From Cattle Ranch to UFO Watchtower: Making Room for Stories | Judy Messoline

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I just like to have interesting people on the show
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and talk about their stories, have interesting discussions. And today
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is going to be this exact same thing. Somebody very
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interesting who I've been following their work and I ran
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into her work through the Vice documentary. So I was
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laying in bed watching Vice on YouTube the other night
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what she does. And it's going to be a very
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exciting episode. So today's guest is none other than Judy Messelin. Judy,
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welcome to the show. How are you?
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Thank you. I'm great. How are you?
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I'm doing really good. Thanks for coming on and spending
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a little time with me hanging out and talking about
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your story.
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You're more than welcome.
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All right. So Judy is in Hooper, Colorado. And I
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guess what she's noted for right now, all the documentaries,
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the interviews and things like that, is talking about the
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UFO Watchtower. And she has a website, which is UFOWatchtower.com.
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So talk a little bit about that. What is that?
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A UFO watchtower?
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Um, I moved to the Valley, San Luis Valley in
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1995 to raise cattle. But from the time I'd moved here,
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all I heard were UFO stories from the locals. And
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I just giggle and say, we need a UFO watchtower.
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Never thinking I would ever do it. Um, I struggled
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with cows for four and a half years because they
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don't eat sand real well. And it got to the
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point I just didn't have the money to feed them anymore.
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So I had to sell the herd. I was working
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at the gas station up in Hooper, and one of
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the farmers was in one day. And I was telling
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him about my dilemma. I said I had to sell
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the cows, but I don't want to sell my land.
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And he said, well, you need to put up that
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UFO watchtower. You'd have fun. So I did. It's a
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dome building, has a platform that goes around it. When
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you get up, and the platform's only 10 feet high.
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But when you're already at 7,600 feet, you don't need
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to be much higher. But it gets you up off
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the lay of the land. And when you get up
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on the tower, you've got a 360-degree view of the valley.
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Thus far, we've had 145 UFO sightings from the tower
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since we opened in 2000. I personally have seen 27
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of them. And just phenomenal. And you have to think
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about it from the standpoint from I had never seen
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anything prior to opening. I never expected to. Then we
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started having the sightings and I'm going, oh my God,
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what have I been missing out on? But we've had
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daytime sightings as well as nighttime and we've seen actual
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ships as well as the strange lights. it's been quite
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the experience, I'll tell you that. And I can't believe
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that this has been going now for 17 years. It
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has just blown my mind. And I said, where did
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the time go?
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As I'm reading your bio here, it's talking about what
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kind of got you interested in some of this stuff
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was watching a lot of TV, watching the television show
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sightings and watching X-Files and And then hearing these different
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memes and things that are going on in the television
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shows or even in the music and the movies and stuff,
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you start to put things together. And it almost seems
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like these people who are writing these movies or writing
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these shows, they know something that we don't. And when
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we pick up on this stuff and start putting the
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pieces together, we start finding out that they were on
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to something.
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So.
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Is it something about the location, because you kept hearing
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about great sand dunes, San Luis Valley, and things like that.
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Is it something about the location that you believe is special?
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Yes. They've had documented UFO sightings in the valley since
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about the 1560s. The conquistadors wrote in their journals what
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they had seen. There's all kinds of ideas of why here.
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Some say it's the spirituality of the valley. The Native
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Americans consider the valley floor sacred. They wouldn't fight on
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the valley floor. They'd have their peace talks on the
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valley floor. Some say that there's an ET base over
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in Mount Blanca. It could be there's lots of activity
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over there. And we have actually seen planes fly into
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that mountain. So I don't know what's in there, but
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maybe someday we'll find out. Others say it's the vastness
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of the valley because it's so large and not highly populated.
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I was reading a magazine from Great Britain, and it
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said that the majority of their sightings was where there
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were hot water wells. That makes sense to me because
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we have the geothermal water from one end of the
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valley to the other. So what somebody would need from
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another world with the geothermal water, I don't know unless
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they're following the fault line, which that makes sense as well.
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So talking about a UFO watchtower and creating almost a
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UFO sanctuary, like this special place that you can come to,
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to have an encounter, to meet with the divine, because
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I know you guys tie spirituality in with it, which
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is so beautiful. When I started having my experiences going
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out sky watching and seeing craft and seeing ships or
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what we could call ships that seem to be alive
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and seem to morph and change and travel back and
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forth from what we call heaven to earth and seeing
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all of these things that just blows your mind. When
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I started having these encounters, I had a crew of
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guys over here and we went to work on my
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backyard and we cut down all the trees so that
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I had a clear view of the night sky in
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my backyard. And Essentially created my own UFO sanctuary that
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we can go and meditate and watch the sky and
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you know try to make contact essentially asking for a
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sighting um so that's that's what kind of you know
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i'm saying drew me to your work as well it's
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like okay you actually did it you you built it
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you took the time to do that and it's awesome
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that you're doing it and you actually let people come
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in people come in and stay i know you guys
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do bed and breakfast and stuff like that as well right.
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Correct we have a campground um And I'll tell you
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what's really been cool about this whole thing is that
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we have found that people who have had experiences, they
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can come and talk to them with us and we
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don't make fun of them. You know, where if they
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go to the general public and try to say, well,
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I saw such and such, and somebody will say, what
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were you drinking or what were you smoking? You know,
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and we don't do that. We have very open minds.
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And we hopefully want people who come to have an
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open mind as well. Now, personally, I think that the
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people from another world, I think they're in a different
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dimension than we are. And that's why they can pop
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in and out at will. And whether that's true or not,
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I don't know. But it sure makes sense how they
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can be there one second and gone the next.
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I get this notion from just studying the way things
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work in the, in the world and the government and
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stuff like that. And seeing, and seeing videos from outer
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space of laser beams being shot from earth and being
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shot up at the stars or at moving objects in space.
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And then those objects will turn around and leave when
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a laser beam is shot up at them. Very compelling footage.
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I get the notion that, and I want to say,
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if you agree with this, um, That some of these ships,
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when they come in, you know, the government doesn't want
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us to see these guys where they will try to send.
