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Here's the replay of the most recent live Q&A session held on my YouTube Channel. We covered everything from:
- Keeping support and growth plans separate
- What to include/how to price growth plans
- A widespread scam where people are impersonating web designers, sending extra invoices to their clients
- My top 3 tips for someone fresh into web design
- How to hire support and junior design help
- Automation tools and processes for your web biz
- Revenue boost ideas
And more.
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Welcome in, everybody, to the last QA session here on my YouTube channel for 2025.
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How in the freaking heck is this year almost over?
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I know I don't feel alone there.
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It's really good to see everybody here.
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Jump on in, head over to the chat, say hey.
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Uh, if this is your first time in one of these YouTube QA sessions, we have some fun.
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This is super loose, super casual.
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And I came festive today because this is the last day of the year for me, as Clark Griswold said.
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Uh, I hope it's the last day of the year for you too, or close to it.
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I hope you guys are all able to take an awesome little break here through Christmas time, perhaps through the new year.
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If you're American like me, you probably have a hard time taking more than a couple days off.
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But uh man, am I like in in the uh reflection and rest and recharge mode?
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I'd be curious to hear about how you're feeling about that as well.
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So let's dive in and have some fun.
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I will be happy to answer any questions you have about growing your web design business in 2026.
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I want to start off with this, though, guys.
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Um, I'm expecting a smaller crew here today since I did not uh promote this QA session very well.
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So let's do this since we should have plenty of time for questions.
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I would love to know what a win was for you in 2025.
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So jump in the chat.
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I'll feature you.
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I would love to feature one of your wins.
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These wins could absolutely be revenue related, it could be monetary, it could be a um, it could be a lifestyle win.
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It could be getting time back in your business.
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It could be the fact that maybe you've had more time to be able to take your kids to games in school uh than you have in a while.
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It could be learning something.
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We just talked about this in my community web designer pro.
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We talked about some wins this year from members who are earlier on, is just like getting the business, like being excited about having a website that you're proud of to start getting business through.
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So uh yeah, that is what I would love to start off here.
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Um, so let me know.
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Jump in the chat and share a win if you would.
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It could be as small or as large as you would like it to be.
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Um, help my solo Bill Biz wants to know what in the world is going on with Josh's attire.
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Well, Jurassic Park is my favorite movie of all time.
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And it's my Christmas sweater.
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It's Christmas time.
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That's what's going on.
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Uh so let me know when.
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I would love to hear from you guys, and then we'll jump into some questions and talk, talk shop here.
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So let me double check a couple settings on the YouTube's.
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I run if anyone's curious, I run my um live streams through eCamm.
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So if you guys ever do any sort of streaming webinars or training or like a YouTube stream, there's a few different options.
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Um eCamm is the one I use, but there's always a lag and delay in comments.
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So, yeah, guys, jump in.
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If you just joined us, jump in the chat.
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I would love to know a win that you had in 2025.
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It could be big, it could be small, it could be revenue related, it could be lifestyle related.
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Let me know.
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And then we'll dive into some questions here.
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Quiet chat right now.
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So is everyone multitasking, or are you looking up my Christmas sweater to try to get one of your own?
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Because if you are, I can't blame you.
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I can't blame you at all because it's a good one, it's a really good one.
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Working with the Josh Hall, says Alexia with Visual Vibe.
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Well, that is one of my biggest wins as well.
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For those who don't know, Alexia uh came on as my uh, I don't even call her graphic designer, more of a marketing strategist.
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And I would definitely recommend checking out Alexia.
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Go to visual vibe design.com uh to check to check her out and see what she's up to because she is a director of vibes, truly.
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So we got a lot of fun things planned in the world of graphics for Web Designer Pro and uh podcasts and YouTube channel stuff here moving forward.
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Thanks to Alexia.
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It's one of my big wins as well.
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Hey Anna, let's hear about Anna's win, real quick.
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Hashtag side hustler.
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I really wanted to hit five figures this year, but didn't quite make it.
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But I did 3x what I did last year.
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That's the most important thing to focus on, Anna.
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You 3x'd what you did last year.
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So huge congrats to you on that.
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Awesome, awesome, awesome.
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Um, we just talked about this for coaching tier members in pro.
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We had our uh like virtual Christmas hangout party this week.
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And um another member was in a similar boat where like uh the while the actual numbers, you know, for her wasn't weren't where she wanted to be, she did nearly 3x her business this last past year.
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And the great thing about that, for anyone who maybe isn't where you want to be, like on the actual numbers yet, it is all about the momentum.
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And you know, I've been self-employed for 16 years now.
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I can't overstate how important momentum is.
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So ride that wave, Anna.
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3x is awesome.
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I have no, and what's interesting too is I think a challenge for you, Anna, that I would recommend everyone think about when it comes to like an annual goal is let's say you didn't hit your revenue goal through 2025 fully, but what if you were to look at June 25 to June 26?
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And what if you just experimented in six months and looked at your last 12 months?
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Instead of looking at an actual year, like the year of 25, what if you looked back at the last 12 months and looked at the traject trajectory?
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And if you are getting that momentum and you've 3x your business, I'd be curious to see where those waves of revenue are.
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One thing you could do, Anna, is look back at like the last quarter and then look at the momentum that you've got in the last 90 days.
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Because what what happens often I've seen is like it sometimes year end cannot look that impressive, but if you look at the last 90 days, it can look really impressive.
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So uh I hope those tips help you, Anna.
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And anyone who is building momentum, but you're not right where you want to be yet.
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Look at it in different chunks of time, and it can uh it can really help boost that confidence for you.
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And you like the sweater too.
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Thank you, Anna.
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Uh yeah, this is like my favorite Christmas sweater of all time.
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It's super comfy too.
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I forget where I got it.
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My Facebook algorithm, my ads know me pretty well, and it's like, hey, I think you would like this Star Wars sweater.
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Or in this case, it was the Jurassic Park one, like the original.
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I was like, well, that's happening.
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That's absolutely happening.
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So yeah, that's where we're at.
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Um, I don't remember the site, I'm sorry.
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But uh if you search Jurassic Park Sweater, I you'll probably find this one.
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I mean, I'm if there's any more left, because it's a good one.
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Anna, I love your momentum, says Alexia.
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It will compound for you.
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You're planting the seeds.
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Alexia would know because she has been planting some graphic design and branding and marketing and web design seeds that have absolutely sprouted since going full time just in August.
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Heck yes.
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Hey Debbie, good to see you.
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Quite a few community tier members here in Web Descenter Pro showing up for this QA.
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This year I did it scared.
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Joined Josh's community, one of my best investments.
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Now I have streamlined my systems for building client websites and I'm my first VIP day client.
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Oh my gosh, Debbie, that is freaking awesome.
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Hats off to you.
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Huge, oh, huge, huge congrats.
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That is so great.
