interesting.
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Interesting.
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You also get your 10% off merchandise discount, which has
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been around for a long time. Not much, but every
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little bit helps, of course. And also a new highlight
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of the package this year is you have the ability
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to list your seat for games or games you can't attend.
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And once your seat sells, you'll receive a merchandise voucher. Now,
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this also caused a bit of controversy because basically Panthers,
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we believe, are double dipping here. So instead of you
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selling your seat, And getting the $ 80 for the seat
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or the $ 60 for the seat, you're going to get
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a $ 60 voucher instead, and Panthers will get that $ 80 again.
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I actually don't even know if you're getting a $ 60 voucher.
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Oh, you think they're not even giving you like for like?
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Well, I think in the most recent membership survey, the suggestion,
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in my opinion, was that it's going to be a
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$ 20 voucher. Because that's the question they asked in the survey.
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Would you lease your seat? for a $ 20 voucher. So
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I don't know, but that's just... Oh, okay.
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Well, that's obviously... Yeah, that's news to us.
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But you can lease your seat, which I just want
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to say, I don't think in Australia in particular that
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many people will do that. They're just going to give
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their ticket to a friend.
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Or they just won't go.
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Or just won't go.
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Because they can lease their seat, but someone won't want
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to buy your seat anyway.
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Correct. And I mean, you know, most games aren't sold out.
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Exactly.
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In Penrith.
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So.
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Unless they're leasing the seat. Unless you can get it
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discounted because you're buying a discounted seat.
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Who knows how that's going to work.
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We should try it this year.
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We should, yeah. At least you might. Sounds good.
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And the final one you get with the Panthers $ 600
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Diamond membership is just access to NRL finals and State
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of Origin tickets, which we know really doesn't make much
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of an advantage because they don't release all the seats.
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But I digress. So that is for $ 600 Diamond membership.
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That's all you're getting, folks. There's no hat discount. lanyard
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membership card anything like that sticker bumper sticker nothing that's
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your that's what you're getting.
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I will just point out i understand there is actually
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a member's cap and it will be 30 so if
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you want to buy the members.
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So you still have to use your 30 credit you
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can you don't get that as well as now you.
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Mentioned about being a family of four so three people
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can wear a hat someone else is gonna have to
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wear an old hat.
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Um now we go to the general admission so that's
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going to be that's actually really good value well it's
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Compared to other clubs, which we'll go through later, $ 200
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for the entire season, $ 20 per adult per game, access
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to all 10 games at Hello World, of course. On
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the standing general admission hills, stand proud and cheer on
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your team. So, you know the hills that we all
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fought for to keep at Hello World Stadium? Apparently, yep.
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Well.
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You can go... That's where your general admission now is,
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and you need to stand. Now, we got this checked
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with Pampers a few months ago, and they assured us that, no,
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you can sit as well. So, what's the go here?
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I don't know. It's very interesting that they're... Like, even
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in the Pampers memberships, but I saw it in other
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things as well. Yeah, they're very adamant that this is
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a standing area.
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Standing area. Now....
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Look, I get it. You fit more people, whatever. But
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it's just an interesting concept to me because that family
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hill traditionally has been, well, bring a blanket if you want.
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Family hill, you can sit. Beer hill, I think a
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lot of people are standing.
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I think most people have always stood. I think most
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people have stood. Now, don't get me wrong. I really
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doubt that if it's a crowd, it's like it's a 14,000 crowd.
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and you've got your blanket out, surely no one from
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Venues NSW or Panthers is coming along and saying, hey,
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stand up, stand up on that blanket.
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It wouldn't surprise me, though. These days, it wouldn't surprise me.
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You'd hope not.
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But I think that GA price needed to be that
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because it's Hills only for GA. Like you have most
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other stadiums, not all, but most, you would have some
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sort of seated GA arrangement, not at Penrith next year.
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Of course.
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And all the other listed membership inclusions I said before,
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digital membership card, The $ 30 voucher applies even if you're
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paying $ 200 a season and $ 600 a season. So that's
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still the same. You're 10% off at the Panthers shop.
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One thing they have included here, which they didn't include
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in the top one, but I can assure you that
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does include, is a Panthers Leagues Club membership for over
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18s only. which usually costs $ 5 anyway, but you get
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that included.
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Now, just on that, did you do this? I do this.
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You can actually sign up to Pandas for five years, right?
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So can you only do one year?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, okay.
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One year at a time, yeah.
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So you can only do a one-year deal.
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I've only done a one-year deal this year. So that's
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basically it.
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I'm off contract this year.
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You haven't re-signed with the Pandas Leagues Club?
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No, I'm off contract.
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Oh, okay. You've got to October 31, I think, to
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get in.
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Yeah, well, I might get a five-year deal. Oh, yeah,
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I might do your one-year deal idea. So that's it, Troy,
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for Panthers.
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So you're really not, apart from getting a seat to
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a game, you're not getting anything else different between a
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general membership and a diamond.
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And look, as a current Panthers member, and we won't
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sort of talk about this with everyone, but I am
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disappointed with the membership offerings. What do you think? Oh, absolutely.
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I think this is.
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I don't care about the... I think the price is fine. Like,
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$ 60 a game, premium stadium, new stadium, Panthers now tenants. Yeah, yeah.
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No, I'm with you there. I think we've gone backwards. Like,
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as I said, when I first became a member, season
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ticket holder member 15 years ago, the amount of stuff
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you'd get... Obviously, it was a lot cheaper as well, too. Like,
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you're paying... I think we were paying $ 350 for a
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diamond back then, or $ 400. Like, and then it slowly
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went up over the years, of course, as everything does.
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But the inclusions is... I think is, and you'll see
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when we go through the other clubs, is what Panthers
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are lacking. It's ridiculous. You literally, you're not really, like
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you used to get the membership packs in the.
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Mail at Christmas time. And that was a great moment.
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And a lot of Christmas. I don't know what you're
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going to get this year, Troy. Is this going to
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be a digital Panthers voucher that will come through your email?
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You can print out your email and put it in
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a Christmas card. And your digital membership card, like add
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to Apple Wallet and that's it.
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That'll be it. That'll be it.
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It's ridiculous.
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I think it's ridiculous.
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I think you need, in terms of the digital membership card,
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I think you need to have both options. I love
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the digital membership card idea for people that want to
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use that, but you need a physical option as well.
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You need to have both because there's people out there
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that might have phones, elderly kids, who knows. It just
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makes sense to have both options.
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I know this sounds silly, but even with the digital option,
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there's just something about you leaving for the footy and
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you pick up your.
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And just wearing it around at the footy.
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And this is what a few people brought up at
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the time when Panthers made this call. is the amount
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of people in the stadium who even on the home
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final against the Roosters when you didn't need that ticket
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to enter still had it around their neck. It's just
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this thing you do when you go to the footy. Yeah,
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of course. I think Panthers have convinced themselves somehow or
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someone has convinced them that right now this is just
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all about getting people in. They're just happy to buy
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a ticket. Look, you know, everyone wants to come back
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to Penrith. Everyone wants to be a member. We're riding heights.
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the inclusions don't matter. And I think that's a really
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poor approach. They've got it wrong. And they can complain
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about us saying that all they like. They can disagree
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all they like or whatever. I've been a Panthers member,
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I reckon, longer than anyone in that membership team has
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worked for Panthers. And I would almost say we've probably
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been members longer than the entire membership team combined, if
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I wanted to say. And that's no offense to them,
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but I'm saying you can all claim you're right. You
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can all claim, oh, but this survey says this and
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whatever else. Well, maybe should actually speak to and listen
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to long-term members and actually ask questions in a survey
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that are not looking for some confirmation bias and actually
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give you a proper answer.
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100%.
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And you said we're riding high, Troy, but it's gone,
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I know it sounds silly, but it's been two or
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three years since they've won a premiership by the time
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they get into Halloworld Stadium. Oh, yeah, look, there'll be
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a time. You know, you've got to take that into account.
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Like when you're coming off a premiership win, yeah, you can,
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pretty much do whatever you want. You can charge more.
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You can charge more for sponsors. You can charge more
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for people because they want it. It's in demand. But
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when you're not winning comps, then you sort of fall
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back to the pack a bit in that regard.
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And I know that Panthers would probably disagree with this,
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and I know that maybe they'll find a stat that
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defies this. I guarantee you that when you are in a,
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and I'm going to call it cookie cutter, but when
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you are in a stadium like Hello World, a core,
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ComBank stadium, The feeling that, like, I have to go
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to that stadium this week because, you know, that's just
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what I do. I'll miss that wedding or I'll miss
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that whatever because I need to be there. It almost
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dissipates a little bit because it's a little bit more
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of a bland experience. Now, that's no criticism of the
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actual stadium. I'm saying this about any other stadium as
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well because what I'm saying, I think, is you have
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to fight more for people to turn up. And if
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Penrith start performing poorly... And people start to go, oh,
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$ 600 and whatever else. It's not selling out. I can
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just pick the games I want to go to. I'm
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not getting anything else as a member anyway.
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Yeah, 100%.
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And one of the criticisms I've always had of Panthers
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in membership too is that they don't acknowledge your longevity
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as a member. Either making it cheaper, and if they
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can't do that, economically fine. But even just acknowledging, hey,
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you're now a 10-year member.
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He's a coin.
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He's a coin or something like that. Yeah. the times
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of oh we don't know that data doesn't exist is
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over because you know what you've been saying that for
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10 or 15 years now so you could at least
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at the very minimum you could say you're a 15-year
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member yeah we know you're a 15-year member plus you
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know we unfortunately we don't have the stats to prove
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you're a 40-year member 15 plus, you get a coin,
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you get a hat, wherever it is, but you're doing
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nothing right now. Absolutely zero right now. to convince someone
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that they should renew every single year.
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And stay loyal.
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And stay loyal.
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Yeah.
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All right, let's look at some of the other clubs.
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What have you got in the top eight?
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Now, Troy, obviously New Zealand Warriors came second in this
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year's premiership, but unfortunately their packages aren't available until October 31.
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Okay.
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So there's actually no information. I've signed up. I've signed
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up to receive information. So let's see if that comes through.
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They'll probably start calling me to see if... If I
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want to sign up. And the Dolphins, they've got no
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packages available either. They're just like coming soon, 2027.
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And that'll be a tricky one because obviously they play
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out of two venues too. True.
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Okay.
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But next one I'll move to is the Sydney Roosters.
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Obviously they finished premieres. They finished fourth this year, but
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obviously won the grand final a couple of weeks ago.
485
00:20:54.779 --> 00:21:00.130
Now I think they're, package is excellent value for money.
486
00:21:00.750 --> 00:21:04.150
I'll run it through you. So their diamond, for instance,
487
00:21:04.210 --> 00:21:06.690
is called a gold membership and it's called great seats.
488
00:21:07.150 --> 00:21:11.150
They're great seats. Okay. So you get a gold reserve
489
00:21:11.190 --> 00:21:14.230
seat for all games at Allianz Stadium in 2027.
490
00:21:14.230 --> 00:21:14.589
Yep.
491
00:21:15.009 --> 00:21:17.369
Plus you get a gold reserve seat for their game
492
00:21:17.410 --> 00:21:19.910
in Gosford, which I believe is Polytech Stadium in 2027.
493
00:21:19.910 --> 00:21:20.390
I saw it.
494
00:21:20.390 --> 00:21:22.150
Just the other day, actually. I drove right past it.
495
00:21:22.150 --> 00:21:24.490
You would have seen it. Beautiful stadium. You also get
496
00:21:24.539 --> 00:21:28.349
a 2027 members cap. And you also get a member's pack,
497
00:21:28.410 --> 00:21:30.970
including a member's card, a lanyard, a bumper sticker, a
498
00:21:31.049 --> 00:21:33.529
fixture magnet. That's something Panthers used to do. And a
499
00:21:33.589 --> 00:21:37.789
key ring. And you have the option to purchase from
500
00:21:37.869 --> 00:21:40.119
two premium add-ons for your member pack. So I think
501
00:21:40.150 --> 00:21:42.940
there's some other premium add-ons you can add to the
502
00:21:42.980 --> 00:21:45.400
mix if you want to. Plus, you get a digital
503
00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:47.660
member card for you to download on your Apple Wallet
504
00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:51.680
or Google Wallet. You get a Roosters MyPay members receive
505
00:21:51.740 --> 00:21:55.619
an exclusive 2027 collector card. You get 10% off merchandise
506
00:21:55.660 --> 00:21:58.849
at the Roosters shop. You get discounted offers to all
507
00:21:58.930 --> 00:22:02.099
Sydney Roosters Allianz Stadium home games. You get all the
508
00:22:02.140 --> 00:22:06.799
club news. You get complimentary membership into East's Bondi Junction.
509
00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:11.470
Exclusive member events throughout the year. Public transport to and
510
00:22:11.509 --> 00:22:15.190
from Allianz Stadium as well. Because obviously, I don't believe
511
00:22:15.210 --> 00:22:18.349
that's available for Penrith fans if they're coming... From outside
512
00:22:18.369 --> 00:22:20.089
of Penrith. From outside of Penrith. Like if you've got
513
00:22:20.109 --> 00:22:22.410
Penrith or Parramatta, are you allowed to get a free
514
00:22:22.470 --> 00:22:23.849
train to Penrith? Not that I've seen.
