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Speaker 1: A Poche Production.
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Speaker 2: On this episode of We Will Always Have... She went from 55, I kid you not, to 35. What the fuck?
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 2: This is season six of We Will Always Have with me, Christian Hull, and the gorgeous Chrissie Herm. We're in Bali doing a spiritual retreat and also on a little bit of a sojourn. Two weeks we go away. We've done a variety of incredible activities and we really hope that we can impart some sort of wisdom or guidance in this season. So please enjoy.
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Speaker 1: I was just saying ever so quietly. The size of the mosquitoes out here, how are you coping with them?
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Speaker 2: I've not seen a single one.
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Speaker 1: Oh, mate, they're all.
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Speaker 2: Over my legs.
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Speaker 1: I've got the biggest bites on my legs.
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Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 1: They are absolutely munching away. I feel like a mess. I feel like sometimes I'm very put together. Like when I go out, like appearance-wise, I'm very groomed.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: I've got makeup on. Yes. I've got my nails on. I've got my gloss.
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Speaker 2: Physically, you look put together.
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Speaker 1: I look very put together.
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Speaker 2: Mentally and emotionally. Oh, no. Different story. Very much.
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Speaker 1: I feel like something the cat's dragged in. My hair, the water over here is so hard. I conditioned this. Feel it.
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Speaker 2: Feel it. Oh, it feels like fairy floss. how it's very dry very dry so so dry so when your hair is is dyed pink do they magenta magenta do they strip the living daylights out.
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Speaker 1: Of it no not at all no what's your natural hair color white i'm very very very very white now so why is it so dry because of the water really it's because the hair's bleached no because it's the water.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah oh my god i'm running my Yeah, it's sort of, oh, I shampooed this too.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: It's very.
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Speaker 1: I shampooed mine last night.
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Speaker 2: It's like sticky. It's like coarse.
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Speaker 1: Very coarse.
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Speaker 2: It sticks to your hand.
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Speaker 1: Yes, very, very, very coarse. And I'm not wearing any makeup and I'm sweating like I profusely like drips. I just look like something the cat's dragging.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter though. Look where we are.
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Speaker 1: Oh, it doesn't matter whatsoever. But I've got a certain standard. Like, do you have a standard when you go out, you like to look a certain way?
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Speaker 2: Oh, Charlie, how much more does he need?
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Speaker 1: That's Lele. Stand by, please. Oh, okay.
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Speaker 2: Can you read this one out? No, I won't read it out. Yeah, don't read that one out. Lele is, we met Lele on our retreat, our spiritual journey, and Christine made a new best friend forever. Forever. Both similar ages, both similar personalities, and Lele is the one that I'm not upset with her, but Christine... She just gives me that really disappointed look of a morning and looks at me and goes, oh, yeah, how'd you sleep? And I can tell she's thinking, fuck, I wish you were Lele. Did she give you an update? Did she have a rager last night? Did she?
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Speaker 1: I don't know if she'd really want me to read it out to you.
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Speaker 2: Can I look? Yes.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Let's see here. Oh, no, she is you. Oh, my God, she's you.
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Speaker 1: She's me.
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Speaker 2: She didn't have a wild night. She had a few health issues. Very similar to the ones you had yesterday before we got on the boat.
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Speaker 1: And today.
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Speaker 2: Oh, no.
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Speaker 1: I have to trot something shocking. Both marches that I had this morning with my oat, straight through. Straight through.
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Speaker 2: Maybe it was oat. It was definitely oat.
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Speaker 1: No, it was oat. Honestly, the place.
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Speaker 2: You feel like a mess. I do.
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Speaker 1: I feel like an absolute mess. Hello. Lovely gentleman looking up at me. As he walked up, he was looking up at me. I feel a mess. I do. I feel like a mess.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think we've just had such a, well, I've had a full-on week.
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Speaker 1: Well, you've come into your own. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: This week. Yeah, I had a really good call with mum this morning. And that's just a conversation that I've just not had with mum for years. Yeah, it was really lovely. It was just like not surface level conversation. Like, how's the weather? How's your knee? Oh, yes, I'm getting a sponsored post. Yes, the packages are still there. It was like deep, meaningful. And it was just really nice. I told her about the reading I had with Amanda and how the first thing Amanda said was, you know, I'm getting a grandmother figure with Elle. And mum didn't put the pieces together. I was like, and then as soon as she said that, I was like, oh, my God. And then mum goes, Elle? Oh, yes, because we've always called it Nan. Yeah. She's like, oh, shit. I said, wow. And then I told her about her, prawning, and she laughed.
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Speaker 1: Isn't that beautiful?
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Speaker 2: God, that's insane.
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Speaker 1: That's incredible, isn't it?
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Speaker 2: And then mum told me she had the gift.
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Speaker 1: Which is something you weren't.
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Speaker 2: Aware of previously? She didn't specifically say it as that. Well, she just said, I've always had, like, strong feelings forever. Like, really good intuition, which is true.
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Speaker 1: Do you think that's mother's intuition? Or do you reckon?
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Speaker 2: It could absolutely be.
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Speaker 1: I would say some people would say it was mother's intuition.
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Speaker 2: Isn't that a feeling though? Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Oh, definitely.
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Speaker 2: Because there were two examples. One that she was like, don't you remember when I was being really persistent with your brother about X, Y and Z? I was like, oh yeah, you were. I knew something was going to happen. I knew he was going to find the love of his life, get married and he needed to sort his shit out before he met her. And I knew it was coming. And I was like, sort your shit. And she sort of.
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Speaker 1: What does she push you to do?
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Speaker 2: Does she push you to do anything? Look, there was no. If I stop and think about it, maybe. But there was one conversation that we had, bang on, 10 years ago. She sat me down and I was about to enter a new job and a new space and everything. She goes, no, I don't have a good feeling about this.
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 2: And at that point I was like so invested and like so keen. And I was like, this is going to change my life. I was like, here and this and this. I'm like, this is the best. And, you know, got more money. The job was a lot more expensive. Like, it was really great.
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Speaker 1: And what did you do when she told you, I.