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Yeah, Debbie, I've seen you been you've been putting in the work.
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So that's freaking awesome.
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I'm so happy to hear that.
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Um, you have to send me a note.
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I'd love to see your VIP day package to see what that looks like, to see where the price points are.
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And um it's a great offer if you have a website in a day or a VIP day offer.
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Those are very, very um versatile because those are things you can turn on and off and ramp up and ramp down using them as upsells, use them as down sells.
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So good on you, Debbie.
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That's awesome.
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Jurassic Santa.
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It's Drusky, right?
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Did I get it this time?
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Drusky, I got it.
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Didn't even see your comment.
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Yep, we got Drewski.
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Drusky's in the house.
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Good to see you, Drewski.
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Anna says, that's so true.
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Most of the growth has come in the last six months and has had several leads who want to follow up in early 26.
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That's a key too.
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You have you may, I mean, there's just enough time left to where if you wanted to do some sort of push Anna for like a little cash boost, you could offer 2025 rates or some sort of promo, Christmas or New Year promo before you hit 26, just to get an influx of cash.
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And in case business clients are not savvy or not aware, it's often really worthwhile on getting expenses off the books in the year before.
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So that is you know a few things you could try to kind of get them through the door before the new year if you want to.
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Awesome.
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If you guys just joined us, I just saw a swarm of folks jump in.
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Welcome in.
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Jump in the chat right now.
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Before we get to questions, we are doing wins for 2025.
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They can be little, they can be big, they could be revenue, they could be lifestyle, they could be anything that uh built momentum for you or uh got you going this year.
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So I would love to know.
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Jump in the chat.
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Everyone here is super cool, so don't be shy, don't be nervous.
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Uh, you are in welcome company here.
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Uh jump in the chat and let us know a win for the year.
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I would love to hear some more wins and then we'll dive into questions.
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Yeah, doing it scared is scary, but typically pays off.
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It very rarely does not pay off, honestly.
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And I've seen this work in a variety of different levels.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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Awesome, guys.
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So share, share a couple wins.
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We'll get to some questions.
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Drewski has a good question.
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Uh, I did want to mention, for those of you just like Debbie said, perfect.
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By the way, um, Deb and I did not uh plan this out.
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She just happened to mention this when I happened to have a gift for you for Christmas.
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For those of you who are like Debbie and have been on the fence and are a little scared, but want to join my community, Web Designer Pro, I have a gift for you.
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It's below.
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The link is below.
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It is $100 off the annual plan for Web Designer Pro, the community tier, which gets you access to all my courses, the entire community, all everything we have going on in the community Web Designer Pro is yours.
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It also will give you access to nab your ticket for our upcoming ProCon event, which is happening in April.
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We have 17 tickets out of 50 available.
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So they have gone very fast.
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Um, so if you want to meet in person and come to this incredible online event and you want to join the community, jump on in with that link below.
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That's gonna give you a hundred off.
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And I'm gonna do what I call a coaching boost, which is uh a funer term, which I'd recommend you call some if some of your services something similar.
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Use the term boost, by the way.
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Boost is a great term that sells.
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Um, so we'll see if it works here.
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But it is basically an audit of your website, your offers, and your pricing.
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So, what I'll do with my coaching boost is when you join the community tier with that link below, that will tell me you came through here by way of my YouTube channel here via the stream, or this is gonna be repurposed for the podcast, my web design business podcast.
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I am going to follow up with you.
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I'll check your website out, I'll look at your offers, your pricing, and I'll get a feel for where you're stuck with those to help move the needle for 2026.
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And I'm actually gonna create for you, uh, I'm gonna give you recommendations for like a Q1 action plan.
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So it's all included when you join Web Center Pro at the community level.
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Use that link below, that will get you $100 off, and then I'll follow up with you.
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And I will be fulfilling those coaching boosts in January.
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So I'll try to do them the first two weeks, depending on how many come through.
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Um, so I hope to do that for you.
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And yeah, it's my little gift for you as we end 2025.
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The link is below, discount automatically applied.
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Oh, and then you do have to use that before January 1st.
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So you do have through Christmas here to get that in.
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Regarding your maintenance plans, what did you use platform custom PDF app for your monthly reporting?
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Can you talk about your workflow a bit?
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Another perfect segue into my maintenance plan course, which is the first course I ever created.
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The newer version is live in Web Designer Pro.
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Um, I do plan to add some additional things to that next year, but the maintenance plan course, what I walk you through in that is how to build, launch, and sell your maintenance plans.
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And there's a difference between a care slash support plan versus growth plans, which often include strategy, copy, SEO, and something that's more of a partner relationship for marketing.
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So let's let's focus in on the maintenance plan, support plan.
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Uh for general reporting, Drewski, I use managed WP.
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I've used managed WP since 2016.
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And the reporting is a big part of that.
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The other feature that I love about managed WP are the um, well, you can do a lot with optimization and updates, but I love, love, love the cloning feature.
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So you could do this through most hosting companies like SiteGround and WP Engine, but I like to have staging sites.
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And then let's say, let's say you have like like like Debbie mentioned your VIP day.
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Um what's really common right now is some sort of web design in a day offer.
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So like website in a day.
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So let's say you have a couple different templates, you could set those up in Manage WP, keep them all up to date, and then if a client picks template two, you could deploy template two in a staging site or a live environment, and then you are you have everything ready to go.
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And that's just one of the reasons I love Manage WP is the backups and the cloning, the reporting.
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And they just did a UI revamp as well.
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There are other options as well.
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Um, Daryl mentioned main WP, which is another uh big one in the WordPress site management space.
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WP Umbrella is one that's picking up Steam.
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There's Glow.
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Um, all of these tools have pros and cons.
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So my recommendation, if you're feeling really wild about it, is I mean, I'd recommend going through my maintenance plan course to know how to price and build and sell your plans to new and existing clients.
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Um, but I would also, in that course, you know, if you like what I do through Manage WP, awesome.
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If for any reason you don't like it, check out main WP, check out uh WP Umbrella, um, Glow, and then like I know WPMU Dev has their own system, WP Engine has some reporting and backups.
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So my recommendation for choosing the tool is get into a tool that has an environment that you like.
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Um, and it's gonna make your life a lot easier.
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Most of them do similar things, but like I was looking at Umbrella, um, and there's team seems great.
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There's a lot of really cool features.
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I know a lot of Web Center Pro members like Umbrella, but they don't have the cloning feature.
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So that's kind of a deal breaker currently until they add it.
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So I hope they add it.
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I know Umbrella reached out for a sponsorship after my last QA.
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So if they see this, let me know when to get the cloning feature.
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I'm interested.
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But they're all great, they're they're all they're all solid.
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Debbie sold her VIP day without a sales page, just announced it in beta for a handful of people while she irons out the kinks.
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Huge, huge.
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And that might depend on the type of clients and lead she's working with.