515
00:22:23.869 --> 00:22:24.869
You think they would have included that?
516
00:22:25.029 --> 00:22:26.329
You think they would have told you that, but you
517
00:22:26.450 --> 00:22:29.430
are for Allianz. You get priority access to pre-purchase like
518
00:22:29.509 --> 00:22:32.670
Anzac Day tickets and stuff like that. Plus you get
519
00:22:32.730 --> 00:22:35.539
the 2027 Anzac Day match is a Sydney Roosters home
520
00:22:35.579 --> 00:22:37.839
game and is included in the membership. So that's a
521
00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:40.099
huge game. It's almost like a finals game for them.
522
00:22:40.339 --> 00:22:43.180
All that. As you mentioned there too, members card continues
523
00:22:43.220 --> 00:22:46.140
despite being a bigger venue and Panthers like to claim
524
00:22:46.220 --> 00:22:51.250
that faster access is one of the big benefits so
525
00:22:51.369 --> 00:22:53.490
unfortunately Roosters fans you might have to get there a
526
00:22:53.490 --> 00:22:55.869
little bit earlier because the line up to get in
527
00:22:55.890 --> 00:22:57.130
with your physical card will.
528
00:22:57.009 --> 00:23:00.829
Be difficult it will so Troy believe it or not
529
00:23:01.190 --> 00:23:04.259
all that and I believe all their they've got multiple
530
00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:06.890
games I think probably 12 games I'm not quite sure
531
00:23:06.910 --> 00:23:08.880
we haven't seen the draw yet so we don't know
532
00:23:08.900 --> 00:23:11.779
whether the Roosters Magic Round game is a home one
533
00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:13.900
or not but if not it's $ 610 for the entire
534
00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:17.990
season okay So $ 10 more than Penrith, but look at
535
00:23:18.009 --> 00:23:19.230
all the stuff you get.
536
00:23:19.269 --> 00:23:20.470
Yes, absolutely.
537
00:23:20.529 --> 00:23:21.349
It's quite extensive.
538
00:23:21.369 --> 00:23:22.250
Pretty good for the premiers.
539
00:23:22.589 --> 00:23:25.750
Now, the general admission for the Roosters is, again, all
540
00:23:25.769 --> 00:23:28.049
the stuff is very similar to the gold one. So
541
00:23:28.069 --> 00:23:31.660
you get your bronze, a bronze unreserved seat, sorry, for
542
00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:35.880
Allianz and for Polytech, plus your public transport, your members cap,
543
00:23:35.900 --> 00:23:38.220
your members pack, your card, your digital membership, all the
544
00:23:38.259 --> 00:23:40.960
stuff I listed off earlier, $ 310 for the entire season.
545
00:23:40.980 --> 00:23:41.089
Okay.
546
00:23:42.859 --> 00:23:45.420
Okay, so obviously a little bit more expensive than the
547
00:23:45.460 --> 00:23:47.220
Panther one, but at least you don't have to stand
548
00:23:47.259 --> 00:23:47.960
on a grassy hill.
549
00:23:47.980 --> 00:23:49.039
And you're getting all the inclusions.
550
00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:50.880
And you're undercover and you got a seat.
551
00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:52.480
Yep, absolutely.
552
00:23:52.500 --> 00:23:57.019
Okay, so I think that's pretty good. They're the premiers
553
00:23:57.099 --> 00:23:59.740
and that's a bloody decent membership pack. So the next
554
00:23:59.799 --> 00:24:02.180
one is the Cronulla Sharks. Now they are also a
555
00:24:02.220 --> 00:24:06.180
little bit a ways off from promoting their memberships.
556
00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:06.849
Okay.
557
00:24:06.940 --> 00:24:10.869
I do have some information already, but in terms of pricing,
558
00:24:10.890 --> 00:24:13.700
they haven't released it yet. So next season, the Sharks
559
00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:18.039
are going to have 11 match days at Ocean Protect Stadium.
560
00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:18.299
Yep.
561
00:24:18.619 --> 00:24:19.039
Okay.
562
00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:24.240
So you get a reserve seat, okay, to all NRL
563
00:24:24.259 --> 00:24:26.299
games there at the stadium. You also get entry to
564
00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:31.099
all 2027 NRLW home matches played at Ocean Protect. You
565
00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:34.329
get an exclusive members pack, including a cap, lanyard, bumper sticker,
566
00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:37.660
key ring, car, air freshener. And an anniversary photo book
567
00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:39.319
celebrating 60 years of the Sharks.
568
00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:41.160
I'm going to become a Sharks member. That's a great deal.
569
00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:43.200
And so lanyard would suggest members card.
570
00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:43.799
Yes.
571
00:24:44.259 --> 00:24:45.299
I'm not just giving you a lanyard.
572
00:24:45.460 --> 00:24:48.569
Yeah, exactly. You also get discounts at Ocean Protect Stadium
573
00:24:48.589 --> 00:24:51.920
food and beverage outlets, which is what Panthers fans used
574
00:24:51.940 --> 00:24:54.450
to have before the stadium closed down. And also access
575
00:24:54.470 --> 00:24:57.309
to members only bars too. I'm not sure whether Hello
576
00:24:57.670 --> 00:25:00.190
World is going to have that, but special access. This
577
00:25:00.250 --> 00:25:03.009
is also a good one that I don't believe a
578
00:25:03.049 --> 00:25:04.569
lot of clubs have, but you also get access to
579
00:25:04.670 --> 00:25:07.609
all Newtown Jets games at Anson Park. Obviously, Newtown is
580
00:25:07.630 --> 00:25:11.160
their feeder club. So if you wanted to see their reserve.
581
00:25:10.660 --> 00:25:12.519
Team all around. I think if you want to go
582
00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:16.119
watch Penrith at Parker Street Oval, that is included. You
583
00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:16.980
can get included.
584
00:25:17.019 --> 00:25:20.180
But sometimes before when it was at other stadiums.
585
00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:21.660
Yes, at Mary's League, it was five bucks or something.
586
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:24.549
Exactly right. They're also doing the seat resale opportunity for
587
00:25:24.569 --> 00:25:26.029
match days if you're unable to attend.
588
00:25:26.170 --> 00:25:26.269
Yep.
589
00:25:27.089 --> 00:25:29.990
But they haven't said what you get for the money there.
590
00:25:30.089 --> 00:25:33.420
You get 10% off the Sharks store, 10% discount other
591
00:25:33.460 --> 00:25:39.740
Sharks home matches, and member-only events, invitations. So I don't
592
00:25:39.779 --> 00:25:41.079
have a price for you, Troy, on that, but I
593
00:25:41.099 --> 00:25:43.769
can't imagine it's going to be in the $ 600s because
594
00:25:43.809 --> 00:25:45.210
it's Ocean Protect Stadium.
595
00:25:45.289 --> 00:25:48.609
It's not very good. All right, well, we'll keep an
596
00:25:48.670 --> 00:25:50.150
eye on the price, but the inclusion's very good.
597
00:25:50.289 --> 00:25:53.609
Excellent inclusions. Excellent inclusions. South Sydney Mirabados.
598
00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:54.819
Prior to the league.
599
00:25:55.170 --> 00:25:59.240
Pride of the League. One comp in a thousand years. Now,
600
00:25:59.259 --> 00:26:01.500
they're also a bit scarce with pricing at this stage.
601
00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:02.720
It's quite weird that.
602
00:26:02.619 --> 00:26:03.579
All these comps.
603
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:06.119
Yeah, I mean, Panthers have taken my payment already for
604
00:26:06.180 --> 00:26:07.099
next year, let alone being on sale.
605
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:09.799
They've taken mine too. Okay. But they're basically saying a
606
00:26:09.819 --> 00:26:12.549
reserve membership, which guarantees you a seat at every Accor
607
00:26:12.569 --> 00:26:15.250
Stadium and an Allianz Stadium home game for next year.
608
00:26:15.289 --> 00:26:19.210
That's right. It's going to cost you from $ 18 per month.
609
00:26:20.170 --> 00:26:20.410
Okay.
610
00:26:21.009 --> 00:26:22.349
So, you see what I'm saying here?
611
00:26:22.539 --> 00:26:22.970
Per month.
612
00:26:23.170 --> 00:26:25.190
Per month. Okay. Okay.
613
00:26:25.259 --> 00:26:25.599
Interesting.
614
00:26:25.779 --> 00:26:25.990
Okay.
615
00:26:26.150 --> 00:26:30.500
I'm not sure what that means, but $ 18 per month.
616
00:26:31.180 --> 00:26:35.160
And a GA membership, an unreserved seat, gives you a
617
00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:37.559
seat at, of course, General Mission Bays at a core
618
00:26:37.579 --> 00:26:40.460
stadium and Allianz Stadium as well. And their prices start
619
00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:41.539
at $ 16 per month.
620
00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:41.859
Okay.
621
00:26:42.339 --> 00:26:43.880
This is all the information they've got so far.
622
00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:44.720
Okay.
623
00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:47.980
But in terms of their inclusions, they have multiple packs
624
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:50.349
you can choose from. Okay, so you know where some
625
00:26:50.369 --> 00:26:52.230
clubs they just give you one standard pack. Or at
626
00:26:52.250 --> 00:26:55.069
the Rabbitohs, they've got an adult pack A, which is
627
00:26:55.170 --> 00:26:59.170
basically got a cap, coasters, commemorative coin, car refreshment, lanyard
628
00:26:59.190 --> 00:26:59.910
and membership card.
629
00:26:59.930 --> 00:27:00.920
A membership card?
630
00:27:01.160 --> 00:27:04.519
Yeah, an adult pack B with a beanie, scarf, membership card, lanyard,
631
00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:06.660
commemorative coin. So you could pick either one or two.
632
00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:08.700
Or you can get an adult premium pack, which has
633
00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:11.759
the full collection that I just listed off earlier, plus
634
00:27:11.779 --> 00:27:14.990
an exclusive limited edition print, scarf, cap, cooler bag and
635
00:27:15.009 --> 00:27:15.609
stubby holder.
636
00:27:15.869 --> 00:27:17.430
Okay, cool. So great inclusion.
637
00:27:17.470 --> 00:27:19.359
Great inclusion. And they have this for juniors as well.
638
00:27:19.390 --> 00:27:20.700
So if you want a kid's membership, they have their
639
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:22.900
own little kiddie ones as well with all sorts of
640
00:27:22.940 --> 00:27:23.420
different things.
641
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:25.900
Panthers used to do that because I have two memberships.
642
00:27:26.299 --> 00:27:28.380
Sometimes my wife comes, sometimes my mate, but I always
643
00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:30.200
used to ask them for the kid's pack because I
644
00:27:30.220 --> 00:27:31.559
had the other merch.
645
00:27:31.779 --> 00:27:34.609
Because it had different stuff in it, of course. So yeah,
646
00:27:34.619 --> 00:27:37.829
while we're a bit scarce on prices, we know the
647
00:27:37.869 --> 00:27:39.549
packs and the packs are pretty decent.
648
00:27:39.589 --> 00:27:42.369
And they look really good. So far, the packs from
649
00:27:42.410 --> 00:27:44.730
all these other clubs are very good. We don't know
650
00:27:44.750 --> 00:27:46.349
Dolphins Warriors, but the other is very good.
651
00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:49.460
Newcastle Knights Troy obviously made the grand final this year.
652
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:53.130
So you think they would be keen to pounce on
653
00:27:53.170 --> 00:27:58.289
that popularity, of course, around Newcastle. So they're offering a
654
00:27:58.349 --> 00:28:02.309
full season reserve ticket for $ 595 each for adults.
655
00:28:02.809 --> 00:28:03.130
Okay.
656
00:28:03.170 --> 00:28:05.630
That's a seat for 12 Knights games.
657
00:28:05.670 --> 00:28:07.930
Yeah, because I think they have no games anywhere else.
658
00:28:07.930 --> 00:28:12.759
12 Knights games. And you're paying cheaper than Penrith, of course. $ 595. Okay.
659
00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:16.079
You also get general admission to standalone Knights NRLW games.
660
00:28:17.210 --> 00:28:19.390
A $ 20 club shop voucher during your birthday month.
661
00:28:19.930 --> 00:28:20.210
Okay.
662
00:28:20.829 --> 00:28:23.829
You also get a member's pack, including a cap, member card, lanyard,
663
00:28:23.910 --> 00:28:24.150
and more.
664
00:28:24.170 --> 00:28:24.509
Member card.
665
00:28:24.549 --> 00:28:26.049
I'm not sure what the more is, but yes, you
666
00:28:26.069 --> 00:28:28.750
get a member card. And you get 10% off merchandise,
667
00:28:28.789 --> 00:28:30.390
game day tickets, and food and beverage.
668
00:28:31.130 --> 00:28:32.750
Oh, pretty good. So, excellent.
669
00:28:32.890 --> 00:28:36.069
Okay. And then, obviously, there's a general admission one, which is,
670
00:28:36.150 --> 00:28:38.109
they say it's the Hill general admission.
671
00:28:38.269 --> 00:28:38.430
Yep.