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Speaker 2: Don't think this is it? I was like, oh, mum, you don't know. You've not worked in the radio industry. I was like, oh, look, it's, no, it's different. Like, no, it'll be fine. It'll be great. Sure enough, seven months later, it was the worst decision I'd made in my life.
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Speaker 1: There you go. So she knew.
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Speaker 2: And I remember going. Shit, mum specifically said. All the things that happened, happened.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you're telling me about that actually. So there you go.
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Speaker 2: And then recently I was catching up, I was staying with my brother. He was like, do you remember how mum used to always harp on about X, Y and Z and all that globalisation, all these weird, she used to go off on her tangents about shit. Yeah. And like this is going to happen in the world and this is what this is going to lead to and blah, blah, blah. I was like, oh yeah, God, mum always does that. And he goes, well, do you know what she said? I'm like, sort of. And then he rattled through it and he was like, she was completely right. This led to this, which led to this, which led to this. And now we're fucked. And this has gone here. And this has happened. And, you know, people, blah, blah, blah. And Nick's like, we just take mum as a crazy person off on our ramblings.
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Speaker 1: But I think kids do that with their mums, though.
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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
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Speaker 1: They don't tend to take on it. It's like, oh, mum, you're just being overprotective.
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Speaker 2: Oh, mum, you're just holding your different generation.
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Speaker 1: Oh, mum, you have no idea.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then, like, I get to almost 40 and life experience is such a key part in life. Right, so you can't really tell your kids, I know best, because.
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Speaker 1: No, they need to do it themselves.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they do.
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Speaker 1: They need to find their own little ways.
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Speaker 2: I haven't had a conversation like that with Mum for so long, and I'm like, oh, I miss this.
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Speaker 1: Oh, see, that's great.
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Speaker 2: Why don't you get investors, but you're still social?
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Speaker 1: But what are they investing in?
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Speaker 2: Christine, they're investing in you.
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Speaker 1: But what would I charge them? What would I say?
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Speaker 2: Hello, I'm building a business called Still Social. It's for women 50 or 40 plus.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 2: And we're going to be doing this and this is the business strategy and plan and this is how it will generate an income and a revenue and there's a gap in the market or there's this.
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Speaker 1: Crying out for that.
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Speaker 2: Definite gap in the market. This is what I want. This is what I need. Are you willing to come on board? Here are your packages.
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Speaker 1: I would like, I'll just put it out there, I would like $ 500, 000. Is that too much?
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Speaker 2: Well, i think you need to know what charlie's charlie's charlie's donations to the rspca yes you remind me so much of a friend of emmy lou you know emmy lou yes yeah she would have these absolute incredible grand ideas right and i would sit there and go logistically like.
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Speaker 1: How do you do that you gotta have 500 000 for what For me, for the business.
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Speaker 2: What would you give?
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Speaker 1: No, no, no.
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Speaker 2: If I'm an investor and you go, I would like $ 500, 000. Yes. And I would go, cool, what's your business plan? You're like, me, for the wage so I can hold a Noosa Lembongan every six months.
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Speaker 1: Could you imagine?
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Speaker 2: That is not an investment opportunity. That's funding. I'm like, that's a sugar daddy. You want a sugar daddy.
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Speaker 1: Pretty much. No, what I would like is I would like, say, $ 50, 000. So that I could start up some little travel places to go to, some venues.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Pay for that in advance to have the women come. People would come to do talks, discuss, you know, mentor. And then we'd have another little group of food safaris through Sydney. So I'd like a little van that I could put a wrap around.
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Speaker 2: Okay, the van. Great. So that's physical. Yep. So you've got your van.
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Speaker 1: I've got my van.
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Speaker 2: Would you need an office space? Probably not.
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'm not going to ask for an office space.
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Speaker 2: So it's, I think when you're getting investments, they need to see that they're going to get their money back plus X, Y, Z. Right.
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Speaker 1: Would they want more back or are they happy just to take?
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Speaker 2: Yes, that's the purpose of investing.
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Speaker 1: Oh, right.
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Speaker 2: So say I invested in Netflix in the very, very early stages, I'd be owning this villa right now. I'd probably have bought the island.
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Speaker 1: Which would be, remember back in the day when it was like a DVD or a video in your post box?
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Speaker 2: That was crazy. Now look at it.
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Speaker 1: I have no contacts.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 1: And, you know, who's going to give me $ 100, 000?
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Speaker 2: I would change out of the caftan, wear something a bit more low cut and find a wealthy older man that's sort of retired here.
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Speaker 1: Well, funny you should say that. Today I put my singlet on and I thought, no, I'm going to have body positivity. I'm going to move my body around Noosa. Oh, no.
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Speaker 2: You didn't walk past the temple, did you? Yeah. Very strict rules about.
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Speaker 1: I didn't go in.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: I looked back on my video. Oh, I won't be wearing that top out again.
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Speaker 2: Oh, no. Why?
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Speaker 1: Oh, because it was too low. The girls were in full view.
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Speaker 2: Were they lifted or were they separated?
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Speaker 1: Oh, they were separated, but I'll show you just so that you've got a full visual.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Stand by, please. Stand by one.
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Speaker 2: I will be uplifting and positive. No, I am very body positive. I don't think it matters. I don't think anyone cares.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I've got to be a bit respectful.
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Speaker 2: Of who?
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Speaker 1: Of the community.
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Speaker 2: Have you seen me walking around in... Oh, for fuck's sake. Christine!
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Speaker 1: Is that not too low?
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Speaker 2: Well, when you're calling it Lembogan... I hate it that I can't, but my bloody brain.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't get it right. Anyway, front line of movement today.
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Speaker 2: Okay. I'm going to do fashion police here. So, Christy's wearing her quintessential glasses and she's in a black, would you call that a singlet? Chocolate. Chocolate singlet. Thicker around the shoulder.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: And then the most amount of cleavage I've ever seen.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Looks totally fine though.
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Speaker 1: Oh, does it? Not disrespectful?
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Speaker 2: No, I don't think, well.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't wear it again. I'll have my little.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you could wear that in Australia easily.
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Speaker 1: Not here though.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: I think it's disrespectful.
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's, I don't know. Everyone's always covered and looks very.
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Speaker 1: They do.
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Speaker 2: To his fault.