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Um, colder traffic, generally, you know, you're gonna need some sort of sales page.
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But yeah, sometimes if you've already got authority and you're already proven in a set of people uh or a networking group or whatever it is, don't wait to sell.
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That's the moral of the story.
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So good on you, Debbie.
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Win for Druski successfully doubled my build fee.
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That is a huge win.
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Congrats! Awesome, awesome, awesome.
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Doubled.
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I mean, that's I don't know what the price point was prior, but even if you're going from 500 to 1,000, huge.
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So how about 2026?
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We go for another another double.
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That'd be a fun goal, wouldn't it?
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Let's say you're at 25.
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Maybe that package is uh 5,000 by the end of 26.
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Hey Mike, really good to see you.
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Coaching tier member at Web Designer Pro in the house.
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Mike Albuquerque, great to see you, man.
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Who's had a good year?
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Awesome.
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Double Bear is Mike's brand, if you guys want to check him out.
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I know Mike's considering a uh productized offer for real estate agents in the Atlanta area.
00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:07.680
Awesome, guys.
00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:15.519
So if you just joined us, we are wrapping up by sharing, wrapping up the intro by sharing some wins from 2025 if you would like to share a win.
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And then we'll dive into some questions, some more questions.
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Awesome, no problem, Drewski.
00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:29.680
Um Daryl says, going off of what Josh said, the tools like Manage WP and main WP will build an email report for you.
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You just have to set it up and can figure out how you want it.
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Well said, Daryl.
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That is a much more succinct answer to uh the question that I probably should have said.
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Yeah, they all have either automated or manual reporting options, which is pretty darn cool.
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Yeah, so I like managed WP, no affiliate.
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I don't even think they have an affiliate program, unfortunately.
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Um but again, yeah, main, umbrella, they all have some level of reporting.
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So pretty, pretty cool.
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Uh and actually uh I'll show you real quick if you want to see it, at least in managed WP land, this is how this is how we do it.
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Alright.
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It's getting corny.
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Let's go to client report, and I can do a a new report, and this is where like you can automate this, and you can select in here.
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In my case, do I want to include optimizations, updates, backups, analytics, and then from there it'll generate a report for you, and then you can do you can either create a template or use a pre-built template.
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And again, this is stuff where you know you can create basically a template for all your reporting.
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Hey, hey, add logo, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And again, yeah, this is stuff that you basically create a template that you'll use for all the reporting.
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And then in the case of like Web Designer Pro, I don't, I forget, I didn't see where I set this at.
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This is it usually kicks off with the month, like the last 30 days.
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Um we'll come back to this.
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We'll let this we'll let this generate and then we'll come back to it.
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It usually only takes a few minutes, depending on the size of the site and the report.
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But yeah, I really like that because then you can automate it.
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Oh, here we go.
00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:23.440
Because then you can kind of automate it from there.
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This is kind of small right here.
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Let me see if I can actually download this and then we'll take a look.
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So in my case, this would be my report for Web Designer Pro.
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I don't know if you guys can see that or not.
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Let me try.
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Can you guys see the PDF?
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Let me know.
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Maybe it's little.
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But yeah, like in this case, I can see from my site, this is what the reporting would look like.
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And I don't have any stats in here, but um you can basically go through and look at like.
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All sorts of SEO stats if you want to do SEO, keyword monitoring.
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There's SEO implications in managed WP if you want to.
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You could do performance, you could do speed, all sorts of stuff.
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So there we go.
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We'll get to some other questions here, but that is a very, very brief look at managed WP for those who are curious.
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Yeah, that's the way to go.
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Most of all these will have it to where you can set up a template and you can automate these too, to where based off your template, you can automate those reports.
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And those reports, one thing I will say about maintenance plate reporting, just because clients like what I found is clients really like them the first few months and then it becomes white noise.
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But that doesn't mean you shouldn't send them because it is a great way to stay top of mind every month, and there's data in there.
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And if you have really good clients and you really want to get the most out of those reports, send a Loom video overviewing that report, and it will go a long way.
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There was 3X revenue growth, there was 3X or 2X site build, um, 3X sales goal.
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Awesome.
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I was planning on taking it easy because I want to take care of my second baby at home, but I just love putting pressure on myself.
00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:31.839
Shopify VIP days.
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Ah, we know how that goes.
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But you know, sometimes taking care of little ones, I feel like, you know, I'm a I'm a dad of three, seven, six, and three.
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And um I love my babies absolutely to death.
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They are why I do everything I do, but there it is nice to like have a business and have goals.
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And um, I think sometimes it's like a needed, it's a needed break from uh childcare, basically.
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Like it's even the stresses of of managing business and running business and managing clients, uh, it can weirdly be a nice break from doing bottles and dishes and diapers and everything else.
00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:15.759
So good to hear, Jessica.
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Huge congrats to you on uh tripling your sales goals.
00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:21.519
Huge, huge, huge.
00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:25.279
If you guys just joined us, uh we're gonna start taking some more questions.
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I did put a special gift for you below.
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Since we are heading into Christmas week, I've got something for you.
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It is $100 off an annual subscription to Web Designer Pro.
00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:40.319
The annual subscription is already two months free of Web Designer Pro.
00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:45.039
So you would essentially be getting three months free in Pro with that link below.
00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:50.880
And I'm also going to do a coaching boost for you, which is a website strategy audit.
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I will look at your website, I'll look at your offers, I'll look at your sales and your pricing, your sales page and your pricing, and I will give you my recommendations and an action plan for Q1 in 2026.
00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:04.960
So I would love to help you give you a little coaching boost.
00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:10.799
Let's keep on boosting those revenue numbers up and let's uh let's get you into the community if you guys have been on the fence.
00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:14.000
Because things are hot and hopping right now in Web Designer Pro.
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Hey Jeff, his win is starting my own web design business.
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Zero to multiple site builds along with MRR.
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Huge, huge, huge.
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I'm loving seeing these wins, guys.
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Congrats.
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From zero starting to multiple sites and building some MRR.
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I love to hear if that's maintenance plans, if that's any sort of like SEO or growth plans.
00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:42.160
Probably maintenance if you're early on, easier barrier barrier to entry.
00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:43.440
So congrats, Jeff.
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Freaking awesome.
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This is cool.
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I use main WP, but I haven't looked at the reporting features on it.
00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:53.519
Yeah, Google Looker Studio is cool too.
00:23:53.519 --> 00:24:01.519
It's just with Manage, at least, you get really granular with the because you can actually have add-ons inside of Manage.
00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:10.480
And again, one reason I like Manage WP is it's like it's a very basic SEO reporting tool as well, which most of the other ones are not.
00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:18.960
So you can't, and there's there's accuracy and data issues with any reporting, but um managed WP is not an SEO tool.
00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:29.359
But if you have a site, let's say you have a basic client site and you do what I recommend doing in my SEO course, which is to sell something called SEO Boost.