672
00:28:38.690 --> 00:28:41.079
Okay. You get all the stuff I listed off earlier,
673
00:28:41.210 --> 00:28:44.160
including your member's card, your member's pack, et cetera, but
674
00:28:44.180 --> 00:28:44.480
they're $ 240 each.
675
00:28:44.500 --> 00:28:44.579
Okay.
676
00:28:46.509 --> 00:28:47.130
Okay. All right.
677
00:28:47.490 --> 00:28:47.990
But you're getting.
678
00:28:48.009 --> 00:28:48.970
You're getting more games.
679
00:28:48.990 --> 00:28:49.809
You're getting more games.
680
00:28:49.829 --> 00:28:51.990
You're probably getting... That's the more affordable membership.
681
00:28:52.190 --> 00:28:52.690
Absolutely.
682
00:28:52.750 --> 00:28:52.890
Yeah.
683
00:28:53.670 --> 00:28:55.730
We move on to the North Queensland Cowboys. Now, their
684
00:28:55.750 --> 00:28:58.519
best seats in the house are Platinum Star Troy. So
685
00:28:58.539 --> 00:29:00.900
for next year, you're getting 12 regular season home games
686
00:29:00.940 --> 00:29:02.160
in the Eastern Grandstand.
687
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:02.500
Yep.
688
00:29:02.789 --> 00:29:05.190
And you get your choice of an adult merchandise pack
689
00:29:05.210 --> 00:29:09.450
featuring a backpack, member's cap, stubby holder, playing cards, air freshener,
690
00:29:09.509 --> 00:29:11.390
bumper sticker, lanyard, and member card.
691
00:29:12.089 --> 00:29:12.549
Member card?
692
00:29:12.670 --> 00:29:13.069
Member card.
693
00:29:13.109 --> 00:29:14.869
I'm kind of a Cowboys member and all that stuff.
694
00:29:15.569 --> 00:29:17.609
So it's your choice of, so you get either that,
695
00:29:17.630 --> 00:29:20.869
you can get a junior membership pack, which, can I
696
00:29:20.890 --> 00:29:22.509
just read it out? Because it's quite a little bit different.
697
00:29:22.910 --> 00:29:25.980
You get a boot bag, a spiky wig, a glow-in-the-dark stickers,
698
00:29:26.019 --> 00:29:29.640
member's cap, bouncy ball pencil case with gibbets, lanyard, and
699
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:30.220
member card.
700
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:30.349
Wow.
701
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.440
Or you can get a $ 30 Cowboys Team Shop voucher,
702
00:29:33.460 --> 00:29:35.130
which includes a lanyard and member card.
703
00:29:35.609 --> 00:29:36.390
A member card.
704
00:29:36.650 --> 00:29:38.269
So you get your $ 30 voucher for the Team Shop
705
00:29:38.289 --> 00:29:39.960
plus a lanyard and member card. So you can choose one.
706
00:29:39.990 --> 00:29:40.859
of those three options.
707
00:29:40.990 --> 00:29:41.279
Okay.
708
00:29:42.230 --> 00:29:45.519
You also get first access to regular home game tickets
709
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:49.240
for both the NRLW and NRL competitions. You get exclusive
710
00:29:49.259 --> 00:29:51.759
members offers. Cowboys Leagues Club membership is 20% off food
711
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:54.019
and drink at the Cowboys Leagues Club and Podium Cafe.
712
00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:54.240
That's 20%.
713
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:58.779
10% off at the Cowboys Team Shop. 10% off home
714
00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:01.460
game tickets for family and friends. If you've got family
715
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:03.400
and friends that want to go to games, they're not members,
716
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:06.440
10% off. And you also get your exclusive digital content
717
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:11.410
and club news. That's $ 629 true. Okay. So pretty decent.
718
00:30:12.069 --> 00:30:12.829
And that's 12 games.
719
00:30:12.890 --> 00:30:14.990
That's 12 games. And that's a new stadium too. Like
720
00:30:15.009 --> 00:30:17.089
that's only like five years old, that stadium.
721
00:30:17.210 --> 00:30:17.950
Yep.
722
00:30:18.009 --> 00:30:23.960
Their, how would you call it? Their GA one is
723
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:30.190
called a Gold Star. Yep. Yeah. It's not essentially GAGA.
724
00:30:30.269 --> 00:30:32.750
You still enjoy a reserved seat in the northern or
725
00:30:32.829 --> 00:30:37.210
southern grandstands. Okay. But you basically get all the inclusions
726
00:30:37.430 --> 00:30:41.710
I rattled off earlier, including your members pack or whatever
727
00:30:41.730 --> 00:30:44.619
you like to choose from there, your discounts at your
728
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:46.160
food and beverage. But that one's only $ 319. So $ 300 cheaper,
729
00:30:46.180 --> 00:30:47.799
but you're sitting on the ends of the stadium.
730
00:30:47.819 --> 00:30:48.079
Okay.
731
00:30:52.130 --> 00:30:52.609
Okay.
732
00:30:53.069 --> 00:30:56.690
So pretty, pretty good. And that rattles off the top eight.
733
00:30:56.950 --> 00:30:59.009
All right. Now, so I think what we take from
734
00:30:59.069 --> 00:31:03.170
that so far, we don't know the Warriors Dolphins, but
735
00:31:03.190 --> 00:31:08.130
you would say the Panthers Inclusions and Packs is the
736
00:31:08.210 --> 00:31:09.450
worst of that lot.
737
00:31:10.190 --> 00:31:11.789
You get nothing with the Panthers one.
738
00:31:11.849 --> 00:31:15.130
Essentially nothing. So that's not even an opinion. That's a fact, right?
739
00:31:15.150 --> 00:31:17.799
That's not even, there's no opinion in that. No. That's fact.
740
00:31:17.819 --> 00:31:22.230
That's fact. Price-wise, some cheaper, some dearer, about the same.
741
00:31:22.730 --> 00:31:24.049
But you've got to take account, a lot of the
742
00:31:24.069 --> 00:31:25.990
other teams there, you're getting two extra games.
743
00:31:26.089 --> 00:31:27.829
Yeah, yeah. So we're probably on the expensive side.
744
00:31:28.170 --> 00:31:30.099
But those teams aren't as good either as Penrith, so
745
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:31.460
maybe take that into account as well.
746
00:31:31.940 --> 00:31:34.119
All right. Well, I was tasked with the bottom nine. Oh,
747
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:36.700
this will be good. So we start with the Manly
748
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:37.920
Sea Eagles.
749
00:31:38.700 --> 00:31:38.880
Now.
750
00:31:39.500 --> 00:31:43.759
Their member pack, Nathan, includes a cap, a scarf, a
751
00:31:43.859 --> 00:31:48.109
bumper sticker, a key ring, and your member card with lanyard. So,
752
00:31:48.130 --> 00:31:49.130
you get a member card there.
753
00:31:49.150 --> 00:31:49.730
That's what you want.
754
00:31:50.230 --> 00:31:53.910
Now, you get 5% discount on food and non-alcoholic beverages.
755
00:31:53.930 --> 00:31:56.710
They're at Four Pines Park. So, all your Four Pines,
756
00:31:56.769 --> 00:32:01.529
full price still, but 5% off otherwise. 11 games there. So,
757
00:32:01.549 --> 00:32:04.319
they've got one game away from Brookvale. Now, their price
758
00:32:04.380 --> 00:32:05.960
is $ 610 for your adult premium.
759
00:32:05.980 --> 00:32:06.039
So.
760
00:32:09.390 --> 00:32:11.769
I guess you could say on par with Penrith. I
761
00:32:11.789 --> 00:32:15.089
know Penrith's got one less game. And 340 for your GA. Now,
762
00:32:15.529 --> 00:32:17.210
that's a bit expensive, but I think a lot of
763
00:32:17.259 --> 00:32:18.480
people want a GA there.
764
00:32:18.500 --> 00:32:19.859
They want to stand on that hill. They like standing
765
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:20.779
on that hill, yeah.
766
00:32:20.819 --> 00:32:22.680
But you get your member card, you get your member
767
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:24.539
pack and all that in your 11 games.
768
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:24.940
I like it.
769
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:28.779
The Melbourne Storm. Now, the number of games for them
770
00:32:28.819 --> 00:32:32.579
not clear at this stage, but the member pack includes...
771
00:32:32.670 --> 00:32:36.210
a cap or scarf, so you choose your poison, a
772
00:32:36.269 --> 00:32:39.890
bumper sticker, and your member card and lanyard. Right, yeah.
773
00:32:39.910 --> 00:32:40.809
So you'll get your member card there.
774
00:32:40.829 --> 00:32:41.750
That's another club, yep.
775
00:32:41.950 --> 00:32:47.549
Now, Melbourne is quite expensive, up to about $ 850 for premium. Why?
776
00:32:47.670 --> 00:32:52.450
For Melbourne. So that's, yeah, pretty expensive. There are other levels,
777
00:32:52.809 --> 00:32:55.170
but if you want your absolute best seat in the
778
00:32:55.210 --> 00:32:56.869
house there at Amy Park, you're at about $ 850.
779
00:32:56.809 --> 00:32:56.970
Jeez.
780
00:32:56.970 --> 00:33:02.579
$ 286 for GA. Okay. Now, the Canberra Raiders, I was
781
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:04.549
very impressed with Ricky and the Raiders, what they're doing
782
00:33:04.569 --> 00:33:08.930
down there. So your member pack includes a scarf, member's cup.
783
00:33:09.869 --> 00:33:13.509
I'm sure that's a cap I've written, surely. You're either
784
00:33:13.529 --> 00:33:16.269
getting a cup or a cap. A bumper sticker, your
785
00:33:16.309 --> 00:33:18.819
member card and lanyard, and a keyboard mat.
786
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:19.579
A keyboard mat?
787
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:19.839
Yeah.
788
00:33:19.900 --> 00:33:21.660
What's a keyboard mat? Is that an old, like it
789
00:33:21.700 --> 00:33:22.460
used to be a mouse pad?
790
00:33:22.500 --> 00:33:23.980
It used to be a mouse pad, but maybe they've
791
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:27.619
got a keyboard now. Okay. 10% off food and drink
792
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.049
at GIO Stadium. As I said, you get your member's
793
00:33:30.089 --> 00:33:34.529
card there. Now, it's only $ 470 for your adult premium there.
794
00:33:34.549 --> 00:33:37.650
I'm not sure on the number of games. At least 10.
795
00:33:37.650 --> 00:33:39.099
At least 10, but I reckon they play 11, if
796
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:43.220
not 12, depending on Magic Brown. Yeah, yeah. $ 470 for
797
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:46.269
your adult premium, $ 260 for GA.
798
00:33:46.650 --> 00:33:47.670
Very good prices.
799
00:33:48.069 --> 00:33:51.490
Now, the Bulldogs, they're an interesting one. They've got a
800
00:33:51.609 --> 00:33:53.369
whole bunch of packs. Now, obviously, they've got a big
801
00:33:53.410 --> 00:33:54.349
stadium to play with.
802
00:33:54.650 --> 00:33:54.809
Yeah.
803
00:33:54.970 --> 00:33:57.390
So you kind of, you know, there's about 1,000 different
804
00:33:57.410 --> 00:34:00.799
membership options. Oh, gosh. Now, they don't have a member's
805
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:04.640
card by default, but you can order one. I presume
806
00:34:04.660 --> 00:34:06.779
at a cost, but you can get a member's card.
807
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:08.860
Like 50 cents or something for a member's card?
808
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:10.840
It's probably about $ 10 or $ 15 or something. I think
809
00:34:10.860 --> 00:34:12.059
we did that one year as well.
810
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:12.820
Okay.
811
00:34:14.030 --> 00:34:17.219
Now, your membership pack is customised, so you pick from
812
00:34:17.260 --> 00:34:18.219
various items.
813
00:34:18.380 --> 00:34:19.980
So similar to what we had in previous years?
814
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.340
Similar to what we had in previous years. Now, your
815
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:25.539
best comparison, about $ 690 for your platinum seats there at
816
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:29.809
a core stadium, $ 286 for GA. That's good. Now, I
817
00:34:29.809 --> 00:34:33.190
will say too, there's some packs that include parking even. Oh, really?
818
00:34:33.230 --> 00:34:35.889
So there's a whole bunch of different memberships for the dogs.
819
00:34:35.909 --> 00:34:39.289
Okay. Doesn't surprise me with Gus. He'd have it all cooking.
820
00:34:39.929 --> 00:34:42.690
Now, our arch rivals, of course, the mighty Parramatta Eels.
821
00:34:43.190 --> 00:34:46.530
They're in their 80th season. They're jumping onto that bandwagon.
822
00:34:46.570 --> 00:34:48.670
Yeah, got a new logo released on the store, yes.
823
00:34:49.190 --> 00:34:53.159
Now, your inclusion's there. It's a $ 70 credit to the
824
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:57.280
Eels store. So we've got $ 30. That's excellent. You get
825
00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:59.420
$ 70 credit to the Eels store. You also get an
826
00:34:59.699 --> 00:35:03.300
80th anniversary commemorative coin as part of your membership card
827
00:35:03.340 --> 00:35:07.039
next year. the members card not um by default but
828
00:35:07.059 --> 00:35:08.900
you can get one as part of your credit so
829
00:35:08.940 --> 00:35:10.599
as part of your 70 if you want a member
830
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:12.909
card i think it's 10 or something like that um
831
00:35:12.929 --> 00:35:14.250
you can choose to get.