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Speaker 1: But there were so many girls out there this morning with those really skimpy skimp.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of like, they're like, they all look like tiny ballerinas with fairy floss while wearing dental floss.
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Speaker 1: They are so, so.
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Speaker 2: I will say though, I mean, you're on a movement walk, so that's fine. But that would look nice.
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Speaker 1: With a big, loud necklace. You've stopped it in the most inappropriate place.
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Speaker 2: Well, it looks like you're kissing. Hello, kisses for Christine. No, I think you act really harsh on yourself.
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Speaker 1: But you're not, though, are you? I mean, you don't care.
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Speaker 2: No, I don't give a shit. Folds and rolls and I don't care. I mean, in this instance in Bali, when it culturally, I see what you mean.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I was told that the Balinese tend to not know where to look when they see tourists wearing bikinis or whatnot. Yes. Because I don't think they go in the water wearing.
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Speaker 1: I don't think they do.
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Speaker 2: No, I've never seen them get in the water. No. But back home, oh, God, yes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're very good.
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Speaker 2: And a lot of the time.
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Speaker 1: That's so good.
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Speaker 2: What I find difficult is in, and you would have seen it, my fat rolls envelop my swimming attire.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get asked that all the time. One of the one questions people ask me when they meet me and they go, oh, you get to hang out with Christian. Tell me, is he in the pool nude or is he in the water nude? Does he wear any swimmers?
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Speaker 2: Does he wear anything? No, his fat rolls envelop it all, so you can't quite see it. It's called a gunt. Oh, don't say that. And it's where your gut hangs over your cunt. Don't say that. Or in my case, it's a genus.
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Speaker 1: A genus.
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Speaker 2: Well, don't say it. That's what happens. It's getting less and less.
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Speaker 1: Oh, you're looking fabulous.
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Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm using the shirt that we bought at the markets that just fit.
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Speaker 1: As your guide?
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Speaker 2: And it's getting a tiny little bit looser. Tiny little bit.
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Speaker 1: Older you get, it's like, oh, who cares?
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Speaker 2: The less you care.
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Speaker 1: The less you care.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's the less you care about things... Well, you realise that they don't matter.
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Speaker 1: And I look at Charlie and he cares about everything.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: What he looks like, how he talks, who he's going to see, who he's, you know, everything. And it's like, oh, I don't care anymore. I really don't care.
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Speaker 2: But that's life experience.
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Speaker 1: But it's also to letting go of that control. Like what I mean by that is you're trying to control how people see you and perceive you, right? Yes. And it's like, you know what, it's none of my business what you think of me or how you see me, so I'm just going to be me. If you like me, you like me. If you don't, well, there's the door. Off you top.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I just wish I could get more into the body positivity stuff.
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Speaker 2: What's holding you back?
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Speaker 1: I've put on a little bit, and I hate talking about weight, but I have put on a little bit of weight since two years, and I hate it. I just don't feel me. I don't get to wear the clothes that I want to wear.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that feeling.
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Speaker 1: And I think people, not that I care what people think, but I like looking nice. I like looking really, fashion for me is all about empowerment. The better I feel dressed, the higher my attitude, confidence, it just all kind of ripples.
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Speaker 2: I would agree. I mean, I have worn the same shirt from Ganda for the last, because that's what I was my heaviest and it was the most comfortable shirt I felt in. And now I don't actually wear it. If you go through my socials, you'll see like a two or three year period. You know that shirt that everyone thinks is a tattoo?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It's a dark, it's got a lot of mandala patterns on it.
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Speaker 1: And I think there was a stage where people asked you, do you wear that same one every day? Do you wash it?
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, I have eight of them. I bought eight of them because it was loose, flowing. I looked good in it. I was 16 kilos heavier.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It was. It was a piece of fashion that made me feel nice. Yes. It was the only thing in my wardrobe where I felt that way, which is why I wore it.
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Speaker 1: And it's so important for your mental health.
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Speaker 2: And as I've lost more weight, all the clothes that I kept, which I know, don't keep them. But I was like, no, these shirts are so nice. And I've started to fit back into them. Oh.
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Speaker 1: See, doesn't that feel good?
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Speaker 2: You feel fucking great.
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Speaker 1: Because it gives you that little bit of a keep going.
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Speaker 2: I'm doing great.
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Speaker 1: I'm looking good.
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Speaker 2: It is. It's motivation.
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Speaker 1: Oh, totaling motivation. I know you mock me when I say this, but I like things. Injectables. Oh, yeah. I do like my injectables.
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Speaker 2: I don't mock you.
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Speaker 1: Do I mock you? Well, you did give me a little bit of a hard time the other day.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're in a foreign country wanting to get something injected into your face.
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Speaker 1: But the standards here are very, very good. You've got to go to the proper place.
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Speaker 2: I would just like to bring something up here.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: The standards here are very, very good. She read on a website of the place giving the injections, and I said to her, Oh, where did that recommendation come from? The website of the place? You looked at me like, yes, yeah, it did. I was like, of course they're going to say that, mate. They're not going to be like, we've killed 14 people. Oh, no.
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Speaker 1: If you could have any procedure done, what would you have?
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Speaker 2: I look at myself and I think, fucking wood bang. So hot.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gorgeous. Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: There isn't anything at this point. I'm sure it'll happen as I get older. And that's, you know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, becomes quite addictive, doesn't it?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it makes you feel really good about yourself.
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Speaker 1: And that's what you want. You want to feel good. I love that. What's her name? Brian Brown's wife, Rachel.
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Speaker 2: Rachel Brown?
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Speaker 1: No, she goes by another name. Potentially. I'll have to have a look it up. Anyway, she got on the socials not so long ago.
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Speaker 2: Oh, my God, yes. And no one recognised her and then they all called her old. Oh, they ripped into her.
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Speaker 1: And she was stunning.
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Speaker 2: I saw that.
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Speaker 1: They ripped in.
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Speaker 2: Is that Brian Brown's wife?
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: God, I love her. She did some gardening. She was like, I'm here gardening. And everyone was like, oh, my God.
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Speaker 1: And people absolutely ripped into her about her appearance and how, oh, God, you look so old.