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I've seen I've seen UFOs during the day and they
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were there. They told me to look at it with
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some telepathic communication that said, hey, look over here. This
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is where this plane is flying. I look over and
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where a jet was flying was right towards a UFO
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that was just posed there, a sphere in the middle
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of the day. As soon as I seen it, I said,
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is that a UFO? It disappeared. It let me see it,
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and then it left. I have this feeling that the
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government doesn't want us to know that they're there and
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doesn't want us to make contact. Do you have any
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information on that?
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No, but I really feel that you're on the right track.
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We've seen them as well. In fact, I saw one
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one time. It was following a jetliner, and this silver
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orb appeared behind the jetliner and was bouncing off the
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jet stream. And all of a sudden, it's gone. You know,
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it's the same when you make, oh, you call the
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media and you say, hey, we just had a UFO sighting.
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And boy, they put it on their newscast and everything.
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And then you never hear about it again. And I
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think these folks are hushed up by the government. The
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government doesn't want us to know what's going on, which
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is kind of a pit. Because if, in fact, they
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are there, and if, in fact, they are trying to help,
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why does not the government, why don't they pursue that?
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Why don't they let them help us?
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Yeah, that really is the the dilemma. And if they,
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if they are the good guys, cause I really believe
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that the craft that are out there are the good guys.
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Like every interaction I've had, the people that I'm involved
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with and people who are going out pursuing contact of
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the fifth kind, the CE5 initiatives to go out in
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an open field, to meditate and to pray, to get
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oneself prepared, to have an encounter. And a lot of
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people do, it does take time. You have to wait.
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And just like fishing almost, like I think if you
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go out fishing, you can't just kind of, you know,
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cast your reel in and pull something right back out.
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It's kind of the same thing. And I like to
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relate it to fishing because there's so much, there's so
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much out there in space. Just like if we was
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to look at the ocean of all of the different beings,
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all of the different creatures, some of that we've never, we're,
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we're discovering even after the hurricanes, washing these weird looking
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space creatures onto the ocean, onto the beach from the
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ocean and, which we've never seen before. And there's all
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types of stuff out there. So when we look into
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the ocean, it's almost the same thing as gazing into
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the heavens where there's all types of beings, spirits and
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entities and angels and things like that that are spoken
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of in the holy books. Like if we're talking about angels,
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there's rankings, there's orders, there's the Bible calls it the
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host of heaven. And the host is the armies of
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heaven and the fleet and they travel. And I've seen
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so much stuff out there. And a lot of times
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you'll be out there stargazing or looking for UFOs, and
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you'll be looking out there for just a light or
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something to make contact with, and you'll see something totally different. Like,
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what are some of the things that you've seen that
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maybe it wasn't a UFO, maybe it was a spirit,
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maybe it was an angel, but it looked different versus
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just a light in the sky? What are some of
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the different things you've seen?
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Well, we've seen the orbs that are... down in front
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of the tower. And we see those just quite often.
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And so what are they? They say that they're an energy.
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So what kind of energy? You know, we've seen, oh,
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we had some campers report last summer, three different times
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of seeing these green figures. illuminated in a green light
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running through the place. We had a paranormal group come
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and they stayed at the B & B and they
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went over to the tower in the middle of the
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night and they said that they saw a figure illuminated
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in a green light standing out there. Well, they thought
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I had put something out there because I do that.
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I decorate things around the place. And I hadn't put
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anything out there. They came back the next morning to
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see and nothing was there. So again, there's some kind
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of an energy there. And I think they are trying
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to make contact. We have a garden in the front
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of the tower, and they call it the healing garden.
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And it's a place for people to go and meditate
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and relax and kind of get into themselves. I've had
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psychics tell me that we have two large vortexes there.
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And they described a vortex as a portal to a
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parallel universe or an opening. They spin and they're full
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of energy. But they also said that there are two
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large beings there who protect the entrances to the vortexes.
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But they are also there to help. So if someone
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goes into the garden and asks for help with their life,
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whether it be financial, spiritual, or whatever... They're to ask
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for that help. There has been phenomenal results. We have
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one woman who swears to God that the garden healed
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her cancer. And if it did, oh, thank God, hallelujah,
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you know. The other thing that the psychics told me
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is that we have a Christ ship under the tower,
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under the dome. And I really believe that. Because when
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you get so many in and there's been 30, 35
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psychics in who have all said the same thing, you
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start believing it. And, you know, my grandson said to
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me one day I had to run up to the
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post office and he watched the shop for me while
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I was gone. And he said, Grandma, I saw an
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alien come out of a hole over there. And I thought, okay,
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it's the kid's imagination, right? Well, I went over and
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sure enough, there was a hole. And there was an
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area where something could have come out of it. So
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do I believe in all this stuff? You betcha. You know,
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it's taken, it took some time to get used to it,
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but I'll tell you something. There is definitely something over
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there under that tower. And they say that it's the
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Palladians and they are protecting me. And I totally believe that.
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There's a lot of people who are skeptics about it.
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They don't believe. And I think, I really do think
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seeing is believing. I think that makes a lot of sense.
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I think there's an inward knowing too, though, before you
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see it, almost like you, you kind of went out
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on a limb and created this facility, this sanctuary, without
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even having the encounters out there. So almost like if
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you build it, they will come. And that's so true
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because people are skeptical. They, you know, they don't believe you.
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You sound crazy. You're talking about seeing UFOs. And then
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did I just hear you say that you're telepathically communicating
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with and receiving messages from these beings or these ships?
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And so that sounds even more crazy, right? So, but
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I truly believe if you build it they will come
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if you go out there and you spend the time
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and your intention is pure and you want to see
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a craft if you want to see the angels i
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i believe a hundred percent that they will show up
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that it's not an instant thing i think going out
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there sometimes taking hours sometimes i think that that's almost
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to kind of prove that you really want it. Like
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how bad do you want to know? And if you
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want to know, they will show themselves to you. Is
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that kind of what you've seen of skeptics come out
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there and haven't seen anything?