832
00:35:14.130 --> 00:35:15.610
The card so other than that they just have a
833
00:35:15.610 --> 00:35:16.309
digital other than.
834
00:35:16.210 --> 00:35:19.289
That it's digital okay yeah uh now 600 for adult
835
00:35:19.309 --> 00:35:22.070
platinum so pretty much on comparison with penrith there i
836
00:35:22.090 --> 00:35:24.449
imagine it's similar i think it's 10 games because i
837
00:35:24.449 --> 00:35:26.289
do think magic round's home for them and they might
838
00:35:26.329 --> 00:35:30.820
take one somewhere else so $ 10 or $ 11. $ 2. 55 for GA.
839
00:35:30.860 --> 00:35:31.880
But you are seeded.
840
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:33.219
You are seeded. They're a con bank.
841
00:35:33.300 --> 00:35:34.239
Undercover as well.
842
00:35:34.260 --> 00:35:39.260
Undercover. Potentially in the sun on the eastern side. But yeah, $ 600, $ 2. 50
843
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:42.780
for GA. And your pack there includes $ 70 worth of
844
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:46.340
credit and that coin as well. Now, I've got to say,
845
00:35:47.590 --> 00:35:50.030
I reckon the worst, and I'm putting them lower than Penrith.
846
00:35:50.730 --> 00:35:51.349
Oh, here we go.
847
00:35:51.369 --> 00:35:56.889
Here we go. The Brisbane Broncos. Michael Maguire, Chris Colch,
848
00:35:56.949 --> 00:36:00.829
and his Brisbane Broncos. Your member pack is a $ 20
849
00:36:00.070 --> 00:36:04.269
Bronco store voucher. That's it. No member's card, no cap,
850
00:36:04.690 --> 00:36:07.630
no nothing. A $ 20 voucher for the Broncos store.
851
00:36:07.650 --> 00:36:08.159
That hurts.
852
00:36:08.659 --> 00:36:12.489
You can't even buy a wooden spoon in there for that. Now,
853
00:36:12.949 --> 00:36:16.679
wait for this, though. The diamond is $ 1, 200. So if
854
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:18.900
you want the best seat in the house there at Suncorp, $ 1, 200.
855
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:24.309
A GA is $ 440. Wow. $ 440 for a GA. Now,
856
00:36:24.349 --> 00:36:26.969
you can sit on level seven in the corner. Level
857
00:36:26.989 --> 00:36:30.349
seven corner. The level seven corner for $ 299.
858
00:36:29.909 --> 00:36:31.230
Level seven sounds very high.
859
00:36:31.630 --> 00:36:34.909
It's very, very high at Suncor. Oh, you need your binoculars.
860
00:36:34.929 --> 00:36:36.840
I should throw in some binoculars in the members' cabinet.
861
00:36:36.860 --> 00:36:39.179
But $ 1, 200 for your best seat in the house.
862
00:36:39.260 --> 00:36:41.179
Sure, you can get a cheaper ticket, whatever. But yeah,
863
00:36:41.219 --> 00:36:44.739
your comparison, if you're sitting at Penrith, is $ 1, 200. So,
864
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.179
we found one that's worse than Penrith. The Brisbane Broncos.
865
00:36:47.219 --> 00:36:51.789
They're kidding. Now, the West Tigers... They're all over the shop,
866
00:36:51.829 --> 00:36:52.469
as you can imagine.
867
00:36:52.969 --> 00:36:55.610
Because they've got multiple venues.
868
00:36:55.849 --> 00:36:58.090
You know, who knows what's going on? They do have
869
00:36:58.130 --> 00:37:00.170
a members pack, but we're not sure what it is.
870
00:37:00.809 --> 00:37:02.369
On the website, it just says members pack.
871
00:37:02.570 --> 00:37:03.170
Okay.
872
00:37:03.190 --> 00:37:05.590
So I think it might include a hat. Might include frames.
873
00:37:05.610 --> 00:37:06.710
Probably just all the regular things.
874
00:37:06.730 --> 00:37:08.489
Maybe a Benji Marshall frame photo.
875
00:37:09.139 --> 00:37:10.420
A Jerome Blue Eye hair lock.
876
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:14.980
Something like that. Farewell Jerome poster or something. I don't know,
877
00:37:15.019 --> 00:37:16.380
but they've got a members pack.
878
00:37:16.420 --> 00:37:16.719
Okay.
879
00:37:16.940 --> 00:37:19.400
Now, they don't have a members card, but it is
880
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.050
an option in the members pack or store. I had
881
00:37:22.070 --> 00:37:24.269
to find that in the terms and conditions of your membership.
882
00:37:24.389 --> 00:37:24.690
All right.
883
00:37:24.730 --> 00:37:26.829
It is an option. Okay. Good to hear. Now, a
884
00:37:26.869 --> 00:37:31.010
gold full season membership. Now, this includes games at Campbelltown, Combank.
885
00:37:31.409 --> 00:37:34.840
There's no Leichhardt for next year, but $ 795. So, that's
886
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:36.679
pretty expensive for the West Tigers.
887
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:40.320
That is for the West Tigers. And were you getting a... So,
888
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:42.010
they will give you a reserved seat of.
889
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:43.320
At Combank and at Campbelltown.
890
00:37:43.340 --> 00:37:44.800
So, you will have like... Will you have like two
891
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:45.659
membership cards?
892
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:49.460
I guess you would, yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Or a GA
893
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:52.500
is $ 295 for the Tigers. Wow.
894
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.099
That's a lot, considering a team that's had no success
895
00:37:55.179 --> 00:37:57.250
in a very long time. They're charging a lot.
896
00:37:57.289 --> 00:38:01.750
Yeah, they are. Now, the Gold Coast Titans. Now, they
897
00:38:01.789 --> 00:38:03.670
have a member pack. It's called Build Your Own. So,
898
00:38:03.690 --> 00:38:05.690
I think there's a value attached to it, and you
899
00:38:05.730 --> 00:38:08.590
pick your items. So, you might pick a hat or
900
00:38:08.650 --> 00:38:10.809
something like that, or whatever you might get, a Jared
901
00:38:10.829 --> 00:38:13.539
Hayne commemorative hat. pin from his time there something like
902
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:16.449
that but you you you build your own pack um
903
00:38:16.829 --> 00:38:19.789
there is no physical membership card by default but you
904
00:38:19.829 --> 00:38:22.090
can buy it for ten dollars so you have the
905
00:38:22.170 --> 00:38:25.429
option you have the option love it all right uh
906
00:38:25.530 --> 00:38:28.070
and it's six hundred and six dollars for titanium i
907
00:38:28.130 --> 00:38:30.929
love that which is your um your premium tickets about
908
00:38:30.949 --> 00:38:32.900
the same as uh as penrith and 336 for ga
909
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:37.230
now That might need to be a bit cheaper because
910
00:38:37.429 --> 00:38:38.610
the crowds there are pretty poor.
911
00:38:38.710 --> 00:38:40.469
But it is a very nice stadium. I was there
912
00:38:40.489 --> 00:38:41.690
this year and I liked it.
913
00:38:41.690 --> 00:38:41.769
Yeah.
914
00:38:41.889 --> 00:38:45.829
It's got a red rooster. Yeah, it does. Now, the Dragons, Nathan.
915
00:38:46.030 --> 00:38:47.929
They're last on the ladder this year.
916
00:38:47.949 --> 00:38:49.230
No wonder they're last on the ladder.
917
00:38:49.369 --> 00:38:50.590
Why? What's going on?
918
00:38:50.590 --> 00:38:55.219
They're hitting these Dragons. So, impossible to figure out what's doing.
919
00:38:55.820 --> 00:38:58.800
I tried to sign up and then it took me
920
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:03.139
to just the website of the company they use to
921
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:06.360
run the software. Like I said, yep, I'll sign up. Oh, no,
922
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:06.920
here you go.
923
00:39:07.019 --> 00:39:07.639
Off to Windows.
924
00:39:07.780 --> 00:39:12.590
Off to Software Solutions website. There's no list. They want
925
00:39:12.610 --> 00:39:15.130
you to sign up. I'm like, guys, you're the dragons.
926
00:39:15.269 --> 00:39:16.909
You've come last. You need all the help you can get.
927
00:39:16.949 --> 00:39:20.230
You should be begging people to press buy now and
928
00:39:20.269 --> 00:39:23.210
not making it difficult. So I can't tell you. I
929
00:39:23.250 --> 00:39:25.050
can't tell you how much they are. I can't tell
930
00:39:25.090 --> 00:39:27.829
you what the deal is. I tried to sign up.
931
00:39:27.929 --> 00:39:30.280
I even tried to become a member dragon You made
932
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:32.559
it so hard... Oh, wow. that even if I was
933
00:39:32.619 --> 00:39:35.460
willing to somehow shell out and buy a hopefully refundable
934
00:39:35.500 --> 00:39:39.650
membership to your club, couldn't do it. Impossible. However, I
935
00:39:39.690 --> 00:39:41.969
did find out they have a member card. Oh, beautiful.
936
00:39:42.090 --> 00:39:43.230
In the terms and conditions.
937
00:39:43.269 --> 00:39:44.590
That's all we needed to know, really.
938
00:39:44.690 --> 00:39:47.070
So, I found that out. So, there you go. There's
939
00:39:47.110 --> 00:39:52.519
your bottom nine. Now... I'm going to say, after we've
940
00:39:52.539 --> 00:39:54.619
had a look at that, knowing that the Dolphins Warriors
941
00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:57.059
still to come, the Dragons we don't know much about,
942
00:39:57.940 --> 00:40:00.880
I'm going to give the worst membership experience there to
943
00:40:00.900 --> 00:40:04.679
the Brisbane Broncos unless there's something we are missing. Right.
944
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:09.340
Because for them to only offer a $ 20 voucher, that's ridiculous.
945
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:10.760
Did you say, do they have a members card? Do
946
00:40:10.780 --> 00:40:13.130
you know Troy? No members card for Brisbane.
947
00:40:13.329 --> 00:40:14.889
Not even an option to buy one?
948
00:40:14.949 --> 00:40:18.710
So as far as we're aware, Penrith and Brisbane are
949
00:40:18.730 --> 00:40:23.119
the only two clubs... where you cannot even opt for
950
00:40:23.139 --> 00:40:26.929
the physical card. Interesting. Not an option. And I'm just
951
00:40:26.969 --> 00:40:28.590
jumping on the Brisbane website. I want to make sure
952
00:40:28.610 --> 00:40:31.690
I hadn't had too many beers or something while I was... Well,
953
00:40:31.730 --> 00:40:33.809
you know, because it does seem ridiculous, does it not?
954
00:40:34.329 --> 00:40:38.610
But yeah, your full season membership. You know, if I
955
00:40:38.659 --> 00:40:50.539
go view package here on this great website, a diamond, $ 1, 200. 00.
956
00:40:44.570 --> 00:40:49.349
So it's basically like $ 100 a game. They've got 12 games.
957
00:40:49.369 --> 00:40:51.170
Now, there are other members. You can get a behind-the-post
958
00:40:51.230 --> 00:40:56.190
membership for $ 440. That's pretty good. And there's obviously cheaper
959
00:40:56.210 --> 00:41:02.190
for concession. But yeah, unless they just haven't included the
960
00:41:02.269 --> 00:41:04.150
members pack because they just think it's obvious you get
961
00:41:04.190 --> 00:41:07.489
a members pack, but their literal thing is a $ 20
962
00:41:06.849 --> 00:41:14.500
Broncos team store online voucher. Terms and conditions apply. So
963
00:41:14.659 --> 00:41:16.610
there you go. Now, I will just point out, though,
964
00:41:16.710 --> 00:41:20.289
you do get... You mentioned about discounts and whatever. You
965
00:41:20.329 --> 00:41:22.289
do get 10% off at the Broncos store. I think
966
00:41:22.329 --> 00:41:23.829
most of the clubs have that.
967
00:41:23.849 --> 00:41:26.070
You probably get access to NRLW games as well, I'd imagine.
968
00:41:26.449 --> 00:41:28.989
You get special food and beverage offers at Suncorp that
969
00:41:29.010 --> 00:41:31.780
are emailed to you on a Tuesday. So you can
970
00:41:31.820 --> 00:41:36.139
prepare yourself there. There's some members-only lounges and there's some
971
00:41:36.179 --> 00:41:39.000
birthday offers and whatnot. But yeah, from what we can see,
972
00:41:39.019 --> 00:41:39.880
there is definitely no.
973
00:41:41.889 --> 00:41:44.670
You know, option. Also, you can get a birthday shout-out
974
00:41:44.710 --> 00:41:46.650
on the big screen, which we used to do at Penrith.
975
00:41:46.670 --> 00:41:47.630
We used to do them, yeah.