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Speaker 2: And she came back and she goes, I am. She was like, look, this is just how women my age look. Yeah. I remember seeing her original video because I went back because I saw her go, guys. And then I was like, my God, she actually looks like she looks stunning.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Sure, she had wrinkles. She just didn't have nine faces, Botox lips.
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Speaker 1: And I wonder if that's now the expectation, that we have to look like we've got all the injectables all the time and then when you're out of the picture for a while and the photo of you appears, like people are so mean.
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Speaker 2: That's one thing I've noticed about living away from mum and dad is because I'm not seeing them constantly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You just notice it more. Yes. Like when Renee Zellweger disappeared for three years and she came back and everyone was like, oh, she looks so old. It's like, yes, she's three years older than when you last saw her.
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Speaker 1: And Goldie Hawn the other night on the Oscars, they were ripping into her.
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Speaker 2: Oh, why?
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Speaker 1: Because the way she was holding her tongue, the way she was behaving on.
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Speaker 2: God, I love her. I love her. But she's had her lips done, hasn't she, for years?
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Speaker 1: I just think we hold women to such a higher standard than men. I mean, this is an old story, but, like, you know, you've got your silver foxes, like your Richard Gere's and, you know, all of those older styles. Oh, distinguished gentleman.
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Speaker 2: It's always daddy.
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Speaker 1: Beautiful, so handsome. And then a woman will come in, like Rachel, and she'll be on the farm. She's doing her best. She's looking fabulous for a woman of her age. And I hate saying it like that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't say it then.
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Speaker 1: Because it does. But for a woman that is more mature … And they rip into her. So you wouldn't have anything done.
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Speaker 2: No. What do you want?
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Speaker 1: Oh, let me give you the list.
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Speaker 2: You're like, well, I've booked myself in for the following.
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Speaker 1: I would like an upper lid.
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Speaker 2: Blephioplasty. Blephioplasty. I think that's what it's called because that's all the rage now.
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Speaker 1: I want that done because I've got saggy eyes and I can't wear eyeshadow and I'd like to wear a bit of eyeshadow.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: So I'd like that done. I would like injectables here in my laugh lines that go down my gel.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 1: Just down here. Just give that a little pull. See how.
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Speaker 2: Now let go. Oh, yeah. Wow. Jesus. No.
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Speaker 1: It's true, though.
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Speaker 2: You're beautiful either way.
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Speaker 1: Of course I am. However, I would like to have that not so creased.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: I want a neck lift. A ball clip.
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Speaker 2: I just, you know. You know what Dad used to do in the photos of Mum? She'd be like, John! He'd put his arm around her neck and just pull her neck tight. Oh, really? Yeah.
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Speaker 1: That's what I want you to do for me from now on.
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Speaker 2: Because you've lost quite a bit of weight. Oh, yes. Yeah. And so naturally your.
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Speaker 1: Neck's just going to be... I was about 130 kilos. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Good on you for getting... That's not easy to do.
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Speaker 1: That's self-loathing at its very best. Oh. No, I'm joking.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: No, overeating, laziness and comfort eating.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Just before... we go, I was surprised that when you suggested India for our next podcast destination that you didn't say the T word. Turkey. Turkey. Because everyone's going to Turkey for everything.
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Speaker 1: Oh, and I get my teeth done. I definitely get my teeth done. My bottom teeth I dislike intensely.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Show me them.
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Speaker 1: They are higgledy-piggledy.
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Speaker 2: A little bit crowded there. That's it.
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Speaker 1: I'd like to get veneers or braces.
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Speaker 2: Oh, God. You know, I'm not going to lie. I love the idea of going to Turkey.
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Speaker 1: Oh, so would I.
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Speaker 2: Because Turkey, beautiful. I wonder, is Macedonia near Turkey?
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Speaker 1: Let's have a look on the map.
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Speaker 2: I would prefer to go to Turkey than India.
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Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. I'll get my turkey teeth. That's what they call them.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if I could allow you to get anything done while we were there.
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Speaker 1: The amount of places. Don't you see them all advertised?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I see the horror stories. God, but you do see some fucking life-changing facelifts. Yes. Did you see that woman? She had, like, no followers on TikTok. And she's like, oh, I'm going to go. She was 55. Right. I'm just going to go and get a facelift. She went from 55, I kid you not, to 35. She blew up. She went mega-vote because it was like, what the fuck?
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 2: And it was amazing. Crazy.
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Speaker 1: Yep. I would do it. Now, look, don't get me wrong. Hand on heart. If you're happy with the way you look as a woman out there in the community, good for you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: That's great. That's your choice. Yeah. But my choice, if I had one, was if I could have a few little procedures, I would be there front of the line.
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Speaker 2: If something went wrong, though, I would feel solely responsible.
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Speaker 1: Well, no, because it's my choice. My body, my choice. I can choose to do whatever I want.
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Speaker 2: It'll probably be on the Christian Hill MX card.
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Speaker 1: Is that wrong?
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Speaker 2: The operation probably won't be.
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Speaker 1: Is that wrong?
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Speaker 2: If I'm taking us to Turkey and then you're getting stuff done, I'm going to feel really responsible.
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Speaker 1: Oh, you need not. I'm 55 identifying as 49.
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Speaker 2: I'm a big girl. I don't want you to get your teeth shaved.
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Speaker 1: No, I want veneers.
Speaker 1: A Poche Production.
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Speaker 2: On this episode of We Will Always Have... She went from 55, I kid you not, to 35. What the fuck?
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 2: This is season six of We Will Always Have with me, Christian Hull, and the gorgeous Chrissie Herm. We're in Bali doing a spiritual retreat and also on a little bit of a sojourn. Two weeks we go away. We've done a variety of incredible activities and we really hope that we can impart some sort of wisdom or guidance in this season. So please enjoy.
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Speaker 1: I was just saying ever so quietly. The size of the mosquitoes out here, how are you coping with them?
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Speaker 2: I've not seen a single one.
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Speaker 1: Oh, mate, they're all.
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Speaker 2: Over my legs.
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Speaker 1: I've got the biggest bites on my legs.