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Oh yeah. And the skeptics, you know, I get lots
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of them, but once they have seen something, then it
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seems like they have been opened up within themselves. And, um,
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You know, we tell people to go out in the
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garden to feel the energy. And I've got folks that say, well,
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I'm a skeptic and I don't believe in this stuff.
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And I tell them, just open yourself, walk through the
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garden and feel the energy that's out there. And nine
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times out of ten, every one of them has felt something. So, yeah.
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If you want it, you have to want it. And
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you have to be open enough in your heart to
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accept it.
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What were some of the sightings that you've seen? And
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I know because I've spent much time as well, and
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you've seen a lot at this point. And so in
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the beginning, everything's new. It's different stuff coming, but then
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it's like, okay, I've seen it. And you have to
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keep the newness alive. You have to keep the newness
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of it there. But what are some of the... the
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sightings that you've seen that kind of made, you know,
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that this is real versus seeing, um, lights in the
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sky of them parking in, in, uh, space and then
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changing directions and things like that. What were some of
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the things that you saw that you absolutely believed after that?
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Um, we've seen a cigar shaped one and, um, that
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one just moved really quickly in front of us. It was,
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11 o'clock at night, we had over a dozen people there.
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Everybody saw it. My granddaughter and I were coming back
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from Del Norte one evening. It was about 5.30. And
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over by Mount Blanca, there was this circle of light
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just going around in a circle. And then a big
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beam was shining down on top of it. And I
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said to her, I said, you watch that. I'm driving.
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I can't pull over. She was only able to watch
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it for another few seconds, and then it disappeared. Well,
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it reappeared about 15 miles to the north, and some
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kids coming home from school saw it. So, again, what
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the heck was it, you know? I don't know if
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you're familiar with Kenneth Arnold, but he was a pilot,
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and they did a painting of him in 1947 showing
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the ships that he had seen. And the lady who
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runs my B & B, Candace, she saw the same
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one here two years ago over by Mount Blanca. Well,
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then I had a gentleman come in from, he lives
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in Fort Garland, and he came in the following week
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and said that he had seen it on his property there.
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At the end of last summer, I had a family
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come in. They had property in Fort Garland, and they
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saw four of them on their property there. So whatever
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it is, it's still around, you know. And it's amazing
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how many different shapes there are of UFOs that have
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been seen. We've seen what looks like a satellite coming
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across the sky. I mean, traveling just like a satellite.
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And then all of a sudden, the dang fool thing stops.
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Satellites don't stop. The one that we watched, it sat
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there for a few seconds and then it went straight up.
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One night it looked like a... Well, I kind of
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thought maybe it was a shooting star. And I'm watching
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it come down. It got below the peaks of the mountains.
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And then like it lost its momentum and it started
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to float. Well, I'm thinking... that maybe the downdrafts from
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the mountains would have done that. But the downdrafts from
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the mountains didn't shoot it back up into the sky,
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and that's what it did. So, you know, there's lots
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of things. I mean, we've watched these lights going really
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fast and just stop. They're not supposed to stop. I've
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checked with the Air Force guys that come in. You know,
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can our planes go real fast and just stop? And
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they said, don't even think about the plane doing it.
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The G-force on our bodies, our bodies would blow up.
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So this has been pretty amazing. Have you ever been here?
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I have not. I'm in the South. I'm in Alabama.
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I want to come up there. I've got a lot
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of friends up there, but I definitely want to come
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up there and see you guys.
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Oh, good.
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Have you ever seen... a fleet, like more than one
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at one time or some traveling together?
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Yes.
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Yes. And what's crazy is you'll see them going together
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and all of a sudden one in the middle just
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changes directions and goes the opposite way. And that's not normal.
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Planes can't do that.
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It's really interesting to see this stuff because there's a
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lot of people who actually captured us on footage of
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Have you ever had anybody or do you guys have
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night vision goggles and have seen anything with that? Have
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you all tried that yet?
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No. We have people who have taken pictures. We have
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people who have taken videos. And they're pretty amazing. The
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one video I've got, these folks were camping and they
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saw this light and they started a video. And it
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was just dancing all over the sky. Planes don't dance
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all over the sky, you know?
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Yeah, that's the weird thing where you know it's not
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a satellite, where they're changing speeds and one's shooting out
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in front of the other. It's almost like they're playing
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a little bit, you know, that they want to be seen.
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They know they're being watched, almost like dolphins, essentially, you know,
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just that really playful spirit about them.
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And I don't think that they're here to harm us.
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I think they are here to help us. But until...
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we are ready for the help. I don't think that's
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going to happen. And I said, what if, what if
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they would make themselves known on earth? What would people
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down here do? They go grab a gun and shoot
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at them. You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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Oh, they would panic. And maybe that's why the government
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is trying to keep it so hush hush. I don't,
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I don't know.
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I've talked, I've talked to people who, um, If aliens
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are real to them, and they call them aliens. I
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don't think they call themselves aliens, put it that way.
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But if these beings exist, then it said they would
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lose faith in their religion and in their holy books
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and things like that. And there's almost a fear that
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if aliens exist, that maybe they did create humankind. Maybe
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they are the angels of the Bible, things like that.
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And there's a hysteria there even from the religious community.
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I've had many conversations with people. But then on the
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opposite for me, it doesn't make me doubt my religious beliefs,
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but it enforces them to say, no, it's not a
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fairy tale. Like there are actual angels out there that
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exist and they travel back and forth from heaven to earth.
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And if you want to, you can see them in
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transit and they'll come and say hello. So it almost
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reinforces my belief in the spirit realm and in God
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and of my core beliefs and stuff, you know.
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I do know. And if you read Ezekiel, let's talk
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about Ezekiel's will. What the heck were they saying? The
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book of Enoch.
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Yes.
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It was taken out of the Bible.
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Why?
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You know, I get lots of religious folks in and
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we sit and discuss this stuff. But I'm not there
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to change anybody's belief or anybody's mind. I'm there to
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listen and if I can help, to help.