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Again, using the term boost, clients love it.
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Um, generally it's a one-time thing, but you could track it with reporting and you could make it an ongoing offer if you wanted to say, let's do SEO boost for 500 setup fee, and then it's like 99 a month on top of the care plane after that as an add-on.
00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:52.160
So that's uh another option you can do with that.
00:24:52.160 --> 00:25:00.880
Nice, nicely done, Debbie.
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Only time in my life I desire to be a 3X.
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But gee, well done.
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Well done.
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Touche.
00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:13.119
Drewski says, I have a PSA on a current scam to share with other builders.
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:18.720
Let me know when I should drop it in here, as I want to leave time and space for other questions.
00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.960
Uh, I think we're we're waiting on more questions, so let's do it, Drewski.
00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:26.640
Tell me about this scam.
00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:32.640
And don't say it's my gift uh of $100 off to join WebResenter Pro the annual plan.
00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:34.880
And then Jeff.
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:38.960
Yep, it's on the maintenance plans.
00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:41.359
That he was able to build those, that MRR.
00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:44.640
Touch of growth mixed in, but we'll try to separate those moving forward.
00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:45.200
Cool.
00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:47.839
Yeah, big, big point, Jeff.
00:25:47.839 --> 00:26:04.559
Definitely, definitely, definitely separate your support plans and growth plans because those are gonna number one, confuse clients and then they get really messy when a client wants to stop like an SEO service or a growth service, but you don't want them to stop hosting and maintenance.
00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:06.319
So separate those.
00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:16.640
However, one thing that you can do is with growth plans, let's say you have a growth plan that's like 500 or a thousand a month, you can include the support plan in it.
00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:25.519
Um, but because people ramp up and ramp down marketing and turn on and turn off marketing, again, you don't want them to turn off the maintenance plan.
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:30.640
So I would just make it really clear, and you don't have to do this, you can keep them as separate charges.
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:38.079
Some clients may want that, but I would be really, really open and clear about a growth plan is marketing related.
00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:40.880
Our support plans are support related.
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:46.079
This deals with what is already created for you, and we maintain it just like we maintain a car.
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:52.240
But, you know, like an auto mechanic maintains a car and does general maintenance and stuff, but we're not doing new stuff.
00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:57.119
We're not marketing, we're not doing SEO, we're not like driving traffic or creating content.
00:26:57.119 --> 00:26:59.759
That is for the marketing plan, the growth plan.
00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:02.640
Best to do that now, Jeff.
00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:08.240
I think you'll probably come back to me at some point in the future and say thank you for recommending that.
00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:12.559
Um, because those two can be really, really tricky.
00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:23.680
And it just can be confusing, understandably, for clients when there is a like there's a blurry line in the middle of support and growth plans for sure.
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:26.880
Uh-oh, we got a two-parter.
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:35.039
We got a two-parter from Drewski on some uh some drama, some scam, some some web design-related scam.
00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:37.359
So I'm on like I'm on eggshells here.
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:39.599
I'm pins and needles, see what this is about.
00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:41.759
If you guys just joined us, though, welcome in.
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:44.640
While Drewski is letting us know what he's got for us.
00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:46.640
Um, we were sharing some wins.
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:50.000
So feel free if you'd like to share a win from this year, guys.
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:53.920
And then link below has a special Christmas gift for you.
00:27:53.920 --> 00:28:05.599
If you are listening to this as a replay on the um podcast, by the way, my show, the Web Design Business Podcast, that same offer is valid for anyone who hears this up until January 1.
00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:07.599
The offer is $100 off.
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:11.759
An annual plan for the community tier for my community web designer pro.
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:15.599
And when you join, I'm gonna follow up personally with a coaching boost.
00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:18.640
And I will help you boost your revenue for 2026, baby.
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:19.680
Here we go.
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:26.000
So there's a scam going around, says Drewski, that involves impersonating designers to their own clients.
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:30.240
Ooh, via email for additional payment using fake invoices.
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:31.200
Just a heads up.
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:33.200
I appreciate that heads up.
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:42.319
Um Christy Price and Caitlin Deckel spoke about this recently on a YouTube chat episode.
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:44.480
Can you drop that in the chat, Druski?
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:49.039
I will put that in the links for this and in the description.
00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:50.240
I have not seen that.
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.359
I'm not familiar with either one of those, so I would like to, I would love to hear that.
00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:59.599
In fact, I might invite one of them on the podcast to talk about that because that's fascinating and terrifying.
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:07.519
And that is a um, I mean, I've thought about this as a podcaster and you know, somebody who does calls every week and is on YouTube.
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:10.640
Like, so much of my voice is out there.
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:21.440
I know this is common for celebrities and anyone who has literally an influencer or anyone who has posted videos online, your audio can be scraped and put into a system.
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:22.640
It just is.
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:28.000
Unfortunately, that is the um the downside of any sort of tech like this.
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:33.039
So I'm interested on like, yeah, I'm very, very interested in the diving into that.
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:40.160
I'm legit gonna chat with them to see about having them on the podcast to talk about this.
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:43.359
I'm gonna make let me do a screenshot just so I have their names.
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:53.519
So tell your clients, actually, that could be a worthwhile thing that to end the year on, which is like a heads up for clients.
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:58.640
And I'll if you guys have a newsletter, awesome, or just a casual reach out to say, like, hey, just a heads up.
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:02.480
I was made aware um by this scam that's going around.
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:08.640
If you ever hear from you know me requesting an odd invoice or something, double check with me.
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:11.440
Call me, text me, email me, whatever it is.
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:16.960
I was afraid of this and I'll have the link, but I'll follow up.
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:17.920
Cool, no problem.
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:18.799
No problem.
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:26.400
Scammers pull your email from your site or back in if you're using Squarespace and reach out to clients asking for additional payments and per standing you.
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.359
Yeah, something to be aware of for sure.
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:35.279
And that's awful, and um sometimes just makes you question humanity.
00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:38.559
These douchebranglers.
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Why are you effing it up for everybody?
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:43.039
Idiots.
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Morons.
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:48.240
Alright, before you before I get going, let's see here.
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:52.640
Um I'm gonna actually look this up real quick.
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:57.279
We all feel like we can't keep up, that's not right.
00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:01.440
Let me know if you see that.
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.240
And let maybe it was just talked about in this episode.
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:08.640
I see Christy Price, Squarespace tutorials.
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:15.359
Can't this episode is all about not being able to keep up, so I don't know if this is the right one.
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.000
So, yeah, let me know if you find that Drusky.
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:19.759
Appreciate the heads up.
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:22.240
All right, guys, question time.
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.440
How are you guys feeling about 2026?
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:29.440
What questions do you have for me in 2026?
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:42.240
One thing I will show you real quick while questions come in is speaking of the coaching boost, which is my offer for you when you join Web Desenter Pro using the link below with your discount for the community.