976
00:41:48.110 --> 00:41:51.989
So, I'm declaring Brisbane the worst, but, and I'm not
977
00:41:52.050 --> 00:41:55.090
saying this to, you know, prove a point or whatever,
978
00:41:55.110 --> 00:41:57.130
but I'd say Penrith's second worst. Are we?
979
00:41:57.670 --> 00:42:01.309
Yeah, I think they're not the worst, but they're pretty
980
00:42:01.349 --> 00:42:03.949
much right up there in terms of, like, don't get
981
00:42:03.969 --> 00:42:06.070
me wrong, I think the price is really good for,
982
00:42:06.869 --> 00:42:09.969
you know, getting into the new stadium and just having
983
00:42:09.989 --> 00:42:12.570
the best seat in the house, for instance, but Yeah,
984
00:42:12.630 --> 00:42:15.869
as we said earlier, the inclusions is just mud.
985
00:42:16.570 --> 00:42:16.840
Yeah.
986
00:42:16.909 --> 00:42:17.389
So bad.
987
00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:19.179
Yeah.
988
00:42:19.420 --> 00:42:22.500
I think the most disappointing thing is the lack of
989
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:25.400
inclusions in general that make you proud to be a member.
990
00:42:25.739 --> 00:42:27.760
The lack of membership card. Why can't you have.
991
00:42:27.940 --> 00:42:30.039
Other clubs are giving you the option. Is it just
992
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.420
too hard for them to give you the option?
993
00:42:32.579 --> 00:42:33.239
Yeah.
994
00:42:33.340 --> 00:42:34.079
That's what I don't understand.
995
00:42:34.099 --> 00:42:35.880
You know what I'd say as well? Why can't we just...
996
00:42:35.989 --> 00:42:37.650
Even if it doesn't have a barcode on it, just
997
00:42:37.690 --> 00:42:40.500
create it. Just have one. Figure out a way to...
998
00:42:42.420 --> 00:42:44.820
To do it, I don't know. And the food and
999
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:47.119
beverage discount is interesting because I always kind of thought
1000
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:49.860
that was an issue around venues New South Wales and whatnot.
1001
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:51.610
But there's a couple of venues New South Wales clubs
1002
00:42:51.659 --> 00:42:53.289
in there that do have the discount.
1003
00:42:53.309 --> 00:42:54.889
That are offering it. So it can't be.
1004
00:42:54.909 --> 00:42:57.849
So for Panthers to have lost that is disappointing. I
1005
00:42:57.869 --> 00:42:59.530
think what you are going to find next year is
1006
00:43:00.210 --> 00:43:04.929
Panthers really pushing for you to be in the precinct
1007
00:43:04.969 --> 00:43:09.099
and the club. pre-game, post-game, and that the game experience
1008
00:43:09.139 --> 00:43:11.050
is purely for the game. Like, I think you're going
1009
00:43:11.070 --> 00:43:13.940
to find Panthers are going to really lean into discounts
1010
00:43:13.980 --> 00:43:14.380
at the club.
1011
00:43:15.030 --> 00:43:17.369
Well, we went to an event a few weeks ago, Troy,
1012
00:43:17.409 --> 00:43:19.820
and they sort of outlined a vision for the future
1013
00:43:19.860 --> 00:43:22.440
where they would love for everyone to be at the club.
1014
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.239
And then they'll have like a march over to the stadium, remember?
1015
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:27.880
Like my other former player with a flag. And we're
1016
00:43:27.900 --> 00:43:31.159
all marching over together. And they had some grand plans,
1017
00:43:31.179 --> 00:43:31.539
didn't they?
1018
00:43:31.579 --> 00:43:33.639
Like things out in the car park. We should be
1019
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:36.159
closing Ransley. I know Ransley Street's closure has been brought
1020
00:43:36.219 --> 00:43:37.889
up many times over the years, but we should be
1021
00:43:37.929 --> 00:43:39.650
closing Ransley Street. That should just be.
1022
00:43:39.670 --> 00:43:41.190
But we need to somehow get over to McGough from
1023
00:43:41.230 --> 00:43:42.190
McGough Road as well.
1024
00:43:42.630 --> 00:43:45.469
Yeah, absolutely. You know, maybe a bridge... A footbridge.
1025
00:43:45.489 --> 00:43:47.900
That's been tossed up, hasn't it? Well, actually it has,
1026
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:49.260
believe it or not. Yeah, it got tossed up at
1027
00:43:49.300 --> 00:43:50.429
this function.
1028
00:43:50.469 --> 00:43:52.510
Let's not rule this out that one day we could
1029
00:43:52.530 --> 00:43:54.610
have an advocate for a footbridge going across a road.
1030
00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:57.280
Going over. for the 10 days a year or so
1031
00:43:57.300 --> 00:43:58.059
for all the concerts.
1032
00:43:58.099 --> 00:43:59.739
Well, you could do one underground.
1033
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:01.300
There's a bit of a tunnel. There's lots of venues.
1034
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:05.639
Nissen Stadium in Nashville, there's a famous bridge you walk
1035
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:08.239
across to concerts. It's basically like a rite of passage.
1036
00:44:08.300 --> 00:44:10.030
Even if you've got an Uber there, drop me on
1037
00:44:10.050 --> 00:44:11.889
the other side of the bridge. I want to walk
1038
00:44:11.909 --> 00:44:14.610
the bridge. Right, okay. We'll create something like that. You
1039
00:44:14.650 --> 00:44:17.750
want to paint the bridge that you walk over to
1040
00:44:17.769 --> 00:44:22.730
Penrith Stadium. But look, Look, I'm sure the people working
1041
00:44:23.050 --> 00:44:24.730
in membership, by the way, are not sitting there going,
1042
00:44:24.769 --> 00:44:26.829
how can we screw members? Let's figure it out. But
1043
00:44:26.869 --> 00:44:29.719
they're obviously given budgets. They've obviously got opinions.
1044
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:31.559
But you think they would.
1045
00:44:31.579 --> 00:44:32.260
They've got this wrong.
1046
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:33.900
They think they would have done what we did and
1047
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:36.940
canvassed the league and see what other clubs are doing.
1048
00:44:37.380 --> 00:44:39.239
Yeah, well, I hope it's not a situation of them going,
1049
00:44:39.260 --> 00:44:41.340
you know what? We're right on high.
1050
00:44:41.579 --> 00:44:41.820
Yeah.
1051
00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:45.050
Let's just take it easy, sit back, let people renew,
1052
00:44:45.690 --> 00:44:47.349
and we'll worry about it down the track. I hope not.
1053
00:44:47.780 --> 00:44:50.570
You know, I mentioned earlier about a thing in the
1054
00:44:50.619 --> 00:44:52.969
recent survey, and this is just a little gripe, a
1055
00:44:52.989 --> 00:44:53.949
little gripe, personal gripe.
1056
00:44:53.969 --> 00:44:55.869
This is the one that just got released this week.
1057
00:44:55.909 --> 00:44:57.829
Just got released, and I did the survey. I mentioned
1058
00:44:57.869 --> 00:45:01.050
before about confirmation bias, and there was a few things
1059
00:45:01.110 --> 00:45:03.409
in it that made me laugh about confirmation bias. They're
1060
00:45:03.489 --> 00:45:05.500
asking about who you think of when you think of
1061
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:08.579
a lawyer, and obviously they've chosen their sponsors as the thing.
1062
00:45:09.179 --> 00:45:11.039
I put other and put one of our great advertisers,
1063
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:15.340
Bateman Battersby Complete Legal, who are a great supporter of us.
1064
00:45:16.710 --> 00:45:19.210
But it got to a question and it said, where
1065
00:45:19.250 --> 00:45:23.969
do you get your Panthers news from? Okay. And the
1066
00:45:24.530 --> 00:45:27.309
first three options were like, I think Panthers related things,
1067
00:45:27.369 --> 00:45:33.599
Panthers website, Panthers EDMs, whatever, Panthers socials. Then they had radio, TV.
1068
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:37.059
And I'm pretty sure that's where we ended. And what
1069
00:45:37.099 --> 00:45:41.530
I found interesting about that is that You exist in
1070
00:45:41.570 --> 00:45:45.630
an area and in an ecosystem where you have a
1071
00:45:45.690 --> 00:45:49.190
newspaper and a news service, we may be it, that
1072
00:45:49.230 --> 00:45:53.969
runs 16 pages of content about you every week. And
1073
00:45:54.030 --> 00:45:55.800
I reckon there's a good chance that a lot of
1074
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:57.579
people get their Panthers news from there.
1075
00:45:57.800 --> 00:45:58.239
Yeah.
1076
00:45:58.380 --> 00:46:01.300
And to not include that, I thought was very bizarre. Wow.
1077
00:46:01.420 --> 00:46:03.739
And was there another option? I don't think there was
1078
00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:05.300
another option. Where you could type where you get your
1079
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:07.059
news from? I wanted to do that. I wanted to go, oh,
1080
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:08.320
my Western weekend. I don't think I could.
1081
00:46:09.530 --> 00:46:10.389
That's shocking.
1082
00:46:10.429 --> 00:46:14.690
I found that really interesting. Wow. I found that really interesting. So,
1083
00:46:14.710 --> 00:46:14.989
it wasn't even.
1084
00:46:15.010 --> 00:46:17.409
Was it online? Like, even people that got there.
1085
00:46:17.449 --> 00:46:19.050
No, I think it was just the Panthers website.
1086
00:46:19.070 --> 00:46:20.409
Just the Panthers website.
1087
00:46:20.570 --> 00:46:22.480
Yeah, and look, I'm not, you know, creating a tizzy
1088
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:24.300
about it, but I just think it's very bizarre when you're...
1089
00:46:24.460 --> 00:46:28.739
If you are seeking legitimate answers, I understand you would probably,
1090
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:30.800
in a lot of areas, you probably wouldn't say newspaper
1091
00:46:30.980 --> 00:46:34.329
because it doesn't exist. But we are a newspaper and
1092
00:46:34.369 --> 00:46:36.789
an online news service that covers the Panthers and Rugby
1093
00:46:36.849 --> 00:46:37.889
League extensively.
1094
00:46:37.929 --> 00:46:38.630
More than anyone.
1095
00:46:38.769 --> 00:46:41.409
More than anyone. So we're an independent voice as well.
1096
00:46:41.429 --> 00:46:43.510
And if you're going to include radio and TV, so
1097
00:46:43.530 --> 00:46:46.090
you're basically going to include Danny Weidler in your options
1098
00:46:46.730 --> 00:46:48.349
as to where you're getting your Panthers news. And you'd
1099
00:46:48.449 --> 00:46:51.349
think you would include a local media outlet, who I'll
1100
00:46:51.409 --> 00:46:54.530
just quietly say is a sponsor as well. But anyway.
1101
00:46:54.550 --> 00:46:57.449
Do you think this could backfire on us next year, Troy?
1102
00:46:57.469 --> 00:46:59.789
What if they get their survey results back and we
1103
00:46:59.809 --> 00:47:02.340
try and get interviews at the club or something? And
1104
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:04.239
I say, well... We don't have to give you interviews
1105
00:47:04.260 --> 00:47:07.139
because according to our membership survey, no one said they
1106
00:47:07.300 --> 00:47:08.840
get their news from the newspaper.
1107
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:11.360
I think you're priming me up for a battle there,
1108
00:47:11.380 --> 00:47:13.019
let me tell you. You just know it's coming.
1109
00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:17.010
New media manager, you know, about to put their feet
1110
00:47:17.050 --> 00:47:18.929
under the desk. Who knows what it's going to be like.
1111
00:47:19.010 --> 00:47:22.070
Guys, I get it, right? Sometimes you want to create
1112
00:47:22.130 --> 00:47:24.590
a survey because you want the answers. We're doing a
1113
00:47:24.630 --> 00:47:27.170
readership survey. We do, we have one. At the moment, right,
1114
00:47:27.250 --> 00:47:29.730
I'm seeing the answers come in and at the moment
1115
00:47:29.769 --> 00:47:33.889
it's print only, so... a bit of inside baseball here.
1116
00:47:33.949 --> 00:47:36.269
Many years ago, we'd run this survey and we'd also
1117
00:47:36.309 --> 00:47:38.730
run it online and it got hijacked by Western Sydney
1118
00:47:38.750 --> 00:47:42.489
Wanderers fans one year online who said, what's the main
1119
00:47:42.550 --> 00:47:45.380
sport you read The Weekender for? And they all came
1120
00:47:45.429 --> 00:47:46.110
on and put the A-league.
1121
00:47:46.139 --> 00:47:47.010
Oh, of course they did.
1122
00:47:47.050 --> 00:47:48.570
So what we do now is we have this print
1123
00:47:48.610 --> 00:47:52.059
exclusive for about sort of six weeks. So we're only
1124
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:54.699
getting our print audience right now and then we'll throw
1125
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:59.579
the digital audience in there. But, you know, that's like
1126
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:01.989
me sort of, You know, there's a question in there,
1127
00:48:02.010 --> 00:48:03.829
and I'm being honest, there's a question in there that says,
1128
00:48:04.469 --> 00:48:07.130
have you ever utilised a service or attended an event
1129
00:48:07.150 --> 00:48:08.929
for seeing it in the weekender?
1130
00:48:08.949 --> 00:48:09.090
Yeah.