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You mind taking a phone call?
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Not at all.
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Okay, so phone lines are open. If anybody has a
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question for Judy or myself, you guys can call in.
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We do have a caller here from Northwest Arkansas.
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Hello, caller, you're on the air.
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Okay.
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Hold on i'm gonna have to mute you for a
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second uh turn your audio down on the computer because
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it's feeding back and i'll bring you right back in
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just turn your audio down on the computer i'll bring
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you right back in and we'll try it again.
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Northwest Arkansas. What's up, brother? How you doing?
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Yeah, no, I'm fine, actually.
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All right, bro. You got a question?
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Looking forward to the future. It's kind of hard. I've
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been a lot on your songs. We have been communicating
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a bit telepathically. Both with you and, you know, Janega
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the Baptist.
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Uh-huh.
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Yeah, yeah, we just did that interview a couple of
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days ago. We had him on the show. You called
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in during that show or no?
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No, but, you know, I'm jamming with you on your songs.
482
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Oh, that's what's up.
483
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And we have this telepathic vibe there.
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Thanks so much, man. Do you have a question for Judy?
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No, but.
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Any UFO encounters or anything you'd.
487
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Like to say? Yeah, I could say that I'm not
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a normal human being myself. And I'm actually being held,
489
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trapped by the government, as we speak. But I'm just
490
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waiting for my DNT to reach her so I can....
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Escape okay well hey man um give us a call
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back whenever uh Judy's off the air man we'll go
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into a little detail about that appreciate you calling man
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yeah a lot of people have had encounters a lot
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of people have had experiences um some people are scared
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to talk about them I do think that's the reason
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00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:20.960
why I do this show in general we cover a
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lot of UFO topics here but um spiritual topics that
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00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:28.990
people have nobody to talk to so there is a
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show here. There is people who make themselves available to
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answer questions and just let people feel like they're, they're
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not alone. It's like you were talking about, um, people
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00:31:38.210 --> 00:31:40.210
think you're on drugs. I know how many times I've
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heard that where I was doing podcast from, uh, and
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I was still involved in a lot of religious circles
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and I would go around these people or go to
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meetings and they would say what you said. I want
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to know what you're smoking. What were you on? I
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want what you have. And it's like, nothing like i'm
510
00:31:58.119 --> 00:32:00.779
being quite honest you know and you can you don't
511
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have to have anything and that was one thing that
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when we would go out and i would have my
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own encounters and i would try to take groups of
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people out who were intrigued to want to go out
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and that's one thing i told them was like you
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know they want to drink beer they want to smoke
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00:32:14.250 --> 00:32:16.289
herb or whatever i'm saying okay you guys can do
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00:32:16.309 --> 00:32:19.390
that but not out here let's don't give any room
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00:32:19.430 --> 00:32:22.730
for that because people say y'all were drinking and smoking
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00:32:22.789 --> 00:32:24.349
and doing drugs and we don't we want to make
521
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sure this is real you know um What are some
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of the expressions on people's face when they see this
523
00:32:32.259 --> 00:32:34.680
stuff for the first time? Are people just having their
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whole lives changed when they have these encounters?
525
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:44.940
I think so. It certainly gives them something else to
526
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:48.289
think about besides all the troubles of the world, you know? But...
527
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They can't get over what they've seen. And then they
528
00:32:55.140 --> 00:32:59.359
try to rationalize what it was and which I did
529
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the same thing. But there was no rationalization, you know,
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no excuse for it. So once it gets through their
531
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mind that possibly there is something else out there besides
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just us. And I'm certain that there is something out
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there besides just us.
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Have you ever seen any activity with the constellations? Because
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I'm sure you guys have a great view. Is there any,
536
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because I mean I've heard people say that they see
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them traveling like the Big Dipper, like these beings or
538
00:33:37.690 --> 00:33:41.670
UFOs will travel and almost outline them. Or they'll, I've
539
00:33:41.730 --> 00:33:45.529
seen them go into star systems and disappear. A lot
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of activity with Orion. Are you guys noticing anything with
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the constellations?
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Like they're doing a dot to dot, you know. But anyway,
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I had a guy call me one night and he said, Judy,
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are you watching the triangular one up by the moon?
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00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:09.659
And I said, what triangular one up by the moon?
546
00:34:10.409 --> 00:34:12.989
And he says, we've been watching it for three nights.
547
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Get outside with your binoculars and look. I didn't need binoculars.
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00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:23.409
I mean, it was sitting right there. Sat there for
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00:34:23.469 --> 00:34:27.090
two more nights and then it just vanished. But yeah,
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00:34:27.869 --> 00:34:32.750
you know, we have seen some really strange stuff. And again,
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with the constellations, you can see these objects moving in
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and out and in and out. Somebody tell me, somebody
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00:34:44.219 --> 00:34:48.480
show me proof. that they aren't there because I'm certain
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they are.
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Yeah, something's going on, like you said. And that's what
556
00:34:52.980 --> 00:34:55.559
gets me. So you always try to rationalize it, like
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you said. You're trying to make sense of everything. Okay,
558
00:34:58.579 --> 00:35:00.380
so let's say it's the government. Let's just say it's
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the government testing out this new equipment or interstellar travel
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or something. You're just seeing back-engineered craft. It takes another
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turn when I bring up the telepathic communication that they're
562
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communicating right and that just throws a whole wrench into
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that for me or or a satellite i don't think
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a satellite is going to um communicate a thought or
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an idea or an awe of creativity or a spark
566
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this interest in you um what are some of the
567
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:38.269
stuff that that you've seen is there a message there
568
00:35:38.369 --> 00:35:41.900
is there like a impression it's almost like They want
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us to return to the arts, to be creative, to
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enjoy life, to love one another. These are the messages
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that we receive when we see these crafts and stuff.
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Are you picking up on stuff like that? I don't
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know if it's a voice or just an inward knowing
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that you get from seeing these ships.
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00:36:00.389 --> 00:36:04.889
Yeah, I'm certain they're trying to get us to love
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one another and spread love and peace throughout the world.