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:57.359
Um, I had a uh a member who's been a longtime student of mine who actually came in recently and we did a coaching boost, and he let me know, Tom, an Aussie company with local lead grow.
00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:00.160
He does SEO and growth plans.
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:10.160
And we did a coaching boost, and I looked at his offers, and I know he's cool with me sharing this just because Tom's awesome, and he recently left me a testimonial sharing this win.
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:17.039
But his SEO and growth plans here were a little just slightly confusing.
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:22.799
There wasn't enough clear distinction and separation between these plans, and he had four originally.
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:28.799
So, what I advise for him to do, which is a what I want you, I'm gonna give you a bit of a free coaching boost here.
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:46.480
What I'm gonna advise that you do is if you have either maintenance plan services or growth plan services or even a subscription web design model, make sure that there is a very, very, very, very, very clear distinction between each tier.
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:55.680
Because the problem that Tom had, which was prohibiting sales for him, was he had a tier in between 95 and 395 a month.
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:59.200
I think it was 195 or maybe it was two something.
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:04.960
Um, and I told him basically you've got two tiers conflicting at with each other.
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:15.359
So people don't quite like if there's if there's a tier that's about $100 apart with this kind of model, it's basically the same price point.
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:21.119
Even though that does extend past, you know, $1,200 in a year, it's basically the same plan.
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:29.440
So what I advised he do is to drop the second one and have a very, very clear starter package at $95 a month.
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:33.279
And I asked him, I was like, Tom, which one do you want to sell?
00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:37.519
Like of all these plans, the four originally, I was like, which ones do you want to sell?
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:44.000
And he's like, honestly, I love the growth plan because I can get results and then I can get them up to a higher plan if needed.
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:45.920
And I was like, okay, so that's the one.
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:47.519
That's kind of the featured plan.
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:52.079
And he uh he tweaked some stuff in here and added some more and made it a no-brainer.
00:33:52.079 --> 00:34:08.079
And the cool win about this that Tom let me know is that literally the day of after my coaching boost, he went and dropped that second tier plan and tweaked this and did some other stuff that I'll I'll keep confidential here with my recommendations.
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:10.159
And he sold one immediately.
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:13.280
He sold one literally the day he made the change.
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:24.800
And a big part of that was because it was super clear for that client that that client was past what he needed for the first plan, but he wasn't quite ready for you know something that's about $800 a month.
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:27.840
But $395 was perfect for him.
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:32.159
So little tip for you, a little coaching boost.
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:37.280
Clear separation in between your packages.
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:45.360
Oh, it is that one, Sedruski.
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:45.840
Okay.
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:47.119
Good to know.
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:48.880
So they just must have mentioned it in there.
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:50.000
I'll look that up.
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:52.159
I'm sure it's been covered elsewhere as well.
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:56.800
J-Roam995, welcome in.
00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:08.639
How can I uh how can I growth plan work for someone who works with a product based or somebody who works with product-based businesses?
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:13.679
Um well, it depends on what you'd want to offer in your growth plans.
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:30.960
Just as a heads up for everybody, with growth plans, it is the the tricky thing about like teaching on growth plans, and I do have a resource coming out in Q1 about growth plans, which is basically just looking at Web Designer Pro members like Tom, who has growth plans and looking at what they're including.
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:36.159
It really ranges from SEO, Google Business Profile setup.
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:39.519
It can range into like content and copy.
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:42.960
It could get into lead generation and email.
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:46.159
Growth plans could get into strategy and consulting.
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:47.599
It could be a lot of those things.
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:52.000
Growth plans could also be some sort of retainer for branding and design work.
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:55.039
It could get into more marketing and social media.
00:35:55.039 --> 00:36:00.239
So that is it's a very growth plans, are a very personal thing to you.
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:11.280
So, with the question of like with a product-based business, I mean, it doesn't matter whether the business is service, product, or whatever it is.
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:18.880
Any one of those categories of of well, those categories that I just mentioned are are things you could do.
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:21.280
You could do lead generation on a site.
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:23.920
Side note, also conversion rate optimization.
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:26.559
So you could do tracking and do website updates.
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:27.840
So that may change every month.
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:30.719
You may have a CRO plan, a conversion rate optimization.
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:37.199
One month might focus on SEO, one month might focus on content, one might focus on conversion.
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:44.400
I mean, you can really have fun with a CRO plan, which is kind of an umbrella term for doing any and all those type of things.
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:46.880
So totally up to you.
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:56.239
But um, I would definitely encourage that client, if interested in any one of those categories, that they could focus on any of that.
00:36:56.239 --> 00:37:07.840
Maybe it's SEO, maybe it's more general strategy from you, maybe it's marketing, maybe it's digital assets like graphic design, branding, maybe it's SEO, maybe it's copy, like copy edits.
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:09.599
Uh so it could be a lot of those things.
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:11.119
So I hope that helps.
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:24.400
There's uh there's a growth plan in all of us, but I don't want to rush anyone into doing growth plans because it is a lot of work and can be very time consuming depending on how you structure it.
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:30.639
So um if you are somebody who is early on, I would not rush into doing a growth plan.
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:41.280
I would build your business, building websites, building your maintenance plan, and then basically just offering consulting or strategyslash growth plans to your current clients.
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:43.599
Current clients, yeah.
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:54.400
No, I don't currently teach how to price this in your course because again, it's it's it's like there's not an exact growth plan model.
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:57.679
Now, what I do have inside of Web Designer Pro.
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:10.480
Well, one thing I will say is in the business course, everything you learn with packaging all of your services up, I do talk about retainers, recurring revenue, and maintenance plans, SEO.
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:17.280
Technically, all of those things could be rolled into a growth plan, um, but it's really all about your hours and your time involved.
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:26.480
So it's why it's kind of hard to say, like, here's an SEO growth plan, because it very, very is it drastically depends on what's in the SEO plan.
00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:27.840
Is it local SEO?
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:29.599
Is it keyword-based SEO?
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:30.400
Is it content?
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:31.440
Is it new content?
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:33.519
Is it tweaking existing content?
00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:41.280
But for anyone curious, one thing, when you join Web Center Pro, the link below will give you your my Christmas gift to you of 100 off.
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:45.920
You can jump in here, and I have a space here called Inspiration.
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:50.639
And what this is, I can't show you guys publicly because we're on YouTube right now.
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:56.400
I can't show you each each one of these, but um well, I can show you Sam's.
00:38:56.400 --> 00:39:10.960
Well, I'm not gonna show you his numbers, although he's really public about this, but uh what you could do is Inspiration is a collection of like a dozen or so Web Designer Pro members who are killing it at different levels, different revenue ranges, different types of business setups.
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:16.719
Sam, for example, he grew his business with his growth plan, which was local SEO.
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:26.159
So um what I've done here with all these is I've got basic details on like their main services and then a good example of how what to follow them for.