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Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 1: They are absolutely munching away. I feel like a mess. I feel like sometimes I'm very put together. Like when I go out, like appearance-wise, I'm very groomed.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: I've got makeup on. Yes. I've got my nails on. I've got my gloss.
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Speaker 2: Physically, you look put together.
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Speaker 1: I look very put together.
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Speaker 2: Mentally and emotionally. Oh, no. Different story. Very much.
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Speaker 1: I feel like something the cat's dragged in. My hair, the water over here is so hard. I conditioned this. Feel it.
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Speaker 2: Feel it. Oh, it feels like fairy floss. how it's very dry very dry so so dry so when your hair is is dyed pink do they magenta magenta do they strip the living daylights out.
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Speaker 1: Of it no not at all no what's your natural hair color white i'm very very very very white now so why is it so dry because of the water really it's because the hair's bleached no because it's the water.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah oh my god i'm running my Yeah, it's sort of, oh, I shampooed this too.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: It's very.
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Speaker 1: I shampooed mine last night.
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Speaker 2: It's like sticky. It's like coarse.
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Speaker 1: Very coarse.
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Speaker 2: It sticks to your hand.
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Speaker 1: Yes, very, very, very coarse. And I'm not wearing any makeup and I'm sweating like I profusely like drips. I just look like something the cat's dragging.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter though. Look where we are.
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Speaker 1: Oh, it doesn't matter whatsoever. But I've got a certain standard. Like, do you have a standard when you go out, you like to look a certain way?
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Speaker 2: Oh, Charlie, how much more does he need?
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Speaker 1: That's Lele. Stand by, please. Oh, okay.
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Speaker 2: Can you read this one out? No, I won't read it out. Yeah, don't read that one out. Lele is, we met Lele on our retreat, our spiritual journey, and Christine made a new best friend forever. Forever. Both similar ages, both similar personalities, and Lele is the one that I'm not upset with her, but Christine... She just gives me that really disappointed look of a morning and looks at me and goes, oh, yeah, how'd you sleep? And I can tell she's thinking, fuck, I wish you were Lele. Did she give you an update? Did she have a rager last night? Did she?
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Speaker 1: I don't know if she'd really want me to read it out to you.
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Speaker 2: Can I look? Yes.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Let's see here. Oh, no, she is you. Oh, my God, she's you.
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Speaker 1: She's me.
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Speaker 2: She didn't have a wild night. She had a few health issues. Very similar to the ones you had yesterday before we got on the boat.
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Speaker 1: And today.
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Speaker 2: Oh, no.
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Speaker 1: I have to trot something shocking. Both marches that I had this morning with my oat, straight through. Straight through.
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Speaker 2: Maybe it was oat. It was definitely oat.
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Speaker 1: No, it was oat. Honestly, the place.
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Speaker 2: You feel like a mess. I do.
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Speaker 1: I feel like an absolute mess. Hello. Lovely gentleman looking up at me. As he walked up, he was looking up at me. I feel a mess. I do. I feel like a mess.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think we've just had such a, well, I've had a full-on week.
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Speaker 1: Well, you've come into your own. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: This week. Yeah, I had a really good call with mum this morning. And that's just a conversation that I've just not had with mum for years. Yeah, it was really lovely. It was just like not surface level conversation. Like, how's the weather? How's your knee? Oh, yes, I'm getting a sponsored post. Yes, the packages are still there. It was like deep, meaningful. And it was just really nice. I told her about the reading I had with Amanda and how the first thing Amanda said was, you know, I'm getting a grandmother figure with Elle. And mum didn't put the pieces together. I was like, and then as soon as she said that, I was like, oh, my God. And then mum goes, Elle? Oh, yes, because we've always called it Nan. Yeah. She's like, oh, shit. I said, wow. And then I told her about her, prawning, and she laughed.
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Speaker 1: Isn't that beautiful?
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Speaker 2: God, that's insane.
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Speaker 1: That's incredible, isn't it?
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Speaker 2: And then mum told me she had the gift.
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Speaker 1: Which is something you weren't.
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Speaker 2: Aware of previously? She didn't specifically say it as that. Well, she just said, I've always had, like, strong feelings forever. Like, really good intuition, which is true.
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Speaker 1: Do you think that's mother's intuition? Or do you reckon?
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Speaker 2: It could absolutely be.
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Speaker 1: I would say some people would say it was mother's intuition.
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Speaker 2: Isn't that a feeling though? Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Oh, definitely.
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Speaker 2: Because there were two examples. One that she was like, don't you remember when I was being really persistent with your brother about X, Y and Z? I was like, oh yeah, you were. I knew something was going to happen. I knew he was going to find the love of his life, get married and he needed to sort his shit out before he met her. And I knew it was coming. And I was like, sort your shit. And she sort of.
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Speaker 1: What does she push you to do?
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Speaker 2: Does she push you to do anything? Look, there was no. If I stop and think about it, maybe. But there was one conversation that we had, bang on, 10 years ago. She sat me down and I was about to enter a new job and a new space and everything. She goes, no, I don't have a good feeling about this.
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 2: And at that point I was like so invested and like so keen. And I was like, this is going to change my life. I was like, here and this and this. I'm like, this is the best. And, you know, got more money. The job was a lot more expensive. Like, it was really great.
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Speaker 1: And what did you do when she told you, I.
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Speaker 2: Don't think this is it? I was like, oh, mum, you don't know. You've not worked in the radio industry. I was like, oh, look, it's, no, it's different. Like, no, it'll be fine. It'll be great. Sure enough, seven months later, it was the worst decision I'd made in my life.
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Speaker 1: There you go. So she knew.
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Speaker 2: And I remember going. Shit, mum specifically said. All the things that happened, happened.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you're telling me about that actually. So there you go.
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Speaker 2: And then recently I was catching up, I was staying with my brother. He was like, do you remember how mum used to always harp on about X, Y and Z and all that globalisation, all these weird, she used to go off on her tangents about shit. Yeah. And like this is going to happen in the world and this is what this is going to lead to and blah, blah, blah. I was like, oh yeah, God, mum always does that. And he goes, well, do you know what she said? I'm like, sort of. And then he rattled through it and he was like, she was completely right. This led to this, which led to this, which led to this. And now we're fucked. And this has gone here. And this has happened. And, you know, people, blah, blah, blah. And Nick's like, we just take mum as a crazy person off on our ramblings.