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And if we can get some of this horrible stuff
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out of our society, you know, everybody should open their hearts.
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They should have respect for other people. They should have
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respect for themselves. But they need to get the violence
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out of society. And once that happens, then maybe, just maybe,
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we'll get to have contact.
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I don't think everybody's waiting for government disclosure. There's people
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who have rallies and meetings that want the government to
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admit to what's going on. I personally think that disclosure
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is going to happen through the people, people like ourselves
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who are making contact, who are having visitations. And it
588
00:37:01.179 --> 00:37:04.489
starts there and it just progresses. But what do you
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think about the government actually coming out, making a statement
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about it? Do you think that that will ever happen
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or anytime soon?
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Well, I just don't know. I said, I hope it
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happens in my lifetime, but may not. You know, it's
594
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:25.539
like Hillary Clinton said, you elect me on opening the
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UFO file. Obama says, before I leave office, I'm opening
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the UFO file. Well, that still hasn't been done. You know,
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the prime minister of Canada, he publicly said, The United
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States has been working with extraterrestrials for eons. Why can't
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00:37:49.059 --> 00:37:52.179
they tell us that they're working with them, you know?
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Are you familiar with Sylvia Brown?
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Yes. Oh, yes, yes, yes.
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Well, she wrote a book called The Secrets and Mysteries
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of the World. In there, she talks about extraterrestrials, and
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she says that they look just like us, and they're
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already walking amongst us. And maybe they're already here trying
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to get things settled. But will it happen? I'm ready
607
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for it to happen. I had a young man in,
608
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and he said that his grandfather was the chief investigator
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00:38:29.010 --> 00:38:33.789
for Project Blue Book. Have you ever seen Project Blue Book?
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00:38:35.130 --> 00:38:38.800
I've seen documentaries on it, and yeah, I'm pretty....
611
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:44.340
But where they've got all of this dialogue going on
612
00:38:44.420 --> 00:38:48.980
in there, they have blacked out sentence after sentence after sentence.
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00:38:50.059 --> 00:38:54.619
So you really didn't get anything out of it. But
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00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:58.880
he said his grandfather could not discuss what was going
615
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:02.130
on with that. And he said his grandfather was on
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00:39:02.179 --> 00:39:06.420
his dying bed and said to him, you believe it.
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It's real. So... That's what happens with a lot of
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00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:16.010
these people. They won't say anything until they're about ready
619
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to die, you know. But the government has such a
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control on them. Yeah. I had a group come and
621
00:39:25.670 --> 00:39:28.650
visit me from the Navy. This has been a year ago.
622
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And Strategic Studies Group is what it was called. And
623
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there was, I think, seven of them who came. They
624
00:39:41.050 --> 00:39:44.469
told me that I couldn't video and I couldn't take pictures.
625
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And they wouldn't either. But I think the one, I
626
00:39:48.130 --> 00:39:51.280
think he had a camera in his sunglasses. But anyway,
627
00:39:51.300 --> 00:39:59.340
the commander of the Coast Guard whipped out his cell
628
00:39:59.380 --> 00:40:04.099
phone and he showed me a picture of a UFO
629
00:40:04.179 --> 00:40:08.400
coming out of the ocean. I have heard that story
630
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from others who have visited the tower so many times.
631
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And so... You know, they all know something that we
632
00:40:17.570 --> 00:40:21.730
just don't know. And I'm ready for them to be
633
00:40:21.829 --> 00:40:24.380
on the up and up and let the American public
634
00:40:24.489 --> 00:40:28.280
know what the devil is going on. People say, well,
635
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:32.280
what you're seeing is drones. They didn't have drones 17
636
00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:40.099
years ago, you know. They say it's hot air balloons. Baloney,
637
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I've seen a hot air balloon. I just, I want
638
00:40:43.869 --> 00:40:46.670
to know for a fact what the heck it is.
639
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I want to know. I had a guy in and
640
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:54.539
he was an air traffic controller. And he said that
641
00:40:54.579 --> 00:40:58.360
he gets six to eight UFO reports a month from
642
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:02.329
the pilot. And he said he's not permitted to document them.
643
00:41:02.769 --> 00:41:02.989
Why?
644
00:41:04.130 --> 00:41:07.730
You know, why not? So, anyway.
645
00:41:08.170 --> 00:41:12.289
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing too, like, Here's the
646
00:41:12.309 --> 00:41:15.090
whole thing, even with NASA, with the Hubble, like you
647
00:41:15.139 --> 00:41:20.059
could see some awesome pictures of stars and solar systems
648
00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:23.219
and things with the Hubble. And if we're going out
649
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:27.050
and we're seeing things with the naked eye, like you said,
650
00:41:27.090 --> 00:41:30.489
without binoculars, and then you use binoculars, you can see
651
00:41:30.550 --> 00:41:34.190
so much more. And then people are using night vision goggles,
652
00:41:34.889 --> 00:41:38.300
military grade, and they're seeing so much stuff flying around
653
00:41:38.380 --> 00:41:41.559
outside of the atmosphere and doing all types of aerial
654
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:45.980
phenomena but nasa has never picked up anything on the
655
00:41:46.019 --> 00:41:48.639
hubble this is how you know something's going on that
656
00:41:48.659 --> 00:41:51.550
they're not releasing this stuff you can go out and
657
00:41:51.630 --> 00:41:54.909
have your own encounters with the naked eye but nasa's
658
00:41:54.949 --> 00:41:58.449
like we don't know maybe you know they won't say
659
00:41:58.510 --> 00:42:01.280
anything that's that's how i know something's up we can
660
00:42:01.300 --> 00:42:03.460
go out there right now if we wanted to and
661
00:42:03.500 --> 00:42:06.239
take the time even during the day that's when it
662
00:42:06.260 --> 00:42:08.360
gets real right when you have the night the night
663
00:42:09.110 --> 00:42:13.070
vision the night encounters and then they start happening during
664
00:42:13.110 --> 00:42:15.429
the day so it's not just lights it is the
665
00:42:15.449 --> 00:42:18.230
cigar shaped ones and the orbs and things that are
666
00:42:18.329 --> 00:42:23.239
showing up so but I encourage people if they're intrigued
667
00:42:23.260 --> 00:42:24.960
just to go out there and do it for themselves
668
00:42:25.019 --> 00:42:28.000
if they want to know you can know you know
669
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I think that exists for everybody.