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:36.480
And then in this case, like you can go to Sam's website and you can look at his growth plan, which for him are his SEO plans.
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:39.519
And I think that Sam is just doing one.
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:42.159
Oh, here we go.
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:43.360
So he's got two.
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:48.880
So, okay, so he doesn't have public pricing now.
00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:49.599
That's a new change.
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:51.039
I'll have to ask him about this.
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:58.559
Okay, so basically, what he has is he calls it a TLC plan, which for him means traffic, leads, and conversions.
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:04.159
So he has one that's Just SEO and one that includes SEO plus a new website.
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:07.199
And then so you're welcome to check this out if you guys want.
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.440
Sam is a shining example.
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:12.320
Side note, I'll post this in the chat.
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:17.119
You guys actually, if you look at my YouTube channel, you'll probably see this.
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:22.239
But right now on Web Designer Pro, I'm building out some more case studies.
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:28.960
But Sam has an incredible story that he sent me about how he has brought his business.
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:35.840
Actually, funny enough, I'm sure I can share this publicly because he let me know and we're going to talk about it here at some point publicly.
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:44.719
He actually is on the verge, or maybe it just crossed $400,000 in his first three years in business.
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:58.400
And if you're wondering what was behind that trajectory, most of it was he learned how to build websites at a premium rate and then transitioned to growth plans and really focusing on SEO and local SEO.
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:02.239
And then his growth plans were a huge part of that because it's all recurring revenue.
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:05.519
So definitely someone to learn from there.
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:13.920
Side note, additional side note, if you want to leave learn even more from Sam, um, you'll get access to our guest training training librarian pro.
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:16.559
And Sam has done two trainings.
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:28.159
He spoke in person at our uh ProCon event this last year, where he shared more and more about like the details of how he does his growth plans.
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:36.159
And then you can also check out a training he did on this is specifically about like local SEO tips.
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:46.079
But the reason I'm showing you this is when you learn from Sam on how to get your site to rank locally, that is what you can put into your growth plan.
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:49.760
So some resources there that I that I hope help you.
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:55.599
Again, some of those you have to, you know, dive into pro and or dive into your own research on Sam's sites.
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:57.840
But uh yeah, hopefully those will help.
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:03.360
So it I will, you know, just really quick high-level advice on pricing growth plans.
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:12.480
First of all, don't commit to doing something forever if you're not for sure you can get results and you're not for sure you like it.
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:17.440
So, what I would experiment with is like a 90-day sprint of some sort.
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:24.960
If you're doing SEO, we all know you need at least 90 days to get some sort of result with SEO.
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:30.639
So in that case, I would do like, I would test it out with current clients, ideally.
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:37.280
I mean, you could do it with a new client, but you'll get better results and you'll get more people to purchase from you if it's a current client list.
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:51.199
What I would do though is do like a new year and 90-day sprint and call, I would call it SEO Boost and say this is a 90-day sprint to where like month one, maybe you take on 10 clients.
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:56.159
And month one could be we look at we do like on-site stuff.
00:42:56.159 --> 00:43:03.760
We'll do like basic keyword research, we'll tweak your titles, descriptions, metadata, and you know, up to like five pages.
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:11.360
Month two, maybe it's building content and going in and doing alt text and optimizations and stuff like that on the main pieces.
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:21.199
Month three is maybe some form of both of those things and tweaking, or maybe doing backlinks, or maybe doing some sort of strategy to help them get more traffic to the site.
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:38.000
So those are some ways you could uh could basically do like a sprint of sorts with a growth plan to make sure you like it, you get results, and then if you do, there's your opportunity to say, all right, client, or however many clients you have.
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:45.360
We did three months, you know, you get it gets a report at the end of this, and maybe that's like an like maybe it's a thousand dollars for a sprint.
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:47.599
Maybe it's $9.99 for 90 days.
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:50.800
You get 10 of those, you just made 10 grand, right?
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:51.360
Yeah.
00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:53.119
And then there we go.
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:59.360
And then it's a great way to upsell that ongoing at a discounted rate, maybe, or or at the same rate, whatever it is.
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:05.440
So, an idea there to help you guys get going with growth plans that I've seen work out for Web Designer Pro members.
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:10.880
Side note, my my growth plan that I had was not called a growth plan.
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:16.639
Uh, I'll show you real quick and then I'll answer a couple other questions that just came in.
00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:24.320
So, with my agency in Transit Studios, this is the version of the agency when it was me and my small team.
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:29.679
My version of a growth plan was SEO, and our SEO packages.
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:30.960
I don't even have much here.
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:32.639
You can watch this if you want.
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:42.719
But it was literally just it was SEO Boost, which is the main like upsell add-on service that I did on all websites or offered on all websites.
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:44.480
And it was at different levels of boost.
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It was five keyword research or 10 on-site optimization.
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:54.559
And then I had an SEO partner who did backlinks and ongoing SEO work, and I just upsold his charge.
00:44:54.559 --> 00:45:00.800
I think he charged me like $299, and if I remember right, I think I charged $4.99 per month for the main plan.
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:04.320
So there was a setup fee and then ongoing.
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:07.760
And that was my version of a growth plan, which was just SEO plan.
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:18.719
So and that was separate from my maintenance plan, uh, which and generally, again, like I mentioned earlier, if you missed that, I I recommend separating those two.
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:21.519
All right, guys.
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:25.760
Well, we're at about the last 14 minutes or so.
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:36.159
So with the fact that I often answer questions in two to three minute segments, I would get your question in now if you have a qu if you have a question.
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:39.360
Uh Truwski, can you talk more about automation?
00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:41.679
Do you ever get into Zapier or like automations?
00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:42.400
I do.
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:48.559
I it kind of again, it depends on like what do you want to automate?
00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:59.199
Um, I one thing I love about 17 hats, which is what I use for proposals and stuff like that, contracts, is you could do what's called workflows in 17 hats.
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:02.960
I do have a video on how I use 17 hats.
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:21.119
So it's not Zapier, but it functions like Zapier with something called workflows, which is where when somebody opens, I see it like when somebody opens a proposal, if they accept it, it kicks them over right to the contract, then it kicks them over to the invoice, they pay, then it goes out to a getting started email.
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:24.559
I get uh I get notified about that.
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:32.880
And then you could set up a further automation in 17 hats or elsewhere where you do like an automatic, you know, template starting type of thing.
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:38.159
So that would be a good way to go, is basically anything you're doing.
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:48.000
What I would what I would keep track of as a like a general rule of thumb, Druski, is take a look at the last probably 14 days, like a couple weeks of work.
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:50.480
And the more detailed you can get the better.
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:58.960
But I would look at like what are the things I'm doing that's repeatable and that drain me, and then create a little master list of like what you want to delegate.
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:06.960
This is actually side note, something I teach in my scaling course, which is you have two ways of getting work off your plate.