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Speaker 1: But I think kids do that with their mums, though.
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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
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Speaker 1: They don't tend to take on it. It's like, oh, mum, you're just being overprotective.
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Speaker 2: Oh, mum, you're just holding your different generation.
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Speaker 1: Oh, mum, you have no idea.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then, like, I get to almost 40 and life experience is such a key part in life. Right, so you can't really tell your kids, I know best, because.
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Speaker 1: No, they need to do it themselves.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they do.
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Speaker 1: They need to find their own little ways.
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Speaker 2: I haven't had a conversation like that with Mum for so long, and I'm like, oh, I miss this.
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Speaker 1: Oh, see, that's great.
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Speaker 2: Why don't you get investors, but you're still social?
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Speaker 1: But what are they investing in?
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Speaker 2: Christine, they're investing in you.
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Speaker 1: But what would I charge them? What would I say?
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Speaker 2: Hello, I'm building a business called Still Social. It's for women 50 or 40 plus.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 2: And we're going to be doing this and this is the business strategy and plan and this is how it will generate an income and a revenue and there's a gap in the market or there's this.
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Speaker 1: Crying out for that.
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Speaker 2: Definite gap in the market. This is what I want. This is what I need. Are you willing to come on board? Here are your packages.
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Speaker 1: I would like, I'll just put it out there, I would like $ 500, 000. Is that too much?
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Speaker 2: Well, i think you need to know what charlie's charlie's charlie's donations to the rspca yes you remind me so much of a friend of emmy lou you know emmy lou yes yeah she would have these absolute incredible grand ideas right and i would sit there and go logistically like.
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Speaker 1: How do you do that you gotta have 500 000 for what For me, for the business.
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Speaker 2: What would you give?
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Speaker 1: No, no, no.
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Speaker 2: If I'm an investor and you go, I would like $ 500, 000. Yes. And I would go, cool, what's your business plan? You're like, me, for the wage so I can hold a Noosa Lembongan every six months.
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Speaker 1: Could you imagine?
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Speaker 2: That is not an investment opportunity. That's funding. I'm like, that's a sugar daddy. You want a sugar daddy.
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Speaker 1: Pretty much. No, what I would like is I would like, say, $ 50, 000. So that I could start up some little travel places to go to, some venues.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Pay for that in advance to have the women come. People would come to do talks, discuss, you know, mentor. And then we'd have another little group of food safaris through Sydney. So I'd like a little van that I could put a wrap around.
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Speaker 2: Okay, the van. Great. So that's physical. Yep. So you've got your van.
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Speaker 1: I've got my van.
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Speaker 2: Would you need an office space? Probably not.
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'm not going to ask for an office space.
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Speaker 2: So it's, I think when you're getting investments, they need to see that they're going to get their money back plus X, Y, Z. Right.
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Speaker 1: Would they want more back or are they happy just to take?
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Speaker 2: Yes, that's the purpose of investing.
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Speaker 1: Oh, right.
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Speaker 2: So say I invested in Netflix in the very, very early stages, I'd be owning this villa right now. I'd probably have bought the island.
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Speaker 1: Which would be, remember back in the day when it was like a DVD or a video in your post box?
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Speaker 2: That was crazy. Now look at it.
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Speaker 1: I have no contacts.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 1: And, you know, who's going to give me $ 100, 000?
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Speaker 2: I would change out of the caftan, wear something a bit more low cut and find a wealthy older man that's sort of retired here.
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Speaker 1: Well, funny you should say that. Today I put my singlet on and I thought, no, I'm going to have body positivity. I'm going to move my body around Noosa. Oh, no.
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Speaker 2: You didn't walk past the temple, did you? Yeah. Very strict rules about.
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Speaker 1: I didn't go in.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: I looked back on my video. Oh, I won't be wearing that top out again.
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Speaker 2: Oh, no. Why?
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Speaker 1: Oh, because it was too low. The girls were in full view.
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Speaker 2: Were they lifted or were they separated?
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Speaker 1: Oh, they were separated, but I'll show you just so that you've got a full visual.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Stand by, please. Stand by one.
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Speaker 2: I will be uplifting and positive. No, I am very body positive. I don't think it matters. I don't think anyone cares.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I've got to be a bit respectful.
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Speaker 2: Of who?
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Speaker 1: Of the community.
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Speaker 2: Have you seen me walking around in... Oh, for fuck's sake. Christine!
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Speaker 1: Is that not too low?
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Speaker 2: Well, when you're calling it Lembogan... I hate it that I can't, but my bloody brain.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't get it right. Anyway, front line of movement today.
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Speaker 2: Okay. I'm going to do fashion police here. So, Christy's wearing her quintessential glasses and she's in a black, would you call that a singlet? Chocolate. Chocolate singlet. Thicker around the shoulder.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: And then the most amount of cleavage I've ever seen.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Looks totally fine though.
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Speaker 1: Oh, does it? Not disrespectful?
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Speaker 2: No, I don't think, well.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't wear it again. I'll have my little.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you could wear that in Australia easily.
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Speaker 1: Not here though.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: I think it's disrespectful.
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's, I don't know. Everyone's always covered and looks very.
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Speaker 1: They do.
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Speaker 2: To his fault.
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Speaker 1: But there were so many girls out there this morning with those really skimpy skimp.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of like, they're like, they all look like tiny ballerinas with fairy floss while wearing dental floss.
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Speaker 1: They are so, so.
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Speaker 2: I will say though, I mean, you're on a movement walk, so that's fine. But that would look nice.
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Speaker 1: With a big, loud necklace. You've stopped it in the most inappropriate place.
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Speaker 2: Well, it looks like you're kissing. Hello, kisses for Christine. No, I think you act really harsh on yourself.
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Speaker 1: But you're not, though, are you? I mean, you don't care.
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Speaker 2: No, I don't give a shit. Folds and rolls and I don't care. I mean, in this instance in Bali, when it culturally, I see what you mean.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I was told that the Balinese tend to not know where to look when they see tourists wearing bikinis or whatnot. Yes. Because I don't think they go in the water wearing.