670
00:42:29.420 --> 00:42:35.559
I think the Vatican has from what I understand this
671
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:41.219
really high powered telescope And it's supposed to be one
672
00:42:41.260 --> 00:42:43.440
of the best in the world, from what I have heard.
673
00:42:44.739 --> 00:42:49.179
But they finally came out. The Pope came out and said,
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it's okay to believe in aliens.
675
00:42:52.010 --> 00:42:53.110
Yeah, I remember that, yeah.
676
00:42:54.469 --> 00:42:58.269
Here he wanted to baptize them. And I said, well,
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I'm game. Can you get them to come on down
678
00:43:01.030 --> 00:43:02.730
so we can baptize?
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00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:06.989
Yeah, it was awesome. I remember that was in a
680
00:43:07.130 --> 00:43:10.489
lot of news sources, and the UFO community ate that
681
00:43:10.590 --> 00:43:13.130
up when he came out several years back and was
682
00:43:13.150 --> 00:43:16.750
talking about UFOs and it doesn't go against our beliefs
683
00:43:17.050 --> 00:43:21.650
or whatever, and they may need to be redeemed and
684
00:43:21.690 --> 00:43:24.260
stuff as well and share the gospel with the aliens
685
00:43:24.340 --> 00:43:29.219
and stuff. It's pretty funny. But somebody knows what's going on,
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and like I said, I don't think they're going to
687
00:43:31.420 --> 00:43:33.780
tell us, so I think it's up for us. to
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00:43:33.820 --> 00:43:36.559
do the research and to share our stories on shows
689
00:43:36.659 --> 00:43:39.360
just like this one. And everybody has a piece of
690
00:43:39.380 --> 00:43:41.519
the puzzle and to kind of bring it together and
691
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:43.239
see what fits and see if we can make a
692
00:43:43.300 --> 00:43:45.809
picture out of it and, and try to find out
693
00:43:45.849 --> 00:43:48.610
what's going on. Um, and, and really, you know, I
694
00:43:49.050 --> 00:43:51.789
think how we can benefit our lives. And that's really
695
00:43:51.809 --> 00:43:55.030
what I'm concerned with. Like how can, you know, UFO
696
00:43:55.070 --> 00:43:58.179
contact help us out today, help me in my day
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00:43:58.219 --> 00:44:03.909
to day. And I think that it, encourages spirituality, creativity, intrigue, awe,
698
00:44:03.989 --> 00:44:07.789
and wonder, and love, and all of these feelings and
699
00:44:07.809 --> 00:44:10.949
emotions that you get when you have a supernatural encounter
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is essentially what it is, and I love it, and
701
00:44:15.269 --> 00:44:19.480
I'm chasing, you know, those first encounters that I had, man,
702
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.699
I'm doing work right now that is built off of
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00:44:22.900 --> 00:44:26.940
encounters from 2012, you know, and I'm still talking about
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00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:30.889
them and doing research and things like that, and uh,
705
00:44:30.949 --> 00:44:32.840
essentially trying to take it, take it a little bit further. Um,
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as we come upon the end of the show, talk
707
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:39.920
a little bit about funding and how people can help
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00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:43.159
you guys build, how you got help keep you guys
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in business and what you offer and everything that's there.
710
00:44:46.460 --> 00:44:48.400
Like how, how are you guys able to stay afloat
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00:44:48.739 --> 00:44:50.960
and continue building what you guys have? Cause it's a
712
00:44:51.019 --> 00:44:54.059
really beautiful facility. Everybody definitely needs to go to the
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website as well. That's ufo.com. Watchtower.com. I know she has
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00:44:58.369 --> 00:45:00.969
a book as well, That Crazy Lady Down the Road.
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00:45:01.329 --> 00:45:03.570
She has a book available and some other T-shirts and
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00:45:03.610 --> 00:45:05.889
products and things like that. But talk a little bit
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about how people can get behind you guys and help
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and even come out and visit.
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We always take donations. And those can be sent to
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Post Office Box 522 Hooper, Colorado, 81136. But most of
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the funding comes from people who come to visit. I
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charge a nominal fee for them to come in and
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get the information, $ 2 a person or $ 5 a carload.
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And then, of course, we have the gift shop, and
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that helps a whole lot. But it seems like the
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UFO Watchtower has finally come into its own the last
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couple of years, thanks to the media who have supported
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been really plugging it for us. And if anybody is
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really interested, they should go look at that Vice video.
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Vice did a marvelous job on that video. But come
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on down to the San Luis Valley in southern Colorado
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and see us. We're on the Cosmic Highway 17.
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I got some friends up that way. I'm definitely going
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to send them your way. The Vice documentary was awesome.
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They did it justice. Sometimes Vice can be divisive. Vice divisive.
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Sometimes they can be divisive of painting people to look
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silly or to look crazy or let's make fun of
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this person. But they really did justice to your story
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and promoted what you have going on. Like I said,
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to build the intrigue and the awe and the wonder. man,
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this is interesting. And there's a lot of other people
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on there as well with similar stories. And I got
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a friend of mine who Vice came out and did
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a documentary on them as well, Brandon Barthrop. And I
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had him on the show too. Really cool. And seeing
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how many followers he got and people checking out the
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work after they went live on Vice. Can you talk
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a little bit about that experience? Who set that up
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for you? Did they contact you or was there an
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email sent? How did that work out for you? And
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how was that whole experience?
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They contacted me, and anybody who wants to do an interview,
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that's what they have to do. I don't go out
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searching for them.
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Yes.
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This has brought so much interest. The media just eats
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it up. And so thanks to them, I don't have
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to do a lot of advertising. Now, another one that's
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a good one is Roadside America.
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I've seen that one, too.