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:09.360
You can automate or delegate.
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:17.519
So automation is always where I recommend starting because you can if you want to do it awesome, or you could pay somebody to do it.
00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:34.880
And yeah, use Zapier, or you can automate maintenance plan reporting with Banch WP, you can automate a lot of the like uh business systems with 17 hats, which is what I use, or Moxie or another CRM, there's all sorts of automation on all these platforms.
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:42.079
Um, Zapier is the best though, and is still the GOAT for getting different tools to talk to each other.
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:55.039
So if you have like a calendarly booking form that has a Zoom call, and then the summary goes into a Google Doc, and then the Google Doc goes into your website, and then that goes into your invoicing system.
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:56.480
That's where I would use Zapier.
00:47:56.480 --> 00:48:04.880
There actually is a recent podcast episode I did on what automations are really, really worthwhile addressing.
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:10.239
This would be a really good thing to focus on as we start 2026.
00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:15.360
So if you guys want, go to my podcast, Web Design Business Show, Web Design Business Podcast.
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:18.079
It was just recently with uh Kristen.
00:48:18.079 --> 00:48:22.880
So episode 403, I'll drop this in the chat.
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:32.239
Um, while we are both 17 hats users, Kristen had a lot of great ideas about what you can automate that you may not be thinking of.
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:36.480
A lot of this has to do with follow-ups and email reminders.
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:42.000
Let's say you send an invoice and they're supposed to pay in seven days.
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:47.920
Do you have an automation on that or are you keeping that in your head when you got to manually go back and check?
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:55.199
So a lot of different things that are covered in this episode, I'd recommend checking out for sure to help out with the automation side of things.
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:57.119
Yes.
00:48:57.119 --> 00:48:59.920
Systems, systems, systems.
00:48:59.920 --> 00:49:08.880
Systems are like the creative, the anti-creative, because that's like you know, most creatives and artists don't want to have any sort of process or system.
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:14.320
But if you want to be profitable and keep your sanity and run a real business, it's all about systems.
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:16.480
All about systems.
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:17.679
So definitely.
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:23.199
Hey, Visual Grid uh says, I got in late.
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:24.079
How late am I?
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:29.360
You are 50 minutes late, but we got 10 minutes to answer some questions.
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:36.159
Ooh, I like this because it's not just asking for tips that you have for a new fresh freelancer, but three.
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:37.360
Three specifically.
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:38.239
I like that.
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:39.440
Ooh.
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:58.639
Tip number one find a mentor that you that you like, that you jive with, that you feel their vibe.
00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:01.280
Um it'd be awesome if it's me.
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:01.840
That'd be great.
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:11.440
I'd hope to see in my the courses tier at Web Designer Pro to get you started with the courses, but there's a lot of different coaches and people giving advice and stuff.
00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:22.880
And one one through line with a lot of members of my community, Web Designer Pro that I've seen that they've talked about is they've they've trusted me for a lot of them many, many years.
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:28.639
So first and foremost, find somebody you resonate with and you like and you trust.
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:50.880
Because what's gonna happen, I was gonna tell you to like figure out your tool stack, but what often happens is you find someone you know, like, and trust, and then you just adopt their tools or some of their tools, which like myself, I use Divi, Circle, Manage WP, SiteGround for hosting, Yoast as my SEO plugin, 17 hats.
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:53.199
I have kind of my tool stack.
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:58.239
And if you trust me, you're probably gonna take a look at those tools at the very least.
00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:22.159
Now, some people don't jive with any one of those tools for any reason, and that's absolutely fine, but it will save you a lot of time because instead of having to figure out and research and go down a rabbit trail of all the different tools, if you like somebody and you like their designs and their process and you're like, you know what, I am just gonna use Divi, or I am just gonna use 17 Nets because that's what Josh uses, it will save you a lot of time in the early days.
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:26.719
So find somebody you know you you feel like you've vibe with and trust.
00:51:26.719 --> 00:51:27.760
If it's me, awesome.
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.079
But there are a lot of great web design coaches out there.
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:35.039
Um number two, do not do this alone.
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:46.159
And this may be worthwhile being two and three, because well, I'll give you a third one, but it is a long, lonely, hard road if you do this alone.
00:51:46.159 --> 00:52:01.920
So as soon as you can invest in yourself professionally by way of hopefully, again, my community joining Web Designer Pro with the link below if you want to commit to it annually, you will go so much further, so much faster when you're not alone.
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:07.119
Because you have me to guide you, you have others who are right where they're with you and others to learn from who are ahead of you.
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:08.639
So don't go it alone.
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:17.360
There are plenty of free Facebook groups out there as well, a lot of great resources, but uh premium is what's gonna give you the most revenue, the fastest.
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:23.119
And I've got hundreds of Web Designer Pro members who would back me up on that if they were here live with me.
00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:24.639
Uh, a couple might be.
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:27.360
So if that's the case, jump in the chat and uh let me know.
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:28.480
Say here, here.
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:37.760
And then the last thing I'll say real quick is don't here's a big one, and this is corny and this is cheesy, but it's so true.
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:42.960
Don't measure your first year to somebody's 10th year.
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:47.840
And by that I mean if you're new and fresh, you got a lot to learn.
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:59.199
So, like, you're probably not the best designer, you're probably not the best SEOer, you're probably not the best copywriter, you're probably not the best salesperson, probably not the best marketer, you're probably not the best of any of that.
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:02.239
And that's exactly where you should be because you're brand new.
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:05.599
I was terrible at all that stuff when I got started.
00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:09.280
And I'm really good at some of that now, and I'm still not great at a lot of that now.
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:28.960
Um, but the reason that's important early on, especially nowadays, is you can get really discouraged by looking at somebody who's in their you know 10th year in business and is killing it and is making several hundred thousand dollars a year and has beautiful designs and well-oiled systems and processes.
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:31.039
That can be really discouraging.
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:36.880
But look at look at folks like that as inspiration and not competition.
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:45.679
Um, so do not judge your first phase uh with somebody who is well further along.
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:47.119
Awesome.
00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:48.559
You've been following me and Kevin Geary.
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:51.199
Yeah, Kevin Geary is up to some great stuff with Etch.
00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:54.639
So that's it's gonna be a big game changer for WordPress.
00:53:54.639 --> 00:54:00.719
Um, Kevin's somebody who is probably like polar opposite as me as far as personality, and he's a friend of mine.
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:02.079
Uh, he's been on the show.
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:11.920
Um, we could not be more different in our like presence uh in our like styles of communication and um the way we teach and stuff.
00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:23.840
But uh yeah, like maybe you follow Kevin for more like web design specific, like WordPress etch kind of stuff, but me for more business and marketing and recurring revenue.
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:27.440
If you get two coaches who you drive with, and that's when you really, really go.
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:30.719
I have a lot of web design pro members, by the way, who have two coaches at least.