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Speaker 1: I don't think they do.
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Speaker 2: No, I've never seen them get in the water. No. But back home, oh, God, yes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're very good.
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Speaker 2: And a lot of the time.
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Speaker 1: That's so good.
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Speaker 2: What I find difficult is in, and you would have seen it, my fat rolls envelop my swimming attire.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get asked that all the time. One of the one questions people ask me when they meet me and they go, oh, you get to hang out with Christian. Tell me, is he in the pool nude or is he in the water nude? Does he wear any swimmers?
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Speaker 2: Does he wear anything? No, his fat rolls envelop it all, so you can't quite see it. It's called a gunt. Oh, don't say that. And it's where your gut hangs over your cunt. Don't say that. Or in my case, it's a genus.
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Speaker 1: A genus.
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Speaker 2: Well, don't say it. That's what happens. It's getting less and less.
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Speaker 1: Oh, you're looking fabulous.
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Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm using the shirt that we bought at the markets that just fit.
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Speaker 1: As your guide?
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Speaker 2: And it's getting a tiny little bit looser. Tiny little bit.
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Speaker 1: Older you get, it's like, oh, who cares?
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Speaker 2: The less you care.
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Speaker 1: The less you care.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's the less you care about things... Well, you realise that they don't matter.
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Speaker 1: And I look at Charlie and he cares about everything.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: What he looks like, how he talks, who he's going to see, who he's, you know, everything. And it's like, oh, I don't care anymore. I really don't care.
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Speaker 2: But that's life experience.
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Speaker 1: But it's also to letting go of that control. Like what I mean by that is you're trying to control how people see you and perceive you, right? Yes. And it's like, you know what, it's none of my business what you think of me or how you see me, so I'm just going to be me. If you like me, you like me. If you don't, well, there's the door. Off you top.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I just wish I could get more into the body positivity stuff.
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Speaker 2: What's holding you back?
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Speaker 1: I've put on a little bit, and I hate talking about weight, but I have put on a little bit of weight since two years, and I hate it. I just don't feel me. I don't get to wear the clothes that I want to wear.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that feeling.
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Speaker 1: And I think people, not that I care what people think, but I like looking nice. I like looking really, fashion for me is all about empowerment. The better I feel dressed, the higher my attitude, confidence, it just all kind of ripples.
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Speaker 2: I would agree. I mean, I have worn the same shirt from Ganda for the last, because that's what I was my heaviest and it was the most comfortable shirt I felt in. And now I don't actually wear it. If you go through my socials, you'll see like a two or three year period. You know that shirt that everyone thinks is a tattoo?
00:14:39
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:14:40
Speaker 2: It's a dark, it's got a lot of mandala patterns on it.
00:14:42
Speaker 1: And I think there was a stage where people asked you, do you wear that same one every day? Do you wash it?
00:14:47
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I have eight of them. I bought eight of them because it was loose, flowing. I looked good in it. I was 16 kilos heavier.
00:14:55
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:14:56
Speaker 2: It was. It was a piece of fashion that made me feel nice. Yes. It was the only thing in my wardrobe where I felt that way, which is why I wore it.
00:15:03
Speaker 1: And it's so important for your mental health.
00:15:05
Speaker 2: And as I've lost more weight, all the clothes that I kept, which I know, don't keep them. But I was like, no, these shirts are so nice. And I've started to fit back into them. Oh.
00:15:15
Speaker 1: See, doesn't that feel good?
00:15:16
Speaker 2: You feel fucking great.
00:15:18
Speaker 1: Because it gives you that little bit of a keep going.
00:15:20
Speaker 2: I'm doing great.
00:15:21
Speaker 1: I'm looking good.
00:15:23
Speaker 2: It is. It's motivation.
00:15:24
Speaker 1: Oh, totaling motivation. I know you mock me when I say this, but I like things. Injectables. Oh, yeah. I do like my injectables.
00:15:32
Speaker 2: I don't mock you.
00:15:33
Speaker 1: Do I mock you? Well, you did give me a little bit of a hard time the other day.
00:15:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're in a foreign country wanting to get something injected into your face.
00:15:40
Speaker 1: But the standards here are very, very good. You've got to go to the proper place.
00:15:45
Speaker 2: I would just like to bring something up here.
00:15:47
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:15:47
Speaker 2: The standards here are very, very good. She read on a website of the place giving the injections, and I said to her, Oh, where did that recommendation come from? The website of the place? You looked at me like, yes, yeah, it did. I was like, of course they're going to say that, mate. They're not going to be like, we've killed 14 people. Oh, no.
00:16:04
Speaker 1: If you could have any procedure done, what would you have?
00:16:07
Speaker 2: I look at myself and I think, fucking wood bang. So hot.
00:16:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gorgeous. Absolutely.
00:16:13
Speaker 2: There isn't anything at this point. I'm sure it'll happen as I get older. And that's, you know.
00:16:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, becomes quite addictive, doesn't it?
00:16:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it makes you feel really good about yourself.
00:16:32
Speaker 1: And that's what you want. You want to feel good. I love that. What's her name? Brian Brown's wife, Rachel.
00:16:39
Speaker 2: Rachel Brown?
00:16:41
Speaker 1: No, she goes by another name. Potentially. I'll have to have a look it up. Anyway, she got on the socials not so long ago.
00:16:47
Speaker 2: Oh, my God, yes. And no one recognised her and then they all called her old. Oh, they ripped into her.
00:16:51
Speaker 1: And she was stunning.
00:16:52
Speaker 2: I saw that.
00:16:53
Speaker 1: They ripped in.
00:16:53
Speaker 2: Is that Brian Brown's wife?
00:16:55
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:16:55
Speaker 2: God, I love her. She did some gardening. She was like, I'm here gardening. And everyone was like, oh, my God.
00:17:00
Speaker 1: And people absolutely ripped into her about her appearance and how, oh, God, you look so old.
00:17:06
Speaker 2: And she came back and she goes, I am. She was like, look, this is just how women my age look. Yeah. I remember seeing her original video because I went back because I saw her go, guys. And then I was like, my God, she actually looks like she looks stunning.
00:17:20
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:17:21
Speaker 2: Sure, she had wrinkles. She just didn't have nine faces, Botox lips.