1131
00:48:09.829 --> 00:48:11.469
Now, we know most people are going to press yes
1132
00:48:11.510 --> 00:48:13.849
to that, because when it comes to us going to advertisers,
1133
00:48:13.929 --> 00:48:16.369
how good is that stat? Yeah. To be able to say, oh,
1134
00:48:16.369 --> 00:48:18.309
92% of people say if they've seen it in the weekender,
1135
00:48:18.329 --> 00:48:21.949
they've acted. Yeah. But it's a confirmation by a stat.
1136
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:22.280
Yeah.
1137
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:24.539
You know, that's all it is. And a lot of
1138
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:26.739
those questions were that. And I'm just a bit disappointed
1139
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:30.010
in that, because I'm like, come on, guys, like... Get
1140
00:48:30.170 --> 00:48:32.869
legitimate answers. Get legitimate answers from your fan base.
1141
00:48:33.210 --> 00:48:36.489
And who's creating these? You'd love to know out there
1142
00:48:36.510 --> 00:48:40.550
in Pantherland who's creating these surveys because there's people there
1143
00:48:40.590 --> 00:48:42.960
that I just don't think are Penrith people.
1144
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:47.699
Well, I think a disconnect has emerged. Yes. And I'm
1145
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:51.519
intrigued as to how that's happened. But I do think
1146
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:53.579
a disconnect has emerged where there's a little bit of
1147
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:56.769
going through the motions, whether it's come because of success,
1148
00:48:56.989 --> 00:48:59.789
whether it's, you know, postcode. But I feel like We
1149
00:48:59.829 --> 00:49:01.969
went through that COVID period where there was this love
1150
00:49:02.050 --> 00:49:05.329
for members beyond belief because members were willing, put it
1151
00:49:05.349 --> 00:49:07.780
this way, members were willing to basically say, I'll forego
1152
00:49:07.820 --> 00:49:08.400
my membership.
1153
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:09.760
Yeah, we both did that.
1154
00:49:10.460 --> 00:49:13.380
I reckon if you did that today, despite the success,
1155
00:49:13.500 --> 00:49:15.889
less people would do it. I just think that there's
1156
00:49:17.050 --> 00:49:18.949
less love in the air at the moment. And this
1157
00:49:19.010 --> 00:49:24.019
isn't about, We love the Panthers. Absolutely couldn't be more
1158
00:49:24.059 --> 00:49:27.400
passionate about the Panthers. But when you become passionate about something,
1159
00:49:27.420 --> 00:49:28.780
that's when you start to pick up on this kind
1160
00:49:28.820 --> 00:49:30.980
of stuff, when stuff is a little bit disappointing.
1161
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:31.420
Yeah.
1162
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:32.699
No, fair point.
1163
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:35.900
I did answer Moses Leota, though, for my favourite player. Oh,
1164
00:49:35.940 --> 00:49:37.579
you put him as your favourite player.
1165
00:49:37.619 --> 00:49:40.190
I thought that you would have picked Nathan Cleary based
1166
00:49:40.230 --> 00:49:43.130
on our conversation last week when you said Members Player
1167
00:49:43.150 --> 00:49:45.469
of the Year. It always should be Nathan Cleary when
1168
00:49:45.650 --> 00:49:47.199
you gave poor Thomas Jenkins a.
1169
00:49:47.230 --> 00:49:50.079
I just suggested that Thomas Jenkins is the Members Player
1170
00:49:50.099 --> 00:49:55.449
of the Year. Great season. Historic season. Historic season.
1171
00:49:55.449 --> 00:49:57.090
30 tries, thank you very much.
1172
00:49:57.150 --> 00:49:59.789
But he doesn't score those tries without what happens inside.
1173
00:49:59.809 --> 00:50:01.570
Give us some individual efforts there.
1174
00:50:01.780 --> 00:50:04.820
You know. I love you, Milk. I love Milk. Milk,
1175
00:50:04.860 --> 00:50:06.000
you're on the membership team.
1176
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:07.639
He's a kangaroo shadow player.
1177
00:50:07.860 --> 00:50:10.849
Yeah. I don't even know if he's training with the team. Well,
1178
00:50:10.869 --> 00:50:12.829
I picked Moses as my favourite player. Fair enough.
1179
00:50:12.869 --> 00:50:14.929
He could be his last year. We don't know. None
1180
00:50:14.949 --> 00:50:15.889
of them have re-signed yet.
1181
00:50:16.130 --> 00:50:20.679
No. Hopefully no one in Penrith is making the switch,
1182
00:50:20.780 --> 00:50:23.199
but hopefully you are if you are looking for a car.
1183
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:25.219
And Penrith City Automotive is the place to do that
1184
00:50:25.260 --> 00:50:27.659
because with fuel prices on the rise, now could be
1185
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:29.380
the perfect time to make the switch to a hybrid
1186
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:32.280
or electric vehicle. I actually filled up this morning... Tell
1187
00:50:32.300 --> 00:50:33.760
you what, I almost had to get a bank loan.
1188
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:37.420
At Penrith City Automotive, you'll find a great range of
1189
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:40.739
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1190
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:43.860
including Toyota, Kia, Honda, and BYD. Whether you are looking
1191
00:50:43.900 --> 00:50:45.900
to save fuel with a hybrid or you're ready to
1192
00:50:45.940 --> 00:50:48.039
go fully electric, there are plenty of options to suit
1193
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:51.880
different lifestyles and budgets. And with some deals currently available,
1194
00:50:51.900 --> 00:50:53.940
there's never been a better time to see what's on offer.
1195
00:50:53.960 --> 00:51:00.809
So save fuel, switch today, go see Penrith City Automotive. Now, Nathan. How,
1196
00:51:00.969 --> 00:51:02.630
last week you put out a tweet that a lot
1197
00:51:02.650 --> 00:51:06.300
of people jumped on board. Yes. News.com and the Daily Mail.
1198
00:51:06.340 --> 00:51:07.719
I became very famous.
1199
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.880
And you put out a tweet that Mary Fowler had come,
1200
00:51:11.179 --> 00:51:12.179
returned to Penrith.
1201
00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:13.099
He was exclusive.
1202
00:51:13.139 --> 00:51:15.940
To be with Nathan Cleary. Now, how relieved were you
1203
00:51:16.500 --> 00:51:18.530
when you actually saw the post that she was here?
1204
00:51:18.550 --> 00:51:20.670
Because just a little bit of you must have been like, jeez,
1205
00:51:20.690 --> 00:51:21.889
I hope she's here. Yeah, yeah.
1206
00:51:21.909 --> 00:51:25.230
No, it was, I think it was last Tuesday night.
1207
00:51:25.809 --> 00:51:28.630
Yeah. Obviously, Murph Carr, I met her.
1208
00:51:29.010 --> 00:51:31.190
Earlier in the day, just to go back, earlier in
1209
00:51:31.210 --> 00:51:35.170
the day, Matilda's put out a statement saying that Mary
1210
00:51:35.210 --> 00:51:38.449
Fowler wouldn't be participating in the upcoming Matilda's Games because
1211
00:51:39.070 --> 00:51:43.250
of personal circumstances, and that's been agreed upon by Manchester
1212
00:51:43.269 --> 00:51:45.880
City and obviously Matilda's. We weren't sure what those personal
1213
00:51:45.889 --> 00:51:49.199
circumstances were, but I sort of insinuated in a tweet
1214
00:51:49.260 --> 00:51:53.760
that perhaps a Penrith trip to Penrith might be on
1215
00:51:53.780 --> 00:51:56.670
the cards, you know. Uh, obviously with everything that's happening
1216
00:51:56.690 --> 00:51:59.050
with Nathan Cleary lately, he can't walk the poor bugger.
1217
00:51:59.070 --> 00:52:02.719
He's in a wheelchair, pretty devastating double injury that he's
1218
00:52:02.739 --> 00:52:04.900
suffering at the moment. You would think he would want
1219
00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:07.099
as many loved ones around him as he, as he can.
1220
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:09.099
So that was, I put that out there in the
1221
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:11.960
universe without sort of had any confirmation. And then later
1222
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:14.769
on that night at the Murph Cartwright medal, uh, our
1223
00:52:14.889 --> 00:52:18.760
wonderful chairman peter graham um does a speech and basically
1224
00:52:18.860 --> 00:52:22.059
he opens the speech with some breaking news essentially.
1225
00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:23.920
Yeah we thought nathan cleary resigned.
1226
00:52:23.420 --> 00:52:24.539
We did we thought there was going to be some
1227
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:26.500
big news here and it was like this is world
1228
00:52:26.579 --> 00:52:29.019
shattering news and he said um you know we've got
1229
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:31.099
uh two very special people who are watching at home
1230
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:34.059
tonight the murph cartwright medal and uh nathan cleary and
1231
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:38.079
mary fowler and i'm like oh that's interesting like that
1232
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:40.619
just makes sense, you know, like, of course. And then
1233
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:43.119
I'm thinking, well, she's obviously not watching from Manchester city
1234
00:52:43.139 --> 00:52:45.039
and he's watching from Penrith and they have like a,
1235
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:47.960
a zoom going on that they're, they're, they're watching it together.
1236
00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:51.829
So I put a tweet out, uh, confirming said confirmed Mary,
1237
00:52:52.050 --> 00:52:55.010
Mary Fowler back in Australia, um, to be with her
1238
00:52:55.050 --> 00:52:57.889
injured partner, Nathan Cleary. And that went bonkers. Like that
1239
00:52:57.929 --> 00:53:01.110
went all around the world. It got retweeted, shared everywhere.
1240
00:53:01.130 --> 00:53:04.139
Then the next morning I'm getting texts and, and messages
1241
00:53:04.219 --> 00:53:07.429
from my friends who are reading Mary Fowler stories out
1242
00:53:07.469 --> 00:53:09.170
there in the universe. I didn't realize how many people
1243
00:53:09.210 --> 00:53:12.389
clicked on Mary Fowler stories, and they're seeing my name everywhere.
1244
00:53:12.829 --> 00:53:17.349
So as you said, Daily Mail, news.com.au, Yahoo 7, Channel 7,
1245
00:53:17.349 --> 00:53:21.010
and they're all saying this guy in Penrith knows. He's
1246
00:53:21.050 --> 00:53:24.570
confirmed that Mary Fowler's back in Australia. So I'm like, God,
1247
00:53:24.610 --> 00:53:26.469
this is pretty cool, you know, but also in the
1248
00:53:26.489 --> 00:53:28.389
back of my mind, I'm thinking far out.
1249
00:53:28.429 --> 00:53:30.239
What if I've completely stuffed this up?
1250
00:53:31.050 --> 00:53:32.670
So then what was it? A few days later, I
1251
00:53:32.710 --> 00:53:36.150
think it was the Saturday. I was at the Bob
1252
00:53:36.170 --> 00:53:39.110
Candela's medal, which is the Penrith referees night of nights.
1253
00:53:39.230 --> 00:53:40.130
One of the great events.
1254
00:53:40.170 --> 00:53:42.429
One of my favorite events, actually, it's actually pretty good.
1255
00:53:42.869 --> 00:53:45.670
And I'm just, I don't know, they're reading out awards
1256
00:53:45.730 --> 00:53:47.369
and I'm probably on my phone as well at the
1257
00:53:47.409 --> 00:53:51.880
same time, just scrolling through Instagram and boom, this, this
1258
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:55.179
picture comes up of Mary Fowler and Nathan Cleary sitting
1259
00:53:55.219 --> 00:53:59.380
together in, in the backyard with signs for Liam Henry,
1260
00:53:59.420 --> 00:54:01.719
who was doing a, charity event that day at the
1261
00:54:01.739 --> 00:54:05.530
nepean river uh and that was just the instant sigh
1262
00:54:05.550 --> 00:54:07.550
of relief i had when i saw that drawing and
1263
00:54:07.590 --> 00:54:09.510
then i i sent it to all you boys saying
1264
00:54:09.570 --> 00:54:11.250
i told you she was back and and then i
1265
00:54:11.289 --> 00:54:14.199
also put it on twitter and um that that did
1266
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:17.139
well but yeah it was uh it was a good feeling.
1267
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:19.659
Yeah all right well then yep she's been back and
1268
00:54:19.699 --> 00:54:22.340
nathan's uh Recovering away. Now, of course, we've had more
1269
00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:25.260
Nathan Cleary stories this week about his future. Yeah, what
1270
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:27.159
did you make of those? Because that was a little bit...
1271
00:54:27.019 --> 00:54:29.639
I'm not worried about it. I think, look, to Panthers
1272
00:54:29.659 --> 00:54:32.920
fans out there, I'm very confident the club have control
1273
00:54:33.239 --> 00:54:34.340
of this situation.
1274
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:37.219
So what the update is, Nathan Cleary's management have given
1275
00:54:37.260 --> 00:54:38.889
Panthers the amount that he wants.
1276
00:54:38.929 --> 00:54:39.179
Apparently.
1277
00:54:39.869 --> 00:54:41.369
That's what the word is.
1278
00:54:41.449 --> 00:54:44.019
Really? What, this hasn't happened until now? Please.