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And we get lots of folks who have looked at
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Roadside America. And then, of course, the local TV stations
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here in Colorado. And they've all, they have not made
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fun of me at all. Now, at the beginning, when
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I first started this, the radio personalities just drove me nuts.
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And it was all fun, you know?
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Yeah.
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So, but that pretty much has gotten over. And now
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we have folks who are taking it serious. And I
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really appreciate it. Really do.
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Well, thanks for coming on and hanging out with me.
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We'll try to send some people your way. Definitely go
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there and purchase the book. And if you guys are
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looking for a retreat, a center, you want to make contact, uh, it's,
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00:48:29.170 --> 00:48:31.489
it helps to get with people who are already making
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contact and they know what to do, the protocols and
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things like that. It's, you know, there's, there's a lot
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of serious work that goes into it. It is a
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lot of spiritual work. And, uh, And I've seen a
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lot of documentaries where people go out to see a
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UFO and they get with different communities and different people.
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And they go out and they see UFOs, but they
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have a life-changing experience with the spiritual side of it
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and the work that goes into it. And I've read
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your work. I've read some of the people that you
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guys are involved with and seen footage and videos of
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you guys doing the spiritual work and the prayer and
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the meditation and stuff like that in the garden that
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you guys have. And it's just so beautiful. Keep up
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the positive work and the energy. And thanks so much
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for coming on to hang out with me. I appreciate it.
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Thank you so much, Derek. All right.
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Thank you, Judy. Bye-bye.
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Bye-bye.
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Julie, Judy Messerlein, ladies and gentlemen. Got it right. Yeah.
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Make sure you guys go check out her work. If
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you guys are this far into the interview, you're still listening.
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There's got to be some type of intrigue there, right?
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I think I did it justice as far as Using
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those words, that's what it was for me. The intrigue,
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the creativity, everything that you see coming from my way
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at this point was birthed from some really amazing supernatural
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encounters with UFOs. And just to kind of address a
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little bit the whole UFO community and stuff like that
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from the religious standpoint, man, I still catch a lot of...
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flack from my Christian friends. I have a lot of
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Christian friends who are still in the church or trying
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to be accepted by the church community and things like that.
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And they can't be themselves, right? I have friends who,
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who smoke marijuana, who drink almost on a nightly basis,
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but they would never let their Christian brothers and sisters
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catch them doing that ever. Like they know that they
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chopped their head right off. And so I really, um, love, uh,
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being myself and having, and other people who, uh, who
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are just comfortable in, in their own skin, like, uh,
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John Illuminati Congo, like the caller mentioned, we interviewed him
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last week and he's a, he's a beautiful brother, but
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to see somebody in being them, their authentic self and, uh,
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and it drives you to envy, man, to, to do
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what they love to do for a living and to
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pursue the passions that they have and be okay with it. Um,
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it says so much. And I want to, I preface
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that to say that some of my friends who are
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in the church realm who are into drugs or into
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alcohol and different things like that. And there's nothing, I'm
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not downing it. I'm downing it because they point the
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finger at me and say that, you know, I'm like, yeah,
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I like a lot of what True Seeker talks about,
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but the whole alien things, I don't get. I don't
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get the infatuation with aliens. Aliens could be demons. Aliens
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could be this. And so, I think we've done the research.
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I think we're pretty well versed in the scriptural references
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of supernatural encounters with angelic beings to know that they
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take many shapes and forms. And like I said earlier, aliens,
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I don't even like using that word. I use it
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in my art, but I don't even like using that
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word because they don't call themselves aliens. Like, hey, what's
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your name? Oh, we're the aliens. How are you? No,
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it doesn't work like that. not at all um whether
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they're from a certain star system which how do we
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know that the angels aren't from another star system i
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know that there's so much information over the years from
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other prophets and people having their own encounters gazing into
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the heavens and seeing things moving in and out of
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star systems orion i'm so intrigued with orion every time
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i'm stargaze um And then seeing craft or beings, there
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might not even be craft. I know a lot of
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times they're actual beings. And they're not nuts and bolts ships.
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These are beings. There's so much footage of these things
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morphing and changing shape in the air and in outer space.
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And some people have some really crazy footage, man. And
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it wouldn't even, it's like a ship that just morphs
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into another thing. or something. It's just crazy stuff. I
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don't even know. But I do know that the scriptures
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talk about the seraphim. And she mentioned the book of
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Enoch earlier. The book of Enoch talks about that the
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angels of the Most High are as a flame of fire.
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They're made out of the fire of God. The word
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seraphim itself is translated the fiery ones or the fiery serpents.
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In the book of Psalms, it says that The Lord
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maketh his ministering spirits, his warring angels, as a flame
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of fire. So that kind of reiterates what Enoch's talking about.
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And Hebrews repeats that, the book of Hebrews. So it
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talks about these fiery beings. Enoch talks about they have
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the ability at will when they're in heaven and they
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travel at the speed of light or faster than the
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speed of light. They look like fire. And as they will,
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they can come to earth and take upon the appearance
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of men. And Hebrews talks about, like she was talking
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about as well, looking like people. Hebrews says that we
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entertain angels unaware. We don't even know it. We're having
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interaction with angels. Messengers is what the word angel means.
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They come with a message, with a spirit, with a vibration,
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with a thought form. And all of this stuff is,
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is beautiful. And it's just different layers, man. We look
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at the different hierarchies of angels and we don't even
877
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talk about aliens. Just keep it angelic. Keep it biblical.
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If that's what you want to do, we can do that.
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And if we, but if we do that, then there's
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so much mystery and intrigue, but I think that they're interlocked.
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I think that we are able to go out and
882
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see angels traveling back and forth. It tells us that
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in the scriptures, it tells us that, um, I believe it's, um, Jeremiah,
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I want to say, that talks about the angels traveling
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back and forth. And it talks about them answering prayers
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and carrying prayers and all types of roles that the
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angels do and they operate. And Enoch goes into a
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lot of detail about it. The book of Enoch is
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mentioned in the book of Jude in the Bible. And
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you guys have heard me say this before, but my
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intrigue is like, I'm a biblical theologian. I get into
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the scriptures. I've studied them for years. I know them
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in and out. And I don't know them like an expert.