00:17:25
Speaker 1: And I wonder if that's now the expectation, that we have to look like we've got all the injectables all the time and then when you're out of the picture for a while and the photo of you appears, like people are so mean.
00:17:39
Speaker 2: That's one thing I've noticed about living away from mum and dad is because I'm not seeing them constantly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You just notice it more. Yes. Like when Renee Zellweger disappeared for three years and she came back and everyone was like, oh, she looks so old. It's like, yes, she's three years older than when you last saw her.
00:17:54
Speaker 1: And Goldie Hawn the other night on the Oscars, they were ripping into her.
00:17:59
Speaker 2: Oh, why?
00:17:59
Speaker 1: Because the way she was holding her tongue, the way she was behaving on.
00:18:04
Speaker 2: God, I love her. I love her. But she's had her lips done, hasn't she, for years?
00:18:08
Speaker 1: I just think we hold women to such a higher standard than men. I mean, this is an old story, but, like, you know, you've got your silver foxes, like your Richard Gere's and, you know, all of those older styles. Oh, distinguished gentleman.
00:18:22
Speaker 2: It's always daddy.
00:18:23
Speaker 1: Beautiful, so handsome. And then a woman will come in, like Rachel, and she'll be on the farm. She's doing her best. She's looking fabulous for a woman of her age. And I hate saying it like that.
00:18:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't say it then.
00:18:34
Speaker 1: Because it does. But for a woman that is more mature … And they rip into her. So you wouldn't have anything done.
00:18:41
Speaker 2: No. What do you want?
00:18:43
Speaker 1: Oh, let me give you the list.
00:18:45
Speaker 2: You're like, well, I've booked myself in for the following.
00:18:47
Speaker 1: I would like an upper lid.
00:18:49
Speaker 2: Blephioplasty. Blephioplasty. I think that's what it's called because that's all the rage now.
00:18:53
Speaker 1: I want that done because I've got saggy eyes and I can't wear eyeshadow and I'd like to wear a bit of eyeshadow.
00:18:59
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:18:59
Speaker 1: So I'd like that done. I would like injectables here in my laugh lines that go down my gel.
00:19:05
Speaker 2: Yep.
00:19:06
Speaker 1: Just down here. Just give that a little pull. See how.
00:19:09
Speaker 2: Now let go. Oh, yeah. Wow. Jesus. No.
00:19:12
Speaker 1: It's true, though.
00:19:12
Speaker 2: You're beautiful either way.
00:19:13
Speaker 1: Of course I am. However, I would like to have that not so creased.
00:19:19
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:19:20
Speaker 1: I want a neck lift. A ball clip.
00:19:24
Speaker 2: I just, you know. You know what Dad used to do in the photos of Mum? She'd be like, John! He'd put his arm around her neck and just pull her neck tight. Oh, really? Yeah.
00:19:32
Speaker 1: That's what I want you to do for me from now on.
00:19:34
Speaker 2: Because you've lost quite a bit of weight. Oh, yes. Yeah. And so naturally your.
00:19:38
Speaker 1: Neck's just going to be... I was about 130 kilos. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:19:42
Speaker 2: Good on you for getting... That's not easy to do.
00:19:45
Speaker 1: That's self-loathing at its very best. Oh. No, I'm joking.
00:19:50
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:19:50
Speaker 1: No, overeating, laziness and comfort eating.
00:19:54
Speaker 2: Yeah. Just before... we go, I was surprised that when you suggested India for our next podcast destination that you didn't say the T word. Turkey. Turkey. Because everyone's going to Turkey for everything.
00:20:07
Speaker 1: Oh, and I get my teeth done. I definitely get my teeth done. My bottom teeth I dislike intensely.
00:20:12
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Show me them.
00:20:13
Speaker 1: They are higgledy-piggledy.
00:20:16
Speaker 2: A little bit crowded there. That's it.
00:20:17
Speaker 1: I'd like to get veneers or braces.
00:20:19
Speaker 2: Oh, God. You know, I'm not going to lie. I love the idea of going to Turkey.
00:20:24
Speaker 1: Oh, so would I.
00:20:25
Speaker 2: Because Turkey, beautiful. I wonder, is Macedonia near Turkey?
00:20:28
Speaker 1: Let's have a look on the map.
00:20:29
Speaker 2: I would prefer to go to Turkey than India.
00:20:31
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. I'll get my turkey teeth. That's what they call them.
00:20:36
Speaker 2: I don't know if I could allow you to get anything done while we were there.
00:20:40
Speaker 1: The amount of places. Don't you see them all advertised?
00:20:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I see the horror stories. God, but you do see some fucking life-changing facelifts. Yes. Did you see that woman? She had, like, no followers on TikTok. And she's like, oh, I'm going to go. She was 55. Right. I'm just going to go and get a facelift. She went from 55, I kid you not, to 35. She blew up. She went mega-vote because it was like, what the fuck?
00:21:09
Speaker 1: Yep.
00:21:09
Speaker 2: And it was amazing. Crazy.
00:21:12
Speaker 1: Yep. I would do it. Now, look, don't get me wrong. Hand on heart. If you're happy with the way you look as a woman out there in the community, good for you.
00:21:20
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:21:21
Speaker 1: That's great. That's your choice. Yeah. But my choice, if I had one, was if I could have a few little procedures, I would be there front of the line.
00:21:29
Speaker 2: If something went wrong, though, I would feel solely responsible.
00:21:32
Speaker 1: Well, no, because it's my choice. My body, my choice. I can choose to do whatever I want.
00:21:37
Speaker 2: It'll probably be on the Christian Hill MX card.
00:21:40
Speaker 1: Is that wrong?
00:21:40
Speaker 2: The operation probably won't be.
00:21:42
Speaker 1: Is that wrong?
00:21:42
Speaker 2: If I'm taking us to Turkey and then you're getting stuff done, I'm going to feel really responsible.
00:21:47
Speaker 1: Oh, you need not. I'm 55 identifying as 49.
00:21:50
Speaker 2: I'm a big girl. I don't want you to get your teeth shaved.
00:21:53
Speaker 1: No, I want veneers.