1279
00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:46.940
But he doesn't want to sign yet because he wants
1280
00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:49.340
to recover. That's correct. So that's probably going to take
1281
00:54:49.380 --> 00:54:52.679
him into November 1, which allows other clubs to send
1282
00:54:52.699 --> 00:54:53.539
their best offers in.
1283
00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:54.639
Sure. Okay.
1284
00:54:54.659 --> 00:54:55.480
You're not nervous at all?
1285
00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:55.699
No.
1286
00:54:56.599 --> 00:54:56.760
No.
1287
00:54:57.469 --> 00:55:00.750
Under control. I believe under control. I'll be disappointed if
1288
00:55:00.769 --> 00:55:04.489
it's not under control, but I think we're under control. So, anyway.
1289
00:55:04.929 --> 00:55:07.349
I don't... Yeah, I think it's all good as well.
1290
00:55:08.510 --> 00:55:11.309
This Mary Fowler thing, obviously they love each other very much.
1291
00:55:11.349 --> 00:55:13.349
You can tell they're very open about it now. They
1292
00:55:13.389 --> 00:55:15.980
used to hide it. Now they're very open on both
1293
00:55:16.019 --> 00:55:19.300
of their Instagrams. You'd think they'd want to be together
1294
00:55:19.340 --> 00:55:20.079
at some point, right?
1295
00:55:20.099 --> 00:55:21.679
Of course. I just don't think it's going to be
1296
00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:25.250
in this next contract period. I think we'll get a
1297
00:55:25.269 --> 00:55:27.889
two or three year deal. And then I'd be worried
1298
00:55:27.909 --> 00:55:29.780
about what happens at the end of that two or
1299
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:30.960
three deal. But we've got a long way to go.
1300
00:55:31.340 --> 00:55:31.480
Yeah.
1301
00:55:31.500 --> 00:55:32.619
A long way to go to find out what happens
1302
00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:33.199
for Mary as well.
1303
00:55:33.239 --> 00:55:35.199
Because him going to P & G makes no sense
1304
00:55:35.260 --> 00:55:38.239
in terms of that doesn't make her any closer to him.
1305
00:55:38.420 --> 00:55:38.579
No.
1306
00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:39.699
And I don't believe, like.
1307
00:55:40.340 --> 00:55:42.510
And going to the Super League to end the prime
1308
00:55:42.530 --> 00:55:44.250
of your career and you have all these other records
1309
00:55:44.269 --> 00:55:44.429
to break.
1310
00:55:44.449 --> 00:55:46.030
And the Super League's a debacle at the moment. An
1311
00:55:46.070 --> 00:55:48.110
absolute debacle. It's too good for the Super League.
1312
00:55:48.190 --> 00:55:50.090
Far too good. Look, Daily Cherries is going there at
1313
00:55:50.090 --> 00:55:52.590
38 years old. That's when you should be going there.
1314
00:55:52.610 --> 00:55:52.690
Yeah.
1315
00:55:53.449 --> 00:55:56.079
If Nathan goes to the Super League for love, and
1316
00:55:56.119 --> 00:55:58.300
don't get me wrong, love is very powerful, I think
1317
00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:01.800
he'd regret it. Don't get me wrong. I know you're
1318
00:56:01.820 --> 00:56:04.960
in your 20s. You want to be in your relationship,
1319
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:07.599
and you want it to be settled. But I think
1320
00:56:07.659 --> 00:56:10.070
you've got 50 years to be together. You've got five
1321
00:56:10.110 --> 00:56:13.469
or six more years to be the best of the
1322
00:56:13.530 --> 00:56:15.789
best in the sport that you play. You do it.
1323
00:56:16.489 --> 00:56:18.590
But anyway, don't worry about it. Under control.
1324
00:56:18.610 --> 00:56:18.909
Under control.
1325
00:56:18.929 --> 00:56:22.179
I'm confident. I'm confident. Just quickly, the World Cup, just
1326
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:24.739
to run through the games this weekend. We'll get your tips, Nathan,
1327
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:27.340
for this weekend. My tips? Your tips. So it all
1328
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:30.179
starts Thursday night at Allianz Stadium, live on the Seven
1329
00:56:30.219 --> 00:56:31.340
Network of all places.
1330
00:56:32.179 --> 00:56:33.360
They love the World Cup, the Seven Network.
1331
00:56:33.389 --> 00:56:35.800
Australia take on New Zealand, 8.05pm. Who do you tip
1332
00:56:35.860 --> 00:56:36.260
in that one?
1333
00:56:37.010 --> 00:56:39.550
I'll have to go Australia. I know everyone's loving New
1334
00:56:39.590 --> 00:56:41.909
Zealand at the moment and what team they've put together.
1335
00:56:42.010 --> 00:56:44.489
I just think, yes, it is a bloody good team,
1336
00:56:44.530 --> 00:56:47.340
but Australia for me, We also have a very good
1337
00:56:47.380 --> 00:56:50.199
team and I think Australia will win well.
1338
00:56:50.929 --> 00:56:56.489
Friday, 5.45pm at Combank Stadium. So I'm assuming that this one...
1339
00:56:56.409 --> 00:56:58.710
Have you seen the odds for this game? is on
1340
00:56:58.869 --> 00:57:01.309
seven plus because surely we're not skipping the news.
1341
00:57:01.329 --> 00:57:03.590
It'll be on seven mate or something, I imagine.
1342
00:57:03.610 --> 00:57:05.820
But yes, Samoa, a dollar. A dollar?
1343
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:06.920
You can't even bet.
1344
00:57:07.059 --> 00:57:08.460
You don't even get... You don't get anything. You just
1345
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:12.190
get your money back. France at $ 34, so Samoa and France.
1346
00:57:12.309 --> 00:57:15.110
I'm going to go Samoa by a big margin.
1347
00:57:15.510 --> 00:57:20.349
Saturday, 3.25pm at the Santos National Football Stadium in Port Moresby.
1348
00:57:20.389 --> 00:57:24.130
It's the Papua New Guinea Kumuls up against the Lebanon Cedars.
1349
00:57:25.150 --> 00:57:29.969
The Cedars, yeah. Look, both teams are scarce of NRL players,
1350
00:57:30.090 --> 00:57:32.679
but being that it's at home in Port Moresby, I'm
1351
00:57:32.699 --> 00:57:34.030
going to have to go the Kumuls, I think.
1352
00:57:34.349 --> 00:57:36.789
All right, expecting a big crowd at HBF Park in
1353
00:57:36.849 --> 00:57:40.789
Perth on Saturday night for England and Tonga. That's a
1354
00:57:40.809 --> 00:57:44.820
good one. The closest games of the weekend. Who are
1355
00:57:44.860 --> 00:57:45.519
you going for here?
1356
00:57:45.699 --> 00:57:47.599
Look, I'm going to go Tonga. I just think the
1357
00:57:47.900 --> 00:57:52.019
NRL experience, them being in Australia, obviously the England team
1358
00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:53.579
has a fair bit of NRL experience too. Let me
1359
00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:56.679
just read their back line. AJ Brimson, Dom Young, Hugo Savala,
1360
00:57:56.699 --> 00:57:59.619
Herbie Farnworth. And then you've got George Williams, you know,
1361
00:57:59.659 --> 00:58:03.400
in that 5'8 position. That's a well-known back line. But
1362
00:58:03.420 --> 00:58:07.079
I think Tonga, that team's bloody good as well. And
1363
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:08.969
I just think they will be too good for England.
1364
00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:13.010
All right. And Sunday afternoon, 4.05pm at McDonald Jones Stadium
1365
00:58:13.050 --> 00:58:18.650
in Newcastle, it's Fiji up against the Cook Islands. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1366
00:58:18.670 --> 00:58:22.050
Look again, the Cook Islands, a bunch of part-timers in there.
1367
00:58:22.070 --> 00:58:24.469
There's probably only a handful of NRL players. So I'm
1368
00:58:24.489 --> 00:58:27.210
going to have to go with Fiji. While it's not,
1369
00:58:27.530 --> 00:58:30.809
Fiji's strongest ever team by any means. It's probably not
1370
00:58:30.829 --> 00:58:32.510
going to do much in this World Cup. I think
1371
00:58:32.590 --> 00:58:34.639
Fiji just has a little bit more experience.
1372
00:58:34.860 --> 00:58:36.840
All right, switching over to the women's. I know you've
1373
00:58:36.860 --> 00:58:40.739
had a look at the form guide here. Friday night, 8.05pm,
1374
00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:46.440
Combank Stadium, Australia up against Samoa Australia. Look at those odds.
1375
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:47.440
$ 1.
1376
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:48.000
01. The Jilaroos.
1377
00:58:49.019 --> 00:58:52.960
That could be 50-60, I think, Troy, to the Jilaroos.
1378
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:56.639
Down the Jilaroos there. Saturday, 1.15pm at the Santos National
1379
00:58:56.659 --> 00:58:59.320
Football Stadium in Port Moresy. The Orchids, Papua New Guinea
1380
00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:00.239
up against France.
1381
00:59:00.420 --> 00:59:03.360
Yeah, PNG, home side, definitely. I think that could be
1382
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:04.610
also a big score as well.
1383
00:59:04.889 --> 00:59:07.369
All right, part of the doubleheader at HPF Park in
1384
00:59:07.409 --> 00:59:12.329
Perth is England and Wales. Saturday... 5.35pm. Again, England are
1385
00:59:12.349 --> 00:59:14.849
a dollar. Yeah. So you could do a multi. Pretty obvious.
1386
00:59:15.690 --> 00:59:18.449
England and the other mob. Was it Samoa? Samoa and
1387
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:23.079
you get nothing. Yeah. I've never seen. No, I've never
1388
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:23.380
seen a dollar.
1389
00:59:23.420 --> 00:59:26.239
I've never seen it in my life. England, definitely.
1390
00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:30.389
Easily. And on Sunday afternoon at McDonald Jones Stadium, a 1.50
1391
00:59:30.389 --> 00:59:32.980
start for the Kiwi Ferns up against Fiji.
1392
00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:35.500
Yeah, and look, they're a dollar one, the Kiwi Ferns,
1393
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.800
and Fiji are $ 19. So I'm suggesting those odds are
1394
00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:42.170
just monumental upsets on the cards if Fiji were to win. Absolutely.
1395
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:43.800
Kiwi ferns, for sure.
1396
00:59:44.059 --> 00:59:45.480
All right. Now, we've got no action yet in the
1397
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:47.809
Wheelchair World Cup. That's a couple of weeks away.
1398
00:59:47.989 --> 00:59:51.409
Yeah, they're playing some games at Wynn Entertainment Stadium, Troy.
1399
00:59:51.750 --> 00:59:53.710
I was actually visited there the other day to watch
1400
00:59:53.730 --> 00:59:57.349
a NBL game of Illawarra Hawks and the Tasmanian Jackjumpers.
1401
00:59:57.849 --> 00:59:59.380
In fact, I think every game might be there.
1402
01:00:00.090 --> 01:00:02.570
Yeah, they were promoting it a fair bit, so it
1403
01:00:02.630 --> 01:00:05.489
makes sense. Good little venue, that one.
1404
01:00:05.570 --> 01:00:08.170
All right, well, we'll get your tips of that probably
1405
01:00:08.190 --> 01:00:09.190
next week or the week after.
1406
01:00:09.250 --> 01:00:10.809
Is Nathan Pentecost playing in that one?
1407
01:00:10.829 --> 01:00:14.019
I don't believe he is, Nathan Pentecost. But, yeah, been
1408
01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:16.699
a great wheelchair athlete for many years across multiple sports,
1409
01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:20.619
Nathan Pentecost. But I don't believe he's there this year,
1410
01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:22.159
but I'm sure he'll be cheering on the Aussies.
1411
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:22.880
Yes, for sure.
1412
01:00:22.900 --> 01:00:27.659
They're actually playing on the 31st on Halloween against New Zealand. Scary.
1413
01:00:28.510 --> 01:00:30.269
All right. Well, look, that is it. We've done our
1414
01:00:30.309 --> 01:00:35.130
membership rant. We've come up with, we think the Broncos
1415
01:00:35.170 --> 01:00:37.550
have the worst membership offering in the NRL and ironically
1416
01:00:37.590 --> 01:00:38.969
the best. Who do you think the best was?
1417
01:00:38.989 --> 01:00:40.289
We didn't say who the best was. I reckon Roosters
1418
01:00:40.329 --> 01:00:41.130
was pretty damn good.
1419
01:00:41.250 --> 01:00:43.670
Look, I like the Roosters. The Raiders was pretty good. Yeah. Like,
1420
01:00:43.710 --> 01:00:46.369
you know, $ 470 for adult premium and you get either
1421
01:00:46.389 --> 01:00:48.889
a cup or a cap. Yeah. You bump a stick,
1422
01:00:48.929 --> 01:00:51.900
your member card, your keyboard, Matt. Tempest enough food and
1423
01:00:51.940 --> 01:00:55.449
drink All of that So that was pretty good But
1424
01:00:55.469 --> 01:00:57.449
yeah the Roosters Premieres.
1425
01:00:57.289 --> 01:00:59.489
Premieres Beautiful stadium.
1426
01:00:59.329 --> 01:01:01.250
Uncle Nick likes to make money.