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I have to quit studying them. Every time you read it,
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there's something new in those scriptures. And you get a
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deeper understanding. If you don't study the ET phenomena, if
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you don't study Enoch, you're not going to understand the Bible.
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You're not. The Bible isn't one book anyway. The Bible
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is many books and letters and writings that were collected
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and put together into Bible, Biblios, or the little book.
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So many books put together. Letters sent to churches and
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collected to put in a book. So there's other books
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that are mentioned in the Bible. And I'll need to
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do probably a show on this or just a teaching
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just to kind of give you guys the references. Because
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I have all the research. I have everything printed out
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and all the studying. This was early stuff for me,
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being able to do this. And so, to understand that
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the book of Shemaiah, the prophet, as mentioned of in
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the Bible, the book of Edu, the prophet, the book
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of the wars of the Israelites, the book of Jasher,
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the book of Enoch, all of these are quoted by
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prophets and quoted by sages. And I'm interested in what
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was in those books. The book of Giants, all kind
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of stuff. Mentioned of in the Bible. I can show
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you this stuff. I'll probably do a video on it. So,
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With all that being said, it gets deep. It gets deep,
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whether we're tracing it from a biblical perspective or not,
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if you even follow that narrative. But I know it's
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getting popular now. The book of Enoch is very popular now.
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I remember some years ago when we were getting into it,
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it was like, oh, stay away from that book. But
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now they teach it in many churches. I remember seeing
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several years back, and it was so awesome because I
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am a Benny Hinn fan. I do appreciate a lot
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of Benny Hinn, Benny Hinn's teachings about the Holy Spirit
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and spending intimacy with God and things like that. So, um,
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I remember watching an episode of, um, um, I don't
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know if it's this is your day, whatever the name
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of the TBN show is with Paul Crouch, who was
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like the founder of TBN. He had Benny Hinn and
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they were just having a conversation and they were talking
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about angels and talking about demons and stuff. And, uh,
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Benny Hinn began to go into the book of Enoch
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on his show. And he blew Paul Crouch's head off.
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Paul was like, Benny, I've been saved for 47 years
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and I've never heard this information. And Benny Hinn is like, yup,
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it's taken out of the Bible. He's like dropping knowledge
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on them and everybody's got their jaw dropped in the audience.
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And it's hilarious, man. But I was like, oh yeah,
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I got a kick out of that. He was blowing
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their head off with some of this deeper esoteric knowledge
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about the spirit realm. So if you're looking to study
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how spirits operate. If you're looking to study how to
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have power and authority over them, you got to go
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to Enoch. You have to. To understand the Bible, you
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got to understand Enoch. Can't leave it out. Because the
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early church understood it. The early church understood the Testament
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of Solomon and all of these apocryphal works. The Apocrypha,
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even that, was like 14 books that were taken out
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of the Bible that were used In the 1611 King
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James Version, like it literally was part of the King James,
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but then they took out 14 books. I've got the
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1611 Version as well with all of these books in it.
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Some beautiful stuff in there. Some debatable stuff. Some stuff
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that they can't rationalize. So they took it out and
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threw it out. But with that being said about the
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books that talk about these angels and talk about these
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heavenly encounters, there are some books out there that I
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believe were created to deceive people. whether we're talking about
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a lot of the Gnostic texts, we're talking about um
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even the urantia book like i want to believe the
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urantia book is real but my spirit turns when i
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read it's just so i could oh man i could
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feel the intention behind it and the wording they're trying
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to word it to sound like the bible this is
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insane anyway That's my spiel on the books. That's my
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spiel on Christianity and the UFO community and stuff like that.
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They say it's all demons. So I wouldn't even... I
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don't even entertain that stuff anymore. That's definitely... Just because
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you don't understand it, you demonize it, call it demonic. Nah,
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I can't deal with that no more. Maybe years ago
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we could have dealt with that. Not anymore. So... Anyway...
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I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. I love talking
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to interesting people, especially, I mean, this lady built a
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UFO watchtower on her property. It's this big platform, and
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they got this big dome, and creating a sanctuary, man.
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Like I said, I did that in my property. Went
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out there, and we had a bunch of people. We
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worked and cut down trees, and we had big trees
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in the way, and my father-in-law was out there with me.
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I was like, I want that tree gone. Oh, no,
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let's leave that one. I said, nope, cutting it down.
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Because you couldn't see. You cut the tree down and
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it would open up. I got this big circle in
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my backyard where I would just go out there and
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just stargaze and spend nights laying on sheets looking at
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the stars. And once the weather cools off again, I'm
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going to be doing that again very soon. I miss
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those times. Even this conversation with Judy, that intrigue and
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that want to get back out there and make contact again.
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And once you make contact and you know that something's
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going on, you start having these encounters, it shows you
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how focused you are on the things around you and
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the things of this world when all you had to
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do was look up to make contact. All you had
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to do was look up. And you could see this
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stuff during the day. I know it's dangerous for me,
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but when I was a truck driver, man, that's when
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I would have a lot of encounters. I would pull
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over on the side of the road and just gaze
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for a while as well, early. hours of the morning, um,
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and see stuff, but, um, I'd be driving, I'm looking
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at traffic and then I'm looking up, I'm looking at
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traffic and I'm looking up, you know, while I'm driving,
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I'm traveling the country, you know? Um, so with that
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being said, I mean, there's so many, even like, um,
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entertainers and notable people who have had encounters who, who
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like to talk about it. Um, Muhammad Ali had one
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01:01:49.739 --> 01:01:55.349
of the coolest, uh, um, quotes about ufos uh he
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said that he would go out in the early morning
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jogging you know four or five in the morning before
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the sun comes up and he said you can see
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them like they were playing tag in the morning sky
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playing tag and you do see a lot of activity
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right before the sun comes up you do see a
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lot and you know there's some awesome quotes out there
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people have seen some awesome stuff so um With that,
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