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:33.119
So uh yeah, huge.
00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:34.559
Kevin's great though.
00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:38.639
Debbie says, also for a fresh freelancer, Josh the spot on, don't go it alone.
00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:39.920
The intelligence is in the room.
00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:41.840
Woo! Well done, Debbie.
00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:43.760
That is well said, it's true.
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:45.599
That is so, so true.
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So, yeah, guys, use the below, use the link below.
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And I will personally, for you, Visual Grid, I don't know your real name if you want to drop it in the chat.
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But since you probably if you're new, maybe you have a website, maybe not.
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For my coaching boast boost for you, if you join, is what I would do for you is I would ask you like, what what are the biggest pain points?
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What's a revenue goal?
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And then I'll give you kind of a plan of action for that first quarter of 2026.
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Self-taught graphic designer going into web design.
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Heck freaking, yeah.
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That's my story as well.
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So you're in good company.
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You will go further faster because you have a background in design.
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It's a lot harder for folks who have no design eye to you know get going with a web design business, quite honestly, because they have to learn design principles, color theory, color management, UX, basic design principles, typography, hierarchy.
00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:51.039
Um, if only somebody had a design course out there.
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:53.840
Oh, wait, that's a part of your Web Designer Pro subscription.
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:57.679
You can go to my website design course, which will guide you through all that as well.
00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:01.280
All right, we'll get to some final questions here, guys.
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:04.719
Um, hey, Josh is jumping in because I saw the live stream.
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:06.639
Forgive me for not signing up just yet.
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:08.000
2026, I promise.
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Awesome.
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Well, if you want, I got the link below, which will give you $100 off an annual subscription for the community tier, and I will give you a personalized coaching boost.
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:23.199
Uh, please give advice on reducing meetings or hiring customer service assistance.
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:24.239
Ooh, good question.
00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:27.519
Let me take a drink and then we'll do some final questions, including this one.
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:34.960
So reducing meetings depends on how many clients we're talking about.
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:47.199
Also depends on your services, with as to whether you're you're doing meetings for like support requests or strategy, new and like new work.
00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:58.480
In any case, in either one of those situations, what I would do is create basically meeting or call blocks in your week that do not deviate.
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:03.039
And you basically force clients to take a block on your calendar.
00:57:03.039 --> 00:57:15.039
So, especially for good clients, and you could say, like, look, we do we do our meetings and um maybe even in-person meetings or support calls within certain times.
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:19.119
So, like Tuesday, 10 to 2 are our call times.
00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:20.000
You can grab a slot.
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:22.000
And it doesn't mean every slot's gonna be filled.
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:23.679
Meetings, same thing.
00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:35.280
I mean, in most cases, unless there's an absolute need to do a bunch of in-person meetings, I would I would just be really up front and just tell people like we are slammed right now.
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:40.079
Um, we are booked out, so I'm only taking meetings on the phone or via Zoom.
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:43.920
Grab one of these spots, you've got two windows to choose from this week and next.
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:50.559
That's how I would that that's the that's the clear answer for pretty much any meeting or call issue.
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.039
Um hiring for support.
00:57:53.039 --> 00:58:01.679
If it's if it's like maintenance plan style support, come into WebSider Pro and you can go to the pros for hire.
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:04.000
Uh, we have a section in there for pros for hire.
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:11.039
And if you have an opportunity, you will land a qualified person very quickly who is in a more junior style role.
00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:16.559
Because we have a lot of pros who are early on who would kill to work with you and your agency and learn from you.
00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:23.599
So obviously, any premium community is going to be your quickest barrier to uh to get past.
00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:32.719
If it's a remote role that you just want to get like pure web design help on, the the challenge with this is to build that trust.
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:41.840
But um there's a really great Filipino site called onlinejobs.ph.
00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:52.880
And the difference with this one, for those who don't know, folks in the Philippines, they speak incredible English, especially if it's typed.
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:56.960
So for most remote jobs, and they're often very, very tech savvy.
00:58:56.960 --> 00:59:00.880
Like my VA is from the Philippines, and she is an absolute wizard.
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:03.599
Somebody mentioned Zapier earlier, was it Drewski?
00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:10.400
Um she is like she's so much better at Zapier than I am.
00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:11.519
She is a wizard.
00:59:11.519 --> 00:59:14.719
Um, she's incredible and loves the tech side of things.
00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:22.719
So this is a good example of a site where you could look depending on the type of work you want to check out and get some help with.
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:26.880
Uh onlinejobs.ph if interested in checking that out.
00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:32.719
Otherwise, communities, I would also be very, very quick to talk to your current network.
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:35.440
And then who do they know?
00:59:35.440 --> 00:59:40.960
Who are they working with who might need more work can be a great way to expand your network like that as well.
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:48.960
Happy to hire somebody who's a junior in web design and marketing, looking to learn more, get their feet wet with client management and support.
00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:49.679
Awesome.
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:50.159
Yeah.
00:59:50.159 --> 00:59:59.280
So the job description for that would be junior level web design, junior marketing, probably sales and copy and interest in that at least.
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:04.400
And then Basic project management and client communication and some VA support.
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:05.760
So there's your job list.
01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:17.440
Um, and see who might be interested in doing that for you know $4.99 or $9.99 a month, depending on what the rates look like for you.
01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:23.760
That's that's quite as far as like a role chart goes, that's quite a few toes.
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:26.320
You know, you're dipping into multiple roles.
01:00:26.320 --> 01:00:37.360
So generally, if somebody is filling multiple roles in your org chart, uh, they should probably be competent compensated as such, or at least have a competitive starting rate that might go up if they're doing more and more.
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:39.440
So all right, sounds good.
01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:41.679
Can't wait to see in pro in 2026.
01:00:41.679 --> 01:00:44.000
Awesome, awesome.
01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:45.840
All right, guys.
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:48.480
Well, we are up at the top of the hour.
01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:50.480
So I hope you enjoyed this session.
01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:52.719
Last one of 2025.
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:54.320
I can't believe Christmas is almost here.
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I hope you guys have had an incredible year.
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Hope this gave you some inspiration and some things to focus on for 2026.
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:05.440
If 25 was not great, I had a podcast episode a couple weeks ago that will help you out with that.
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So check that out.
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And uh lots of great stuff, guys.
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Again, I hope to see you in Web Designer Pro.
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That's what I'll do for you.
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So awesome, guys.
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:48.079
Daryl, thanks for joining.
01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:48.800
Great to see you.
01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:51.039
Merry Christmas, happy holidays, everybody.
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:52.639
Jeff, good to see you.
01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:53.360
No problem.
01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:55.280
I'm glad you're loving the content and helping.
01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:56.320
Awesome, awesome.
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All right, guys.
01:01:57.119 --> 01:01:58.320
Thanks for the great questions.
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Love this chat.
01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:01.119
Uh, typical dad joke.
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I'll see you next year.