1427
01:01:01.030 --> 01:01:03.369
Free public transport Yeah.
1428
01:01:03.230 --> 01:01:05.309
I mean see You've got to do You've got to
1429
01:01:05.329 --> 01:01:06.809
do free public transport When you're at a venue like
1430
01:01:06.829 --> 01:01:09.230
that Because you know We keep building stadiums With no.
1431
01:01:09.190 --> 01:01:12.349
Proper Why can't we do it? Now that we're Now
1432
01:01:12.369 --> 01:01:14.219
that we're a government Now that we're a government stadium
1433
01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:14.670
You want to get on.
1434
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:18.000
The west bus From Thornton to Penrith Stadium A lot.
1435
01:01:17.900 --> 01:01:21.820
Of our fans aren't Living in Penrith Yeah Maybe we've
1436
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:23.880
picked up a few in Parramatta over the last two years.
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What about those guys might want to come out and
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01:01:25.900 --> 01:01:29.019
they've got to tap their Opal card at Parramatta Station
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01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:29.769
and pay $ 10, $ 15.
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01:01:29.659 --> 01:01:31.619
We'll find out. You can get onto that for next week.
1441
01:01:32.300 --> 01:01:34.369
Who am I asking at Panthers?
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01:01:35.030 --> 01:01:37.909
Well, yeah, they don't have a media manager at the moment, Panthers.
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01:01:37.969 --> 01:01:39.449
Is Darren Mickleth going to write back to me?
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01:01:39.530 --> 01:01:41.530
Yeah, we'll find out. I'm sure the answer is no.
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01:01:41.650 --> 01:01:44.590
I'm sure the answer is no. There's no free public transport.
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01:01:44.630 --> 01:01:47.199
It's a venue, New South Wales Stadium. It's a government stadium.
1447
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:49.860
Now, actually, we did get an email from Jill during
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01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:55.309
the week. because Jill mentioned about the whole membership situation.
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01:01:55.889 --> 01:01:57.929
She also said, hey, guys, don't forget to mention that
1450
01:01:57.969 --> 01:02:01.010
not only have they reduced what we believe we get included,
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01:02:01.030 --> 01:02:04.679
but they've dumped that away bus for members. Oh, yeah.
1452
01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:07.519
We know that mid-year that that got announced, but there
1453
01:02:07.579 --> 01:02:10.380
is no more that tradition of jumping on the supporter bus.
1454
01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:12.280
So if you want to go to Ocean Protect Stadium
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01:02:12.340 --> 01:02:13.219
and get the bus there.
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01:02:13.539 --> 01:02:16.349
It's gone. So you make your own way there. I
1457
01:02:16.389 --> 01:02:18.530
guess we couldn't make it work economically. I still think
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01:02:18.550 --> 01:02:21.349
they were reasonably popular. And I mean, you don't have
1459
01:02:21.369 --> 01:02:23.829
to get a big coach, do you? If it wasn't full.
1460
01:02:23.869 --> 01:02:25.250
You could just get one bus.
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01:02:25.309 --> 01:02:26.090
It was pretty full.
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01:02:26.349 --> 01:02:27.800
Maybe 30 bucks if you have to.
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01:02:28.500 --> 01:02:30.860
Look, I don't know how much it would have cost them.
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01:02:30.900 --> 01:02:32.820
I don't know, but whatever. But surely you're making the
1465
01:02:32.900 --> 01:02:36.579
cash back. Like it wasn't cheap. It wasn't cheap. Do
1466
01:02:36.619 --> 01:02:38.739
some country deals or something.
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01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:40.170
We'll put a little sign up.
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01:02:40.610 --> 01:02:43.289
But yeah, we want to make it easy for fans.
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01:02:43.329 --> 01:02:44.210
We're making it harder.
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01:02:44.389 --> 01:02:44.730
We are.
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01:02:44.750 --> 01:02:45.710
We're making it harder.
1472
01:02:45.730 --> 01:02:46.590
We're getting less.
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01:02:46.690 --> 01:02:49.349
And you've got to remember that Unfortunately, Sydney is not
1474
01:02:49.710 --> 01:02:52.719
a public transport-friendly city in a lot of cases. Like,
1475
01:02:53.070 --> 01:02:55.340
half the time, there's truck work on the weekends and
1476
01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:56.619
you can't catch a train.
1477
01:02:56.639 --> 01:02:58.860
Like, how would you get to Brookvale Oval if you
1478
01:02:58.900 --> 01:02:59.579
didn't have a car, for instance?
1479
01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:01.239
Well, yeah, so you're catching, what, a train to the
1480
01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:02.059
city and then a bus.
1481
01:03:02.559 --> 01:03:03.989
Yeah, a bus or maybe a ferry.
1482
01:03:04.219 --> 01:03:06.190
Yeah, so it's probably an hour and a half. Why
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01:03:06.230 --> 01:03:07.849
wouldn't you just get on the bus and be part
1484
01:03:07.889 --> 01:03:09.389
of the community?
1485
01:03:09.409 --> 01:03:10.630
The Panther Army.
1486
01:03:10.949 --> 01:03:13.869
But, yeah, so, yes, they are. The member experience at
1487
01:03:13.889 --> 01:03:18.469
Panthers has declined. That's a fact. It's not an opinion.
1488
01:03:18.510 --> 01:03:21.719
That's a fact. Whether enough people care about it, because
1489
01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:22.780
I'm sure at the end of the day, it's all
1490
01:03:22.820 --> 01:03:25.219
about how many members do we sign up. I don't know.
1491
01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:29.400
But it's a little warning sign for the future. Because
1492
01:03:29.420 --> 01:03:32.679
when things aren't going so well, members we may well
1493
01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:34.440
remember this time. Yeah.
1494
01:03:34.500 --> 01:03:36.719
And while we're all on top of everything at the moment,
1495
01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:39.380
and other fans are probably just signing up and expecting, oh,
1496
01:03:39.380 --> 01:03:41.440
we're going to get our members pack at some point.
1497
01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:41.579
Yep.
1498
01:03:41.980 --> 01:03:44.340
They'll eventually realise. You'll probably start seeing it pop up
1499
01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:45.380
on forums and things like that.
1500
01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:48.920
Well, we've seen it on the pages about people blowing
1501
01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:50.679
up about the member card, which apparently they all knew,
1502
01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:52.489
they would have known about because they're part of the
1503
01:03:52.489 --> 01:03:55.389
80% or whatever that said it was okay in the survey.
1504
01:03:55.429 --> 01:03:57.530
But fans are blowing up about this. There's people putting
1505
01:03:57.570 --> 01:04:00.610
up photos of where they've got all the members cards
1506
01:04:00.670 --> 01:04:03.190
hung and all of that sort of stuff. And it's
1507
01:04:03.210 --> 01:04:03.829
not too late.
1508
01:04:04.289 --> 01:04:06.460
The game's about five months away. It's not too late
1509
01:04:06.539 --> 01:04:07.579
to change it or to create an option.
1510
01:04:10.349 --> 01:04:11.010
Create an option.
1511
01:04:11.050 --> 01:04:12.670
That's all you need to do. A lot of people
1512
01:04:12.690 --> 01:04:14.159
probably would pay the $ 10 if they have to.
1513
01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:15.599
Well, I did it. The one year where they made
1514
01:04:15.619 --> 01:04:17.360
you do that, I think it was 20... It's not
1515
01:04:17.380 --> 01:04:20.860
too late, guys. I want to say it was 2024,
1516
01:04:20.860 --> 01:04:22.739
maybe 2025, but there was a year where they made
1517
01:04:22.780 --> 01:04:25.139
you do that. Yeah, of course I did it. Yeah.
1518
01:04:25.860 --> 01:04:28.179
And it's not that hard to do.
1519
01:04:28.340 --> 01:04:30.690
Yeah, it's seriously not too late. There is so much
1520
01:04:30.750 --> 01:04:32.210
time to get these cards made up.
1521
01:04:32.469 --> 01:04:34.289
And I will say this too. I'm a member at
1522
01:04:34.309 --> 01:04:36.969
a core stadium, right? So they send lanyards and cards
1523
01:04:37.010 --> 01:04:40.150
every year. I probably use it once in the year
1524
01:04:40.190 --> 01:04:43.329
because the other times you do get sent tickets or
1525
01:04:43.349 --> 01:04:47.289
there's a digital option or whatever. But opening that up
1526
01:04:47.389 --> 01:04:51.289
and going, hey, I spent premium money on this and
1527
01:04:51.329 --> 01:04:53.190
I'm opening it up and I'm seeing my lanyard and
1528
01:04:53.210 --> 01:04:56.179
my card. That's part of the experience. Getting an email
1529
01:04:56.719 --> 01:04:59.000
that probably goes to your junk, get it out of
1530
01:04:59.019 --> 01:05:00.980
your junk. So you just spent $ 600 in my junk,
1531
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:03.460
get it out and press add to wallet is not
1532
01:05:03.500 --> 01:05:04.599
the same experience. Yeah.
1533
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:08.380
And I don't think, Or society is fully across all
1534
01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:12.030
this technology yet either. Maybe 10 years' time, everyone might
1535
01:05:12.050 --> 01:05:14.190
be on board. Everyone's got phones. Everyone might be on board.
1536
01:05:14.250 --> 01:05:16.070
But I still think we're in a period where there
1537
01:05:16.190 --> 01:05:19.929
would be some older fans that probably aren't on board
1538
01:05:19.969 --> 01:05:21.110
with all that sort of stuff.
1539
01:05:21.389 --> 01:05:24.559
Oh, 100%. And you know what? Like, even, like, I'm
1540
01:05:24.579 --> 01:05:27.420
in charge of ticketing in my life. So, whether it's
1541
01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:30.000
for our groups, whether it's for friends with concerts, mate.
1542
01:05:30.460 --> 01:05:34.170
transferring them tickets even digitally is like I am donating
1543
01:05:34.230 --> 01:05:37.570
blood and trying to give that blood to them. It's chaos.
1544
01:05:37.590 --> 01:05:38.150
It's full on.
1545
01:05:38.170 --> 01:05:41.809
So to suggest that it's an easy system, like, oh,
1546
01:05:41.829 --> 01:05:43.230
they don't have a Ticketmaster account. Now they've got to
1547
01:05:43.289 --> 01:05:46.300
create an account to do that. Or, oh, I've never
1548
01:05:46.380 --> 01:05:49.719
used this ticket existed before. Oh, no, I didn't get that. Seriously,
1549
01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:53.699
it's not actually as smooth as it seems. And the suggestion...
1550
01:05:53.989 --> 01:05:56.750
The sustainable one, okay, you probably got me. It probably
1551
01:05:56.809 --> 01:05:59.730
is more sustainable, I guess, than printing a plastic card that's,
1552
01:05:59.889 --> 01:06:02.510
you know, God forbid, is going to end up flying
1553
01:06:02.530 --> 01:06:05.829
in the Pacific Ocean or something. But the actual argument
1554
01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:10.260
they tried to push, that it provides faster access, that
1555
01:06:10.539 --> 01:06:14.239
is a laugh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What, it is faster
1556
01:06:14.260 --> 01:06:16.980
to get your phone out, unlock it, find it in
1557
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:19.119
your wallet. Maybe turn the brightness up. Turn the brightness
1558
01:06:19.159 --> 01:06:21.440
up when it doesn't work. We've all been there. Oh,
1559
01:06:21.460 --> 01:06:23.659
let me press this. This will make it work. All
1560
01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:27.059
of that, ban scanning a physical card. The end. Kidding.
1561
01:06:27.659 --> 01:06:28.260
Kidding themselves.
1562
01:06:28.300 --> 01:06:31.800
Come on. Come on. Let's change it. Let's change it.
1563
01:06:31.969 --> 01:06:34.469
Anyone still listening? An hour and six minutes in over
1564
01:06:34.489 --> 01:06:37.789
at Panthers. They haven't heard of us, Troy. Remember we
1565
01:06:37.809 --> 01:06:42.250
were on the membership survey. Please. Well, that is it
1566
01:06:42.269 --> 01:06:43.630
for Tension Drunning High this week. We're going to be
1567
01:06:43.650 --> 01:06:47.199
around for a few more weeks. New episodes out every Wednesday.
1568
01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:52.579
Visit westernweekender.com.au. Visit panthersnews.com.au. Follow us on all the socials.
1569
01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:55.860
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1570
01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:58.409
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01:06:58.469 --> 01:07:00.610
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1572
01:07:00.670 --> 01:07:04.769
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1573
01:07:05.409 --> 01:07:06.710
I'm Troy Dodds. Nathan, thanks for joining me.
1574
01:07:06.769 --> 01:07:07.250
Thanks, Troy.
1575
01:07:07.409 --> 01:07:10.340
Thanks to Penrith City Automotive for their sponsorship as well.
1576
01:07:10.380 --> 01:07:13.559
We love the team at Penrith City Automotive. Go out there,
1577
01:07:13.619 --> 01:07:17.159
buy a car, and make the switch because petrol, very expensive.
1578
01:07:17.539 --> 01:07:21.110
We will see you next time on Tensions Running High. And, well,
1579
01:07:21.250 --> 01:07:24.150
you know what? Despite the membership issues, go to Panthers.